1 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: Sam is going to join about a half hour from 2 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: now and intrepid Caroleven reporter Lou Regoose Lou Regoose will 3 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: be with us at five point fifteen and we'll try 4 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: to get the answer to the question I posed earlier 5 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: in the program. See if for you've got some Caroleven connections. 6 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: Do you know if Lou Ragoose is his real name 7 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: or a TV name? 8 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: I thought it was his real name. I guess I've 9 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: never asked him. 10 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: He's a great name for he is a tremendous reporter. 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: Yes, is tremendous reporter. 12 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 4: Great guy. 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 5: Kids are Uh. 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: I guess I shouldn't say where they go to school, 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: but they it's a familiar spot and uh and yeah, no. 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 6: He's great lou Regoose. 17 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it could easily be a stage name, but 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the bottom. 19 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 4: Going to be disappointed if it's his real name. I know, 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 4: because it's very creative. Stage name's tremendous. I mean, justose, 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 4: you don't even need the lou exactly what it's like his 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: buddy Bloom, you know basketball, the buddies they coached together, 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 4: Bloom and Regoose. 24 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 6: It's like a great law firm. 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: That would actually be that also be a really good 26 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: intrepid you know, investigative journalism duo. 27 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 6: Were Bernstein like Bloomgoose dot com? Or does Regoose and 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 6: Bloom sound better Bloom and Regoose. I think Regoose and 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 6: Bloom trips off the top of it. 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's true. 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 6: I'm true. 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna read you a quote that I 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: I I don't know how I missed this, but I 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: want you to translate it into English from KOC. I 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: think at times guys try to and maybe it is 36 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: the moment, and it's if it's authentic in the moment, 37 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: fire away have at it. 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 6: But we don't need to exhaust any energy. 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: Our jobs are hard enough already trying to be somebody 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: else or trying to play to some sort of persona, 41 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. Let's just go back to work, man, 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: Let's just go back to work and try to get 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: better every single day. I mean, that's almost word for 44 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: word what I said on the air about three weeks ago. 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: For God's sake, when did did KOC say this? And 46 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: what do we make of it? 47 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: So that was actually I think that was today with 48 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: Paul allen. 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: Okay, even better on my apologies for not listening. I 50 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: heard earlier portions of PA, but not that part. 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 3: Yeah no. 52 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: And so that was today. And I believe that PA 53 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: had mentioned some along lines of this idea of the 54 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: nine personality that that McCarthy brought up and that you know, 55 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: and kind of left it, you know, threw it over 56 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: to O'Connell. 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 5: You know, where are you at with that? Or what 58 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 5: do you think? 59 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: And and O'Connell said that the big, ye know, the 60 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: big thing he wants people to do is be themselves, 61 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: especially at the quarterback position, so that players know that 62 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: who you are, you know, you're authentic, you're being true 63 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 2: to yourself, maken sense when you're not, there's no reason 64 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 2: to kind of try to play to a persona. There's 65 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: no reason to create that level of kind of he 66 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: didn't use this word, but like fictionalized drama or whatever 67 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: around you. And and he didn't even say that that's 68 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: what McCarthy had done, because he did then turn around 69 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: and say like if that really is who you are, 70 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: then let's have that and let's go. But the big 71 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: thing is I think O'Connell made pretty clear like like 72 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: that's let's just not go there anymore. 73 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 5: Let's not. 74 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: You know, reference nine, let's not create those meme mug 75 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: memes that had sort of populated the internet, you know, 76 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: prior to or I think was after that, that the 77 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: Detroit game, and let's just get back to work, let's 78 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: just play football, and and so that in that regard, 79 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: it was pretty typical of what a lot of coaches 80 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: a lot older than Kevin O'Connell would often say, is 81 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: you know, like, let's let's kind of not let's let's 82 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: cut the nonsense if there is in fact nonsense going on, 83 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: and let's just. 84 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 5: Be football players. 85 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: That's pool I would argue, that's pointed by his standards, though, 86 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean it was, you. 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: Know, and to be clear, like he gave himself an 88 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: outlet if that's the authentic you know him, than it is. 89 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: But like he may, like I think any human being 90 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: listening to that would or reading it or hearing even 91 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: a paraphrase, would agree that that was probably not O'Connell's 92 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: favorite kJ mccark moment of the season, as short lived 93 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: as it was, you know, and it like he made 94 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: like he happened after one game and he mentioned it. Yeah, 95 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: it was It was a response to a question about 96 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: how he kind of responds to competitive moments, and and 97 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: it's probably going to stick with him for a long time, 98 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: if not forever. But it wasn't like it was a 99 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: weekly thing that he was, you know, creating or talking 100 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: about or being asked about by us. 101 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, all that's true, but it left its mark beaus. 102 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: As we said before, the sequencing is all is all right, 103 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: there's plenty of time for the mythology to build the mythology. First, 104 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: you got to do the stuff that we associate with mythology, 105 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: and then you can you can invent all kinds of stuff, 106 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: and you guys will write it all out longhand Man, 107 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, every every word. You'll milk the 108 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: hell out of it because that's that's sort of the 109 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: the nature of the of the business. By the end 110 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: of the season, by the end of the seventeen game 111 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: regular season, the number one team in the NFC North 112 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: will be in what. 113 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 5: City the past in Green Bay, Wisconsin. 