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Speaker 2: We no longer need the validation of not the museum itself,

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Speaker 2: The game itself last night, you see loses to West Virginia.

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Speaker 8: What allowed the Mountaineers to pull this game out in

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Speaker 9: I'm giving every part of my soul to this thing,

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Speaker 2: that has obviously gone extraordinarily poorly. There's there's no getting

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean there's all sorts of different props. That

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Speaker 12: the stuff that's you know common, the over underpassing yards,

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Speaker 12: that kind of stuff. I mean, that's that's the easy

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Speaker 13: I mean there's a ton of them, absolutely, but.

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Speaker 12: Those are stats driven. We have the data all year,

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Speaker 12: so easy. Again, Ted has put them all up, but

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Speaker 12: you know it's all based on the statistics and whatnot.

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Speaker 12: Then for the original stuff, the unique stuff, right yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 12: mean that's we kind of have a blueprint. There might

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Speaker 12: But then there's the stuff that's unique every year. So

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Speaker 12: show immediately we're starting to research bad Bunny, what he does,

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Speaker 12: what he wears, and of course stories pop up, you know,

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Speaker 12: like a controversy. Oh my god, he's gonna wear a dress. Well,

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Speaker 12: we need a prop on that. Oh my god, he

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Speaker 12: doesn't like ice and Trump. Oh my, so we need

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Speaker 12: a prop on that. Right, national anthem singer gets announced, and.

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Speaker 14: We immediately go to YouTube and see.

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Speaker 11: What the.

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Speaker 12: If he's ever done this a national anthem before? And

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Speaker 12: and if he does, we use that to make the odds.

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Speaker 14: Unfore sheate this guy.

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Speaker 12: There's there's nothing really out there, so we kind of

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Speaker 12: go on that blind. But yeah, then it's just about

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Speaker 12: you know, seeing all the different storylines and coming up

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Speaker 12: with unique stuff. Some stuff is crazy, some stuff is

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Speaker 12: on the table. Here.

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Speaker 2: Give me in terms of actual game related props. Props

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Speaker 2: related to the actual football game, what are some of

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Speaker 2: your favorites?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean as far as the betting wise or

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Speaker 12: can tell you what Sharps took. I mean, Sharps love

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Speaker 12: nine lines as much mean keeping may and nods, but they.

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Speaker 11: Feast on the plops.

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Speaker 12: I mean, let's see May under two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 12: five and a half passing yards. I got Bet under

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Speaker 12: thirty six and a half rushing yards. I got bet

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Speaker 12: Donald complete first attent minus two twenty five Hunter Henry

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Speaker 12: over three and a half that got pounded over at

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Speaker 12: three and a half receptions minus one twenty five. Actually

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Speaker 12: Blue Gatoray got hit early six to one. That got

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Speaker 12: steamed in. So that you know, the sharps even bet

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Speaker 12: stuff like that and they see there's an edge.

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Speaker 2: How much how much line movement at all has there

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Speaker 2: been with this game this week?

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Speaker 12: Well, we opened minus four, We opened Seahawks minus four,

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Speaker 12: got bet got moved to four and a half pretty quick.

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Speaker 12: Sharps took advantage of that four. And then last week,

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Speaker 12: I think about seven days ago this time last week,

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Speaker 12: we went up to five and stayed at five. Like

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Speaker 12: I said, some sharp backs in early on four, a

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Speaker 12: little bit on four and a half two. But the

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Speaker 12: public's on the Seahawks two. So the sharps and public

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Speaker 12: are aligned right now. I think about sixty percent of

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Speaker 12: the cast and sixty one percent of money. Are our

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Speaker 12: betters are on the Seattle Seahawks again laying five?

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Speaker 2: Dave Mason is with us from bet Online sportsbook brand

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Speaker 2: new where you can make wagers based on things that

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Speaker 2: Is there anything there if it sticks out? Like, can

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Speaker 2: I bet on whether there's going to be a Chris

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Speaker 2: collins Worth slide?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 12: Of course that's that's there, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 9: That's there.

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Speaker 12: I think it's minus eight hundred pretty big favorite. But yeah,

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Speaker 12: there's all sorts of stuff there. I mean, the they

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Speaker 12: we started these number of years back and they're always popular.

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Speaker 12: Which song will be sunk first by the crowd? Sweet

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Speaker 12: Carolina Country Roads? What will they show first? Golden Gate

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Speaker 12: Bridge or Alcatraz Alcatraz Island? You know, fans, fans are

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Speaker 12: always big celebrities in the in the in the stand,

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Speaker 12: So which which which Patriots celebrity fan will be shown first? Wahlberg, Flack,

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Speaker 12: Matt Damon, John bon Jovi, et cetera. Which Seahawks fan

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Speaker 12: will be shown first? Richard, Richard Sherman and Chris Pratt

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Speaker 12: will Ferrell, Ring, Wilson, et cetera. So so you there's

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Speaker 12: there's just so many props, you know, every every minute

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Speaker 12: we're grading something during the game.

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Speaker 2: now five and zero in arbitration cases, which makes me smile.

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Speaker 2: I guess Tyler Stevenson's is going to be heard on Monday,

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Speaker 2: which is the day that pitchers and catchers report. Ashcraft

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Speaker 2: will make one point seventy five million dollars this year.

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Speaker 2: The Reds offered one point twenty five. Good for I

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Speaker 2: root for the players in arbitration cases. Sorry. Remember Ben

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Speaker 2: Rtvett was a catcher for the Dodgers who actually played

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Speaker 2: him loose. Well, he has been claimed by the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: Kind of a weird offseason for Ben. Win the World Series,

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Speaker 2: get cut, go to the Reds. Never play for him,

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Speaker 2: go back to the Dodgers. College basketball a busy weekend ahead.

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Speaker 2: Starting tonight, the Dayton Flyers take on VCU. That game

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Speaker 2: tips off at seven pm. There's a ton of great

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Speaker 2: which will be a lot of fun. Tomorrow, Miami tries

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Speaker 2: to stay unbeaten. The RedHawks battle Marshall in Why am

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Speaker 2: I absolutely Huntington. I wanted to say Hunterton for someone

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Speaker 2: I was totally blanking on this city that Marshall is in.

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Speaker 2: That game is going to be at four o'clock tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: also tomorrow, Indiana. It takes on for a second, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I've been there. Well, it starts with an H and

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Speaker 2: then it staid. For some reason, the name Hunterton was

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Speaker 2: my apologies. If you like Marshall, if you went to Marshall,

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Speaker 2: that game is tomorrow at four o'clock in Huntington, NKU

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. Ohio State battles Michigan, trying to beat the

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Speaker 2: when the Musketeers take on Saint John's at MSG hockey. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: The question I think has become now like, what do

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Speaker 2: is Sal Stewart to be NLMVP plus eight hundred. The

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Speaker 2: He's Sal Stewart's primary competition now. JJ Weatherholt also has

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Speaker 2: is like the shortstop of the future Pirates. Fans want

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Speaker 2: to see him now on opening Day, nineteen years old.

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Speaker 2: Don't know if he's going to start the season on

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Speaker 2: him being on the opening day roster with a lineup

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Speaker 2: that might be better, might be more capable of offering protection.

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Speaker 2: Can Sal Stewart hit twenty five home runs? Had five

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Speaker 2: in a month last year? Can he had twenty five

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Speaker 2: home runs playing a GABP If the answer is yes,

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Speaker 2: house plus eight hundred not insane value. More on that

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Speaker 2: coming up a little bit later. On Spring training begins

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Speaker 2: on Monday. The Wes Miller thing. A lot of folks

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Speaker 2: watched last night and said, look, it's time. Let's for

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Speaker 2: Wes's sake, let's move on. Let's spare him having to

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Speaker 2: keep doing this, keep getting booed, keep doing postgame interviews

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Speaker 2: bigger question I believe at least should be what gives

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Speaker 2: for lack of a better term, handicapped by the fact

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Speaker 2: dealing with injuries. I know everybody is basically ready to

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Speaker 2: But I still, and maybe this is too old school

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Speaker 2: answer to what gives over the final Like, it's not

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Speaker 2: regular season games to go. What gives this group of

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Speaker 2: players the best chance to compete, to still win games,

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Speaker 2: to put on the floor a representative product. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm inclined to believe the best thing

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Speaker 2: for the Encore product is to let their head coach

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Speaker 2: continue as head coach for this season. Up on four

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Speaker 2: I'm onegar. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks for listening,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully your weekend is off to an unbelievable start.

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Speaker 2: Despite the fact that we got more snow, which I think.

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Speaker 5: We're all over.

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Speaker 2: In these highly divided times where we can't agree on anything,

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Speaker 2: I think we agree that we're all over the snow.

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Speaker 2: More on the UC situation in West Miller last night,

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Speaker 2: a needless college basketball fight, how the Reds are going

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Speaker 2: to be good and how they're not, and we're the

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Speaker 2: right people paying attention when it was revealed last night

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Speaker 2: that neither Ken Anderson or Willie Anderson are making the

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame this year. All of that

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Speaker 2: and more, But we will start the hour by talking

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Speaker 2: to somebody who has been waiting patiently, because we, unlike

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Speaker 2: our pro sports teams here, do not like to make

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Speaker 2: people wait. Wyatt, You're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks for

674
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Speaker 2: hanging on. How are you I'm good something through? Oh why,

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Speaker 2: I'm well, man, what's going on?

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Speaker 14: Sorry?

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Speaker 13: Rough Street to Boston here?

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Speaker 2: Man, I've been there, yes, go ahead, yep, yep.

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Speaker 13: So no, I was just wondering if you if you

680
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Speaker 13: wanted to play a game called close your Eyes. Who's

681
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Speaker 13: coaching ready, Dak Taylor, Wes Miller and Scott Saderfield.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Good's elite mediocrity. Elite mediocrity.

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Speaker 10: Are you pity me there?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean I mean, like with Zach, there is a

686
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Speaker 2: super Bowl appearance to hang your head on, you know,

687
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Speaker 2: so he does have that equity that I believe he's

688
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Speaker 2: cashed in. With Sadderfield and with Wes, you can't say

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Speaker 2: either have the same.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's a It's definitely interesting how Cincinnati seems to draw,

691
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 13: you know, that, that same type of coach regardless. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: so quick question about Trey Hendrickson. He's been it's been

693
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Speaker 13: one of the bengals most consistent offenders. It just kind

694
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Speaker 13: of feels like a Jesse Bates situation. I'm flashing back here,

695
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Speaker 13: elite production and then just absolute hesitation from the front office.

696
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Speaker 13: I mean, I'm I'm just afraid we're gonna let him walk.

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Speaker 13: Miles Murphy is going to maybe maintain the baseline he's at.

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Speaker 13: But I didn't see anything from Shamar Stewart to say

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Speaker 13: that he's going to be any sort of stopcap.

