WEBVTT - HR. 2 - Flipperhands

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<v Speaker 1>He must went over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Make his way.

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<v Speaker 1>You sure did, Yeah, just making my way into the fan. Muss, Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Muss.

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<v Speaker 3>I must say first, I mean you don't see.

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<v Speaker 4>Must great job this weekend. How's that you didn't well,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll let I'll let the coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit not playing with it in the crowd.

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<v Speaker 4>You didn't play the crowd, not one time? Good moie.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, well, a pocket pool but otherwise.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, but you weren't in a crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't in a crowd. No, that's a good point.

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<v Speaker 4>Good job, Thank you, thank you, thank you. We made

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<v Speaker 4>it first week, we made it back here we are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, Ben?

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<v Speaker 5>You mentioned on your Instagram video after the game yep,

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<v Speaker 5>that the last time the Vikings were shut out was

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<v Speaker 5>two thousand and seven, and that was a team that

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<v Speaker 5>you were one. Now, looking back to that game, why

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<v Speaker 5>didn't you score a touchdown?

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<v Speaker 1>I tried, I mean you're allowed to. I know, actually

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<v Speaker 1>you're not.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean the guy Ernest Jones or whatever his name is,

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<v Speaker 5>he did it yesterday. Why did you do that Invens.

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<v Speaker 1>Better than yeah? Oh come on, I tried my best.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 5>You admitted in the video you didn't even remember that game.

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<v Speaker 5>You didn't remember getting shut out? Yeah, I mean, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know whatever, it was the Packers, I guess too, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, surprisingly, yeah, two thousand and seven. Now basically what

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<v Speaker 6>right around this time he was like November eleven, two

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<v Speaker 6>thousand and seven against the Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean if you if I go back and

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<v Speaker 6>maybe look at the play sheet and go play by play,

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<v Speaker 6>I would I would probably conjure up some memories.

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<v Speaker 3>But no.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, so the Vikes had not been shut out since

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<v Speaker 5>two thousand and seven. I've seen two different numbers. My

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<v Speaker 5>guess is it's playoffs and non playoffs. Because this one

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<v Speaker 5>said they had gone two hundred and ninety four straight

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<v Speaker 5>games since getting shut out. That must be regular season.

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<v Speaker 5>That was the third longest active streak. Now we have

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<v Speaker 5>the shortest at zero consecutive games. Ben, do you know

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<v Speaker 5>who has the longest current active streak? The Vikings were

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<v Speaker 5>third longest. Who has the longest active streak of not

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<v Speaker 5>getting shut out?

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. Packers.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's what I would go with, just because of

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<v Speaker 6>just because it's like something that you would want.

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<v Speaker 3>To make us feel worse about our chiefs.

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<v Speaker 7>Russell Wilson, stop the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna name all thirty two here, Actually, twins.

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<v Speaker 5>You haven't named number two either Chicago bonsor Jesus ye Jesus,

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<v Speaker 5>the Lions it was Jesus. No, the Patriots, the Bears,

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<v Speaker 5>the Seahawks, still nobody's said, the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>The Commanders, Jets know they've been shut out there, the Rams,

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<v Speaker 1>the still no one has said it.

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<v Speaker 3>The Cowboys, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Raiders, they don't say.

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<v Speaker 3>The Chiefs, Yeah, Chiefs are yeah yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 4>No Bengals, Titans, Texans, Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 5>What if you guys are going to name thirty dollars

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<v Speaker 5>before getting the longest two streets Steelers.

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers are number.

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<v Speaker 4>Two at three oh eight Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 5>You still haven't gotten number one at three eighty three

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<v Speaker 5>and eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>Who could say games? Finally, the Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 8>God sake, that Ben showing off for your college. Yep,

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<v Speaker 8>yeah man, yeah, man yeah man.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Not only was that the again first shutout for the

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<v Speaker 5>Vikings since two thousand and seven, that was the first

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<v Speaker 5>time the Seahawks had shut out somebody since twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 5>so they hadn't posted a shout out in ten years.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Benjamin fun, did you get any leads? On whether

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<v Speaker 4>or not a JJ McCarthy would be back. Do you

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<v Speaker 4>have any leanings on that b if our center is

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<v Speaker 4>going to miss any significant time?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Boy, See if our young guard is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>back sometime soon, d if our tackle is going to

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<v Speaker 4>decide whether or not he wants to play.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh well, I don't know if that's like him his decision,

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<v Speaker 6>Like you don't think he's like choosing to sit out.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that injury. Is that not the case? I

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<v Speaker 4>thought that was hurt in the last game. I thought

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<v Speaker 4>it was being insinuated that he was being given the choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he had the foot injury. Yeah yeah, foot or

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<v Speaker 1>ankle or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't blame me, I'm just a reporter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Be nice, Please, no, don't be nice.

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<v Speaker 3>I like him.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that insinuated that it was this up to him

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<v Speaker 1>if he wants to play?

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<v Speaker 4>That was what I was inc he waited to who

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<v Speaker 4>insinuated in the insinuation to you, Bill Cosby.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't trust that guy him.

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<v Speaker 4>He gets one phone call a week.

