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Speaker 1: I'm Dan Carroll. This is the Wednesday night edition of

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Speaker 1: the Midweek Crisis. Russ Jackson running the Big board in

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Speaker 1: the seven hundred WLW Commands Center. We just heard President

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Speaker 1: and I think he did a lot of good things there,

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Speaker 1: going on for forty seven years. Death to America attacks,

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Speaker 1: only that, but he reminded us of the people that

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Speaker 1: My buddy Jim Fast is going to be here after

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Speaker 1: the news at the bottom of the hour, and we'll

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Speaker 1: what the President had to say tonight. The closest he

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Speaker 1: edition to the Midweek Crisis. I'm Dan Carroll. We are

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Speaker 1: breaking down what Trump had to say in his address

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Speaker 1: my buddy from the Conservative Caucus, Gym Faff and Jim

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Speaker 1: it's great to have you here. I appreciate the time

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Speaker 1: as always, and we'll talk about specifics in a second.

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Speaker 1: But in a general sense, how effective was this speech

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Speaker 2: Well, there were there are a few gaps.

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Speaker 2: But I will say this, there's no doubt based upon

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Speaker 1: All right, Jim, just about a minute and a half

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that the Democrats are getting any

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Speaker 1: You're right about that. She's my god, can you imagine,

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Speaker 4: Thank god?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what a mess, Oh what a mess.

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Speaker 1: Jim Faff, you're the best man. I appreciate the time,

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Speaker 1: very much.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Dan. Good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jim Faff from the Conservative Caucus, and you

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Speaker 1: can just google that and look up that website. Nine

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Speaker 1: and if you want to weigh in on what Trump

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Speaker 1: on till midnight tonight on the Wednesday night edition of

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Speaker 1: Midweek Crisis. Glad to be here, Glad you are here

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Speaker 1: Greg Greg you're on seven hundred WLW. What you got tonight? Hey? Greg?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Greg, come on, Dan, come on, get with the program.

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Speaker 2: Brother.

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Speaker 6: I voted for Trump three times. I believe he won

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Speaker 6: another thing is if we're so independent on the oil

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Speaker 1: the Almighty gives them the wisdom to see the best

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Speaker 1: way through this thing. Our military leaders are acting on

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Speaker 1: behalf of the political leaders that they serve under. They

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Speaker 1: are following order and they are doing the best they can. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I totally missed that that the Pope said that. Absolutely unbelievable. Chris,

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Speaker 1: And what's Jester? What's going on?

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Speaker 10: Man?

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Speaker 1: How you been.

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Speaker 7: Good?

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Speaker 3: Brother?

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Speaker 8: For you?

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Speaker 1: Did you listen to the Trump speech tonight?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? And I guarantee you five seconds afterward, every Democrat

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Speaker 8: on any pop show at a news station.

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Speaker 7: And well that's not true.

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Speaker 8: This isn't true. He didn't say this. He didn't say that.

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Speaker 8: You know, why was the scuy blue today hot from

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Speaker 8: the ground. He's still holding me down? And what's this

458
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Speaker 8: gravity thing? And oh, by the way, Trump didn't say this,

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Speaker 8: he didn't say that. Oh yeah, by the way, a

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Speaker 8: cat rabbit warning it by me on fire? That's wrong.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I guarantee you.

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Speaker 7: They just did.

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Speaker 8: Nothing but break it down. He came out, he was pointing,

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Speaker 8: he was a seat, He got to the point and

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Speaker 8: he ended it.

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Speaker 4: He didn't draw it out.

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Speaker 8: He didn't ask a question, he didn't do any He

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Speaker 8: just told us one was going on, elected it that

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Speaker 8: and what do you you know? And they're gonna say, well,

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Speaker 8: he didn't put a timelin on this. He didn't say this.

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Speaker 7: He didn't.

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Speaker 8: They're just gonna tear it up because he said it,

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Speaker 8: you know, the wrong, hide you brother. He could come

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Speaker 8: out tomorrow with the cure for child and good cancer

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Speaker 8: and they would say it was wrong because he's the

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Speaker 8: one who did it.

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Speaker 1: Well, sure there's gonna there's all in and look that's

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Speaker 1: that is out of the Democrat playbook from decades ago.

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Speaker 1: And I remember them doing this when back when when

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Speaker 1: W was president, and he would make a speech and

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Speaker 1: they would come on and it would be a fine speech,

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Speaker 1: and they would come on and say would say, well,

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Speaker 1: he didn't say this, or he didn't say that, and

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Speaker 1: he didn't say there's something that we thought he should

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Speaker 1: have said. So he's deficient in that and therefore he

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Speaker 1: should be criticized. So yeah, I look for them to

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Speaker 1: do the same thing against Trump, and they they they're

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Speaker 1: so used to attacking him on what comes out of

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Speaker 1: his mouth. They haven't spent a lot a lot of

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Speaker 1: time on what hasn't come out of his mouth. But

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Speaker 1: I think the speech is pretty good tonight, so they'll

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Speaker 1: have to probably go there, go to that it's in

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Speaker 1: the playbook and say, well, he didn't say X, Y

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Speaker 1: and Z, and so therefore he's an idiot.

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Speaker 8: This wasn't even a speech. This was an addressed to

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Speaker 8: the nation. It was an address. There's the difference. He

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Speaker 8: didn't go on any powery thinking about his all just

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Speaker 8: give tongos and how good our military is. And you're

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Speaker 8: damn right, we got to better kick military. We are

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Speaker 8: the it's us and nobody else. And I am happy

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Speaker 8: that he is finally calling out NATO, finally calling out,

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Speaker 8: We've been paying their bills militarily and and policing their

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Speaker 8: part of the world to keep them shafe for so

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Speaker 8: damn long it took him to literally pull their teeth

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Speaker 8: out to start building up their own military, adding more

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Speaker 8: to NATO, adding more to the United Nations do it.

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Speaker 8: But yet they still they want to show up here

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Speaker 8: the food's been delivered. They want to show up where

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Speaker 8: the party has been started. They want to show up

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Speaker 8: before the clean up, you know, they so they can

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Speaker 8: look like they've been a part of this the whole time.

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Speaker 8: And who knows to him for just calling him out

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Speaker 8: and say, you know, we don't need you people, Remember

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Speaker 8: that we don't need you. You need period, find simple

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Speaker 8: wood and would fall, Japan would fall, most of all

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Speaker 8: of Europe would be gone if it was not for

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Speaker 8: us in our basis in those strategic locations period. If

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Speaker 8: you don't know that, then either you haven't been paying

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Speaker 8: attention for the past seventy years. You're literally living in

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Speaker 8: your own little democratic liberal bubble where you know, unless

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Speaker 8: if it comes out of Trump's mouth, it can't be true.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah, blah Marc Rock Marco Rubio said as much

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Speaker 1: the other day. I was listening to him talk about

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Speaker 1: this and he made the exact same point that you did.

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Speaker 9: It's that simple.

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Speaker 8: I mean, without the planet right now would be in chaos.

