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Speaker 1: To start right out of the gates. Former head of

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Speaker 1: political science at Wright State University. She is professor of Merida.

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Speaker 1: She's a Cincinnati kid. She published the first textbook on

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Speaker 1: terrorism some years ago. And back with Sterling on seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW Doctor Dona Schleg How are you? How are

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Speaker 1: how was everything?

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Speaker 2: Good evening? Looking forward to an interesting week, big anniversary

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Speaker 2: tomorrow at jan sixth.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and of course the.

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Speaker 2: Foreign policy picture just keeps getting more and more interesting.

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Speaker 1: That it does. You know, we spoke a few days

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Speaker 1: looked to be an ISIS sympathizer or ISIS member looking

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Speaker 1: to do harm stateside, which was fantastic news. The local

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Speaker 1: state and the federal authorities were able to put the

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Speaker 1: weeks we talked about increasing naval presence in the part

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Speaker 1: And the talk had been and we had discussed this

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Speaker 1: regime change and how it had gone historically for the

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Speaker 1: Trump of course after actually it was Friday night after

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Speaker 1: we spoke that all of the stuff that went down,

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Speaker 1: which was snatching Maduro, president former of Venezuela, illegitimate as

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Speaker 1: he may have been, and his first lady. They've whisked

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Speaker 1: How surprised were you and how that went down over

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Speaker 2: Surprised? And I think that was clearly you know, the

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Speaker 2: element of surprise was one of the objectives in the administration.

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Speaker 2: It's important to think of what happened though, is just

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Speaker 2: very first step in regime change. The leadership is to

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Speaker 2: capitate him, but all of his people are still running

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Speaker 2: the operation in Venezuela, the military, the economy, etc. So

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Speaker 2: we are in that strange position right now of having

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Speaker 2: as you probably know, Maduro's longtime vice president, but technically

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Speaker 2: in their own constitution they're required to have an election

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Speaker 2: here within thirty days. So imagine imagine the options that

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Speaker 2: their economy. You know, oil, the oil picture is clearly

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Speaker 2: very much at the heart of this. Will they hold

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Speaker 2: an election, Will you know, the party who was denied

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Speaker 2: you know, Will the people of Venezuela turn out in

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Speaker 2: But I think there's tremendous caution that there seems that

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Speaker 2: only is this meant to choke off a lot of

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Speaker 2: but you know, the Colombians are sending troops to their border.

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Speaker 2: President Trump has been speaking about the president of Colombia

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Speaker 2: American foreign policy has turned all of its eyes on,

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Speaker 2: you know, on Latin America. Latin America and Africa were

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Speaker 2: always two of the most neglected parts in our foreign policy.

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Speaker 2: So for it to you know, this this sudden turn,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned it was an operation certainly on the scale

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Speaker 2: of what happened in twenty eleven to take out to

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Speaker 2: Osama bin Laden. He died in the operation and buried

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Speaker 2: at sea. But the element of surprise was clearly very important.

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Speaker 2: What ultimately triggered it seems to have been Maduro's rather

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Speaker 2: have that question, as John Lennon said in his great

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Speaker 2: song about you say you want a revolution, show us

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Speaker 2: the plan, you know, how will we engage her? President

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Speaker 2: Trump seems to have deferred, you know, a lot of

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Speaker 2: by the Chinese and the Russians. The Chinese, of course,

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Speaker 2: by most of Venezuela's oil as well. So this is

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Speaker 2: broad based, but the plan for how Venezuelans, under a

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Speaker 2: very interesting couple of weeks here in this transition. Be

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Speaker 2: maybe a national unity government, we may all be spared

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Speaker 1: Doctor don Ascheles, let me introduce your reintroduce your real

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Speaker 1: quick and I want to touch a couple of things

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Speaker 1: because I know your rolling and bringing out great info.

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Speaker 1: It's doctor Donald schleg former head of political science now

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Speaker 1: Professor Meredith from Wright State, was sterling on the big one.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the oil companies and one still being there

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Speaker 1: and actively engaged. However, you know, deteriorated a lot of

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Speaker 1: you know, vessels can maybe go to. That Obviously, many

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Speaker 1: of our effective enemies are in fact Hungary for and

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Speaker 1: have made deals for clamping down on this part of

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Speaker 1: the world and tightening up those type of things. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that probably in the best interest of this nation and

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Speaker 1: our national security down the line, since we've talked about

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Speaker 1: this other multi level game of chess between the Chinese

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Speaker 1: at what Russia has has been doing also, or is

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Speaker 1: that stretching it a bit?

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's stretching it. I think the concern

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Speaker 2: Certainly that you know, you've heard the many stories about

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Speaker 2: Chinese major naval demonstration in the Caribbean. H where else

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Speaker 2: a major naval action. The Chinese just finished a series

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Speaker 2: how they could absolutely completely choke it off. So it

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Speaker 2: is what is the next step in I think you're right,

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Speaker 2: it is clearly it's the great power game. This is

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Speaker 2: US and China, I think in a proxy conflict in

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Speaker 2: issue keeps nagging at me for us not to take

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Speaker 2: our eye off that one either.

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Speaker 1: Are we in a position to really stretch out and

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Speaker 1: more aggressive than just doing maneuvers in and around Taiwan,

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Speaker 1: which is really a stone's throw from mainland China.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and there is a great question. A lot of

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Speaker 2: we've robbed Peter to pay Paul in terms of our

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Speaker 2: know that the Chinese are basically saying, it's our sphere

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Speaker 2: if you will. This is South America is our sphere

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Speaker 2: of influence. Do you know what that competition has led

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Speaker 2: to historically, just sort of in general Great power war, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 2: boot lots of boots on the ground.

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Speaker 1: As we look at this and a lot of the

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Speaker 1: in this fashion. I mean, where is the line on that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just got into an interesting conversation with

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Speaker 1: and he's like, well, it's against the law, and doctor

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Speaker 1: schlike I simply said, if you have a bigger hammer,

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Speaker 1: then it doesn't really matter effectively who says what the

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Speaker 1: this point. Is that irritating to a lot of people perhaps,

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Speaker 1: But isn't that closer too accurate?

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Speaker 2: I think it's accurate. I think talking the law enforcement

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Speaker 2: done with the former president of Hondur. In fact, it's

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Speaker 2: the same federal prosecutor who drew up the charges in

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Speaker 2: both cases. Interestingly enough, but in terms of international law,

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Speaker 2: international law is basically what we call self enforcing. It

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Speaker 2: gets enforced if people abide by it, and if you

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Speaker 2: why traditionally great power conflicts over resources end up the

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Speaker 2: in war. It's quite a demonstration. And I would also

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Speaker 2: say we might be thinking about the stories we're not

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Speaker 2: talking about right now. Tomorrow's January sixth, that's the five

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Speaker 2: you know, basically in the blink of an eye.

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Speaker 1: That's been for seemingly years now almost and of.

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Speaker 2: Course the nagging Epstein questions, So talk about comletely changing

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Speaker 2: a it's a it's a remarkable demonstration of capacity. But

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Speaker 2: the type of planning that went into this operation Sterling,

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Speaker 2: we don't have the means to control what happens from

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Speaker 2: that you could you know, ask any person in any

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Speaker 1: Is the bottom line go ahead of bottom line is what?

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Speaker 2: Well that that bottom line question? Will the public support this?

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Speaker 2: I'm really reminded of Colin Powell who used to say,

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Speaker 2: you know, you go into pottery barn, you break it,

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Speaker 2: you buy it. We may be if if this thing

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Speaker 2: goes very very badly, we have to consider we've bought

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Speaker 1: Well, what does that really mean? Because we left Afghanistan.

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Speaker 1: and the bottom line is if we get the oil flowing,

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Speaker 1: just seeing these dominoes fall a little bit more, because

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it could come back to really

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Speaker 1: hurt us anyway. We've tightened up the border, we're kicking

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Speaker 1: We're acting in some ways, some would argue elsewhere, and

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Speaker 1: I've had the conversation that we're no different than Russia

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Speaker 1: with Ukraine or some of these others, but we put

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Speaker 1: only reason we didn't do more and haven't done more

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Speaker 1: with Russia is because they've got the nuclear threat, correct.

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Speaker 2: Ah, that nuclear threat. And of course we're not talking

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Speaker 2: about Ukraine Russia either at this point. Are we the

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Speaker 2: idea in Iraq in two thousand and three that Iraqi

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Speaker 1: I heard it?

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Speaker 2: Completely agree. If they're smart, they will be negotiating their

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Speaker 3: Thank you am.

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Speaker 2: Running the country of Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: for making time. I appreciate you being here on a Monday, Sterling.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Sterling, talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Gary Jeff Walker? Is he surfing Venezuela? Is he taking

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Speaker 1: He text merely said, Sterling, you're on then I said yes.

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Speaker 4: I am here, and I am clear eyed, and I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, you got a nice jib cut.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I didn't know you'd noticed.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm here to help.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad I was wearing a low cut T shirt

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Speaker 4: tonight so you could. First and foremost, I have heard

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Speaker 4: coach who won Coach of the Year two times. Secondly, secondly, yes,

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Speaker 3: Just you better stay out. And two hundred and.

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Speaker 4: Two years later, President Trump has established the Monroe doctrine,

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Speaker 3: This is about China.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and it's influenced in Latin America first and

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Speaker 4: This is about keeping China out of the Western hemisphere.

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Speaker 4: I was on the air Saturday morning when this news broke, Sterling,

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Speaker 3: It was his term, Nicholas Maduro.

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Speaker 4: And this is a win win, win, win win, as

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Speaker 4: I said, because once again, Venezuela is not the drug

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Speaker 3: This is not an easy thing to do.

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Speaker 4: It was easy as an executive order and a pen

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Speaker 3: Secondly, the idea.

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Speaker 3: Let's hope they can still sell that oil to China.

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Speaker 1: Well, now, I think the problem you go with that

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Speaker 4: American oil companies actually are responsible for that oil being

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Speaker 4: Unnoticed that they know no longer going to be able

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Speaker 4: The other way it's a win win win for Venezuela

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Speaker 4: No, that that is exactly what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Don't know what's going to happen. That's what they say.

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Speaker 1: That's what we hope happens. But we don't know.

