1 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: He must went over there. 2 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Make his way. 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: You sure did, Yeah, just making my way into the fan. Muss, Ben, 4 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Ben Muss. 5 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: I must say first, I mean you don't see. 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 4: Must great job this weekend. How's that you didn't well, 7 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 4: I'll let I'll let the coach. 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Hit not playing with it in the crowd. 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 4: You didn't play the crowd, not one time? Good moie. 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: I mean, well, a pocket pool but otherwise. 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 4: Well, but you weren't in a crowd. 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: You weren't in a crowd. No, that's a good point. 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 4: Good job, Thank you, thank you, thank you. We made 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 4: it first week, we made it back here we are you. 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: Know, Ben? 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 5: You mentioned on your Instagram video after the game yep, 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 5: that the last time the Vikings were shut out was 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 5: two thousand and seven, and that was a team that 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 5: you were one. Now, looking back to that game, why 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 5: didn't you score a touchdown? 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: I tried, I mean you're allowed to. I know, actually 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: you're not. 23 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 5: I mean the guy Ernest Jones or whatever his name is, 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 5: he did it yesterday. Why did you do that Invens. 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: Better than yeah? Oh come on, I tried my best. 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: I like that. 27 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 5: You admitted in the video you didn't even remember that game. 28 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 5: You didn't remember getting shut out? Yeah, I mean, you. 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: Know whatever, it was the Packers, I guess too, right. 30 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, surprisingly, yeah, two thousand and seven. Now basically what 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 6: right around this time he was like November eleven, two 32 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 6: thousand and seven against the Packers. 33 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't remember that. 34 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean if you if I go back and 35 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 6: maybe look at the play sheet and go play by play, 36 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 6: I would I would probably conjure up some memories. 37 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: But no. 38 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 5: Sure, so the Vikes had not been shut out since 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 5: two thousand and seven. I've seen two different numbers. My 40 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 5: guess is it's playoffs and non playoffs. Because this one 41 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 5: said they had gone two hundred and ninety four straight 42 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 5: games since getting shut out. That must be regular season. 43 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 5: That was the third longest active streak. Now we have 44 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 5: the shortest at zero consecutive games. Ben, do you know 45 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 5: who has the longest current active streak? The Vikings were 46 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 5: third longest. Who has the longest active streak of not 47 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 5: getting shut out? 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: But I don't know. Packers. 49 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I would go with, just because of 50 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 6: just because it's like something that you would want. 51 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: To make us feel worse about our chiefs. 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 7: Russell Wilson, stop the Broncos. 53 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna name all thirty two here, Actually, twins. 54 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 5: You haven't named number two either Chicago bonsor Jesus ye Jesus, 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 5: the Lions it was Jesus. No, the Patriots, the Bears, 56 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 5: the Seahawks, still nobody's said, the Giants. 57 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: The Commanders, Jets know they've been shut out there, the Rams, 58 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: the still no one has said it. 59 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: The Cowboys, the. 60 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 4: Raiders, they don't say. 61 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: The Chiefs, Yeah, Chiefs are yeah yeah, the. 62 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: No Bengals, Titans, Texans, Jacksonville. 63 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 5: What if you guys are going to name thirty dollars 64 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 5: before getting the longest two streets Steelers. 65 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: Steelers are number. 66 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: Two at three oh eight Atlanta. 67 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 5: You still haven't gotten number one at three eighty three 68 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 5: and eighties. 69 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: Who could say games? Finally, the Baltimore. 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 8: God sake, that Ben showing off for your college. Yep, 71 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 8: yeah man, yeah, man yeah man. 72 00:03:59,600 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: Uh. 73 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 5: Not only was that the again first shutout for the 74 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 5: Vikings since two thousand and seven, that was the first 75 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 5: time the Seahawks had shut out somebody since twenty fifteen, 76 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 5: so they hadn't posted a shout out in ten years. 77 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 4: Hey, Benjamin fun, did you get any leads? On whether 78 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 4: or not a JJ McCarthy would be back. Do you 79 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 4: have any leanings on that b if our center is 80 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: going to miss any significant time? 81 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: Oh? 82 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: Boy, See if our young guard is going to be 83 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 4: back sometime soon, d if our tackle is going to 84 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 4: decide whether or not he wants to play. 85 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 6: Oh well, I don't know if that's like him his decision, 86 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 6: Like you don't think he's like choosing to sit out. 87 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 4: I thought that injury. Is that not the case? I 88 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 4: thought that was hurt in the last game. I thought 89 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 4: it was being insinuated that he was being given the choice. 90 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah he had the foot injury. Yeah yeah, foot or 91 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: ankle or something like that. 92 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 4: Don't blame me, I'm just a reporter. 93 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 94 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: Be nice, Please, no, don't be nice. 95 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 3: I like him. 96 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: Was that insinuated that it was this up to him 97 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: if he wants to play? 98 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: That was what I was inc he waited to who 99 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 4: insinuated in the insinuation to you, Bill Cosby. 100 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust that guy him. 101 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: He gets one phone call a week. 102 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 6: And he calls you to talk about the Viking. Was 103 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 6: that before or after you guys sat down and had 104 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 6: that special drink? You know it was after mm hm, 105 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 6: So I'm not believing a word. 106 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: You didn't need to drink no loose you are? You 107 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: know Cosby watches the flight tracker more than a minute. 