WEBVTT - Aging In Place | Hour 3

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM 640, you're listening to Dean Sharp, the house

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<v Speaker 1>whisperer on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Today on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about aging in place, which is a special

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<v Speaker 1>kind of design challenge because what we're really doing is

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<v Speaker 1>we're taking that definition of dream home and we're extending

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<v Speaker 1>it into A home that isn't just beautiful, aesthetically beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>in every way, custom-made for you, but also custom-made for

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<v Speaker 1>you in the sense that it can last the test

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<v Speaker 1>of time as you age within your home. Aging in

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<v Speaker 1>place is a unique design challenge, but one that can be,

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<v Speaker 1>with enough creativity and effort, achieved. Well, we've yet to

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<v Speaker 1>find a home that we haven't been able to... age

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<v Speaker 1>in place appropriate to the lifestyle and the aesthetics of

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<v Speaker 1>the people who live within it. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to that topic, but I've got to carry

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<v Speaker 1>over from our caller section here. I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Diane and it's such a relevant question that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to finish up my conversation with Diane before we return

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<v Speaker 1>to our main subject, because her husband has a disability.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a two-story house. They have a stair lift,

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<v Speaker 1>a chair lift on the staircase and, So the upstairs-downstairs

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<v Speaker 1>issue has been resolved. But her husband has really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>a walk-in tub to bathe in because it would just

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<v Speaker 1>be easier for him. And I was suggesting that there

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<v Speaker 1>are pros and cons to it. I'm trying to give

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<v Speaker 1>Diane a very, very honest answer. Diane, are you still

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<v Speaker 1>with me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So I had mentioned that the cost of installing

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<v Speaker 1>a walk-in tub– can very easily become equivalent to the

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<v Speaker 1>cost of a walk-in shower situation. The walk-in tub, definitely

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<v Speaker 1>something that maybe in the long run, as far as

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<v Speaker 1>resale is concerned, is not going to be at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of a lot of people, a lot of buyers'

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<v Speaker 1>priority list. It may be something that you'd want to

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<v Speaker 1>change out or that somebody would want to change out.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're aging in place and you're just planning on,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is your forever home, That's also a

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<v Speaker 1>concern that somebody else is concerned and not necessarily yours.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're being sensitive to the kids or whoever gets

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<v Speaker 1>the house, or maybe you guys are planning on not

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<v Speaker 1>being in there forever. So that's a concern. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>something to think about. My main issues, as I mentioned before,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the actual comfort experience of the walk-in tub

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<v Speaker 1>is rarely dealt with fully transparently by walk-in tub proponents

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<v Speaker 1>because The fact that the door swings in means you

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<v Speaker 1>got to get into the tub naked and sit there

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<v Speaker 1>in an empty tub naked while it fills. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to wait for that to happen. It's going to take,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a few minutes for it to fill. And

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<v Speaker 1>then afterwards, now you're wet. And you're sitting there and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to wait for it to drain out before

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<v Speaker 1>you can get back out. And when people start to

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<v Speaker 1>think about that, they're like, ooh, maybe this is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the panacea that I thought it would

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<v Speaker 1>be at first. Whereas if you're in a shower seat

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<v Speaker 1>with rollers, you could have a walk-in shower. you can

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<v Speaker 1>simply roll into the shower, remain seated, have hand sprayers,

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<v Speaker 1>wall spray jets, the shower head, complete control. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>using 80 gallons of hot water every time you bathe.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saving money there. And you're instantly warm as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as the shower head turns on and you instantly

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<v Speaker 1>get to get out and dry off once the shower

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<v Speaker 1>is finished. Now, all of that being said, at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, It's really up to you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really up to your husband what kind of experience he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to have. If he really wants that sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>a spa kind of bathing experience, nothing's going to get

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<v Speaker 1>that done except a walk-in tub. But I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to be really clear on what the pros and cons are.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Currently, he has

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<v Speaker 2>a transfer chair. And what are your thoughts about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, see, I think... A transfer bench? Oh, you mean

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<v Speaker 1>into the existing tub?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So he sits and he showers, but he does have that.

