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Speaker 1: Quinn Hughes's favorite color.

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Speaker 2: This is the first year the Wild have put together

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Speaker 2: a team capable of going all the way. We haven't gelled,

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Speaker 2: but we have the time and talent. So exciting to

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Speaker 2: watch this team. Tom, do you think the team is

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Speaker 2: coasting to the playoffs? That's got to be Tom Reid right,

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Speaker 2: he's asking? So that is between periods?

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Speaker 1: Correct? Yes? Uh? Hey, I'm from a Tumwa, Iowa.

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Speaker 2: My first boss in one of my first bosses in

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Speaker 2: newspapers was either from a Tumwa or Kiakuk.

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Speaker 1: Are they close to each other? And they're in the

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Speaker 1: same region the same region? Are they not?

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Speaker 2: And I just started watching Wild hockey this year and

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Speaker 2: everything is new to me. But do you guys think

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Speaker 2: the Wild can turn it around in the third period?

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Speaker 2: If so, how do you think they'll do it? Tom?

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Speaker 2: Who starts in goal for the playoffs? And will he

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: Not the game I'd like to see against the opponent,

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Speaker 2: writes Tyler from Green Bay. But there's hope thanks to Capriceoff.

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Speaker 2: What could the While do to ensure a playoff clinch?

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Speaker 1: Today? We didn't clinch, did we? They did not? We

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Speaker 1: lost to the Boston Bruins. Was six to three? Was

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Speaker 1: that the final? That was?

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Speaker 2: And Capriesoft called himself out. He did said got to

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Speaker 2: first When he scored the first goal last night or yesterday,

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Speaker 2: we were already down. Was a three to zero at

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Speaker 2: that point, I believe, so I think you cut it

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Speaker 2: to three to one. Did Tom have any pregame rituals?

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Speaker 2: These are interesting? Brash ONWN Brian Kfean text line. It

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Speaker 2: tells me that it has been or needed to be

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Speaker 2: rebooted and has Sunday sermons, two hour edition of the

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Speaker 2: program Barrero and blakemore with you until eleven o'clock Today

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Speaker 2: is worst case scenario back today As far as I know,

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Speaker 2: it's a one hour edition on scenario and then I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming do we have?

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Speaker 1: What else do we have today?

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of attorney, Big Dance action, Elite

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Speaker 2: eight action to advance to the Final four.

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Speaker 1: Right after worst case scenario.

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Speaker 2: At noon, it's all attorney, all day, attorney all day,

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Speaker 2: no guests, scheduled lots to get to today. Have you

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Speaker 2: ever had or have ever had any interest in purchasing

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Speaker 2: what they call in the business a timeshare no, which

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Speaker 2: allegedly then gives you access to certain properties around the

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Speaker 2: world depending on what the timeshare is. I've told the

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Speaker 2: story before about my only ugly timeshare sales pitch experience.

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Speaker 2: It was while visiting the garden Isle of Kawaii, the

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Speaker 2: Hawaiian Islands, and I've never felt closer to being hostage

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Speaker 2: But there's a commercial I think we run it a lot.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember the name of the company, and the

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Speaker 2: bid is timeshares are evil. And the bid is, if

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Speaker 2: you're stuck in one, call us and we will. We

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Speaker 2: will release you from that bondage. You will no longer

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Speaker 2: have to experience that paint. Those commercials are so effective

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Speaker 2: to me that I almost want to get a time

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Speaker 2: get me out of this, because it seems like it's

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Speaker 2: so delicious what he's able to do, what that guy

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Speaker 2: to watch the folks at the other end of the

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Speaker 2: it's so inspiring it makes me want to do it.

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Speaker 2: I bet you we have timeshare people out there, or

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Speaker 1: Six four six eighty six.

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Speaker 2: Is the Bradshawn Brian Cafe in text line Dan Wnnesota

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Speaker 2: tells me, is yes, Chuck McDowell is the timeshare attorney.

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Speaker 2: Is that actually him or is that a really good

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Speaker 2: but I'm wondering if we have how many timeshare people

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Speaker 2: and it's worked great for me. I have no complaints,

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Speaker 2: I despise saying I told you so, just unline. I mean,

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Speaker 2: most talk show hosts revel in that. Not me. I

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Speaker 1: What's the what's the name of the process? ABS? What

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Speaker 2: I told you because this is major league baseball that

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Speaker 2: people pay attention to in a way that they don't

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Speaker 2: And it's already happened the first week of the season,

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Speaker 2: it exposes one home plate umpire for being wrong as

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Speaker 2: often as he was wrong I think, six out of eight.

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Speaker 2: But I will tell you for another reason why schadenfreude

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Speaker 3: I have an idea because I've seen the clip of it.

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Speaker 3: Was Red's Red Sox? Was that the one?

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Speaker 1: This is via the Athletic.

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Speaker 2: Two challenges lost too early, a memorable rookie debut, an

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Speaker 2: second game of the season for the Red Sox seemingly

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Speaker 2: to the Reds six to five on a walk off single.

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Speaker 1: That's not even the important part of it. It really isn't.

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Speaker 2: Throughout the game, Red Sox and Reds took issue with

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Speaker 2: The longtime umpire had eight calls, eight count them challenged

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Speaker 2: This is from manager Alex Cora. He has one job

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Speaker 2: Korra was the by Bucknor in the eighth inning. It

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Speaker 1: It's out there.

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Speaker 2: Everybody sees it. He'll be the first one to accept it.

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Speaker 2: some of the Red Sox stuff regarding opportunities squandered earlier

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Speaker 1: Misfortune.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I know this is going to be a hard

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Speaker 2: conversation today because everybody hates umpires, referees, officials, because most

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Speaker 2: rise above it. I understand that you're you're you're too

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Speaker 2: like I said, you're too biased. You're too much a

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Speaker 2: any way to watch a baseball game? Because what we're

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Speaker 2: learning now is again we have replay and everything now,

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Speaker 2: but you're seeing in this one game, and maybe this

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Speaker 2: we're having routinely that many challenges, is that really good.

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Speaker 1: For the game?

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Speaker 2: Is it the aesthetics of the game. I'm not talking

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Speaker 2: sports on more than just the officiating, the flow, the feel,

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Speaker 2: what you're concentrating on, what keeps things moving? Is this

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Speaker 2: going to do any of those things as cool?

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Speaker 1: In that moment, it's gonna be got him again? He

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Speaker 2: Okay, knock yourselves out, But I'm not sure it has

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Speaker 2: much to do with enjoying a ballgame or.

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Speaker 1: The aesthetics of a ballgame.

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Speaker 2: Reaching Maybe its potential in any given game.

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Speaker 1: But I know there's a lot of you out there saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: If we could reduce the new goal is going to

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Speaker 2: be reducing a grown man umpire to tears.

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Speaker 1: That's what you want, Just admit it.

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Speaker 2: That's what you want because you have all that pent

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Speaker 1: From the beginning.

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Speaker 2: So we're we will be relieved of at least this

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Speaker 1: How many do we get today? What's the percentage? We

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Speaker 3: you got the call wrong. We're back. We can keep batting. Well, so,

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Speaker 1: So it's not to me.

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Speaker 3: If it's a black and white, black and white, yes

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Speaker 2: Well, this is really the appetizer that set it up,

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Speaker 2: Bucknor called strike three. Suarez challenges. Seconds later, a scoreboard

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's gonna make the game more interesting to people

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Speaker 2: But I again, I know I'm in the minority, But

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Speaker 2: umpires need to be evaluated. Bad ones should be removed.

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Speaker 2: I just think this obsession with officiating tends on so

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Speaker 2: get done. Enjoying whatever the sport is. I know it's

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Speaker 1: Well they did this in the miners and everything was fine.

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Speaker 2: Well it might have been fine, but I'll say again,

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Speaker 2: That means whatever transpires is going to be far more,

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Speaker 2: we're having some fun, and we don't really care who's playing.

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Speaker 2: But put out there, whoever you want to put out there,

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Speaker 2: a lot of good text texts coming in. Let's get

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to some texts on the opening

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Speaker 2: salvo of this very special edition of Sunday Sermons, Barrero

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Speaker 2: believe of worst case scenario leading into some big dance

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Speaker 1: Side, died on Friday night, and it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a bit of a cruel way to go

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Speaker 2: I think the Gophers trailed by five, and based on

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Speaker 2: And defensively they were magnificent and just I mean they refused.

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Speaker 2: I think there was one possession in which three Gopher

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Speaker 2: that pretty much ended the ballgame. So the dream dies

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Speaker 2: at the Sweet sixteen, Sweet sixteen. I guess I should say,

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Speaker 2: here's some texts coming in fast and furious. Chuck McDowell

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Speaker 2: Wednesday when you have the Bolshevik collective, Kessler, really you'll

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Speaker 2: enjoy that one for sure. Well, a game with zero

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Speaker 2: challenges get the front page headlines.

