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Speaker 2: You know, when I used to do a live radio program,

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Speaker 2: we would call this breaking news. But I think in

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Speaker 2: a podcast nothing can be breaking news, right because anybody's

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Speaker 2: got to hear it long after it was breaking. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: this story has just come down, and I want to

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Speaker 2: comment on a briefly. I don't have the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: I do want to address the story. A Wakashaw County

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Speaker 2: Circuit judge, in a lawsuit that was filed many many

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Speaker 2: months ago today, did rule that the Wisconsin Election Commission

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Speaker 2: must verify the legal citizenship status of all Wisconsin registered voters.

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Speaker 2: That's a big deal. Now, before you go too far

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Speaker 2: on it, though it's a circuit judge, All lawsuits in

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin start in circuit court. Every county has a circuit court.

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Speaker 2: Above the circuit court is the state Court of Appeals.

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Speaker 2: There's several districts to that, and then the state Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: I do not believe that this ruling will stand up

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Speaker 2: on appeal. The reason I don't believe it is I

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Speaker 2: just don't believe that the leftists Wisconsin Supreme Court will

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Speaker 2: not overturn it. I don't believe that the Wisconsin Supreme Court,

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Speaker 2: controlled by leftists, is going to do what is ever

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Speaker 2: in the political interests of the Democrats. They've made that clear. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: in the short term, this is a victory. The ruling

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Speaker 2: by Judge Maxwell does state that before the next election,

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Speaker 2: which would be the spring primary February eighteenth, the Wisconsin

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Speaker 2: Election Commission has to verify citizenship. Doesn't say how they

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Speaker 2: have to do it, but they have to do it.

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Speaker 2: Everyone knows that there are people who are non citizens

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Speaker 2: registered to vote in Wisconsin. What we don't know is

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Speaker 2: how many you know that school superintendent in Iowa with

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Speaker 2: the criminal record who not only is not a citizen,

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Speaker 2: but an illegal immigrant and everything else he was voting.

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Speaker 2: He voted in multiple states before he got to Iowa.

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Speaker 2: Some people think that this issue pertains solely to illegal immigration,

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Speaker 2: no legal immigrants, any nons visitors. In order to vote

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Speaker 2: in America, you've got to be a citizen. We don't

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Speaker 2: do anything to verify citizenship. When people register to vote,

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Speaker 2: you got to show a bunch of things, but you

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Speaker 2: never have to show that you're actually a citizen. So

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Speaker 2: how you go back and retroactively do it, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: In any event, we need to clean up our voter

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Speaker 2: rules by, among other things, getting non citizens off the ballot.

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Speaker 2: So this is a good ruling today, I am not

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Speaker 2: confident it will stand up on appeal, not because the

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Speaker 2: ruling isn't correct, but because we voters in Wisconsin can't

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Speaker 2: get conservatives to show up in voting Supreme Court elections

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Speaker 2: in the spring, and the lefties control the state Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: All Right, more on that maybe on Wednesday's podcast. As

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Speaker 2: that story was just developing, let's roll into the content

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Speaker 2: that we had planned for today's program. I want to

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Speaker 2: start with this, Paul. By the way, do not remind

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Speaker 2: complete control of things today. I know that I'm going

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Speaker 2: the things that's becoming more common almost I didn't say entirely,

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Speaker 2: they it was a total lie. It was aimed at

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Speaker 2: but it's all over the place. I'm not doing it

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Speaker 2: right now. This is kind of teasing content within the podcast.

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Speaker 2: It has to do with how the Trump administration is

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Speaker 2: flipping the script on the government shutdown. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: government shutdowns, and these government shutdowns occur every six months

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Speaker 2: keep funding the government for three months, six months, nine months,

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Speaker 2: fund the government again. Sometimes it involves raising the debt limit.

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Speaker 2: I actually don't remember when this started. It just seems

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Speaker 2: there's been one thing that's just true. The Republicans get

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Speaker 2: the kind of establishment conservative media. Of course he never

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Speaker 2: The only Republican that I thought this had this type

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Speaker 2: still have the filibuster rule. To end debate, you need

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Speaker 2: sixty votes. The Republicans narrowly control the House, narrowly control

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Speaker 2: The Republicans passed the bill to it just says we're

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Speaker 2: last document did. The Democrats, of course, want to put

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Speaker 2: an agreement. The Republicans didn't cave the Democrats won't pass

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Speaker 2: I say, normally, this means the Republicans get the blame.

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Speaker 2: the same communication here in Caroline Lovett, the White House

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Speaker 2: You're going to hear the question, which is put in

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Speaker 3: At the top of the briefing, you made a statement

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Speaker 4: Yes, they are.

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Speaker 3: US law already prohibits that. It's a nineteen ninety six

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Speaker 4: Are you declined? Are you denying that Medicaid money has

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Speaker 4: Most certainly can. The Democrats proposal their continuing Resolution, Let

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Speaker 4: me just reiterate the Republican's continuing Resolution was a clean

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Speaker 4: aliens were absolutely receiving taxpayer funded health care benefits. In fact,

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Speaker 4: dollars that were going to emergency services for illegals. Between

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Speaker 4: emergency services for illegal immigrants nearly tripled. There was an

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Speaker 4: According to healthcare professionals, in twenty twenty three, under the

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Speaker 4: Biden administration, Southern California's quote, entire healthcare system was being

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Speaker 2: or not Trump has the authority to unil O I

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Speaker 2: really compose these tariffs. And when I say unilaterally, do

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Speaker 2: it without the approch of the Congress. It's just the

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Speaker 2: Constitution hasn't said you can interpret it one way or another.

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Speaker 2: The Supreme Court will rule and whether or not Trump

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Speaker 2: can impose these tariffs. Obviously, if they rule against him,

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Speaker 2: it means most of the tariffs are gone too. Removal

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Speaker 2: of high level bureaucrats. You have all these federal agencies

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Speaker 2: that are not directly part of the administration. What's directly

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Speaker 2: the White House present I just mentioned Caroline Love at

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Speaker 2: the White House Press Secutor. She's directly part of the administration.

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Speaker 2: The Treasury Secretary of BESSI, he's directly a part of

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Speaker 2: the administration. What about all of these agency heads that

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Speaker 2: have terms of appointment? Can Trump just remove them? Again,

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Speaker 2: it's unclear. The Constitution sets aside the role of the president,

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Speaker 2: but it doesn't dot every i and cross every tea

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Speaker 2: about every specific instance, because some you wouldn't anticipate. The

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court is a case, will have a case in which, again,

449
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: lower courts have ruled on this. Some are ruled one ways,

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Speaker 2: others have ruled an other than the stays issued and

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Speaker 2: sometimes it's allowed in the meantime, but there hasn't been

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Speaker 2: a definitive ruling that one is coming. In this term

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Speaker 2: girls athletics, this is one of the big ones. President

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Speaker 2: Trump has threatened to take away federal funding from states

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Speaker 2: that allow males to continue to participate in girls athletics.

