WEBVTT - 11-12-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.400 Don't want to be an American idiot. 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:06.240 It's a Scott Flung show on seven hundred WLW. We're 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:08.520 going to jump right into this one. This it took 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:10.360 me and I think a lot of people by surprise. 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.920 So remember that new intoxicating Hemp law that the state 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:18.520 went through, and it was taking the THHC and condensing 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:20.560 it and putting it in things like well adult beverages, 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.520 and okay, that was good. And then the wine comes 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.440 in ninety day ban he shuts it down to protect 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.280 the children, and then it's back on again following a 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.240 court injunction. Then a finally new legislation comes down from 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.360 the Ohio General Assembly. It fixes the issue. And then 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:38.239 news broke literally just the other day of a day 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.080 or two ago, that it's now in jeopardy becoming illegal 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:45.240 because of Congress in Ohio's new intoxicating hemp laws and 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.519 jeopardy after the Senate block ran Paul's amendment. And you 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:50.840 heard some of that audio there and news helping makes 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.000 sense of it this morning. Is the architect of Ohio's 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.440 law in this and that would be State Senator Steve 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:56.880 Hoffman from Tip City. 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:00.000 Welcome, good morning, Good morning. I hope you're doing well. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:03.240 I'd be doing better if we had an answer to this. 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.080 Were you caught off guard by this as well? 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:10.080 Yeah, I mean we were, you know, the House after 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:13.600 the injunction and you know, the House acted on the 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:18.520 Lady six. We didn't agree on some things. So we 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.720 were preparing for conference committee and you know named the 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:25.959 chairman of the Conference Committee, and we're setting you know, 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:27.880 some times to get together and all of a sudden 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:32.120 this came down that caught us by surprise, and we 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:33.160 got to deal with it now. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:37.640 Yeah, and THHU, THC and fused beverages are the fastest 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.000 growing segment when it comes to adult drinks. I mean 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.440 the craft beer movement. I just saw the Business Curves 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.040 headline the other day about it's over for craft beer 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.320 and now it's all THC product. People go, adults going 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.480 to bars and buying this stuff. And then we had 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.360 Dwin's ban and that was in Jeffary. The court steps 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:56.280 in and fortunately you led legislation to fix this thing 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.040 to allow that to be sold and it seems to 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.120 be working pretty well and there's no hiccup there. And 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.280 now the United States government's getting often they want to 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.240 go back to the way it was before and completely 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:09.320 banning this stuff. And it's all behind Mitch McConnell, who 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.480 is leading the restrictions on this one. What why now, 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:14.480 you know? 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.600 I think going back to twenty eighteen to the Farm 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:22.800 Bill that legalized HAMP and then with my bill in Ohio, 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:27.280 we followed very quickly on HAMP and we were all 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.840 looking at industrial hemp on what you could do with 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:33.840 it with clothing and straws in industrial use. We weren't 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:35.560 looking at this. We knew that it was a very 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.160 small part, but didn't know that it would take off 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:42.040 like this. And I think, you know, Mitch McConnell, who 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:46.320 you know, it's a big industry in Kentucky, was pushing 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.880 for it, and he realizes that there's some bad actors 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.360 and we should have done things differently in twenty eighteen. 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:54.920 I'm not going to say we shouldn't have outlawed it. 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.040 We should have put some regulations in to start with. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:02:59.080 We didn't. 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.800 And now I think it's kind of going to the 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.320 extreme at this point. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.040 Yeah, because the hemp industry is saying that this basically 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.800 would eliminate ninety five percent of what is now almost 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.919 a thirty billion dollar industry and some three hundred thousand jobs. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:15.440 And that twenty eight billion is just a tip of 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.200 the iceberg that's going to increase tenfold in the next 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.640 number of years because people are liking the thh in 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:24.760 fuse drinks more than just traditional alcohol with you know, 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.000 it has the same effect. And I'm not sure what's 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.200 driving Mitch McConnell on this one, because he's worried about 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.320 the children. But we're back to that argument again that 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.640 Governor DeWine used in order to put leverage on the 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.600 General Assembly, which I understood the politics of that. I 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.280 hate when politicians use it to protect the children. But 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.440 Mitch McConnell's doing that again. Is this headed the same way. 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.520 Eventually we'll come up with a compromise here and this 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.200 will not be as bad as we are guessing it 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:48.800 is right now. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.560 You know, I can't tell you for sure now. I mean, 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.120 in the state of Ohio, we looked at it. The 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.680 industry said, hey, look, we know that there's bad actors, 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.120 we know that bad stuff go on, but we're the 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.240 good guys people that were doing it. 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:04.240 You know, keep it. 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.960 Twenty one and over and things like that said, highly 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.520 regulate us, you know, and it's not very often an 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:15.080 industry comes to government says, we want more regulations on us. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.200 And that was the path that we were going down 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.760 in Ohio, trying to get into some a good position, 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.400 and all of a sudden this came up. So I think, 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:28.880 if there's a path to good regulations that the industry 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.680 is asking for, it can still be a viable business. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.880 The legislation, would you know, Ohio's legs, the one you 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.159 propose is five milligrams TC beverage and barsarus five milligrams. 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.680 A new federal structure of KAMMA wants is point four 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.760 and so that would eliminate the entire sector before it 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.120 even launches. And at this point, you know, what do 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.960 you tell I don't know, manufacturers, what do you tell consumers? 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.320 You're right? I mean it would devastate the industry. I mean, 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:02.000 so you know, if you have derive your THHD from hemp, 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.000 it would get rid of that. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:04.880 You know. 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:11.599 Will the industry instead turn to legal marijuana processors and 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:16.560 get their THHD to infuse their beverages with THD for marijuana. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.800 And that then makes a whole bunch of other regulations, 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:25.760 because now it's marijuana which legally, and this is we've 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.279 talked before, this is stupid. You can't take that across 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:33.240 state lines because it's an illegal scheduled one drug. But 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.120 it's okay that the Feds just turn a blind high 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.600 to it in every state. Right, So, I mean that's 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.680 the possibility for the industry. 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:42.800 Should the President just get in and fix this? I 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:44.880 know he at times. I mean it's hard to tell 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.880 what Trump is thinking or what he's actually going to do, 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.120 because he's pretty good at talking out of both sides 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.880 of his mouth a lot of times where he stands 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:53.560 with this, couldn't he just say, hey, this is dumb, 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:54.240 knock it off. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.320 I guess through the FDA he could do something. You 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:05.359 know he's talked about, Yes, you know marijuana, you know, 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.000 moving it from scheduled one, and that would do a 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:13.080 lot not but for the marijuana industry. 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.200 It would give us the ability to do. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:20.760 Research and different things like that. So you're right, it's 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.880 hard to tell what he's thinking then what direction he's 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:25.520 going to go in, but I think probably with the 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:26.880 FDA he could do something. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.080 You see, there's all these new businesses going in right 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.440 from distribution, and that would be you know, THHG shops 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.279 and things like that, and distributors, and of course the 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.200 beverage industry itself is blown up, and all of these 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.000 micro brewers are starting to put efforts into THC and 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.160 fuse drinks. Is that's what the public wants. They like it, 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.200 and they want more of it, and you give the 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.719 people what they want and you regulate it. And that's 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.760 how it works in America. Least it should anyway. But 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.279 at this point, because we're still relatively new at this 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.240 whole process, Steve Hoffman, why would any business invest in 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.400 the whole process of licensing and compliance and testing and 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.640 inventory worry when federal law could make ninety five percent 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.039 of the stuff illegal. It's just going to kill business, 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.520 isn't it. 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:11.320 It seems that way, you know that my understanding. You know, 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.160 if the House and the Senate finally passed this that 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.240 you know, at the end of the day, though, which 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.360 looks like it it gives a one year ramp, maybe 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:25.240 it won't be illegal for one year. So you know, basically, 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.880 you need to sell whatever product you have so that 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:31.800 you can kind of catch your losses. But yeah, you're 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.240 not going to keep making more and more knowing that 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:38.480 at some point soon you're you're not going. 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.920 To be able to Yeah, it seems like Mitch McConnell 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:46.440 and maybe other leadership in the GOP seem to talk 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.040 again both sides of your mouth is they want states 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.040 rights and should leave it up to the states, except 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.920 for something like this, Why not just say, hey, plenty 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.480 of states have an acted regulation Ohio included to regulate 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.840 this stuff. Why don't we just defer to them. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.280 You know, that's certainly a possibility. I mean, we've done that. 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.040 You know with marijuana. There's a you know a lot 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:12.560 of states with medical, there's there's many of them with recreational, 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:16.160 like Ohio, and there's still some like Utah that hey, 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:17.360 we just don't want. 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:17.680 This at all. 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.040 So yeah, you could leave it up to the state. 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.720 But if you you know, you look at the Rand 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.400 Paul Amendment the other the other night. You know, he 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:30.280 was trying to save the industry in Kentucky in particular, 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.640 that was voted down about seventy five twenty five. So 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:40.000 there's a large group in the US Senate. You know, 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:45.360 maybe maybe the US House doesn't concur or at least 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.760 has to say so in this and you know, there's 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.240 still some hope that it doesn't. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.280 He's Ohio Senator Steve Hoffman out of justice, Tip City. 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.160 It's it's we're back to this again. So we have 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.760 our new intoxicating HEMP law, and that's the beverages that 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.520 we enjoy edibles and cheers and smoke and stuff like that. 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.400 Ape but largely this is about the THHD and fused 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.920 drinks that are sweeping the state, if not the country 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.680 right now. There's a huge demand for these products and 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.400 there were legal to sell. Then it became briefly legal, 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.520 we had a ninety day moratorium, the court stepped in, 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:18.320 and finally the Legislature General suddenly their Steve's guidance fixed 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.400 this and so you can enjoy those beverages now in 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.840 salom and it's great for industry, it's great for consumers 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:24.719 and everyone, and we're keeping out of the hands of 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.000 kids as well it should be. But now the federal 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.320 government stepped in under the auspices of Mitch McConnell Kentucky, 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.880 who said that using the the wine argument, this is 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.480 hurting children because the Farm bill screwed this up, and 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.320 we're selling intoxicating products and it may undermine all the 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:42.120 stuff we've done in Ohio and at the same time, 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.040 you know, I think it was Senate Bill fifty six 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.840 we're talking about here that you implemented. So should you 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.040 delay implementing this stuff and should we just put this 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.080 on hold till the FED sorted out or we just 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:51.839 continue forward? 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:58.400 Well, I think here in Ohio, knowing the governor, of 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:02.559 the President and the Speaker, they want something done about 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.160 the bad stuff. They wanted it done, you know, before 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:09.760 summer break. Now it's for Thanksgiving. So I think we're 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.199 going to more than likely act in the next few 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:16.480 weeks against the bad things that we know they're out 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.160 there in the gas stations and selling the kids. How 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.960 far we go I think is still to be determined. 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.120 Yeah. Do you also think that this is maybe some 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.840 I don't know, some sort of power struggle here, because well, 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:32.480 the opposing forces here are both Kentucky senators. You've got 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:36.079 McConnell versus Paul, and we know their positions on this thing. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:38.360 Is the rest of the country in Ohio just getting 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.040 caught up in this? Do you think there's something like 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:41.640 behind the scenes going on here or is it just 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.079 coincidental they're both from Kentucky. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.200 I think it's probably quincident all. I think it's also 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:53.240 part that Mitch mcconnald lamed up on his way out, 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.840 and you know, maybe this is, you know, one of 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:59.480 his legacy things he's trying to get fixed before he leaves. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.760 I think there's a lot of stuff like that in there, 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:07.360 but probably coincidental that the two are from the same state. 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.520 Yeah, I'll be honest with you. I mean, you know, 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.360 we question, and rightly so, the power of Biden's auto 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.079 pen and how many of these edicts, decisions, executive ours 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.360 and like he made were done without his knowledge. I 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.719 probably could say the same thing about Mitch McConnell. We've 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:25.240 seen people behind the scenes, aids and assistants that dictate policy. 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.520 We've seen this with Diane Feinstein and others. I would 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.640 think it works with Mitch McConnell's even know what the 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:30.760 hell this is at this point. 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:37.520 Well, I'm certainly not in the position the past judgment 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:42.800 on that, but he's had a very very honorable career 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.240 in the state aid of Kentucky and what he's done 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:46.080 in the US Senate. 