114 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: I man, I'm telling you I think that, and you 115 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 2: asked me that a couple of weeks ago. I think 116 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: and I have finally become consistent believers in the Packers 117 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: and I know they only squeaked by the Bears and 118 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: they lost Eagles two weeks ago or three weeks ago, 119 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: whenever it was. But I just think when you can 120 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: play defense like that and they still are playing really 121 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: good defense, the Bears have a good offense, you know, 122 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 2: that's that's what will take you a long way through 123 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: the playoffs and so into the playoffs stretch and then 124 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: into the playoffs. 125 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 5: And so I could be proven wrong. 126 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: The Lions might somehow overcome the Bears, might beat the 127 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: Packers when they have the rematch of Soldier Field. But 128 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: if I had to have felt this way for a 129 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: few weeks, if I had to pick a best of 130 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: that three, that I really do think the Packers are 131 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: the most balanced team offense defense, and they have the 132 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: best their defense is the best unit on either side 133 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: of the ball. 134 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: Of any of those times you get they hit the 135 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: key point, they're the most balanced team. And I mean, look, 136 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: I thought Jordan Love regressed a little bit last year, 137 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: but he's been big time this year. 138 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 5: Man. 139 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: I think it's twenty two touchdown passes, four interceptions. Now, again, 140 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: the Bears left some people open for some explosives, as 141 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: you guys call. 142 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 6: Them in the business that last game. 143 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: But he to me, what he's managed to do is 144 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: continue to fling it a little bit without being quite 145 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: as reckless. He threw it one pick I think and 146 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: the Bears in that game. But he's only got I think. 147 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: I said, like I said, four interceptions for the season. 148 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: He's playing really well. 149 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the funny thing is, like, and we say 150 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: balanced and really to the extent that there's been criticism 151 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: of the Packers offensively and of Matt Laford's that they've 152 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: been relying too much on the running game and they 153 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: should just. 154 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 5: Let Jordan Love cook. 155 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: But that's kind of left out the analysis that maybe 156 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: the reason he's cooking is that they're not asking him 157 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: to throw at forty five I have fifty times a 158 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: game or whatever that would be. If you're just letting 159 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: your quarterback cook, that like that balance might actually be 160 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: helping him be productive and the times he is throwing. 161 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 5: So I yeah, I. 162 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: Think that you know, we'll see where how they to 163 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: what extent they shift as they get into this final 164 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: playoff stretch and get into the playoffs. If that's the 165 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: way it stays, or if they go with a hot 166 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: hand or what have you. But he's definitely playing the 167 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: way you would want him to be playing in December, 168 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: and they've got a roster that's pretty well equipped for 169 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: that time of year as well. 170 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: Three PostScript texts regarding the fiftieth anniversary of the Hail 171 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: Mary play, which you are apparently going to chronicle. 172 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 6: Dropping tomorrow. You said, yes, it's even better, that's the plan. 173 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 6: Let me read these three. One of them came in 174 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 6: via X. 175 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: Forget Gary Anderson and Blair Walsh, forget the Brett favv 176 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: Iron t. The Pearson push off was not only the 177 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: start of the Vikings hecks, it cost the Vikings the 178 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: best chance to win a Super Bowl. I was in 179 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: high school at the time, and I will carry this 180 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: to my grave. Another texture. I was there in seventy five, 181 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: we were about to rush the field. I saw the 182 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: whiskey bottle fly. Last thing I remember were the brawls 183 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: in the parking lot. A friend of mine tried to 184 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: market the Nerf whiskey bottle after that incident. And lastly, 185 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: I hadn't heard this one before, or maybe you cover 186 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: it in the story that will drop tomorrow. What bugged 187 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: me about that play was not the push off, but 188 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: that Allan Page was absolutely tackled by an offensive lineman, 189 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: that there was no flag for holding. That's what Bud 190 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: got hot about after the game. I am seventy seven 191 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: years old and I remember it like yesterday. 192 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: So we didn't cover that. Somebody had mentioned that, And 193 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: if you watch the film carefully, you see a defensive 194 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: lineman go down. I don't remember it being Alan Page, 195 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: though I thought it was one of the defensive tackles, 196 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: like maybe it was Mark molleniy or and that was 197 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: part of it, like it was hard to see exactly 198 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: who it is. But somebody else brought that up to that, 199 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: like it never even shouldn't the ball. It shouldn't have 200 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: mattered whether there was mush off or not, because you 201 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: had a takedown. And you know, to the extent that 202 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: officials let people play now in certain high leverage situations, 203 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: I think back then they allowed it even more. And 204 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: so you know, maybe the strategy is commit the penalty 205 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: and challenge the rest to. 206 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: Make the call. 207 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 5: It's just the best best approach to. 208 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: Take in those situations, especially in nineteen seventy five. 209 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: We will look forward to the piece dropping tomorrow. Thanks 210 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: as always, and we'll then thanks for the preview today. 211 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: You ended up giving giving us a very nice preview, 212 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure, without giving away the best stuff to appear 213 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: in that story. 214 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: Well, if there is a good best stuff, I guess 215 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: everybody will be the judge of that. 216 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: Any chance you could just do a quick video for 217 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 4: ESPN dot com summarizing the stories so I don't have 218 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 4: to read it all nine seconds. 