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Speaker 4: We know what the past is. We know what the

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Speaker 4: past is. Sirling, don't interrupt me. Eight million people, a

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Speaker 1: is until the oil is flowing, we don't know how

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Speaker 1: that money is going to flow in that country period.

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Speaker 1: You know that as well as.

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Speaker 4: I We know it's going to flow to the average

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Speaker 4: Venezuela and more than it has in the last twenty years.

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Speaker 3: I hope we know that.

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Speaker 1: I hope they hope it is the case. Also so

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Speaker 1: do I.

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Speaker 4: This is the first and foremost. Again I will state

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Speaker 4: this is about keeping communist China out of our hemisphere.

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Speaker 4: Jaslemen RhE doctrine. We have precedent for it, and it

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Speaker 4: was totally legal to perform a police action with the military.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think our lawmakers are still approval.

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Speaker 3: We didn't.

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Speaker 4: There is no there is nothing in the constitution that

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Speaker 4: says the president cannot.

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Speaker 3: Use military to perform certain acts that are not war.

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Speaker 4: This is not war, and that's what the Constitution requires Congress.

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Speaker 3: To be a part of.

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Speaker 1: And that's any Respectfully, though, listen, man, I'm not disagreeing

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Speaker 1: with the idea that this son of a bitch is

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Speaker 1: good to be gone and good to be prosecuted in

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Speaker 1: the United States, but the idea that Biden, why are

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Speaker 1: you yelling at me all, I'm simply saying to you,

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Speaker 1: stop yelling at me. What is wrong with you? I'm

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Speaker 1: not disagreeing with you both, for God's sake, I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to get a word in as edge wise, and what.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell you.

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Speaker 1: Again, what I'm trying to say to you simply is this,

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Speaker 1: we hope that all the things that have been said

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Speaker 1: come to fruition. But we have had a horrible history

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Speaker 1: of replacing or allowing a change ahead of a nation

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Speaker 1: with our assistance, be it convertly or I'm not using

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Speaker 1: anything in the Middle East, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I'm not. You're not.

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Speaker 1: Where else have we done it successfully?

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Speaker 3: This is not answer the question.

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Speaker 1: I do say it. No one said that, you said it.

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Speaker 1: I'm asking you where have we done it successfully yet? One?

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Speaker 1: Name one?

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Speaker 4: This is this in our in our hemisphere.

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Speaker 1: Just name one country where we have our hemisphere anywhere,

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Speaker 1: name of influence.

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about one anywhere. I'm not talking about

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Speaker 3: the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: You can't name a single one.

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Speaker 3: This is not Vietnam. This is not a racket.

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: You've mentioned all of those. I said, name one single

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Speaker 1: place where we have ousted someone and it has worked

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Speaker 1: in our favor successfully in the next decade to two.

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Speaker 1: Name one.

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Speaker 3: President Trump is a unique dress.

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Speaker 1: You can't answer it because you don't have an example.

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Speaker 4: Because this is not the same thing as those other things.

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Speaker 1: I never said anything about the other things you did.

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Speaker 1: I said, you don't have any history talked about.

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Speaker 4: Where have we done this successfully?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: And it's not about anything we've done before, because anything

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Speaker 4: we've done before, we're on the other side.

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Speaker 1: Of the I'm not disputing his location on Earth. You're

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Speaker 1: still on it. You are unable listen. Man, I love

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Speaker 1: you and I'm glad that this guy is gone. But

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Speaker 1: you refuse to answer a question because there is no answer.

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Speaker 1: We have never successfully taken someone out of office in

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Speaker 1: a foreign land and put someone in there, either of

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Speaker 1: theirs or hours, as a puppet, or otherwise successfully for

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Speaker 1: any period of time. You can't name, you can't name.

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Speaker 4: We have not installed a puppet in Venezuela. This is

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Speaker 4: not about regime change. The regime is still in power

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Speaker 4: in Venezuela, according to whom guess, the vice president of

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Speaker 4: Venezuela is ready to who's now.

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Speaker 1: Needs to be She needs to be ready because we'll

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Speaker 1: give her too. But again, as much as I want

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Speaker 1: this to work for their people, mostly for hours, but

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Speaker 1: certainly for theirs, and I respect the idea of sovereignty,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned all these other foreign lands where it's failed,

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Speaker 1: I never once going to mention any of those as

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Speaker 1: an example. I simply asked you, and if you have

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Speaker 1: to hear it from anyone else, who's a supposed expert

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Speaker 1: across the country or internationally, to name one single place

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Speaker 1: where were you being engaged in anything like this, whereas we're.

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Speaker 4: This isn't about this isn't about regime change or building

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Speaker 4: a nation. This is about keeping China out of our hemisphere.

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Speaker 3: I'm not disputing.

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Speaker 1: But we're still but we are having a regime. But

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Speaker 1: we still have to worry about a regime change.

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Speaker 4: Because there you have to worry about communists China.

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Speaker 3: And that's it.

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Speaker 1: There still has to be there still has to be listen, man,

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Speaker 1: there still has to be someone in place there to

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Speaker 1: operate the country, just like any other nation state.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and we will be in charge of.

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Speaker 1: Right. So then we're talking regime change. We have never

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Speaker 1: successfully done it.

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Speaker 4: We're we're talking about changing the minds of the people

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Speaker 4: who are already there in place.

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Speaker 1: Well, I hope it works. I want it to work.

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Speaker 3: I hope it's already working.

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Speaker 4: The Vice president, two days in, you don't.

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Speaker 1: Know if anything's working yet. It's two days I love you,

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Speaker 1: but you're you don't. You can't say in any way

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Speaker 1: at all, two days in that it's working already. You can't.

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Speaker 3: It is working. It is working.

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Speaker 1: Only because what didn't see, Well, I.

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Speaker 3: Hope it is. I will.

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Speaker 4: When the United States for the people of Venezuela. Did

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Speaker 4: you see all of the people in Florida celebrating what

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Speaker 4: just happened in Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're in exile. I totally you know, there's.

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Speaker 4: A chance for their country to actually have a democracy

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Speaker 4: and maybe they can go back to their country.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of that, Jay six, the anniversary tomorrow, how how

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Speaker 1: do you celebrate that you're back here tomorrow night? What

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Speaker 1: do you think about that and where we are now?

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Speaker 4: I'm glad that you mentioned that, because tomorrow night on

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Speaker 4: the show in the nine o'clock hour, retired Lieutenant Navy

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Speaker 4: Commander Tom Caldwell, one of the J six dependents, will

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Speaker 4: be with me, joining me.

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Speaker 3: As Will as Will kim.

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Speaker 4: Hale, who was incarcerated for almost four years for nothing

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Speaker 4: that he did that they were charging him with. I'm

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Speaker 4: excited about tomorrow night's show and I'm glad you brought

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Speaker 4: it up.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I wanted to help you, I want to

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Speaker 1: promote you. I like you, and I am interested in

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Speaker 1: the anniversary. I still think it was a failed attempt

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Speaker 1: at overtaking. It was not a tourist trip. I've been

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Speaker 1: to DC, I've taken tours. Not once ever have I

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Speaker 1: seen or been a party to anything like that. And

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Speaker 1: if it had been Democrats doing that, we would have

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Speaker 1: been absolutely over the wall going after them, talking about

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Speaker 1: them being Unamerican, and tell me, wouldn't have.

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Speaker 4: Done the illegal, unconstitutional things that the Biden DOJ and

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Speaker 4: the FBI I did with the January sixth defendants.

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Speaker 3: We never would have done that.

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Speaker 4: That was a total usurption of the constitution.

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Speaker 3: And of law.

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Speaker 1: Grand juries and prosecutions and confessions and successful prosecutions all

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Speaker 1: and then pardoning them is an inexcusable stain on on

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Speaker 1: this nation. And I am supportive of this president.

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Speaker 4: What was done to the true American patriots who were

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Speaker 4: exercising their constitutional rights to assemble and address their grievances

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Speaker 4: with a government that outs inside.

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Speaker 1: The capital breaking stuff and threatening to kill people. That's

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Speaker 1: the American.

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Speaker 4: People who weren't even inside the capital Stirling that were

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Speaker 4: incarcerated and persecuted and had their lives ruined for years

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Speaker 4: by the Biden do OJ.

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Speaker 1: That's a horrible thing. All I know is sons of

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Speaker 1: bitious who've went in there going after lawmakers, Republican and

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Speaker 1: Democrats alike, including the former Vice president, should have still

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Speaker 1: been locked up, should have been convicted, and rightfully so,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that they were pardon is inexcusable.

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Speaker 4: And regardless of celebrating, I'm celebrating their freedom on this

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Speaker 4: five year anniversary.

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Speaker 3: God bless them.

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Speaker 1: Merrick, We're all free to do that. Gary Jeff, have

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Speaker 1: yourself a great night back here tomorrow night after lands

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Speaker 1: at nine. Yes, yes, you are a good man. Take

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Speaker 1: care of yourself, brother, you know, I'll see you later.

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Speaker 1: He's Gary Jeff Walker. I'm sterling. This is seven hundred

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Speaker 1: wulw SX. It's a Monday night. The regular season of

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Speaker 1: the NFL is concluded, and there's no Monday Night football

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Speaker 1: and the Bengals are done through until next season. And

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Speaker 1: what will they do to get better? Ben Baby for me,

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Speaker 1: ESPN haven't had him on in a while, was kind

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Speaker 1: enough to take the call, said hey, I'll come on,

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Speaker 1: why not, Ben Baby? How are you happy New Year?

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Speaker 1: How's everything? And what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, well throwing you know, nothing whole lot going

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Speaker 5: on this week except for Zach Taylor coming back, Duke

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Speaker 5: Tobin coming back. We'll hear from Duke Tobin on Friday.

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Speaker 5: So even though the Bengals aren't in the postseason, it's

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Speaker 5: going to be a very eventful we on the banks

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Speaker 5: at Paycor Stadium.

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Speaker 1: There's no question how far away, because we saw this

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Speaker 1: defense get better, but there are still, you know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of hurdles to get over and changes in personnel

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Speaker 1: and natural attrition and otherwise maybe going out and shopping

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Speaker 1: and trying to get better. Talking to Ben Baby with

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Speaker 1: ESPN Sterling in seven hundred WLW, how far off are they?

