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Speaker 3: ability to do a side by side comparison of what

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Speaker 3: happens when you ban cell phones and schools. First of all,

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Speaker 3: some schools do and some schools don't, so you can

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Speaker 3: compare that. But secondly, many of the schools that have

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Speaker 3: what the result was before I even tell you everything

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Speaker 3: has improved in the schools that ban cell phones in

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Speaker 2: This story appears, and it is Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 3: New evidence shows that bans on phones in classrooms work well. Again,

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Speaker 3: no kidding, but let's dive into and by the way,

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Speaker 3: you can find that with the Wall Street Journal. We

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Speaker 3: end up behind a paywall. Every now and then they'll

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Speaker 3: give you free stories out there for free. But if

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Speaker 3: you want to find it, it is on the Wall

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Speaker 3: Street Journal, online, WSJ, dot comm or and the prededition.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to share some paragraphs from the story

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Speaker 3: written by Julie Jargon. A large urban district in Florida

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Speaker 3: saw an increase in student test scores. A smaller school

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Speaker 3: district in rural California experienced a dramatic decline in student

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Speaker 3: behavioral problems. The reason for both the absence of smartphones

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Speaker 3: in the classroom. Early data on the effects of school

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Speaker 3: of phone bands confirm what teachers and administrators have long

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Speaker 3: suspected that phones in the classrooms were the primary culprit

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Speaker 2: Quote.

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Speaker 3: When you have two hundred and sixty seven incidents of

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Speaker 3: a school year, that's a problem, said April Moore, superintendent

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Speaker 3: of the Sierra Sans Unified School District near California's Mojave Desert,

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Speaker 3: of last year's disciplinary problems, students were using their phones

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Speaker 3: to plan bathroom vaping meetups, gossip sessions, and fights. When

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Speaker 3: behaviors escalate in the invisible space, we can't prevent them

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Speaker 3: or react as fast, said More, who presides over a

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Speaker 3: As I say, as somebody who's not involved in running

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Speaker 3: And the answer is because sometimes parents object, sometimes students

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Speaker 3: Now that actually is the end of the world. But say,

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Speaker 3: another story. In fact, I have companion stories that I'm

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Speaker 3: Fox six. It has to do with a seventeen year

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Speaker 3: A by the way the story goes on, They found

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Speaker 3: able to identify the caller as Cameron, Gats and Staples

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Speaker 3: Another side authority said The Milwaukee address was Gaston Staples's

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Speaker 3: There are separate charges in Milwaukee County for that because

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Speaker 3: This is a proposal in New Berlin. Many of you

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Speaker 3: They have numerous rules no booze, no this, no that curfew.

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Speaker 3: Preliminary approval has been given to this in New Berlin,

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Speaker 3: at another site.

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00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: It's been closed.

438
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 3: The family had disputes, they sold the property, they sold,

439
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: and there's been nothing in there for a year. For

440
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 3: those of you who don't know the area, it's been

441
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 3: on the same location in North Van burenu Straeted Milwaukee

442
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: since nineteen sixty four. Over the last several years, as

443
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: many of you know, there has been a housing boom

444
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 3: in downtown Milwaukee. The Lower east Side and the third ward.

445
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: This place would be where kind of downtown on the

446
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 3: Lower east Side come to together. And over the many years,

447
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 3: there was never there's always there are always apartment rental

448
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 3: houses behind Victors. But since all of this, a brand

449
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: new high rise apartment building is opened across the street.

450
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 3: Two blocks down is the Ascent, a very high end

451
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: apartment complex. Another blockdown is the seven to seventy seven,

452
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: which is a high rise apartment complex, extremely high end

453
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 3: that Northwestern developed. There is someone who has put in

454
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 3: an application to open a bar at the old Victor's site,

455
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: and there is overwhelming opposition from the neighborhood. There's going

456
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 3: to be a hearing in front of the Milwaukee Common

457
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 3: Council's Liquor License Committee on January sixth. Now I pick

458
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 3: up on this because I'm from the area and you're

459
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: just hearing it. I don't live that close to where

460
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: the Victor's property was, but I live close enough that

461
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 3: I hear from all of the people that are involved

462
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 3: in this, and it's become a big to do and

463
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: down to Milwaukee. The opponents are all the people that

464
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 3: you would figure. First of all, the apartment building across

465
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: the Street, which is new Land Enterprise. That's the Gakman

466
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: family and their partner, Whickman. They're obviously opposed. They probably

467
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 3: enjoy not having a bar that's open until two o'clock

468
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 3: in the morning five nights a week or whatever it was.

469
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: Victors used to be seven nights a week across the

470
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: street from them. They're opposed, as are the majority of

471
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: the residents who live there being opposed because they don't

472
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: want to have all the commotion that occurs at the bar.

473
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 3: In addition to that, there's a high school, Saint John

474
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: and Tino, which is a black and a half away.

475
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: They're opposed.

476
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: Katz, who owns lots of the smaller apartment house metals

477
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: all around the area.

478
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: He's opposed.

479
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: Pretty Much everybody in the vicinity is opposed. The aldermen

480
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: from the district, Bob Bauman is opposed, and Bob Bauman

481
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: is opposed because every one of his constituents is opposed.

482
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. For six decades there's.

483
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 3: Been a bar operating on that location. It's not like

484
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 3: the people would not be used to a bar. And

485
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: in the case of the old Victors, an extremely popular

486
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: bar that had a huge late night crowd back in

487
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: the old days, a huge late night crowd, damn near

488
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: every night of the wake. The aldermen from the district,

489
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: Bob Bauman, who opposes it, said yeah, but that Victor's

490
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: is closed. Of course, Victors had the benefit of the

491
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: doubt and being able to continue to operate there because

492
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 3: they were there before almost all these new people came in.

493
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: But now you've had a building that's empty. This is

494
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 3: a brand new way application to put something in at

495
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: a brand new site, from a brand new ownership group, etc.

496
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 2: They start from square.

497
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 3: One and they don't get a benefit of the doubt.

498
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: The city coach is going to have to decide what

499
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 2: to do here now.

500
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: I think one of the things that you consider is

501
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: the track record of the operator. And it's one of

502
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: those deals where somebody owns the building, somebody else is leasing,

503
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 3: and the leasing hires a manager and the manager apparently

504
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: runs a bar on the south side where there's been

505
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: a little bit of incident stuff and so on. I

506
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: can tell you, as somebody who's not unfamiliar with that place,

507
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 3: which is generally bars.

508
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: And so on.

509
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: Everything has gotten worse over the years, and you see

510
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: it on Water Street and shootings almost never occurred in

511
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 3: the past.

512
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: Shooters occur all the time.

513
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: Now there's nothing bars can do about it, because, as

514
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: I say, almost all of them make sure that you

515
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: can't bring guns in. But what do you do about

516
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: the parking lots? And then as we see on Water Street,

517
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: this new thing, and it's just it's the strangest thing

518
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: for me, and I can't relate because when I was

519
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: a kid, the drinking age is eighteen. I asked Paul

520
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: this all the time because I always forget. Was it

521
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: eighteen when you were a kid. Yes, it turned twenty

522
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: one right after them, so we both experienced, well, okay,

523
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: you're eighteen, you can go into a bar, which we

524
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: could do. But the thing now is for people under

525
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: twenty one who can't get into the bar, they go

526
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: and hang around outside the bar. It's a huge issue

527
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: on Water Street. It's huge to a lot of these places.

528
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: They're in the cars doing the pot in the form

529
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: of edibles. They usually don't smoke because the cops are

530
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 3: patrolling out there, or they're drinking like crazy in the

531
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: bar and maybe somebody's designated. The police do what they

532
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: can to hang around these places. But in Milwaukee, the

533
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: cops can't be around all the bars all the time. Now,

534
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: the people that are applying for the license there application

535
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: says Vix and van Bura on a takeoff on the

536
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: old victor's name, and they spill Vix like the cough

537
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: dur Bicks, so they want to take advantage of the

538
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: old name. They say that they're going to do a

539
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: sports bar, but everybody assumes that the place is going

540
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: to be a late night club that has a hip

541
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: hop component to it, late at night, et cetera, because

542
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: how else can you make money late at night other

543
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: than operating that My guess is that the alderman from

544
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: the district and the residents would like to have a

545
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: restaurant that opens at nine o'clock that closes at nine

546
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: or ten at night, which that whole area surrounded by

547
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: and doesn't have the same issue. But one of the

548
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: things the city we'll have to address is that we're

549
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: going to discriminate against these new potential operators by telling

550
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: them that they can't operate a business at a site

551
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: that somebody else did for sixty years. Or are you

552
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: going to tell the neighbors who are moving into a

553
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: community one of the only areas of Milwaukee where there's

554
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: been residential growth, that we're gonna let somebody with no

555
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: track record come in and make your lives miserable every night.

