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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening along. Phone calls were welcome. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Before we get into the Bengals and the

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Speaker 2: Bearcats out of the by, I have a couple of

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Speaker 2: things here, Austin one, the arbitration numbers and the decisions

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Speaker 2: that the Reds have the head of them. Can I

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Speaker 2: give you three players and tell me what you would

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Speaker 2: do with them? Yep, Austin Hayes. You can buy Austin

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Speaker 2: Hayes out for a million dollars, or you can pay

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Speaker 2: a twelve million dollar mutual option.

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Speaker 3: I would buy them out.

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Speaker 2: Brent Souter two hundred and fifty thousand dollars buy or

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Speaker 2: a three million dollar team option. I would Scott Barlow

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Speaker 2: one million dollar buyout, or a six and a half

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Speaker 3: I would buy him out. So you're good with none

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Speaker 3: of them correct. If you had to pick one of

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Speaker 3: the three, Scott Barlow, Yep, it would be Barlow. Hayes

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Speaker 3: was just not available enough. That was the knock on

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Speaker 3: him coming in, and he wasn't available for much of

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Speaker 3: the season.

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Speaker 2: I love Suitor. I think he's great in the community.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know how.

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Speaker 3: He's a vibes guy. But he's not worth that much money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that'd be a hard one to write

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Speaker 2: three million for him. Also, I saw this from Lance

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Speaker 2: McAllister per bet Online. With MLB free agency starting tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: the next team odds for Kyle Schwarber. The Reds are

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Speaker 2: the odds on betting favorite at plus two to fifty.

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Speaker 3: Why.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Mets are three to one, Cubs are

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Speaker 2: four to one, Yankees are five to one. Bet On

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Speaker 2: line has the Reds at five to two plus two fifty.

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Speaker 3: Okay, maybe they know something we don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that'd be fun. I just don't see the

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Speaker 2: Reds doing it.

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Speaker 3: Last year, the Reds had a payroll of one hundred

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Speaker 3: and nineteen million dollars because I believe, twenty third in

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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball. This year, as of now, they have

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Speaker 3: fifty eight million dollars in payroll allocations. So they still

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Speaker 3: have to figure out you know, those three things we

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Speaker 3: just talked about, yep, and with extensive work needs to

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Speaker 3: be done to the bullpen and so on. Any Kyle

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Speaker 3: Schwarber deal would basically put you at what last.

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Speaker 2: Year's total was, correct. I just don't see how to

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Speaker 3: And again, Nick Kral said in speaking with the media

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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty million dollars again. Yeah, so all,

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Speaker 3: but you know it is going to be you know

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Speaker 3: the other it's gonna be another anniversary for the big

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Speaker 3: Red machine. I know they did it, you know, together

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Speaker 3: last year, but hell do it again in for the

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Speaker 3: seventy sixty. Why not get people in the seats?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something to continue to watch. We'll get to a

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Speaker 2: phone call here in just a couple of minutes. Let's

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Speaker 2: start with the Bengals. Austin Bye week is here. There

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Speaker 2: is so much that this team needs to improve on.

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Speaker 2: If I asked you to limit it to just three,

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Speaker 2: what are the top three improvements that this Bengals team

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Speaker 3: Tackling, tackling and tackling is that. That's what I want

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Speaker 3: to say. Tackling, tackling and tackling tackling is number one.

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Speaker 3: I mean the top two leaders in the National Football

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Speaker 3: by the way, who Jalen Battle, his brother said, is

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Speaker 3: So that's one. Number two. I would like to see

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Speaker 3: some efficiency. This is nitpicking, but some efficiency when it

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Speaker 3: ball situation that cost Evan McPherson the missed field goal.

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Speaker 3: That needs to be cleaned up. They have gotten better

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Speaker 3: Can you be more north and south and west?

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Speaker 3: Can Taj Brooks carbattle role now that samaj p Ryan

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Speaker 3: in past protection on the offense, but especially on special teams.

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Speaker 3: Ryan Rico had a much better day. Punt coverage had

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Your top is my top. Tackling this is one

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Speaker 3: Worst tackling team I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the worst defenses, if not going down

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Speaker 2: Football League. So tackling is up on the list. I

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Speaker 2: also think coming out of the buy for this team,

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Speaker 2: you in your team, And I think for this Bengals team,

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Speaker 2: it's pivotal for Al Golden to do some self scouting,

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Speaker 2: not a high pressure team. Maybe we need to tinker

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Speaker 2: We need to find ways to add pressure with looks

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Speaker 2: that we have. Can we utilize in a self scout mode,

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Speaker 2: But you can scout the efficiency in the running game

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Speaker 2: and how this offense has clicked since Joe Flacco has

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Speaker 3: Running games sneakily disappeared against.

