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Speaker 2: I'm just declaring an advance that today's podcast is loaded,

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Speaker 2: so just listen to the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: It's worth it. I want to start with this.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying nobody's ever observed this before. I'm just

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Speaker 2: saying I've not seen anybody make this point. That doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean it hasn't made a million times. I just haven't

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Speaker 2: picked up on it. Credit unions, I think are the

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Speaker 2: new hospital companies. Let me explain, almost all the major

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Speaker 2: American hospital chains are nonprofit. But despite being nonprofit, meaning

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Speaker 2: they're not in business to make any shareholders any money,

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Speaker 2: they're in business to break even and provide a service.

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Speaker 2: They advertise and market aggressively. They compete more ferociously than

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Speaker 2: for profit businesses. And the reason for this is I've

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Speaker 2: explained many, many times there's a lot of profit to

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Speaker 2: be made in nonprofit. While there may not be shareholders

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Speaker 2: making money, boy o boyar, there's sure a lot of

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Speaker 2: high end executives and others that get big fat salaries

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Speaker 2: and their big fat salaries off and premise on market share.

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Speaker 2: Just because you are a quote unquote nonprofit doesn't apparently

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Speaker 2: mean that you aren't going to function like a profitable organization.

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Speaker 2: In the process, of course, you raise your cost of

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Speaker 2: doing business, and it's one of the reasons that hospital

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Speaker 2: prices are as high as they are credit unions. When

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Speaker 2: credit unions were in they were to be an alternative

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Speaker 2: tool the for profit banks and savings and loans. The

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Speaker 2: idea is is that we're not trying to produce a

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Speaker 2: rate of return. We're not trying to produce a return

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Speaker 2: on investment for shareholders, so therefore our cost can be lower.

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Speaker 2: We're basically running this as a break even operation. The

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Speaker 2: members of the credit union are essentially the owners of

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Speaker 2: the corporation. But look at what's happened lately. Some of

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Speaker 2: these credit unions have gotten to be huge, and I've

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Speaker 2: noticed the same thing that those hospitals. They're advertising like crazy. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't know the particular need for a credit union

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Speaker 2: to advertise. What's the advantage to a credit union's members

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Speaker 2: if you've got hundreds of thousands of other members or not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you want to be of a certain size

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Speaker 2: in order to be able to survive. That's true, But

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Speaker 2: why all of this marketing and the cost of them

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Speaker 2: marketing comes from somewhere? Which makes you wonder if the

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Speaker 2: whole notion of credit unions being these things that have

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Speaker 2: lower cost and lower fees for the people that are

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Speaker 2: members of the credit union goes down the terrain. I

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Speaker 2: know what you're thinking, what prompts this?

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Speaker 3: Is that? What you were thinking?

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Speaker 2: What prompts this? What promises were you thinking that or not?

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Speaker 2: Were you just going along and allowing me to do

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Speaker 3: Were you thinking? Were you thinking? What is prompting me

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Speaker 3: bringing this up?

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Speaker 2: All?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Landmark Credit Union was huge has just bought the naming

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Speaker 3: In the Deer District.

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Speaker 2: Why no, this is the concert venue that I thought

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Speaker 2: absolutely no market niche. But that was before we saw

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Speaker 2: the Convention Center District, which is adjacent to the Deer District,

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Speaker 2: planning to tear down the Miller High Life Theater, which

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Speaker 2: is almost the exact same size. Anyway, the thing's going

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Speaker 2: to be named Landmark, and it's going to be named

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Speaker 2: after Landmark Credit Union. They are not disclosing the terms

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Speaker 2: of the deal. I think at some point they must

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Speaker 2: But the reason that they're doing it is the same

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Speaker 2: and so on. It's a way of getting your name

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Speaker 3: Customers are the people that they call their members, so.

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Speaker 2: That's what it's coming from. And again, maybe a lot

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Speaker 2: an option. I'm going to read a quote. Listen to

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Speaker 3: Here's the quote.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter whether they were deprived as a youth,

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Speaker 2: The folks born out of wedlock, without supervision, without any

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Speaker 3: That's quote.

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Speaker 2: The quote essentially says, who gives a crap whether or

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Speaker 2: of this stuff. In fact, if anything, these are the

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Speaker 2: reasons that we have predators because they're raised in terrible

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Speaker 2: family environments. But the fact that they have raised in

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Speaker 2: terrible family environments doesn't change the fact that they're predators

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Speaker 2: and we must remove them. Quote you might as you

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Speaker 2: might guess, well, it could be uttered by say Mark

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Speaker 2: Belling in twenty twenty five. The quote is thirty two

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Speaker 2: years old. The quote came from Joe Biden. There was

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Speaker 2: a time that the Democrats were liberal, yes, but nuts.

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Speaker 2: Back at the time, we thought they were nuts, but

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Speaker 2: You make a quote like that, right now, you're going

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Speaker 2: saying that there was a general consensus from both political

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Speaker 3: When you keep hearing.

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Speaker 2: This idiotic babble from the left that somehow we on

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Speaker 3: Years, not right, word mega.

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Speaker 2: The movement created by Trump has I think been more

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Speaker 2: both Bushes, and so on. It's Trump that has been

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Speaker 2: much more of a peacenic, non militaristic. It has been

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Speaker 2: that has taken on some of the big corporate establishments,

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Speaker 2: results of it. No, obviously Joe Biden got dementia, and

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Speaker 2: way he governed is nothing in common with that comment

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Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety three that Joe Biden, who allowed ten

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Speaker 2: United States to commit terrible crimes. Is not that Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden who would have said this is he's one? Is

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Speaker 2: would have wandered off into this direction? No way of knowing.

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Speaker 2: Who knows that Biden's actual views were, because I think

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Speaker 2: make is that quote that I read from nineteenty three

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Speaker 2: lot of it was just Charlatanism that he didn't really

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Speaker 2: believe in. That he said in order to get elected. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: One of the points that I've made repeatedly is whenever

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Speaker 2: is always the thing that they are doing. You've heard

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Speaker 2: me say this any number of tios. You should write

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Speaker 2: carry on these pearls of wisdom and use them throughout life,

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Speaker 2: it off as your own kind of ideology. Thrught to democracy,

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Speaker 2: of course, he thought to democracy, thought to democracy. It's

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Speaker 2: because nobody knew what the Republicans were supposedly actually doing.

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Speaker 2: That was threatening democracy. He just said it, But they

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Speaker 2: keep saying it. Now, What if I told you about this.

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Speaker 3: Revealed just this week.

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Speaker 2: I had to admire Old Chuck Grassley. He's three hundred

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Speaker 2: years old. I mean, he's been in the United States, said,

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Speaker 2: in argument. Grassley's been around forever. He's over ninety. He

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Speaker 2: been on Judiciary, he's been an oversight and so on.

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Speaker 2: It shared the committees that have the ability to do this,

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Speaker 2: Not, by the way, with any evidence of criminal activity.

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Speaker 2: So what was this reaching past Trump and using this

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Speaker 2: When did the Democrats suddenly become sure? It's just it's

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Speaker 2: Suddenly they make him a victim. Nonetheless, call me Komee Komi, Kobe.

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Speaker 3: Puck Grassley crimes. Was he committing.

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Speaker 2: Old man from Iowa who asks a few good questions?