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Speaker 8: And I'm not trying to say that we're just hubris

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Speaker 8: and being egotistical. No, it's a thout. I'm sorry, but

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Speaker 8: America United States of America is a stabilizing force on

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Speaker 8: this planet. Whether you like it or not, whether you

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Speaker 8: want to be in this country or not, that is

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Speaker 8: a known. If we were gonna pull out all that,

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Speaker 8: it just say, you know what, We're gonna close our

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Speaker 8: bases in Germany, We're gonna close our bases in Western Europe,

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Speaker 8: We're gonna close all these bases in the Middle East,

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Speaker 8: We're gonna close every They would be in such a

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Speaker 8: panic they would not know what to do. I mean,

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Speaker 8: it would literally drive them crazy to and be like, Okay,

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Speaker 8: what now, what happens when South or North Korea decides

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Speaker 8: they want Taiwan? What happens when North Korea decides? You

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Speaker 8: know what, I'm gonna take out South Korea. You know,

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Speaker 8: We're just gonna take it back because you know why

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Speaker 8: America an't protect them anymore. The first people that are

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Speaker 8: gonna be screaming too, and coming and screaming to and

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Speaker 8: say being helping us please, Yeah, we were sorry. We

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Speaker 8: you know, we know, we were walking around with our

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Speaker 8: tails between our legs and all that and trying to

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Speaker 8: be KOI and politically correct. But we really need your

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Speaker 8: help now. And hopefully, if that day does come, our

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Speaker 8: president will look him in the eye and say, no,

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Speaker 8: you're on your own. You had your chance. We've been

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Speaker 8: covering your butts now for five decades, and now you

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Speaker 8: need our help when we decided to leave. No, no, no,

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Speaker 8: You've had plenty of time to build up your military,

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Speaker 8: plenty of time to stabilize your country, plenty of time

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Speaker 8: to stabilize your own governments. You don't need our help anymore.

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Speaker 8: And if you still have him figured it out by now,

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Speaker 8: then you know what, maybe you don't need our help

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Speaker 8: because we're not gonna get you anywhere further than you

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Speaker 8: already are. And so when you see this and I

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Speaker 8: hear him say that, it makes me you know, I

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Speaker 8: don't like the man personally. Yeah, he's an egotistical, he

563
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Speaker 8: has his bravado about him. He's got this, but that's

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Speaker 8: what makes him a good president. He does not have

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Speaker 8: a problem telling people no, which is what is wrong

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Speaker 8: in this country. We got too many yes men and

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Speaker 8: not enough people to say, you know, if that doesn't

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Speaker 8: make any cats, no, we're not going to do that.

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Speaker 8: Oh is that a bad Is that a bad plan? Yes,

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Speaker 8: that's a bad plan. So no, we're not going to

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Speaker 8: do it. I mean, he does not have a problem

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Speaker 8: doing that, and I love that because Gutfell says it best.

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Speaker 8: He has the whole the whole thing that he does

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Speaker 8: on his show. We don't deserve him. But you know what,

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Speaker 8: as true American, those of us who work hard every day,

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Speaker 8: you know, I probably wear my shirt every day that

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Speaker 8: says I work hard every day because thousands on welfare

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Speaker 8: depend on me. That's that simple. For those of us

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Speaker 8: that do that every day in and out, whether you're retired,

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Speaker 8: you've gone back. Those of us that love our country,

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Speaker 8: love our government. We might not agree with our government,

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Speaker 8: but it's still the best one on the planet because

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Speaker 8: we have this great thing called democracy. Those of us

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Speaker 8: who do we deserve this president. We've been waiting for

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Speaker 8: a guy like this for a long time. Because the

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Speaker 8: last five guys excluding Trump didn't do a damn thing.

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Speaker 1: And you don't get to you don't get to claim

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Speaker 1: him on your taxes either. That's a bummer. Wait, yeah, Chris,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the phone call, man. I always appreciate you

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Speaker 1: being out there.

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Speaker 8: Brother, You got it.

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Speaker 1: Good night, All right, there you go. Chris in in

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Speaker 1: Westchester and Russ. What time do I got to get

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Speaker 1: out here? Do I have a like, like a minute

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Speaker 1: and I have less than a minute, so really not

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Speaker 1: enough time. Ken from Mason is there, but not enough

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Speaker 1: time to be affair with him, So Ken, you'll have

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Speaker 1: to You'll have to call back. I always appreciate Ken

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Speaker 1: Firm Mason checking into But we've got to get to

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Speaker 1: a break in news coming up at the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the hour. After that, my buddy Tom King is going

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Speaker 1: to be here. Tom King is the chief counsel of

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Speaker 1: the Pennsylvania GOP and just a great constitutional lawyer. I

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Speaker 1: want to talk with him about what happened at the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court today, and the Supreme Court was having hearings

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Speaker 1: on birthright citizenship and the executive order that Trump put

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Speaker 1: out early on in his administration that is trying to

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Speaker 1: defend the dignity and the meaning of what it means

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Speaker 1: to be an American citizen. And if you just hand

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Speaker 1: out citizenship to anyone who just happens to be born

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Speaker 1: in this country, the citizenship really mean anything at all.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a good way to think about it.

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Speaker 1: Talk with Tom King coming up on that on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the break. It is the Wednesday Night

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Speaker 1: edition of the Midweek Crisis on seven hundred WLWS. It

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Speaker 1: was January twentieth, twenty twenty five, when President Trump issued

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Speaker 1: this executive Order protecting the meaning and value of American Citizenship.

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Speaker 1: The privilege of United States citizenship is a priceless and

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Speaker 1: profound gift. The Fourteenth Amendment states, quote, all persons born

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Speaker 1: or naturalized in the United States, subject to the jurisdiction

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Speaker 1: thereof are citizens of the United States and of the

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Speaker 1: state wherein they reside. But the Fourteenth Amendment has never

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Speaker 1: been interpreted to extend citizenship universally to everyone born in

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Speaker 1: the United States. And that was the issue that was

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Speaker 1: being argued at the Supreme Court earlier today. And when

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Speaker 1: I have issues like this that come up, I always

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Speaker 1: like to turn to my buddy Tom King, who was

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Speaker 1: I believe Tom King is still the chief counsel for

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. And Tom King,

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Speaker 1: it's great to have you back our seven hundred WIW.

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Speaker 11: Thanks Dan, it's always a pleasure to be with you.

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Speaker 1: First time ever as sitting president went to the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court to hear an argument in a case that involves

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Speaker 1: one of the president's actions, and the reporting we just

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Speaker 1: heard on that was that he sat there quietly, may

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Speaker 1: not have made eye contact with any of the judges,

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Speaker 1: but it's history, and I would think even for a

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court judge, it's kind of a big deal to

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Speaker 1: have the have the president out there in the in

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Speaker 1: the audience, I would.

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Speaker 12: Think, so it's historic if nothing else, and it's fascinating

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Speaker 12: that there there is in fact a seat for the

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Speaker 12: president and he's the only president that's ever appeared there

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Speaker 12: as president.

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Speaker 11: So as quite quite a historic day.

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Speaker 1: Did it have Trump written across the back of it?

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Speaker 11: It may have made America great again?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, But that part I just read of the of

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Speaker 1: the Executive Order, to my way of thinking, those few

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Speaker 1: words really summon up if we can't protect the meaning

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Speaker 1: and value of American citizenship, of what use is it

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Speaker 1: to claim to be an American citizen If anyone can

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Speaker 1: step foot in this country give birth to a child,

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Speaker 1: and then you and the whole family and everyone else

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Speaker 1: that are associated with gets to call themselves an American citizen.

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Speaker 12: Well, I agree, and it's certainly the circumstances are different

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Speaker 12: than in some degree some extent than they were in

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Speaker 12: the eighteen sixties when this occurred. You know, this was

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Speaker 12: right after the Civil War, and of course, what the

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Speaker 12: Congress was trying to do, and what the States were

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Speaker 12: trying to do, was to prevent someone from saying that

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Speaker 12: the recently freed slaves were not citizens. And so they

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Speaker 12: made this amendment, the fourteenth Amendment. And the crucial part

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Speaker 12: that the Supreme Court is trying to do is to

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Speaker 12: apply this eighteenth eighteen hundred men to the circumstances of

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Speaker 12: the United States as they exist today. And so that's

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Speaker 12: that provision that you read born or naturalized in the

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Speaker 12: United States. And then the second part is and subject

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Speaker 12: to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens. And so the question becomes,

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Speaker 12: what is what does that mean? What a subject to

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Speaker 12: the jurisdiction thereof mean? And certainly there are a number

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Speaker 12: of examples that that we're given today by by those

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Speaker 12: the Solicitor General and other people arguing the case. Certainly

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Speaker 12: there are examples of of the children of diplomats or

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Speaker 12: the children of foreign insurgents who come to who would

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Speaker 12: come to the United States, think of the War of

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Speaker 12: eighteen twelve and and so forth, and and their children

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Speaker 12: wuld were born here. But no one could have could

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Speaker 12: have imagined that we would have the Chinese state sending

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Speaker 12: people here to have children here to become US citizens

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Speaker 12: and then returning to China. I mean, no one could

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Speaker 12: have imagined those types of things happening, uh in today's world.