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Speaker 1: This game did.

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Speaker 2: If Red Soxs and Yankees are involved, all the games

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Speaker 2: think important points by nine to five.

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Speaker 2: Guy, there one is it has to do with Okay, again,

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Speaker 2: you could say the baseball bias towards certain teams. Things

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 2: But but here's the other one that should not go unnoticed.

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Speaker 2: A game with zero challenges will not get front page headlines.

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Speaker 2: It won't as you're doing your job, even though even

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Speaker 1: So again, if you do.

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Speaker 2: mean you do the percentages. As Tim Cheetah has often

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Speaker 1: There's no question about that.

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Speaker 2: But no it won't get any attention because that's not

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Speaker 2: the umpires stink and they've been against especially my team,

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Speaker 2: but now they'll be exposed, even if they're doing to

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Speaker 2: how old MLB umpire C. B. Buckner is and she said, quote,

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Speaker 2: he has been an MLB umpire since nineteen ninety six

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Speaker 2: and his yet to get any better. There's your I've

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Speaker 2: That's not bad. The people who demand accountability for umpires

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Speaker 2: assumption that there's better umpires and refs out there not working.

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Speaker 2: You can fire people, but replacing them with less experienced

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Speaker 2: Darren Circle pines, Well, that's too sensible and too dispassionate

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Speaker 2: the out of the lodge. Darren with that kind of thinking.

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Speaker 2: The Major League Baseball season has started, I'll skip this

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Speaker 1: Sell the team.

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Speaker 2: See, we weren't even talking twins, but he found a

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Speaker 2: Another example, Alan and Afton, I find it really difficult

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Speaker 2: Both my parents and I have owned time Shares and

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Speaker 3: Let's see here sonds like that meeting when the office

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's to me pretty close. Yeah, let's not ignore

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Speaker 2: in it?

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Speaker 1: Dan, Should people not want calls to be made correctly?

436
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: It seems there's little to no accountability for amps known

437
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: to blow known to blow calls. Now there's incentive for

438
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: them to get better at their own game, calling pitches

439
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: correctly well, again, what I would say too, and did

440
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Speaker 2: you have this stat Somebody had the stat that even

441
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Speaker 2: on the pitches that are missed, they're usually not missed

442
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Speaker 2: by much. In other words, they are what the very

443
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Speaker 2: definition of borderline calls. That and that's been my complaint

444
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Speaker 2: about attempting to re litigate everything every call that's made

445
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Speaker 2: in a pro football game, including pass interference. Is that

446
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: a lot of that stuff, passerfras especially is fifty to

447
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 2: fifty proposition and borderline calls. We're talking about what a

448
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 2: thousandth of an inch either way. You know, Now, if

449
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: there's some and we've all seen the viral clips of

450
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Speaker 2: your guy where they're so far out of the strike

451
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Speaker 2: z own that it's ridiculous.

452
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But most of the time they're not that far

453
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Speaker 1: out of the strike zone.

454
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Speaker 2: So you say, I just you know, it's part of

455
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Speaker 2: the imperfections that we deal with here. Why is it

456
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Speaker 2: okay to challenge the thickness of deli meat but not

457
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Speaker 2: ball and balls and strikes calls?

458
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Speaker 1: That's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Balls and strikes review and challenges take away a long

460
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Speaker 2: standing element of the game, both pitchers and batters. I've

461
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: always had to learn the umpire strikes on on a

462
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: game by game basis. You're that saying, and players freighted

463
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: it out and became better and more effective in the

464
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Speaker 2: later innings. I'd like to hear Jack Morris's thoughts on

465
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: this perspective Cal Ripkin Jr. As well, Brace yourself for

466
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: more home runs, walks and strikeouts.

467
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Speaker 1: Well, you're talking there six p.

468
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Speaker 2: One to two guy about the art of the game,

469
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Speaker 2: and people don't care about the art of the game.

470
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Speaker 2: They want it to be all science, which is sad

471
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: because it the game is supposed to be more about

472
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Speaker 2: the art of it than the science of it. But

473
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 2: in so many ways it's become baseball, especially so much

474
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Speaker 2: more about launch angle science things, as our guy Kevin

475
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: Kernin would say, nerd things pretty much so schadenfreude for

476
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: timeshare agents but not for umpires. You've changed. Let's face it,

477
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 2: the robots are better. We will be going underground soon.

478
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Speaker 2: Is it black and white? Does the strike zone change

479
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Speaker 2: with the batter? Well, I think it has to change

480
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Speaker 2: with the batter a little bit, right, It's at least

481
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Speaker 2: I think it's supposed to. An MLB game is not

482
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Speaker 2: a video game. Get rid of the computers and the lasers.

483
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Speaker 2: Be a traditionalist, love the pastime, old school guy.

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Speaker 1: Three two zero.

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Speaker 2: You're dying breed, old school guy. I don't know that

486
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: there's enough of you out there that matter at this point.

487
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: They're all young with it. And while like Brett blakemore

488
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: and they want answers and they want results, and they

489
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Speaker 2: want their referees and umpires shamed as often as possible,

490
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Speaker 2: you would say, just held accountable. I would say shamed that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just there. It's not all umpires.

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Speaker 3: But but yes, and actually, yeah, I do agree with

493
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Speaker 3: you in the unlimited challenges thing, like that's on them

494
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Speaker 3: for blowing their two challenges earlier in the game.

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you there. But yeah, some of that's hard.

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Speaker 2: But in defense of that decision, that's the hard part

497
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Speaker 2: about this one. You know, let's say, I don't know

498
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Speaker 2: if they challenged early on and again is maybe to

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Speaker 2: save an inning or keep an inning a lot or

500
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: bases loaded and one out. You know who knows in

501
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: baseball whether that's going to be your last grit, best

502
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: scoring chance. That's that's what's hard to do. Now, how

503
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: about this one? This is Steve, longtime listener from River Falls.

504
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: Why did an MLB learn from pro tennis? Probably arrogance

505
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: Tennis went through this challenge phase before settling on robo

506
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Speaker 2: calling at all times, and it really works. Go Falcons

507
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: going for the D three Championship three p today at

508
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Speaker 2: three in National NCAA Women's hockey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I as much as I don't like going all robo,

511
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: I think this middle ground is the worst of the three.

512
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: My first choice would be to not have it in

513
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: at all and let and have the imperfections of the

514
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: balls and strikes being called the way out they always have.

515
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: But if that ship is sailed and you're not going

516
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: to go back because the technology and everything else, and

517
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Speaker 2: because we've got to get a right, then to me,

518
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Speaker 2: the approach they're taking now is is the worst of

519
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Speaker 2: the three options. Now they may say we know this,

520
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: but this is a process. So we're going to go

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Speaker 2: through it for a year. We're going to see how

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Speaker 2: it goes. Probably people are going to end up demanding

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Speaker 2: what Stephen river Falls is demanding, and we'll get there.

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Speaker 2: It's just getting You've got to give us a minute

525
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: where everybody can more greatly appreciate that we must just

526
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Speaker 2: just give it up to the robots.

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Speaker 1: Completely.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there's you know, union's issue. There's this union

529
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Speaker 2: situation with with the umps that they're trying to work through,

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Speaker 2: and so they're going with the middle ground to get

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Speaker 2: them probably to that other place. To that point sixty

532
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Speaker 2: five to one guy, Could this be the start of

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Speaker 2: a not so covert movement by the bumpires to create

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Speaker 2: enough people that could lead to eliminating the automated balls

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Speaker 2: and strikes system?

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what he means.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is he saying you purposefully missed the calls?

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Speaker 2: Isn't if you purposely missed the calls, isn't that going

539
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: to make it more likely that more people will believe

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Speaker 2: in the automated balls and strike system? You understand, I'm

541
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Speaker 2: not missing his point.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm missing it In any case, Uh, this is

544
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: six one two guy. I know it's terrible for the game. Yeah, Dan,

545
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: you don't have to sugarcoat it with Chris writes people

546
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: are a holes and treat others like they wouldn't want

547
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: to be treated, while ignoring how important good officiating, how good,

548
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: how fun good personalities from officiating are. Well, I'll give

549
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: you you want a second, I'll set.

550
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Speaker 1: I'll break my own record.

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00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: I'll pat myself on the back with my second I

552
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: told you so in the same show, same hour, same show,

553
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: you and a lot of people lost their minds thinking

554
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: that there was an overreaction to whatever nas Read said,

555
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Speaker 2: to which official was Scott Foster Foss.

556
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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys, and what did I say?

557
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: I said, Well, maybe I said, but I'd like to

558
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: find out what Read alleged or what he said. Well,

559
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: he said enough that he's been fined fifty thousand dollars,

560
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: which would I think indicate to me, by the way,

561
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: because this is a league now that's a lot softer

562
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: on stuff like this than he used to be under

563
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: David Stern. But that tells me, now, fifty thousand in

564
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: you know this day and age, is not a massive fine,

565
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: but it's a pretty good one for getting thrown out

566
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Speaker 2: of a game. So what is that that tells me?