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:50.520 So let's talk a little bit about the propersonality of 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.040 this too. Is you know, the wine was concerned about 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.240 child poisonings in the executive order, And I wonder how 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:00.400 much Mitch McConnell really believes in this. Did did the 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.880 federal approach and eliminating the industry does that actually? 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:03.240 Does it? 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.679 Does all this match the scale the ban? And does 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:07.880 it match the scale of the child safety problem? Because 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.800 I just I don't see that. Certainly there's a danger. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.200 You're a physician, you tell me. You see overdoses and 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.880 kids present to emergency rooms, emergency departments, poison control centers 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.120 because they ingested an edible or maybe drank something they shouldn't. 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.360 We've seen that with alcohol and prescription drugs for that matter. 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.680 But is the remedy here worse than the illness? 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.760 Well, that's always the question, right Scott. You know, what's 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:34.479 the balance, the balance of protecting people balance for people's liberties? 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.920 And now it appears that, you know to me, and 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.920 I thank you, the federal government is making it unbalanced 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:47.320 to those liberties that people should have, rather than than 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.080 going overboard on the safety. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.679 So yeah, and the whole industry hangs in the balance here, 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:55.480 it really does. And I guess we're just going to 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:59.240 continue on when they sort this thing out, and do 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.160 you have hope that. I'm really rooting for Ran Polock 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.160 quite honestly, because I think he made a great impassion 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:09.960 plea as a libertarian, which I thoroughly love. I know 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.840 why this stuff should be continuing on the path. It 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.680 is of legality and you know, regulate it like anything else. Absolutely, 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.280 it's an intoxicating product, can't fall in the wrong hands. 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.640 But to simply shut the whole sector down because of 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.319 the twenty eighteen Farm Bill and we're protecting children is 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.880 a mindless exercise. Do we have hope that this thing 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:28.800 is going to simply get squashed? 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.160 I think the hope is the one year. 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:36.439 That is given. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:42.080 To fix this in a different way, so the band 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.640 wouldn't happen for a year on a federal level. Maybe 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.320 they come back and you know, give the state's the 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:54.440 ability to do it. Maybe they legalized drinks, so I 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:56.840 think that was what the thought process. 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.000 There was, or maybe looked like states like Ohio go well, 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:00.640 they seem to be doing it right. That is the 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:02.240 Petri dish of experimentation. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:02.720 Is it not? 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.240 That we have fifty states, and of course in each state, 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.360 multiple counties and jurisdictions, and somebody eventually is going to 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.000 come up with a good idea that we can copy 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.960 and use as a national model. But the posturing here 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:14.880 is rather confusion, especial at the time when we just 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:18.839 had this protracted the longest government shutdown in history, and 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.720 now the news that's coming out as they're messing with 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.640 your THHD and few drinks, just when you need the most, Steve, 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:26.600 with the holidays coming up and the headache we have 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:27.720 with government shutdowns. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:32.440 You know, sometimes you just scratch your head, don't you really? 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.280 Do You really do other stuff to worry about. All right, 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.520 I know you're optimistic about this thing, that the cooler 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.400 heads will prevail, someone will get the MCCONLLM go. This 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.640 is a bad idea. Just look at Ohio. Hopefully that 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.000 is going to happen because people enjoy this stuff. It's 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.200 a legal product, and people argue it's better for you 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.120 and feel better than drinking traditional alcohol. So you know, 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.040 I pick your poison, as it were. But this is 0:14:56.080 --> 0:15:00.160 a silly, silly exercise in what government does it which 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.240 is the worst, and that is picking winners and losers. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:03.760 All the best, Steve, thanks for joining. 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:05.800 You take care, have a good day. 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.240 You too, Take care State Center or Steve Huffman on 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.720 the Scotslan Show this morning on seven hundred W. They'vet 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.400 all worked up about this because it's just stupid. 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:12.840 You know. 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.200 I've tried the tht beverages. I like him better than 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.800 like an energy drink, for example, which, by the way, 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.320 I just saw a story of study about energy drinks 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.960 and long term heart issues and brain issues and stuff 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:24.160 like that. I don't know if it's true or not. 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.840 I've tried energy drinks before. I just don't like the 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:29.560 taste of them. I have to find one I really like. 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.520 But plenty of people enjoy energy drinks, you know, the 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.320 same thing should. Young kids are getting caffeine. They're going 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.600 on the Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts McDonald's. Kids enjoy coffee. When 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.760 you're a little kid, you always hated coffee, right you try, 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.080 How could you drink that? It's terrible? And then your 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.800 taste buds changes. You get already love coffee. Now, young people, 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.520 largely because it's loaded with sugar, will drink caffeinated drinks, 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.200 and a lot of them for that matter, too, and 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.880 that causes problems. Why aren't we cracking down on that stuff, 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:57.520 and we should. Is what I'm saying is you know 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.120 there are harmful effects, and no matter what you know, 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.040 too much sugar is going to be bad for you 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:02.960 as a result of that. And in this case, if 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.680 you're an adult and you want a legal beverage that 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:07.840 should be legal for that matter, you get the same 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.200 effect as alcohol. You're not picking winners and losers, and 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.680 you're of course you're parsing over whether or not it's 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.520 bad for kid. Well, it's all bad for kids. Everything 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.280 we put in our bodies, generally, outside of maybe water, 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.840 and if you live in Flint maybe not so much either. 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.600 Then water's bad for you. Right, You can actually die 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.760 from drinking too much water. So I don't know. If 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.720 it's poison, it's one thing. But if it's something that's intoxicating, 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.880 God knows. We need it today more than ever because 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.840 the nonsense the government continues to pull. I need more alcohol, 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.120 I need more intoxicating things, not less, as a grown 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:45.320 asked man. Scott's Sloan seven hundred WW. Here we go, 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.760 and this midweek morning, Scott's Sloan here seven hundred WLW 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.360 starting to warm back up a little bit day to 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.960 winter there I didn't do for you, probably not so good. 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:58.120 But no feels good outside this morning. And we're halfway 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:02.040 through at this point, still trying to figure out what's 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.440 going on with the drop of the Epstein files. And 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.520 now we're gonna lease some and it's got Trump's name 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:08.879 in it, but there's some weird coded messages, and I 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:10.399 just I don't know what to make of this whole thing. 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.840 I can't wait to see what comes at well. I 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.520 guess more to come out too. But you know something 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:19.119 about the loudest barking dog, It's like it's almost cryptic 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.480 fortune cookie kind of stuff. Let's get to the let's 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.000 get to it all right, pitter patter, let's get at her, 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:27.600 drop all the files, let's find out what's going on. 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.760 Let's go, let's go, let's go. Last night, did you 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.240 see any of the Northern lights? My wife is absolutely fascinated. 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.440 That could be one of the next bucket list trips 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.400 we do is to go watch the Northern Lights. She's 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.840 fascinating with it. Soh yeah, okay, that's your thing. Let's go. 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.080 Let's do it. The report last night because we had 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:46.600 the I think it's ranked like G one through five, 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:51.840 and last night was a G four and pretty bright anyway, 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.520 and I recall the one last year was one of 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.400 the best ones ever. You could even see the lights 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.680 as far south as Florida Northern lights. Last night was 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.640 pretty wrong as well. Reports of being able to see 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:05.080 the lights in and around Cincinnati. And when my wife 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.959 friend is last night at sunset, she's like, walks through 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.080 the window the new house goes, I don't see anything. Well, 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.400 that's because your facing south. I was hard hard time 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:18.680 with people who don't get directions, and I don't know why. 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.320 That's an interesting phenomenon that some people are really really 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.879 good with direction, Like to me, it just comes naturally, 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.000 like I know where north southeast west is or direct 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.400 I'm not as good with. I'm more of a landmark guy, 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:29.879 Like you tell me the name of Astraia, go where's 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:31.600 that again? But I, oh, it's here. Oh yeah, okay, 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.520 I can And you showed me once I can get 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.080 there and I can get back. It's not a problem. 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.520 But I realized that some people, man, no matter how 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.760 hard they try, God bless them, they struggle with directions. 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:44.880 Some people you could write it down and they'll still 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.359 get lost. I guess, so, thank God for ways in 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.400 the apps out there. But last night in the northern lights, 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.800 as long as you're looking north, you might have been 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.000 able to see them south. Maybe not so much, maybe 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.560 not so much. But we all of our things, don't we? 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:00.280 We sure do. This is interesting in Tennessee, got guy 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:04.320 on death row there and he's I guess in Tennessee, 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.200 either way they do. You can choose how you want 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.360 to die. How do you want to die. 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:10.160 In there? 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:14.720 It's electrocution or lethal injection. To me, that doesn't seem 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:18.320 like much of a choice, Like I'm one hundred percent 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:19.440 with lethal injection. 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:20.639 I know that. 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.639 Well, you know you still between the drugs and you 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:26.520 can still feel something, and you know we're splitting hairs 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:28.360 when you talk to it. In this case, a guy 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:32.760 who by the way, raped and murdered a student at 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:37.399 Chaganu State University in nineteen ninety at that point and 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.359 you're convicted that you know, I hope you feel a 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.440 little pain. Quite honestly, this whole cruel and unusual punishment. 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:47.560 Then unusual punishment and cruelty is one thing. And as 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:49.960 much as we would want some sense of retribution for 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:52.479 those kind of crimes where you really want them to suffer. 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:56.159 I get that the constitution prohibits that, but we have 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:59.800 I somehow come to interpret cruel and unusual as if 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.160 you feel any pain whatsoever, if you're even the most 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:05.800 at least been uncomfortable, got a little ogita over the 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.720 fact that you're gonna be executed. Yeah, I'm sorry, this 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:10.399 should be a little bit, just a little bit of 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.760 pain involved there. I don't understand that. Okay, you get 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.520 a drug to knock you out, make you not feel anything, 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.760 another drug to calm you down, Another one that's gonna 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:20.560 slow your heart, another one's gonna stap your breathing. In 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:22.400 this whole cocktail of dry you can't make it any 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:27.080 nicer to take someone's life than that. And yet there 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.080 are still issues with well, well, here's what we think 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:31.320 is going on in their brain. We're getting some brain function. 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:36.800 And uh, honestly, I think we got way too nice 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.399 about all this stuff. It seems to me. You know, 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:43.359 we have these thirty ton presses that can bend iron 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:45.800 and steel in the blank of an eye, very dangerous 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:48.719 equipment and factories people around all the time. But somebody's 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:54.120 head in that I mean an industrial press that would 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.760 take the problem rather quickly. I'd be rather it'd be messy, 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.280 but you know, you got pressure washes, maybe some birds 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:06.200 picking at the stem, and that'd be like the way 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.399 to do It's like, okay, here's this giant press, like 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.320 a guillotine. Well, the quillotine can be you know. Okay, 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.640 back then it was run by gravity, you know, French Revolution. 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:16.439 We're going to be head people and sometimes it did 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:20.000 miss and it's not good. Now we've got hydraulics. Man, 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:23.480 get some get some heavy equipment involved, you know me, 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.879 I like construction. Get some heavy equipment involved in here. 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:28.920 Take care of the problem. And part of the problem 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.600 here though again with the death penalty. Nineteen ninety is 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:37.000 when he was convicted. It's twenty twenty five. That's the 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.880 problem with all of this. But yeah, I definitely would 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:43.680 go in lethal injection, our extracution. I think, yeah, you 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.719 heard some stories look back in the day where they 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.679 really didn't go quietly and there may be some suffering. 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:51.560 They may still be alive afterwards. Okay, but we have 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:53.920 better technology now, that's the best we had at the time. 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:57.560 Old sparky LEAVELD injection seems to be the best way 0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.639 to do. But now we even steal full pain. Okay, fine, 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:03.480 I say hydraulic press, thirty ton high product, the stuff 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:06.760 that they make, you know, car panels out of punches, 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:10.200 the metal done that, something like that. And if you're 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:13.320 in that industry, you know you're probably far stronger things 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:16.280 out there you could do to someone to take them out. 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:19.040 We have a lot of options available for us. It's like, 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:21.640 how just how nasty do we want to get though? Yeah, 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:25.280 the idea squashing somebody's head like a like a grape 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:29.080 probably left to appealing to a lot of folks. Quite honest, 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:30.520 I think that would be the way to go. You're 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:32.560 not gonna feel anything after that. It's good. We're just 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:36.120 smashing you down like a used car. Kind of gross, 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:38.680 I know. But if we're worried about pain and suffering 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:42.920 and the constitution cruel and unusual, it may be unusual, 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:44.600 but that is not cruel. That is a quick way 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:46.919 to end somebody right there who has it coming? In 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:49.440 this case, that's it coming. Now we're getting choices on 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.960 they want to go. I don't get it. This is 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:55.280 a uh you know, Supreme Court has a lot going on. 