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Speaker 2: We were supposed to be so far past this, weren't

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Speaker 3: More on that later. In PJ.

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Speaker 2: Flack, we had a with it and wow version of

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Speaker 2: what a college football coach is supposed to be in

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Speaker 2: clear about something there know there is not a single coach,

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Speaker 3: I don't even think anymore. It's close.

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Speaker 2: You cannot turn on a national show on a Saturday,

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Speaker 2: I wish I could play for koc. This is the guy.

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Speaker 2: He's figured out everything at the quarterback position, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking to myself, as the lost weekend plays out,

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Speaker 2: lose because you're gonna lose. You're gonna lose some games

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Speaker 3: But the headline was PJ.

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Speaker 2: Fleck has raised the Gopher's floor, but can he now

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Speaker 2: raise their ceiling? Vital question, crucial question. I think we

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Speaker 2: got our answer, boys and girls, He's not going to

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Speaker 2: be what we are, a cute little club. How many

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Speaker 2: times have we talked about we spent last week I

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Speaker 3: But what did we add? That victory has opened the door.

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Speaker 2: To people in this town, that including casual college football fans,

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Speaker 2: Maybe not gonna make the national championship playoffs, but maybe

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Speaker 3: That was the moment.

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Speaker 2: We've had that happen season after season where you win

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to hear the whining in the

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Speaker 2: in which I'm told after the game the Wild deserve better.

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Speaker 2: I don't care anymore if they deserve better. I care

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Speaker 2: if at the end of the game they have more

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Speaker 3: They figure it out, They find a way to win

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Speaker 2: So I don't even want to hear about that anymore.

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Speaker 3: We got beat by better goaltending. That's hockey.

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Speaker 2: That's why the position is viewed as as having such

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Speaker 3: Of the Wild. They're back in action.

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Speaker 2: Today, right tonight. The Wolves are back in action. Tonight

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Speaker 2: Wolves got carved up. The Wolves, the team committed to

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to be enough to put

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Speaker 2: aren't that different. They really aren't, except that they're perceived differently. Admittedly,

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Speaker 2: when you have a fourteen to three season, I don't

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Speaker 3: It's undeniable.

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Speaker 2: And the Minnesota Wild haven't gotten out around one in

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Speaker 2: This congratulation of boy, everybody wants to play for Koc

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Speaker 2: Just lucky to have lucky to have him and PJ,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't that the Vikings went to la and lost

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Speaker 3: It was those weren't professional.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess you could use professional with college now performances,

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Speaker 3: And exactly for what reason? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So you know we're gonna get into this little later

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Speaker 2: Sunday Sermons is the name of the program. Barrero and

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Speaker 3: For Penn State. William come on places like.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was impossible. Now, Indiana hasn't won anything yet,

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Speaker 2: So what have we said, go back to when there

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Speaker 2: And again that's not an incompetent coach by any stretch

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Speaker 3: He stuck it to them.

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Speaker 2: He delivered a message to the Vikings that you might

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Speaker 2: We're going to show you because we're going to run

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Speaker 3: Six four six, eight six.

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Speaker 2: I love these pj's the winning as coach and GOP

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Speaker 3: That's not raising the ceiling.

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Speaker 2: Those folks, they emerge and they don't listen to what

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Speaker 2: By the way, these folks also forget how many more

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Speaker 3: Not gonna happen every year here because they have disadvantages.

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Speaker 2: We just have too much proof of that fact, especially

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Speaker 3: End of story. On the road. And then obviously Ohio

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Speaker 4: Even if Ohio State's a very good team, twenty nineteen

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Speaker 4: Also, PJ. Fleck the winningest coach in Minnesota history. His

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Speaker 3: Game's over.

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Speaker 2: At that point, you pivoted from Koc versus Harbaugh to

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Speaker 2: It's both. Let's make no mistake, and people who cover

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Speaker 3: You're not paying attention.

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Speaker 2: I know who's got the titles, and I'm not taking

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Speaker 2: it's still not going so well for us. We made

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Speaker 3: In any case, it's not working out really well.

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Speaker 2: And somebody told me going to go for men's hockey

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Speaker 3: So we'll get to some texts.

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Speaker 3: Six one two. Guy doesn't quite get it. He thinks

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Speaker 2: The what's the term I could go with here? The

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Speaker 2: He thinks, I am in all, I am being haughty

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Speaker 3: Wow, do you ever mentioned do you ever mention it?

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Speaker 2: You can go with that if you want, And yes,

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Speaker 3: It could be, as it was.

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Speaker 2: For a significant amount of time North Bleeping Western under

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Speaker 2: message is being delivered to say, let let's stop pretending

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Speaker 2: that up can't happen here. We'll win, some, will lose some.

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Speaker 2: We'll occasionally beat a ranked team. Well, we'll storm the

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. When they beat Illinois, wasn't Illinois

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Speaker 2: Indiana edged Illinois sixty three to ten earlier this fall

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Speaker 2: or late summer.

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Speaker 6: Is you're.

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Speaker 2: You can make it about me, and you can be

442
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: mad at me, but you're missing the point of the message,

443
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 2: which I've delivered for a long time before Indiana got

444
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Speaker 2: on the map.

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Speaker 3: They did not They did not wait a minute.

446
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Speaker 4: They didn't storm the field this season against Illinois. Yeah, no,

447
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 4: why not.

448
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Speaker 2: I mean, if any place had a right to say

449
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: we don't ever have any success, we're strutting out. It's

450
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: a harder feel the storm from I'll grant you, because

451
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: the way the seats are situated a little bit difficult.

452
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Speaker 2: But Vanderbilt somebody mentioned it. Yeah, Vanderbilt's another mace brought

453
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: them up this week. Another great story. There's no question

454
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Speaker 2: there are some several stories in that classification. What happened

455
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: in the while last.

456
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Speaker 4: Night, same thing that's been happened in the wild for

457
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 4: the last like two weeks. It seems like when you

458
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: talk about did.

459
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Speaker 2: We get down by bad goalten, bad defense, bad luck?

460
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: We were down three to nothing early?

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00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: Correct?

462
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Speaker 4: I mean to me, if you I mean, there's a

463
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: little bit of everything. I think I wouldn't put it

464
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 4: as much as bad luck as it is. Just yeah,

465
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Speaker 4: there's some bounces that could go. But that's just the game.

466
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 4: Like you said in the first thing, that's the game

467
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 4: of hockey. And you would think that, you know, when

468
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 4: you say, ah, we deserve better, you would think that

469
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 4: would even itself out as luck would go over the

470
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Speaker 4: course of time. You could you could write off a

471
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Speaker 4: bad weekend like that, you could even I'd even accept

472
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 4: writing off a bad road trip. Yes, with that, I

473
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 4: think we've gotten to the point now where it's too

474
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 4: many games happening and over and over and over again

475
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 4: where you can write it off completely. I think they

476
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 4: just have to play. It's simple, but they just have

477
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: to play better and more clinical and be up for it.

