Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome.
Speaker 2: It's kind of surreal a little bit right now you're
Speaker 2: listening to let's Garden with Scott Berline. We can't garden,
Speaker 2: it's storming, there's smoke, but you can sure listen to
Speaker 2: us talk about gardening if you care to us, being
Speaker 2: me and Mark Wessell, my good friend across.
Speaker 3: From me here at the Studio's morning, Mark, good morning.
Speaker 2: You're chief horticulturist with Gardens Alive, correct, which is the
Speaker 2: parent company? I think I got them all spring Hill Nurseries, Brecks, Gurnees,
Speaker 2: Cavan Borgendane, Gardener's Supply, and then also Icley, which is
Speaker 2: more or less a wholesale specimen plant nursery on the.
Speaker 3: West and most of them good enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hit the major ones anyway, somebody's going to take
Speaker 2: offense at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not an offense. Yeah. Whatever. Can only know
Speaker 1: and remember so much.
Speaker 3: That's right. It's it's hard. I've spent my whole career
Speaker 3: there explaining who we are.
Speaker 2: A get difficult for me. Yeah, but it's a great company.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, Yeah, yep, good company, good good products.
Speaker 3: Good Uh you know, Scott uh So we acquired Gardener Supply,
Speaker 3: which is gardening accessories and tools and all this. So
Speaker 3: a lot of their material came into our warehouse, you know,
Speaker 3: just for photography purposes. And there's some fine things I
Speaker 3: just love to borrow, you know.
Speaker 1: Really, they don't give them to you.
Speaker 3: No, no, they don't give them too wow.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some cool stuff. But you do really well
Speaker 3: in my garden.
Speaker 2: If it were up to me, Mark, I make sure
Speaker 2: you get a few things. Yeah, you keep you happy.
Speaker 2: I think that's hard. I think you're a little cranky
Speaker 2: this morning.
Speaker 3: Mark, Well, I didn't even go to bed last night.
Speaker 2: You traveled three days Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Correct got in
Speaker 2: and then went dancing last.
Speaker 3: Night, dancing in the morning down here in Mount Lookout
Speaker 3: looking and it was every turn there was a tree
Speaker 3: across the road or flooded. It took a little longer
Speaker 3: than normal to get to from a deer to Mount Lookout.
Speaker 2: Parts of Cincinnati got slammed last night, five inches of
Speaker 2: rain in like an hour, hour and a half or something.
Speaker 2: In certain parts it was really isolated. It was like
Speaker 2: here they got five inches of rain, You got an
Speaker 2: inch and a half. No, no, no, that was oh early.
Speaker 3: That was early. And we I haven't even you know,
Speaker 3: measured it. Yeah, because it looks like it's going to
Speaker 3: before you.
Speaker 2: Got maybe four Yeah, I got a half inch and
Speaker 2: I'm what three miles the way the crow.
Speaker 3: Flnes the way the crow f wash.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, it was amazing. Cars were floating. News
Speaker 2: people were out, fire trucks back and forth.
Speaker 1: Every year.
Speaker 3: Yah, yes, summer, you know, these localized storms. But this
Speaker 3: year it's just, you know, at a different level.
Speaker 2: It really has been a weird year. And we must
Speaker 2: be way above on average rainfall some people. Yeah, which
Speaker 2: is scary because we always finished level. We always finished
Speaker 2: right at average, and that probably means we're in for
Speaker 2: like a wicked drought.
Speaker 1: Here before too long.
Speaker 3: I don't say that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping if I say it, it won't happen.
Speaker 3: It is funny how things equal out. It's temperature and rainfall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just, uh, you know, the oscillations seem more
Speaker 2: extreme anymore than the than they used to be. I
Speaker 2: looked into the Canadian wildfires. We're on the edge of
Speaker 2: the smoke, whereas you know, Detroit, Minneapolis, Toronto, the East
Speaker 2: coast getting a lot more of it. So I looked
Speaker 2: into it. They say there's about eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: eight fires. It seems like a pretty precise number to
Speaker 2: just pull out of the air and then say about
Speaker 2: But anyway, about eight hundred and eighty eight fires nearly
Speaker 2: all started by lightning aggravated by heat and dry conditions,
Speaker 2: and a lot of them are very remote where they
Speaker 2: really cannot fight them, you know. So it's gonna depend
Speaker 2: on rain getting there to put these out.
Speaker 1: And a lot of them are in peat. I didn't
Speaker 1: know this.
Speaker 2: In the peat soil they have where they burn low
Speaker 2: and slow and nobody even knows they're there until they
Speaker 2: reach a point where they ignite.