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<v Speaker 2>So that helps him get into the shower comfortably.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is it about the walk-in tub that he's

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<v Speaker 1>longing for that the shower isn't getting done for him?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just the ease of it all? Because he'd

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<v Speaker 1>still be getting up and transferring into... the tub because

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<v Speaker 1>he can't take, you know, the chair in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what he likes is the thought of the jets,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, massaging him when he's in the tub as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to a shower.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And that makes, yeah, that's entirely a justifiable thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe one of the things that just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>before I give up on the shower that I can

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<v Speaker 1>also say is the cost of redoing that shower and

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<v Speaker 1>putting massage sprayers in the shower wall is, again, now

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<v Speaker 1>it's not submersing in hot water with the circulation of

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<v Speaker 1>the water, but there are massaging jets that spray sidewall

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<v Speaker 1>sprayers that can be placed in the shower wall as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just, again, I'm not going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that there's a right way and a wrong way

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<v Speaker 1>to do it because there's a market for these walk-in

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<v Speaker 1>tubs and a lot of people want them. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure it's my job to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you have all of the facts going into it

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<v Speaker 1>so you make the right decision for you. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not one of those designers who's like, no, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that. Not at all. No, no. Who am

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<v Speaker 1>I to tell anybody the experience they want to have

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<v Speaker 1>in their bathroom? It's my job to listen really carefully

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<v Speaker 1>and just to make sure that you've got all the

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<v Speaker 1>facts along the way. I'm simply saying at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, the cost of that tub plus all

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<v Speaker 1>of the other modifications, plumbing, electrical, tile work, you could

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<v Speaker 1>create a walk-in shower without a dam just that much

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<v Speaker 1>easier that would not require any alterations for resale. You're

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<v Speaker 1>probably exactly in the same cost ballpark, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, it's got to be something that

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<v Speaker 1>he's comfortable with and actually wants. I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say He absolutely wants the walk-in tub. The one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that could be the saving grace that I will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that you need to talk to the plumber

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<v Speaker 1>about is this. You want a three quarter inch hot

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<v Speaker 1>water line coming into that tub. All of the standard

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<v Speaker 1>water lines in your home are half inch, half inch

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<v Speaker 1>diameter water lines, okay? The hot and the cold. But anytime, anytime,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just about walk-in tubs. Anytime we install a

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<v Speaker 1>big soaker tub or a big jacuzzi kind of tub,

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<v Speaker 1>a big luxury spa tub in a bathroom that holds

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of water like these walk-ins do, I always

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that we install a three-quarter inch hot water

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<v Speaker 1>line because that tub, that three-quarter inch hot water line

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<v Speaker 1>carrying twice as much water into the tub, which means

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<v Speaker 1>it fills up twice as fast, which means that uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>awkward time waiting for the tub to fill up is

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<v Speaker 1>cut in half. And also, The hot water, if it

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<v Speaker 1>takes five minutes for a tub to fill up with

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<v Speaker 1>hot water, that hot water has cooled off while it's filling.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the three-quarter inch line makes a huge difference

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<v Speaker 1>in keeping the water hot and filling up the tub faster.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's my balanced advice and some tips for both directions, Diane.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Now, how would you install the three-quarter inch

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<v Speaker 2>line in an existing home that... the majority of them

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<v Speaker 2>are at the half inch. Where would they install that

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<v Speaker 2>three quarter inch?