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Speaker 2: So I understand the fear and the comparison. I'll say this,

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Speaker 2: When the Bengals let Jesse Bates go, he was twenty

702
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Speaker 2: five years old and was coming off five seasons where

703
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: he missed I think two games, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: so age was not a concern. I think with Jesse

705
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Speaker 2: it was we don't value safety as much. There are

706
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Speaker 2: lessons to be learned there. Because they're still looking for

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Speaker 2: his replacement with Trey Hendrickson, the concern is age and

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Speaker 2: then associated with that injury. Trey is going to be

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Speaker 2: thirty two by the end of this upcoming season, and

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Speaker 2: so I certainly share the fear that they're not going

711
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Speaker 2: to replace his production. And I can understand one that says,

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Speaker 2: you know what, just because he was hurt last year

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean we should discount the possibility of him still

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Speaker 2: being a productive player. That said, the Bengals fear about

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six came true in twenty twenty five. They've

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Speaker 2: not had him in their plans for twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: for a while, why age an injury? What happened in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five age and injury, so to a degree

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Speaker 2: in the short term, they got it right now. You

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Speaker 2: could also argue, well, if they didn't have plans for

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Speaker 2: him in twenty twenty six, they should have gotten out

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Speaker 2: in front of it and traded him and gotten something

723
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Speaker 2: for him. I'm with anybody who says that, But yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals overall, whether it's Jesse Bates, Andrew Whitworth, any

725
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Speaker 2: number of players they've had on the offensive line, on

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Speaker 2: defense up until the end of the season this past year,

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Speaker 2: should obey a Woozier. There is a track record of

728
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Speaker 2: not being able to replace really good players who leave.

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Speaker 2: So if what you just said ends up not being

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Speaker 2: the case, Let's say Miles Murphy continues to ascend. Let's

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Speaker 2: say Shamar Stewart proves that he was worth taking with

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Speaker 2: the first round pick. Let's say they sign a mid

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Speaker 2: tier free agent who can give them not Trey Hendrickson's productivity,

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Speaker 2: but good solid productivity and be a good rotational piece,

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Speaker 2: and they draft someone, then nobody's gonna be talking about

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson. Just like had Dax Hill worked out at

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Speaker 2: safety or had Gino Stone worked out at safety, we

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be talking about Jesse Bates. Really good players are

739
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Speaker 2: going to leave, really good players are going to get old,

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Speaker 2: Really good players are going to get hurt, and you go,

741
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Speaker 2: you know what, We're just not going to invest in

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Speaker 2: them anymore. You've got to be good at replacing him,

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Speaker 2: and the Bengals in recent history have not been.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I just I feel like it's it's just a

745
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Speaker 15: practice on the definition of insanity. You know, we're just

746
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Speaker 15: constantly trying the same thing, hoping to get a different result, like, oh,

747
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Speaker 15: maybe this guy will take a step, maybe this guy

748
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Speaker 15: will produce better, And it's just that constant hope when

749
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Speaker 15: right here we have a guy who is capable of

750
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Speaker 15: leading the league in sacks, doing leading the team in tackles.

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Speaker 15: I mean, I think he did last season what we

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Speaker 15: all wish Joe Burrow would have done, and that is

753
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Speaker 15: maybe kind of taken knee to let some things heal

754
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Speaker 15: because it was clear we were missing the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's there's to that. But like if the

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Speaker 2: concern going into last year and this, you know, this

757
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: isn't my opinion, it's it's pretty obvious the Bengals had

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Speaker 2: no plans for Trey Hendrickson in twenty twenty six. If

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Speaker 2: they did, they would have signed him. And it's reasonable

760
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Speaker 2: to assume that their hesitancy to give him a deal

761
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Speaker 2: for twenty twenty six was based on their belief that

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Speaker 2: his best years were behind him and he was more

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Speaker 2: likely to get hurt and we don't want to invest

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Speaker 2: in a player who's going to be, you know, thirty

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Speaker 2: two years old in twenty twenty six. If they felt

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Speaker 2: that way before this past season, nothing happened during this

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Speaker 2: season to change their minds. Now again, like when they

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Speaker 2: drafted Miles Murphy, I think it was fair to go, Okay,

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Speaker 2: by twenty twenty six, he'll overplaces Trey Hendrickson Right now,

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Speaker 2: you can't make that comparison as well as Miles played

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Speaker 2: at the end of the season. Well, a few years ago,

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Speaker 2: when they draft Jermaine Burton, it was okay, there's t

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Speaker 2: Higgins replacement, and then Jermaine Burton ends up being a

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Speaker 2: knucklehead and you have almost no choice but to invest

775
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Speaker 2: in t Higgins. But I actually think there are a

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Speaker 2: handful of teams that would have looked at Trey Henderson

777
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Speaker 2: and done something similar. Hey, his best years are behind him.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna pay him more when we're not gonna

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Speaker 2: be getting more production. And there are other teams that

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Speaker 2: would have said, screw it. He's still a capable player.

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Speaker 2: He's meant a lot to what we've done. We still

782
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Speaker 2: think he can contribute, and yeah, we'll pay him more

783
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Speaker 2: because that's just how the league works. I think it

784
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Speaker 2: will be fascinating to see how good Tray is, how

785
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Speaker 2: productive he is where he goes, and ultimately whether or

786
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Speaker 2: not the Bengals made the correct assessment about his age

787
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Speaker 2: thirty one to thirty two season, or if they end

788
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Speaker 2: up looking silly because Trey plays great and what the

789
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Speaker 2: Bengals do to try to replace him ends up, you know,

790
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: yielding the same results as so many other plans to

791
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Speaker 2: try to replace other really good players.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, I guess at the end of the

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Speaker 13: twenty twenty sixth season we.

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Speaker 14: Will well hide that conclusion.

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Speaker 2: Why at drive safe in the streets of Boston. Man,

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Speaker 2: Thanks so.

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Speaker 13: Much, absolutely, sir.

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Speaker 11: I have a great day, all right.

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Speaker 2: You do the same, like you know, the Zach sat

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Speaker 2: West thing there have been more than a few instances,

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Speaker 2: and we have beaten this to death on this show,

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Speaker 2: so excuse me if you've heard me go down this

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00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: road before. But there have been many instances where Zach

804
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: Taylor has deserved credit for something good that has happened.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure he's always gotten it. We try to

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Speaker 2: give it to him here, and I'll run through some

807
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: of them here very very quickly. Super Bowl run. To

808
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: sit down and design offensive game plans against really good

809
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: teams with lots on the line when you know your

810
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: offensive line stinks for the offense to still be functional,

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Speaker 2: that's really good coaching. That's a credit to Zach Taylor

812
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Speaker 2: Jake Browning having him ready to play at a decent

813
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Speaker 2: enough level to keep the team afloat in twenty twenty

814
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: three and he had never taken a meaningful NFL snap.

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Speaker 2: That's good coaching. Having a rookie quarterback as talented as

816
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Speaker 2: he is who learns the offense from his parents couch

817
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: in Athens, doesn't go through a normal training camp, doesn't

818
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: really go through a normal Ota doesn't play in the

819
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Speaker 2: preseason because of COVID having him up to speed and

820
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Speaker 2: in position to come this close to winning a football

821
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Speaker 2: game in Week one. I think that's good coaching. So

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Speaker 2: with Zach, I don't think you have to look that

823
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: far if you're being fair, to find some successes, Like

824
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: the Bengals offense for the most part, has been pretty good.

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00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor's an offensive coach. Like, there have been successes.

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Speaker 2: Obviously the last three years. The results speak for themselves.

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Speaker 2: They haven't been good enough. But with Zach you could

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Speaker 2: at least point to some spots where you go, you know, what,

829
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Speaker 2: he did the job here, He did the job here.

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Speaker 2: I think, specifically as it relates to Wes and Cincinnati,

831
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Speaker 2: programs have bad years. Certain teams just don't click. Sometimes

832
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: I have a team where the pieces just don't really fit.

833
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: The problem isn't so much this year, it's last year,

834
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Speaker 2: and the year after that and the year after that,

835
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Speaker 2: and then we're mitigating circumstances. It's hard to be a

836
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 2: new coach year one. It's hard to make that lead

837
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: from the AAC to the Big twelve. But I think

838
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: with Wes it's just there's just not a lot of

839
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 2: a lot of equity or past success to cash in.

840
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Speaker 2: And by the way, I think if you go back

841
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: to last season where the Bearcats had some pretty good

842
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: players Dylan Mitchell, Dan Skillings, Gisel James dayda A Thomas,

843
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: you know, good but players that have gone on to

844
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: find homes in many cases at high major schools. I

845
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: think most fans were kind of willing to go, Okay,

846
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: players are good enough, but the pieces just didn't fit. Fine,

847
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: let's hit the reset button next year. Fine play is

848
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: maybe as good, ideally better, but you got to make

849
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: the pieces fit. And it hasn't worked. And so now

850
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: it's year five, and I just, you know, to compare

851
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: Zach and Wes, like, I've seen Zach have some successes,

852
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: tangible successes, meaningful successes that I believe it's not that

853
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: hard to give him credit for. With Wes, look, yes

854
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 2: they've played hard, Yes they've done all the right things

855
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: in terms of not breaking in CAA rules, which there

856
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 2: really aren't any anymore, that there haven't been any academic issues.

857
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: The results just haven't been there. Scott's adderfield, I think

858
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: is hampered by the fact that a lot of fans

859
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: didn't want him to begin with, quite frankly, but also

860
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 2: the November record speaks for itself, and I think it

861
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: will be really interesting to gauge what everybody's baseline level

862
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: of expectation is for SAT in twenty twenty six. I think,

863
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: with Wes in particular, what makes this scenario so different is,

864
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: you know, you see basketball. Obviously, there haven't been a

865
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: lot of coaching changes. They had, you know, essentially two

866
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 2: head coaches for close to thirty years. But if you

867
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: think of, you know, in relatively recent history, when there

868
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 2: has been a coaching change that wasn't triggered by the

869
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: coach leaving on his own for another opportunity, the decision

870
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 2: hasn't been solely based on results. You know, twenty one

871
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: years ago, Bob Huggins was removed. Right or wrong, the

872
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 2: results were still pretty good. Bearcats were an NCAA tournament team.

873
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 2: They are still winning, you know, on a regular basis,

874
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: conference titles and conference tournament titles. It was a lot

875
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: of other stuff, a lot of other stuff that didn't

876
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: have that much to do with basketball. It was may

877
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 2: have been angry at the time, may still be angry now,

878
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: but the dismissal wasn't solely tied to on court results.

879
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 2: John Brannon a couple of years ago, I think it

880
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: would be really fascinating to see what would have happened

881
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: had John's last team that you see been really, really,

882
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: really good during the COVID year. But you know, the

883
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: dismissal didn't feel like it had that much to do

884
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 2: with on court results. If you want to fold football

885
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 2: into the conversation. Tommy Tubberville's results his last two seasons

886
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: weren't great, but I think there was a real sense that, like,

887
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: this guy isn't fully committed to the job. He said

888
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: a lot of really dumb things toward the end. The

889
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: decision might have been mostly driven by onfield results. I'm

890
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 2: not sure at least the public angst was solely tied

891
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: to on field results. I think with Wes, what is

892
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: so different about this? And I think to a degree

893
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: why some fans not most by, Why why some fans

894
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 2: are just struggling with this so much. There's no like

895
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: other thing. There's no NCAA scandal, there's no academic issue,

896
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: there's no issue with players getting in trouble, there's no

897
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: off court behavior that has brought embarrassment to the programs

898
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: of that. It's just the wins haven't been there, the

899
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: tournament appearances haven't been there, And I think to a

900
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: degree from a UC perspective, that's that's kind of what

901
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 2: makes this unique. It's what makes it difficult, and I

902
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 2: it is difficult, like who wanted this? Who wanted the

903
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 2: head coach at you see to not get the job done?