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<v Speaker 6>And he calls you to talk about the Viking. Was

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<v Speaker 6>that before or after you guys sat down and had

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<v Speaker 6>that special drink? You know it was after mm hm,

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm not believing a word.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't need to drink no loose you are? You

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<v Speaker 1>know Cosby watches the flight tracker more than a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, what a psycho.

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<v Speaker 4>How long it is before the pilot passes out?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in that case, he should he probably should keep track.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's safety first. I actually think he Cosby is

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<v Speaker 1>the type of guy that would raw dog the flight.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, okay, yeah, wow, that's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>He won't be flying anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 6>So question A, I would expect mccarthur be back, like

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<v Speaker 6>I think that if you're if you're self reporting a

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<v Speaker 6>concussion on the flight home after you played a full game,

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<v Speaker 6>my guess is concussion is not super serious. So I

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<v Speaker 6>know everybody has their own healing time with these things.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm my guess is he'll be back. He'll be

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<v Speaker 6>back this week, he'll get full reps, all reps on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 6>and he'll be good to go.

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<v Speaker 1>B was what our left guard. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 6>I have no idea the severity of of Donovan's injury.

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<v Speaker 6>I will cross my fingers and hope he's back. The

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<v Speaker 6>fact that darisaw now you said, dearrisaw.

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<v Speaker 4>Was d who who was c was our center?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh was the center. That's interesting because I don't even

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<v Speaker 6>remember him going to the blue tent or really doing anything.

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<v Speaker 6>It would it wasn't anything notice significant.

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<v Speaker 9>Great big giant headgear that he's got on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he couldn't miss that. That Guardian helmet.

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<v Speaker 6>I know, the the marketing scheme that is the Guardian helmet.

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<v Speaker 4>We tell you that.

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<v Speaker 3>Cosby told me.

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<v Speaker 1>Guardian helpmeats.

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<v Speaker 6>We talked a lot helmets. Yeah, we've gone through the

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<v Speaker 6>whole gamut of helmets. He likes all kinds.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you don't need a guardian, that is what he said.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like signing this piece of paper.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need a guardian, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I saw a little bit of a dialogue that he

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<v Speaker 6>had with the training staff, and it was like they're

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<v Speaker 6>just having a conversation. I thought it was like he

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<v Speaker 6>dinged his head again, the way that they're just kind

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<v Speaker 6>of talking, and it wasn't like now, I obviously must

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<v Speaker 6>have missed it, but I didn't see him go back

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<v Speaker 6>to the blue tent. I didn't see him like standing up,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, having them look at his hip flexer like

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<v Speaker 6>do some exercises, do anything. It was just kind of

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<v Speaker 6>like this conversation and the trainers kind of step back,

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<v Speaker 6>had their own private conversation. I'm like, oh, there must

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<v Speaker 6>be nothing going on with this, because there wasn't like

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<v Speaker 6>they didn't like go over to the two Jurgons and

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<v Speaker 6>be like, oh, you gotta get ready and whatever. There

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<v Speaker 6>was like no dialogue at all after that, So I

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<v Speaker 6>was like, oh, maybe there's talking about something else.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a not a big deal. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>come to find out.

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<v Speaker 6>That I got the the report saying that he was

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<v Speaker 6>going to be questionable to return with or he was out.

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<v Speaker 1>With the hip injury. I'm like, huh, so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>No Brozmer and uh snaps with Jiggins and all on

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<v Speaker 3>the sideline.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing. Didn't see it, Yeah you would.

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<v Speaker 6>That doesn't mean that, like I don't I don't like

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<v Speaker 6>hover around the bench area unless I really really need to.

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<v Speaker 1>But there wasn't like a clamoring or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 6>And sometimes you know, Hawk even does a good job,

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<v Speaker 6>okay keeping eyes from from his perspective on some stuff

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<v Speaker 6>that's going on there.

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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 6>So I don't know if he's going to be in

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<v Speaker 6>or out this week, so that is still concerning. And

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<v Speaker 6>then I would think that that CD is going to

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<v Speaker 6>play based on the fact that he was limited I

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<v Speaker 6>think last week, and then he was kind of a

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<v Speaker 6>late scratch for this game.

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<v Speaker 4>Got it? What about let me put you in the spot.

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<v Speaker 4>What about young Adam feeling being a healthy scratch? Do

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<v Speaker 4>you have any insights on that?

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<v Speaker 6>I have no insights on that, and he doesn't reading

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<v Speaker 6>the old tea leaves does not look good, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that we've all wondered about his inclusion in

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<v Speaker 6>this offense and how much run he gets, and then

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<v Speaker 6>when he gets in there, it's not been super productive

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<v Speaker 6>and it's it is sort of marred with some drops

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<v Speaker 6>in there. So he hasn't been the most reliable when

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<v Speaker 6>he's been in there either. So it does seem like

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<v Speaker 6>everything was trending down, down, down, down, down to where

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<v Speaker 6>now he's a healthy scratch in yesterday's game.

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<v Speaker 3>What does that mean our sweep depth to a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, if you hear, if you hear, the thing

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<v Speaker 6>is like if you hear, listen to coach O'Connell after

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<v Speaker 6>the game. They asked him about it, and he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we have some injuries in other spots, we

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<v Speaker 6>have to elevate other people. So that just means, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we can only have so many in a nutshell like

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<v Speaker 6>and we can only have so many active players for

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<v Speaker 6>this game. We've been remarkably healthy at the receiver position.