108 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what a psycho. 109 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: How long it is before the pilot passes out? 110 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: Well, in that case, he should he probably should keep track. 111 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: That's that's safety first. I actually think he Cosby is 112 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: the type of guy that would raw dog the flight. 113 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 8: Okay, okay, yeah, wow, that's all right. 114 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: He won't be flying anytime soon. 115 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 116 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 6: So question A, I would expect mccarthur be back, like 117 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 6: I think that if you're if you're self reporting a 118 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 6: concussion on the flight home after you played a full game, 119 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 6: my guess is concussion is not super serious. So I 120 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 6: know everybody has their own healing time with these things. 121 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 6: But I'm my guess is he'll be back. He'll be 122 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 6: back this week, he'll get full reps, all reps on Wednesday, 123 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 6: and he'll be good to go. 124 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: B was what our left guard. I have no idea. 125 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 6: I have no idea the severity of of Donovan's injury. 126 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 6: I will cross my fingers and hope he's back. The 127 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 6: fact that darisaw now you said, dearrisaw. 128 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 4: Was d who who was c was our center? 129 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 6: Oh was the center. That's interesting because I don't even 130 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 6: remember him going to the blue tent or really doing anything. 131 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 6: It would it wasn't anything notice significant. 132 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 9: Great big giant headgear that he's got on. 133 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he couldn't miss that. That Guardian helmet. 134 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 6: I know, the the marketing scheme that is the Guardian helmet. 135 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 4: We tell you that. 136 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: Cosby told me. 137 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: Guardian helpmeats. 138 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 6: We talked a lot helmets. Yeah, we've gone through the 139 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 6: whole gamut of helmets. He likes all kinds. 140 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't need a guardian, that is what he said. 141 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: He's like signing this piece of paper. 142 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: You don't need a guardian, right. 143 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 144 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 6: I saw a little bit of a dialogue that he 145 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 6: had with the training staff, and it was like they're 146 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 6: just having a conversation. I thought it was like he 147 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 6: dinged his head again, the way that they're just kind 148 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 6: of talking, and it wasn't like now, I obviously must 149 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 6: have missed it, but I didn't see him go back 150 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 6: to the blue tent. I didn't see him like standing up, 151 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 6: you know, having them look at his hip flexer like 152 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 6: do some exercises, do anything. It was just kind of 153 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 6: like this conversation and the trainers kind of step back, 154 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 6: had their own private conversation. I'm like, oh, there must 155 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 6: be nothing going on with this, because there wasn't like 156 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 6: they didn't like go over to the two Jurgons and 157 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 6: be like, oh, you gotta get ready and whatever. There 158 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 6: was like no dialogue at all after that, So I 159 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 6: was like, oh, maybe there's talking about something else. 160 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: It's not a not a big deal. And then I 161 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: come to find out. 162 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 6: That I got the the report saying that he was 163 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 6: going to be questionable to return with or he was out. 164 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: With the hip injury. I'm like, huh, so I don't know. 165 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: No Brozmer and uh snaps with Jiggins and all on 166 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: the sideline. 167 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: Nothing. Didn't see it, Yeah you would. 168 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 6: That doesn't mean that, like I don't I don't like 169 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 6: hover around the bench area unless I really really need to. 170 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: But there wasn't like a clamoring or anything like that. 171 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 6: And sometimes you know, Hawk even does a good job, 172 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 6: okay keeping eyes from from his perspective on some stuff 173 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 6: that's going on there. 174 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: So I didn't see it. 175 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 6: So I don't know if he's going to be in 176 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 6: or out this week, so that is still concerning. And 177 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 6: then I would think that that CD is going to 178 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 6: play based on the fact that he was limited I 179 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 6: think last week, and then he was kind of a 180 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 6: late scratch for this game. 181 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 4: Got it? What about let me put you in the spot. 182 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 4: What about young Adam feeling being a healthy scratch? Do 183 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 4: you have any insights on that? 184 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 6: I have no insights on that, and he doesn't reading 185 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 6: the old tea leaves does not look good, you know. 186 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 6: I think that we've all wondered about his inclusion in 187 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 6: this offense and how much run he gets, and then 188 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 6: when he gets in there, it's not been super productive 189 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 6: and it's it is sort of marred with some drops 190 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 6: in there. So he hasn't been the most reliable when 191 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 6: he's been in there either. So it does seem like 192 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 6: everything was trending down, down, down, down, down to where 193 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 6: now he's a healthy scratch in yesterday's game. 194 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: What does that mean our sweep depth to a wide receiver. 195 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 6: I mean, if you hear, if you hear, the thing 196 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 6: is like if you hear, listen to coach O'Connell after 197 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 6: the game. They asked him about it, and he's like, well, 198 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 6: you know, we have some injuries in other spots, we 199 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 6: have to elevate other people. So that just means, you know, 200 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 6: we can only have so many in a nutshell like 201 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 6: and we can only have so many active players for 202 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 6: this game. We've been remarkably healthy at the receiver position. 203 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 6: If so facto, he he now becomes, well, we have 204 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 6: you can dress what forty eight guys? 205 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: Is that right? 206 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, you can dress forty eight guys for game day. 207 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 6: So you're telling me that he's the forty ninth and 208 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 6: fiftieth player on this roster. 