Speaker 3: Boy, that's probably hard to put out a peat fire.
Speaker 2: I would think, so. I mean, you got to know it,
Speaker 2: you got to know it's there. Yeah, and then it's
Speaker 2: underground and it's moving like in veins, and yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's even a possibility.
Speaker 3: That fire in like the province of Quebec a few
Speaker 3: years ago, they just had to let it burn. And yeah,
Speaker 3: it was so remote, like.
Speaker 2: That coal mine fire in Pennsylvania that's been going on
Speaker 2: for thirty years, you know, and with no end in
Speaker 2: sight there, you know. Yeah, you didn't know about that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it was an old coalm I know, finished when
Speaker 2: I think, and I forget how it got started. But
Speaker 2: it's just burning under this town, and the town's basically
Speaker 2: a ghost town now, not entirely, but it just you know,
Speaker 2: smoke is coming out of various parts of the ground
Speaker 2: and it just keeps moving through all these old veins,
Speaker 2: and there's really nothing that can do about it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, the source of oxygen is from too many
Speaker 2: places to.
Speaker 1: Shut it off.
Speaker 2: But we've got I think, a very good show today.
Speaker 2: We have David Hoffman coming later on, who is inherited
Speaker 2: the the godfather role of Hoffman Nurseries used to be
Speaker 2: run by his dad, John, who is retired. John is
Speaker 2: a good Both John and David are great friends of ours.
Speaker 2: And they are Oh, they have to be the largest
Speaker 2: supplier of a wholesale plug supplier of grasses in the
Speaker 2: United States.
Speaker 3: Well if they're close, and they're probably the best known.
Speaker 2: Yeah, best known. They both get out everywhere. They're so
Speaker 2: generous within the industry and their knowledge. They're always trying
Speaker 2: new plants and they've pretty much are instrumental in getting
Speaker 2: more sedges into the market, which is really.
Speaker 1: A big deal.
Speaker 2: Maybe not to you know, typical gardeners, but certainly into
Speaker 2: you know the bigger, campusy new naturalism kind of gardeners.
Speaker 3: You know, sedges, that's I like sedges. But for some
Speaker 3: of the just average gardener, Yeah, it's just a green,
Speaker 3: grassy looking thing.
Speaker 2: Not all of them, not all of them. So there's
Speaker 2: a handful that are really showy. One of them we
Speaker 2: will all right, at least one of them, at least
Speaker 2: one of them from good you know, from me. Oh,
Speaker 2: that's right, I have it on my list, and I
Speaker 2: shared my list with you this time.
Speaker 1: That might not have been a great.
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Speaker 2: three eighty two fifty five, especially starting around seven o'clock.
Speaker 2: Were very happy to take your calls. Yeah, calls, calls. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we can answer your question.
Speaker 3: No, make me last time, and I guess that's what
Speaker 3: it's going to take.
Speaker 1: Your complaints We will manage somehow.
Speaker 3: Call in and see what kind of hacks we really are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Mark We're gonna go ahead and take our
Speaker 2: first break. When we come back, we will dive into
Speaker 2: the National Days of Why because they have sixteen herbs
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Speaker 3: I love herbs.
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Speaker 2: I'm listening. I'm listening. You're listening to Let's Garden with
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Speaker 2: All the past shows, twenty of them now are available
Speaker 2: at Let's Garden Scott Berline at your favorite source of podcasts.
Speaker 2: So time now mark for our national days of Why.
Speaker 3: Do we do this? Favorite section?
Speaker 1: Yeah too, Why do we do this?
Speaker 2: Because sixteen herbs and spices I mentioned before, but also
Speaker 2: ten essential vitamins and minerals. So this is healthy, it's
Speaker 2: good for you. Huh yeah, what it doesn't make any sense? Okay,
Speaker 2: try not to think that we're going to talk about Earth.
Speaker 2: Don't think about it too much. Nah, maybe sometime, but
Speaker 2: not today, well maybe today, I don't know, but anyway.
Speaker 2: A national month of July fragile X Syndrome Awareness Month,
Speaker 2: Disability Pride Month, Independent Retailer Month, Get to your independent
Speaker 2: retail garden center and spend money, buy cool plants. We'll
Speaker 2: talk about cool plants soon. Cell Phone courtesy month, contract
Speaker 2: sewing month, Hemp month, the plant for every occasion, rope
Speaker 2: fabric cures, everything is that where they get CBD from
Speaker 2: from hemp?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, here's every everything. Anti Boredom month, Coolinary Arts month.