219 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe we did. You never know. 220 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: If you go to YouTube the NFL Films thing, you 221 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 2: go to about the one forty five mark, you can 222 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 2: watch the whole thing in about twenty seconds. 223 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: So thank you even better, thank you. Enjoy the stronami. 224 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: Kevin Seffert EESPN dot com, Sam Mitchell in about fifteen 225 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: minutes forty five years ago, yesterday, forty five years ago. 226 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: Last night, John Lennon was murdered outside of his residence 227 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: apartment building the Dakota And we've played in previous anniversaries, 228 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: the Howard Cosell announcement on Zar Call Monday night football 229 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: game late in that game, confirming that murder. I can 230 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: still remember watching that broadcast live in my little apartment 231 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: in Smyrna, Georgia, just outside Atlanta. Horrific occasion, and Dan 232 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: Minnesota noted that the next day, so forty five years 233 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: ago today, in the Minneapolis Star, there were two stories 234 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: in the cover, one with the headline tell me it 235 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: isn't true, says Lennon's wife, Say Lenin's wife and fans. 236 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: That looks like a news services story, and underneath that 237 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: a John Breem column. Our guy John Breem Lenin led 238 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: life as Beatles magical mystery man. He's listed here as 239 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: rock critic John Bream. I had the fortune of meeting 240 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: three of the four Beatles. Maybe it was fitting that 241 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: I never met John Lennon. He was the Beatles mystery man. 242 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: Beatlemaniacs may have thought once thought Paul McCartney was dead, 243 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: but they know he has been merely writing silly little 244 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: love songs. Meanwhile, Ringo Starr has been drumming his way 245 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: into the movies, and George Harrison has been searching for 246 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: the perfect guru. But where has John Lennon been? What 247 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: have he and partner Yoko Ono been doing in seclusion 248 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: for the past five years? And why has this once prolific, 249 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: once revolutionary artists become an inscrutable nowhere man for so long? 250 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: And it goes on from there, he notes, does bream 251 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: I think you know fairly rightly that if it hadn't 252 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: been for Lenin's guiding, artistic and intellectual vision, the Beatles 253 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: may never have been the musical and culture of four 254 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: whise they became. John Lennon certainly rivaled Bob Dylan is 255 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: the most important pop music figure of the nineteen sixties. 256 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: In a whal McCartney provided the Beatles tune full pop underbelly. 257 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: It was his songwriting partner Lennon who gave the quartet 258 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: it's rock and roll edge. McCartney admired the vocal harmonies 259 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: of the Everly Brothers and the toe tapping pop of 260 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Buddy Holly, whereas Lennon was affected by the raw music 261 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: of Elvis Presley, Little Richard and other American stars. I 262 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: meant to get to that late yesterday because Dan want 263 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: a soda pass that along to us. But better in 264 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: this case late than never. Real quick, I've got do 265 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: we have a Winter Olympic sounder? 266 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: Yet? 267 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 6: No? We could get one. 268 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: If we want one. Well, I guess we could think 269 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: about it. For this story. 270 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 4: We get the iHeart Approved Olympics. Remember when we got that? 271 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: I wonder if I could find that. 272 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it's possible. I'm sure some of you have heard 273 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: about this, but maybe others not that so much via 274 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: the athletic The late scrambled to get the hockey venues 275 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: ready for the Milan Courtina Olympics may have the NF 276 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: NHL concerned in the hockey world talking, but it doesn't 277 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: come as a surprise to those who were on the 278 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: ground the last time NHL players traveled to Italy for 279 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: the Winter Games. 280 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 6: Stand By, Oh that's urgent. Yeah, yeah, very urgent. I 281 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 6: love the horns. That's nice. Got a longer one too, 282 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 6: that's good. That's really good. That's the one we played 283 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 6: it back today. 284 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: Yes, twenty years ago in Turin, construction delays went right 285 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: down to the wire and left no time to stage 286 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: a proper test event. In fact, organizers didn't found themselves 287 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: cruelly reconfiguring a section of the lower Bowl at Plassport 288 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: Olympico in the months before those games because of a 289 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: critical miscalculation in design. We realized that the big door 290 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: where there's the where the zamboni is driving it, it's 291 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: too small, so they had to carve the stands off 292 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: to get it done. So this might be history repeating itself. 293 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it sounds as if there is 294 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: a the rink's too short problem. The Santa Guilla Arena 295 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: in Milan is being built on an even tighter timeframe 296 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: than the main venue in touring was. Shovels hadn't been 297 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: put in the ground as recently as December twenty twenty three, 298 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: and the level of warrior has only grown since. When 299 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: NHL employees toward the building in August, it was a 300 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: complete construction zone, none of the infrastructure completed, including roads 301 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: to the area or the arena, and the practice rink 302 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: hadn't even been started. We're still it appeared only a 303 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: middle amount of work was even happening toward the end 304 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: of summer. NHL also wasn't encourage for the update to 305 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: receive during a facilities update this past Friday, according to 306 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: Lee's sources, and recently sent more staff to Italy to 307 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: assist with the project on the ground. 308 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 6: The list of outstanding. 309 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: Issues yes INCLUDESI the fact that the floor of the 310 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: building is currently covered in construction materials, preventing the bores 311 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: from being anchored, which allows ice production to begin. It's 312 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: too late to change the dimensions of the playing service 313 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 1: of the games just two months away. The IHF Internet 314 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: I should say IIHF International Ice Hockey Federation confirmed Monday 315 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: that the rink will be one ninety six point eighty 316 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 1: five feet by eighty five point three feet, more than 317 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: three feet shorter than the NHL stat are two hundred 318 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: feet by eighty five feet layout, and also much narrower 319 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: than the international standard. 