904
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: Now you know, Wes is expressing it in ways that

905
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: I think are human that reflect a guy who feels like,

906
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: you know what, I've done everything I can and it

907
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: just hasn't worked. And maybe the word failure is a

908
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: bit strong, but you may feel like a failure. I

909
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: think from a fan perspective, it's like we thought this

910
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: had a chance to work. It hasn't. Like there's anger,

911
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: there's frustration. I think most fans would be very willing

912
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: to say that Wes has done I don't want to

913
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: say the best he can, but he's there has been.

914
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: There's no reason other than the results to want to

915
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: move on. But the results are what mattered the most.

916
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 2: The results are ultimately what all of us care about

917
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: more than anything, and so it's tough man like, it's

918
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: it's I think it's I think a lot of fans

919
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: are just struggling with the weirdness of we don't we

920
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: like this guy. We want to like this guy, but

921
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: we hate the results, and so you know, we're gonna

922
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 2: find somebody who's gonna achieve different results. And there's no

923
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: other thing to drive the conversation.

924
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 10: I don't know.

925
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,479
Speaker 2: Nineteen minutes after four o'clock five point three seven four nine,

926
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty is our phone number. Yeah, the Trey Hendrickson thing,

927
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it will be fascinating to see if the

928
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: Bengals got this right. And look, they've they they they

929
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: bet that that Jesse Bates that they were gonna be

930
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 2: able to replace him. They couldn't. He's still playing at

931
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: a high level. They made a wager that Andrew Whitworth

932
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 2: was not going to play at a high level into

933
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: the second half of his thirties. They got that wrong.

934
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: They also moved on from some players that like you

935
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: never heard from again, Carl Lawson, William Jackson, players like that,

936
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: like not every player who has left has gone on

937
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: to make them regret it. But they've also done a

938
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: better job with some of those guys of replacing them.

939
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: And then there's a whole bunch of guys they haven't

940
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: been able to replace what they do with Trey Hendrickson.

941
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: What Trey Hendrickson does in the NFL in twenty twenty

942
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: six is gonna be fascinating, because I'm not sure either

943
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: outcome is surprising. Would you be stunned to see Trey

944
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: Hendrickson put together like a twelve or thirteen sack season

945
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: and help a team that needs a pass rush boost.

946
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 14: No.

947
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 2: Would it be that stunning to see a guy who's

948
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: gonna turn thirty two go through or continue to go

949
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 2: through a decline? No, And the Bengals are gonna be

950
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: judged by either. If he goes on and has success,

951
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 2: it's you dopes, let a guy like that get away.

952
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 2: And if they got it right, it's yeah, they got

953
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 2: out in front of it at almost the right time.

954
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: But if a year ago the Bengals did not have

955
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson in their twenty twenty sixth plan, did anything

956
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: happen over the last year to compel them to change

957
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: their minds. You may believe they should change their mind

958
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: but looking at it from their perspective, which is we

959
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: didn't have plans for him in twenty twenty six. He

960
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 2: didn't do anything in twenty twenty five to compel them

961
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: to suddenly pivot in another direction. Twenty one minutes after

962
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Speaker 2: four o'clock. More of your phone calls are welcome at

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964
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965
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: of college basketball, we do not need a made up

966
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 2: beef between fans of the last two unbeaten teams, do we?

967
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 2: I hope not. I'll explain what I'm talking about next.

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Speaker 2: King for another victory tomorrow at Marshall. That's a four

980
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: o'clock game in Huntington. I got a text from a

981
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: friend of a friend who lives in Huntington that I

982
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 2: cannot read on the air. Miami ranked twenty third in

983
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: the latest AP Top twenty five pole. The RedHawks are

984
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 2: twenty three and oh they are one of two undefeated

985
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: teams in high major college basketball. I saw this. I

986
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: saw this tweet last night from a guy by the

987
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 2: name of A Jason Shear, who is with Wildcatauthority dot

988
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: com and he is the co host of the Wildcats

989
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 2: Scoop podcast. And he's a big Arizona guy, which Arizona

990
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: is awesome. If you're a UC fan, you may have

991
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: seen the Bearcats play Arizona. If you're a college basketball fan,

992
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: you probably are familiar with how good Arizona is this year.

993
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: They are awesome. They are twenty three and zero. Their

994
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: undefeated record is not the same as Miami's undefeated record.

995
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: Anybody with half a brain knows that. But Jason tweeted

996
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: late last night. I guess he tweeted yesterday afternoon, and

997
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: I retweeted him late last night. The Miami of Ohio

998
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: story gets a lot less cooler when you realize the

999
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: strength of schedule is three sixty three. I don't know

1000
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: what this man's motivation is, but it's interesting. Here's somebody

1001
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: who's a big Arizona guy randomly tweeting about the Miami Radhawks.

1002
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: Arizona's undefeated, Miami is undefeated. We don't need a fight

1003
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: between the two. Arizona is a bona fide national CHAMPIONI contender.

1004
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: Apologies to Travis Steel. The RedHawks probably aren't. If Arizona

1005
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: played Miami in a rematch of an NCAA tournament game

1006
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: played in nineteen ninety five one by Miami. But if

1007
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 2: Arizona played Miami, I'm guessing Arizona would win, And if

1008
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: they played again after that, I'm guessing Arizona would win.

1009
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: And I'm guessing if they played again after that, Arizona

1010
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: would win. And if they played another five or six times,

1011
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 2: Arizona would probably win. And that's okay. Like, there's the

1012
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 2: beautiful thing about this sport. There's there's room for lots

1013
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: of different types of fun stories and lots of different

1014
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: types of really good teams. Miami's a cool story. Miami

1015
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: would be a cool story. And you may disagree. If

1016
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: they were twenty one and two, Miami was a cool story.

1017
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: Last year, they weren't getting nearly as much attention because

1018
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: they weren't undefeated. But midway through the season last year,

1019
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: it was I think very clear to anybody who cares

1020
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: or anybody who was paying attention that, like Travis Steele,

1021
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: has had turned things around a little bit. At this

1022
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: time a year ago, Miami was seventeen and five with

1023
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: a nine to one record in the MAC. Now, they

1024
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: lost a bunch of games toward the end of the season.

1025
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: They lost a heartbreaker in the MAC Conference in MAC

1026
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: Conference in the MAC Tournament title game, didn't make the

1027
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament. But like Miami basketball turned the corner last

1028
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: year and then brought back ten dudes from last year's team,

1029
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: and so it was reasonable to expect they might be

1030
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: really good. Unfortunately, they can't get anybody to play him.

1031
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: That has been well documented. Nobody, including Travis Steel himself,

1032
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: on multiple occasions, would claim that the schedule is anything

1033
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: other than what it is, which it's not great metrically

1034
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: and otherwise. But the reason why Miami is a cool story,

1035
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: and maybe I hold the minority opinion here, isn't that

1036
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: they're undefeated. Miami's a cool story for two other reasons. One,

1037
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: a very long dormant program that shouldn't be dormant, I mean,

1038
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm not a Miami fan or a lum. Let's be honest, man.

1039
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: In the nineteen years I've been on the air, we

1040
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: haven't talked a lot about Miami basketball. Why it's been

1041
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: basically a non factor for much of this century Unless

1042
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: you heard Lance talking about how he wanted to drink

1043
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: lemonade on his sports with Charlie Coles. How often do

1044
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: we talk about Miami basketball the program for the better

1045
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: part of this century. Wally zerbiaks last year in Oxford

1046
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: was twenty seven years ago. Since then, largely a non factor,

1047
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 2: fun run to the tournament in two thousand and seven

1048
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: when they won the MAC Tournament. Beyond that, tons of

1049
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: losing seasons, whole bunch of coaches that everybody has forgotten,

1050
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: never really making a dent in the local sports landscape.

1051
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 2: Now the program matters, and it's got a chance to

1052
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 2: win a regular season conference championship, which is extremely undervalued

1053
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 2: in this sport that in itself is a cool story.

1054
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: Long Dorman program is reawakened, and so has the campus

1055
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: around it, So have fans, So have a lums. Look,

1056
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: I'm not dumb, well i am, but I'm not dumb

1057
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: enough to think that folks who are going to Mallet

1058
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 2: Hall have been living and dying with every RedHawks game.

1059
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 2: Many have, some have not. That's okay, most sports fans

1060
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 2: are bandwagon fans, but that dynamic. Whether you are enjoying

1061
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 2: an undefeated season or just a year where you have

1062
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 2: a chance to win a regular season title and you've

1063
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: got a chance to play in the NCAA tournament, that

1064
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: is cool. That's a cool story. Long Dorman program is reawakened,

1065
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 2: so taiale as old as sports themselves. Travis Steel is

1066
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: also a cool story. I don't know what Travis is

1067
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: going to do over the course of the next couple months,

1068
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Speaker 2: a couple of years, ten years. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: he's going to stay in Oxford. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: he desires to coach the highest of of high majors.

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01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 2: I have no idea, but I do think there's something

1072
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: pretty cool about a guy getting a shot at Xavier,

1073
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: it not working out, and then making the most of

1074
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: a second opportunity. What it means for him, I have

1075
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: no idea, but that's a cool story. That that was

1076
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: a cool story last year. Miami wasn't undefeated last year,

1077
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: So like I don't know, you know, we always said

1078
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: we want to root for the little guy. Here's a

1079
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: little guy. We want the old way of college basketball.

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Speaker 11: Cool.