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:57.800 Later on the show. This morning. By the way, it's 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:01.320 the Skotis v. Potus battle, and the Supreme Court is 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:05.240 debating Trump's tariffs and whether or not they are indeed attacks. 0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:09.560 And as you may recall from grade school, that only 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.359 Congress can lovy attacks. That is the only branch of 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.359 government that can enact attacks would be Congress. And so 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:19.359 how do terrorists work? Is it attack? Well, Trump's the 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.680 solictener General as a matter of fact admitted that it's 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:25.600 an attack, so kind of underminds the argument, and Cavanaugh 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:29.040 and Coby Barrett said that it seemed to indicate that 0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:31.040 some questions about that and seem to lean towards it 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.880 and read the tea leaves at these things. And sometimes 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:35.879 it's true sometimes that I love how everyone says, well, 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:37.640 they're just going to rule straight with Trump, or they're 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.320 gonna res straight with Biden. Then they never do. They 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:42.040 wind up doing their own thing, and confound even the 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.280 people who appointed them. Sometimes is the case, because you 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:45.800 never know which way the whole court's going to go. 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:47.359 So this will be interesting, you know, whether or not 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.080 the tariffs are actually legal or not. And if you 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:51.720 undo them, what does that look like? So it's a 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:53.399 whole thing anyway, we'll get into that at eleven oh 0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:57.359 six today and what that actually means. But in the 0:23:57.359 --> 0:24:00.040 case of the Supreme Court hearing Kim Davis's petition, she 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:04.200 remember Kim David being in Kentucky. So in twenty fifteen 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:05.919 was the same sex marriage issue. And this is the 0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:08.520 woman and as I believe the clerk of court, she 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:11.240 was refused to issue a marriage license to a gay 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:15.000 couple in Kentucky saying it violates your religious beliefs. And 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:16.719 that led the lawsuits and I think the couple got 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:19.320 like one hundred thousand dollars and the Circuit Court upheld 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:22.000 it and now it's been kicked up to the Supreme Court. 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:25.560 That the argument, her argument is that it has no 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:28.800 constitual basis and it conflicted with her religious beliefs. And 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:31.359 you know, I always look at that and go, I 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:34.280 don't know, if there's something that conflicts with your personal beliefs, 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:37.679 then maybe it's time to either get someone else to 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:39.239 do that or just step aside and go I can 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:41.359 no longer do this job. And there's nothing there's nothing 0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:45.040 wrong with that. You admire someone for standing by their 0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.959 deeply held religious beliefs, But how much is reasonable accommodation 0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:49.439 for someone like that. And I know, if you're on 0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.200 the far right, if you're goods and conservative, do you 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.520 think this is the most important case of all time. 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:57.480 But you know, then you look at and go, okay, well, 0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.760 she's these are her deeply held religious beliefs. But she's 0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.520 been married what at the time anyway, four times to 0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.160 three husbands, as I recall, and three of them mented 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:07.800 a divorce, and she had two daughters from the first 0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:11.080 one got remarried and there was a chain of divorces there. 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.760 And you know, the argument is that gay marriage undermines 0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:18.200 traditional marriage. And why there's an argument right there. I'm 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:21.320 sure there's someone who's more conservative Christian than she is 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.240 that doesn't like Kim Davis because she has been married 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.840 so many times, married and divorced, which in the eyes 0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:30.760 of many Christians is a no go Catholics, for example. 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.680 So you know, if you're a Catholic that worked with her, 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.199 I just don't understand how you couldn't be offended by that. 0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:41.120 And what about their religious beliefs. I don't know where 0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.160 does it end. The Saint is sainct dear marriage thing, 0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:46.200 I mean, marriage has become it's getting stronger. I think 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:47.880 the numbers are maybe starting to go the other way, 0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:50.280 but as people wait to get married much later in 0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:54.320 life than previously. But your whole sanctity of marriage argument 0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:58.639 is arguable. What does that actually mean? But you know 0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:01.720 the other element of this thing two is that we 0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.560 had what there's a pretty good fact pattern here since 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.720 and it's something like three hundred thousand same sex couples 0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:09.760 were married after this and have been married after this. 0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:11.840 And you know, you look at the boost to local 0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:16.680 economies just making life easier for people. Basically, same sex 0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:19.280 households and states of legal marriage have higher earnings, hire 0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:23.800 its to home ownership, sexual ent hate crimes and employment 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:30.280 destrication against people like that are have declined. STD rates 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:31.679 are down. And so yeah, I mean, if you look 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:33.360 at the studies over the last twenty years since we've 0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.080 done this, there's no evident, there's no reliable evidence, let's 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.159 put it that way, that there's somehow harm to the 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:42.199 general population, which was laughable to begin with. There's just 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:44.640 there's no ada. I'm sure you can do some studies 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:46.800 that may be biased, and someone likes, well, what about 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:51.080 the Look, what are the negative effects on marriage rates 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:54.440 of different sex couples and there isn't any And the 0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:56.000 fact of the matter is like seven of the ten 0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:59.840 Americans have no problem with it, largely good for sight. 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:04.640 Why because it's consenting adults doing consenting adult things. There's 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.399 no victimization of children or animals or anything like that. 0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.000 And people have tried to throw that red hairiring out there, 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:11.760 and it's a bad comparison. It's like, no, there are 0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.120 two people who happen to be the same sex if 0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.320 they want to be together in marriage. I think this 0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.040 church shouldn't recognize that that's no business with chair, unless 0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:21.840 you find a church that does. But by the state, absolutely, 0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:25.359 it's just better for the economics and the machineer or 0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.280 of the United States for that to occur. And Kim 0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.520 Davis being offended that she has to issue a license 0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.080 and find someone else to do it or just step aside. 0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.240 It's like when pharmacists wouldn't issue certain prescriptions, like well 0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.639 then you okay, have someone else in the office do it, 0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.880 or maybe maybe the terms of the job have changed 0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:44.720 and you can't do it anymore. And that's not just 0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:48.679 true for pharmacists and clerks of courts, but any job now, 0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:51.000 I mean, look at AI and there are many people 0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:52.840 who have been hanging on and doing jobs for a 0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.600 long time and don't understand all this technology. And if 0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:57.120 you can't, you just to go, oh, I can't send 0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.959 people that refuse to send emails. Now I'm still say 0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.600 faxes like it's you know, twenty ten, and you're still 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.480 twenty fifteen, twenty twenty, You're still doing this Like either learn, 0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:08.000 you adapt, or you got to move on. That's just 0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.600 how it is. Hate being the adult in a room, 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.760 but that's the way it is. At five, one, three, seven, four, nine, 0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:14.360 seven thousand and eight on the Big One talk Back 0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:17.360 iHeartRadio app to South Lebanon and Aubrey on the Scotsland 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:17.920 show High There. 0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.680 Hey, I was listening to your show earlier about talking 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:25.159 about the hemp products and the politicians lobbying to and 0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.240 I'm thinking about how much money is being spent by 0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.840 the alcohol industry. And I did a little research when 0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.199 I got home, and I'm looking at the list of 0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:37.439 our alcohol industry lobbyists that have spent money in the 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:43.240 last quarter to get cannabis products, cannabis drinks off the shelves, 0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:44.600 and I'm just going to read them out to you. 0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:50.600 Anheuser Busch, Bacardi Beer Institute, Desill Spirits Council, Moat Hennessy, 0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:56.360 National Beer Wholesalers Association, Wine and Spirits Wholesalers of America. 0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:59.600 So there's a lot of money, deep pockets, old money 0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:03.240 in the US that's fighting to keep these products off 0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.160 the shelves, and I think it's going straight into the 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:09.440 politician's pockets. This is about money. This has nothing to 0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.920 do with safety for children. This is crocodile tears. They 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.040 don't care about the safety of the youth. If they cared, 0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:18.160 they'd be more worried about getting beer out of the 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:19.600 hands of sixteen year olds. 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.480 But well, I also, I mean, and that's a understanding. 0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.240 I'm with you on that. It's like, Okay, do we 0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.400 want our kids having these products? No, whether it's an 0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.520 edible or a eight product that's harmful to them, that 0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.320 has taching now and no one wants that. We should 0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.480 go after the illegal sellers and the straw purchases and 0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.640 all as well. We should, But you know, if you're 0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.960 a law abiding adult, I know plenty of people, not myself. 0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.880 I'm I can't say I've had enough of them. To 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:43.600 get a good sample size of what I like and 0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.800 don't like. But people seem to really enjoy the THHD 0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.960 infused products. And now we have senators that are debating 0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:51.880 whether or not that should simply go away because of 0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.000 what happened on a farm bill and protecting children and 0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.400 the sanctimony of it all. And I will say, though, 0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:58.080 on the other hand, I mean, I'm sure that Rand 0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:00.720 Paul is influenced by that kind of money too, when 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.080 he seems to be very resistant to this whole thing. 0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:04.480 I don't know, it's just Mitch McConnell. 0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.240 Well, I think I know why Rand Paul isn't influence 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:09.760 I think he's more of a libertarian. 0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:10.000 Yep. 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.320 I think Mitch McConnell is an old school Republican and 0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.240 Ran Taull comes from the Iron Rand school of thought, 0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:20.160 where you you more individual rights and less influenced by 0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:23.800 the old school you know, government, government, nanny state. 0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.800 But anyway, well, this isn't this isn't much different than 0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:28.680 I was just talking about. I mentioned the you know, 0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:32.160 the filler here about Kim Davis in gay marriage. I 0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:35.280 just never understood the how this, how this hurts a 0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:37.520 traditional marriage. You know, I've been in a traditional marriage 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.560 for thirty five years, and I've never once been threatened 0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:42.760 because two gay people of each other and want to 0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:46.120 be tied in in matrimony and maybe not recognize the 0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.520 eyes of the church, which we shouldn't force churches to 0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.400 do that, certainly, but you can go to the government. 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:54.080 Government should be the arbitrator that And the twenty years 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.880 plus we've had this, it's been better for society, not 0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.200 worse like the people that Kim Davis claim it's going 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:02.680 to be. And so I government being an outside arbitrator 0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.400 these things going now, it's a sense of adulthood and 0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.120 fairness and propriety. And if it's something that is not 0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.880 overly harmful, and everything we do is harmful of course 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.880 to us or harming others, is there not a victim 0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:14.880 in it, you should be allowed. 0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:15.040 To do it. 0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.600 Well, you know, I don't want to get entangled in 0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:22.400 the religion because of my religious beliefs about the marriage issues. 0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:24.120 But I will point out my husband and I were 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.520 just having breakfast. Shame on Mitch McConnell for wanting the 0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:31.360 federal government to step in over States rights. Right when 0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:35.520 Trump in, you know, we edded the federal ban on 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:39.520 abortion and allowed states to division whether they were going 0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.720 to permit it. Why don't we just keep it the 0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.520 way it is? Why do we have to have a 0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.640 federal ban on a product? Why don't we keep allow 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:50.640 the states rights? The states have determination on whether they 0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.440 want a product on the shelves. Why have to have 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.360 big the big government determining what we permit. 0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.800 But that's all I appreciate it. That well, thanks again 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.080 Aubrey for listening to show then South elevenon this morning 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.400 A five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand. Well, 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.200 it's it's part of the hypocrisy of politics. I mean, 0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:07.040 at least I'm consistent with a lot of this stuff 0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:11.520 is that, you know, I just I just want less government, 0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:13.520 stay out of our lives. And we're in a new age, 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.400 and I understand that there's a you know, the new conservative, 0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.200 new liberal movements that are going to make things worse, 0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.320 not better in that regard. And at some point you 0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.240 think we'd move away from that going you know, we 0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:27.040 just need more civil libertarianism. Then we need people telling 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:28.560 us how to live our lives. You know, stat of 0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.840 the way, let's make money, be an arbiter, be a referee. 0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:33.720 But you know, that's a dreamline. I realize it's a 0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:37.680 pipe dream and probably is. I don't know as fictitious 0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.400 a belief as how liberals believe in utopia and that 0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.880 can never exist, or conservatives believe that how things were 0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.360 fifty or eighty years ago was a perfect world and 0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:50.520 things are worse today. That's not true either. The reality 0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:52.640 is that it seems to work better where we have 0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:54.840 a divided government and a government just looks at stays 0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.560 out our way. But of course we have everything from 0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.560 jerrymandering to campaign finance that we're just talking about it 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.840 more that cloud that And look at it this way. 0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:08.840 If if we had that perfect world, like a libertarian 0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.400 world where adults can do adult things, provided there's no 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.760 victims in it other than yourself or the person you're 0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.840 doing adult things with, and you're not harming the rest 0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:21.600 of society, then it seems like, you know, that should 0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:24.880 be the way to go. But unfortunately that takes away 0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.240 the base, and it takes away the authority of politicians. 