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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI. AM six forty on demand.

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Speaker 2: Hey there, Chris Merrill, I am six forty more stimulating

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Speaker 2: talk You guys are fun. You guys are a blast.

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Speaker 2: Some more people giving us talkbacks. By the way, I

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Speaker 2: do listen to all the talkbacks. They don't all make

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Speaker 2: it out of the air, but I do listen to

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Speaker 2: all of them. I will say this. There we were

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Speaker 2: a few people who were listening to the last segment

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Speaker 2: where Nicky was giving her thoughts on immigration as Carolyn

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Speaker 2: Livitt's nephews. Well, I guess it's her brother's baby, Mama,

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Speaker 2: it's been obtained by ice. She was a doctor recipient

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Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety eight, And so some other people were

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Speaker 2: They were not very kind to me because I was

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Speaker 2: pushing back on some of the things that Nicki said,

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Speaker 2: and then some people pushing back Nikki.

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Speaker 3: But you gotta be nice. You gotta be nice to Nikki.

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Speaker 3: That's the rule. You can come at me, you can

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Speaker 3: come at me. You have to be nice to Nicky.

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Speaker 3: Where are we in society to exactly where?

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Speaker 4: For me?

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Speaker 3: I'm a man, I'm a man. I think it's funny.

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Speaker 5: What absolutely phenomenal you are. Funny you're intelligent, you're witty.

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Speaker 5: Don't listen to these awful people who call in or trolls.

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Speaker 5: I think you are very handsome too. I looked you up,

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Speaker 5: big Teddy Bear.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's your wife.

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Speaker 5: No, thank you for being on the air. You're my favorite.

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Speaker 2: That's right. It's not my wife. No, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: send that to my wife. Nothing makes her hotter than

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Speaker 2: thinking somebody.

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Speaker 3: Else likes me. Oh god, that is the best.

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Speaker 2: That's how that works. Oh, it is so how it works.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love it so much. I'm gonna send it

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Speaker 2: to her.

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Speaker 3: Let me see. Hey, babe, she's like, yeah, like that.

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna play the talk back from my fan? No? No,

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Speaker 3: because they ever mean to you. I'm not gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's funny pull him out.

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Speaker 2: Nope, nope, No, we're not doxing anybody.

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Speaker 3: I am not doing that stuff. Come on, what's mad

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Speaker 3: with you? A doxing people?

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Speaker 1: He called me, he called me britt, he called two

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Speaker 1: of them called me brit.

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Speaker 3: And how does Olie feel about that? As the actual

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Speaker 3: British person? Yeah, like, how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 3: You should take that as a compliment. That's pretty that's

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Speaker 3: pretty funny. I kind of like that. All right, let's

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Speaker 3: move on. Speaking of trolls.

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Speaker 2: Uh So, the Democrats in the Senate were trolling the

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Speaker 2: President when they put out the video saying that you

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Speaker 2: can't you shouldn't follow illegal orders, which look duh, but

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Speaker 2: they knew it was going to bug the president and

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Speaker 2: then the rather than the President saying, yeah, I agree,

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't follow illegal orders, but on the Comander in chief,

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Speaker 2: I'm not giving you illegal orders. And these Democrats are

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Speaker 2: just trying to stir the pot, and it would have

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Speaker 2: been done, but he didn't. He took the bait, and

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Speaker 2: then he said the seditious behavior punishable by death of

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Speaker 2: these Democratic senators. And so then of course they started

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Speaker 2: getting death threats, and so we got the audio of

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Speaker 2: the death threats to the senators, and these people seem.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 4: I hope whoever mows your brains out records it, because

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Speaker 4: I would like to watch you speak what a loser

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Speaker 4: you are.

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Speaker 3: And Kerry and select Ken, I think it's Slotkin. I

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Speaker 3: think he mispronounced it. Hey, let's listen again, Select Ken.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm pretty sure it's slot Can I think you

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Speaker 2: mispronounced that. Yeah, I think it's at least a slot kin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah what we called her the C word. Oh this

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Speaker 2: is better than being called a bread but still not great.

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Speaker 4: You to die. I hope you all get murdered. I

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Speaker 4: hope you all get throat flashed.