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Speaker 2: The issue seems to have come to an end at

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Speaker 2: the NCAA level college sports, where there's been generally compliance,

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Speaker 2: but in many state high school associations they're refusing to

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Speaker 2: follow the Trump dictum. In addition to that, in other states,

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Speaker 2: the Republican legislatures and governors in those states have banned themselves.

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Speaker 2: Can they There's never been a ruling from the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court on this and why would there have been. The

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Speaker 2: founding fathers could not imagine we would live in a

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Speaker 2: world in which there's thousands of guys running around pretending

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Speaker 2: to be girls. There will be a ruling on that

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Speaker 2: can a person self identify their gender? And can the

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Speaker 2: federal government withhold funding from states if they allow that

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Speaker 2: to occur. I would hope that the Supreme Court would

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Speaker 2: affirm that one's gender and one's sex are the same,

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Speaker 2: and restrictions in participation at certain events because of these

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Speaker 2: are allowable, and I would claim fear to women. Pregnancy

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Speaker 2: centers donor lists another case? Can pregnancy centers keep their

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Speaker 2: donors lists confidential? Confidential? Obviously some of the donors, and

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Speaker 2: a pregnancy center is a facility that helps all women

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Speaker 2: who perhaps they were considering having an abortion and they

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Speaker 2: decide to carry the baby to term. There are a

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Speaker 2: couple of very good ones here in I know of too.

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Speaker 2: There may be more in southeastern Wisconsin. Many of the

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Speaker 2: donors to these organizations don't want to be outed because

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Speaker 2: of the hate directed at them from the pro abortion crowd.

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Speaker 2: Do they have a right to keep their individual donors confidential?

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Speaker 2: They're not political organizations. They're charities that perform medical services.

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Speaker 2: There have been states that have issued edicts ordering these

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Speaker 2: pregnancy centers to lay out their donors' names. Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: rule on whether or not that's legal. Ban on conversion

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Speaker 2: therapy in some states. This is not a federal case,

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Speaker 2: but it comes from some states. In some states, conversion

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Speaker 2: therapy has been banned. Conversion therapy is let's imagine I'm

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Speaker 2: a guy and I think I'm gay, like a fourteen

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Speaker 2: year old kid. Medical experts can counsel you to talk

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Speaker 2: you through that. No, no, no, maybe you're not. Some states

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Speaker 2: have banned Can you ban a counselor from trying to

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Speaker 2: talk a kid out of thinking that he or she

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Speaker 2: is gay? I would argue that you can't do that,

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Speaker 2: that the parents have a free speech right to provide

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Speaker 2: this type of counseling if they think that their kid

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Speaker 2: is simply messed up. In the end, the kid can

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Speaker 2: reject the counseling. That's a case in front of the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court. Next, the Hawaii gun law. It's hard to

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Speaker 2: say which states have the most restrictive gun laws, but

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Speaker 2: Hawaii's got to be right there at the top of

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Speaker 2: the list. I mean, I've been to Hawaii a couple

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Speaker 2: of times on our cruise, but you can't like take

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Speaker 2: the guns on the plane. And it wasn't like I

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Speaker 2: was going to go into a gun store in Hawaii.

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Speaker 2: This is one that would not affect me. But of

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Speaker 2: course a Supreme Court ruling is what precedent setting Hawaii law.

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Speaker 2: States that have concealed Carrie permit holders want to take

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Speaker 2: guns onto private property, including stores, restaurants, and hotels, they

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Speaker 2: need permission, either verbally or through a side no. The

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Speaker 2: way the law works in most states is if you

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Speaker 2: want to tell somebody. For instance, many buildings will say

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Speaker 2: you can't bring a gun in here. The courts have

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Speaker 2: allowed that. In Hawaii, you have to go the other way.

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Speaker 2: You have to ask permission before you go in. In

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Speaker 2: other words, rather than require the store to put up

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Speaker 2: aside it. I mean, anytime you went into a building,

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Speaker 2: you'd have to ask the building can I bring my

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Speaker 2: gun or my knife or my maze or whatever it

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Speaker 2: is that's in there. The Supreme Court will rule on

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Speaker 2: whether or not that is a violation of gun rights.

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Speaker 2: Death penalty and IQ this is another big one. Should

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Speaker 2: one's IQ affect whether or not they can get the

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Speaker 2: death penalty? What do you think. Paul said, absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: In some states the death penalty cannot be applied to

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Speaker 2: people whose IQ is below a certain level. Now I

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Speaker 2: contend your IQ doesn't affect your moral compass. At some level,

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Speaker 2: people may simply be the old term as vegetable. They

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Speaker 2: may not be able to fathom anything. And then there's

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Speaker 2: also insanity. But insanity is not the same as IQ.

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Speaker 2: You can be extremely intelligent and be mentally insane. I

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Speaker 2: don't think a lack of intelligence makes one less culpable

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Speaker 2: for committing a murder. This is not a ruling on

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Speaker 2: whether or not we should have the death penalty. It's

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Speaker 2: a ruling on whether or not you can get out

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Speaker 2: of the death penalty because your IQ is low. The

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court has never addressed it. That's up in this

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Speaker 2: term as well. There's another campaign spending rule, and I

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00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: won't get into the dictims of all of this, but

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Speaker 2: the biggest campaign spending rule of Supreme Court ever turned

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Speaker 2: down was thought to be good for the Republicans at

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Speaker 2: the time, and it turned out to be a god

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Speaker 2: send for the Democrats Citizens United because the Democrats raised

544
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Speaker 2: way more money from third party groups than do Republicans.

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Speaker 2: Is another ruling on campaign spending coming up. Defense contractor liability. Again,

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Speaker 2: I won't go into that in great detail, but it

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Speaker 2: has to do with companies that are contractors to the

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Speaker 2: Department of Defense. Can they then be held liable for

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Speaker 2: what has done with their equipment after it's turned over

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Speaker 2: to the military. There's a number of other cases involving

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Speaker 2: Trump as well. My point is is that this term

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Speaker 2: of the Supreme Court against only a month, We're going

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Speaker 2: to get rulings on all of these things. It's going

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Speaker 2: to be enormous. Let me get to the Loop Puncher.

