1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Take me to Judge shot. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: Crawl through the fog at night, show me a chap 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: off the way we're Huggins connors On by Pacy Hold down, June, 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: you my God, help me get. 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 3: Out of the line. 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Take me to charge. Last time I had a shot 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: was the thousand time Chumps troomer away. 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: He nail short of the nye. 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 4: Place the charge. 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Ump you my god, de a saving b Take me 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: to Judge shot. 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: Crawl through the fog. 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 2: Any to show me the cham off the way we're 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: Huggins connors Some by. 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 4: Pacy Hold down little. 16 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: June, you my God, help me get out of the lie. 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: Take me to charge. 18 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: Last time I had a shot was the thousand nine 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: Chumps trooper aware he nailed short of the eye. 20 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: Place the charge jump walking back. 21 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: The final hour is upon us nine to un and 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 3: we are we are efforting an appearance by Paul Charchian. 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: Of course Paul Charchi in longtime co hosts Friday Football 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: Feast and and also and also of course long time 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: fantasy guru that he is, and I believe he joins 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: us now from from his bunker. And maybe we'll just 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: talk to him about the Utah Mammoth the whole time, 28 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: or maybe we get into some fantasy football. 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: How you do in charge? 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 4: I have intended to watch Mammoth, but it hasn't happened yet. 31 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 4: And by all accounts around here, they they say they're 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 4: a fun young team, they've got sparks, or they look fantastic. 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 4: To other times they look terrible. But there's there's a 34 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 4: lot of memeth buzz in Utah. I can assure you 35 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 4: people think this is a this is a good young team. 36 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 4: I don't know enough hockey, especially young up and coming 37 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: players to tell you for sure, but that seems to 38 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 4: be the consensus here. 39 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: Well, before you get your season tickets, they're at they're 40 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: up here in Saint Paul on Saturday, So watch that 41 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: game and then that'll that'll determine what your next steps 42 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: are and your your early Utah fandom. From a fantasy standpoint, 43 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: I know that you're going to be a big part 44 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 3: of the pregame festivities tonight, so we want you to 45 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: maybe save some of your a bits at least as 46 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: it pertains from a Viking standpoint, maybe until later today. 47 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 3: But I want to hit you with this and really 48 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: appreciate your time. But Bo Nicks PA and I were 49 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: having a conversation earlier this week. He does this hyper 50 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: hyper accurate or hyperbolic bit where he just asked some 51 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: of the most might you say, just some some ridiculous questions, 52 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: and we try to run our way through it and 53 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: just find our opinions as they come. But bo Knicks 54 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: had himself a game this last weekend and then you know, 55 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 3: thirty three points in the fourth and they put themselves 56 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: in that spot where they needed that and they needed 57 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: the Giants to turn the ball over and drop a 58 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: complete l on their own heads a mile high. But 59 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: when we're when we're looking at QBS, bo Nicks, I 60 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: think he had the highest scoring fantasy game of any. 61 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: Quarterback all year. 62 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: Where's your head at the development the progression of bon 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: Nicks and maybe from a fantasy standpoint, how reliable he. 64 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: Can be on a weekly basis, it's a Bonnix is. 65 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 4: What he did was remarkable. You mentioned highest scoring fantasy 66 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 4: game of any quarterback, almost all on in the fourth 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: quarter Giants and by the way, anybody with survivor entries 68 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 4: and we all needed the Giants to come up big there, 69 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: and of course they didn't. That was frustrating the decision 70 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 4: that nobody's talking about in that game, Brian Damole made 71 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: a lot of dumb, dumb decisions. How about this one, 72 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: He's up nineteen zero, he went for two? 73 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, who does that? 74 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: Who does that? You're taking point? You're up nineteen points. 75 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: You're like, no, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm 76 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: gonna erase some points from the board. Now, granted, Giants 77 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: kicker wasn't good, but still I'd say that was a 78 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: that was a head scratcher nobody's talking about in the 79 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: aftermath here. So for Vowen, Nicks Nord No here comes Dallas. 80 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: Think about how implausibly hard it is to be this 81 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: bad of a defense to Dallas. They are allowing the 82 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 4: most of all of these categories passing yards, passing touchdowns, 83 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 4: opposing quarterback rushes, opposing quarterback rushing yards, and opposing quarterback 84 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: rushing touchdowns. One defense dead last in all those categories. 85 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: No, it's absolutely brutal, and it's not getting any better 86 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: at this stage of the season. You know, you had 87 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 3: something popping in my head. So I'm loving bo Nicks 88 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 3: this weekend, but I'm curious what your thoughts are on 89 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: CD Lamb's return. Did that impact George Pickens at all? 90 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: Maybe you have no opinion on it. I'm just thinking 91 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: with CD it was. I mean they put forty four 92 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 3: on the Commanders last week. Ferguson, he's kind of finding 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: his way via the red zone more so than other areas. 94 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: But five or six tds thus far for the tight end. 95 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: But CD rolls back in immediately becomes the featured show. 96 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: How much does that impact George Pickens, who is kind 97 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: of getting some momentum there with Dak Prescott. 98 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 4: You know, not a lot, honestly. I mean Pickens still 99 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: got a ton of usage in that game. He was 100 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 4: on the field for ninety seven percent of the passing plays. 