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<v Speaker 1>So there's going to be a, there's likely a three

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<v Speaker 1>quarter inch line already running in your home that the

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<v Speaker 1>other lines are branching off of. And so it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a little extra effort for the plumber to get all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back to one of those three quarter inch

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<v Speaker 1>trunk lines and run a three quarter inch line to

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<v Speaker 1>it back into the bathroom. And if it's upstairs, which

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<v Speaker 1>I assume it is, then running a pipe through the

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<v Speaker 1>attic and getting down into where the tub needs to be,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably not going to be that big of a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>There is an additional expense for that. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little tricky at a couple of points, but

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<v Speaker 1>generally speaking, it's something that's entirely doable. It's just such

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<v Speaker 1>an important add if we want to make that tub

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<v Speaker 1>experience that much better. Diane, I'm up against a break.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for hanging on through the last break. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to give as much attention to that as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody, gets to hear what I was already going

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<v Speaker 1>to mention about walk-in tubs later in the show. So

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<v Speaker 1>we just moved it up and hopefully given you guys

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<v Speaker 1>some things to think about. Bless you guys. And let

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<v Speaker 1>me know. Let me know what he ends up deciding.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, y'all. When we come back, back to Aging

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<v Speaker 1>in Place, you're home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisperer.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp, on demand from

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<v Speaker 3>KFI AM640.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about aging in place and the design of

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<v Speaker 1>your home to get it to that place. Oh, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was my zipper. That just showed up. The zipper,

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<v Speaker 1>not my, no. That was my zip. I'm wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>zippered hoodie. Can you hear that? I just heard it

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<v Speaker 1>in my headphones. I guess nobody else can hear. Never mind. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not my pants. I'm not unzipping my pants on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. No, it's my hoodie here. It got a

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<v Speaker 1>little warm in here, so I zipped it down just

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<v Speaker 1>a smidge. Okay, jeez. Come on. Let's move on. Grow up.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so aging in place. Aging in place is

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<v Speaker 1>about having situations where you forget that you have not zipped,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. Let's talk about the Entrance into your home.

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<v Speaker 1>This has got to be one of the biggest design challenges, honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>Entry steps into a house. Very, very few homes are

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<v Speaker 1>without entry steps, and rightly so. It's good that a

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<v Speaker 1>house is up above the landscape around it to a

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<v Speaker 1>certain degree. Especially, we've been talking about the rainy season

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<v Speaker 1>coming in and all of that kind of stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the calls that I took yesterday on the

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<v Speaker 1>All Calls Saturday show were related to, my house is

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<v Speaker 1>sitting right level with all the ground around me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>scared to death of what's going to happen with the

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<v Speaker 1>El Nino rains this year. I get that, right? So

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<v Speaker 1>most home elevations are raised up above the landscape around them.

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<v Speaker 1>But that makes steps, steps up onto the front porch,

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<v Speaker 1>usually at least one or two. OK, usually not often

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<v Speaker 1>more than three in a typical home. But, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there can be. And a typical step is about six

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<v Speaker 1>inches high. The risers, the you know, the the height

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<v Speaker 1>of each step. And so you got two or three,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you can have 12 to 18 inches of

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<v Speaker 1>rise up onto your, you know, the main level stepping

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<v Speaker 1>into your house. So how do you deal with that?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's the issue of the actual porch itself

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<v Speaker 1>being a couple inches below the level of the interior

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<v Speaker 1>of the house, which is also code, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>to have a hard surface material out there that holds water.

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<v Speaker 1>It needs to be two inches below the interior elevation

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<v Speaker 1>of the house, the floor inside the house. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>an issue as well. So how do we create a

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<v Speaker 1>ramp situation without really messing with the aesthetic of the

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the house? This is perhaps, I think, the

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<v Speaker 1>most challenging from a design perspective. And I will simply

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<v Speaker 1>tell you this. Get a designer involved. if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to solve that problem. We've yet to not solve it

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that works attractively and also ways of

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with it so that it's not an issue of

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<v Speaker 1>resale of the house. You're like, oh, look, look, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a disability house, okay? Doesn't have to be that way.

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<v Speaker 1>And here are a couple of thoughts along the lines

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<v Speaker 1>of how to deal with this. First of all, The easiest, perhaps,

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<v Speaker 1>way of dealing with this is to just avoid the

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<v Speaker 1>front door anyway as a problem. Because most houses have

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<v Speaker 1>at least two or three points of entry into them.