478
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 4: You can't give up goals. There was one a couple

479
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: of weeks ago at home where it was just right

480
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 4: off the drop in the second period goal. Last night

481
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 4: opening face off goal. It just it can't happen.

482
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Speaker 2: No, And again, we're very early in the season. There's

483
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: plenty of time to recover. But when you come off

484
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Speaker 2: a road trip, as we talked about Friday, in which

485
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Speaker 2: you end up with three out of potential ten points,

486
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: the pressure's kind of on because now I think this

487
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: is the that was game one of a six game

488
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: homestand that you got to you got to obviously compensate

489
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: for it, right. The idea is you got to kind

490
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Speaker 2: of make up for it as well. What's the Utah nickname,

491
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Speaker 2: by the way, the mammoth. What do you think that

492
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Speaker 2: you what you're feeling about the mammoth? You're okay with it.

493
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Speaker 2: I think it's fine. I think the yetie would have

494
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Speaker 2: been better. I yeah, well, so what's do we know?

495
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Speaker 2: The rationale for the mammoth in Utah is the wooly

496
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Speaker 2: mammoth found there first, probably near Salt Lake or mountains

497
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Speaker 2: snowy the mammoth, the mammoth. I'm not sure I like

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Speaker 2: that any better than I've never liked the wild as

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Speaker 2: a nickname.

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Speaker 4: I've never liked it. You do like it, well, but

501
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 4: I grew up with it. Yeah, that's true, so I

502
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 4: am biased.

503
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Speaker 3: That's true.

504
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Speaker 2: And I love the colors too. I don't even remember

505
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Speaker 2: what else we were we were thinking of doing.

506
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Speaker 3: Well, I can look it up. But the names were bad.

507
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: They were They were.

508
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: Like the Blue Ox, the the Blue Ox.

509
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Speaker 3: I don't like color qualifiers of the name. I like

510
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: the Golden Knights.

511
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Speaker 4: I don't like that. Just just be the Knights, be

512
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: the nights. Anyways, would you.

513
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Speaker 2: Be okay if we were the Ox, the Blue Oxes

514
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Speaker 2: the Minnesota part of it?

515
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: Obviously?

516
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, we're looking for Yeah, the wild is fine,

517
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 4: it is, it's good.

518
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Speaker 3: I like it a lot, actually, I really do.

519
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 4: And that green anyways, No, they're just not playing up

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00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: to snuff right now. Now, the good news is the

521
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 4: fan has learned. The season is eighty two games long.

522
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 4: You do get healthier, it gets a Gurello back, you

523
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: get Nico back eventually. Yeah, but in this league, particular,

524
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 4: the way the points work, you would much rather be

525
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: like we saw last year, get off to a star. Yeah,

526
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 4: and then if you stink in the midway season, it's

527
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: harder to fall than it is to chase. Chasing is

528
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 4: the hardest thing you can do in the NHL. It's

529
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: just the way the points work, because even if you're bad,

530
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: you can get a half, you can get half the

531
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 4: points from an overtime loss and still hang around in

532
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Speaker 4: the standings.

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Speaker 3: But chasing is just difficult. So they have to turn

534
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: around in quick.

535
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Speaker 2: Thank goodness, Purdue handed the game to the Gophers, or

536
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: things would really look bleak. Gophers made Perdue look like

537
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: you look competitive on defense, punting seven times produce opponents

538
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: the previous in their prior three Power Conference games punted

539
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: combined three times. Yeah, that was I mean, that was

540
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: the gift. They took advantage of it. That was one

541
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: of those games where you have to I don't know

542
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: that Purdue left the Gophers with any choice but to

543
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: win the game. But he raises a good point. If

544
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: you do not get that one, then everything looks even worse.

545
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: You've got a gimme this week. Michigan State's awful. I

546
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: think Michigan State might be winless in the Big Ten.

547
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: You get them at home, and I think we get

548
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: to buy and then you got to go to Oregon.

549
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Speaker 2: That's the way to write the season, not write it,

550
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: but it too. You know, I guess put a signature

551
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: victory on a season because Oregon, although they didn't play

552
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Speaker 2: particularly well against your club, the Badgers.

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Speaker 3: Was it seven nothing at the half? In in Oregon?

554
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: It was close pretty much the whole time, pretty much

555
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: never scored again. Is that was it a shutout? They

556
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: had one touchdown? Oh, you did get a touchdown.

557
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: It was the first touchdown for the Badgers in fourteen quarters.

558
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think everybody expected, though probably a much

559
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: worse score, which tells you how far Wisconsin has fallen

560
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Speaker 2: from the glory of the Barry Alvareze days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, at one point the quarterback was one

562
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: for thirteen in passing attempts. It's just it's a miserable

563
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 4: I didn't even want to watch it, to be honest,

564
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 4: I was on my phone while it was happened to

565
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 4: be on in that place.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's that bad.

567
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 4: So but here's the thing, and you can call them

568
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 4: spoiled because I argue about this with Guards the all

569
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Speaker 4: the time.

570
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: With the Gophers.

571
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 4: Is the expectations, right, you talked about raising the ceilings. Yes,

572
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: we probably have texts like, well, we'll never be Ohio State.

573
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: You know, that's just our expectations, you know, we we

574
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 4: just will never be that. So let's be happy with

575
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 4: an eight win season. No, like Badger fans want Fickle

576
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 4: gone and the whole thing gutted to start over because

577
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: it's not working.

578
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 3: So it's just exit.

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Speaker 2: It looks like a good hire too. I I don't know.

580
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: I don't don't know what to make of it. Why

581
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: is this is from Brandon out of New Mexico? Do

582
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: you agree with this sentiment? Why has gus Bus been

583
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: terrible since the first game of the season Do you

584
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: accept that premise?

585
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 4: He definitely, I think terrible is not the right word.

586
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 4: I would say not as sharp is what I would

587
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: He has not been as sharp as he was last year.

588
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 4: I think Walstad is just playing currently just as good,

589
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 4: if not better. I think obviously Gus still has the

590
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 4: higher ceiling, but we're just not seeing that right now.

591
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: Heck of a weekend for Menzo for Minnesota, Vikings get Trouns,

592
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: Wolves lose, the Lakers, Gophers get swept by UMD, and

593
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: the ice ghost destroyed at Iowa and wild Lows. What

594
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: a time to be Minnesota sports fan. That's from trail

595
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: ref guy who may be just joining the program. Missed

596
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Speaker 2: the first segment we have. This might shock you, trail

597
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: ref guy, but we did notice and did comment on

598
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Speaker 2: the lost nature of the weekend this morning. Thank god

599
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl guys checking in and they're coming in so fast.

600
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: Here. Let me scroll down to get to.

601
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Speaker 4: One of the most consistent Gopher homers outside of Justin Garden.

602
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: At least I think he might be at the top

603
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: of the top of the food chain. You sound like

604
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: you've lost touch, all touch with reality this morning. Go

605
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: for a walk or something and reset your expectations for

606
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 2: the Gophers.

607
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 3: There it is.

608
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: I'd say more, but I think your hatred of PJ

609
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: and always taking the easy way out has been set

610
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: in too long.