320 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 6: By ninety eight point four feet. 321 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: But the league staff is working with organizers to try 322 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: to reduce the impact of the smaller service by accounting 323 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: for the difference in the neutral zone. Wow, and keep 324 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: in mind, the women's tournament is schedul to begin Feb. 325 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: Five. 326 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 6: The men's tournament is scheduled to begin Feb. 327 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 4: Eleven. That's right around the corner. I know, I've seen 328 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 4: rumblings of this the last Yeah, it's not good. Handful 329 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 4: of days. Was anybody threatened to pull out? 330 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: Yet? 331 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 6: Has it gotten to that point? 332 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 4: I thought it was a safety concerned I thought I 333 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 4: saw a NHL guy just within the last few days 334 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: said we're not doing this if this is how it is. 335 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 6: I thought I saw that unless it was an overreaction 336 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 6: on me and well, I wonder if they mean it. 337 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: That's the old We're gonna try to put as much 338 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: pressure and possible as possible to put to scare them 339 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: into somehow finding a way to get this thing done 340 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: one time. 341 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 6: We'll have to ask Louis about it tomorrow. 342 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 4: I'm sure he has a story of how he had 343 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 4: to call and they had to call Dick Ames and 344 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 4: they brought in their own construction crew and figure out 345 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: how to do it. 346 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 6: Are we done? We are? 347 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: Whoa? 348 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 4: This is the long version, This is the long ones, 349 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 4: so maybe this could be the open This is nice 350 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 4: and then the short one. Very maest on the way out. Yeah, yeah, 351 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: it was good, very majestic. 352 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 6: That's feeling it. Yeah, I'm feeling the Olympics. 353 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: Let's find out if Sam Mitchell is feeling the twenty 354 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty six Minnesota Timberwolves. 355 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 6: He is coming up next. 356 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 3: Man. 357 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: Questions for Sam Mitchell hit the branch on Brian kfan 358 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: text line six four six eighty six, and that just 359 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: might be your lucky day. We'll see how it goes. 360 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: Sam joins us via the Connectico Water Systems hotline. Been 361 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: way too long since we've bugged you and had you 362 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: on the air. But it's good to have you back, 363 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: and I hope you're doing well. 364 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 3: Man, I heard that temperature of van I'm like. 365 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's been a harsh last It was a great fall, 366 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: but it's been followed by a very rapid descent into 367 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: Minnesota winter. 368 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: Hell, dude, the only good thing. I was in my 369 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: Dinnis office yesterday and they had all these pictures up 370 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: of a white Christmas and I was telling the lady 371 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: door cleaning my teeth. I remember those days. Now. I 372 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: do miss wa up on Christmas, even Christmas morning with 373 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 3: the snow and the fireplace and all. 374 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 6: The Christmas life. 375 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, because being from the South, Betty, is something that 376 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 3: you know, you see on television and the winter time 377 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: of North, but you never experienced. And so having the 378 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: experience that and my children having the chance to experience that, 379 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 3: I always appreciate that. 380 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: Well, you're in the best of You got the best 381 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: of both worlds now because you don't have to live 382 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: in it every day, but you can come back to visit, 383 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: you know, something the wolves related anytime you'll want, right, 384 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: that's the beauty of it, so you can get a 385 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: taste of it. 386 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 3: I wait too, is more above freezing than those teams. 387 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: I understand. I can't argue with you about it. I 388 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: don't think guards you'll argue with you about that either. 389 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: All right, where should we begin? I do want to 390 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: you know. The part of the reason I wanted you 391 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: on is I think I've told you this before. When 392 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: a team is in your market and you're watching them 393 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: and paying attention to them constantly, you sometimes can get 394 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: a little lost in the weeds. And so I always 395 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: want to hear what people who are connected like you 396 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: are very connected, but still outside of a little bit 397 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: looking in what they see that we might be missing 398 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: because we're in it every day. So Wolves are what 399 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: I think, twenty four games in now, and that's a 400 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: decent sample size. 401 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, they kind of who they are. 402 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I exactly and I'm not overwhelmed so far. 403 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: But I want to get your view of what you 404 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: see from your seat when you watch them right now. 405 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of weird with the NBA, man, because 406 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: I was talking to somebody about this day and it 407 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 3: gave kind of like two seasons. You have the regular 408 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 3: season teams that can win a lot of games in 409 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: the regular season, and then those same teams sometimes the 410 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: way they're built to win games in the regular season, 411 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: but if they get the wrong matchup in the playoffs, 412 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: they get exposed. And I go back to the Lake, 413 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 3: because I mean, you look at what the Lakers are 414 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: doing right now, it's crazy. But you also have to 415 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: remind yourself that come playoff time, they have Luca, Lebron 416 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: and Austin Reeves out them on the four, three guys 417 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 3: who are not the greatest defenders, and you kind of 418 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: pick on those guys, but now you look at them 419 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 3: in the regular season and man, Austin Reeves looked like 420 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: an MVP candidate. I'm watching the game against the Raptors. Yeah, 421 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 3: and the Raptors are trapping him at the end of 422 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 3: the game, leaving Lebron James open. So but again you 423 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 3: see that and you look at what the Lakers are. 424 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: But then you turn around and if the Lakers and 425 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: the timber Wolves play in the first round, you can 426 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: make the argument to pick the timber Wolves because again, 427 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: when it comes time to really play and they get 428 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 3: dirty and the gate crime and everybody take it to 429 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 3: another level, the Lakers do have three guys that just 430 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 3: are not good defenders. 