Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American rings All the highest
Speaker 1: re wect should cry out trick or treating to night.
Speaker 2: We are good for the little ones, and also for
Speaker 2: moms and dads who don't need the extra sugar but
Speaker 2: will gladly partake in stealing. It's called the dad text
Speaker 2: and taking the Snickers and the reeses and checking them
Speaker 2: for razor blades, which isn't a real thing.
Speaker 1: We made that up in order to screw kids over.
Speaker 2: I need to check that looks like there's a needle
Speaker 2: in it, and then you eat the Snickers. No, I
Speaker 2: guess there was need there, because kids are stupid and
Speaker 2: we need to take advantage of them adults. Also, with
Speaker 2: Halloween being today, tis the season to talk about ghosts
Speaker 2: and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Why not.
Speaker 2: I'm in the holiday spirit myself. And the thing with
Speaker 2: ghost is, man, this is why you got to live
Speaker 2: a really clean or a fairly clean mortal life is
Speaker 2: because you don't want to screw this up and become
Speaker 2: a ghost. Cause when you're walking around with chains on
Speaker 2: and you're going and visiting Scrooge in the middle of
Speaker 2: the night, you don't get any rest.
Speaker 1: He doesn't get any rest. It's a bad.
Speaker 3: Look.
Speaker 2: It's optics are bad for everybody. It's a real pain
Speaker 2: of the ass to screw up your life. Or we
Speaker 2: gotta be a ghost? Echo Bowtines on the show this
Speaker 2: morning on seven hundred ww A real life ghosts and
Speaker 2: will teach you how not to become a ghost in
Speaker 2: a trap soul. I don't think I've ever had this
Speaker 2: subject matter before my show before, but I this is
Speaker 2: the kind of stuff I really like to talk about.
Speaker 1: E Go, good morning, how are you?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, good morning. I gotta go have about
Speaker 3: sixteen cups of coffee catch up to you.
Speaker 2: Well, smoke, it just comes out, It just comes out.
Speaker 2: But I yeah, I'm busy, and when I die, I
Speaker 2: won't be as busy anymore. But when I die, I
Speaker 2: don't want to be a I don't want to be
Speaker 2: bothering people in the afterlife. I bother people enough now,
Speaker 2: you know. I'll be tired. Then I just want to
Speaker 2: I want to rest. How do I how do I
Speaker 2: not become a ghost and bother people?
Speaker 3: Oh god, you're a riot. Okay, let's see now. Cool,
Speaker 3: here's what you do? You take care of business while
Speaker 3: you're here on earth? There? Okay, So the book which
Speaker 3: is called How to Live a Happily ever After Life,
Speaker 3: is about the six main reasons that we have discovered.
Speaker 3: Word why ghosts choose to be ghosts. I mean when
Speaker 3: we do a ghostbusting job, and I say we because
Speaker 3: I'm talking about my brother Michael and I. We always
Speaker 3: ask these souls what well, we always ask them, what's
Speaker 3: your name? And why are you here? Okay?
Speaker 1: And that's got you know, it's unfinished business.
Speaker 2: That's what you're saying, is like I got something I
Speaker 2: gotta okay, and I think I kind of know that, right.
Speaker 1: That's what ghosts do. They hang around. They annoy you
Speaker 1: because that's what ghosts do.
Speaker 2: They're looking for some closure and you got how does
Speaker 2: a ghost get closure?
Speaker 3: Oh? God? Wow? You have to work on your beliefs
Speaker 3: about death before you die, because you know it's got
Speaker 3: Some of these souls they don't They don't believe in
Speaker 3: life after death. So when they die, when their soul
Speaker 3: comes out of their body, they don't know what to do.
Speaker 3: They they don't understand what's going on. They don't understand
Speaker 3: why angels are showing up saying, hey, come on with us,
Speaker 3: we'll take you to the other side. It's it's really
Speaker 3: kind of sad. Yeah, I'm thinking about teenage souls that
Speaker 3: I've met that say when we say why are you here,
Speaker 3: why don't you go to the other side. Oh, it's
Speaker 3: going to be really boring. I'm going to get angel
Speaker 3: wings and then I'm just going to have to be
Speaker 3: serious and me an angel it's like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: Or another reason is people will say, well, my ex
Speaker 3: wife is over there and I hate her, or my
Speaker 3: ex cousin or my parents, or that they don't somebody
Speaker 3: they don't want to run into is on the other side,
Speaker 3: and so they think if they go there, they're going
Speaker 3: to run into them right away. I mean, you know
Speaker 3: what's got It's more like ghost counseling than ghost busting.
Speaker 2: Oh, Heaven's kind of a big place, isn't there room.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're not going to be on top of these.
Speaker 2: If there's a jerk, you just avoid them, you know,
Speaker 2: you pick a different cloud.
