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Speaker 3: At five, what do we have for the top five?

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Speaker 3: We're gonna start with hockey.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it feels like hockey weather outside, right, and sure

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Speaker 3: Thanks to Florida or Maui or something.

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Speaker 4: And right as I turned it on, Zuccarello just gets

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Speaker 2: It had a good buzz after after the incident, which

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Speaker 4: So we're back home next correct Thursday, Thursday, Dallas.

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Speaker 4: We're out at five forty five on Thursday because we've

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Speaker 4: Here's help me out with this. You're a ball guy,

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Speaker 3: I got one better nap, but go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Well, this text came in, actually, this email came into

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Speaker 2: This may be sad news for you, but I competed

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Speaker 3: Right now? He's leading the what was your high school

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. Number eighty four. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Let me We actually played one of your videos last week,

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Speaker 5: Right. Well, I don't explicitly call out the Start Tribune.

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Speaker 5: Well, the governor has even acknowledged that the billion dollar

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Speaker 5: But I mean the Feeding our Future. I think part

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Speaker 5: And so as far as the article, I didn't really

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Speaker 3: That's the irony of this thing.

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Speaker 2: But I think this falls into the classification of well

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Speaker 2: you there's some desire to say it's because he's used

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Speaker 3: It could be millions, it doesn't have to be billions.

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Speaker 2: He's going to say the same thing, because that's just

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Speaker 5: I think the autism will be the next big piece

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Speaker 5: And so you know, if they're sending out four hundred

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Speaker 2: What is Tell me give me an update. You had

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's all related because any of these programs,

438
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,719
Speaker 5: including the autism and the housing stabilization, like like a

439
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 5: lot not not housing, but like the autism and a

440
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 5: lot of these other ones rely on Medicaid reimbursements. That's

441
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 5: like a fifty to fifty mix of federal and local money.

442
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 5: And so you know, nationally, doctor Oz, doctor memot Oz

443
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 5: runs the centers for Medicare and Medicaid, and he put

444
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 5: additional restrictions on the state kind of like oversight, like

445
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 5: you need to let us know what you're doing about fraud.

446
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 5: Otherwise we're going to turn off that money and that

447
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 5: would be pretty devastating to the state if that happens.

448
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 5: Obviously they're going to go along with with what they're

449
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 5: asking for. You know. Just just one more thing to

450
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 5: mention on on the overall questioning of the numbers is

451
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 5: Joe Thompson has never been political about any of this,

452
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 5: So I think it's odd for anybody to. I mean,

453
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Speaker 5: obviously you can't take some but he's worked for it

454
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 5: with nothing. But he gets a little bit of the

455
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 5: benefit of the doubt as the lead prosecutor in all

456
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 5: these cases, and knowing what information he has that he's

457
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,959
Speaker 5: not able to, you know, publicly reveal, like because these

458
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 5: people have not been charged yet. If he's going to

459
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Speaker 5: give a number of what he thinks is going to be,

460
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Speaker 5: that carries some weight. You know.

461
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Speaker 2: Politics, I don't is not so much your beat necessarily,

462
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: but you pay attention, and you know you certainly are

463
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Speaker 2: connected in a lot of ways. What kind of I mean,

464
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 2: the assumption is that this is going to play out

465
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: as a substantial maybe the substantial wedge issue that certainly

466
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Speaker 2: the Republicans could use to their benefit. Although I would

467
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 2: say you don't have to politicize this. The scandal is real,

468
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 2: we're all affected by it. But the fact is it's

469
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: a political world in which we live, and so the

470
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 2: question on the table is sort of, is this going

471
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Speaker 2: to continue month after month for a long stretch, remain

472
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: resonate as a key political issue that the average citizen, really,

473
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: whether they're right or left, is going to continue to

474
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 2: be concerned by and is going to maybe go a

475
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 2: long way to determining the next couple of elections, including

476
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Speaker 2: the next gubernatorial race.

477
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Speaker 5: I think it is the key issue at least right now,

478
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 5: and of course it's amplified because of the federal attention

479
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 5: and the attention from the president. Yes, right now, but

480
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 5: it's pretty clear that it's become the political issue as well.

481
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 5: And also it seems like, you know, I was a

482
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Speaker 5: little confounded by Governor Wald's statement on Meet the Press

483
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 5: where he said that when you know, you would think

484
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Speaker 5: that he's ready for this question that's coming on, do

485
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Speaker 5: you take responsibility for this? And his answer was, I

486
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,719
Speaker 5: take responsibility for putting people in jail, And that's kind

487
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 5: of what started the whole thing that led to that

488
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 5: other video that that I put out when he was

489
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Speaker 5: you know, claiming responsibility for putting all these people in jail.

490
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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's pretty clear that the Republicans, you know,

491
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 5: like it as a political issue to be able to

492
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 5: go after Governor Walls, and it's obvious that Governor Walls

493
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Speaker 5: does not like it as an issue at all.

494
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Speaker 2: One other thing, I we had Andy Luger in studio

495
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: just last week and I ran this by him.

496
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Speaker 3: I want to run it by you. I don't remember the.

497
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Speaker 2: Governmental body who allegedly it was employees who worked in

498
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: this department who had in the wake of the New

499
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: York Times story, which was kind of the general set

500
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: the scene story about feed the fraud here, a lot

501
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: of it not new locally, but again perhaps new to

502
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: a Latin national audience. There was the reaction via the

503
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: employees of this particular organization basically saying confirming everything in

504
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 2: the story and saying it's a lot worse than that,

505
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: and we need reporters who go after it. We've had

506
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: individuals threatened tried to come forward and warn about these excesses.