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<v Speaker 6>If so facto, he he now becomes, well, we have

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<v Speaker 6>you can dress what forty eight guys?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you can dress forty eight guys for game day.

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<v Speaker 6>So you're telling me that he's the forty ninth and

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<v Speaker 6>fiftieth player on this roster.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not good. It's not good.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, in those situations if your vet, most vets

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<v Speaker 6>don't don't handle that very well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I questioned the longevity of him for the rest of

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<v Speaker 6>the season on this team.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, yeah, wow.

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<v Speaker 4>And do we know anything about THEO Jackson either. No,

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm going to ask you. Did anybody see

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<v Speaker 4>him on the list last week? Was he in on

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<v Speaker 4>the injury report? He was not on the injury report.

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<v Speaker 5>Now finally there's a question for the cause because Cosby knows.

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<v Speaker 1>All about THEO.

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<v Speaker 4>He does great point. Well, he calls me later today

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<v Speaker 4>I'll ask him.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't like how you have a nickname for why

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<v Speaker 7>does he call you on Mondays?

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<v Speaker 4>Because it's the only day he has access to the phone.

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<v Speaker 4>You know how jail works.

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<v Speaker 7>THEO Jackson was a limited participant all week with a

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<v Speaker 7>neck injury.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I did not see that.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there we go.

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<v Speaker 6>So I guess he's dealing with a neck injury. I

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<v Speaker 6>must have missed that. I actually I asked around. There's

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of people in the over today, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't even know he was injured.

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<v Speaker 1>So Benjamin, let me put you in another corner. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask the tough one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I'm badger.

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<v Speaker 5>May thirtieth of twenty twenty five, Quasi Adopha Mensa signed

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<v Speaker 5>a multi year extension with the Minnesota Vikings. Could it

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<v Speaker 5>still possibly be one and done with this new extension

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<v Speaker 5>and him not surviving this offseason?

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<v Speaker 9>Sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Tough question.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, I don't know why. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, look, we see it all the time, and we

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<v Speaker 6>see it all the time in sports, like there's there's

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<v Speaker 6>dead money on player contracts. There's dead money another you know,

0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:52.080
<v Speaker 6>personnel contracts, and you know I don't think that this

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<v Speaker 6>ownership is I don't think that they're in a position

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<v Speaker 6>where they have to do any anything that they they're

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<v Speaker 6>contractually bound and they they're gonna like say like, oh well,

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<v Speaker 6>we can't, we can't make changes because of contracts in

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<v Speaker 6>the way, Like I they're they're willing to make decisions

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<v Speaker 6>and part ways and do things that is they see fits.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think everything's on the table at this point

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<v Speaker 6>in time, and I I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised

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<v Speaker 6>if if there was something done there.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, Paul, your hands up, and we were just talking

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<v Speaker 5>about Quazy, So I don't think you're going to ask Woodhawks.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think this is an actual football follow football

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<v Speaker 5>follow Okay, Paul, your hands up.

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<v Speaker 7>Just like you said Core about how Broseberg didn't really

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<v Speaker 7>stake his claim to be the starting quarterback. What is

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<v Speaker 7>Quasy done to stake his claim to pick possibly a

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<v Speaker 7>fifth or six overall pick and help this team rebuild.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's not the only one making the pick.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but he's the GM I know saying. But I

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<v Speaker 7>think what my opinion is, I think he's going to

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<v Speaker 7>be the scapegoat of all of this. I would agree with.

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<v Speaker 7>I think he's going to be the one that's going

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<v Speaker 7>to take this. I mean all of those guys that

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<v Speaker 7>he signed. And it's not just him, it's a group effort.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean Will Fryes was that was his worst game yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>The two defensive tackles, I forgot they were on the team.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just the guys that they signed to bolster this team.

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<v Speaker 7>And you watched the Chicago Bears, who had the same

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<v Speaker 7>offseason plan. They had the same exact issues the Vikings have.

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<v Speaker 7>They're the number one seed in football, and they went

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<v Speaker 7>the trade route on getting Tuney in the other whoever

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<v Speaker 7>else they got as the interior of their offensive line,

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<v Speaker 7>same plan. They won a different route. We went this route,

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<v Speaker 7>and our route has failed miserably. And it doesn't help

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<v Speaker 7>that the quarterbacks are bad. And that's another thing. You

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<v Speaker 7>watch this roster and you go, man, those two guys

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<v Speaker 7>that we have, I mean they didn't have Wentz, but

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<v Speaker 7>like you know, we were gonna ride with McCarthy after

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<v Speaker 7>you have the two guys, and then whatever you want

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<v Speaker 7>to think of the Rogers rumors and however that whe

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<v Speaker 7>whoever said Noover said, yes, they let all that go

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<v Speaker 7>by and here we are. We've lost four st right,

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<v Speaker 7>and they haven't scored a touchdown in two games. Somebody's

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<v Speaker 7>going to take the fall. You don't just it's not

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<v Speaker 7>just status quo, right, But you're gonna be a underdog

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<v Speaker 7>in every game.

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<v Speaker 9>That's what leads you to who cares who's going to

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<v Speaker 9>be the quarterback next week?

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't, It doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>No losing is you should want to lose.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't think they have a choice. No, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>it's not one of those where oh you should tank it.