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01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 2: This team had ten guys from last year's We love

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01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 2: redemptive stories. Travis Steele is one. We love a dormant

1083
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: program that's reawakened. That's Miami for you. I cannot imagine

1084
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 2: if you care about this is Arizona basketball. Okay, Arizona basketball,

1085
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: and you've got to pick a beef with Miami. Like,

1086
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: if you're an Arizona fan, you want to navigate the

1087
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 2: Big Twelve undefeated, which would be a remarkable accomplishment. You

1088
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 2: want to get to a Final four for the first

1089
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 2: time in forever. You want to win a national championship

1090
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 2: like and and and gotta, we gotta, we gotta make

1091
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 2: sure we remind everybody that our undefeated record is different

1092
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 2: than Miami's undefeated record. Everybody knows that the beauty of

1093
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: this sport is you could have two teams in February

1094
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 2: that are undefeated. Look, Miami schedule hasn't been awesome, but

1095
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: it's not like Arizona playing the same type of non

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01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 2: conference schedule. It's Miami playing that kind of non conference schedule. Arizona,

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Speaker 2: who everybody will play, plays that kind of schedule. It's

1098
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: inexcusable Miami plays that kind of schedule. It's a result

1099
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Speaker 2: of nobody else wanting to play him. We do not

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01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:53,479
Speaker 2: need an Arizona versus Miami beef, do we? Twenty seven

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Speaker 2: away from uh five o'clock. More of your phone calls

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Speaker 2: are coming out. We have Jason. We got a as

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Speaker 2: Mike calling us from Radio Row. Mike said he calls

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Speaker 2: from Radio Row. Hopefully we hear from him from Radio Row.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty seven away from five o'clock. Sports headlines coming up,

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Speaker 2: you're inclined, you want to take a look at for

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Speaker 2: the super Bowl in the next hour on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: Was was was that guy like trying to not wake

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Speaker 2: up the kids while he was doing that commercial the

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Speaker 2: guy for boot Barn, Teraran, can you really quickly pull

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01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 2: up that audio? The guy from boot Barn. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, look, he has got a great, great speaking voice,

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Speaker 2: and and I'm not a big boot guy. I don't

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Speaker 2: wear boots, but I'm sure boot Barn is the absolute best.

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Speaker 2: But but that guy, he sounded like he sounded like

1130
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Speaker 2: he was trying to tell you a secret, so.

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Speaker 10: We know you need a reliable work the boot that

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Speaker 10: has withstood the test.

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Speaker 2: Of time, trying to make sure you can't take chances,

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Speaker 2: all right, Like he's speaking very very so he doesn't

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Speaker 2: He sounds like he's not quite as confident in boot

1136
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Speaker 2: Barn as he should be. He sounds like like, you know,

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: sometimes when my my daughter goes to bed and she's upstairs,

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Speaker 2: but she's still awake, and my wife and I want

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01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 2: to have a conversation and it's about her. You know.

1140
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: That's good. That's kind of happening. Like, hey, Crossley might

1141
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 2: not have school tomorrow. Okay, can't let her hear all right.

1142
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: So the boot Barn guy wants you to know that

1143
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: the boot Barn is the place to go buy boots.

1144
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Speaker 2: He doesn't want the person in the other room to

1145
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 2: go to boot Barn, however, thank you. Ben Roartvett is

1146
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: not going to play for the Reds because the Dodgers

1147
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 2: picked him back up. He's a catcher who played for

1148
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers last year. Graham Ashcraft wins his arbitration against

1149
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 2: the Reds. College hoops Tonight, Dayton's at VCU. By the way,

1150
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:26,560
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1153
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: tonight at seven o'clock. This weekend. College hoops Tomorrow, Miami

1154
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: is at Marshall at four. NKU is hosting Milwaukee at five.

1155
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: That game's on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. Kentucky battles Tennessee

1156
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: Wildcats came back from down eighteen in the first game

1157
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: against the Volunteers. Pregame at seven on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1158
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Speaker 2: Also tomorrow, Indiana takes on Wisconsin. Sunday at Ohio State

1159
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Speaker 2: and Michigan u SEE hosts UCF hockey. Tonight, Cyclones play

1160
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 2: Toledo in Toledo. What are we doing? Now? We're making

1161
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 2: fun of the boot barn guy and I got distracted.

1162
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: Do we still have Taron Jason with us? Jason, You're

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01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty. Apparently the answer is yes.

1164
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Speaker 11: Go ahead, Well, how you doing?

1165
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm well, Jason, what's going on?

1166
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Speaker 9: All right?

1167
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 11: So I'm going to read a few stats off between

1168
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 11: two different quarterbacks. I want to see if you can

1169
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Speaker 11: guess who they are. Okay, fifty nine point three percent

1170
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 11: completion percentage, thirty two thousand plus yards, one hundred and

1171
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 11: ninety seven touchdowns, and one hundred and sixty interceptions. Who

1172
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Speaker 11: is that?

1173
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 2: So I just have to guess blindly based on these statistics?

1174
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: All right? That's I'm cheating because I know Ken Anderson

1175
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: had one hundred and ninety seven touchdown passes. So that's

1176
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 2: Ken Anderson correct?

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Speaker 9: All right?

1178
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 11: Now, this kind fifty point one percent completion percent age,

1179
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 11: twenty seven thousand plus yards, one hundred and seventy three touchdowns,

1180
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 11: and two hundred and twenty interceptions. Who is that?

1181
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 2: Give me, give me one? Is that a Hall of Famer?

1182
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 2: Give me that hint?

1183
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 11: It is?

1184
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: Is that Ken Stabler?

1185
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 12: Nope?

1186
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 11: One more gift?

1187
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: Uh? Is it like Bob Greasy?

1188
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 11: No, it's Joe Namath.

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01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 2: It's Joe Namath.

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Speaker 11: Okay, explain how Joe Namath is in the Hall of

1191
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Speaker 11: Fame and Ken Anderson is not.

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01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 2: Well. As much as I hate to do this, Joe

1193
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 2: Namath won a super Bowl and an iconic one, and

1194
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: he was a star that sort of transcended football. You know, commercials,

1195
01:08:56,240 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: the Joe Namath show wearing pantyhose. His love life was

1196
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Speaker 2: well documented, and so he's more famous than Ken Anderson.

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01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: And like, by the way, in the AFL when we

1198
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Speaker 2: had the merger, he led the league in a bunch

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Speaker 2: of different categories. But if you want to tell me

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Speaker 2: that Joe Namath was a better quarterback than Ken Anderson,

1201
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 2: you gave me all these statistics I need to know

1202
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 2: to say that you're wrong. So you and I aren't

1203
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 2: exactly the same page I have no issue with Joe

1204
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 2: Namath being in campon. He's a seminal figure in the

1205
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 2: growth of the NFL. And you know, he was a

1206
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: pro bowler and All Pro all of that. Fine, But

1207
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: if you look at the two like Football Reference pages

1208
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 2: side by side, Joe Namath had more picks than touchdowns.

1209
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 2: Joe Namath had some seasons at the.

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Speaker 9: End of it.

1211
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: At the end of his career. Look, he had a

1212
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 2: massive amount of injuries, his knees were shot, where he

1213
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: was a liability to his team. His peak was not

1214
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 2: as long as Ken Anderson's was the entirety of their career. Statistically,

1215
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 2: Ken was better. But Namath has a ring played in

1216
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: New York. He was Broadway Joe and Ken was a

1217
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 2: guy who went to a school in Illinois that nobody

1218
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: has ever heard of, playing in Cincinnati uh, an upstart

1219
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 2: franchise in the seventies, and a team that didn't win

1220
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 2: a championship in nineteen eighty one.

1221
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, I get that, but I think it irritates me

1222
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 11: that Namath is in the Hall of Fame more for

1223
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 11: stuff off the field than on the field.

1224
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, like that's that's not to take away

1225
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 2: from what he did do. I mean, there was there

1226
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 2: was a there was a stretch, you know, before the

1227
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: merger where Joe Namath was the face of the AFL.

1228
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 2: And and that's fine, Like I had no issue with

1229
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 2: him being in Campton. I nothing against him, but Ken

1230
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 2: Anderson was the better player. But you're right to be

1231
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 2: agitated by a voter who would look at Joe Namath

1232
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 2: and think about that have nothing to do with football,

1233
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 2: when Ken, through no fault of his own, doesn't have

1234
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 2: those things. What Ken does have is a statistical resume

1235
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 2: that's better than Joe Namath and comparable to a lot

1236
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 2: of guys who are in can.

1237
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 11: Well. I'm you know, and I'm also looking at his

1238
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 11: AFL stats too. Ninety seven touchdowns, one hundred and four interceptions,

1239
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 11: fifty point two completion percentage. That's not not that.

1240
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 2: Great, no, No, I mean, if if you were to

1241
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 2: do what you did with me to anybody else and

1242
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 2: just read the numbers, they would say not a Hall

1243
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: of Famer. And like all right played. You know, obviously

1244
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 2: Ken entered the NFL in the early seventies, but but

1245
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: Joe's still a big part of an era where you know,

1246
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 2: if you completed fifty percent of your passes. It was

1247
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 2: a big deal where teams leaned on the running game

1248
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 2: a whole lot, a whole lot more than they did.

1249
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 2: You know, by the time Ken was, you know, had

1250
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: become a star in Cincinnati. But if the first thing

1251
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 2: you look at in any comparison between two players in

1252
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 2: determining their Hall of Fame worthiness, if one guy's in

1253
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 2: the Hall and you look at his numbers, and the

1254
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: other guy's numbers are better, which in Ken's case, they

1255
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 2: clearly are right. It it it should be. It should

1256
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 2: bother you. And it is comical that Ken doesn't get

1257
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 2: in and name it does. And like I like, I understand,

1258
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 2: you're you're, you're, you're. You're talking about voters who have

1259
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 2: their own criteria and and the people who voted in

1260
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: Joe Namath are probably not voting for who's in the

1261
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame now. But I always think that the

1262
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 2: first thing you should do is compare any candidate to

1263
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: people who are already in. And you can make an

1264
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 2: argument that Joe Namath is the worst quarterback in Canton,

1265
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that he wasn't deserving. Somebody's got to

1266
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 2: be the worst. Ken Anderson's better than Joe Namath, and

1267
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: then it's do you hold against him the fact that

1268
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: he didn't win a ring. I do not. It's not

1269
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 2: like not winning a ring has kept other quarterbacks out.

1270
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 2: Dan Founz never even played in a Super Bowl. He's in.

1271
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 2: Dam Marino obviously deserves to be in. Never won a

1272
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. That's not held against him. And maybe those

1273
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 2: two players were statistically better. But if there's a precedent

1274
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 2: of not holding not winning a ring against players, and

1275
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 2: then there are players in the Hall of Fame that

1276
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 2: Ken is better than than, leaving him out to me

1277
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 2: doesn't make a lot of sense.

1278
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 11: No, it doesn't to me either. I would just as

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Speaker 11: anybody come out and ever said the reason why they

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Speaker 11: don't vote any in.

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Speaker 2: Well, again, everybody's got their own reasons. The frustrating thing

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Speaker 2: about this process is number one, there's confusion as to

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01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: how it works, and number two, there's no obligation for transparency.

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01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 2: And so I think what we It might not make

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01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 2: us feel any better, but it would at least be

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01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: interesting to hear from a voter who says, look, I

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01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: carefully vetted this out. I listened to the case that

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01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: has made for Kenny. I've done the research. Here's why

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01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 2: the answer is no. I thought when Ken Stabler got in,

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01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 2: I thought when Ken Stabler got and it voted well

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01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: for Kenny because I thought Kenny was as good of

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01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: a player. The difference is Ken Stabler won a ring,

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01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 2: cool nickname, Kenny Anderson did not know cool nickname. I

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01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 2: would be willing to bet that if you got everybody

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01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: who's ever had a chance to vote for Ken together

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01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: and ask them, I believe you would certainly get a

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01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 2: wide variety of reasons why they didn't vote for him,

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01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 2: But the one that you would hear the most would

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01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 2: be he didn't win a ring playing the game's most

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01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 2: important position. I think that's a really short sighted way

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01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 2: of looking at things. I think that's a really unfair

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01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: way of looking at things. But I think that would

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01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 2: be the reason. But it would be great to know

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01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 2: that that's the reason, instead of speculating as to what

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01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 2: the reason is.