0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:29.719 You know, we all bitch and moan about what our 0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.840 favorite thing that would be carve outs and pork and 0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:36.239 you know, loading up bills with I mean, look, at 0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:37.880 look at to open the government. Look at some of 0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:39.840 the stuff they've included in there. It has nothing to 0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.760 do with keeping the government open. But that's how they 0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:45.320 ingratiate themselves, and that's why you have set asides and 0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.719 carve outs for their particular constituents, and which is why 0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.040 it is a maze of law that makes no sense. 0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:53.760 If you got to rid of all that stuff, and 0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.000 that is the essence of what Doze was supposed to do, 0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:00.360 you would have less need to elect these people. But 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.520 that takes away their base, their power, and their authority. 0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.200 And it's about them, not us, regardless of what political 0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:06.680 belief you have. Anyway, let me get to a news 0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:08.719 update and more to follow after ten oh six here 0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:10.840 on the Scott Sloan Show on seven hundred w do 0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.719 to a council member Mark Jefferies one reelection and we 0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.360 now have new curfews coming. So now they want to 0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.800 lockdown the area on Short Vine like they did Fountain Square. 0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.560 We have different times. It's this makes no sense at all, 0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.480 another senseless move, and we'll try to make sense of 0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:27.680 it after this on seven hundred w WT Cincinnati. 0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:29.440 Do you want to be an American? 0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:34.160 Scott slumback on seven hundred WLW with a shooting caught 0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.600 on video what just last week the other week near 0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.479 UC and students of course, the victims of crime there. 0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:43.120 There After, pure Vall has paused his proposed six o'clock 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.360 fountains where a juvenile curfew to focus now on Shorten 0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.520 Vine near you see, near the campus, and now wants 0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:54.360 to stop juveniles. I don't know what age, but after 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:58.120 nine o'clock, and that's obviously tougher than the eleven o'clock 0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:01.279 curfew city what and so we've got these conflicting curfews, 0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:03.840 and the question is does it make sense. Mark Jefferies, 0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:07.560 council member re elect and also sits on law in 0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.960 public safety. Welcome back, Congratulations on your win. 0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:13.120 By the way, thank you, Scott, appreciate the opportunity here. 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:16.520 I don't know first blush of this, I look at 0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.720 it and go, well, number one would be it seems 0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:20.399 like we've got a whole bunch of different times when 0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.160 the curfew is I you need like a curfew app, 0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.880 like a parking app, to tell you exactly what areas 0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:27.480 you can be in at what age at this point. 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.360 Yeah, look, I've said this all along you know, I 0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:34.319 spent seventeen years of TMG and marketing, and the one 0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:36.880 the one thing you learn at marketing is having. 0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:37.759 A consistent message. 0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:42.360 And so if it's nine o'clock or eleven or six, 0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.080 and which block? I mean, even in this one short 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:50.080 flying it's two blocks. So that's one concern. The other concern, 0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:53.040 honestly is like, what you know, this is a problem 0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:55.880 for business owners there. I've gone up to folks on 0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:58.360 shortvind I met with a bunch of the businesses there. 0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:02.359 We have issues. The question that I have is what. 0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:03.680 Exactly are we solving for? 0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:05.719 Because when we look at a lot of the incidents, 0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.440 you know, there's one in August tenth, which was twelve 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:12.080 forty five, There's one at September thirteenth, which was one 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:15.439 thirty six people attacking three people for pizza. The one 0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:18.600 on November first, first, who references, happened at two forty 0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:19.160 nine am. 0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:21.680 A lot of those are outside of even the eleven 0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:22.440 pm curfew. 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:24.720 And so the first question I'm going to have today 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:28.040 is are we enforcing the eleven pm curfew which is 0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:31.480 citywide there? Because those three incidents I just referenced are 0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:35.279 happening after that. You know, so, you know, I think 0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.319 we start there, you know, are we enforcing the current one, 0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:43.040 what's working, what's not working? And then assessed from there 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.040 like what exactly are what sort of especially non violent 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.160 activity or what kind of activity are we trying to 0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:49.440 prevent from nine to eleven? 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:51.880 So a lot of questions. 0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:53.960 Yeah, I think the other consideration is the fact, well, 0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.840 are aren't the bulk of college students teenagers? And therefore 0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.080 how do you discern which one should be there and 0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.080 which one shouldn't? But simply by just looking at them, 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:02.240 they're all teenagers. 0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.840 Yeah, I mean presumably it's under eighteen, and you know 0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.880 a lot of college kids are above eighteen. But you know, 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.759 I mean that's where it gets very complicated, right, you know, 0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:13.160 you know. 0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.880 They're they this is a big problem. I mean, there 0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:17.439 are kids who are gathering there. 0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:18.400 I mean. 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:20.560 Part of my concern though is also, and I've said 0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:23.200 this so along, is Okay, you have it downtown over 0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:26.440 the Rhine, and then you push it up to short mind, Well, 0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:28.480 what what happens now? It's going to go over to 0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:30.680 clips in there, go over to Sire, Yeah, I go 0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:32.880 to you know, Westwood, Like where are they going to go? 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:33.120 Yep. 0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:34.399 And you know you're in. 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.080 A whack a mole situation. So how are we thinking 0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:40.680 about that? And you know, so a lot of questions 0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.279 and I want to understand what the what the thought 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:44.640 process is, and what the rest. 0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:46.400 I think, Mark, and that's a great point is that 0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:48.200 you you know, we've seen this before. We'll do the 0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.759 prostitution stings right and shut down a whole neighbor. They'll 0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:53.040 just go to the corner up the way and do 0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.920 it there because there's a market forarder in list kids, 0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:58.400 juvenile delinquents want to be the link win and they 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.759 want to cause problems for everyone else. I get. So 0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.000 it seems to me again we're back to that thing 0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.120 you have no control over, would which would be the 0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.640 judicial branch, right, and that would be judges getting tough 0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:11.120 and cracking down on repeat offenders and especially those with 0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.920 gun crimes, sending a message it's not going to be tolerated. 0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:14.400 Uh. 0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:14.640 You know. 0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:16.880 The other element here too, is is what the idea, 0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:20.080 ideal curfew policy would look like for the city. Any idea? 0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:23.279 Yeah, I mean I think we need to look. First 0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:26.040 of all, I think it is a consistent policy and. 0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:27.680 You know, look now that it's getting colder. 0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:32.440 You know, typically these activities reside and colder, you know, 0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.880 they're not as much during cold months. I think now 0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:37.719 is the time to take a step back, and I've 0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.959 asked the administration to have you know, interim chief any 0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.320 come forward and you know, say, hey, look what has worked. 0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:47.560 How many kids have we have we actually enforced the 0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.680 curfew on? What does that look like? You know, where 0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.040 has it been effective? Where has it not been effective. 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:57.560 Let's start there, and especially let's play it for next 0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:01.000 spring and summer when the warmer months you know, typically you. 0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:03.399 Know, spike these kinds of events. So I think let's 0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:03.799 start there. 0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.200 Let's let's you know, look at this as like end 0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:09.200 of year, you know, before we figure out what the 0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:09.840 next plan is. 0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:10.680 Let's figure out. 0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:13.400 What's working and what has been effective, and just honest 0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:16.919 assessment of you know, of you know, what we've done 0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:18.399 and things have worked. 0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:20.080 Then let's pivot and do something different. 0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:23.319 Mark Jeffries, the summer curfew district has been going on 0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:24.960 for a while now, and you know, kids going back 0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:26.960 to school. It's getting cold. I understand that, but what 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:30.040 about the feedback from that relative to this and if 0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:31.400 it makes sense or not. I mean, do we have 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:34.920 facts that actually improves safety or reduce the number of 0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.360 incidences along journals and Fountain Square. 0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:41.200 I don't know. And that's part of what exactly my point. 0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.040 We haven't had any data. 0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.800 I mean, we're finally getting to data on the food truck, 0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.200 you know band that they've put in place, which frankly 0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:53.880 shows no real effect. And so I want to understand 0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:57.960 the same thing on curfews. Okay, let's start with what's 0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:01.080 been done. Is it being effective and and not? And 0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:03.560 you know, we're we talked about being data driven, so 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:05.319 I think, you know, let's see what. 0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:05.839 The data does. 0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:08.400 I'll be honestly, I think the food truck idea is 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:10.919 the dumbest thing to come down that no one will 0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:12.960 take credit for. I don't know who started or why 0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:15.560 they thought it was a good idea. It makes absolutely 0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:19.000 no sense, the first and foremost being that the number 0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.200 one issue downtown or at least you know where we're 0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:23.160 talking about where short fine is too anywhere around the 0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:25.920 city's stuff from cars. What food trucks have no role 0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.920 in this is like and especially I feel for the 0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:31.520 vendors because they just want to make money, you know. 0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.880 Closing them down at eleven o'clock and then on a 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:35.480 college area. And when I was in college and you 0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:37.040 were in college, Hell, you're up till three four in 0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:38.799 the morning, right, and so who want to get some 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.560 food from a taco truck or a Burger truck or 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.280 pizza at two or three in the morning. It seems 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:46.960 like it's a great opportunity for the entrepreneur and the 0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.799 student as well. But you've got knuckleheads out there doing 0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:51.400 this kind of stuff, so we, of course we punished 0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:51.879 the good people. 0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:52.120 Again. 0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:54.120 I think it's the dumbest policy ever quite honestly. 0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:56.440 Yeah, I've never been a fan of it. I mean 0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.719 I can see a case for you know, making food 0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:01.840 truck zones or something like that. Hey, these are the 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.800 areas where food strucks can gather, where. 0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.280 People can you know, come and then CPD can monitor 0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.960 at that's fine whatever. I think the focus needs to 0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.719 be on really pushing and we're starting to do some 0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:16.960 mon garages, but around security around parking lots. You know, look, 0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:20.440 sixty percent of guns are stolen out of cars and 0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:22.680 a lot of that is happening in parking lots, so 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.200 we should we need to have better lighting, better security, 0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:27.560 better signage to sell people lock of your gun if 0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.000 you have it in your car. You know, that is 0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.319 how you keep these illegal guns off the street. So 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:34.160 I want to see a lot of emphasis in that. 0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:37.560 I think that's fair too. I think it may be 0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:40.520 again it's punishing good people, but I get the impetus 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:42.719 here is you shouldn't be leaving your gun unlocked a car. 0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:44.359 It needs to be in a box, in a safe 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.439 box or something like that. A console, a glove box 0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:48.920 under the seat is not good enough. That's that's driving 0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.600 the demand for people to break into cars. And of 0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.200 course the element then is attracted around there, and so 0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.000 they're going to hang out and do bad stuff when 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:57.480 they're not breaking in the cars. 0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:00.839 Yeah, and I wouldn't even say punish to the people 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:02.680 because you know, I mean, look, I'm a gun owner. 0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.120 You can have your gun just if you have it 0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.360 in your car. Lock it up and put it in 0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:09.880 a secure stake or you know, lock it somehow to 0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:11.600 make sure that if your car. 0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:12.879 Hopefully it's not broken in. 0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:15.800 You know, if we have security and we have lighting 0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:19.080 and we have cameras, you know, that tends to deter 0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:21.920 a lot of nefarious behavior. And so the more we 0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:25.080 can do there to prevent people from getting these illegal 0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.439 guns in the first place is a huge start. 0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:31.280 Okay, he is council member Mark Jeffrey's Law Public Safety Committee, 0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:34.360 among others, And of course we had a rash of 0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:36.400 crimes on Short find Now the mayor is going to 0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:38.799 talk to council just a little bit here as a 0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:42.080 matter of fact, regarding shifting priorities when it comes to 0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:45.280 juvenile curfews from Fountain Square to Short Vine or you see, 0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:48.000 and making it maybe as early as nine o'clock for 0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:51.839 unsupervised juveniles. But the problem, of course is that most 0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.239 of the people around college campuses tend to be in 0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.279 that particular age group. I don't know how you a 0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.719 police officer to be able to discern a I don't 0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:00.640 know a seventeen year old from an eighteen year old, 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:03.799 unless say, asking everybody for IDs or if this is 0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:07.560 even feasible for this point, and I get the effort 0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.719 we're trying to do here, but again, it's a much 0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.120 much bigger issue than just putting curfuws, John, especially when 0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.440 we don't have evidence that the previous curfews worked at all. Anyway, 0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:16.880 have you had any input or are you going to 0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.560 get input from UC and especifically the students or the 0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:22.000 businesses on Short Vine or anyone in Coryville for that matter. 