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Speaker 2: You heard about the Loop Puncher. You have not the

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Speaker 2: story will be a benefit twenty Cubs fans that are

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Speaker 2: in town for the game. There's somebody in Chicago. There

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Speaker 2: may be more than one of them, but there's one guy.

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Speaker 2: They know for sure because there's video evidence of him.

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Speaker 2: He's called the Loop Puncher, but downtown Chicago was called

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Speaker 2: the loop. He walks up to people and punches him

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Speaker 2: in the face in many cases women. He keeps doing

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Speaker 2: it and he gets arrested. Now, for those of you

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Speaker 2: that are naive as to what's going on in liberal

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00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: states in the United States, you may be wondering how

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Speaker 2: is he able to keep doing it if he keeps

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Speaker 2: getting arrested, And the answer is, Illinois passed cashless bail.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to put up cash to bail out.

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Speaker 2: And because his cases drag on forever and ever and ever,

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Speaker 2: they arrest him and he comes, gets out and then

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Speaker 2: punches somebody in the face. Again. It just shows you

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Speaker 2: how idiotic no cash bail is. By the way, we

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Speaker 2: will have cashless bail in Wisconsin if the Democrats fit

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Speaker 2: the state legislature next year, which many people think they

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Speaker 2: will do with the new maps that are in place,

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Speaker 2: it will be one of the first things that they do.

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Speaker 2: And I guarantee you the left of Supreme Court will

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Speaker 2: approve of it. So the problem that we have now,

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Speaker 2: if judge's not setting high enough bail in Wisconsin, you'll

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Speaker 2: get to where we are in Illinois. But there's just

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Speaker 2: no bail. There are certain crimes in which they don't

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Speaker 2: set a bail, like murder, but other than that, people

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Speaker 2: don't have to put up any cash, and it's just

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Speaker 2: fueling the crime problem. There's now a case here of

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Speaker 2: some young men confronting the loop puncher. What can they do?

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00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: They literally caught him. Here he is, and the police

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00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: are in the position of, okay, we can take him

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Speaker 2: back into custody, and he's going to be released as

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Speaker 2: soon as he sees the judge the following morning, because

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Speaker 2: you don't have cash bail in the state of Illinois.

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Speaker 2: And now let me get to this story. You may

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Speaker 2: have noticed that healthcare premiums for those of you that

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Speaker 2: are signing up in your open enrollment periods and so on,

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Speaker 2: and all of them, the ones for governments, there's three

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00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: types of Almost everybody is in one of three cat

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00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: well four, I guess. The three big ones are Obamacare,

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Speaker 2: private employer provided health insurance, and Medicare. All of them

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00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: are coming into the open enrollment periods right now. And

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Speaker 2: you may have noticed, if you're already started to look

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Speaker 2: into this, or if you've already gotten the notice from

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Speaker 2: the state of the company that you're in and so on,

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Speaker 2: the rates are exploding. They're going way, way, way up.

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Speaker 2: It's driven by Obamacare. And for the people under Obamacare,

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Speaker 2: their premiums are exploding. We're talking in some states twenty

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Speaker 2: to fifty percent. Why when Obamacare was passed, which is

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Speaker 2: now nearly a decade ago, they put in place a

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Speaker 2: series of tax credits for the people covered by Obamacare.

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Speaker 2: What's a tax credit? People confuse credits and deductions. A

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00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: credit is like cash. He means you just get it.

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Speaker 2: You get it to the filing of your taxes. And

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Speaker 2: the credit was aimed directly. You're only eligible if you're

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Speaker 2: on Obamacare. So the people who had Obamacare were getting

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Speaker 2: a huge chunk of cash to pay for their portion

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Speaker 2: of Obamacare. You followed me on this. These credits expire.

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Speaker 2: Now you may wonder why did the Democrats when they

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Speaker 2: passed Obamacare have these credits expire. You have no capability

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Speaker 2: of understanding this because you just not understand how Democrats think.

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Speaker 2: Why would they have them expire? No, no, no, they

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Speaker 2: want them to expire because they think that if Republicans

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Speaker 2: try not to extend the credits, they can plan and

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Speaker 2: they were planning this all they think ahead. So now

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Speaker 2: the Republicans have to decide whether or not to extend

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Speaker 2: these credits. In other words, spend a fortune when you

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Speaker 2: provide these credits. That's money straight out of the federal

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Speaker 2: but government budget makes the deficit explode even more. Or

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Speaker 2: do they allow them to expire the problem with Obamacare,

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Speaker 2: as we said at the time, is that it was

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Speaker 2: a pyramids game, that there was no way you could

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Speaker 2: ever have this thing pay for itself. You can't simply

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Speaker 2: put all of these people that are above the level

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Speaker 2: of Medicaid health care for poor people in other words,

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Speaker 2: the lower income working poor, the lower income working I

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Speaker 2: shouldn't say poor, because not everybody in Obamacare is poor,

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Speaker 2: but they're like below the middle of the middle class,

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Speaker 2: and then give them this subsidized healthcare without eventually having

636
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: the whole system financially topples. So what is happening now

637
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: is private health care insurance is going up because of

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Speaker 2: the losses that they're taking on Obamacare. They have to

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Speaker 2: be able to make ends meet. And secondly, healthcare costs

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00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: of course generally going up. And third the ending of

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Speaker 2: these credits, which were in the many many zeros in

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Speaker 2: terms of the of the number here, are to expire.

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Speaker 2: It will be an interesting test of not only the

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Speaker 2: Republicans but Trump whether or not they want them to continue.

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Speaker 2: My guess is that they will continue the credits in

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Speaker 2: order to mitigate against the massive increase in costs under Obamacare,

647
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Speaker 2: but they'll still get the like you'll still still get

648
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Speaker 2: the blame anyway. The problem with Obamacare constantly going up

649
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Speaker 2: is that it is Obamacare, and the way that it

650
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Speaker 2: was set up was unlike what Obama said, to take

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Speaker 2: away your ability to choose your doctor, to limit the

652
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Speaker 2: ability to get certain kinds of treatments, all the craft

653
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Speaker 2: that was put in there, and the fact that there

654
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Speaker 2: was no way financially to make it pay for itself.

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Speaker 2: Thus that what an incredibly comprehensive first segment? What wasn't it?

656
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Speaker 2: By the way, one of the most effective ways of

657
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Speaker 2: saying something is to say you're not going to say it.

658
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Speaker 2: You follow that you did. What did I just say?

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Speaker 2: What does that mean? I? Well, I just said, well,

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Speaker 2: I meant did you get that? I didn't mean could

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Speaker 2: you repeat it? I meant did you understand the point

662
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Speaker 2: of it? You think so, well, then explain it.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: The opposite, one of the most effective ways of saying

665
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: something is to say that you're not going to say it.