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Speaker 11: But uh, I think it.

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Speaker 12: I think it's important to note that there must be

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Speaker 12: some protection and many of many of even if the

686
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Speaker 12: European countries have have have pulled back on on birthright citizenship,

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Speaker 12: and so it's really important to determine what this means.

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Speaker 12: The the Solicitor General had to answer the question today

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Speaker 12: of whether or not this would be that there would

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Speaker 12: be millions of people disenfranchised.

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Speaker 11: Or decitizenized, and and he responded that it would be

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Speaker 11: prospective only.

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Speaker 12: So I think that's that's the test that's before the

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Speaker 12: Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think it would it would help if

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Speaker 1: these arguments at the Supreme Court now that we can

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Speaker 1: at least listen to them. Why why on earth we

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Speaker 1: and with all the technology we have today, why we

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Speaker 1: can't put a camera inside the Supreme Court or in

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Speaker 1: the federal courts is just beyond me because they are

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Speaker 1: totally non invasive. You really, you know, when you go

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Speaker 1: into a casino, you don't know all those cameras are

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Speaker 1: watching you, but they are. So it was a big deal.

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Speaker 12: It was a big deal to get to get to

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Speaker 12: the point where they're recorded. You know, they for a

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Speaker 12: long time they were not recorded, and it was a

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Speaker 12: big deal to get to bad point. So, uh, there's

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Speaker 12: there are pros and cons to it. As you know,

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Speaker 12: I'm a trial lawyer. I've tried less and less of cases,

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Speaker 12: so there are pros and cons to having cameras in

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Speaker 12: the courtroom. But certainly, you know at that at this level,

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Speaker 12: this is something that that is a fundamental interest to

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Speaker 12: every citizen in the United States.

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Speaker 11: There are strong positions pro and con.

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Speaker 12: But uh, you know, I think the more that people

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Speaker 12: can see the process and see the arguments and see

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Speaker 12: what's happening.

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Speaker 11: The better. In our state we do have. We use

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Speaker 11: YouTube as as the as the.

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Speaker 12: Vehicle, and our our arguments in the appellate courts are

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Speaker 12: shown on YouTube, so this citizenry can tune in here

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Speaker 12: and watch. I don't know what you do in Ohio,

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Speaker 12: but in Pennsylvania we do that and at all three

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Speaker 12: levels of our appellate courts you can view the arguments

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Speaker 12: and people find it quite interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I do. And there's cases that make

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Speaker 1: their way in federal court. I don't think we can.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any cameras in there, but I

729
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Speaker 1: know we can listen to the audio after the fact.

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Speaker 1: So but even those audio recordings that I've heard are

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Speaker 1: of very poor quality, so they really don't get the

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Speaker 1: job done when you think about it like that. Katanji

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Speaker 1: Brown Jackson had an interesting and interesting take on this

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Speaker 1: today and this was the Japan stolen wallet theory. And

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Speaker 1: for those who may not have heard it, let me

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Speaker 1: play this for you. Tom king Ross, Let's hear cut

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Speaker 1: number two. Please.

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Speaker 13: I was thinking about this, and I think there are

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Speaker 13: various sources that say this that you can have. You

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Speaker 13: obviously have permanent allegiance based on being born in whatever

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Speaker 13: country you're from. That's what everybody recognizes. But you also

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Speaker 13: have local allegiance when you are on the soil of

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Speaker 13: this other sovereign. And I was thinking, you know, I'm

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Speaker 13: I a US citizen and visiting Japan, and what it

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Speaker 13: means is that, you know, if I steal someone's wallet

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Speaker 13: in Japan, the Japanese authorities can arrest me and prosecute me.

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Speaker 13: It's allegiance, meaning can they control you as a matter

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Speaker 13: of law. I can also rely on them if my

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Speaker 13: wallet is stolen to you know, under Japanese law, go

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Speaker 13: and prosecute the person who has stolen it. So there's

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Speaker 13: this relationship based on even though I'm a temporary traveler,

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Speaker 13: I'm just on vacation in Japan, I'm still locally owing

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Speaker 13: allegiance in that sense.

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Speaker 1: So, Tom King, are you following the logic there that

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Speaker 1: if you go to a foreign country and commit a crime,

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Speaker 1: somehow that translates into some degree of allegiance between you

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Speaker 1: and the other country. I am not.

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Speaker 12: I'm not follow I cannot follow the logic of that.

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Speaker 12: But and there are lots of commentators suggesting that the

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Speaker 12: justice could have used a better example. I don't think

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Speaker 12: that being subject to the criminal laws of a country

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Speaker 12: means that you exhibit any allegiance to that country. The

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Speaker 12: allegiance issue goes back into the eighteen hundreds of the

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Speaker 12: Chinese citizens who were who were in California and remained

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Speaker 12: citizens of China, and the question was whether they whether

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Speaker 12: they pledged allegiance to the United States or whether they

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Speaker 12: retained their allegiance to China. It has nothing to do

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Speaker 12: with being in someone else's country, committing a crime and

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Speaker 12: being subject to being thrown in jail for committing that crime.

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Speaker 12: So I've got you that if she had it to

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Speaker 12: do over again, she'd probably pick a better analogy.

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Speaker 1: Well, don't make that.

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Speaker 11: One works very well.

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Speaker 1: There was the First Amendment case that that she was

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Speaker 1: the only dissenter on the other day, and Sonya Sotomayor

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Speaker 1: even even criticized her for being the only decenter on

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Speaker 1: that in that case out of Colorado.

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Speaker 12: So yeah, the the uh, you know, eight to one

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Speaker 12: decisions are and you're and you're the only one on

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Speaker 12: on the on the minority side, you know, speaks legions

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Speaker 12: about about your the process.

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Speaker 3: I'll just leave it at then.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh, I when just to wrap up this

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Speaker 1: part of the conversation, what what do you think if

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Speaker 1: if this whole notion, Well, really it's just about this,

786
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Speaker 1: this executive order that the President wants to prevent the

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Speaker 1: you know, birther tourism from coming to the United States,

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Speaker 1: chain ligration, all those sorts of things and the associated

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Speaker 1: costs therein, and the the whole idea that someone who

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Speaker 1: was in the country illegally can give birth and then

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Speaker 1: that offspring is somehow a legal person being here. Just uh,

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Speaker 1: that's another piece of logic that I'm not able to follow.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think there are several things that could happen,

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Speaker 12: you know. Obviously it could be reversed, it could be affirmed,

795
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Speaker 12: or somewhere in the middle. It could be that that

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Speaker 12: the Supreme Court could say that this is not an

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Speaker 12: appropriate vehicle, you know, using an executive order to declare this,

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Speaker 12: that Congress may need to do something, or Congress, subject

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Speaker 12: to the President's veto power, may need to do something.

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Speaker 12: So it'll be interesting to see what happens. The The

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Speaker 12: problem with that, I think is that it's it's it's

802
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Speaker 12: been in place for so long that it's almost become institutionalized.