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Speaker 3: We are fine row the boat, Rose Bowl Guy.

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00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 2: Well, to be honest, as long as Rose Bowl Guy

613
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 2: carries water, he probably will be fine. I I walk

614
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: every day, Rose Bowl Guy, I will walk today. I

615
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: will enjoy the way I can. It's possible to do

616
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: two things at once. You can take a walk and

617
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: you can also acknowledge what just took place this weekend

618
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: and how In the case of the Gophers, it's a

619
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: symptom of what we kind of come to expect every year.

620
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 2: We're gonna there's a game we're gonna win where we go, hey,

621
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: maybe something's going on here, and then we'll follow that up,

622
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: not always the next week, but soon enough with a

623
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Speaker 2: game where you go, well, we kind of squandered that

624
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: what door. We seem to have opened a door, and

625
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: we shut it two or either the next week in

626
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: this case, or two three weeks later, with a performance

627
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: that took away a lot of the juice and momentum

628
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: that was established with it. Rosemold Guy, Yeah, I love you,

629
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 2: We appreciate that you. But I in all, with all,

630
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: in good conscience, I would say there's a chance you

631
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: might have lost touch with reality if you are surprised

632
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: that the day after the morning after the local football

633
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: team goes to Iowa and gets destroyed the way they did,

634
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: especially in the first half, that there might be some

635
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: pushback or some disappointment. Because if there can't be any

636
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: of that, then why are we bothering even to keep

637
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 2: the score. Why don't we just go ahead and give

638
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 2: PJ now the lifetime contract, extend it right now?

639
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: My god, man, that's.

640
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: Not living, I would say in reality, now, rosebol Guy

641
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: probably needs to live in that environment. That's that's where,

642
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: that's his comfort zone. That's not our comfort zone. Because

643
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: I can't lie to listeners. I'm not good at that.

644
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: Because most listeners Rose Bowl Guy, they are rooting for

645
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: the local teams. But I think a lot of listeners

646
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 2: are the kind of fan I was when I grew up,

647
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: And I can tell you I didn't want pablom from

648
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: talk show hosts. I didn't want mealy mouthed excuses every

649
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: week if something wasn't going right.

650
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 3: I was still going to root for the team. I

651
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: want to know.

652
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: We'll give me this, what's going on here, how's that

653
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: happen that That's that's not sitting well with me. I

654
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in having the comfort of everything's great

655
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Speaker 2: no big deal, these things happen. I didn't want to

656
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Speaker 2: live in that world at all. I wanted from the

657
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Speaker 2: from the players, from the coaches, from the broadcasters, from

658
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: the inkstain wretches. I wanted, come on, give me something,

659
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: give me a skinny. How do we explain this is?

660
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: This isn't terrible. I got to figure this out. All right,

661
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: let's get back on schedule. One more break. We've got

662
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: a full hour and fifteen minutes yet to come, Lots

663
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: more to get to.

664
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: Don't go away Sunday Sermons brought to you by jtr Roofing.

665
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: All right, let's get some texts coming in.

666
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: Anything to the talkback line yet any talkbackers yet of worth?

667
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: I guess you probably answered that question. I'll leave you

668
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: to be the editor. If there's something worthy, let me know.

669
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: If not, no big deal, I'll live with either. Here's

670
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: some texts have come in. Dan, You're spot on your assessments.

671
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: In fact, you're even being too nice. I live in Philly,

672
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: and they would not be as nice as you're being

673
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: about this. I grew up in Minnesota, worked for the

674
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: Vikes and bleed Purple and Maroon for that matter, and

675
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: these performances need to be called out for what they

676
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: are hideous. Yeah, they I mean we're getting a lot

677
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: of the old These things happen, they do, but rarely

678
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: at this level and rarely on the On the same weekend,

679
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: do we have to go back? We had several Vikings

680
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: talking points. Did the post mortem on the Vikings game

681
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: a Friday?

682
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: Obviously?

683
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: Do we really want to go back over the grizzly details?

684
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I I called, well, here's here's maybe the

685
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: difference between the two disasters, the two debacles this weekend.

686
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: There's a there's an element of Vikings fans who are

687
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: able to wrap themselves into the quarterback cocoon, as in,

688
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: once we get our savior, we're gonna be fine. And

689
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: that I'm talking they're talking about obviously JJ McCarthy. And that,

690
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: by the way, is if he's healthy enough to play

691
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: against Detroit. Let me reiterate that if he is healthy

692
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: and enough. I take nothing for granted on JJ McCarthy

693
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: at this point in terms of his availability.

694
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 3: Zero.

695
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: He has to prove to me he can be available

696
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: before I'm gonna believe he's gonna be available. I know

697
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: everybody assumes it because now you got the extra time

698
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: in between games, and everybody's talking good. But let's see

699
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: and once he's out there, let's see how long the

700
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: thing lasts. And you know, again, I the mcbobos are

701
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: weird in that they forget I endorsed the move, the pick,

702
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: the aggressiveness to go get him. I'm not anti JJ McCarthy.

703
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: I didn't like what I saw early, that's for sure.

704
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: But you're obviously not going to give up on him

705
00:41:59,400 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: after two.

706
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 3: Games, teams.

707
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: But what I've said repeatedly is that you're having these

708
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: debates with people about his worthiness when he's not playing.

709
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: He's not available as a choice, so there's nothing yet

710
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: to think about. There nothing, There's no real rational debate

711
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: until he can prove he's healthy enough to play. That

712
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: wasn't me standing tall for Carson Wentz. That was me saying,

713
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz is upright, you got to play somebody at

714
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: the position. And we're going to get into more of

715
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: the quarterback thing as it broadens out in trying to

716
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: explain to people why the Vikings are in a position

717
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: where nationally you're hearing a lot of chatter about the

718
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: decisions the Vikings didn't make at the quarterback position or

719
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: the direction they ultimately chose to go when they seemingly

720
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: had a number of other options, some of them on roster.

721
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: We're going to get into that in the uh in

722
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: the ten o'clock hour. I've got a good Gopher talk

723
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: back for you.

724
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: Let's get it, Dan, Mike and Nurthman.

725
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 5: I've done some work for a huge Gopher football booster,

726
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 5: and one thing I learned from him is that he

727
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 5: is one on board with PJ Fleck. They are fully

728
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 5: convinced that there's nothing that PJ can do with the

729
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 5: nil situation. So they are carrying his water and they

730
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 5: are fully convinced that he is the best thing we're

731
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 5: ever going to get. So you're right, this is how

732
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 5: the boosters feel. It's not good interesting, all right? Well

733
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 5: yeah that I I've.

734
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: Said this a couple of times.

735
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: I'm not what I'm trying to get people to come

736
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: to grips with is it may well be true that

737
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: this is the best you're going to be able to

738
00:43:53,800 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: do here, even though blooming Bloomington, Indiana, Evanston, Illinois in

739
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: Wisconsin at various times would say history tells us something different,

740
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: but you want to grant the point grant the point.

741
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm not here to give you another name or to

742
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: call for his head. All I'm here to say is

743
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: I'm now at peace with I think what is evident.