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Speaker 1: How many pieces do you think they are away? The

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Speaker 1: offense isn't complete. I'm not even going to mention the

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Speaker 1: foot in Moneymack and how that went. It was like

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Speaker 1: a yip situation or something. I have no idea.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, when you look at the defense and

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Speaker 5: I think, you know the game itself against Cleveland, I

627
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Speaker 5: think there are other issues besides having mcpheerson and the

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Speaker 5: two pats obviously one of them blocked and then the

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Speaker 5: one miss like you mentioned, But you know, defensively, I

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Speaker 5: think there's still some pieces obviously that need to be

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Speaker 5: added here. I think the fact that Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 5: Jamoar Chase both you Know basically said listen, you know

633
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Speaker 5: a Jamar saying the Poms are obvious and Joe saying,

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Speaker 5: you know, we need championship caliber roster. I think when

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Speaker 5: you look at how they've spent their defensive draft picks,

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Speaker 5: and you've got to either ask two questions. Are we

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Speaker 5: developing these guys to get them to play at the

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Speaker 5: level we need to or do we need to go

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Speaker 5: out and get players to be able to do that?

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Speaker 5: And how do we identify players better when they come

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Speaker 5: into our building. I think these are all big questions

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Speaker 5: that Tobin needs to be asked, you know. I do

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Speaker 5: think it is notable that the Bengals are making Tobin

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Speaker 5: available to talk and quite frankly answer questions about how

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Speaker 5: this roster was constructed, because I think that's where things

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Speaker 5: really went wrong when you go back and book in

647
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Speaker 5: hindsight as to why the Bengals aren't in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Ben Baby from ESPN about the Bengals season

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Speaker 1: wrapped up yesterday. Tough loss against the Browns. It's always

650
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Speaker 1: tough in the AFC North. It was a season really

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Speaker 1: for the taking as far as that goes, because the

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Speaker 1: AFC North at a down year. But you had Joe's toe,

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Speaker 1: and Flacco came in, and we saw Jake Browning not

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Speaker 1: what he once was. We saw Chase brown I mean,

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Speaker 1: what a monster he and p Ryan tandem going at

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Speaker 1: it from the backfield. I mean, and there were so

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Speaker 1: many other questions, but I mean, wasn't it amazing to

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Speaker 1: see him sort of step up and go next level

659
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Speaker 1: in the midst of this very tumultuous season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think this is what the Bengals

661
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Speaker 5: needed to a degree. You know, they needed to find

662
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Speaker 5: a a better and more consistent running game, and over

663
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Speaker 5: the course of the season they were able to find that.

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Speaker 5: Now here's the thing, Sterling, I think that they still

665
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Speaker 5: need more from the running game. And I don't know

666
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Speaker 5: how much of that is dependent on the running backs

667
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Speaker 5: they have, But when you look at how teams play

668
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Speaker 5: the Bengals, they said, all right, we are for years now,

669
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Speaker 5: they said, we are not going to give Joe Burrow

670
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Speaker 5: and Jamar Case and p Higgins the ability to go

671
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Speaker 5: down the field and attack us vertically like they did

672
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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one. Really before teams figured out just

673
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Speaker 5: how good the receivers in Burrow could be together. And

674
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Speaker 5: if you're going to teams are going to play you

675
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Speaker 5: that way. Guys in that building will tell you, we

676
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Speaker 5: have to be able to run the ball. And the

677
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 5: year after year, the coaches said the same thing. We've

678
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 5: got to be explosive in the running game. And I

679
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 5: think the biggest problem with this Bengals offense they are

680
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 5: not creating enough explosive plays. And I think when you

681
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Speaker 5: spend as much money as you have, you've got to

682
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Speaker 5: be able to take what the defense is given you

683
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Speaker 5: and exploit them in that way. And I think we

684
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Speaker 5: just don't see enough of debt. And I think as

685
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Speaker 5: good as Chase Brown has been, I think there's still

686
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Speaker 5: more room for him and his offense to grow.

687
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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty six, man baby from ESPN with Sterling

688
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Speaker 1: on the big one and to go back to defense

689
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Speaker 1: and you live and breathe this and study this like

690
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Speaker 1: there's nobody else except maybe guys employed by the Bengals.

691
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Speaker 1: But I'm interested in this. The defensive draft picks they've

692
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Speaker 1: had many, They've had many big names and high end

693
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Speaker 1: draft pick type of individuals coming into Cincinnati. How much

694
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Speaker 1: of it is failing to develop Some of those who

695
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Speaker 1: weren't as good as expected or or just being forced

696
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Speaker 1: into service earlier than expected, and that sort of adjust

697
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Speaker 1: and changes their development because that was sort of a

698
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Speaker 1: circumstance for a few.

699
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Speaker 3: Of these guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there is some some credence to the

701
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Speaker 5: fact that there was a delayed developmental process for some

702
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Speaker 5: of these young guys. We saw that when Miles Murphy

703
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Speaker 5: got on the field a little bit more, he was

704
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Speaker 5: able to defind his footing. We see how DJ Turner

705
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 5: start to come into his own as well. The young

706
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 5: linebackers started to play well, you know, once they got

707
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Speaker 5: deeper into their rookie seasons. And I think that's one

708
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Speaker 5: of the reasons why when you look at why the

709
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Speaker 5: Bengals moved on from Louis and Rubo, you know they say, listen,

710
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Speaker 5: we know we have to develop these young guys. We

711
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Speaker 5: cannot go out and afford them. I understand where lou

712
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Speaker 5: was coming from as well, because we saw what they

713
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Speaker 5: were at the beginning of when they started out and

714
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Speaker 5: they just didn't make that a set that you needed

715
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Speaker 5: them to initially. And I think this year it really

716
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Speaker 5: felt like a rebuilding year for this.

717
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Speaker 2: Team and this defense.

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Speaker 5: You wanted to see these young guys grow a little

719
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Speaker 5: bit more, and they have, but again, I think you

720
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Speaker 5: still need more difference makers on that side of the ball.

721
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Speaker 5: You look at what Philadelphia did last year when they

722
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Speaker 5: won the Super Bowl, and they paid all these guys

723
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Speaker 5: on offense well, they drafted incredibly well on defense and

724
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Speaker 5: those guys were able to play and get up to

725
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Speaker 5: speed quickly. I think that's going to continue to be

726
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Speaker 5: the mission for Al Golden, the Bengals defensive coordinator, is

727
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Speaker 5: getting these young guys not only just to play well,

728
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Speaker 5: but to really be difference makers for this defense.

729
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Speaker 1: For so long we talked about parodying the NFL and

730
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Speaker 1: the struggles that sort of go with it. This season,

731
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Speaker 1: we've seen more than a couple of teams that have

732
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Speaker 1: gone effectively from worse to first or at least into

733
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, if not to first. So that gives us

734
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Speaker 1: some hope. With this window still open with this Bengals team,

735
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Speaker 1: how much time do you think they have to get

736
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Speaker 1: healthy and well and beefed up with talent to hopefully

737
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Speaker 1: get to the playoffs and maybe deep into the playoffs again,

738
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Speaker 1: because that window is not as wide open as it

739
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Speaker 1: once was. Because as bizarre as it sounds, Joe Burrow

740
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Speaker 1: is not a kid anymore.

741
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Speaker 5: No, and Burrow is going to be entering his seventh

742
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Speaker 5: season next year, and you know, the Bengals are now

743
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Speaker 5: three years or moved. You can say, oh you anything,

744
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Speaker 5: you know, you can hear about urgency and this and that.

745
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Speaker 5: I think every team that doesn't make the playoffs is

746
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Speaker 5: going to say, you know, it's it's urgent that they

747
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Speaker 5: find a way to get back in I think it's

748
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Speaker 5: how do you change what you've done previously that has

749
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Speaker 5: not worked and find a way to get back into contention.

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Speaker 5: I think that's the edict that that Joe Burrow was

751
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Speaker 5: handed out and said, listen, something's got to change. You know,

752
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Speaker 5: Jamar Chase again said something similar to that effect, and

753
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Speaker 5: you know, Zach Taylor kind of didn't really answer the

754
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Speaker 5: question of what exactly they'd like to change moving forward.

755
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Speaker 5: Curious see what Duke Tobin has to say about this,

756
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Speaker 5: But ultimately they have to do something to get this

757
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Speaker 5: back to where it needs to be because you know,

758
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Speaker 5: the if you're a Bengals fan, or really a fan

759
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Speaker 5: of any team in the AMS North this year, you've

760
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Speaker 5: got to be frustrated because this is the worst the

761
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Speaker 5: division has been in quite some time, and if you

762
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Speaker 5: were able to get to ten wins, you were going

763
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Speaker 5: to be able to win it. And you saw the

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Speaker 5: Baltimore Pittsburgh game, I know it was entertaining. I don't

765
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Speaker 5: think that was a well played game. I mean, you

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Speaker 5: look at how each of those teams tried to lose

767
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Speaker 5: the division. It's like the story of the year the division.

768
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Speaker 5: Nobody really wanted to win. And so I think there's

769
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Speaker 5: so many questions that all four teams have to answer.

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Speaker 5: But you go look at it across the AFC, there

771
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Speaker 5: are a lot of good teams out there, and that's

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Speaker 5: not with you know. You know we were talking about

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Speaker 5: the Baltimore Ravens not making the playoffs, Kansas City not

774
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Speaker 5: in the playoffs. We'll see how good Buffalo is going

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Speaker 5: to be. And you see some of these younger quarterbacks,

776
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Speaker 5: these younger teams really starting to play well. And it's

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Speaker 5: it's going to continue to be tough to really go

778
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Speaker 5: make a run in a very crowded division conference.

