WEBVTT - Mark Belling Podcast #105: Duh: schools learn that cellphone bans work, Soros pulls the plug on a legendary Wisconsin radio station, our weekly football preview and a focus on the future: Paul leaves and Mark lays out the future of the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>I want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Open today's podcast, the last of twenty twenty five, the

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<v Speaker 3>last of the twenty twenty five season, the last of

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<v Speaker 3>the first season of the Mark Belling Podcast with one

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<v Speaker 3>of those stories I talk all the time going back

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<v Speaker 3>through my radio career and doing the podcast. The topics

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<v Speaker 3>that I think are the best ones to do are

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<v Speaker 3>the ones that in and of themselves are interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>But they explain all sorts of other.

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<v Speaker 3>Things beyond the specific topic itself. We now have the

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<v Speaker 3>ability to do a side by side comparison of what

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<v Speaker 3>happens when you ban cell phones and schools. First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>some schools do and some schools don't, so you can

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<v Speaker 3>compare that. But secondly, many of the schools that have

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<v Speaker 3>banned cell phones had not banned them prior to this.

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<v Speaker 3>You can compare that against that. Almost everyone will know

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<v Speaker 3>what the result was before I even tell you everything

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<v Speaker 3>has improved in the schools that ban cell phones in

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<v Speaker 3>the classroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that begs a question and we're going to dive.

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<v Speaker 3>Into that as we dive into today's podcast. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>This story appears, and it is Wall Street Journal.

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<v Speaker 3>New evidence shows that bans on phones in classrooms work well. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>no kidding, but let's dive into and by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>you can find that with the Wall Street Journal. We

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<v Speaker 3>always hesitate to link those pieces up because sometimes they

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<v Speaker 3>end up behind a paywall. Every now and then they'll

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<v Speaker 3>give you free stories out there for free. But if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to find it, it is on the Wall

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<v Speaker 3>Street Journal, online, WSJ, dot comm or and the prededition.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to share some paragraphs from the story

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<v Speaker 3>written by Julie Jargon. A large urban district in Florida

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<v Speaker 3>saw an increase in student test scores. A smaller school

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<v Speaker 3>district in rural California experienced a dramatic decline in student

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<v Speaker 3>behavioral problems. The reason for both the absence of smartphones

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<v Speaker 3>in the classroom. Early data on the effects of school

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<v Speaker 3>of phone bands confirm what teachers and administrators have long

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<v Speaker 3>suspected that phones in the classrooms were the primary culprit

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<v Speaker 3>behind bad behavior and low engagement.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote.

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<v Speaker 3>When you have two hundred and sixty seven incidents of

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<v Speaker 3>threats and physical injury in the first ten weeks of

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<v Speaker 3>a school year, that's a problem, said April Moore, superintendent

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<v Speaker 3>of the Sierra Sans Unified School District near California's Mojave Desert,

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<v Speaker 3>of last year's disciplinary problems, students were using their phones

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<v Speaker 3>to plan bathroom vaping meetups, gossip sessions, and fights. When

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<v Speaker 3>behaviors escalate in the invisible space, we can't prevent them

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<v Speaker 3>or react as fast, said More, who presides over a

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<v Speaker 3>district of about five thousand students. Since district wide ban

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<v Speaker 3>on cell phone use during instructional class time went into

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<v Speaker 3>effect this fall, student behavior as time around, and they

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<v Speaker 3>go into some of the numbers, and the story goes

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<v Speaker 3>on and lays out all sorts of other anecdotes did.

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<v Speaker 3>As I say, as somebody who's not involved in running

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<v Speaker 3>a school, it's just the most obvious thing, the idea

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<v Speaker 3>of the kids right sitting there during school with their

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<v Speaker 3>cellph instance, says, well, some of them can't use them

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<v Speaker 3>during class. Okay, you can say that they're using them

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<v Speaker 3>during class. To once again quote Francis McDorman from Fargo, well,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you know these kids are pretty good at

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<v Speaker 3>concealing the fact that they're using them. Secondly, even if

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<v Speaker 3>they're only using them during the breaks they can cause all,

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<v Speaker 3>there's just zero upside for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Furthermore, we also know that there's no need for.

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<v Speaker 3>It, given the fact that just about every student in

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<v Speaker 3>the history of students until about fifteen to twenty years

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<v Speaker 3>ago didn't have a Snell phone with them in the

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<v Speaker 3>classroom because they didn't exhaust. The point though in bringing

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<v Speaker 3>this up is I think every school in America knows

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<v Speaker 3>that banning them is a good idea, and now some

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<v Speaker 3>have done so to one extent or another. As I say,

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<v Speaker 3>some you're required to turn the phone in at the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning of the day and you don't get it to

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day. Others the kids can only

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<v Speaker 3>use them during lunch, and so on their varying degrees

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<v Speaker 3>of the kinds of bands.

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<v Speaker 2>That you have.

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<v Speaker 3>I think everybody knows the bands are a good idea,

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<v Speaker 3>but the fact that not all schools ban them indicates

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<v Speaker 3>just how much we've lost any type of common sense

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<v Speaker 3>in anything the government runs at all. If banning cell

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<v Speaker 3>phones is a good idea, why haven't we banned them everywhere?

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<v Speaker 3>And the answer is because sometimes parents object, sometimes students

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<v Speaker 3>raise a ruckus about it. And the third one of

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<v Speaker 3>the story addresses this. One of the downsides of banning

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<v Speaker 3>them is if you find a student is violating the ban,

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<v Speaker 3>they're terrified of what to do with them.

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<v Speaker 2>List. Man, you've got a kid who just he's got

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna go.

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<v Speaker 3>He has his phone and he's just gonna bring it

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<v Speaker 3>in every day despite them, What are you gonna expel

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<v Speaker 3>him for that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they don't have.

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<v Speaker 3>The willingness to do it, so they would just assume

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<v Speaker 3>look the other way and not address it. The whole

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<v Speaker 3>area of cell phones, I just think as smartphones is

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<v Speaker 3>really the better term. And I think that this is

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<v Speaker 3>in direct proportion to your age people have become. It's

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<v Speaker 3>almost like they're mortified if they don't have them. You

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<v Speaker 3>watch some of the YouTube videos of police arresting people,

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<v Speaker 3>the thing that they freak out that most about is

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<v Speaker 3>losing their cell phone. No, maybe maybe they're sometimes concerned

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<v Speaker 3>that there's damning information on there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're terrified if they can't have it. They can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul said, if his wife forgets it, it's like the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the world. My own My own end of

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<v Speaker 3>the world is only if I think I've lost it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that actually is the end of the world. But say,

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<v Speaker 3>knowing that you've forgotten it, I actually needed here at

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<v Speaker 3>work because we can't log into our computer system without

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<v Speaker 3>having the authenticator in place, so I would need it

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<v Speaker 3>to do that. But another reason that I bring it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it has a greater impact on kids

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<v Speaker 3>because having the phone with them twenty four to seven

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<v Speaker 3>is the only life that they know. But if they

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<v Speaker 3>have them, they're going to use them. So to me,

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<v Speaker 3>the takeaway from this is and it's it's like everything else,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't argue anymore that they don't There isn't a

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<v Speaker 3>benefit in banning the phones. Yet there are some districts

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<v Speaker 3>that still don't do it. In some cases, the parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to text their kids all day in school.

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<v Speaker 3>There are others that say that, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>keep track of what's going on. It's all crap. Your

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<v Speaker 3>daughters are pushing thirty now, almost, aren't they. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the smartphones were around when they were in school, but

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<v Speaker 3>the smartphones just weren't as smart. But like, texting came

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<v Speaker 3>in before browsing access and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But were they.

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<v Speaker 3>Allowed when they were still in school to have the

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean it kind of was your banned and

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<v Speaker 3>then they became ubiquitous and they were allowed and now

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<v Speaker 3>it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Mish mash all over the place.

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<v Speaker 3>As the story discusses, I want to move now to

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<v Speaker 3>another story. In fact, I have companion stories that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to put together and make a point both in

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<v Speaker 3>and of themselves are interested. This story is reported on

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<v Speaker 3>Fox six. It has to do with a seventeen year

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<v Speaker 3>old who she was at a bar in a parking lot.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unclear if she was ever in the bar. A

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<v Speaker 3>security guard attempted to stop her from driving because she

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<v Speaker 3>was drunk. She gets in the car and drives, and

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<v Speaker 3>what do you think she does? She hits the security

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<v Speaker 3>guard you just talk about somebody doing the right thing

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<v Speaker 3>and getting burned for it instead of looking the other

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<v Speaker 3>way and letting her go off and do whatever it

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<v Speaker 3>is that she is.

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<v Speaker 2>She gets hit, Let me coo.

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<v Speaker 3>From the Fox six story, a seventeen year old Milwaukee

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<v Speaker 3>girl is facing multiple felony charges. Prosecutors say she drove

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<v Speaker 3>intoxic kid, struck a security guard, and fled the scene

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<v Speaker 3>outside a Northwest Side bar. What we know, here's what

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<v Speaker 3>we know. The accused is Juliette Perez. She's in charge

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<v Speaker 3>of the following injury by intoxicated use of a vehicle

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<v Speaker 3>causing great bodily harm, knowingly operating a motor vehicle without

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<v Speaker 3>valid license, causing great bodily harm, hit and run, resolving

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<v Speaker 3>a great bodily arm. The incident oft happened he on

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<v Speaker 3>one fifty am Saturday, December twenty seventh, So this would

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<v Speaker 3>have been this past Friday night turning into Saturday morning

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<v Speaker 3>at the Prime Social Lounge. It's seventy sixth in Good Hope,

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<v Speaker 3>where Milwaukee Police were conducting tavern patrol.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's key.

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<v Speaker 3>The police were on the seat. Now, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>anything about this club, but chances are draws a very

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<v Speaker 3>large crowd and maybe a crowd that's bordering on underage,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're at the scene of this bar closing, and

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<v Speaker 3>one fifty is approaching closing times throughout the the scene

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<v Speaker 3>of the bar doing that. So there's all the kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of things that would happen. You have people dispersing from

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<v Speaker 3>a large crowd and police are already on the scene.

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<v Speaker 3>According to the complaint, officers say they saw a security

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<v Speaker 3>guard and by the way, sometimes there's video of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>In this case, cops actually saw it. Saw a security

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<v Speaker 3>guard speaking with the driver of a blue sedan when

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<v Speaker 3>a commotion broke out. Two security guards were then seen

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<v Speaker 3>lying on the ground in the parking lot as the

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<v Speaker 3>vehicle drove away. Police stopped the car a short distance

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<v Speaker 3>away and found three occupants inside, none of whom were

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<v Speaker 3>in the driver's seat. Say, this tells me that they're

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<v Speaker 3>street wise. Amazing none of them are in the driver's seat. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>if this was one of musk cars, maybe you could

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<v Speaker 3>claim that it was autonomous. By the way, you know

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<v Speaker 3>that that's what's gonna happen is these people are gonna

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<v Speaker 3>when people do hit and runs, they're gonna claim the

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<v Speaker 3>car did the hitting and the car just kept on

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<v Speaker 3>with They were claiming it all anyway, none of we're in

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<v Speaker 3>the driver set, which means whoever the driver was scurried

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<v Speaker 3>and got in the back seat. They were able to

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<v Speaker 3>identify that Perez was identified as one of the rear

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<v Speaker 3>seat passengers. Officers say she was unbuckled, sitting on a

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<v Speaker 3>child's car seat. I would probably indicate that she scrambled

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<v Speaker 3>for the first place that she could fight, and she's

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<v Speaker 3>sitting out a car seat, had slurred speech, was unable

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<v Speaker 3>to maintain balance without assistance. She initially refused to identify

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<v Speaker 3>herself and later attempted to leave the traffic stop before

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<v Speaker 3>being detained purd the complaint. Investigators say one of the

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<v Speaker 3>security guards to Whole police he was struck by the

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<v Speaker 3>st anne while trying to stop the driver from leaving

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<v Speaker 3>because she appeared too intoxicated to drive. Surveillance video from

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<v Speaker 3>the bar allegedly shows Perez entering the driver's seat of

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<v Speaker 3>the sedan before it drives off.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so you have.

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<v Speaker 3>A by the way the story goes on, They found

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<v Speaker 3>numerous empty bottles and cans and so on inside the vehicle.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things that happens at a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>these clubs that attract a younger crowd is the people

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<v Speaker 3>who can't come in will hang around in the parking

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<v Speaker 3>lot and drink in the cars. There also, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the problems that you see with regard to a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of these bars, where they have heavy security presents and

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<v Speaker 3>metal detectors and so on, doesn't do anything about the guns.

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<v Speaker 2>That are in the cars. I don't know if there were.

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<v Speaker 3>Guns in this car, but there's a problem that the

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<v Speaker 3>bars simply can't control what's happening in the vehicle that

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<v Speaker 3>is outside the bar. And again I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>she ever got inside the bar or not. And she's

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<v Speaker 3>way under the age. She's seventeen years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Now update on.

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<v Speaker 3>The story, and this is where I wan to tie it.