0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:23.040 Yeah. 0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:24.680 No, I've met with students. 0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:27.120 I've met with I had a meeting with a bunch 0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.919 of the businesses there and went up to Short Fine 0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:30.879 and sat down with them. 0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.520 And you know, look, CBD has a justice of parking. 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:36.680 They're trying to make it easy, you know, harder for 0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:39.120 you know, folks to come in and park there and 0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:43.600 you know, and party along Short Vine. So they're they're 0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:46.040 you know, I don't know how effective of those measures are, 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:49.200 but you know, these business owners are They're like, look, 0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.440 this is the worst that's been in thirty years, and 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:55.160 so we have to do something. And that's where I 0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:57.560 think the first question is, given that a lot of 0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:00.759 these instances have happened at twelve forty five thirty two 0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.840 thirty in the morning, is are we enforcing the eleven 0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:05.319 pm curfew that we have in. 0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:05.960 Place right now? 0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:06.439 Yeah? 0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:10.360 Yeah, And that's that's where we start. And let's see, 0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:13.160 you know what, you know what, whether that's been affected. 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:14.160 Should we not? 0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.680 Why should we be reading into this politically and a 0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.520 political sense Mark jeffres In that okay, so you can 0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:22.160 chief thg that's up in the air. Mayor wins re 0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:25.000 election quite handily as you did in other members of council, 0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:27.080 and now we go, Hey, you know, I forget about 0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:29.319 Fountain Square even though okay, I get it's colder, but 0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.000 you're still going to have a lot of people at 0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.279 Fountain Square because of the holidays and the festivities of 0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:34.680 the ice rink and all that stuff. So now we're 0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:36.319 going to take our focus with from Fountain Square and 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.480 put it on Short Vine. Is the timing that's kind 0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:40.040 of a concern. 0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.560 No, I don't think there's a political thing there. 0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:47.040 I mean, look's if you know, because I do not 0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:49.560 think that we can take our eye off the ball 0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:53.399 on a Fountain Square and downtown and over the Rhine, 0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:56.000 you know, because to your point, people are going to 0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:59.960 be coming down. The Convention Center can be open in January. 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:01.920 We've got that new plaza where they're going to have 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.840 to rain. You're going to have a Christmas festival on 0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:09.000 Fountain Square, like, we have to have a safety during 0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:12.400 that time over Now, that has to be our priority. 0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:15.840 That's our front yard, you know, and obviously priority in 0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:18.120 the neighborhoods as well. But you know, when people come 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:21.640 down to downtown, they you know, we need them to 0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:25.040 feel and and beast states so that they hang out 0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.440 and spend money and you know, and contribute to the 0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:29.880 vibrancy of our not just our city, but our region. 0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:32.520 You've got Red Fast, You've got that, the Ice Frank 0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:35.040 as you mentioned, you've got Halidi Festt, Fountain Square, you've 0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:37.800 got Santa, you got all the stuff going on in downtown. 0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:39.680 And now we're going, hey, forget about Fountain Square and 0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:41.279 I are going to focus on Sure. Why can't we 0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:41.680 do both? 0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:45.120 I think no, and I think we need to do both. 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.840 I was ever a big fan of a six pm 0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:51.960 curfew on Fountain Square, so still the nine pm still exists. 0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:54.760 Six pm I just thought was a little too early, 0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:59.160 and then it does create confusion around what's six, what's nine, 0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:02.839 what's eleven? So I do think, you know, I've talked 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.880 to Interim Chief Enny, and he's still very focused on 0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:10.319 in and around downtown, and you know, and as I 0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:13.319 think he should be, all. 0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:15.520 Right, yeah and focus on those doing the act and 0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.600 making sure because typically when you arrest these individuals, there's 0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:22.399 previous either wants and warrants out for them, or they've 0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:24.680 done something in the past and they've got a history 0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.080 of causing problems. I think we need to really lean 0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.480 on And I don't know why it's so tough to 0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.399 ask judges to know, be better what they're doing here 0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:36.320 to make sure that those who are repeat offenders, ratchet 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:38.319 up the punishment for them, to set a message that 0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:41.520 that's not going to be tolerated behavior and it's not 0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:43.279 gonna make it go away, because there's always going to 0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:45.360 be someone else out there doing bad stuff. I get that, 0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:47.600 but I think it does have a chilling effect when 0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:52.080 you start getting tougher on sentences and punishments for people 0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:53.360 who are doing this kind of stuff. 0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:54.359 Yeah. 0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:56.520 Look, I mean, I've got four kids. If you have 0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:58.600 rules and you don't enforce the rules and there's no 0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:02.239 real consequence, you really don't have rules. And so I think, 0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.200 you know, we've got to we have to do what 0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:06.440 we can do here in the city Hall, which is 0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:09.359 make sure that we're you know, we're catching the back 0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:12.720 guys and then you know, once to get the judicial system, 0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.319 you know, continue to push forward, making sure that you 0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:19.200 know the consequences of the actions of these individuals, especially 0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:23.880 repeat defenders, are you know, material and prevent them from 0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:25.480 you know, continuing to do it again? 0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:25.880 All right? 0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:27.600 Finally, because I know you got to get in there. 0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:29.799 Mark Jeffries is up. What are you going to look 0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.600 for with the mayor's presentation of the city's presentation relative 0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:35.320 to your vote and how they should go? What questions 0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:36.600 you still need to answer? It kind of sum it 0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:37.040 up here. 0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:40.759 Yeah, A lot of questions. Are we enforcing the current 0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:41.239 care few? 0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:41.880 What's worked? 0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:45.279 What hasn't worked on to our fine in particular, you know, 0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.640 what kind of non violent activity is happening between nine 0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:49.120 and eleven? 0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:50.319 Like what's going on? 0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:51.600 You know? 0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:55.759 And uh, you know and and specifically you know what 0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:58.560 you know, what would the path be forward if you 0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.280 know kids go to clips in the North. 0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:02.120 Side or another neighborhood. 0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:04.359 So a lot of these questions that I think we 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:07.719 need answered before we figure out whether this is the 0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:09.040 right next step or not. 0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:11.560 Also find out about the jihat on food trucks too. 0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.239 That is just that is just sill. 0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:17.799 I'm going to ask about that too. I'm not I'm 0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:19.880 not you know, look at me. 0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:23.479 From the data that they present presentation that they shared 0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.480 ahead of time, like, it's not making any material impact. 0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:28.640 So if it's not, then why are we doing it? 0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:32.000 Yeah, that would be Yeah, we've got speeders on the road, 0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:35.360 so we close the road. It's uh, everyone else wants 0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:37.839 to use it too. So and by and largest, ninety 0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:39.719 nine point nine percent of the people who are buying a 0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:42.359 hamburger or a slice of pizza or a taco are 0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:44.960 law abiding people. Let's deal with the point one percent 0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:47.120 that's caused the problems rather than shutting it down for 0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:49.920 everybody else. It's insane, is with that is Mark Jefferies. 0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:53.359 Glad to have you back on council and thanks again 0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:54.160 for joining the show. 0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:54.640 Go get him. 0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:58.239 Thanks, I appreciate takes care you too, you as well 0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:00.960 enjoy Yeah, he's got to get in there because they're 0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:02.520 about to fire this thing up to Yeah, just so 0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:05.480 many questions with us, like all right, Fountain Square, how 0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:07.359 did that work? Well, we don't know, we have the data, 0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:09.719 so now we're gonna do it on short vine. Like 0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:12.960 I legitimately know how people in my family, my nephew 0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:15.839 was looking at U see and was concerned about the crime. 0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:18.560 So he was somewhere else you wonder if this kind 0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:21.000 of behavior continues to keep up, how many people, how 0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:25.120 attractive the University of Cincinnati becomes, because I know, you know, 0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:27.200 I think it's like top five, top ten when it 0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:29.880 comes to dangerous campuses. That's not a good look for 0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:31.839 the city of Cincinnati. And you know when you get 0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:34.400 these videos of gunfire on short vine and people getting 0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:37.560 jacked over pizza and break ins, and you know, and 0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:42.040 again it's does that happen in urban campuses? Absolutely, that's 0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:44.880 part of it. But you know, this is Cincinnati, we 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.840 live here, and universites, you see, is a great institution. 0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:51.359 I think these students and certainly those parents who send 0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.200 their kids there from wherever it might be, even here 0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:57.160 in Cincinnati and beyond, deserve better than that. And you know, 0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:58.799 we need to take that seriously. And that's not just 0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:03.000 CPD University of Cincinnati police as well and our courts. 0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:06.560 We'll get a news update in and when a return. 0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:09.000 It's duly on the job career Wednesday. Here on the 0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:13.319 Scott Sloan Show seven hundred WLW, Julie Balki getting some 0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:16.440 well deserved time off. She's on a boat somewhere son 0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:19.840 in her cheeks so today we're going to talk about 0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:23.359 scams and looking for jobs. Something like over nine to 0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:26.960 ten gen zers and millennials are actively looking for a job. 0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:32.560 Francisco Javier Toben is from LinkedIn and that site, of course, 0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:36.160 like the Facebook of jobs if you will, scams are prevalent. 0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:38.080 We're going to talk about this morning. Welcome to the show. 0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:40.719 How are you hi, Good morning, Thank you for having me. 0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:43.520 Yeah, so there been on scams have been around since, 0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:45.879 you know, since the dawn of times and certainly before 0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:47.920 the dawn of the Internet. We are seeing more some 0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.920 sophisticated ones now. The one I've heard that that's pretty 0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:54.719 common is, you know, you'll you'll put your you know, 0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:57.640 be looking for a job somewhere online and maybe respond 0:50:57.680 --> 0:51:00.319 to something and it's a fishing scam, and that person, 0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:01.879 oh yeah, you're just the right person with the job, 0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:04.239 and give you all sorts of hope, because sometimes job 0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:07.719 seekers are pretty desperate if the job search goes on 0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:09.560 for a long time, and so they get their trust 0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:10.960 and they have them doing things. The next thing you 0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:14.280 don't involve, I don't know, sending them Apple gift cards 0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:15.759 or something like that. You know what I'm talking about. 0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:20.440 Absolutely absolutely. I think scams are you know, they've been 0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:26.760 around forever, and scammers are continuously evolving, becoming more sophisticated. 0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:31.400 They're they're using new technology, infusing it into their tactics 0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:35.200 and their ways and their strategies. So even and like 0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:38.120 you said, you know, job seekers need to be even 0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:42.680 extra vigilant, especially given that we have a more competitive 0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:45.799 job market. We're just seeing one opening for every two 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:46.880 applicants on LinkedIn. 0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:48.480 So this is a big shift. 0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:51.040 From twenty twenty one, in twenty twenty two, when we 0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:54.640 saw two jobs open for every applicant. So, but that said, 0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:58.319 we know scammers are increasingly looking to take advantage of 0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:01.680 these job seekers and why that's why it's even more 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:05.000 important to be aware and that LinkedIn Uh, this is 0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:08.200 a top priority for us. We're investing into the tools, 0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:11.160 into the systems, and in the teachers to be able 0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:15.680 to support authentic experiences so that job speakers can feel great, uh, 0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:20.040 feel confident to move forward, uh and in their jobs 0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:20.880 seeking experience. 0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:22.440 Yeah, and if you're not familiar me, it seems like 0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:26.239 everyone's on LinkedIn, not just you know, job minded career 0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:28.320 minded folks, but everybody almost have to have a LinkedIn 0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:31.200 profile these days, even if you're not looking for a job, 0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:32.960 just to have one, just to have a profile up there, 0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:35.120 and it's the social media job search. Of course, most 0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:36.880 people think about job boards, and there's a lot of 0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:39.560 them out there too, But there's one thing in common, 0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:41.880 and that are the fraudulent job opportunities out there. So 0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:44.360 give me some red flags to look out for, Francisco. 0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:47.640 Relative to that, what are some of the warning signs? 0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:50.520 Yeah, absolutely, there are some a few red sizes that 0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:52.839 professionals should keep in mind when they're searching for their 0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.759 next role. Well, first things first, we want to we 0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:59.400 want to make sure that job speakers trust their instinct. 0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:03.479 If something feels off, this sounds too good to be true, 0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:08.160 it likely is. Be mindful of hirers asking for payment. 0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:12.760 So when somebody asks for money or for payment up front, 0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:17.240 your eyebrows up. You should never give out your credit 0:53:17.280 --> 0:53:21.360 card private information because your social security number, banking information, 0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:25.040 et cetera. Also, be wary of roles that move you 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:28.359 very quickly through the interview process. So if you get 0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:33.120 a job offer after just one remote interview, it's rarely legitimate. Normally, 0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:37.480 you have several rounds of interviews with the recruiter. Then 0:53:37.480 --> 0:53:40.440 you'll speak to the man, the hiring manager, and then 0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:42.480 in many cases you'll get a third round in this 0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:45.440 interview where you speak to many different stakeholders so that 0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:49.279 you can get the green lights. Other red flags, bad 0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:56.719 grammar spelling, bad punctuation. It's usually indicative of a fraudulent 0:53:56.719 --> 0:53:59.880 ex sense or if somebody or recruiter looks to move 0:53:59.880 --> 0:54:05.239 the conversation off to another platform, which is usually indicative 0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:08.279 also of somebody looking to scam you. So if you 0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:11.879 encounter members of people that encounter anything that feels off 0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:13.920 on our platform, we want to make sure that they 0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:16.640 report it to us directly so they can click at 0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:18.759 the top right of the job or the message and 0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:20.959 other stuff that we can investigate and take action. 