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Speaker 2: You're no longer a rookie. You've played nine games in

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Speaker 2: Now you get a buye, you get a reset. Can

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Speaker 2: out of the buy needs to be improved upon. I

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Speaker 2: know I talked about this earlier with you, Austin, and

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Speaker 3: I would start by, don't play the way you did

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Speaker 3: they did. I think Mo made an interesting point. I

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Speaker 3: I forget exactly how he said it, but basically there

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Speaker 3: let it spiral. Specifically with Brendan Soresby became a little

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Speaker 3: for me, I would like to see how do you

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The other one for me would be, don't eat the cheese. Oh,

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Speaker 3: if you keep winning, if you're in this situation dangling

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Speaker 3: out there, don't eat the cheese. And maybe getting your

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's all that applicable. I'm just

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Speaker 3: looking for stuff for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, can I give you my last one?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Uh, nip at Night please? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not going to be against Arizona.

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Speaker 3: They don't have anything to like, they don't control that,

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Speaker 3: I understand. But Nip at Night against BYU would be ideal. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This team was playing with some of the most I

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Speaker 2: just saw the way they carried themselves. You saw the

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Speaker 2: how to deal with a loss, That to me is

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Speaker 2: one of my biggest questions. This team spiraled down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned last year, they were playing so confidently

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Speaker 2: in that seven game winning streak. You can't allow that

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Speaker 2: bigger body of work. You've got to play with confidence.

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Speaker 2: When you play with confidence, you play so much faster,

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Speaker 2: give yourself every chance to win. So this the confidence

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Speaker 2: get Dante Corleone has been banged up all year. Jake

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Speaker 2: Golde left the Utah game. They won. Need to make

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Speaker 2: sure they're healthy. But this is a defense that is

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Speaker 2: giving up one hundred and fifty five yards per game

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Speaker 2: which is what they average. Well, here's the deal. The

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Speaker 2: They run it for two sixteen a game. So you

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Speaker 2: Now. I think Joe Royer is a second or third

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just wanted to I'll tell you one thing

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Speaker 6: I mean, come on, now, can you manage in a

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Speaker 2: That's a goot easy thing to me though, Jeff, is

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Speaker 6: But you know, if you just suit him up and

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Speaker 7: Do the fly pattern.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was the thought last year.

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Speaker 4: The thought was it's gonna scare him.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if we can beat him or not.

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Speaker 6: I'm just telling you what. We got to do something.

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Speaker 6: And secondly, I would say that this week if we

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Speaker 6: you know, replace the eight people we got to We

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Speaker 3: Well, I would try accept twenty million dollars a year.

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Speaker 6: I just think that's always worked.

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Speaker 3: Now, okay, but why would he accept that if he

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Speaker 6: Maybe Okay, I just wish that was something they could

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Jeff, thank you?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 3: Is offensive problem?

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Speaker 3: Okay? No is is anybody worried about Jermaine Burton?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 2: No? I you think if the Steelers seed.

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Speaker 3: Jermaine Burton, they're gonna gurinate down their leg?

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Speaker 2: I mean optically, I've always thought it was just like, okay,

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Speaker 3: Right, there's something there Like.

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Speaker 2: There was a talk last year about well, can you

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: And when he did it, he was actually good at it.

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Speaker 2: He caught a couple. But if you're in year two

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Speaker 8: All right, start bench cuttfellers.

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Speaker 2: Would you rather foster dogs on the regular?

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Speaker 10: And granted you don't know what dogs you're getting, would

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Speaker 10: you rather adopt a shelter dog and you can't take

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Speaker 10: some major problems now, but could be a sweetheart. Or

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Speaker 10: if you had the money, would you go Tom Brady,

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Speaker 10: you're out and clone your dang old dog?

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Speaker 2: Personally, I don't know if I trust that.

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Speaker 10: Then I've seen pet cemetery one too many times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm going, Uh, I think I'm going shelter, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the rescue, the rescue side of things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I guess I would binge foster doggs.

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Speaker 11: He's talking about a rebuild for the Bengals and they

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Speaker 11: But does anyone asked Joe Burrow how he feels about

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Speaker 11: a demand to trade. Be like, absolutely not. I'm already

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Speaker 3: I would imagine I think everybody thinks they know what

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Speaker 2: I would imagine that they would have any conversation with him.