101 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 4: Pickens was targeted on twenty percent of the plays. So 102 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 4: you know, he's still you know, he remains evolved, and 103 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: really it's a good one two punch. We like the 104 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 4: signing or the trade when that happened. See, Lamb is 105 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 4: an intermediary receiver. What Pickens does is he gives you 106 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: these long downfield plays against smaller, diminutive cornerbacks. You know 107 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: what'll step about that here That ends up giving him 108 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: this this big size and contested catch advantage and I 109 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: think they're going to keep using them that way. Pickens 110 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: retains a lot of a lot of good value this week, 111 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 4: and you know this is going to be now for 112 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: these guys. Pickens is a lot trickier this week because 113 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: he's got Denver right and he's going to go up 114 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 4: against Ryley Moss and uh and Patricks or Tan that 115 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 4: is that is a really really tricky spot. And votes 116 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: for Lamb and Pickens, but kind of have to start 117 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: him because they're really good players. But it's a tough spot. 118 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 4: Broncos have given up one touchdown to wide receivers this year. 119 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: That's it. 120 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: Well, maybe stay away if you have the choice, maybe 121 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 3: go a different route. Hey, you know it pains me 122 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: to talk about division rivals in a positive light. The 123 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: Chicago Bears have run four in a row and Ben Johnson, 124 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: new head coach, still to you know, he tore down 125 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams to the studs as he put it over 126 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: the summer, and he's rebuilding this whole thing. Well, if 127 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: they do it the way Ben Johnson wants to do it, 128 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: that means they're going to do it like we saw 129 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: him do it in Detroit, which means they're going to 130 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: run the hell out of the ball. They went for 131 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: two hundred plus on the Saints, and Saints are an 132 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: awful team, so they have it's a fair fair game 133 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: to do it at home. But is this is this 134 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: tandem of not just DeAndre Swift who found his legs, 135 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 3: but but now this Kyle mnung guy. 136 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: The name's fun to say. 137 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 3: Is it fun to start mister mcnung guy and or 138 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 3: Swift in fantasy leagues? 139 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: Moving forward with Ben Johnson's offense, Yeah, I. 140 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: Think he's found the Bears version of Jamiir Gibbs and 141 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: David Montgomery. Now, I'll note that Swift has got a 142 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: grond injury at the moment, which means Kyle Manungui might 143 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 4: be even more valuable coming into this game. But last week, man, 144 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: it really did look like Gibbs and Montgomery, well, the 145 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: way they were using Swift and Manunguy and manung Guy 146 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 4: being the David Montgomery. He's the hammer. 147 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 5: He is a big kid. 148 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: He's more of a straight ahead runner. He was breaking tackles. 149 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: He had fifteen touches last week. That is a huge 150 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: uptick for Kyle Mnunguy from what we what we'd seen 151 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: in the past. He posted a career high thirty nine 152 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: percent rush share in that game. And granted it was 153 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: the Saints, they got ahead early and then it was 154 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: a huge regression for Spencer Rattler, who had played actually 155 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 4: pretty good ball most of the season and he was 156 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 4: just terrible last week. So you know, it kind of 157 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: everything just sort of lined up for maybe the running 158 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: game here. But you could see you could see a 159 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 4: lot of shades of the Lions with Ben Johnson and 160 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: those Bears last week. And I think they're going to 161 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: be a lot of games where they're going to try 162 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 4: to keep that that's same sort of approach going here. 163 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: So kallem Ungy already picked up in most fantasy leagues, 164 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: but if not yours, be sure to go get them. 165 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and and they're against they're against the Ravens this week. 166 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: I don't know what Lamar's status is. I was kind 167 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: of seeing some bits leading to the idea that he 168 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: could return. I think he was limited in practiced, so 169 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: that bears mentioning and watching as you get into the weekend. 170 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: But that Ravens defense, man, I mean, if it feels 171 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: like if you can find a big timer on any 172 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: team facing the Ravens, right now, you just start them 173 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: without even thinking twice. 174 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 4: Right, Well, mostly yes, But I'll say this, the reason 175 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 4: the Ravens were basically the worst defense in the league 176 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: threw up and up and up until this point, was 177 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 4: because they had so many injured players, and especially in 178 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: their secondary. But coming out of the by, they're getting 179 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: all the secondaries coming back, and they do, they will 180 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: be missing one key one key player non d Matabuke 181 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 4: is still out for their defense. You think you're gonna 182 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: be able to run on the Ravens a little bit, 183 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: But this is a defense. It's going to get better, 184 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: and unfortunately for the Vikings. You know, we've got the 185 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 4: We've got the Ravens week eleven, wee ten. You know, 186 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: I think they're going to be fully healthy and ready 187 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 4: to roll at that stage and week ten against the Vikings, 188 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: so I think it feels like a return to health 189 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: here makes the Ravens back to being the dangerous team 190 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 4: that nobody wanted to face. 191 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: Paul Charchie and joining us from his nuke proof bunker 192 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: in Utah. 193 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 5: I saw this. 194 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: You kind of somebody would. 195 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 4: Bother nuk in southern Utah. 196 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: You still point, No, that's a that's a very good point. 197 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: It's picturesque. We want to maintain the beauty of Southern Utah. 198 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 5: I saw this. 199 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: You always put like some notes and some bullets together, 200 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 3: and this just kind of amused me. Not that I 201 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: have anything against them. I just want the Saints to 202 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: lose every game ever, and it's fun watching them. Falter, 203 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: It's fun watching Spencer Rattler regress. As you mentioned, is 204 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: Alvin Kamara is is he as you might put him? 205 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: Is he cooked right now? Charge from a fantasy standpoint. 