556
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: Two very different land used decisions. In both cases, the

557
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: municipality will have to make a decision. I have no

558
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: opinion on either. Just share the story, all right now,

559
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: this story I'm I'm gonna say this is unprecedented, but

560
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: it's close. Paul and I are in the radio business.

561
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: I of course now I'm a podcast through but I

562
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: still work for a company that is in the radio business,

563
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: and I do my show from a radio studio.

564
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: Are you used to doing?

565
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul's doing still doing and will continue to do

566
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: radio programs with the weekend shows that here on WISI.

567
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: Both of us have been in radio our entire lives.

568
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: Everyone knows that radio is one of the industries that

569
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 3: is contracting for the same reason that everything else that's

570
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: been contracting because of technology. Streaming and all of the

571
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: podcasting which I now do are competing with radio. And

572
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: radio companies have largely responded to this by cutting spending,

573
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: having fewer personnel, fewer on air people, etc. This is

574
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: confronting a number of industries. There's something happening in the

575
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: story that I'm mentioning here. I'm not going to say

576
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: it never happens. What I will say is it almost

577
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: never happens in an area of any size. I don't

578
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: even think that it's happened in Milwaukee. We have a

579
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: case in the Fox Valley station that's going to shut down.

580
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: In other words, not of anything. Now Milwaukee, we have

581
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: several stations. They operate, but they're just running syndicated programming

582
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: twenty four hours a day, or they might be running

583
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: infomercials twenty four hours a day. And when those properties

584
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: have been sold, they don't sell for what they did

585
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: in the past. But there's always a value to it

586
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: because there's so many signals above. In this case, though,

587
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: they're just shutting down, which is very weird, and I

588
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: don't know if it's a sign of the times or

589
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: if they're up to something. There is reason to think

590
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 3: they're up to something because of who owns the company.

591
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: First of all, I'll tell you that the radio station

592
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: is WNAM Nina Manasha. Are you familiar with that station, Paul?

593
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: That was at one time just a giant, particularly before

594
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 3: FM radio came in. I'm up from the year in

595
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: the Fox Valley and WNAM was a big time radio station.

596
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: Back in the sixties, they were still playing the easy

597
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: listening music when people like me were listening to top

598
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: forty stations and so on, and then in the seventies

599
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: they switched to.

600
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: Rock and roll.

601
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 3: But as rock and roll listeners went over to FM,

602
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: they were basically just trying to survive ever since playing

603
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: easy listening. They didn't go to talk, which most AM

604
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: stations did and so on. But back in the day,

605
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: this was a huge station and a lot of people

606
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: who went on to become big deals worked there. I

607
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: think the most famous. He only worked there for a

608
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: few months, but I was in high school. Who was there?

609
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: I remember listening to him and the wow, this guy's

610
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: going He was only there for six months. He went

611
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: on to become a huge DJ at America. You know

612
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: Don Geronimo knows the name. He became a talk show

613
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: host and was always on that same list the top

614
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: one hundred in the country that I was as another

615
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: guy that has an almost identical name, but it's mostly

616
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: a rock and roll DJ before talk shows. He worked

617
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: at that station when he was sixteen. I still remember

618
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: here it was when that song from Greece was on

619
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: the top forty. You're the one that I want. Remember that.

620
00:33:54,480 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: Remember who did it? Yeah, that's right, that's who did it. Well, anyway,

621
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: he played it and he said, there's that awful song

622
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: from Greece by Olivia Newton, John and John Revolting. I

623
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: mean I laughed out loud because I had given what

624
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: year he worked there. I had to still be in

625
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: high school and I heard the thing. Well, a lot

626
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: of people came to that station, and it was a

627
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: big deal for anyway, Fox Eary is a major, pretty

628
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 3: big market. It's the second largest market in Wisconsin for

629
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: radio and television, Madison's third because the Fox really covers

630
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: Green Bay all the way down to Ashkash and some

631
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: even Defindale. I ended a pretty good signal on the

632
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: AM dial, but they'd been running a format that doesn't

633
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 3: have any listeners. Who wants to listen to easy listening

634
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 3: music on AM radio. They were the voice of the

635
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 3: Brewers Farm Team, the Wisconsin Cumber Rattlers. What's interesting, though,

636
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: is by just turning it off, I mean even if

637
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: you have almost we have a couple of stations in

638
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: our building that have very small listenership, but you can

639
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: still put something on and do something off of it

640
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: or sell it to somebody. Often they'll sell them and

641
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: they'll become a religious station. I don't know if they

642
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: couldn't sell it, or if they're turning it off and

643
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,959
Speaker 3: they have it for sale to somebody else, but they're

644
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 3: just shutting it down as of today. Now here's why

645
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: I'm intrigued, aside from just is this what now radio

646
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: is gonna come? That stations are now on AMDAL if

647
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: they have low listenership or now not even you can't

648
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: even sell them, I don't know. The company involved is Cumulus,

649
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: which is the second largest radio company in America, the

650
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 3: one that WYSN, where I used to work, iHeart.

651
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: Is the largest.

652
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 3: Cumulus is owned by George Soros. When Soros took over Cumulus,

653
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Speaker 3: I wondered what he was going to be doing with

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Speaker 3: the number of those stations. Now in Soros as a

655
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Speaker 3: hedge fund manage operator and so on, they tend to

656
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Speaker 3: slash and cut, but radio is seeing slashing and cutting

657
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Speaker 3: from everyone involved. But in this case, they're just turning

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Speaker 3: the damn thing off. And I don't know if that's

659
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Speaker 3: where all of radio is going. But boy, usually even

660
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Speaker 3: if you have a minuscule audience, once you already have

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Speaker 3: the station, the costs of operating are rather limited. And

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Speaker 3: the state they own several other stations that run in

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Speaker 3: that same building, so you're just running the utilities of

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Speaker 3: keeping the transmit around. Otherwise, you can do a radio

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Speaker 3: station and almost have it operate twenty four to seven

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Speaker 3: by machine. But even in smaller communities they've got some

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Speaker 3: of them. But as I say, this isn't like a

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Speaker 3: tiny station in the middle of nowhere. It is a

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Speaker 3: station that's got lots of FM stations and so on.

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Speaker 3: My guess is they probably try to sell it, and

671
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Speaker 3: maybe they've just decided that why pay anything anybody, any

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Speaker 3: salaries or any costs whatsoever. But that and now this

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Speaker 3: story big deal coming up in Milwaukee this weekend. As

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Speaker 3: how many people don't know that the Olympics are coming

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Speaker 3: up in a month and a half twenty five percent tone.

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Speaker 2: Well they are.

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Speaker 3: That means the American teams are being selected right now.

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Speaker 3: They call them the trials. The American Olympic Trials for

679
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Speaker 3: speed skating are this weekend and they're at the Petit

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Speaker 3: in and of itself. That's interret I've got a story

681
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Speaker 3: here that I think they're approaching sellout for a lot

682
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Speaker 3: of the sessions of this, But I mean, it's just

683
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Speaker 3: it's a first of all, the Olympic Trials are the

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Speaker 3: biggest thing that you have other than the Olympics. It's

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Speaker 3: the championships for the United States of America because it

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Speaker 3: determines the Olympic game. But secondly, the best speed skater

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Speaker 3: in the world and maybe the best, potentially the best

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Speaker 3: speed skater since Eric Heiden forty five years ago, is

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Speaker 3: Jordan Stoles, who's from our own area and he competes

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Speaker 3: in everything. He's long track, not short track. This is

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Speaker 3: not the short track speed skating you've seen some of

692
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Speaker 3: that that the really really tiny ranks. Long track is

693
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Speaker 3: the final trials that are going to be here. So

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Speaker 3: it's going to be an opportunity for Jordan's Stoles from

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Speaker 3: Kewaskam to star out, a chance for people to see

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Speaker 3: them that you actually have Olympic trials that a determined

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Speaker 3: the American Olympic team in a major sport going on

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Speaker 3: this weekend.

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Speaker 2: All right, the.

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Speaker 3: Plan for today's program, We're going to do our football

701
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Speaker 3: preview next, and then that's not normally that's the end

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Speaker 3: of our program. Then we're going to do a segment

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Speaker 3: after this one, so stick through what in which we

704
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Speaker 3: will allow Paul to address the fact that he's.

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Speaker 2: I still what if I fired you right now? See

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Speaker 2: what he would be able to do a farewell.

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 3: Paul said that would post the podcast. Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 3: problem with firing him. First of all, there's nobody in

710
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Speaker 3: our building today. I don't even know if it's a holiday.

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Speaker 2: Is it a holiday or maybe.