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Speaker 12: Happy hump they everybody boy talkbacks. Never disappointed. They're just

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Speaker 12: a big hodgepodge of everything. You had wrapping Ronnie dropping dives,

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Speaker 12: Pooh talk and and just whatever analogies and stuff you

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Speaker 12: Paul Danner Junior said, in his mind, the Bengals trade

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Speaker 12: and Trey Henderson would be like the front office saying

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Speaker 12: they're waving a white flag on the season. What do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I certainly see some of that, and I see

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Speaker 2: if you pull one hundred fans Austin, how many of

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Speaker 2: this year? Correct?

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Speaker 7: Tony Body put up? Boys, listen, what is demetrious night

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Speaker 7: sportin battles? Tino Stone Stone probably ahead ahead of it.

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Speaker 7: You're running a league with pokers, Terry vs.

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Speaker 13: I think.

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Speaker 7: Let's get after it was today.

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Speaker 3: I had somebody tweeting at me Sunday swearing up and

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Speaker 3: down that Joe Flacco fixed the game because of his fumble.

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Speaker 3: Oh so that's the world we live in.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'll tell you what. Mam'son seven. I watch out

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Speaker 2: because because Cooper flag hasn't been looking great.

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Speaker 3: So ma'since seventies to get a new microphone. Man.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hi, my name is Johnny Johnny, and uh I'm

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Speaker 2: a Bengals fan. Hey john Hi Johnny, Yeah, I get it?

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Speaker 2: Hi energy, Howie here.

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Speaker 3: Tony Pike.

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Speaker 9: At the beginning of the season, anytime you heard welcome

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Speaker 9: to the Jungle, he would make some odd sounds like

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Speaker 9: he was auditioning for a nineties Herbal Essence commercial. Kids,

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Speaker 9: look it up. Oh oh, and now now he sounds

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Speaker 9: like an auditioning for a Pepto Bismo commercial. My, how

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Speaker 9: the mighty have fallen?

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Speaker 3: You been tough, high energy, Howie. I like that.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Hey, energy, Howie.

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Speaker 13: I was just thinking about all the conversations about Duke

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Speaker 13: Let Zach Taylor go. I would get the scouting department

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Speaker 13: except for the two new guys that were brought in,

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, this DJ. Yeah.

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Speaker 14: When you look at yesterday's trade moves and such moves

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Speaker 3: But they have a plan.

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Speaker 13: What do we do?

439
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Speaker 2: Stand pat and do nothing and that kind of sums

440
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Speaker 2: it all up. That's what we are. Nothing.

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Speaker 3: They traded Logan Wilson. Oh, oh, there's seventh. I would

442
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Speaker 3: like to know, like, what's the plan?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 3: That's to ask to spoil our segment about questions, you'd

445
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Speaker 3: ask Duke Tobin, what's the plan.

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Speaker 2: This hour? Is brought to you by Skyline. Jilly.

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Speaker 15: Whenever you're feeling good and hungry, it's Skyline time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 8: You know, there's one thing I get tired of hearing

450
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Speaker 8: from Cincinnati Bengals fans, especially in this area, and it's

451
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Speaker 8: I'm done or if they don't do this, I'm done,

452
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Speaker 8: or if they don't do that, I'm.

453
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Speaker 2: Never watching again.

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Speaker 3: Stop it.

455
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Speaker 2: It's a lie.

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Speaker 8: And the ownership knows that they're going to continue to

457
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Speaker 8: do the same things over and over again, and you'll

458
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Speaker 8: continue to watch and spend your money.

459
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Speaker 2: So you've got two options.

460
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Speaker 8: Either find a new team or except the fact that

461
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Speaker 8: you're going to continue to root for a incompetent team

462
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Speaker 8: that doesn't win, to win as much as everybody else does.

463
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Speaker 2: It's the ongoing circle of life that is, you're angry,

464
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: you're sad on Mondays, you're angry on Tuesdays. Wednesday comes,

465
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Speaker 2: you start to turn the page and then figure out

466
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Speaker 2: ways to win on Thursday and Friday.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I likened it to and you can speak to this

469
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: better than me. Is marriage. You love this person, You've

470
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Speaker 3: committed to this person. They're not always going to make

471
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Speaker 3: you happy. They're going to upset you. They're going to

472
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 3: have arguments, You're going to disagree about things. There will

473
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Speaker 3: be times when you don't talk. There will be times

474
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Speaker 3: when you avoid one another. Sometimes you're sleeping on the couch.

475
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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, that's the person

476
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Speaker 3: you committed to spending your life with, and you still

477
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Speaker 3: love them and care about them and are committed to

478
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Speaker 3: finding solutions to the issues that you face together. Yes,

479
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Speaker 3: that's what it's like being a Bengals fan hundred percent. Hey,

480
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 3: the Tony Tuna breath. It must be a slow day

481
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Speaker 3: at fifteen thirty. If Austin's talking about being scared about AI,

482
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Speaker 3: he should be scared about Michigan. That's the first ranked

483
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Speaker 3: team that Ohio State's gonna play. Was gonna say number one.