209 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: That's not good. It's not good. 210 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 6: I mean, in those situations if your vet, most vets 211 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 6: don't don't handle that very well. 212 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know. 213 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 6: I questioned the longevity of him for the rest of 214 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 6: the season on this team. 215 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, wow. 216 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 4: And do we know anything about THEO Jackson either. No, 217 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 4: That's what I'm going to ask you. Did anybody see 218 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 4: him on the list last week? Was he in on 219 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 4: the injury report? He was not on the injury report. 220 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 5: Now finally there's a question for the cause because Cosby knows. 221 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: All about THEO. 222 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: He does great point. Well, he calls me later today 223 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: I'll ask him. 224 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 7: I don't like how you have a nickname for why 225 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 7: does he call you on Mondays? 226 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: Because it's the only day he has access to the phone. 227 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: You know how jail works. 228 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 7: THEO Jackson was a limited participant all week with a 229 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 7: neck injury. 230 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: Okay, I did not see that. 231 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 4: Thank you, Okay, thank you. 232 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: Well there we go. 233 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 6: So I guess he's dealing with a neck injury. I 234 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 6: must have missed that. I actually I asked around. There's 235 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 6: a couple of people in the over today, like, yeah, 236 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 6: I didn't even know he was injured. 237 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: So Benjamin, let me put you in another corner. I'm 238 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: gonna ask the tough one. 239 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm badger. 240 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 5: May thirtieth of twenty twenty five, Quasi Adopha Mensa signed 241 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 5: a multi year extension with the Minnesota Vikings. Could it 242 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 5: still possibly be one and done with this new extension 243 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 5: and him not surviving this offseason? 244 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 9: Sure? 245 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: Tough question. 246 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: Sure, I don't know why. I don't know why. 247 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 6: Like, look, we see it all the time, and we 248 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 6: see it all the time in sports, like there's there's 249 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 6: dead money on player contracts. There's dead money another you know, 250 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 6: personnel contracts, and you know I don't think that this 251 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 6: ownership is I don't think that they're in a position 252 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 6: where they have to do any anything that they they're 253 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 6: contractually bound and they they're gonna like say like, oh well, 254 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 6: we can't, we can't make changes because of contracts in 255 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 6: the way, Like I they're they're willing to make decisions 256 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 6: and part ways and do things that is they see fits. 257 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 6: So I think everything's on the table at this point 258 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 6: in time, and I I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised 259 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 6: if if there was something done there. 260 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 5: Now, Paul, your hands up, and we were just talking 261 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 5: about Quazy, So I don't think you're going to ask Woodhawks. 262 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 5: So I think this is an actual football follow football 263 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 5: follow Okay, Paul, your hands up. 264 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 7: Just like you said Core about how Broseberg didn't really 265 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 7: stake his claim to be the starting quarterback. What is 266 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 7: Quasy done to stake his claim to pick possibly a 267 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 7: fifth or six overall pick and help this team rebuild. 268 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: But he's not the only one making the pick. 269 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's the GM I know saying. But I 270 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 7: think what my opinion is, I think he's going to 271 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 7: be the scapegoat of all of this. I would agree with. 272 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 7: I think he's going to be the one that's going 273 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 7: to take this. I mean all of those guys that 274 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 7: he signed. And it's not just him, it's a group effort. 275 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 7: I mean Will Fryes was that was his worst game yesterday. 276 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 7: The two defensive tackles, I forgot they were on the team. 277 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 7: It's just the guys that they signed to bolster this team. 278 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 7: And you watched the Chicago Bears, who had the same 279 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 7: offseason plan. They had the same exact issues the Vikings have. 280 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 7: They're the number one seed in football, and they went 281 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 7: the trade route on getting Tuney in the other whoever 282 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 7: else they got as the interior of their offensive line, 283 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 7: same plan. They won a different route. We went this route, 284 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 7: and our route has failed miserably. And it doesn't help 285 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 7: that the quarterbacks are bad. And that's another thing. You 286 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 7: watch this roster and you go, man, those two guys 287 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 7: that we have, I mean they didn't have Wentz, but 288 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 7: like you know, we were gonna ride with McCarthy after 289 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 7: you have the two guys, and then whatever you want 290 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 7: to think of the Rogers rumors and however that whe 291 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 7: whoever said Noover said, yes, they let all that go 292 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 7: by and here we are. We've lost four st right, 293 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 7: and they haven't scored a touchdown in two games. Somebody's 294 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 7: going to take the fall. You don't just it's not 295 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 7: just status quo, right, But you're gonna be a underdog 296 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 7: in every game. 297 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 9: That's what leads you to who cares who's going to 298 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 9: be the quarterback next week? 299 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: It doesn't, It doesn't really matter. 300 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: No losing is you should want to lose. 301 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: I don't. 302 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 9: I don't think they have a choice. No, you know, 303 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 9: it's not one of those where oh you should tank it. 304 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 9: I just don't think you can win. They can't score no, right, 305 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 9: and then they put these quarterbacks, these young quarterbacks, in 306 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 9: such bad positions. Yeah, I mean you hear Koc talk 307 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 9: about explosives. Oh he missed this explosive. He could have 308 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 9: this explosion. Stop with the explosives. 