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<v Speaker 3>End of the second story. She's facing, as I said,

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<v Speaker 3>three felonies. She doesn't have a driver's license, she was drunk,

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<v Speaker 3>way under age. Then she ran into him badly injured

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<v Speaker 3>a security guard who was trying to stop her from

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<v Speaker 3>driving away. Two thousand dollars cash bond, Milwaukee County, the

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<v Speaker 3>Commissioner's Burry Phillips, two grand I don't know anything about

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<v Speaker 3>her family situation, boyfriends and so on. Two grand is

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<v Speaker 3>usually something that most people can dredge up. She gets out,

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<v Speaker 3>what are the chances that she's not right back drinking

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<v Speaker 3>and driving again?

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<v Speaker 2>Two grand? She could have killed him.

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<v Speaker 3>Now this story it's some Wakershaw County. A few days ago,

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<v Speaker 3>the Wakershaw County Courthouse received a telephone threat that the

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<v Speaker 3>courthouse was going to be shot up. Now, as I've

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<v Speaker 3>explained any number of times with cases like this, almost

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<v Speaker 3>never are these threats real. When somebody does go into

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<v Speaker 3>a public building and shoot it up, which sadly happens

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<v Speaker 3>now all the time, they don't usually announce in advance

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<v Speaker 3>that they're going to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you do that.

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<v Speaker 3>If you intend to go to a building and shoot

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<v Speaker 3>it up, you're going to try to get into the

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<v Speaker 3>building before anybody knows that you're there so you can

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<v Speaker 3>shoot it up. So there's every reason to believe that

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<v Speaker 3>the guy was bluffing. However, given that so many people

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<v Speaker 3>are now so many cases that we have of public

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<v Speaker 3>shootings like this, they can't take it as cavalierly as

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<v Speaker 3>I would take it in the past. I mean, even

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<v Speaker 3>when I was a kid, you'd have bomb threats and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just you're yawn because there's never a bomb.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't yawn anymore. Let me quote from the report.

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<v Speaker 3>It's again a five to six report. A seventeen year

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<v Speaker 3>old Milwaukee team is charged with allegedly calling in shooting

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<v Speaker 3>threats to the Walkershaw County Courthouse, prompting a lockout. He

0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.600
<v Speaker 3>did have a pending case in Walkershaw County, not surprisingly

0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.960
<v Speaker 3>in the court. A seventeen year old Milwaukee is facing

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<v Speaker 3>felony charges after authority say he called in shooting threats

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<v Speaker 3>to the Walkershaw County Courthouse, prompting a large scale law

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<v Speaker 3>enforcement response and a lockdown of the county comm According

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<v Speaker 3>to the Wakashaw County Sheriff's Department, just after six thirty

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<v Speaker 3>pm Friday, again another story from last Friday, the Wakershaw

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<v Speaker 3>Kuntie Communication Center received a call from a person claiming

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<v Speaker 3>he was outside the courthouse with a gun. The County

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<v Speaker 3>Justice Center was immediately placed on lockdown. Now, fortunately, six

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<v Speaker 3>thirty pm, My guess is that all the courts and

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<v Speaker 3>the offices were shut down for the day. Plus it's

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<v Speaker 3>the day after Christmas. Thankfully, this wasn't like two o'clock

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<v Speaker 3>on a weekday afternoon when zillions of people in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Continuing investigators say the caller allowed them to hear what

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<v Speaker 3>sounded like gunfire in the background. So the guy's making

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<v Speaker 3>the threats now it starts to shoot off the gun,

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<v Speaker 3>so it sounds like there's a shooting there. In other words,

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<v Speaker 3>the threat is going to be taken even more seriously

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<v Speaker 3>because now you're actually hearing somewhere there's gunfire. Well, the

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<v Speaker 3>gunshots later turned out not to be real. He apparently

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<v Speaker 3>had an audio track. The response was nine on one.

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<v Speaker 3>Calls were released Tuesday, December thirtieth. That's yesterday, and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>clean it up a little bit, but these are among

0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.600
<v Speaker 3>the things that he said. I'll shove that great draco

0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.520
<v Speaker 3>down your effing mouth and blow your head off. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>mike my ass come in there and shoot y'all. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>outside the courthouse. Pull up to my crib. See what's

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen. I'm gonna shoot you all. Investigators were

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<v Speaker 3>able to identify the caller as Cameron, Gats and Staples

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<v Speaker 3>in the nearly twenty minute nine to eleven recording. Five

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<v Speaker 3>six has obtained the recording.

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<v Speaker 2>You could find it.

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<v Speaker 3>Another side authority said The Milwaukee address was Gaston Staples's

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<v Speaker 3>group home, a location police had responded to before. Milwaukee

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<v Speaker 3>County prosecutors say the teenager got into an argument with

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<v Speaker 3>a caretaker there in September. Police say Gaston Staples became

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<v Speaker 3>aggressive and hit a security guard in the eye at

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<v Speaker 3>an officer in the face. The story goes on, So

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<v Speaker 3>now in this case, well, the guy caused the ruckus.

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<v Speaker 3>There are separate charges in Milwaukee County for that because

0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.199
<v Speaker 3>the group home was there. I'm dealing now only with

0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:15.400
<v Speaker 3>the Wakashaw County charge. He didn't actually do anything, as

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<v Speaker 3>opposed to the case of the seventeen year old. By

0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:22.199
<v Speaker 3>the way, they're both seventeen. The seventeen year old who

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<v Speaker 3>while drunk ran over a security guard who was trying

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<v Speaker 3>to stop her from driving because he was concerned that

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<v Speaker 3>she was too drunk. That seventeen year old only got

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<v Speaker 3>a two thousand dollars bond. This guy in Waukeshaw County

0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:39.720
<v Speaker 3>Circuit Court has a five thousand dollars cash bond. I

0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.679
<v Speaker 3>am often very critical of the Waukashaw County Court commissioners.

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<v Speaker 3>In this case, I want to praise the court commissioner

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<v Speaker 3>who are coming up with a proper bond. Daniel Week,

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<v Speaker 3>I think of the two, certainly, the Milwaukee County case

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<v Speaker 3>is the more serious. Both are serious, they're both felties

0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.480
<v Speaker 3>with The Milwaukee County case is more serious. A security

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<v Speaker 3>guard who's all banged up, beaten, badly hurt as a

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<v Speaker 3>result of being hit by a drunk drive ever fleeing

0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.000
<v Speaker 3>the sea and who shouldn't have been drawnk to have

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<v Speaker 3>been driving, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, as opposed

0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:10.320
<v Speaker 3>to the other, I've got another set of candem stories.

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<v Speaker 3>They have one thing in common, the controversy over what

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<v Speaker 3>stuff goes where.

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<v Speaker 2>The first.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a proposal in New Berlin. Many of you

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<v Speaker 3>have heard of the Milwaukee Rescue Mission. It's a homeless

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<v Speaker 3>shelter and more. It's faith based and they have very

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<v Speaker 3>strict rules. It's located at nineteenth and Wells. Back in

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<v Speaker 3>the early dages, the days of WYS and we were

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<v Speaker 3>at the WIS and TV building. It was kitty cornered

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<v Speaker 3>from us. The Rescue Mission is a large facility and

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<v Speaker 3>is highly respected in Milwaukee. They run that place as

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<v Speaker 3>well as it could possibly.

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<v Speaker 2>Be run run.

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<v Speaker 3>They have numerous rules no booze, no this, no that curfew.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to be in by a certain time, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't come in. They don't tolerate any craft segregation on

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<v Speaker 3>the basis of your gender, to avoid any kind of

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:10.520
<v Speaker 3>it's a class operation, and they provide services obviously for

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<v Speaker 3>people who a are homeless or have just gotten so

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<v Speaker 3>screwed up that because of drugs or alcohol or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>that they got nowhere to go. What they can't do

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<v Speaker 3>Harvard is use while they're there. The Rescue Mission wants

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<v Speaker 3>to open kind of a satellite complex in New Berlin.

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<v Speaker 3>It would not be the same as the Rescue Mission

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<v Speaker 3>in Milwaukee. What it would be is long term housing

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<v Speaker 3>for people that are essentially in recovery. The location is

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<v Speaker 3>for those of you who don't know the area, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>do my best to describe it, but Moorland Road is

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<v Speaker 3>just a main thoroughfare on Wakashaw County and it runs

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<v Speaker 3>north and south all the way to Brookfield. This is

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<v Speaker 3>in the area well south on Moreland Road, where it

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<v Speaker 3>is near Interstate forty three.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a huge interchange. Even you know that interchange.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if you're to have a facility like this anywhere,

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<v Speaker 3>it's ideal because it's a mostly commercial area. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>saying there's no residential nearby, but there's like lots of

0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:21.160
<v Speaker 3>big box stores, fast food restaurants and so on. That's

0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:26.000
<v Speaker 3>where the Rescue Mission wants to build this satellite facility, which,

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<v Speaker 3>as I say, is residential. It's not a lockdown facility,

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<v Speaker 3>just like the Rescue Mission in Milwaukee is not lockdown.

0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 3>They lock you out, you can't come in after a

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<v Speaker 3>certain point, but you can come and go at the

0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.200
<v Speaker 3>Rescue Mission. Well, this would be a residential, but it's

0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:41.800
<v Speaker 3>for people that are in recovery, and they would probably

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<v Speaker 3>offer the same kinds of services that they offer in Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 3>Help you get off of booze and help you get

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<v Speaker 3>off of drugs and so on. That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Preliminary approval has been given to this in New Berlin,

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<v Speaker 3>but a number of residents believe that this thing is

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<v Speaker 3>being rammed through and they don't like the notion of

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<v Speaker 3>a large residential complex coming in to this area. I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen the artist renderings. It looks exactly like all any

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<v Speaker 3>of these other kind of generic treatment centers or even

0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:16.040
<v Speaker 3>medical buildings that have housing and so on, and it

0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:17.359
<v Speaker 3>would seem to me that if you're going to put

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<v Speaker 3>it anywhere in the suburbs, it's about a perfect location

0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.359
<v Speaker 3>because it's in it's not stuck in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>a residential area. It's not a group woman, it's big,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's in an area where there's just a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people. In general, some of the residents are expressing concern. Now,

0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:36.520
<v Speaker 3>the residents have a right to offer the input to

0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:38.560
<v Speaker 3>their community. I want to offer some context on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe.

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<v Speaker 3>That it is not correct, not just Milwaukee, but throughout

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<v Speaker 3>all of urban America that every shelter, halfway house, and

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<v Speaker 3>so on be stuck in central of cities. If for

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<v Speaker 3>no other reason, then a huge portion of the population

0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.600
<v Speaker 3>didn't emerge from those neighborhoods. The people who get screwed

0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 3>up on alcohol and some one are as likely to

0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:16.439
<v Speaker 3>come from downtown Milwaukee as they are from Muskego or

0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:25.159
<v Speaker 3>Brookfield alreadywhere else. In addition to that, if you have

0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:27.959
<v Speaker 3>people that are in a legitimate recovery facility that are

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<v Speaker 3>trying to provide proper services here, why do they all

0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 3>have to live in crappy neighborhoods. If there's an outfit

0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 3>that's out there raising private funds in order to provide

0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:44.000
<v Speaker 3>services with compassion. They should be given the benefit of

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<v Speaker 3>the doubt on locating them anywhere. Again, the argument I've

0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 3>made with regard to the data centers is we have

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<v Speaker 3>to get these data centers, but that doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 3>we shouldn't give consideration to where the data centers are located.

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<v Speaker 2>And my criticism is.

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<v Speaker 3>Entirely of Evers on this he's provided and trying to

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 3>put them here. The more they have to obviously have

0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:08.359
<v Speaker 3>access to transportation because zillions of people are going to

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:10.639
<v Speaker 3>work there, but you want to put them kind of

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<v Speaker 3>on the peripheries of towns and maybe near the freeway

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<v Speaker 3>or something or another, or near a more industrial area

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<v Speaker 3>and away from et cetera. I get the concern of

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<v Speaker 3>the residence of New Berlin because once you start putting

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<v Speaker 3>in big apartment complexes in any community, and if there's

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<v Speaker 3>treatment facilities associated, it can cause deterioration of the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 3>I will tell you, however, that when we were over

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<v Speaker 3>at nineteenth and Wells in Milwaukee, which is a neighborhood

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<v Speaker 3>that was kind of it's on the it's not it's

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<v Speaker 3>on the edge of the inner city. It's on the

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<v Speaker 3>edge of market. It's kind of the crossroads of everything

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 3>over there. You could not have had a better neighbor

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:55.879
<v Speaker 3>than the Rescue Mission because they don't tolerate any crap

0:23:55.920 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 3>from the people there. But it's an interesting diversity that

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 3>they're going to have in Some of the residents don't

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 3>believe that the community should be ramroding it through. Next

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 3>there's another land used controversy that I think is quite

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:11.360
<v Speaker 3>interesting and appropriate. We're recording this podcast and releasing it.

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<v Speaker 2>On New Year's Eve.

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<v Speaker 3>Traditionally, v spot in Milwaukee on New Year's Eve for

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<v Speaker 3>decades was Victor's, which closed last year on New Year's Eve.

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<v Speaker 3>It was their last night after being in continuous operation

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<v Speaker 3>at that location since nineteen sixty four, and years earlier

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<v Speaker 3>at another site.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been closed.