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01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 11: Yeah, I should be the entire body of work, not

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01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 11: just whether you got or not.

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01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: We're on the same page. I did appreciate the thought exercise.

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01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: Sorry I kind of cheated. Thanks so much, man, Man.

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01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 11: Thanks.

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01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: You know, if you if you look at this is

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01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: not the most scientific metric or most scientific way to

1313
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 2: judge such things. But if you look at Pro Football Reference,

1314
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 2: and they do this for baseball players as well, they

1315
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: there's a tool. It's similar players, players whose career was

1316
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 2: of similar quality and shape, and they do it through

1317
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 2: pretty much every year of a player's career once they're established.

1318
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: So for NFL players, it's it's year three. So, for instance,

1319
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 2: in Ken Anderson's eighth year, his eighth season was comparable

1320
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:54,440
Speaker 2: to that of Troy Aikman, Donovan McNabb, Joe Namath, Joe Montana,

1321
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 2: Drew Bledsoe, Bob Greasy, Jim Everett, Jim Zorn, Carson Palmer.

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01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 2: Obviously not all those guys are Hall of Famers, but

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01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 2: if you look at the career career players whose career

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01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: was of similar quality and shape, here are some of

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01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 2: the names. Dan Fouts Hall of Fame, Joe Montana Hall

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01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 2: of Fame, Terry Bradshaw Hall of Fame, Bob Greasy Hall

1327
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 2: of Fame, Warren Moon Hall of Fame. Ken Anderson should

1328
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame nine minutes away from

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01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 2: five o'clock. More of your phone calls five point three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty is uh Darren, do we know if Mike

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01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 2: is calling us from Radio Row?

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Speaker 10: When I took his call, he was on his way up.

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Speaker 2: He was on his way up to Radio Row. Yes,

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01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 2: on his way up to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 16: Right.

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01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 2: Very good. I heard something on a different radio station

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01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 2: last night that makes me wonder something about Mike. We'll

1338
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 2: get to that coming up in the five o'clock hour

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Speaker 2: Five A four. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. It's last

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Speaker 2: hour of the week at least for us. Hope your

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Speaker 2: weekend is off to a great start off. Moweger, thank you,

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01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. Thanks. We were talking last hour

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 2: about Ken Anderson in the Hall of Fame, and I

1359
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: don't want to slight Willie Anderson because Willie did this

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01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: a few years ago where he had folks that like

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01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus do a deep dive into you know,

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01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 2: how good he was, because he like legitimately wanted to

1363
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 2: make the argument like, yeah, man, I'm I'm a Hall

1364
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 2: of Famer. I'm I'm a legitimate Hall of Famer. I'll

1365
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 2: say this, I've done not a total one to eighty.

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01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: But what you know, when I was I don't know,

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01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: as a kid or you know, for much of my

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01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 2: adult life, I always felt it was like sort of

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01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: unbecoming to hear someone talk about how they wanted to

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01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame, you know that they

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01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 2: deserve those accolades, and it's like, wait a minute, we're

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01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 2: talking about like the most competitive people of all time.

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01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 2: We're talking about folks who like, Yes they've been awarded

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01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 2: lots of accolades, Yes they've accomplished a lot, Yes they've

1375
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: made tons of money. But who doesn't want to be

1376
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 2: regarded as one of the very best of the best

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01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 2: of the best of the best. If there was a

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01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 2: a realistic chance I could be in the Radio Hall

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01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 2: of Fame, I would want to be in the Radio

1380
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. I'm smart enough to know I'm lucky

1381
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 2: if I could just get through every show, much less

1382
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 2: be in the Radio Hall of Fame. But if, like iHeartMedia,

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01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: Cincinnati had a Hall of Fame, which frankly, we should,

1384
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 2: I at some point want to be in it. So

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01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 2: I get it. Willie wants me in the Hall of Fame,

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01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 2: Anderson and Ken Anderson wants me in the Hall of Fame,

1387
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 2: and I get it. We're gonna get to Wes Miller

1388
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 2: and the Bearcats coming up here in a bit. Plus

1389
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 2: I've got five Super Bowl bets you should make, and

1390
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 2: a quick thought on the Reds. As spring training draws closer,

1391
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 2: hopefully we'll get to that. Spring training begins on Monday.

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01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: Are you with me now? As it relates to the

1393
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame did this last week. My take on

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01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,799
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame is, you know, they're nice museums

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01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 2: to visit. We've inflated their importance. Got a lot of

1396
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 2: pushback when I said that, because we've been trained to

1397
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 2: think that Halls of Fame are like these mythical plays,

1398
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 2: mystical places, if you will, these sacred shrines in they're museums.

1399
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 2: And if you're elected to the Hall of Fame in football,

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01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 2: you get a bronze bust, and you get a day

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01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 2: to get to make a speech, and a gold jacket.

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01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's other types of benefits. But as

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01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 2: as a fan, I believe, and maybe I'm still in

1404
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 2: the minority, you could tell me Halls of Fame are

1405
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 2: no longer as useful. They're certainly no longer as useful

1406
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 2: as they used to be. Like, I feel bad, and

1407
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm guessing this is where most Bengals fans are coming from.

1408
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: Feel bad for Willie Anderson, you feel bad for Ken Anderson.

1409
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 2: Both are good men, Both are deserving candidates, and I

1410
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 2: think you know, as iconic members of this franchise, which

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01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 2: both are, who doesn't want to see them get their

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01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 2: moment it's it's completely reasonable to be sad, for them

1413
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 2: to be upset, for them to feel like they're getting

1414
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 2: deprived of what most of us believe would be a

1415
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: really cool and meaningful moment for them and their families,

1416
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 2: a chance to tell their story, a chance to stand

1417
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 2: up there, get the jacket, make the speech, have somebody

1418
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 2: induct them like that would be awesome. Can you imagine,

1419
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 2: like that's your dad, or that your grandfather, or that's

1420
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 2: one of your best friends, and they get that moment

1421
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:30,839
Speaker 2: like it's incredibly meaningful and so man it it stinks.

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01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 2: I'll be as gentle as possible that neither guy is

1423
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: gonna get it this year, and maybe neither guy ever will.

1424
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, but we got to

1425
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 2: stop using the Hall of Fame as a barometer to

1426
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 2: measure greatness. We just had a conversation with a guy

1427
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 2: named Jason last hour who brought up Joe namath Man,

1428
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm more than aware of joe name is

1429
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 2: significance to pro football in this country. Was not a

1430
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 2: better football player, was not a better quarterback than Ken

1431
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 2: Anderson was, So why are we using the Hall of

1432
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: Fame as a barometer for greatness when it's it's an

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01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: inaccurate one, it's an unfair one. It's it's one where

1434
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 2: the people who who choose the Hall of Famers could

1435
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: apply ridiculous criteria, and like, that's that's that's the beauty

1436
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 2: of voting. Nobody wants to take away votes like that,

1437
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,799
Speaker 2: the beauty of of you in the ballot box versus

1438
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 2: me in the ballot boxes. You may care about other

1439
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 2: things than I do. You may prefer different types of

1440
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 2: candidates than I do, and that's that's okay. We all

1441
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 2: apprior apply our own criteria, but understanding that we gotta

1442
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 2: stop using Halls of Fame as a barometer for greatness.

1443
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 2: It has They have exceeded their usefulness, and the validation

1444
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 2: the validation of others has never seemed less important. It

1445
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 2: is not hard to judge what Ken Anderson did, what

1446
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 2: his impact was, and what he meant to the bet,

1447
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 2: to the team that we care about. Willy Anderson's a

1448
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: little bit different because it's just it's more difficult to

1449
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 2: measure offensive line play. But we watched him here. We

1450
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 2: know how good the guy was. We also know the

1451
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 2: obstacles that worked against him for most of his career,

1452
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,560
Speaker 2: Willy Anderson played for trash teams, Like I mean that

1453
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 2: dude put up with having to play out a lot

1454
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 2: of really crappy franchises or a lot of really crappy

1455
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 2: teams for what was for most of his time here,

1456
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 2: bad franchise. Fortunately, he was a major reason why the

1457
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 2: thing got turned around in the mid two thousands, made

1458
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 2: the playoffs in two thousand and five, and it's one

1459
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: of the reasons why he's beloved. But we could put

1460
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 2: Willie Anderson's career in the proper context. I can do

1461
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 2: that without a bunch of Hall of Fame voters who

1462
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 2: are not compelled or required to offer any real insight

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01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 2: into why they voted the way they did. So you know,

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01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: I know I beat this to death last week, but

1465
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 2: last night to me was a reminder like, okay, fine,

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01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 2: they're not getting in, and so unfortunately for you and I,

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01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: you're not going to get a chance to drive to Canton,

1468
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 2: Ohio and pay the admission and walk through the hall

1469
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 2: and look at a bust that may or may not

1470
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 2: look like Willy Anderson or Ken Anderson. I wish I could,

1471
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 2: We can't. Does that make them any less great in

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01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 2: your eyes? Does that make them any less important in

1473
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 2: your eyes? By the way, I hope the folks who

1474
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 2: run the Bengals were paying attention to this. The argument

1475
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 2: for a ring of honor for years was, you know,

1476
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 2: you got dudes like Ken Anderson and Willy Anderson and

1477
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 2: others who may or may not ever get their moment

1478
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 2: in Canton, so let them have one in Cincinnati. Bengals

1479
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 2: are going to take a good hard look at how

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01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: they do the Ring of Honor. Maybe you disagree, but

1481
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 2: I am a I'm a proponent of a big ring

1482
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 2: of honor. Like I don't think we have to make

1483
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 2: it that exclusive. But the reason for having a big

1484
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 2: ring of honor now is you have a lot of

1485
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 2: dudes who are deserving. Like Bob Trumpy passed away a

1486
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 2: few months ago. Bob Trumpy will probably be in the

1487
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 2: Ring of Honor one day. Why do we have to

1488
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 2: wait until he's dead? Like, couldn't give that guy his

1489
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Speaker 2: moment at what used to be called Paul Brown Stadium.

1490
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 2: We got to stop gatekeeping the thing here locally, understanding

1491
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 2: that what stinks about not getting Ken and Willie into

1492
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 2: the hall isn't that they don't get a bust it's

1493
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: that they don't get a moment. So how about this,

1494
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 2: when it comes to your franchise greats or in some

1495
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:32,799
Speaker 2: cases your franchise is really goods, give them their moments.