Speaker 3: I know, honey. But see, that's the point is people
Speaker 3: don't think about it. They you know, hear from other
Speaker 3: people what they believe about life after death, and so
Speaker 3: they think, okay, well, as soon as I get to
Speaker 3: have an I'm on a run. Into Susie and this
Speaker 3: one ghost that I met. She said that her boyfriend
Speaker 3: killed her and then he committed suicide. And she said,
Speaker 3: I don't want to go anywhere where he is. And
Speaker 3: I said to her, Sherry, heaven is a really big place,
Speaker 3: and I said, chances of you running into this guy?
Speaker 3: I said, you know, when you get there, you can
Speaker 3: tell people you don't want to see this guy, you
Speaker 3: don't want to talk to this guy. And it's so
Speaker 3: interesting to watch their expressions because they're like, oh, I
Speaker 3: never thought about that, isn't there heaven.
Speaker 2: There's got to be some police for I mean, you
Speaker 2: get a restraining order and there are like a dead
Speaker 2: judge that can.
Speaker 3: Do that, you know, Scott, I've never given that any thought.
Speaker 2: Sure, there's got to be some sort of legal recourse
Speaker 2: in heaven. You know, it's not just a free for
Speaker 2: all do whatever you want. There's got to be some rules.
Speaker 2: And if there's rules, there's got to be authority to
Speaker 2: enforce the rules. So I don't know, if you go
Speaker 2: to God or whatever you could, he's like the Supreme
Speaker 2: Court and then the Apostle everybody else below him. Those
Speaker 2: are like your appellate courts and down away.
Speaker 3: I think you should write a book. I think you
Speaker 3: should write a book on this, because you just said
Speaker 3: things to me that I've never even thought about it.
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't know how to read anyway.
Speaker 2: It's Echo Bodine on the show this morning on seven
Speaker 2: hundred Wow, how to be a live, a happily ever
Speaker 2: after life, stories of trapped souls on to become basically
Speaker 2: not how to be how to not become a ghost
Speaker 2: out there bothering people, Dragon Change.
Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of work being a ghost
Speaker 1: haunting people, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yes, it can be. I mean, but you know, okay,
Speaker 3: so some of them they just start making the noises
Speaker 3: and playing with the lights and the computers and tea
Speaker 3: these because they're bored, right and they want some attention.
Speaker 3: Others are kind of jerk when they were living, and
Speaker 3: so they're they're loving this here.
Speaker 1: You're an a hole in life, You're an a hole
Speaker 1: in death? Perfect Yeah, yes, yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so it really is, you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: we all end up there, and it's a good idea
Speaker 3: to give us some thought before you go. Because I
Speaker 3: have seen souls who when they come out of their body,
Speaker 3: they're just like I don't know what to do. I
Speaker 3: don't know, you know what the number one reason is,
Speaker 3: these souls tell us they are afraid if they go
Speaker 3: to heaven they're going to get sent to hell.
Speaker 2: Oh oh okay, yeah, well it's like it's kind of
Speaker 2: like fomo, right is it?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, i'd really like to go if it's
Speaker 2: everything they promise, but I gotta feel I'm gonna go there,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna apply, I'm gonna sit there, I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: all the fill off the paperwork, and then I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get bounced. And I don't some as well. Purgatory is
Speaker 2: not so bad just hanging around being a ghost.
Speaker 3: This isn't so bad, Okay, Scott, Really, I promise you
Speaker 3: don't have to still all paperwork when you get there.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Everything's a bureaucracy, but I couldn't disagree with anymore. I
Speaker 2: guarantee there's paperwork you. Yeah, well, you got a brand
Speaker 2: a ID. It's a real thing. Waiting in lines. Tell
Speaker 2: me there's no line to get in the header. It's
Speaker 2: got to be a line.
Speaker 3: I mean, Heaven is huge. It's like saying there's gonna
Speaker 3: be a line. To get to earth. No is there.
Speaker 3: It's all over the place.
Speaker 1: Somebody's checking you in. Right. It's not a new business models.
Speaker 2: It's not like, oh, we've got an app and you
Speaker 2: do all your check in on timing.
Speaker 1: I don't care. This is old school. I gotta go
Speaker 1: wait in a lot.
Speaker 2: I talk to a guy and then he's late because
Speaker 2: he's on his break, and then I'm waiting for somebody
Speaker 2: else and it's not you know, AI isn't going to
Speaker 2: solve this thing.
Speaker 1: I gotta I'm still right.
Speaker 2: Literally, I got a pen and a clipboard in the
Speaker 2: waiting room like a doctor's office, and I'm filling stuff out.
Speaker 1: There's there's a line.