666
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Speaker 2: I didn't say not. I said to not say it.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give you an example of that. I

668
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Speaker 2: today am not going to say anything about the fact

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Speaker 2: that in our football contest, I'm five and one. Do

670
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Speaker 2: you not understand what that who's saying that I'm not right?

671
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark

672
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Speaker 2: Belling podcast. Now here's an interesting story. There are certain

673
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Speaker 2: products that are out there that aren't worth it, and

674
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Speaker 2: when you decide if something is worth it, you're it's

675
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: not the same answer for everyone else. For example, is

676
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Speaker 2: a cruise worth it? Well, it depends how long is

677
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: the cruise, what cruise line are you going on, what

678
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: are your destinations, what's the cost, what's your means? And

679
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: mostly do you want to do it more than the

680
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Speaker 2: cost hit that you will have to take? Any number

681
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: of things would work like that. So somebody may say, I,

682
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: for example, don't think going to Starbucks is worth it.

683
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: I just don't not understand. I'm paying eleven dollars for

684
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Speaker 2: a frappuccino, this and that, and another six dollars for

685
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Speaker 2: a dry scone. I don't get it, and I've never

686
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: got it. I said, well, you could afford to go.

687
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 2: I know I could afford to go there, but I

688
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: don't think it's worth it. If I'm in an airport

689
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: or something else and there's no other alternative, we'll go

690
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: to Starbucks. But usually even in the airport. I'll look

691
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: for like the non Starbucks down the thing to buy

692
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Speaker 2: the coffee, or if I'm the Delta sky Club, they

693
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Speaker 2: give it to you for free there. If I'm not

694
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Speaker 2: flying Delta, I think or just okay, I'm not going

695
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 2: to have the coffee. I'll wait to get anyway. That's

696
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Speaker 2: an example of that. Here's another example. Almost everybody who

697
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Speaker 2: is in the business of advising people what to spend

698
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Speaker 2: money on, say flood insurance is not worth it. Why

699
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 2: because hardly anybody who does not live in a floodplain

700
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: ever collects on it. It's very expensive relatively speaking, it's very

701
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: expensive because the insurance companies have to price it at

702
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: a level to cover the hit that they take if

703
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: there is flooding. Now, it's controversial in areas that are

704
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: prone to flooding because the rates there are extremely high

705
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: Florida and so on. But now let's take a situation

706
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Speaker 2: like Wisconsin, especially if you don't live along a river

707
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: or something like that. Is flood insurance worth it? Almost

708
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 2: anybody would tell you, no, what is it. You're paying

709
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Speaker 2: a fortune over the years for doing something for which

710
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: you'll hardly how many people have flooding? Hardly anybody except

711
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: what if you do. And we obviously had a big

712
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: rainstorm here in southeastern Wisconsin a couple of months ago,

713
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Speaker 2: and there are parts of the area the turk. It

714
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: was one of those storms in which the rain totals

715
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Speaker 2: were all over the map, but they were high many people.

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Speaker 2: A big area was the southern half of Milwaukee County,

717
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Speaker 2: but there are others were hard hit. And in many

718
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: instances the flooding was such that the some pumps were

719
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Speaker 2: not able to keep up. Some pump is trying to

720
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Speaker 2: pump the water out from underneath your building and pump

721
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Speaker 2: it out of the air faster than it can get in.

722
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: And in some cases the water is just working faster

723
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Speaker 2: some pumps. In other cases maybe the some pump doesn't work.

724
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Speaker 2: But usually it's just the some pump can't keep up

725
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Speaker 2: because they're not created for all of this water. There's

726
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: also what do you call those things flood tiles? Is

727
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: that it drain toils? Is that it for sure? It's

728
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: like it's just that it's under the floor, say, of

729
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: your basement. It's an attempt to This is a real

730
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: technical but stop up and stop the water from getting in.

731
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Speaker 2: Most people aren't going to encounter. You have a basement,

732
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Speaker 2: don't you Did you get any flooding from this recent storm?

733
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: Did not well, but some people did. There's a story

734
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Speaker 2: in JS online today about some people who are facing

735
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 2: massive hardship because they didn't have flood insurance. One woman

736
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: here sixty thousand dollars in coverage. The story also points

737
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 2: out that some people took you know, and with regard

738
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: to getting this, it's usually a rider on your homeowner's insurance.

739
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Speaker 2: You get homeowners insurance, and they do you want to

740
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Speaker 2: pay extra for this and this and this and this

741
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: and this and this. One of the cheapest riders is

742
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: some pump insurance. You probably don't even know if you

743
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 2: have this, And this is part of the problem. Most

744
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: people when they get their insurance, they don't even know

745
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Speaker 2: what they saw. Do you know you don't have it,

746
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: or you don't know if you have it, positive you

747
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: don't have it. The some pump insurance is not flood insurance,

748
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: but some people think it is. The some pump insurance

749
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: is if your some pump breaks. It's not if the

750
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Speaker 2: some pump can't keep up. It's if you get the

751
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: flooding because the some pump broke. Well, many people sign

752
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: up for the According to the story and Jazz Online,

753
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: they sign up for the SOMEU pump insurance and they

754
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: think that they're getting a They think that they're getting

755
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: flood insurance. And the story also points out the insurance

756
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: salespeople don't really push flood insurance because the insurance companies

757
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: are offering it because they have to. The insurance companies

758
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: don't make it much either, because it's unpredictable. One massive flood,

759
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: they can take a big hit pan out all of

760
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: these claims. It's just an interesting story because it's one

761
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: of those deals in which you're paying for something that's

762
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: a bad deal in order to stop the slim chance

763
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: of being hammered. There's lots of things like that in life,

764
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: where you're going through a whole lot of trouble to

765
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: pre you know, on the off chance something bad would

766
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: happen to you. I would also say it's like the

767
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Speaker 2: second end smoke thing. Very few people die of second

768
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Speaker 2: d smoke. They can bring up all this stuff that

769
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: your chance is, well, yeah, your chances are greater if

770
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: you're living with a smoker than if they're not, but

771
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: it's still not very likely to kill you. Okay, throwing

772
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: the guy out of the house and telling me he

773
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: can't smoke because of your fear of the second hand smoke.

774
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: Is it worth breaking up a marriage and so on? Again,

775
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: it all depends on you know, your own take on

776
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: these things. I don't think that there's a governmental response here.

777
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: People want flood insurance, They can buy flood insurance. I know,

778
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 2: living a high rise before I did, I never took

779
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: it at a basement in the last place, I didn't

780
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: take flood insurance. What am I going to get? A flooded?