206 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not pounding nails into his coffin, but he 207 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 4: does not look like the same guy. Let me give 208 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 4: you some stats on Alvin Kamara to back it up, 209 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: and you can just use eye test. I mean, he doesn't. 210 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 4: He doesn't. He doesn't look the same. He has in 211 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 4: top seventy rushing yards this year. He hasn't scored since 212 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: Week one. Over the past five weeks, Kamara barely averaging 213 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 4: three yards per carry. He ranks twenty ninth in yards 214 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: after contact, and also disappointing for one of the great 215 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 4: dual threat runners. Yep, he's averaging eighteen receiving yards per game. 216 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 5: This year. That's it. 217 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: So you know I'm not saying Alvin Kamara is never 218 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: gonna have another good game, and his next, by the way, 219 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 4: his next, his upcoming schedule for like the next month 220 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 4: is really hard too. But I don't like what I'm 221 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 4: seeing now. Kendrey Miller was the back of it, but 222 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 4: just towards acl he's out the guy the fantasy pivot 223 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 4: here behind Camara, he continues to languish this much and 224 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 4: the many struggles. It's Devin Neal, the Kansas rookie who 225 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: he's got amazing footwork. He's got these little choppy steps 226 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: that he takes. He makes people miss. He can catch 227 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 4: Devin Neil. You're in a big enough league. If Camara 228 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 4: either continues to struggle, gets hurt at age thirty, or 229 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 4: is a trade. He says he doesn't want to be traded, 230 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: but that doesn't mean you won't be traded if you want. 231 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: You know, if the Saints decided to trade him at 232 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 4: the deadline, which is coming up soon, any of those 233 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 4: things happened, Devin Neil would suddenly be thrust into a 234 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 4: starter's role for the Saints. 235 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 2: Hey. You know. 236 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: Similarly, we saw McCaffrey having some issues specifically running the 237 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: ball and with all those injuries, but then he just 238 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: blew up against the Falcons. I mean, could you see 239 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: a point where I mean, the Spencer Rattler thing has 240 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: an expiration date, certainly, but doesn't it seem just like 241 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 3: instinctive that if you have somebody like Alvin Kamara on 242 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: your team and you're trying to just get some level 243 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 3: of competency out of the QB spot, that'd be. 244 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: Your guy with six seven targets within a game. It 245 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: didn't happen, but we did. 246 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: We did see McCaffrey kind of rise from the depths 247 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: and just take over that game the other night against 248 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: the Falcons. 249 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, two hundred yards total and his first really good 250 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: rushing game of the whole year. And Christian McCaffrey hadn't 251 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: topped fifty seven yards in any game prior to the 252 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: Falcons game. And the Falcons are a good defense. It 253 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 4: was a herculean effort by him in his defensive line 254 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 4: to get going like that. I think the big question 255 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 4: on Christian McCaffrey, No, yeah, do you trade him right now? 256 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: Right so here he is one of the oldest, you 257 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: know the history of soft tissue injuries, one of the 258 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: oldest starting running backs in the league. He's the heaviest 259 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,599 Speaker 4: used running back in the league by a mile. So 260 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 4: it's not like Kyle Shanahan is like easing him in. No, 261 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: he's got the most touches of any running back in 262 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 4: the league, and you just wonder, as good as he's 263 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: been through the air, especially where he's just been a 264 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 4: dynamo and just powering teams with PPR points, if the 265 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 4: smart thing to do isn't to sell high. I'm Christian 266 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 4: McCaffrey now, while there's no concern of injury, just knowing 267 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: odds are one's coming at some point, and you can 268 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 4: kind of name your price on Christian McCaffrey right now. 269 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 5: I don't know. 270 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 4: I mean it's it'd be it'd be a super ballsy move. 271 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: I mean, you drafted him knowing that there was a 272 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 4: lot of risk involved. You've gotten seven great games out 273 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 4: of him. Maybe Nordo Christian McCaffrey, this is the time 274 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: to move him. 275 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 5: It would be. 276 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: It'd be ballsy, but you could do it. 277 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: Hey, I got this text in and I actually have 278 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 3: him on one of my teams and he's kind of 279 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 3: annoying me, and I keep waiting around for this thing 280 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: to work. But the late round draft pick guy from 281 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 3: the Commander's krossky Merritt. And I think Jayden Daniels might 282 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: be out this game. I mean is he Is he 283 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 3: ever just going to find his way to to actually? 284 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: And is the text points take advantage of his carries? 285 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: They keep giving them all these opportunity of these whether 286 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: it's fumbles or it's just just inefficiency in the run. 287 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: Like I need a blow up game. 288 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: I at least brand texting in we need a blow 289 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 3: up game from krossky Merrit like our lives depend on it. 290 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 5: I do doo. 291 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 4: I've got him in a couple of gayeteen leagues. I 292 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 4: could really use Krosskey Mayriort for the big game. I 293 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 4: don't know that one's coming. Unfortunately against the Chiefs run 294 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 4: defense that has struggled earlier in the year, but it's 295 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: gotten a lot better. It's the Monday night game and 296 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 4: the Chiefs of the My worry here is Patrick Mahomes 297 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 4: is going to go off on this defense that's really struggling. 298 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: They're watching defenses look terrible. They've got a couple of 299 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 4: key injuries that have made things worse for them. And 300 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: here comes Rashid Rice, who looks great, Xavier Worthy looks great, 301 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 4: Travis Kelce and all the other weapons. My worry for 302 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 4: Jacoy krossky Merit is game script is going to flip 303 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 4: on him. Marcus Mariota is going to be the starting quarterback. Yep, 304 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: They're they're gonna They're just not going to be able 305 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 4: to give krossky Merrit more than like a dozen carries, 306 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: and he's you know, I don't know that he can 307 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: be special on those against a really good run defense, 308 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 4: So I don't I don't like this matchup. I'm afraid, 309 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 4: and I'm not very optimistic for a big game for 310 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: Jacory Krofsky Meretza. 