1496
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 2: Bob Trump, he should have gotten his moment at Peikor

1497
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 2: Stadium last year or two years ago. And there's lots

1498
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 2: of people on that ballot who should have already had

1499
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 2: their moments. Give it to him. Now, put all those

1500
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 2: dudes who have been on the ballot already and put

1501
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 2: him in twelve minutes after five o'clock. That went down

1502
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 2: last night. So did the basketball game you see in

1503
01:25:55,360 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 2: West Virginia. Let's get to the game itself first at halftime,

1504
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 2: knowing what you know, knowing what you know. If you're

1505
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 2: a Bearcat fan, which was they're shorthanded, especially in the

1506
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 2: front court. No mustapha cham means you're gonna have to

1507
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,719
Speaker 2: ask Baba Miller to never leave the floor. You're gonna

1508
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 2: ask more of how Vinzela. You're gonna ask more of

1509
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: Tyler McKinley, who started last night. They played pretty well

1510
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 2: in the first half, well enough to build a ten

1511
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 2: point lead. They were good on the glass, very good defensively.

1512
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 2: Up thirty to twenty. But knowing how this works and

1513
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 2: knowing what you know, the issues with sustaining anything in

1514
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: any game, the issues they've had closing out games, that

1515
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 2: ten point lead felt tenuous, when a balloon to fourteen

1516
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: early in the second felt like a house of cards.

1517
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 2: So the result itself, the way it unfolded, with Honor

1518
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 2: Huff going off and the Bearcats breaking down offensively and

1519
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 2: just not executing at all. Be honest, man, none of

1520
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 2: that was surprising. The bigger ends up being Wes Miller

1521
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 2: after the game. You'll hear what he had to say

1522
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 2: in the post game. I'm sure you've heard it by

1523
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 2: now already. In just a second, there's a video circulating

1524
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 2: on Twitter of him talking to some fans, and I

1525
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 2: don't think he's being a jerk by any stretch, but

1526
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 2: it's a different version of what he said to Dan

1527
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 2: and Terry after the game last night. And I thought

1528
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: it was a very revealing glimpse into what Wes is

1529
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 2: going through right now. And I don't say this to

1530
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,679
Speaker 2: try to compel anybody to feel sorry for him. It's

1531
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 2: just this is where they are. They're eleven and twelve,

1532
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 2: it's year five. There was already a ton of pressure

1533
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 2: coming into the season. The season has gone poorly. He's

1534
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 2: getting bowed, team is getting bowed. Folks are ready to

1535
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 2: hit the ejec button. It is I think very very

1536
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 2: very likely that Wes Miller is not going to be

1537
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 2: the coach at you see next year. And that's that's

1538
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 2: got a way on some So here is the post

1539
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 2: game last night, Taran, if you can cut it up

1540
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 2: for me, here's the postgame last night. I don't think

1541
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 2: West deserves any amount of criticism for what you're about

1542
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 2: to hear. You want a criticism for how he's coached.

1543
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 2: Fair game, We've done it. You want to criticize him

1544
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 2: for the lack of results, Fair game, We've done it.

1545
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 2: Want to criticize him for some of the things he

1546
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 2: has said in postgame interviews this year? Hell yeah, fair game,

1547
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 2: We've done it. This I think this is just a

1548
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 2: human moment. Go ahead and play the audio cut.

1549
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 8: You are in good position to win this game with

1550
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 8: about fifteen minutes to go, up by twelve in West

1551
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 8: Virginia obviously went out a run from there.

1552
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: What change?

1553
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 8: What allowed the Mountaineers to pull this game out in

1554
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 8: the last fifteen.

1555
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 9: Well, we did such a good job on Huff for

1556
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 9: a stretch, like executed our game plan masterfully, and then

1557
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 9: he got loose. I think he scored twelve in a

1558
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 9: row at one point he did. And then we got

1559
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 9: tight on offense and we stopped making plays. Uh, we

1560
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 9: weren't able to convert plays. We we didn't play with

1561
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 9: the same confidence that we played with.

1562
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: We got a little.

1563
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 9: Tight, and we we tried to go with the group

1564
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 9: that was the best tonight, and they probably didn't have

1565
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 9: enough in the tank.

1566
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 2: To do what we had to do.

1567
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 9: But I'll say this to you guys, and and to

1568
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 9: everybody that's listening.

1569
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 16: I uh, everybody deserves to be frustrated with us and

1570
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 16: with me, and uh it ain't okay to me. I

1571
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 16: am uh, I'm sorry, it's not it's not okay.

1572
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 9: There's no excuse. So I'm I'm sorry to people out there.

1573
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 9: We have to finish games. Uh, that's the responsibility of

1574
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:52,440
Speaker 9: coaching at this program.

1575
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 10: And I'm really I'm really sorry.

1576
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 9: I promise everybody out there you deserve to be frustrated.

1577
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 2: Say what you say or what you deserve it. I

1578
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 2: promise you.

1579
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 9: I'm giving every part of my soul to this thing

1580
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 9: and I care deeply about this program and it ain't okay.

1581
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 9: So I don't want anybody to think I think it's okay.

1582
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 9: It's not, and people deserve to be frustrated. Nobody is

1583
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 9: more frustrated with the results than I.

1584
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 2: I don't believe that's an appeal for sorrow. I don't

1585
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 2: believe that's an appeal for anybody to give him a

1586
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 2: second chance. I think that's a guy who understands what

1587
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 2: the likely outcome here is who took this job, not

1588
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 2: imagining that five years in that he'd leave on his

1589
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 2: own volition without having accomplished what he was hired to accomplish.

1590
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 2: And like, yeah, man, he makes a lot of money.

1591
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 2: He's going to get paid a lot of money if

1592
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 2: he goes away. Okay, that doesn't dehumanize anybody. And like,

1593
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, all that matters are

1594
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 2: the results. The results aren't there. This is a result

1595
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 2: based business. Nobody we talked about this three weeks ago

1596
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 2: when Wes was taking a dramatically different tone during his

1597
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:09,679
Speaker 2: postgame shows. There's nobody who doesn't recognize, like, this guy's

1598
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 2: worked hard, this guy's done the best that he can.

1599
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 2: I don't have a more plain way of saying it.

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01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 2: It's not been because he hasn't cared, and it hasn't

1601
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 2: been because he hasn't done everything in his power to

1602
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 2: make this program better, and it just hasn't worked. And

1603
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 2: so you and I as fans can go, Okay, what's next,

1604
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 2: and that's gonna happen. But I thought there was a

1605
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 2: revealing glimpse into what it's like to kind of be

1606
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 2: at the center of all that, where what's next for

1607
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 2: him has to wait while you process failing. And I

1608
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 2: hate to use that word because it sounds harsher than

1609
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 2: it is, but you know, put yourself in his shoes.

1610
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 2: He's not making excuses. Maybe if you pressed him privately,

1611
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 2: he would offer some. I don't know, but I was

1612
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 2: brought here to do a certain job. I haven't done it.

1613
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 2: My best haven't done it. Who among us can't relate

1614
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:08,759
Speaker 2: to that like legitimately? Who among us personally, professionally somewhere

1615
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 2: can't relate to I threw my heart into this. I've

1616
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 2: done everything I thought I could. I've done what I

1617
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 2: thought was right. I've worked my ass off, and I

1618
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 2: just I've I haven't achieved the results that I was

1619
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 2: hired to achieve. I don't care how much money you make.

1620
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 2: I don't care what your your status in life is.

1621
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 2: I don't I don't care what golden parachute you may have.

1622
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 2: On the other end, that has to be overwhelming. I

1623
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 2: say it like I don't know. I do know. I

1624
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 2: mean I if every time I failed at something that

1625
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 2: I really really, really really worked hard at, I had

1626
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 2: to then you know, talk about it publicly at some point,

1627
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 2: I'd bear my soul. If I had to do a

1628
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 2: radio show the day I got divorced, it would have

1629
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 2: sounded like that. If I had to go on air

1630
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 2: when my first radio show got canceled, That's what I

1631
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 2: would have sounded like, and so many of us would

1632
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 2: as well. So look, man, fair to wonder where are

1633
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 2: they gonna go next? Fair to wonder if it's time

1634
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 2: to go ahead and just move on now? Like I

1635
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 2: think Wes would admit that, I would counter that I'm

1636
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 2: not entirely sure that would be best for the players

1637
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 2: who are in the program now, and that should be

1638
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:21,679
Speaker 2: a consideration. But you know, viewing that as a purely

1639
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 2: human moment last night, that's all it was. That's that's

1640
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 2: all it was. And I frankly, I found that more

1641
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 2: relatable than anything. Wes has played a lot of different

1642
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 2: cards in the postgame interview, and there's there's also a

1643
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 2: part of me that thinks, like, dude, game ends take

1644
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 2: a little bit longer before you come back out. That's

1645
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 2: a different conversations. He's been angry with his players, he's

1646
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 2: defended his players, he's tried to accentuate the positives in losses.

1647
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 2: He's come at people on social media that he perceives

1648
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 2: as taking unfair shots at him. I don't know what

1649
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 2: the next one's gonna sound like. I don't know what

1650
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,759
Speaker 2: the one's gonna sound like after that. There are probably

1651
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 2: more losses to come, maybe on Sunday to UCF. And

1652
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:06,640
Speaker 2: so now what happens in the postgame has taken on

1653
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 2: a life of its own, and I you know, my

1654
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 2: first takeaway last night was like, holy crap, there aren't

1655
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 2: just one or two more games left. There's eight regular

1656
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 2: season games. There's still a month to go. But that

1657
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,640
Speaker 2: to me last night was a guy letting you and

1658
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 2: I in, I haven't gotten the job done. This is

1659
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 2: weighing on me. It kills me. I feel bad. This

1660
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 2: isn't what I intended. This isn't what I was hired

1661
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 2: to do. That's incredibly hard, and I think all that

1662
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 2: was last night was him just authoring a very human

1663
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 2: moment twenty one after five o'clock ESPN, fifteen thirty, and like,

1664
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 2: you know, what's what's next for this program is I

1665
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,599
Speaker 2: think it's a really good job in a great league.

1666
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 2: And assuming that this is it, which is one might

1667
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 2: argue unfair. I think that you see is going to

1668
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 2: be in a pretty good position relative to other times

1669
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 2: where maybe they've had a head coaching vacancy. We'll see

1670
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 2: twenty one twenty two now after five o'clock five point

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Speaker 2: three seven four nine, fifteen thirty is our phone number,

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Speaker 2: the Reds thing that I was going to get to earlier.

1673
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 2: I might move to Monday because Monday is the first

1674
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 2: day of spring training. The best four words in the

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01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 2: English language pitchers and catchers report. We do have some

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl wagers to make and do we have a

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Speaker 2: mic in LA sound alike? Mike is supposed to join

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Speaker 2: us from California, which is where he lives, but he's

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Speaker 2: going to the Super Bowl, and I believe we're going

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Speaker 2: to hear from him here shortly on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: apparently en route. Mike has gone through a lot of

1699
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 2: health challenges, served as country with great heroism. He is

1700
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:56,679
Speaker 2: apparently en route to the San Francisco area where he's

1701
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 2: gonna get a chance to go to the Super Bowl,

1702
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 2: according to him, and so that is awesome. Mike calls

1703
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 2: the show on a very very very regular basis, and

1704
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 2: so his voice is one that is very very very

1705
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 2: familiar to me, and if you're in our audience, and

1706
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 2: obviously right now you are familiar to you as well.