781
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 2: And often when you're flooded, the cost isn't great. Sometimes

782
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 2: it's just letting the water clean out, you rip out

783
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: the carpeting and so on. But in other cases the

784
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: damage is massive, unfortunate. At least the people who tend

785
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: not to take flood insurance are lower income people because

786
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: you know, if you're really, really rich, well you could

787
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: afford it, and those are the people that our hardest

788
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: hit by this. If there's a teaching moment in this,

789
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: you have to understand that your homeowner's policy doesn't cover everything,

790
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 2: but almost all the things it doesn't cover. You can

791
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: buy a rider to put it on, and you need

792
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 2: to be aware of this. You say, well, that's probably not. Yeah,

793
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: you're likely not to be hit by lightning either. By

794
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: the way, that's a thing in which you just changed

795
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 2: our entire attitudes. All these football games that they stop

796
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: because there's lightning in the area, Paul, that's a new

797
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 2: thing prior to nineteen. I don't know what it was.

798
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,959
Speaker 2: I was at a college football game on the cross

799
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Speaker 2: where there was lightning going. They didn't clear the stadium

800
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Speaker 2: because what are the chances it's gonna hit you here?

801
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: And we just always that was always the example you're

802
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: likely to have this than being hit by lightning, and

803
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: hit by lightning was like one of the most remote

804
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: things that's possible. The difference, of course, is golf. As

805
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: long as I can remember, you had to come off

806
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: the golf course and there was lighting. You're holding a metal,

807
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: lightning ritting your hand in your wide open spaces, you're

808
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: much greater. It's like you have a lightning rode out

809
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: in the field when you're holding the golf club. But

810
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: they didn't do that because the chances of an individuals Okay,

811
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 2: you play the game, what are the chances? But no, well,

812
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: safety first, it's the same thing with regard to the

813
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: flood insurance we're leaning over and to take this safety

814
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Speaker 2: safety safety, make sure something bad that even the possibility

815
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Speaker 2: of his remote this story is big Berry Wise, I

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Speaker 2: know you're thinking very white, Remember very remember that he thought,

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Speaker 2: I said, remember very white. I claim the deepest voice

818
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Speaker 2: in the history of voices. Yeah, and you just I

819
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: don't know if it's because he only sang like I

820
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: was gonna say love songs. It's a different term for it.

821
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 2: It's actually bleep songs. Very I don't know if we

822
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: associate deep voices with sexiness because very white, or if

823
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: just because the guy with the deepest voice sang like

824
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: sexy songs. I don't know if they like if I

825
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: just walk deep, would that be sexy? Or do we

826
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: just assume they're talking deep and sexy because Barry White

827
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: would say very it says not. However, about very white.

828
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Speaker 2: I just throw it in because I'm an incredibly funny

829
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Speaker 2: and humorous guy. Somebody else doing a podcast, They're going

830
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: to do a very white story without going on for

831
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Speaker 2: ninety seconds, so totally waste the time of a very

832
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Speaker 2: white plus. You know, guys, a deep voices tend to

833
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: be big guys. Right. I don't know why that he is.

834
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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem to like they would go together. Yeah,

835
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 2: just but why would your side? That's always surprised, you know,

836
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: in radio there's a lot of deep voice, because it's

837
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: always surprising when I'll see a guy with a deep voice,

838
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: especially back in the day when you never saw the

839
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: picture of the person in radio and it was always

840
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: a little skinny ruddy. I'm thinking of one guy. I've

841
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: talked about it in the past, the guy. He did.

842
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: It was country music station that I worked at. The

843
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: guy drank the entire time he was on the air

844
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: and smoked the entire time he was on the air.

845
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: You were allowed to smoke, and by the way, in

846
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 2: that era, everyone in radio except me smoke. You got

847
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: in right when smoking stopped being a requirement for working

848
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: in radio, but you were never allowed to drink. The

849
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: guy would he put. He drank, of course, vodka, which

850
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: doesn't have a real odor to it, and he'd put

851
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: it in some of it like a water bottle or something,

852
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: and hammered at the entire four hours that he was

853
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: He was the most effect I couldn't. You would not

854
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 2: have known had I not known, you would. He never

855
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: slurred his speech, but the combination should have constantly drinking

856
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: and smoking. You're just a skinny runt of a guy, Paul.

857
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: His voice was so deep. I mean, should I get

858
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 2: to Barry Weiss here or should I keep going on

859
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: on these completely? Barry Weiss used to work for the

860
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: New York Times. She's not a conservative. I describe her

861
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: as a moderate. She was at the Times a brilliant

862
00:50:54,400 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: journalist and one of the few that asked questions that

863
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: were difficult for the left. She was not politically correct.

864
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: She wrote a couple of opinion pieces challenging conventional wisdom

865
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: of the left, and they forced her out. She was

866
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: like in terms of journalism or of the New York Times,

867
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: she was a superstar. The staff of the New York

868
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: Times simply could not abide a prominent voice on the

869
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 2: paper that was not from the far left. So, of

870
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: course getting fired for Barry Weiss, forced out is the

871
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: better term. It's the best thing that could ever have

872
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: happened to her. She moved into the alternative media world

873
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: and she's become very, very huge. She's got a podcast,

874
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: but she also started a news organization. For those of

875
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: you that follow a lot of news sources online, the

876
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: free press, very big so and if you've ever heard

877
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: her talk, she's just she's one of the few people

878
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 2: that's in the field of journalism which I entered, you know,

879
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 2: half a century ago, that still has journalistic integrity, willing

880
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 2: to pursue stories without regard to who likes the outcome

881
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: where she was chasing. It's just a high quality person

882
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: and a strong reporter. Paramount, as you know, recently bought CBS.

883
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 2: Paramount's subsidiary, Skideans. Skuidance is run by I keep forgetting

884
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 2: his name. He's Larry Ellison's son. Larry Ellison is the

885
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: second richest guy in the world. Oracle. His son has

886
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: taken over Skydeans, and Skydance owns Paramount, and Paramount bought CBS,

887
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: so CBS CBS News lefty as can be, is now

888
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: under control of this company. And Ellison is not a lefty.

889
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: I don't think he's conservative, but he's bought CBS and

890
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 2: he's doing what I suggested forever and ever and ever

891
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: that one of the networks should do. Stop being leftist

892
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,479
Speaker 2: and just play it down the middle. Stop chasing away

893
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: half your audience. Among the things that have happened since

894
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: they took this over. Colbert got fired and so on.

895
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 2: So I'm putting two stories together. Who do you think

896
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: paramount just hired to be the editor in chief of

897
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: CBS News Barry Wise. Now this is a big deal.