309 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: Put everything in front of them. 310 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 9: Make it easy, Make it easy for these quarterbacks because 311 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 9: they need to have the game slow down. And if 312 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 9: you are just doing these long routes and everybody he 313 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 9: has to wait until someone gets open. 314 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: Now the route's so deep. 315 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 316 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 9: I mean, just to me, it seems like I know 317 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 9: this is your offense, and your offense is fantastic, there 318 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 9: is no question. However, if you have players that can't 319 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 9: pull off what you're trying to do, they just don't 320 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 9: have the ability have to change your game plan. 321 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: You just have to. And they say nobody wants to, 322 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: but you have to. No, I'm not gonna all of 323 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: a sudden go into the box box. 324 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 9: And you know, and the potboy I'm going to hop in. 325 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: No, it's not not a skill set that I have. 326 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: Give you twenty bucks if you do. 327 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 9: No. 328 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: No, I've already called a couple of plays and it 329 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: was horrible. 330 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 6: I think all of these things are completely valid in 331 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 6: their conversations that that probably need to be had on them. 332 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 6: I'm guessing that they're having these conversations even at at TCOPC, 333 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 6: you know, behind closed doors. I mean, it's it's what 334 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 6: you have to do as an organization. Like they get 335 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 6: paid the big bucks, and that doesn't mean that you 336 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 6: just get to take all the accolades when things are good. 337 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 6: You gotta make tough decisions when things are bad. And 338 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 6: that that is the role of everybody over there that's 339 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 6: a high level decision maker, whether you're in personnel, whether 340 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 6: you're in coaching, whatever it is, and so you know, 341 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 6: I think that when you win it just look, I 342 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 6: was on a lot of winning teams. 343 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: I'll go back to that twenty nineteen. 344 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: I know, I know, easy, easy, easy. 345 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: There's a larger point here. 346 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 6: It's a larger point here that we knew that there 347 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 6: were some issues in two thousand and nine with our team. 348 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 6: We did, I mean the way that the organization just 349 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 6: sort of worked internally. But when you win, all that 350 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 6: gets brushed under the rug. Things don't get addressed because 351 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 6: you're winning games. However you're winning, whether it's your your 352 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 6: one Hall of Fame quarterback that you have, whether you 353 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 6: know sometimes it's our defense playing well, whatever it is, 354 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 6: those things mask all of the warts that that are obvious. 355 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 6: But when you lose all of things, all of those 356 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 6: things get magnified and you can't ignore it. So what 357 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 6: are they going to do? That is the question that 358 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 6: we all want to know. We know that there are issues. 359 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 6: We know there are issues with performance across the board. 360 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 6: Is it execution? Is it lack of skill? Is it 361 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 6: lack of talent? If those are the issues that you 362 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 6: see as well and you identify, then yes, something has 363 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 6: to change. Changes have to be made, and they'll probably 364 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 6: you know, obviously not going to make those changes in 365 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 6: the season. But when the season is over, I would 366 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 6: expect hard decisions to be made across this organization. 367 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: More of the power trip morning Shoe after this is 368 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm a Man, Key fun. 369 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: Now is your chance to say thank you in a 370 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: big way with Iheartradios, Think a teacher powered by donors. 371 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 2: Choose nominated outstanding public school teacher who's got above and 372 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: beyond for their students to win five thousand dollars to 373 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 2: stock their classroom with whatever they need. Help us say 374 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: thank you to the educators shaping our future. Nomina your 375 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: favorite teacher now. iHeartRadio dot com slash teachers guaranteed humans too. 376 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: All these teachers are human teachers. I guarantee it. Hello, 377 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: my name is human. 378 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: Oh great, So. 379 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 5: Give me the the teacher that changed your life the most, 380 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 5: specifically senior year when you didn't bring. 381 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: A backpack, mister Goldner. 382 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 5: Is he the one that found you away onto the 383 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 5: football team even though your grades weren't good enough. No, 384 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 5: that was mister Headstrom. He was probably a team effort 385 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 5: to get you on that squad. Oh yeah, a team 386 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 5: effort to get you to quit. 387 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 7: I played two games after that, and so changing my 388 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 7: grade didn't do a lot. 389 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: I didn't do much. 390 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 7: And then when you know, when I get told you're 391 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 7: not any good, most people would go, oh, oh yeah, 392 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 7: proven wrong, You're right. 393 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 5: Harder, some kind of montage video with you lifting logs 394 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 5: in the woods to get stronger, not quit? 395 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: You quit? 396 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: Can we do a quick fan five because we're way 397 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 4: behind us? 398 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: Goodness getting for. 399 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 9: A fan five on the Power Trip presented by All Around. 400 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: Yes. 401 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 7: Your Vikings lost twenty six nothing to the Seahawks. 402 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: They play the Commanders next week. 403 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 7: They lost twenty seven to twenty six to the Broncos 404 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 7: in overtime. Week thirteen ends tonight with the two and 405 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 7: ten Giants battling the ten and two Patriots At seven 406 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 7: point fifteen. The Pats are minus seven. The Gophers kept 407 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 7: the acts by beating Wisconsin seventeen to seven. The Wolves 408 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 7: beat the Spurs one twenty five to one to twelve 409 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 7: for their second consecutive victory over an above five hundred team, 410 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 7: and had thirty two. They battle the Pelicans tomorrow at seven. 