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Speaker 12: Whether it was originally right or not, and to the

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Speaker 12: extent that people began to question, as they always do

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Speaker 12: when Donald Trump says something, well, that's crazy, And then

806
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Speaker 12: they came to learn that it wasn't crazy, and that

807
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Speaker 12: it's been questioned before, and it's been questioned over the years,

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Speaker 12: and that this has never been fully decided by the court. So,

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Speaker 12: you know, once again, Donald Trump has proven to be

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Speaker 12: pretty astute about this issue and how it relates to

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Speaker 12: society today and the country today and what's going on

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Speaker 12: with the you know, with the illegal immigration and the

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Speaker 12: children of legal illegal immigrants, but also this birther In

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Speaker 12: industry that's occurring with people being flown in from China

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Speaker 12: and other countries to deliver here, become a US citizen

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Speaker 12: and have rights. They could potentially come back and vote.

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Speaker 12: They could come back an old office, you know, they

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Speaker 12: could become mayor of New York, right.

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Speaker 1: Heir of New York. Let me ask you another question

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Speaker 1: about about these district judges that just keep running a muck.

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Speaker 1: There was a DC district judge yesterday who tried to

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Speaker 1: block President Trump from constructing the new White House ballroom.

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Speaker 1: There was another district court judge, Alison Burrows who attempted

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Speaker 1: to overthrow the willing American people by ordering dhs to

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Speaker 1: reinstate legal status for nearly a million illegals that were

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Speaker 1: told to leave the country through the c CBP one app.

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Speaker 1: So this continues with these district judges and these federal

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Speaker 1: court judges who continue to get in and obstruct what

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Speaker 1: Trump is trying to do. And I was looking at

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Speaker 1: the totals on this. Under George W. Bush, there was

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Speaker 1: a total of nine or I'm sorry, a total of

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Speaker 1: six nationwide injunctions. Under Barack Obama. There was a total

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Speaker 1: of twelve under Joe Biden twenty eight. Donald Trump in

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Speaker 1: his first term had sixty four, and as of mid

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, thirty nine. So that's uh, that's over

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Speaker 1: one hundred injunctions just against Donald Trump in the time

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Speaker 1: that he's been in office. I mean, this whole thing,

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Speaker 1: Tom King is completely out of control, with these judges

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Speaker 1: who feel like they ought to be the ones who

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Speaker 1: are running the country.

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Speaker 12: It's it's absolutely out of control. And the Supreme Court

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Speaker 12: has recently tried to rein it in and and I

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Speaker 12: think they're going to rain.

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Speaker 11: These these these decisions in as well.

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Speaker 12: You know, some of these people have gone gone overboard,

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Speaker 12: and especially the most recent decisions that you that you

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Speaker 12: were just talking about are are just over the top.

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Speaker 12: I think you'll see Justice Robert Chief Justice Roberts and

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Speaker 12: others on that court act to stop this again. These

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Speaker 12: nationwide injunctions are are really they really have very politicized.

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Speaker 12: They're very political, and you have you have a process.

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Speaker 12: You know, the federal judges for many many years have

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Speaker 12: had great respect by the by the members of the

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Speaker 12: bar and the public at large. But the process is

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Speaker 12: and I've been involved in in sitting on committees here,

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Speaker 12: you know, interviewing people and making recommendations to our US

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Speaker 12: Senators for federal judge ships. And the process is is

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Speaker 12: is absolutely political, and it depends on who's in office,

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Speaker 12: and it depends on on you know, who gets who

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Speaker 12: gets appointed to these positions, so that the I believe

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Speaker 12: that the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 11: Will reign these decisions in as well.

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Speaker 12: They're they're overreaching and uh, they're really uh they're really

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Speaker 12: improper in my view.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then before I let you go, I've saw

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Speaker 1: this story today that a Representative Gregory Meeks, a Democrat

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Speaker 1: out of New York, is claiming that President Trump is

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Speaker 1: try trying to steal an election by making it so

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Speaker 1: people can't vote, and yeah, that's.

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Speaker 11: No, that's nonsense.

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Speaker 8: We all know.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 11: Listen, this mail in voting came about.

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Speaker 12: It was there, was there, there were books written about

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Speaker 12: it by the Democratic Advisors on instituting. And it's been

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Speaker 12: in place in some Democratic states for a long time,

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Speaker 12: like Oregon and California. Yeah, and the rest of us

878
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Speaker 12: got stuck with it. I've been and I've been up

879
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Speaker 12: to the Supreme Court myself on these issues. We have

880
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Speaker 12: a case up there right now that we're waiting to

881
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Speaker 12: see if the if the Court will will take on

882
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 12: on the on the undated mail in.

883
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Speaker 11: Ballots, which we've been fighting over here for years.

884
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Speaker 12: So you know, what what Trump's trying to do is

885
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Speaker 12: get back to the normalcy of the country that we understood.

886
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Speaker 12: They showed up at our polling place on the day

887
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Speaker 12: of the election. We had the first case, the one

888
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Speaker 12: up there the other day. The Supreme Court overturned or

889
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Speaker 12: looks like I'm not sure if they have decided yet,

890
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Speaker 12: but the Mississippi case, it looks like they're going to

891
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Speaker 12: get rid of the ballots coming in after election.

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Speaker 7: Day.

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Speaker 12: You know, there's a federal law that says the election

894
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Speaker 12: is to be held on election day, and Mississippi had

895
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Speaker 12: at a statute that allowed for ballots to come in

896
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Speaker 12: four or five days later. And I'm not talking about

897
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Speaker 12: military ballots. We know that they might come in later,

898
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Speaker 12: and that's those things have been subject to court.

899
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Speaker 11: Cases for years. But this this stuff about stealing an election.

900
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Speaker 12: What the President has suggested is common sense idea about yeah,

901
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Speaker 12: producing idea the ballot box when you go to vote,

902
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Speaker 12: making sure that we're we're that only citizens are voting,

903
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Speaker 12: and having a having a clean election. It doesn't it

904
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Speaker 12: doesn't control anything. It simply makes it legitimate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't forget twenty twenty. The election was pure

906
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Speaker 1: as the wind driven snow.

907
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Speaker 3: So we all have to yes, listen.

908
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Speaker 12: But the facts that are coming out now about the

909
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Speaker 12: twenty twenty election are just incredible.

910
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Speaker 11: And I have to tell you this, Dan, this is true.

911
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 11: This is pretty fascinating.

912
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Speaker 12: We have a case over here in Pennsylvania which has

913
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Speaker 12: been brought by the Democrats against a Republican county, the

914
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Speaker 12: County of Cambria, and where the Democrats are suggesting that

915
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Speaker 12: the uh that the electronic voting systems were manipulatd the Democrats.

916
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Speaker 12: That's eas I was on the phone about it today

917
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Speaker 12: that we actually have such a case uh filed filed

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Speaker 12: in the federal courts here in Pennsylvania by the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna have to you know what, I'm

920
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Speaker 1: gonna have to have you back on the show and

921
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Speaker 1: we'll just spend a whole segment talking about that, because yeah,

922
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Speaker 1: there's a lot that'll be great. Yeah, there there has

923
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Speaker 1: just been so much stuff that has come out over

924
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Speaker 1: the last three or four months. To my way of thinking,

925
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Speaker 1: it's absolutely amazing. But Tom King, we got to run.

926
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Speaker 1: As always, man, I appreciate you answering the bell and

927
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Speaker 1: thanks for your insight. As always, we'll be talking again

928
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Speaker 1: before too long.

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Speaker 11: Thanks for having me on. I enjoyed and thank you

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Speaker 11: very much.

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Speaker 1: All Right night, Tom King here, you're the absolute best.