Speaker 3: Believe believe me. It's very organized, very organized. People know
Speaker 3: when you get there. People know ahead of time when
Speaker 3: we're dying, our deceased loved ones and our relatives, they know.
Speaker 3: Oftentimes they're there waiting for us, or oftentimes when we
Speaker 3: are in our dying process, they are here with us
Speaker 3: on this side, so that when our soul comes out
Speaker 3: of the body, Oh there's mom, there's Dad, there's Grandpa,
Speaker 3: there's grandma. There's my dog Charlie. Yeah. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: a pretty cool system. The way it works.
Speaker 1: How do they know?
Speaker 2: What kind of notification do they get? Did they pop
Speaker 2: up on their phone? I get an email? What happens?
Speaker 2: How they How do they know wh I'm dying? How
Speaker 2: would they know?
Speaker 3: They?
Speaker 4: Okay, so before you pass away, your soul is communicating
Speaker 4: with people on the other side. Okay, your soul knows
Speaker 4: that your death is coming. You're not conscious of it,
Speaker 4: but your soul is communicating with the people on the
Speaker 4: other side. And there are greets had their really nice
Speaker 4: souls that welcome, welcome you home. Really, it's a really
Speaker 4: cool system of welcoming your soul back home.
Speaker 3: Even you know. I was just reading a story last
Speaker 3: night about a lady who committed suicide and she was
Speaker 3: so afraid that she wasn't going to get into heaven.
Speaker 3: And people that commit suicide they go into heaven just
Speaker 3: like everybody does.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a sin. I thought that was
Speaker 1: I thought that was.
Speaker 3: A no go.
Speaker 1: I thought that's a bad one.
Speaker 3: No, that's just religion's perspective. But no, Yeah, the people
Speaker 3: that I've communicated with have all said no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: God doesn't No, God's not like that, that angry, vengeful,
Speaker 3: jealous God, Now that doesn't exist. And if somebody is
Speaker 3: hurting that bad to take their life, of course they're
Speaker 3: welcomed back home. So it's a different system than at
Speaker 3: least what most of us have been.
Speaker 2: Taught, you know, right, Echobodin's on the show this morning,
Speaker 2: how to live a happy, happily ever after life, stories
Speaker 2: of trap soles on to become one basically, not how
Speaker 2: to become a ghost, and that is closing a business
Speaker 2: before you you pass away, making sure that there's no
Speaker 2: loose ends left in your light. And how do you
Speaker 2: convert someone who's well, let me back up a second,
Speaker 2: how the hell do you know all this stuff? What
Speaker 2: makes you an expert on the afterlife? How do you
Speaker 2: know this?
Speaker 3: Is bat I have psychic abilities, and so I have
Speaker 3: been I don't believe me. I have been slowly learning
Speaker 3: about all of this for the last fifty four years,
Speaker 3: and I just have these experiences, you know, when someone passes,
Speaker 3: I'm able to communicate with their soul and they tell
Speaker 3: me about heaven. I've had three friends and the last
Speaker 3: year die that have come back and said, oh my,
Speaker 3: you know this is happening. That's happening. It's been a
Speaker 3: fun and very interesting experience because I've learned things that
Speaker 3: we aren't taught in religion. And that's another reason why
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, I need to write this book
Speaker 3: because people have a lot of misconceptions about death. A
Speaker 3: lot of people are so afraid to die, and there's
Speaker 3: you know what's got It seems like, at least from
Speaker 3: what I've seen and what I've heard from people, it's
Speaker 3: probably the easiest thing we'll ever do, is when we
Speaker 3: finally let go of the body and we just move
Speaker 3: on to the other side. And it is Scott. The
Speaker 3: pictures I've seen of the other side are absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 1: And can you send some to me?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: Would you?
Speaker 2: How do you get the pictures? Are they dead gramm
Speaker 2: or fatal book? Is it like the web? I?
Speaker 3: Oh god, oh my god. No. I have what's called clairvoyance,
Speaker 3: which means that you get visions. I get visions in
Speaker 3: my mind and I communicate with spirit in my mind.
Speaker 3: They think to me, that's how they commun so, honey,
Speaker 3: it's just been a matter of kind of putting together
Speaker 3: a big jeep of saw puzzle of Oh that Oh
Speaker 3: now I understand that picture. Oh now I understand what
Speaker 3: this person meant, yeah, it's been it's been a long journey,
Speaker 3: but very interesting. And the other thing that's coolest I
Speaker 3: just I keep learning, you know. It isn't like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, Scott. I I would not claim to be
Speaker 3: an expert on this stuff. I am just passing on
Speaker 3: what I've learned so far.
Speaker 1: I've talked to other folks like yourself. It's the same thing.
Speaker 2: It's like, it's just you're like a conduit, you know.
Speaker 2: And I think there's some consistency there in the like.