507
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 2: Andy's reaction was, look, we're always good when I was

508
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 2: in the office and now Joe there, We're always going

509
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: to listen to people who want to come forward those

510
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 2: kinds of allegations and then we get to investigate them,

511
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: but that it was all kind of anonymous who was

512
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 2: actually doing this the talking in this this this Twitter storm?

513
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: And is there any there there have you pursued that

514
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: is it worth pursuing or what can you tell us

515
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: about that?

516
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is a Twitter account that is labeled that

517
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 5: it's run by employees of DHS, which is the Department

518
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 5: of Human Services that runs all these programs that have

519
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 5: been you know restricted now at this point, and we

520
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 5: do myself and aj Lego have sources within that. So yes,

521
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 5: there there is something there. I think the thing that

522
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 5: you got to look out for is like they claim

523
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 5: to represent like three hundred employees. There's no way to

524
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 5: verify how many people are behind the account, you know,

525
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 5: stuff like that. But they have given you know, good

526
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 5: tips as far as like things to look into, you know,

527
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 5: ideas for like the questions to ask in the data

528
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 5: practices request to make and so there definitely are sources

529
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 5: within DHS that are helping us guide our reporting to

530
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 5: help ferret out you know, the fraud and any wrongdoing

531
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Speaker 5: that's been done within the department as well.

532
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: Where are you going next. Can you give us a hint.

533
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: Is there another big story coming down or another big

534
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: shoe yet to drop that you are going to reveal

535
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: in the next week or two or three via video?

536
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 5: Well, I have tonight. I have a pretty good story

537
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 5: on CARO eleven at six thirty. Oh, So I heard

538
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 5: you ask Andy Luger about the judge that tossed out

539
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 5: the guilty verdict. Yes, from the jury on the fraud case.

540
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 5: So you know, going back to that state I was

541
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 5: when that broke that story.

542
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 2: By the way, that was a state case, correct, that

543
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: was not a federal case.

544
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, okay, just for.

545
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 5: Certification, and the Attorney General's office has a unit that

546
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 5: looks into these fraud cases and prosecutes them. But it's

547
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 5: the way that these judge rulings. And so my story

548
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 5: tonight will show that that suspect's wife, her case was

549
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 5: tossed out by a judge before it even reached the jury.

550
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 5: Another code off finish case got tossed out. And it

551
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 5: looks to me like there may be if the state

552
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 5: wants to continue pursuing these cases, they may need to

553
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 5: work on some law changes in the next legislature because

554
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 5: there are a lot of issues going on here with

555
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 5: that whole thing. So that that's the thing I'm diving

556
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 5: into tonight. And at this point, you know, I could

557
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 5: barely see into the next week that the news is

558
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 5: coming in so quickly.

559
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 3: It is.

560
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 5: It is.

561
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: It's astonishing, it really is. Also, you got another book

562
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 2: coming out, is that correct?

563
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 5: Yep? In March. It's gonna be called Mastermind. And this

564
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 5: is my second book. The first one is vanished in Vermilion.

565
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 5: This new one, it's a case that happened in Minneapolis.

566
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 5: It was a Minneapolis crime scene investigator named Nikki Lenway

567
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 5: who was off duty and she was going to pick

568
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 5: up her son when she was shot right on the

569
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 5: sidewalk and University Avenue outside of a supervised parenting center.

570
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 5: And then the only suspect, the only person that wants

571
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 5: her dead is her ex, the father of her son,

572
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 5: who has an ironclad and said the building at the

573
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 5: time of the shooting.

574
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 3: Wow, that's that's that's and that's out in March.

575
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 5: You said, yep, they'll come out in March. There was

576
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 5: there was there was a CBS forty eight hours did

577
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 5: a you know, an episode on that case. So it's

578
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 5: it's a There's there's a lot to it, and the

579
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 5: book really kind of unravels, like the controlling relationship, everything

580
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 5: that led up to the shooting, okay, you know really

581
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 5: hasn't been reported at all. And you know, I think

582
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 5: that anyone who's been in a controlling relationship or has

583
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 5: a loved one that has been, there's really a lot

584
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 5: of things that people connect to us.

585
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 2: How do you have how do you have time to

586
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: do this? I don't understand, I mean, how do you?

587
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: I mean is that all you.

588
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: Do is work? You know?

589
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 5: I I coached both my kids basketball teams and spend

590
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 5: a lot of time with my wife as well. I

591
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 5: spread my time out a lot. But yes, the six

592
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 5: and six months or so that I spent writing this book,

593
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 5: I was very busy.

594
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: And is is the book done? It's in the hopper

595
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: just waiting to be released.

596
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, yep, it's uh. I think the final edits

597
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 5: are pretty much done, so it's on the on the

598
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 5: release calendar for the publisher.

599
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: Well, we'll certainly talk to Mark. Yeah for sure.

600
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: Could fiction be next for Low or Goose? Have you

601
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: considered the possible? I mean know, you're a guy who's

602
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: who likes to report on facts as well as you can.

603
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: You know, piece of story. Is it possible, you go,

604
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: let's make it up this time. Let's go fiction.

605
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 5: You know, I would love to. That'd be a new

606
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 5: challenge at this point in my life. Sometimes the truth

607
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 5: is stranger than figuring.

608
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: Well, that's that is a one hundred percent true. Can

609
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: I give you some Can I do a quick fact check?

610
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: Not video but audio?

611
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: Sure?

612
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 4: I mean, we just got to lay these facts out.