311 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: All Right, one more guy. 312 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: Since everyone cares about my fantasy team, I actually do 313 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: have Nico Collins on one of my squads, and I 314 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: believe he got a concussion, so so he might so 315 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: he's probably not going to be in the mix. 316 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: I just kind of a combination of fantasy and reality. 317 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: First of all, I think they still have the two 318 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: rookies Jalen Noel and Jaden Higgins, Xavier Hutchinson and to 319 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: make but Christian Kirk I believe is hurt, like they 320 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: just seeing c. J. Stroud year three now it hasn't 321 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 3: been good. The team's losing their may his main target. 322 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: Kind of that conversation with Stroud just need you know 323 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: whether it was Tank Dell and all those injuries Stefon 324 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: Diggs with the ACL a year ago, Nico, I think 325 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 3: hurt his hammy or something a year ago. It's just 326 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: kind of disastrous with the Texans offense right now, where 327 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: Demiko Ryans is asking, you know, being asked about the 328 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: coordinator future and the job and all that, Like where 329 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: am I at if I'm a Nico Collins guy and 330 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: I'm just kind of sifting through the ashes here. 331 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: You know, we've talked a lot about some of the 332 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 4: bad teams in this league, like the Jets are really bad, 333 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 4: the Dolphins are really bad. Tennessee's really bad, Los Angeles 334 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: or Las Vegas really bad. Houston might be in this 335 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: conversation now. Their defense is good, and their defense is 336 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 4: gonna win a few games. This offense is terrible and 337 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: most of the blame falls on the offensive line. They're 338 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 4: twenty ninth and pass block win right, They're twenty eighth 339 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: in run block win right. And here's the thing that's 340 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: so stupid about this Houston GM. Nick Cassario gets a 341 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 4: historic rookie season from CJ. Stroud and then for two 342 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: seasons doesn't do anything to protect him. I mean, the 343 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 4: first thing you should do when you get a franchise 344 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 4: quarterback is you should build the offensive line around that kid, 345 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 4: at the expense everything else. And again to the credit, 346 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: they've got a good defense, but you know you're trading 347 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 4: away Larmie Tunzel, who wasn't great and he was overpaid, 348 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 4: but at least he was confident. This whole offensive line 349 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 4: is just terrible. They can't get anything going. Nick Chubb, 350 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 4: what he marks, they ranked dead last and yards after 351 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 4: contact as a team. You mentioned Christian Kirk constantly urking. 352 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 4: You know why they traded for him is a huge 353 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 4: question mark. And now Nico Collins has got a concussion. 354 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 4: I just this Houston team has gotten some stake of 355 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: death on them, and I don't know that they're going 356 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 4: to be winning many games the rest of the way out. 357 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: Hey, thanks, thanks for everything that you do. Can't wait 358 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: to hear you on the pregame tonight. Mix in the 359 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: Purple of course at so far and we'll chat with 360 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: you again next week. 361 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: All right, sounds good? Talk you latter, Hey, thank you. 362 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: That's Paul Charchie and at Paul Charchi and va X. 363 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: He's taken us to charge with some fantasy opinions again 364 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 3: Vikings heavy conversation with Charts as he joins the Vikings 365 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 3: pregame show, which which is actually going to be kind 366 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: of cool here as Mike Mussman muss He's going to 367 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: be doing the pregame show at Buffalo Wild Wings Savage tonight. 368 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: It's an evening feast at b dub Savage starting at 369 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: five pm. The Charts is going to be a big 370 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: part of that. He's going to offer up, you know, 371 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: some some big spot Vikings opinions. Carson in the the mix, 372 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 3: So how does that, Matt, you know, what does that 373 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: matter to Justin Jefferson. We've seen that connection. How about 374 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 3: Jordan Addison? How about some accurate passes so you find 375 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 3: Addison in the end zone instead of having to make 376 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: circus catches on the sideline. All part of fantasy meeting reality. 377 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: As the Purple hope to beat the Chargers and improve 378 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 3: to four and three. And that's where we'll start again 379 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 3: next with Alex Lewis of the Athletic joining us from 380 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: Los Angeles. It's a Vikings game day on the fan 381 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: with a cash thing right in the mix as well, Right, Brett. 382 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 6: That's right, the cash thing the fan of two men 383 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 6: in a junk chuck want to give you a shot 384 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 6: to win Bonus bucks the National cash contest at a 385 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 6: cafan dot com keyword deposit, keyword deposit, cafan dot com 386 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 6: keyword department. 387 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: Well, hot chocolate. On a chilly Thursday morning, it's Nordo 388 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 3: in for Pa. You heard from Pa. They're in the 389 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: ten am hour. Jumped out to l to chat with 390 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 3: him get his thoughts on things. Of course, Ben Lieber 391 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: in the mixed last hour as well, but now via 392 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: The Athletic. No Friday feast at a bus at least 393 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: in the morning this week, but we wanted to get 394 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 3: his opinions on tonight's festivities. 395 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: Vikings at the Chargers at so Fi. 396 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: Alec Lewis at Alec Underscore Lewis via x Rights for 397 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 3: the Athletic. 398 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 5: What's up, brother, I'm sitting on the patio outside under 399 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 5: the sun seventy degrees and now probably making everybody jealous, 400 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 5: and I apologize. 401 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: That sounds perfect. 