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Speaker 1: Welcome back since E three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Sports station. Let's dive right into it. Our Tuesday guest

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Speaker 1: bump back a couple of minutes. Well, let's face it, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we receive free montgomery In. So Danaman had to wait.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't talked to Danaman in months. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because of the last couple of Tuesdays I've been out.

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Speaker 1: But Danaman is joining us now from Fox nineteen Joey

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Speaker 1: d what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Hie Pike? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you?

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question about eating montgomery In? Sure? Now,

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Speaker 2: my wife will not go to montgomery In with me

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Speaker 2: because when I get a full slab of rips, I

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Speaker 2: won't stop maybe eating to clean my hands and clean

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Speaker 2: my faith, because what's the point. Sure, I'm up. I'm

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Speaker 2: of the school that you eat the entire slab before

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Speaker 2: you start to clean. Otherwise you're gonna go fifteen napkins

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Speaker 2: about twenty seven wet wipes. So why not just wait

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Speaker 2: until the very end and create a big mouth of

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Speaker 2: wet wipes and napkins when you're dute?

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Speaker 1: So you're with me on that, I'm with you now,

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Speaker 1: I'll I'll lick the fingers a couple of times, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not bringing the wet nap. The wet

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Speaker 1: wipes out every time I pick up the ribs.

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Speaker 2: It's antie licking of the finger guy.

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Speaker 4: But like, do you not take a drink of anything

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Speaker 4: or do you put your your your grubby paws on

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Speaker 4: the on the glass.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're using the bottom of your palms then to

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Speaker 2: get your drink, right, you know, you're dripping it there

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Speaker 2: and drinking that way, not to use the fingers.

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Speaker 3: That's well said, well said.

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Speaker 4: I think we should put like a bucket of water,

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Speaker 4: you know, like you do with them, you know they

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Speaker 4: do with water colors, dip and just you know, go

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Speaker 4: in there and do that.

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Speaker 1: I think that would I mean, it makes sense, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Dean's still out there. I can

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Speaker 1: run out there and ask him real quick. I see

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Speaker 1: if you'll incorporate that. Okay, that was in your opinion,

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Speaker 1: and Joe was the Kyle Schwarb or anything that actually

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Speaker 1: had traction. I caught myself buying in earlier today. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: all right, there's enough out there. This seems like it

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Speaker 1: could be real. I also think that there's an element

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Speaker 1: to it where, if you're Kyle Schwarber, it's probably smart

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Speaker 1: to lead on in a way like that, for Philly

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Speaker 1: to say, Okay, we will give you a fifth year.

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Speaker 1: We'll bump this up a little bit more. Did it

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Speaker 1: ever feel like an actual realistic possibility for you.

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Speaker 2: That's why I was always skeptical. And I go back

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Speaker 2: to even interviewing him in the summer when the Phillies

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Speaker 2: came to town and we asked him a couple of

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Speaker 2: questions about coming to Cincinnati. And I'm not saying he

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Speaker 2: was disingenuous, but you think about a guy who was

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Speaker 2: playing the long game of planting those seeds, even back

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Speaker 2: at the All Star Game when he came to Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: and when he visited Middletown a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: just to go out there and say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: it would be a cool thing. Young Kyle Schwarber always

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Speaker 2: dreamed of playing for the Reds and that bumps up

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Speaker 2: maybe the Phillies off for just a little bit. So

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Speaker 2: I can't really speak from his end on how much

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Speaker 2: interest there was or if he was using that as

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Speaker 2: smoke to get more money from the Phillies. But I

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Speaker 2: can say with all sincerity the Reds made a realistic

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Speaker 2: run to try to get him. And when I say realistic,

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Speaker 2: obviously there were limitations. They were never going to be

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Speaker 2: able to reach the amount of money that Philadelphia ultimately

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Speaker 2: gave him. But when it came to getting creative with

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Speaker 2: the deal and being flexible and wanting to use deferred

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Speaker 2: maths work, Yeah, the Reds saw an opportunity here to

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Speaker 2: sell seats, to sell tickets, and to get a guy

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Speaker 2: in here who could be a big difference maker for

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Speaker 2: the team on the field and inside the clubhouse. Now

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Speaker 2: the question is how do they pivot? Because if they

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Speaker 2: were willing to go out and get creative and do

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Speaker 2: that then open the door for them to look at

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Speaker 2: other free agents, I at least free agents on his tier.