898
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 2: I am skeptical as to whether or not Berry can

899
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: fix this. Here's why. The problem with bias in the

900
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: news media is hiring a staff that isn't biased. Almost

901
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: everybody that goes into journalism is a left wing shell.

902
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: Now when I went into it, I think most people

903
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: went into it or left wing as well, but there

904
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: was generally integrity in which you were more interested in

905
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 2: breaking stories and being a spectacular success as a reporter

906
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: than carrying who won an election or whose ox was

907
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: getting gord. When I went to Benton Harbor, Michigan, and

908
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 2: I did reporting that I managed to get the mayor

909
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: and the city manager both forced out of office. Was

910
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 2: it my golden doing this thing? Was they were bad?

911
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 3: Well?

912
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: They were. I think every single person in Bretton Harbor

913
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: was like borderline corrupt. It was just one of those

914
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: things that happens when an entire city runs on federal

915
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 2: and state funds. But I liked both of them personally,

916
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: there's good stories and they are true stories. What do

917
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: I care what side of the issue they're on. But

918
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: now these people are all activists. So how do you

919
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: staff up CBS News without having left wing biased when

920
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: a everybody who works there is a left wing shell

921
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: who refuses not to be biased. Some people say, well,

922
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 2: how does Fox do it? The problem is foxes. You

923
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: know a lot of people who work for Fox and News.

924
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: They're liberal, but they're required to try to play the

925
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 2: news down the middle. I think every last person who's

926
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: willing to do it Fox already stapped up. So she's

927
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 2: going to be tasked with trying to turn this around. Now,

928
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 2: I would think one of the places she could start

929
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 2: at sixty minutes. Sixty minutes and it does a profile

930
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: piece of a conservative, it's a hit job. If it's

931
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: a liberal, it's a puff piece. Its just been the

932
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: case forever. She can simply require that we do a

933
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 2: few puff pieces on conservatives and hit jobs on liberals.

934
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: Just start from that point, because see, because sixty minutes

935
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: has like eighteen minute stories and they do what three

936
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 2: or four show, putting in one or two or three

937
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: that work. The other way would be one of the

938
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: easier things to do. Now this story revenge porn and

939
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: so called fake porn that we've talked about this forever,

940
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: we have a concrete case of it. Revenge porn is

941
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: you know what revenge porn is? Don't you? Getting back

942
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: at your actually posting? You know, Let's suppose you had

943
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: an AX and you were in a man and she

944
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: sent your naked pictures and all of that stuff. See,

945
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: you're married. I can't fathom a married couple doing it.

946
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: What's the point of if you're married sending them naked

947
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 2: pictures wandering around in the same host naked all the time?

948
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: See what like in your dating? They send it because okay,

949
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 2: I'm not here, And Paul ask me if I've ever

950
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 2: done this? If I didn't know, can you imagine me

951
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: being stupid enough to do it, or for that matter,

952
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: being enough of a dork? Oh look at me here,

953
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: here's my thing. Well, just a lot of people I

954
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: have you. I'm just saying, would you can you imagine

955
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: me doing it? No? All right, that's revenge porn? Say,

956
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 2: and then you break up when the person answering stuff

957
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 2: and they put it out there, and here's a that's

958
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: revenge porn. The other one is fake porn, which is

959
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: porn involving non humans. AI is getting better and better

960
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: and better, and we're debating in court whether or not

961
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: it should be illegal. For example, if you create fake

962
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: porn involving children, in other words, fake children, should that

963
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 2: be child porn? Not here to answer that. This involves

964
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 2: a combination of fake porn or AI generated porn with

965
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: revenge porn. Now you may be wondering how the two

966
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: can come together. The guys from Franklin, I'll get to

967
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 2: his name in a minute. He had a woman who

968
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: was dating back in twenty twenty two. Here's another thing,

969
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: these guys who can't let go by the way I say, guys,

970
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: it's women too fatal attraction be can't let go another

971
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 2: thing I don't get. See you now, you don't have

972
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: to get this. You've been married for eight hundred and

973
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: fifty seven years. I get people that get involved in

974
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: they're serious and all of that stuff. And I also

975
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: get your heart broken and you're angry and all of that.

976
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,479
Speaker 2: There's a statue of limitations that most people are able

977
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: to live by on that, and it's usually distraught for

978
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: three weeks angry for three months, totally over it by

979
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: nine months. That's what I've observed in my life is general,

980
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: and the more serious the thing, you know that it

981
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: affects the timeline. But that's what I've generally seen. And you,

982
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: even as a merry guy, you've kind of seen, right,

983
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: You've observed that. Then there are people who can't let

984
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 2: go all right. Twenty twenty two. Guy dates a woman.

985
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: Apparently it wasn't for real long, they break up and

986
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: she dumbs him. Quoting from the story and JS online,

987
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 2: the two dated briefly in twenty twenty two. See now,

988
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: what I'm guessing is the guy has a hard time

989
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: getting women briefly is the key here? The other thing,

990
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: how can you get obsessed with somebody when you only

991
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: went out briefly? Wouldn't you think that would be hard?

992
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I have dated in my life. You just

993
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: generally don't can to get an obsession if you've gone

994
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: out four times. That's what I'm saying. I don't know this,

995
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: but it's my guess. When she broke up with him,

996
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: he began to call her racial slurs and text her NonStop.

997
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: The texting thing, well, I don't know how long blocking

998
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: has been on the phones. You know how long it's

999
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: been on there a while. Well, she's out of a

1000
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 2: black So now he's really frustrated because he can't communicate.

1001
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: When you block on the text, you also blocked on

1002
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 2: the phone calls. This leaves generally stalking. Okay, they keep

1003
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: driving around, I don't. He doesn't appear to be accused

1004
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: of that. He is accused, however, of both revenge porn

1005
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: and AI porn. He doesn't have didn't have any photos,

1006
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: according to this of her naked or in a compromising position,

1007
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: but he does have photo of her, so he took

1008
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: the photo allegedly this is a criminal allegation, and then

1009
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: used AI to put her face on a body of

1010
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: someone doing the nasty and porn and you know, in

1011
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: the you can make this look very real right now,

1012
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: and then distributed. So he's distributing a photo of his

1013
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: ex in sexually compromising faces and it actually is her face,

1014
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 2: but it's not her body, it's AI generated. There are

1015
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: criminal charges against him. He's from Franklin. His name is

1016
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 2: Kevin I think pronounced Schultz Sccholz, forty five of Franklin.