567
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: He well, went over the line and the idea that.

568
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Speaker 2: But because we're we are obsessed with officials, We've all

569
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Speaker 2: got we've got this this visceral hatred of everything that

570
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Speaker 2: they allegedly represent. They want to make it too much

571
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: about themselves. We're not willing to consider well, maybe what

572
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Speaker 2: he said is that far over the line you can't

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 1: That's what that find kind of tells me. You know.

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Speaker 2: The larger point is that I grew up with an

576
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: NBA in which some of the referees were characters. Mendy, Rudolph,

577
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: Darryl Garretson. The list goes on. There's a bunch of them,

578
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: and you can say, well, they're not supposed to be

579
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: the show. But I think they actually made themselves part

580
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: of the entertainment in a sense that was more good

581
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: than bad. But the kids today don't even want to

582
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Speaker 2: consider that possibility. They want nothing to do with that

583
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: prospect or because I think what the best ones did

584
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: was they knew how to, let's say, fireback, but they

585
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: did know how to talk to players, and occasionally, when

586
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: they got crossed, they went hard that said player.

587
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Speaker 1: And I actually think that the give and take.

588
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: Took away the likelihood that things are going to get

589
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: out of hand that we see now I think on

590
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: more on a regular basis. Now. Some of that is

591
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: also on the refs, to the extent that some of them,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, feel they can't do what some of those

593
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: old time great refs did. But the other hand, I

594
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: think some of them maybe having mastered the art of

595
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: how you don't overreact to some things. You pace yourself,

596
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: you take your time, and you learn how to occasionally

597
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: discuss whatever the beef is that the player has in

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Speaker 2: a way that might take away from the likelihood that

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Speaker 2: the next time the player is going to be quite

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Speaker 2: as bitter. That the sense the player gets at some

601
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: point is okay, he listened to me on that, and

602
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: maybe next time I saw he actually responded and gave

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00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: me the call in that exact same situation in a

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Speaker 2: way he had not done the first time. Lots more

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Speaker 2: time share text coming in. Let's get another break. Now

606
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 2: we are going to have to talk about whether we're

607
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: reaching the point of wild and crisis. What's that dividing

608
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: line between calm down, you're just trying to get through

609
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: the season, get everybody healthy, experiment to well, no, this

610
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: is starting to look like a team that's not close

611
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 2: to playing its best hockey.

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00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: What's that line?

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Speaker 2: And there's a Timberwolves I don't say problem to discuss,

614
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: but they got killed by the Pistons at home yesterday.

615
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: That was alibied away by the number of people we

616
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: had out even though the Pistons had a legitimate MVP

617
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: candidate out a better MVP candidate this year frankly than

618
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards out no mention of that. Interestingly enough, but

619
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Speaker 2: why I'm in the group that believes the Wolves deserve

620
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: almost zero sympathy for the fact that they're now suddenly

621
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 2: hit by the injury bug. So lots of winter sports

622
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: stuff hockey and basketball to get to Tiger Woods update

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Speaker 2: as well, and will be done as I said at

624
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock for worst case scenario, do you want your

625
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: comic relief for the morning. The NBA has suspended Lakers

626
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: guard Luka Doncic for Monday's matchup against the Washington Wizards.

627
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: The NBA's leading scorer was called for a sixteenth technical

628
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: file of the season Friday, triggering an automatic one game ban.

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Speaker 2: He received his sixteenth technical with just over five minutes

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Speaker 2: remaining in the third quarter against the Brooklyn Nets after

631
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: committing an offensive file in the backcourt. Nets small forwards

632
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: Zaire Williams came over to celebrate, and Doncic shoved him aside.

633
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: Williams reacted aggressively, triggering a review for a hostile act.

634
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: Both Doncic and Williams were assessed technical files. After the

635
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: review you ready for it. After the game, Doncich said

636
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: he disagreed with the call. He's sitting down. He disagreed.

637
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 2: I didn't even talk. I just wanted to get out

638
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: of there. They said I pushed, my push was exaggerated,

639
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: which it obviously was not. And I don't know what

640
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: else to say. Here's an evergreen comment. Lakers coach JJ

641
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: Reddick said he expected the team to appeal the call

642
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: by the way they appealed their way out of the

643
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: last one. The dark humor that's now associated with Luka

644
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: Doncic weaseling his way out of a proper suspension and

645
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: expecting anybody to believe him when he says, well, I

646
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 2: didn't think it was a good call. Is it's almost

647
00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: too good and too laughable and too sad to be true.

648
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 2: There's I guess, the possible exception of Day Day Draymond Green,

649
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: who's become a little less I guess relevant this year

650
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: because the Warriors, Golden State Warriors, believe it or not,

651
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: are not that relevant.

652
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: There's nobody quite like Luca. I guess.

653
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: If you're in the newspaper business, you have to quote them,

654
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: but I would immediately there is no less objective person

655
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: about worthiness of a technical file being called on him

656
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: than Luca because by all rights, he wouldn't have sixteen

657
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: technical files. He'd probably have forty five. The grade on

658
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: a different curve with him and they it's just like

659
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: they graded on a different curve with Dreamer. I just

660
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: love that. After the game, Doncic said he disagree with

661
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: the call. And here's the thing. This is the sticky

662
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 2: wicket here that people don't want to seem to accept.

663
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: We have double technicals called all the time, right, it's

664
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: the nature of that kind of brush up, dust up.

665
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: It's not worthy of throwing anybody out. But we have

666
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: to make some kind of a point. We have to

667
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: acknowledge whatever the pushing and shoving was, it's not the

668
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: referees fault that Luka Doncic has fifteen technicals.

669
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: For a player who isn't in that position. It's no

670
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: big deal. It's just double technical. That's what we do.

671
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: The sad part is I think the league has made

672
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: way too many allowances for him. That's where I actually

673
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: am on the side of the folks who think, well,

674
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: in this case, it wouldn't be the officials. It would

675
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: be the people who pay the officials, making it too

676
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: easy for him to appeal his way out, as he

677
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: did successfully the last one. Dan, thank you for helping

678
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: me get in touch with my inner timeshare loathing self.

679
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: I just realized I've wished I had a timeshare so

680
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: I could call that timeshare killing dude. You've eased my mind,

681
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: enhanced my inner peace. Danny, You're better than a therapist

682
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 2: and less expensive. Longtime listener David from Hastings nine to five.

683
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: Two Guy Rights held hostage for five hours in Florida

684
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: for a timeshare pitch, only there to get two free

685
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: tickets to Disney World. Finally, during our eighth closing sales pitch,

686
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: I said, can we just get our Disney tickets? Sales

687
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: guy put his head down, set us on our way,

688
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: got our tickets, and got out of there. In my case,

689
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: it was two oversized, really posh and tony plush bath towels.

690
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: Wasn't even tickets, so that that was it. A couple

691
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: of bath towels from the hotel. They were nice, But

692
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: that's the game and everybody knows it, so I get

693
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: why if you're on the other side of it, trying

694
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: to sell the you know, do the sale that you

695
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: got bosses who are saying you can't let them leave.

696
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: They're gonna say no right away, but they also know

697
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: what's the bit because what I said is, I'll take

698
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 2: all this outther consideration. I don't make decisions this quickly

699
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: on something like this. And of course they know they're

700
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: stuck because once the person leaves the building, leaves the

701
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: locked office, they're not going to get the sale.

702
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: So I get the game. But it was ominous.

703
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: It reached a point of enough because what they do

704
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: is they work two people at least with us, and

705
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, we bring the second one in

706
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 2: good cop.

707
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: They do get's basically a good cop bad cop.

708
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: So then the good cop comes in like, hey, I

709
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: understand some of your hesitation, but I.

710
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: Just made a couple of phone calls pull some strength.

711
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like from Fargo. Hey, I talked to my

712
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: boss about it.

713
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you the clearcoat for free.

714
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: And so I mean, I'm not you know, I mean

715
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: not naive to stuff like that. And so I didn't

716
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: react the way they want. It was, Oh, now you're

717
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 2: talking like no changes everything.

718
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: It's not going to change anything, and so I h.

719
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: There's a fantastic South Park episode about is it that

720
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 3: exact situation? Yes, where they're buying a timeshare, you know,

721
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: up in Vail, and just no matter what they did,

722
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 3: they would leave the next door.

723
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: They'd be in there.

724
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 3: Yes, they'd go on a ski lift would take them

725
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: back into the office.

726
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: Is brilliant.

727
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you like to buy my time share so

728
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: you can savor the process of getting out I've been

729
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: working on for a year. I should have called Chuck

730
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 2: granted Maple Grove. The Timberwolves have a timeshare at Target

731
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: Center since their opponent owns the place every other weekend

732
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: and the Wolves seems barred from showing up.