Speaker 2: You like coolinary arts, you're good at that stuff. And
Speaker 2: then it's picnic Month. I know what you're thinking. I
Speaker 2: forgot how to do a picnic, haven't done it in
Speaker 2: so long?
Speaker 1: What do I do?
Speaker 2: They made it easy for you, so all these other
Speaker 2: national days just lay it out on a on a
Speaker 2: on a plate.
Speaker 3: So to speak.
Speaker 2: Grilling month, hot dog month, Baked beans month, horse radish month,
Speaker 2: blueberry month, peach month, National ice cream month. The week
Speaker 2: this week is National zoo Keeper's Week. So that's near
Speaker 2: and dear to my heart. I know and love a
Speaker 2: lot of this. It's your holiday. Yeah yeah, I kind
Speaker 2: of technically am I was one uh at since at
Speaker 2: Potanical Garden End zoo it was was you were well,
Speaker 2: that was like when you first hire on, that's your
Speaker 2: you're zoo keeper, even if you're in horticulture.
Speaker 3: I thought maybe they fired you.
Speaker 2: Now now they chased me away from the monkeys or whatever. So,
Speaker 2: you know, this week doesn't come with a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff that I can work with. It seems like when
Speaker 2: people are saying get all excited about making a national
Speaker 2: day of you know, I say, hey, let's make a
Speaker 2: national day for butter or whatever it might be. They
Speaker 2: all want to, like aim at the beginning, they're like,
Speaker 2: let's do it January first.
Speaker 1: You know, It's like, no, it's too soon.
Speaker 2: Let's make it January tenth or you know, Mark Archer
Speaker 2: at the latest.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So it kind of thins out here in July. But
Speaker 2: there are a few None of them are really fun,
Speaker 2: or a few of them might be. But there's Sour
Speaker 2: Candy Day this is today, Sour Candy Day and Caviar Day.
Speaker 1: So we're the.
Speaker 2: Two extreme and the spectrum of the food spectrum there.
Speaker 2: I don't care for either one all that much. Tropical
Speaker 2: Fruit Day though, I do like that, yep. And for
Speaker 2: Southern listeners, you can even grow some of those things.
Speaker 2: That's kind of fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if you live in South Florida. You can
Speaker 3: grow lots of tropical fruits.
Speaker 1: And enjoy them. Yep.
Speaker 2: It is also toss away that could have and should
Speaker 2: have day. So you know I'm tossing away that couldn't
Speaker 2: have and should have is probably going to become a
Speaker 2: could have should have.
Speaker 3: For Yeah, that's I embrace could have should have? Makes
Speaker 3: me who I am?
Speaker 2: How are you going to improve if you don't aren't
Speaker 2: full of good haves and should have?
Speaker 1: Woody Wagon Day, so get I.
Speaker 3: Don't know what that is actually like a call a
Speaker 3: stoga wagon.
Speaker 1: I doubt it, but who knows. I didn't look it up.
Speaker 1: I should have.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, Sunday, July nineteenth, ice Cream Day, Play Day. Sorry
Speaker 2: too busy, I've got a card and no time to play.
Speaker 1: Dacre Day. I like.
Speaker 2: Words with Friends Day. Now, this is a day for
Speaker 2: friendly competition and small wordplay.
Speaker 1: Mark. I think we should try this after the show.
Speaker 3: I think we do enough here.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think we should try it here. We
Speaker 1: might get hurt.
Speaker 2: Monday, July twentieth, Moonday, Come memories the day man first
Speaker 2: walked into Moon in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what up? How'd they do that?
Speaker 2: I don't know. They're still trying. They're having a hard
Speaker 2: time figuring it out now, even though we did it.
Speaker 2: Get out of the doghouse day, Why I'll just wind
Speaker 2: up right back in Pennsylvania Day. I like Pennsylvania. You
Speaker 2: like pen It's just too damn long. It's very long, long,
Speaker 2: long state to drive through. Lollipop Day, Fortune Cookie Day.
Speaker 2: I don't even read them anymore. They're just depressing.
Speaker 3: No, they the quality of the fortunes have. It's like
Speaker 3: this factory produced.
Speaker 1: It's a fortune. It's AI. You know, I think they're just.
Speaker 3: Well, even before AI, something happen.
Speaker 1: Right, You're right, they just got lazy, took us for granted, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: July twenty first, Tuesday, Junk Food Day. Something I can
Speaker 2: get behind and something they good in my behind? Be
Speaker 2: someone day. Take seconds to make a difference in a
Speaker 2: child's life, or really anyone's life. Why just kids? Too
Speaker 2: many things just get wasted on kids. Seriously, if you
Speaker 2: can make a difference in a kid's life, do it exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't take that much most of the time. Wednesday,
Speaker 2: July twenty second Mango Day, and then fragile X Awareness Day,
Speaker 2: So both the month and then the day on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: and then and then Panucci.