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Speaker 1: Ben Baby covers the Bengals for ESPN. I'm sterling this

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW when you look at the retention of

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Speaker 1: this coaching staff at least as much as they share

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Speaker 1: with us that you know that are going to be

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Speaker 1: around Zach, et cetera. Are you surprised at that? And

784
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Speaker 1: what I mean by I shouldn't say surprised. We know

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Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow, you know, is comfortable with them, and

786
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Speaker 1: there were injuries extenuating circumstances I suppose in this, But

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Speaker 1: if Burrow was not on board with this, how likely

788
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Speaker 1: do you think it would have been that it would

789
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Speaker 1: have been a new regime as far as management and

790
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Speaker 1: operations on the field for this Bengals football team.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's a really good question. I don't have

792
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Speaker 5: a great answer for you. I think it's the obvious

793
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Speaker 5: thing would be that if Burrow, you know, did not

794
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Speaker 5: think that they were moving in the right direction, obviously,

795
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Speaker 5: you know, I think they would. The front office will

796
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Speaker 5: have to take that into consideration. I think Zach Taylor

797
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 5: has done a very good job the entirety of his

798
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Speaker 5: coaching tenure, even going back to when Indy Dalton was here,

799
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Speaker 5: trying to make the quarterbacks as comfortable as he possibly

800
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 5: can and put them in positions to succeed. I think

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Speaker 5: that's why you see when different quarterbacks come in, you

802
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Speaker 5: see a different style of play, why Joe Flacco operates

803
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 5: the offense differently than than Joe Burrow. And then when

804
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Speaker 5: you go back to what Jake Browning was doing well

805
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Speaker 5: in twenty three, you know the offense was differently back

806
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 5: then as well. I think that is a credit to

807
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Speaker 5: what Zach Taylor has done. And I do think there

808
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 5: are some very good coaches on staff. When you look

809
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Speaker 5: at how they developed, how they put and positions to win,

810
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Speaker 5: I think they have done a lot of good things. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 5: you know, I think it's Ted Carris hold reporters. You know,

812
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Speaker 5: after the game yesterday, you know, the Bengals are the

813
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Speaker 5: would be Kings, and they've got to figure out what

814
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Speaker 5: exactly is keeping them from finding ways to play better

815
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Speaker 5: in the middle of the season, but also finished games,

816
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 5: because this is now a multi year problem. And you

817
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 5: go look at the Bengals record over the last few years,

818
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 5: one of the worst teams in the league in one

819
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Speaker 5: score games and really a team that should be more

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Speaker 5: dominant in some of these situations.

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Speaker 1: Then Baby Cover spangles for ESPN with Sterling on the

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Speaker 1: big one. Closing games out has been a problem, and

823
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Speaker 1: losing close games has been a problem, and that's an

824
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Speaker 1: amazing thing. Preserving the lead or going down field and

825
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Speaker 1: getting it at the end and closing is everything. So

826
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Speaker 1: how is there a magic bullet for that? I mean,

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Speaker 1: other than getting a big lead and not giving it

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Speaker 1: up along the way. Because what we talked over the

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Speaker 1: last couple years, Ben was what, let's win some games

830
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Speaker 1: to start the season. Well they finally did that. Then

831
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Speaker 1: you get a toe problem and then you know, navigating

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Speaker 1: the in between and that ugliness. And we saw what

833
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Speaker 1: was a promising end I suppose, at least till Cleveland

834
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Speaker 1: and seeing them seemingly put it back together again and

835
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Speaker 1: you can sort of check and see that offense clicking.

836
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Speaker 1: But the end between and finding a way with that

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Speaker 1: and closing it out, I mean, that is just ponderous.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that's something that that there does

839
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 5: need to be a legitimate answer given I think by

840
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 5: the coaching staff at some points too. Why this has

841
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 5: been an issue over the last two seasons. You go

842
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 5: back and the Bengals led Baltimore twice in the second

843
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 5: half in twenty twenty four, lost both of those games,

844
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Speaker 5: a major reason why they didn't get in the playoffs

845
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Speaker 5: this year. Could not close out the Jets and the Bears.

846
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Speaker 5: You know, the Bears ended up being a pretty good team.

847
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 5: We'll see how good they really are in the playoffs.

848
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Speaker 5: But the Jets are one of the worst teams in

849
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Speaker 5: the NFL, and by quite some margin. And you couldn't

850
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 5: win that game yesterday. The Bengals should have beaten Cleveland.

851
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 5: You know, we're in control at too many mistakes and

852
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 5: then you know, they allowed the Browns to go out

853
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 5: and now ran And I think as bad as Shador

854
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 5: Sanders played yesterday, I have to give him a lot

855
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 5: of credit for that last drive, being able to leave

856
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 5: the offense down. I think that you know, they did

857
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 5: exactly what they needed to do to win that game late.

858
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 5: But you know, again, a situation where the Bengals are

859
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 5: able to find if they can just get a couple

860
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 5: of plays, this ends up being a win. And this

861
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 5: is not a as Joe Burrow said earlier this season,

862
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 5: it's a whole you know, it's just not a good

863
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 5: football team. And so they have to figure out what

864
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 5: exactly is the problem in that regard.

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Speaker 1: What have I not asked about this that you see

866
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Speaker 1: as being an obvious thing or that's not being talked

867
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Speaker 1: about this last season and moving ahead, because I mean,

868
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Speaker 1: the only thing that matters is what's next. I suppose

869
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Speaker 1: Ben baby.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the two big questions that I have

871
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Speaker 5: or Joe Burrow's health moving forward. How healthy was he

872
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 5: finishing the year? You know, it seemed like everything was okay,

873
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 5: but you know, how much how will that toe continue

874
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Speaker 5: to respond as he goes further and deeper into the offseason.

875
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 5: And also, at one point is enough going to be enough?

876
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 5: And is Burrow is going to get set up? Are

877
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 5: other is going to be frustrated? You know, as the

878
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 5: front office is going to decide we can't continue this way.

879
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 5: And really, the Bengals when they were when they were

880
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 5: drafted Joe Burrow in twenty twenty, they were given a

881
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 5: massive lifeline to revitalize this organization in a fan base

882
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 5: that when I got here in twenty nineteen that was

883
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 5: a checkdown, a checked out could get true and you know,

884
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 5: you end up having one of the best quarterbacks in

885
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 5: the league. And ultimately, did you capitalize on the resource

886
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 5: the NFL literally gives you to be good? You know,

887
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 5: you just have to be bad enough to be in

888
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 5: a good position to draft a great player. The Bengals

889
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 5: got a transcendent one. Did they maximize Burrow? I think,

890
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 5: whenever all was said and done and with his time

891
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 5: in Cincinnati, that's going to be the biggest question for

892
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 5: everybody in the building, and I think they have to

893
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 5: be able to say, yes, we think we did everything

894
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 5: we could, and if not, long after Burrow's gone, I

895
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 5: think there will be many fans who remember how this

896
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 5: tenure of the Bengals franchise went and how they'll feel

897
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 5: about the franchise moving forward because of that.

898
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: I have an unusual question, but I'm going to ask

899
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: because I think you're qualified to answer it better than I.

900
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: We see how the parody and the way the money

901
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: is adjusted and handled for budgeting for these teams in

902
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: the NFL. Could Major League Baseball benefit from being in

903
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: a better situation handling those same type of resources in

904
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: whatever way would work for them because it is a

905
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: different sport, obviously, where you could see more regularly the

906
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: worst to first kind of scenario, which gives markets where

907
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: teams have historically maybe not been or smaller markets a

908
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: better chance to do it. Even though the Reds seemed

909
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 1: to just be a you know, just that close so often.

910
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I just don't. I don't want to

911
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 5: hear that. You know, I'm I'm a Texas Rangers fan.

912
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 5: We spent a lot of money. We want to work

913
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 5: through as recently, but listen, we went out and spent

914
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 5: a lot. We got Corey Seeger got core you know, Marcusenian,

915
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 5: and they did what they needed to do to win.

916
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 5: I think the NFL has a cash floor.

917
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: It's not the.

918
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Speaker 5: Salary cap that's the problem. It's that there is a

919
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 5: cash floor, which means that every few years there's a

920
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 5: minimum amount of money that has to be spent, and

921
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 5: if you don't spend it, it gets allocated to your

922
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 5: roster regardless. So at least you decide how to spend

923
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 5: it because it's getting spent. Anyways, what we see in

924
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 5: so many markets in Major League Baseball, or owners in

925
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 5: franchises who have no incentive to go out and put

926
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 5: competitive products on the field. They're okay with with sand

927
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 5: bases not showing up. They're okay with empty ballparks on

928
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 5: a day and day out basis, And quite frankly, you're

929
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 5: seeing too many people okay with being less and less

930
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 5: culturally relevant in America, where you're not seeing the best

931
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 5: athletes want to go out and play baseball anymore, and

932
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 5: that's not ideal, and there should be other issues when

933
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 5: you look at it, you know, I think you have

934
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 5: to give the Japanese a ton of credit some of

935
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Speaker 5: these Asian countries in South American country, Central American countries

936
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 5: that have produced so many great baseball players. And I

937
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 5: think it's a larger conversation because we spend so much

938
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Speaker 5: money on youth sports in America, and yet are we

939
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Speaker 5: even producing players at the level that we need to

940
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 5: given the investment that we have when other countries do

941
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 5: not invest in that way. There's something about or just

942
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 5: like in boxing, the amateur system sometimes doesn't always work

943
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 5: the way it does. I think there's so many questions

944
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 5: about baseball, and I mean, we could go for hours

945
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 5: on this, and I don't know if I'm qualified. I

946
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 5: don't know if I'm qualified for any of this either,

947
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 5: But I think those are big questions that Major League

948
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 5: Baseball does need to answer if they want to be

949
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 5: continually relevant with kids who may or may not be

950
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 5: interested in sports in general in a few years.

951
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: It's interesting and that you see these ratings that whether

952
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: it's radio here or TV here, and across the country.

953
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: In Major League Baseball, they've seen it grow the last

954
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: couple of years as they've tweaked the game a little.

955
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: One would hope that that interests domestically for kids stateside

956
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: to sort of go out there play and find their

957
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: way would be it. But I don't know that that's

958
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: the only answer either, So but I just wanted to

959
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: get in your head about it because I know you

960
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: look at and study this in in a multitude of

961
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: different ways. So I really appreciate you taking time and

962
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: doing what you do. It's always good to follow you,

963
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: and thank you for taking my call. I hope we

964
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: can do this again soon. We still have not talked

965
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: boxing as much as I'd like, and then I'm trying

966
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 1: to learn cricket. But I realized that it's a small

967
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: interesting population who's interested in that. But I'm trying to

968
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: figure it out in the worst way.

969
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 5: So hey, listen, at this point, I think we're gonna

970
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 5: have as many boxing fans in the US's cricket fans,

971
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 5: yes the way that that's what keeps calling.

972
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: So were you happy to see Paul get beat down

973
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago?