1017
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: He's charged with by the way, we just passed this

1018
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: law in Wisconsin dealing with the whole issue of revenge

1019
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: point and so on. And it's going to have to

1020
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 2: be tested in the court as to whether or not

1021
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: this is legal. And I hope that this is something

1022
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: to be illegal. To imagine just taking someone's face and

1023
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: then presenting them doing things it can't be legal, capturing

1024
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 2: an inter representation of someone without consent, and disorderly conduct.

1025
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: In late September, he used to work as a cop.

1026
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 2: That's from the js online story. His Lincoln page shows

1027
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: he previously worked in law enforcement in Milwaukee and Walworth Counties.

1028
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: He worked for the town of Norway the Southwest Milwaukee

1029
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: in the south West Milwaukee metro as a boat patrol

1030
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 2: officer between twenty seven and twenty nineteen, before he resigned

1031
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: before an internal investigation was completed. So you ever a

1032
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: bit of him twenty nineteen. I don't know if it

1033
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: had anything to do with this, because this happened years

1034
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: before the thing in twenty twenty two. My advice to

1035
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: him and anybody else kind of let it go. Let

1036
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: me say, well, it's easy for you to say yes,

1037
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 2: it's easy for me to say I know. This podcast

1038
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: seems some of you don't think it last long enough.

1039
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 2: Others off you think I go on and on it forever.

1040
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: What did I tell you at the beginning of the podcast,

1041
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: you with the mind of whatever the opposite of a

1042
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: steel trap is, what would that be? Like a mesh netting,

1043
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 2: kind of sieve, kind of like gelatinous thing that everything

1044
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: just kind of pours through. I don't remember I said

1045
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 2: that I would work in the story somewhere. It's coming

1046
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 2: up in a second here about lying as a way

1047
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: of getting what you want in governmental activity, how it

1048
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 2: has been, especially on the left, just become common to

1049
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: the point of acceptance. It's almost as well if we

1050
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 2: can get away with it, so what, because we're doing

1051
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: the right thing. I have an example of this in

1052
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: a moment For those of you who do not even

1053
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 2: remember that, I teas that, like Paul, I wonder what

1054
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 2: percentage was sitting back there thinking I remember, I bet

1055
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 2: more than half. It wasn't. What was it the longest

1056
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,439
Speaker 2: amount of time. I could have done it two minutes

1057
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: ago and you would not have remembered it. This is

1058
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: why I write things down, or I would then forget

1059
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 2: go do a teasing. At the beginning of the podcast

1060
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: and then forget to do it at the end. But

1061
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 2: I haven't written right down for the third segment. You know,

1062
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: do this so if you want to know what this

1063
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: is right here next to the Marked Belling podcast, this

1064
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: is the Mark Belling podcast. I need to I'm not

1065
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: going to name the person, but a listener found this

1066
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 2: for me and forwarded it. I'm going to give you

1067
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: the background of the story, and then I'm going to

1068
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: give you the live The story itself is happening in

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Speaker 2: a lot of communities in Wisconsin. All these municipalities, cities, counties, etc.

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Speaker 2: They all claim they're out of money, and they're up

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Speaker 2: against the limits that are in place as to how

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Speaker 2: much governmental bodies can raise their spending. They can only

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Speaker 2: raise the tax levy by a certain amount each year

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Speaker 2: without going to the voters and seeking approval. And I'm

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Speaker 2: just telling you all over the place, they're claiming we

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Speaker 2: need to raise, we need to raise, we need to raise.

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Speaker 2: When they're not able to get voter approval to do

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Speaker 2: the raising. What's been resorted to in a number of

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Speaker 2: communities is to try to take something that is a

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Speaker 2: city service that you're already paying for under your property

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Speaker 2: tax and breaking it out and charging it as a

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Speaker 2: separate fee. In other words, take a service that's in

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Speaker 2: there and take it out of the regular city budget,

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Speaker 2: so you've now lowered you're spending and therefore you can

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Speaker 2: spend that money on something else, but then charging it

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Speaker 2: out as a separate fee, separate from your property taxes.

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Speaker 2: Some of these have been challenged in court what Wisconsin

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Speaker 2: Institute in Law and Liberty that have been struck down

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Speaker 2: as unconstitutional. Whether or not the one that I'm going

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Speaker 2: to discuss here will be or not, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know exactly whether or not you can charge

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Speaker 2: for these things or not. The story is some Waukeshaw

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Speaker 2: City of Waukeshaw, not to be confused with washing Wakashaw County.

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Speaker 2: City of Wakshaw is proposing a garbage fee. Currently, garbage

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Speaker 2: services are included in the city budget and covered by

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Speaker 2: people's property taxes. Wakshaw is proposing to break out the

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Speaker 2: garbage from the city budget and instead charge all property

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Speaker 2: owners a fee to have the garbage picked up. The

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Speaker 2: fee would be one hundred and sixty dollars. This story

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Speaker 2: is not about whether or not they should or shouldn't well,

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Speaker 2: I will say they should and do it, but that's

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Speaker 2: not the point of the story. In order to gain

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Speaker 2: support for this, they've created a website in which they

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Speaker 2: make the case for creating the garbage fee. And one

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Speaker 2: of the things that they do is, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about a chart.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna describe a chart. And obviously I don't have

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Speaker 2: a video podcast. You can't see this, but just pay

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Speaker 2: attention to me. I think you can follow this. I'm

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Speaker 2: very good at simplifying things. I'm right up there with

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Speaker 2: Caroline love It. What they do is they create a

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Speaker 2: chart and the chart show. The chart shows two squiggly lines.

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Speaker 2: One of the squiggly lines is the increase each year

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Speaker 2: in the property tax levee. The other squiggly line is

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Speaker 2: the CPI, the Consumer Price Index. Obviously both go up

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Speaker 2: over time. So one graph charts and they go back

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Speaker 2: let's see it starts in twenty fourteen, so they go

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Speaker 2: back eleven years and they're tracking the cp and that's

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Speaker 2: one of the lines in the graph, and then the

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Speaker 2: property tax levee and the other. And the point that

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Speaker 2: they're trying to make is the property tax levee increases,

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Speaker 2: not keeping up with inflation so far fair enough. On

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Speaker 2: the left side of the chart, before the line start,

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Speaker 2: they have a graph that shows percentages, and I'll read

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Speaker 2: here like zero point five one, one point five to two. So,

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Speaker 2: in other words, as the as the lines on the

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Speaker 2: graph move up, that indicates the corresponding higher number of

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Speaker 2: percentage increase. You're with me, so far right, So they've

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Speaker 2: got the two lines. Would you believe that they bleeped

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Speaker 2: with the lines on the line with regard to the

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Speaker 2: city property tax levee for all eleven years that line

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Speaker 2: is below the other squiggly line for the CPI, creating

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Speaker 2: the impression that in every one of those years the

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Speaker 2: tax levee went up less than the CPI. But there

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Speaker 2: are several years here in which the CPI went up

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Speaker 2: at a lower rate, yet on the graph its graphed

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Speaker 2: out is a higher level. So I remember when I said,

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Speaker 2: over on the left, they've got the percentage chart. The

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Speaker 2: city tax levee does correspond to what the percentage is,

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Speaker 2: and it's generally in the range of one to two percent,

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Speaker 2: and you see it on the graph at that point.