Speaker 3: Fudge Day, Panucci fudge.
Speaker 2: Creamy candy with an Italian name. I think it might
Speaker 2: be French, but they say Italian maple flavor. The oldest
Speaker 2: fudge ever created, brown sugar, butter, vanilla, milk, and sometimes nuts.
Speaker 1: Sounds good. Yeah, fudge and it's also Hammock Day.
Speaker 2: So Sarah Geigerbiam if you're out there, get in that
Speaker 2: hammock years Yep. Thursday, July twenty third. Oh, this is
Speaker 2: a good one. Gorgeous Grandma Day. I'm like, that's nice,
Speaker 2: but what about the just the grandma's with nice personalities?
Speaker 3: Gorgeous, gorgeous. We're all gorgeous and beautiful in some fashion,
Speaker 3: not everybody's. There's even a nugget in the even.
Speaker 1: The worst of the worst.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're an optimist, very very positive guy.
Speaker 3: After I get over the should haves and would have
Speaker 3: if I only had, I am an optimist.
Speaker 1: Vanilla ice cream Day, I'm like, Okay, Vanilla's great.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 2: Vanilla's is better, but man, I like flavors, you know,
Speaker 2: top it with some sprinkles.
Speaker 3: Oh, you know, speaking of ice cream and mangoes.
Speaker 1: Mango ice cream is good.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go get my free Sunday at Graters.
Speaker 1: Because it's their birthday. Yes, happy birthday to you.
Speaker 3: Oh well, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's just gonna tell people that not in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: Greaters is like the best ice cream place in the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And uh and also back to mango. Sometimes the
Speaker 3: the South Florida mango crop ripens around my birthday and
Speaker 3: for a birthday present to myself sometimes I get a
Speaker 3: single layer case shipped in from down there. Fresh mangoes
Speaker 3: are so del.
Speaker 2: You're so good to yourself, I am. Yeah, you deserve it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: even though yeah, yeah, National Refreshment Day. This day toasts
Speaker 2: those moments of ice cold refreshment, especially a nice cold
Speaker 2: beer which sounds nice like maybe during the World Cup
Speaker 2: game today for third place today, well that's the third
Speaker 2: place game.
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't even know they played, Yeah they do.
Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 2: And then tomorrow, of course is the the final, which
Speaker 2: uh they might be playing it in you know, campfire smoke.
Speaker 2: That might be interesting. It's also Lemon Day. Finally, wrap
Speaker 2: it up, Friday, Tequila Day, Cousins Day. I've got great cousins.
Speaker 1: You got good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's Amelia Earhart Day. And then drive through day.
Speaker 2: So Tuesday was junk food Day and now drive through Day.
Speaker 2: It's too easy to get oversized or upsized in this country.
Speaker 1: And then last, but not least, Thermal Engineer's Day.
Speaker 2: And I'm glad they get a day because otherwise I
Speaker 2: wouldn't ever think of thermal engineers.
Speaker 1: But they're out there doing their things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't never get enough credit, and it.
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Speaker 1: And welcome back. Good to have you here.
Speaker 2: I'm here with Mark Wessel, chief Ford culturist at Gardens Alive.
Speaker 2: All those catalog companies Rex spring Hill help me out,
Speaker 2: Gurney's Gardener's Supply, and CA van Borgendy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So those are all the catalog companies that are under
Speaker 2: the umbrella of Gardens Alive.
Speaker 1: What we got here.
Speaker 2: I wanted to mention that I am trying to get
Speaker 2: a Facebook page up for this for the show, which
Speaker 2: will feature the lists and links and pictures of plants.
Speaker 2: We talked about things like that I'll get I try
Speaker 2: to get that stuff up either right after or right
Speaker 2: before the show, and maybe, if I'm ambitious, go back
Speaker 2: and kind of fill in things from previous shows, which
Speaker 2: would be nice to do. Also, I'm thinking on like
Speaker 2: fun stuff like photo contests and ways people can interact.
Speaker 3: With the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little interaction, little interact.
Speaker 3: They won't call in, maybe they can, and we.
Speaker 1: Do want you to call in. Eight hundred eighty.
Speaker 3: Two three eighty two fifty. Laying on the guilt trip
Speaker 3: too much might being hard.