484
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Speaker 3: That's false, Tuna breath.

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Speaker 2: I've never rate now no Tuna.

486
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Speaker 3: Do you like tuna?

487
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Speaker 4: No?

488
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Speaker 3: I mean neither. That's nasty. Also, last year the loss

489
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Speaker 3: to Michigan that broke me. That was and it was

490
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Speaker 3: in a way that I was like, Okay, I can't

491
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Speaker 3: do this anymore. And then I realized I had to

492
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Speaker 3: come to grips with the reality that that game doesn't

493
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Speaker 3: matter anymore. I want it to. I wanted to be

494
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Speaker 3: the singular thing that determines the season. I want that

495
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Speaker 3: to be the super Bowl. But it doesn't matter anymore.

496
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Speaker 3: And so because of that, I don't even get worked

497
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Speaker 3: up about it. I still I say Michigan. Now I

498
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: used to not say Michigan incredible what incredible growth? So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I I don't expect Ohio State to win

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Speaker 3: that game, because why should I?

501
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Speaker 16: Hey, guys, Steven Montgomery to trying to get you for

502
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Speaker 16: Trey Hendrickson at this point, But the franchise tag for

503
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Speaker 16: a defensive end next year is estimated to be twenty

504
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Speaker 16: six and a half million dollars. Isn't that somewhat of

505
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Speaker 16: a bargain for Trey Henderson? And they could still tag

506
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Speaker 16: and trade him next year or tag and play him

507
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Speaker 16: next year, even though he may wint and complain a lot.

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Speaker 13: He did sign the contract this year to allows it.

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Speaker 14: What do you guys think?

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Speaker 1: Take Sharon, thanks for all you guys do.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Can you imagine the circus that would

512
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Speaker 2: ensue with Trey Hendrickson and the Bengals on a franchise tag?

513
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we talked about this when he signed his

514
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Speaker 3: current deal is that you can essentially tag him, and

515
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Speaker 3: it makes sense, and it kind of is the deal

516
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Speaker 3: that we all would have won it. I think the

517
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Speaker 3: Bengals fleeced Trey in the most recent contract negotiation and

518
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Speaker 3: now they hold all the power and it would make sense.

519
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Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, it comes down to is Trey worth it?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 3: And maybe to your point earlier, does Trey decide back?

523
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Speaker 3: Still bother me? Him still bothering me because he does

524
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: one out? That's a possibility to the point where the

525
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Speaker 3: players in the league do that he's so you know,

526
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: he plays so poorly or doesn't play enough, or his

527
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: injured to where the Bengals are like, well, we can't

528
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Speaker 3: spend twenty seven million dollars on him and then he

529
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Speaker 3: gets out. I mean, I guess that's a possibility. Repping

530
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Speaker 3: the city out here in the sunny hot zone.

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Speaker 2: What up, Tony? What upo man?

532
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Speaker 5: The college football rankers is the only rankings that matter,

533
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 5: not that top twenty five.

534
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Speaker 2: We lost our.

535
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Speaker 5: Credibility nationally getting dog stumped out there in Utah.

536
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Speaker 3: You see, cannot be good teams even though.

537
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Speaker 2: We control our own destiny. The Big twelve.

538
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Speaker 5: I mean, just get the Dallas and we'll figure it out.

539
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 5: Come on front office as a joke from the Bengals.

540
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 5: Seen it in the nineties, Young fans, that's how it

541
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Speaker 5: is to be a Bengals fan. Welcome to all world,

542
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 5: and man, I'm going got over Bob, Bob Miller.

543
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Speaker 2: Dude is man.

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Speaker 9: Deal.

545
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Speaker 3: Let's go Cats. Since the shirts there, it is God, God.

546
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: Over them mount.

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Speaker 17: The thing about them is they've never truly made a

548
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 17: decision about the team's conviction. They've never truly blown the

549
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Speaker 17: whole thing up, and they've never truly went all in

550
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Speaker 17: to go forward. They're a stand pat organization that just

551
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Speaker 17: goes with the flow and hope things change instead of

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Speaker 17: making things change conviction.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 18: Hey, guys, Paul from Cleves double devon Hair, My question

555
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Speaker 18: is for you guys, what are the Bengals holding Duke

556
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Speaker 18: topin for? Is it because he's you know, friends of

557
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Speaker 18: the family. I don't understand this guy. I don't understand

558
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Speaker 18: the lack of a recruiting department or a scouting department

559
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Speaker 18: or whatever. Are we just finding bare minimum coaches at

560
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Speaker 18: league value? We're not paying for coaches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an answer I don't have. I don't have

562
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Speaker 2: the Duke Tobe answer.