402 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 3: I appreciate you giving me time working through the time 403 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 3: change and everything associated. It didn't want to I know 404 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: it's going to be a long day for you, so 405 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: I didn't want to get you up too early. News 406 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 3: kind of shocking me yesterday as we were texting trying 407 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 3: to find some time when you could join the Christian 408 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: Jari saw suddenly there's like some knee pain and such 409 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: after going the distance against the Eagles and it's a 410 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 3: short week and now the left tackle's questionable. 411 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 5: What's up with that? Been a Uh, it's been a 412 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 5: topsy turvy ride for Christian darrisaw really in his return 413 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 5: throughout this entire year, and you know that. Folks listening 414 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 5: to this know that. But yeah, that was unexpected for me. 415 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 5: I will say we were in the locker room Tuesday 416 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 5: for an access period and Christian came in. Uh. There 417 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 5: are a couple of reporters who went up to him 418 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 5: to talk I think, just to like preview the game, 419 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 5: and then he's like, I can I gotta go get treatment. 420 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 5: Usually he's not one not to speak, so it was 421 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 5: kind of a I just thought it was interesting and 422 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 5: then obviously you see that surface yesterday. But I I 423 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 5: mean similar to Brian O'Neill before, you know, in the 424 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 5: lead up to tonight's game, and I I really from 425 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 5: what it sounds like, I mean, I'll be there early 426 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 5: and these two guys probably be on the field working 427 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 5: out and see I think at that point the designation 428 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 5: will be made. But yeah, it's the idea of potentially 429 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 5: transitioning from Christian DearS and Brian O'Neil to Justin's school 430 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 5: and Walter Rouse in a game that is obviously necessary 431 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 5: tonight is one that should give you concern, gives me concern, 432 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 5: and what obviously give people internally concerned as well. 433 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: So for those of us that don't do we don't 434 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: go to the practices, we aren't reporting on the team, 435 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: you know, is what can they do? Because you think 436 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 3: about a changing midstream right like you if you didn't know, 437 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: we saw it earlier this year. And just how discombobulated 438 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: things get when you lose a Brian O'Neill in the game, 439 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: When Ryan Kelly gets a concussion in the game and 440 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: you're throwing guys into spots after practicing at a completely 441 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: different one all week, how things can get weird in 442 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: a walk through kind of a you know, let's recover 443 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 3: mostly on a short week into a Thursday night game, Like, 444 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: how much can they really work with this? And you know, 445 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: whether it's Jurgins or it's Brandell at center. If it's Jurgins, 446 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 3: do you move Brandell into a spot? 447 00:21:59,760 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: Verse? 448 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: This is a Walter Rouse Like how much can you 449 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 3: really prepare and play around with these things when you 450 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 3: get hit with tenuous injury situations so close to a game? 451 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the nature of how this 452 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 5: season has gone, if anything, Kevin O'Connor on this staff, 453 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 5: if they've learned anything, not that they already hadn't learned it, 454 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 5: but it's I mean, you just kind of have to 455 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 5: be ready to adapt in any capacity. And that's both 456 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 5: like during this week, which is a short week anyway, 457 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 5: I mean, there was most of the practice this week 458 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 5: was much lighter. Obviously there were a couple walkthroughs on Tuesday, 459 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 5: and so you're already dealing with lack of on field 460 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 5: reps and time and then you know, depending on what 461 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 5: they navigate tonight specifically in game, I mean, you know, 462 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 5: it's just in coming upon Kevin O'Connor on this staff 463 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 5: to be able to adapt. And I think so much 464 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 5: of this you know leads you to think that, like 465 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 5: they better in through this game tonight against this Chargers 466 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 5: defense with a ton of quick game. And one of 467 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 5: the kind of advantageous spots against this defense is they 468 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 5: play a lot of off coverage. Their cornerbacks give you 469 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 5: a lot of space. And so the idea of Carson, 470 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 5: I mean, one of the things that he has effectively 471 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 5: done as the quarterback is when there has been space 472 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 5: on a guy like Jordan Addison, he will just take 473 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 5: that eight yard quick out or ten yard quick out 474 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 5: and move the chains. And so I, I like, I 475 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 5: wouldn't be surprised if that is a lot of the 476 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 5: scheme tonight, just to counteract whatever you know, configurations of 477 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 5: the offensive line you're gonna see. And then that would 478 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 5: lead you to kind of, you know, matriculate the ball 479 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 5: up the field, find yourself in the red zone and 480 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 5: and make magic happen in the red zone in a 481 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 5: way that they were not able to last Sunday. 482 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: Obviously, the if. 483 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: You had to bet one hundred dollars of your athletic 484 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 3: earned cash, would you would you put it on Aaron 485 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: Jones playing tonight or Aaron Jones not playing tonight? 486 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: As his practice window opened up. 487 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 5: Was the FBI director listening, Because I mean it seems 488 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 5: it seems like something I gotta be mindful of, right, 489 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 5: thank you. But I would say, if I had to 490 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 5: bet it, I would bet that that that he is in. 491 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 5: I mean, it's also one of those you know, sneaky 492 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 5: under the radar me being a nerd type aspect of 493 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 5: this game. But CJ. Ham is not playing, and CJ. 494 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 5: Hamm has played the last two games and has played 495 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 5: a big role in past protection, specifically on third down, 496 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 5: and so like I mean, Jordan Mason has not been 497 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: phenomenal in past protection. They Scott is also limited or 498 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 5: it is questionable, and you don't really trust him aton 499 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 5: in pass protection. So you kind of feel like Aaron 500 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 5: Jones is necessary for that spot. And I say that 501 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 5: in tandem with then you're putting him back there to 502 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 5: take hits, you know, coming directly off of this handstring injury. 