613
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 4: So I've gone through the Louver Goose football highlights show

614
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 4: Warrior records set in nineteen ninety nine career receptions, Wow,

615
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 4: career receiving touchdowns, single season receiving touchdowns cut two touchdowns

616
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter with the conference championship on the line.

617
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 4: One of them he's somehow not covered, which is unbelievable.

618
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: The second one he's covered by two people. Didn't matter,

619
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 4: and he brings it in. This is It's impressive. I

620
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 4: tweeted it out. People need to watch it. People need

621
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: to watch it. Thank you getting that open.

622
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 5: Well, we were a strong running team, so that we

623
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 5: were a run first team. And you know, you run

624
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 5: the ball down this throat and all of a sudden,

625
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 5: you know, I'm able to get open. That's kind of

626
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 5: how it works.

627
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 4: Any regrets that when you blocked the one punt you

628
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 4: tried to scoop and score and couldn't. You had to

629
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 4: fall on it on the highlight video. Do you wish

630
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: that you could have? I mean regrets it would have

631
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 4: been another touchdown? You got the ball, it was wore

632
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 4: your ball fresh four, But you got to scoop that

633
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 4: up and score, don't you?

634
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 5: You know that that one? I do remember that one,

635
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 5: and I just couldn't believe that I couldn't get the

636
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 5: ball in my hands, And so, yeah, I regret that one.

637
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 5: Did you also see the one that where I sent

638
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 5: the punter.

639
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: Flying on the I couldn't miss it five times in

640
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 4: super slow motion?

641
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't miss it, of course. Yeah, it's a

642
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: great video, and.

643
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 5: That would I was afraid that I had a roughing

644
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 5: the punter call. You know, I kind of let up

645
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 5: even on that a little bit.

646
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: Now would you classify yourself? Were you also a well

647
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: rounded receiver? Were you a good blocking tight end as well?

648
00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: Are were you just.

649
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 5: One of those things? I was blocked first. I had

650
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 5: to plock the star middle linebacker on every single running play.

651
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 5: And then then on third and long be asked to

652
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: run a twenty yard route.

653
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: That's it, man, thankless. The video is so nineties.

654
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 4: It's just the best I feel seen with your highlight

655
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 4: video because it's so perfect for the times, given that

656
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: we were about a year apart in high school.

657
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Speaker 3: It is so perfect for the times.

658
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Speaker 5: We appreciate the time pads are huge back then.

659
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Speaker 2: Oh god, unbelievable. It's like like a different era completely. Well,

660
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: we'll be watching tonight if we can. Otherwise, we'll keep

661
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: in touch. We appreciate the update on a number of

662
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: those stories, and keep the reporting going and we'll be

663
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: in touch.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, all right, thanks Louk.

665
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: Guys, I appreciate if that is a Lure Goose real name,

666
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: not a stage name.

667
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: It's a brilliant TV name as far as I'm concerned.

668
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: It virtually cannot be mispronounced, I don't think, and it

669
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: rolls off the tongue.

670
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Speaker 3: It's dramatic.

671
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Speaker 2: Now the live report from the state Capitol, Loure Goose,

672
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Speaker 2: Oh are you kidding me? It's just it's just too good,

673
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Speaker 2: Brett John Brian caffe In text line is on fire

674
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Speaker 2: right now. Six four six eighty six will include some

675
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Speaker 2: texts from the audience.

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00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: I've got a couple of other stories. I want to

677
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Speaker 3: get to.

678
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: One of them from the A section literally the A

679
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: section of the New York Times that broke over the

680
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: weekend and is a not so gentle reminder. And this

681
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: really annoys the lefties occasionally who listen to this show.

682
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: Why I continue to be as angry with them the Democrats,

683
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: as I am with Donald J. Trump, because I think

684
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Speaker 2: one had very much to do with the reascension of

685
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Speaker 2: the other. Stay tuned for that and more. When we

686
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: were there are several stories I need some help on.

687
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: Several of these are local and origin, and I don't

688
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: know that we need to spend a great deal of

689
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: time on any of them, but I think they're worthy

690
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: of discussion. You're familiar with mcpheely from the Dakotas time

691
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: Mike McFeeley became a media game.

692
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

693
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Speaker 2: I'm just going to read his tweet. I think this

694
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: was from yesterday. It might have been the day before.

695
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: Illinois State through five interceptions, including a pick six, allowed

696
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Speaker 2: a punt return for a touchdown, and gave up a

697
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 2: seventy eight yard touchdown pass on nbsu's first play from

698
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Speaker 2: scrimmage and one.

699
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we probably haven't talked enough about this game.

700
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: No, we haven't, and somebody I need an NDSU fan

701
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: to explain exactly how all those things could happen. And

702
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: you don't win when your opponent throws five interceptions including

703
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: a pick six, allows a punt return for a touchdown,

704
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: gives up a seventy eight yard touchdown pass, and ndsus

705
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: first lay scrimmage and you still can't win the game.

706
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Speaker 3: That's number one. Number two, I need help on.

707
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: Entertaining game with Tartan Boys beating Hopkins by ten points

708
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Speaker 2: in the second half before a fight broke out among

709
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Speaker 2: fans to force the game to end with just over

710
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Speaker 2: nine minutes left.

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Speaker 3: That was via Strip Varsity.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard some stuff about this that has not

713
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 4: been verified yet, so not a good scene again, stuff

714
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Speaker 4: that you would describe as troubling.

715
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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, because the whole thing's are rather troubling.