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<v Speaker 9>I just don't think you can win. They can't score no, right,

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<v Speaker 9>and then they put these quarterbacks, these young quarterbacks, in

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<v Speaker 9>such bad positions. Yeah, I mean you hear Koc talk

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<v Speaker 9>about explosives. Oh he missed this explosive. He could have

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<v Speaker 9>this explosion. Stop with the explosives.

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<v Speaker 3>Put everything in front of them.

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<v Speaker 9>Make it easy, Make it easy for these quarterbacks because

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<v Speaker 9>they need to have the game slow down. And if

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<v Speaker 9>you are just doing these long routes and everybody he

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<v Speaker 9>has to wait until someone gets open.

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<v Speaker 3>Now the route's so deep.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, just to me, it seems like I know

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<v Speaker 9>this is your offense, and your offense is fantastic, there

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<v Speaker 9>is no question. However, if you have players that can't

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<v Speaker 9>pull off what you're trying to do, they just don't

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<v Speaker 9>have the ability have to change your game plan.

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<v Speaker 3>You just have to. And they say nobody wants to,

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<v Speaker 3>but you have to. No, I'm not gonna all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden go into the box box.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know, and the potboy I'm going to hop in.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not not a skill set that I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Give you twenty bucks if you do.

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<v Speaker 9>No.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I've already called a couple of plays and it

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<v Speaker 3>was horrible.

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<v Speaker 6>I think all of these things are completely valid in

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<v Speaker 6>their conversations that that probably need to be had on them.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm guessing that they're having these conversations even at at TCOPC,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, behind closed doors. I mean, it's it's what

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<v Speaker 6>you have to do as an organization. Like they get

0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.680
<v Speaker 6>paid the big bucks, and that doesn't mean that you

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<v Speaker 6>just get to take all the accolades when things are good.

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<v Speaker 6>You gotta make tough decisions when things are bad. And

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<v Speaker 6>that that is the role of everybody over there that's

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<v Speaker 6>a high level decision maker, whether you're in personnel, whether

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<v Speaker 6>you're in coaching, whatever it is, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I think that when you win it just look, I

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<v Speaker 6>was on a lot of winning teams.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go back to that twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, easy, easy, easy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a larger point here.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a larger point here that we knew that there

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<v Speaker 6>were some issues in two thousand and nine with our team.

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<v Speaker 6>We did, I mean the way that the organization just

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<v Speaker 6>sort of worked internally. But when you win, all that

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<v Speaker 6>gets brushed under the rug. Things don't get addressed because

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<v Speaker 6>you're winning games. However you're winning, whether it's your your

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<v Speaker 6>one Hall of Fame quarterback that you have, whether you

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<v Speaker 6>know sometimes it's our defense playing well, whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 6>those things mask all of the warts that that are obvious.

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<v Speaker 6>But when you lose all of things, all of those

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<v Speaker 6>things get magnified and you can't ignore it. So what

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<v Speaker 6>are they going to do? That is the question that

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<v Speaker 6>we all want to know. We know that there are issues.

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<v Speaker 6>We know there are issues with performance across the board.

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<v Speaker 6>Is it execution? Is it lack of skill? Is it

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<v Speaker 6>lack of talent? If those are the issues that you

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<v Speaker 6>see as well and you identify, then yes, something has

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<v Speaker 6>to change. Changes have to be made, and they'll probably

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<v Speaker 6>you know, obviously not going to make those changes in

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<v Speaker 6>the season. But when the season is over, I would

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<v Speaker 6>expect hard decisions to be made across this organization.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh great, So.

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<v Speaker 5>Give me the the teacher that changed your life the most,

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<v Speaker 5>specifically senior year when you didn't bring.

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<v Speaker 1>A backpack, mister Goldner.

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<v Speaker 5>Is he the one that found you away onto the

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<v Speaker 5>football team even though your grades weren't good enough. No,

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<v Speaker 5>that was mister Headstrom. He was probably a team effort

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<v Speaker 5>to get you on that squad. Oh yeah, a team

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<v Speaker 5>effort to get you to quit.

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<v Speaker 7>I played two games after that, and so changing my

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<v Speaker 7>grade didn't do a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do much.

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<v Speaker 7>And then when you know, when I get told you're

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<v Speaker 7>not any good, most people would go, oh, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>proven wrong, You're right.

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<v Speaker 5>Harder, some kind of montage video with you lifting logs

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<v Speaker 5>in the woods to get stronger, not quit?

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<v Speaker 1>You quit?

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<v Speaker 4>Can we do a quick fan five because we're way

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<v Speaker 4>behind us?

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<v Speaker 3>Goodness getting for.

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<v Speaker 9>A fan five on the Power Trip presented by All Around.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 7>Your Vikings lost twenty six nothing to the Seahawks.

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<v Speaker 1>They play the Commanders next week.

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<v Speaker 7>They lost twenty seven to twenty six to the Broncos

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<v Speaker 7>in overtime. Week thirteen ends tonight with the two and

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<v Speaker 7>ten Giants battling the ten and two Patriots At seven

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<v Speaker 7>point fifteen. The Pats are minus seven. The Gophers kept

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<v Speaker 7>the acts by beating Wisconsin seventeen to seven. The Wolves

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<v Speaker 7>beat the Spurs one twenty five to one to twelve

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<v Speaker 7>for their second consecutive victory over an above five hundred team,

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<v Speaker 7>and had thirty two. They battle the Pelicans tomorrow at seven.