1707
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 2: Last night, I left Fifth Third Arena and I turned

1708
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW and Dan Carroll was on, and

1709
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 2: I honestly didn't know who was going to be on.

1710
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 2: I didn't know if they'd be talking about the basketball game.

1711
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 2: Dan was on, and he was not talking about the

1712
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:37,799
Speaker 2: basketball game. He was talking about far more serious things

1713
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 2: happening in the news and in the world, with his

1714
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 2: own special slant on those things happening in the world.

1715
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 2: What I'm about to play for you has is the

1716
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 2: content is irrelevant to this discussion. But he got a

1717
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 2: phone call, and I just wanted to play a few

1718
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 2: minutes or a few seconds of the audio because it

1719
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 2: sounded a lot like Mike calling under a different name

1720
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,679
Speaker 2: talking about something he typically wouldn't talk about on this show.

1721
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 2: Tarrean play that audio.

1722
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 14: Well, and the list of the positive effects of his

1723
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 14: immigration control program. Huh that we have the lowest murder

1724
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 14: rate in one hundred and twenty five years. They're not

1725
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:21,759
Speaker 14: emphasizing enough to positive benefits from everything he needs doing.

1726
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 14: I mean crime is going down. You know, more people

1727
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 14: are going to get work now as we send these

1728
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 14: people back to the countries they come from.

1729
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 2: Now, that guy's name last night is Ken? Is is

1730
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 2: Mike calling other non sports shows using a different name?

1731
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 14: Tarran?

1732
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:39,719
Speaker 2: Did that sound to you like Mike?

1733
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 10: That definitely sounded like Mike.

1734
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 2: It sounds like Mike, doesn't It like the the the

1735
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 2: content that they were discussing. I could not have been

1736
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 2: less interested in. But I'm listening to it, going, hey,

1737
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 2: Mike's calling. Wait, that's not Mike, but wait and then

1738
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 2: and then you know, Dan at the end of the

1739
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 2: calls like, hey Ken, thanks so much. I'm like, well,

1740
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 2: that's wait a bit at that's Ken? Is Mike Ken? Taran?

1741
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 2: Do you know you work on a lot of different shows,

1742
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 2: mainly this one obviously is Mike Ken.

1743
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 10: I can confirm that Mike is not.

1744
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 2: Can you so? Ken's his own person and Mike's his

1745
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 2: own person.

1746
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 10: Yes, But the audio we just played does sound a lot.

1747
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 2: Like Mike, give it, just give me, give me a

1748
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 2: few more seconds of quote air quotes.

1749
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 14: Ken crime is going down. You know, more people are

1750
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,679
Speaker 14: gonna get work now as we send these people back

1751
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 14: to the countries they come from. They don't talk about

1752
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 14: any of that. They allow, they allow the media just

1753
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 14: to keep spewing this propaganda left and right.

1754
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 2: Sounds like Mike to me, man, are we are we

1755
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 2: totally sure that Mike and Ken are entirely different people?

1756
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 10: I can I can confirm that, Yes.

1757
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 2: So you've now I've met, We've met Mike. Mike has

1758
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 2: come up to the station. Mike is gonna bring uh

1759
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 2: Arran the next time he's in town, or maybe he'll

1760
01:39:58,120 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 2: just mail it, but he's gonna bring him something from

1761
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 2: this super Bowl. So I've met Mike. I've not met Ken,

1762
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 2: or Mike and Ken ever been spotted together in.

1763
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 10: The same place that I can't affirm that though.

1764
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:14,639
Speaker 2: I'm driving last night from from Clifton to my favorite

1765
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 2: Thursday watering hole on the West Side, and I'm going, well, well,

1766
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 2: hang on, I feel that like Mike calls other shows,

1767
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 2: but I'm like, I feel cheated on, and Mike is

1768
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 2: like showing this showing us this other dimension that you know,

1769
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 2: obviously we do not ask him to tap into here

1770
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 2: because this is a sports, fun and game show. And

1771
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 2: then you got Mike on and he's talking about I

1772
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 2: think nationalizing voting. Again, the the content could not have

1773
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 2: been I was not in the mood to listen to

1774
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 2: any of that after watching the Bearcats blow that game

1775
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 2: last night. All right, well, hopefully Mike is having the

1776
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 2: time of his life in San Francisco. He is, I guess,

1777
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 2: going to where Radio Row is, which you know, Mike

1778
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 2: has served our country and he has been a hero,

1779
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 2: and the best we could do is Radio Row. Now,

1780
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:00,719
Speaker 2: yes he's gonna get to go to the game on Sunday.

1781
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:03,799
Speaker 2: But if you want to reward somebody for their service

1782
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 2: to the country, take them anywhere but the saddest place

1783
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 2: on earth. By the way, can I just tell you

1784
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 2: something real quick. I get to the basketball game last

1785
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 2: night and we're sitting down getting ready to go on

1786
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:18,679
Speaker 2: the air, and Dan Horde, the Great Dan Horde, looks

1787
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 2: at me and goes, what's your beef with Radio Row?

1788
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 2: Dan feels the exact opposite is I do about Radio Row?

1789
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we hope Mike has a blast at

1790
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:34,639
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl along with his other veteran friends and

1791
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 2: well deserved, and I'm sure we'll hear from him multiple

1792
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 2: times next week twenty six. Let's do some Super Bowl

1793
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Speaker 2: bets that you should make if you're inclined. On ESPN

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Speaker 2: Graham Ashcraft gonna play for the Reds. Wins is arbitration

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1811
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Speaker 2: College hoops, It's time for the unsponsored weekend tip off.

1812
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 2: This is going to be an unbelievable weekend of college basketball.

1813
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 2: You got Saint John's and Yukon tonight, which is gonna

1814
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:05,839
Speaker 2: be great. Tomorrow, Duke in Carolina, Tennessee's at Kentucky Houston,

1815
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 2: and BYU. Lots of great games. Let's go with the

1816
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 2: local ones Tonight. Dayton's at VCU. Flyers broke that four

1817
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 2: game losing streak with a win on Tuesday, not a

1818
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:20,799
Speaker 2: very convincing win over Saint Bonaventure, weird vibes at d Arena.

1819
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:26,680
Speaker 2: VCU has an outside ish chance at being an at

1820
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 2: large team in the Atlantic ten. I don't know what

1821
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 2: Dayton does well enough for any of us to believe

1822
01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 2: the Flyers can go on a late season run. Seven

1823
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 2: o'clock is a tip off tonight. Indiana's at Wisconsin. I

1824
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 2: you couldn't get over the hump in their last game

1825
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 2: against USC. Wisconsin's won seven out of eight games. I

1826
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 2: think this is a sneaky fun game. Hoosiers have gone

1827
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 2: from very much a bubble team to now one that

1828
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:52,679
Speaker 2: has some work to do, but I feel like they're

1829
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:56,759
Speaker 2: comfortably in the tournament. Miami is twenty three to zero.

1830
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 2: Ken Palm has the Righthawks winning each of their last

1831
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 2: six games games, but this is the game they view

1832
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 2: as the toughest on the road against Marshall. The Thundering

1833
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 2: Herd in Huntington are eleven and two at home. M

1834
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 2: you looking for a twenty fourth consecutive win. Hopefully they

1835
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 2: get it and they make that Arizona fan that I've

1836
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 2: been fighting with on Twitter butt hurt. Also tomorrow, NK

1837
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 2: you will host Milwaukee. That game is gonna tip off

1838
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 2: at five pm. You'll be able to listen to it

1839
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 2: live on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. You know, the Norse

1840
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 2: gotta get healthy. The winning the Horizon League regular season

1841
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 2: championship is I think, unfortunately painfully out of reach. But

1842
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 2: can they get themselves back to a place where you

1843
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 2: could legitimately consider their chances to win the Horizon League

1844
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,680
Speaker 2: Tournament in that awful arena. They play that in five

1845
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 2: o'clock tomorrow. The Norse are now six and eight in

1846
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 2: conference play. Injuries have been a factor five consecutive losses

1847
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,839
Speaker 2: after losing to Green Bay. Defense has been an issue.

1848
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 2: Tomorrow's tip off is at five o'clock Kentucky. We'll call

1849
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:07,559
Speaker 2: it a businesslike performance over Oklahoma on Wednesday night. You

1850
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 2: never felt like the game was totally out of reach

1851
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 2: for the Sooners. You also never felt like Oklahoma was

1852
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 2: going to come back and win the game. Mark Pope's

1853
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 2: team has done a nice job bouncing back, including in

1854
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 2: the game against Tennessee in Knoxville, they were down by eighteen.

1855
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 2: They'll play tomorrow at eight thirty on ESPN fifteen thirty

1856
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:27,639
Speaker 2: Ohio State and Michigan. The buck guys have a pretty

1857
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 2: fun team to watch. Bruce Thornton's one of those guys.

1858
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 2: Feels like he's been in college since Chris gent was

1859
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 2: playing in Columbus. Michigan won the first game in ann

1860
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 2: Arbor a couple of weeks ago. The Wolverines pasted Penn

1861
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 2: State last night. I feel like this is weird though,

1862
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 2: the second ranked team in the country almost flying slightly

1863
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 2: under the radar. Tomorrow at one o'clock in Columbus, a

1864
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 2: chance for an emphatic, an emphatic statement for the Buckeyes.

1865
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 2: Cincinnati lost the first game to you. Knights are having

1866
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 2: a good season but got crushed in their last game

1867
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 2: against Houston. No big deal, that's Houston. Can the Bearcats

1868
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 2: bounce back at home? Two o'clock is the tip off

1869
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 2: on Sunday. You'll hear it on seven hundred W L W. Terren.

1870
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:14,679
Speaker 2: How are we on time?

1871
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 10: We're good on time? Quickly? Can we mentioned tonight's thriller

1872
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 10: of a high school game between between Lakota West and

1873
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 10: Princeton that had to get moved to Cintas Center.

1874
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 2: They can move to Cintas Center. I saw that, Yes,

1875
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 2: is the Centas Center going to be sold out?

1876
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 10: It's gonna be Damn you're sold out? Wow, I thought

1877
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 10: you were.

1878
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to talk about the big

1879
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 2: till to top the Eastern Conference in the NBA, where Detroit

1880
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 2: loses as a sixteen and a half point dog last night,

1881
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 2: obviously looking ahead to the Knicks, who come to town

1882
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:49,719
Speaker 2: tonight in a battle of well. The Knicks and Celtics

1883
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 2: are currently tied for the two seed, both trailing Detroit.

1884
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:56,519
Speaker 2: A rematch of last year's thrilling first round series won

1885
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:58,800
Speaker 2: by New York. I thought that's what you were referencing.

1886
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 10: Oh no, no, no, no, high school teams from Love Too.

1887
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:07,720
Speaker 2: I got it. No, no, no question, Thank you, thank

1888
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 2: you for for doing that. Do we is Mike standing by?

1889
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 10: Yeah? Pee there?

1890
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:15,679
Speaker 2: All right? Uh, we'll do Mike for a few minutes,

1891
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 2: and then we got some bets to get to Mike.