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<v Speaker 3>The family had disputes, they sold the property, they sold,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's been nothing in there for a year. For

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<v Speaker 3>those of you who don't know the area, it's been

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<v Speaker 3>on the same location in North Van burenu Straeted Milwaukee

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<v Speaker 3>since nineteen sixty four. Over the last several years, as

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 3>many of you know, there has been a housing boom

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 3>in downtown Milwaukee. The Lower east Side and the third ward.

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<v Speaker 3>This place would be where kind of downtown on the

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Lower east Side come to together. And over the many years,

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<v Speaker 3>there was never there's always there are always apartment rental

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:10.919
<v Speaker 3>houses behind Victors. But since all of this, a brand

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<v Speaker 3>new high rise apartment building is opened across the street.

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<v Speaker 3>Two blocks down is the Ascent, a very high end

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 3>apartment complex. Another blockdown is the seven to seventy seven,

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 3>which is a high rise apartment complex, extremely high end

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 3>that Northwestern developed. There is someone who has put in

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<v Speaker 3>an application to open a bar at the old Victor's site,

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<v Speaker 3>and there is overwhelming opposition from the neighborhood. There's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a hearing in front of the Milwaukee Common

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<v Speaker 3>Council's Liquor License Committee on January sixth. Now I pick

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 3>up on this because I'm from the area and you're

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 3>just hearing it. I don't live that close to where

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 3>the Victor's property was, but I live close enough that

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 3>I hear from all of the people that are involved

0:25:58.119 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 3>in this, and it's become a big to do and

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:03.680
<v Speaker 3>down to Milwaukee. The opponents are all the people that

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:06.679
<v Speaker 3>you would figure. First of all, the apartment building across

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 3>the Street, which is new Land Enterprise. That's the Gakman

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 3>family and their partner, Whickman. They're obviously opposed. They probably

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:19.719
<v Speaker 3>enjoy not having a bar that's open until two o'clock

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:21.679
<v Speaker 3>in the morning five nights a week or whatever it was.

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Victors used to be seven nights a week across the

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 3>street from them. They're opposed, as are the majority of

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 3>the residents who live there being opposed because they don't

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 3>want to have all the commotion that occurs at the bar.

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 3>In addition to that, there's a high school, Saint John

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 3>and Tino, which is a black and a half away.

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 2>They're opposed.

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Katz, who owns lots of the smaller apartment house metals

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 3>all around the area.

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 2>He's opposed.

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Pretty Much everybody in the vicinity is opposed. The aldermen

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 3>from the district, Bob Bauman is opposed, and Bob Bauman

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 3>is opposed because every one of his constituents is opposed.

0:26:57.400 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing. For six decades there's.

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Been a bar operating on that location. It's not like

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 3>the people would not be used to a bar. And

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 3>in the case of the old Victors, an extremely popular

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 3>bar that had a huge late night crowd back in

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 3>the old days, a huge late night crowd, damn near

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 3>every night of the wake. The aldermen from the district,

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Bob Bauman, who opposes it, said yeah, but that Victor's

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 3>is closed. Of course, Victors had the benefit of the

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 3>doubt and being able to continue to operate there because

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 3>they were there before almost all these new people came in.

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 3>But now you've had a building that's empty. This is

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:42.479
<v Speaker 3>a brand new way application to put something in at

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 3>a brand new site, from a brand new ownership group, etc.

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:47.679
<v Speaker 2>They start from square.

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 3>One and they don't get a benefit of the doubt.

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 2>The city coach is going to have to decide what

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.640
<v Speaker 2>to do here now.

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 3>I think one of the things that you consider is

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 3>the track record of the operator. And it's one of

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 3>those deals where somebody owns the building, somebody else is leasing,

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.640
<v Speaker 3>and the leasing hires a manager and the manager apparently

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 3>runs a bar on the south side where there's been

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of incident stuff and so on. I

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 3>can tell you, as somebody who's not unfamiliar with that place,

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 3>which is generally bars.

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 2>And so on.

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Everything has gotten worse over the years, and you see

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 3>it on Water Street and shootings almost never occurred in

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 3>the past.

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Shooters occur all the time.

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Now there's nothing bars can do about it, because, as

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 3>I say, almost all of them make sure that you

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 3>can't bring guns in. But what do you do about

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 3>the parking lots? And then as we see on Water Street,

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 3>this new thing, and it's just it's the strangest thing

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 3>for me, and I can't relate because when I was

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 3>a kid, the drinking age is eighteen. I asked Paul

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 3>this all the time because I always forget. Was it

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 3>eighteen when you were a kid. Yes, it turned twenty

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 3>one right after them, so we both experienced, well, okay,

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 3>you're eighteen, you can go into a bar, which we

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 3>could do. But the thing now is for people under

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 3>twenty one who can't get into the bar, they go

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 3>and hang around outside the bar. It's a huge issue

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 3>on Water Street. It's huge to a lot of these places.

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 3>They're in the cars doing the pot in the form

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 3>of edibles. They usually don't smoke because the cops are

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 3>patrolling out there, or they're drinking like crazy in the

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 3>bar and maybe somebody's designated. The police do what they

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 3>can to hang around these places. But in Milwaukee, the

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 3>cops can't be around all the bars all the time. Now,

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 3>the people that are applying for the license there application

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 3>says Vix and van Bura on a takeoff on the

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 3>old victor's name, and they spill Vix like the cough

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 3>dur Bicks, so they want to take advantage of the

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 3>old name. They say that they're going to do a

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 3>sports bar, but everybody assumes that the place is going

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 3>to be a late night club that has a hip

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 3>hop component to it, late at night, et cetera, because

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 3>how else can you make money late at night other

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 3>than operating that My guess is that the alderman from

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 3>the district and the residents would like to have a

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 3>restaurant that opens at nine o'clock that closes at nine

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 3>or ten at night, which that whole area surrounded by

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 3>and doesn't have the same issue. But one of the

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 3>things the city we'll have to address is that we're

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 3>going to discriminate against these new potential operators by telling

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 3>them that they can't operate a business at a site

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 3>that somebody else did for sixty years. Or are you

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 3>going to tell the neighbors who are moving into a

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 3>community one of the only areas of Milwaukee where there's

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 3>been residential growth, that we're gonna let somebody with no

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 3>track record come in and make your lives miserable every night.

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Two very different land used decisions. In both cases, the

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 3>municipality will have to make a decision. I have no

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 3>opinion on either. Just share the story, all right now,

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 3>this story I'm I'm gonna say this is unprecedented, but

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 3>it's close. Paul and I are in the radio business.

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 3>I of course now I'm a podcast through but I

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 3>still work for a company that is in the radio business,

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 3>and I do my show from a radio studio.

0:30:57.880 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Are you used to doing?

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Paul's doing still doing and will continue to do

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 3>radio programs with the weekend shows that here on WISI.

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Both of us have been in radio our entire lives.

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Everyone knows that radio is one of the industries that

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 3>is contracting for the same reason that everything else that's

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 3>been contracting because of technology. Streaming and all of the

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 3>podcasting which I now do are competing with radio. And

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 3>radio companies have largely responded to this by cutting spending,

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 3>having fewer personnel, fewer on air people, etc. This is

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 3>confronting a number of industries. There's something happening in the

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 3>story that I'm mentioning here. I'm not going to say

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 3>it never happens. What I will say is it almost

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 3>never happens in an area of any size. I don't

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 3>even think that it's happened in Milwaukee. We have a

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 3>case in the Fox Valley station that's going to shut down.

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 3>In other words, not of anything. Now Milwaukee, we have

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 3>several stations. They operate, but they're just running syndicated programming

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 3>twenty four hours a day, or they might be running

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 3>infomercials twenty four hours a day. And when those properties

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 3>have been sold, they don't sell for what they did

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 3>in the past. But there's always a value to it

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 3>because there's so many signals above. In this case, though,

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 3>they're just shutting down, which is very weird, and I

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 3>don't know if it's a sign of the times or

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 3>if they're up to something. There is reason to think

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 3>they're up to something because of who owns the company.

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 3>First of all, I'll tell you that the radio station

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 3>is WNAM Nina Manasha. Are you familiar with that station, Paul?

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 3>That was at one time just a giant, particularly before

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 3>FM radio came in. I'm up from the year in

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 3>the Fox Valley and WNAM was a big time radio station.

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Back in the sixties, they were still playing the easy

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 3>listening music when people like me were listening to top

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 3>forty stations and so on, and then in the seventies

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 3>they switched to.

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Rock and roll.

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 3>But as rock and roll listeners went over to FM,

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 3>they were basically just trying to survive ever since playing

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 3>easy listening. They didn't go to talk, which most AM

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 3>stations did and so on. But back in the day,

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 3>this was a huge station and a lot of people

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 3>who went on to become big deals worked there. I

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 3>think the most famous. He only worked there for a

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 3>few months, but I was in high school. Who was there?

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 3>I remember listening to him and the wow, this guy's

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 3>going He was only there for six months. He went

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 3>on to become a huge DJ at America. You know

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 3>Don Geronimo knows the name. He became a talk show

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 3>host and was always on that same list the top

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 3>one hundred in the country that I was as another

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 3>guy that has an almost identical name, but it's mostly

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 3>a rock and roll DJ before talk shows. He worked

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 3>at that station when he was sixteen. I still remember

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 3>here it was when that song from Greece was on

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 3>the top forty. You're the one that I want. Remember that.

0:33:54.480 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 3>Remember who did it? Yeah, that's right, that's who did it. Well, anyway,

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 3>he played it and he said, there's that awful song

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 3>from Greece by Olivia Newton, John and John Revolting. I

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 3>mean I laughed out loud because I had given what

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 3>year he worked there. I had to still be in

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 3>high school and I heard the thing. Well, a lot

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 3>of people came to that station, and it was a

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 3>big deal for anyway, Fox Eary is a major, pretty

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 3>big market. It's the second largest market in Wisconsin for

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 3>radio and television, Madison's third because the Fox really covers

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Green Bay all the way down to Ashkash and some

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 3>even Defindale. I ended a pretty good signal on the

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 3>AM dial, but they'd been running a format that doesn't

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 3>have any listeners. Who wants to listen to easy listening

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 3>music on AM radio. They were the voice of the

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:49.919
<v Speaker 3>Brewers Farm Team, the Wisconsin Cumber Rattlers. What's interesting, though,

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 3>is by just turning it off, I mean even if

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 3>you have almost we have a couple of stations in

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 3>our building that have very small listenership, but you can

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 3>still put something on and do something off of it

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 3>or sell it to somebody. Often they'll sell them and

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 3>they'll become a religious station. I don't know if they

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 3>couldn't sell it, or if they're turning it off and

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:13.959
<v Speaker 3>they have it for sale to somebody else, but they're

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 3>just shutting it down as of today. Now here's why

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm intrigued, aside from just is this what now radio

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 3>is gonna come? That stations are now on AMDAL if

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 3>they have low listenership or now not even you can't

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 3>even sell them, I don't know. The company involved is Cumulus,

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 3>which is the second largest radio company in America, the

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 3>one that WYSN, where I used to work, iHeart.

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Is the largest.

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 3>Cumulus is owned by George Soros. When Soros took over Cumulus,

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 3>I wondered what he was going to be doing with

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 3>the number of those stations. Now in Soros as a

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 3>hedge fund manage operator and so on, they tend to

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 3>slash and cut, but radio is seeing slashing and cutting

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 3>from everyone involved. But in this case, they're just turning

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 3>the damn thing off. And I don't know if that's

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 3>where all of radio is going. But boy, usually even

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 3>if you have a minuscule audience, once you already have

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.439
<v Speaker 3>the station, the costs of operating are rather limited. And

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 3>the state they own several other stations that run in

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 3>that same building, so you're just running the utilities of

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 3>keeping the transmit around. Otherwise, you can do a radio

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 3>station and almost have it operate twenty four to seven

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 3>by machine. But even in smaller communities they've got some

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:37.319
<v Speaker 3>of them. But as I say, this isn't like a

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 3>tiny station in the middle of nowhere. It is a

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 3>station that's got lots of FM stations and so on.

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 3>My guess is they probably try to sell it, and

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 3>maybe they've just decided that why pay anything anybody, any

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 3>salaries or any costs whatsoever. But that and now this

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 3>story big deal coming up in Milwaukee this weekend. As

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 3>how many people don't know that the Olympics are coming

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 3>up in a month and a half twenty five percent tone.

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Well they are.

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 3>That means the American teams are being selected right now.

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 3>They call them the trials. The American Olympic Trials for

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 3>speed skating are this weekend and they're at the Petit

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 3>in and of itself. That's interret I've got a story

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 3>here that I think they're approaching sellout for a lot

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 3>of the sessions of this, But I mean, it's just

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 3>it's a first of all, the Olympic Trials are the

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 3>biggest thing that you have other than the Olympics. It's

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 3>the championships for the United States of America because it

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:37.240
<v Speaker 3>determines the Olympic game. But secondly, the best speed skater

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 3>in the world and maybe the best, potentially the best

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 3>speed skater since Eric Heiden forty five years ago, is

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Jordan Stoles, who's from our own area and he competes

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 3>in everything. He's long track, not short track. This is

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 3>not the short track speed skating you've seen some of

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 3>that that the really really tiny ranks. Long track is

0:37:56.920 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 3>the final trials that are going to be here. So

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be an opportunity for Jordan's Stoles from

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 3>Kewaskam to star out, a chance for people to see

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 3>them that you actually have Olympic trials that a determined

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 3>the American Olympic team in a major sport going on

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:12.280
<v Speaker 3>this weekend.