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<v Speaker 1>There may be a side yard entry door, a side

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<v Speaker 1>yard in the garage entry door, a side yard in

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<v Speaker 1>the back entry door, and so on. Those long side

0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:15.470
<v Speaker 1>yards that nobody sees that are there, These are ideal

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<v Speaker 1>for creating long ramps. And by the way, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the actual ramp need? I will tell you. The American

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<v Speaker 1>Disabilities Act specify a 1 to 12 ratio. 1 to

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<v Speaker 1>12 ratio. And that's in inches. So basically, for every

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<v Speaker 1>inch of rise that we need to overcome, we need

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<v Speaker 1>a foot of ramp. Okay? For every inch of rise,

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<v Speaker 1>we need a foot of ramp. Let's talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more. On the other side of the break,

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<v Speaker 1>your home. With Dean Sharp, the House Whisperer.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp, on demand from

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<v Speaker 3>KFI AM640.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, our goal, aging in place without being obvious about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The invisible, universal design principles being applied to any and

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<v Speaker 1>every house so that this becomes a house that you

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<v Speaker 1>can stay in. We're just scratching the surface today. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had no myths. That's why, you know, no illusions

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of the show, which is why I

0:14:15.190 --> 0:14:17.030
<v Speaker 1>told you we're only going to be able to, you know,

0:14:17.110 --> 0:14:19.750
<v Speaker 1>just barely dip our toe into this. But these are

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<v Speaker 1>nevertheless important things. Every one of these topics as we

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<v Speaker 1>move along, because it's a huge, huge subject. Before the break,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about the entry, right? Getting up into

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<v Speaker 1>the house. And so I'm just going to re-emphasize this.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to this and doing this the right way,

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<v Speaker 1>get design help, okay? Get design help. Get the most

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<v Speaker 1>creative thinking involved in how to achieve this for your

0:14:50.380 --> 0:14:56.890
<v Speaker 1>specific situation. Just general rules of thumb. Number one, the

0:14:57.110 --> 0:15:00.390
<v Speaker 1>ramp that is needed to get from wherever you are

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<v Speaker 1>up into the house is American Disabilities Act has specified

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<v Speaker 1>for the comfort of it not being too steep of

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<v Speaker 1>a ramp that's easy to handle is a one inch

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<v Speaker 1>to 12 inch ratio. That means one inch of vertical

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<v Speaker 1>height change needs one foot length horizontally of ramp to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve it. OK, so a tiny little one foot long

0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.260
<v Speaker 1>ramp would go from zero to one inch high. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the pitch of the of the ramp that's recommended by ADA. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that means if you've got three steps coming up to

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<v Speaker 1>your front porch, um, that's, and they're all six inches,

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<v Speaker 1>that's 18 inches of rise, which means we're going to,

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<v Speaker 1>to overcome that, we're going to need 18 feet of ramp.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And how do you hide or integrate 18 feet of

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<v Speaker 1>ramp decoratively into a design without it screaming disability situation here? Uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it can be done, uh, one thing to do is

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<v Speaker 1>ignore the front stoop altogether and go in through, have the,

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<v Speaker 1>that access set up through another door, side yard, rear door,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you're not having to, you know, rework everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But some, some homes and some access points got to

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<v Speaker 1>go in through the front door. And so for that,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets a little trickier. One of the ways that

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<v Speaker 1>you can do it is think opposite. If you can't,

0:16:22.530 --> 0:16:25.180
<v Speaker 1>you know, Bring Muhammad to the mountain, as they say.

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<v Speaker 1>You bring the mountain to Muhammad. Raise the landscape up.