0:54:21.600 --> 0:54:24.400 You know, if I get an email phishing attempt and 0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:27.000 hear at iHeart my god. We spend a lot of 0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:29.239 time making sure everyone knows what to look for, what 0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:31.440 the warning signs are having to be fooled and tricked. 0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:34.279 And we have people catfishing us in the company, sending 0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:36.160 us fake emails to see if we click out and 0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:38.480 go aha. So you shouldn't be clicking on this stuff. 0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:42.560 So we just delete everything that's we're coming at it. So, 0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:44.600 but if I'm looking for a job now and you're 0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:46.520 telling me, and I think that maybe we bury the 0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:49.799 leader a little bit, Francisco. Is that you're saying, just 0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:51.480 a year ago or so, you know, we had two 0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:53.960 openings for every worker. Now it's foot flopped, it's got 0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:57.360 advantages back to in the game of career tennis. The 0:54:57.400 --> 0:54:59.759 advantage is now back to the employer. So you're saying, 0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:03.120 they're two job seekers for every job opportunity now, and 0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:05.399 so we're back to the way it's been for most 0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:08.360 of my life. If you are unemployed, let's say you 0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:11.399 lose your job or search job after a period of time, 0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:14.120 after three, four or five six months, you start getting desperate, 0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:19.120 and desperation is just right for being taken advantage of 0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:20.799 it. And I think that's the key difference when you talk 0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:24.520 about fishers and scammers and spear fishers and the like 0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:26.680 out in the real world on your phone with texts 0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:31.080 or phone calls or DMS or certainly emails, different than 0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:33.279 what you're actively looking for a job, because now you 0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:35.279 want something and you want to hope that somebody thinks 0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:38.120 you're valuable and therefore kind of like a you know, 0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:42.319 a love triangle or a bad relationship. That way, it's 0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:44.160 setting up for you to become a victim when it 0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:46.480 comes to looking for a job. That's a I think 0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:47.640 the psychological side of it. 0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:50.840 Now, let me tell you broke that down absolutely perfectly. 0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:53.279 It's it's it's a wild wild west out there. 0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:53.719 Yep. 0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:59.440 With increasing use of the Internet, new platforms and schools, 0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:02.520 like I said that new new technologies is like generative AI. 0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:07.360 You know, this is going to keep going, and scammers 0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:09.720 are not going to stop. They're going to continue to evolve. 0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:13.840 They're going to continue to find clever ways to trick people. 0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:16.960 So that's why we need to when we when we 0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:19.920 encounter something that feels off, just take just take a 0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:23.720 moment and pause, right, you know, pause and think. Sometimes 0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:26.880 we were very eager to move forward in the process, 0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:29.879 but you know, just giving the new realities that we're 0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:32.799 seeing and the data that we're seeing, is it's just 0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:35.480 important to be a little slower, be a little minafle, 0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:37.920 and and trust your instincts. 0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:42.360 As I said, yeah, I think also it's probably important 0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:46.360 to maybe have someone or a friend circle, a colleague circle, 0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:49.880 your network something like somebody you could take and go, hey, look, 0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:52.080 kick the tires on this for me? Am I crazy? 0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:53.759 Am I not seeing? Because sometimes you get into the 0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:56.200 you know, you're inside the aquarium and you can't see 0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:58.399 so good. You need somebody from the outside to go, hey, man, 0:56:58.440 --> 0:56:59.880 that looks like a scam to me, A better be 0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:02.239 careful and maybe you need somebody in the outside for 0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:04.360 wakel well, whether it's a spouse or a relative or 0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:05.320 someone along my line. 0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:08.800 Yeah, absolutely lean on your network, being on the people 0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:12.239 that you know, that that care about you, that that 0:57:12.239 --> 0:57:14.279 that want to see you succeed. I think these people 0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:17.240 are gonna give you an honest feedback, you know, and 0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:19.920 maybe let you know, hey, this feels off. So I 0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:22.520 always say, you know, go for a second opinion, go 0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:24.960 for a third opinion. It's going to help you ground 0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:28.720 yourself right. And if and if it still feels off, 0:57:28.760 --> 0:57:30.520 you know you can. You can also do a Google 0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:33.760 search to see what type of trends, what type of 0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:37.840 skins are happening mm hm. More often not many of 0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:41.480 these scams are reported through the Better Business Bureau. There's 0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:45.520 information and warnings out there that go a little bit 0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:48.040 deeper into what these scams are and in the different 0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:52.080 taxic tactics they use. So there's information out there. Lean 0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:53.440 on the people that you know, and lean on the 0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:54.840 information on the Internet as well. 0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:58.840 Francisco Javier Tobaan is a career expert at LinkedIn and 0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:02.640 LinkedIn is the well the social media of job recruiters 0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:04.600 and searchers and the like. That's where you go. Make 0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:06.880 sure you have a presence on LinkedIn if you're looking 0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:08.760 for a job or you're in the you know, you're 0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:11.200 in your working years and that's important to have that. 0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:13.440 But new survey comes out eighty five percent of workers 0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:16.120 here in the United States are thinking about changing jobs 0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:19.080 this year. That's a twenty seven percent increase from the 0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:22.000 previous year. And that number is nine and ten among 0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:24.960 gen zers, which is damn you're close to almost all 0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:26.920 of them looking for a job this year, and millennials 0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:29.600 too is pretty high above nine and ten. And with 0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:32.480 that comes scammers. Because we're starting to see the number 0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:35.760 of jobs dwindle. We're also seeing the number of employees 0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:37.680 go Okay, now it's I'm not I don't have my 0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:39.760 pick of the litter anymore, and it's now starting to 0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:43.280 become more like we've seen in previous years where you 0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:46.280 have more people looking for jobs and actual jobs out there, 0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:49.960 So that then comes with desperation and looking for a 0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:52.160 job and trying to dance yourself, and that means you're 0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:55.520 setting yourself up a scam possibly. But the whole thing 0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:59.360 with generative AI, as you mentioned Francisco, that's absolutely frightening 0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:02.040 right there and what we've seen just so far in 0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:04.640 its infancy. What are you prepared for in the future here? 0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:07.080 As you sure you guys are looking months or years ahead. 0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:09.840 So where you think generative AI is going on, how 0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:12.240 it's going to affect the job market and job seekers 0:59:12.280 --> 0:59:15.320 and that dance. But specifically when it comes to scammers, 0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:16.720 what do you think is going to happen? 0:59:17.320 --> 0:59:20.919 Yeah, well, we're using generative AI to infuse it into 0:59:20.960 --> 0:59:23.840 our products to make our members more productive and successful 0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:27.000 in their job experience. But we're also using generative AI 0:59:27.200 --> 0:59:32.040 in different new technologies to evolve our AI defenses so 0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:36.480 that we can better detect fraudulent attempts. We can better 0:59:37.000 --> 0:59:41.640 detect seak accounts that bad actors are using in order 0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:48.120 to attack or seek out vulnerable job seekers. So this 0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:52.880 is something that we're constantly looking to infuse into our 0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:55.280 defenses as we know it's going to be help us 0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:58.920 be more effective along the way. Another way that we're 0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:05.640 using technology is through verification. So we offer free verification 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:09.200 to all US to most US members if they qualify. 1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:13.880 It's a free service. Members can easily go on LinkedIn, 1:00:13.920 --> 1:00:17.800 dot com, slash verify, verify their own account. But as 1:00:17.840 --> 1:00:21.000 their job searching, they can look out for the great 1:00:21.080 --> 1:00:24.000 shield next to a person's name. That means that person 1:00:24.120 --> 1:00:26.960 has verified at least one element of their profile to 1:00:27.120 --> 1:00:30.840 be their identity, to be their workplace verification. Or if 1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:33.160 they see a job with a shield, it means that 1:00:33.240 --> 1:00:35.800 job has been verified, that recruiter has been verified. 1:00:35.840 --> 1:00:36.240 Oh cool. 1:00:36.360 --> 1:00:38.919 So it's an extra people of confidence so that people 1:00:39.000 --> 1:00:42.920 can move forward with ease and they can go forward 1:00:42.920 --> 1:00:45.480 with their job searching experience with confidence as well. 1:00:45.600 --> 1:00:48.200 Exactly imagine most people don't have the time to research 1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:50.640 whether or not a company and that represent as legitimate. 1:00:50.800 --> 1:00:52.800 I'm sure the scammers are pretty smart about that that 1:00:52.840 --> 1:00:55.480 they'll steal the identity of a company and attach themselves 1:00:55.480 --> 1:00:57.760 to it and make it look like an internal email 1:00:57.840 --> 1:00:59.840 or whatever it is, when when not actually doing that 1:00:59.880 --> 1:01:02.840 and so those are some of the warning signs. What 1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:04.840 are the real quick here, because I know we've got 1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:07.760 to get going. Most popular scams you're seeing today when 1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:08.800 it comes to job searches. 1:01:10.040 --> 1:01:14.360 Yeah, of course, aside from like financial requests, we're also 1:01:14.400 --> 1:01:18.959 seeing cryptocurrency scams where scammers ask them to down those 1:01:19.000 --> 1:01:23.960 specific types of software. As you also hint it hinted out. 1:01:24.240 --> 1:01:28.440 We've also seen gift cards, gift card requests or receep 1:01:28.480 --> 1:01:32.600 alone a prize or different types of winnings. But most 1:01:32.600 --> 1:01:37.840 indicative and specifically on LinkedIn. Romantic messages or gestures with 1:01:38.040 --> 1:01:42.680 which are inappropriate, they're not allowed on LinkedIn. So normally 1:01:42.720 --> 1:01:47.840 many of these scammers, they use bots as well, automated 1:01:47.880 --> 1:01:52.000 generative AI bots that use to uh to to charm 1:01:52.640 --> 1:01:56.520 potential victims over a long period of time. They call 1:01:56.600 --> 1:02:00.080 these pig butchering scams where they gain trust so for 1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:03.440 months and months, and then sooner or later, you know 1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:08.240 they have enough trust equity with that person for these 1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:10.200 to be able to hand over the keys to a 1:02:10.200 --> 1:02:15.160 cryptocurrency account, et cetera. So you know it's something as 1:02:15.200 --> 1:02:17.080 I said, you know, most of most of the time 1:02:17.560 --> 1:02:20.080 these things can be prevented and we're doing the job 1:02:20.160 --> 1:02:22.360 in the work in order to be able to surface 1:02:22.920 --> 1:02:25.400 more of these authenticity signals to our members so that 1:02:25.440 --> 1:02:29.560 they can make educated decisions as they navigate their job 1:02:29.600 --> 1:02:30.320 search experience. 1:02:30.400 --> 1:02:32.600 Yeah, I think by now the whole gift card scam 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:34.680 that people would go man when they start asking for 1:02:34.720 --> 1:02:38.959 an iTunes gift card, it's I'm looking for a job. 1:02:39.360 --> 1:02:41.040 Why am I giving you something. I'm the one who 1:02:41.120 --> 1:02:43.040 needs the job. I want to be hired, and you 1:02:43.080 --> 1:02:45.480 give me money. I shouldn't be giving you anything in 1:02:45.520 --> 1:02:47.080 that regarding you have. People do it all the time. 1:02:47.120 --> 1:02:47.920 It's the damnedest thing. 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:51.680 It's so funny. And they also want one other thing. 1:02:51.680 --> 1:02:53.080 And I want to make sure to call this out. 1:02:53.160 --> 1:02:55.280 Sometimes they send you a check like a check. Pay 1:02:55.400 --> 1:02:58.920 here's a right send new money, so buy that and 1:02:58.960 --> 1:03:01.520 then that check founts back. We want to make sure 1:03:01.560 --> 1:03:03.280 that you know, and you're going to be in charge 1:03:03.320 --> 1:03:05.919 of you're going to be in debt with the bank 1:03:06.000 --> 1:03:08.600 to pay that to pay that back. So I'd just 1:03:08.640 --> 1:03:09.600 be very mindful of those. 1:03:10.560 --> 1:03:13.160 Yeah, yeah, you see, it's it's and there are a 1:03:13.160 --> 1:03:15.280 lot of smart people that get pulled in by this trap. 1:03:15.280 --> 1:03:17.000 Believe it or not, so just start to look out 1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:20.520 for again. Francisco Javier toob On with LinkedIn, Thanks so 1:03:20.600 --> 1:03:21.160 much for the info. 1:03:21.240 --> 1:03:22.600 Appreciate it absolutely. 1:03:22.680 --> 1:03:24.400 Thanks thanks for having me. Have a great day. 1:03:24.760 --> 1:03:26.040 News on the way in just a couple of minutes 1:03:26.040 --> 1:03:28.480 on seven hundred W Dow Scott Sloan show, of course 1:03:28.520 --> 1:03:30.240 the very Latest and What's happening in the world today 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:31.840 earlier If you missed it, it'll be in the podcast 1:03:31.920 --> 1:03:34.800 following the show at noon today via the iHeart Radio app. 1:03:35.040 --> 1:03:37.880 And that was Ohio Senator Steve Huffman on the show. 1:03:37.960 --> 1:03:39.880 I'm sure you heard this news today if you enjoy 1:03:39.960 --> 1:03:42.680 those THHD infused beverages. Remember we had that big battle 1:03:42.680 --> 1:03:47.240 over intoxicating hemp laws and what wound up happening was 1:03:47.280 --> 1:03:50.560 we had a ninety day stay by the Governor of 1:03:50.680 --> 1:03:52.560 band and we'll allegedly we're going to be able to 1:03:52.560 --> 1:03:54.600 sell this stuff. And we had companies like fifty West 1:03:54.680 --> 1:03:56.440 on the show talking about how much money they're going 1:03:56.520 --> 1:03:59.120 to lose because the craft beer movement is kind of fading. 1:03:59.120 --> 1:04:02.520 While it's fading bad, but THHC infused products are taking 1:04:02.560 --> 1:04:05.680 its place. People like the buzz better than they do alcohol. 1:04:05.720 --> 1:04:07.640 They don't feel as bad the next day after drinking 1:04:07.640 --> 1:04:11.320 a few of these, and the end result is it 1:04:11.360 --> 1:04:13.600 seems to work pretty well. Of course, there was a 1:04:13.600 --> 1:04:15.080 little poll with Hempen there and a whole bunch of 1:04:15.080 --> 1:04:16.520 the thing in long story short as any way, it 1:04:16.560 --> 1:04:19.080 was the THC adult beverage ban that was good, and 1:04:19.120 --> 1:04:20.880 then the ninety day ban that was back on again 1:04:20.880 --> 1:04:23.240 with a court order, new legislation company fix the issue 1:04:23.280 --> 1:04:26.320 great In today we find out, according to Steve Hoffman, 1:04:26.800 --> 1:04:29.439 that the lawmakers Mitch McConnell and Ran Paul are fighting 1:04:29.480 --> 1:04:31.640 over this in the Senate. And I thought the government 1:04:31.760 --> 1:04:34.200 was closed, but apparently they can get together and discuss 1:04:34.240 --> 1:04:36.920 things that screw up our lives. And now we may 1:04:36.960 --> 1:04:38.960 be back to square one on this whole thing, because 1:04:39.000 --> 1:04:40.960 the government may come in and Mitch McColl's going, you know, 1:04:40.960 --> 1:04:42.960 this stuff could be bad for kids. We've got to 1:04:42.960 --> 1:04:47.480 ban it, just like Mike DeWine said, that precipitated our legislation. Unfortunately, 1:04:47.800 --> 1:04:50.360 as you know, federal law overrides day law. And if 1:04:50.400 --> 1:04:53.880 the Feds ban that the THHC infused drink products, that 1:04:53.960 --> 1:04:58.320 kills literally a thirty billion dollar industry and growing in Ohio, 1:04:58.480 --> 1:05:02.560 Kentucky and Indiana. A great discussion with him at nine 1:05:02.640 --> 1:05:05.240 oh six this morning. Again catch on the podcast following 1:05:05.280 --> 1:05:08.120 the show. Just ahead, speaking of Supreme Court related stuff, 1:05:08.800 --> 1:05:12.080 there's a battle brewing over Trump's tariffs, namely and his 1:05:12.360 --> 1:05:15.400 solicitor generally even admitted this and saying that, well, a 1:05:15.680 --> 1:05:17.680 tariff is kind of like a tax. The only problem 1:05:17.720 --> 1:05:21.160 with that is, according to the Constitution, only Congress can 1:05:21.200 --> 1:05:24.080 lovey taxes. No other branch of government executive, judicial, can 1:05:24.120 --> 1:05:27.000 do that. So what happens to the tariffs? And some 1:05:27.440 --> 1:05:30.400 Supreme Court watchers believe that indications are there that they 1:05:30.440 --> 1:05:33.000 may actually strike the tariffs down sometime soon. What does 1:05:33.040 --> 1:05:35.240 this mean? I've got a guy and to talk about that. 1:05:35.280 --> 1:05:37.400 I got a guy for that. He'll explain it, why 1:05:37.400 --> 1:05:40.040 it makes sense to you and also what the bottom 1:05:40.120 --> 1:05:41.840 line is for you. Coming up next on the show 1:05:41.880 --> 1:05:44.040 after news on the Home of the Best Bengals coverage 1:05:44.040 --> 1:05:45.560 seven hundred WW since now. 1:05:45.760 --> 1:05:48.919 Want to American, He's got. 1:05:48.880 --> 1:05:51.400 Flown on seven hundred W and l will be many 1:05:51.400 --> 1:05:53.920 things happening. The Supreme Court has been busy. They're hearing 1:05:54.040 --> 1:05:57.400 arguments on the constitutionality President Trump's tariffs, and the early 1:05:57.440 --> 1:06:00.000 indication at least is a few days ago, it seems 1:06:00.160 --> 1:06:02.120 to be in jeopardy the tariffs. So some of the 1:06:02.200 --> 1:06:05.920 conservative justice even seem skeptical that Trump has the power 1:06:06.040 --> 1:06:10.680 to impose these far reaching tariffs and a ruling could 1:06:10.720 --> 1:06:14.400 certainly hurt, if not kill, his signature second term priority 1:06:14.480 --> 1:06:18.080 on that with analysis is the director of Constitutional Studies 1:06:18.080 --> 1:06:23.680 at the Manhattan Institute, Elias Shapiro. Welcome, good morning, Good morning, Scott. 1:06:24.240 --> 1:06:27.880 Yeah, not quite sure what theory they're going to rest on, 1:06:28.000 --> 1:06:31.440 but a majority of the justicees definitely seemed skeptical that 1:06:31.520 --> 1:06:34.560 at least under this particular statute, which has never been 1:06:34.640 --> 1:06:37.040 used for tariffs, that the president could do what he's doing. 1:06:37.400 --> 1:06:39.880 Yeah, the bottom line here, So we saw that at 1:06:40.000 --> 1:06:42.080 least two of the likely swing by the Conservatives, it'd 1:06:42.080 --> 1:06:46.120 be John Roberts and Justice Barrick Camy Comme. Barrett indicated 1:06:46.160 --> 1:06:50.640 that maybe they're not inclined to see Trump's side of 1:06:50.680 --> 1:06:53.480 this thing. Roberts quote was, the vehicle is in position 1:06:53.560 --> 1:06:56.040 of taxes on Americans, and that's always been the core 1:06:56.120 --> 1:06:59.200 power of Congress. Even one of Trump's attorney's admit, I 1:06:59.200 --> 1:07:01.320 believe it was attorney admitted that this was a tax 1:07:01.360 --> 1:07:03.240 the fact of text. Does this undermine the whole thing? 