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 2>All right, the.

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 3>Plan for today's program, We're going to do our football

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.839
<v Speaker 3>preview next, and then that's not normally that's the end

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 3>of our program. Then we're going to do a segment

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 3>after this one, so stick through what in which we

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 3>will allow Paul to address the fact that he's.

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I still what if I fired you right now? See

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:36.840
<v Speaker 2>what he would be able to do a farewell.

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 4>You?

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Paul said that would post the podcast. Yeah, that's the

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:42.840
<v Speaker 3>problem with firing him. First of all, there's nobody in

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:44.760
<v Speaker 3>our building today. I don't even know if it's a holiday.

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Is it a holiday or maybe.

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 3>We're like that w one a m and then just

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 3>turned everything off and I.

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Don't even know.

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't fire Paul because he's got to post

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 3>the podcast. If I could fire him, I suppose after

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 3>he post the podcast, but he wouldn't be working for

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 3>the show anymore. So we're going to do that at

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 3>segment three. So football and the coming up next on

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:11.839
<v Speaker 3>the Markepelling Podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast. We're

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 3>going to do things a little bit out of sync today. Normally,

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:17.720
<v Speaker 3>the final segment of the program is our weekly football

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 3>preview and football picks, but we're doing in a segment

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.280
<v Speaker 3>two A because I want to use the final segment

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 3>two talk about Paul's long, long time coming departure from

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 3>the program, in the future of the podcast and so on.

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 2>So we'll do that at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, I'm joined by Mike Blat of American Sports

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Analysts in Madison as we wrap up the twenty twenty

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 3>five season. First of all, we're on a recording this

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.839
<v Speaker 3>on a Wednesday. Football is kicking in right and left.

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of games, in fact going on today.

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.920
<v Speaker 3>All of the college football playoff games go Wednesday night

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 3>or Thursday. Some of you may be hearing the podcast

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:53.920
<v Speaker 3>after they've already been played. Anyway, Mike, is there anything

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 3>you'd like to share about how ASA is going to

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 3>be handling all this?

0:39:57.640 --> 0:39:57.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 4>Sure, Go to our website, wins dot com right on

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 4>the front page and get the rest of our season,

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 4>both college and NFL for ninety nine bucks. That's the

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 4>rest of our bowl games. Well, it looks like we'll

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 4>have a couple of bowl games on Thursday, and then

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 4>moving forward we'll have some and then you know, last

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 4>week in the NFL and our playoffs, we've been doing

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 4>really well. We won seven of the last eight top

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 4>games in college and we've swept the board in the

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 4>NFL two of the last three weekends, so we're rolling

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:26.799
<v Speaker 4>right now. And then get everything for ninety nine through

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 4>the Super Bowl.

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 3>And has that super Bowl record Sage str I mean,

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 3>you had some unbelievable super Bowl record forever and ever

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 3>and ever, and I don't remember anymore if that got

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.399
<v Speaker 3>all screwed up or is that still a strong thing.

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 4>It's still strong. We won last year. I don't have

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 4>it off the top of my head, but it's a

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 4>really strong record in the super Bowl.

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 3>So I mean, you get the Super Bowl included for

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 3>doing all of that. All right, let's get to this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, more college football gets more attention for

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 3>a lot of reasons, including the college semifinal games are

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 3>going on. There are four of them, and I'm going

0:40:57.920 --> 0:40:59.439
<v Speaker 3>to sure you pick out two of them. And again

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 3>I want to remind the audience that we're recording this

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 3>on Wednesday, so those of you who listen after Wednesday

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 3>or Thursday or Friday, some of these games might already

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 3>be played.

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Of the four.

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 3>Games that we chose, I wanted to cherry pick out

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.479
<v Speaker 3>and talk about the two that I guess I find

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 3>most interesting. The first is Alabama in Indiana, We've talked

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 3>about Indiana a lot this year because there are emergence

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 3>from awful to then really good to this year dominant

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 3>and maybe the best team in America. Has been a

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:33.360
<v Speaker 3>compelling story that not a lot of people have seen coming.

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 3>They play Alabama. Indiana's the number one seed in the

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 3>whole thing, so of course they're pretty hefty favorites over Alabama.

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:42.879
<v Speaker 3>Alabama is no longer the Alabama of Nick Saban, It's

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 3>the Alabama of Kailin de boor Indiana is still I

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.879
<v Speaker 3>think it still has skeptics who aren't certain how good

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.880
<v Speaker 3>they are, even though I think they've proven everything that

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 3>there is to prove. Alabama's come out of the SEC

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 3>and has played a really brutal schedule and has a

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 3>pretty good record.

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts in this game?

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you've kind of hit it on the head as

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 4>far as Indiana not always getting the respect they deserve,

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 4>and I think it's because it's kind of a weird matchup.

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:17.440
<v Speaker 4>You've got a long term college powerhouse, Alabama against an

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 4>Indiana team that's stunk just a few years ago. And

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 4>Indiana's favored by a touchdown in this game, and a

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 4>lot I've had a lot of people asking me, why

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 4>is Indiana a whole touchdown against Alabama? Well, they're better.

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they're the better team this year, and it's

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 4>not really particularly that close. I think, you know, just

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 4>to sidetrack a little bit, I think you can say Indiana,

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 4>right is the turnaround Indiana's had is possibly the quickest

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:45.360
<v Speaker 4>and best in college football history.

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 2>I agree.

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 4>They were nine and twenty seven in the three years

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 4>before Signetty came. Now they're twenty four and two with him,

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 4>and their two losses were last year at Ohio State

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 4>and at Notre Dame, who played for the national championship.

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 4>That's the only two losses under him. Remarkable turnaround. Indiana

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 4>is a better team, far better margins. If you look

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 4>at you yards for play points per game, they're beating

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 4>teams by thirty one points per game, Alabama by thirteen

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 4>points per game. It's a interesting matchup, but there's a

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 4>reason that Indiana's favored by seven. One thing to watch here,

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.719
<v Speaker 4>it's supposed to rain. It's been raining all day in

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 4>Pasadena's supposed to rain all day tomorrow, so the conditions

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 4>could be a little bit sloppy tomorrow for that game.

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the game is in the Rose Bowl. The four

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 3>games are all played in traditional ball games. In fact,

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 3>four of the Big Ball games are this weekend, and

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:36.320
<v Speaker 3>they're all the ones for the National Championship quarter finals.

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 2>The other game that I want to talk about involves.

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 3>The Big Ten is all over this, but of course

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 3>they are because there's nine hundred and fifty seven teams

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 3>in the Big Ten. One of them is one of

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 3>those newer Big Ten teams, Oregon. They play the closest

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:53.720
<v Speaker 3>thing we have to Indiana, and that's Texas Tech. Texas

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Tech has always been okay, and they've got a new coach.

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:00.760
<v Speaker 3>They hired a general manager who does all the recruiting.

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 3>The school has a lot of big time oil money alumni,

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 3>and they have a massive nil budget, and they've bought

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 3>a spectacular team. Oregon versus Texas Tech really good game.

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Texas Tech is one of those Texas schools that didn't

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 3>leave to go to the SEC. They're in the Big Twelve.

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:23.799
<v Speaker 3>Oregon did not make the Big Ten Championship game. They're

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 3>probably the third best team in the Big Ten, which

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:29.400
<v Speaker 3>is a pretty good statement given the fact that Ohio

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:32.279
<v Speaker 3>State and Indiana the only two better than them. This

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 3>is the I think the closest to the points spread matchups.

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 3>Oregon is favored by two and a half points in

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 3>the game, and I think this is the Orange Bowl

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 3>in Miami.

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:41.839
<v Speaker 2>Your thoughts on.

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 4>The game, Mic, Yes, the game's in Miami, and I

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 4>think this is the best game of the week. Of

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 4>the four. I think these two teams are evenly mashed.

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 4>I really do that. You have to factor in the

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 4>strength of schedule and try to balance the stats based

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 4>on the strength of schedule. Texas Tech has a much

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 4>weaker their strength of schedule sixty fifth compared to eleventh

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 4>for Oregon. But you know, we said before, you can

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 4>only play who's in front of you, and they you.

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Know, Texas Tech twice had to play BYU, which I

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 3>thought was a pretty good team this year, and they've

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 3>pieceded them twice. So that tells me again, you can

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:21.240
<v Speaker 3>only beat who you played. They did take the loss

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 3>to Arizona State, but they've been strowing consistently throughout the

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 3>season and they never really hit much of a speed bump.

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 4>They didn't and they've won every game by at least

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 4>twenty four points. And they beat the UYU twice and

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 4>they won Utah with a really good team they beat

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:39.400
<v Speaker 4>They destroyed Utah on the road this year at Utah,

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 4>so they've beaten the teams in front of them. Oregon's

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 4>played one playoff team. Texas Tech hasn't played a playoff team.

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 4>Oregon played one and lost by tenant home to Indiana.

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 4>Their best wins are probably at Washington and at Iowa,

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:54.799
<v Speaker 4>which are good wins, so comparable. These two teams are

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 4>very comparable, but they're a lead on both sides of

0:45:56.960 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 4>the ball. Texas Tech is top six nationally in total

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 4>offense and total defense, and Oregon is top twelve. I'd argue,

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:07.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, this is an interesting staff here. I'd argue

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 4>Tech Tech defense hasn't talked about enough. Their defense is elite, elite.

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 4>They faced three top twenty five offenses this year and

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 4>allowed eight points per game in those in those games.

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 4>Oregon has played also three top twenty five offenses, and

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:24.400
<v Speaker 4>they allowed thirty points per game in those games against

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 4>James Madison, Indiana, and USC tex better on defense, Oregon's

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 4>better on offense. It's going to be a fantastic game.

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 4>I think this is by far.

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 3>The best game of the One interesting component the Texas

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:40.280
<v Speaker 3>Tech coaching staff is obviously very good, but very inexperienced.

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 3>The head coach is an old guy, Joey Maguire, but

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:44.800
<v Speaker 3>he spent most of his career as a high school

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:48.240
<v Speaker 3>coach in the state of Texas. Their coordinators and everybody

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 3>else and their staff are guys that he's plucked out,

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 3>and almost none of them have been in anything like this. Oregon,

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 3>on the other hand, Dan Lanning ran the defense at

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Georgia for a number of years and his whole staff

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 3>is filled with coaches that have been in big games

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 3>and in big programs. I don't know if that comes

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 3>into play or not you put a game pan together

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:09.759
<v Speaker 3>with the players that you have, but I do note

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:13.719
<v Speaker 3>that there's just a tremendous experience difference in coaching in

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 3>big games that would favor Oregon. That being said, I

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of think Texas Tech's going to win. Let's turn

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:23.600
<v Speaker 3>our attention to the NFL. I say this every year.

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to say it again.

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:26.320
<v Speaker 3>The two most impossible weeks to figure out in the

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 3>NFL are the week first week and the last week.

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:33.280
<v Speaker 3>And the last week is especially impossible because the overwhelming

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 3>majority of games this weekend are meaningless and I don't

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 3>even know. In fact, let's talk about that before we

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:42.640
<v Speaker 3>get to the one game that I do want to

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 3>focus on, Mike. It kind of strikes me like a

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 3>lot of the minor ball games where you look at

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:51.160
<v Speaker 3>the opt outs of who's going to play and who

0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:53.799
<v Speaker 3>isn't going to play. That's really what the last week

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 3>of the NFL is going to be. Which teams are

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:58.719
<v Speaker 3>going to play starters, which ones are not, and so on.

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that this is just a brutal week to

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 3>figure out anything in the NFL.

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have to be really good comparison Mark as

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 4>far as the opt outs in the bowl games in

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:10.799
<v Speaker 4>this last week in the NFL, very good comparison. I mean,

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 4>it's you kind of have to focus on the last week.

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:18.319
<v Speaker 4>Focus on teams that are facing off that are eliminated

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:20.840
<v Speaker 4>because they're still playing all their starts, they're still playing

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 4>for you know, then you at least know what's going

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:25.440
<v Speaker 4>on with those or teams that are fighting for the

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 4>playoffs or playoff spots right now. Other than that, you

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 4>got to throw the rest of the rest of the

0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 4>games out here. Here's what we look for in the

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 4>last two weeks of the season, and unfortunately, this week

0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 4>nothing falls into this situation. We look for teams that

0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 4>are eliminated from the playoffs against teams that have to

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 4>win again that particular game, and we go against the

0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 4>teams that have to win. In fact, since nineteen ninety

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 4>the teams that have to win those games are sixty

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:56.280
<v Speaker 4>nine and one ten against the spread. So the teams

0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 4>that are eliminated and don't have to win cover almost

0:48:58.440 --> 0:48:59.760
<v Speaker 4>sixty two percent of the time happened.