744
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: We've seen the bottom raised. We're not going to see

745
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: the ceiling ever raised here to a significant to that

746
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: next step. It's just never going to happen here. That's

747
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: all I'm That's all I'm asking you to do. And

748
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: maybe it would make it easier to accept the ebbs

749
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: and flows at that point that that's what this is.

750
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: So to the question the start to mute thought was

751
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: worthy of asking in the preseason, how much can he

752
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: raise the ceiling, I think we have the answer to that.

753
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 3: Not much. Floor, a lot better, a lot more respectable.

754
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: Although there was nothing particularly I mean, we were at

755
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: the floor yesterday I think in Iowa City. But overall, yeah,

756
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: the floor has been raised a great deal. I just

757
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: don't think the you're going to see what I think.

758
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: Any fan, even in a place like this, has a

759
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: right to expect. Let's just say once every three years

760
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: or four years, or forget three or four times in

761
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: five years. Let's just say once or twice every three

762
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: or four or five years. Hey, they're a little better.

763
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, some stuff's coming together, so they're going

764
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: to maximize in that season without expecting them to repeat it.

765
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: What we get out of that season ain't happening. And

766
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: I think we just have enough evidence to say that

767
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: he is what he is, and that's what this thing's

768
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: going to be, and he's going to say his stuff,

769
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 2: and he's going to have players who want to play

770
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: for him, and it's going to be a very stable program.

771
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: There's no question about that. But that's sort of I

772
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: think where we are, our number two, our number two.

773
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 2: Why did you cut my talk back off earth? Because

774
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: I think that was the end of it right time.

775
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 2: There's a thirty second limit on talkbacks, which of course

776
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: means I would fail miserably in the talkback community because

777
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 2: I mean thirty seconds, I've barely cleared my throat. Well,

778
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 2: I'm viewed as the guy who wants us to run

779
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: the ball like seventy five times a game, So maybe

780
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: I wouldn't lead with that, even though I do think

781
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 2: it's a it's a salient issue that the head coach

782
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: has not handled the way he had told us in

783
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: training camp he was going to I guess my first

784
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: question might be weather at some point he has concerned

785
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 2: that all of the statements he tends to make about

786
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 2: the culture that's been built and you know, the the thinking,

787
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: the long game right, putting in place an approach, and

788
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: as much as I hate to use the culture World

789
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: War I will, does he have any concern that at

790
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: some point the words lose their meaning if they can't

791
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: be matched with success on the field. Now, you could say, well,

792
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 2: his comeback could be recently. As a year ago, Dan,

793
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: we were fourteen and three, which is true. What's working

794
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: against him right now is didn't we lose We lost

795
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: our last regular season game, correct, and then we lost

796
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: our only playoff game. So that's zero and two, and

797
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: our record this year is what three and four? I

798
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: think we've dropped a three and four? Yeah, so that

799
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: means we've lost six of our last nine games that mattered,

800
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 2: including the playoff game. And he's had some bad luck.

801
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: The guy they wanted to be the quarterback has not

802
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: been available after the second game. I grant that they've

803
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: had issues at the along the offensive line in terms

804
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: of injury, but again, we can play the game about

805
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 2: other teams and how they've handled those same injuries quarterbacks key,

806
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: but probably would be the concern about whether because he

807
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: even went with a very unusual approach after the Rams

808
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: or excuse me after the Chargers game, where he basically said,

809
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: I didn't have anybody prepared to play It's on me,

810
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: that cliche, which he doesn't usually play that card very often,

811
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: and even that can be dangerous because you can't play that,

812
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: You can't play it often. You repeat, you can play

813
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: that once maybe twice, and then all that does afterwards

814
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: is people are gonna It's almost the Pelfrey thing again,

815
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: where you can say, my bad man, I didn't get

816
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: it done today.

817
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: It's on me. That was the whole point of the

818
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 3: pel scale.

819
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: If you do that after every time you get routed,

820
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: and you're doing that almost routinely, at some point people

821
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: are no longer going to wow, you know, holding himself accountable.

822
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: At some point you got to make it about more

823
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: than the words. I guess it would be a little

824
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: bit of that at the start, but there'd be many

825
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 2: a number of other ways to go in that regard,

826
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: certainly including the not helping whoever he has at quarterback

827
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: enough by using more of the running game.

828
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 3: And I I just don't like if you run the ball.

829
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: His comeback.

830
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 2: I think after the game was well on one run

831
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 2: we ended up getting a holding call, and I'd say, yeah,

832
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 2: but there's times you get a holding call going back

833
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: to pass that doesn't You don't use that to say, oh,

834
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: I'm never going to pass again, right, I mean, you

835
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: have you have to be more consistent with it.

836
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: And I if.

837
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: He hands the ball off and it's minus three, it's

838
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: almost like, well, I got it now, I'm kind of

839
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 2: done with it. If he had stability at the quarterback position,

840
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: things established there, I think differently. But I'm just at

841
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: a point where even when McCarthy comes back, whenever that is,

842
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: I assume you'll come back this season, at some point

843
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: the ankle will be healthy enough. But I mean I'm

844
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,479
Speaker 2: not promising. I'm just assuming at some point he will.

845
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: Then you help him out again by doing a lot

846
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: of what Michigan did running the ball. I mean, I

847
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: think you give him a chance to get out of

848
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 2: the gate better. Same if your quarterback's the backup quarterback

849
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: and Carson Wentz, I don't care who is out there,

850
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: so I think it would probably start there. I wanted

851
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: to follow up on the quarterback thing, because there's you know, nationally,

852
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: this is what tends to happen. Okay, the Vikings have

853
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: underachieved in the basis of what they did a year

854
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: ago so far, and they have had struggles at the

855
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 2: quarterback position. McCarthy played well and won. Let's remember this

856
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: eight quarters. He's played well in one of them thus far.

857
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: Now it was a big quarter and he won the

858
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: game against the Bears, but he has not looked good early.

859
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: Wentz has looked like probably what we expected, up and down,

860
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: back and forth. I definitely think he was an upgrade

861
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: over I think it was good Sam Howell was going

862
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 2: to be the backup. I think they panicked on that

863
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: and realized we're in trouble if we have to go

864
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: to Sam Howell, so let's kick the tires on Wentz.

865
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 3: And we didn't hope.

866
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: We didn't want to have to use him as quickly

867
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: as we did, but we have him, and so now

868
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: we've got to use him. And I think Wentz, all

869
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: things considered, given how late he arrived and what was

870
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: around him offensively and quite frankly defensively, I think you

871
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: got out of him about what you could expect, and

872
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: certainly not good enough to say, well, we're going to

873
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 2: keep Carson Wentz in even when JJ McCarthy gets healthy.

874
00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: We all agree on that, but it's not a Rubik's

875
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: cube here. Why nationally people are going aw, wait a minute, now,

876
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: let me see. Let's think about the Vikings quarterback situation

877
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: they had last year Sam Darnold, who was great until

878
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: he wasn't and they let him walk. They probably didn't

879
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 2: want to sign him a long term deal. They could

880
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 2: have franchised him, which would have been expensive for the year,

881
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: but not as much love as a long term situation,

882
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: but chose not to.