Speaker 2: I don't think you can lay the guilt trip on
Speaker 2: too much at all. That's something that works a lot
Speaker 2: of the time. So uh, hey, let's jump into our
Speaker 2: favorite plants right now. And uh I'm gonna let you
Speaker 2: start off, because you what you just told me during
Speaker 2: the break is very intriguing that all of your plants
Speaker 2: are controversial.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well most all them. Yes. So they're all from
Speaker 3: my drive to South Carolina from Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: So on Wednesday, you went to We're in South Carolina, Clemson.
Speaker 3: That's the city and the universe, oh both.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, and then and then you you you went
Speaker 2: there to see things on Thursday and then you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well Wednesday I had other appointments in the area
Speaker 3: getting some of the farms. The commercial growers that are
Speaker 3: growing are seedless muscadines. Ok.
Speaker 2: And you also saw a peach breeder, which we'll talk about.
Speaker 3: H So, Okay, I was in the car looking a
Speaker 3: long time looking at plants. Yeah, it gets tiring, but
Speaker 3: I'm just going to start with a big one. Oh Kudzooh.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know the vine that ate the South brought over
Speaker 3: with good intentions with the first cattle, right, soil erosion. Okay,
Speaker 3: it does you know they do feed cattle, you know.
Speaker 3: So it was brought over in the mid to late
Speaker 3: eighteen hundreds more as an ornamental and.
Speaker 1: That early yeah. Ok.
Speaker 3: And then the soil conservation people said, hey, district said
Speaker 3: in the and during the dustol area started really promoting
Speaker 3: it as a way to save your soil and stop erosion.
Speaker 1: And which it does well, I imagine.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the rest is history is most people have if
Speaker 3: they've traveled south, have seen how it just blankets literately.
Speaker 1: Orange, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And it's mostly of disturbed areas. It's not like really
Speaker 3: invading the Yeah, but it's very visible from the roads
Speaker 3: and the way it covers structures is just it's just
Speaker 3: amazing how much that darn thing grows. I mean, there
Speaker 3: are some redeeming values. I mean, it does produce a
Speaker 3: fair amount of biomass. It's not as much as it
Speaker 3: looks like if it.
Speaker 1: Is really and it's because it looks like a ton
Speaker 1: and I've been.
Speaker 3: Reading a lot about it and then and it's very
Speaker 3: complex and I'm having a hard time understanding if you things.
Speaker 3: So that's why I'm not even.
Speaker 2: There are a handful of populations here, and so it's
Speaker 2: that way. I was hardened to talk to the green
Speaker 2: space coordinator in Anderson Township where I live, and there's
Speaker 2: a few patches. There's like four populations and they're working,
Speaker 2: actually it was eight, and they're working to get all
Speaker 2: of them removed.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. It were kind of at the northern edge
Speaker 3: of its general range. There are a few pockets north
Speaker 3: in the country, but basically it just comes.
Speaker 1: Up southern Kentucky's where I start to see that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it just comes over across the Ohio River Indo, Ohio, Okay.
Speaker 3: So it's most common in the Ohio River counties and
Speaker 3: in New Richmond, where I grew up. There were two patches.
Speaker 3: One was on Little Indian it's still. And then on
Speaker 3: Pond Run Road, so it's it's around yeah. And then
Speaker 3: I was riding around in this golf cart on this
Speaker 3: hilly farm. You know, I felt my life was in
Speaker 3: danger with that.
Speaker 2: I've seen videos people get killed on those cities, yea, yeah.
Speaker 3: And this guy was eighty five and he told me
Speaker 3: he flipped his tractor thirteen times. Now how he's alive away.
Speaker 3: So anyway, this little insect lands on me, a little
Speaker 3: brown thing, and several of them over this time, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, what is this? You know, I'm into bugs.
Speaker 3: And it's the common name they call it is the
Speaker 3: cud zoo bug. Really, yes, And it's a little a
Speaker 3: cud zoo stink bug. And sure enough, it's this real
Speaker 3: little thing about the third the size of a normal
Speaker 3: stink bug. And I am like, well, I can't smell much. Well,
Speaker 3: it smells just like a stink.
Speaker 1: Bug, like sour apples, if that's what you call that.
Speaker 3: I know, I don't know. So anyway, this thing, you think, oh,
Speaker 3: did we introduce this to h You know, it just
Speaker 3: hitched a ride rather recently, real kind of a new phenomena,
Speaker 3: and it attacks members of the bean family so soy
Speaker 3: beans are susceptible to it. But there, okay, there were
Speaker 3: a lot of these little things flying around because kutsu.
Speaker 1: If I remember, it is a lake guome right.
Speaker 3: It's a like yum. It gets these clusters of big
Speaker 3: pea like flowers like kind of like kind of like wisteria,
Speaker 3: but it has this super sweet smell. It's not blooming yet.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, the fragrances like it's like.
Speaker 3: A candy kind of.
Speaker 2: But it is alarming when you're driving through the South
Speaker 2: that you'll you know, come around a bend or something
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden there's a wall of
Speaker 2: katsu for a mile or sometimes it seems like, and
Speaker 2: it's all up in the trees and you're looking at
Speaker 2: it and you're like, oh, and I know it's a
Speaker 2: it's a problem. I don't know if it's a total
Speaker 2: ecological disaster, and I don't think so. No, it's because
Speaker 2: it doesn't get deep into the woods. It's in these
Speaker 2: disturbed areas, but still it's like just another And the
Speaker 2: thing that bothers me about it is because it's been
Speaker 2: known to have been an invasive plant for a very
Speaker 2: long time, and yet eight people or a few at
Speaker 2: least in my township. Thought, Oh, it's attractive enough to
Speaker 2: plant it in their yard or wherever. And now it's
Speaker 2: you know, spreading around so people don't play around with
Speaker 2: invasive plants.
Speaker 1: Not good.
Speaker 3: Oh we got to play with them and then find
Speaker 3: out if they're invasive.
Speaker 1: Smart mark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm we're in the heat dome. I'm going to
Speaker 2: come in and just say once again, shade trees are
Speaker 2: my favorite plants right now, big ones, anything that provides
Speaker 2: a lot of shade, maples, oaks, Linden's, elms, z cova.
Speaker 2: What am I missing? Hookeries. Get those big trees out there,
Speaker 2: diversity them. Don't all buy red maples. Yeah, okay, well
Speaker 2: that's all right, that's all right. Gotta put you on
Speaker 2: the spot. I'm just gonna mention Esculus part of a
Speaker 2: floor a variety Satna. I didn't know it was a
Speaker 2: sub variety the cult of our rogers because it's blooming now.
Speaker 2: It's later than the regular bottlebrush bluck guys, and it's
Speaker 2: just fabulous. It's a big suckering plant, great for screening,
Speaker 2: deir resistance, sunshade, moist dry.
Speaker 3: Amazing plan.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing place.
Speaker 3: It was one of my plants of the week. They're
Speaker 3: just the regular species. Okay, about a month, but ago
Speaker 3: it was blooming.
Speaker 1: When those were blooming, and.
Speaker 3: Rogers, that's a very long panicle.
Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah, really big and very fuzzy, and the
Speaker 2: polleningter is absolutely loving.
Speaker 1: What's your next one?
Speaker 2: And I'm looking for something real controversial, real controversial.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, the empress tree polonia. Yeah yeah, yeah, see,
Speaker 3: I mean you see it around here once in a while,
Speaker 3: but uh, you travel south, it's crazy. It's all over.
Speaker 3: And when you take forty from Knoxville to Ashville and
Speaker 3: you're in the mountains, it's all over those rotten.
Speaker 2: And you can see it when it's a bloom so easily,
Speaker 2: well even not because the leaves are so big.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and it blooms before the leaves come out,
Speaker 3: and it's very spring and then it has these clusters
Speaker 3: of seed, spiky seed pods that hang down. Now, what
Speaker 3: I used to do with it when I was into
Speaker 3: state gardening. I would grow it in a garden as
Speaker 3: a tropical and you would copass it. You would cut
Speaker 3: it down every year, and that thing would grow like
Speaker 3: twelve feet this messive leaves a year and those juvenile
Speaker 3: leaves are like five times as big as the normal leaves.
Speaker 3: They're just giant. It's really cool that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even there, you're kind of playing with the fire
Speaker 2: a little bit because you noted copposs it every year.
Speaker 2: But you know, if you move on and somebody leaves it,
Speaker 2: then it could grow into a tree and start producing
Speaker 2: seed and sweating.
Speaker 3: And I'm playing with fire just talking about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah you are, You're gonna get calls and heat mail.
Speaker 3: But at the IPM conference in Germany there IPM is
Speaker 3: it's this big horticulture trade show in Germany. There was
Speaker 3: a company that sells different varieties of it for forest products.
Speaker 3: It makes this really durable.
Speaker 2: Would I first learned about it? I read this article
Speaker 2: in Newsweek or something it was a long time ago,
Speaker 2: about how it was actually becoming endangered in Japan because
Speaker 2: they make like boxes for brides out of the wood.
Speaker 2: It's purple, it's it has street it's beautiful wood. And
Speaker 2: then you know, they started describing the tree like tropical,
Speaker 2: look beautiful purple flowers. I'm like, oh, I want me
Speaker 2: one of those, you know, and and then you know,
Speaker 2: you you you well, then you find out it's it's
Speaker 2: an invasive problem. And secondly it's it despite on paper
Speaker 2: looking like a beautiful tree, it's not a pretty tree
Speaker 2: in real life. It's usually scraggly and half damaged, and.
Speaker 3: It just never drops those big old leaves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a problem.
Speaker 2: I stopped at some nash Or State park at Tennessee
Speaker 2: around Jackson, Tennessee, and.
Speaker 1: It was riddled with them. I mean, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they were everywhere.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to jump in and say a couple
Speaker 2: real quick. Lanira reticulate a Kinsley's ghost just a great
Speaker 2: a native honeysuckle. Yeah, I think the common name is
Speaker 2: just reticulate honeysuckle, So you might as well learn a
Speaker 2: lot of this.
Speaker 3: Or it's a native selection.
Speaker 2: It's a native selection with blue foliage. It's porfolio, so
Speaker 2: the stems go through the foliage. It looks a lot
Speaker 2: like a eucalyptus does. Throw it by itself. It's sort
Speaker 2: of a shrubby thing, but if it has something to
Speaker 2: climb up to, it'll climb well.
Speaker 1: Up into a tree. So it's kind of a neat
Speaker 1: one cool plant. I love it.
Speaker 2: And then garden flocks flocks piniculata it's hitting its stride
Speaker 2: and it is so beautiful. I've got many I started
Speaker 2: out with just a handful of mildew resistant varieties, and
Speaker 2: I think they're all gone.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: The seedlings are, you know, seeds around a little bit.
Speaker 2: So I've got a bunch of seedlings of various colors
Speaker 2: all over the garden now, and they're all good. They
Speaker 2: all have of the fragrance, different colors.
Speaker 3: Uh and uh.
Speaker 2: I don't see mildew, which is really nice because that's
Speaker 2: supposedly a bad problem with other older writings.
Speaker 3: Maybe eventually it'll get them.
Speaker 1: What's your next one?
Speaker 3: My next one, I'm going with a native Devil's walking,
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, which you know who knows what I mean?
Speaker 3: This is a semi obscure plant. We once again we're
Speaker 3: on the northern part of its range. You can see
Speaker 3: it in when you travel like to Adams in Sciota County,
Speaker 3: and it gets these it's a suckering shrub. I guess
Speaker 3: you'd call it. It doesn't. I don't even know that
Speaker 3: it branches. It's just steady stock and it has these
Speaker 3: really large compound leaves, so it's more like a leaf
Speaker 3: like maybe a Kentucky coffee tree.
Speaker 1: Let's just say that doubly pinate.
Speaker 3: Pinnately compound leaf. So it has all these leaflets kind
Speaker 3: of foliage, and then right now they're starting to bloom.
Speaker 3: It's this big panicle like the size of a basketball
Speaker 3: of these tiny white flowers, and bees and flies just
Speaker 3: like anything in the Aurelia family just flock to it.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I want this somewhere nearby, but you
Speaker 3: have to be very careful because this does spread by
Speaker 3: suckers and it has oh yeah, the double parts thorns
Speaker 3: at the least on the stem. And it's just I
Speaker 3: wish you we could show pictures here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get that Facebook page and real quick. When
Speaker 2: we come back, we will finish out with some more
Speaker 2: favorite plants. You don't want to miss that. Some of
Speaker 2: them are actually things you might want in your garden.
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Speaker 2: You're listening to Let's Garden with Scott Berline here with
Speaker 2: Mark Wessell, chief horticulturist at Gardens Alive, and h it
Speaker 2: has come Well, We're still in the midst of our
Speaker 2: favorite plants right now. And I'm gonna let you go
Speaker 2: first again. You've got a doozy of a controversial plant. Well, uh,
Speaker 2: not that controversial anymore. From the right, right, right, it's
Speaker 2: not too controversial, mimosa. Yeah, just you know, this goes
Speaker 2: back to my childhood. Those cool, beautiful, puffy flowers and.
Speaker 1: Absolutely gorgeous plant. Very tropical looking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very tropical. It doesn't look like it belongs here.
Speaker 1: It does and it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's just an interesting planet. It seems to
Speaker 3: be like the road cuts.
Speaker 1: And yeah that's another legoo right yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And its marginally hardy here some I mean not more
Speaker 3: than marginal. Yeah, it still gets.
Speaker 2: And as we get warmer, I think, you know, we
Speaker 2: might start seeing it invade more than it is. It
Speaker 2: does seed around now, but it does get worse and
Speaker 2: down south.