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:01.719
<v Speaker 2>And you can see why that would be.

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, for the team that's been eliminated, this is

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:08.000
<v Speaker 3>their only playoff game, whereas the team that needs to

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 3>win and there's no pressure on that team, where the

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:13.240
<v Speaker 3>team that needs to win has a lot of pressure,

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:16.719
<v Speaker 3>plus the lines are probably really inflated to the team

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 3>that needs to win. But you're right, there are none

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 3>of those situations this weekend. There are more games like

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:25.880
<v Speaker 3>green Bay and Minnesota where Minnesota is out and green

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 3>Bay is locked in game has no impact on the

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Packers whatsoever. Minnesota, Okay, it's the last game of the season.

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 3>That's what The whole schedule is. A few games in

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:39.320
<v Speaker 3>which there's tremendous meaning and then a bunch of others

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 3>in which they're eliminated. Teams are playing teams that have

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:46.319
<v Speaker 3>already been locked into the playoffs. But there's not one

0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:49.319
<v Speaker 3>situation that, as Mike mentions, where a team has to

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 3>win to get into the playoffs. There are a couple

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 3>of games where both teams have to win to get

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:56.799
<v Speaker 3>into the playoffs, like Pittsburgh and Baltimore, but none of

0:49:56.800 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 3>the other The one game of the meaning that I

0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:01.799
<v Speaker 3>think is the most fascinating, and it really does have

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 3>importance because the number one seed in the NFC is

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:06.920
<v Speaker 3>at stake in this The loser is going to be

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 3>a wildcard team, and the winner of the game is

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 3>going to be the number one seed in the whole NFC,

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:13.600
<v Speaker 3>and that's the Seahawks and the forty nine Ers. What

0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 3>a good game. The betting odds right now favor the

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Seahawks to win the Super Bowl. But this is as

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:24.000
<v Speaker 3>wide open a year as I think has ever existed.

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:27.480
<v Speaker 3>The Rams where everybody's Super Bowl team until they've now

0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:30.319
<v Speaker 3>clunked a couple of times. Here the Rams are for

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 3>certain now a wildcard team. The Seahawks and the forty

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 3>nine Ers are playing for control of the West. Really

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 3>good game, very tight point spread the games at San

0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 3>Francisco Stadium. The Seahawks are a little bit favored on

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 3>the road. Very good game, has a lot of meeting.

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:46.880
<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:49.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, first of all, how good is the NFC West?

0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 4>My gosh, the Rams are considered by a lot of

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:53.920
<v Speaker 4>people that they be the best team in the NFL,

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:55.920
<v Speaker 4>and they might be a sixth seed, right.

0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:57.799
<v Speaker 3>They're the third place team in that they might be

0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 3>the best team, as you said, in the in the

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:03.440
<v Speaker 3>whole league and the third best team in their own division,

0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 3>which is just perverse.

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:07.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And as you said, the winner of this is

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:10.520
<v Speaker 4>the number one seed in the NFC. The loser can

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:12.560
<v Speaker 4>be the five or the sixth seed. It's gonna be

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:15.760
<v Speaker 4>Seattle or the Rams as the five or six seed.

0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 4>And just a side note, you want to be the

0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:20.319
<v Speaker 4>sixth seed. You want to be the five seed, not

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:22.520
<v Speaker 4>the sixth seed. Normally a lot of times it doesn't matter.

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:24.600
<v Speaker 4>But this year the five seed is going to play

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Carolina or Tampa Bay and the six gaed is going

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 4>to have to go to Philadelphia Chicago. They're a big

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 4>difference in that. So if San Francisco wins this game,

0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 4>they're the number one seed. They went through. They never

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:38.320
<v Speaker 4>have to leave home the Super Bowls in their stadium

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:40.600
<v Speaker 4>this year, which is an interesting side note as well.

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:44.399
<v Speaker 4>Offense against defense in this game. We mentioned it last week.

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 4>San Francisco has scored one hundred and twenty seven points

0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:49.799
<v Speaker 4>in their last three games, forty two points per game,

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:52.719
<v Speaker 4>and since Perty came back they're six and zero. They're

0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:55.640
<v Speaker 4>averaging thirty six points per game. They're playing the second

0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:58.800
<v Speaker 4>best defense in the NFL in the points per game situation,

0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:03.560
<v Speaker 4>and Seattle only allowed twenty four points twice this season,

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:08.000
<v Speaker 4>So really interesting game. Seattle's been really good on the road.

0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:09.960
<v Speaker 4>People don't realize there's seven and one on the road

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:11.880
<v Speaker 4>this year, with a two point loss at the Rams.

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 4>Going back to their last eighteen games they won on

0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:17.399
<v Speaker 4>the road, they've won sixteen of them. That's probably why

0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:19.720
<v Speaker 4>they're favorite here. They're the better team, the better defense,

0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:22.400
<v Speaker 4>But man, San Francisco's offense is humming right now. This

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 4>is going to be a fantastic game, best game of

0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:27.040
<v Speaker 4>the year, possibly in the NFL.

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:30.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and boy, I think that the team that loses

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:34.000
<v Speaker 3>it hask the turnaround and play next week. They might

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:36.200
<v Speaker 3>be up against it because they're going to be playing

0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 3>a team that's had a chance this week to rest

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:42.879
<v Speaker 3>all of their starters and that whole thing, and they'll

0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:46.840
<v Speaker 3>be on the road. So not only does winning the

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 3>game give you the number one seed, losing the game

0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 3>puts you behind.

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 2>The eight ball.

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:54.360
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get to some point spread picks for

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 3>this week and recapping the.

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Picks of last week.

0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:01.839
<v Speaker 3>I managed to out by a half point a win

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 3>in a wild game I took in the one of

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 3>the college football ball games, Houston over LSU. I was

0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:09.120
<v Speaker 3>laying two and a half and Houston won the game

0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:12.120
<v Speaker 3>by three. Mike was actually right on the money. He

0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 3>took BYU a four point favorite over Georgia Tech, and

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:18.319
<v Speaker 3>it ended up a four point win. In fairness to Mike,

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:20.239
<v Speaker 3>that line dropped a three and a half a lot

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 3>of places that you would have gotten to win, and

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Paul didn't come close to tying anything, and all he

0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:28.360
<v Speaker 3>this is we talked to I don't I think we

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:30.799
<v Speaker 3>talked about this game maybe in the context of Paul's pick.

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:33.440
<v Speaker 3>The Steelers played the Browns. It was a somewhat important

0:53:33.440 --> 0:53:36.560
<v Speaker 3>game I think for Pittsburgh, and Cleveland beat him. Cleveland

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 3>beat him thirteen to six. Maybe it wasn't. I mean,

0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.279
<v Speaker 3>even if Pittsburgh had lost, I think they still could

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 3>have gotten into the playoffs by beating Baltimore this week,

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:47.279
<v Speaker 3>So maybe it wasn't important to them. But anyway, those

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:49.839
<v Speaker 3>are the picks for the week. None of us had

0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 3>a particularly good season, but I did clinch the season

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 3>this twenty twenty five season championship. All right, so much

0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 3>for the past. Let's get to this weekend. Lots of

0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:03.319
<v Speaker 3>NFL games, many are just puzzlers, and quite a few

0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:06.040
<v Speaker 3>college football games, both lesser balls and the four National

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:09.399
<v Speaker 3>Championship semi finals. And again, as we are recording this

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 3>on Wednesday, some of you be listening anytime any of

0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 3>the games beginning that have not yet started. You're at

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:20.879
<v Speaker 3>one one pm Wednesday. Anything from that point forward through

0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:23.400
<v Speaker 3>I guess the end of the weekend, the end the

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:25.000
<v Speaker 3>final game of the NFL.

0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Would be fair game for our picks.

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Paul, you get to, uh, this is your last pick.

0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:36.439
<v Speaker 3>I maybe we'll invite Paul back next season to uh

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.160
<v Speaker 3>to make picks, just to uh, just to put somebody

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:50.200
<v Speaker 3>into uh into the rummy position. Yeah, he's asking about

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:52.440
<v Speaker 3>the overrunner in the Seattle San Francisco.

0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Game, I mean, pages are all messed up.

0:54:55.640 --> 0:55:02.759
<v Speaker 3>Sure, forty nine and a half, and as Mike said,

0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:05.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, San Francisco's scoring points like crazy, but the

0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:13.359
<v Speaker 3>Seahawks defense is phenomenal, makes it really hard. The line

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:16.520
<v Speaker 3>in the Cowboys and Giants game, now that's one of

0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:18.440
<v Speaker 3>those games that Mike talked about, is a good one

0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:20.920
<v Speaker 3>to look at because both teams are knocked out, so

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:24.799
<v Speaker 3>you're not. The difference is is that the Giants, you know,

0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 3>have an incentive to lose as they try to get

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:28.760
<v Speaker 3>the best draft choice that they can get.

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:29.840
<v Speaker 2>The Cowboys on.

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:32.279
<v Speaker 3>The road are favored by three and a half over

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:35.120
<v Speaker 3>the Giants. I think there are a lot of teams

0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:37.399
<v Speaker 3>that were really disappointing teams in the NFL this year,

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Kansas City and Detroit among them.

0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:40.760
<v Speaker 2>But Dallas has to be in that group.

0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, the Giants, I guess are in that group too.

0:55:42.960 --> 0:55:45.520
<v Speaker 3>They certainly were even worse than people thought. Three and

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:55.320
<v Speaker 3>a half. The Cowboys favored. Yeah, he's gonna take Dallas.

0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:59.800
<v Speaker 3>I think I believe Prescott's going to play and Dallas

0:55:59.880 --> 0:56:04.160
<v Speaker 3>is playing at starters. It's a tough game because Dallas,

0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that there's good internal dynamics on that

0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:11.080
<v Speaker 3>team and all of that. The Giants are the kind

0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 3>of organization you can see them screwing up by winning

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:17.880
<v Speaker 3>a game that would help the overall franchise to lose.

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:21.440
<v Speaker 3>But Dallas is the better team. I mean, in fact,

0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:25.440
<v Speaker 3>they're the way better team than the Giants. And I'll

0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:27.560
<v Speaker 3>put it to Mike because it's probably a game that

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 3>you did look at because, as we stated, it is

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:32.920
<v Speaker 3>a game in which both teams are eliminated, so the

0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:35.399
<v Speaker 3>motivational factor is even just playing for a win.

0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:38.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you know they played earlier this year and

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:42.080
<v Speaker 4>Dallas won an overtime at home by three points against

0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:44.680
<v Speaker 4>the Giants. That was before Dark took over at quarterback.

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:48.160
<v Speaker 4>That's a hard game. I don't trust Dallas on the

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:50.600
<v Speaker 4>road as a favorite in this type of game. And

0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:53.600
<v Speaker 4>as you said, the Giants are potentially potentially playing for

0:56:53.640 --> 0:56:56.400
<v Speaker 4>the number one pick, and they them against the Raiders

0:56:56.440 --> 0:56:58.839
<v Speaker 4>last week and they destroyed the Raiders.

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean the Raiders are there's a big controversy

0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:04.480
<v Speaker 3>in the NBA with so many teams tanking.

0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:07.200
<v Speaker 2>The Raiders are Okay.

0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:09.720
<v Speaker 3>The Raiders, I think they I think that I honestly

0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:11.759
<v Speaker 3>think they broke their kicker's leg just to make sure

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:13.799
<v Speaker 3>Crosby couldn't kick. I mean, now he says he's gonna

0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:15.760
<v Speaker 3>have knee surgery, but he said he was able to play.

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:18.880
<v Speaker 3>They wouldn't let him play. The Raiders, that little Mark

0:57:18.960 --> 0:57:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Davis operation cent ofvel. They're gonna do everything they can

0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:26.120
<v Speaker 3>doos this weekend, So I don't think that the Giants

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:29.240
<v Speaker 3>can drop down and get them. But number one is

0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:32.040
<v Speaker 3>just you know, in the NFL, the second pick is

0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:35.640
<v Speaker 3>an awfully good pick two and so on. So I

0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 3>don't think coaches and players try to lose, but there

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 3>could be direction from management to try, well, we need

0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:43.000
<v Speaker 3>to see this young guy here, and let's look at

0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:44.920
<v Speaker 3>some backups on the O line and D line as

0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 3>are prepared for next year.

0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:47.400
<v Speaker 2>All of that stuff.

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:50.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know, I agree one hundred percent. Players don't

0:57:50.680 --> 0:57:53.440
<v Speaker 4>tank it. They're playing for contracts, they're playing for the

0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:57.000
<v Speaker 4>next deal. And and the Giants, you know, they don't

0:57:57.000 --> 0:57:59.360
<v Speaker 4>need a quarterback, so they don't need the one or

0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:01.960
<v Speaker 4>the two picks. They've got Jackson Dart. So they played

0:58:01.960 --> 0:58:03.680
<v Speaker 4>hard last week, and I guess they would hear this

0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 4>is a tough game. For that, I don't like this

0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:06.720
<v Speaker 4>game at all as far as the side goes.

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, time to get a pick from Mike on a

0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:12.560
<v Speaker 2>game that you do like. And by the way, I

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:13.640
<v Speaker 2>had to put.