431 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's undeniable. You're right, and that's that. 432 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: They're kind of hard to judge this NBA. Other than 433 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 3: Okay Seed, it's kind of hard to judge everybody else. 434 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fair. 435 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: Let me ask you about more specific Let's droll down 436 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: a little bit more about the team, because basically the 437 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: decision was made much too. I think the shock of 438 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: Mike Conley literally like right before the start of the 439 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: regular season, We're gonna bring Mike off the bench. We're 440 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: gonna start Dante and we have Mike on about once 441 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: a month, and he said, look, I you know, I 442 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: didn't expect it necessarily, but I get it. 443 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 6: I'm a team player. 444 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: I understand the idea behind it, and now you know, 445 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: I want to play, but I'll. 446 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 6: I'll deal with it. 447 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: And what it looks to me like is and a 448 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: guy I think you have gotten to know pretty well. 449 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: John Krasinski has basically written, well, in all honesty, Anthony 450 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: Edwards is this team's point guard. And I think that's 451 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: largely true most of the time. I still am not 452 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: convinced it's the best way in a perfect world to 453 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: use Anthony, and that they're doing it this way more 454 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: out of necessity than out of what they really want 455 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: to do. So how do you assess I guess the 456 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: offense with Anthony really as a de facto point guard, 457 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: especially when you know on the occasion when Mike Conley's 458 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: not even on the floor. 459 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 3: Look, I don't mind seeing Anthony with the ball, laving 460 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: games and incrusion situations because you know he can espacially 461 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 3: pick and roll because he's going to what's a double team, 462 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 3: he can split a double team. He can create a 463 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 3: mismatch for a lot of people. But in the regular season, 464 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: I think it gives me pause because again, he's stuck 465 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 3: between do I be aggressive? Am I shooting too much? 466 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: Do I get guys and bothering? I think right now 467 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 3: it's about necessity. But my big question what about the 468 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 3: kid they drafted two years ago to be the up 469 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: parent to beat up parent starter for Mike Culling. Because look, 470 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 3: I'm a Mike Cony fan. I respect Mike Collor, but look, man, 471 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: you long in the tooth. You can't guard the position 472 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 3: like you used to, and you know in the playoffs, man, 473 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: it was hard to watch. So I get it. I 474 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: get why they're kind of playing answer me at that position, 475 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: but I don't think they can be at their best 476 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: when Anthony has the ball consistently and he has to 477 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: decide do I be aggressive and score or do I 478 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 3: pass to make because the teammates better. 479 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 6: I agree with you. 480 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: Now. 481 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: Last night the change finch went with was he sat 482 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: Dillingham completely and he used Bones Highland h and Hyland 483 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: actually had a good game. But with all due respect 484 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: to Bones Highland, I don't think he can be the 485 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: big change and that you're going to go anywhere with that, 486 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, night after night when you're playing the best 487 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: team in the league. So the Dillingham mystery is it 488 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: hasn't He hasn't meshed with whatever Finchy's trying to do, 489 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: and he has shown more limitations than. 490 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 6: I thought he would. 491 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer is, Sam, because as 492 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, you could say, well you just got to 493 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: keep playing him because he's got to get those minutes. 494 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: But I think Finchy's frustrated enough with him that he said, well, 495 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: at least for now, we're going to go another direction, 496 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: which means I'm not sure you can count on Dillingham 497 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: making a big jump at all this season to fill 498 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: the role that you're talking about. 499 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: Well, if not now, when and if that's not the case, 500 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 3: and you got to go get somebody. The question is 501 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: a tough part, Dan. This is what Timmillo was like 502 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: a lot of other team's gonna have to look in 503 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: the east, in the West and look in the mirror. 504 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: What do you do with OKC Do you just give 505 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 3: in and just give them the next eight to ten 506 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: years of winning or do you try to put together 507 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 3: a team that can play with them and a team 508 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 3: to play with them. You got to have depth, You 509 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: got to have unselfish people. You got to have people 510 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: that fits into their roles and accept their roles. Man, 511 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 3: it's scary because okay See is still the youngest team, 512 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 3: and I know when those contracts kick in next year, 513 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: they're gonna have to make some decisions. But the last 514 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 3: time I checked, they got about three or four first 515 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 3: round picks languishing in the G League that's looking for 516 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 3: an opportunity to play. And oh, by the way, look 517 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: at the treasure's roll of a picks they got still 518 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 3: hoarded away, so they can actually go out and make 519 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 3: some deal. You know, everybody's talking about where shijanis go 520 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 3: I tell people this all the time. The only team 521 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 3: that really has the picks to go get a Jannis 522 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 3: is okay see. But if I was okay, see Dad, 523 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 3: I would go get Zuba for this reason. Yeah, Zuba 524 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 3: plays the best defense against who the joker good? And 525 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 3: if you're okay, see, the only team right now that 526 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: make it beat you in the Western Conference is Denver. 527 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: So why not go get the guy that can guard 528 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 3: him the best? And you have the assets to do it, 529 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 3: and you got a guy in his slot right now 530 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 3: that you can slide on over with a bunch of 531 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 3: pigs in Hart's time and make this thing work. And 532 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: it looks kind of seamless. 