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Speaker 2: I doubt it. It kind of felt like a rare

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Speaker 2: and financial plan to bring a guy like him in here.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if they're going to pivot to

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Speaker 2: make a pretty darn good effort to get him. It

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Speaker 2: just was the Phillies are a great team, and they

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Speaker 2: have a lot of money, and at.

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Speaker 1: The end that one out switch gears to the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 1: It was a very Newsworthy day yesterday. Can you rate

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Speaker 1: these three from least to most surprising? Jermaine Burton has

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Speaker 1: been released, Trey Hendrickson's going to have surgery now, and

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins Bengals game was flexed out of prime time, So.

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Speaker 2: Least surprising would be Jermaine Burton. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: took fourteen weeks for this team to finally cut bait.

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Speaker 2: We need to move on from this guy. I will

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Speaker 2: put number two at flex. I think we all saw

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Speaker 2: that coming for multiple weeks, even though the Bangles are

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Speaker 2: now very interesting to watch with Joe Burrow back, and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the Dolphins are a playoff contender

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Speaker 2: who were as hot as anybody in the AFC right now,

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Speaker 2: and then Trey Hendrickson. It just kind of felt like

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Speaker 2: it was getting to this point. Certainly, No one knew

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Speaker 2: if it was going to get to surgery, but we

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Speaker 2: all kind of had an inkling in our head that

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Speaker 2: perhaps Trey Hendrickson's time in Cincinnati was over, that he

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Speaker 2: wouldn't take another snap for the Bengals. And it feels

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Speaker 2: that way unless some kind of a miracle run happens

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Speaker 2: that feels about as likely as Lloyd Christmas and you're

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Speaker 2: telling me there's a chance, So yeah, I would rank

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Speaker 2: them Leads, Surprise, Jermaine Burton, then Flex, and then Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 2: And it's a difficult thing with Trey Hendrickson, right because

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Speaker 2: it feels like in sports people pick sides. And it

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Speaker 2: felt like the pendulum swung a little bit with Trey

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Speaker 2: and then it swung again when he was mysteriously out

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Speaker 2: finally it ultimately gets to this point and I'm just

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Speaker 2: curious how his time will be remembered in Cincinnati if

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Speaker 2: he ultimately doesn't come back here next year.

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Speaker 1: So the time in Cincinnati, they do have the option

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Speaker 1: to franchise tag him again. When you look at the

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Speaker 1: Is there is there any path out there that you

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Speaker 1: do see the Bengals trying to franchise tag him and

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Speaker 1: whether that's tag him to play again next year or

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Speaker 1: tag him to make it easier to trade, is that

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Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about leverage that Kyle Schwarmer had,

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Speaker 2: Imagine the leverage that Trey Hendrickson. Yeah have Looking at

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Speaker 2: this roster and I think if you look at Sjamar Stewart,

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Speaker 2: expect to be a Super Bowl contending team. Those guys

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Speaker 2: might be rotational players, they might be solid pros, but

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Speaker 2: none of those three guys has shown they can be

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Speaker 2: a consistent chaos creator in the backfield. And the Bengals

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Speaker 2: had that with Trey Henderson, and when they had that,

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Speaker 2: they were at their absolute best defensively. But if you're

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Speaker 2: looking at this from the Bengals perspective on Trey Hendrickson,

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Speaker 2: even though he poisoned the water, so to speak, and

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Speaker 2: maybe this was Trey Hendrickson's play to upset ownership enough

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Speaker 2: If you have an asset like Trey Hendrickson, it's hard

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Speaker 2: with the idea of trading him. Now you would get

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Speaker 2: a competanatory pick if you didn't do that. That's a

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Speaker 2: very important factor here. But if I were looking at

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Speaker 2: best business decision moved to make for the Bengals would

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Speaker 2: be to tag him with the idea of trading him.