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<v Speaker 7>The Wild are at the Oilers tomorrow at eight, and

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<v Speaker 7>LSU is hiring former Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffen.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that was a very quick fan five a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that you will yeah wow, like an auctioneer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>One thing that I think I have this correctly about

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<v Speaker 6>Lane Kiffen that hasn't been talked about much. I guess

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<v Speaker 6>part of his deal and this is the confusing part

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<v Speaker 6>because I thought the whole NIL thing was sort of

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<v Speaker 6>going away with the new revenue share. But I guess

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<v Speaker 6>he has worked in the contract at LSU. He gets

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<v Speaker 6>twenty five million a year in NIL alone. That that

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<v Speaker 6>that gets that's every year, that's every year for his

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<v Speaker 6>seven years.

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<v Speaker 1>Every year he gets to dole out.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he gets replenished every year that he gets to

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<v Speaker 6>spend twenty five million to buy players whoa good for him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep wow.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean listen, if you can get it, you can

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<v Speaker 6>get it. I think if there's a if there's a

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<v Speaker 6>giant canary in the coal mine right now, it's that

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<v Speaker 6>right there, Like this system is absolutely broken.

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<v Speaker 3>That yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean whoever the GM is, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if that's an official, but the fact

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<v Speaker 6>that that the football department gets twenty five million per

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<v Speaker 6>year to sign players.

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<v Speaker 5>Ye sauce, Yeah, go ahead, do your best to explain

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<v Speaker 5>the metaphor a canary in a coal mine.

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<v Speaker 7>I think a canary in a coal mine is if

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<v Speaker 7>you see one dead, it's bad. No, Like, isn't that

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<v Speaker 7>the thing though? Like they have it down there because

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<v Speaker 7>like there's no oxygen.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that the bit?

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<v Speaker 4>You got that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? You got it right, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>You did it. It just sounded funny. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>canary and it's dead, that's bad. Well no, but that

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, especially if you're the canary. You saw one, now,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd go, oh, that bird died.

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<v Speaker 7>But if you're in a coal mine and you see

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<v Speaker 7>one dead, you're like, we should go back because there's

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<v Speaker 7>no oxygen down here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's over any more. Brainbusters.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, what if you saw a canary on the fifth

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<v Speaker 5>floor here at iHeart?

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<v Speaker 1>What if you saw a box elder bug.

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<v Speaker 4>Like we hired a new salesperson.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be like, wow, there's a burden here. Must be

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<v Speaker 1>doing a bit. It's a live that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's good, thank you, Yeah, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's uh, that's good. Okay, good Vikings news is next time?

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<v Speaker 1>Ask Gary Traffic Center.

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, the Fan. That's us and the Vikings. That's a

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<v Speaker 10>football team. We're teaming up for toys for tots. Will

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<v Speaker 10>be at Shields and eating prayer tomorrow sitting at five thirty.

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<v Speaker 10>Will be there till six thirty pm. Yeah, let's see

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<v Speaker 11>Right, Well, your MIC's on down, Tony, Yeah, Tony, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>that sounds like beads.

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<v Speaker 4>It does. Yeah, trying to start a lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't know. I wouldn't do that, all right, let's

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 1>do Viking to all.

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<v Speaker 5>The transition from manal beads K.

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<v Speaker 3>Was heavily implied implied. I was so confused.

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<v Speaker 5>So Benjamin lost in the shuffle. Right, like a week

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 5>or so ago. JJ McCarthy posted just terrible numbers, right,

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 5>it was like a thirty five passer rating or something.

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<v Speaker 5>In the world, including me and everybody else, said, can't

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<v Speaker 5>get any worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's put the kid.

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<v Speaker 5>In then the kid posted like a thirty two passer rating,

0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:50.920
<v Speaker 5>and then everybody last week, and then everybody last night said,

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, if you just snapped the ball and spiked

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<v Speaker 5>it into the ground, you'd have a better passer rating,

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<v Speaker 5>which I guess is mathematic accurate, but lost in the

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<v Speaker 5>shuffle there is.

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<v Speaker 1>Shouldn't that mean that we need to.

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<v Speaker 5>Figure out a different formula, because if dropping back and

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:12.639
<v Speaker 5>throwing it right into the dirt thirty consecutive times is

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<v Speaker 5>a better rating than what Brozemer and McCarthy did, then

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 5>the formula is bad because turning over five times, but

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 5>that should be a zero. If you go zero for

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 5>thirty with zero yards, that should be a zero passer rating.

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<v Speaker 1>I could do that.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't do what McCarthy or Brozemer did, which is

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<v Speaker 5>get some yards.

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<v Speaker 1>It should be a zero.

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<v Speaker 6>So you, like Celsius like this whole like water freezing

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 6>at thirty two, Like you're like, if that's the bottom,

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 6>that should.

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<v Speaker 1>Be Zeroah, sure, I'm with you on that. Well, it's

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 1>it's it's one of those fun stats.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, everybody that's saying you'd have a better rating if

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 5>you just throw it into the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's right, but that means the formula's flawed.