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<v Speaker 1>Most yards, by the way, are too flat and boring anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>They should have some contours in the third dimension, some moguls,

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<v Speaker 1>some ups and some downs in them. So the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of raising up the landscape so that a nice, beautiful,

0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:48.440
<v Speaker 1>circuitous path from the sidewalk in or from the driveway

0:16:48.660 --> 0:16:52.060
<v Speaker 1>over can be accommodated. And you can get that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of rampy, smooth pathway sometimes by simply let's raise the

0:16:56.710 --> 0:16:59.310
<v Speaker 1>landscape up. Let's build up the yard in that area.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you can do it with some small retaining walls

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<v Speaker 1>and with planters alongside. Sometimes you can hide the ramp

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<v Speaker 1>altogether with planting in front of it if it moves

0:17:08.730 --> 0:17:11.100
<v Speaker 1>along the house from the driveway. You just got to

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<v Speaker 1>get really creative in our thinking here. And most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, there's a way to overcome it. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we've gotten inside the house now. One of the main

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<v Speaker 1>issues about negotiating in and through your house has got

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<v Speaker 1>to be hallways and doorways. Now, if it's a new build,

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<v Speaker 1>or a major remodel, that's the only way I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to say to you, practically speaking, think about maybe widening

0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.550
<v Speaker 1>the hallway, all right? But widening the hallway otherwise, it

0:17:39.590 --> 0:17:43.390
<v Speaker 1>compromises rooms, it's super expensive, it's just a lot. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, okay? If it needs to be done, it

0:17:45.930 --> 0:17:51.189
<v Speaker 1>needs to be done. Otherwise, usually widening the doors into

0:17:51.310 --> 0:17:56.989
<v Speaker 1>rooms is the most ideal and far less expensive option. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's replacing doors, to which most homeowners, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to me right now, you probably, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>living in a tract home, probably need your doors replaced anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>because you got those hollow core doors on all of

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<v Speaker 1>the rooms of your house, which as far as sound

0:18:13.910 --> 0:18:16.910
<v Speaker 1>privacy is concerned, might as well just be a sheet

0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.859
<v Speaker 1>tacked up over the doorway. You know, I'm a huge

0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:24.949
<v Speaker 1>believer in solid core interior doors. And so, If we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to plan on changing out the doors anyway, here's

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<v Speaker 1>a little framing secret from the old framer to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you how doorways are built in the framing. You think

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<v Speaker 1>about widening doors, you're like, I don't want to tear

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<v Speaker 1>up all the wall and get to you. Okay. Every

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<v Speaker 1>doorway has at least three more inches in it that

0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.600
<v Speaker 1>it can give you in width as it stands. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's because the header, the structural part over the door

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<v Speaker 1>is is running to the king studs. Those are the

0:18:54.940 --> 0:18:57.000
<v Speaker 1>studs that the header is nailed into that go all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to the floor. And then underneath that header

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<v Speaker 1>are two what we call trimmers. Trimmers are two other

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<v Speaker 1>pieces of two-by material that are up underneath. They're each

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<v Speaker 1>an inch and a half wide, and they're a support

0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.520
<v Speaker 1>for the header. Now, There are clips and hanger brackets

0:19:15.580 --> 0:19:18.900
<v Speaker 1>these days that can replace the job that the trimmers

0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.940
<v Speaker 1>are doing. So we could pull the trimmers out, not

0:19:21.980 --> 0:19:24.580
<v Speaker 1>replace the header, pull the trimmers out, and guess what?

0:19:24.619 --> 0:19:29.020
<v Speaker 1>That gives us three extra inches of space. So a

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<v Speaker 1>30-inch wide door can become a 33, a 32-inch wide

0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.290
<v Speaker 1>door can become almost a 36-inch wide door. And when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to walkers, Wheelchairs, yes, they're narrower than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of them are between 24 and 27 inches wide,

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<v Speaker 1>but you got hands on the outside. outside of those

0:19:50.869 --> 0:19:56.470
<v Speaker 1>wheels and knuckles. And that's why, generally speaking, a 32-inch

0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:01.820
<v Speaker 1>wide door is our minimum requirement for a navigable door

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<v Speaker 1>with a walker or a wheelchair. Ideally, 36. And you're like, well,