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Speaker 3: He just wow, he seems easily upset. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I bet there's nothing else going on in his life.

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Speaker 2: That's that's bothering him?

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Speaker 3: Is he single? Wow?

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Speaker 2: She loves the red flags? Okay, next one. This, this

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Speaker 2: is a god fearing gentleman.

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Speaker 4: You disgrace American and I'll pray you go and David,

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Speaker 4: not before your family does.

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Speaker 2: Wow. I pray you die today, but not before your

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Speaker 2: family does. He's probably just being hyperbolic. He probably is

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Speaker 2: not actually trying to invoke the wrath of God on

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Speaker 2: someone who simply said you should follow the law.

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Speaker 6: I pray they die painful death.

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Speaker 2: Again, I'm sure it's hyperbolic that it's not that he's

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Speaker 2: not actually praying for someone's family to die of painful death. Hey,

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Speaker 2: a blessed day. Oh okay, Yeah, it's nice to see

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Speaker 2: people taking the high road like that.

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Speaker 3: That's good. Okay, all right, Oh there's.

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Speaker 4: More if they do that day, Yeah, rest to sure,

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Speaker 4: I'll be in church just someday, because.

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Speaker 2: I guess he was serious about invoking prayer to try

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Speaker 2: to do. But at least he wasn't swearing like the

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Speaker 2: last guy, right, I mean he wasn't. It wasn't like

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Speaker 2: calling people the sea word and and the F word

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Speaker 2: and everything else.

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Speaker 4: You worthless play?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 7: All right? Right, so did that? I got that going

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Speaker 7: for you? Well, Chris, this is a teaching moment. Those

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Speaker 7: are known as imprecatory prayers. Just if you want to

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Speaker 7: throw those around. Never heard that it's important to use

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Speaker 7: the right terminology when you're wishing someone ory, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I love this. You did learn me something today. There

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Speaker 3: you go. Good.

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Speaker 5: I have somebody kills you with your whole.

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Speaker 4: Family and regal alien. I hope they kill you and

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Speaker 4: your whole family. So you're letting them in a country,

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Speaker 4: you scummy American. You're a communist, you Jason Crow, you scummy.

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Speaker 3: Little Okay, So.

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Speaker 2: That seems great, Yeah, all right, doesn't like communists unless

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Speaker 2: it's Bumdanni in the Oval office and then everything gets

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Speaker 2: along really well.

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Speaker 3: So now the president has struck back as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're aware. And now it looks like we

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Speaker 2: are going to have an investigation. The FBI is now

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Speaker 2: asking to interview the Democrats that were in that video.

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Speaker 2: The President's asked the DOJ to investigate Senator Mark Kelly,

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Speaker 2: a former Navy pilot and astronaut, and then it could

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Speaker 2: be it could go so poorly for Mark Kelly that

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Speaker 2: they actually recall him to active duty so that he

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Speaker 2: can be court martialed. Secretary of Defense beat hegxith or

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Speaker 2: War Secretary if you use the current terminology, refer to

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Speaker 2: the video participants as the seditious six. Mark Kelly's being

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Speaker 2: singled out by the Department of Defense or Department of War,

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Speaker 2: depending on whether you want to be official or not,

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Speaker 2: because he's the only veteran of the group who falls

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Speaker 2: under Hegsith's jurisdiction. Secretary exists. Oh hang on, that was

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Speaker 2: his response. I gotta I gotta find this because I was.

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Speaker 2: According to some experts, they say that he didn't break

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Speaker 2: the law by stating that members of the military can

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Speaker 2: refuse illegal orders, which is actually just restating the law. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: here we go. According to the Department of War on

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Speaker 2: x I guess the official communication platform. A thorough review

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Speaker 2: of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions,

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Speaker 2: which may include recall to active duty for court martial

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Speaker 2: proceedings or administrative measures. So here's what I think is

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Speaker 2: really fascinating about all of us. I think none of

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Speaker 2: us believe that that there's going to be a court

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Speaker 2: martial when you have a sitting senator. By the way,

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Speaker 2: isn't there such a thing as senatorial immunity? I mean,

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Speaker 2: you have presidential immunity, right, can't you have like some

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Speaker 2: sort of a congressional immunity things that you say in

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Speaker 2: the process of doing your job. I'm pretty sure there's

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Speaker 2: a law about that. But anyway, just the same, you

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Speaker 2: have a freedom of speech. They didn't say anything that

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Speaker 2: was defamatory or wrong or insightful. I mean, it's pretty

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Speaker 2: well protected speech. So the investigation itself is is performative

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Speaker 2: as much as the original video was absolutely performative, and

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Speaker 2: it was meant to just sort of poke the bear.