733
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: Wow, bitterness there.

734
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: How funny would it be if the timeshare people lock

735
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 2: you into a crazy long term payment plan after getting

736
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: you out of the time share? Rosie has a timeshare

737
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: liber uses down somewhere.

738
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: I alto.

739
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm actually worried about being forced to inherit a time share.

740
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: In laws have close to one hundred thousand dollars invested

741
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: and nobody wants it. That's interesting. Are you obligated to

742
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: inherit a timeshare that way? That seems wrong have a

743
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: time share in Rome, Italy started in Vegas with my brother,

744
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: but it truly is a decent investment. And yes I

745
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: did sit through a timeshare PowerPoint, but I did receive

746
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 2: an iPad loll love the show. So you know, Louis

747
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 2: got a time share, no shock, and Louis's very happy

748
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: with his. So again they I think it probably depends

749
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: on what you spent on it, but a lot of

750
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: it is that those hidden costs where they go, well,

751
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: we're doing improvements, so next year it's going to cost

752
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: you an extra fifteen thousand dollars above whatever you make.

753
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: We make you pay a year. And that's where it

754
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: gets funky and iffy and just greasy, where it's like,

755
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: well wait a minute, improve it's for what you just

756
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: found a way to steal another fifteen thousand dollars from me.

757
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: Well they'll come back. They'll come back. Is what's in

758
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: the fine print, what you signed up for. So I

759
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 2: think all of that is indeed the case.

760
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: Dan.

761
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: The guy who's telling you can get you out of

762
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: the times share is likely guy who was a timeshare salesman.

763
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: There's got to be a catch. I think he's an

764
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: attorney what's the name again?

765
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: I think I don't remember, but I think that's part

766
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: of the pitch.

767
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I was a timeshare guide. Now I'm getting

768
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: it out. Let's do this.

769
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna start with your Wild club a second segment,

770
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: I mean second hour. I should say I've got some

771
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: wool stuff to get to as well and more texts.

772
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: Hour two is next, our.

773
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: Number two of the Sunday sermons, and part of what

774
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: we need to explore between now and eleven o'clock is

775
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 2: whether we are approaching crisis mode for the Minnesota Wild

776
00:44:54,360 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: and they're lovely fans. We lose in Boston yesterday final?

777
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: Was there at least one open netter? Was it six

778
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: to three?

779
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: Was that the final? Final was six to three? Six

780
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: to three?

781
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: And well, I mean again, I I don't know. I've

782
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: talked about threading the needle on this and and finding

783
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: the right balance between paying attention to regular season results

784
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: when you feel like the team's just not playing very

785
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: well and that's a problem and EBB and flow not

786
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: that much to play for at this point. Too late

787
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: to tank to go down one spot, I think, and

788
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: we assumed too late to actually move up, although as

789
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: we talked about as recently as Friday, we were only

790
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: three points behind Dallas, and Dallas had one game in

791
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 2: hand right going into the Boston game. So unless unless

792
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 2: Dallas played in between, I don't know, played on Saturday.

793
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: So the overall we're in a stretch of basically being

794
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: a meandering hockey team for quite some time. We've we've

795
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: been fairly ordinary since the extended Olympic break.

796
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, overall, that's more or less true.

797
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: Caprice Off I got ripped by the caprice Off terrorists

798
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 2: for saying that we're not seeing what he really needs

799
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: to be for this team, and we haven't recently.

800
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: And so oh he's hurt.

801
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: Okay, whatever he is, it's not good enough, whether he's

802
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: injured or he's got some kind of you know, secret

803
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: body part ailing him. Even he talked about the fact,

804
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: now maybe this was urged on him, I'm not sure.

805
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: Made it sound like, well, things are not going very

806
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: very well. So where are you now on the current

807
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: condition of the Minnesota While right.

808
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: Now I mean not to play the fence, but I'm

809
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: somewhere in the middle where I think both things are true.

810
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: Where A that's not a death sentence for the playoffs

811
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 3: and things could change. And you know they've played seventy

812
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 3: four games, so do the math. They're eighty two seventy four.

813
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 3: It looks like home Ice Dallas is a game in

814
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: hand and have ninety nine points the wild of ninety four. Okay,

815
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: back to yeah, so we was pretty Dallas to fall

816
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 3: off a little bit. So basically home Ice is more

817
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 3: or less done and dusted, so it's not a death

818
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: sentence and things can change. However, things need to change,

819
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: and they can't go into the playoffs playing like this

820
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: and having these type of vibes.

821
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: It's just not it's not good enough.

822
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I'm somewhere in the middle where

823
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 3: it absolutely has to change and this isn't good enough,

824
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: un acceptable, all the cliches you throw around. But also,

825
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 3: you know, if it was game one of the playoffs tomorrow.

826
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: I'd be very worried.

827
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: But it's not, and we've still got a little bit

828
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 3: of time to work out whatever kinks is going on there.

829
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: That's kind of where I'm at right seven seven and

830
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 2: two since the Olympic break. So we're just an an

831
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: average team in that regard. The I mean caprice off

832
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 2: the quote from him, just need better, can't score.

833
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: I just need to be better.

834
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: It's funny enough he did score, and then he did,

835
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 2: although that we already down three to nothing in the game.

836
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: He'd gone through a six game stretch without a goal,

837
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: just two points in that period, which I think is

838
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: part of what we discussed Thursday or Friday and is

839
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: a minus four interesting quote here from where.

840
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: Did it go? No? Not that one good enough?

841
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: This is oh, this is Faber. Did you see the

842
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: favor quote talking about the Bruins. Yes, they're playing for

843
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: their lives. That's always a hard team to play against.

844
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: Ever since I've been part of the while they've always

845
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: seemed so fast, big, physical, So especially when they're fighting

846
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: for their lives, that's a hard team to play against.

847
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: We definitely could have played better, but the end of

848
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: the day, they have played us and deserved that win.

849
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: You know, again, I don't think I've given up the

850
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: ghost that there's just no chance that they can get

851
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 2: out of the first round this year. On the other hand,

852
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: and we've said this for months, it's a cruel game, man,

853
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: and given how good the division is, it could end immediately.

854
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: That's the scary part about it is that as good

855
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: as they played for much of the season, they make

856
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: the big move with Quinnesota, make a number of ancillary

857
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 2: moves that people think can be sneaky good to help.

858
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: But if you don't batten down the hatches, and if

859
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 2: you don't tighten things up, and I think that's the

860
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: Bill Garin warning to the team, then you're not gonna

861
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: get points for a while. You know, they really were

862
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: good for a lot of the season. It really feels

863
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: like they're a team that could go someplace. This time

864
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: you don't get grant I fathered in that way, and

865
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: then it's over and then we're going, well, what just happened?

866
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: So they obviously and and I don't know what strings,

867
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 2: you know, can be pulled at this point, you know

868
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm not even sure what you do.

869
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 2: Although we do have I guess we want to practice

870
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 2: a lot. I think we had four days off to

871
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: our next game, don't we. So is this an opportunity

872
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: to sort of, you know, strip it down a little

873
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 2: bit again and try to get back to some of

874
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: the basics. I don't know, how would you do? How

875
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: was the goaltending yesterday? It had their moments, but I

876
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 2: just think a lot of them.

877
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't.

878
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 3: I think blaming everything on the goaltending just as a

879
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 3: whole isn't exactly correct. And you know, some of them

880
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 3: were weird bounces and screens and so I don't know,

881
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 3: I would say average, But when you're when you're giving

882
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 3: up those chances and high costs, sometimes it would just

883
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 3: deflect in and it was just a wide open net

884
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 3: or a two on one that, uh, the goaltender had

885
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 3: no chance at. So I don't know, I don't really

886
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 3: it was it was fine, It wasn't the reason they

887
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: lost the game.

888
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: I think it was the guys in front of him.

889
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: In my opinion, Yeah, I think it's it's usually a

890
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: combination of both, but I think that's a that's a

891
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: big part of it.

892
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: I would like to see some of the.

893
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 2: I mean, our offensive numbers since the Quinn got here

894
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: have gone way up right for a stretch for a

895
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: long time, we were the top scoring team in the league.

896
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: But I don't think I don't sense the words good defensively.

897
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: I'm not putting that on him, but I'm saying in

898
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: general that may be a combination of goaltending and people

899
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: in front of the goalies as well. You know, and

900
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: in the end, I still think that's supposed to be

901
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: where the bread's buttered with this team, that there's the

902
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: basic stuff that I still don't know that I've used

903
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: as a team that wants to constantly get him shootouts.

904
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: Even if we're better prepared to shoot out perhaps than

905
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 2: we used to, I still like to think we got

906
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: to be more fundamentally sound defensively than we have indeed

907
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: been nine to five to two.