716
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Speaker 2: And I think this is the second straight year there's

717
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: been enough of an incident where a game had to

718
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Speaker 2: either be interrupted or stopped.

719
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Speaker 4: Correct Well, No, the game between wise Thata and Hopkins

720
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 4: last year finished. We talked about the coaches acted by

721
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Speaker 4: complete mores on both sides.

722
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Speaker 3: That's it too.

723
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 4: This one had more to do with the fans and

724
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 4: the crowd and the kids.

725
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Speaker 2: Embarrassing absolutely, yeah, not good, embarrassing, so so and.

726
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 3: So what's the pun Is there? A punishment?

727
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 5: Is there?

728
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 3: We're not gonna let fans watch our games from this point.

729
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Speaker 3: F I don't know.

730
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Speaker 4: I haven't heard anything, Hopkins says, the game to night.

731
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Speaker 4: See how that goes. I've finish it.

732
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Speaker 2: He just shake your head. Here's the third item. I'm

733
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: familiar with Ram Emmanuel. He was Obama's one of Obama's

734
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: big advisors. He's your next president, and he might be.

735
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: He also was mayor of the city of Chicago. If

736
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, he's taken a significant leap.

737
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Speaker 3: And I think this was today.

738
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Speaker 2: I'll just read it to you and see if you

739
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: think it's plausible politically viable, because those are two different things,

740
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 2: but both worthy of discussion. When it comes to our adolescens,

741
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: it's either going to be adults or the algorithms that

742
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: raise our kids. No child under the age of sixteen

743
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: should have access to social media. TikTok, insta, Snapchat and

744
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: others are too powerful, too addictive. Too alluring and too

745
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: often our young kids. Parents cannot fight big tech alone.

746
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: Sensible regulations cut teen smoking and band phones, and classrooms

747
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: to boost academic and social development. We've proven that smart

748
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: steps are effective. The time for debate and discussion is over.

749
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: It is time to protect our kids and strengthen our families.

750
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: So I agree with all of it. I'm just I'm

751
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 2: asking the obvious question that many others are asking. Is

752
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: it practical, given the ways that folks can get access

753
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 2: to social media? Is it practical right to keep those

754
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: those items out of individuals' hands. And I'm curious to

755
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: get reaction from people politically on whether this is a.

756
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: This is a good step, because I think.

757
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: He's the first, you know, candidate or potential candidate who

758
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: is going this public with this visceral and approach. Now

759
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: I'm assuming he'll be asked the obvio is the practicalities

760
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: of it and so forth? Then you can argue that

761
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: it means nothing. The words are flowery, but mean nothing

762
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: if you can't, you know, match them up, and is

763
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 2: it practical to match them up with actual to actually

764
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: keep kids off of these items? I don't know, but

765
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Speaker 2: I did think it was interesting. Jake Tapper brought it

766
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: to my attention. You'r a guy from CNN First Potential

767
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight or to embrace a social media ban

768
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Speaker 2: for children.

769
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Speaker 3: I love it all. I don't know how realistic it is.

770
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: I don't either. That's kind of the way I look

771
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: at it as well.

772
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Speaker 2: You said lem Mandela Guy writes, you said lou Ar

773
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Speaker 2: Goose's name basically cannot be mispronounced. I have a good

774
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: test for that theory. Put it in the middle of

775
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: a paragraph and have Meat Sauce cold read it. Wow,

776
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Speaker 2: I think Sauce could get it. Yeah, I think he

777
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: probably could. I did tell he might say Ragosi. No,

778
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Speaker 2: I think he now he might.

779
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Speaker 5: He might.

780
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Speaker 3: He might misspell it in a tweet that they would

781
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Speaker 3: come back to.

782
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 4: That's I did tell lou Rigruss about speaking of Meat

783
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 4: Sauce Sausa's high school football highlight video that we also

784
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: uncovered a few years back, where he appears in the

785
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: first game and a half as an offensive lineman and

786
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 4: then gets bench for the rest of the year.

787
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 3: Is that right? Yeah? It was a tough scene. Was

788
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: it humiliating for him?

789
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 4: Not any more so than anything else we bring up

790
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: or they bring up on the show. I think he

791
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 4: he thinks it's funny. I think he understood kind of

792
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 4: his place. He still does not have great things to

793
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: say about the offensive coordinator on that team.

794
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 3: I'm sure that's true.

795
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: So nine to five to two Guy Australia is implementing

796
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Speaker 2: a similar band starting tomorrow. That's from Lloyd in Long Lake.

797
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: Is that true? I don't know. But if they can

798
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: like they.

799
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Speaker 3: Have, it's worth. It's worth. It's worth.

800
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Speaker 2: At least seeing how it goes there, right, Yes, how

801
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: successful they are? Ellinois Dana from Fargo Dan Allois State

802
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: also had a fumble give up a power TURNTD. The

803
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: problem was NDSU's offense only showed up for the first play.

804
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: Non existent after that. Uh, Chad from the Ville Louisville.

805
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: I wonder if he means that Ville Albertville.

806
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Speaker 3: I don't know. Is there an area code.

807
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 4: Three two l So's It's kind of not Louisville, Kentuckysville,

808
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 4: the Holiday Lights and Duluth.

809
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: Is lou on the insta. Not trying to be creepy,

810
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: but I need more Regoose than just X. He's fantastic.

811
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: Is Regoose on the Insta.

812
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

813
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 4: I'll look, I've got install pull it up. It's I

814
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: need more regoose something?

815
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: What what?

816
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: What INSTA related came up earlier today? Didn't we talk

817
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 2: about something INSTA related? I thought, maybe.