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Speaker 2: Josh Hawley's on here? I mean there are issues in

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Speaker 2: I think Hally's gonna run, and Hally's gonna run to

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Speaker 2: Holly was being spied on. Dan Sullivan, Senator from Alaska.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. The hell has he ever done?

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Speaker 3: You know why?

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Speaker 2: I asked, what the hell he's ever done? I'm not

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Speaker 3: I mean, what do you.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if I honestly don't think his

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Speaker 2: he was one of them, Tommy Tuberville, Senator from Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Who else?

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Speaker 2: Cynthia Lumis Republican of Wyoming, Marsha Blackbird of Tennessee, and

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Speaker 2: and all sorts of stuff happened. The Democrats, of course,

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Speaker 3: So Hally.

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Speaker 2: Of course Pam Bondy was it in charge of that.

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Speaker 2: Then he's simply using the fact that Pam is sitting

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Speaker 2: play a portion of this because Hally's dead on correct

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Speaker 2: But by the way, none of them, none of us

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Speaker 2: Who knows it was heard? Nobody knew this. This came

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Speaker 2: they found these warrants.

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Speaker 3: Here's Josh Holly boss.

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Speaker 5: Second document is a list.

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Speaker 3: Take a second, I should set this up.

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Speaker 2: Can you go back and remand it to the beginning

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Speaker 3: All right, here it is again, Boss.

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Speaker 5: The second document is a list of Republican groups and

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Speaker 5: people that Argick Frost targeted, including Charlie Kirk's group Turning

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Speaker 6: You very much, mister Chairman. Attorney General BONDI good to

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Speaker 6: see you. Welcome. I've been listening closely in this hearing,

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Speaker 6: all manner of things and the current president. I've also

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Speaker 6: Yesterday we learned that the FBI tap my phone. Let's

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Speaker 6: look at it. We've got a list tap my phone tap.

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Speaker 2: That was Senator Hawley drawing attention to this revelation. Let's

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Speaker 2: There's a report by Paul Sperry now that says he's

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Speaker 2: In other words, remember now the special counsel is Jack Smith.

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Speaker 3: He's not a cop. He's not he can't. He's the lawyer.

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Speaker 2: The wire tapping had to be executed and done by

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Speaker 2: Christopher Ray had to sign off of this along with

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Speaker 2: Merrick Greland, the Attorney General, because quote any investigation involving

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Speaker 2: In other words, certain cases federal cases in which the

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Speaker 3: It's a bunch of.

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Speaker 2: Lefties that were going after Republicans. Next part of this,

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Speaker 2: this is from the same hearing old Dick Durbin. Should

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Speaker 2: I told that? How many times have I told that story?

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Speaker 2: See now, Dick Durbin, as you know, I go back

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Speaker 2: I could match wits with him. Derbin was pretty you

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Speaker 2: I'm talking to Dick Durbin of four decades ago. He

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Speaker 3: You know who.

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Speaker 2: Dick Durbin can't match wits with Cambody. First of all,

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Speaker 2: You know, these Democrats always use these hearings to try

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Speaker 3: Can you dare to do that?

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Speaker 2: How could you do that? How could you do that?

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Speaker 3: I just.

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Speaker 2: I would not try to play gotcha with Pam Bondy.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen to this exchange.

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Speaker 1: The word is, and I think it's been confirmed by

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Speaker 3: What's the rationale.

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Speaker 4: For that, Chairman, As you shut down the government, you

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Speaker 4: Our law enforcement officers aren't being paid, they're out there working.

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Speaker 3: To protect you.

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Speaker 4: I wish you loved Chicago as much as you hate

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Speaker 4: President Trump, and currently the National Guard are on the

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Speaker 3: Just sure.

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Speaker 2: You know, usually the Democrats center, they say, Derbin, he's

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Speaker 2: Probably needs to start throwing a counter punch now, but

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Speaker 2: You don't even know anything about that, do you do?

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Speaker 2: You not remember that George Foreman was the oldest person

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Speaker 2: ever to regrain the heavyweight championship of the world. Yeah,

441
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: you know, he had that comeback that everybody made fun of,

442
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Speaker 2: and so it's he made it all the way back

443
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: to the top. He became the world heavyweight champion. He

444
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: knocked out Michael Moore, who was a spectacular boxer. Well,

445
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: my recollection is round ten, but I might be off

446
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: on that. It could have been nine or even at eight.

447
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: But you know formon. Foreman was plotting the way that

448
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 2: he always did, and Moore was jabbing, jabbing, jabbing, jabbing,

449
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: jabbing and got a little careless and his guard got

450
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Speaker 2: down at Foreman. You know, Foreman had this like his

451
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 2: jab was like a straight because he was just so

452
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Speaker 2: stroy It was like a bronze statue, and he hit

453
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Speaker 2: him once and couldn't really pick up on it, but

454
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Speaker 2: it must have stunned him a bit, because then he

455
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: was down again and Truman Foreman had him with a

456
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: straight jab to the chin. A little bit I know

457
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Speaker 2: about all of this is most people's weak spot is

458
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: right on the chin. You get stunned, straight down to

459
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Speaker 2: the ground, flattened. And you know, George former and had

460
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: regained the heavy champion of the world. That man body

461
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Speaker 2: shot to Dick Durban. That was a shot to the

462
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Speaker 2: chi Durbin just man. I know, I didn't see the

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Speaker 2: whole video, but I said Durban fell right back out

464
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Speaker 2: of his chair and in his head on the back

465
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Speaker 2: of the thing, and the blood was coming out of

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Speaker 2: his mouth the same way that I saw Michael Moreland

467
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Speaker 2: laying there on the carpet. You say, you should watch these.

468
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 2: That fight was just historic and epic. It was a

469
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Speaker 2: monstrous upset. Moore was kind of dominating. When I say dominating,

470
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: he was scoring a lot more blows, but Foreman was

471
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: never hurt. Foreman wasn't all bloodied or anything. But Moore

472
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: was just scoring a lot more blows and Foreman lasted

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Speaker 2: long enough that he it was a combination, and it

474
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: was after an earlier punch. But it all happened within

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Speaker 2: twenty five seconds. My mind tells me nineteen eighty six,

476
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Speaker 2: But that could be way off, might be later than that.

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Speaker 2: It was after Foreman fought holy Field.

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Speaker 3: Holy Field beat.

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Speaker 2: Him, you know, and they have two three boxing titles

480
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Speaker 2: and so on, and maybe a year after that and

481
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: got his title Bolt what again? And it was more

482
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: that could be off on the years on that though.

483
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Speaker 2: All right, here's a story for you. You want a story.

484
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: Whenever you have undeniably good news under a republican administration,

485
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: what can we always say about that?

486
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: Think a guess you might get this.

487
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: When you have undeniably good news that occurs at a

488
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: republican administration, what could we always say about it? You

489
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: are getting dumber? I think you used to be pretty

490
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Speaker 2: good at the.

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Speaker 3: That is a weird question.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's and I use you I as

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Speaker 2: you knows.

494
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Speaker 3: What do they call that?

495
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: The method of teaching by asking questions?

496
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Speaker 3: Ah? I should know that it's the mythod that Charlie

497
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Speaker 3: Kirk used in his right.

498
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Speaker 2: He'd ask questions as a way of developing a point

499
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Speaker 2: and so on. It's very very effective I think for

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Speaker 2: either talk show host or a podcast there because when

501
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: I asked Paul, and I use it.

502
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: Obviously we make fun of Paul, but I.