974
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 5: I mean, that's what should have happened, right, I mean,

975
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 5: it's like asking, like asking Joe Burrow to go play,

976
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 5: go play against Mason High, Right, Well, I expect is

977
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 5: going to happen. I mean, you know, I just the

978
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 5: fact that that was even allowed in the state of Florida.

979
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 5: I mean, if John McCain was still alive, I think

980
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 5: there'd be congressional hearings about this. I mean, that's just

981
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 5: the amount of things that happened in some of these

982
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 5: states is absurd. That's a fight that never should have

983
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 5: and saying would never have happened in an actual state

984
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 5: that Florida deserves a lot of criticism, and quite frankly,

985
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 5: they are lucky that Jake Paul did not get severely

986
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 5: hurt against a guy who was a former unified heavyweight

987
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 5: champion of the world.

988
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, big deal. He is and does survive that

989
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: car crash too, which is a whole nother thing together too.

990
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: I thought of you when I was like watching replay

991
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: of that, and I felt sort of sick, not because

992
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: he lost, but because I enjoyed him losing so much,

993
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: which it really is just bizarre. But I was like, yeah, yeah,

994
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: and why am I cheering that? But I did? I

995
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: really did. That's all I have I.

996
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 5: Think in America now, if you can create, and I

997
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 5: think this goes across from many many athletes who hear

998
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 5: this out. Floyd Mayweather got this better than anybody. If

999
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 5: you can get people to care about you one way

1000
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 5: or another, hate you're a love you. They're going to

1001
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 5: tune in for one reason and they're gonna you know,

1002
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 5: it's going to be one or the other, but they're

1003
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 5: tuning in regardless. And I think the Paul Brothers have

1004
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 5: that effect.

1005
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think you're right. And you know,

1006
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: for radio and they're broadcast at least historically they've said

1007
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: that people who hate you tend to listen more. They

1008
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: love to hate you, So I guess that's the trick

1009
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: is to have him love it in some fashion. Ben

1010
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: Baby at ESPN, thank you for doing what you do

1011
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: and making time into lending your ear into your insights

1012
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: and everything else.

1013
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 3: Man.

1014
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: I hope you have a fantastic new year and we

1015
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: can catch up again soon. Thank you, sir.

1016
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 5: Sounds good.

1017
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: Thanks Sterling, take care of yourself. The ESPN's Ben Baby

1018
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: Sterling coming back after your ten third report. Whole lot

1019
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: of ground tocover on the Nation station on a Monday

1020
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: night seven hundred WLW. I'm not mistaken, Lee Mallin, will

1021
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: have your eleven o'clock report about twenty three minutes or so.

1022
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: Bengals keeping a Zag Taylor, and they're also keeping Dick

1023
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: Tobin Duke Tobin. And you just happened to hear me

1024
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: a little bit ago talking to Ben Baby from ESPN

1025
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: about all that. You can certainly sound off five point

1026
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: three seven four nine seven eight hundred the big one.

1027
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: What else is going on? What a crazy story about

1028
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: a guy who's had some mental health issues, who at

1029
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: one point in time apparently had been caught trespassing or

1030
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: some type of issue in and around one of the

1031
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: regional hospitals here, I think a you see and dealing

1032
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: with mental health stuff, and then he trespasses on the

1033
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: Vice President's place in Walnut Hills, which is a stone's

1034
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: throw from where I used to live. But his house

1035
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: is bigger than my place I was staying at the

1036
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: time when I was living over there, that's for sure.

1037
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: And I did not have that kind of security. I

1038
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: had security, but not nobody available who was going to

1039
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: help some loan. And I'm not trying to discount this

1040
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: at all whatsoever. But the guy busted up a couple

1041
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: of windows and now is dealing with federal charges and

1042
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: so on, vandalism, criminal damaging, trespassing, obstructing official business, which

1043
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: would be the business of the Secret Service, which apparently

1044
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: when you are somebody at that level like the vice president,

1045
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: probably for a governor and so on, maybe even the mayor.

1046
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how deep it has to go where

1047
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: you have to worry about people who are looking to

1048
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: do you harm, who are off the rails, crazy, insane

1049
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: or mentally deficient, challenge drunk high.

1050
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

1051
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: These are not allegations about this guy. I'm just talking

1052
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: in broad terms or generalities. In a time where just

1053
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: a few years ago you had Pelosi's husband who was

1054
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: attacked with a hammer at their home in somewhere in

1055
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: around San Francisco. Could have killed that guy. Uh, and

1056
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: then of course you have lawmakers that were in Minnesota

1057
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: who were in fact gunned down, and an innocent person

1058
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: as well. These are contentious, dangerous, unsettling, unnerving times. And uh,

1059
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's just good that the vice president, his

1060
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: wife and anyone else there did not come to harm.

1061
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: And even further good thing that you know, there was

1062
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: not overreaction and any damage done significantly or permanently to

1063
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: this guy who's now accused of this attack. He was arrested.

1064
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: I want to clarify it, guys, I had I had

1065
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: it in front of me and misplaced it where I

1066
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: was on the on my paper. Uh do you see

1067
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: Health Psychiatric Emergency Services building is what this guy Defour

1068
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: was arrested for. He apparently was there for trespassing is

1069
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: what they had charged him with. And then later he

1070
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: was found not to be culpable, competent, capable, functional enough

1071
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: to stand trial and deal with those charges going back

1072
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: two years ago and excuse me, and they were dismissed.

1073
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: And then in two thousand and four, and this has

1074
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: been a reported WLWT. I've seen it all over wire

1075
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: Services as well. Two charges of vandalism breaking the front

1076
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: window the Hyde Park business there for another situation too,

1077
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: and then he went into treatment and lieu of a

1078
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: conviction for that type of thing. But apparently that treatment

1079
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: is still ongoing, and clearly the treatment's not working. If

1080
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: he shows up at the vice president's house vacant at

1081
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: the time or otherwise and looks to take a hammer

1082
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: to it, or whatever it was he used to bust

1083
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: in some windows. That's some trippy stuff. So the weirdos

1084
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: out there all over the place, and you know, these

1085
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: are content anxious times, and you just don't know people

1086
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: that are off their rocker or people that are just

1087
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: up to no good and somehow can rationalize or justify

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Speaker 1: some really crazy things because they think whatever. Which then

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Speaker 1: leads me to the anniversary tomorrow of January sixth and

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00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: and I know some people are celebrating tomorrow like it

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00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: was some type of freedom and American like patriotic endeavor

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00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: that took place.

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00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: It was not.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's bewildering the difference and in the

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00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: whitewashing of history as we see it effectively, it was

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00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: going on even in real time, and it's it's really

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00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: hard to process. And and I want to believe that

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00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: I think people know better, but then again, maybe they

1099
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: don't know better, and I you know, maybe I'm missing something.

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Speaker 1: I want to give you a chance to sound off.

1101
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: If I've won three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight hundred,

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Speaker 1: the big one. First of all, how big of a deal?

1103
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: And I'm not here to criticize or anything else. I

1104
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: just want to know honestly, how big of a deal

1105
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: do you think the attack on the Capitol was January sixth?

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00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: Do you in fact believe as I've heard from so

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00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: many people that have told me, they said, Oh, it

1108
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: was just like some type of tour, a tourist thing

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00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: that went on at the Capitol. And I've spent time

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00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: in DC. I have friends who lived there, and I've

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00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: walked along the monuments there. I have not been fortunate

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00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: enough to have the type of visitation that i'd like to.

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00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean, at one point in time, I'd like to

1114
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: get to the White House and see all that stuff

1115
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: up close and personal. But for a long time that

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00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: they didn't allow anyone in unless you were, you know,

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00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: somehow super connected going you know, into that situation. They

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00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: used to have regular tours, but then it became too

1119
00:59:55,120 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: unsaved for the occupants that you know on Pennsylvania Avenue there, President,

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Speaker 1: first Lady and all those who make our government work

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01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: at that level. Five three seven, four ninety seven, eight hundred,

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01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: the big one. And it's just a weird thing to

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01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: me in that there were people chanting for the attack

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01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: in the hanging of at that time a sitting vice

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01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: president who was the former governor of Indiana and Mike

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01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: pent There were people calling for killing of and maiming

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01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: of a lot of other lawmakers as well. And regardless

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Speaker 1: of where we are right now with Donald Trump in

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01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: office for his second term, which you know he won,

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01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: looking back on January sixth, and somehow saying that that

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01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: did not happen or it was not as severe and

1132
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: was not an attempt to distract and to avoid certification

1133
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: of an election that took place that was a loss

1134
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: at that time for Trump and a win for Biden,

1135
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: is delusional in my opinion, and really buying into the BS.

1136
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: It's I think, hurtful in an ugly stain on this

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Speaker 1: nation and perhaps long after I'm gone and you were

1138
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: gone in a generation or two or three, and you know,

1139
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: down the line, as we continue this democratic experiment in

1140
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: the greatest nation on earth, at least in my opinion,

1141
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see for those that are here

1142
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: what that ends up looking like as we start looking

1143
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: back in history and what that meant. It's it's disturbing

1144
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: to me is the lawmakers had to hide and they

1145
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: had to be ushered out of there to their safe

1146
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: places whatever they were. That we're making phone calls and

1147
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: in desperation and in fear, with people roaming the halls

1148
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: and busting into offices and everything else in the Capitol

1149
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: where our lawmakers do their work for us. We the

1150
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: people that that's what happened. It was not a tour,

1151
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: It was not people holding hands and comby eye. It

1152
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: was not a peaceful protest. Some people may have been,

1153
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: but there were a whole lot of people in that

1154
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: building and on those grounds who attacked law enforcement officers

1155
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: and would have been more than happy to have changed

1156
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: the certification in how that thing played out if in fact,

1157
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: it had not gone the way it did in the end.

1158
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: And that is a wild thing for me to imagine

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Speaker 1: in these United States, even now after that five years

1160
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: from that date tomorrow, in how things are looked at.