563
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the scouting department has continued to expand

564
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: or up to nine total people in their personnel department.

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Speaker 3: I know that's not a lot, but it is more

566
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Speaker 3: than what it used to be. Coaching. I don't know

567
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Speaker 3: that's a Zach Taylor issue, the coaches that he hires.

568
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: That's that's on Zach.

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Speaker 12: Hey fellas, I know we don't talk about Kentucky basketball

570
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Speaker 12: that much on this show, but if you didn't see

571
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Speaker 12: that Colin Chandler post.

572
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Speaker 2: Or dounk oh yeast night, yes, you don't know what

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Speaker 2: you're missing.

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Speaker 3: Do yourself a favor and take a gain or that.

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Speaker 2: Yep, we're gonna talk about We're gonna talk about Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: all right, Right, I'm not great at impressions, but I'm

577
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Speaker 2: gonna give this one a shot. So here we go.

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Speaker 3: Nick Kral on the phone with Kyle Schwarber.

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Speaker 19: That's twelve fifty one PM. I don't know if this

580
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Speaker 19: talk Tack's gonna make it, considering in the last few days.

581
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Speaker 19: I don't want to beat a dead horse. So did

582
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Speaker 19: you guys happen to see someday Denny Hamlin cruising to victory?

583
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Speaker 19: He's gonna get his first championship. The elusive championship caution

584
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Speaker 19: comes out. William Byron cut a tire, Everyone comes down

585
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 19: pitt rode. Kyle Larson takes two tires. Denny Hamlin and

586
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Speaker 19: his crew took four tires. Lost track position, He lost

587
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Speaker 19: the league. He couldn't catch up to Kyle Larson, and

588
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Speaker 19: he stole the championship.

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Speaker 8: It was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tough break for Denny Hamlin. I'm a Hamlin because

591
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Speaker 2: he's a Jordan guy.

592
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Speaker 20: Even Hey, guys, Marcus from the grove. A little bit

593
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Speaker 20: late on the weekend, Let's just say I dressed up

594
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Speaker 20: as a fireball bottle for a Halloween party. So that

595
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Speaker 20: goes to show you what kind of weekend I had.

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Speaker 20: But out of the Wildcats, the Bearcats FC, and the Bengals,

597
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Speaker 20: who on this earth would have guessed that the Kentucky

598
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Speaker 20: Wildcats was the one to get the win for the weekend?

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Speaker 3: Unreal?

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Speaker 20: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Knowing Marcus, I would imagine there was a I mean

602
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: that man can drink some fireball now.

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Speaker 15: Hey, congratulations to frequent since C three sixty guests Keegan Nicholson.

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Speaker 15: He was signed by the Cincinnati Reds yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Congratulation, tops tops.

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Speaker 15: One of my favorite topics is players in the NFL

607
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 15: who have Super Bowl rings that you might not realize

608
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Speaker 15: have them. Kenny Anderson has a super Bowl ring. He

609
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Speaker 15: was quarterbacks coach for the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Cjuzama, Tanner Hudson, Bernie.

612
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Speaker 19: Kosar, Yeah.

613
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Speaker 3: Cj Usama with the Eagles last year.

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Speaker 13: Hey, Tony, Jeff and New Richmond. Real quick, my three

615
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Speaker 13: Bearcats improvements. Scott Saderfield needs to make sure that this

616
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Speaker 13: loss from last week does not become a losing streak breach.

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Speaker 13: You need to make sure that Brendan Soresby regains his confidence,

618
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Speaker 13: especially after the last game. And number three, you need

619
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Speaker 13: to make sure all the mistakes that happened out Utah

620
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Speaker 13: get corrected and that the team moves forward.

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Speaker 2: Take care. Thanks.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know it's ironic that you were talking about

623
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Speaker 4: this Tony just a minute ago. But I was thinking

624
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Speaker 4: about this the day that there was sixty plus talkbacks

625
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Speaker 4: that actually never even got aired on Monday, if I'm

626
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 4: not mistaken, But walking from the West side here, I'm

627
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: wondering why we didn't create any pressure on that last

628
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Speaker 4: drive with fifty seconds left. They rushed three and left

629
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Speaker 4: the other eight back there and prevent defense where they

630
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Speaker 4: just got completely picked apart. Why didn't we rush anyone?

631
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had that conversation years ago when when Kansas

632
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Speaker 2: City converted the fourth and fifteen or fourth and seventeen

633
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Speaker 2: last year. You know, it's just I don't know, man.