503
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Speaker 2: Use him as the guinea pig so that everybody else

504
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Speaker 2: in the audience is think the same thing. And probably

505
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Speaker 2: many of them are flummoxed by this as well. But

506
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Speaker 2: you're the one that's here. I mean the alternatives that

507
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Speaker 2: can bring in somebody else in the audience and sit

508
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Speaker 2: in there and we can fire you.

509
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Speaker 3: But I mean you don't want that, do you? What

510
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: do they call that method?

511
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Speaker 2: Well, see if this is a live talk show, nine

512
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Speaker 2: million people be calling with that method, most to be wrong,

513
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: but now they're going to be calling and the phone's

514
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: going to be ringing, and who knows, O'donald's going to

515
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: be in the air and his producer's going to have

516
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Speaker 2: to be Should I just explain with here's again the

517
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Speaker 2: setup is something undeniably good happens during a Republican administration.

518
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Speaker 3: What can we always say about it? And the answer

519
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: is you'd ever hear about it.

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00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: The counter this would have been easier is if something

521
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: really bad happens under some sort of Republican administration. What

522
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: can we say about it? Everybody in the world will

523
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: hear about it. It's kind of like the price of eggs.

524
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Speaker 2: Remember how eggs were soaring the first few weeks of Trump.

525
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Speaker 2: I was, I think one of the first to pick

526
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: up on this because I follow the futures market. The

527
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: futures market is not where consumer prices are, but tells

528
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: you what they're going to be. And the prices of

529
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: eggs were crashing. It had to do with the bird

530
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: flu and supply shortages and so on. But Trump actually

531
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: moved to intervene and assists in those markets. And egg prices.

532
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: You haven't heard a thing about egg prices, but boil boy,

533
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: did you hear about that when they were high. It's

534
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: like gas prices. You don't hear much of anything about them.

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00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: Right now.

536
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: They continue to trend downward, even as many other things

537
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: precious metals, crypto and so on trend upward.

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Speaker 3: Here's the good thing.

539
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Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy, This, in fact, is I just think an

540
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Speaker 2: astonishingly astonishing story, but it's not reported anywhere. Nineteen seventy

541
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Speaker 2: that's the last time crossings at the border were as

542
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Speaker 2: low as they are now. That is incredible. First of all,

543
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 2: never mind the fact that Biden didn't enforce the border.

544
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: The border is hard to enforce. We all know the

545
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: problems with it. It's log there's a lot of ways

546
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Speaker 2: to get through. The Rio Grande is a crossable river,

547
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 2: even where there's fencing and so on. The wall is

548
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: only partly constructed. And you have these smugglers that are

549
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: being paid a fortune that bring people across. They're charging

550
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Speaker 2: a lot of money. There's big money in them being

551
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: able to get through and make it. All sorts of

552
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: Republican presidents, you know, everybody until Biden is somewhat not Obama.

553
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: Obama half ass enforced the border. Biden didn't enforce it

554
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: at all, but every other president Clinton, they tried to

555
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: enforce the border. There's only so much to Trump has

556
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: sealed this border off. Border crossings are almost at zero

557
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: and prime at the border, which is another component of this,

558
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: is way down. The number right now is not at

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Speaker 2: the slowest level that it was since nineteen seventy. In

560
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Speaker 2: the early seventies, the border was for If Johnson, Nixon,

561
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Speaker 2: all those presidents, they all enforced the border because it

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00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: was just universal and both political parties that you have

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Speaker 2: to come into the United States legally, not illegally, not

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Speaker 2: since nineteen seventy. So without regard to what you think

565
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: about ice raids and so on, this issue of you know,

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Speaker 2: and even Democrats are said, well, the first thing you

567
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Speaker 2: need to do to seal the border. They finally came

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Speaker 2: around and admitted.

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Speaker 3: That he's done that.

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Speaker 2: And it's an extraordinary accomplishment that the border control is

571
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Speaker 2: and I think it's mostly that the smugglers and so

572
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: they've given up second point on this. Every time that

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Speaker 2: initially Biden and nan Kamala were asked about this in

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00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, they kept saying, you have to pass

575
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Speaker 2: this compromise that a great immigration buill to and force

576
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Speaker 2: the border. Remember that if we passed that bill. No,

577
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: so how is it that Trump was Biden could have

578
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: done well, he's inapt. But if they would have put

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Speaker 2: in the commitment and resources and said we don't know

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Speaker 2: any of it costs, then we went out have had

581
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Speaker 2: any of this.

582
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 3: So Trump again put you know, prove that.

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00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: That statement was utter dishonesty. I need to move to

584
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: this story. It is a big one. It's part of

585
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Speaker 2: an ongoing debate. Microsoft has already given up on the

586
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Speaker 2: Caledonia data center. It's a little confusing for those of

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Speaker 2: you not.

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Speaker 3: In this area.

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Speaker 2: They had proposals for two in Racine County. Well two

590
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Speaker 2: on the one site they have the one that's ongoing

591
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Speaker 2: at the fox con site, and they want to expand

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00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: that at the FOXGN site that southern Racine County, right

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Speaker 2: on the Racine Kenosha County line. The one they just

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Speaker 2: announced a few weeks ago was Caledonia. Caledonia is northern

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Speaker 2: Racine County and Caledonia is a large community. It goes

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00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: it's on both sides of I ninety four. This was

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Speaker 2: to be let's see the east of I ninety four,

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Speaker 2: kind of close to forward the city ever scene, but

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Speaker 2: in a not fully developed area. It's near the big

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Speaker 2: wi Energies plant. There's been tremendous local opposition to this,

601
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Speaker 2: and Microsoft is said, Okay, screw, we won't goil here.

602
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: This is going to be a significant issue. The data

603
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: centers are necessary because we have AI and we have

604
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 2: the cloud and everything is going there and you need

605
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: to have the data centers to provide the infrastructure for this.

606
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: And the thing about the data centers is boy they're

607
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: pain in the ass, as I was, I think one

608
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 2: of the first to bring up. They require massive amounts

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Speaker 2: of electricity at a fair amount of water. On the

610
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: other hand, they're probably the greatest opportunity for economic development

611
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Speaker 2: in the United States in fifty years. This is the

612
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: Industrial Revolution on steroids, and the jobs are spectacular, and

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00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: the communities that get them they don't have to whine

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Speaker 2: about their property tax bases anymore because the property taxation

615
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: that they would collect off of this would allow them

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Speaker 2: to significantly lower property taxes. The counter to that is,

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Speaker 2: let's imagine I lived in Caledonia, and I lived west

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Speaker 2: of I ninety four, in other words, nowhere near this

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Speaker 2: city of Milwaukee, the auto manic district that I live in.

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Speaker 2: You think that an automatic district is forty five blocks

621
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Speaker 2: to the west of me. Is the same district somebody

622
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Speaker 2: wanted to put something a block away from me, maybe

623
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Speaker 2: I'd be opposed to it. Forty blocks away from the

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Speaker 2: same district.

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00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: Why not. That's a good thing.

626
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: So it's great for these communities unless you like live

627
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: right near it. So this is going to be the

628
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 2: challenge for the location of.

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Speaker 3: All of them.

630
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Speaker 2: The one thing we do not want, especially after Trump

631
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: is fighting to bring kech development back to the United States.