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01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: So I guess in time everything eventually comes out, or

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01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: then again maybe it doesn't. Five point three seven four

1163
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: nine seven eight hundred, the Big One, your chance to

1164
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: get interactive. Other stuff going on. I want to say

1165
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: this because it's very interesting to me, and I have

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01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: friends who have kids in school, and I have friends

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01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: that are teachers that have you know, they teach little

1168
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: kids and older kids in high school some university level

1169
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: for that matter, too effectively. January first was the new

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01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: Ohio school cell phone band, and that overall prohibits keeps

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01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: kids students from having the ability to use those handheld

1172
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: devices or what have you while they're in school, other

1173
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: than like in an emergency situation, or whether they put

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01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: them in those little cubby holes or they put them

1175
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: in a little bit one of those little lockaway bags.

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01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: If you've gone to a concert or something, or an

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01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: event where they don't want people pirting in, bootlegging video

1178
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: and audio of whatever's taking place, you may have already

1179
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: done that. It is an odd, awkward, uncomfortable scenario. I

1180
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: have friends that are pretty hacked off, some that already

1181
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: had a band in their classrooms or in some of

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01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: the schools just since the start of this school year,

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01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: and have told me that they have seen positive results

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01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: as a result of the limiting access and the distraction

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01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: and the focus and the actual communication and socializing. And

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Speaker 1: I guess the term would be being present in the

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01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: moment in the classroom and ready to learn, which, if

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, is exactly what school is all about.

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Speaker 1: But you know, one of the lingering things that people

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01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: have a fear of is if something goes sideways, you know,

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01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: something terrible bad happens, that they would not necessarily be

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01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: able to reach out for help. So you hope that

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Speaker 1: that is not the reality. That the reality is that

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01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: better learning, better engagement, better outcomes for students, which is

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01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: good for the country in US as a people overall.

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Speaker 1: And I think that you know this odd thing, And

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Speaker 1: I've seen this with more older people than kids, And

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Speaker 1: it's probably because I'm hanging out with adults more than kids,

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Speaker 1: just because I'm a grown up. And even my friends

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Speaker 1: with kids, when I've been out with them, I often

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01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: see their parents more just acted and engaged in their

1202
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: devices from time to time, either visiting their houses or

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01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: out about for food or whatever together then I do

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01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: the kids in many cases, which I think is interesting.

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01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: And I guess that's how the worm is turned. Where

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01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: kids are, you know, saying, well, mom and dad aren't

1207
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: paying attention. They're in their phone or you know, you know,

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01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: they're just in front of no different than the TV

1209
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: used to be. Now it's the phone in your hand

1210
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: or on your wrist or whatever else. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven,

1211
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Speaker 1: eight hundred The Big One it's a Monday sterling for Gary. Jeff,

1212
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: want to know what you think. Later on conversation I

1213
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: had with the former head of political science at Right

1214
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: State breaking down and looking at the historical significance of

1215
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: what happened in Venezuela. With an incredible, I mean, precisionally

1216
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: run plan. They built a facility in the States on

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01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: base for the for these high talent military personnel to

1218
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: basically work through what their plan was to go get Maduro,

1219
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: and they did overwhelming force, limiting any type of worry

1220
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: for retribution in response from Venezuela. They snatched him, they

1221
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: snatched the first lady, and he faced a courtroom situation

1222
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: this afternoon in New York. It's a wild circumstance to

1223
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: see how that played out and the actual execution of it,

1224
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: the planning of it. It wasn't the biggest surprise as

1225
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: far as what it was leading to with the increase

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01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: in naval presence in and around the Caribbean, aside from

1227
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: target practice going after those alleged drug boats, which some

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01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: probably have been. They went after a few over in

1229
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: the Pacific side as well, but it was just a

1230
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: matter of time and none of us were really sure

1231
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: if they were going to get him out of there,

1232
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: and certainly may not have expected it to go down

1233
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Speaker 1: the way it did. But that raid on Venezuela, technically speaking,

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01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: the military angle, the business of going and getting someone

1235
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: in that situation, shows the might, the muscle and the

1236
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: capabilities of our military and the intelligence to go along

1237
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: with that to get something done. And my guess is

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01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: that a whole lot of people around planet Earth, and

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01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: certainly in our part of it, in this hemisphere, are

1240
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: are looking a little bit more seriously at what the

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01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: President says moving ahead, whether it's Columbia, maybe even Mexico,

1242
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: and certainly Cuba, which you can almost see from Key

1243
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: West if you look that direction in South Florida five

1244
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: point three seven four nine, seven thousand, eight hundred, the

1245
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: big One. I'm glad you're along at Sterling with a

1246
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: quick break. We'll come back, give you a chance to

1247
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: sound off, and doctor Schlack after the eleven o'clock news

1248
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: will give us a look to her perspective historically and

1249
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: everything else with one went down in Venezuela. But let's

1250
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: get to Monroe and talk to Mark on seven hundred

1251
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 1: WLW with Sterling, Mark, how are.

1252
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 3: You I'm doing fine. How are you tonight?

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01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: No complaints?

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01:07:58,760 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 3: Man.

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01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm looking at video right now from ABC Live Prime

1256
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: where they're showing Maduro being walked back apparently after the

1257
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: hearing earlier that he had. It's a pretty amazing thing.

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01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: What are you up to do?

1259
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 3: You?

1260
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: What's on your mind?

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01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 3: Well?

1262
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 6: I was going to come in on the Chase sixth thing,

1263
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 6: but you can. We could go with Maduro if you want,

1264
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 6: whatever you want, you call it's your time, okay. I

1265
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 6: you know, I go back to that whole thing. And

1266
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of controversy, especially with Nancy Pelosi.

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01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,560
Speaker 6: Trump volunteered to bring in a National.

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01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 3: Guard and she.

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Speaker 6: She decided she didn't want to do it. Then she

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01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 6: admitted that she was negligent about it, and then she

1271
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 6: turned again and said she had nothing to.

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Speaker 5: Do with it.

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01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 6: So there's too many conflicts of admission there in my opinion.

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01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: I guess my question is who stirred up the pot,

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01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: who rallied those people, and who sent those people to

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01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: the capitol, and who went into the capital tore stuff

1277
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,480
Speaker 1: up and looked and hunted effectively for these lawmakers.

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01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 6: Well, I'll be honest with you, I'll go a lot

1279
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 6: with the conspiracy theory. I mean, the deep state, in

1280
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 6: my opinion, is a lot deeper than most people think

1281
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 6: it is.

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Speaker 3: I think they are.

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01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 6: They had articulate to infiltrating people here, there, and everywhere

1284
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 6: when they need to. And I also believe they basically

1285
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 6: uh I wouldn't say own the press or what I

1286
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:48,520
Speaker 6: would refer to propaganda, but you they reveal certain information

1287
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 6: and definitely withholding information. So I think you have this

1288
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 6: major splice and dice.

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01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about the editing. I'm just wondering

1291
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: who was down there rattling those people and telling them

1292
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: to go to the capitol, because that wasn't edited. Just

1293
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: just who called them there, who said it was going

1294
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: to be a wild time, who sent them there, who

1295
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: said the election was stolen? And who failed as president

1296
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: to get the national guard there when he sent them

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01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: all over the country subsequently this term, we know he

1298
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: has the capability to do that. That was the president

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01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: and that was those individuals who made that choice. The

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01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: media didn't encourage in the go to the president did correct, Well,

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Speaker 1: what was.

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Speaker 6: He guilty saying let's go over to the capital peacefully.

1303
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:39,799
Speaker 6: I haven't heard that edited properly overall.

1304
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about I'm not talking about any edits though.

1305
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, did he not call people down there,

1306
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: raise hell, tell them that the election was stolen and

1307
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: everything I just asked you? He did, right? And those

1308
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 1: and those people did they were manipulated by who to

1309
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: go in there and ransack the place, even if it

1310
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: was just ransacking it, right. I mean, if I went

1311
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: in and ransacked the FBI building across the parking lot,

1312
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 1: which I shouldn't even joke about, that was a bad choice.

1313
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: But if anybody, they'll be in here giving me a

1314
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: cavity search before the night's over. Mark, I'm not careful,

1315
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,560
Speaker 1: so I got to be. But if somebody you know

1316
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: went in there, you'd have to blame them for being

1317
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: culpable for going in or someone who encouraged them.

1318
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 6: Yes, well, yeah, I'll be honest with you. I think,

1319
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 6: in my opinion, and I'm not suggesting, hey, this is

1320
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 6: the perfect reason to go out and ransack and you know, create.

1321
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 3: A riot or anything, but.

1322
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 6: I think that election was stolen, and especially like what

1323
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 6: the Georgia thing, when Trump says, you know, let's find

1324
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 6: x amount of votes out there, I think it was

1325
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 6: marginal enough. It wasn't the swing it the other way

1326
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 6: around is like, hey, do a recount there.

1327
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they did a lot of recounts. Mark.

1328
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, man, I appreciate you listening to it,

1329
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,799
Speaker 1: and thank you. But time and time again, court proceeding

1330
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,560
Speaker 1: after court proceeding after court proceeding, Trump appointees, other Republican

1331
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: appointees and judges and so forth. I mean, case after

1332
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 1: case after case. You know that there was not enough

1333
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: jacking around with the vote to make an end difference.

1334
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: And I mean it, it's just a lot of kool

1335
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: aid drinking. It would be nice if everybody could just

1336
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: be honest and own whatever it is and what it was,

1337
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: aside from many manipulation by the media. I'm not the

1338
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: brightest bulb in the box, but I've been able to

1339
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: sift through it and sit here behind a microphone and

1340
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 1: talk about it for years now on occasion. I mean,

1341
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: it's just it's wild and we can agree to disagree

1342
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 1: with the anniversaries tomorrow and that all I can tell

1343
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: you is that was not a good time tour. Like

1344
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: Boy Scouts and Girls Scouts or any other group going

1345
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,560
Speaker 1: to DC to see the capital that was the hillacious

1346
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: anti American bunch of crap and those people being pardoned.

1347
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 1: Just sad, sad, standing on history. The news straight away,

1348
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: give you a chance to hear what's going on around

1349
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: planet Earth, and you're eleven o'clock report, and then we'll

1350
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 1: get some insight into what went down in Venezuela and

1351
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: what the future may hold for us most importantly, and

1352
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: then of course our neighbors to the south moving ahead,

1353
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. And let's get one more.