0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Mike talks a lot about with regard to the college

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:19.160
<v Speaker 3>bowl games. You have to be watching right up to

0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 3>the last minute. And I'm calling it audible at the

0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:22.840
<v Speaker 3>last minute because the game that I was in kent

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:24.960
<v Speaker 3>on picking for a week. I'm not going to pick on.

0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 3>But let's go to Mike and get his pick first.

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:29.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm gonna look at two. I'm gonna get two

0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 4>lines for two bowl games, both on Friday. All right,

0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:37.240
<v Speaker 4>how about the Rice versus Texas State.

0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:41.360
<v Speaker 3>That's actually a game I looked at. Texas State is

0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:44.440
<v Speaker 3>favored by a trillion points. It's see where it is

0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:53.120
<v Speaker 3>right now? My last page. Yeah, so he said, I

0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 3>got my pages all out of sync. Here, sixteen and

0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:02.680
<v Speaker 3>a half Texas State is faid over Rice. I think

0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:05.040
<v Speaker 3>that's the widest margin of any of the bowl games.

0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it definitely. I think it is as so far.

0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:11.240
<v Speaker 4>And the other one is Navy against Cincinnati.

0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Now that's going to be my game, and that game

0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:17.200
<v Speaker 3>seven Navy is favored over Cincinnati by seven. That's going

0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:18.120
<v Speaker 3>to be the game.

0:59:17.840 --> 0:59:18.560
<v Speaker 2>That I pick.

0:59:20.400 --> 0:59:22.080
<v Speaker 4>That's going to be the game I take, too, And

0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm taking Navy in that game.

0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:25.720
<v Speaker 3>You're taking Navy. Well, I'll just tell you right now,

0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:28.360
<v Speaker 3>so am I. So we've got the exact same pick,

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<v Speaker 3>Navy minus seven against Cincinnati. So Michael give his reasons

0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:35.760
<v Speaker 3>that I'll give mine, and we both stumble out of

0:59:35.840 --> 0:59:38.200
<v Speaker 3>the same game independent of one another. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>before we get into that, I am curious. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know that you want to give away the picks that

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<v Speaker 3>your service is offering, but could you give us a

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<v Speaker 3>hint as to whether or not you were going to

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<v Speaker 3>take Texas State or laying sixteen and a half or

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<v Speaker 3>taking the underdog in that game?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was leaning Texas State in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's just a lot of factors going on,

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<v Speaker 3>including the Rice team having to plan nobody a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>Texas State's quarterback. Texas State scores a trillion points to

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<v Speaker 3>play in everybody it could be the ugliest ball game,

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<v Speaker 3>and Rice is one of those teams. They got in

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<v Speaker 3>with a five and seven record, and this isn't like

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<v Speaker 3>getting into the five and seven record in the Big Ten.

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<v Speaker 3>They're getting in with a five and seven record and

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<v Speaker 3>a lesser conference.

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<v Speaker 2>And so on.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, let's get to Navy and Cincinnati. We both

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<v Speaker 3>like Navy. Mike, you give me your reasons, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to agree with every single one of them, because

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<v Speaker 3>I want to hear all the reasons Navy winsor were

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<v Speaker 3>a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'll keep it short so I don't steal everything

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<v Speaker 4>that you've got. Possibly. So, first of all, Cincinnati quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>out soors be one of the better quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>In the backup.

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<v Speaker 2>He's barely played.

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<v Speaker 4>He's played, he's got three hundred career passing in his

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<v Speaker 4>career passing yards, and he's going to split time with

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<v Speaker 4>a freshman that's taken two snaps this year. So Cincinnati's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of viewing this as a future type thing, I

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<v Speaker 4>think for them, Let's face it, Navy showing up for

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<v Speaker 4>the game, Army showed up for a similar situation. Army

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<v Speaker 4>played against Yukon with a bunch of opt outs and

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<v Speaker 4>creamed Yukon in the bowl game. Service academies dating back

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<v Speaker 4>to two thousand and three are nineteen and three against

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<v Speaker 4>the spread.

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<v Speaker 3>They won all their bowl games. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>Navy has won eight bowl games in a row and

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<v Speaker 3>covered the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>And I like that they're coming off a loss against Army.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that situation. And let's face and for Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 4>he's got a ton of opt outs on defense. You

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<v Speaker 4>have to be completely focused in when playing a team

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<v Speaker 4>like Army or Navy. They're ninety seventh against the run

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<v Speaker 4>this year. I think it just sets up for Navy

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<v Speaker 4>to pull away. And I like that it's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a lower spread at seven. I think they won by

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<v Speaker 4>double digits.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Mike, you've never made a mistake and all the

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<v Speaker 2>years you've been on so.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never had to correct you. Navy actually won that

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<v Speaker 3>game by a point over Army.

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<v Speaker 2>They came out that's right, and that was about what

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<v Speaker 2>right down to the end. The ball was right at

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<v Speaker 2>the end zone when it happened. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it matters.

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<v Speaker 3>The Service Academies are great in ball games in part

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<v Speaker 3>just the discipline of Service Academy members. They don't really

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<v Speaker 3>let down for anything. Ever, Secondly, never an opt out

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<v Speaker 3>for a Service Academy because the players. The only time

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<v Speaker 3>a Service Academy player leaves as well as entire eligibility

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<v Speaker 3>and service is up. I think there's a guy, that

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<v Speaker 3>guy that transferred running back somewhere. I think but Arizona

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<v Speaker 3>State or somewhere. They used to play at Army. But

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<v Speaker 3>otherwise the entire team is intact. Cincinnati has opt outs,

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback isn't playing, and Navy has a great I

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<v Speaker 3>just love this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>His name is Horvath. He's a tremendous quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>Navy had a really soft schedule when they were seven

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<v Speaker 3>and zero, and they lost a couple of games and

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<v Speaker 3>reality kicked in, but they finished really strongly. They have

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<v Speaker 3>only two losses on the season. Cincinnati was in the

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<v Speaker 3>Big twelve and had a pretty good season, but they

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<v Speaker 3>lost their last three games down the stretch, and they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't just lose him. Let me pull out this list here.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Cincinnati's final three games of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go back four games. They lost their last four

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<v Speaker 3>games of the season. They got killed by ut Off

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<v Speaker 3>forty five to fourteen. Then they lost at home to

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona thirty to twenty four. They lost to BYU twenty

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<v Speaker 3>six to fourteen, and then they went to TCU and

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<v Speaker 3>lost forty five to twenty three. So you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>rare case of ball team coming in here off of

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<v Speaker 3>four losses, and three of them were real blowouts. And

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<v Speaker 3>as I say, there's just more motivation with Navy. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>this line has moved all the way up. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it opened at two or three and it's up to seven.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that Navy's going to cover it. Mike

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<v Speaker 3>and I agree on that pick. Again, Mike and his

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<v Speaker 3>company ASA offer your own service. You can check him

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<v Speaker 3>out throughout the year in the website is ASA wins

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<v Speaker 3>dot com. Hopefully will connect again next season.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike, Thanks Mark, I appreciate it. It's a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Paul and I are going to give a rap

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<v Speaker 3>on the twenty twenty five season and on Paul's producing ten.

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<v Speaker 3>You're next on the Marked Belling podcast. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Belling podcast. All right, A couple of big things

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<v Speaker 3>to announce. This is the final podcast of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>My podcast has a season. As we explained when we

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<v Speaker 3>began the podcast. For those of you who didn't listen

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<v Speaker 3>to my radio program, for the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been on the same schedule as I Approach. I

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<v Speaker 3>was going to say, Approach senior citizen status. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't consider myself a senior citizen, but by every metric,

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<v Speaker 3>AARP lets you join when you're fifty. That's just a

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<v Speaker 3>racket that they just trying to get at as many

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<v Speaker 3>people to give their membership dues as possible. Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 3>you're way over that level too. I mean, you're not

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<v Speaker 3>over sixty fives.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't think.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm just in that. My intention is to

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<v Speaker 3>work as long as I can possibly do it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've made the decision that the way to do that

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<v Speaker 3>is to do it about as much as I am now.

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<v Speaker 3>So the hopefully permanent schedule for the podcast will be

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<v Speaker 3>made in December, as was the schedule for my radio

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<v Speaker 3>show prior to transitioning to the podcast this year. The

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<v Speaker 3>first year of the podcast was beyond any expectation. We

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<v Speaker 3>were somewhere between number twenty and thirty five just about

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<v Speaker 3>every week, and the entire iHeart national podcast system. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of pretty famous people were lower than me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I started with an audience that basically only knew

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<v Speaker 3>them knew me from southeastern Wisconsin. It's been a tremendous success.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're going to be back on May first, same

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<v Speaker 3>as we did last year. I will be posting more

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<v Speaker 3>frequently on X under Mark Belling Show. It's also possible

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<v Speaker 3>that we'll do a couple of special podcasts somewhere in between.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know anything schedule, but for instance, if something happens,

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<v Speaker 3>we might do a short nine minute podcast or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>an hour, and if you're a subscriber to the podcast now,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll get a notification that one is up, and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>post an X that we do one. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going to say we're doing that for sure, but maybe

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<v Speaker 3>we will, maybe we won't. So this is the final

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<v Speaker 3>podcast of twenty twenty five, and the next one is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be released on May first, and we'll revert

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<v Speaker 3>to the exact same schedule studing then. I'm doing three

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<v Speaker 3>podcasts every week, without regard to holidays or anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>No days off, no shows off. Three podcasts every week

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<v Speaker 3>to be released Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday, starting May first

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<v Speaker 3>and running until.

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<v Speaker 2>The end of the year. And that's been the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way that I've done my career for the last few years.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the way we did the podcast this year. It

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<v Speaker 3>worked spectacularly well, and I've found, unlike say in radio

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<v Speaker 3>or TV. Podcast listeners are used to this because most

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<v Speaker 3>podcasts have seasons where they come and go. My season

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<v Speaker 3>is just most of the year, eight months a year

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<v Speaker 3>and then four months. Well, it's like a streaming series.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the whole thing. And we will obviously have people

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<v Speaker 3>who will fall out of the habit of listening because

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't there. But there are zillions of podcasts that

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<v Speaker 3>have been able to make this work. And we'll remind

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<v Speaker 3>you that we're coming back and this.

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<v Speaker 2>Set and the other thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Paul is not coming back to my podcast, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think you do want to stress you're not retiring.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, one of the challenges we've had with the podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>I think about fifty five percent of the old radio

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<v Speaker 3>audience followed me to the podcast, and they have been

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<v Speaker 3>replaced by a huge number of people who never or

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<v Speaker 3>rarely listened to the show on AM radio. Many of

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<v Speaker 3>them are people who are not from the Wisconsin area

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<v Speaker 3>who stumbled upon me by just stumbling onto podcasts, and

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<v Speaker 3>we've heard from a lot of them who are not

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<v Speaker 3>familiar with me prior to finding the program. And then

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<v Speaker 3>there are other people from the Wisconsin area who just

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<v Speaker 3>stopped thirty five forty years ago ever listening to am radio.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're all over podcasts worlded podcasters tend to people

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<v Speaker 3>that are looking for certain podcasts find them and like

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<v Speaker 3>on iheard, they'll say themes and people hear about it

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<v Speaker 3>and then tons of word of mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>And so on.

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<v Speaker 3>But if that group that just and many of the

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<v Speaker 3>are older people who think that finding a podcast is difficult,

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<v Speaker 3>And as IF explained, it's like everything else. Once you

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<v Speaker 3>do it, you realize it's incredibly simple. But until you

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<v Speaker 3>do it, yeah, you know, you just do it once

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<v Speaker 3>and it's the same. It was the same thing I said.

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<v Speaker 3>Use the example I use all the time as Facebook.

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<v Speaker 3>When Facebook came out, no older people were on it.

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<v Speaker 3>They none of them could figure out how you could

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<v Speaker 3>possibly even do it, and they couldn't imagine why you

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<v Speaker 3>would want to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And Facebook now is only old people.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nobody in the age of fifty on face. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean they can, but I mean I would be young

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<v Speaker 3>if I was on face. So it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Once you learn a technology, you're able to adopt it.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I was going to say is one of

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<v Speaker 3>the things that I face is there are many people

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<v Speaker 3>who didn't follow me over who asked me what retirement

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<v Speaker 3>is like.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm retired.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I work virtually as much as I was

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<v Speaker 3>doing in radio, one show less a week. The podcasts

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<v Speaker 3>are a bit shorter, except when you consider my radio

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<v Speaker 3>show had twenty three minutes or so of spots, newscast, traffic, promos,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera, whereas the podcast has only two minutes or

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<v Speaker 3>two and a half minutes in addition to the little

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<v Speaker 3>bit that the I Heart nationally pops into this. So

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<v Speaker 3>the length the show isn't that much shorter when you

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<v Speaker 3>take out all of that other thing, and it's one

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<v Speaker 3>day a week less.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm on the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Type of schedule and i do the same amount of

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<v Speaker 3>show prep because I'm still looking for all the good

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<v Speaker 3>things that I can possibly do. But people think that

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<v Speaker 3>I've retired, and I think Paul probably wants to stress

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<v Speaker 3>the people that you are not retiring. You don't want

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<v Speaker 3>people to think that you're gone forever. If there is

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<v Speaker 3>something you get to do, you get to talk, turn

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<v Speaker 3>your microphone on. I'm figuring if people have asked me

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<v Speaker 3>forever and ever and ever, why Paul has never talked

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<v Speaker 3>And first of all, it just started that. I want

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Paul was not the first producer. We went

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<v Speaker 3>through like three or four in the first year and

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't talk. So Paul comes in, Well when I

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<v Speaker 3>change that, And it's a good thing that the first

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<v Speaker 3>three or four didn't talk, because none of them lasted,

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<v Speaker 3>and so forth and so on, and it just became

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<v Speaker 3>a device.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would say half the.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk show host who have producers, they don't talk and

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<v Speaker 3>have to And Rush Limbaugh for example, he.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy that was playing bost nearly.