411 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 7: The Wild are at the Oilers tomorrow at eight, and 412 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 7: LSU is hiring former Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffen. 413 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 4: I mean that was a very quick fan five a lot. 414 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: I mean that you will yeah wow, like an auctioneer. 415 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 416 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 9: You know. 417 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 6: One thing that I think I have this correctly about 418 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 6: Lane Kiffen that hasn't been talked about much. I guess 419 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 6: part of his deal and this is the confusing part 420 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 6: because I thought the whole NIL thing was sort of 421 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 6: going away with the new revenue share. But I guess 422 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 6: he has worked in the contract at LSU. He gets 423 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 6: twenty five million a year in NIL alone. That that 424 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 6: that gets that's every year, that's every year for his 425 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 6: seven years. 426 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: Every year he gets to dole out. 427 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, he gets replenished every year that he gets to 428 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 6: spend twenty five million to buy players whoa good for him. 429 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 4: Yep wow. 430 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 6: I mean listen, if you can get it, you can 431 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 6: get it. I think if there's a if there's a 432 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 6: giant canary in the coal mine right now, it's that 433 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 6: right there, Like this system is absolutely broken. 434 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: That yeah. 435 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 6: Well, I mean whoever the GM is, I mean, you know, 436 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 6: I don't know if that's an official, but the fact 437 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 6: that that the football department gets twenty five million per 438 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 6: year to sign players. 439 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 5: Ye sauce, Yeah, go ahead, do your best to explain 440 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 5: the metaphor a canary in a coal mine. 441 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 7: I think a canary in a coal mine is if 442 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 7: you see one dead, it's bad. No, Like, isn't that 443 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 7: the thing though? Like they have it down there because 444 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 7: like there's no oxygen. 445 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: Isn't that the bit? 446 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 4: You got that right? 447 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? You got it right, got it? 448 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: You did it. It just sounded funny. It was a 449 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: canary and it's dead, that's bad. Well no, but that 450 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean, especially if you're the canary. You saw one, now, 451 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: you'd go, oh, that bird died. 452 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 7: But if you're in a coal mine and you see 453 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 7: one dead, you're like, we should go back because there's 454 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 7: no oxygen down here. 455 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: It's over any more. Brainbusters. 456 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, what if you saw a canary on the fifth 457 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 5: floor here at iHeart? 458 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: What if you saw a box elder bug. 459 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 4: Like we hired a new salesperson. 460 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: You'd be like, wow, there's a burden here. Must be 461 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: doing a bit. It's a live that's good. 462 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good, thank you, Yeah, I got it. 463 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: That's uh, that's good. Okay, good Vikings news is next time? 464 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: Ask Gary Traffic Center. 465 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 10: Hey, the Fan. That's us and the Vikings. That's a 466 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 10: football team. We're teaming up for toys for tots. Will 467 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 10: be at Shields and eating prayer tomorrow sitting at five thirty. 468 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 10: Will be there till six thirty pm. Yeah, let's see 469 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 10: him man our annual broadcast presented by Unreal. Please bring 470 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 10: a toy and spread some joy. 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Right, like a week 482 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 5: or so ago. JJ McCarthy posted just terrible numbers, right, 483 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 5: it was like a thirty five passer rating or something. 484 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 5: In the world, including me and everybody else, said, can't 485 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 5: get any worse. 486 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: Let's put the kid. 487 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 5: In then the kid posted like a thirty two passer rating, 488 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 5: and then everybody last week, and then everybody last night said, 489 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 5: you know, if you just snapped the ball and spiked 490 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 5: it into the ground, you'd have a better passer rating, 491 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 5: which I guess is mathematic accurate, but lost in the 492 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 5: shuffle there is. 493 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: Shouldn't that mean that we need to. 494 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 5: Figure out a different formula, because if dropping back and 495 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 5: throwing it right into the dirt thirty consecutive times is 496 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 5: a better rating than what Brozemer and McCarthy did, then 497 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 5: the formula is bad because turning over five times, but 498 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 5: that should be a zero. If you go zero for 499 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 5: thirty with zero yards, that should be a zero passer rating. 500 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: I could do that. 501 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 5: I couldn't do what McCarthy or Brozemer did, which is 502 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 5: get some yards. 503 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: It should be a zero. 504 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 6: So you, like Celsius like this whole like water freezing 505 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 6: at thirty two, Like you're like, if that's the bottom, 506 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 6: that should. 507 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: Be Zeroah, sure, I'm with you on that. Well, it's 508 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: it's it's one of those fun stats. 509 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 5: Yes, everybody that's saying you'd have a better rating if 510 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 5: you just throw it into the ground. 511 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: I know that's right, but that means the formula's flawed. 512 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 4: Say that, to be fair, He's the only person I've 513 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: heard say yeah, I stand by it. You do keep 514 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 4: standing by it. 515 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 1: You stand by a lot of things. I do. 516 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 4: Wish you'd stand by the road and. 517 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: People. 518 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, in front of a train, not a moving train. 519 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 5: I doesn't want to get hit by Hawk was in 520 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 5: when he was in a training statue like a picture. 521 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 5: You know, by that train, you're gonna be involved. 522 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: Or stand at the end of the train with Tommy. 523 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 5: Please sing drops Jupiter, God terrible, stop off God, God terrible. 