818
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 3: It's probably it's a long show. It is always tough.

819
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 4: When someone asked me what we talked about, and I said,

820
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 4: you're gonna have that podcast sometimes, you know, if Blake

821
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 4: Moore is doing the if you have to leave early

822
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: and he's doing the podcast, he comes in, yes, and

823
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 4: he asked me, and it's hard for me to remember.

824
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 4: He asked me too on the way out, and I

825
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 4: usually say just listen.

826
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, just so, just do the best you can with

827
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: it and see what you can come up with. Yeah,

828
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: here's a more confirmation about Australia. By the way, a

829
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 2: lot of good nominations for the first Nonomie of the

830
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: winter season, which we will name tomorrow. Keep those coming

831
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: for sure. A follow up from yesterday. Also, the Ageless

832
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: Wonder quarterback has indeed signed for the practice squad of

833
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: the Baltimore or the Baltimore Indianapolis Culture Philip Philip Rivers, Now,

834
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: what does that mean? Does that mean it's definitely for

835
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: me to believe he's interested in finishing finishing the season

836
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Speaker 2: on the practice squad.

837
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: Is this like just the first step towards.

838
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: Actually making him a functioning quarterback for the Colts. You

839
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, It's just I do It's I

840
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: don't think he wants to Just okay, I'll hang out

841
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: and you know I'll be your scout team quarterback on

842
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: the practice squad right.

843
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: As Stephen Holder from ESPN rights, this positions him to

844
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 4: be an option to play in play some third string

845
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 4: quarterback Riley Leonard who's sustained knee injury while we're leaving

846
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones.

847
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 3: So he's an option.

848
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it remains to be seeing what River's immediate role

849
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 4: will be now tomorrow because today's Tuesday, right, so most

850
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 4: yes teams are off. I would imagine tomorrow that Shane

851
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 4: Steichen will address it because that's when everybody meets the

852
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 4: media again on Wednesday. So we'll see. Leonard has a knee,

853
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,959
Speaker 4: a strained knee ligament. He's considered weak to week week

854
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 4: to week. Yeah, okay, so we'll see. Makes some sense.

855
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 4: According to sources, rivers workout was impressive. He threw the

856
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 4: ball well, but needs to improve his condition. Yeah, he's fifty,

857
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: that makes sense, literally a grandfather.

858
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: Is he one of those? Because I don't.

859
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: He doesn't strike me as all those guys who's constantly

860
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: kept himself in shape just on the possibility.

861
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: That he's going to be an NFL quarterback again.

862
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 4: I do want to see the sideline shot to see

863
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: what his BMI is at.

864
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: A couple of people.

865
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Speaker 2: Going back far enough, were responding to our conversation with

866
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Speaker 2: Sam Mitchell that had you offended for sure.

867
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Speaker 4: Doesn't look like Graose has insta by the way, he

868
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 4: does not. Doesn't look well, that's only a matter of

869
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 4: time it should be. I love Sam, but he's dead

870
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: wrong about Rudy. Anyone who's watched the Wolves this year

871
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 4: could tell you that that go Beart is playing extremely well.

872
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 4: He's altering shots, running the floor, and by doing so,

873
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 4: is constantly making himself available for easy baskets of the rim.

874
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: Last night was standing his inside playing offenses contributed a

875
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 4: lot of good looks from mid to long range. Yeah,

876
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: you had more problem I think with the general disposition

877
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 4: of Sam and the state of the team. I would

878
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 4: disagree with Sam on Rudy because and look again, in

879
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 4: a perfect world. Is he making less money, Yes, but

880
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: he's already taken one pay cut, and again I think

881
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 4: he's it's the low hanging fruit with Rudy when you

882
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 4: see a highlight highlight or of you know, one of

883
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 4: those viral shots of him fumbling a ball into the basket, yep,

884
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,479
Speaker 4: and you go, what are we doing with this guy?

885
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: But that leaves out all the other things he does.

886
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: In fact, somebody had the analytic the other day that

887
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: on isolations, Alan Horton had it was I was going

888
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: to bring it up that that he's the number one

889
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: defensive player in the league. Nobody is scoring on scoring

890
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: on that way, I don't think you know, now, is

891
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: there a yin and yang to it? Yes, because even

892
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: though I think he's shown better proclivities offensively, he's still

893
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: not a great Their offensive numbers are not great with

894
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: him on the court. Sure, you got to balance all

895
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: those things out. But here's the other one.

896
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: That's the thing. I feel like, Yeah, I thought we were,

897
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: but maybe we're not.

898
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 2: Regarding the Nikhil Alexander Walker discussion. And I do remember

899
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: Sam bringing this up, and it may have been off air.

900
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: I thought it was on air last year. When we

901
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: were trying to figure out, okay, could you reconfigure? And

902
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: he said, well, is anybody thinking about nikiel? I ran

903
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: it by a couple people, including Johnny. I don't think

904
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: Johnny thought it was a great idea. I'm not here

905
00:43:54,120 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 2: to say it's fool proof. But part of the reason

906
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 2: I think there's this sort of second look at everything

907
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: after the fact is because it's like we've always said,

908
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: if JJ McCarthy had been good from the game of

909
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: the season, nobody would be talking about Sam Darnald, Nobody

910
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: talking about Daniel Jones, nobody's.

911
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: Talking about Aaron Rodgers. It's the same here.