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<v Speaker 4>Say that, to be fair, He's the only person I've

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 4>heard say yeah, I stand by it. You do keep

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:02.879
<v Speaker 4>standing by it.

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<v Speaker 1>You stand by a lot of things. I do.

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<v Speaker 4>Wish you'd stand by the road and.

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:09.440
<v Speaker 1>People.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, in front of a train, not a moving train.

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 5>I doesn't want to get hit by Hawk was in

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 5>when he was in a training statue like a picture.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, by that train, you're gonna be involved.

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Or stand at the end of the train with Tommy.

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<v Speaker 5>Please sing drops Jupiter, God terrible, stop off God, God terrible.

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 5>Just a brutal song.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to argue about train.

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<v Speaker 6>Nails on a chalkboard because so let's go back to

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<v Speaker 6>that real quick before we really dive into the Viking stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>So if you look at the QBR, the quarterback rating,

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 6>so there is it like getting points on a test

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<v Speaker 6>for just writing your name because.

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<v Speaker 1>Passer rate in QBR, right, it's a lot of times like.

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<v Speaker 5>You are you also get credit for like yards per

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<v Speaker 5>attempt and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So sometimes I think which one is.

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 5>It is a QBR that also factors in like throwaways.

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<v Speaker 1>Or do they both PBR?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I don't know if it's just like ESPN's way

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<v Speaker 6>of saying, like, well, we have our own metric and

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<v Speaker 6>that's what we're going to do.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing that ESPN did that was smart when they

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 5>came up with the QBR is max it out at

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 5>a hundred, right that a perfect score is one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>as opposed to one fifty eight point three, which confuses everybody. Yeah,

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:36.439
<v Speaker 5>but I don't understand why either of them would have

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.400
<v Speaker 5>a score be better than zero. If you go over

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<v Speaker 5>thirty with thirty spikes, well that makes sense.

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.720
<v Speaker 6>That's that's that's what I'm saying, Like you're getting credit

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 6>as a quarterback just.

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<v Speaker 5>For fielding for not turning the ball over, for fielding

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<v Speaker 5>the snap right, for.

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<v Speaker 4>Not turning the ball over. Yet you're not turning the

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 4>ball over. Yes, that's the big one.

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<v Speaker 1>Which which is man? Was it yesterday?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it was even so far away?

0:26:57.520 --> 0:26:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Was it?

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe it was Greg Olsen even Yeah, I think it

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<v Speaker 5>was talking about the Seahawks.

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 1>So the Seahawks don't turn the ball over much.

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 5>And it's what we always talk about with like quarterbacks

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.880
<v Speaker 5>like Brett Favre, it is okay to have an interception

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 5>once in a while.

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>That means you're aggressive.

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 5>No one's asking for forty touchdowns and zero picks. That's

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 5>actually probably not the most efficient football. That means you're

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 5>not taking enough chances.

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 9>It does depend on how it looks though as well.

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 9>I mean he's correct'm probably a contested ball up. That's

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 9>one thing, but another when you're just sailing one into

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:28.160
<v Speaker 9>somebody else.

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 5>Again, you go back a handful of weeks when when

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 5>McCarthy threw the fifty to fifty ball to JJ, and

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 5>JJ got his feet tangled up and then the ball

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 5>got picked off, and then we all argued about whether

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 5>or not they should have thrown it to them because

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 5>it was third and fourth, third and one or fourth

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<v Speaker 5>and whatever it was. Yeah, but I still will go

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 5>back and go, yeah, but there's nothing wrong with once

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 5>in a while throwing a fifty to fifty ball to

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 5>the best receiver in football. If it gets picked off

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 5>once in a while, you have to live with that,

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 5>that's fine. Nobody's expecting perfection. We just haven't seen anything

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 5>close to adequate essentially this year outside of Carson wentz Andon,

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 5>and Carson was never spectacular. He was just very adequate.

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 5>It was solid. He wasn't lighting it up. But he

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 5>wasn't just completely killing you like these two kids are.

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>He was giving us a chance.

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 5>He was giving you a chance, and he was hurt right,

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 5>and they were asking him to go out there with

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 5>like one arm, barely the arm.

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 1>That you can even throw with.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you should kick a couple of balls, because

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 5>why not anyway, So what do you do with the quarterback? Ben?

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 5>Like you said earlier, we may be damned if we do,

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:28.439
<v Speaker 5>damned if we don't. But what do you do if

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 5>if McCarthy's healthy, that's the only option.

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>That's the only option.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's the the thing is, Like, as much

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 6>as I all I wanted from yesterday, just from a

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 6>fan standpoint, was create a quarterback controversy, brosmur go out

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 6>there and light up the world and you know, show

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 6>everybody that you can play quarterback and that the quote

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 6>unquote system works. I know that even in that scenario,

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 6>you'd still have to start McCarthy because you have to

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 6>know what you're going to get out of your first

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 6>round investment. I get all that, but it'd be a

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 6>lot of fun if we could be having these conversations

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<v Speaker 6>about like I don't know, I'm a Broseburg guy. I'm

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 6>a McCarthy guy. We gotta get like like that's fun

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 6>for everybody. That keeps the rest of the season interesting.