524 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 5: Just a brutal song. 525 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 4: I'm not going to argue about train. 526 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 6: Nails on a chalkboard because so let's go back to 527 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 6: that real quick before we really dive into the Viking stuff. 528 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 6: So if you look at the QBR, the quarterback rating, 529 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 6: so there is it like getting points on a test 530 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 6: for just writing your name because. 531 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: Passer rate in QBR, right, it's a lot of times like. 532 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 5: You are you also get credit for like yards per 533 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 5: attempt and things like that. 534 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: Right, So sometimes I think which one is. 535 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 5: It is a QBR that also factors in like throwaways. 536 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: Or do they both PBR? 537 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 6: No, I don't know if it's just like ESPN's way 538 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 6: of saying, like, well, we have our own metric and 539 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 6: that's what we're going to do. 540 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 5: The thing that ESPN did that was smart when they 541 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 5: came up with the QBR is max it out at 542 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 5: a hundred, right that a perfect score is one hundred 543 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 5: as opposed to one fifty eight point three, which confuses everybody. Yeah, 544 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 5: but I don't understand why either of them would have 545 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 5: a score be better than zero. If you go over 546 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 5: thirty with thirty spikes, well that makes sense. 547 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 6: That's that's that's what I'm saying, Like you're getting credit 548 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 6: as a quarterback just. 549 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 5: For fielding for not turning the ball over, for fielding 550 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 5: the snap right, for. 551 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 4: Not turning the ball over. Yet you're not turning the 552 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: ball over. Yes, that's the big one. 553 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: Which which is man? Was it yesterday? 554 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 3: Maybe it was even so far away? 555 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: Was it? 556 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 5: Maybe it was Greg Olsen even Yeah, I think it 557 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 5: was talking about the Seahawks. 558 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: So the Seahawks don't turn the ball over much. 559 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 5: And it's what we always talk about with like quarterbacks 560 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 5: like Brett Favre, it is okay to have an interception 561 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 5: once in a while. 562 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: That means you're aggressive. 563 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 5: No one's asking for forty touchdowns and zero picks. That's 564 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 5: actually probably not the most efficient football. That means you're 565 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 5: not taking enough chances. 566 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 9: It does depend on how it looks though as well. 567 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 9: I mean he's correct'm probably a contested ball up. That's 568 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 9: one thing, but another when you're just sailing one into 569 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 9: somebody else. 570 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 5: Again, you go back a handful of weeks when when 571 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 5: McCarthy threw the fifty to fifty ball to JJ, and 572 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 5: JJ got his feet tangled up and then the ball 573 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 5: got picked off, and then we all argued about whether 574 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 5: or not they should have thrown it to them because 575 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 5: it was third and fourth, third and one or fourth 576 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 5: and whatever it was. Yeah, but I still will go 577 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 5: back and go, yeah, but there's nothing wrong with once 578 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 5: in a while throwing a fifty to fifty ball to 579 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 5: the best receiver in football. If it gets picked off 580 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 5: once in a while, you have to live with that, 581 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 5: that's fine. Nobody's expecting perfection. We just haven't seen anything 582 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 5: close to adequate essentially this year outside of Carson wentz Andon, 583 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 5: and Carson was never spectacular. He was just very adequate. 584 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 5: It was solid. He wasn't lighting it up. But he 585 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 5: wasn't just completely killing you like these two kids are. 586 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: He was giving us a chance. 587 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 5: He was giving you a chance, and he was hurt right, 588 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 5: and they were asking him to go out there with 589 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 5: like one arm, barely the arm. 590 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: That you can even throw with. 591 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 5: I think you should kick a couple of balls, because 592 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 5: why not anyway, So what do you do with the quarterback? Ben? 593 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 5: Like you said earlier, we may be damned if we do, 594 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 5: damned if we don't. But what do you do if 595 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 5: if McCarthy's healthy, that's the only option. 596 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: That's the only option. 597 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 6: I think that's the the thing is, Like, as much 598 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 6: as I all I wanted from yesterday, just from a 599 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 6: fan standpoint, was create a quarterback controversy, brosmur go out 600 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 6: there and light up the world and you know, show 601 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 6: everybody that you can play quarterback and that the quote 602 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 6: unquote system works. I know that even in that scenario, 603 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 6: you'd still have to start McCarthy because you have to 604 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 6: know what you're going to get out of your first 605 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 6: round investment. I get all that, but it'd be a 606 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 6: lot of fun if we could be having these conversations 607 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 6: about like I don't know, I'm a Broseburg guy. I'm 608 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 6: a McCarthy guy. We gotta get like like that's fun 609 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 6: for everybody. That keeps the rest of the season interesting. 610 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 6: What happened yesterday was well, I guess we go back 611 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 6: to McCarthy and that's that's how we feel. It's you 612 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 6: can't go back out there with bros. Mur I mean, 613 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 6: I mean obviously unless unless McCarthy doesn't pass any sort 614 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 6: of concussion tests, you don't. I don't think you're gonna 615 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 6: go to Warford or Wallford. Like he looks like he's 616 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 6: an eighth grader out there. I mean, he's I don't 617 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 6: even know if he's six foot tall, So. 618 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 7: I'm not like I saw him of the sidelines and 619 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 7: I'm like, not the short king sling correct. 620 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: Let Napoleon throw the football. 621 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 12: Yeah, Napoleon, Napoleon Dynamoe my Danny DeVito chuck. Oh god, 622 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 12: I would watch that for sure, against the commander who cares. 623 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: He can't get any worse. 