932
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Speaker 1: Ten fifty six, that's seven hundred ww Wednesday Night Edition.

933
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Speaker 1: I get to come back tomorrow and do it again

934
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Speaker 1: on Thursday Night, so I'm looking forward to that. No

935
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Speaker 1: more guests between now and midnight. Five one, three, seven, nine,

936
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Speaker 1: seven thousand, eight hundred the Big One. If you want

937
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Speaker 1: to get on board. Let's go to Ken and Mason

938
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Speaker 1: has been hanging on for a while, and Ken, I

939
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Speaker 1: appreciate you hanging on. How'd you like my guest Tom King.

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Speaker 1: He's pretty good, isn't he.

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Speaker 10: He's fantastic. Get's been a great show so far tonight, Dan,

942
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Speaker 10: thank you. There's been some revelations I've been wondering about.

943
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Speaker 10: I wanted to get your opinion on it too, Okay,

944
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Speaker 10: Spain's refusal to get involved with the United States, France's refusal,

945
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Speaker 10: Britain's refusal to get involved with Trump on their Ryan's situation.

946
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Speaker 10: I'm starting to wonder if it's one world order situation.

947
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Speaker 10: These people are fighting Trump, you know, and hard, because

948
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Speaker 10: Trump is bringing freedom to the Iranian people, He's bringing

949
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Speaker 10: freedom to the Venezuelan people. He's going to bring freedom

950
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Speaker 10: to the Cuban people. And I'm just wondering if this

951
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Speaker 10: goes against their agenda what they want to do. And

952
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Speaker 10: this past weekend, I saw thousands of United States Communist

953
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Speaker 10: flags being flown in these No Kings rallies, you.

954
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Speaker 1: Know, I saw that. I saw the same thing.

955
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Speaker 10: You know, and it's I'm really wondering what's going on there.

956
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Speaker 10: France wouldn't exist with that, the United States. England wouldn't

957
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Speaker 10: exist with that the United States already, and I mean,

958
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Speaker 10: uh Sturmer in England seems frightened of the Muslim people

959
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Speaker 10: he has now they have what is it, one hundred

960
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Speaker 10: and fifty sixth aurea, it's now in England. You know,

961
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Speaker 10: they're afraid they have no go zones now in London

962
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Speaker 10: and that they can't go because of these people. I mean,

963
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Speaker 10: this all is disturbing, ye, very disturbed.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. And I had a guest on

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Speaker 1: I don't know, a month or so ago, and he's

966
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Speaker 1: a frequent traveler to Spain and France and the UK,

967
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Speaker 1: and and he was talking about how, you know, his

968
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Speaker 1: observations of what is going on over there, and these

969
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Speaker 1: countries are pretty much, if they're not completely lost already,

970
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Speaker 1: they are, they are very close to it. And Marco

971
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Speaker 1: Rubio was talking about this situation that you just brought

972
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Speaker 1: up at the beginning of this conversation, and Marco Rubio

973
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Speaker 1: was essentially saying, look, we can pull out of there

974
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Speaker 1: whenever we want. That they need us a lot more

975
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Speaker 1: than we need them, and when our military installations and

976
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Speaker 1: all the other all the other large s that the

977
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Speaker 1: United States has in these countries. If we pull that out,

978
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Speaker 1: then they're going to realize that it's it's not it's

979
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Speaker 1: not going to be very good for them.

980
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Speaker 10: So well, I would just say it's a matter of

981
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Speaker 10: a few years that Putin will decide to take them over.

982
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

983
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Speaker 10: So I don't think you give a problem with doing

984
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Speaker 10: that ever, especially if United States no longer a factor.

985
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Speaker 1: Yeah, if the if the current political leadership wants to

986
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Speaker 1: you know, deny access to to to the land, you know,

987
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Speaker 1: at a military base, or overfly their country or whatever

988
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Speaker 1: the case may be, if they want to do that,

989
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Speaker 1: well then Mark Rubia was essentially saying that there's there's

990
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Speaker 1: a price that's going to have to be paid for them,

991
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Speaker 1: and when that reckoning comes, you know, he's he's very, very,

992
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Speaker 1: very convinced that they're not going to like the way

993
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Speaker 1: that that's going to shake out for them.

994
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Speaker 10: You know, Dan, I've been talking to you for the

995
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Speaker 10: last year about the fact I think we're nearing a

996
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Speaker 10: civil war in this country. People need to understand the

997
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Speaker 10: Communists are now out in front. They're well ware. I

998
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Speaker 10: just said there were thousands of American communists, And I

999
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Speaker 10: said that right, people, American communists flying their flags in

1000
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Speaker 10: many different cities in America.

1001
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Speaker 8: This past weekend.

1002
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Speaker 10: The communists are out there. Is this what people want?

1003
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Speaker 10: Do they want to give up their freedom? Do they

1004
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 10: want to be told what to do, when to do, and.

1005
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Speaker 11: How to do it?

1006
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Speaker 10: Because I think that the people Dan are so naive

1007
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Speaker 10: and so ignorant of what's going on that they don't understand,

1008
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Speaker 10: you know, they they don't know history at all, I

1009
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Speaker 10: mean in it just and I.

1010
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Speaker 1: Made that observation. I was on Saturday night. I was

1011
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: filling in for D who took Saturday night off, and

1012
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Speaker 1: I was glad to be here, and I was talking

1013
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Speaker 1: to my buddy Andrew Pappus about these No Kings demonstrations

1014
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Speaker 1: and and and I remember I had I had made

1015
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Speaker 1: that note earlier in the day, and I had it

1016
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Speaker 1: on my notebook right in front of me, and I

1017
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Speaker 1: wrote down, you've got the Communist Party, you've got radical Islamists,

1018
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Speaker 1: and you've got the Democrat Party who were all joining

1019
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: forces and making common cause at these No Kings rallies.

1020
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Speaker 1: And I really think especially for those on behalf of

1021
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Speaker 1: or who claimed to be anti Trump and the no kings.

1022
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Speaker 1: I really think they are clueless when it comes to

1023
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: getting in bed with these other organizations. It may all

1024
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: seem fine and dandy and it's all fun and games,

1025
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: and you know, the socialists and the communists and these

1026
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: radical Muslims are going to take care of everything else

1027
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: and they don't have anything to worry about. Well, sure,

1028
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: that's the bill of good that's the bill of goods

1029
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: that you're going to be sold. But when the rubber

1030
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: hits the road, then you're gonna you're gonna find out

1031
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: what the reality of it is. And it ain't going

1032
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Speaker 1: to be so good.

1033
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Speaker 10: On these people. Dan, we're wishing death upon Trump once

1034
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 10: on the lady. I hope cholesterol does what it's supposed

1035
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Speaker 10: to do soon, you know, just I mean direct statements

1036
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 10: about they want Trump debt. I mean, these people are militant,

1037
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 10: you know. I think there's Dean. I think we're coming

1038
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 10: to a head where the flyover States will not tolerate

1039
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 10: what's going on in the East Coast and West Coast,

1040
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Speaker 10: and I think it's gonna get potentially very very ugly.

1041
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how far you can sell out

1042
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: everything that you believe in simply because you don't like

1043
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: the guy who's in the White House, and they've they've

1044
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: crossed so many lines and they've gone so far down

1045
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: the road on this, and they're I don't I don't

1046
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: believe they're even close to the majority. But for whatever reason,

1047
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: whether they got paid, or whether they just are bored

1048
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: and don't have anything else to do, or they maybe

1049
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: down in their hearts say they believe that Trump really

1050
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: is a bad person. But it's funny when you see

1051
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of videos of those Neil King's protests,

1052
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: and you had people who were asking these individuals, these

1053
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: individual protesters a series of questions and they're not able

1054
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: to answer a single question, and they wind up just

1055
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: getting to the point where they get mad and they

1056
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: either walk away or they want to engage in some

1057
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: sort of physical violence. The person who's asking the question Chorros.