1:10:03.800 --> 1:10:08.000
<v Speaker 3>James Golden occasionally would talk toward the end, but hr

1:10:08.120 --> 1:10:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Kick Carson, Whitefish Bay never spoke on the air, and

1:10:11.439 --> 1:10:13.320
<v Speaker 3>so on. So it's done like half and half and

1:10:13.400 --> 1:10:16.000
<v Speaker 3>half you and John why has found that it work?

1:10:16.080 --> 1:10:18.080
<v Speaker 3>John Wyatt talked now that you just heard Paul's voice,

1:10:18.080 --> 1:10:20.000
<v Speaker 3>which is the first time that it's ever happened. And

1:10:20.200 --> 1:10:22.240
<v Speaker 3>this is a no risk thing for me because if

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<v Speaker 3>you completely screw this up, I can say, good writtance,

1:10:26.680 --> 1:10:29.599
<v Speaker 3>You're never going to hear it again. Now, most people

1:10:30.080 --> 1:10:32.720
<v Speaker 3>who are from Milwaukee know that Paul has been on

1:10:32.800 --> 1:10:36.320
<v Speaker 3>the air with his voice on WYSN for decades. He

1:10:36.400 --> 1:10:39.160
<v Speaker 3>does a number of the weekend shows he's done promos

1:10:39.200 --> 1:10:43.519
<v Speaker 3>here and has spoken while as a producer of other programs.

1:10:42.920 --> 1:10:46.240
<v Speaker 5>And thirty five years. Actually thirty five years.

1:10:45.960 --> 1:10:48.080
<v Speaker 3>And I started in nineteen eighty nine. I think he

1:10:48.120 --> 1:10:50.960
<v Speaker 3>started in nineteen eighty. So your years on the radio

1:10:50.960 --> 1:10:53.519
<v Speaker 3>are the same as mine, because my radio years ended.

1:10:54.160 --> 1:10:56.080
<v Speaker 5>I said, you said I started in eighty. I started

1:10:56.120 --> 1:10:56.479
<v Speaker 5>in ninete.

1:10:56.680 --> 1:10:59.960
<v Speaker 3>I did say ninety. No, I know, I said ninety.

1:11:00.040 --> 1:11:03.240
<v Speaker 3>You just can't hear anymore. Maybe it was eighty. Well,

1:11:03.280 --> 1:11:06.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking to this is what I nine. Paul started

1:11:06.080 --> 1:11:11.000
<v Speaker 3>in ninety, so roughly because I my show had been

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<v Speaker 3>on for about a year and part of the reason

1:11:13.560 --> 1:11:15.960
<v Speaker 3>that we had there are part timers that were doing

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<v Speaker 3>it and people that were going to college and so on,

1:11:17.920 --> 1:11:19.479
<v Speaker 3>and people doing this.

1:11:19.479 --> 1:11:21.080
<v Speaker 2>That and the other thing, and just running through a lot.

1:11:21.120 --> 1:11:23.680
<v Speaker 3>So and Jerry Bot fired as a producer from Your Shot,

1:11:23.760 --> 1:11:26.960
<v Speaker 3>was actually the very first producer and then he kind

1:11:27.000 --> 1:11:30.800
<v Speaker 3>of moved up into management. Here we had Karen was

1:11:30.840 --> 1:11:33.760
<v Speaker 3>the next producer. I don't know if she cares when

1:11:33.760 --> 1:11:36.439
<v Speaker 3>wanting her last name mentioned or not, but she she

1:11:36.520 --> 1:11:38.439
<v Speaker 3>was young, and she was in Marquette at the time,

1:11:38.479 --> 1:11:41.599
<v Speaker 3>and she's going on and had she has a successful career.

1:11:41.720 --> 1:11:42.320
<v Speaker 5>She trained me.

1:11:44.120 --> 1:11:45.720
<v Speaker 2>We had a guy named Barry who did the show

1:11:45.760 --> 1:11:46.080
<v Speaker 2>for a while.

1:11:46.120 --> 1:11:49.360
<v Speaker 3>He had numerous other jobs at WISN and then we

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<v Speaker 3>had like two or three people who were just spot

1:11:52.400 --> 1:11:55.040
<v Speaker 3>here and there, and then Paul came in and he's

1:11:55.040 --> 1:12:00.280
<v Speaker 3>stuck and he lasted with it. So I just my

1:12:00.320 --> 1:12:03.040
<v Speaker 3>own advice, based on my experience, is to not let

1:12:03.120 --> 1:12:05.559
<v Speaker 3>people think that you're leaving or going anywhere. But what's

1:12:05.560 --> 1:12:08.840
<v Speaker 3>happening all over radio is people are moving into other positions.

1:12:08.960 --> 1:12:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Jay Webber has made the decision to do what I'm doing.

1:12:11.840 --> 1:12:13.800
<v Speaker 3>He's taking The Winner off and is going to return

1:12:13.840 --> 1:12:16.320
<v Speaker 3>as a podcaster. He'll be doing two days a week

1:12:16.439 --> 1:12:19.920
<v Speaker 3>rather than three. He's taking the Winner off as well

1:12:20.200 --> 1:12:23.160
<v Speaker 3>as I am, and his podcast will be released on

1:12:23.240 --> 1:12:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Tuesdays and Fridays and mine when Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays,

1:12:26.680 --> 1:12:28.080
<v Speaker 3>which has.

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<v Speaker 2>A rhythm to it. The station.

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<v Speaker 3>The company has not announced who my new producer is.

1:12:36.920 --> 1:12:39.120
<v Speaker 3>I will say that it is somebody that the wis

1:12:39.200 --> 1:12:41.880
<v Speaker 3>audio audience will be familiar with. It will unveil all

1:12:41.880 --> 1:12:44.160
<v Speaker 3>of that on May first, but it will not be

1:12:44.240 --> 1:12:45.880
<v Speaker 3>somebody foreign to the station, for.

1:12:45.960 --> 1:12:48.120
<v Speaker 5>They haven't even told me Mark so Paul.

1:12:48.000 --> 1:12:49.559
<v Speaker 3>So they haven't even told him, but I know who

1:12:49.560 --> 1:12:52.000
<v Speaker 3>it is, but it is somebody that is affiliated with.

1:12:53.240 --> 1:12:55.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure your podcast will be successful, and.

1:12:55.840 --> 1:12:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Paul said, I'm sure. Well, I think there's a very

1:12:57.760 --> 1:13:00.720
<v Speaker 3>good chance it'll be better. Well, well, we have no

1:13:00.800 --> 1:13:03.280
<v Speaker 3>we have. I talked about the side by side comparison

1:13:03.320 --> 1:13:05.519
<v Speaker 3>earlier on the program with regard to the h just

1:13:05.520 --> 1:13:08.880
<v Speaker 3>don't let the new guy with regard Paul said, that'd

1:13:08.880 --> 1:13:12.280
<v Speaker 3>be hilarious, but that would not be good with the

1:13:12.320 --> 1:13:14.760
<v Speaker 3>side by side comparison to the cell phone abandons.

1:13:14.920 --> 1:13:17.160
<v Speaker 2>I have no side by side comparison.

1:13:16.720 --> 1:13:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Whether or not anybody better than you went through three

1:13:18.760 --> 1:13:20.639
<v Speaker 3>or four people in the first year. Otherwise it's only

1:13:20.640 --> 1:13:21.000
<v Speaker 3>been you.

1:13:21.200 --> 1:13:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah.

1:13:22.280 --> 1:13:24.960
<v Speaker 3>David Michael's always claimed that he did a better job

1:13:24.960 --> 1:13:26.640
<v Speaker 3>of producing the show than you did when he on

1:13:26.680 --> 1:13:27.320
<v Speaker 3>the old radio.

1:13:27.400 --> 1:13:27.920
<v Speaker 5>There's no way.

1:13:27.960 --> 1:13:30.040
<v Speaker 3>He's sloppy, Paul, so that he's sloppy that there's no

1:13:30.120 --> 1:13:32.760
<v Speaker 3>way on that. But you are now tell us what

1:13:32.760 --> 1:13:33.800
<v Speaker 3>weekend shows.

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<v Speaker 2>You do or what are you doing?

1:13:34.880 --> 1:13:36.559
<v Speaker 3>And like I had, by the way, there's no gap

1:13:36.600 --> 1:13:39.720
<v Speaker 3>on this that your these continue this coming week.

1:13:39.760 --> 1:13:40.760
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, not taking off.

1:13:40.800 --> 1:13:43.559
<v Speaker 3>So there's nothing happening with regard to Paul here at

1:13:43.560 --> 1:13:45.280
<v Speaker 3>the end of the year, as opposed to me going

1:13:45.320 --> 1:13:49.280
<v Speaker 3>on my normal winter hiatus. But my podcast is ending

1:13:49.320 --> 1:13:51.360
<v Speaker 3>and it's the perfect time for us to make this

1:13:51.400 --> 1:13:51.800
<v Speaker 3>flip over.

1:13:51.920 --> 1:13:53.080
<v Speaker 2>So which weekend shows do you do?

1:13:53.240 --> 1:13:53.479
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

1:13:53.520 --> 1:13:55.800
<v Speaker 6>And I've I started all of these shows. Mark, So

1:13:55.920 --> 1:13:58.320
<v Speaker 6>Saturday the remodeling shows two hours. Then we go into

1:13:58.320 --> 1:14:02.720
<v Speaker 6>a real estate show, Jeff Cohals retirement clinic, we do

1:14:02.840 --> 1:14:06.599
<v Speaker 6>the designer yard show. I'm not boring you yet because

1:14:06.640 --> 1:14:08.639
<v Speaker 6>you've all said these weekend self help shows.

1:14:09.040 --> 1:14:10.559
<v Speaker 2>People know what we do, right.

1:14:10.640 --> 1:14:14.519
<v Speaker 6>We sell the time to companies that pay for the show.

1:14:14.760 --> 1:14:18.080
<v Speaker 6>They get commercials and then they do the programs.

1:14:17.520 --> 1:14:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Whase I infomercials, but they're not fully information educational.

1:14:21.360 --> 1:14:22.640
<v Speaker 2>They're not fully.

1:14:22.360 --> 1:14:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Informercials in that see most infomercials, nobody connected with the

1:14:28.000 --> 1:14:31.879
<v Speaker 3>individual station does them. In the cases of the programs

1:14:31.880 --> 1:14:34.439
<v Speaker 3>that we have, Jerry Bott does a couple of them.

1:14:34.439 --> 1:14:37.040
<v Speaker 3>I think Paul hosts them, and it's identified as part

1:14:37.080 --> 1:14:39.519
<v Speaker 3>of WISN. But there's a disclaimer put out at the

1:14:39.520 --> 1:14:42.080
<v Speaker 3>beginning in the end that these are paid programs in

1:14:42.080 --> 1:14:44.840
<v Speaker 3>which the advertisers are putting themselves out there, and they

1:14:44.840 --> 1:14:47.839
<v Speaker 3>expose themselves to the audience and then offer the advice

1:14:47.960 --> 1:14:49.599
<v Speaker 3>and so on. And my guess is that they'll have

1:14:49.640 --> 1:14:51.679
<v Speaker 3>you draft you into doing a couple of other things

1:14:51.920 --> 1:14:52.679
<v Speaker 3>here at Wis.

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<v Speaker 6>In addition, I should thank you for all the cruising

1:14:54.800 --> 1:14:57.320
<v Speaker 6>years because because of that Mark, I get to now

1:14:57.400 --> 1:14:58.040
<v Speaker 6>have my own crew.

1:14:58.439 --> 1:15:00.360
<v Speaker 3>He's going to go, so his whole thing. This is

1:15:00.360 --> 1:15:03.280
<v Speaker 3>why he couldn't talk. He's gonna go and take this thing. Now. Well,

1:15:03.320 --> 1:15:05.240
<v Speaker 3>you can't plug your cruise because you'll leave in like

1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:06.280
<v Speaker 3>five days or something.

1:15:06.479 --> 1:15:08.559
<v Speaker 5>There is one in twenty seven though, so stay tune,

1:15:08.640 --> 1:15:08.720
<v Speaker 5>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so he's been leading a cruise and people have

1:15:10.800 --> 1:15:13.120
<v Speaker 3>asked you're ever going to do a cruise again. The

1:15:13.160 --> 1:15:17.360
<v Speaker 3>one advantage that you have in not being married, as

1:15:17.400 --> 1:15:21.320
<v Speaker 3>I am not and never have been, is I don't

1:15:21.320 --> 1:15:23.120
<v Speaker 3>have to lock my feet and stow it on anything.