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Speaker 2: President Trump had two ways that he could go on it,

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Speaker 2: and he took kind of the way that I think

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Speaker 2: we expected him to take, and that is that he

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Speaker 2: takes the bait and he goes, I'm gonna lash out.

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Speaker 2: You want to poke the bear? You're getting the bear right.

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Speaker 2: Don't mess with the bull son, you're going to get

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Speaker 2: the horns. And I think this could end up backfiring.

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Speaker 2: And I think there may be members of the GOP

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Speaker 2: strategic the party strategic group here that might be saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 2: this is starting to get out of control. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to tell you why this could protent eventually backfire. Well,

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Speaker 2: for all I know, we're in the upside down. All

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Speaker 2: I know, we end up hanging these guys out in

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Speaker 2: the public square. Although with Mark Kelly, I think probably

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Speaker 2: launching him into space without a spacesuit would be a

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Speaker 2: better way.

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Speaker 3: To go, I mean fitting.

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Speaker 2: So you'll find out why this political theater could end

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Speaker 2: up backfiring, and members of the GOP might be saying, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 2: hang on here, we just we just we just grabbed

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Speaker 2: defeat from the jaws of victory. We'll find out why

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Speaker 2: that is.

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Speaker 2: Instead, let's talk about who's watching you. You think you're

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Speaker 1: Merril, you're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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Speaker 2: Chris Merril kfi am six forty more stimulating talk. Oh

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Speaker 2: I love that excess on one of the great Australian bands.

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Speaker 3: I I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: When I'm being suspected of doing something wrong without any

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Speaker 2: evidence other than just simply my my normal behavior. Well,

437
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Speaker 2: your behavior seemed weird, and weird is suspicious, and suspicious

438
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Speaker 2: should be investigated.

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Speaker 4: And I get it.

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Speaker 2: Look if if I'm if I'm hanging out in a

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Speaker 2: in a CD part of town and i'm and I

442
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Speaker 2: see a police car and I turn around and I

443
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Speaker 2: start walking the other way, I get it.

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Speaker 3: That's suspicious. I get it.

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Speaker 2: But if I'm simply avoiding the freeway and taking surface streets,

446
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Speaker 2: is that enough to be considered suspicious? If I'm traveling,

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Speaker 2: for instance, I lived in San Diego, And if I'm

448
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Speaker 2: traveling on the eight, which goes down you know, by

449
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Speaker 2: camp and who come to Hot Springs, and you're near

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Speaker 2: the border, or you continue on a little further and

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Speaker 2: you get near Mexicale Cawlexico area or Yuma. Even there

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Speaker 2: you are and you're near the border, and I gotta

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Speaker 2: tell you, I used to do that trip back and

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Speaker 2: forth twice a week.

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Speaker 3: That would probably be considered suspicious, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm driving back and forth from the border

457
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Speaker 2: city into a major city a couple times a week,

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Speaker 2: that would be suspicious. But the truth was, I was

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Speaker 2: driving between I had two jobs. I won in San

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Speaker 2: Diego and won in Phoenix, and I kept driving between

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Speaker 2: the two. My wife and daughter were in San Diego

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Speaker 2: while she graduated high school, and I was working in

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Speaker 2: Phoenix and in San Diego. I had a job. I

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Speaker 2: was doing two shows, so I was back and forth

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Speaker 2: all the time. I wasn't doing anything wrong. So why

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Speaker 2: is that considered suspicious? If you're a truck driver and

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Speaker 2: you're crossing the border constantly and maybe you find it.

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Speaker 2: You found an alternate route that allows you to avoid, say,

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Speaker 2: delays at a border checkpoint, and so you took that

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Speaker 2: hitting a quieter border checkpoint, for instance. Is that suspicious?