Speaker 2: But okay, So I think the question most people have
Speaker 2: is what is the absolute echo? What is the absolute
Speaker 2: bare minimum bare minimum I need to be able to
Speaker 2: get into heaven? What's like the what is this I
Speaker 2: just need to get It's like passing the class, right,
Speaker 2: All I need to do is get.
Speaker 3: That d Honey, There's no.
Speaker 1: Way I could go.
Speaker 2: Are you saying I could go like murder someone and
Speaker 2: still get into heaven.
Speaker 1: That doesn't seem right.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know it doesn't seem right, but I mean
Speaker 3: that that's going to involve karma. So what you do
Speaker 3: to others, you will experience yourself. It all balances out,
Speaker 3: It all has to balance out. And so what we
Speaker 3: it's the golden rule of what we do unto others
Speaker 3: comes back onto us.
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's no there's no Hell. Then we got
Speaker 1: that wrong.
Speaker 3: The angels have told me there is no such place
Speaker 3: as hell because God would never create a place like that.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't mean that we all get to be
Speaker 3: terrible people and then go on to the other side
Speaker 3: because we bring we bring that guilt with us, we
Speaker 3: bring that shame that.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: I've seen some souls who and that's what I mean
Speaker 3: when I ask these ghosts, Okay, why don't you go
Speaker 3: to the other side? Ye oh God, there's no way.
Speaker 3: There's no way I could. I'm going to get sent
Speaker 3: to Hell for sure. They'll go there and they'll have
Speaker 3: to work through all the crap that they did to people.
Speaker 1: So it's like you go, it's like the minor leagues Heaven.
Speaker 2: Basically you sent down a like low A, and then
Speaker 2: you work on your game until you build up, maybe
Speaker 2: you get promoted to Triple A and eventually make the
Speaker 2: big league Heaven club.
Speaker 1: Kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, there are different levels I've seen
Speaker 3: that also different levels in heaven, and so you know,
Speaker 3: if you're murdering people. You are, boy, you're at the
Speaker 3: bottom of the wrong I mean, you're in heaven. But
Speaker 3: you know what, Scott, it's kind of like people that
Speaker 3: commit these kind of crimes against other people or animals,
Speaker 3: they take all that guilt with them and they have
Speaker 3: to work it out some way. So yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: What's that part of having called where it's like the
Speaker 2: low end lo the you know, the the wrong side
Speaker 2: is what do you call this?
Speaker 1: Is it called Pittsburgh there too?
Speaker 3: Oh? There you go. No, it's just when you're there,
Speaker 3: you're kind, you're it's like your certain level. Okay, but
Speaker 3: you know what, we've got it here. I mean, think
Speaker 3: about it. We've got old souls here, young souls here,
Speaker 3: the young souls or the kids and the gangs, people
Speaker 3: that are hurting other people. Then we've got you know,
Speaker 3: older souls and they're the ones trying to help the
Speaker 3: younger souls. And oh yeah, well it really is.
Speaker 2: It is fascinating. We got to talk in depth. Maybe
Speaker 2: some other time. I'd love to have you back.
Speaker 1: Echo.
Speaker 3: Okay, sweet Si, you just let me know.
Speaker 2: Echo Bodine, who is not only clairvoyant but also how
Speaker 2: to live a happily ever after life stories of trapped
Speaker 2: souls and how not to become one with your tips
Speaker 2: to sounds to me like you're pretty golden here just
Speaker 2: by you. It's like, man, I'm just showing up and
Speaker 2: I get into heaven. I don't have to do anything good.
Speaker 2: This is pretty sweet. I gotta get going because I
Speaker 2: got a crime spree.
Speaker 1: To get to.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Okay, you I.
Speaker 1: Got some bake, sir, Rob, I'll see you later.
Speaker 2: Echo, now I get you some twenties. You seem like
Speaker 2: a good kid over there. And first for me, I've
Speaker 2: lived in a city where crime has looked at favorably
Speaker 2: by this administration.
Speaker 1: Guy, you promise that to do it again?
Speaker 2: You're fine, You're fine. We all get to go to
Speaker 2: everyone gets a participation ribbon. Apparently, why are we fighting it?
Speaker 2: Why are we fighting it?
Speaker 1: Great? Uh?
Speaker 2: As a converse I try to have around every year
Speaker 2: at go Bodine, how not to become a ghost simply
Speaker 2: because it's Halloween, And uh, that's kind of ghost story.
Speaker 2: See Italian right there, and they all heavy. If we've
Speaker 2: got lots of serious stuff going on in the world,
Speaker 2: it's Friday morning, and on top of that, it's Halloween.
Speaker 1: Let's just enjoy things, at least for today. Anyway, we'll
Speaker 1: reset back on Monday.
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