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Speaker 1: You see, football has a big game on Saturday on

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Speaker 1: the road against Utah, and so because we talked hoops yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, it's worth mentioning. You see just

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Speaker 1: sent out a statement Jalen Haynes has had successful knee surgery,

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Speaker 1: so that story advances. They're still saying he's out and

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Speaker 1: definitely beyond that, We've got a football game to discuss

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Speaker 1: with our guy, Chad Bearcat Journal dot com is the website?

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Speaker 1: Ay doing, sir, I'm good?

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Speaker 2: I have a question for you. Oh no, to start

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Speaker 2: this off. No, So I was on with a Utah

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Speaker 2: radio station earlier today, Okay, and they open with, you know,

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Speaker 2: Chad Cincinnati. It's a great story and all, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know what to make of them. I look at

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Speaker 2: their schedule and they haven't beaten anybody. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know if anybody's going to tell them or not, but

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Speaker 2: Utah's played two good teams and they've lost to both

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Speaker 2: of them. Do that seem like an odd starting point

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Speaker 2: for you for them to come at me with that?

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Speaker 1: Somewhat?

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: I do think there's I think it's kind of what

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Speaker 1: makes this game on Saturday interesting. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: weird starting off point for a conversation, But I think

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Speaker 1: there's a legitimate sense of like, all right, you see

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Speaker 1: has a good record, they're an improved team, and there's

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Speaker 1: lots to like about it, but there's a hesitancy to

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Speaker 1: include them in a larger discussion about the Big Twelve

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Speaker 1: championship until they win a game like the one they

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Speaker 1: have in front of them on Saturday, And if they

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Speaker 1: do that, then the conversation goes into hyperdrive. But I

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Speaker 1: think when you've gotten through this much of the conference

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Speaker 1: schedule without a loss, I think that to a degree

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Speaker 1: offsets the they haven't played anybody think because it's hard

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Speaker 1: to win in league play.

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Speaker 2: I agree, I just I felt it was a little

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Speaker 2: like it was kind of a and the rest of

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Speaker 2: the interview was good, like the guys were good, but

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Speaker 2: like we're starting there and Utah, like we don't know

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Speaker 2: a lot of Well, maybe we do know about Utah.

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Speaker 2: They've played two good teams or lost to both of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm surprised the number is as hefty as it is.

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I thought Cincinnati would be underdogs. I thought

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Speaker 1: it'd be a touchdown, maybe seven and a half. It's

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Speaker 1: climbed to ten, ten and a half depending on where

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Speaker 1: you go. So this is a pretty uphill battle. What

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Speaker 1: is the biggest part of the challenge on Saturday?

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Speaker 2: Can they be who they've been? And what I mean

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Speaker 2: by that is they haven't let Britain and Soursby get

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Speaker 2: sacked two on the ear. They haven't turned the ball over.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's been a it feels like it's been

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Speaker 2: forever since Cincinnati had a kind of careless turnover that

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Speaker 2: really hurt them. Special teams has been awesome. They've been

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Speaker 2: winning field position, like you know, it's I love that

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Speaker 2: SAT hasn't like gone to the cliches as much as

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Speaker 2: we've heard here in the past. But this is the

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Speaker 2: epitome of complimentary football, right Like defense keeps the other

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Speaker 2: team out of the end zone, offense takes care of

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Speaker 2: the ball. Special teams is dominant. Offensive line is awesome

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Speaker 2: in you know, the in the in the run and

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Speaker 2: the pass game like these are the reasons that Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: is winning. They don't have overwhelming talent, but other than

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Speaker 2: some penalties, mo, I don't recall a Cincinnati team being

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Speaker 2: this clean through eight games. Like it's been enjoyable to

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Speaker 2: watch because they don't hurt themselves, and it felt like

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Speaker 2: for two years that's all we talked about, is can

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Speaker 2: this team stopped shooting itself in the foot, And if

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Speaker 2: they could, it felt like they could be pretty good.

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Speaker 2: You're right, stop shooting themselves in the foot. They're having

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Speaker 2: a great year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no doubt about it. The offensive line play and

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Speaker 1: the ability to not turn it over. It's remarkable how

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Speaker 1: efficient you can be when you have those two things things.

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Speaker 1: How worrisome is Utah's running game.

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Speaker 2: Worry them? I mean they use they essentially use six

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Speaker 2: offensive linement all game. They have a tight end that's

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Speaker 2: on the injuryy board. He was a defensive lineman. They

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Speaker 2: moved him to tight end. He is essentially an extra

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman. If he plays, you're just gonna it's unbelievab Like,

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Speaker 2: it's funny watching this guy play is like a six

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman. He just destroys people. He goes in motion,

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Speaker 2: at one hundred miles an hour. I don't know, Like

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Speaker 2: I think the thing for me and probably everybody, what's

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Speaker 2: the snap counted downtake orleon If it's forty forty five snaps,

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Speaker 2: I feel pretty good. It's twenty seven snaps, I don't

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Speaker 2: feel as good, And it's probably better off listed as

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Speaker 2: like a percentage, right, If it's fifty sixty percent of

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Speaker 2: limit the run. If it's twenty five thirty thirty five

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Speaker 2: because he just takes up so much attention, so much space,

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Speaker 2: and you're playing a team that, I mean, most of

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Speaker 2: their offensive line is going to be in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: This is one of the best offensive lines in the country.

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Speaker 2: They're massive, and stopping them is really, really difficult. This

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Speaker 2: has been outside of Oklahoma State and Bowling Green a

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Speaker 2: pretty good run defense, but they haven't faced anything like this.

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Speaker 1: I am way laid, so I don't have a ton

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Speaker 1: of time. Do I assume Evan Pryor is not going

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Speaker 1: to play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fair assumption. Hopefully they will have him

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Speaker 2: back by the Arizona game. And I can't believe what

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Speaker 2: you've done to me in the last two segments. Now

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Speaker 2: what what I lost time? I'm the Richard Patino.

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Speaker 1: I had Wes Miller on the show yesterday. I had

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Speaker 1: Darren Horne on the show yesterday. I love having Richard

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Speaker 1: Patino on always, the folks at Xavier, always very accommodating

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Speaker 1: the timing of putting him up against you. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure who disliked it more than are you. So there

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Speaker 1: you go.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, I knew that was coming. It's four o'clock. Jake

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Speaker 1: Zivin from MLS Season Past.

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