912
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: If the other answers were showing some signs of being

913
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: the players that the Wolves hoped they were going to

914
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: be at the point guard position, then it would seem

915
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: foolish to bring up Nikkeil and say, well, you can't

916
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: keep everybody but six or five to one. Guy throws

917
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 2: this in, and it's worth at least mentioning naw deserves

918
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: the same treatment we give Sam Darnald. He was great

919
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: first during the regular season, but if we all forgotten

920
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: the countless miss shots in the playoffs, he couldn't hit

921
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: on anything with the exception of one game in last

922
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: year's run, he did have he was a streaky shooter.

923
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: Now I want to check his numbers this year if

924
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: he's been less streaky, because it certainly looks to me

925
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: like he has become his minutes have become a lot steadier,

926
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: and he playing a lot more. And that's always the

927
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: age old question. If you play a guy certain number

928
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: of minutes, it's is it you're doing that because you're

929
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: convinced if you play the more minutes, you're going to

930
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: start seeing more of his fortes and his limitations. Or

931
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: is it that, in fact, he's got another gear in him,

932
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: if he's just given the opportunity to take that job.

933
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. I always liked him as a player.

934
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: I will tell you there were stretches in the postseason

935
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: where he said, oh my god, you got to hit

936
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 2: a shot.

937
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 5: Man.

938
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 2: We're doing But if we started eliminating every Wolves player

939
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: that miss shots at key moments, we wouldn't be with

940
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: There would not be very many players left.

941
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think he was alone in that. No,

942
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: he was not.

943
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: And he has handled the opportunity with the injury. Who's

944
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: the main guard that got hurt, that Tray and Trey Young.

945
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: He's handled that opportunity where basically they said, okay, it's

946
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: your job.

947
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: He's done very well. He's been great. There's no question

948
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: about that.

949
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 4: He was their most consistent player the first few months

950
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: of the season last year, when other guys were scuffling

951
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 4: and they were trying to figure out the Randall piece.

952
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: He was very, very consistent.

953
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: Twins missed the jackpot guarantee us, you're not a robot.

954
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: Kessei hits the pot. Twins in twenty to thirty five,

955
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: Twins in twenty thirty five.

956
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: Get it. That's ten years from now. Hang on, I

957
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 3: gotta get to my laugh. Twins thirty five.

958
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 5: Uh.

959
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: One of our hockey experts is saying that on was

960
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: it Zuki who got hit?

961
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

962
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: Describe here as a clean hit, shoulder only head up

963
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: or nut up?

964
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: Oh, we're back to nut up. Apparently we are. I didn't.

965
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 4: I have not seen the play. What do we think

966
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 4: is a dirty I mean, by the letter of the law,

967
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 4: probably not. Yeah, but it was a tough one. It

968
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 4: was a tough one.

969
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 3: I'll ask you this question.

970
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: If one of our guys delivered that hit, jail Oh,

971
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: what would we say?

972
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,479
Speaker 3: Would we say head up or up? Sorry?

973
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: Head up or nut up? Yes, that's all I'm asking.

974
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know who give us the final answer?

975
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: Louie tomorrow, because I'm sure he has seen it and

976
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 2: studied it several times. He's going to join on Wednesday.

977
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: He's a Tuesday regular. Back with one other a section

978
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: item the jets of the political aisle. The Dems from

979
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: time to time have expressed a great deal of outrage

980
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: with me regarding my I guess stubbornness regarding I guess,

981
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: I guess I'd say a lot of the anger I

982
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: have about where we are politically, and they're saying to me, well,

983
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: why are you mad at us? You should be mad

984
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: at the people who are in office. And my answer

985
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: to that is, but this significance screw up goes a

986
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 2: long way to explaining towards explaining why this administration got

987
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: a second shot at the deal. And the latest example

988
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 2: of that point laid out nicely in a New York

989
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: Times story that's getting some attention that I think fell

990
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: Sunday headlined how Biden ignored warnings and lost Americans faith

991
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: in immigration sub headline, the Democratic President and his top

992
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: advisors rejected recommendations that could have eased the border crisis

993
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 2: that helped return Donald Trump to the White House. And

994
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: a lot of this has been explored before, but there's

995
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: a lot of good reporting in this story that I

996
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: think drills down even deeper than previously written by Christopher Flavelle.

997
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: In the weeks after Biden Joseph R. Biden Junior was

998
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 2: elected president, advisers delivered a warning his approach to immigration

999
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: could prove disastrous. Mister Biden had pledged to treat unauthorized

1000
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 2: immigrants more humanely than President Donald J. Trump, who generated

1001
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 2: widespread backlash by separating migrant children from their parents. Mister

1002
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: Biden was now president elect, and his positions threatened to

1003
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: drastically increase border crossings, Experts advising his transition team warned

1004
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: in a zoom briefing in the final weeks of twenty twenty.

1005
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 2: According to people with direct knowledge of that briefing, that jump,

1006
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: they said, could provoke a political crisis. Chaos was the

1007
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: word the advisors had used in a memo during the campaign.

1008
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: They offered a range of options to avert the crisis

1009
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 2: by better deterring the migrants mister Biden seemed to grasp

1010
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: the risk, but he and his top eights failed to

1011
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: act on these regulations. They estimated the scale according to

1012
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: former administrations, just say Biden administration officials, they underestimated the

1013
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: scale of migration that was coming, and they failed to

1014
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: appreciate the political reaction to that migration, believing that stronger

1015
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: enforcement would alienate Latino and progressive voters and also that

1016
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: the border surge would not be an important issue to

1017
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: most voters.

1018
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 3: Here's the key quote.