908
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: This is Daryl from Bloomington.

909
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I'm on board with your assessment of

910
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: nas Read getting tossed. In my opinion, there's something possibly

911
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: biased between Scott Foster and the Wolves. Foster was the

912
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: referee toss Rudy a couple of years back, and that's

913
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: when Rudy got fine one hundred grand. I'm with you

914
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: about the softness of the current state of the NBA.

915
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: It's bad.

916
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 2: If Stern we're still in charge, this wouldn't be happening.

917
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: Teams would have more respect than the referees, wouldn't feel like

918
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: they need to be part of the show. Well no,

919
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: in fact, referees actually believe it or not, Daryl used

920
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 2: to be a greater part of the show a greater,

921
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 2: not a lesser part, a greater part of that's one

922
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: of the great misnomers, and be like, oh, they want

923
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 2: to be too much of the No, there were more

924
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 2: referees who did that for better or for worse than

925
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: their due than there there are now. On the bias thing,

926
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: it's possible, but I would also say the bias probably

927
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 2: works both ways at this point, and no team, there's

928
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: not a team in the league better and wallowing in

929
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: its own pity self pity when it comes to officiating.

930
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: And it's been a quite frankly, I think it's been

931
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: a problem that I thought they're finally getting better at

932
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: Edward's definitely better this year. I'm not sure Nas has.

933
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: I think Nas has actually gotten worse in a quieter way.

934
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: But I'll say again, you can't leave out whatever was said,

935
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: and obviously the NBA has noted it, and that's why

936
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: they fined him. Unless you want to see the NBA

937
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: isn't on the conspiracy too, go ahead, But the immediate

938
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: gut reaction.

939
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: To well, that's that's awful. Quick, what are you doing?

940
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing.

941
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how quick it is, depending on what

942
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: magic words are used. And beyond that, it's not the

943
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: ref Whether you love the referees involved or not, it's

944
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: not their responsibility going wait a minute, I've been They're

945
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: really down a lot of players already, they're down injured players,

946
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: they're down, rudy filing out. I got it back off here.

947
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: That's not the job of a ref Sorry, it just

948
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 2: isn't the larger issue. I'll save it for next segment.

949
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: Regarding the Wolves, kind of playing with fire now, given

950
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: that I believe of our eight remaining game six are

951
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: on the road.

952
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 1: And we're not in free fall.

953
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 2: We're certainly not going to fall any lower than six,

954
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 2: but we're not giving ourselves much of a chance to

955
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,479
Speaker 2: move up to three or four, which is I think

956
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: the the objective for me. It would be the objective

957
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: if you indeed could do it. Now that's getting harder

958
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: because of the injuries piling up. Desumo missed another game yesterday,

959
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: Jaden was out yesterday. Edwards has has been I guess

960
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: cleared to practice again. He was in street clothes yesterday.

961
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: I don't know how quickly he might be back in

962
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 2: the lineup, But there is there's another Wolves lesson that

963
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: I think we need to discuss as well. We will

964
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 2: get to reminded by a listener. We'll get to owe

965
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: to a dead guy. Today, there is a sad news

966
00:54:53,680 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: involving a former Minnesota Viking and mix and match maybe

967
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: even get into some big dance stuff as well.

968
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: Six four six eighty six. That is the brat Shawn

969
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: Bryant k f a n text line back in six

970
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: one two. Guy right Zucarella needs to be.

971
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: Taking off the power play immediately favor saying advantge of

972
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,959
Speaker 2: Hughes passes to him. Quinn Hughes needs to be given

973
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 2: full control of team philosophy. I don't even know what

974
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: all that means. But what do you want to what

975
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 2: do you want to say about it?

976
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 3: Pretty sure it's a Carella scored a power play goal

977
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 3: last day. But uh, he's a pretty good passer of

978
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 3: the puck. But I it is frustrating and people get

979
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 3: upset when there are passers on the power play, myself

980
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: included in the past.

981
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: But uh, I think he makes pretty good plays.

982
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 2: Uh so you would not you would not endorse. I'd

983
00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: let it ride that position, all right, fair enough? I

984
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: had one other there was another text. We're getting more

985
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: and more of these as you know, hold on, where

986
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,479
Speaker 2: did it go? Dances? The wild traff of the Hughes.

987
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: They went from one of the best defensive seams and

988
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 2: lead to one of the highest scoring. The results we're exciting.

989
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: But since peaking with the Olympic break, not only is

990
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: defense still absent, but the scoring is dried up. Hughes

991
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: is an amazing talent, but if you can just play

992
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: half of all games, the scoring will need to return.

993
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: Otherwise I don't see anything. The scoring will need to

994
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: return otherwise I.

995
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: Don't see anything changing.

996
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: I think what Andy is saying is you lose a

997
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: little defense, or maybe the defensive philosophy upon which this

998
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: team was built, making it more about what Hughes can

999
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: give you offensively, but then you better get it, you know,

1000
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: you better get more offense.

1001
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: That makes there's some logic to that is or not.

1002
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 3: I mean, we've been going in the playoffs for twenty

1003
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 3: five years with defense, defense, Gret, gret, grit and hasn't

1004
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 3: gotten this much.

1005
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: So I'll take the offense.

1006
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: The Wolves again, given the fact that Detroit Pistons are

1007
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: a hell of a team. I love speaking of teams

1008
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 2: that play good defense. Detroit Pistons are relentless. They played

1009
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 2: that against the Wolves. Now, again, the Wolves were down

1010
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 2: a lot of offensive firepower, but they also still had

1011
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: some significant pieces who couldn't hit a shot, who couldn't score,

1012
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 2: And after the game Finchy made it sound like we

1013
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: had nothing but open shots everywhere and didn't hit them.

1014
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 2: I think he's not giving quite enough credit to the

1015
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: Pistons defense. I think statistically it's one to Detroit and

1016
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: San Antonio, Davy and maybe San Antonio's one. They are

1017
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: the definition of rugged defensively. You put the ball on

1018
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: the floor against those guys and you're immediately dealing with

1019
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: not just the defender right in front of you, but

1020
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: one or two helping out. It reminds me a little

1021
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 2: bit of the Thunder. Maybe the Thunder, I guess it

1022
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: should be the Thunder, not the Spurs. Other team at

1023
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 2: the top of the defensive heap as well. So given

1024
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: who the Wolves had out, you can say, Okay, well

1025
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a tough game to win, even though

1026
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 2: the Piston's best player was not available a legitimate MVP candidate.

1027
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: But I don't have much sympathy for the Wolves in

1028
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: that sense. That man, you know, the injuries are starting

1029
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: to pile up and that's just tough to overcome one

1030
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: after the other. But we all know, we've talked about

1031
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: it a lot on the Weekday Show and on Sunday.

1032
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: The Wolves spent a good what was.

1033
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: It, three months of the season about as healthy as

1034
00:58:55,400 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: any team in recent professional basketball memory. As Johnny Athletic

1035
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: points out, the starting five of Edwards, McDaniels, Randall, de

1036
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: Vincenzo and Gobar have played seven hundred and ten minutes

1037
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: together the season, which is by far the most of

1038
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: any five man unit in the NBA, and the more so.

1039
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: The moral of the story is when you have that

1040
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: kind of health, and you have while other teams are

1041
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: laced with injuries, significant injuries throughout the season, and you

1042
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: don't give yourself a little wiggle room, a little equity

1043
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 2: to prepare yourself for maybe the injuries kind of kind

1044
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: of evening out. Then why any sympathy Wolves made their

1045
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: own bed in this And again they're not It's not

1046
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: like they have a horrible record, but in terms of

1047
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: what they're dealing with now, they needed to build a

1048
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: better resume that would have made it easier to accept

1049
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: perhaps a little of this losing down the stretch and

1050
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: may they would not have been in quite the same

1051
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 2: position fighting for Basically you're talking about fighting for these

1052
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: seeds between three and six. One and two are pretty

1053
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 2: much settled, and even three. Now the Wolves our three

1054
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: games behind the Lakers. Now again, you could say we

1055
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 2: can beat the Lakers without home ice, and I don't

1056
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 2: disagree with that being a good possibility, but I'd still

1057
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: always prefer to fight for it and get it and

1058
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 2: have the extra home game if it is indeed necessary.

1059
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 2: So when you lose games to bad teams, as the

1060
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: Wolves did in a number of cases Memphis, Chicago, the Jazz,

1061
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: the Kings, hard to have much sympathy for them now, saying, man,

1062
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: look at it, I mean, how can we I mean,

1063
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: that's too much scoring power to lose. It's really not

1064
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 2: fair to expect us to compete and have much of

1065
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: a chance at this point. Obviously, they rose above it

1066
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 2: nicely in one of the best victories of the season

1067
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: against Houston, but overall, that's why they're in the position

1068
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: they're in. When they were the very picture of health,

1069
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 2: they did not come close to maximizing the opportunities from

1070
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 2: a records record standpoint.

1071
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 3: So.

1072
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 2: You know, you can look at this a lot of

1073
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: different ways. As we said that, I like what the

1074
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: look of Island and Desumu together. We got a taste

1075
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 2: of that in the Houston comeback. Well, actually no earlier,

1076
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: I should say, and we I think we and we

1077
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 2: certainly seen now Bones was not a factor again yesterday

1078
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 2: and Assumer was out, but we've seen the team have

1079
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: a little bit different energy and look with those two

1080
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: on the court, and I'm encouraged by that. I'm encourag

1081
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 2: that that could even translate and be helpful at keyp

1082
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 2: points in the postseason when every possession seems to matter

1083
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: even more so. That's to the good. But on the

1084
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: injury thing, come on, man, that's I guess. The only

1085
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: good thing about the injuries is it gave the two

1086
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 2: of them a chance to bond a little bit and

1087
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 2: to emerge as maybe a potent different look of a

1088
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 2: backcourt at times that other teams in the playoffs might

1089
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 2: not be ready for. But beyond that, take care of

1090
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 2: business early, start your season earlier, and maybe they would

1091
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: not be in this position at all, or they'd have

1092
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 2: you know, maybe they would have three cemented, but maybe

1093
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 2: they would have four.

1094
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: Now, I will add.

1095
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 2: Denver looks more problematic to me than the Wolves ups

1096
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: and downs. I mean, Denver can't guard anybody. I would

1097
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: like the Wolves matchup against them. I really would, even

1098
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: though Denver on paper is deeper than it was a

1099
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: year ago. We all thought the bench was their issue,

1100
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 2: but they they're They're having great difficulty sustaining anything. They

1101
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: had to come from behind a couple of days ago

1102
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: to beat Utah and defensively, I even heard a quote

1103
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: from Joker basically saying that they're not really guarding anybody.

1104
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: And I don't think that's something you could turn on.

1105
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: I think the Wolves have that in them. There's enough

1106
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: good defensive players. It's in their DNA, I think more

1107
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 2: than it is in Denvers, even though Denver does have

1108
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 2: a little bit of championship DNA as well. Six four

1109
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: six eighty six. That is the Bradshaw and Bryant k

1110
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: fa N text line. Wild will tighten up defensive lapses

1111
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: is a five minute, a five man issue. Look at

1112
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: the number of five man rushes. Clearly Hughes a tremendous

1113
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 2: offensive skill in tendensees. The number of five man rushes

1114
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 2: is not all on him. Five man defensive responsibilities must

1115
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: must and will tighten, must and will tighten. Capricetoft did

1116
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 2: better yesterday in the prior game, but his injury and

1117
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 2: time off resulted in some rust, primarily from a timing perspective,

1118
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: but as he acknowledges, he needs to be better. Goaltending

1119
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: has been just okay, So there's an across the board

1120
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 2: challenge here, but he is trying to indeed keep the faith.

1121
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 2: Am I the only one who thinks the Wolves team

1122
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 2: is this Wolf team isn't prepared enough to deal with

1123
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 2: injuries to keep players too many over well players looking

1124
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 2: for Game seventy four. Maybe Aunt wouldn't even be dealing

1125
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 2: with his injury ifin she didn't let him play forty

1126
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 2: points in garbage time and had control of his players

1127
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 2: with a willingness to play a whopping nine players. I'm

1128
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: just trying to anticipate what you're about to rip them for.

1129
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: That is flim flam one word turnovers. That has been

1130
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: a bit of a problem from time to time, no question,

1131
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 2: especially against teams who can guard the way Detroit can

1132
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 2: guard the way obviously Okac can guard as well.

1133
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: Bottom of the hour break.

1134
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: I want to get to Tiger Woods update and a

1135
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: couple of other ancillary stories in our final half hour

1136
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: of today's show. Forget one hour edition of Worst Case Scenario.

1137
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: Then there's a lot of big dance stuff coming, a

1138
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,479
Speaker 2: couple of the Men's tournament on the fan, and there's

1139
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 2: something Oh, I have a couple good a couple more

1140
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 2: good texts to get to from conversations we have had

1141
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: much much earlier in this program related to timeshare and

1142
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 2: all the horrors associated with that particular concept.

1143
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: And now it's time for Owed to a dead guy.

1144
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 2: News breaking yesterday that one of the fifty greatest Vikings

1145
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 2: of all time, as so named in twenty ten, has

1146
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: died at the age of seventy five years old. The

1147
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: youngsters might not know the name, but the Oldheimer's will.

1148
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: Former Vikings linebacker Jeff Semen, one of us, by the way,

1149
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 2: has passed away or had passed away on Saturday. As

1150
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 2: I said, at the age of seventy five years old.

1151
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: He was.

1152
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: How do we describe him, because I remember watching him

1153
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 2: play some as a kid. It's a four time Pro

1154
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: Bowl selection linebacker, as we said, played eleven seasons as

1155
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 2: last was in nineteen eighty two, and was a contributor.

1156
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 2: I believe almost from the beginning started Mute dot Com

1157
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 2: reminds us that he remains third in Vikings history for

1158
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 2: career tackles, behind only teammates and Vikings Ring of Honor

1159
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 2: members Scott Studwell and Matt Blair.

1160
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: He I guess was kind of came in at towards

1161
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: the end of.

1162
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: The Purple people eaters run, shall we say, but was

1163
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 2: a highly dependable, effective linebacker really in a lot of

1164
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: different ways, had some great versatility to him. Started Super

1165
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 2: Bowl eight, actually started three of the four Viking Super Bowls,

1166
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 2: and after the Vikings lost in their last Super Bowl

1167
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 2: appearance against the Raiders three two to fourteen, he led

1168
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: the team in tackles, but said, people say we'll never

1169
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl. Who knows, we may never get

1170
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: here again. It's hard to say what this loss will

1171
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: do to this team. After each Super Bowl loss, it

1172
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: gets a little tougher to live with it. It won't

1173
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: be easy Lee living with this one. As we said,

1174
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 2: that was the last time that the Vikings got there.

1175
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 2: That's a long time ago, nineteen seventy seven, so that's

1176
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 2: twenty three, basically coming up on fifty.

1177
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: Years, right, Even I can do that math.

1178
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 2: It's a long, long time good quote from former Viking

1179
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 2: cornerback Bobby Bryant via the Vikings website. As good of

1180
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: a player as Jeff was, he was a better person.

1181
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 2: Truly one of the best guys we had. You never

1182
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 2: heard anyone speak cross of Jeff. His faith was his guy.

1183
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 2: He was not afraid to share it with people. He

1184
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 2: touched so many they have in the startdibune dot com

1185
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 2: story a nice photo of Jeff with his daughter Kelly,

1186
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: and he died in high school. This goes the photos

1187
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:55,759
Speaker 2: from November nineteen ninety six. She was apparently a basketball star.

1188
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: In fact, did go on to play at Notre Dame

1189
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 2: senior starter on the Notre Name team that won the

1190
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 2: title in two thousand and one. She is now an

1191
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 2: assistant coach at Liberty and has done some TV work

1192
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 2: as well. So Jeff Semen is again, I mean he's

1193
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: Is he an all time great NFL player?

1194
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: No, but he is.

1195
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 2: He's definitely worthy of being in that fifty Greatest Vikings

1196
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 2: named in twenty ten, and was again about as dependable

1197
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 2: a player behind the defensive line as the Vikings have

1198
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: had at the linebacker position. He's certainly right up there

1199
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 2: among some of the great linebackers. So gone at the

1200
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 2: but not forgotten at the age of as I said,

1201
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 2: seventy five years old. I don't know that there's that

1202
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 2: much new on tiger Woods. There was an interesting piece.

1203
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: I think is it Golf Digests. It's another one of

1204
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 2: those days where you're thinking, out low, well, we would

1205
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,799
Speaker 2: have John Feinstein on to talk about the Tiger Woods story,

1206
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: what to make of it?

1207
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 1: Speaking of passing away.

1208
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 2: And that's part of what gets tough about even doing

1209
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 2: this show as long as we have, is that you

1210
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 2: have people that you think of immediately great friends to

1211
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: the show, and you say, this is the person to

1212
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 2: put on the situation like this, and unfortunately, that, sadly enough,

1213
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 2: is not possible. I believe this is Golf Digest. I

1214
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: don't know the name of the writer. Something's wrong with

1215
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods. We don't know the struggles precise shape, but

1216
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 2: it's there, it has been there. The evidence is not subtle,

1217
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 2: it's not new. Thats the sad and disconcerting thing, and

1218
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 2: until it's reckoned with, honestly, everything else is secondary. And

1219
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 2: the premise of the piece is that there's been evidence

1220
01:10:52,520 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 2: that Tiger's got some significant issues regarding perhaps killers other

1221
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 2: things as well, reckless driving from time to time that

1222
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 2: that has tended to be put on the back burner

1223
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: because given his reach as a world class athlete and

1224
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: a guy who transformed the game of golf, the emphasis

1225
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: has tended to be on can we get him back there?