1354
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: I think we have time. Let me look four or five, No,

1355
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: we got to stop, all right, Hang on the news

1356
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: straight away more Sterling coming back, seven hundred WLW back

1357
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: tomorrow or Western Hiding producing Lee Molts. They're updated about

1358
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: twenty three minutes in three seconds. If you're really paying

1359
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 1: close attention to time, you know this weekend was tough

1360
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: as a Bengals fan in that well, this season came

1361
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: to an end, and they played some good football on

1362
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 1: occasion when Joe came back with the tow, I mean

1363
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 1: he gave up. He turned the ball over a few times,

1364
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: which was somewhat uncharacteristic. We know yesterday's outcome again the

1365
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: Browns was less than satisfying. Uh, sort of gave that

1366
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: one away. Talked to Ben Baby for MEESPN about that

1367
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. You can listen to the podcast

1368
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: after the show, UH and check out a conversation I

1369
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: had with him. He's always compelling. Same with doctor Donald Schleck,

1370
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: a former head of political science at Right State, and

1371
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: even Garry Cheff, who we talked to a little bit

1372
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: earlier too and had some fun. But you know, you

1373
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: start looking ahead and kind I think, Okay, well, what

1374
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: would the Bengals do next. We know that they've kept

1375
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, we know that Dick a Duke Tobin is

1376
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,560
Speaker 1: going to be around, and I guess there'll be some

1377
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: more conversation about what they're going to do to improve

1378
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,759
Speaker 1: that defense and whatever else that they need to fortify

1379
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 1: offensively to help get them to be where they need

1380
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: to be as long as that windows open for Uh.

1381
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 1: It's weird to say a quickly aging Joe Burrow, but

1382
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: in terms of NFL life span, you know he's getting there,

1383
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: and so you know the window is relatively short. There's

1384
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: more years, but you want to get it done and

1385
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: get back to the playoffs and hopefully get there regularly

1386
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: and get there deep and then maybe get back to

1387
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: a super Bowl or something along those lines. That's rarefied air.

1388
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: But he is a rarefied quarterback in The talent around

1389
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: him is pretty exceptional generally speaking overall. And you know,

1390
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,799
Speaker 1: we listen to Dan Horde, we listen to Dave Lapham,

1391
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: we get spoiled. You listen to Joe Sunderman and Byron Larkin,

1392
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: and you get spoiled. The talent, the people behind the

1393
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: microphones talking about Xavier basketball or Bengals certainly basketball, Bearcats

1394
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 1: as well, a Big twelve season, Big East season, respectfully,

1395
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: all about it, whether it's Terry Nelson hanging out with

1396
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: Dan Horde, who Dan does everything, excuse me, all of

1397
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,759
Speaker 1: it were very spoiled in the Tri State as sports

1398
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: fans to get the talent behind the microphone who paint

1399
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,799
Speaker 1: the pictures for us as we're driving around or listening

1400
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: on the job or whatever it is. Around Bengals, around

1401
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: bear Cats, around Musketeers, and the Reds are no exception.

1402
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: Reds on radio on the Big One. Obviously, Hot Stove

1403
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: League is here. They'll be in the desert sooner than

1404
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: you know it, getting tuned up and ready to go

1405
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: and move. Still to be made, and they've made a few,

1406
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: but we'll see if they do a little bit more

1407
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: to make this Reds team a little bit more competitive

1408
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 1: going into twenty six and certainly behind the microphone, it

1409
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: is a pretty amazing thing. Tommy Thrall is tremendous. You

1410
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: hear a lot of other guys around him in one

1411
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 1: of the best former Red player and a guy who,

1412
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: now you can tack this on to I'm sure probably

1413
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: a case full of plaques and trophies and rings and

1414
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: everything else. Not enough room on an average everyday mantle

1415
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: for Jeff Brantley, now the newly crowned Ohio sportscaster of

1416
01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: the Year thanks to the National Sports Media Association. Here's

1417
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: an earful of our Jeff Brantley doing what he does

1418
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,759
Speaker 1: on a nightly and daily basis, making a compelling painting

1419
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,879
Speaker 1: pictures to let us understand the game better and frankly

1420
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: entertaining as all get out. On the big one.

1421
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 7: Line, drive down the left field line, that's gonna score

1422
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 7: a few. Coming around third, they're waving him onto the house.

1423
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 3: Here comes to Vigno, the thought of the plate.

1424
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 8: We're tired.

1425
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:37,919
Speaker 7: Three three a game, tyg basis clearing double from Christian

1426
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 7: in carnassium strand how about that sugar coming into the ballgame.

1427
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 9: This is Zach Maxwell, who's fun throw that thing? Scored

1428
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 9: a run back in the two run third, and he

1429
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 9: ropes this one down the line.

1430
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 7: It is out of here.

1431
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 3: TJ.

1432
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 9: Friedel Oh, oh my goodness, that was an absolute rope.

1433
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 9: Four to two reds Wow swings and fouls of backs.

1434
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 9: Still two balls and two strikes baseball, NASCAR, country music?

1435
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 9: More is that right down my alley? All in the

1436
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 9: same spot. The feeling you're gonna do that's like a

1437
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 9: redneck dream?

1438
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 3: Got that right?

1439
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 9: Coors Field International Airport balls are taking flight every fifteen

1440
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 9: to thirty seconds between six forty and nine forty each night.

1441
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 9: Make sure you got a ticket. Dela Cruise, a missile

1442
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 9: off the wall is last time up.

1443
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 3: And this ball is kerr rushed deep right field. It

1444
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 3: is a five four ball game.

1445
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 9: A two run shot by Dela Cruise, and folks, I

1446
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 9: think he's getting loose. Oh two, here we go, swing

1447
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 9: and a messy struck you now, boy. Brady Singer has

1448
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 9: been absolutely phenomenal in his first start in our Renz uniform,

1449
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 9: seven innings of one hit, shutout baseball. Talk to me,

1450
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 9: our ballpark was so bad in Fresno they condemned it

1451
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 9: at season's in. And here's the crazy part about it.

1452
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 9: We won the dang California League championship that year. We

1453
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 9: were the best team in the league. Our bus broke

1454
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 9: down when we won the championship, all the way back

1455
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 9: at dim Park, No kidding. Oh wow, you had to

1456
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 9: wear shower shoes everywhere otherwise your feet were going to

1457
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 9: be eating up.

1458
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: And nobody wants eating up feet. Jeff Farantley, a living

1459
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: legend National Sports Media Association Ohio Sportscaster of the Year

1460
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: just announced today, at least as far as me getting

1461
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: word of it, So congratulations to him, well deserved. And

1462
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 1: how does that not whet your appetite and start getting

1463
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,560
Speaker 1: you thinking about the spring and opening day in the

1464
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: Finlay Market Parade and get into the desert maybe for

1465
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: some spring training baseball watching Reds and you know, obviously

1466
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: the Guardians, they spend a lot of time playing each other,

1467
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: sharing that facility together. As the Bengals season wraps up,

1468
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 1: although you know this is a meaty, exciting time. Also

1469
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: as a college basketball fan. We don't have the NBA

1470
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: in the Tri State certainly. And you look at just

1471
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: conference play between the Big twelve, the Big East with

1472
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: the bear Cats and the Musketeers respectfully. You cross the river,

1473
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 1: Northern Kentucky University, the Norse in the Horizon League taking

1474
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 1: on Wright State just up seventy five in Dayton, my

1475
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: old school. You got Miami doing what they do. You

1476
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: got o YOUU. I mean, I was just talking to

1477
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: Lance about this the other day and it is bewildering.

1478
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: And Chick two for that matter, the other day on

1479
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 1: the show. And you think an hour's drive from where

1480
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: I sit right here on Montgomery Road right now. But

1481
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: Drew Western, Heidi producing me and keeping me in line,

1482
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 1: and you know, talking about Jeff Brantley, sportscaster the year

1483
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 1: and everything else. You hop in a car, you drive,

1484
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: you know what two hours, give or take, how much

1485
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 1: college basketball is there to take in? I mean, it

1486
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: is bewildering to Lexington, to Louisville or UK and the

1487
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 1: Cardinals and doing what they do to Indiana who I mean,

1488
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: I don't even want to bring up Indiana football right now.

1489
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very happy for Hoosier fans. You have to understand.

1490
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm an Ohio kidd, I grew up as

1491
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: an Ohio kid. I'm a Buckeye fan. I can't help it.

1492
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 1: And it was ugliness the other night. And the way

1493
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: that whole thing went down somewhat surprising or not, maybe

1494
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 1: depending against the Hurricanes in the Hoosiers for almost my

1495
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: entire career as a human were horrible. They were just

1496
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: never good at all. In the land of John Mellencamp,

1497
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: in the land of the late great Jim Scott, into Hoosierville,

1498
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 1: in the land of Indiana. They play on in the

1499
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff, but they've got obviously historically great basketball.

1500
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 1: Then you just up in Indianapolis too, for that matter.

1501
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: Is that more than two hours away? Two and a half.

1502
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what the drive is up seventy four.

1503
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: It's been a while since I've made the drive. But

1504
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you get there, you get Butler's Bulldogs too.

1505
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,759
Speaker 1: And you've got other Horizon League matchups in the region

1506
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 1: as well, in Big twelve, in Big Ten, Big East Horizon.

1507
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous. We are in the land of plenty

1508
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: for college football as well. And I just want to

1509
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 1: take a selfish moment to celebrate Jeff Brantley and the

1510
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: Reds and him getting the Sportscaster of the Year award

1511
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: and just thinking this is an exciting time too, and

1512
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 1: it's also Olympic time. Sooner than later they'll be doing

1513
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: the Winter Olympics. And I kind of am an Olympic fan.

1514
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:50,520
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of sports that are arguably activities,

1515
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: more like pingpong is an Olympic sport now it's a

1516
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: summer sport, not a winter sport, a lot of other

1517
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: cool stuff to go with it. And speaking about Olympics

1518
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:03,560
Speaker 1: in locals, I mean, here's a guy also who you

1519
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 1: know from the region let's just say the area if

1520
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 1: you will, and Nick Keepper from Lawrenceburg. Here he is

1521
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: now qualifying for his what is this one two three?

1522
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 1: I think it's his fourth Olympics now he's thirty one

1523
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: years old. He started when he was like, I don't know, six,

1524
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 1: thirty one years old, what did I say? Forty one?

1525
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: Thirty one years old? And he was in Calgary and

1526
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 1: he got the free style the free ski halfpipe World

1527
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 1: Cup there and that apparently helps get him to the Olympics.