632
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: We don't want these things being built in Mexico and Canada,

633
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: where they get the massive economic windfall and all of

634
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: the jobs and we get none of them. The counter

635
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: to it, you know, it's the old Nimby thing. And

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00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 2: again I'm sensitive to it because we have not addressed

637
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: the electricity component or anything else. Kind of tells me

638
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: I want to explain the prisons. That'll be my analogy

639
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: point that I've made for decades about prisons is nobody

640
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: wants a prison built near them, except when when the

641
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: economy sucks. When and we've had people talk about the

642
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: most recent period we had periods in which unemployment was

643
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: well over ten percent. Jimmy Carter, Jimmy Carter, Jimmy Carter,

644
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter, Jimmy Carter. He certainly served that purpose of us.

645
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: Whenever I need to draw attention to an economy being

646
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 2: way worse than anything we have now, just bring up

647
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter, terrible unemployment in which, you know, prisons are

648
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: tough jobs to work in, but well paying jobs in

649
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 2: the infrastructure, the service industries commissary, you know, electricians, janitory

650
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: all the people that are good jobs. Secondly, well, some

651
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: people don't like the notion of the prison. Hardly ever

652
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 2: does anybody break out of a prison. They can break

653
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: out of the minute security, no walls prisons, but those

654
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: people rarely escape because if you're in a minimum security

655
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: and you escape and they catch you, you go back

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Speaker 2: to a max. Secondly, the minimum security is often people

657
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Speaker 2: close to release. They don't want to screw their thing up.

658
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Speaker 2: But maximum security, I mean, it's happened, But when's last

659
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Speaker 2: time somebody bust that out of a pond? I mean, I

660
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Speaker 2: think it may have been very rare. I can't remember

661
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Speaker 2: anybody busting out of Cheetah since Laarentzia, but bet I

662
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Speaker 2: very rare. But you know, some people don't want to

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Speaker 2: until there's an economic problem in which you chase the

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Speaker 2: same thing with it. So the fact that I see

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Speaker 2: some of this opposition to these data centers, when people

666
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Speaker 2: are sneezing at zillions one hundred thousand dollars plus jobs,

667
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Speaker 2: it makes me wonder if I'm wrong. I think the

668
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: economy is slowing. Maybe I'm wrong about that. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And again, the component of how far away would you

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Speaker 2: have to be if I didn't live in downtown Milwaukee,

671
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Speaker 2: would I care if you put in a data center,

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Speaker 2: It would be an upgrade over you know, the crime

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Speaker 2: and the gun out of the motorcycles. And but I mean,

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Speaker 2: if I lived in a quiet area, would I want

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Speaker 2: to you know, say, Port Washington, whether this is beings.

676
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Speaker 2: Would I want to live a block away in Port Washington?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: Would I want to live on the other side of

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Speaker 3: town to Port. Yes, think of what bloom it would be.

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Speaker 2: And your government would have no excuse but to lower

681
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Speaker 2: taxes because the massive windfall that you would get off

682
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Speaker 2: of that. But that's like anything else, and it's part

683
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Speaker 2: of the debate in Franklin over the rock Complex was

684
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Speaker 2: a huge geographic Those people who live a mile and

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Speaker 2: a half away, they love the rockets of all the

686
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Speaker 2: things that are going on there. You want to live

687
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Speaker 2: across the street where there's hullaballoo every.

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Speaker 3: No, you don't.

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Speaker 2: This is going to be an ongoing problem with the

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Speaker 2: location of these things everywhere. We do have an opportunity though,

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Speaker 2: in Wisconsin to be a hub for this. The idea

692
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Speaker 2: that we could act forever. We couldn't get any tax

693
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Speaker 2: spending it was Silicon Valley in Austin, Texas and all

694
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Speaker 2: of that stuff. And you know we're stuck with some dying,

695
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: dirty industries and rust belt stuff and so on. You

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Speaker 2: want to be part of it.

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Speaker 3: They say.

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Speaker 2: The data centers have components of not just their size.

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Speaker 2: People talk about the water. It's the electricity. You've got

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Speaker 2: to build new power plans to do it. They use

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Speaker 2: it incredible. Oh not the electricity. But they're inevitable. The

702
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Speaker 2: data centers are inevitable. All these people who embrace the

703
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Speaker 2: tech revolution that's going on, and it is everybody you

704
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Speaker 2: still and the data. When you hear data center data

705
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Speaker 2: is I'm gonna be oversimplifying of this because I'm short

706
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Speaker 2: on time, But like when you hear the cloud, the

707
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Speaker 2: cloud isn't up in the air and invisible. It is

708
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Speaker 2: big storage components that store data. It's stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: It's the infrastructure of AI and the cloud, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: That's what.

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Speaker 2: Ser Yeah, all of that kind of stuff and ways

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Speaker 2: of processing and hold. All of these data centers are

713
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Speaker 2: big hubs where you have a lot of it there.

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Speaker 2: Way oversimplifying this is not correct, but it's close enough

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Speaker 2: to make the point. I mean those places would be

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Speaker 2: where the cloud is. That's not really true, but it's

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Speaker 2: along those lines. If it helps you understand, and if

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Speaker 2: it doesn't help you to understand, you know, you know,

719
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Speaker 2: go find Charlie Sykes's podcast, listen to him. Krevlin, all right,

720
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Speaker 2: this is the Mark Belling podcast. You know, you pretty

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Speaker 2: much knew this would happen until like today. The Democratic

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Speaker 2: race for governor. I mean we're only in October. We're

723
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Speaker 2: ten months away from the primary. The Wisconsin primary is late,

724
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Speaker 2: it's in August. I think they should move it to April.

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Speaker 2: I think it's ridiculous that the political parties fight one

726
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Speaker 2: another for eighteen months and fight the opposition for only

727
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Speaker 2: two and a half months. And it's hurt the Republicans

728
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Speaker 2: more than the Democrats, because the Democrats don't have primaries anymore.

729
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Speaker 2: It's the Republicans that beat one another up. We should

730
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Speaker 2: move the primary to the spring election in April, so

731
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Speaker 2: that the actual focus is the running against the Republican

732
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Speaker 2: rather than Republicans beating.

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Speaker 3: The other up.

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Speaker 2: And so anyway, the Democrats had this free for all,

735
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Speaker 2: but Tony Ever's not running for re election. There isn't

736
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Speaker 2: an obvious era parent but the Democrats hate contested primaries.

737
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: Now again the public should choose the candidates, but it's

738
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Speaker 2: bad for the party. We've seen this on the Republican side,

739
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Speaker 2: I mean, perfect example is Clayfish versus Michaels. The people

740
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Speaker 2: on the losing side through what tantrum, suck their thumbs,

741
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 2: sit in their hands, bitch, and then my side loses

742
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: the general election by two points and before people think

743
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Speaker 2: that that's a bashing Clayfish in her supporters. Had Michaels lost,

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Speaker 2: some of his people would have done the same damn thing.

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Speaker 2: It's just a problem, and the Democrats figured it out.

746
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: They tell you're you're not gonna run. They just tell

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Speaker 2: me you're not gonna run. The last the only time

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Speaker 2: that this didn't this strategy didn't work for them was

749
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Speaker 2: when they had the three way contest for the United

750
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Speaker 2: States senator run against Ron Johnson in twenty two. They

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Speaker 2: had Alex Lasri, Sarah Godluski, and Mendela Barnes. With six

752
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Speaker 2: weeks left in the race, Barnes had a lead in

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Speaker 2: the polls. That meant the only way for Godluski and

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Speaker 2: Lazy to win would be to go after Barnes.