1226
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 2: And I don't I don't think that's necessarily bad. I

1227
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 2: understand that instinct. It's, well, when's he coming back from

1228
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 2: the latest back surgery? You know what's left in his game?

1229
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: And it may well be on this occasion. And again,

1230
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 2: I think all the charges he's facing are misdemeanors, but

1231
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 2: at least to this point, as I understand it.

1232
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: But is there a cumulative weight.

1233
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: Given especially that Tiger is clearly it doesn't appear really

1234
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 2: capable of sustaining anything thing on the regular golf tour

1235
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 2: for any length of time, if even for one event

1236
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 2: let alone, What might happen in the national tour that

1237
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 2: people emphasize less the well, you know, once he got left,

1238
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 2: and when can we get him back? And a little

1239
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 2: bit more about what is there should the constant? Should

1240
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 2: we be concentrating more on what he's struggling with and

1241
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 2: what he's doing. And again, I think we've talked about,

1242
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 2: you know, addiction to painkillers on this show in very different,

1243
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 2: many different contexts over the years, over the decades, and

1244
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 2: what addiction is. And I think the culture has reached

1245
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 2: a point where there's a greater understanding of what it

1246
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 2: leads people to do in a way that there's greater

1247
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 2: understanding and even compassion, especially if it's someone who is

1248
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: attempting to get help.

1249
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: Right.

1250
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 2: The disconnect though, for me, with all that being said,

1251
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: and I think all that being true is is getting

1252
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: back into a vehicle, Okay, getting back into a vehicle

1253
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 2: in that condition. Now, as it turns out in this case,

1254
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 2: nobody was badly hurt. I don't know that I would

1255
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 2: describe it the way the President has as a minor

1256
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 2: fender bender.

1257
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 1: When his vehicle is on its side.

1258
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 2: But regardless, it's the Okay, you have a problem, or

1259
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: you maybe have a series of problems. We'll see, we'll

1260
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 2: find out what we learn. But I think the part

1261
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 2: where we shouldn't have all that much tolerance, and I

1262
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 2: think have grown not to, is then don't get behind

1263
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 2: the wheel of vehicle in which you could end up

1264
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 2: hurting yourself and maybe killing somebody else as well. Correct,

1265
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 2: Isn't that the big issue is you have to that's

1266
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 2: what you have to control, You have to attempt to control.

1267
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: And there is this sort of.

1268
01:13:53,120 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: Mystery about well, look, I mean again, a man of

1269
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: exponential financial means right, I don't know how much money

1270
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 2: Tiger has?

1271
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: Do we know?

1272
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 2: Is it half a billion? Is it three hundred million?

1273
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 2: Is it a billion? I don't know what it is

1274
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 2: with Tiger Woods, but.

1275
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: It's a lot.

1276
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 2: Well, we'll agree it's a lot of money. I would

1277
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 2: say so, and you say, well, then if this is

1278
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 2: part of what you're dealing with, then then you should

1279
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 2: never drive. Now, I will say, I got a text.

1280
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: One Networth has over a billion. Okay, I wasn't sure

1281
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: on him.

1282
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 2: I thought it made sense, but I was reminded of

1283
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 2: this Friday when the story broke and we talked about it,

1284
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:44,719
Speaker 2: that there is some I think, open question about how

1285
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 2: hard this is to prove. Because they're saying he blew

1286
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 2: zero point zero.

1287
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: They're not thinking.

1288
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 2: They don't think it has anything to do with alcohol.

1289
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 2: They think he was impaired in some other significant way.

1290
01:14:55,040 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: He refused a urine test. I believe and what I

1291
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 2: was told by a couple of enforcements folks here is

1292
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 2: that this is this ends up being tough to prove. Now,

1293
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 2: certain states might have different rules than others, because I

1294
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 2: was told here the approach would be to try it

1295
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 2: would be to try to get a court order and

1296
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 2: to draw a blood sample. But even then is it

1297
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 2: does it get tricky about when it impaired you know

1298
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: how much it impaired him when the blood sample was

1299
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,759
Speaker 2: taken compared to when the accident took place.

1300
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: Whatever.

1301
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: But at some point, I think enough has happened with him.

1302
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 2: And again, these are just the things that we know

1303
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 2: about regarding these issues. That and I think he's he's

1304
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 2: acknowledged a decent amount of this before, and he's even

1305
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 2: seen he's even gotten treatment from time to time that

1306
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 2: where whether he's at that point or not, again, I

1307
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 2: don't know. But the I mean, let's face it, the

1308
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: President dismissed it because he's a buddy, or he think

1309
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 2: thinks he's a buddy, and he says he needs he

1310
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 2: pardoned immediately. This isn't at this point about the pardoning aspect.

1311
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: I don't think are about the criminal aspects so much

1312
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: as his life and again the inability to control whatever

1313
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 2: he's dealing with, at least to the point where he

1314
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 2: gets in somebody else's car or he's got a driver

1315
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: who takes him to where he needs to go. Because

1316
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 2: as you're dealing with whatever you're dealing with, whatever these

1317
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 2: demons are, the hope is that at least that you

1318
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: aren't going to be irresponsible enough to get into a

1319
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 2: vehicle as you're doing and drive it. And that's sort

1320
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 2: of where we are with this story as well. Rat

1321
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 2: Sean Brian kavan tech line is open at six four

1322
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 2: six eight six. Jeff Semen was constantly consistently there and

1323
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: always professional and dependable. I think that's a good way

1324
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 2: to put it. That's Tim from Rochester, and again I

1325
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 2: think even of the that era of Vikings, he's not

1326
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: well known. I think there's a lot of people who

1327
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 2: know some other names from that period who may not

1328
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 2: have been all that familiar with his name, but they

1329
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 2: should because he was again a very very very good,

1330
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 2: excellent professional linebacker.

1331
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: For sure, I.

1332
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 2: Think the Wolves would be better with Gnaw instead of Nas.

1333
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 2: Last year they had to choose between the two. While

1334
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 2: Knas could be a dynamic score. Now it seems you're

1335
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 2: better overall player and more consistent defensive player. I can't

1336
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 2: lie to you, because if I look back on it,

1337
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 2: I don't think I was pushing for one over the other.

1338
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 2: I think the question is whether, maybe we'll ask Johnny

1339
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 2: this tomorrow, was there any creative way.

1340
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: To get greedy and keep them all? We have been

1341
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 1: led to believe. The answer is no.

1342
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 2: And part of the reason this has become a story

1343
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 2: is nikiel has played so well Kaele. Alexander Walker has

1344
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 2: emerged to be one of the best basketball stories in

1345
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 2: the NBA right now. I mean he has been not

1346
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 2: just above average for the Atlanta Hawks, he has been

1347
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: a star for the Atlanta Hawks. And the question I

1348
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 2: always had was, well, if you're if you feel Conley's

1349
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 2: longer in the tooth, as important as he's been to

1350
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 2: the team, is that the guy you could develop to

1351
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 2: become enough of a point guard to play that position

1352
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 2: and be a start in that position. I know that's

1353
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 2: a question sam Mitchell asked me, and there wasn't. I

1354
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 2: don't think the Wolves necessarily looked at him, and that

1355
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 2: my guess is that he surprised the Wolves a little

1356
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 2: about how well he has played, not that he could

1357
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: be a good player, but how well he has played.

1358
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 2: Now we've had stretches, I remember where he's missed a

1359
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 2: bunch of shots. You go, man, he's just two. He's

1360
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 2: not dependable enough defensively, I should say offensively. But he's

1361
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 2: been outstanding. There's no question about that. Chris checks in

1362
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:12,560
Speaker 2: Good Show this morning. I enjoyed the first half of

1363
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: doing our run. I'll ben Gessling going back to your

1364
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: opening topic on robot OMPs. Just wait for the outrage

1365
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 2: when we start your allegations the people who set up

1366
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 2: the lasers bias because the league wants the Yankees or

1367
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 2: Dodgers to win, or have been gotten to by the

1368
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 2: gambling community or the Houston Astros.

1369
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 1: It's never going to stop. He's right.

1370
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: I've kidded about that several times that when you go

1371
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 2: to robot OMPs there will still be second guessing of

1372
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 2: the calls or saying, well, there's some buildings where whatever reason,

1373
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 2: the technology seems to work better than others, and then

1374
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: it will be well, it looks like the technology seems

1375
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: to be favoring the Dodgers and the Yankees. Isn't that interesting?