883
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 3: How's he doing in Seattle?

884
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 2: Well, it's not the playoffs, because I know he played

885
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 2: badly in the playoff game, but there's no playoffs right now.

886
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: What he has done is gone to another team and

887
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: performed pretty well for Seattle pretty well to very well.

888
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: Who else they have in that roster, Well, they had

889
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones late. As it turns out, how's he doing well?

890
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: He went to the Colts, won the job and is

891
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: leading a team that probably has been the surprise story

892
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: of the National Football League through the first seven or

893
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: eight games so in the in the the National Knee

894
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: jerk world in which we live, it's not surprising they're

895
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: going to go I think it's uh rex. Ryan has

896
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: basically said, well, they blew it, not keeping Sam. I

897
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: don't know if he even if he says the same

898
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 2: thing about Jones, I assume he acknowledges that financially there

899
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: were some gonna be some challenges if you if you

900
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: try to bring back Sam Darnald. But the the I

901
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 2: guess the moral of the story nationally seems to be man.

902
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 2: They had, they had a lot of options. They had

903
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 2: more options and most teams do. They said no to Darnald.

904
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 2: Maybe they had the right financial thought doing that, but

905
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 2: they said no. They said no to Daniel Jones. Although

906
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 2: they offered him something, they couldn't convince him to stay

907
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 2: because they've decided they were going to anoint JJ as

908
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: the guy, and the guy they went with has been

909
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: health for exactly two games out of the first twenty

910
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: four in his career. Two out of twenty four. We're

911
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: really going to be surprised that people are nationally and go, well,

912
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 2: that what about I haven't gotten to Aaron Rodgers yet.

913
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: It's only natural that people are going to go down

914
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: those roads when there were alternatives. That doesn't mean McCarthy's

915
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 2: a failure. It doesn't mean McCarthy still can't be the answer.

916
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: But these analysts live in the world of now, and

917
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: the world of now is it doesn't look very good

918
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 2: right now. And I said this going back late in

919
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 2: the summer. If JJ McCarthy is progressing and playing, is

920
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: available and progressing, no one's going to care all that

921
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: much or as much about what Darnold is doing, what Jonesy,

922
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: Danny Dimes is doing, or even what your guy A

923
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: Rodge is doing, right, because again the Vikings played foot

924
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: seat with a Rodge and ultimately decided it's just not

925
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: going to work.

926
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 3: It's not a match.

927
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: He wanted to come here, there's no question about that,

928
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: and he too has played creditably. Now he might get

929
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 2: exposed tonight, we'll see, although you're telling me or Packers

930
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 2: defense might not be good enough to expose him.

931
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 4: Correct, Well, you're you're not confident. No, I'm not confident

932
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 4: at all time.

933
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: So again, it's it's not surprising to me that in

934
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 2: that environment there's gonna be more talk about who they

935
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 2: didn't choose. All that goes away. If McCarthy is playing

936
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: and cruising or progressing. But when he's not, we're going

937
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: to be surprised that there's going to be conversation about well, god,

938
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: they actually had let me see, now, they went fourteen

939
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: to three. They spent a bucket load of money, making

940
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: it seem like they still think they're close. Now again,

941
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 2: some of that money could not have been spent obviously

942
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: if you keep Darnold. I think some of it could

943
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 2: have been spent, not all of it if you keep

944
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: Danny Dimes.

945
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 6: But the.

946
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 3: People are going to kind of scratch their head and go, eh, that's.

947
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: They should have waited on JJ. They should have made

948
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: if necessary JJ wait another year. That's not surprising. All

949
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 2: that stuff. We've said this about every trade, right, all

950
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 2: that stuff goes away or much of it goes away

951
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: if the player you got back in that trade is

952
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: also doing well. It's when the guy you trade away

953
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: does great and the guy you get back does nothing

954
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: that there's going to be more conversation about it, whether

955
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 2: it's trade injury, whatever the case may be.

956
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 4: Would you even throw Kirk Cousins into that mix? Well, yeah,

957
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 4: I guess is he starting today?

958
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 3: Is that true? I think so because I think Penix

959
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 3: is out of the trade, realize hadn't arrived yet.

960
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 4: Well, if they just would have give him any more

961
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 4: than a one year, you know, year to your basis,

962
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 4: because it seems like, yeah, the money was a big

963
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 4: part of it, but he also wanted the year.

964
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: See, I don't want to be a fraud on Kirkus.

965
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: I did not want to spend any more money on him.

966
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 2: I was ready to get past.

967
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: Look at up. I'm the guy who.

968
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: Said when the rumors were a while ago, Cleveland was

969
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 2: interested in Cousins. I And that's when they still had

970
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: who's the Tampa Bay quarterback now, Baker? They still had

971
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 2: Baker and they were done with him. They didn't want

972
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: anything to do with him. I said, I would give

973
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: me Baker. I want out from Cousins contract. I'd send

974
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: that if we can get Baker Mayfield. I'll take my

975
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: chances on either finding out that Baker Mayfield still has

976
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: some ball in him, or you just bite the bullet

977
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: with him for a year and if he's awful, then

978
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 2: you move on with the rest of your life and

979
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: you're out from under the Kirk Cousins deal. How'd that

980
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 2: work out well for Tampa Bay? It worked out very

981
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: very well.

982
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 3: Sunday sermon trought you by j cr Rufin.

983
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: Happy seventy fifth birthday to our guy, Chuck Foreman. How

984
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: about that seventy five years old born October twenty sixth,

985
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty one of the greatest Vikings running backs of

986
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 2: all time, quite possibly the best pass catching running back

987
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: in Minnesota Vikings history. Big friend of this program as well.

988
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: Hope Chuck is enjoying his his birthday today. The kids

989
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: can look up his highlights among his nicknames, the spin Doctor,

990
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: referring to one of his patented moves, started in three

991
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 2: Super Bowls for the Purple was really their main running

992
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: back through much of the seventies. NFL Offensive Rookie of

993
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: the Year in seventy three, he was a Pro Bowler,

994
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: and that was back when Pro Bowl meant I think

995
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: a little bit more. For the first five seasons of

996
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: his career, first team All Pro twice, second Team All

997
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: Pro twice as well, and again he was part of

998
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: ushering in kind of a new age offense at the

999
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: time that kind of felt that a short pass was

1000
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: as good as a run. And because he was such

1001
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: a versatile pass catcher in addition to being a very

1002
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: good runner that became part of the personality of many

1003
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: of those Jerry Burns offensively run football teams. Named one

1004
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: of the fifty Greatest Vikings in twenty ten as well,

1005
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: and I think he's up again for the Pro Football

1006
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: Hall Fame the senior class. I think he's got another

1007
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: shot there as well, So we hope he's doing well.

1008
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: Play for the Vikings from seventy three to seventy nine

1009
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: and then was with the New England Patriots in nineteen eighty.