634
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Speaker 2: They still would have liked them to see pressure. They

635
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Speaker 2: still had Caleb moving around a little bit, but it

636
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: was just with one and that's that's that's much easier

637
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Speaker 2: for a quarterback to navigate, especially when Caleb Williams has

638
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Speaker 2: that elusive spin out that no one seems to be

639
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Speaker 2: able to have an answer.

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Speaker 14: Tony Austin balling an't easy talking to a brick wall again.

641
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Speaker 3: Leaving this talk back late, not gonna.

642
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Speaker 19: Make it on, but if it does, shout out to Goodie.

643
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Speaker 14: The offensive coordinator for Taalawan to Tozy's friend, heard you.

644
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Speaker 20: Talking about that Wendon Low middle linebacker, first.

645
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Speaker 3: Team All Conference as a sophomore. That's my cousin, dog

646
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Speaker 3: Go Braves.

647
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Speaker 15: Also, yeah, use Joe Royer like Penn State used Tyler Warrener.

648
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Speaker 3: Just get him the ball.

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Speaker 2: Love that love that.

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Speaker 21: Just because our office doesn't want to try and do anything,

651
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Speaker 21: I figured just for fun, but also maybe kind of serious.

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Speaker 2: Was there anybody on offense.

653
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Speaker 21: You would consider just trying to play moneyball with flipping

654
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Speaker 21: to the other side, fun conversation, Mitch Tinsley. Maybe throw

655
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Speaker 21: him at safety Matt Lee nose tackle, just to try something.

656
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Speaker 2: Now, I mean that was Audent Tate for years, moving

657
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Speaker 2: to tight end, moving to tight end.

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Speaker 3: M hm, talk that's going He's going offense to defense.

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Speaker 2: No, that's tough, though. I don't know that I would.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's anybody that comes to mind.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Drew Sample obviously is just a do it

662
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Speaker 3: all beast. He could probably play free safety, he could

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Speaker 3: probably play edge, probably put him in slot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is there anyone on the offense that could

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Speaker 2: generate any pressure on a quarterback or tackle? I mean,

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Speaker 2: Jamar is a good tackler. I wouldn't put it past

667
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: Noah Fan okay to maybe be an edge rusher. By

668
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Speaker 2: the way, we like to crap all over the Bengals

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Speaker 2: for lack of aggressiveness, The Noah Fan signing has worked

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Speaker 2: out pretty well. Yeah, I think that's been a good addition.

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Speaker 8: If orangin Black fandom is like marriage, I guess that

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Speaker 8: makes the Bengals, lorrain a Bobbitt.

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Speaker 2: That's tough.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that reference. Yikes, that was our last one.

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Speaker 3: Oh so they just tweeted that exact same thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, that's you don't want to be

677
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Speaker 2: a bobbit. Okay, we'll just keep it at that. All right,

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Speaker 2: we'll come back. We got a football in the NATTY

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Speaker 2: next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station thanks to

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Speaker 1: Grunch you in part by bud Light and by Oakley

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Speaker 1: Greens on ESPN fifteen point thirty, the official home of

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back football in the NATI. It's a

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Speaker 2: bye week addition for the Bearcats and the Cincinnati Bengals,

686
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Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean the NFL and college football aren't

687
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Speaker 2: in full swing. The weekend slate for the National Football

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Speaker 2: League starts tomorrow night. It starts with the Raiders and

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Speaker 2: the red hot Denver Broncos. Broncos Austin one of the

690
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: best teams in the league right now, and bow Knicks

691
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 2: might be the best fourth quarter quarterback in the league

692
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Speaker 2: right now. Playing at an unbelievable level. A little bit

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Speaker 2: of tea bow time in old boat t bow time

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Speaker 2: t BO nix man. When that clock turns to four

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Speaker 2: or when that that that quarter turns to four, he

696
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: plays at a completely different level. Broncos are playing really,

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Speaker 2: really good football. They get a home game against the

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Speaker 2: Raiders on Thursday night football Falcons against the new look Colts.

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Speaker 2: Not sure Saft Gardner's availability because it's a Berlin game.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine you're not going to see much from him.

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Speaker 2: But that is your early start Monday. You think he's

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Speaker 2: gonna play. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You don't trade for the guy if you don't expect

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Speaker 3: him to play. I mean, Josh Downs already changed his

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Speaker 3: jersey number. He did number two to match his guy

708
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: Caleb and Ohio State. He did, he did aka a

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Speaker 3: third Downs. But yeah, I mean, I figure Sauce is

710
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Speaker 3: going to play. Okay, why no, it's just Berlin. Everybody

711
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Speaker 3: can fly to Berlin.