1376
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 2: What's that about? It's why I'm not interested in this

1377
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 2: search for truth, justice and the American way of getting

1378
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 2: every call right, because I don't think you're going to

1379
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 2: ever satisfy most of the rum just satisfy maybe a

1380
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 2: greater percentage of them, but you're not ever going to

1381
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 2: satisfy most of them, don't. I just don't believe. We'll

1382
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 2: see by the way the Twins did. They won yesterday, right,

1383
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 2: I believe so, And so we're even going into the

1384
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 2: rubber game of the series. I assume we're still playing

1385
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 2: the Orioles today. I don't even checked the schedule, you

1386
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 2: know me, I don't really check schedules. Right, they are,

1387
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 2: and the Twins basically gave They honored the new manager,

1388
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 2: Derek Shelton.

1389
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: With the.

1390
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 2: You know, congratulating him for their very first big victory.

1391
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 2: So he gets the baseball four to one win over

1392
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Orioles. Shelton seemed to very much enjoy that.

1393
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 2: Hopefully we can get him on kind of soon, it

1394
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:03,759
Speaker 2: would be nice.

1395
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: Pitching was.

1396
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 2: Pitching was quite good again in this and in this case,

1397
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 2: the bullpen did not let us down, and we had

1398
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:22,759
Speaker 2: royce Lewis with a tie breaking home run what's interesting

1399
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 2: about that, of course, is he got pinch hit for

1400
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 2: in the ninth inning of the opener, a conversation we

1401
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 2: got into late with Lavelle. I didn't think it made

1402
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: a lot of sense to given that I don't think

1403
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: there's much at stake this year. To me, you you

1404
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 2: throw Royce Lewis out there and give him every opportunity

1405
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: to succeed or fail. But obviously he wasn't that bothered

1406
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 2: by it, or at least not publicly. I think that

1407
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 2: there was. One of the stories I read was that

1408
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 2: the manager the first guy he went to see on

1409
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 2: Saturday before the game or when people came in for

1410
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 2: you know, come in for prep for the game, was

1411
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 2: y Lewis to explain exactly why he did what he did.

1412
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 2: Lewis made it sound like, as long as I'm playing,

1413
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 2: I'm fine.

1414
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: I no big deal to me.

1415
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, maybe for the new manager, it's a

1416
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 2: way of saying, nobody's sacred. I gotta do what I

1417
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 2: gotta do. And sometimes that's not a bad message to send.

1418
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 2: But given this season, it seems the goal is just

1419
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 2: to find out what the hell we have and whether

1420
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 2: Royce Lewis can be redeemed, it seemed to me, and

1421
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 2: I think Lavelle was in this same camp. It's just

1422
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 2: let him hit, even if you actually think there's a

1423
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 2: better alternative there, let him hit, because as much as

1424
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: you're going to try to win games, because that's you know,

1425
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 2: that's the nature of the job, there's not all realistically,

1426
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 2: there's not that much to play for there, you're really

1427
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 2: playing for sadly once again, Silver Linings two three, four

1428
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 2: years down the road pretty much.

1429
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: Did you see the soccer question that came in for you?

1430
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, would you read it because I just

1431
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: lost it now? And is it? Is it controversial? Is

1432
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: it is? Yes?

1433
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 3: So so my club, Tottenham Hotspur, that's right, Yeah, are

1434
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 3: in big trouble.

1435
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: That happened.

1436
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 3: They they just their owners are terrible. I mean, how

1437
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 3: much time do we got that the owners are terrible.

1438
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 3: They don't invest in the club at all, and then they're.

1439
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: Show they're the poll ads of that league.

1440
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would, I would say so. I mean they

1441
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 3: they do every they invest in everything, but the team.

1442
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,759
Speaker 3: They'll oh well we'll buy this, we'll build a brand

1443
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 3: new stadium, and we'll do this go kart track in

1444
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 3: the stadium.

1445
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: We'll host the NFL. Oh is it time to buy? Uh?

1446
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 1: You know this star winner, thanks for not doing it.

1447
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 3: So then when you do that, you don't have any injury,

1448
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 3: or if you have any injuries, you got no one

1449
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,719
Speaker 3: to replace said people. And it's just has gone downhill

1450
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 3: since they just fired their second manager of the season

1451
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 3: and we're on the brink of relegive relegation. So uh,

1452
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 3: when I go to London in May to see a game,

1453
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 3: it'll probably most likely be one of the last.

1454
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 1: Premier League games now in the team's history.

1455
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 2: So fantastic is not good because he plays in a bad,

1456
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 2: mediocre team though, and gets more time. Well, Atlanta's forty

1457
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,799
Speaker 2: two and thirty three. I mean, they're not like championship pedigree,

1458
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: but they're not bad. He is part of the reason

1459
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 2: they've they traded their best player and got better. So

1460
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 2: I don't know that you can dismiss it on that

1461
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 2: basis given he has been probably one of the two

1462
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 2: most important contributors to a team. They're in the sixth

1463
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 2: spot right now at forty Now it's the Eastern Conference,

1464
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 2: I grant you the point, but they're at forty two

1465
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 2: and thirty three, So I don't know that I would

1466
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 2: call that a that team bad and or mediocre. This

1467
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 2: some of the deals with Missile Latte Daily disagree the

1468
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 2: difficulty approving the test refusal. Don't have to show he

1469
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 2: was actually impaired, only have to show the officer had

1470
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 2: probably cause to believe he might be, which then invokes

1471
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 2: the driver's duty to submit to the test probably cause

1472
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 2: so exists and the driver's guilty of test refusal. Well,

1473
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 2: that's that's what I thought that it was the case.

1474
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 2: I don't know in terms of maybe the severity of

1475
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 2: it is more difficult in the way it has played

1476
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 2: out with Tiger, I don't know. So we'll see twins.

1477
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 1: Even with a win.

1478
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: Dan's find something controversial to criticize.

1479
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 1: You wait too hard on the poll, lads. Apparently, Oh

1480
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:29,879
Speaker 1: I didn't.

1481
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 2: I wasn't criticizing anything about the victory. What I was

1482
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 2: saying it wasn't even a criticism. It was what you

1483
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 2: try to do is you try to bring the story

1484
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 2: to the listener in a way that maybe they haven't

1485
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 2: thought of it. And to me, it's it's it's interesting

1486
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 2: that the guy who got pinched hit for the day,

1487
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 2: you know, late in crunch time, in the opener, doesn't pout,

1488
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 2: doesn't mope, comes back and smashes a home run to

1489
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 2: win the game. That's not I don't think that's controversial.

1490
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 2: I don't even think that's necessarily a rip. But I

1491
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 2: do think it's called context. It's trying to give context

1492
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 2: to a story. Now, I guess the negative part would

1493
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 2: be I thought, like Lavelle did, that I'm more of

1494
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 2: the old school managerial approach that if I'm with a

1495
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 2: team that is not about this season, because then we

1496
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 2: know that they're not. And maybe this manager can't look

1497
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 2: at it that way because he's lost. He lost a

1498
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 2: lot of games in Pittsburgh. It's probably tired of it

1499
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 2: on fears like why I'm going to be judged on,

1500
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 2: you know, to a certain extent, on what I can

1501
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 2: do with this group. That I would just prefer throwing

1502
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 2: them out there and testing him how he handles these

1503
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: various situations, especially early in the season, to help us

1504
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 2: better evaluate. Because remember, once upon a time we were

1505
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 2: going to build a whole franchise around Lewis and Buxton,

1506
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 2: but when Buxton was hurt, it was even like, well,

1507
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 2: Lewis might end up being the guy.

1508
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: And then it was who is this guy? Is he

1509
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: even redeemable at this?

1510
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 2: That's how it looked last year, and now I think

1511
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 2: this is the year where and maybe it'll work better

1512
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 2: with a managerial change, you know, I'm hearing.

1513
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Speaker 1: We'll get to this tomorrow in more detail.

1514
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 2: But some interesting quotes that can be interpreted a lot

1515
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 2: of ways out of the clubhouse, including from Buxton about

1516
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,759
Speaker 2: Shelton and is that complimenting Shelton or is that taking

1517
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 2: some kind of a you know, indirect shot at at

1518
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 2: at our guy, the bal Dalai Lama who he replaced.

1519
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1520
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: It's worthy of a discussion and will indeed attempt to

1521
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 2: do that as well. So yeah, Jalen Johnson is as

1522
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 2: I That's why I said that naw is one of

1523
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 2: I think there has been one of two the two

1524
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 2: most productive players for Atlanta worst case scenario for an hour,

1525
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 2: correct and then big dance stuff. That's the way of

1526
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 2: coming up today and then we're back tomorrow beginning of three.

1527
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 2: I think with Guardsie, I think he's back, isn't he?

1528
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 2: Or is he just going to stand sacrament back? Can

1529
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 2: you see Max's fro in a score I see earlier?

1530
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 2: I think he was lurking. Now he went back to

1531
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 2: the to the main area. Enjoy worst case scenario. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to you tomorrow three o'clock m