533 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 6: I again agree. 534 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: I hate to agree with you again, but I one 535 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: hundred percent I don't even understand why you'd want to 536 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: as good as Giannis is throw somebody that dominant into 537 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: the mix with what you have going. I think your 538 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: move is a lot more subtle, but extremely effective. 539 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 3: Well, the specific think about this, if Giannis goes to 540 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 3: Houston or to San Antonio Spurs, do you now you're 541 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 3: going to have to Now you gotta beat them to 542 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 3: get out the West right. So again, man, and that's 543 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 3: something that Sam pressed the guy decide he may have 544 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 3: to do a deal to stop a guy like Jannis 545 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: going to someone like Houston or San Antonio. Can you 546 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 3: imagine Victor and Giannis on the floor together in San 547 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: Antonio man with the rest of that young talent. 548 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a little scary, that's for sure. 549 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: So if the Wolves have to look outside, would you 550 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: dare to entertain a jah Moran exploration? Is there another 551 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: name you say that's less volatile? But might it still 552 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: be effective for the team? What are you hearing in 553 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: that regard who might be available at the position and 554 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: you think might be. 555 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: I hear John. But for me, the biggest concern with 556 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: Jai is the size. Now you put John to start 557 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: in line up in Anthony with an Anthony, it look 558 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: he's a tremendous athlete, but he's on the smaller size 559 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: of two guards. When you look at what gets him 560 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: over is his bulk. His strengths is athleticism. And then 561 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: you throw job. Can you get away with it with 562 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert? Yeah? I thought it would be easier to 563 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: get away with it when you have Rudy a call 564 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: out there. I don't know what Rudy and the way 565 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: the lineup is now, I don't know, man. I look, 566 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: you may not have a choice but to try to 567 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: do something like this, because right now, can you what 568 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: can you do to beat Okac? That's the question you 569 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: got to ask, what can you do to give yourself 570 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: a punch's chance to compete with Okac? Because they're not 571 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: going anywhere they are They're going to be good for 572 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: the next five, six, seven years, and so you're either 573 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 3: gonna fold or you're gonna try to figure out a 574 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 3: way to improve your team to where you can compete 575 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: with them. 576 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: Could you get There's two names that have surfaced, not 577 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: because there's any reporting to indicate there's discussions, but more 578 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: basketball guys are looking at the Wolves deed and saying, well, 579 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: these guys might be interesting. Whether it's realistic to get 580 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: either one of them? Do the name Kyrie Irving or 581 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: James Harden do anything? Or is that both? Is it 582 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: at landish in both cases to think there'd be any 583 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: chance to get them, or. 584 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: I would say I would go with Kyrie Irvin. James 585 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 3: scares me. Is the age one two? His track record 586 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: in the playff just have it played well in the 587 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 3: biggest moments in the playoffs, and you look at Kyrie. 588 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: He's had some of his shining moments in the playoffs 589 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 3: and winning the championship. So I would then look, if 590 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: you could get Kyrie Irvin and get him healthy and 591 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: put him in the back court with Anthony Edwards and 592 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: the rest of that team, a guy who's won a championship, 593 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 3: who's who's been there, done that. That gives you a chance. 594 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 3: But the question, now, if you're gonna go get Kyrie Irvan, 595 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: what are you gonna have to give up? Obviously you'll 596 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: have to give up a lot less to get James Harden. 597 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: But does James Harden get you there against Okac? Because 598 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: my question would be can he guard the position at 599 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: his age and with wear and tell in his body? 600 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 6: Those are fair points. 601 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: I like this version of hard and better than the 602 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: earlier version because I think he's become more interested. He 603 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: seems less interested in scoring and more on he's willing 604 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: to distribute. But that the playoffs is sitting there looming, 605 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: because as you say, he's had some really stinking stinker 606 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: games when it counts in the playoffs. 607 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 3: Could he be a knock down, spot up shooter for Anthony? 608 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 3: It was because obviously you put Anthonet with you know 609 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: he's gonna draw attention. Yes, and you got James to 610 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: know that. And if you kick it to James, he 611 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: could knock down the shot or he could create himself. Yes, 612 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: But my question of James is what thirty seven? So again, 613 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 3: it'll be a short time fix, short term fix, and 614 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: then what do you do a year or two after that? 615 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: I think if you're the Wolfs, you gotta find a 616 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 3: permanent solution and you got to start trying to build 617 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: a team that can compete with Okay, see if not, 618 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna use this term, but what does Anthony 619 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 3: Awards do for the next five, six, seven years? Looking 620 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 3: at OKC. 621 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: That's fair, Sam Mitchell kind enough to join us. Don't forget. 622 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: We got Lure Goose coming up at about five fifteen, 623 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: after the top five at five leaving a well, let's 624 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: just talk. Maybe I'll ask the question this way. The 625 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: best team in the Eastern Conference is. 626 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: Ooh, man, I was looking at that. It is the 627 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 3: East is kind of crazy, I steal right now. From 628 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 3: a talent standpoint, I would go with the Knicks start 629 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 3: in six because they can score. But the problem with 630 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: them is defensively they could be allied. You would expect 631 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: Cleveland to have jumped up and taken the rain, but 632 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: they're struggling right now with physicality and injuries and things 633 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: of that nature. Man, right now, I would probably say 634 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: the Detroit Pistons. 635 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 6: Ooh yeah, they're enough to watch. 