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Speaker 3: We're like that w one a m and then just

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Speaker 3: turned everything off and I.

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Speaker 2: Don't even know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't fire Paul because he's got to post

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Speaker 3: the podcast. If I could fire him, I suppose after

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Speaker 3: he post the podcast, but he wouldn't be working for

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Speaker 3: the show anymore. So we're going to do that at

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Speaker 3: segment three. So football and the coming up next on

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Speaker 3: the Markepelling Podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast. We're

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Speaker 3: going to do things a little bit out of sync today. Normally,

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Speaker 3: the final segment of the program is our weekly football

723
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Speaker 3: preview and football picks, but we're doing in a segment

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Speaker 3: two A because I want to use the final segment

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Speaker 3: two talk about Paul's long, long time coming departure from

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Speaker 3: the program, in the future of the podcast and so on.

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Speaker 2: So we'll do that at the end.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'm joined by Mike Blat of American Sports

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Speaker 3: Analysts in Madison as we wrap up the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five season. First of all, we're on a recording this

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Speaker 3: on a Wednesday. Football is kicking in right and left.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of games, in fact going on today.

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Speaker 3: All of the college football playoff games go Wednesday night

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Speaker 3: or Thursday. Some of you may be hearing the podcast

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Speaker 3: after they've already been played. Anyway, Mike, is there anything

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Speaker 3: you'd like to share about how ASA is going to

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Speaker 3: be handling all this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Sure, Go to our website, wins dot com right on

740
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Speaker 4: the front page and get the rest of our season,

741
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Speaker 4: both college and NFL for ninety nine bucks. That's the

742
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Speaker 4: rest of our bowl games. Well, it looks like we'll

743
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Speaker 4: have a couple of bowl games on Thursday, and then

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Speaker 4: moving forward we'll have some and then you know, last

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Speaker 4: week in the NFL and our playoffs, we've been doing

746
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Speaker 4: really well. We won seven of the last eight top

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Speaker 4: games in college and we've swept the board in the

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Speaker 4: NFL two of the last three weekends, so we're rolling

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Speaker 4: right now. And then get everything for ninety nine through

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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: And has that super Bowl record Sage str I mean,

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Speaker 3: you had some unbelievable super Bowl record forever and ever

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Speaker 3: and ever, and I don't remember anymore if that got

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Speaker 3: all screwed up or is that still a strong thing.

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Speaker 4: It's still strong. We won last year. I don't have

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Speaker 4: it off the top of my head, but it's a

757
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Speaker 4: really strong record in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, you get the Super Bowl included for

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Speaker 3: doing all of that. All right, let's get to this weekend.

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Speaker 3: First of all, more college football gets more attention for

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Speaker 3: a lot of reasons, including the college semifinal games are

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Speaker 3: going on. There are four of them, and I'm going

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Speaker 3: to sure you pick out two of them. And again

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Speaker 3: I want to remind the audience that we're recording this

765
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Speaker 3: on Wednesday, so those of you who listen after Wednesday

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Speaker 3: or Thursday or Friday, some of these games might already

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Speaker 3: be played.

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Speaker 2: Of the four.

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Speaker 3: Games that we chose, I wanted to cherry pick out

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Speaker 3: and talk about the two that I guess I find

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Speaker 3: most interesting. The first is Alabama in Indiana, We've talked

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Speaker 3: about Indiana a lot this year because there are emergence

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Speaker 3: from awful to then really good to this year dominant

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Speaker 3: and maybe the best team in America. Has been a

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Speaker 3: compelling story that not a lot of people have seen coming.

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Speaker 3: They play Alabama. Indiana's the number one seed in the

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Speaker 3: whole thing, so of course they're pretty hefty favorites over Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Alabama is no longer the Alabama of Nick Saban, It's

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Speaker 3: the Alabama of Kailin de boor Indiana is still I

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Speaker 3: think it still has skeptics who aren't certain how good

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Speaker 3: they are, even though I think they've proven everything that

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Speaker 3: there is to prove. Alabama's come out of the SEC

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Speaker 3: and has played a really brutal schedule and has a

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Speaker 3: pretty good record.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts in this game?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you've kind of hit it on the head as

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Speaker 4: far as Indiana not always getting the respect they deserve,

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Speaker 4: and I think it's because it's kind of a weird matchup.

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Speaker 4: You've got a long term college powerhouse, Alabama against an

790
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Speaker 4: Indiana team that's stunk just a few years ago. And

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Speaker 4: Indiana's favored by a touchdown in this game, and a

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Speaker 4: lot I've had a lot of people asking me, why

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Speaker 4: is Indiana a whole touchdown against Alabama? Well, they're better.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're the better team this year, and it's

795
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Speaker 4: not really particularly that close. I think, you know, just

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Speaker 4: to sidetrack a little bit, I think you can say Indiana,

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Speaker 4: right is the turnaround Indiana's had is possibly the quickest

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Speaker 4: and best in college football history.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 4: They were nine and twenty seven in the three years

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Speaker 4: before Signetty came. Now they're twenty four and two with him,

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Speaker 4: and their two losses were last year at Ohio State

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Speaker 4: and at Notre Dame, who played for the national championship.

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Speaker 4: That's the only two losses under him. Remarkable turnaround. Indiana

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Speaker 4: is a better team, far better margins. If you look

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Speaker 4: at you yards for play points per game, they're beating

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Speaker 4: teams by thirty one points per game, Alabama by thirteen

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Speaker 4: points per game. It's a interesting matchup, but there's a

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Speaker 4: reason that Indiana's favored by seven. One thing to watch here,

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Speaker 4: it's supposed to rain. It's been raining all day in

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Speaker 4: Pasadena's supposed to rain all day tomorrow, so the conditions

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Speaker 4: could be a little bit sloppy tomorrow for that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the game is in the Rose Bowl. The four

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Speaker 3: games are all played in traditional ball games. In fact,

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Speaker 3: four of the Big Ball games are this weekend, and

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Speaker 3: they're all the ones for the National Championship quarter finals.

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Speaker 2: The other game that I want to talk about involves.

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Speaker 3: The Big Ten is all over this, but of course

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Speaker 3: they are because there's nine hundred and fifty seven teams

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Speaker 3: in the Big Ten. One of them is one of

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Speaker 3: those newer Big Ten teams, Oregon. They play the closest

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Speaker 3: thing we have to Indiana, and that's Texas Tech. Texas

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Speaker 3: Tech has always been okay, and they've got a new coach.

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Speaker 3: They hired a general manager who does all the recruiting.

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Speaker 3: The school has a lot of big time oil money alumni,

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Speaker 3: and they have a massive nil budget, and they've bought

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Speaker 3: a spectacular team. Oregon versus Texas Tech really good game.

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Speaker 3: Texas Tech is one of those Texas schools that didn't

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Speaker 3: leave to go to the SEC. They're in the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 3: Oregon did not make the Big Ten Championship game. They're

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Speaker 3: probably the third best team in the Big Ten, which

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Speaker 3: is a pretty good statement given the fact that Ohio

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Speaker 3: State and Indiana the only two better than them. This

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Speaker 3: is the I think the closest to the points spread matchups.

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Speaker 3: Oregon is favored by two and a half points in

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Speaker 3: the game, and I think this is the Orange Bowl

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Speaker 3: in Miami.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on.

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Speaker 4: The game, Mic, Yes, the game's in Miami, and I

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Speaker 4: think this is the best game of the week. Of

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Speaker 4: the four. I think these two teams are evenly mashed.

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Speaker 4: I really do that. You have to factor in the

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Speaker 4: strength of schedule and try to balance the stats based

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Speaker 4: on the strength of schedule. Texas Tech has a much

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Speaker 4: weaker their strength of schedule sixty fifth compared to eleventh

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Speaker 4: for Oregon. But you know, we said before, you can

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Speaker 4: only play who's in front of you, and they you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Texas Tech twice had to play BYU, which I

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Speaker 3: thought was a pretty good team this year, and they've

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Speaker 3: pieceded them twice. So that tells me again, you can

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Speaker 3: only beat who you played. They did take the loss

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Speaker 3: to Arizona State, but they've been strowing consistently throughout the

853
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Speaker 3: season and they never really hit much of a speed bump.

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Speaker 4: They didn't and they've won every game by at least

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Speaker 4: twenty four points. And they beat the UYU twice and

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Speaker 4: they won Utah with a really good team they beat

857
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Speaker 4: They destroyed Utah on the road this year at Utah,

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Speaker 4: so they've beaten the teams in front of them. Oregon's

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Speaker 4: played one playoff team. Texas Tech hasn't played a playoff team.

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Speaker 4: Oregon played one and lost by tenant home to Indiana.