1058
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Speaker 10: And that guy from China Simeon, I'm not sure you

1059
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 10: exactly sure? He says, they put three billion dollars into this.

1060
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Speaker 10: These people are being paid. I mean, that's how ignorant

1061
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 10: and how stupid they really are.

1062
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: Well, I don't you know what, I think a lot

1063
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: of the people who were actually out there on the

1064
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Speaker 1: streets carrying the signs. I don't know if they were

1065
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Speaker 1: getting paid. I think the people who organized them and

1066
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Speaker 1: got them out there are the ones who are getting paid.

1067
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: So they're getting screwed by their own people.

1068
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 10: Well, no, the actual protesters on the street are being

1069
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Speaker 10: paid to Dan Okay, all right, They're all being paid

1070
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 10: over three billion dollars money. People need to understand this.

1071
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 10: George Soros destroyed Britain thirty five years ago, and a

1072
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 10: lot of people don't history. He destroyed their economy, you know.

1073
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Speaker 10: And George Soros is one of the most evil people

1074
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 10: on the face of the earth. And his son is

1075
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Speaker 10: just as evil.

1076
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Speaker 8: You know.

1077
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Speaker 10: These people are evil personified. They want to take away

1078
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 10: the American way of life. America is standing in the

1079
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 10: way of them dominating the world. They want power. This

1080
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Speaker 10: is all about power.

1081
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Speaker 2: You know.

1082
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Speaker 10: Everything else they say or lies, Everything they say in

1083
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 10: the media are lies. They just keep lying and line.

1084
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 10: More more often you say lies, more often people start

1085
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Speaker 10: to believe the lies.

1086
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Speaker 1: Well, they're running out of they've run out of legitimate arguments,

1087
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Speaker 1: and so that's their last resort now, is just a

1088
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Speaker 1: flat out lie about everything. And when I was talking

1089
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Speaker 1: to Tom King, I was talking about this Democrat representative

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Speaker 1: out of New York who is making a statement that

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Speaker 1: Trump wants to prevent people from voting. Why because he

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Speaker 1: wants voter id he wants to secure the elections and

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Speaker 1: make sure that only American citizens get to vote in elections.

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Speaker 1: But none of the past. They've got to come out

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Speaker 1: and flat out lie about it and talk about how

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Speaker 1: if you're a married woman, or you've changed your name,

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Speaker 1: or something else is going on in your life, then

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Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to vote. And it's

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Speaker 1: a nothing could be further from the truth. So they're

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Speaker 1: legitimate arguments. The vast majority of them just don't hold

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Speaker 1: any water. So and Chuck Cummer is doing the same

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Speaker 1: thing on the floor of the Senate.

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Speaker 10: Well, they're all dumb now. They all don't know how

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Speaker 10: to vote, they all they all can't find their birth certificate.

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Speaker 3: They're all idiots.

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Speaker 10: And I'm going they won't stop at anything they do.

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Speaker 10: They'll say whatever lie they have to say to keep going.

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Speaker 10: You know, it's Saulolensky. We talk about this all the time.

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Speaker 10: You know, in power's lying, they weaponize lying, and they lie, lie, lie, lie.

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Speaker 10: People need to wake up. They need to understand what's

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Speaker 10: going on. America is the greatest country on earth. I've

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Speaker 10: been fortunate enough to travel throughout Europe many, many times,

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Speaker 10: and I'm always sad and by the state of life

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Speaker 10: that most of the people in Europe live. People don't understand.

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Speaker 10: Ninety five percent of people in Europe can't afford a car. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: nine percent of Europeans live in studio apartments basically and

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Speaker 10: share bathrooms with three other families. And the moms have

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Speaker 10: to take their card every day and walk to a

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Speaker 10: you know, a grocery store somewhere to pick up the

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Speaker 10: day's groceries because they can't afford a refrigerator. I mean,

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Speaker 10: these people live in abject poverty. We have it so

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Speaker 10: good in America.

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Speaker 1: Again, I thought they had. I thought they had that

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Speaker 1: what do they call that, the guaranteed minimum income, And

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Speaker 1: they've got socialized medicine and public transportation and all the

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Speaker 1: rest of it. It's it's supposed to be a paradise,

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Speaker 1: isn't it, all the socialism going on over there.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and it's anything people. Socialism is anything but a paradise.

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Speaker 10: Socialism is about survival. You just try to make it

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Speaker 10: from one day to the next you know, life expectancy

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Speaker 10: is ten years less in Europe than it is in America,

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Speaker 10: ten years less, you know, because of lack of medical care.

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Speaker 10: They have lack of everything. Socialistic governments all ending, you know,

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Speaker 10: abject failure. They all have one. Socialistic government has never succeeded.

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Speaker 10: It has ever succeeded.

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Speaker 1: It's it happens that way every time. Ken, We've only

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Speaker 1: got a couple of minutes left here. What did you

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Speaker 1: make of Trump's address to the nation tonight.

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Speaker 10: I thought it was very effective for a man that's

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Speaker 10: long gone mentally party to the Democrats, you know, for

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Speaker 10: seventy nine years old. The guy's one of the most

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Speaker 10: amazing human beings ever said. I thought his speech was

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Speaker 10: spot on, Dan, I thought he hit all the major points.

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Speaker 10: I think he's tried to show the world. He's tried

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Speaker 10: to negotiate with Iran, He's tried to find a peaceful

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Speaker 10: solution to this. But I don't think Dan, as you know,

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Speaker 10: those people like I do. I don't think they're ever

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Speaker 10: going to surrender. I don't think they're ever going to

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Speaker 10: give up. It's a death culture, you know, and I

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Speaker 10: think they'll do that to the I think they want

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Speaker 10: to be killed. I think that's the only resolution will

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Speaker 10: accept his death. And I'm sure there's a few sane

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Speaker 10: people in Iran, but they're being overrun by, you know,

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Speaker 10: the idiots over there that want to just keep fighting.

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Speaker 10: I mean, they believe Attila the hunt is still possible.

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Speaker 10: They're living in the eighteen hundreds, you know, and they're

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Speaker 10: not going to accept defeat no matter what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is it is it possible to wipe all of

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Speaker 1: those people out though, And I don't know that it is.

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Speaker 10: I don't know that it is either Dan, but we

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Speaker 10: can put it to a point that they're completely inept.

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Speaker 10: They won't have anything left, I mean, and eventually I

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Speaker 10: think at some point they just realize what's going on,

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Speaker 10: they give up. I think we have to kill a

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Speaker 10: whole lot more of those people, you know, But I

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Speaker 10: think eventually it gets the point they realize they have nothing,

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Speaker 10: I mean, and it's getting to that point. I think

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Speaker 10: basically when Trump finished up Cards Island and takes away

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Speaker 10: their oil supplies, I mean, they have absolutely no money.

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Speaker 10: And you know when that happens, well.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Trump is I think Trump is

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Speaker 1: reluctant to to wipe out their means of producing oil

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Speaker 1: and shipping oil and and processing oil, because that is

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Speaker 1: the lifeline, that's the financial lifeline. That is probably the

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Speaker 1: only thing they'll have left when they get the all

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Speaker 1: destroy and everything else.

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Speaker 10: The box he's in, Dan, though, is if he leaves

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Speaker 10: that alone and those people go and still bogart that

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Speaker 10: they're producing, you know, producing oil, they're going to have

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Speaker 10: money still and they're they've proven themselves over the last

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Speaker 10: twenty years. They're gonna use every dime they get for weapons.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We that's why he's got to he's got to watch out.