1010
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 2: He is not surprisingly in the Minnesota Vikings Ring of Honor.

1011
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: First round pick in seventy three, he was picked number

1012
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 2: twelve overall, finished with three hundred and fifty he rushed

1013
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: for almost six thousand yards. But what set him apart,

1014
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: I think largely again was his versatility. Three hundred and

1015
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: fifty receptions for three one hundred and fifty six yards

1016
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 2: that included twenty three receiving touchdowns as well.

1017
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 3: So we wish.

1018
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 2: Nothing but the best continued good health for our guy

1019
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 2: Chuck Forman, who we should probably try to have on

1020
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: here fairly soon as as well. So we'll try to

1021
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: put something in here that's a little more positive.

1022
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: Going back into the Viking history. So what do we

1023
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 3: got today. We've got the Bears.

1024
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: Bears get the horseshoe because they're playing the Lamar Jackson

1025
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: less Ravens. And there was a weird there was some

1026
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: weird confusion late in the week that it appeared that

1027
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: Jackson was going to play because he practiced, and then

1028
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 2: they sent out another release saying he really wasn't practicing

1029
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: in the in the conventional sense, and he's not going

1030
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: to play. And you know how this is setting up

1031
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 2: the Vikings have the Ravens in a few weeks, he'll

1032
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 2: be ready, he'll be back.

1033
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: Now.

1034
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: The only thing you can hope for is that maybe

1035
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 2: if the Ravens are so buried, because I think the

1036
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: Ravens only have one victory one five, that they might

1037
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 2: be so buried that it doesn't matter at that point.

1038
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: Maybe they even sit Jackson more to be sure he's healthy.

1039
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,959
Speaker 2: But the Bears get a massive I think that game's

1040
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: in Baltimore too, a massive break. And then your club tonight,

1041
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 2: right where is that game? Ted Pittsburgh, Green pitt So

1042
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: the obviously, the I mean the story angles are are

1043
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 2: made for themselves. I mean they're made for primetime TV.

1044
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: A Rodge against his old team, the Steelers. Don't I

1045
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: think blow anybody away this year, but they have a

1046
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: good record. He has been he might have had his

1047
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: best get And I did throw a couple of picks.

1048
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 3: In the was it the Bengal? What was the game

1049
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 3: they just lost? Was the Bangals?

1050
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: Yep, but that was the the Battle of the Geezers game.

1051
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: And but I thought he looked great through much of

1052
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 2: that game. Now, one of those picks was not good.

1053
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: But you know, somebody had texted that, Dan, were you

1054
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,439
Speaker 2: in favor of going with Darnel Jones or Rogers prior

1055
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: to the start of the season.

1056
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 3: That's from Kyle. I'm on record as saying that I.

1057
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 2: Wanted to try the Aaron Rodgers experiment, and I admitted

1058
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 2: that it could blow up. I didn't even deny that

1059
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 2: it was a risk, because there were times last year

1060
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 2: when Rogers did not He kind of looked finished. But

1061
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: I said, maybe I root for the story too much.

1062
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 2: I just thought it would have been such a delicious

1063
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: storyline here and that there's just a chance that it

1064
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: could be a stroke of genius, just a chance, And

1065
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 2: based on what we've seen of him with the Steelers,

1066
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 2: I think we have more reason to believe that now.

1067
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: I will add the Steelers have been really smart about

1068
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 2: running the ball though, And I don't know.

1069
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 3: If you know Koc would be able to resist. I

1070
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 3: got a rodge. See I can cook up in my laboratory.

1071
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 3: Let's go at it.

1072
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 2: But I was on record as saying I was willing

1073
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 2: to hold off on the h there's no people get

1074
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 2: weird about obligate with we owe it to the kid

1075
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 2: to play.

1076
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 3: You don't know o the kid anything.

1077
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 2: You drafted him, and you can even say your best

1078
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: laid plan was we're going to play you. But it's

1079
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 2: not your fault that he was not available at all

1080
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: last year, so you can adjust. It's not your fault

1081
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: that you went fourteen and three last year. Where you go, well,

1082
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 2: maybe we can be better or stay better. And we thought,

1083
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna take one shot at this.

1084
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: And if McCarthy has to sit another year, he's got

1085
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 2: to sit another year, where's he going not going anywhere?

1086
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 2: It certainly happened in Green Bay, where they sat forever,

1087
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, I went. I mean, you could argue looking

1088
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: at it now that the in between move was the

1089
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: best possibility in Daniel Jones, and I wasn't clamoring for that.

1090
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: I'll admit I was more interested in Rogers, but I

1091
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 2: will say part of the rub is when you most teams,

1092
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: when they draft a quarterback that high, they're not going

1093
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 2: to make him fight for the position. So as long

1094
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: as that's the case, I think Jones knew that and

1095
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 2: that's why he wasn't going to stay. Eve though the

1096
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,479
Speaker 2: Vikings did make a good offer for him at fifteen MIL.

1097
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 2: We'll never know whether he would have been given a

1098
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: chance to win the job in training camp. I have

1099
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: no idea, but.

1100
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 4: I still think Rogers would have in a good in

1101
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 4: between moves because I agree he said this is pretty

1102
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 4: much it right, Yes, that's it's more than likely going

1103
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 4: to be it.

1104
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 3: So it would have been one year.

1105
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: Jat he wanted to be here none, There's zero doubt.

1106
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: People think that was manufactured by the Jackals who cover

1107
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 2: this team daily. You're wrong, as Glenn mas Won say,

1108
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 2: you're wrong. They they definitely talk. Now ultimately the Vikings.

1109
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 2: This was to me much more Vikings decision than a

1110
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 2: Rodgers decision. If you're Aaron Rodgers, where.

1111
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 3: Do you want to be?

1112
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 6: You want to be here.

1113
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 3: Throwing the ball to Justin Jefferson. Are you kidding me?

1114
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 2: Come on now again, the line's been a mess. Would

1115
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 2: he be a mess as a result, I don't know,

1116
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 2: But I also do know. The one thing he does

1117
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: has done this year as well as he's done in

1118
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 2: a long time. Hell it happened against the Vikings defense.

1119
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 2: Is he's thrown fast. He's getting rid of the ball

1120
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 2: super quick, even by his own standards, and he's always

1121
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 2: been good at that.

1122
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 4: And so that vaunted Micah Parsons for Shuan Gary pass

1123
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 4: rush means basically nothing today, which thinks. But I am

1124
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 4: more than happy that he did not wear purple. That

1125
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 4: would have made me.

1126
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that I saw it was hard enough on you.

1127
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah that was bad.

1128
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 4: Thankfully I was little enough to where it wasn't too

1129
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 4: too bad. But yeah, all right, one more break. We'll

1130
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 4: come back and maybe talk a little bit of Wolves.

1131
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 4: They're back in their home opener is later this evening.

1132
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 4: A couple of early thoughts on them after a rather

1133
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 4: disastrous game against the Lakers on National TV Friday night,

1134
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 4: and maybe some more football of both Vikings and Gophers.

1135
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 3: Conversation. The rest of the way stays.