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Speaker 4: Their best wins are probably at Washington and at Iowa,

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Speaker 4: which are good wins, so comparable. These two teams are

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Speaker 4: very comparable, but they're a lead on both sides of

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Speaker 4: the ball. Texas Tech is top six nationally in total

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Speaker 4: offense and total defense, and Oregon is top twelve. I'd argue,

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Speaker 4: you know, this is an interesting staff here. I'd argue

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Speaker 4: Tech Tech defense hasn't talked about enough. Their defense is elite, elite.

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Speaker 4: They faced three top twenty five offenses this year and

869
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 4: allowed eight points per game in those in those games.

870
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 4: Oregon has played also three top twenty five offenses, and

871
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 4: they allowed thirty points per game in those games against

872
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 4: James Madison, Indiana, and USC tex better on defense, Oregon's

873
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: better on offense. It's going to be a fantastic game.

874
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: I think this is by far.

875
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: The best game of the One interesting component the Texas

876
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 3: Tech coaching staff is obviously very good, but very inexperienced.

877
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 3: The head coach is an old guy, Joey Maguire, but

878
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 3: he spent most of his career as a high school

879
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 3: coach in the state of Texas. Their coordinators and everybody

880
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 3: else and their staff are guys that he's plucked out,

881
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: and almost none of them have been in anything like this. Oregon,

882
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 3: on the other hand, Dan Lanning ran the defense at

883
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: Georgia for a number of years and his whole staff

884
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: is filled with coaches that have been in big games

885
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 3: and in big programs. I don't know if that comes

886
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: into play or not you put a game pan together

887
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 3: with the players that you have, but I do note

888
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: that there's just a tremendous experience difference in coaching in

889
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: big games that would favor Oregon. That being said, I

890
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: kind of think Texas Tech's going to win. Let's turn

891
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: our attention to the NFL. I say this every year.

892
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 2: And I'm going to say it again.

893
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 3: The two most impossible weeks to figure out in the

894
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 3: NFL are the week first week and the last week.

895
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 3: And the last week is especially impossible because the overwhelming

896
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 3: majority of games this weekend are meaningless and I don't

897
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: even know. In fact, let's talk about that before we

898
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: get to the one game that I do want to

899
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: focus on, Mike. It kind of strikes me like a

900
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 3: lot of the minor ball games where you look at

901
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 3: the opt outs of who's going to play and who

902
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 3: isn't going to play. That's really what the last week

903
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: of the NFL is going to be. Which teams are

904
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 3: going to play starters, which ones are not, and so on.

905
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: I think that this is just a brutal week to

906
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: figure out anything in the NFL.

907
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to be really good comparison Mark as

908
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 4: far as the opt outs in the bowl games in

909
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 4: this last week in the NFL, very good comparison. I mean,

910
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 4: it's you kind of have to focus on the last week.

911
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 4: Focus on teams that are facing off that are eliminated

912
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 4: because they're still playing all their starts, they're still playing

913
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 4: for you know, then you at least know what's going

914
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 4: on with those or teams that are fighting for the

915
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 4: playoffs or playoff spots right now. Other than that, you

916
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 4: got to throw the rest of the rest of the

917
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 4: games out here. Here's what we look for in the

918
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: last two weeks of the season, and unfortunately, this week

919
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 4: nothing falls into this situation. We look for teams that

920
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 4: are eliminated from the playoffs against teams that have to

921
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 4: win again that particular game, and we go against the

922
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 4: teams that have to win. In fact, since nineteen ninety

923
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 4: the teams that have to win those games are sixty

924
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 4: nine and one ten against the spread. So the teams

925
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 4: that are eliminated and don't have to win cover almost

926
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 4: sixty two percent of the time happened.

927
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: And you can see why that would be.

928
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: I mean, for the team that's been eliminated, this is

929
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: their only playoff game, whereas the team that needs to

930
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: win and there's no pressure on that team, where the

931
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 3: team that needs to win has a lot of pressure,

932
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: plus the lines are probably really inflated to the team

933
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: that needs to win. But you're right, there are none

934
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 3: of those situations this weekend. There are more games like

935
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 3: green Bay and Minnesota where Minnesota is out and green

936
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 3: Bay is locked in game has no impact on the

937
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 3: Packers whatsoever. Minnesota, Okay, it's the last game of the season.

938
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 3: That's what The whole schedule is. A few games in

939
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 3: which there's tremendous meaning and then a bunch of others

940
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 3: in which they're eliminated. Teams are playing teams that have

941
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 3: already been locked into the playoffs. But there's not one

942
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 3: situation that, as Mike mentions, where a team has to

943
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: win to get into the playoffs. There are a couple

944
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 3: of games where both teams have to win to get

945
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 3: into the playoffs, like Pittsburgh and Baltimore, but none of

946
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 3: the other The one game of the meaning that I

947
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 3: think is the most fascinating, and it really does have

948
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 3: importance because the number one seed in the NFC is

949
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: at stake in this The loser is going to be

950
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 3: a wildcard team, and the winner of the game is

951
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: going to be the number one seed in the whole NFC,

952
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 3: and that's the Seahawks and the forty nine Ers. What

953
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: a good game. The betting odds right now favor the

954
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 3: Seahawks to win the Super Bowl. But this is as

955
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: wide open a year as I think has ever existed.

956
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 3: The Rams where everybody's Super Bowl team until they've now

957
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 3: clunked a couple of times. Here the Rams are for

958
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 3: certain now a wildcard team. The Seahawks and the forty

959
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: nine Ers are playing for control of the West. Really

960
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: good game, very tight point spread the games at San

961
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: Francisco Stadium. The Seahawks are a little bit favored on

962
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: the road. Very good game, has a lot of meeting.

963
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 2: What do you think?

964
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, first of all, how good is the NFC West?

965
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 4: My gosh, the Rams are considered by a lot of

966
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 4: people that they be the best team in the NFL,

967
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: and they might be a sixth seed, right.

968
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 3: They're the third place team in that they might be

969
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 3: the best team, as you said, in the in the

970
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 3: whole league and the third best team in their own division,

971
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 3: which is just perverse.

972
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, And as you said, the winner of this is

973
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 4: the number one seed in the NFC. The loser can

974
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: be the five or the sixth seed. It's gonna be

975
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 4: Seattle or the Rams as the five or six seed.

976
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 4: And just a side note, you want to be the

977
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 4: sixth seed. You want to be the five seed, not

978
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 4: the sixth seed. Normally a lot of times it doesn't matter.

979
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 4: But this year the five seed is going to play

980
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 4: Carolina or Tampa Bay and the six gaed is going

981
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 4: to have to go to Philadelphia Chicago. They're a big

982
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: difference in that. So if San Francisco wins this game,

983
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: they're the number one seed. They went through. They never

984
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 4: have to leave home the Super Bowls in their stadium

985
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 4: this year, which is an interesting side note as well.

986
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 4: Offense against defense in this game. We mentioned it last week.

987
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 4: San Francisco has scored one hundred and twenty seven points

988
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 4: in their last three games, forty two points per game,

989
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 4: and since Perty came back they're six and zero. They're

990
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 4: averaging thirty six points per game. They're playing the second

991
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 4: best defense in the NFL in the points per game situation,

992
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 4: and Seattle only allowed twenty four points twice this season,

993
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 4: So really interesting game. Seattle's been really good on the road.

994
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 4: People don't realize there's seven and one on the road

995
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 4: this year, with a two point loss at the Rams.

996
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 4: Going back to their last eighteen games they won on

997
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 4: the road, they've won sixteen of them. That's probably why

998
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 4: they're favorite here. They're the better team, the better defense,

999
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 4: But man, San Francisco's offense is humming right now. This

1000
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 4: is going to be a fantastic game, best game of

1001
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 4: the year, possibly in the NFL.

1002
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and boy, I think that the team that loses

1003
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: it hask the turnaround and play next week. They might

1004
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: be up against it because they're going to be playing

1005
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: a team that's had a chance this week to rest

1006
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 3: all of their starters and that whole thing, and they'll

1007
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 3: be on the road. So not only does winning the

1008
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: game give you the number one seed, losing the game

1009
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: puts you behind.

1010
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: The eight ball.

1011
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to some point spread picks for

1012
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: this week and recapping the.

1013
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 2: Picks of last week.

1014
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 3: I managed to out by a half point a win

1015
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: in a wild game I took in the one of

1016
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 3: the college football ball games, Houston over LSU. I was

1017
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 3: laying two and a half and Houston won the game

1018
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: by three. Mike was actually right on the money. He

1019
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 3: took BYU a four point favorite over Georgia Tech, and

1020
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 3: it ended up a four point win. In fairness to Mike,

1021
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 3: that line dropped a three and a half a lot

1022
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: of places that you would have gotten to win, and

1023
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: Paul didn't come close to tying anything, and all he

1024
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 3: this is we talked to I don't I think we

1025
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 3: talked about this game maybe in the context of Paul's pick.