636 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: The young athletic K cutting Ham is the closest thing 637 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 3: we're going to have to an American player being MVP 638 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 3: anytime soon. 639 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, would be nice to have it. 640 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: I mean, hey, look, at least he's gonna take uh, 641 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: the guy from Boston who's hurt right now, he'll take 642 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: his place on first team All NBA. At least we're 643 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: still getting the Maritatum. At least we're still getting the 644 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: American first team All NBA. But man, the MVP between Shaye, 645 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 3: between Luca, between the Joker, I mean, dude, winn as 646 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: an American player who's close the only guy's closest. K 647 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 3: Cuttingham right now, Well. 648 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: You're you're My producer is reminding us, what about Anthony Edwards? 649 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 3: Well, sixteed players don't win MVP. When you're six seed 650 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: and you got the Joker putting up the numbers, he got, 651 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 3: you got Luca putting up the numbers he got and 652 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 3: you got Shaye putting up their numbers. So those two 653 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: teams are what one, two or three something like that, 654 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 3: and you're sixth. 655 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 6: I have not heard you on the Chris Paul saga. 656 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: And man, a lot of people tell me that, you know, 657 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: it's easy to be angry with the Clippers, but that 658 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: Chris Paul went. If Chris Paul is a great player, 659 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: you can deal with all the other stuff that is 660 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: Chris Paul. But if he's not and he's yelling at 661 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,479 Speaker 1: people as the eleventh guy and the twelfth guy, people 662 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: aren't going to accept it the same way. 663 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 6: So where do you fall on the whole Chris Paul deal. 664 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 3: Look, I think it's unfortunate, but look, Chris Paul a 665 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 3: great player. You have to read the room and you 666 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: have to understand the people and the team. When Chris 667 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: Paul was would okay see a young team? You can 668 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 3: get into young guys because they don't know, yes, right, 669 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 3: they haven't been around, they don't know it's Chris Paul. 670 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: So whatever Chris Paul say, they're going to react to 671 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 3: it in a positive way. Right, A better a team 672 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 3: that's losing, that underachieving hard man, Those guys are stuck 673 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 3: in their ways down I tell people this all the time. 674 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 3: Given the choice between a young team and an age 675 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 3: and veteran team, I take the young team all day. 676 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 3: Coaching the older team is a pain in the ass, man, 677 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 3: because all those guys, they know the game, they've been around, 678 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: they're stuck in their ways, and they're gonna question everything 679 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: that you want to do. A same and think about 680 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 3: Chris Paul. Chris Paul is used to having a latitude 681 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 3: of going around being able to say things to guys 682 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 3: and man, look, it's tough. Look I understand that. I 683 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 3: hate it for Chris Paul. But at the end of 684 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: the day, if you're the Clippers and a guy is 685 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: just making life unbearable, but not only the coaching staff, 686 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 3: but the players and the organization, the Clippers had to 687 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 3: do what they had to do. I put the onus 688 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 3: more on Chris Paul because he didn't read the room. 689 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 3: Think about this, Think about how hard it was for 690 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 3: the Clippers to make this decision, going through all the 691 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 3: things the organization dealing with right now on and off 692 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 3: the court, all the Kawhi Lillard situation, all the stuff 693 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 3: with Bomber, and now Chris Paul had this great introduction 694 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: when he signed crying on stage, the greatest player in 695 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: clipping history. It got so bad to where the general 696 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 3: manager had to fly to Atlanta and clut him on 697 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 3: the road. So again, I hate that it happened to 698 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 3: Chris Paul, but you know, if you're the clip for organization, 699 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 3: you gotta do what you got to do to try 700 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 3: to maintain or salvage any part of this season that 701 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 3: cad Uh. 702 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: It's quieted down more recently, but I know you've commented 703 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: on it a lot when it was hot. Where is 704 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 1: this betting scandal going? 705 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 3: Do you think, Dann? I don't know, man, because it's 706 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 3: you know, I don't get into it. I'm not a 707 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 3: gambler like that. It's just something that never interests me 708 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 3: that much before. I just find it hard to believe 709 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 3: that NBA players making the money that those guys will 710 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 3: make it. I've said it on and look, I don't 711 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 3: know Terry Roseal, I know Damon Jones a little bit, 712 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 3: but I know Chompson Billips. I don't believe Chanson would 713 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 3: get involved in something like this. Now. Could he have 714 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 3: been duped to show up at a poker game? And 715 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 3: play and then kind of look around the room and 716 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 3: see how maybe I need to go. Yeah, could he 717 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 3: have shown up and played, Yeah, But to say he 718 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 3: sat down with some guys talked about an X ray table, glasses, 719 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 3: all these type of things to cheat people out of 720 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 3: their money, the chance to billips. I know, I just 721 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 3: can't conceive him being a part of something like that. 722 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 3: I believe it when he's proven guilty or he admits 723 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 3: that he did, I just don't. I just can't believe that. Dan, 724 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 3: not the guy that I played with, not the guy 725 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 3: that I spent time with, knowing his children, ing his wife, 726 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 3: knowing his fan. I just can't. But the guy that 727 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 3: I know would not even entertain stuff like that. Get 728 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 3: I mean Dan when we played, even on the few 729 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 3: moments when guys were thinking about doing dumb stuff. Chohnson 730 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 3: was one of the few younger guys. You have to 731 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 3: remember that I was older than those guys. They called 732 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,479 Speaker 3: me uncle, so I didn't necessarily hang out with those 733 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 3: guys own the road and stuff like that. I was 734 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 3: much older. Chohnson was one of those guys in the 735 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 3: group with the young guys that would always kind of 736 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 3: poor guys toy like now it's time to go. 737 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is interesting. Well, we'll see how We'll see 738 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: how the thing plays out. As we wrap things up, 739 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: Let's bring a full circle back to the Wolves. As 740 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, they brought back most of the team from 741 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: a year ago, so the continuity existed this time around, 742 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: but they ultimately let Nikhil Alexander Walker go. 743 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, he's been a god send here in Atlanta. 