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Speaker 1: Who's who's going to be in charge of it? Ken,

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Speaker 1: I'm up against clock. I got to run as always.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you picking up the phone.

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Speaker 10: All right, Dan, you have a good one. I enjoying

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Speaker 10: this show all I.

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Speaker 1: Thank you and Ken from Mason eleven five at seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WW. Right back on the Big One seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WW eleven thirty eight, Dan Carroll till midnight tonight on

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Speaker 1: the Wednesday night edition of The Midweek Crisis five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 1: seven eight hundred The Big One, Man, I had a

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Speaker 1: couple of really great pieces about birthright citizenship and it's

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Speaker 1: not going to have time to get to those tonight,

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Speaker 1: but I did find another great piece about the cost

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Speaker 1: the economic cost of open borders, written by Casey Casey Howard.

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Speaker 1: Immigration is one of the most contentious conversations. Americans are

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Speaker 1: starting to realize that accountability for rapidly shifting demographics is

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Speaker 1: more uncomfortable than most expected. The numbers are large and

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Speaker 1: even more distressing when you consider the scale of the

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Speaker 1: population shift underway. There are approximately fourteen million illegal aliens

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Speaker 1: currently living in the United States. I think you can

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Speaker 1: make an argument that number is higher, but this is

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Speaker 1: according to Pew Research. That number is up two point

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Speaker 1: two million from eleven point eight million in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The broader foreign born population increased by six point five

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Speaker 1: million in just over thirty six months between January of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one in March of twenty twenty four, rising

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Speaker 1: from four point five million to fifty one point six million.

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Speaker 1: Foreigners now make up approximately fifteen point six percent of

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Speaker 1: the US population, a proportion comparable only to eighteen ninety,

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Speaker 1: when it was fourteen point eight percent of the population. Systems, schools,

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Speaker 1: emergency rooms, housing markets, municipal budgets process people at certain speed.

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Speaker 1: When growth outpaces capacity, the real costs are simply multiples

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Speaker 1: of the original investment. They become exponential. A study by

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Speaker 1: the Federation for American Immigration Reform FARE, which is a

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Speaker 1: great website, by the way, fair Fair, finds that illegal

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Speaker 1: immigration costs American taxpayers one hundred eighty two billion dollars

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Speaker 1: annually before offsetting tax is paid by these individuals. After

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Speaker 1: applying that offset, the net loss is one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty zero point seven billion dollars a year. This is

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Speaker 1: a thirty three i'm sorry, a thirty five billion dollar

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Speaker 1: increase from fare's estimate in twenty seventeen, driven by population

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Speaker 1: growth and expanded state benefit programs. Broken down, that is

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Speaker 1: nine hundred and fifty seven dollars per taxpayer per year

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Speaker 1: and approximately eighty seven hundred and seventy six per illegal

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Speaker 1: alien or US born child thereof every year. So when

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Speaker 1: I was talking to Chris from Westchester and he's talking

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Speaker 1: about all the government large s that these illegals get,

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Speaker 1: which is supposed to be illegal, by the way, think

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Speaker 1: about that nine hundred and fifty seven dollars per year

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Speaker 1: from every single taxpayer, and you can't claim it on

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Speaker 1: your taxes at the federal level twenty twenty three spending

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Speaker 1: total sixty six point four billion dollars, including twenty three

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Speaker 1: billion on medical services eleven point six billion on welfare

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Speaker 1: programs like food stamps, child nutrition su mental security income.

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Speaker 1: While federal figures grab headline, state and local governments bear

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Speaker 1: the sharpest pain. A Congressional Budget Office report on the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three immigrant surge found that while revenue from

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Speaker 1: the influx increased by ten point one billion dollars, spending

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Speaker 1: rows by nineteen point three. That is a net loss

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Speaker 1: of over nine billion dollars. And so that's what the

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Speaker 1: ladies on the view like to talk about all the time,

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Speaker 1: is that by the labor and the work done by

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Speaker 1: these illegal aliens in the country, well that's a multi

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Speaker 1: billion dollar benefit. Well you can make that argument, but

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make it true. Ten point one billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: So that's the that's the revenue generated by illegals, at

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Speaker 1: least it was in twenty twenty three. But then when

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Speaker 1: you look at the total costs associated with it, it's

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Speaker 1: a nine point it's a nine billion dollar net loss.

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Speaker 1: The three primary cost drivers were K through twelve, education,

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Speaker 1: emergency shelter and border security, California spends twenty one point

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Speaker 1: seventy six billion dollars annually to absorb the consequences of

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Speaker 1: illegal immigration. So all these numbers that they're talking about

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Speaker 1: in this piece here came from twenty twenty three and

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. It would be interesting to see how

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Speaker 1: those numbers play out in twenty twenty five and in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six and what the net benefit has been

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Speaker 1: to the states that don't have to pay that. And

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Speaker 1: then there's this, according to NewsBusters. While EBC, CBS, NBC

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Speaker 1: have shown scant interest just three minutes and forty three

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Speaker 1: seconds on their lead morning and evening shows and covering

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Speaker 1: the University of Loyal and Chicago students Sheridan Gorman and

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Speaker 1: her brutal murder back on March nineteenth, CNN and MS

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Speaker 1: ms NOW have been less interested. So CNN ms NOW

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Speaker 1: have been less interested in reporting on the murder allegedly

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Speaker 1: at the hands of an illegal from Venezuela, as neither

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Speaker 1: has dedicated a single on air story to this crime.

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Speaker 1: So this was in Chicago, an innocent young college student

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Speaker 1: out walking with friends, and it was at night, and

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Speaker 1: this dude from Venezuela has a gun showed through in

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Speaker 1: the back of the head. But that is not a

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Speaker 1: story that is worth covering on CNN and MSNBC. They

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Speaker 1: probably didn't cover this story either. Another illegal alien charged

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Speaker 1: with murder in Democrat run Fairfax County. Annibal Armando Tarvaria

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Speaker 1: Moy was arrested and for the stabbing death of a

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Speaker 1: man on Sunday. This is the second deadly stabbing by

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Speaker 1: an illegal alien in Fairfax County in the past six weeks.

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Speaker 1: Stephanie Mintter was murdered at a bus stop in February.

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Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Sierra Leone was charged in that killing.

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Speaker 1: So the killings continue. And then there was this from Louisville,

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Speaker 1: Kentucky about a twelve year old girl who was brutalized

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Speaker 1: by an illegal alien. And this was earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: This is WLKY in Louisville, Kentucky and russ Can we

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Speaker 1: hear cut number one please?

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Speaker 14: A man who's been arrested and is facing multiple charges

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Speaker 14: after he allegedly kidnapped and sexually assaulted a young child.

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Speaker 14: Lexison Belize arrested Jorge Luis Martinez Ujoa yesterday after they

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Speaker 14: got a call about a child who had been assaulted.

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Speaker 14: That child is younger than twelve and was taken to

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Speaker 14: the hospital. But Yoa is facing several charges including kidnapping, strangulation,

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Speaker 14: and rape. He's in prison as he waits to be reigned.

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Speaker 14: So that's in Louisville.

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Speaker 1: And if I wanted to, I could do multiple stories

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Speaker 1: every night about American innocent Americans who get murdered, who

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Speaker 1: get raped, who get assaulted at the hands of illegals.

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Speaker 1: A federal judge on Tuesday ordered the Trump administration to

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Speaker 1: restore the legal status of hundreds of thousands of migrants

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Speaker 1: who entered the US on a Biden era cell phone app.

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Speaker 1: More than nine hundred thousand migrants entered on the Biden

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Speaker 1: CPB one app. And so what the Trump administration did,

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Speaker 1: since that app already existed, they reconfigured that app to

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Speaker 1: allow these illegals to use that app to self deport.