1026
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 3: The Steelers played the Browns. It was a somewhat important

1027
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: game I think for Pittsburgh, and Cleveland beat him. Cleveland

1028
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 3: beat him thirteen to six. Maybe it wasn't. I mean,

1029
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 3: even if Pittsburgh had lost, I think they still could

1030
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 3: have gotten into the playoffs by beating Baltimore this week,

1031
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 3: So maybe it wasn't important to them. But anyway, those

1032
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 3: are the picks for the week. None of us had

1033
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: a particularly good season, but I did clinch the season

1034
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: this twenty twenty five season championship. All right, so much

1035
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 3: for the past. Let's get to this weekend. Lots of

1036
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 3: NFL games, many are just puzzlers, and quite a few

1037
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: college football games, both lesser balls and the four National

1038
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 3: Championship semi finals. And again, as we are recording this

1039
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 3: on Wednesday, some of you be listening anytime any of

1040
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: the games beginning that have not yet started. You're at

1041
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 3: one one pm Wednesday. Anything from that point forward through

1042
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 3: I guess the end of the weekend, the end the

1043
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: final game of the NFL.

1044
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: Would be fair game for our picks.

1045
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 3: Paul, you get to, uh, this is your last pick.

1046
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 3: I maybe we'll invite Paul back next season to uh

1047
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 3: to make picks, just to uh, just to put somebody

1048
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 3: into uh into the rummy position. Yeah, he's asking about

1049
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 3: the overrunner in the Seattle San Francisco.

1050
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: Game, I mean, pages are all messed up.

1051
00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 3: Sure, forty nine and a half, and as Mike said,

1052
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 3: you know, San Francisco's scoring points like crazy, but the

1053
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 3: Seahawks defense is phenomenal, makes it really hard. The line

1054
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 3: in the Cowboys and Giants game, now that's one of

1055
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 3: those games that Mike talked about, is a good one

1056
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 3: to look at because both teams are knocked out, so

1057
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 3: you're not. The difference is is that the Giants, you know,

1058
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: have an incentive to lose as they try to get

1059
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 3: the best draft choice that they can get.

1060
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 2: The Cowboys on.

1061
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 3: The road are favored by three and a half over

1062
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 3: the Giants. I think there are a lot of teams

1063
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 3: that were really disappointing teams in the NFL this year,

1064
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 3: Kansas City and Detroit among them.

1065
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 2: But Dallas has to be in that group.

1066
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 3: Well, the Giants, I guess are in that group too.

1067
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 3: They certainly were even worse than people thought. Three and

1068
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 3: a half. The Cowboys favored. Yeah, he's gonna take Dallas.

1069
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 3: I think I believe Prescott's going to play and Dallas

1070
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 3: is playing at starters. It's a tough game because Dallas,

1071
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: I don't think that there's good internal dynamics on that

1072
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 3: team and all of that. The Giants are the kind

1073
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 3: of organization you can see them screwing up by winning

1074
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 3: a game that would help the overall franchise to lose.

1075
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 3: But Dallas is the better team. I mean, in fact,

1076
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: they're the way better team than the Giants. And I'll

1077
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 3: put it to Mike because it's probably a game that

1078
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 3: you did look at because, as we stated, it is

1079
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 3: a game in which both teams are eliminated, so the

1080
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 3: motivational factor is even just playing for a win.

1081
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know they played earlier this year and

1082
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 4: Dallas won an overtime at home by three points against

1083
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 4: the Giants. That was before Dark took over at quarterback.

1084
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 4: That's a hard game. I don't trust Dallas on the

1085
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 4: road as a favorite in this type of game. And

1086
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 4: as you said, the Giants are potentially potentially playing for

1087
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 4: the number one pick, and they them against the Raiders

1088
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 4: last week and they destroyed the Raiders.

1089
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: Well, I mean the Raiders are there's a big controversy

1090
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: in the NBA with so many teams tanking.

1091
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: The Raiders are Okay.

1092
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 3: The Raiders, I think they I think that I honestly

1093
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 3: think they broke their kicker's leg just to make sure

1094
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 3: Crosby couldn't kick. I mean, now he says he's gonna

1095
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 3: have knee surgery, but he said he was able to play.

1096
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 3: They wouldn't let him play. The Raiders, that little Mark

1097
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 3: Davis operation cent ofvel. They're gonna do everything they can

1098
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 3: doos this weekend, So I don't think that the Giants

1099
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 3: can drop down and get them. But number one is

1100
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: just you know, in the NFL, the second pick is

1101
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 3: an awfully good pick two and so on. So I

1102
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 3: don't think coaches and players try to lose, but there

1103
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: could be direction from management to try, well, we need

1104
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 3: to see this young guy here, and let's look at

1105
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 3: some backups on the O line and D line as

1106
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 3: are prepared for next year.

1107
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: All of that stuff.

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00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I agree one hundred percent. Players don't

1109
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 4: tank it. They're playing for contracts, they're playing for the

1110
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 4: next deal. And and the Giants, you know, they don't

1111
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 4: need a quarterback, so they don't need the one or

1112
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 4: the two picks. They've got Jackson Dart. So they played

1113
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 4: hard last week, and I guess they would hear this

1114
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 4: is a tough game. For that, I don't like this

1115
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 4: game at all as far as the side goes.

1116
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: Okay, time to get a pick from Mike on a

1117
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: game that you do like. And by the way, I

1118
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: had to put.

1119
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: Mike talks a lot about with regard to the college

1120
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 3: bowl games. You have to be watching right up to

1121
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 3: the last minute. And I'm calling it audible at the

1122
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 3: last minute because the game that I was in kent

1123
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: on picking for a week. I'm not going to pick on.

1124
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: But let's go to Mike and get his pick first.

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00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna look at two. I'm gonna get two

1126
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 4: lines for two bowl games, both on Friday. All right,

1127
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 4: how about the Rice versus Texas State.

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00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 3: That's actually a game I looked at. Texas State is

1129
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 3: favored by a trillion points. It's see where it is

1130
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 3: right now? My last page. Yeah, so he said, I

1131
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: got my pages all out of sync. Here, sixteen and

1132
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 3: a half Texas State is faid over Rice. I think

1133
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: that's the widest margin of any of the bowl games.

1134
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely. I think it is as so far.

1135
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 4: And the other one is Navy against Cincinnati.

1136
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 3: Now that's going to be my game, and that game

1137
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 3: seven Navy is favored over Cincinnati by seven. That's going

1138
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 3: to be the game.

1139
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: That I pick.

1140
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 4: That's going to be the game I take, too, And

1141
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 4: I'm taking Navy in that game.

1142
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: You're taking Navy. Well, I'll just tell you right now,

1143
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: so am I. So we've got the exact same pick,

1144
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 3: Navy minus seven against Cincinnati. So Michael give his reasons

1145
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: that I'll give mine, and we both stumble out of

1146
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 3: the same game independent of one another. By the way,

1147
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 3: before we get into that, I am curious. I don't

1148
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 3: know that you want to give away the picks that

1149
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 3: your service is offering, but could you give us a

1150
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 3: hint as to whether or not you were going to

1151
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 3: take Texas State or laying sixteen and a half or

1152
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: taking the underdog in that game?

1153
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was leaning Texas State in that game.

1154
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that.

1155
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 3: I think there's just a lot of factors going on,

1156
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: including the Rice team having to plan nobody a quarterback,

1157
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 3: Texas State's quarterback. Texas State scores a trillion points to

1158
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: play in everybody it could be the ugliest ball game,

1159
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 3: and Rice is one of those teams. They got in

1160
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: with a five and seven record, and this isn't like

1161
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: getting into the five and seven record in the Big Ten.

1162
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 3: They're getting in with a five and seven record and

1163
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: a lesser conference.

1164
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: And so on.

1165
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 3: But anyway, let's get to Navy and Cincinnati. We both

1166
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 3: like Navy. Mike, you give me your reasons, and I'm

1167
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 3: going to agree with every single one of them, because

1168
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 3: I want to hear all the reasons Navy winsor were

1169
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 3: a touchdown.

1170
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll keep it short so I don't steal everything

1171
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 4: that you've got. Possibly. So, first of all, Cincinnati quarterback

1172
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 4: out soors be one of the better quarterbacks.

1173
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: In the backup.

1174
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 2: He's barely played.