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Speaker 3: With the baggage that he had.

756
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Speaker 2: The Democrats didn't want fellow Democrats to tarnish Barnes and

757
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Speaker 2: beat him up. They just got him to drop out

758
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Speaker 2: of the race. They both dropped out ending the primary. Now,

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Speaker 2: it didn't work out for them because I think you know,

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Speaker 2: twenty two was a Democratic year and twenty two was

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Speaker 2: the same year that Evers beat Michaels. Ron Johnson won

762
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Speaker 2: that race. Had the candidate been Lazri or Godluski, maybe

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Speaker 2: Ron would have lost. Mendela Barnes was a terrible candidate

764
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Speaker 2: with more baggage than you see on the ground floor

765
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Speaker 2: at Mitchell Airport. Thankfully that happened. Nonetheless, the Democratic strategy

766
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Speaker 2: of clearing the field has been effective for them. But

767
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: this time around, how are you going to clear the field?

768
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Speaker 2: Sarah god Luski wants to run for governor. She's the

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Speaker 2: Secretary of State now, Josh called the attorney General's been

770
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Speaker 2: that forever. He's got more ambition than just about anybody

771
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Speaker 2: in the state. He wants to run. Sarah Rodriguez is

772
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Speaker 2: the Lieutenant governor, which is kind of a nothing job,

773
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Speaker 2: but it's called lieutenant governor, and she has the advantage

774
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Speaker 2: of being a female there are others. You've got every

775
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Speaker 2: dippy lefty in Madison. You've got Hong running, you have

776
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Speaker 2: Missy Hughes, who's the head of the state's Economic Development Association.

777
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Speaker 2: And you have killed the dingbat Royce, the woman who

778
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Speaker 2: said that Trump was going to come into all the

779
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Speaker 2: women's houses and steal other birth control pills. I'm still

780
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Speaker 2: waiting for that to happen. Well, any lefty reporter asked,

781
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Speaker 2: kill the hell come that didn't happen, or she's still

782
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Speaker 2: there hiding them things? Think that Trump's going to come

783
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Speaker 2: in any day now. I mean, they missed the entire point.

784
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Speaker 2: We weren't after your birth control pills, We're after your illegals.

785
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: She's thinking Tom Holman's going to come in and take

786
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: away you know, stealer eyud or whatever it is. Well,

787
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: the Democrats don't want this free for all. The first

788
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: thing that happened is Sarah god Luski said, I'm not

789
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Speaker 2: going to run for governor, running for lieutenant governor. The

790
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: deal on that is, Sarah, you get our endorsement running

791
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Speaker 2: against Ron Johnson in twenty eight. All right, but what

792
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Speaker 2: do you do about Josh call. Two things happened yesterday. First,

793
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: the Democrats laundered legally two million dollars to Sarah Rodriguez's campaign.

794
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Speaker 2: Many people don't understand the impact of this at this

795
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: stage of the game in a primary, that's a ton

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Speaker 2: of money. The money comes from a group that nobody's

797
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: ever heard from before, the Democratic Lieutenant Governor's Association.

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Speaker 3: How does this work?

799
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Speaker 2: Imagine I'm a big shot behind the scenes Democrats, zillionaire.

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Speaker 2: Example of such would be Soros, and you know Soros Junior.

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Speaker 3: Now is the new Soros or the Pritzkers or Hoffmann.

802
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: There is a limit, of course, as to how much

803
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: money you can give a candidate, but I can give

804
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Speaker 2: the Democratic Lieutenant Governor's Association as much as I want,

805
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: and you simply turn around and kill them. You give

806
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Speaker 2: it to Sarah Rodriguez. By the way, that's legal. It's wandering,

807
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: but it is allowed under our system. They'll go back

808
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: to the citizen in United's ruling and so on. And

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Speaker 2: the Democrats just take greater advantage of it because they

810
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: have way more big money donors than Republicans do. So

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Speaker 2: this donation comes in now to Sarah. This is a

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Speaker 2: message to Josh Call. We've decided it's not you it's Sarah.

813
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Speaker 2: Josh Call then immediately announces I'm running for re election

814
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Speaker 2: for Attorney General again. So apparently he's going to have

815
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Speaker 2: to be the attorney general for the rest of his

816
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: life because they're not going to allow a white guy

817
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Speaker 2: like him to run for governor. Now, I do think

818
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Speaker 2: Call would be a tough Democratic candidate to run for

819
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 2: governor against. Democrats don't have much particular desire to run

820
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Speaker 2: a white guy for anything.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 2: Sarah Rodriguez is not Latino. She's that's her last name,

823
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Speaker 2: be a marriage.

824
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Speaker 3: But she is a woman.

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Speaker 2: She's got her bonafides. You know, she's from the Milwaukee suburbs,

826
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Speaker 2: she's from Brookfield, she's been the lieutenant governor. The one

827
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Speaker 2: thing is Evrs's team, that wing of the Democratic Party

828
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: can't stand her. And from what I've been able to

829
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Speaker 2: pick up, Sarah over the last few years, has wanted

830
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Speaker 2: to raise her profile, and you know, they just want

831
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Speaker 2: to keep her down there because they didn't want somebody

832
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Speaker 2: making their own way in that office.

833
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Speaker 3: But she's the one.

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Speaker 2: So all these other Democrats are there this two million

835
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Speaker 2: dollars that had dropped in and at some point we'll

836
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Speaker 2: find out who kicked in the two million that the

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Speaker 2: Lieutenant Covenant Association had, and you can do it through

838
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 2: any number of other groups. You can create democratic organization

839
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Speaker 2: for this, and it's not like it's.

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Speaker 3: Not done on the Republican side.

841
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: Big money Republican donors will give a lot of money

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Speaker 2: to just off the top of my head, a couple

843
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: of the big Republican political organizations, and they'll then use

844
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: the money to support a candidate. So the Democrats have

845
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: anointed Sarah and I just think it's overwhelmingly like she's

846
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Speaker 2: going to be the candidate for govern In the meantime,

847
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: the only two Republicans of note or importance that are

848
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Speaker 2: running are Gosh Shuman from Washington County and of course

849
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Speaker 2: Tom Tiffany Northern Wisconsin. I want to briefly update a

850
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Speaker 2: story that I did on the last podcast we did,

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Speaker 2: the one we released on Monday that would have been

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Speaker 2: number sixty eight. I commented on how the City of

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Speaker 2: Walkershaw on its website they're shilling to create a new

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Speaker 2: garbage fee. You create a garbage fee so that you

855
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Speaker 2: take it off the property tax roles, and therefore you

856
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 2: can use your property taxes for everything else and create

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Speaker 2: a brand new fetus separate the garbage. It's a way

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Speaker 2: of creating a tax sike. And in order to make

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Speaker 2: the case for this, they created a graph that showed

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Speaker 2: reported to show how the property tax levee has lagged

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Speaker 2: behind the increase in the consumer price Index. And as

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Speaker 2: I pointed out on Monday, while the numbers on the

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Speaker 2: graph were correct, they plotted the graph inaccurately. There were

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Speaker 2: years in which the CPI went up at a lower

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Speaker 2: rate than the tax levee, but the tax levee on

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Speaker 2: the graph was listed as a higher number. And the

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Speaker 2: place where the thing ended you saw that there was

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Speaker 2: a chart over on the side showing with the numbers

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Speaker 2: they had the property they had the CPI going up

870
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: way higher on the graph visually than the corresponding number.