0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:11.030
<v Speaker 1>36 sounds like overkill, Dean. It's not. Because... 36 is

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<v Speaker 1>the width of the space in between edge of jam

0:20:14.410 --> 0:20:16.629
<v Speaker 1>to edge of jam. But when you open a door

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<v Speaker 1>with a standard hinge, now at 90 degrees, that door itself,

0:20:23.340 --> 0:20:26.240
<v Speaker 1>which is an inch and three-eighths wide, is sticking into

0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.220
<v Speaker 1>the opening. Just think about that. You swing the door open,

0:20:29.260 --> 0:20:31.940
<v Speaker 1>the door is still sticking in an inch and three-eighths.

0:20:31.980 --> 0:20:34.169
<v Speaker 1>So whatever the width of your jam is, you got

0:20:34.190 --> 0:20:37.699
<v Speaker 1>to subtract another inch and a half Because that's the

0:20:37.780 --> 0:20:42.240
<v Speaker 1>real opening of the doorway because the door is encroaching

0:20:42.380 --> 0:20:45.020
<v Speaker 1>still in that opening. That's why we want to go

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<v Speaker 1>as wide as possible. All right. Last item that I

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<v Speaker 1>have time to harp on today and to point out

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<v Speaker 1>is lighting. Now, you know, I have somehow gained a

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<v Speaker 1>reputation because I hear it all the time from clients

0:21:00.170 --> 0:21:02.209
<v Speaker 1>that we end up talking to or consults that we do.

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<v Speaker 1>We know how you hate recessed lighting. I don't. I

0:21:06.220 --> 0:21:10.080
<v Speaker 1>don't hate recessed lighting. I just hate recessed lighting that's

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<v Speaker 1>inappropriately used and unartfully designed. Recessed lighting should be indirect.

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<v Speaker 1>It should not be just lighting up floor space everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And especially in terms of aging in place, here's where

0:21:24.609 --> 0:21:29.409
<v Speaker 1>really good lighting design comes into play. Because recessed can lighting,

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<v Speaker 1>although it seems like very utilitarian, One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that is most difficult to navigate in an aging situation

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<v Speaker 1>is glare. I don't want a ceiling full of lights

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<v Speaker 1>that cause glare or a hallway full of recessed lights

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 1>that cause glare in the eyes because older eyes have

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<v Speaker 1>trouble focusing and dealing with those heavy contrasts. Wonderful lighting

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<v Speaker 1>for a home in aging in place means throwing as

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<v Speaker 1>much soft indirect, non-glaring light down onto the floor areas

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<v Speaker 1>as possible and not eliminating shadows. We're not trying to

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:17.020
<v Speaker 1>blow out every bit of darkness in a room, just

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite. We're trying to create a well-lit room with

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<v Speaker 1>lots of shadowing in it so that, not darkness, but shadowing,

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<v Speaker 1>so that we create depth perception because a completely blown

0:22:30.810 --> 0:22:36.180
<v Speaker 1>out room we lose our sense of depth and spaciousness

0:22:36.260 --> 0:22:39.320
<v Speaker 1>in it. And being able to gauge the fact that, oh,

0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:41.660
<v Speaker 1>the chair is a few feet away instead of just,

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:44.060
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea, everything all looks at the same

0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:48.530
<v Speaker 1>depth to me. This is where really wise recessed lighting goes.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're having a kitchen remodel done, I will

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<v Speaker 1>throw this in as a bonus. Absolutely, without question, have

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<v Speaker 1>the electricians, as the new cabinets go in, put... LED

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<v Speaker 1>strip lighting down on the bottom of the cabinets near

0:23:05.420 --> 0:23:07.660
<v Speaker 1>the floor in the upper part of that little kick

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.560
<v Speaker 1>area for your foot the foot kick okay the toe

0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:15.609
<v Speaker 1>kick area indirect LED strip lighting down there on a

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<v Speaker 1>separate switch or dimmer I tell you you will love