1175
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 4: He's played, he's got three hundred career passing in his

1176
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 4: career passing yards, and he's going to split time with

1177
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 4: a freshman that's taken two snaps this year. So Cincinnati's

1178
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 4: kind of viewing this as a future type thing, I

1179
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 4: think for them, Let's face it, Navy showing up for

1180
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 4: the game, Army showed up for a similar situation. Army

1181
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 4: played against Yukon with a bunch of opt outs and

1182
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 4: creamed Yukon in the bowl game. Service academies dating back

1183
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 4: to two thousand and three are nineteen and three against

1184
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 4: the spread.

1185
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 3: They won all their bowl games. And by the way,

1186
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 3: Navy has won eight bowl games in a row and

1187
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 3: covered the ball.

1188
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 4: And I like that they're coming off a loss against Army.

1189
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 4: I like that situation. And let's face and for Cincinnati,

1190
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 4: he's got a ton of opt outs on defense. You

1191
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 4: have to be completely focused in when playing a team

1192
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 4: like Army or Navy. They're ninety seventh against the run

1193
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 4: this year. I think it just sets up for Navy

1194
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 4: to pull away. And I like that it's you know,

1195
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 4: a lower spread at seven. I think they won by

1196
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 4: double digits.

1197
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 2: No, Mike, you've never made a mistake and all the

1198
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 2: years you've been on so.

1199
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 3: I've never had to correct you. Navy actually won that

1200
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 3: game by a point over Army.

1201
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 2: They came out that's right, and that was about what

1202
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: right down to the end. The ball was right at

1203
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: the end zone when it happened. But I don't think

1204
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: it matters.

1205
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 3: The Service Academies are great in ball games in part

1206
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 3: just the discipline of Service Academy members. They don't really

1207
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:02,439
Speaker 3: let down for anything. Ever, Secondly, never an opt out

1208
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 3: for a Service Academy because the players. The only time

1209
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 3: a Service Academy player leaves as well as entire eligibility

1210
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 3: and service is up. I think there's a guy, that

1211
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 3: guy that transferred running back somewhere. I think but Arizona

1212
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 3: State or somewhere. They used to play at Army. But

1213
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 3: otherwise the entire team is intact. Cincinnati has opt outs,

1214
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 3: the quarterback isn't playing, and Navy has a great I

1215
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 3: just love this guy.

1216
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: His name is Horvath. He's a tremendous quarterback.

1217
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 3: Navy had a really soft schedule when they were seven

1218
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 3: and zero, and they lost a couple of games and

1219
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 3: reality kicked in, but they finished really strongly. They have

1220
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 3: only two losses on the season. Cincinnati was in the

1221
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 3: Big twelve and had a pretty good season, but they

1222
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 3: lost their last three games down the stretch, and they

1223
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 3: didn't just lose him. Let me pull out this list here.

1224
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 3: This is Cincinnati's final three games of the season.

1225
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 2: They lost.

1226
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 3: Let's go back four games. They lost their last four

1227
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 3: games of the season. They got killed by ut Off

1228
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 3: forty five to fourteen. Then they lost at home to

1229
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 3: Arizona thirty to twenty four. They lost to BYU twenty

1230
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 3: six to fourteen, and then they went to TCU and

1231
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 3: lost forty five to twenty three. So you've got a

1232
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 3: rare case of ball team coming in here off of

1233
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 3: four losses, and three of them were real blowouts. And

1234
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 3: as I say, there's just more motivation with Navy. Now,

1235
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,439
Speaker 3: this line has moved all the way up. I think

1236
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 3: it opened at two or three and it's up to seven.

1237
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 3: But I think that Navy's going to cover it. Mike

1238
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 3: and I agree on that pick. Again, Mike and his

1239
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 3: company ASA offer your own service. You can check him

1240
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 3: out throughout the year in the website is ASA wins

1241
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 3: dot com. Hopefully will connect again next season.

1242
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 4: Mike, Thanks Mark, I appreciate it. It's a pleasure.

1243
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 3: Okay, Paul and I are going to give a rap

1244
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 3: on the twenty twenty five season and on Paul's producing ten.

1245
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 3: You're next on the Marked Belling podcast. This is the

1246
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 3: Mark Belling podcast. All right, A couple of big things

1247
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 3: to announce. This is the final podcast of the season.

1248
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 3: My podcast has a season. As we explained when we

1249
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 3: began the podcast. For those of you who didn't listen

1250
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 3: to my radio program, for the last couple of years,

1251
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 3: I've been on the same schedule as I Approach. I

1252
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 3: was going to say, Approach senior citizen status. I mean,

1253
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 3: I don't consider myself a senior citizen, but by every metric,

1254
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 3: AARP lets you join when you're fifty. That's just a

1255
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 3: racket that they just trying to get at as many

1256
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 3: people to give their membership dues as possible. Yeah, well

1257
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 3: you're way over that level too. I mean, you're not

1258
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 3: over sixty fives.

1259
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: You wouldn't think.

1260
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just in that. My intention is to

1261
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 3: work as long as I can possibly do it, and

1262
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 3: I've made the decision that the way to do that

1263
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 3: is to do it about as much as I am now.

1264
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 3: So the hopefully permanent schedule for the podcast will be

1265
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 3: made in December, as was the schedule for my radio

1266
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 3: show prior to transitioning to the podcast this year. The

1267
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 3: first year of the podcast was beyond any expectation. We

1268
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 3: were somewhere between number twenty and thirty five just about

1269
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 3: every week, and the entire iHeart national podcast system. Man,

1270
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 3: a lot of pretty famous people were lower than me,

1271
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 3: and I started with an audience that basically only knew

1272
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 3: them knew me from southeastern Wisconsin. It's been a tremendous success.

1273
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 3: So we're going to be back on May first, same

1274
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 3: as we did last year. I will be posting more

1275
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 3: frequently on X under Mark Belling Show. It's also possible

1276
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 3: that we'll do a couple of special podcasts somewhere in between.

1277
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 3: I don't know anything schedule, but for instance, if something happens,

1278
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 3: we might do a short nine minute podcast or maybe

1279
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 3: an hour, and if you're a subscriber to the podcast now,

1280
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 3: you'll get a notification that one is up, and I'll

1281
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 3: post an X that we do one. So I'm not

1282
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 3: going to say we're doing that for sure, but maybe

1283
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 3: we will, maybe we won't. So this is the final

1284
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 3: podcast of twenty twenty five, and the next one is

1285
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 3: going to be released on May first, and we'll revert

1286
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 3: to the exact same schedule studing then. I'm doing three

1287
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 3: podcasts every week, without regard to holidays or anything else.

1288
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 3: No days off, no shows off. Three podcasts every week

1289
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 3: to be released Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday, starting May first

1290
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Speaker 3: and running until.

1291
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Speaker 2: The end of the year. And that's been the.

1292
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 3: Way that I've done my career for the last few years.

1293
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 3: It's the way we did the podcast this year. It

1294
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 3: worked spectacularly well, and I've found, unlike say in radio

1295
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,959
Speaker 3: or TV. Podcast listeners are used to this because most

1296
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 3: podcasts have seasons where they come and go. My season

1297
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 3: is just most of the year, eight months a year

1298
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Speaker 3: and then four months. Well, it's like a streaming series.

1299
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 3: It's the whole thing. And we will obviously have people

1300
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 3: who will fall out of the habit of listening because

1301
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 3: I wasn't there. But there are zillions of podcasts that

1302
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: have been able to make this work. And we'll remind

1303
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 3: you that we're coming back and this.

1304
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 2: Set and the other thing.

1305
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 3: Now, Paul is not coming back to my podcast, but

1306
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 3: I think you do want to stress you're not retiring.

1307
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 3: In fact, one of the challenges we've had with the podcast,

1308
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 3: I think about fifty five percent of the old radio

1309
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 3: audience followed me to the podcast, and they have been

1310
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 3: replaced by a huge number of people who never or

1311
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 3: rarely listened to the show on AM radio. Many of

1312
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 3: them are people who are not from the Wisconsin area

1313
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 3: who stumbled upon me by just stumbling onto podcasts, and

1314
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 3: we've heard from a lot of them who are not

1315
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 3: familiar with me prior to finding the program. And then

1316
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 3: there are other people from the Wisconsin area who just

1317
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 3: stopped thirty five forty years ago ever listening to am radio.

1318
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 3: But they're all over podcasts worlded podcasters tend to people

1319
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 3: that are looking for certain podcasts find them and like

1320
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 3: on iheard, they'll say themes and people hear about it

1321
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 3: and then tons of word of mouth.

1322
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: And so on.

1323
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 3: But if that group that just and many of the

1324
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 3: are older people who think that finding a podcast is difficult,

1325
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 3: And as IF explained, it's like everything else. Once you

1326
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 3: do it, you realize it's incredibly simple. But until you

1327
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 3: do it, yeah, you know, you just do it once

1328
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 3: and it's the same. It was the same thing I said.

1329
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 3: Use the example I use all the time as Facebook.