871
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: In fact, in reality, the CPI has gone up on

872
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 2: an annualized basis over the last ten years one percent

873
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: more than the Wakashaw property tax levee, So it has

874
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 2: increased at a greater rate than the tax levee, but

875
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: nowhere near with that graph made.

876
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: It appear well.

877
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: I called them out of that, I've gotten a response,

878
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: They said, I hadn't gotten a response at the time.

879
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: Of the podcast. I ever response from Sean Riley, who

880
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: is the mayor of Wakashaw, and he basically says somebody

881
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 2: in the data, the people produced the data screwed up.

882
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: He said it was not deliberate. He said the graph

883
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: was reviewed by numerous city staffers and nobody caught it,

884
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: and they've since corrected it. Is this plausible? Is plausible?

885
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: Paul says no. If plausible, is plausible incredible or sort

886
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: of similar words on the nobody caught it.

887
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

888
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: You do something like this, somebody's going to catch it.

889
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: Maybe not on the city staff. How I didn't catch this.

890
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: I was tipped by a resident of Waukeshaw who looked

891
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 2: at the chart and said, look at the best they're

892
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: pullet air. If it wasn't caught, it was because of this.

893
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: They've so bought their own bleep. Oh my god. Property

894
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: taxes are not rising at the same level our costs.

895
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 2: They've been singing this song and dance in the suburbs

896
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: forever that our costs are going up faster than our

897
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: tax revenues are going up. In fact, they are but

898
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: minuscule one percent annualized. So the notion that every year

899
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 2: the CPI was going up at a higher rate than

900
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: the growth in the property taxes. They probably didn't even

901
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: question that, even though anybody who might pay attention to

902
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: economic data would certainly know that the CPI is more

903
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: valuatable than property. That property, the property tax levy growth

904
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: is based on new construction. In some of those new houses,

905
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: they pay new property taxes. You've got a data set it.

906
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: There'll be more property. You get that that would be

907
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: there's rarely massive movements in that. There can be if

908
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: somebody puts in a big housing development or an office

909
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: tower or something, but the CPI goes so you would

910
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 2: just assume they cross a few times. That was the explanation.

911
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 2: In the meantime, there is the larger point of should

912
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: walk Shaw or any other city create a garbage tax.

913
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: We can't cut. We can't cut.

914
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: You see the chart. Costs are going up fast the

915
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: property tax.

916
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: Levey well I made one observation of the mayor that

917
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: he doesn't like to hear. Many communities have part time mayors,

918
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: some communities have full time mayors. There's no particular well

919
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 2: I actually do think the full time mayor is a

920
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: better governmental model. But you can make the case that

921
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: a part time mayor is a more appropriate way to go.

922
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 2: When you have a part time mayor, you then hire

923
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: a city manager or a city administrator to run the

924
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: day to day and tell everybody what to do. If

925
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: you have a full time mayor, the mayor could do that.

926
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: For instance, President of United States, you know, Trump's in charge,

927
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: and he tells his people that did this, that and

928
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: the other thing. Same thing with the government. Well, the

929
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: governor is a bad example. The governor he had a city,

930
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: he had a governor manager of Maggie goll ran the

931
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: whole state while Pony Ebers was sitting there trying to

932
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: figure out whether or not his fly was zipped or not.

933
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 3: Well he was.

934
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: And I could tend probably badly, how many times they

935
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: since he's with the governor that they tend to tell

936
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: Tony to zipp fly.

937
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 3: Daily. I mean, it's happened to me.

938
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 2: You're going to deny that it's ever happened to you

939
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: or anyway, I clearly digress. Why if you have a

940
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 2: full time mayor, does Walker Shaw have a full time

941
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 2: city administrator? And by the way, they go through them

942
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 2: right and left. The latest is a guy named Brown

943
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: the average waytime is like two years. They tend to

944
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: hire city managers. It's just a racket. Some of them

945
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 2: have a commitment to the community and they stay for

946
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 2: thirty years. Most of them bounce every two or three years,

947
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: moving up to a larger city, get a bigger salary,

948
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: build the resume. How do you run a city when

949
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 2: you don't know the city? It would be like when

950
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: I was a talk show host. If I just suddenly

951
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: got a job in Saint Louis, I know the same

952
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: amount of Saint Louis that anybody who follows the news

953
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: would pick up on. But how can I tell I

954
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: have no credibility in there? How do you come in

955
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 2: and run walk a shaw when you're from somewhere else. Well,

956
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: if you have a full time mayor, you don't need that.

957
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: Get rid of that department and get rid of a

958
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: couple of the people under that, and maybe.

959
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: You've suddenly closed that gap.

960
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: Every community in this state can cut and every one

961
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: of them that says you have to create this fee,

962
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: or we have to go to the voters to overspend

963
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: the revenue, cabs, etc. They're all full of crap. There

964
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: isn't a government budget out there that I don't think

965
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: I could cut, and I'd have to see each one

966
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: of them before I could do it. But the point

967
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: still stands, all right, this story the Edison. There's this

968
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: company that blew into Milwaukee from Madison, called it Neutral,

969
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: and they had this grand plan to take two whole

970
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: blocks of Water Street in Milwaukee and do five buildings.

971
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: The first one they actually were moving forward with, it's

972
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 2: a high rise called the Edison. As for the other four,

973
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 2: you may recall it in a segment. Well, I think

974
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: it was back in the radio show days and not

975
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: the podcast. I quoted somebody prominent in Milwaukee development. I

976
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 2: did not name him, who told me he thought that

977
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: this idea was plausible in Dubai, but not Milwaukee.

978
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 3: He didn't think any city in.

979
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 2: America was big enough to handle what they were proposing.

980
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 2: In other words, and this is a guy who would

981
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: have credibility.

982
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 3: There's a lot of developers.

983
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 2: But but the one project they were moving forward was

984
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: the high rise called the Edison. And indeed two three

985
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: high rise rental projects have indeed been completed in Milwaukee.

986
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 2: The Contur got completed through thirty three North Water got completed.

987
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: Prior to that, ascent got completed, so maybe this one

988
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: could make a go of it. Construction, as you if

989
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: you've been following the news, was halted two weeks ago.

990
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: City officials are freaking because they now have a hole

991
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: in the ground, very unsafe. Also, they've laid the foundational

992
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: work on there. If they don't take action prior to

993
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: the weather, that could all cave.

994
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 3: And so on.

995
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 2: They've stopped construction normally when you could stop construction, Why

996
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: is that, Paul, you run out of money, thank you?

997
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 2: Or you thought you'd get financing and you didn't. They

998
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 2: haven't said, but they stop construction. The guy who is

999
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: the CEO of Neutral, the company from Madison's twenty seven

1000
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: years old.

1001
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: His name is Nate Hellbeg.

1002
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: When you look at the company's mission statement, it's all

1003
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: this save the world stuff. They want to do mass timber,

1004
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: in other words, create break quality of life while making

1005
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: the planet better. The presumption therefore, is that he's a lefty.

1006
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: I don't think he is a lefty. His family, the

1007
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: hell Boc family. But the standards of Madison, they're.

1008
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 3: As right as you can be.