503 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 5: So to go back to the initial question, Yeah, if 504 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 5: I had to place the wager, I'd say that he 505 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 5: is in. But I am I just bring up the 506 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 5: pass protection because I'm mindful of it tonight against a 507 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 5: team that when they blit they are effective. I mean 508 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 5: they run a lot of simulated pressures. They'll bring the 509 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 5: off ball linebacker and drop a player from the defensive line, 510 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 5: and that's what got Carson Wentz last week against Philly, 511 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 5: And so you just got to be you know, as 512 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 5: much as this Chargers defense has seemed in disarray a 513 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 5: little bit like they can get you, they can track you, 514 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 5: So you really have to be dialed on a snap 515 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 5: and basis. 516 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 3: Last week, Alec it was operations stop Saquon and they 517 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 3: did that two point four Carrie, I think less, maybe 518 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: fifty ish yards as. 519 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: A team the Eagles a week ago. So we dig that. 520 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: But tonight we're going against a team that I don't I'm. 521 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: Not even familiar with their running backs, to be honest 522 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 3: with you, whether it's Vidal and there's another cat they 523 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 3: might be elevating. Naim Hines more of a return special 524 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 3: teams guy, former Cult and maybe he's been somewhere else 525 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: Titan maybe as well, But all the same, to that end, 526 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 3: this team and justin Herbert, they love to stretch the 527 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,239 Speaker 3: field in some ways the way that the Eagles got 528 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: us with Jalen Hurts and buying himself extra time and 529 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: finding downfield opportunities. 530 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: What do we think about on a short week? 531 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: Flores kind of looking back at that Eagles tape and like, 532 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: all right, the guy that leads the league in passing 533 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 3: yards is up next. I can't let this happen two 534 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 3: games in a row. What are your thoughts on it? 535 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? This game to me is can you apply pressure 536 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 5: to Justin Herbert? And can you contain him? And if 537 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 5: you can do those two things, you give yourself the 538 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 5: best chance. Now, I you know, the Herbert is fascinating, 539 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 5: Like there are a lot of people who it's like, 540 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 5: you can't win the Ben game. He's so overrated. He's 541 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 5: like the film nerd pers like that. They the quarterback 542 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 5: the film nerds love. All I can tell you is 543 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 5: I watched this cold scame that they played last week, 544 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 5: and the game script was a disaster for the Chargers. 545 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 5: I mean, they trailed early and it just became a 546 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 5: Herbert fest, and he was doing some absurd things, I mean, 547 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 5: like unbelievable evading of pass rushers, like scrambling out of 548 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 5: the pocket, making throws down field, you know, opposite half 549 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 5: throws that you just like, very few guys have the 550 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 5: velocity in their arms to even attempt. So I I mean, 551 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 5: for me, like, there's nothing about this guy that you 552 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 5: can take lightly. And the most underrated aspect of his 553 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 5: play is his strength in the pocket. Like you know, 554 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 5: if you're Dallas Turner, if you're Jonathan Garnard and you're 555 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 5: beating the Chargers tackles tonight, like it is not an 556 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 5: easy task to then corral Justin Herbert in the pocket. 557 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 5: And so I mean that to me is that is 558 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 5: really where this game is gonna gonna lie and probably 559 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 5: where this game will hinge is can they get to 560 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 5: Justin Herbert and then and they contain him because if 561 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 5: you don't get to him, he has the processing ability 562 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 5: to pick you apart. And they have receivers like Keenan 563 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 5: Allen and Lad McConkie who will find open spaces in 564 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 5: the zone coverages that the Viking's run and if you 565 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 5: do get to him and he does, of aide, we 566 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 5: saw last week what can happen down the field. 567 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you did it a day or two ago. 568 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: I believe you kind of wrote a piece on Dallas Turner. 569 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: And I was a little hard on Dallas after the 570 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 3: Eagles game because I just felt like there were at 571 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 3: least a handful of opportunities in Lane Johnson's high end. 572 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 3: I get it, but it just felt like there was 573 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: that initial push, the initial attempt, and then he was 574 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 3: just kind of done for that play and he was 575 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: completely locked out by Lane Johnson. So via your piece 576 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: and just kind of via your prep for this game. 577 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: Am I being too hard on Dallas when I just 578 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: see him being such a non factor for so much 579 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: of these games? Or does he potentially fare a little 580 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: bit better tonight whether or not the Joe Altz or 581 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 3: the Trey Pipkins of the world play against these Chargers. 582 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, he definitely fares better than because Lane Johnson is 583 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame player. But but I mean, you know, 584 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 5: the Dallas Turner conversation is really this, like he's been solid. 585 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 5: He set the edge when he's had to set the 586 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 5: edge for the most part, especially of late, you know, 587 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 5: more recently than the Falcons game early in the year, 588 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 5: he's dropped in the coverage and not looked absolutely lost. 589 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 5: He's you know, long armed the tackle kind of back 590 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 5: into the pocket and and and you know, muddied it 591 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 5: off a little bit. But like I mean, the conversation 592 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 5: and I and Dallas is young, and he didn't choose 593 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 5: where he was picked, but just the fact and how 594 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 5: he was picked with the amount of draft capital. But 595 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 5: the fact of the matter is when you trade uhh, 596 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 5: the accumulation of draft capital for a guy like they 597 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 5: did for Dallas Turner, like it just doesn't feel like 598 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 5: solid setting the edge and all of that is a 599 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 5: enough And then the other aspect is like I've probably 600 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 5: heard you talk about I've heard a lot of people 601 