1136
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 6: Dan the g.

1137
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: Man from Arizona. Too nice. That's what the whole media

1138
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: is KOs. When are we gonna call him out for

1139
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:09,919
Speaker 1: his horrible play calling, his input on the roster. He's

1140
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: gotten a pass for way too long. It's time we

1141
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: held his feet to the fire and get this thing going.

1142
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 6: And right direction. Morton Brett more than Dan he took

1143
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 6: from the range. Been alive for all four Viking super Bowls.

1144
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 6: Remember watching three of them fifty some years later. Haven't

1145
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 6: been back. I've got confidence in the staff, I've got

1146
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 6: full confidence in the ownership. Let's enjoy the ride. Let's

1147
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 6: not worry about winning the super Bowl. Before the first

1148
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 6: preseason snap occurs.

1149
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 3: Scoll, I'm not sure what to make of the second one.

1150
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: He certainly has been around the block, so I think

1151
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: he's maybe saying, you know, I'm mist I'm staying the course,

1152
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: which is great. I don't think anybody is demanding. Look,

1153
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: we all understand the curves we great on here. I

1154
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: don't think anybody's demanding super Bowl exactly. We're just not seeing,

1155
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 2: you know, the It's it's easy to get hung up

1156
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 2: on the way A lot of folks have that. Well,

1157
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: we haven't had either of our offensive tackles the whole season,

1158
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: which is false, by the way, right now we're in

1159
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: that position. This last game we ended up being in

1160
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 2: that position. But it's not been the case. We're not

1161
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: the only team that loses key offensive linemen during a season.

1162
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 2: But let's say you want to accept that argument and

1163
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 2: that excuse to explain a lot of the offensive struggles

1164
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 2: and inconsistencies. How do we explain getting obliterated at the

1165
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 2: defensive line front along the defensive line front, you can't.

1166
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: In the case of the the the Vikings. It's to

1167
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 2: me the most disturbing trend is at varying times where

1168
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: being the secondary get gashed for huge chunk plays and

1169
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 2: in other times you are seeing the offensive line get obliterated,

1170
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 2: or should say, the defensive line get obliterated in terms

1171
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 2: of the run game. And I don't know, there's some

1172
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 2: people think maybe the league is caught up to what

1173
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 2: bflow is cooking up. I think in some cases it's

1174
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 2: personnel not doing as well as was projected. We spent

1175
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: a lot of money in the interior part of our

1176
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 2: defensive line, and we don't have very much to show

1177
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 2: for it at all. That's sort of the double whammy,

1178
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: you know, because somebody had texted the Vikings didn't sign

1179
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 2: Darnold to have a bunch of money spent on free agents.

1180
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 2: The problem is most of those signings are a total miss.

1181
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 2: Would have preferred Danny Dimes anyway. Yet right now it's

1182
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 2: the worst of both worlds because you don't have.

1183
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 3: A Let's put it this.

1184
01:09:54,800 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: Way, if you had been able to sign for whatever

1185
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: reason that no one else wanted Daniel Jones, if you

1186
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:10,799
Speaker 2: were able to sign him as your backup to JJ McCarthy,

1187
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 2: I think we'll all agree you're going to be in

1188
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 2: a much better position potentially than you were with Carson

1189
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: Wentz as your backup. Again, you could say that's an

1190
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 2: easy second to guess now. But to his point, it's

1191
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 2: been the worst of both worlds in that we did

1192
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 2: not give ourselves some better options. We did not go

1193
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers way.

1194
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 3: And if your.

1195
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 2: Comeback is but yeah, then we couldn't have spent all

1196
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 2: this money elsewhere. The money does not look well spent

1197
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: right now. Of the four linemen we signed, basically, one

1198
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: looks legit, the other three not so much. Won the

1199
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 2: center due to injury and the concussions obviously, but he's

1200
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 2: not available either, So that's what makes it unfortunate in

1201
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: that Yeah, okay, well then yeah you want Donald when

1202
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 2: you can't sign all these other players, But not enough

1203
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 2: of those players to this point at least have looked

1204
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 2: up to the part about what they were expected to

1205
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:21,799
Speaker 2: bring to you could say to the organization. Another item

1206
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: regarding the Gophers, it's a good stat that Randy Johnson

1207
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 2: has via startibute dot com, and it's what should be inexcusable,

1208
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 2: regardless of the week to week ups and downs, the

1209
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 2: way things can change. Four possessions. Through four possessions, the

1210
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:50,759
Speaker 2: Gophers had one yard total offense. Iowa had already scored

1211
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: thirty one points. I mean, that's just not acceptable. Now

1212
01:11:55,439 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 2: your quarterback, who's been very promising, obviously has the big arm,

1213
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: had his worst game. Drake Lindsay was off made a

1214
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 2: number of ill advised passes. Throwing deep to a tight

1215
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 2: end makes no sense whatsoever to expect a tight end

1216
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: big lumbering lummocks of a guy who is going to

1217
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 2: adjust on the ball on the sidelines. But they got

1218
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: and they got nothing from the ground game. Taylor I

1219
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: think ran once and left, So I don't know if

1220
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: it's an old injury that has recurred. If it was

1221
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 2: something else, it's been very mysterious. I don't know that

1222
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: we've had an explanation on why he sat. The head

1223
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:40,759
Speaker 2: coaches said nothing about it. Three interceptions for for Lindsey,

1224
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 2: and I certainly think there's every reason to think he

1225
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 2: can be a good player all a quarterback, although I

1226
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 2: thought analyst guy on TV made the point that needs

1227
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 2: to be factored in here.

1228
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 3: He does not look he's a quarterback.

1229
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 2: He's a pocket thrower who needs the pocket, doesn't throw

1230
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: particularly great on the run, and that's something you got

1231
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 2: to hope he can get a little bit better about.

1232
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 2: He's going to certainly have time to do it because

1233
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 2: they're going to continue to invest in him. That's the

1234
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: beauty of him being as young as he is, as

1235
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 2: long as the the Gophers are able to keep him.

1236
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 2: But there is some similarity to Linus Scrimmage conversation.

1237
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:21,839
Speaker 3: In both of these.

1238
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 2: Lost weekend blowouts thirty seven to ten in La Vikings

1239
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 2: to the Chargers forty one to three in Iowa City

1240
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 2: Gophers to the Iowah Hawkeyes. Linus Scrimmage was a mismatch.

1241
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 2: The Gopher offensive line did not do a particularly good

1242
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 2: job protecting. Gopher defensive line got nothing going against an

1243
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: Iowa team that might be a little better offensively than

1244
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: it's been, but still as largely, you know, they made

1245
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 2: some plays throwing the ball. I'm pretty sure sure they

1246
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 2: threw the ball once, and I think this must have

1247
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: shocked the Minnesota defensive people on a second and two,

1248
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: I mean second and two, Iowa throwing that's not supposed

1249
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 2: to happen. I didn't feel like we were ready for

1250
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 2: their wrinkles. We assumed it was on the QB. All

1251
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 2: he does is run and they're not going to try

1252
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 2: very much downfield, and we don't really have to worry

1253
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 2: about that that sort of activity because it's Iowa. Well,

1254
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 2: they had a good plan that we were clearly not

1255
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 2: prepared for either. But again, Lione scrimmage stuff is so important.