1892
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:20,600
Speaker 2: Are you have you arrived in San Francisco?

1893
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 11: Well, we got a late start today because one of

1894
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 11: the guys I had a scary situation, so we couldn't

1895
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 11: leave till too late, So I don't get to go

1896
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:34,640
Speaker 11: to Radio Row. And I wanted to do that so

1897
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 11: bad so I could bust your you know what about it.

1898
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 11: But anyway, I I didn't get to go. Well, we're

1899
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:44,720
Speaker 11: still not there yet. We're just passed Big Sur on

1900
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 11: the way up to Monterey. So when you get the

1901
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 11: Big Sur along the cliffs there on Pacific Coast Highway,

1902
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 11: reception is almost negligible.

1903
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 2: Understand, were listening to the show? Were you listening to

1904
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,559
Speaker 2: the show's twenty minutes ago when we played a caller

1905
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 2: who sounds just like you?

1906
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 11: No, I wasn't.

1907
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:08,720
Speaker 2: Is there any chance for calling other shows? Under a

1908
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 2: different name.

1909
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 11: Why no, why would I do that? I don't listen, brother,

1910
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 11: I haven't called anything but the sports talk show. About

1911
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 11: thirty years ago. I used to call Bill Cunynham when

1912
01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 11: he was on at night, oh up until tender midnight

1913
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 11: or something. But no, I don't even have you were

1914
01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 11: So what are you talking about?

1915
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 2: There's a I was listening to h w l W

1916
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 2: last night on my way back from my way back

1917
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:41,640
Speaker 2: to the West Side from the UC game, and I

1918
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 2: heard a caller to Dan Carroll's show who sounded like you,

1919
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 2: but his name was Ken, and I just wanted to

1920
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 2: make sure that was if an issue, that's okay, But

1921
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:52,360
Speaker 2: I didn't know if you were like, you know what.

1922
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 2: I call sports shows as Mike, but I call political

1923
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 2: shows as Ken.

1924
01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:00,040
Speaker 11: Who in the hell's Dan? What's his? Dan Carroll? I

1925
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 11: don't even know who you're talking about.

1926
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:05,680
Speaker 2: That's okay, irrelevant. So are you? Are you riding in

1927
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 2: a bus? Are you in a are you in a van?

1928
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 2: What kind of car are you in right now?

1929
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:09,720
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1930
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:13,880
Speaker 11: We're in really tricked out van. Really nice man. It's

1931
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:17,639
Speaker 11: got a full bar, but we can't really do much

1932
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 11: with the bar. But we're We're like.

1933
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 2: How does a van how does a van have a

1934
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 2: full bar?

1935
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 11: It's a big van though, I think twenty feet long.

1936
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:29,640
Speaker 2: And and how many people are how many people are

1937
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:31,160
Speaker 2: in how many people are in the van?

1938
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:36,639
Speaker 11: On? Only four veterans? That's it in the driver? Yeah, yeah,

1939
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 11: that's really comfortable. I feel like I'm in a rock

1940
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 11: and roll band, you know, from kind.

1941
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 10: Of nice special Nice?

1942
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:47,680
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1943
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 2: Can you have everybody yell? Can you have everybody yell? High?

1944
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 7: Guy?

1945
01:49:58,280 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 12: No, I got on the radio.

1946
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 14: You listen.

1947
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 11: You're talking about eighty year old veterans.

1948
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 2: Here, You're you're you're in a movie. You're in a

1949
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 2: moving van right now. You're on the phone, and and

1950
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:13,720
Speaker 2: everybody else is.

1951
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 11: Two guys are sleeping and one guy, Mo is pretty

1952
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 11: out of it. Okay, you don't understand the condition of.

1953
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 14: River.

1954
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 11: The only one that has I'm the only one that

1955
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 11: is coaching. What about the driver, Well, the driver was

1956
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 11: walled off from us. Oh god ready, ready any time

1957
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 11: around because you pat highway. You ever been on the position? Yeah,

1958
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 11: it's very scary. It's right on the cliffs and if

1959
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 11: the guy steers off the wrong way, we're going over

1960
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 11: into the Pacific Ocean. Big time. So I'm sorry I

1961
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 11: can't entertain you with that, but I just can't put

1962
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 11: it the day where it's getting late in the day.

1963
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 11: These guys are old, no on the youngest one of

1964
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:05,600
Speaker 11: the bunch.

1965
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 2: I understand, but it's two forty eight in the afternoon there, Mike.

1966
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 11: Well once the last time you were eighty something years

1967
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 11: old and sick with cancer and dying. Okay, I've just

1968
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:18,280
Speaker 11: talked to you know.

1969
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, I'm just trying to I'm trying

1970
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 2: to maximize the radio. Well that's probably not attainable, but yes,

1971
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:30,720
Speaker 2: in a roundabout way, who do you think is gonna

1972
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:31,719
Speaker 2: win the game on Sunday.

1973
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 11: I'm sorry to disappoint you, I really am, but these

1974
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 11: guys are are dearer than me. You know, I'm not

1975
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 11: gonna disc first. Yeah, I got Seattle of thirty one fourteen.

1976
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:48,639
Speaker 11: They're gonna smack smack and the ring on around big time.

1977
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 14: I got there, I got uh.

1978
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:56,200
Speaker 11: I hear all these people saying twenty seven, twenty four,

1979
01:51:56,320 --> 01:52:06,560
Speaker 11: twenty one, seventeen, sixteen, thirteen. No, no, well you.

1980
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 2: Will you email me a picture of you guys from

1981
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 2: the game.

1982
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I'll be happy to do. Karen Karen before

1983
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 11: Mo gets rid of me. What what is your hat? Guyes?

1984
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:18,599
Speaker 11: Because the best hats are not the adjustable one? So

1985
01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 11: what's your hat?

1986
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 10: Guys?

1987
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 11: I've gotten it for you, but that was two years ago.

1988
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 10: I sent you. I sent you an email.

1989
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:24,720
Speaker 11: Mike.

1990
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, gonna get a hat. And then you're gonna

1991
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 2: You're gonna buy the other guys like pretzels and stuff.

1992
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 11: Right, Oh dude, I'll listen my buddies. Oh, I'll spend

1993
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:40,840
Speaker 11: a lot of money on my friends, believe me, because

1994
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 11: they're dear to me, very very dear to me, because

1995
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:46,559
Speaker 11: they gave their boy for this country and they deserve

1996
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 11: everything they get.

1997
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 2: Well, you're you're a good mom. Well, Mike, have have

1998
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:53,679
Speaker 2: a blast. It's it's well deserved. And uh, well, I'm sure.

1999
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll hear from you next week.

2000
01:52:57,560 --> 01:52:59,680
Speaker 11: No, no, you're gonna hear from me. I'm gonna text you.

2001
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 11: I'm to drive you nuts over the weekend, texting you email.

2002
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 11: And you know I won't do that.

2003
01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say a couple.

2004
01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 11: Well, maybe I won't. Maybe I won't send you anything.

2005
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 11: I'll just talk to you.

2006
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:14,720
Speaker 2: I need well either way, whatever you know, Hey, look don't.

2007
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 2: Don't make me a priority while you're having a good time.

2008
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 2: But i'd love to see a photo of you guys

2009
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:19,559
Speaker 2: at the super Bowl.

2010
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 11: Yeah. These guys are characters, man, I'll tell you they're

2011
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 11: tough old birds of really tough guys.

2012
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2013
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 11: Okay, So you don't want anything. You want me to

2014
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 11: do some stuff for other people, and.

2015
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 2: I want you to take in lieu of buying me

2016
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 2: some Super Bowl swag, I want you to take whatever

2017
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 2: that money was, and I want you to I want

2018
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 2: you to take care of the people you're with, take

2019
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 2: care of the driver, take care of the other veterans

2020
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 2: at the game with you, and buy them something. Okay.

2021
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 11: I already took care of the driver. I gave him

2022
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:49,639
Speaker 11: two hundred.

2023
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 2: Wow, pretty good. All right, Well we'll do that for

2024
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 2: the other guys. But I got to run, man, Okay.

2025
01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 11: Well, you taught me how to gamble properly, so I

2026
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 11: can do that kind of thing.

2027
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 2: All right. Well, have have fun, Mike, Thanks, thanks, thanks,

2028
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 2: thanks very much. All right, couple for the game itself.

2029
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 2: I'm with Mike. I'm laying the number with Seattle. I

2030
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 2: don't think the Patriots can stop him on the ground.

2031
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 2: I think New England's defense. The inflated postseason numbers are

2032
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 2: due to the fact that they've played bad offenses and

2033
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 2: weather has been a factor. You're not gonna have CJ.

2034
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:27,879
Speaker 2: Stroud throwing the game. You're not gonna have U Jared Stidham.

2035
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 2: I'll take Seattle. I'll lay the number. Jackson Smith and

2036
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 2: Jigba fourth player since the eighties to lead the league

2037
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 2: in receiving yards then play in the Super Bowl. The

2038
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 2: previous three Jerry Rice in eighty nine, Jerry Rice in

2039
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 2: ninety four, Cooper Cup in twenty twenty one, each had

2040
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 2: big games. By the way to be the MVP of

2041
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl at wide receiver, here are the last

2042
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 2: three yardage totals one forty three, ninety two. It's attainable

2043
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 2: JSN plus five point fifty to be the game's MVP.

2044
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 2: George Holdany over nine and a half rushing yards. AJ

2045
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 2: Barner this is my favorite one. Anytime TV score, they

2046
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 2: use him in the red zone and he is their

2047
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 2: tush push guy. Which is why we're also going shortest

2048
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:14,080
Speaker 2: touchdown in the game. Every Super Bowl we bet on

2049
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 2: an octopus, which is player scores a touchdown, then the

2050
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 2: two point conversion you can buy that at plus fifteen hundred.

2051
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:24,640
Speaker 2: There have been twenty three touchdowns scored by defenses in

2052
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 2: Super Bowl history, twenty of them by the winning team.

2053
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 2: If you think Seattle's gonna win, have Seattle's defense to

2054
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 2: score a touchdown. If you think it's New England, have

2055
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:36,600
Speaker 2: the Patriots defense to score a touchdown. We steer clear

2056
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 2: of parlays, but you can go Seattle defense anytime touchdown

2057
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 2: and Seattle money line. That's a great value parlay, even

2058
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 2: more so for New England if you think the Patriots win.

2059
01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:50,839
Speaker 2: We're back Monday at three h five. Thank you for listening,

2060
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 2: Thanks to Tarren Blandford producing, and we'll talk to you Monday.

2061
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 2: Have an awesome weekend. This is ESPN fifteen to thirty,

2062
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 3: Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 6: Accident, and it's on Sdavenue at Chickering Avenue southbound seventy one.

2070
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 6: A little bit of slow traffic between Ronald Reagan Highway

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Speaker 6: and the Red Bank Road. Minute or two worth of

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Speaker 6: delays southbound two seventy five. Only one lane open anty

2073
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Speaker 6: Carol Cropper Bridge on at Eazelic with traffic.

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