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 6>What happened yesterday was well, I guess we go back

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 6>to McCarthy and that's that's how we feel. It's you

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 6>can't go back out there with bros. Mur I mean,

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean obviously unless unless McCarthy doesn't pass any sort

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 6>of concussion tests, you don't. I don't think you're gonna

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 6>go to Warford or Wallford. Like he looks like he's

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 6>an eighth grader out there. I mean, he's I don't

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 6>even know if he's six foot tall, So.

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 7>I'm not like I saw him of the sidelines and

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 7>I'm like, not the short king sling correct.

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 1>Let Napoleon throw the football.

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, Napoleon, Napoleon Dynamoe my Danny DeVito chuck. Oh god,

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 12>I would watch that for sure, against the commander who cares.

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 1>He can't get any worse.

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't need to seem door fun football.

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh see there, you guys have so many good ideas.

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>This would all be more entertaining than yesterday. It was

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>eighty one. So what frank Man, we need a veteran leader.

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 4>We need somebody else take experience.

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let it.

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 5>Just like we talked about last week that even if

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.479
<v Speaker 5>Brozemer didn't work, it was just gonna be exciting to

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 5>try something else. Now it backfired big time next week

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 5>against the Commanders, the veto runs out of the tunnel, they'd.

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Lose their minds.

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 3>He's dressed up like the penguin.

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 5>Right, oswas like the penguin because he was the penguin.

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 5>But the Vikings, well so far McCarthy and Brosemar throw

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 5>like they have flipper hands.

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, why not let the sling it?

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, let me ask you, Let me ask you guys this,

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 6>what's his face?

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you guys this.

0:30:55.920 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 6>Take take away the result of the throw. We know

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 6>that we gave the ball away five times yesterday we

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 6>had four interceptions like but from but from a breaking

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 6>of the hubble, receiving of the ball, progressions through the

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 6>passing routes. Was there one or the other that you

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 6>guys thought was like more pleasing that seemed like, oh,

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 6>this actually looks like high level quarterbacking.

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 9>Rosemann got rid of the ball way faster than jj

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 9>JJ holds.

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Out of the ball.

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, way too long. Yeah, JJ hangs on to it.

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 7>Wait, there were multiple times when JJ starts, We're like,

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 7>just throw the football.

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 4>If they were both first round picks or both free agents,

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 4>and you told me which would I rather see play?

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 4>After watching these games, I'd rather see Brosman. But that's

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 4>not the point. Yeah, one's a first round draft pick

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 4>and one didn't get drafted, right, that's to me, that's

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 4>the determining factor if if the concussions not in play.

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.479
<v Speaker 6>Now, again, as best as you can, you are correct,

0:31:58.520 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 6>I think the answer is gonna be the same. But

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 6>the as you can, let's just say that Brose Murmer

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 6>was from the University of New Hampshire and never went

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 6>to University of Minnesota. He probably would feel well, no,

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 6>I'm just saying like he's on the team. But but

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 6>do you still feel the same way. Yeah, but the

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 6>team doesn't think that way. I mean as far as.

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 9>Conversation, yes, absolutely, But I mean they're not going to

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 9>just go, well he was one.

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 6>No, I know that, But like I think, I do

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 6>think that there is that that emotional connection to a

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 6>lot of the fans.

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 4>Must your break, He's very combative.

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 3>The spec.

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 5>Sassy, where did Vito play college football again.

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean Tommy Davito.

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 4>I think junior High.

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 5>I think it's it's sauces take on the McCarthy fastball.

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 5>Is what's hard to watch is the brosemurv pass to

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 5>Addison that got dropped. I'm like, man, that's a good

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 5>looking spiral, nice pace, that's a super catchable ball, and

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 5>he dropped it.

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, man, we need more of that.

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 5>So like that's the play that like Man brosemur can

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 5>it and then it got dropped, and then it felt

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 5>like the whole rest of the game he just didn't

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 5>have confidence in his wide.

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Receivers and vice versa.

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 5>So I would still slightly lean towards Brozemers an easier

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 5>watch the rocket ball out of McCarthy gets frustrated.

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 4>Can I ask you to answer your own question, Ben,

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 4>because you know better than any of us.

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 6>I like the athleticism more of McCarthy. I think that

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 6>he is more athletic. I think he gives us more

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 6>of a chance in a pocket that's collapsing to make

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 6>a play. Now does he Is he accurate on the run?

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 6>I mean I would actually, I would actually contest the

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 6>fact that I think that he's he gives you a

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 6>better chance when he's actually outside the pocket out and

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 6>he doesn't have to think about planting his feet and

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 6>his footwidth and his shoulder the playing of his shoulders

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 6>and all this other stuff, like if he's even thinking

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<v Speaker 6>about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But everybody else seems to think that he's thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 6>So I actually think that even though he can be

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<v Speaker 6>an accurate outside the pocket, I think he gives us

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 6>a better chance when he's on the run.

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<v Speaker 1>He plays a little bit more backyard football.

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<v Speaker 6>It looks a little bit more aesthetically pleasing when he's

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<v Speaker 6>outside the pocket and he's making he's trying to make plays.