1330
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 3: When Facebook came out, no older people were on it.

1331
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 3: They none of them could figure out how you could

1332
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 3: possibly even do it, and they couldn't imagine why you

1333
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 3: would want to do it.

1334
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 2: And Facebook now is only old people.

1335
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 3: There's nobody in the age of fifty on face. I

1336
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 3: mean they can, but I mean I would be young

1337
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 3: if I was on face. So it's the same thing.

1338
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 3: Once you learn a technology, you're able to adopt it.

1339
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 3: But what I was going to say is one of

1340
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 3: the things that I face is there are many people

1341
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,839
Speaker 3: who didn't follow me over who asked me what retirement

1342
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 3: is like.

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01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: So I'm retired.

1344
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 3: In fact, I work virtually as much as I was

1345
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 3: doing in radio, one show less a week. The podcasts

1346
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 3: are a bit shorter, except when you consider my radio

1347
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:50,440
Speaker 3: show had twenty three minutes or so of spots, newscast, traffic, promos,

1348
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 3: et cetera, whereas the podcast has only two minutes or

1349
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 3: two and a half minutes in addition to the little

1350
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 3: bit that the I Heart nationally pops into this. So

1351
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 3: the length the show isn't that much shorter when you

1352
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 3: take out all of that other thing, and it's one

1353
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 3: day a week less.

1354
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 2: But I'm on the same.

1355
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 3: Type of schedule and i do the same amount of

1356
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 3: show prep because I'm still looking for all the good

1357
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 3: things that I can possibly do. But people think that

1358
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 3: I've retired, and I think Paul probably wants to stress

1359
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 3: the people that you are not retiring. You don't want

1360
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 3: people to think that you're gone forever. If there is

1361
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 3: something you get to do, you get to talk, turn

1362
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 3: your microphone on. I'm figuring if people have asked me

1363
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,799
Speaker 3: forever and ever and ever, why Paul has never talked

1364
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 3: And first of all, it just started that. I want

1365
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 3: you know, Paul was not the first producer. We went

1366
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 3: through like three or four in the first year and

1367
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 3: they didn't talk. So Paul comes in, Well when I

1368
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 3: change that, And it's a good thing that the first

1369
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:48,839
Speaker 3: three or four didn't talk, because none of them lasted,

1370
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 3: and so forth and so on, and it just became

1371
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 3: a device.

1372
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 2: And I would say half the.

1373
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 3: Talk show host who have producers, they don't talk and

1374
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 3: have to And Rush Limbaugh for example, he.

1375
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 2: The guy that was playing bost nearly.

1376
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 3: James Golden occasionally would talk toward the end, but hr

1377
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 3: Kick Carson, Whitefish Bay never spoke on the air, and

1378
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 3: so on. So it's done like half and half and

1379
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 3: half you and John why has found that it work?

1380
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 3: John Wyatt talked now that you just heard Paul's voice,

1381
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 3: which is the first time that it's ever happened. And

1382
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 3: this is a no risk thing for me because if

1383
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 3: you completely screw this up, I can say, good writtance,

1384
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 3: You're never going to hear it again. Now, most people

1385
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 3: who are from Milwaukee know that Paul has been on

1386
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 3: the air with his voice on WYSN for decades. He

1387
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: does a number of the weekend shows he's done promos

1388
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 3: here and has spoken while as a producer of other programs.

1389
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 5: And thirty five years. Actually thirty five years.

1390
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 3: And I started in nineteen eighty nine. I think he

1391
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 3: started in nineteen eighty. So your years on the radio

1392
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 3: are the same as mine, because my radio years ended.

1393
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 5: I said, you said I started in eighty. I started

1394
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 5: in ninete.

1395
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 3: I did say ninety. No, I know, I said ninety.

1396
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 3: You just can't hear anymore. Maybe it was eighty. Well,

1397
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 3: I'm talking to this is what I nine. Paul started

1398
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 3: in ninety, so roughly because I my show had been

1399
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 3: on for about a year and part of the reason

1400
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: that we had there are part timers that were doing

1401
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 3: it and people that were going to college and so on,

1402
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 3: and people doing this.

1403
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 2: That and the other thing, and just running through a lot.

1404
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 3: So and Jerry Bot fired as a producer from Your Shot,

1405
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 3: was actually the very first producer and then he kind

1406
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 3: of moved up into management. Here we had Karen was

1407
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 3: the next producer. I don't know if she cares when

1408
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 3: wanting her last name mentioned or not, but she she

1409
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 3: was young, and she was in Marquette at the time,

1410
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 3: and she's going on and had she has a successful career.

1411
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 5: She trained me.

1412
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 2: We had a guy named Barry who did the show

1413
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 2: for a while.

1414
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 3: He had numerous other jobs at WISN and then we

1415
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 3: had like two or three people who were just spot

1416
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 3: here and there, and then Paul came in and he's

1417
01:11:55,040 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 3: stuck and he lasted with it. So I just my

1418
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 3: own advice, based on my experience, is to not let

1419
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 3: people think that you're leaving or going anywhere. But what's

1420
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 3: happening all over radio is people are moving into other positions.

1421
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 3: Jay Webber has made the decision to do what I'm doing.

1422
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 3: He's taking The Winner off and is going to return

1423
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 3: as a podcaster. He'll be doing two days a week

1424
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 3: rather than three. He's taking the Winner off as well

1425
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 3: as I am, and his podcast will be released on

1426
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 3: Tuesdays and Fridays and mine when Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays,

1427
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 3: which has.

1428
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 2: A rhythm to it. The station.

1429
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 3: The company has not announced who my new producer is.

1430
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 3: I will say that it is somebody that the wis

1431
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 3: audio audience will be familiar with. It will unveil all

1432
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 3: of that on May first, but it will not be

1433
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 3: somebody foreign to the station, for.

1434
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 5: They haven't even told me Mark so Paul.

1435
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 3: So they haven't even told him, but I know who

1436
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 3: it is, but it is somebody that is affiliated with.

1437
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 5: I'm sure your podcast will be successful, and.

1438
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 3: Paul said, I'm sure. Well, I think there's a very

1439
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 3: good chance it'll be better. Well, well, we have no

1440
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 3: we have. I talked about the side by side comparison

1441
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 3: earlier on the program with regard to the h just

1442
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 3: don't let the new guy with regard Paul said, that'd

1443
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 3: be hilarious, but that would not be good with the

1444
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 3: side by side comparison to the cell phone abandons.

1445
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 2: I have no side by side comparison.

1446
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 3: Whether or not anybody better than you went through three

1447
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 3: or four people in the first year. Otherwise it's only

1448
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 3: been you.

1449
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

1450
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 3: David Michael's always claimed that he did a better job

1451
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 3: of producing the show than you did when he on

1452
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 3: the old radio.

1453
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 5: There's no way.

1454
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 3: He's sloppy, Paul, so that he's sloppy that there's no

1455
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 3: way on that. But you are now tell us what

1456
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 3: weekend shows.

1457
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 2: You do or what are you doing?

1458
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 3: And like I had, by the way, there's no gap

1459
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 3: on this that your these continue this coming week.

1460
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, not taking off.

1461
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 3: So there's nothing happening with regard to Paul here at

1462
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 3: the end of the year, as opposed to me going

1463
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 3: on my normal winter hiatus. But my podcast is ending

1464
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 3: and it's the perfect time for us to make this

1465
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 3: flip over.

1466
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 2: So which weekend shows do you do?

1467
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 5: Yes?

1468
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 6: And I've I started all of these shows. Mark, So

1469
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 6: Saturday the remodeling shows two hours. Then we go into

1470
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 6: a real estate show, Jeff Cohals retirement clinic, we do

1471
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 6: the designer yard show. I'm not boring you yet because

1472
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 6: you've all said these weekend self help shows.

1473
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: People know what we do, right.

1474
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 6: We sell the time to companies that pay for the show.

1475
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 6: They get commercials and then they do the programs.

1476
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 3: Whase I infomercials, but they're not fully information educational.

1477
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 2: They're not fully.

1478
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 3: Informercials in that see most infomercials, nobody connected with the

1479
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,879
Speaker 3: individual station does them. In the cases of the programs

1480
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 3: that we have, Jerry Bott does a couple of them.

1481
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 3: I think Paul hosts them, and it's identified as part

1482
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 3: of WISN. But there's a disclaimer put out at the

1483
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 3: beginning in the end that these are paid programs in

1484
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 3: which the advertisers are putting themselves out there, and they

1485
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,839
Speaker 3: expose themselves to the audience and then offer the advice

1486
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 3: and so on. And my guess is that they'll have

1487
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 3: you draft you into doing a couple of other things

1488
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 3: here at Wis.