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 5: it's like, man, we need Van ginkleback. If there is 602 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 5: that much of a feeling and that much of a 603 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 5: seemingly like absence when you when Dallas Turner is now 604 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 5: acquiring most of the snash, I mean, for me, that 605 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 5: is telling. And again it's not to put any cap 606 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 5: on what he's ultimately going to be as a player, 607 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 5: but this team needs cast rush right now because on 608 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 5: the interior, while Johnathan Allen has given you a little 609 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 5: bit and Jalen Jalen Redman's given you some, and Levi 610 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 5: Drake a little bit, I mean, you're just not given 611 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 5: much from getting much from Javon Hargrave, and opposing offenses 612 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 5: are chipping Johnathan Gernard because they know he is an 613 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 5: immense factor. So you just need Dallas Turner, you know, 614 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 5: to apply pressure. And it really feels like watching the 615 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 5: film Nordo, like he's really got one, you know, tool 616 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 5: in his tool belt and it is just to use 617 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 5: his really long arms in his athleticism to try to 618 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 5: like push the tackle back. There are very like especially 619 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 5: in the Eagles game, there are very few, you know, 620 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 5: sequences on tape where you're seeing any combinations from a 621 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 5: pass rush perspective off that, and I mean that it's 622 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 5: just I mean again, it's youth, it's development and all that, 623 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 5: but I mean at some point when you're picked with 624 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 5: the amount of draft you know, with the with the 625 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 5: capital that they traded to acquire him like that, it 626 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 5: just doesn't really feel like enough, especially when two guys 627 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 5: were picked behind them and Jared versu Andon Mitchell, who 628 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 5: were like immediate studs. 629 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, how about Jared Verse. 630 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 3: I saw something he might have more pressures on the 631 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 3: quarterback in twenty twenty five than like. 632 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: Half of our defensive front. 633 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: It's just what he's doing from last season and what 634 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 3: he's doing now is incredible. Now to Keenan Allen, you 635 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: mentioned him with Lad McCaughey, I mean, is is he 636 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: going to have another career type game against US tonight. 637 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: Like he did two years ago? I think he was 638 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: throwing touchdowns. 639 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 3: He had a game against US when he was with 640 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: the Bears, and that little stint before returning to LA 641 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 3: and the Bolts like man's up and Keenan Allen you 642 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: mentioned lad. I just that Quentin Johnston. They've figured out 643 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 3: how to get loose with him a little bit. I mean, 644 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: I just there there's a I don't want to say 645 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: fear into the game. I'm just I'm waiting for the 646 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 3: shoe to drop on one of those big moments by 647 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: it by their weapons. 648 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 5: Well, what about the rookie tight end Rondez gats In 649 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 5: the second Bitch round pick from Syracuse has emerged. And 650 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 5: if you're playing fantasy and you haven't heard this guy, 651 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 5: then you haven't been checking your waiver wire quick enough. 652 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 5: I mean, this guy had multiple explosive catches last week 653 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 5: against the Colts, and yeah, I mean this combination of weapons, 654 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 5: like entering the season, it did feel you know, if 655 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 5: you if you monitor the league, some of the conversations 656 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 5: like you know, the Chargers need more weapons and they 657 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 5: have a ton at their disposal. But Keenan Allen, I 658 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 5: mean he's just crafty and he's gonna find open space. 659 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 5: And the Vikings the way this defense plays while while 660 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 5: it is, can be menacing, and yes, they disguise a 661 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 5: ton like typically if there is enough time, there is 662 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 5: space to be found. And so I mean, you know 663 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 5: you asked the question like is the in for another 664 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 5: big game? I mean I would say yes unless they 665 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 5: prove to me that they have, you know, an ability 666 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 5: to to to you know, limit a guy like him, 667 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 5: and I just if you get him free access off 668 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage and justin Herbert you know, can 669 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 5: process it and play foot game the way that he's 670 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 5: shown capability of for a long time, then I don't 671 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 5: know why it wouldn't just be seven yard chunks. To 672 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 5: Keenan Allen, I mean that's where like I mean, I 673 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 5: said it earlier with the Vikings offense, but like this 674 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 5: does feel to me like it could end up being 675 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 5: just like a red zone game and a turnover game. 676 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 5: And I mean that's where this Vikings defense is built, 677 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 5: with it in the in the with the idea that 678 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 5: they would generate takeaways and and they have not done 679 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 5: that at a level remotely close to where they want to, 680 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 5: not close to last year, and you feel that and 681 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 5: it makes kind of everything more difficult. 682 00:33:59,360 --> 00:33:59,479 Speaker 4: Uh. 683 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: Time one or two more here alec Lewis of the 684 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 3: Athletic I got a text message Ryan in Michigan. 685 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: He quotes you. 686 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 3: He is in Dallas Turner. He dropped into coverage and 687 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 3: didn't look completely lost. Ladies and gentlemen, you're twenty twenty 688 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 3: five Minnesota Vikings. 689 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 5: No, I mean, and now I don't say that, like 690 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 5: that's funny and Ryan, it's a stute but like, but 691 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 5: I don't say that. I mean, he's an edge rusher. 692 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 5: You know, in college he's mostly a passer or so, 693 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 5: and he did have the interception last year in Seattle, 694 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 5: so he's shown an ability to do that. The kind 695 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 5: of the issue is, like this defense in a lot 696 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 5: of ways relied heavily on Adrew vang Ekle to play 697 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 5: clean up on a lot of things and to communicate 698 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 5: at the line of scrimmage from a like pass rush 699 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 5: plan perspective. And so now you're throwing in a guy 700 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 5: in Dallas Turner who just doesn't you know, from an 701 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 5: aptitude stand he doesn't have the experience of an asy 702 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 5: van eagle and I think you feel that in both 703 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 5: phases against the run in the pass. But it's a 704 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 5: good yeah. I mean I didn't mean it like that, 705 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 5: but no, it's all good. 706 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: We gotta have fun with this thing. 