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 6>I mean the touchdown that he had to Hawkinson in

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<v Speaker 6>the in the Green Bay game where he gets outside

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 6>the pocket and he was no.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the Lions game.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the Lions game where he gets outside the

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 6>pocket and throws a dart, you know, hits him right

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<v Speaker 6>between the numbers, Like that, to me is better. I

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 6>liked Brozmer the way that he processed better. I like

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 6>his progressions were snappier, and you heard it from Koc

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 6>that it was almost too snappy, like he was actually

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<v Speaker 6>going past guys that were open where I think McCarthy

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 6>is slow to read some of that stuff. The one

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 6>stat that I thought was really interesting, again going back

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 6>to all the PFF hunters out there that only have

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 6>football takes based on statistics, is that going into the

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:56.439
<v Speaker 6>Packers game, they said, again using analytics to support this point,

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<v Speaker 6>that McCarthy had the fifth highest average time to throw

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<v Speaker 6>in the pocket. So if you want to talk about

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 6>offensive line not playing well and not give him a

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 6>chance going into that game and the games that he played,

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:12.280
<v Speaker 6>he actually had lots of time to throw the football

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 6>and that's the results we got. So if we have

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:18.840
<v Speaker 6>a healthy offensive line, and you know, Brozemer gets like

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:20.839
<v Speaker 6>a lot more reps and he gets a lot more

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 6>comfortable with that same offensive line that McCarthy's had, I

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 6>think that there might be a higher level of quarterbacking

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.720
<v Speaker 6>going on. But as far as athleticism and arm strength,

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 6>then I'd have.

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>To go with McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, I know you asked in terms of hypothetically, right,

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 5>because McCarthy was a first round pick that we technically

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 5>traded up for and Max Brosmer is undrafted, right, But

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 5>not to keep using the tree lance proc party thing,

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.800
<v Speaker 5>because I think it's the most recent and best example.

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 5>I think it's exactly what everybody was kind of experiencing

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 5>this week. Is McCarthy's a first round pick, Brosmer's undrafted.

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 5>This is the closest thing we've seen in a while.

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 5>Once the roster is set, you would hope, and I

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 5>think most teams try everything they can. They try to

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<v Speaker 5>forget where they were drafted and just say, well, who's better? Correct,

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 5>because again, according to the Niners, Lore Lance was there

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 5>a year, Rock Perdy gets there, and Shanahan knew in

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 5>training camp.

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 1>That Perdy was better.

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 5>So you have to as quickly as you possibly can

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 5>as a head coach, as a GM, as an organization,

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 5>go all right, I know so and so is the

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 5>guy that we invested a whole bunch of picks in,

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 5>we invested time in.

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 1>This is our future. But we already know he doesn't

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 1>have it.

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying they already are saying McCarthy doesn't have it,

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 5>and I'm not saying they think Brozmer's the guy, but

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 5>they have to forget immediately where those two were drafted

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 5>or not drafted, and just say who's better. If they

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 5>think it's McCarthy and I think they probably still think

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 5>it is. Then they have to go back to him

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 5>as quickly as possible. But you got to forget where

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 5>they were picked, right, it doesn't matter anymore?

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<v Speaker 6>No, No, I think you're right. It does not matter.

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 6>It should not matter anymore. I mean, well, I mean

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:12.439
<v Speaker 6>it it does for this season. It matters where they're

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 6>drafted for the rest of this season, yes, for sure.

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 6>Going to the next offseason, then all of that's off

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 6>the table and you just you you have to evaluate

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 6>whoever they bring in. It does not matter. It has

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 6>to be a true, true competition because you know, when

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 6>he got injured his rookie year, a lot of people

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:35.800
<v Speaker 6>are saying that it was neck and neck and he

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 6>was actually leading by a nose against Darnold in this

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 6>supposed competition through the offseason through training camp. If that's

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 6>what it takes to get the best out of him,

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 6>is to constantly press him with competition, then we have

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 6>to bring in competition for the betterment of the team

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 6>and the betterment of himself.

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 5>Do you think mac Jones would come here in a

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 5>Daniel Jones situation because Jones went to Indianapolis expecting to compete.

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 5>It ans Richardson for the job and he won it.

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 5>You think mac Jones would come here if they said,

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 5>look at you and McCarthy and it's a it's a

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 5>coin flip, like, if you're gonna do it, you're gonna

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 5>have to beat him out.

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Probably not.

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna guess that his agent's gonna say, I advise

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 6>you to go to a team though you're you're basically

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.479
<v Speaker 6>you're gonna starter and you're gonna get starting money.

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 3>He's a positives he needs you.

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 7>Got a trade for him, though he would he's he's

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 7>got one year left on his contract. You could trade

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 7>for mac Jones quick.

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean.

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<v Speaker 3>In this game, Dallas Turner, what a game that guy had.

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 9>He's leading sack tied right, Yeah, he's got four in

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 9>the last three games. And maybe the funniest thing I've

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 9>ever seen when they thought that they the Seahawks were

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.320
<v Speaker 9>going to do the tush push and L d R

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 9>lays down on the ground and then they shifted out

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 9>of it.

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:53.920
<v Speaker 3>His realization like, well they're not doing that, Okay, I

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 3>gotta get back up. Give him a lot. I was

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:59.879
<v Speaker 3>cracking up when I saw that. Positive stuff. Guys, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>How the positivity is thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to play that Jalen Naylor interview that you

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<v Speaker 4>did in the locker room and ask you about what

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 4>he said about the cadence situation when we come back.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, sounds good.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, More with ben leeber More Vikings discussion after

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