1019
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: This is from Cecilia Munos, who helps shape immigration policy

1020
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 2: in the Obama administration and oversaw domestic and economic policy

1021
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: for the Biden transition team. Everybody who was reacting to

1022
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: the excesses of the Trump administration, it has become or

1023
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: in this case, it became more important to be the

1024
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: not Trump president, as somebody put it on X than

1025
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: with enforcing US laws. And politically, I think this now

1026
00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: has become our biggest enemy, the reaction to whatever it

1027
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: can't come.

1028
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 3: Before, so that the new goal is.

1029
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 2: I've got to get one hundred and eighty degrees away

1030
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: from what that guy did, as opposed to just doing

1031
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: what you should do.

1032
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 3: That becomes the mantra.

1033
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: And that kind of thinking is what I think largely

1034
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: paralyzed the Biden administration. Why they were blinded to certainly

1035
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: the political ramifications of ignoring the border, as long as

1036
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: they did not to mention it's not good, it's not

1037
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 2: even sane national policy, as a number of Obama Democrats,

1038
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: when they had a chance, tended to say, and we

1039
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: get it later.

1040
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 3: There was a plan, and then Donald J.

1041
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: Trump said, don't go for it because I want this

1042
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: to be an issue. That was a lot later through

1043
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 2: this thing, and it festered much longer than it had to.

1044
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 2: And the story again, it doesn't I guess you'd say,

1045
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: it doesn't break new ground, but it does confirm that issue,

1046
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: which we talked about extensively, as you know during much

1047
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 2: of the Biden administration, that the policy on immigration was disastrous,

1048
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 2: it was not even logical. But if your only aim

1049
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: is I gotta go one hundred and eighty degrees away

1050
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 2: from what that guy did, that becomes your mantra as

1051
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 2: opposed to, how about a sensible policy that reverses some

1052
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: of what Donald J. Trump had gone for but doesn't

1053
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 2: throw out the baby with the bathwater. But that's and

1054
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: that's what I fear moving forward if in the next

1055
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: presidential election the Jets are back in, will they fall

1056
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: into that same trap, Will they do the right thing,

1057
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: or will it be I gotta we gotta undo everything

1058
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: that that guy did. I'm going to become so obsessed

1059
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: with that, not knowing that if I do that, there's

1060
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 2: going to be some unintended consequences that are not necessarily

1061
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: good for the country and perhaps not even very good

1062
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: for my long term political aspirations as well. That's that's

1063
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: I mean that quote to me from the as I

1064
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: said a former per Obama administrator, everybody was reacting to

1065
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 2: the excesses of the Trump administration. If that's all you're

1066
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: worried about, then you got a problem because there's not

1067
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 2: any quote. Every every legitimate poll, I think has laid

1068
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: out the significance of that issue. The immigration issue at

1069
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: the border now I'm not talking about the round ups. Now,

1070
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: I'm talking about at the border. We've we're on the

1071
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: record on the nonsense going on around the country regarding

1072
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 2: these roundups.

1073
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: But we're back to again.

1074
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: One mistake ends up almost ensuring or one blind spot

1075
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 2: ends up ensuring that you're not going to be able

1076
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: to stay in office, or that. In this case, the

1077
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 2: Democrats are not going to stay in office because people

1078
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: are going to say, well, wait a minute, what Trump

1079
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 2: did first first time around. I may disagree with this,

1080
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 2: this or this, but when the numbers are astronomically bigger

1081
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: than during any other recent administration, it's almost come on

1082
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 2: in whatever you want to do as much as many

1083
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: if you want to, because by God, we believe in

1084
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: in immigrants, and we're not going to treat immigrants the

1085
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: same way that Trump did. That sounds good in theory,

1086
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: but only if you have the systems in place to

1087
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: withstand or to handle the number of individuals who then

1088
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 2: at that point said we're on a we're going We're

1089
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: just going to.

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Speaker 3: Go because we have that's our protection.

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Speaker 2: Is all they're caring about in that administration is undoing

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Speaker 2: what the previous guy did, matter the cost. So the story,

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Speaker 2: I think very effectively laid that out. And that's why

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Speaker 2: I still have frustration with the people who aren't in

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Speaker 2: power now, because I think that step has a lot

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Speaker 2: to do with why the person in power right now

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Speaker 2: got that power back for the second time. And that's

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Speaker 2: sort of where we are. Let's come back with a

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Speaker 2: date in history that was actually December seven. Not Pearl

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Speaker 2: Harbor related, but related to another story that in the

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Speaker 2: sports sense, governs our lives like perhaps very little other events.

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Speaker 2: And this the first time this took place, apparently was

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Speaker 2: on the date of December seven. We'll give you details

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Speaker 2: as we wrap up the show.

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Speaker 4: Show Rap presented by American Pressure Commercial grade Pressure Washers

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Speaker 4: since nineteen seventy five.

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Speaker 3: It's the Bumper to Bumper Show Rap Your Guy. Show.

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Speaker 2: Hey Otani has won the Associated Press Male Athlete of

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Speaker 2: the Year award for the fourth time, breaking a tie

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Speaker 2: with none other than Michael Jordan. He now ties Lance Armstrong,

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00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: Lebron James, and Tiger Woods for most wins all time

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Speaker 2: among male honorees. We're seeing history, boys and girls. We

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00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 2: don't realize it because it's happening right in front of us.

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Speaker 2: Ain't gonna be another one that comes along, another athlete

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Speaker 2: quite like Show Hey Otani. By the way, the Dodgers

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00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 2: just signed on what was the name of the closer

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00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: three years. I think he got three years eighty million

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Speaker 2: for them. That course, that's chump change.