624 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: I don't need to seem door fun football. 625 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: Oh see there, you guys have so many good ideas. 626 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: This would all be more entertaining than yesterday. It was 627 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: eighty one. So what frank Man, we need a veteran leader. 628 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 4: We need somebody else take experience. 629 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, let it. 630 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 5: Just like we talked about last week that even if 631 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 5: Brozemer didn't work, it was just gonna be exciting to 632 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 5: try something else. Now it backfired big time next week 633 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 5: against the Commanders, the veto runs out of the tunnel, they'd. 634 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: Lose their minds. 635 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: He's dressed up like the penguin. 636 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 5: Right, oswas like the penguin because he was the penguin. 637 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 638 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 5: But the Vikings, well so far McCarthy and Brosemar throw 639 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 5: like they have flipper hands. 640 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: Anyway, why not let the sling it? 641 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, let me ask you, Let me ask you guys this, 642 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 6: what's his face? 643 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: Let me ask you guys this. 644 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 6: Take take away the result of the throw. We know 645 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 6: that we gave the ball away five times yesterday we 646 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 6: had four interceptions like but from but from a breaking 647 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 6: of the hubble, receiving of the ball, progressions through the 648 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 6: passing routes. Was there one or the other that you 649 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 6: guys thought was like more pleasing that seemed like, oh, 650 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 6: this actually looks like high level quarterbacking. 651 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 9: Rosemann got rid of the ball way faster than jj 652 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 9: JJ holds. 653 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 3: Out of the ball. 654 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, way too long. Yeah, JJ hangs on to it. 655 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 7: Wait, there were multiple times when JJ starts, We're like, 656 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 7: just throw the football. 657 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: Right. 658 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 4: If they were both first round picks or both free agents, 659 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 4: and you told me which would I rather see play? 660 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 4: After watching these games, I'd rather see Brosman. But that's 661 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 4: not the point. Yeah, one's a first round draft pick 662 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 4: and one didn't get drafted, right, that's to me, that's 663 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 4: the determining factor if if the concussions not in play. 664 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 6: Now, again, as best as you can, you are correct, 665 00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 6: I think the answer is gonna be the same. But 666 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 6: the as you can, let's just say that Brose Murmer 667 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 6: was from the University of New Hampshire and never went 668 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 6: to University of Minnesota. He probably would feel well, no, 669 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 6: I'm just saying like he's on the team. But but 670 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 6: do you still feel the same way. Yeah, but the 671 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 6: team doesn't think that way. I mean as far as. 672 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 9: Conversation, yes, absolutely, But I mean they're not going to 673 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 9: just go, well he was one. 674 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 6: No, I know that, But like I think, I do 675 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 6: think that there is that that emotional connection to a 676 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 6: lot of the fans. 677 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 4: Must your break, He's very combative. 678 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 3: The spec. 679 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 5: Sassy, where did Vito play college football again. 680 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: I don't mean Tommy Davito. 681 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 4: I think junior High. 682 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 5: I think it's it's sauces take on the McCarthy fastball. 683 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 5: Is what's hard to watch is the brosemurv pass to 684 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 5: Addison that got dropped. I'm like, man, that's a good 685 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 5: looking spiral, nice pace, that's a super catchable ball, and 686 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 5: he dropped it. 687 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, we need more of that. 688 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 5: So like that's the play that like Man brosemur can 689 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 5: it and then it got dropped, and then it felt 690 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 5: like the whole rest of the game he just didn't 691 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 5: have confidence in his wide. 692 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: Receivers and vice versa. 693 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 5: So I would still slightly lean towards Brozemers an easier 694 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 5: watch the rocket ball out of McCarthy gets frustrated. 695 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 4: Can I ask you to answer your own question, Ben, 696 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 4: because you know better than any of us. 697 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 6: I like the athleticism more of McCarthy. I think that 698 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 6: he is more athletic. I think he gives us more 699 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 6: of a chance in a pocket that's collapsing to make 700 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 6: a play. Now does he Is he accurate on the run? 701 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 6: I mean I would actually, I would actually contest the 702 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 6: fact that I think that he's he gives you a 703 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 6: better chance when he's actually outside the pocket out and 704 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 6: he doesn't have to think about planting his feet and 705 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 6: his footwidth and his shoulder the playing of his shoulders 706 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 6: and all this other stuff, like if he's even thinking 707 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 6: about that. 708 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: But everybody else seems to think that he's thinking about that. 709 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 6: So I actually think that even though he can be 710 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 6: an accurate outside the pocket, I think he gives us 711 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 6: a better chance when he's on the run. 712 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: He plays a little bit more backyard football. 713 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 6: It looks a little bit more aesthetically pleasing when he's 714 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 6: outside the pocket and he's making he's trying to make plays. 