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Speaker 2: So that's where I'm a little bit concerned. I don't

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Speaker 2: like the idea of perfectly reasonable behavior considered to be suspicious. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: there's not a whole lot that either one of us

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Speaker 2: can do about it, but you need to be aware.

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Speaker 2: You just need to be aware of what's going on,

476
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Speaker 2: and you need to decide do I like the idea

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Speaker 2: that the government is watching me? Do I trust the government,

478
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 2: because even people say they never trust the government, all

479
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: of a sudden trust the government in certain scenarios, and

480
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Speaker 2: people that say that I trust the government implicitly, all

481
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: of a sudden don't trust the government, usually when that's

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Speaker 2: somebody from the other party that it's elected, that all

483
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: of a sudden they don't trust the government. Wasn't it

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Speaker 2: Reagan that said the most terrifying words are I'm here

485
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Speaker 2: from the government and I'm here to help, right paraphrasing,

486
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: probably slaughtered the quote, but you get the point. So

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00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: do you trust government implicitly or or are you a

488
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Speaker 2: little worried when they start collecting data and watching your

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Speaker 2: driving habits. You know what kind of car you drive,

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Speaker 2: they know how fast you drive, they know when you drive,

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Speaker 2: to pick up on your patterns, just feels very big

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Speaker 2: Brother to me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, scroll social media thinking the voices that you.

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Speaker 2: Hear your neighbors or your friends, and they're sharing real takes,

495
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: but they're not what you're really seeing could be far

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00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: more sinister, and they're treating you like you're dumb. But

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Speaker 2: are you that's next? Chris Merrill.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand.

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Speaker 2: And Chris Merril Am sixty on demand anytime in the

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Speaker 2: iHeart Radio app still to come. I'm uh some heartbreaking news.

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Speaker 2: We'll give you this coming up here on the nine

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Speaker 2: o'clock hour and really terrifying it. Being a celebrity doesn't

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Speaker 2: protect you from creeps. I'll tell you what to what's

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Speaker 2: going on there? My friends from the.

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Speaker 6: Talkbacks, Hey Chris, Hey Scott, Hey Scott, your show is

506
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Speaker 6: so good that I don't know if you're a conservative

507
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 6: or liberal? And I like that. Thank you and keep

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00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 6: it up, man.

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Speaker 2: I like it all right there you go. Appreciate it,

510
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: my friend, It's very good. That's what I go for.

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00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: I go for political ambiguity. That's really what I'm down for. Yeah,

512
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: call it like you see it, you know, good, bad,

513
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 2: whatever it is. I get both sides of the arguments.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing. If all of a sudden you

515
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 2: feel like somebody's out to get you, you've basically become

516
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: like a tool for your side, you know, like of

517
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you start adopting all that mob thing, Like,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, are you thinking for yourself? If all

519
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: of a sudden you find you agree with everything, then

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00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: you have to wonder do I or is it that

521
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: someone else is telling me what I want to hear.

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00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: You know, that's why I don't trust any of the politicians.

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Speaker 2: I don't trust any of them, and I definitely don't

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Speaker 2: trust whoever I think he's the mob. Oh yeah, oh

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Speaker 2: they all agree with me. I know it because I

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Speaker 2: see all my friends online. Well, first of all, you've

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Speaker 2: been fed the algorithm. Second of all, who are these

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00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: friends online? According to two X, they're not who you

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Speaker 2: think they are.

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Speaker 9: All right, there's a new feature on the social media

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Speaker 9: X that's causing some concern over the legitimacy of popular

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Speaker 9: political accounts. The update, called about this account allows users

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Speaker 9: to see where the account was created, where it's based,

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Speaker 9: and if the username has been shaned now after the future?

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Speaker 3: All right, I get that that makes sense was rolled

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Speaker 3: out this weekend.

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Speaker 9: Ex users, Many conservative and MAGA associated accounts with tens

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Speaker 9: of thousands of followers turned out to be based in

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Speaker 9: other countries.

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Speaker 3: So let's bring in CBS News contributor. Now, I don't

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Speaker 3: want to do that. I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: So the investigative reporting shows that the American style polarized

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00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: content has become a global side hustle. Now get this.

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Speaker 2: Here's where you put things together. How do we animate people?