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Speaker 2: Right, Giants, Bears, Bill's, Dolphins, Ravens, Vikings, Browns, Jets.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Okay, how about I bet Browns Jets

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Speaker 3: will be the best game of the weekend.

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Speaker 2: How about this Patriots Buccaneers. Okay, I'm listening easily right now.

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Speaker 2: Game of the weekend. I think Sunday Night football is

717
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: good this week as well. Chargers Patriots era Steelers. That's

718
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Speaker 2: a good one. What about this one? The one and

719
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Speaker 2: eight Saints at the five and four Carolina Panthers. Painters

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Speaker 2: got a shout to go to six and four playing

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Speaker 2: some good football coming off a huge upset against the

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Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers. Carolina got something working, Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 2: Jaggs Texans, Cardinals, Seahawks. Uh, Jacoby Brissett's gonna be the quarterback. Yeah,

724
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Speaker 2: still dealing with his foot injury.

725
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Speaker 3: And of course I think cal Duty comes out soon,

726
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Speaker 3: so Tyler's gonna be down for a while.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Seattle is a fun team, man. I mean those guys

729
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: are seven point favorites in that game. It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 3: You get.

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Speaker 2: Rams Niners. I saw stat earlier today. It's it's hard

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Speaker 2: to go against it. This might be Matthew Stafford's statistical

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Speaker 2: best season he's played.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing. He's been incredible.

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Speaker 2: Lions commanders both teams coming off of lost Lions looking

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Speaker 2: to bounce back, not as much juice and you mentioned

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Speaker 2: Steelers Chargers. How about the Monday night game Eagles on

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Speaker 2: the road against a team looking for a big bounce back,

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Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: Did you see that there is a company selling Philadelphia

741
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Speaker 3: cream cheeseheads for Eagles fans going to Green Bay? So

742
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Speaker 3: it's just instead of the Triangle cheese that Packers fans

743
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Speaker 3: where it's a block of Philadelphia cream cheese. That's good.

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Speaker 3: That is so funny. That's gonna be a fun matchup

745
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Speaker 3: the Packers. I mean, people are so mad at Matt Lafleur,

746
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Speaker 3: and understandably so, that offense just goes dormant at times.

747
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Speaker 3: I mean, you think of all the guys that have

748
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Speaker 3: come out of the Sean McVay coaching tree in recent years,

749
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Speaker 3: offensive minded dudes. You can make the argument Zach Taylor

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Speaker 3: is the best play caller out of any of them. Wow, Okay,

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Speaker 3: am I crazy? Do we kind of forget that?

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Speaker 13: Now?

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Speaker 3: It's two straight years of elite offensive production from this group.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to go that far. It wasn't the

755
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 2: running game wasn't good last year. I put a lot

756
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Speaker 2: on the quarterback. There wasn an elite offensive production when

757
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: Jake Browning was in Okay, what about Joe Flacco. I

758
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: think Joe Flacco brings a lot to the table himself.

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Speaker 3: He did a pretty good job with Jake Browning in

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Speaker 3: the first time around in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened this year?

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Speaker 3: I get it, and I get it, but I'm just

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Speaker 3: saying two years in a row, this is among the

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Speaker 3: best offenses in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, I'm not gonna go on. You could

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Speaker 2: go on that limb. I'll stay off that one. Okay.

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Speaker 2: College Football Weekend Ahead. The headliner Lubbock, Texas BYU Texas Tech.

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Speaker 2: Number seven, verse number eight. If it were Purdue basketball,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State Purdue would be a fun one.

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Speaker 3: It's Purdue football. They stink. Ohio State's a twenty nine

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Speaker 3: and a half point favorite. Bluck guys never played good

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Speaker 3: there in West Lafayette. Big it is, so we're all clear.

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Speaker 3: Big SEC Weekend Austin, Old miss gets the Citadel Okay

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Speaker 3: Texas A and M Missouri Texas A and M obviously

775
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Speaker 3: getting some love. Number three in the College Football Playoff

776
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Speaker 3: rankings Oregon Iowa nine, Verse twenty.

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Speaker 2: That game is in Iowa, so maybe a test for

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Speaker 2: Oregon Kinick Kinnick Washington at Wisconsin. Wisconsin is probably wishing

779
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Speaker 2: they could have just head back to back by weeks.

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Speaker 2: They actually have to play a game this weekend. That'll

781
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Speaker 2: be a lot of fun. Cal Louisville, LSU at Alabama,

782
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Speaker 2: Navy at Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Now you were telling me yesterday before the show, Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you see, it'll be in the top twenty five. They weren't.

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Speaker 3: What was your reaction to them?