707 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 3: Man. It's a weird ass three and three team. And 708 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: I'll ask you this, you know the ups and downs 709 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 3: of this whole thing. Any confidence in the idea that 710 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: that Carson finds finds a little bit more accuracy in 711 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 3: this one. Guys were open and explosives were potentially missed, 712 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 3: we have inexplicable intentional grounding penalties, all of those things. 713 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 3: But but just in the end, at a base level, 714 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 3: Carson kind of leveling out four days after what we 715 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 3: saw against Philly. 716 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 5: I mean, not particularly, I just kind of feel like, 717 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 5: for one thing, I mean, for one thing, And I 718 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 5: want to make this a bundally clear and I've written 719 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 5: this and I've said it on my own podcast, but 720 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 5: like this shoulder injury to his non throwing shoulder that 721 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 5: he is dealing with, yep, I'm not sure how many 722 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 5: guys in the league would play through what he's playing through. 723 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 5: And so part of it is like he's compromised, so 724 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 5: what I expect him, you know, if he was healthy, Yeah, 725 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 5: I think I'd have more reason, but that's just the 726 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 5: nature of it. And then person wins. And I said 727 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 5: this with you guys, like last Friday on the Friday 728 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 5: Football Feast, when he has a spot on the field 729 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 5: when he catches the snat and his eyes go to 730 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 5: a certain spot of the field, if he's throwing right 731 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 5: then then it usually can be pretty fine. But if 732 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 5: those eyes have to move or shift and he has 733 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 5: to like there was the negative six yard screen pass 734 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 5: that he threw backwards out of bounds, that was because 735 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 5: his eyes were to the right. Then he had to 736 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 5: go all the way back to the left and it 737 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 5: just it just unraveled. And so like the one thing 738 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 5: I will say is again, this Chargers defense gives you 739 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 5: all give the receivers or they have this season a 740 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 5: lot of space off the line of scrimmage and this 741 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 5: and the Chargers eye discipline from a second level, third 742 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,959 Speaker 5: level has not been great. So those things you would 743 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 5: hope would help the Vikings passing game for me more 744 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 5: than anything. And we didn't even talk about it, like 745 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 5: this is a run the football game, especially if you 746 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 5: have the tackles like the Chargers defit. Their run defense 747 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 5: is thirtieth and success rate, and part of the reason 748 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 5: their I discipline it has been bad is because they're 749 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 5: so conscious of stopping the run, and this Vikings offense 750 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 5: for the third straight offseason they talked about prioritizing the 751 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 5: run game. They're running it at a forty percent clip, 752 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 5: which is lower a lower rate than last season when 753 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 5: they had Sam Darnold as their quarterback. So that just 754 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 5: I mean, that's really where my mind begins with this game, 755 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 5: and we got to it last I guess. 756 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 3: No. I love that they're giving up a buck forty 757 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,959 Speaker 3: on the ground a game over their last five five 758 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 3: per carry, five point one per carry, and over the 759 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 3: totality of the season, but the coach has to commit 760 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 3: to it. And while the jury Curry's still out on that. 761 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 3: Thank you for giving me some time on a game 762 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 3: day morning, my friend. Looking forward to following your stuff 763 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 3: via X later tonight and seeing how you sum this 764 00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 3: whole thing up. 765 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: Hopefully we get to you, my friend. 766 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,479 Speaker 5: Indeed, thank you, Nordo. We'll miss you. I mean, look, 767 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 5: Monticello captured a level of energy that I needed at 768 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 5: the time, and so I'll be missing that, but no, 769 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 5: thanks for having me appreciate it as always into the 770 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 5: folks listening, enjoy the game. It's one they need for sure. 771 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: Absolutely, thanks man. 772 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 3: That's Alec Lewis at Alec Underscore Lewis via x covers. 773 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 3: The Vikings for the athletic final segment is next, all right, 774 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 3: Vikings are going to win twenty three seventeen tonight, so 775 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 3: we'll be all good. We'll improve to four and three 776 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 3: and then you can call in fan line and we 777 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 3: can celebrate a little bit and talk about JJ McCarthy 778 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 3: potentially playing next week thanks to Grim opening the show 779 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 3: on the Gophers going for that Pig on Saturday, Pa 780 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 3: liber and Alex joining from La Paul Charchi in the 781 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 3: Fantasy Bid, and of course Brett for producing. If you 782 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 3: want to have some fun tonight, by the way, you 783 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 3: have kind of a dual double feature event. Southsiders go 784 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 3: to Buffalo Wild Wings Savage because Muss is hosting a 785 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 3: Vikings pregame feast at Buffalo Wild Wings and Savage that 786 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 3: starts at five pm. And then if you're hanging out 787 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 3: around downtown or plan on going downtown, Guardsey is at 788 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 3: Gray's Food Hall by Travail. It's I believe behind Target Field. 789 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: What do I mean, I believe. 790 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 3: I was there a couple of weeks ago for the 791 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 3: Cleveland game and it's a sweet spot. They're gonna have 792 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 3: cool specials and a watch party party as it is 793 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 3: at Gray's Food Haul downtown at seven pm with Guardsy 794 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 3: Big Montage coming up next, right, Brett Big Big Montage 795 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 3: for the program, which is around the corner. Have a 796 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,760 Speaker 3: great afternoon, everybody go Vikes. Grum is next on the fan. 797 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: Podcast Today's Paul Allen Show. 798 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 5: We're listening back to a previous show and interviews. 799 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: So I go into the iHeartRadio app, orgfan dot Com