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Speaker 2: But the CPI number does not correspond to the chart

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Speaker 2: on the left. In one year. In fact, the highest

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Speaker 2: increase in the CPI was Biden's zero when it went

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Speaker 2: to seven point seven. But they've got it on the

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Speaker 2: graph as over nine and every year that I looked

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Speaker 2: at on here, the CPI number is higher on the

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Speaker 2: chart than the corresponding percentage is off to the left.

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Speaker 2: It creates the impression that the CPI is all always

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Speaker 2: way higher than the property tax level. Now, if you

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Speaker 2: looked at the number and under each of them they

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01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: have a tiny little number, you would see that the

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Speaker 2: that the chart is actually a lie in several years,

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Speaker 2: that the two lines should be crossing against one another

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Speaker 2: because the CPI is lower than the increase in the

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Speaker 2: property text. Let me, but they haven't higher the entire

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Speaker 2: time around. And then at the end they average out

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Speaker 2: the increase in the years, which is only one percent.

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Speaker 2: But the lines are like miles apart. Could this just

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Speaker 2: be a walker Shaw bureaucrat who's an idiot who doesn't

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Speaker 2: know how to track, you know, create charts. We've seen

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Speaker 2: these charts all the time. In fact, you'll see it

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Speaker 2: a lot with regard to say a mutual fund versus

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Speaker 2: the S and P. Five hundred and some years, the

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Speaker 2: mutual fund will do better than the sp and the

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Speaker 2: charts go zig zag back and forth. We have them

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Speaker 2: with interest rates and so on any number of charts

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Speaker 2: you'll see that they'll cross over from time to time.

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Speaker 2: This one never crosses, even though the numbers crossed. I

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Speaker 2: think this is deliberate. I think that whoever did it,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Brown's the city administrator. Sean Riley is the mayor.

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Speaker 2: Whoever did it is a liar. By the way, prior

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Speaker 2: to today's podcast, I both called and emailed the both

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Speaker 2: of them. I did not at the beginning as of

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Speaker 2: the start of the podcast get a response some either

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Speaker 2: of them on this. So again, the people in the

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Speaker 2: City of Walking show passing this garbage fee may or

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Speaker 2: may not be a good idea under your position, But

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Speaker 2: the material that they're putting out of the website is

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Speaker 2: a deliberately dishonest chart trying to create. Here's the thing. Actually,

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Speaker 2: over the last eleven years there was the CPI did

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Speaker 2: go up a little bit more than the property tax levey,

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Speaker 2: but only a little bit, so they could have said

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Speaker 2: that it went out more than that. But they have

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Speaker 2: to stack the deck by creating this chart to make

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Speaker 2: it look like it went up every year more than that,

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Speaker 2: and that the end result it's a way higher in

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Speaker 2: carease rather than the mere one percent that I cited

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Speaker 2: a annualized basis. And again, I just there's there was

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Speaker 2: a time in which government officials, the local governments would

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Speaker 2: not do this, that they have an obligation to be

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Speaker 2: honest with the public with regard to their funds. We're

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Speaker 2: in an error right now, and this is you know,

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Speaker 2: they lefties at Riley's finally leave it as mayor, thank god.

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Speaker 2: In Waukeshaw, they've had two lefty mayors in a row

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Speaker 2: in that city, even though the city votes Republican. The

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Speaker 2: city administrator, they go through those things like it's gonna say,

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Speaker 2: like I go through socks, but that's a bad analogy.

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Speaker 2: I hang on to socks until there's a hole. That's

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Speaker 2: my theory on it. Isn't that your theory? You toss

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Speaker 2: them before the whole? No, I think your wife mid

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01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: tosses it before them. Well exactly, I do not know

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01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 2: the whole. That's when they get tossed. But the level

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Speaker 2: of being a pathetic single guy is to wear them

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Speaker 2: even after the hole. I am not at that level,

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Speaker 2: So I don't really go through socks that fast. So

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Speaker 2: that's the point that I am making is is that

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Speaker 2: I was mentioned in the city managed they've had a lot.

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Speaker 2: I'm brown is rather new. Just you know, go out

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01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 2: there and we've seen and you know the what's the term?

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Speaker 2: This whole notion was created by the school referendums that

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Speaker 2: they put out there. They're never honest about that. They

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Speaker 2: never include the borrowing costs. They always work with the

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Speaker 2: numbers and massage them to try to do a cell

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Speaker 2: job on them. That's what the City of Wakashaw is

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Speaker 2: doing here make the case for creating the garbage fee. Again,

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Speaker 2: whether it's legal or not, I don't know, but you

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Speaker 2: don't have to go and create this chart. That's a

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Speaker 2: load of crap. And again I credit a listener who

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Speaker 2: sitting at home read the chart and he noticed this.

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Speaker 2: My guess is because most people don't look at this

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Speaker 2: and they're not analytical, and who's going to go in

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Speaker 2: there and see what the actual number is? Never picked

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Speaker 2: up on it, but this guy did. If walk a

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Speaker 2: Shaw retracts, apologizes and if necessary, I may file an

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Speaker 2: open record's request to see who designed this so we

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Speaker 2: know which particular city employee is an absolute lying piece

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01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 2: of you know what or not. And if they want

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Speaker 2: to say that the guy is just so stupid, well,

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Speaker 2: if you're in charge of making grafts and you're too

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01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 2: stupid and know how to make a draft, maybe rather

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Speaker 2: than raise the garbage sheet, we should just get rid

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Speaker 2: of you. Add with that podcast us now quite a

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Speaker 2: good one. I think, what do you mean very good?

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01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 2: I said up very I only said good myself. I

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01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: think you should say it was a great one. Here's

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Speaker 2: a great one. You didn't even say that with any

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Speaker 2: sense of enthusiasm. What's the There's a lot of rotten

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Speaker 2: ones out there. Just scroll around and start listening to them.

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Speaker 2: You want to know really bad one? I think she

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Speaker 2: stopped doing it. The Michelle Obama one was really really

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Speaker 2: all right by.

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