1256
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 2: Vikings defensive line got as I said, killed Gopher's defensive line.

1257
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 2: Mismatch there as well, and the Iowa front offensive line

1258
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 2: is considered once again to be one of the best.

1259
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 2: It probably is, and maybe Iowa was gonna end up

1260
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 2: being more of a factor the rest of the way

1261
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: than we give them credit for, because we always did

1262
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 2: count them as being so limited offensively. But I'm sure

1263
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 2: there have been worst weekends involving the Gophers and Vikings,

1264
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 2: but I think it's been a while regarding with these

1265
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 2: kinds of blowout games where you're not even competitive. We

1266
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 2: were really not in either ball game, not that I

1267
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 2: saw in any case. A couple of texts have come

1268
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 2: in here late. Oh well quickly on the Wolves. I

1269
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: you know, they were awful defensively. Well, here's what's funny.

1270
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,799
Speaker 2: Game starts and the Wolves are having their way offensively early,

1271
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 2: and the talk around the campfire was, well, a little

1272
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 2: less pushback than the Portland defense was given. This is

1273
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 2: the Wolves might end up with one hundred and seventy

1274
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 2: five points. Well, what ultimately ended up happening, though it

1275
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 2: was the Wolves offense a defense I should say that

1276
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 2: looked even more casual, and Luca, Skinny Luca, had his

1277
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 2: way with the club. Even with Lebron out, they had

1278
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 2: no answer for Skinny Luca at all. And defensively, it

1279
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 2: was a really really wretched performance, you know, very early.

1280
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,959
Speaker 2: A little troubling given that they all made this statement

1281
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 2: about how we have to get back to the defense

1282
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 2: that we played a couple of years ago. I didn't

1283
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 2: see much of that Friday night. Now, the big story

1284
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 2: tonight what the Pacer game is We're going to unveil

1285
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 2: our new lighting.

1286
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 3: That's the deal.

1287
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 2: We got some new I don't know if we're going

1288
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 2: to try to go Lakers on the Staples Center, Lakers

1289
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 2: on the bit where what they do is it's almost

1290
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 2: like a stage setting where everything's really dark except for

1291
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 2: the court. Right, that's what you know. I covered endless

1292
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 2: number of games at the old Forum in Englewood, and

1293
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 2: that was their bit going on the back there was

1294
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 2: you got darkness everywhere but on the court. That was

1295
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 2: the the presentation that they preferred. And apparently we are

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Speaker 2: going to do that as well. Are something similar to that.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if it's the same or But that's that's

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Speaker 2: all the talk is lighting. We're going to dazzle people

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Speaker 2: with the lighting.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 3: The beauty of it.

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Speaker 2: Is, I think, as I understand it, is if the

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Speaker 2: if the Wolves play as badly defensively today as they

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Speaker 2: did against the Lakers, at some point they'll just turn

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Speaker 2: the lights off completely so you won't have to look

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Speaker 2: at him. That the beauty of these news, the versatility

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Speaker 2: of these new lights is they can turn on.

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Speaker 3: And off on a dime, which used to be. By

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Speaker 3: the way, one of the.

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Speaker 2: Pet peeves of the late Great Flip Saunders was he

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Speaker 2: was very bothered that we didn't the lighting set up

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Speaker 2: at Target Center. I don't know if it was a

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Speaker 2: technological issue or was something else. We couldn't just flip

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Speaker 2: the things on and off the way other teams did

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Speaker 2: because the Big Flip was a big pregame presentation kind

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Speaker 2: of a guy, right, That was a big part of

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Speaker 2: what he was up to, and eventually they finally got

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Speaker 2: taken care of. It is also worth noting on a

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Speaker 2: sad note, and this is stunning for me to believe

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Speaker 2: it has been this long. Ten years ago yesterday Flip

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Speaker 2: died ten years It's been ten years since he's been gone,

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Speaker 2: which is just astonishing to me that it's been that long.

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Speaker 2: Huge name here, of course the classic case of not

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Speaker 2: being one of us, but he kind of was grandfathered

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Speaker 2: in as one of us. Very few are in that classification,

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Speaker 2: but Flip obviously is one of them, there's no question

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Speaker 2: about that. And this he became Minnesota great friend of

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Speaker 2: the program. I still miss him terribly and like I said,

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it's been ten years ago since he

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Speaker 2: passed away.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that stunning?

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Speaker 4: Very few people have been adopted as one of us

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Speaker 4: after you would know.

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Speaker 2: I would know because I ain't one of them as

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Speaker 2: for sure, and I'm fine with that. I can live

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Speaker 2: with that. I have no difficulty with that. But there

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Speaker 2: was nothing like the out of nowhere Flip Saunders calling

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Speaker 2: in to give me crap or to make a point

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Speaker 2: about something. And of course he was in our studios

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Speaker 2: time and time and time again.

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Speaker 3: So I'm assuming.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of Vikings programming, I should say

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Speaker 2: NFL programming the rest of well, no, we can't do

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Speaker 2: the rest of the day because we got missed it

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Speaker 2: a while.

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Speaker 3: Hockey. What time is the wild Game? I's at five,

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Speaker 3: that's a five the Wolves. We'll be on the Timberwolves channel.

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Speaker 2: Azed so correct against the injury riddle the Pacers, but beware,

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Speaker 2: we've tended to play down to the Pacers when they've

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Speaker 2: been hurt had injuries before.

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Speaker 4: So here's what I've got for the day. So it

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Speaker 4: is NFL Giants Philly, Dallas, Denver. Then we'll cut to

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Speaker 4: Wild Game here on the fan. Nice Timberwolves on the

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Speaker 4: iHeart app on the Timberwlves channel, and then join in

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Speaker 4: progress the big game Packers, Steelers after the wild game.

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Speaker 2: That's huge, it's big time, that's massive. Are the Lions

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Speaker 2: playing today, No, they're on By. They're on By, that's right.

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Speaker 2: And then so their next game is our next game,

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Speaker 2: not yours ours.

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Speaker 3: Vikings.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a noon start a week from today,

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Speaker 2: Vikings in Detroit. Man's that's that's gonna be a rude

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Speaker 2: awakening for the kid if he's healthy enough to go.

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Speaker 2: But you got to throw him into the deep end

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Speaker 2: at some point, right I'm still I'm still wondering whether

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Speaker 2: we'll actually be healthy enough to play. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: I'll believe JJ is ready to play when I see

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Speaker 2: him out on the court or on the field, whatever

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Speaker 2: the case may be. Thank you very much for listening today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for watching today. Good weather. I think h

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Speaker 2: I have like sixty two beautiful day to get out,

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Speaker 2: no Vikings to mess with, So perhaps a number of

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Speaker 2: our faithful listeners will do exactly that. Guards you back tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Bumper to Bumper will start at three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk then