1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: This is the Mark Madden Show. By the way, Sid 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: and Mario, Sid and Mario, and I've witnessed it all 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: up close. I am a lucky boy. You can follow 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Mark Madden x. The Steelers running 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: game was explosive. Duh Warren with a couple of forty 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: five yard touchdown runs. Gainwell with a forty five yard 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: touchdown reception. Three touchdowns by the backs of exactly forty 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: five yards. Gainwell keeps being a factor and made that insane. 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: That touchdown reception he was on the ground. I thought 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: at first it was a short hop, but it hit 11 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: his hand on the ground and he got up and 12 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: just ran it in the dbat like didn't know what 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: was going on. Here's what's going on. You just got 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: fried for a touchdown, feeling with four catches, which is bizarre. 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: He's thirty five and he just got here. Rogers was 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: very good. They didn't miss what at all at all. 17 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Sawyer with five tackles, my guy, the modern day Warrior. 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: It was some game, very entertaining, and like I said, 19 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: the refs got the calls right. But how often do 20 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: you get all the calls on a given day, And 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: it's why you won yesterday and why you wanted Baltimore. 22 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Maybe the Steelers are a team of destiny and now 23 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: you've won three straight and yeah, go ahead and went 24 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: out like I've been preaching and hoping and commanding them 25 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: to do. I got to talk Sid, congratulations to him. 26 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm pissed I couldn't be there. I was doing a 27 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: Steeler watch party. How dare he pass Mario on a 28 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: rare occasion when I couldn't be there? But I'm so 29 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: glad he passed Mario in a victory that they broke 30 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: the eight game losing by beating Montreal in a shootout. 31 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: Sid would have been really pissed. Had he broken the 32 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: record on a day they lost a ninth straight game, 33 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: he'd have really hated it. Sid, Mario, Yogurt, Malkin, they 34 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: all played there. It's a Champagne franchise and it transcends 35 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: Original six. We talk about Original six. Penguins are a 36 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: bigger deal than the Rangers, bigger deal than Detroit. Well, 37 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: Detroit had that run with Lidstrom. Boston pops up occasionally 38 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: the Blackhawks. They had that one of three Cups Montreal Toronto. 39 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: When's the last time they won Penguins are a Champagne franchise, 40 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: and the Pirates think got nobody since Brandon Lale last week. 41 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: We didn't get the Japanese guy the Chicago White Sox did. Hey, 42 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh can't even keep in the comma open. How are 43 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: we gonna get a Japanese guy now? The DK thing, 44 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: he's a total idiot. You can't punch a fan, no 45 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: matter what, No matter what he said, I guess Ocho 46 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: Cinco said he texted DK and that DK said the 47 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: guy used the N word. I don't believe that for 48 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: a second, that Ocho Cinco even texted DK. But what's 49 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: DK even doing over there anyway? I've not heard an explanation, 50 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: but there simply can't be a good one. There can't be. 51 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: You gotta be a pro. You can't slug a fan 52 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: for heck's sake. I wasn't surprised when Ocho Cenko said 53 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: what he said, and I bet DK says it too. 54 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna use the Miles Garrett Miles Garrett En word defense, 55 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: but I got a question. Nobody believed Garrett when he 56 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: said it. How come you believe our black guy and 57 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: not their black guy. You know what the answer is 58 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: he's our black guy. You want it to be true. 59 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't believe Mason Rudolph said it. I don't believe 60 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: this fan said it. So you got uh dky punched 61 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: the fan and dropping balls and committing OPI DK is 62 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: a waste of money. I bet he gets a one 63 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: game suspension, and I bet the only reason he's getting 64 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: that is cause the Steelers have pretty much wrapped up 65 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: the AFC North. If it was a competitive situation where 66 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers had to win both games at the end 67 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: to whin the AFC North, I bet DK would just 68 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: get a fine because the NFL does not like to 69 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: suspend in situations that affect competitive balance. And then he 70 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: got hy a black flipping off the Detroit sideline and 71 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: it all reflects directly and poorly on Mike Tomlin. And 72 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: I know we're celebrating yankin Cranken. Don't wake up and 73 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: thank me about Tomlin having another non losing season. I'm 74 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: more concerned about him being not in control of his players, 75 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: him not holding players accountable and being two buddy buddy, 76 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: like when Ramsey got ejected against Cincinnati for punching Jamar Chase. 77 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: Tomlin was in Ramsey's corner. Tom Win should have benched 78 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: k Hey yesterday after he found out what happened, should 79 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: have bench dk should have benched ye Black, But it 80 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: don't matter because Tomlin wants to be their friend. There's 81 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: a few other things I think play into it that 82 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm just not going to discuss. The Steelers under Tomlin 83 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: don't have enough discipline and do not have enough class. 84 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: Are the Steelers legits? That's the big question today. Can 85 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: the Steelers win a playoff game? I'm not sure. I 86 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: think there's a chance. There's no denying three straight wins 87 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: and you got to win a playoff game. All this 88 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: good that's going on that you're excited about, it's all 89 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: a useless bag of excrement if they don't win a 90 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: playoff game. Rogers is the catalyst period. Whoever second on 91 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: the Steelers in that regard is quite a distance behind him. 92 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: What a show is going to be today? It's the 93 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: last show until Friday, Well, actually tomorrow we'll have a 94 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: brief a Hockey night show day show because the Penguins 95 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: and Leafs play at four pm. Here are all the 96 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: action right here on one O five to nine. The 97 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: X and come watch the game with me at Dino's 98 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: and Latrobe the fourth day of my Penguins residency at 99 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: that very popular spot. Great wings, great popcorn, great everything. 100 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: Uh hey, praise Jeebus for getting us out of work. 101 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: Plays the Penguins, Well the Leafs really for scheduling a 102 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: four o'clock game. God bless us. Everyone gonna talk to 103 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: Tommy Radio next one oh five to nine. The Steelers 104 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: as an organization should be embarrassed by the DK Metcalf 105 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: then punching a fan going over to the stands to 106 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: do so. But they're not. Tom went to kind comment 107 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: because he said he didn't see it. I guarantee he 108 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: knew about it. Tom Win should have benched Metcalf when 109 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: he found out. The NFL should have kicked Metcalf out 110 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: at halftime. I know technically the ref have to see it, 111 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: but punching a fan transcends that. But you gotta forgive 112 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: coach t because he's never had a losing season. What 113 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: a fun game, What a fun football game. I was 114 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: at celebrations in Imperial, big crowd, roucous crowd, and the 115 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: Steelers due definitely have something going. I'm just not sure 116 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: how much or what it leads to how about when 117 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: bos missed the field goal thirty seven yards joint off 118 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: the operating indoors. How's he missed that kick indoors? It 119 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: felt like a death sense. But again, lately, everything goes 120 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: right for the Steelers, even when it goes wrong. Let's 121 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: talk to Tommy Radio. Tom. I feel like the ref's 122 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: got the calls right on Detroit's last drive. What say you, Yeah? 123 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: I think they did get the calls right. 124 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: I think they just botched completely the way they explained 125 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: the final play of the game. You know you said 126 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: it in the open today, getting the crowd pop going 127 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: by ruling it a touchdown and then having to pump 128 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: the brakes on it. It was weird. It was like 129 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: they were messing with them, so they botched that. But 130 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: other than that, I had no with the refs. As 131 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: you've pointed out, though it is a lucky streak the 132 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: Steelers are on of getting yeah. 133 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the OPI, which is epidemic in the league, 134 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: and it's always been committed, it's just now being called. 135 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: Like I said, I think somebody sent out a memo 136 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: and yesterday's game was very much affected by that. On 137 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. I felt like that play 138 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: was dead anyway on that lateral to GoF that that 139 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: they said was a touchdown on the field, I feel 140 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: that Saint Bron had been essentially tackled, like his forward 141 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 1: progress had been halted sufficiently more than sufficiently. 142 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he got blown back like what two 143 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: or three yards by Ramsey and I think it was 144 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: Porter who was rallying to the ball to I could 145 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: be mistaken on who else it was, but I know 146 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: it was definitely Ramsey. 147 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: Uh. 148 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: It was weird to me that they acted like that 149 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: play was a continuation and that if there wasn't a 150 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: pass interference penalty, the Lions would have gotten into the 151 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: end zone for almost a walk off touchdown with Jared 152 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: Goff catching that lateral would have been an amazing play. 153 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: Then you go to review that. That's tough review if 154 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: you like imaginum. 155 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: Reception got called back, which it should have. That was 156 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: a trapped catch by Franco. Like I said earlier, I 157 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: bet the refs were trying to figure out if the 158 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: game should end on that play, which it obviously can't. 159 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: You could end the game on an offensive penalty, but 160 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: not defensively. What's your play the game talk because Warren 161 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: died those two long touchdown runs, but the game well, 162 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: touchdown catch on the ground, he gets up in scores. 163 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: That turned the game totally around, and thank god did 164 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: it happened because it opened the game up. 165 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: The game was crap till that, Yeah, no question, that 166 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: is the play of the game. Probably play the season 167 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: for the Steelers, maybe up there for the play of 168 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: the year. As far as the NFL in general is concerned, 169 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: it was truly amazing. Can I throw a sneaky contender 170 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: at you, though, the Kyle Dugger safety, because when Darnell 171 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 2: Washington fumbled at the nine, I thought, oh crap, what 172 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: a great drive that just got undone to open the 173 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 2: second half. Now the lines are gonna go take control 174 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: of this football game. And then Dugger comes up with 175 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: that big play on third down. 176 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: There is Gainwell, for real, he's on some run, isn't he. 177 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: I think he is? For real? 178 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: He isn't in the class of like a Christian McCaffrey 179 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: or even a Jamier Gibbs, where they're just as deadly 180 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: as a receiver as they are a running back. But 181 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: he's like in the tier below those guys. As far 182 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: as that type of running back is. His ability in 183 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: the pass catching game is so impressive. I know that 184 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: that's seventy eight yards was kind of inflated by the 185 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: forty five yard amazing play, but still leading the team 186 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: in receptions for a second week in a row and 187 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: being effective as he is in doing so. That is 188 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: the player that if you were going to look for 189 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: a runner up as far as team MVP or catalyst, 190 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: it might be him. 191 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: Would you bring him back? And how long? 192 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: How much I'd offer him? Probably what two years? God, 193 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 2: it's a running back, so it's tough to really pay them. 194 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: It would probably take what like three point five a year, 195 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: four a year. 196 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: I hesitate to give him even that. Well, he's a 197 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: career backup. I mean this might be a fluke. In fact, 198 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt, it could be a fluke. 199 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: His ability in the pass catching game, though, I bet 200 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: his agent's gonna come to the table with that and say, 201 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: I need more money there because I'm not just a 202 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: threat in the backfield. 203 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: The old line deserves lots of credit. The running game, 204 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: as we've discussed, is very good. The lines only got 205 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: two sacks despite you know, no Siamalu Roderck Jones obviously 206 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: still out both by Hutchison. The legend of Dylan Cook 207 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: continues to grow. 208 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: I suppose it's amazing how good he's been, and you 209 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: know it's it's people that know a lot better, right, 210 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: like the trey Essexes of the world. The Max Starks 211 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: on the broadcasts that are, like, this guy's unbelievable. He's 212 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: not missing a step really at all. And one thing 213 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: that Max pointed out last night, Mark that's so impressive 214 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: is they do that musical chairs thing right without Siemali 215 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: when they do the jumbo package where they bump Anderson 216 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: out from guard to do his jumbo spot and then 217 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: they put Pete in there. And that's a lot to 218 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: put on Cook's plate. But he didn't bother at all. 219 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: He didn't blink at all. I still think that's a 220 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: little too much to do. That's overthinking things there. 221 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter, Detroit kept almost catching up. Were 222 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: the Steelers trading points for time and started doing that 223 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: too early and very nearly blew it. The defense got 224 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: very soft, laid back a great deal. 225 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: The defense just fades in all games in the fourth quarter. 226 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: That's a very you know, trendy thing with them is 227 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: that as the games go on, the defense seems to wear. 228 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: That not necessarily trendy, they're they're old. I think that's 229 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: the part of what happens, no doubt. 230 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: And this hasn't been the case in the previous two 231 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: weeks because the Steelers have actually dominated time with possession. 232 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: But they're just on the field forever. 233 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 2: I mean that stat that Jerry through out there where 234 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: they've played almost three more games than the offense, Like 235 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: that's going to lead to the old timers fading, especially 236 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: in fourth quarters. I also think there's a little bit 237 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: to this where the Lions have a really good offense, 238 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: like it's hard to hold them down completely for sixty minutes, 239 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: but the Steelers did get very passive on defense. It 240 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: was easier for them. Yes, the pass rush was incredible 241 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: though for not having her big watch. 242 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: Oh I mean, did they miss Wad at all? No, 243 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, yesterday's game shows they 244 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: shouted to given him that extension, coupled with him being 245 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, mediocre this year and last. And what's so 246 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: weird is like they oocre by the standard of somebody 247 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: getting forty one million per year. 248 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: As a franchise. They This is probably purely accidentally. They 249 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: didn't do this on purpose, obviously, but they positioned themselves 250 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: well to not give what that contract and then maybe 251 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 2: eventually move on from him with her BIG's emergence and 252 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: a good draft pick there. He is too much high 253 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: Smith playing well, and Sawyer was amazing yesterdays that he 254 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: could have had. I thought he blew by them. So 255 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: they positioned themselves to say, hey, you know what, we're 256 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: not gonna give you that contract. 257 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: We'll reevaluate after this year. 258 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: And then they obviously wouldn't if that same year played out, 259 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: but then they just gave him the money. 260 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: Anyway. It's very weird. Now. The offense did good, but 261 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: I still hate the offense, feeling barely. They are thirty 262 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: five years old, four catches, and now he's a featured receiver, 263 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: and I know that's because that's what Rogers wants. And 264 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: I hear people on on the radio today saying this 265 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: team can beat anybody into playoffs, not with Adam Field 266 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: as the number two receiver. But then again, I mean, 267 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: would Calvin Austin be in? I mean, I just don't 268 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: like the offense. 269 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: That's where I'm at right there with the last thing 270 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: that you were saying, because you were thinking, yeah, Cleeland 271 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: can't be your number two option. It wouldn't work in 272 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: the playoffs. But then you say, okay, who else Calvin 273 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: Austin is going to start to work in there? 274 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: Continue reliance on the fat kid and who did not 275 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: play well yesterday? Right, and you know, not using Friarmouth 276 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: and John who except for token, you know, targets. I 277 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: just take the offense, and I don't believe in the. 278 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: Offense everything that Washington does quite frankly, pat Fryarmuth can do. 279 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: I mean, sure Darnell blows up people and runs him over. 280 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: Maybe Farmuth wouldn't do that, but he's still you know, 281 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: stiff arm a guy break a tackle. 282 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: He'd be faster than Darnell Washington obviously. 283 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: And again Darnell fumbled at nine yard line and was 284 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: out of place in a different couple of plays. 285 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: I thought he had a really bad afternoon. Uh what's 286 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: your take on metcalf and Black? I feel it makes 287 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: the organization and tom Win look bad and undisciplined, and 288 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody cares but me. 289 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: I think Black should give Metcalf a pretty nice Christmas 290 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: gift because people are kind of glossing over that part 291 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,479 Speaker 2: of what happened. The burg caught on a TV broadcast 292 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: doing that because of Metcalf's actions with Metcalf. 293 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: It just boils down to you can't go over there. 294 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: You can't do that, like, no. 295 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: Matter what the fans said and all the speculation, And 296 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: that's what I'm kind of sick of. Its Like, it's 297 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: not he said. She said, saying, oh, did he have 298 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: a racial slur involved or not? And he's saying he didn't. 299 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: He said he did, And we're just debating this stuff 300 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: when it just boils down to why was DK Metcalf 301 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: what ten to fifteen yards away from the bench straying 302 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: over to the stands. 303 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: That's unacception. I don't care that he had a history 304 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: with the guy. No, we're told this guy's a loser 305 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: with blue hair. I mean, what does d K care 306 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: about that guy? I heard he called him by his 307 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: full name, you know, called his mother and name the 308 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: N word. Dependent on who you believe in, I don't 309 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: believe any of it. Okay, say it's all true, though, 310 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: who cares anyway? Again, why are you going over there? 311 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: Why are children you're a Steeler, it's assault and it 312 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: just looks bad. You have to take the high road 313 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: in that situation. Have you noticed that the whole time's backing. 314 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: Him because they think the fans are racist, because I 315 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: think they believe into that or fan assaulted him. 316 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: We think three Miles Garrett. I don't think Mason Rudolph 317 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: did that though out there this guy didn't. Sure. I mean, 318 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: it's it's it's we're gonna believe our black guy, but 319 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: not they're black guy. That's exactly what this is. In 320 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: a very roundabout way. It's racist. 321 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, really, I just don't buy 322 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: at all this whole excuse of, well, the refs didn't 323 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: see it, so we can't eject him from the game. 324 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: Of course, you get the refs barely watch the game. 325 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: They always huddle and have New York make all the 326 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: penalty calls for them. Anyway, I forget, I forget what 327 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: the reference was. But I talked to Jean Sterretor about 328 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: about a call that it could have come like way 329 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: after the fact, and I said, well, you can't do that, 330 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: and Jeane said, it's the NFL. They can do anything 331 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: they want. 332 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: And that ever since you've had that conversation. I don't 333 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: know when that was, but it's played out that way. 334 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: Mark New York officiates these games. The refs on the 335 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: field are just drones, just mouthpieces for whatever their earpiece says. 336 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: They should let actual drones ref the game that's probably coming. 337 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, have them fly over like remember 338 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: we were we were pioneers with that on this show. 339 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: I don't know it was when you produced or not, 340 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: but we had the NFL head replay official on Oh God, 341 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: I forget his name, oh. 342 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: Randall teev oh okay, and he talked about having like 343 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: like kind of a Zeppelin type thing hovering over the 344 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: field to make calls. Really, yeah, that's pretty cool idea. 345 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: Actually his name was TiVo, the guy who was the 346 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: replay yea coincidence. 347 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: Uh up, Next, we're gonna talk about uh sid passing 348 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: Mario in the Penguins finally winning a game. Uh. The 349 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: first hour of the show brought to us by Shandorovich, 350 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: Shandrovitch and Fishman. They've Got Your Back, Not Your Wallet 351 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: one O five to nine, Naughty four point five three 352 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: WS Pittsburgh's Christmas Music Sidney Crosby now the Penguins all 353 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: time leading score, getting two points yesterday to pass Mario Lemux. 354 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: Mary Lemue not there, but had a great video message 355 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: that the crowd was stone cold silent to listen. It 356 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: was like the Pope was up during the Jumbo tronen. 357 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: As far as the Penguins are concerned, he was so 358 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: just a great moment, Sid passing Mario. Uh, I'm gonna 359 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: talk to Tommy Radio tom Sid took four hundred and seventy 360 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: two more games to top Mario and points. We know 361 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: that because Sid keeps telling us he broke the record, 362 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: but took great pains to keep the spotlight on Mario. 363 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: A pure class by Sid. 364 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 2: It's just the textbook Sidney Crosby way of dealing with 365 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: something like this. And you've said so many times and 366 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: in dealing with him, he hates this kind of stuff, 367 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: just wants to move past it as fast as he can. 368 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: But this one is truly a great milestone, you know, 369 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: like some of the other milestones that pop up around him, Yeah, 370 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: they're cool, they're kind of like Easter eggy type things. 371 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: But this is a big, big deal franchise leader in 372 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: points and a franchise like this and passing a player 373 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 2: like that and their relationship personally, it's fantastic, right, And. 374 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: You make a good point about it for a franchise 375 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: like this. I have mentioned that frequently that nobody cares 376 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: who the leading score for Carolina is or you know, Nashville, 377 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: any number of franchises, even like some of the Expansion 378 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: original expansion teams like Saint Louis, I don't even know 379 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: who their leading score is, and I bet it's nobody 380 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: very significant. Maybe Brett Hull from when I don't know. 381 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: I just don't know was the point. How about the 382 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: Canadian writer right away? He wrote, Sid's done all he 383 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: can for Pittsburgh. Now he needs to be traded to 384 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: a team in Canada. Give it a rest for a day, 385 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: for heck's sake. Yeah, read the room. 386 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: I mean Canadian guy though, right, wasn't a sports trying 387 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: to force feed that into happening. 388 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: They're trying to rumor it into reality. Yeah? 389 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know what, you're never gonna quit that. 390 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: I understand that you've just decided that that's what you 391 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 2: guys are gonna do up there. 392 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: Fine, but for one night, give it a rest. I'm 393 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: not even rolling out that he does go someho but 394 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: read the room. I hope, I hope it's better than 395 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: the teams in Canada if he if he switches, like 396 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: people talk about him going to Montreal, Montreal offers no guarantees. 397 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: They're an okay team and they're a young team. But 398 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: but again, if if Sid wanted a young team on 399 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: the rise, maybe the Penguins can yet become that, especially 400 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: if they draft McKenna like like this slump dictates they might. 401 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: I mean, eight straight losses until the win over Montreal, 402 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows where they're gonna pick now, Sid 403 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: broke uh Mario's mark based on consistency, Tom, He's a 404 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: top five player all time based on consistency. He's like 405 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: a metronome. He's just inevitable. 406 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why that consistency is why he's aged 407 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: so gracefully, and he's still a top player in this 408 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: league at this age, and he doesn't seem to be 409 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: slowing down at all. 410 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: And the consistency is rought from conditioning and knowing textbook 411 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: how to play the game, what to do in every 412 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: single situation. 413 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: I mean, when he tied Limu last night, it was 414 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 2: his twentieth goal of the season at his age, so 415 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: he's remarkable. He's going to go past thirty goals this year, 416 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: and that consistency is also why I strongly believe he 417 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: will pass Yager and he will for bee a two 418 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: thousand points scorer. 419 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: I don't know I thought about this. I don't know 420 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: if he's going to get to two thousand points, which 421 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: would require like a minimum of three more seasons, we 422 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: might be overestimating his future tenure how much longer he 423 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: plays tom even though physically I think he could play 424 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: till he'st forty five, I'm just not sure how long 425 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna want to in part two if the Penguins 426 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: rebuilding process doesn't accelerate. 427 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that for sure, But I also just 428 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: feel like he doesn't want to do anything else right, 429 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: but then to go out there and play a hockey game. 430 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 2: Like I just don't think he as long as he 431 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: will physically be able to. I think there's a chance 432 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 2: that he'll stay in the league. 433 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: Might want to be a father. He has pointedly put 434 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: that off till after he's done playing. 435 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: Very fair, if he does want to open up the 436 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: next chapter in his life, hey, all more power to him. 437 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: I just I just wonder if he'd be ready for 438 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: that right now? Who am I to say? 439 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: Though? No, no, who am I to say? But this 440 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: is a long you know, time to fill on the 441 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: radio every day. Sit and Mario. I'm so happy and 442 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: I feel privileged that I've seen all of it up close. 443 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: But they're just so different. Mario was an alien. He 444 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: just did I mean, how do you do that? Like, 445 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: you know, time after time, year after year, and he 446 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: was three different players. Like after the back injury, he 447 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: lost a bit of the shaken bake, but he figured 448 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: out even pure offensive skills. Then after the comeback, he 449 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: just knew how to get points. He knew how to 450 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: set up, he knew where to be. He was just 451 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: a big time hockey IQ guy. Sid's been the same 452 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: player's whole career And that's amazing. 453 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: I like how you put it that Lemieu was like 454 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: an alien, because he really was just like a monstrous 455 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: figure out there on the ice. Like that's another big 456 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: difference between the two of them. Just like the size 457 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: that Lemieux was able to play at that speed and 458 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 2: skill with was just something that you'd never see before. 459 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you said it'll be the first to tell 460 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: you too, like lem You is the better player. I mean, 461 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it. And he keeps hammering that 462 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: home as you keep pointing out with telling everybody it 463 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: took me almost five hundred more games to do this. 464 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And that's just Sid being Sid, Sid being 465 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: pure class for a and all time great player, be 466 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: the Penguins patriarch, and be a former teammate and see 467 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: a former teammate and a very close friend. I'm relieved 468 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: is a good word that the Penguins won when Sid 469 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: past Mario, because it would have diminished the accomplishment the 470 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: moment to him greatly that they. 471 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: Lost Mark, especially if they lost the way that game 472 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 2: played out right like he had past Lemieu. The Penguins 473 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: go up two to one, then then they blow another 474 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: lead right then it goes to the shootout. Then they 475 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 2: lose in the shootout for the sixth time this year, 476 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: and she Lofts is the goalie again, Like it would 477 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: have just been disaster. 478 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: He would have been depressed at the locker. You got 479 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: a sub she loss out. That's kind of kind of 480 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: going off the conversation right now. But he opened his 481 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: legs all three times to the five one they just 482 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: happened to hit his pad twice. 483 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: He did not win the shootout. Montreal lost this. They missed, 484 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: the shooters just missed. Yeah, he's awful at it, but 485 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: it would have really ruined the night for him. Like 486 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 3: I said, he would have been gloomy at the locker 487 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 3: having that night happened, and big about this. 488 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: Think about this Sid's mood at the end of the 489 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: night in which he achieved one of his biggest accomplishments 490 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 1: was put in the hands of art tors Shiloffs. I 491 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: also think that that had to be one of the first. 492 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: It probably not, but the given a mental patient a 493 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: machine gun. 494 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 2: Nine game losing streaks, Sid's probably faced or one of 495 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: the very few that he's been a part of in 496 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: his career. 497 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: Oh, I would think eight was tops man. Exactly where's 498 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: Bob Grove when you need him? 499 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: Uh? 500 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: Now, I will say, and this is no knock. Sid 501 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: slowed a bit lately. He accelerated again yesterday, but but 502 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: he had zero points in three out of four games 503 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: before yesterday. Then again, when you get shut out for 504 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: both games of the Dad's trip, nobody gets points. But 505 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: but uh, that's gonna happen the occasional slow spell, not 506 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: bad spell. Slow spell is gonna happen when you're thirty five, 507 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 1: excuse me thirty eight. But I hasten to point out 508 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: when Wayne Gretzky was thirty eight, he got nine goals 509 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: the whole season, and Sid already has twenty. Yeah, he 510 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: already has twenty. 511 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: It is also amazing, Mark, Like, you're right, he was 512 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: slowing down a little bit production wise, still playing fantastic 513 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: for his age, but he gets close to that point 514 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: per game thing, right, like in that amazing streak that 515 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: he has there too, and then he explodes past it 516 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: last night by having a three point game. Now he's 517 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: got thirty seven and thirty five games, like, he will 518 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: just always average a point per game, and until he doesn't, 519 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: I'll continue to believe he'll do so. 520 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: Would it surprise you if the year he quit would 521 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: be the year after he does get a point per game? No, 522 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. 523 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: How much he puts into these kind of streaks and stats, 524 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: but I think you know. 525 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about about a streak or a stat 526 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm talking about a barometer. 527 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: If he's consistent, he'll say, Okay, I've dipped too far. 528 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 2: Yea and now it's time to walk away before it gets. 529 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: Because even though he's not a stat guy, there has 530 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: to be some barometer. 531 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: And you've always said you don't think he plays bottom six. 532 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: He never adjusts to that role. 533 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: He's always a trot Trotz was a different type of player, 534 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: different type of cats. Now, to be fair, Sid could 535 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: be Trotz and he'd be a fantastic Trotz, but he's 536 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: just not gonna do that. I wonder what his role 537 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: is going to be on Team Canada. 538 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: Do you think he'll put him on the wing. No, No, 539 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: he'll play center. Yes, I wonder Nate Dog on his wing. 540 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 2: I wonder third line center. Is he on the first 541 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: power play? 542 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. 543 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: I would probably assume that he'll be on second center 544 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: with Nate Dog on his wing. 545 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'd be tempted to do. He's not 546 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: in a power play. Use him at long last the 547 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: penalty kill and he's never done it, but I know 548 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: he'd be one of the best ever at the p K, 549 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: and he'd be willing to do it for Team Canada 550 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: right wanting to do it for the Penguins, be willing 551 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: to do it. I don't think there's much Sid would 552 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: would say no to up next more stillar talk, we 553 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: got the trifecta. We got Peter McGuire later, we got 554 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. Later. It's The mark Man Show one oh 555 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: five to nine from the one oh five nine the 556 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: ex Weather Center. On Okay, Tom, we have some news. 557 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: The blue haired guy that DK punch has lawyered up 558 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: and issued a statement. Do you think he called Shandorovic, 559 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: Schendrovic and Fisherman they do sponsor the first hour of 560 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: the show, you know, Or do you think he called Saul. 561 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he called either of them. 562 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: So I think he's going to be charged forty percent, 563 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 2: which is just a crime, as you know, because cender Ovitch, 564 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: Cendrorovic and Fisherman only charged twenty five percent. Yeah, that's 565 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: what I hear. Anyway, what did the statement say? So, 566 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: I guess this guy's name is Ryan Kennedy. He lawyered 567 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: up and he categorically denies using the N word, the 568 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: C word, or any racial, misogynistic or hate based slur 569 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: during the incident. He released the statement because he's been 570 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 2: getting a ton of threats, harassment, and ISOLT messages because 571 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: of what Ocho Cinco accused him of saying on that podcast. 572 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: I heard most of those threats were made by Kabali, 573 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: But but I can't confue this Lions fan. Yes, uh so, 574 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: I mean I would think if he did anything that 575 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: Ocho Cinco talked about, you know where he texted, And 576 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: I don't believe he talked to Dank or texted. I 577 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: think a dope like Kim plays very fast and loose 578 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: with the truth because he's not real media, never got 579 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: trained in it. But but if he did indeed do 580 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: any of the things Thatcho, Cinko or metcf or whoever 581 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: accuses him of, it's easily verified. There were a whole 582 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: bunch of people right behind him. Yeah, that's kind of 583 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: where I land on it too. 584 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: It's kind of the same thing we said with the 585 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph thing, right Like we just kind of used 586 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: context clues and we're like, if he said what Garrett 587 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: accused him of, other players on the field, maybe even 588 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 2: some Steelers teammates would have gone nuts in that situation. 589 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 2: Same thing kind of applies here, right Like, just people 590 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: sitting around him in the stands of security guard like 591 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: people wouldn't have just let that go let that fly 592 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: if he's hurling these insults, if he's like Alan Tutick 593 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: Steve the Pirate in the movie forty two to DK Metcalf, 594 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: like the. 595 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: Crowd's not going to allow that to happen. Yeah, well, 596 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 1: I mean maybe. I mean, well they did it in 597 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: forty two. That was a different time, I mean, right, right, 598 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think DK Metcalf was one thousand 599 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: in the wrong. Yes, Okay, what's the trifecta? Tom brought 600 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: to us by Danny's Petron Hogy's in Bethel Park. 601 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: It's very fitting because this trifecta is athletes fighting fans. 602 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: I've got a trifecta of instances when that happened. Number three, 603 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Tie doming when he fought that 604 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Flyers fan that fell into the. 605 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: Penalty He didn't really fight him the guy. He licked 606 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: him up a little bit. He kind of just kind 607 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: of roughed them like he didn't haul off and belled 608 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: him though. 609 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: But here's the difference between that in this situation and 610 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: a couple of others on this list. The fan fell 611 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: into the penalty box. There you went into the lions. 612 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: Then there same thing with the Browns fan that ran 613 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: onto the field and Harrison suplexed him, like you're on 614 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: the field. 615 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: It's a different story at that point. Well, I'm a 616 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: big tie domeie guy friend of the show, so I'm 617 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: on his side this one. What else, it's a Flyer 618 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: fan too, he deserved it. Uh. 619 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: Bruins and Mike Milberry going into the crowd against the 620 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: New York Ranger fans and Milbury taking the shoe off 621 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: and hitting the fans, hit the guy with the shoe. 622 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: That was tremendous. That that was pretty good. But the 623 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: number one that happened not often back then, but you 624 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: would see like like the Hanson brothers, remember they went 625 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: the stands, No, it's that guy over there. Uh Like 626 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: that was based on that happening happening in real life. Yeah, 627 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: not often, but but but not never either. 628 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: Well, the number one instance is this still has to 629 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 2: be the Malice at the Palace with Ron Artests going 630 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: into the crowd chasing that Detroit Piston fan who ended 631 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: up being the wrong fan who didn't throw the cup 632 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: at him and that's what started him charging at him. 633 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: As with the hands that guy Jeff exactly. So what 634 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: an insane thing. 635 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: That That was when Ron Artest went into the crowd 636 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: in Detroit too, just like DK's incident. 637 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: Now, I know one you don't know about, so I'm 638 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: gonna throw it in there. Yeah. Eric Cantona who played 639 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: for Manchester United the French national team. A fan was 640 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: heckling him. He ran to the barrier and kung fu 641 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: kicked the guy in the head, got drop cake yep, 642 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: like yeah, and got suspended for a year for a 643 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: year year Yeah. 644 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: Okay, Like that shouldn't be off the table completely here 645 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: in this situation, I. 646 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: Would suspend DK METCP for the entirety of the season 647 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: and the playoffs. He did basically the same thing that 648 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: United players did. Actually, you know, you know what I do. 649 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: I would suspend him indefinitely with a reinstatement subject to 650 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: him applying after the season, including the playoffs. Like, but 651 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, they're just not going to do that. 652 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: They're just not I think they might set him for 653 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: at least this Cleveland game. 654 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's nothing. It's not even a meaningful game. 655 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: And I still maintain if the Cleveland game meant more 656 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: than it has turned out. Two, what was Baltimore losing yesterday. 657 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: That very likely to just get a fine Tom. What 658 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: happened to Baltimore? That's a good question. I thought they 659 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: had the best roster in the league before the season started. 660 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: You know, It's it's weird because on one hand, I 661 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: think Derek Henry keeps fumbling a little too much and 662 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: that's hurting them. But on the other hand, he's still 663 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: such an amazing running back for Harbaugh to just bail 664 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: on him as quickly as he does. I I just 665 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: think the team is plagued by a lot of things. 666 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: The Steelers are plagued with. Honestly, they need to shake up. 667 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: They need to change their head coach. It's just too 668 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: stale though right now, and they're wasting a franchise quarterback 669 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: in their staleness. 670 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's definitely true. Then again, I'm not sure. 671 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar's hurt a lot. 672 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, this year in particular too. You know, how about 673 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: Drake May fantastic? 674 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: Is he the MVP? Stafford's really good too. It's a 675 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: tight race. I'd give it to May because he's elevated 676 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: his team more. I think I still think Josh Allen's 677 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: the best player in football, though, I do, but that's 678 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: a different it is discussion. I mean there's no award, 679 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: is there? There is offensive player over the year, but 680 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: then become the running back award? That's right. 681 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Drake May if he put it this way, 682 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: if he wins MVP, I'm not outraged by it. I 683 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: think he's put up a fantastic season. It was funny 684 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: to see that last night was his first three hundred 685 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: yard passing. 686 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: Game of his career. It took him a little while 687 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, but he's you know what. You 688 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 1: know what's funny too. He was after the game on 689 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: the field doing the post game and he is just 690 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: such a awe shucks. Thank god. Where's he from. I 691 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: don't know where he's from. He went to North Carolina, 692 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: a bit of a Southern twang that makes sense, you know, 693 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: and just you know, like given credit to his teammates. Yeah, 694 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: and like Stefan Diggs, another guy, we're right out there 695 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: and they're kind of looking at him while he was talking. 696 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: Check out this guy, Yeah, exactly. And that's the thing. 697 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: Like Stefan Diggs is a bit of a wild boy, 698 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: but you could tell he has the respect of Drake 699 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: May right now. And he's from North Carolina two Huntersville, 700 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: North Carolina. When they asked Stephan Diggs after the game, 701 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: where can this team go? Like what's the ceiling? Digs 702 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: kind of just like pointed at May and May was 703 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: just like, we're just gonna win next week. And then 704 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: they just walked off the field. I mean, he's got 705 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: the command of that. 706 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: And by the way, that is why athlete interviews on 707 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: the field are useless because nothing interesting ever gets said, 708 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: like maybe one time out of one hundred. 709 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 2: Like they never say we're gonna win the super Bowl. 710 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: Guarantee it right now, book it on this field right now. Yeah, 711 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: it's always just praise be to Jeebus. Always it's that. 712 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: And I know tis the season and we just want 713 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: to win next week and we're happy to win today 714 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: and I had a lot of help from my teammates 715 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 1: and yacht. Yeah, it's just milk toone. And don't get 716 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: me wrong, I don't expect them to say anymore. I'm 717 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: just pretty much referring to the frivolity of even doing 718 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: it at all. 719 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: Are you surprised at all that there's not more players 720 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: that kind of buck that trend though, and show a 721 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: little more personality in those postgame interviews, because it seems 722 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: like it's all Vanella Now. 723 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: I think if they had time to think more, they 724 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: might show more more personality. I just think they're trying 725 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: to not say anything grievously stupid, getting a micro shown 726 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: shoved in their face immediately after the game ends. When 727 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: when emotions? I mean, in that case they won, But 728 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, No, I think you're spot 729 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: on there. I think what's even stupid is interviewing the 730 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: coaches going on and off the field at halftime time, 731 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: going into the locker room. What went wrong? Coach? What 732 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: are you gonna change? Hey, guess what I got? Next time? 733 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna be excited, So I have to guess. Yes, 734 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: I have no idea where I'd even start bun Ko 735 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: Talk one five, nine. It's so wooty.