1:07:04.760 --> 1:07:09.720 Yeah, the Congress cannot delegate its power to tax, and 1:07:09.800 --> 1:07:14.120 presumably that includes the power to tariff, although other statutes 1:07:14.280 --> 1:07:17.800 that are more narrower have not been challenged in the past, 1:07:17.800 --> 1:07:21.160 and presidents going back, you know, decades. 1:07:21.000 --> 1:07:21.480 Have used it. 1:07:21.760 --> 1:07:25.280 In fact, the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett later said, well, 1:07:25.880 --> 1:07:26.640 the Supreme. 1:07:26.320 --> 1:07:27.240 Court and validate this. 1:07:27.600 --> 1:07:30.439 We have other ways of accomplishing pretty much the same thing, 1:07:30.840 --> 1:07:32.400 and that is more. 1:07:32.280 --> 1:07:33.000 Or less correct. 1:07:33.040 --> 1:07:35.200 If the tariffs are more targeted, you know, China for 1:07:35.280 --> 1:07:39.000 national security reasons, other countries for retaliation, or whatever the 1:07:39.040 --> 1:07:39.680 case might be. 1:07:40.240 --> 1:07:42.600 There are ways of running. 1:07:42.320 --> 1:07:46.120 A tariff re dream through the Executive Office, but probably 1:07:46.160 --> 1:07:47.560 not this particular statute. 1:07:47.640 --> 1:07:51.360 The Solicitor General Souer read a letter from James Madison 1:07:51.400 --> 1:07:54.560 that it felt like, as I mentioned, undermined their argument 1:07:54.600 --> 1:07:58.280 in saying that, well, a tariff is attacks. Has that 1:07:58.320 --> 1:08:00.600 been overblown that quote or is that something that is 1:08:00.640 --> 1:08:02.800 going to weigh in the minds of the justices. 1:08:03.680 --> 1:08:06.360 Well, it's all part of the same puzzle. So the 1:08:06.640 --> 1:08:10.640 first level analysis is the text of this statutet the 1:08:10.640 --> 1:08:14.320 International Economic Emergency Prevention Act ii EPA as it's called, 1:08:14.800 --> 1:08:17.040 and which lists a whole bunch of things that the 1:08:17.080 --> 1:08:23.559 president can do in an emergency block embargo, do various, 1:08:23.720 --> 1:08:26.240 but the tax is not listed. And so lawyers, there's 1:08:26.640 --> 1:08:28.519 a tool of interpretation that says, if you have a 1:08:28.520 --> 1:08:30.960 big long list and what you want to do is 1:08:31.000 --> 1:08:34.360 not included, well that's a pretty good indication that that 1:08:34.120 --> 1:08:37.160 there's no authority for that particular thing. So that's especially 1:08:37.200 --> 1:08:41.080 what Justice Barrett was skeptical about. And then beyond that 1:08:42.000 --> 1:08:47.320 is this constitutional delegation of taxing authority that we just 1:08:47.360 --> 1:08:50.799 discussed that for example, Justice Gorsich was particularly skeptical about, 1:08:51.040 --> 1:08:55.679 and Chief Justice Roberts he just thought of as as 1:08:56.120 --> 1:09:00.760 you just mentioned, this is a major question of economic significance, 1:09:00.760 --> 1:09:05.280 and unless Congress speaks explicitly, he's going to be doubtful 1:09:05.320 --> 1:09:08.000 that the executive can just assume that power. 1:09:08.240 --> 1:09:12.559 Ellie Shapiro Manhattan instued one of the legal framework questions 1:09:12.560 --> 1:09:14.559 you're going to hear thrown around during this decision. It's 1:09:14.600 --> 1:09:16.880 a big one too, because this is a lovely cornerstone 1:09:16.880 --> 1:09:19.439 of his second administration, the tariffs, and I's struck down 1:09:19.479 --> 1:09:22.320 by the Court that's certainly going to have implications to 1:09:22.400 --> 1:09:26.040 the markets and everything else. It's called the Major Questions Doctrine, 1:09:26.280 --> 1:09:29.559 which I understand is a relatively new piece of judicial framework. 1:09:29.680 --> 1:09:31.960 Can you explain what it is and how they developed 1:09:32.000 --> 1:09:33.040 it and whyde applies here? 1:09:34.960 --> 1:09:37.160 Apparently I got way ahead of you, because that's what 1:09:37.200 --> 1:09:41.600 I was describing that that you know, that's I was 1:09:41.600 --> 1:09:42.880 trying to kind of break it down. 1:09:43.280 --> 1:09:43.439 Yeah. 1:09:44.880 --> 1:09:45.280 Developed. 1:09:45.840 --> 1:09:48.920 This is especially the developed in the last decade or so. 1:09:49.360 --> 1:09:54.000 When there's a question of of major political social economics significance, 1:09:55.640 --> 1:09:58.479 unless Congress has specified it, they're not going to defer 1:09:58.600 --> 1:10:01.679 to the executive branch about that. At Chief Justice Roberts, 1:10:01.680 --> 1:10:06.720 the middle of the court, Roberts Barrett Cavanaugh are especially 1:10:07.520 --> 1:10:11.040 concerned about that, although in this case Cavanaugh, who's thought 1:10:11.080 --> 1:10:14.960 as a median vote, seemed to be more towards the 1:10:15.320 --> 1:10:17.760 government side, more deferential to executive power. 1:10:17.880 --> 1:10:20.679 Okay, got it. This sounds like jeopardy there. The answer 1:10:20.760 --> 1:10:25.320 was a question Ellie Sapiro at Manhattan Institute on the 1:10:25.360 --> 1:10:28.679 show this Morning on seven hundred WLW is it tough 1:10:28.720 --> 1:10:31.000 to read the tea leaves? And saying, well, you know, 1:10:31.320 --> 1:10:34.519 Justice Amy Coney Barrett said this, and Justice John Roberts 1:10:34.520 --> 1:10:37.360 said this, And you go and you start to how 1:10:37.360 --> 1:10:39.360 often does that turned out to be true? Because their 1:10:39.439 --> 1:10:42.720 job is to ask probing questions. Is it presumptuous to 1:10:42.800 --> 1:10:44.400 kind of read into that like we're doing right now? 1:10:45.520 --> 1:10:48.479 Well, I mean, my prediction is worth what you're paying 1:10:48.520 --> 1:10:53.120 for it. And you know, I have a quote unquote expertise. 1:10:53.160 --> 1:10:55.400 I followed the court. I filed briefs myself. 1:10:55.439 --> 1:10:58.839 I have written a book about the Supreme Court, Supreme disorder, 1:10:58.840 --> 1:11:02.640 about judicial nomination and the politics thereof you do your 1:11:02.680 --> 1:11:06.559 best and the justices in the end can surprise. Oral 1:11:06.640 --> 1:11:09.360 argument is the tip of the iceberg. It's it's what 1:11:09.400 --> 1:11:12.879 we see. But uh, you know, the briefs are important, 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:15.599 and the justices discussions and the drafts of the opinions 1:11:15.600 --> 1:11:18.240 going back and forth. So nobody's ever going to give 1:11:18.240 --> 1:11:19.360 you one hundred percent certainty. 1:11:19.560 --> 1:11:19.960 Right. 1:11:21.640 --> 1:11:24.280 It wasn't long ago that the Court struck down Biden's 1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:28.600 student loan forgiveness, And does that factor into this is 1:11:28.640 --> 1:11:30.439 a shadow the upcoming decision? 1:11:31.240 --> 1:11:32.080 I think it does. 1:11:32.200 --> 1:11:34.840 I think it does, And a lot of commentators have 1:11:34.960 --> 1:11:38.880 compared it to that and other ways in which the 1:11:38.920 --> 1:11:42.080 court has gone against the executive brands the last couple 1:11:42.160 --> 1:11:42.960 of presidencies. 1:11:44.560 --> 1:11:44.720 Uh. 1:11:45.200 --> 1:11:47.439 You know, they're they're deferential to a point. 1:11:48.040 --> 1:11:48.400 Uh. 1:11:48.439 --> 1:11:51.599 And you know that's why the Solsier General, the government's lawyer, 1:11:51.720 --> 1:11:54.320 kept pressing about that this is a foreign policy issue 1:11:54.320 --> 1:11:57.160 because the president typically gets more difference from courts on 1:11:57.240 --> 1:11:58.800 foreign policy national security. 1:11:59.320 --> 1:12:01.479 But there's this important statute involved. 1:12:02.000 --> 1:12:02.360 Uh. 1:12:02.400 --> 1:12:05.640 And you know, just like Biden's. 1:12:05.560 --> 1:12:09.280 Reading, his administration's reading of the relevant statute for student 1:12:09.360 --> 1:12:14.880 loans or for the vaccine mandate for private employers. The 1:12:14.920 --> 1:12:17.760 court said that that was stretching the statute, reading into 1:12:17.760 --> 1:12:20.120 it things that weren't there. It seems to be that's 1:12:20.120 --> 1:12:20.880 where they're going here. 1:12:21.479 --> 1:12:24.160 Yeah, we mentioned the Slicitor General tried to distinguish the 1:12:24.280 --> 1:12:27.759 terrorists and taxes, but you know, the economists and apparently 1:12:27.800 --> 1:12:31.080 several justices see them as is the same thing. And 1:12:31.160 --> 1:12:33.519 how does that how does that work with this court 1:12:33.560 --> 1:12:37.679 and constitutional interpretation and also looking at well economic reality 1:12:37.720 --> 1:12:41.360 because the market's obviously watching this very very closely. 1:12:42.360 --> 1:12:45.120 The I mean, the president himself sort of undermines his 1:12:45.160 --> 1:12:47.360 own case because he brags about all the revenue that's 1:12:47.400 --> 1:12:50.000 being brought in by the tariffs, and the legal definition 1:12:50.040 --> 1:12:55.760 of a tax is a a legislative action that that 1:12:55.840 --> 1:13:02.040 raises revenue. So, uh, you know, I'm even less of 1:13:02.080 --> 1:13:04.439 a good predictor of the markets. Otherwise I'd be something 1:13:04.439 --> 1:13:08.160 other than a prostitutional lawyer. Right, But it seems like 1:13:08.760 --> 1:13:13.439 large employers have already large large manufacturers, producers, companies have 1:13:13.479 --> 1:13:16.840 already priced in the cost of the tariffs and passed 1:13:16.840 --> 1:13:20.479 them along to consumers. That's why these cases have been 1:13:20.479 --> 1:13:24.080 brought by small businesses. And so how the markets will react, 1:13:24.560 --> 1:13:26.320 I don't know. Is all of this already priced in. 1:13:26.400 --> 1:13:29.240 Will getting rid of the tariff, the uncertainty over that, 1:13:29.320 --> 1:13:32.559 will that harm the markets versus not having this extra 1:13:32.640 --> 1:13:35.920 tax to liberate the attax liberate the markets. 1:13:35.680 --> 1:13:37.760 That's not clear. Plus there's the remedial points. 1:13:37.760 --> 1:13:40.000 So it's not just that the Supreme Court rules the 1:13:40.040 --> 1:13:43.160 tariff is invalid and all of a sudden everybody instantly 1:13:43.160 --> 1:13:45.800 gets a refund. There's a whole big question of how 1:13:45.880 --> 1:13:49.280 you would you reverse that. Does each company that's paid 1:13:49.280 --> 1:13:51.760 a tariff have to make a new claim? Do the 1:13:51.800 --> 1:13:55.360 lower courts have power? And almost certainly the Supreme Court 1:13:55.400 --> 1:13:57.080 is not going to enter a remedial order. They're going 1:13:57.120 --> 1:14:00.000 to leave that remand that back to the lower court 1:14:00.080 --> 1:14:00.639 to figure out. 1:14:00.760 --> 1:14:03.599 Well, even bigger than that, do justices look at the 1:14:03.640 --> 1:14:05.960 after effects of the decision in that you know, the 1:14:06.000 --> 1:14:08.759 businesses have already paid these tariffs, What does that what's 1:14:08.800 --> 1:14:10.920 the refrunt process look like? Or do we keep their 1:14:10.960 --> 1:14:12.800 money or do they get to the nuances of that 1:14:12.960 --> 1:14:15.160 or they just rule on this decision and let everyone 1:14:15.160 --> 1:14:16.160 else sort that out after. 1:14:17.280 --> 1:14:19.320 Yeah, it's a it's a it's a separate issue. There's 1:14:19.360 --> 1:14:22.680 the issue of remedies and there are you know, the 1:14:22.720 --> 1:14:25.920 government when when it was asking for a stay of 1:14:26.000 --> 1:14:28.880 the lower court rule and blocking the tariffs, said oh, well, 1:14:28.920 --> 1:14:30.519 if we turn out to be wrong, we can always 1:14:30.520 --> 1:14:31.240 refund the money. 1:14:31.280 --> 1:14:33.920 So they kind of hurt. 1:14:33.760 --> 1:14:37.080 Their own long term interest by by arguing that in 1:14:37.160 --> 1:14:39.759 the in the short term and theory, in this digital age, 1:14:39.800 --> 1:14:42.559 everyone has records of who paid what, and you should 1:14:42.640 --> 1:14:44.800 be able to if there's a court order to for 1:14:44.880 --> 1:14:47.600 all the customs inspectors and whatnot to just reverse the 1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:50.599 charge and you know, make the make the wire go 1:14:50.640 --> 1:14:53.120 in the other direction that that should be done. I mean, 1:14:53.160 --> 1:14:56.120 it might be more complicated than certain other things, but 1:14:56.560 --> 1:14:57.880 it's not an impossible task. 1:14:57.960 --> 1:15:02.719 Hilly Shapiro, Manhattan Institute. The Supreme Court weighing Trump's tariffs 1:15:02.840 --> 1:15:05.559 right now, and it is. It's hanging in the balance. 1:15:06.120 --> 1:15:06.200 Uh. 1:15:06.360 --> 1:15:09.160 The early indication seemed that at least a couple of 1:15:09.240 --> 1:15:13.000 more conservative members of the panel are leaning towards knocking 1:15:13.000 --> 1:15:16.280 this thing down. But we'll see again as they contemplate this. 1:15:16.400 --> 1:15:18.960 And there's also the precedent here too. If the court 1:15:19.000 --> 1:15:23.000 rules against Trump, what does that mean for future presidents 1:15:23.040 --> 1:15:25.719 or parties or who want to use that executive authority 1:15:25.760 --> 1:15:26.959 on economic policies. 1:15:28.000 --> 1:15:31.120 That question came up that if we allow this, would 1:15:31.120 --> 1:15:35.520 a future president be able to declare an international emergency 1:15:35.880 --> 1:15:40.439 for climate change and therefore tax car companies and other 1:15:40.800 --> 1:15:44.960 you know, manufacturers that contribute to climate change. And the 1:15:44.960 --> 1:15:48.559 Solcier General said potentially yes. So I don't think that's 1:15:48.560 --> 1:15:49.639 going to sit very well. 1:15:50.240 --> 1:15:52.360 Yeah, we'll see how it plays out here too. It's 1:15:52.360 --> 1:15:55.280 certainly interesting. And the timeline on this, because we never 1:15:55.360 --> 1:15:57.000 know when they're going to make a ruling on this. 1:15:57.640 --> 1:15:58.400 How long could this go? 1:15:59.600 --> 1:16:01.120 Well, they could. 1:16:01.000 --> 1:16:03.640 Have a decision by Christmas. It shouldn't take long to 1:16:04.080 --> 1:16:05.960 figure out if they want to get it out quick. 1:16:06.840 --> 1:16:10.120 But there's another case that's going to be argued next 1:16:10.160 --> 1:16:13.880 month on the president's power to remove the heads of 1:16:14.000 --> 1:16:18.599 independent agencies the National Labor Relations Board, the Federal Trade Commission, 1:16:18.720 --> 1:16:22.720 other alphabet agencies as they're called. And it looks like 1:16:22.960 --> 1:16:25.400 that case is going to go for the president for 1:16:25.520 --> 1:16:29.040 the administration, So they might want to pair those two 1:16:29.080 --> 1:16:31.080 if they're going to invalidate the if they're going to 1:16:31.080 --> 1:16:33.400 block the tariff, they might want to pair it with that, 1:16:33.520 --> 1:16:36.040 And so you have one win, one loss for the administration, 1:16:36.360 --> 1:16:39.120 in which case it would spill into January February. 1:16:39.200 --> 1:16:40.880 Yeah, it seems like they were I mean in the first 1:16:40.880 --> 1:16:43.040 three here is that they're uncomfortable with giving him carte 1:16:43.080 --> 1:16:45.840 blanche to apply tariffs whenever he wants. It seems like 1:16:45.880 --> 1:16:48.120 they pull that back someone at the very least. 1:16:49.200 --> 1:16:54.680 Again, that's the conventional wisdom as we've been discussing, and 1:16:54.720 --> 1:16:58.120 there are I think polymarket or there's some way you 1:16:58.160 --> 1:17:00.160 can bet on court opinions it might be off or 1:17:00.240 --> 1:17:03.680 or something like that. So you know, that's not not 1:17:03.800 --> 1:17:05.879 a bad way of checking what the wisdom of clouds 1:17:06.000 --> 1:17:06.320 might be. 1:17:06.960 --> 1:17:09.519 But uh, you know, there just like. 1:17:09.439 --> 1:17:11.559 In the NFL. The reason you know, any given Sunday, 1:17:11.560 --> 1:17:13.120 anything can happen. And so that's why the reason we 1:17:13.120 --> 1:17:15.960 play these games is you know, they could they could 1:17:16.400 --> 1:17:17.639 take it in a completely different. 1:17:17.400 --> 1:17:19.479 Direction, all due respect, but you know, we we often 1:17:19.479 --> 1:17:21.600 defer to the pundit class, like for example, Trump is 1:17:21.640 --> 1:17:23.160 going to you know, ext remember, is going to strike 1:17:23.200 --> 1:17:25.760 down gay marriage, and of course they went, now, we're not, 1:17:25.840 --> 1:17:28.280 We're not doing that, and was at a pleasant surprise, 1:17:28.400 --> 1:17:31.800 Not really, it wasn't a surprise at all that that 1:17:31.920 --> 1:17:34.240 would that would be almost impossible to onto us side 1:17:34.240 --> 1:17:36.519 of your scope of what we're talking about here. But 1:17:36.840 --> 1:17:38.760 I think that applies to some degree as well. They're 1:17:38.760 --> 1:17:40.920 not going to go there. You know, the idea that 1:17:40.960 --> 1:17:42.800 somehow they're just going to do everything Trump wants to 1:17:42.840 --> 1:17:44.080 do is it's rather silly. 1:17:45.200 --> 1:17:46.639 Yeah, that's absolutely right. 1:17:46.680 --> 1:17:49.000 And and there's all these media narratives gended up that 1:17:49.040 --> 1:17:51.640 this is Trump's court and that's just not true. What 1:17:51.720 --> 1:17:56.200 they've been ruling is to allow the the president to 1:17:56.200 --> 1:17:57.960 reorganize the executive branch. 1:17:58.000 --> 1:18:00.000 He's the head of the executive branch, he controls it. 1:18:00.800 --> 1:18:07.360 When he steps over into violating individual rights or stepping 1:18:07.360 --> 1:18:11.960 into legislative territory. That's when the administration has taken its 1:18:12.000 --> 1:18:14.080 losses and they've been strategic about which case is to 1:18:14.680 --> 1:18:16.559 bring up to the Supreme Court, which is why they 1:18:16.560 --> 1:18:19.920 have a very high win rate thus far in the 1:18:19.960 --> 1:18:22.200 first ten months of the second Trump administration. 1:18:22.280 --> 1:18:24.240 Yeah, I'll be interesting. We're all following this case because 1:18:24.280 --> 1:18:27.360 this is the cornerstone of a second administration, is the tariffs. 1:18:27.360 --> 1:18:30.519 And as we said, it's going to take a long time. 1:18:30.560 --> 1:18:32.559 But if the court strikes us down, it also gives 1:18:32.600 --> 1:18:35.479 him cover, I think too, politically speaking, if the Supreme 1:18:35.520 --> 1:18:38.800 Court tries to pull back on his what he's trying 1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:40.080 to do here, he has now a little bit of 1:18:40.120 --> 1:18:42.200 cover and excuse going. Well, it would have worked if 1:18:42.200 --> 1:18:44.360 it wasn't for the damn meddling Supreme Court. 1:18:44.439 --> 1:18:46.679 Like scooby doo, that's right, that's right. 1:18:47.000 --> 1:18:50.200 And it also there's two economists are correct that the 1:18:50.200 --> 1:18:55.640 tariff has hurt our economy, hurt consumers. Then you know, 1:18:55.720 --> 1:18:58.440 then the markets will be up, things will be better economically, 1:18:58.760 --> 1:19:02.000 while he still gets to to rail against these enemies 1:19:02.040 --> 1:19:05.400 and to help them politically. So even if he might 1:19:05.439 --> 1:19:09.200 not like it, it might be beneficial, especially ahead of the terms. 1:19:09.320 --> 1:19:12.919 Director of Concertial Studies and Senior failty in Manhattan Institute, 1:19:12.960 --> 1:19:15.640 Ilia Shapiro on this great analysis. I appreciate it. Have 1:19:15.640 --> 1:19:18.479 a wonderful day, my pleasure, Scott. Yeah, you wonder if 1:19:18.560 --> 1:19:21.360 Republicans and this would be the leadership in the House 1:19:21.400 --> 1:19:23.640 and the Senate and maybe to some degree of those 1:19:23.680 --> 1:19:26.960 around Trump, maybe not Trump himself, but are kind of 1:19:27.000 --> 1:19:29.519 hoping for the Supreme Court to step in and kind 1:19:29.520 --> 1:19:31.800 of curb the tear if things some water, strike them down, 1:19:31.840 --> 1:19:34.760 simply because it gives you cover. Now saying, guy, you 1:19:34.800 --> 1:19:36.720 know we could have done this, I would have been well, 1:19:36.880 --> 1:19:39.880 it was all working up until the Supreme Court got involved, 1:19:39.880 --> 1:19:41.400 and now they screwed it back up. And it's the 1:19:41.400 --> 1:19:43.200 deep state, and this is why you've got to vote 1:19:43.240 --> 1:19:46.320 for well, name your next candidate. But you know Trump 1:19:46.400 --> 1:19:48.760 has been claiming we get these emails every day from 1:19:48.800 --> 1:19:52.040 the White House about you know, policies and saying when 1:19:52.040 --> 1:19:54.559 Trump is saying every price is down, everything is way down, 1:19:54.600 --> 1:19:57.120 down down, and prices are down down down. Everyone knows 1:19:57.120 --> 1:19:59.599 that it's less expensive than it was under Joe Biden. 1:20:00.280 --> 1:20:02.600 Not true, because you know, you can tell people that 1:20:02.720 --> 1:20:05.120 and put it on true social and claim it to be. 1:20:05.240 --> 1:20:07.880 But you know, the bottom line is, unlike other policies, 1:20:07.880 --> 1:20:10.120 we don't see and feel directly. You know, when you 1:20:10.160 --> 1:20:11.840 go to the grocery store and you see the price 1:20:11.880 --> 1:20:14.519 of beef, and you see that the consumer price index 1:20:14.600 --> 1:20:18.240 is up from where it's been. There's been inflation in 1:20:18.320 --> 1:20:20.679 every month of the term, and of products have gotten 1:20:20.760 --> 1:20:23.880 cost or costs more instead of getting cheaper. And you 1:20:23.920 --> 1:20:26.960 know what inflation is, it's still a sticky three percent. 1:20:27.680 --> 1:20:29.320 But yeah, I don't think we all feel it too. 1:20:29.439 --> 1:20:31.639 Gas of the pump is not near two dollars a gallon. 1:20:31.640 --> 1:20:33.320 It's the well above two dollars a gallon, at least 1:20:33.320 --> 1:20:36.439 the last time I got it. And while it's certainly 1:20:36.439 --> 1:20:38.920 not you know, three four five dollars a gallon, certainly 1:20:39.000 --> 1:20:41.240 everything feels like it costs more. It's not just beef, 1:20:41.240 --> 1:20:44.680 it's dozens of products have gotten way more expensive. And 1:20:44.720 --> 1:20:47.920 when he says groceries are down, other than beef, everything's down, down, down. 1:20:47.920 --> 1:20:50.479 We've had much lower prices like he can wish it. 1:20:50.840 --> 1:20:52.680 I don't think he's in the grocery store like like 1:20:52.800 --> 1:20:56.200 we always got out there doing his shopping like President 1:20:56.280 --> 1:20:59.040 Bush forty one no idea what a cost of a 1:20:59.080 --> 1:21:01.920 gall of milk cost? Trump does either. But you can 1:21:02.000 --> 1:21:04.000 keep talking about how the prices are done. But if 1:21:04.000 --> 1:21:06.519 that were true, even if you're the most diehard MAGA 1:21:06.600 --> 1:21:10.320 person saying that you're I'm the part of the media 1:21:10.360 --> 1:21:12.360 lives or whatever, Hey, great, have at it. But I 1:21:12.439 --> 1:21:14.400 know when I grow the grocery stort craps more expensive, 1:21:14.400 --> 1:21:17.439 and it is for you too. But even that test 1:21:17.560 --> 1:21:19.879 is okay. If the prices are down as he's climbing, 1:21:20.760 --> 1:21:22.280 why does he want to give all of us a 1:21:22.320 --> 1:21:25.240 two thousand dollars check? If the prices are down, you 1:21:25.240 --> 1:21:27.960 don't need a two thousand dollars check. That seems like 1:21:28.000 --> 1:21:31.639 to be the easiest, most basic test for all of us. Now, 1:21:31.640 --> 1:21:33.320 you may be a huge Trump fan and flying the 1:21:33.360 --> 1:21:35.160 flag and all that, know, your freak flag and all 1:21:35.200 --> 1:21:37.640 that stuff. Hey have at it, But you know, I 1:21:37.680 --> 1:21:39.360 think you can even admits like, yeah, this is not 1:21:39.400 --> 1:21:41.040 working out as expected. It's going to take a lot 1:21:41.080 --> 1:21:43.280 longer to see the effects of tariffs. And if the 1:21:43.320 --> 1:21:46.280 Supreme Court strikes it down, then I think that gives 1:21:46.320 --> 1:21:48.639 a mample cover. For sure, we'll get a news update 1:21:48.680 --> 1:21:50.880 in check the traffic, weather and all that going on 1:21:50.920 --> 1:21:53.040 in the world, and then want a return. Sarah's here 1:21:53.040 --> 1:21:56.160 a little sports laughing through her nose. It's the Snort 1:21:56.200 --> 1:21:59.680 Report aka Snorts of all sorts of share release, the 1:21:59.720 --> 1:22:03.080 bank and Joe Burrow at a crossroads here will he 1:22:03.160 --> 1:22:03.800 play or won't he? 1:22:03.960 --> 1:22:04.120 When? 1:22:04.120 --> 1:22:06.120 Will he play? Should he play? Should he not play? 1:22:06.240 --> 1:22:08.320 What the hell is going on down there? She's next 1:22:08.360 --> 1:22:10.719 on the show. It's a Snort Report with Sarah Lease 1:22:10.920 --> 1:22:12.800 on the Home of the Best Bengals coverage, seven hundred 1:22:12.800 --> 1:22:26.040 w st face. 1:22:31.800 --> 1:22:34.559 Good morning, I am happy today? 