744 00:38:59,360 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 3: He is playing. 745 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: But that's why I wanted to ask, because I don't 746 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you can't re sign everybody, and I 747 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: get that, and I'm not going to pretend I was 748 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: clamoring for them to keep him, but I will say, Sam, 749 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: they haven't replaced him what he represented at his best. 750 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 6: And you know, I just you're in here. 751 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: I know you're in the Atlanta area, So tell me 752 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: about how well he is because from afar, it looks 753 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: like he's been outstanding for them. 754 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 3: Question they need to be signed Tray Young after the season. 755 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 3: I mean, that's how good. Now it's gonna come down 756 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 3: to can they win enough, can they make plays? But 757 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 3: you think about what he brings. He's a six six 758 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 3: point guard that can shoot the three, and he's defensive minded. 759 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 3: So think about when at certain stance of the game, 760 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 3: when you had him at Anson the atlas on the floor. Yes, 761 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 3: Anthony a physical defender, not tall, but strong like Donovan Mitchell, 762 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 3: bigger than Donovan Mitchell. And then you look at Nikil 763 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 3: at six six sixty six and a half. That made 764 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 3: to a very very good defensive team. And then with 765 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert there, Look, I gotta ask you, this is 766 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 3: there any way could they have resigned him? 767 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: Well here's I think I believe it was going to 768 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: cost them second Apron if there was a way to 769 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: do it. 770 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 6: But here's what what what I just remembered. 771 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 3: Well, while they asked you a question, why do you 772 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 3: have to keep giving Rudy Gobert all this funny? Well, 773 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 3: I mean, why take a haircut? 774 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: Well yeah, they all felt that way last night because 775 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: he had a stupid flavorant too. But you know, this 776 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: reminds me last year you brought up ni Kiel. You 777 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: asked me the question on air maybe it was off 778 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't remember which, and you said, what about the 779 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: possibility of Nikiel becoming your number one point guard? And 780 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: I buy some people here like I'm not sure he's 781 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: good enough to be a level But you look at 782 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: it now and you say that's such a crazy proposition 783 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 1: compared to what they're using. 784 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 3: Well, think about it. They had him in the back 785 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 3: court now, then I would say, I would actually say 786 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 3: they would have a punch of hands to play with. Okay, see, 787 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 3: because they're young, they got size. Look, I love my 788 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 3: Conny Man, but he can't defend. He can't defend that position, 789 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 3: especially in the playoffs. 790 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 5: He just can't. 791 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 3: And ni Kill just brings size, he brings shooting, he 792 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 3: brings toughness, and again, like we just said, he's more 793 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 3: defensive minded. So I think, look, look, I like Rudy Goldbert, 794 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 3: but I just think Rudy Man is just making way 795 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 3: too much money. That's money that you could have. 796 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 5: That's some of that money. 797 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 3: Again, not that he shouldn't get paid, but what is 798 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 3: he at almost forty? 799 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 6: I think he's yeah, right in that range. 800 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 5: Extended. 801 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 6: He took a little haircut dirt with the extension shot. 802 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 3: Hey man, he needs to take more of a halfway 803 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 3: because again, I mean, well, okay, think about it. I 804 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 3: would say this is his days of being defensive player 805 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 3: of the Year over well win defensive Player of the Year. 806 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if he can win it, but all 807 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: the all the analytics indicate he's still pretty damn effective defensively, 808 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: and their defense is crappy without them. 809 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,879 Speaker 3: Okay, well right now they're the six seed. 810 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true too. 811 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the teams above them are pretty good. 812 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's all. 813 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 3: You know. I might in this day and age in 814 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 3: the NBA, I might would even take a little bit 815 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 3: more offense, a little bit more defense right now. 816 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, be right, when's your first trip back in here? 817 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: Have you got any plans? 818 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 4: You know? 819 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 1: Now A Rod and the new guys are in charge, 820 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: so I'm assuming you know, they're trying to link up 821 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: with all the old timers, including KG, including you. You 822 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 1: got any big plans anything, any big announcements to make. 823 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 3: They've reached out to us a little bit before the 824 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 3: season about some alumni bentss Okay, he said they're thinking 825 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 3: about doing. They haven't haven't heard anything, but hey, I'm 826 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 3: glad we'll ay ride. I'm ready to come to the game, man, 827 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 3: let's go. 828 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time. I think it's it's more than time 829 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: for sure. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, all those good things. 830 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: If we don't talk before the holidays. Good to catch 831 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: up and we'll bug you again. 832 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 3: Soon, without doubt. 833 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 6: Daddy, Thanks Sam, I appreciate you. 834 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: That's the one and only Sam Mitchell great basketball insight. 835 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 1: Where like I said, we're in this every day. He's 836 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: looking at a lot of teams and I think to 837 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: that extent can give us some fresh perspective on a 838 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: number of issues. Moral of the story is he's not 839 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: feeling the twenty twenty five, twenty six Wolves as currently constituted. 840 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say. He's saying, you got 841 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: Dillingham to be the point guard. Let's go what are 842 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 1: you waiting for? This iteration? I don't think he thinks 843 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: is going to add up, and so we'll see where 844 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: it goes from here. 845 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 4: Top five give you a little Wolves, maybe a little Twins, 846 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 4: and you messed with Zookie at your own peril.