715 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 6: I mean the touchdown that he had to Hawkinson in 716 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 6: the in the Green Bay game where he gets outside 717 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 6: the pocket and he was no. 718 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: Is it the Lions game. 719 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 6: I think the Lions game where he gets outside the 720 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 6: pocket and throws a dart, you know, hits him right 721 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 6: between the numbers, Like that, to me is better. I 722 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 6: liked Brozmer the way that he processed better. I like 723 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 6: his progressions were snappier, and you heard it from Koc 724 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 6: that it was almost too snappy, like he was actually 725 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 6: going past guys that were open where I think McCarthy 726 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 6: is slow to read some of that stuff. The one 727 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 6: stat that I thought was really interesting, again going back 728 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 6: to all the PFF hunters out there that only have 729 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 6: football takes based on statistics, is that going into the 730 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 6: Packers game, they said, again using analytics to support this point, 731 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 6: that McCarthy had the fifth highest average time to throw 732 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 6: in the pocket. So if you want to talk about 733 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 6: offensive line not playing well and not give him a 734 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 6: chance going into that game and the games that he played, 735 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 6: he actually had lots of time to throw the football 736 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 6: and that's the results we got. So if we have 737 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 6: a healthy offensive line, and you know, Brozemer gets like 738 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 6: a lot more reps and he gets a lot more 739 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 6: comfortable with that same offensive line that McCarthy's had, I 740 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 6: think that there might be a higher level of quarterbacking 741 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 6: going on. But as far as athleticism and arm strength, 742 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 6: then I'd have. 743 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: To go with McCarthy. 744 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 5: Now, I know you asked in terms of hypothetically, right, 745 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 5: because McCarthy was a first round pick that we technically 746 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 5: traded up for and Max Brosmer is undrafted, right, But 747 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 5: not to keep using the tree lance proc party thing, 748 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 5: because I think it's the most recent and best example. 749 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 5: I think it's exactly what everybody was kind of experiencing 750 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 5: this week. Is McCarthy's a first round pick, Brosmer's undrafted. 751 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 5: This is the closest thing we've seen in a while. 752 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 5: Once the roster is set, you would hope, and I 753 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 5: think most teams try everything they can. They try to 754 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 5: forget where they were drafted and just say, well, who's better? Correct, 755 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 5: because again, according to the Niners, Lore Lance was there 756 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 5: a year, Rock Perdy gets there, and Shanahan knew in 757 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 5: training camp. 758 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: That Perdy was better. 759 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 5: So you have to as quickly as you possibly can 760 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 5: as a head coach, as a GM, as an organization, 761 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 5: go all right, I know so and so is the 762 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 5: guy that we invested a whole bunch of picks in, 763 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 5: we invested time in. 764 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: This is our future. But we already know he doesn't 765 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: have it. 766 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 5: I'm not saying they already are saying McCarthy doesn't have it, 767 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 5: and I'm not saying they think Brozmer's the guy, but 768 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 5: they have to forget immediately where those two were drafted 769 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 5: or not drafted, and just say who's better. If they 770 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 5: think it's McCarthy and I think they probably still think 771 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 5: it is. Then they have to go back to him 772 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 5: as quickly as possible. But you got to forget where 773 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 5: they were picked, right, it doesn't matter anymore? 774 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 6: No, No, I think you're right. It does not matter. 775 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 6: It should not matter anymore. I mean, well, I mean 776 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 6: it it does for this season. It matters where they're 777 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 6: drafted for the rest of this season, yes, for sure. 778 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 6: Going to the next offseason, then all of that's off 779 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 6: the table and you just you you have to evaluate 780 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 6: whoever they bring in. It does not matter. It has 781 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 6: to be a true, true competition because you know, when 782 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 6: he got injured his rookie year, a lot of people 783 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 6: are saying that it was neck and neck and he 784 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 6: was actually leading by a nose against Darnold in this 785 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 6: supposed competition through the offseason through training camp. If that's 786 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 6: what it takes to get the best out of him, 787 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 6: is to constantly press him with competition, then we have 788 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 6: to bring in competition for the betterment of the team 789 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 6: and the betterment of himself. 790 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 5: Do you think mac Jones would come here in a 791 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 5: Daniel Jones situation because Jones went to Indianapolis expecting to compete. 792 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 5: It ans Richardson for the job and he won it. 793 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 5: You think mac Jones would come here if they said, 794 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 5: look at you and McCarthy and it's a it's a 795 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 5: coin flip, like, if you're gonna do it, you're gonna 796 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 5: have to beat him out. 797 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: Probably not. 798 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 6: I'm gonna guess that his agent's gonna say, I advise 799 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 6: you to go to a team though you're you're basically 800 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,479 Speaker 6: you're gonna starter and you're gonna get starting money. 801 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 3: He's a positives he needs you. 802 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 7: Got a trade for him, though he would he's he's 803 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 7: got one year left on his contract. You could trade 804 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 7: for mac Jones quick. 805 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean. 806 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 3: In this game, Dallas Turner, what a game that guy had. 807 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 9: He's leading sack tied right, Yeah, he's got four in 808 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 9: the last three games. And maybe the funniest thing I've 809 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 9: ever seen when they thought that they the Seahawks were 810 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 9: going to do the tush push and L d R 811 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 9: lays down on the ground and then they shifted out 812 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 9: of it. 813 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 3: His realization like, well they're not doing that, Okay, I 814 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 3: gotta get back up. Give him a lot. I was 815 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 3: cracking up when I saw that. Positive stuff. Guys, Yeah, 816 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 3: thank you. 817 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: How the positivity is thank you, thank you. 818 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 4: I want to play that Jalen Naylor interview that you 819 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 4: did in the locker room and ask you about what 820 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 4: he said about the cadence situation when we come back. 821 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, sounds good. 822 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 5: All right, More with ben leeber More Vikings discussion after 823 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 5: this muss is here. 824 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: This is the Power Tim Morning Show.