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Speaker 2: A little nearsighted by the committee? Oh, that's what I

787
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Speaker 2: would say. I would say a little bit too judgmental

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Speaker 2: on one game. They lost one tough one here in

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Speaker 2: the last eight weeks, and uh, it's against a team

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Speaker 2: that they thought highly enough of to put him in

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Speaker 2: the top twenty five, the top fifteen to the College

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Speaker 2: Football Playoff rankings.

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Speaker 3: So do you think that one game against what is

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Speaker 3: that place called Northwestern State? Oh? Does that really count

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Speaker 3: as a game on the Bearcats schedule since that's basically

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Speaker 3: a high school team? Um you think? Do you think

797
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: that actually hurts them? In almost Grambling count for Ohio State?

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Speaker 3: I mean Grambling, it's at least a long standing tradition

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Speaker 3: of excellence at that school for a long time. He's

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Speaker 3: what they used to put some dudes in the NFL

801
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Speaker 3: back in the day, a long standing tradition of excellence.

802
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Speaker 3: I said at Grambling, people forget Hugh Jackson used to

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Speaker 3: coach there. I mean, all I know is they got

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Speaker 3: walloped by Texas Southern and Prairie Ville. Why are you

805
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: making this about Ohio State? I was asking a serious question.

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Speaker 3: This again for people who want to bitch and moan

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Speaker 3: about me for making everything about Ohio State. Tony made

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Speaker 3: this should about the Ohio State schedule and New Seas schedule. No,

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Speaker 3: it was a question about Cincinnati schedule.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get credible.

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Speaker 3: You think that game works against them because of how

812
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Speaker 3: inferior that opponent was.

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Speaker 2: If they would have beat him by ten points, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean they they did what you had to do

815
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Speaker 2: against a terrible football team, and they, it's a crazy question,

816
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: beat him by seventy.

817
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Speaker 3: They stink it was a high school team they played.

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Speaker 2: Was it seventy? Was it seventy seventy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean what does the stats look like if you

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Speaker 3: take out that game? Offensively? Still pretty good?

822
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Speaker 2: I mean they scored thirty four against Bowling Greens, thirty

823
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Speaker 2: seven against Kansas, thirty eight against Iowa State forty nine

824
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Speaker 2: forty one, the Utah game. Again, Russnach hadn't missed a

825
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: kick all year. Missus a for him. A chip shot

826
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Speaker 2: swersby fumbles on the nineteen yard line going in. They

827
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Speaker 2: give up a kick return on a punt. It was

828
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Speaker 2: a comedy of airs. I think if you played tighter

829
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Speaker 2: in the first half, you got a shot to win. Hell,

830
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: they came out in the second half, they got to stop.

831
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Speaker 2: They scored a touchdown, they cut it to ten, and

832
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: they got in their So they had the ball down

833
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: ten with all the momentum in the world and did

834
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Speaker 2: nothing with it. But that that game had a chance

835
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Speaker 2: to go differently in the second half. As we both

836
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Speaker 2: talked about, I'm innteroued to see how they improve. I'm

837
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Speaker 2: mentertoued to see how they come out of a bye

838
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: after after getting punched in the gut. They did not

839
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Speaker 2: respond well last year. They will have to respond better

840
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: this year. Let's come back and put a bow on

841
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: our number two, and then let's open the door to

842
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: James Rapine, our guy, James Rapine will get us all

843
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: caught up on everything's.

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Speaker 3: James is going to join us atteen two fifteen. Yeah,

845
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Speaker 3: he just texted me that he had to audible to

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Speaker 3: two fifteen. Okay, well, how about at two o'clock. Then

847
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Speaker 3: we talked a little bit about the Kentucky Wildcats. We

848
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Speaker 3: talk a little college hoops. We'll talk to James, we'll

849
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: talk about Duke Tobin, we'll talk to Moeger. But first

850
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Speaker 3: we'll put a bow on our number two next Thanks

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Speaker 3: to Cincy Shirts on ESPN fifteen thirty, you've.

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Speaker 1: Been listening to Football in the Natti on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 1: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. Souk wise Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Wow, welcome back. We got to finish up hour number

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Speaker 2: two here since e three sixteen, thanks to our friends

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Speaker 2: at Cincy Shirts. When we come back, let's talk some

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Speaker 2: UK basketball. Let's look at the schedules ahead, a big

858
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Speaker 2: UK game next week, big UC game next week as well.

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Speaker 2: We'll look ahead or college hoops to kick off Hour

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Speaker 2: number three. Of course, we'll talk to James R. Peen.

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Speaker 2: You got a Duke Tobin question or two, and Mulager

862
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Speaker 2: for quick hits, all coming up in the next hour

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks to Cincy Shirts.

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Speaker 3: Penn station is turning up the heat.

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