1:15:23.160 --> 1:15:26.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I can change it, I maybe at some

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<v Speaker 3>point in the future, but it was just something I

1:15:28.439 --> 1:15:30.280
<v Speaker 3>did every year. Plus it was always something that I

1:15:30.320 --> 1:15:31.800
<v Speaker 3>did in the winter. Well, now the winner is the

1:15:31.800 --> 1:15:33.439
<v Speaker 3>period of which I'm taking the break and I'm in

1:15:33.479 --> 1:15:36.880
<v Speaker 3>Florida and just kind of have been there and done that,

1:15:36.960 --> 1:15:38.840
<v Speaker 3>and we did that for over thirty years with Paul's

1:15:38.840 --> 1:15:39.599
<v Speaker 3>now leading a cruise.

1:15:39.600 --> 1:15:40.680
<v Speaker 2>And where are you going this year?

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<v Speaker 6>Belize, Belieze close to Maya, Mexico, so it's a Caribbean cruise.

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<v Speaker 2>But are about the civil war that just started there today?

1:15:47.200 --> 1:15:48.679
<v Speaker 5>Now we're avoiding all of that time.

1:15:48.720 --> 1:15:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I just made that up. There's no civil war going

1:15:52.360 --> 1:15:53.160
<v Speaker 2>on in Belize.

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<v Speaker 5>Next year to Lisbon, Portugal and Spain.

1:15:55.840 --> 1:15:58.720
<v Speaker 3>Portugal, all right, and that's enough plugging of your that's

1:15:58.800 --> 1:16:01.920
<v Speaker 3>enough plugging of your cruise. Are you working with your

1:16:01.960 --> 1:16:03.479
<v Speaker 3>wife in real estate or is that not.

1:16:03.479 --> 1:16:05.200
<v Speaker 5>Going No, she's the realtor.

1:16:05.280 --> 1:16:07.519
<v Speaker 6>But I am involved in some businesses that we own,

1:16:07.560 --> 1:16:09.200
<v Speaker 6>like storage units I think you've talked about.

1:16:09.640 --> 1:16:11.200
<v Speaker 3>So he's been doing that and the other thing and

1:16:11.280 --> 1:16:17.479
<v Speaker 3>keeping his three grand show grant. And the one thing

1:16:17.560 --> 1:16:19.679
<v Speaker 3>I think Paul and I can both say, I've ended

1:16:19.720 --> 1:16:22.360
<v Speaker 3>micro radio career but doing something very similar doing it

1:16:22.360 --> 1:16:26.240
<v Speaker 3>for the same company I did radio, is we got

1:16:26.240 --> 1:16:28.839
<v Speaker 3>into radio and what was close to the golden age

1:16:29.000 --> 1:16:35.120
<v Speaker 3>of radio, and for a zillion reasons other than news

1:16:35.240 --> 1:16:39.559
<v Speaker 3>talk stations like WYS and almost all of them are

1:16:39.680 --> 1:16:45.160
<v Speaker 3>hurting for a zillion reasons and WISN, which had incredible

1:16:45.200 --> 1:16:48.120
<v Speaker 3>host stability. We had the great lineup for the longest time.

1:16:48.520 --> 1:16:51.519
<v Speaker 3>There's now on transition because we're all hitting the same age.

1:16:51.640 --> 1:16:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Jay's a little bit younger than me, but he's gone.

1:16:54.160 --> 1:16:56.679
<v Speaker 3>Dan o'donald is you know, moved into my old radio

1:16:56.760 --> 1:16:59.240
<v Speaker 3>shift this past year, and Benet will be taking over

1:16:59.360 --> 1:17:06.439
<v Speaker 3>for Jay by hosting morning Drive. And I don't know

1:17:06.479 --> 1:17:10.480
<v Speaker 3>that they've yeah, they've announced they have announced the replacement

1:17:10.560 --> 1:17:12.599
<v Speaker 3>for Ben in the mid day program.

1:17:12.680 --> 1:17:16.599
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Jason Gotch will be doing the match a day

1:17:16.680 --> 1:17:19.640
<v Speaker 6>show from nine until eleven, and uh Vicky still on

1:17:19.720 --> 1:17:22.120
<v Speaker 6>from two to three and then playing Buck in the

1:17:22.160 --> 1:17:22.720
<v Speaker 6>middle of the day.

1:17:22.920 --> 1:17:23.559
<v Speaker 2>It's a good one.

1:17:23.600 --> 1:17:25.479
<v Speaker 3>So I mean, it's it's they continue to have a

1:17:25.600 --> 1:17:27.880
<v Speaker 3>very very good lineup and so on, in addition to

1:17:27.960 --> 1:17:30.800
<v Speaker 3>all of the other programs that are out there. I

1:17:30.920 --> 1:17:33.240
<v Speaker 3>refused when I ended the radio program to do anything

1:17:33.240 --> 1:17:36.120
<v Speaker 3>that was sappy whatsoever. And I'm banning Paul from saying

1:17:36.160 --> 1:17:38.840
<v Speaker 3>anything sappy that was here. But Paul was obviously the

1:17:38.880 --> 1:17:41.280
<v Speaker 3>most important part of the program that we had the

1:17:41.439 --> 1:17:44.720
<v Speaker 3>entire time that was on and so on and the

1:17:45.960 --> 1:17:49.120
<v Speaker 3>so he's gonna he's not going anywhere. He's not retiring,

1:17:49.120 --> 1:17:51.759
<v Speaker 3>and he wouldn't be on this podcast for four months anyway.

1:17:51.800 --> 1:17:53.960
<v Speaker 3>And when I come back, there'll be a producer whose

1:17:54.040 --> 1:17:55.920
<v Speaker 3>name will be announced that and again I know who

1:17:55.960 --> 1:17:57.800
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be, but it has not been announced

1:17:58.240 --> 1:17:59.880
<v Speaker 3>in general to the staff and all of that. So

1:18:00.320 --> 1:18:02.800
<v Speaker 3>keep that hutched up again. Follow me on X and

1:18:03.080 --> 1:18:05.720
<v Speaker 3>I may. I'll probably pop up on a couple of

1:18:05.760 --> 1:18:08.800
<v Speaker 3>the radio shows around here and so on. If something

1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:09.920
<v Speaker 3>comes up during I.

1:18:09.840 --> 1:18:12.200
<v Speaker 5>Should publicly thank you Mark for everything I see.

1:18:16.439 --> 1:18:19.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there are some people that are narcissists. I

1:18:20.000 --> 1:18:21.760
<v Speaker 3>know that this sounds like I'm crowing. I am like

1:18:21.840 --> 1:18:25.000
<v Speaker 3>the opposite of a narcissist. You are a part of

1:18:25.040 --> 1:18:29.560
<v Speaker 3>that is generational. I mean way more our parents' generation

1:18:29.760 --> 1:18:30.040
<v Speaker 3>had that.

1:18:30.160 --> 1:18:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I.

1:18:32.320 --> 1:18:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Know a fair number of people that served in World

1:18:34.840 --> 1:18:37.479
<v Speaker 3>War Two and not a damn would have never wanted to.

1:18:37.560 --> 1:18:40.599
<v Speaker 3>And I don't think it was just because of post

1:18:40.600 --> 1:18:43.080
<v Speaker 3>traumatic stress and all of that.

1:18:43.520 --> 1:18:45.240
<v Speaker 2>They just didn't brag or bring up a thing.

1:18:45.320 --> 1:18:47.400
<v Speaker 3>They talk about it with their other buddies that were

1:18:47.400 --> 1:18:52.600
<v Speaker 3>in the war and so on, and I just I

1:18:52.640 --> 1:18:55.200
<v Speaker 3>mean I mentioned that the in all of the years

1:18:55.200 --> 1:18:57.240
<v Speaker 3>I did radio, and all the years that I've done

1:18:57.280 --> 1:18:59.559
<v Speaker 3>the podcast, the number of times that's somebody from management

1:18:59.560 --> 1:19:01.439
<v Speaker 3>walked down the hallway after where I shows and said

1:19:01.439 --> 1:19:02.400
<v Speaker 3>that was a really good show.

1:19:02.560 --> 1:19:04.960
<v Speaker 5>Never, it's less than five never.

1:19:05.360 --> 1:19:07.960
<v Speaker 2>But part of that is the air that I put off,

1:19:08.040 --> 1:19:10.040
<v Speaker 2>like what do you want?

1:19:10.120 --> 1:19:10.559
<v Speaker 3>Why are you.

1:19:10.600 --> 1:19:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Telling me this?

1:19:11.960 --> 1:19:13.639
<v Speaker 5>So what I will stress when you're gone.

1:19:13.640 --> 1:19:15.880
<v Speaker 6>Though you do a great job on Twitter, which X

1:19:16.479 --> 1:19:19.000
<v Speaker 6>it's a thing now, a thing daily tweet.

1:19:19.040 --> 1:19:20.840
<v Speaker 3>See now you keep saying that, I don't need to

1:19:20.920 --> 1:19:23.320
<v Speaker 3>keep saying formally known as Twitter, but an incredible number

1:19:23.360 --> 1:19:24.599
<v Speaker 3>of people still call it Twitter.

1:19:24.680 --> 1:19:26.760
<v Speaker 5>We do because it's either to say tweet, what do

1:19:26.760 --> 1:19:27.639
<v Speaker 5>you say XT?

1:19:27.960 --> 1:19:31.519
<v Speaker 3>Well, I say post, and that's what I hear Musk say,

1:19:31.800 --> 1:19:33.840
<v Speaker 3>and it's the term that he Musk uses and he

1:19:33.960 --> 1:19:38.080
<v Speaker 3>runs the thing. But I was inactive on Twitter in

1:19:38.160 --> 1:19:42.280
<v Speaker 3>part because before Musk bought it and renamed it views

1:19:42.320 --> 1:19:44.840
<v Speaker 3>like mine, you'd be blocked and banned and et cetera.

1:19:45.400 --> 1:19:47.920
<v Speaker 3>The reason that you now you can now can post

1:19:47.960 --> 1:19:52.360
<v Speaker 3>on there. But secondly, when he's taking this hiatus for

1:19:52.360 --> 1:19:54.679
<v Speaker 3>four months, it was away for me to keep putting

1:19:54.760 --> 1:19:58.000
<v Speaker 3>my information out there on things. And thirdly, it became

1:19:58.080 --> 1:20:00.519
<v Speaker 3>a huge win. I didn't need to promote the show

1:20:00.520 --> 1:20:02.040
<v Speaker 3>because you either knew about it or you didn't after

1:20:02.080 --> 1:20:03.800
<v Speaker 3>all those years. But the podcast was a new thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So every podcast that we do, I post on X

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<v Speaker 3>is another way of being out there. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I still catch the whole problem when you put something

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<v Speaker 3>like that in writing, that's out there for all the

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<v Speaker 3>critics to see. You put one little thing out of context,

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<v Speaker 3>or say one thing that somebody may deem offensive, and

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<v Speaker 3>it can be a career hunting kind of thing. It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's a risky thing in which the sanctions still apply

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<v Speaker 3>to people in the right far more than thee left.

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<v Speaker 3>You have any other parting words? No more thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>So any other parting words that you have? No just

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<v Speaker 3>feel see as usual, very very little to say, which

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<v Speaker 3>is why it was not on there on the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>What else? What were you saying? Feeling?

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<v Speaker 5>Your word transitioning and transitioning.

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<v Speaker 3>We're transitioning, not reciting. I think if I transitioned to

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<v Speaker 3>a woman, I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Be bad looking.

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<v Speaker 3>You would be the ugliest woman that there ever could

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<v Speaker 3>possibly be terrible.

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<v Speaker 5>I got a big nose.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, have you ever seen anyone who did

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<v Speaker 3>transition that.

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<v Speaker 2>Did look good.

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<v Speaker 5>Bruce Jenner likes Jenner slightly.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to say that, but I mean he started

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<v Speaker 3>as a good looking guy. You know what I'm saying, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>he had to be a good looking guy. Look with

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<v Speaker 3>you know all of these Kardashians, you know, and the

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<v Speaker 3>last Kardashian was not the Kardashian that was his kid,

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<v Speaker 3>but he married Missus Kardashian.

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<v Speaker 2>Or he was a a cathlete.

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<v Speaker 3>And so we've clearly run out of things to say,

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<v Speaker 3>and indeed those will be the last words that you

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<v Speaker 3>hear from me until May first. I don't to thank

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<v Speaker 3>Paul for all of his contributions that we've made. And

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<v Speaker 3>so when again the podcast returns May first, Paul isn't

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<v Speaker 3>going anywhere. He'll still have a number of duties. And

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<v Speaker 3>with that, we're out of time for this year. Season

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<v Speaker 3>number one was spectacular. I'm not announcing anything, but we

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<v Speaker 3>are going to be making some formatic changes in the

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<v Speaker 3>second season of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>And the way that we do it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm not going to announce anything until we come

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<v Speaker 3>around and start doing it in May.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to you then.

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