1:22:35.280 --> 1:22:39.160 Is that I'm a snort? That the cracking of Burrow's toe? 1:22:40.479 --> 1:22:41.120 That just you? 1:22:43.320 --> 1:22:45.920 Did you listen to that pressor on Monday? 1:22:46.200 --> 1:22:49.799 Sarah's Snort Report? Hi, good morning, what's going on, sporty? 1:22:50.080 --> 1:22:55.880 I'm feeling optimistic, Not because the Bengals got a new defense. 1:22:56.240 --> 1:22:57.040 I just like. 1:22:59.160 --> 1:23:00.200 In the bye week we got hold. 1:23:00.560 --> 1:23:02.200 Yeah, we got a whole new defense. 1:23:02.240 --> 1:23:03.840 I went under Jeff Wiler. 1:23:03.439 --> 1:23:06.960 And the things that money can buy. 1:23:07.120 --> 1:23:14.000 So it's too you're such a dead god. 1:23:14.400 --> 1:23:17.519 But I do like how I do like how tough 1:23:17.520 --> 1:23:20.040 of a guy that Joe Burrow is. He wasn't supposed 1:23:20.040 --> 1:23:22.360 to be back until like mid December. I was shocked. 1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:24.400 It was like seeing somebody come back from the dead. 1:23:24.800 --> 1:23:28.160 I'm like, who's this guy? You know that nobody was 1:23:28.240 --> 1:23:31.520 expecting him to walk through those doors on Monday afternoon 1:23:32.000 --> 1:23:33.759 and shock the world. 1:23:36.439 --> 1:23:39.000 All I know is I had a complete tendon rupture 1:23:39.040 --> 1:23:41.200 in my foot, and I'm thirty years older and I 1:23:41.439 --> 1:23:44.639 went out there playing football eight I was back in five. 1:23:44.760 --> 1:23:48.080 Oh way. You don't do anything physical like Joe Burrow, 1:23:48.439 --> 1:23:50.360 I am, what a throwing. 1:23:50.080 --> 1:23:53.040 A footballing up the worst, climbing up ladders? 1:23:54.240 --> 1:23:56.840 Yeah, but are you getting knocked down like Joe? 1:23:56.960 --> 1:24:00.720 I am? You got to turn the circuit off, you know. 1:24:00.760 --> 1:24:03.080 But on Monday, during that press conference, he had talked 1:24:03.120 --> 1:24:06.679 more about his injury. The Bengals media had asked about 1:24:06.680 --> 1:24:08.320 that day. I'm like, why are we going back to 1:24:08.360 --> 1:24:10.040 that day? But yeah, week two, he goes, look my 1:24:10.160 --> 1:24:12.800 toe gout. Listen to us. He said, my toe got 1:24:12.880 --> 1:24:16.719 stuck in the turf and then it got bent way 1:24:16.880 --> 1:24:17.719 too far back. 1:24:17.920 --> 1:24:20.160 You well, what do you think is going to happen? 1:24:20.400 --> 1:24:22.799 That's turf though, I know, I know, but just hearing 1:24:22.840 --> 1:24:25.360 and talking about it and then really thinking about it. 1:24:25.400 --> 1:24:27.000 I was there in the end zone at that game 1:24:27.000 --> 1:24:29.280 and I watched him get, you know, picked up by 1:24:29.320 --> 1:24:32.120 the two dudes. Right, I'm like, okay, yeah, that's pretty bad. 1:24:32.840 --> 1:24:34.479 Your whole foot laying like that. 1:24:34.560 --> 1:24:38.559 Yes, it's such a small body part, but such a 1:24:38.600 --> 1:24:41.960 big pain. Correct, But it is incredible that not even 1:24:42.120 --> 1:24:44.839 sixty days later, he's able to come back to practice. 1:24:44.840 --> 1:24:48.599 Granted it's limited, He's not going to be starting this weekend. 1:24:48.640 --> 1:24:54.120 Coach Taylor did confirm that. But in your opinion, I. 1:24:54.120 --> 1:24:56.160 Know, I think you are you going to go to 1:24:56.200 --> 1:24:58.360 the playoffs. This season is a playoffield is not a. 1:24:58.320 --> 1:25:00.719 Playoff team, This is not a play off defense. 1:25:00.720 --> 1:25:02.920 Why would you risk? I know, well, people buy tickets 1:25:02.920 --> 1:25:05.280 and the bus to look if you're serious about winning 1:25:05.320 --> 1:25:06.880 much I don't know they talk about it, but are 1:25:06.880 --> 1:25:08.320 you that serious about winning a championship? 1:25:08.520 --> 1:25:09.120 The offensive? 1:25:09.439 --> 1:25:11.839 How do you protect? You know, you got to protect 1:25:11.840 --> 1:25:14.439 your your franchise quarterback. You build around him. The defense 1:25:14.520 --> 1:25:15.439 is way too bad. 1:25:15.280 --> 1:25:20.240 To his butt. They've been doing just fine with Joff Laco. 1:25:21.240 --> 1:25:23.479 Do you think that even if Joe Burrow, because it's 1:25:23.600 --> 1:25:27.400 just a rumor that he could potentially come back for 1:25:27.520 --> 1:25:32.280 that Thanksgiving primetime game in Baltimore against the Raven idea. 1:25:32.720 --> 1:25:33.559 You think it's bad. 1:25:33.680 --> 1:25:34.880 I think it's a bad idea. 1:25:35.439 --> 1:25:38.040 This is not a playoff team, So why bring your 1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:40.320 guide back? Now? Granted, I think Joe Burrow has a 1:25:40.400 --> 1:25:43.240 lot of power over the that's the problem over the 1:25:43.240 --> 1:25:45.120 front office. 1:25:45.920 --> 1:25:48.080 Is there anyone there that has the stones to tell 1:25:48.160 --> 1:25:48.800 Joe Burrow now? 1:25:49.080 --> 1:25:52.040 I don't think so. I think he's the most powerful 1:25:52.080 --> 1:25:55.080 person with this organization. And that's going to look really 1:25:55.160 --> 1:25:58.320 sexy too. You got Joe Burrow versus Lamar Jackson. Two 1:25:58.360 --> 1:26:00.680 guys have been banged up pretty much the entirety of 1:26:00.720 --> 1:26:04.080 the season, right, and that looks really good on Thanksgiving nights? 1:26:04.160 --> 1:26:06.040 Yeah, I mean I could see a slam dunk game 1:26:06.160 --> 1:26:08.719 something like that. You come back, but what's the rush 1:26:08.720 --> 1:26:09.160 at this point? 1:26:09.320 --> 1:26:11.280 But do you need to get the revenge right now? Like, 1:26:11.400 --> 1:26:12.439 just give it the rest. 1:26:12.240 --> 1:26:14.640 Of this doing the off season at this point or 1:26:14.680 --> 1:26:18.439 give him a couple now? Again, We'll see what happens 1:26:18.479 --> 1:26:20.680 with this thing. I just I think it's well. The 1:26:20.720 --> 1:26:22.439 other issue too, is Trey Hendrickson too? 1:26:22.520 --> 1:26:25.599 Is Trey Hendrickson? I guess According to U Zach Taylor, 1:26:25.760 --> 1:26:30.799 he's likely not going to play this weekend. Mike Tomlin 1:26:30.880 --> 1:26:33.120 with the Steelers, he said, well, we're going to prepare 1:26:33.840 --> 1:26:36.800 like Trey Hendrickson as playing, so I guess it's not 1:26:37.040 --> 1:26:39.960 definite that he's not. But I mean, hey, the last 1:26:39.960 --> 1:26:42.520 time they played the Steelers, they didn't have Trey Hendrickson 1:26:42.680 --> 1:26:45.040 and they were able to beat them. So what are 1:26:45.080 --> 1:26:47.320 the chances of them getting it done again this weekend? 1:26:47.479 --> 1:26:49.400 No, I think you have a better sample size with 1:26:49.479 --> 1:26:52.679 Flacco and what he's doing. For Tomlin, but he don't 1:26:52.680 --> 1:26:55.360 trust the Steelers either. It's I don't know. 1:26:55.360 --> 1:26:56.720 They looked pretty bad over the week. 1:26:57.880 --> 1:26:58.760 They really really did. 1:26:58.840 --> 1:27:00.920 They didn't look like the first place Steelers that we've 1:27:00.920 --> 1:27:02.080 seen for the past few weeks. 1:27:02.160 --> 1:27:04.160 Soly nine wins gets it done in the division. But 1:27:04.320 --> 1:27:06.439 do the Bengals have nine wins in I think it's legitimate, 1:27:06.479 --> 1:27:07.360 even with Burrow in there. 1:27:07.439 --> 1:27:09.680 Yeah, going into this weekend after the bye, they're at 1:27:09.720 --> 1:27:12.479 three and six, and if they can beat the Steelers, 1:27:12.520 --> 1:27:14.559 they'll be three and zero in the division and they 1:27:14.560 --> 1:27:16.880 still have a chance to win the AFC North. There 1:27:16.880 --> 1:27:19.800 are still eight games left in the season, plenty of 1:27:19.840 --> 1:27:23.519 opportunities now, granted, I want to stay optimistic, but the 1:27:23.560 --> 1:27:25.800 schedule is a little tough. But hey, you can go 1:27:25.840 --> 1:27:28.080 and beat the Steelers, and then you got the Patriots 1:27:28.120 --> 1:27:29.800 at home. And then this is where I get a 1:27:29.840 --> 1:27:32.559 little nervous. You got that primetime game against the Ravens. 1:27:32.600 --> 1:27:34.320 You got to play the Bills, you got to come 1:27:34.360 --> 1:27:37.439 back and play the Ravens. I don't know, It's all 1:27:37.520 --> 1:27:39.320 up in the air, and I think every weekend this 1:27:39.439 --> 1:27:42.519 team continues to surprise me. You just really never know 1:27:42.560 --> 1:27:45.280 what you're gonna get. You really don't. 1:27:45.360 --> 1:27:45.760 I'm good. 1:27:46.000 --> 1:27:47.960 Like you look at the wins that they've gotten, like, okay, 1:27:47.960 --> 1:27:50.680 they've I'm sorry, they've gotten the losses with you know, 1:27:50.720 --> 1:27:53.599 scoring thirty three points, thirty eight points, forty one points, 1:27:53.640 --> 1:27:57.000 you would think, oh, those are clearly winning points right there. 1:27:57.160 --> 1:27:57.400 Yep. 1:27:58.680 --> 1:28:01.200 It just goes to show you how important a really 1:28:01.280 --> 1:28:05.360 great defense is. And they didn't do anything. They didn't 1:28:05.360 --> 1:28:06.599 do anything with the defense. 1:28:06.720 --> 1:28:09.360 You think they tag Hendrickson and probably see I'm going 1:28:09.840 --> 1:28:10.479 Trey Hendrickson. 1:28:10.520 --> 1:28:13.200 I'm tired of the Trey Hendrickson drama. I'm so tired 1:28:13.240 --> 1:28:16.160 of it. Thirty one he SAIDs more than he plays too. 1:28:16.280 --> 1:28:18.439 I'm just sick of it. It's like, Okay, he's a 1:28:18.479 --> 1:28:20.000 really nice guy. That's great. 1:28:20.160 --> 1:28:22.519 He's not helping any nice guys the Bengals need. We've 1:28:22.520 --> 1:28:26.439 had like a litany of nice guys. John Kittings such 1:28:26.439 --> 1:28:29.560 a nice guy. He rings you got with John Kittens always. 1:28:29.320 --> 1:28:29.960 The nice guys. 1:28:30.200 --> 1:28:30.800 Yeah. 1:28:30.920 --> 1:28:31.400 I like that. 1:28:31.439 --> 1:28:33.559 We're seeing some of these guys get pissed off too. 1:28:33.600 --> 1:28:36.360 I mean, after that loss last weekend, before the bye, 1:28:36.400 --> 1:28:38.160 you know, Jamar Chase is like, come on, man, I 1:28:38.320 --> 1:28:42.080 just want to stop. Let's go get fired up. I 1:28:42.120 --> 1:28:43.839 want to see a fired up Zach Taylor. 1:28:45.280 --> 1:28:47.720 I don't know. I I had no idea what to 1:28:47.760 --> 1:28:49.439 expect on Sunday. I really don't. It's a coin. 1:28:49.320 --> 1:28:51.599 Toss, no idea. My dad texts me the other day, 1:28:51.640 --> 1:28:53.280 he goes, what do you think is gonna happen on Sunday? 1:28:53.320 --> 1:28:53.760 I don't know. 1:28:53.920 --> 1:28:56.479 I don't no clue. He's like, you have a score prediction? Nope, 1:28:56.600 --> 1:28:57.040 sure don't. 1:28:57.040 --> 1:28:59.599 Couldn't tell you, Nope, couldn't tell you what. No team 1:28:59.600 --> 1:29:01.200 shows up, what defense shows about that. 1:29:01.200 --> 1:29:04.400 They could score fifty five points, fifty six fifty five. 1:29:05.120 --> 1:29:07.280 It's a little bit different feels again, I really really 1:29:07.360 --> 1:29:09.280 want to be optimistic. I feel like if they can 1:29:09.320 --> 1:29:11.679 go and beat the Steelers this weekend, they really can 1:29:11.880 --> 1:29:14.120 do it. This would turn things around. 1:29:14.360 --> 1:29:16.439 Don't you think that would make Joe's to feel a 1:29:16.479 --> 1:29:16.960 lot better. 1:29:17.040 --> 1:29:20.000 Joe's like, hmmmm, well, And it's really interesting to hear 1:29:20.080 --> 1:29:23.240 Joe Burrow talk about Joe Flacco and kind of learning 1:29:23.240 --> 1:29:26.120 from this guy. I mean, he's been in the locker room, 1:29:26.160 --> 1:29:28.080 he's been at the practices, he's been at the meetings, 1:29:28.120 --> 1:29:30.760 and he goes. I'm really entertained by Joe Flacco. I 1:29:30.840 --> 1:29:33.400 like watching him play. I'm learning a lot from him. 1:29:33.439 --> 1:29:35.640 He's a really nice guy and knows this stuff. So 1:29:36.280 --> 1:29:37.960 Joe's got a lot of respect for Joe. I got 1:29:38.000 --> 1:29:39.760 two good jos that we're working with here. 1:29:39.960 --> 1:29:40.080 Good. 1:29:40.200 --> 1:29:44.679 I think he's your backup too, Jo, Joe Burrow is, yes, 1:29:45.680 --> 1:29:48.200 And I think Joe Flacco is a really good fit 1:29:48.320 --> 1:29:51.240 with this town too. He's out in the city like, 1:29:51.280 --> 1:29:53.680 he's mingling with people. He's really likable. 1:29:53.960 --> 1:29:55.599 I don't care if you're I don't care if you're 1:29:55.600 --> 1:29:57.680 Aaron Rodgers. As long as you're winning football games. I 1:29:57.680 --> 1:29:58.639 don't care if you're a nice guy. 1:29:58.800 --> 1:30:00.519 What I love most about him is that he connecting 1:30:00.520 --> 1:30:02.519 with Jamar and he's connecting with Tea and he's getting 1:30:02.520 --> 1:30:04.559 stuff done. He's getting stuff done for the offense. 1:30:05.280 --> 1:30:06.879 The defense, that's. 1:30:06.720 --> 1:30:08.920 Your issue, and it's the same defense every year. 1:30:09.080 --> 1:30:11.280 Just rest show. There's no reason to bring Burrow back 1:30:11.280 --> 1:30:12.040 into this mess. 1:30:12.320 --> 1:30:14.880 I I just have a feeling he's hard headed and 1:30:14.880 --> 1:30:16.840 he's gonna want to get out there on Thanksgiving night 1:30:16.840 --> 1:30:18.479 and get the revenge because we know what happened the 1:30:18.560 --> 1:30:19.280 last time that he. 1:30:19.240 --> 1:30:20.880 Was in Well, I want to see who runs the team. 1:30:20.920 --> 1:30:22.479 At some point, you gotta go, look, guess, is this 1:30:22.600 --> 1:30:24.439 not in anyone's best interest to jeopardize that? 1:30:24.720 --> 1:30:27.479 And you're probably if you're the Bengals, what happened to Washington? 1:30:27.760 --> 1:30:29.439 If you're yeah, And if you're the Bengals, you're sitting 1:30:29.439 --> 1:30:31.759 there like, look, we're paying you half a billion dollars. 1:30:32.360 --> 1:30:34.000 Why don't you just take it easy and let Joe 1:30:34.040 --> 1:30:35.000 Flacco take us one. 1:30:35.360 --> 1:30:37.639 Lu's see till we get some Yeah, what else you got? 1:30:37.640 --> 1:30:38.000 But we got? 1:30:38.040 --> 1:30:41.360 Yeah? The next few weeks will be obviously very very telling. 1:30:42.439 --> 1:30:44.680 Let's see what else do we have. I don't know 1:30:44.680 --> 1:30:47.080 they're going to get back to practice today. They'll be 1:30:47.120 --> 1:30:51.240 on the road on Saturday. Let's switch to Reds. Just 1:30:51.240 --> 1:30:53.719 one hundred and thirty four days until Red's opening. 1:30:53.800 --> 1:30:57.920 Cotten a Tonner Reds open. How about Tito second place? 1:30:57.960 --> 1:30:58.240 For Man? 1:30:58.520 --> 1:31:03.000 That's ridiculous, stupid Brewers. I think it's fixed. You should 1:31:03.000 --> 1:31:04.160 have gotten the first place. 1:31:04.600 --> 1:31:06.800 I mean, when's the last time that has been Brea 1:31:06.880 --> 1:31:08.479 considered for Cincinnati Reds fans? 1:31:08.600 --> 1:31:11.080 Ever, I don't think that's ever happened. Actually, I'm a 1:31:11.160 --> 1:31:12.760 Tito stan I love this dude. 1:31:12.880 --> 1:31:14.439 Doesn't mean I mean he got the most out of 1:31:14.439 --> 1:31:15.200 this team you could get. 1:31:15.600 --> 1:31:18.000 He still got into the playoffs. He said, look, you 1:31:18.080 --> 1:31:21.080 got a sample of the champagne. Think of that moment, 1:31:21.240 --> 1:31:24.120 think of that feeling. Taste the champagne again, and let's 1:31:24.120 --> 1:31:25.200 go a lot further with it. 1:31:25.320 --> 1:31:27.400 Well, and it's a lot on that front. That's a 1:31:27.439 --> 1:31:29.160 lot of Nikkral more than there's anybody else. 1:31:29.200 --> 1:31:31.600 Absolutely, it is lots of pressure there. What do you 1:31:31.600 --> 1:31:34.160 think about the rumors with trading Hunter Green? That's been 1:31:34.200 --> 1:31:38.240 like the biggest where these come from from beat writers 1:31:38.600 --> 1:31:41.479 got nothing better? They like the clicks. 1:31:42.320 --> 1:31:44.880 It's like the NFL network, right, NFL Network, What do 1:31:44.920 --> 1:31:46.960 you do after the Super Bowl? We have, we go 1:31:47.040 --> 1:31:51.240 to lists, we make a list immediately content and that's 1:31:51.360 --> 1:31:52.080 that's the game. 1:31:51.960 --> 1:31:54.439 And you know what's trending. And obviously Hunter Green not 1:31:54.520 --> 1:31:56.280 able to get it done in the playoffs and people 1:31:56.280 --> 1:31:58.160 are like, well, should we just trade him because he 1:31:58.200 --> 1:32:02.200 can't handle postseason baseball and he melts down on the mound. 1:32:03.439 --> 1:32:07.200 It was a very small sample to get one game, 1:32:08.600 --> 1:32:11.960 and I was like, damn against the Dodgers the World Series, 1:32:12.120 --> 1:32:13.720 champing brain surgery here. 1:32:13.800 --> 1:32:15.920 I'm still glad that the Dodgers got it done. 1:32:17.000 --> 1:32:18.840 Yeah, I wanted the Jason, but that's I know. 1:32:19.120 --> 1:32:20.720 But it's like, if you're gonna lose, you know, like 1:32:20.760 --> 1:32:22.400 I said, I'm a salty Reds fan. I'm like, hey, 1:32:22.400 --> 1:32:23.760 if you're gonna lose, it might as well be to 1:32:23.800 --> 1:32:24.479 the World Series. 1:32:24.560 --> 1:32:26.479 Chance say this, there's something good news coming is the 1:32:26.520 --> 1:32:28.240 fact that a Reds Fest is back. 1:32:28.360 --> 1:32:29.680 That's what I was just going to talk about. Is 1:32:29.840 --> 1:32:33.600 Reds Fest officially back at the brand new Are we 1:32:33.640 --> 1:32:36.320 calling it the Duke Energy? You can go you can 1:32:36.360 --> 1:32:39.000 still Duke Energy. Okay, this is going to be the 1:32:39.040 --> 1:32:43.840 first event happening at this big convention center, not in 1:32:43.880 --> 1:32:46.479 December though usually this is like a first weekend of 1:32:46.520 --> 1:32:51.040 December sort of thing, Friday January sixteenth and then Saturday 1:32:51.400 --> 1:32:54.639 January seventeenth, So they've got all the details on reds 1:32:54.800 --> 1:32:58.840 dot com slash Reds Fest took last year off, so 1:32:58.880 --> 1:33:00.639 that way, that way they could get this whole thing 1:33:00.760 --> 1:33:04.920 done and reconstructed. But yeah, I'm excited about this. I 1:33:04.960 --> 1:33:05.679 love this event. 1:33:05.800 --> 1:33:07.680 Yeah, yeah, it's always fun to see, especially if the 1:33:07.720 --> 1:33:09.559 year off it's like a little and then new convention. 1:33:09.760 --> 1:33:11.240 Yeah, it kind of gets too excited. It's going to 1:33:11.280 --> 1:33:15.120 be the month before pitchers and catchers report, which music 1:33:15.160 --> 1:33:18.320 to my ears, I mean just a month out from that. 1:33:18.439 --> 1:33:19.439 Really once you're. 1:33:19.680 --> 1:33:22.280 Quickly looking for we just turned the clocks last weekend 1:33:22.320 --> 1:33:24.200 and now we're already looking forward to to turn it 1:33:24.240 --> 1:33:24.920 back to where they were. 1:33:25.120 --> 1:33:28.320 Dude, I've already started blanning my trip to Arizona. I'm like, 1:33:28.520 --> 1:33:28.960 let's go. 1:33:29.280 --> 1:33:30.200 The best time with your. 1:33:30.240 --> 1:33:31.880 Baseball season is absolutely the best. 1:33:32.040 --> 1:33:36.320 Yeah, rubber than Joe's toe at this point. 1:33:36.400 --> 1:33:40.040 Oh what, it's always a toe something that we should 1:33:40.040 --> 1:33:43.479 be really excited about. F C Cincinnati Hell is very 1:33:43.520 --> 1:33:46.120 real for the Columbus crew. That match on Saturday night 1:33:46.360 --> 1:33:48.640 was awesome. The last thirty minutes. 1:33:48.439 --> 1:33:50.599 The best act in town right now when it comes 1:33:50.640 --> 1:33:54.280 to playoff championship level. I mean, they shook the monkey 1:33:54.320 --> 1:33:57.760 after back was great, amazing. I've talked to Tommy G. 1:33:58.800 --> 1:34:01.760 You did a great His call was awesome. That's all 1:34:01.760 --> 1:34:03.920 over social media. That was trending, and I love that 1:34:03.960 --> 1:34:05.280 he adds those videos. 1:34:05.400 --> 1:34:09.280 The Spanish call good yeah, which is a thriller inside. Nah. 1:34:09.320 --> 1:34:10.920 But I mean, you know, if you're not into that stuff, 1:34:10.920 --> 1:34:13.080 at least maybe try to watch a playoff game somewhere. 1:34:13.320 --> 1:34:14.600 I think you kind of get into because at the 1:34:14.600 --> 1:34:16.320 pace of the game, it was incredible. It was a 1:34:16.400 --> 1:34:18.040 nail bite, it was a very exciting. 1:34:17.720 --> 1:34:20.840 It was so good. Lots of defense for that first half. 1:34:20.880 --> 1:34:23.240 But yeah, the last thirty minutes gave us everything that 1:34:23.280 --> 1:34:25.200 we needed. And hey, if you want to get like 1:34:25.479 --> 1:34:28.799 your sports, your since e sports Phil in one day. 1:34:29.080 --> 1:34:31.000 The next Bengals home game is going to be against 1:34:31.040 --> 1:34:33.920 the Patriots at one o'clock. Then you've got FC Cincinnati 1:34:34.280 --> 1:34:38.320 hosting Miami at five o'clock, and it's a blue out, 1:34:38.320 --> 1:34:40.639 so you're going to go from orange and black to blue. 1:34:41.439 --> 1:34:44.760 This could be a really great day for Cincinnati, and 1:34:44.800 --> 1:34:46.479 I want to believe that it's going to be awesome. 1:34:46.640 --> 1:34:47.920 I want to believe we can go to and O 1:34:48.040 --> 1:34:51.280 that day on the twenty third. All right, good, so yeah, 1:34:51.320 --> 1:34:52.400 lots of good stuff to look for. 1:34:52.560 --> 1:34:54.400 It's a great look for somebody get shot. 1:34:54.960 --> 1:34:58.760 Well, no, why would you say that. I wasn't even 1:34:58.840 --> 1:35:00.840 thinking about that. You are now, you know I go 1:35:00.880 --> 1:35:02.720 to these games. I'm like, that is the last thing 1:35:02.760 --> 1:35:06.240 that's on my mind. Worried about these guys scoring points, 1:35:06.680 --> 1:35:09.719 the defense doing their job. I don't want to defend 1:35:09.720 --> 1:35:10.719 myself from a bullet. 1:35:13.000 --> 1:35:14.960 Well, they try to downplay that too, a little bitter 1:35:15.000 --> 1:35:16.400 and some of the. 1:35:16.439 --> 1:35:17.640 Crimes, you're ridiculous. 1:35:17.920 --> 1:35:20.560 Also going on, like Willie because he's coming up in 1:35:20.600 --> 1:35:24.720 a few minutes. Heirs know. That's like Gona, It's like 1:35:24.800 --> 1:35:26.760 going to Venezuela. 1:35:28.040 --> 1:35:32.320 Also going on this weekend. On Friday night. On Friday Night, 1:35:32.400 --> 1:35:35.600 go downtown and support your Cincinnati Cyclones. Puck drop at 1:35:35.640 --> 1:35:39.519 seven thirty. It's military Appreciation night. So they're doing like 1:35:39.560 --> 1:35:41.840 a really cool camo hat giveaway. It's five to one, 1:35:41.920 --> 1:35:44.760 three nights. So you got five dollars craft drafts, one 1:35:44.800 --> 1:35:48.559 dollar popcorns, three dollar burgers. Well, they have to do 1:35:48.600 --> 1:35:50.439 it because that's the next home game that they have. 1:35:50.520 --> 1:35:52.160 They're out of town. They actually have a they had 1:35:52.600 --> 1:35:55.240 a road game today at ten thirty in the morning. 1:35:55.800 --> 1:35:57.760 It's like their kids field trip day. 1:35:58.520 --> 1:35:59.920 Oh, kids day, kids day. 1:36:00.080 --> 1:36:02.400 Yeah, on the road they do the kids field trip 1:36:02.479 --> 1:36:04.360 day here next Tuesday. 1:36:04.600 --> 1:36:06.160 Yeah. I love that when they do like the little 1:36:06.240 --> 1:36:06.880 day game for the kids. 1:36:06.880 --> 1:36:09.000 It's pretty cool. It's fun. They got like fun activities 1:36:09.080 --> 1:36:11.680 up on the new uh scoreboard sound right right? 1:36:11.720 --> 1:36:13.160 And dollar beer's too, fith kids, So. 1:36:13.080 --> 1:36:15.200 It's good dollar everyone's having fun. 1:36:15.240 --> 1:36:18.840 Yes, good time. Sarah Lisa's snort reported things sports related. 1:36:18.840 --> 1:36:20.640 You're caught up in this a midweek she is on 1:36:20.680 --> 1:36:23.040 the kid Christial Mornings on one O two seven e 1:36:23.200 --> 1:36:23.760 b N. 1:36:24.240 --> 1:36:25.519 Of course, I think I got everything out. 1:36:25.560 --> 1:36:29.080 You got everything in there, Joe fcc jo. 1:36:29.400 --> 1:36:31.679 Cyclones one hundred and thirty four days still opening day. 1:36:32.280 --> 1:36:34.519 What a time you get cringey about toes that I noticed. 1:36:34.680 --> 1:36:37.080 Yeah, I don't like the tones. 1:36:36.920 --> 1:36:37.439 You do too. 1:36:37.520 --> 1:36:39.000 Yeah, how much money you make that up for your 1:36:39.000 --> 1:36:42.720 only fans? I was, I was, she gets all these perverse. 1:36:42.760 --> 1:36:43.559 Picks right now. 1:36:43.600 --> 1:36:46.680 If you can give Lisa money. 1:36:46.840 --> 1:36:49.800 To actually need a bed, A picture how are you 1:36:49.800 --> 1:36:52.599 get turned on by that freak? I don't understand these 1:36:52.600 --> 1:36:57.160 feet freaks. Yeah, but for Joe's toe, we're very invested. Yeah, 1:36:57.160 --> 1:36:58.599 I don't want to look at it, but I'm still 1:36:58.600 --> 1:37:01.800 invested a topic. We need one hundred percent chot on 1:37:01.840 --> 1:37:02.240 the toe. 1:37:02.520 --> 1:37:05.560 Toe Burrow then asked hairy toeh, thanks again, appreciate it. 1:37:05.600 --> 1:37:08.639 Willie's on the way. Coming up next. Seven hundred W. Dow, Cincinnati,