0:23:19.070 --> 0:23:21.690
<v Speaker 1>it it is this soft beautiful light that lights up

0:23:21.730 --> 0:23:24.119
<v Speaker 1>the edge of the floor of the kitchen and It

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.660
<v Speaker 1>is so efficient and so effective in trying to gauge

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 1>where the floor is and what's on the floor and

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<v Speaker 1>so on and so forth. There are so many tricks

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about and we don't have time to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to hit the biggies as we went.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's take a break. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll wrap this up. I've got some closing thoughts for

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<v Speaker 1>you and then I will release you onto your day,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't go anywhere. We've got one more segment to

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<v Speaker 1>hit and we'll do it right after this. You're home

0:23:52.470 --> 0:23:54.760
<v Speaker 1>with Dean Sharpe the house whispering.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 3>KFI AM 640.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been talking aging in place today, and here we

0:24:02.580 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 1>are at the end of another three hours spent together. Yes,

0:24:06.180 --> 0:24:08.980
<v Speaker 1>we've just scratched the surface, but I hope through the

0:24:09.030 --> 0:24:11.449
<v Speaker 1>combination of the topics that I've been covering and our

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<v Speaker 1>calls that you've got some new inspirations, some new energizing

0:24:18.430 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 1>motivation to consider Aging in place is one of those

0:24:23.700 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 1>fundamental design issues to add to your home. It's something

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:33.720
<v Speaker 1>that we all have to face eventually. One last thing

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to throw at you. One last thing

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:39.070
<v Speaker 1>that you won't hear in most aging in place conversations

0:24:39.090 --> 0:24:40.639
<v Speaker 1>because so much of it is about, you know, the

0:24:40.660 --> 0:24:43.010
<v Speaker 1>grab bars and this and that. One of the most

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<v Speaker 1>useful aging in place design strategies for our generation, no doubt,

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<v Speaker 1>is planning for in-home fitness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, the better that you're feeling,

0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 1>the stronger you are, the better your balance. No amount

0:24:59.420 --> 0:25:04.160
<v Speaker 1>of home prep or bumpers or widened doors or no

0:25:04.260 --> 0:25:10.510
<v Speaker 1>steps can beat the effectiveness of an extendedly healthy you.

0:25:10.950 --> 0:25:14.010
<v Speaker 1>And so that's something that I would say for those

0:25:14.050 --> 0:25:16.369
<v Speaker 1>of you who are considering like, oh, you know, a

0:25:16.410 --> 0:25:18.110
<v Speaker 1>lot of this is a little bit in the distance

0:25:18.170 --> 0:25:21.050
<v Speaker 1>for us. What should we start with? I would start

0:25:21.230 --> 0:25:25.570
<v Speaker 1>with making sure that your exercise routine and regimens are

0:25:25.670 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 1>in place first and then add the other things layer

0:25:29.910 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 1>by layer as you go along. So that spare bedroom

0:25:33.740 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>that the kids haven't boomeranged back into yet, a spare

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.540
<v Speaker 1>bedroom that holds the treadmill or the rower or the

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:44.030
<v Speaker 1>stationary bike or the infrared sauna. I mean, there are

0:25:44.410 --> 0:25:47.250
<v Speaker 1>a slew of things that are available to you now.

0:25:47.700 --> 0:25:50.260
<v Speaker 1>to take you from where you are right now and

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.780
<v Speaker 1>actually take you further along because it's a healthy you

0:25:53.980 --> 0:25:56.620
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day that's going to do

0:25:56.660 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>better than any set of house preparation can do. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that the other stuff isn't necessary. Of

0:26:04.820 --> 0:26:08.380
<v Speaker 1>course it is. But I don't want to leave off

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:12.500
<v Speaker 1>this all-important thing, and that is do your best to

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:17.100
<v Speaker 1>fend it off to begin with. Eventually, time comes for

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:20.719
<v Speaker 1>us all Understood. But do your best to push it off.