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00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: And now the report that they just gave you from

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Speaker 2: CBS News, that is the MAGA accounts, and that's going

547
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: to be because it's on x okay. X has been

548
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: catering to the conservative minds for a long time. You

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00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: may find a similar situation a more liberal catering social media.

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Speaker 2: But investigative reporting shows that the American style polarized content

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00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: has become a global side hustle. So you've got creators

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Speaker 2: in India, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Russia and more, and they are

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Speaker 2: producing content that has aimed at US audiences. It is

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Speaker 2: not even necessarily part of some sort of a Russian.

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Speaker 3: Intelligence scheme. It might just be because.

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Speaker 2: Clicks in the US pay more, So they're gonna write

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Speaker 2: things that are gonna get clicked and retweeted, and they're

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Speaker 2: gonna do it in the country that pays the most

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Speaker 2: for clicks and retweets.

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Speaker 3: So how do I do this?

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Speaker 2: You elicit in emotional response, You fire somebody up, you

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Speaker 2: give them something that they want to share. I have

563
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Speaker 2: to spread this news. Truth be damned. I gotta spread

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Speaker 2: the news. The people who are creating this content don't

565
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Speaker 2: even care if it's factual as long as it gets

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Speaker 2: you fired up, because if you're fired up, you click

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Speaker 2: on it, and then the algorithm gets you, and then

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Speaker 2: their stuff continues to show up. The goal is in truth,

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Speaker 2: it's all about engagement and rage division. They all perform

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Speaker 2: better on the clicks in the retweets, and so the

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Speaker 2: monetization program is incentivizing.

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Speaker 3: That behavior.

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Speaker 2: So an account claiming to be a US America First

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Speaker 2: Voice was shown by X and theyre knew about this

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Speaker 2: account page to be based in a country like Bangladesh

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Speaker 2: or Thailand.

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Speaker 3: This is from a business insider.

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Speaker 2: Platforms like X were built to reward the systems for

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Speaker 2: content that grabs attention quickly, often without regard for truth.

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Speaker 3: And so we have monetized this outrage.

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Speaker 2: And you might argue, look, talk radio has been monetizing

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Speaker 2: outrage for years. I'd be hard pressed to argue with

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Speaker 2: you on that. We're very good at it. We found

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Speaker 2: out a long time ago. It makes money in the

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Speaker 2: same way that nineteen nineties Morning Zoo Radio figured out

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Speaker 2: ways to monetize and get ears on people acting zany.

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00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 3: Right, it became pass but they were acting zany.

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00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: So these different content creators online now found the next

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Speaker 2: the next avenue to do that. But there are any guardrails.

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Speaker 2: So is it a surprise. I don't think you can

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Speaker 2: say it's a surprise. I will add this one caveat

592
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: to it, though, is that I don't know how accurate

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Speaker 2: X's about this page account is. First, there have been

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Speaker 2: some there were some questions about even US government based pages,

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Speaker 2: and X had to come out and say, you know,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, you know there were there are a

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Speaker 2: small number of the about this that got things wrong. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So that's the first thing. Second of all, if you

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Speaker 2: are a divisive author and you're using X as your avenue,

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Speaker 2: I would also say it's probably quite plausible that you

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Speaker 2: would be using a VPN because you don't want people

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00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: tracking your location, because you don't want to be docksed.

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Speaker 2: So before we jump to the conclusion that everything is

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Speaker 2: this bot farming, rage farming kind of thing, I do

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Speaker 2: want to make sure we add those caveats that there

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Speaker 2: may be a reason for it showing up somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: There's my disclosure. I don't want to talk about politics anymore. Mark,

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Speaker 2: Can I move off of politics?

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Speaker 3: You're good?

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Speaker 2: With that, I beg you to thank God. All right,

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00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: let's do this. Let's talk about people dying. Well, that's uplifting, right.

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Speaker 2: You turn on the music to feel something, and then

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Speaker 2: on the radio you hear a voice. It's a voice

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Speaker 2: you're never gonna forget. And now you get news at that,

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Speaker 2: you get news about that voice. It's gonna make your

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Speaker 2: day a little darker, little rainier, a little less sunshiny.

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Speaker 3: It's next Chris

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Speaker 1: Merril KFI AM six forty on demand