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Speaker 2: But they just found out this season that maybe the

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Speaker 2: trade market for Trey Hendrickson isn't as good as they

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Speaker 2: thought it would be. And now he's coming off what's

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Speaker 2: pretty major surgery. When you're talking about a core muscle

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Speaker 2: surgery that would keep him out for a month and

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Speaker 2: a half, what's the trademarket going to be for a

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Speaker 2: guy that's his age coming off that surgery and has

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Speaker 2: proven he can be kind of difficult to work with,

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Speaker 2: and you don't want to get stuck paying whatever the

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Speaker 2: a trade partner.

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Speaker 1: The feel around this team, Joe, in your opinion, because

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Speaker 1: it felt and I thought they took that ten point

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Speaker 1: then to have it fall apart in a way that's

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Speaker 1: all too familiar this year, the third and fifteen scramble

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Speaker 1: from Josh Allen, which put the final nail in the coffin.

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Speaker 1: From just a team standpoint, from just a vibe standpoint, Joe,

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Speaker 1: where do you feel like this team is right now

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Speaker 1: with four games remaining, but dealing with such a blow

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Speaker 2: It's the most what could have been feeling inside that

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Speaker 2: room that I've felt for the Cincinnati Bengals, because what

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Speaker 2: we saw Sunday was it. I mean, they're the Bangles

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Joe, Burrow, Jamar Chase and t Higgins look

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Speaker 2: like their elite selves, And you say to yourself, Oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, the James Cook fumble. This is what it

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Speaker 2: felt like in twenty twenty one. In twenty twenty two

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Speaker 2: that when the Bengals needed a play, I thought back

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Speaker 2: immediately when James Cook fumbled to the Von Bell Ramandre

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Speaker 2: and those kind of feelings where it just felt like

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Speaker 2: the Bengals were always going to find a way to

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Speaker 2: get a win even when it felt like they deserve

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Speaker 2: to lose a game. And it felt that way on

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Speaker 2: Sunday in Buffalo against there should be playoff team in December.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals are gonna come here and do this, and

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Speaker 2: already being pointed at as kind of the it team,

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Speaker 2: the dangerous team again in the AFC North. Now that

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Speaker 2: talk outside of the Cincinnati from all the national talking

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Speaker 2: heads is going to get even louder, and the Bengals

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Speaker 2: might do this, they might grab momentum, and then you

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Speaker 2: just realize, in twenty twenty five, the defense just can't

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Speaker 2: get stops when they absolutely have to have them, And

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Speaker 2: that to me was my worry before the game. I

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Speaker 2: figured it would be a fourth quarter game. I figured

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Speaker 2: the Bengals would have a chance to win the game

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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, but could they get that one

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Speaker 2: or two stops they have to get and they couldn't

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Speaker 2: do it. And it's epitomized by third and fifteen, third

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Speaker 2: and seen, and no one has eyes on the quarterback

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Speaker 2: running free for twenty yards in a game ceiling play.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback Josh Allen, by the way, not Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 1: Going forward, for this team, you mentioned facing elimination, and

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Speaker 2: Let him do what he wants to do. Now, if

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Speaker 2: That's just what NFL coaches and players do. They're wired

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Speaker 1: I always look forward to what you have coming up

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Speaker 2: Still waiting for this Sincy three to sixty night at Bengals.

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Speaker 2: You know how funny this is. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: I would imagine you got a no from Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 2: Trey Henderson's agent actually send us an email a few

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Speaker 1: Well, keep trying, keep trying, Danaman, We appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: I have a great rest of your week. Thank you.

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