Speaker 3: It's oh bad news, right, bad news. Yeah, sorry, folks, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the problem for you, but here.
Speaker 2: It's one of the things, one of your burdens for
Speaker 2: you have to deal with for living in warmer climates.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Besides the humidity and uh, chiggers
Speaker 3: and snakes and snakes, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I have got I don't even know how to say,
Speaker 2: this plant, and it's a really unusual one, but Ryan
Speaker 2: Cospera Colorado good enough. It's called white top sedge. It's
Speaker 2: not a sedge, it's something else. But it's such a
Speaker 2: funky plant. We're using it at the zoo and so
Speaker 2: I get to see it there, and I've seen it
Speaker 2: one other place I can't remember where, but it's sort
Speaker 2: of it looks like a sedge, but about three feet no,
Speaker 2: not that two and a half, two feet high, with
Speaker 2: just this really funky little flower that.
Speaker 1: Attracts pollinators. It's really cool.
Speaker 2: It's one worth looking up. White sedge, white top sedge,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to jump in with calam mints, Calamintha
Speaker 2: nepita napita or cat mints, not cat net, but cat mints.
Speaker 2: And there's several varieties out there. White cloud, blue cloud,
Speaker 2: mantre's white marvel at blue triumphader. That's what I haven't seen.
Speaker 2: It can be used as an herb, it's you know,
Speaker 2: but basically it's a front of the border little plant
Speaker 2: like an alyssa maybe, but it's perennial, perennial seas around, subtle.
Speaker 3: Subtle, like a showstopper, but a good filler.
Speaker 1: Good filler, and polliniers flocked to it. And it's tough,
Speaker 1: and it's tough for good hot dry sites. You got
Speaker 1: anything left?
Speaker 2: No, you don't, Okay, so I'll carry on another truce
Speaker 2: edge kerr ex Oshi Mensa ever Rilloh, it's nice from
Speaker 2: an Irish breeder. I think David Hoffman might talk about
Speaker 2: this a little bit when he comes on it a
Speaker 2: little bit later in the show.
Speaker 1: But super bright gold foliage. It's it's just really good.
Speaker 2: A little grassy looking thing maybe six eight inches high,
Speaker 2: a little bit of a weep to a little bit
Speaker 2: of a curve, and you know, if you need that
Speaker 2: bright color in a spot to lighten it up or
Speaker 2: be a focal point or whatever, it's a really good.
Speaker 1: Plant for that.
Speaker 3: That's one of those fun new you know.
Speaker 1: Newish things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it comes from Ireland, of all places. I met
Speaker 3: the breeder, did you this winter? Okay? Very interesting man?
Speaker 1: How many of that series are out.
Speaker 3: At least I've yeah around that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So there's yeah, one's ever gold ever Rillow. They all
Speaker 2: have ever in the name, and I don't know exactly why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can find them out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're pretty common tropicals. I don't. I'm not a
Speaker 1: big tropical grower.
Speaker 3: You do a few, yeah, tender perennials.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't fit into my garden really well, but
Speaker 2: I sure do appreciate them when I see him around.
Speaker 2: And it's one of those groups of plants I don't
Speaker 2: know that well yet, So it's kind of like enjoy
Speaker 2: it without having too much information in your head.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a different different things.
Speaker 3: I would like to use some more. I just don't
Speaker 3: have the space the sun and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got the pool deck area which would look
Speaker 2: nice with the tropical, but then there's more of a
Speaker 2: naturalistic landscape all around, so I think it would fit
Speaker 2: in like a sore thumb, maybe, yeah, sort of.
Speaker 3: Maybe some of these fancy designer people that you know
Speaker 3: can help you bridge that gap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be nice. I will rely on that.
Speaker 2: I will call them up ten thirty at night or
Speaker 2: during dinner time or something and to stay on the
Speaker 2: line with them for about an hour, peppering with questions, peppering, peppering.
Speaker 3: Who does that?
Speaker 2: I don't Mangavi's. So these are Hans Hansen's creation with
Speaker 2: who is it spring meadow or no?
Speaker 1: Walters Walters Walter and these are.
Speaker 2: Crosses between what agave and Manfreda Manfreda and they're very cool.
Speaker 2: They look a lot like Agave's and they work really
Speaker 2: well in gardens, not hardy up north, but you bring
Speaker 2: them inside really nice. So yep, that wraps up our
Speaker 2: favorite plants. Right now, when we come back, what are
Speaker 2: we going to talk about, Mark, We're going to talk
Speaker 2: about peach breeding and other things that you saw on
Speaker 2: your trip down south, and that will be really interesting.
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