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Speaker 3: Three years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did they even expect him to play eighty million? Dollars.

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Speaker 2: One other item from the New York Times piece regarding

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Speaker 2: the degree to which the Biden White House screwed up

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Speaker 2: the immigration issue. This is a quote from Scott shoe Chart,

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Speaker 2: who joined the administration in twenty twenty two as a

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Speaker 2: senior advisor at Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The Biden White

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Speaker 2: House quote had no strategy because they had no goal.

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Speaker 2: All they had was wishing the problem would go away

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Speaker 2: so they could focus on the things they cared about.

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Speaker 2: That's from within the administration, Boys and girls, what us

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Speaker 2: screw up now?

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Speaker 3: And look what we're left with. But I digress.

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Speaker 2: December seventh, that's yesterday, right, No tesso days ago, now Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Today's the ninth. This is Coach Barrero's birthday today, Happy birthday, birthday,

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Speaker 2: Coach Philly. December seventh, nineteen sixty three. With the assistance

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Speaker 2: of a videotape recorder, Instant Replay made its US debut

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Speaker 2: replaying an Army touchdown during the US or do I

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00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: should say, during the Army Navy game on CBS Now.

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Speaker 2: I think they're saying there, not that it was there

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Speaker 2: was anything reviewable at that point. They're just saying the

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Speaker 2: concept of Hey, you want to see that play again?

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Speaker 2: Did you see that catch that apparently was the first

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Speaker 2: time instant replay was used year on National TV nineteen

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Speaker 2: sixty three.

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Speaker 4: And we're still working through the kinks. We're still working

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Speaker 4: it out. We are sad, but true.

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Speaker 2: Programming update tonight a Vikings programming change.

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Speaker 3: Is that correct?

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00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 4: No Vikings country tonight because of the nonami Okay, so

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Speaker 4: we will bump up Vikings x's and o's with Kevin O'Connor.

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Speaker 2: Well, we quoted from it a great comment from the

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00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: head coach basically channeling the bumper to bumper show on

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Speaker 2: the JJ McCarthy effort to mythologize himself with you know,

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00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: alter egos and all that stuff, and it's nine. It's

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Speaker 2: pretty frontal. Even if he qualifies a bit, that'll be

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Speaker 2: a part of the conversation where for the first time

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Speaker 2: it feels if it sounds like the head coach is saying,

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Speaker 2: we don't you know, come on, we don't need let's

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Speaker 2: just go play, let's just get get get better, and

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Speaker 2: we'll let the jackals mythologize. After you have a solid

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Speaker 2: body of work that extends through not weeks, but months

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Speaker 2: and perhaps.

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Speaker 3: Even years, dare we say years? Years?

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Speaker 5: Is?

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Speaker 3: What is the ideal?

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Speaker 2: I think I want to thank our outstanding array of

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Speaker 2: guests tonight. Kevin Seaffert joined at three point thirty, Sam

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Speaker 2: Mitchell at four thirty, and lou Were Goose at five

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Speaker 2: point fifteen. If you'd like to podcast the program later,

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Speaker 2: that will be the times for those three guests.

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Speaker 3: We'll need SOMI nominations for tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Some have come in that I'm already holding on to

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Speaker 2: a good start, but we can continue to get those overnight,

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Speaker 2: we hope, and we will name the first NONMI. I

1174
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: think we're going to have enough, if not already, I'm

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Speaker 2: told the roads are not in very good shape right now.

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Speaker 2: Because Louis could go today, he will be with us tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We'll get his idea on the Zucarello hit and other

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Speaker 2: hockey related items and maybe even the state of the

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Speaker 2: hockey rink at the Winter Olympics in Italy, Italia. In addition,

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Speaker 2: Mason your Face is scheduled to return if he can

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Speaker 2: get in despite the.

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Speaker 3: NONAMI, but she'll be here.

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Speaker 2: He probably know snowing and special k Pat Kesser. Did

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Speaker 2: he storm the court during the Gophers men's basketball victory

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Speaker 2: over Indiana.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he stormed it, but he did tell

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Speaker 4: me he thinks we should storm it every game, every

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Speaker 4: just every game lose or just winning win. Nico actually

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Speaker 4: said on the Coaches Show that they actually started to

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Speaker 4: do that at Colorado State every single victory and it

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Speaker 4: wasn't so much a storm. It was just, hey, come out,

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Speaker 4: he's going to wander out here.

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Speaker 3: Come out and.

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Speaker 4: Give high fives to the guys. He said, it's supposed

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Speaker 4: to be fun. We're begging people to come to games. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're not begging. They were obviously good, but we asked

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Speaker 4: me to come to games. Smoke him if you got him.

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Speaker 4: That's a different way to look at it.

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Speaker 3: It's just a tradition. It's a meet and greet basically, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations finally to our guy, Rocco Baldelli.

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Speaker 3: He is back in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 2: I think he signed as like one of those special

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Speaker 2: consultants four guests who the Los Angeles Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: Now that's a good gig, it really is. You can't

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Speaker 3: go wrong.

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Speaker 2: Fixing yourself, connecting yourself with the Los Angeles Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: Of animal, you know what.

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Speaker 4: You do as a consultant. You know what you say,

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Speaker 4: as a consultant for the Dodgers. Keep it up, fellas

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Speaker 4: it keep it up.

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Speaker 2: And they'll keep paying it because they got so much money.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter different. I could see him liking La.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if does magic is magic Johnson's signature on

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Speaker 2: those payroll checks. Well, you have to text Roco find

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Speaker 2: out tomorrow. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Three