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Speaker 1: And now you've got a judge who was saying, no, no,

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Speaker 1: We've got to restore their legal status. What the hell

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Speaker 1: is wrong with these people? So, if you are a Democrat,

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Speaker 1: if you support Democrats, if you were out marching during

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Speaker 1: the No Kings rally, this is the kind of stuff

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Speaker 1: that you support and there really is something wrong with you.

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Speaker 1: On that note, let's go to Raphael in bond Hill,

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Speaker 1: see what's on his mind tonight, Rafael, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Wait?

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Speaker 7: You always?

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Speaker 1: Why do you always wait?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 1: Why do you always wait so late to call me?

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Speaker 9: I just get off work and I try to catch you, right,

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Speaker 9: I get off work?

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Speaker 1: All right, they're working. Okay, Well that's that's a perfectly.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm contributing to society my taxpayer dollars and.

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Speaker 1: Nine hundred I think what was the number nine hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty seven for every taxpayer in the country.

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Speaker 9: You got it?

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Speaker 8: There?

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Speaker 11: You going it since I was fourteen years old.

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Speaker 5: So hey, hey, brother Dan, I think the reason main

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Speaker 5: reason I.

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Speaker 9: See correct me.

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Speaker 5: If I'm wrong, you might see it differently as to

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Speaker 5: why coverage from a CNN, MS and NOW or some

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Speaker 5: of the others in media outlets around the United States

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Speaker 5: isn't too up to part where you think it should

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Speaker 5: be when it comes to illegal aliens, immigrants killing brutally

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Speaker 5: killing Americans.

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Speaker 11: I think because then.

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Speaker 5: The fact remains more Americans brutally kill Americans more so

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Speaker 5: than illegal immigrants do kill Americans.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you look at Raphael. If you look at

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Speaker 1: the WRAW numbers, that is true that there are far

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Speaker 1: more heinous crimes committed by American citizens against other American citizens.

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Speaker 4: That is true, too many.

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Speaker 1: But we're talking about over fourteen hundred people in the

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Speaker 1: last twenty five years. And what our media loves to

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Speaker 1: do is they love to put a face on crimes.

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Speaker 1: And you just look at some of these circumstances that

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Speaker 1: have taken place. I mean, look, listen to the SoundBite

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Speaker 1: I just played that they're from w l YK or

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Speaker 1: w LKY I'm sorry in Louisville about a twelve year

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Speaker 1: old girl strangled, kidnapped, raped, brutalized. I mean, and these

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Speaker 1: illegal aliens who attack these kids, it's not usually it's

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Speaker 1: not just one kid, it's multiple kids, and they've got

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Speaker 1: multiple contacts with the system, and they've been arrested multiple times,

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Speaker 1: and it's a it's absolutely sick And how can that

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Speaker 1: possibly happen if they're in the country illegally, they've been deported,

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Speaker 1: they come back in. I mean, it's it's it's just

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Speaker 1: it's horrific.

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Speaker 9: I'm not trying to, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, condone the elital immigrants aliens that commit hadence crimes

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Speaker 5: upon Americans in the United States on our soil.

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Speaker 9: Not trying to condone at all, But what I am

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Speaker 9: saying is is that it's a minuscule number percentage when

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Speaker 9: it pertains to the overall murder rate, homicide rate, valid

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Speaker 9: crime rate Americans are perpetrating against other Americans.

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Speaker 1: Well, if we didn't but look, if we didn't have

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Speaker 1: to waste manpower, time resources on tracking down these uh,

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Speaker 1: these illegals who commit these horrific crimes, then we could

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Speaker 1: spend more time doing what we can to prevent other

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Speaker 1: crimes from happening. So they mean, but the but the

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Speaker 1: frustrating thing about this is is that these are these

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Speaker 1: are people who should not have been in the country

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Speaker 1: in the first place. And so it just I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about that if that was someone in

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Speaker 1: your family who was that's yes, I mean think about that.

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Speaker 1: We just wouldn't that just eat you alive? That this

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Speaker 1: is the person who shouldn't have been in the country.

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Speaker 1: And to begin with, aah.

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Speaker 5: Dan, can I ask you this, so, do you have

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Speaker 5: a solution of sorts to the immigration issue?

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Speaker 9: Should it if.

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Speaker 5: You're from outside the United States, born outside the United States,

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Speaker 5: should you be allowed to come to the United States

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Speaker 5: and obtain citizenship at all, so to contribute productively to society,

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Speaker 5: American society.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, How would How does that work? The people, the

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Speaker 1: people that are listening to us right now, by and large,

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Speaker 1: have no issue at all with legal immigration. I will

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Speaker 1: concede that. I think, and I know people who have

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Speaker 1: gone through the system that have spent their time. I

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Speaker 1: mean and tons of time, lots of money, lots of inconvenience,

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Speaker 1: lots of hassle. I think the the the system that

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Speaker 1: we have now to get people into the country legally

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Speaker 1: and get them on the track to become naturalized citizens,

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Speaker 1: I think is far too complex, far too cumbersome, far

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Speaker 1: too expensive. I think that needs to be streamlined in

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Speaker 1: a meaningful way. I think there could also be meaningful

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Speaker 1: reforms when it comes to guest worker programs in this country.

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Speaker 1: People who come from south of the border or wherever

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Speaker 1: they wherever you want to come from. They want to

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Speaker 1: work in agriculture, they want to work in farming, they

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Speaker 1: want to do a seasonal labor. I think I think

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Speaker 1: we need to reform the system that we have for that.

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Speaker 1: I think we need to yeah, the farm.

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Speaker 10: I agree, are going to do Americans aren't going to

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Speaker 10: do those pick any letters and any you know, greats

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Speaker 10: or whatever.

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Speaker 9: That's just that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: But first, but the first things. That the first thing

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Speaker 1: before you can get to that, and I've said it

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Speaker 1: from the very beating, the first thing you need to do.

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Speaker 1: You've got to stop the bleeding. You got to secure

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Speaker 1: the border, and you've got to get the people out

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Speaker 1: that don't belong here. And look what the Trump administration did.

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Speaker 1: They said, if you're here illegally and you voluntarily self deport,

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Speaker 1: you know, you raise your hand, you say, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: not supposed to be overstayed my visa, whatever the case

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Speaker 1: may be. I'm not out there committing crimes. Well, they're

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Speaker 1: going to put a little to put some cash in

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Speaker 1: your pocket, put you on an airplane, and now you

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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to come back in at another time

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Speaker 1: in a legal way, which I think is a very

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Speaker 1: fair way of dealing with these individuals. The idea that

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Speaker 1: you're going to give someone just because they've managed to

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Speaker 1: be in the country illegally for five, ten or fifteen

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Speaker 1: years and say you know what, by golly, you deserve

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Speaker 1: a path to citizenship because You've been able to duck

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Speaker 1: and dodge and hide for that entire time. And what's

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Speaker 1: right about that? We have twenty seconds left.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but Dan, when Don John put his ICE agents

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Speaker 5: out into these democratic stronghold cities and whatnot for a

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Speaker 5: short force, I thought we were going to sweep up

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Speaker 5: all the illegal criminals.

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Speaker 1: Rapist Rafael. Why did they have to do that? Why

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Speaker 1: did they have to be out of the city, going

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Speaker 1: door to door, street to street, Because because a lot

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Speaker 1: of these illegals who were in custody were let go

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Speaker 1: by local municipalities, mayors and governors who want to have

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Speaker 1: sanctuary states, sanctuary cities, and they don't want to cooperate

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Speaker 1: with ICE. And Raphael, I'm way late, Rafael, thanks for

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Speaker 1: the call. As always, I got to go wait late

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Speaker 1: for a break here eleven fifty six. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you again tomorrow night on seven hundred WLW.