0:26:20.780 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 1>The whole idea these days, you know, with the situation

0:26:24.619 --> 0:26:27.580
<v Speaker 1>that we find ourselves in, it's a unique place in

0:26:27.660 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>life where lifespan has been extended by medicines, but not

0:26:33.100 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>necessarily health span or vibrancy. So that to a certain

0:26:38.300 --> 0:26:41.899
<v Speaker 1>degree in everybody's life is to a certain degree within

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:45.450
<v Speaker 1>their own hands. So don't forget the fitness aspect either

0:26:45.730 --> 0:26:48.730
<v Speaker 1>as we go along. All right, I'm going to leave

0:26:48.770 --> 0:26:54.350
<v Speaker 1>you with this thought today. We've spent the last hundred

0:26:54.410 --> 0:26:59.950
<v Speaker 1>years adding years to life. Now the work is adding

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<v Speaker 1>life to those years, right? In the great theater of life,

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<v Speaker 1>your house is a stage. That's what I do for

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<v Speaker 1>a living, right? It's arguably the most important stage in

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<v Speaker 1>your life, but the stage is not the play. And

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be clear. Today we've talked about the stage,

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<v Speaker 1>a step-free entry, wider doorways, good lighting, walk-in showers. Do

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<v Speaker 1>all of it. Do it early while it's a choice

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<v Speaker 1>and not an emergency. Because a well-prepared house is a

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<v Speaker 1>gift that you give to your future self. But be

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<v Speaker 1>under no illusions. The house is the stage. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>the play. A walk-in shower doesn't make a morning worth

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<v Speaker 1>getting up for. The reason to stay in your home

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<v Speaker 1>is everything that happens inside it. It's the coffee in

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<v Speaker 1>the chair by the window. It's the table that has

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<v Speaker 1>room for one more person to be with you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the workshop and the time you spend in it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the garden that you still talk to. We are living

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<v Speaker 1>longer together. than any generation before us. And nobody handed

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<v Speaker 1>us a map for it. And that's because there is

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<v Speaker 1>no map. These are uncharted waters to which I say, good.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it about time for a new adventure? We'd all

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<v Speaker 1>love to retire from the daily grind. That's fair. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's one thing we can never afford to retire from.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonder.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to feel young again? Put wonder back in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Learn new things. Think new thoughts. Become a novice at something.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the very definition of youth, except, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you were really actually young, you were too young and

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<v Speaker 1>too much of an idiot to appreciate it. But sailing

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<v Speaker 1>into uncharted waters with some experience under your belt and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even a little bit of wisdom, that's an adventure

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<v Speaker 1>worth having. You've heard that youth is wasted on the young. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a new one for you, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>quote me on it. It's just as true. By and large,

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<v Speaker 1>age is wasted on the old. Nobody handed us a

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<v Speaker 1>map for it, so draw your own. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>want these years to hold? Who do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be at the table with? What are you still curious about?

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<v Speaker 1>What haven't you made or learned or let go of

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<v Speaker 1>or finally said out loud? Get more wonder into your life.

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<v Speaker 1>There's plenty of it to go around because, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of all the things there are to know and do

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<v Speaker 1>and be at 80, you've barely put a dent in it.

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<v Speaker 1>in them. So no excuses. Stay curious about the light

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<v Speaker 1>in your kitchen at four in the afternoon. Stay amazed

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<v Speaker 1>by a tomato that you grew for yourself, by a

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<v Speaker 1>song that you've heard a thousand times, by a stranger's story.

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<v Speaker 1>A house can be made safe with lumber and lighting

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<v Speaker 1>and hardware. But a life stays young because you keep

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<v Speaker 1>looking at it like it's brand new. So build your

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<v Speaker 1>stage and then make your debut. Never retire from wonder.

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<v Speaker 1>Use it to keep building yourself a beautiful life. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the rest of this beautiful weekend. We'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>right back here next week. This has been Home with

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Sharpe. the House Whisperer. Tune into the live broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>on KFI AM 640 every Saturday morning from 6 to

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