1528
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: So I mean there's a whole lot going on as

1529
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 1: far as that is concerned. Some of the best broadcasters

1530
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 1: in the game painting the pictures for us on a

1531
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: regular basis. I am very much looking forward to Red's

1532
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: baseball back on the big one sooner than later. In

1533
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: a whole lot of college basketball between then and now

1534
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: two so hopefully we get some chance to enjoy it.

1535
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 1: Quick break, there's more to do. I appreciate you being along,

1536
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 1: your chance to sound off as well. Are you happy

1537
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: about this Bengals team and the lack of changes when

1538
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,719
Speaker 1: it comes to management and the operation and the play calling.

1539
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Joe Burrow seemed to be quite

1540
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 1: happy with Zach Taylor, and that's one of the things

1541
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: that you know, comfort for Joe Burrow and his circumstance

1542
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: and those around him and making sure that he has

1543
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: what he needs. But the number of people that have

1544
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: reached out to me, either personally or by way of

1545
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: social media, and hearing a lot of other people talk

1546
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 1: about it, the frustration and the aggravation even though this season,

1547
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 1: and I have to say, if you look at what

1548
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: they had to overcome with injuries, and you could argue

1549
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: that their depth could have been better should have been better,

1550
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 1: and if it were better, they would have probably taken

1551
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: the AFC North. But they went out and got Joe Flacco.

1552
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 1: They were able to adjust and alter their game plan

1553
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 1: to fit his game a little better. Didn't get a

1554
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 1: whole lot of wins one It would have been nice

1555
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: if he could have eked out one or two more.

1556
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 1: But you know, a lot of people pretty hacked off

1557
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: about the fact that there weren't changes made to coaching,

1558
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: at least at the top of the coaching chain in Cincinnati.

1559
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: For the football Bengals five three, seven, four nine, seven,

1560
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: eight hundred the Big one, your chance to get interactive.

1561
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 1: Good bit more ground to cover before I'm out of here,

1562
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: and Kevin Gordon gets behind the wheel of America's truck

1563
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 1: and network, which rolls next at Sterling for Gary Jeff

1564
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: seven hundred WULW. Because the regular NFL season's over, it's

1565
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 1: finishes through, but the playoffs are here, and I I

1566
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm finding it a hard time to get too engaged

1567
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: in it. The Bengals aren't in it, and I mean

1568
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 1: the football the NFL is hard to I mean, it's

1569
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: just it's so good generally, so I'm sure I'll get

1570
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: more into it, but I did a little disillusioned, a

1571
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 1: little dissatisfied. I'm ready for baseball. I'm ready for some

1572
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: college basketball, full on conference season in front of us,

1573
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 1: in the midst of it already, frankly, So we'll see

1574
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,560
Speaker 1: what the Bengals do in the offseason and try to

1575
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: get better. Five one, three, seven, four, eight hundred the

1576
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 1: big one. Excuse me, I had a cough. I wanted

1577
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 1: to save you from it, so I hit the cough

1578
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 1: button so you didn't have to navigate it. Still navigating

1579
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of a cold not as bad as

1580
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 1: a whole lot of other people with the flu numbers apparently,

1581
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 1: huge emergency rooms and so forth, pretty packed, and even

1582
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: hospitals at this point with a whole lot of people

1583
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: dealing with a pretty vicious flu season. They say, there's

1584
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 1: still a chance to get your shot, so get them.

1585
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 1: If it was flu for me, which they weren't sure of,

1586
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: it didn't last very long, about a three day funk,

1587
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 1: and then now just sort of trying to navigate getting

1588
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: back to it in the midst of doing what I do,

1589
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: and I will sanitize and martinize the entire counter surface,

1590
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 1: microphone and everything else. Common space. I'm not trying to

1591
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: bring the sickness to our friends and neighbors here, whether

1592
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: it's Tom Brenham in the morning, Scott Sloan, middays are

1593
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: Willie certainly Eddie, Rocky, Lance, Gary Jeff, or anybody else

1594
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: in GGA W will be back here tomorrow. I want

1595
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 1: to mention something else, because any time I can talk

1596
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: about monkeys on the loose, I get excited. I just

1597
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: do because it's it's a rare thing because we you know,

1598
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of native like monkeys and stuff

1599
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: in and around the tri State. Occasionally you'll hear a

1600
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 1: story about some monkeys getting out and about, but not always.

1601
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 1: So here we go headline escape monkey causes chaos inside

1602
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 1: Tennessee Music store, which really, if I remember correctly, I

1603
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: don't know what type of monkey it was, but I

1604
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 1: know at one point somebody for a holiday gave me

1605
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 1: as a tiny sterling. I don't know if it was

1606
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: a chimp or a monkey. It was you'd wind it

1607
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,600
Speaker 1: up and it would bang the symbols together and go

1608
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: or something in play like a drum or something like that.

1609
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 1: I don't even know, but either way, real monkey on

1610
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: the loose described as wreaking havoc and chaos inside this Morristown,

1611
01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: Tennessee music store called Trade Center by the time law

1612
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 1: enforcement arrived, and the monkey had apparently escaped because it

1613
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: knew the heat was on. Animal control officers also responded subsequently,

1614
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: but the simion, as it's described capuchin monkey, a cinnamon

1615
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 1: kapucha monkey, which is different than others, apparently knew that

1616
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,560
Speaker 1: it was time to get out and a word has it.

1617
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 1: According to the US Department of Agriculture, there was a

1618
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: license keeper of primeates in Alabama at a farm that

1619
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 1: apparently I don't know if they raised them, they collect them,

1620
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,799
Speaker 1: rescue them. I don't know what doesn't say, but apparently

1621
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 1: someone boosted a monkey from Morristown. I'm sorry from I

1622
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 1: gotta hit this right. They hoisted a monkey from Alabama.

1623
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 1: They sold it to someone in Morristown, Tennessee, and then

1624
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: it apparently escaped because monkeys liked to get out and

1625
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 1: have some fun, and it went to the music store

1626
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: because I'm a like a human, I have an opposable thumb.

1627
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: Monkeys are not that far away from us. It also

1628
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: had interest in music and apparently tore up some stuff

1629
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,600
Speaker 1: and then bailed out. They subsequently apparently have captured it,

1630
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 1: and I don't have any word if it'll be heading

1631
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 1: home soon or if it's a monkey jail situation. I'm

1632
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 1: not quite sure. I would hope it's able to go

1633
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 1: run free again. Maybe they get at some symbols or

1634
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 1: something else. It just wanted it needed to play. People

1635
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 1: don't need monkeys, by the way.

1636
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 2: I mean.

1637
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: I had a neighbor named Todd when I was a

1638
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 1: kid who lived in an apartment building next door to me,

1639
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 1: and he'd have us after school over, a bunch of

1640
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: us kids, and the big attraction was he had a

1641
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: monkey in a cage where his family had a monkey

1642
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 1: in a cage in the living room, and it was,

1643
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, the most god awful, sad thing. I

1644
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: can remember what it would do, and I remember my

1645
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 1: cousin's even coming over at one point to see it.

1646
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 1: If you talk to them at some point, Donnie or Dougie,

1647
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 1: they will tell you probably that they remember coming over

1648
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: and having a monkey in a cage throw it crap

1649
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: at them. It's all it had. The only stimulation this

1650
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: monkey had was to grab crap and throw it at kids.

1651
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 1: Brought in effectively for Show and Tell to see it,

1652
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: and I wanted to save it. Then it was clear

1653
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,759
Speaker 1: that it was happy, and my mom said, you cannot

1654
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 1: take the monkey from Todd's house. It will rip your

1655
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 1: face off. It's just not something you should do, and

1656
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: so I did not. I don't know what happened to Todd.

1657
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to the damn monkey. I

1658
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: just hope it found a better place with more room

1659
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 1: to play and more stimulation than just piles of crap

1660
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 1: that it would fling at kids brought into the home,

1661
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 1: something else, completely different. I want to mention this. I

1662
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 1: thought I had another monkey story, but I don't. But

1663
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 1: here is one I will share because I know. I

1664
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 1: had people reaching out to me and telling me that

1665
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 1: they were upset and that I should be able to

1666
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 1: sound off on this. They said that they had heard

1667
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 1: that MTV had gone completely dark, that they had shut down.

1668
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 1: They did shut down some overseas channels that were airing previously,

1669
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: but no, MTV is still out there wherever you can

1670
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 1: find it, if you have a cable system, streaming or

1671
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: whatever else. It's been around for forty four years. But

1672
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: on New Year's Eve it did shut down a couple

1673
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: of the feeds that were out there in the UK,

1674
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: and some others that people weren't watching as much. But

1675
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,639
Speaker 1: you know, you could still maybe find it and still

1676
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 1: maybe listen or watch a video that's not available on

1677
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app all the time at your disposal, anything

1678
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: that you want, playlists and shows like this or me

1679
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: Eddie Rocky, whatever it is. But MTV is not what

1680
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 1: it once was. I believe the real world ruined it.

1681
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 3: But that's just me.

1682
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:41,799
Speaker 1: And now you can take the music with you anywhere

1683
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: in the iHeart Radio twenty four to seven, straight away,

1684
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 1: the Midnight Report you got, mister, excuse me, you get

1685
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 1: the news straight away you got atn rolling after that

1686
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: with Kevin Gordon and I am done. Gary Jeff is

1687
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: back tomorrow. I'll be back in Friday with Donna for

1688
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 1: Sloaney here on the Home of the Best Bengals Cover

1689
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.

1690
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 7: News, Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.

1691
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 8: No independent review on the CDC's decision on pediatric vaccines.

1692
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 8: With your midnight reports, I'm we mawing breaking now. Massive

1693
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 8: changes on coming from Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.

1694
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 8: Kennedy Junior and the CDC. They're eliminating six vaccinations from

1695
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 8: the long standing recommended list for children.

1696
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 2: The CDC announcing it's further reducing the number of vaccines

1697
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 2: it previously recommended for children, effective immediately from seventeen to eleven.

1698
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: That means the CDC will no longer recommend that every

1699
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 1: child gets shots for rotavirus, hepatitis A and B, meningitis RSV,

1700
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 1: and the flu.

1701
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 5: The CDC now advising the rotavirus and flu vaccines should

1702
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 5: only be given to a child