1009
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how you could be right

1010
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: and live in Madison, But they're conservative case Lbeck say,

1011
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: ex Badger, I mean the business that they ran, they

1012
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: just said you can come in without a mask. They

1013
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: were big in the homeschooling committee and so on. So

1014
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 2: I don't know that he's a lefty, but maybe in

1015
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: order to do developments you need to put in that

1016
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: and this whole mass timber thing. Maybe it's a good idea,

1017
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: maybe it isn't. In any event, he's still twenty seven.

1018
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: I just think he's in over his head. In the meantime,

1019
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: there's a significant risk of the City of Milwaukee with

1020
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: regard to the safety of a project like this downtown.

1021
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: That's a giant hole, and at some point the city

1022
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: might have to move toward condemnation. But the counter to

1023
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: that is sometimes developers are able to go through on things,

1024
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: but it slows you can you just take.

1025
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 3: Away their property.

1026
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 2: It is, however, in indication that this whole thing of

1027
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: five other buildings and all of this especially I think

1028
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: water Street's the craziest thing to.

1029
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 3: Do it on is borderline wacko.

1030
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: Another political story for you, This is a flip the

1031
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: script story.

1032
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 3: We all know this.

1033
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: Conservatives can't win Wisconsin State Supreme Court elections. You know

1034
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: this though, right.

1035
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: But.

1036
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 2: I think liberals are fearful they can't win State Court

1037
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: of Appeals elections. We have three layers of courts in

1038
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 2: Wisconsin Circuit Court. Those are each county circuit judges. Any

1039
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: case do no matter what kind of case it is,

1040
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 2: criminal case, corporate dispute, any case that's decided in circuit

1041
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 2: court that has appealed, and you have a right to

1042
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: appeal anything. All appeals are heard by the Court of Appeals.

1043
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: The Court of Appeals has several districts around the state.

1044
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 2: Milwaukee County is its own district. District two is all

1045
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: of southeastern Wisconsin except Milwaukee County. There are several judges

1046
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: on the Court of Appeals. One of them is Lisa Neubauer.

1047
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: Lisa Neubauer, by the way, has the distinction of being

1048
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: the only liberal to lose the state Supreme Court race

1049
00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin in a decade. I hate picking eye and

1050
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: Jeff Newbauer or her husband was a panelist on my

1051
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: TV show Billing and Company, but that that is what

1052
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: it is. Their daughter, Greta, she's the leader of the

1053
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: Democrats in the Wisconsin Assembly. Lisa Neubauer is a judge

1054
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: on the State Court of Appeals. Anthony Lecoco is a

1055
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: very sharp conservative lawyer, and he's running for that seat.

1056
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: What does Lisa Neubauer do? She just punted. Lisa Neubauer

1057
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: announced she is retiring. Here's why she's retiring. Lecoco was

1058
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 2: gonna beat her. See all this national money that comes

1059
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 2: to liberals for our state Supreme Court elections, they're not

1060
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: going to fart around with the Court of Appeals. So

1061
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: back on the Court of Appeals, you can run the

1062
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: kind of candidates campaigns that used to win in Wisconsin,

1063
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: but running against all this lefty crap and overturned convictions

1064
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 2: and all.

1065
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 3: The other stuff that left us do So, Lisa.

1066
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: Neubauer, she's over sixty five now, rather than lose an

1067
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: election and go out humiliatingly, she's going to leave with

1068
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 2: her boots on and walk out and say that she's

1069
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: going to retire. They'll try to recruit I'm sure another

1070
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,439
Speaker 2: liberal to run. Now, here's the thing. The state Court

1071
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 2: of Appeals is important. Why very few cases decided by

1072
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: the Court of Appeals ever get to the state Supreme Court.

1073
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: That's just the end. I think it's one person. I

1074
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: used to know this. It's in the range of one percent.

1075
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: The State Supreme Court handles only a handful of appeals.

1076
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: The Court of Appeals handles every single appeal, So they're

1077
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: the last word a lot of times. When are they

1078
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: not the last word anything important? All the big stuff,

1079
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: you know, Act Tenerant, that all gets to the State

1080
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: Supreme Court. So the stuff that is huge and controversial

1081
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: and divisive, Supreme Court gets there. So if our side

1082
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 2: dominates the Court of Appeals, it's not like it's a

1083
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 2: bad thing, but it's nowhere near as big.

1084
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Speaker 3: A deal as the State Supreme Court as the say.

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Speaker 2: I just think I have explained so far today's program

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01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: numerous stories that people might not have thought through her

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01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 2: head inside on, haven't I I said this at the beginning.

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01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: I don't think I oversold the just a lot of

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01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: different content that I covered from numerous areas that's in there.

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Speaker 2: We have one story to go that's more than Neutral has.

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Speaker 2: On the Edison, they don't have one story.

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Speaker 3: They have all thirty five or fifty three or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It has stories too. Well, that's the problem. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's not Winter Rise through anything. I forget the a

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: site like that. They're concerned that the foundation work that's

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01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: in there will not survive winter if it's not sealed

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Speaker 2: off and so on, and so you know it's possible

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Speaker 2: that Neutral that's the company, could seal it off and

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Speaker 2: winter rise.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: They continue to try to seek money, but if they're bust,

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01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: if they're tapped out, they may be on the verge

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Speaker 2: of walking away from this thing. And I mean people

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Speaker 2: were concerned about the old Northridge site with people setting

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01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: all those fires in anything here there's nothing has set

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01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: fire too, but I mean, go pass it, just fencing

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Speaker 2: around it and so on. It's not a good thing.

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Speaker 2: It's also to me not surprising that this project is

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Speaker 2: going nowhere. First of all, I'll admit I've been wrong

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Speaker 2: about something I've been saying for fifteen years. The downtown

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01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: Milwaukee housing market is getting overbuilt and new high rises

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01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: keep going up and they keep getting killed. So I

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01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: mean it's one of those things you predict something long enough,

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01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: eventually you're going to be right. So I don't want

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Speaker 2: to claim right about this. This development company just to

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Speaker 2: me to not have credibility to do it. There's certain

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Speaker 2: developers that have done zillions of projects, and you you know,

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Speaker 2: the Russians have done numerous projects they go through Berry Mendel's,

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01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: then numerous projects they go through Johnny Maassalo's, the numerous

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Speaker 2: projects they go through, Gino Cataldo's done projects they've gone through.

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Speaker 2: So when developers do project and I've just just named

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Speaker 2: a few of them. Company from Chicago. This company came

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Speaker 2: in and they proposed it, as I say, five buildings,

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Speaker 2: three towers, thousands of residents, mini city, all on Water Street.

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Speaker 2: What as they say, the one that made the most sense,

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01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 2: which is how they got some financing, is the high

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01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 2: rise because they've been popping up. I will tell you, however,

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Speaker 2: the Couteur remains half empty.

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Speaker 3: This is a year now now.

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Speaker 2: I haven't checked the numbers, as that number of half

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01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: empty is two months old. I'm concerned about whether or

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01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 2: not that project is going to stay financially viable. It's done,

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01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: why isn't it filled? I mean, well, it takes time.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, a lot of these buildings are filled

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01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 2: the day that the minute that they open, right, So

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Speaker 2: I just I think that probably what's happened here, and

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01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: maybe the thing that's facing the Edison with regard to

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01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: the financing is people that know questioning is downtown Milwaukee's

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01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: high rise apartment thing. Is it finally overbuilt? And again

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01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: I can say yes because that's what I believe. But

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01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 2: I thought it was the case years ago, and it wasn't.