1489
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 6: In addition, I should thank you for all the cruising

1490
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 6: years because because of that Mark, I get to now

1491
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 6: have my own crew.

1492
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 3: He's going to go, so his whole thing. This is

1493
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 3: why he couldn't talk. He's gonna go and take this thing. Now. Well,

1494
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 3: you can't plug your cruise because you'll leave in like

1495
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 3: five days or something.

1496
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 5: There is one in twenty seven though, so stay tune,

1497
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 5: you know.

1498
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 3: Yes, so he's been leading a cruise and people have

1499
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 3: asked you're ever going to do a cruise again. The

1500
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 3: one advantage that you have in not being married, as

1501
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 3: I am not and never have been, is I don't

1502
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 3: have to lock my feet and stow it on anything.

1503
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I can change it, I maybe at some

1504
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 3: point in the future, but it was just something I

1505
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 3: did every year. Plus it was always something that I

1506
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 3: did in the winter. Well, now the winner is the

1507
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 3: period of which I'm taking the break and I'm in

1508
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 3: Florida and just kind of have been there and done that,

1509
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 3: and we did that for over thirty years with Paul's

1510
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 3: now leading a cruise.

1511
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 2: And where are you going this year?

1512
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 6: Belize, Belieze close to Maya, Mexico, so it's a Caribbean cruise.

1513
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: But are about the civil war that just started there today?

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Speaker 5: Now we're avoiding all of that time.

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Speaker 2: I just made that up. There's no civil war going

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Speaker 2: on in Belize.

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Speaker 5: Next year to Lisbon, Portugal and Spain.

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Speaker 3: Portugal, all right, and that's enough plugging of your that's

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01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 3: enough plugging of your cruise. Are you working with your

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01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 3: wife in real estate or is that not.

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01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 5: Going No, she's the realtor.

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01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 6: But I am involved in some businesses that we own,

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01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 6: like storage units I think you've talked about.

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01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 3: So he's been doing that and the other thing and

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01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 3: keeping his three grand show grant. And the one thing

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01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 3: I think Paul and I can both say, I've ended

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01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 3: micro radio career but doing something very similar doing it

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01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 3: for the same company I did radio, is we got

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01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,839
Speaker 3: into radio and what was close to the golden age

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01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 3: of radio, and for a zillion reasons other than news

1531
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 3: talk stations like WYS and almost all of them are

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01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 3: hurting for a zillion reasons and WISN, which had incredible

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01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 3: host stability. We had the great lineup for the longest time.

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01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 3: There's now on transition because we're all hitting the same age.

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01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 3: Jay's a little bit younger than me, but he's gone.

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01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 3: Dan o'donald is you know, moved into my old radio

1537
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 3: shift this past year, and Benet will be taking over

1538
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 3: for Jay by hosting morning Drive. And I don't know

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01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:10,480
Speaker 3: that they've yeah, they've announced they have announced the replacement

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01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 3: for Ben in the mid day program.

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01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jason Gotch will be doing the match a day

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01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 6: show from nine until eleven, and uh Vicky still on

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01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 6: from two to three and then playing Buck in the

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01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 6: middle of the day.

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01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 2: It's a good one.

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01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 3: So I mean, it's it's they continue to have a

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01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 3: very very good lineup and so on, in addition to

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01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 3: all of the other programs that are out there. I

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01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 3: refused when I ended the radio program to do anything

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01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 3: that was sappy whatsoever. And I'm banning Paul from saying

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01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 3: anything sappy that was here. But Paul was obviously the

1552
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 3: most important part of the program that we had the

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01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 3: entire time that was on and so on and the

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01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 3: so he's gonna he's not going anywhere. He's not retiring,

1555
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 3: and he wouldn't be on this podcast for four months anyway.

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01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 3: And when I come back, there'll be a producer whose

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01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 3: name will be announced that and again I know who

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01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 3: it's going to be, but it has not been announced

1559
01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 3: in general to the staff and all of that. So

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01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 3: keep that hutched up again. Follow me on X and

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01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 3: I may. I'll probably pop up on a couple of

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01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 3: the radio shows around here and so on. If something

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01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 3: comes up during I.

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01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 5: Should publicly thank you Mark for everything I see.

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01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 3: I mean, there are some people that are narcissists. I

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01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 3: know that this sounds like I'm crowing. I am like

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01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 3: the opposite of a narcissist. You are a part of

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01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:29,560
Speaker 3: that is generational. I mean way more our parents' generation

1569
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 3: had that.

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01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:30,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I.

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01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 3: Know a fair number of people that served in World

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01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 3: War Two and not a damn would have never wanted to.

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01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 3: And I don't think it was just because of post

1574
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 3: traumatic stress and all of that.

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01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 2: They just didn't brag or bring up a thing.

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01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 3: They talk about it with their other buddies that were

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01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 3: in the war and so on, and I just I

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01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 3: mean I mentioned that the in all of the years

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01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 3: I did radio, and all the years that I've done

1580
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 3: the podcast, the number of times that's somebody from management

1581
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 3: walked down the hallway after where I shows and said

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01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 3: that was a really good show.

1583
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 5: Never, it's less than five never.

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01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 2: But part of that is the air that I put off,

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01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 2: like what do you want?

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01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 3: Why are you.

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01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 2: Telling me this?

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01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 5: So what I will stress when you're gone.

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01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 6: Though you do a great job on Twitter, which X

1590
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 6: it's a thing now, a thing daily tweet.

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01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 3: See now you keep saying that, I don't need to

1592
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 3: keep saying formally known as Twitter, but an incredible number

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01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 3: of people still call it Twitter.

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01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 5: We do because it's either to say tweet, what do

1595
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 5: you say XT?

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01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 3: Well, I say post, and that's what I hear Musk say,

1597
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 3: and it's the term that he Musk uses and he

1598
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 3: runs the thing. But I was inactive on Twitter in

1599
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 3: part because before Musk bought it and renamed it views

1600
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 3: like mine, you'd be blocked and banned and et cetera.

1601
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 3: The reason that you now you can now can post

1602
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 3: on there. But secondly, when he's taking this hiatus for

1603
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 3: four months, it was away for me to keep putting

1604
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 3: my information out there on things. And thirdly, it became

1605
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 3: a huge win. I didn't need to promote the show

1606
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 3: because you either knew about it or you didn't after

1607
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 3: all those years. But the podcast was a new thing.

1608
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 3: So every podcast that we do, I post on X

1609
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 3: is another way of being out there. But I mean,

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01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 3: I still catch the whole problem when you put something

1611
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 3: like that in writing, that's out there for all the

1612
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 3: critics to see. You put one little thing out of context,

1613
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 3: or say one thing that somebody may deem offensive, and

1614
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 3: it can be a career hunting kind of thing. It's

1615
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 3: it's a risky thing in which the sanctions still apply

1616
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 3: to people in the right far more than thee left.

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01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 3: You have any other parting words? No more thank you?

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01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 3: So any other parting words that you have? No just

1619
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 3: feel see as usual, very very little to say, which

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01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 3: is why it was not on there on the first one.

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01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 2: What else? What were you saying? Feeling?

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01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 5: Your word transitioning and transitioning.

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01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 3: We're transitioning, not reciting. I think if I transitioned to

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01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 3: a woman, I wouldn't.

1625
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 2: Be bad looking.

1626
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 3: You would be the ugliest woman that there ever could

1627
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 3: possibly be terrible.

1628
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 5: I got a big nose.

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01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 3: First of all, have you ever seen anyone who did

1630
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 3: transition that.

1631
01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 2: Did look good.

1632
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 5: Bruce Jenner likes Jenner slightly.

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01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 3: I hate to say that, but I mean he started

1634
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 3: as a good looking guy. You know what I'm saying, Well,

1635
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 3: he had to be a good looking guy. Look with

1636
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 3: you know all of these Kardashians, you know, and the

1637
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 3: last Kardashian was not the Kardashian that was his kid,

1638
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 3: but he married Missus Kardashian.

1639
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 2: Or he was a a cathlete.

1640
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 3: And so we've clearly run out of things to say,

1641
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 3: and indeed those will be the last words that you

1642
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 3: hear from me until May first. I don't to thank

1643
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 3: Paul for all of his contributions that we've made. And

1644
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 3: so when again the podcast returns May first, Paul isn't

1645
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 3: going anywhere. He'll still have a number of duties. And

1646
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 3: with that, we're out of time for this year. Season

1647
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 3: number one was spectacular. I'm not announcing anything, but we

1648
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 3: are going to be making some formatic changes in the

1649
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 3: second season of the podcast.

1650
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 2: And the way that we do it.

1651
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 3: But I'm not going to announce anything until we come

1652
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 3: around and start doing it in May.

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01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 2: Talk to you then.

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