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01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 2: There's been an overwhelming desire on the part of people

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01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: to live downtown, the third ward east side. Now moving

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01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: forward Walker's Point and someone the population boom has just

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01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: been incredible. At the same time, every other part of

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01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 2: the city has shriveled in population. But it's just like

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01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 2: the price of gold right now, I'll throw this in quickly. Oh,

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01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: I think gold is getting overvalued. I'm not saying it's

1149
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 2: time to sell. I would not give you that advice.

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01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 2: Gold just costs four thousand dollars. I mean, if you

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01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 2: bought gold when it was eleven hundred and you're looking

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01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 2: to unload some of it, I would not say it's

1153
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 2: a bad idea to sell some of it. Now gold

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01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: could go to fifteen thousand.

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01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,439
Speaker 3: There's a utul. I didn't tell you, boy.

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01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 2: It just seems what's the term frothy. It's like everything

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01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 2: that's a bubble is obvious after the bubble bursts, hard

1158
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 2: to tell that something's a bubble, you know. And people

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 2: said that about the housing market in six or row seven,

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01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 2: and other people denied, Well, they're right. It was a

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01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 2: bubble and it burst brutally, and all the signs of

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01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 2: a bubble in retrospect, creating divot derivatives one thousand times

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01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: to one of the actual underlying just to be able

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01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 2: to match the mortgages. There were not enough mortgages for

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01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: people to be able to invest in. Everybody wanted to

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01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 2: own the mortgages the money who owned. How could Housing's

1167
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 2: not going to go down. It's the surest thing in

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01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: the world. So you created all these the revenues were

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01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 2: looking at it in retrospect, you're creating fake mortgages just

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01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 2: so people can pretend to be investing in in set

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01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 2: of a bubble, right what was it was?

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01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 3: But not everybody knew it at the time.

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01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: There are people who think of right now, that AI

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01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: is a bubble, that some of these company stock valuations

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01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: are insanity. Maybe they're right, maybe they're not open. AI

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01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: strikes me as a bubble in Vidia. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: on should I get to that other story or to

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01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: these five stories that I just did, since I had

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01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 2: one more story, did they suffice well? Should I get

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01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: to the other story or not all right, then I

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Speaker 2: will coming up next on the Marked Belling podcast. This

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01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: is the Mark Belling Podcast. I talked to people who

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01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: live near downtown Milwaukee. Of course, the ones that are lefty,

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01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: they all know that what Mayor Chevy's doing to the

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01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 2: city streets is insane.

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01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 3: They just won't say so. Lefties have it.

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01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 2: It's impossible for them to say that something other lefties

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01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 2: are doing is stupid. It's like, I'm sure a lot

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01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: of lefties thought that what we were doing during COVID

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01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 2: was stupid, all the shutdowns and putting masks on and

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01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 2: so on. I'm sure a lot of lefties didn't buy

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01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 2: that the Wuhan virus came out of like the wet

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01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 2: market in China, and it didn't come from the lab

1194
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 2: and all this stuff. But then I gotta say so,

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01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 2: just like, but you know, when Biden didn't enforce the border,

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01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 2: we're letting ken million illegals come in, and there were

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Speaker 2: probably some left thought this was stupid.

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Speaker 3: We'ren't gonna say so.

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Speaker 2: We saw that when Biden decided to run for reelection,

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01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 2: numerous lefties thought that but was stupid. Hardly any of

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01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: them said so until Biden fell apart during the debate,

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01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 2: and there are probably a lot of lefties who realized

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01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: that Kamala is a babbling idiot. She should not be

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01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: annoyed and be given this position. You needed to stand

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01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: up and speak out and say no. Put in Shapiro

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01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 2: or somebody else. But they can't do it. So there

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01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: are lefties who know that the stuff that we're doing

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01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: on the streets, and it's you create these dedicated bike lanes,

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01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 2: which means you put a second curb way out into

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01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 2: the middle of the street, and then you put a

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01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 2: bump all curves where at the end of the street

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01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: the concrete comes out even farther to make a right

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01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 2: turn impossible, and so on, and you put these little

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01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: humps in the middle of the street to create left

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01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: turn only lanes. It's all an attempt to essentially gridlock.

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01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 2: They trying to gridlock because this is their way of

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01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: stopping the people driving recklessly through the city. Now, I

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01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: would suggest an easier way of doing it is when

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01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: you catch somebody who's driving recklessly through the city, instead

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01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 2: of giving them a ticket that they aren't going to pay,

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01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: you lock them up and put them in jail. That

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01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 2: would be my suggestion. But instead of Milwaukee, we've made

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01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 2: the streets impossible to drive on in an attempt to

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01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 2: address the minority of people who are driving recklessly, and

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01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:17,839
Speaker 2: they've been doing us on more and more and more streets.

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Speaker 2: The first street that they did in none was Zamburen,

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Speaker 2: and I think a lot of lefties thought that would be.

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Speaker 3: The only one.

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Speaker 2: Well, now it's this one, and this one, and this one,

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01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 2: and this one and this Now the latest they're going

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01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 2: to do it to Water Street. The only north south

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Speaker 2: thoroughfare in downtown Milwaukee that has several lanes in each

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Speaker 2: direction that you can move through is Water Street. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing even you know why they've picked Water Street

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Speaker 2: a big one because of the reckless driving that's going

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01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 2: on every night when people are turning the donuts. And

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01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 2: I admit, you're not going to be able to turn

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01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 2: your donuts and all this when this is put in,

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01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: because you can't even drive on these streets when they're

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01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 2: like this. However, for all the entertainment complexes and hotels

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: and businesses and just how else are some people supposed

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01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: to get from one end to downtown to the other.

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01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 2: To put this in there you're going to take a

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01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 2: trip that might take in an afternoon, say seven minutes

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01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: that traverse from say let's say Cliborne to Brady Street

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01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 2: on Water probably five to six seven minutes traffic. You're

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01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 2: talking twenty five or thirty. So may Or Chevy's gonna

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01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 2: put in all the bump of curbs and do all

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01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 2: of this and so on it. Like I said, I know,

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01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 2: there are lefties who think that this is stupid. I

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01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 2: never I've never heard one of them say isn't this great?

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01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 2: You know, the ones that don't drive, perhaps the ones

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01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 2: that are either just ubering or they use the stupid

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01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 2: scooters to get around town and so on that you

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01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 2: know that don't like cars. But even lefties who drive,

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01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 2: they all hate it. They just aren't ever going to

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01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 2: admit it because they can't break ranks. I mean, I

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01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: don't know what. You know, you got the same kid

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01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 2: hotel down there that's owned by the Mark because they

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01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 2: like this, this would have been. This pretty much seals

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01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 2: the fate. I think Paula the Edison, now this thirty

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01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 2: five story high rise that they want to do that

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01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 2: they can't get off the ground. They're going to have

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01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 2: the street ripped up for a year and a half,

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: or you can't pass through it at all while me

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01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: or Chevy's putting at his bump pulker, Mabby, you.

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01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 3: Want him to drive vicousy anymore? All right?

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01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 2: The continuing attempt by Mark Belling too right, shock and

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01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 2: all with brilliant football picks against the point spread will

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Speaker 2: continue on our next podcast, What am I ninety two

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Speaker 2: and one?

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Speaker 3: Five and one? That's pretty good? Pretty good, five and one.

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Speaker 3: The moment I start crowing too much is when I'm

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Speaker 3: when at tea loss anyway? That's that ye.

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