WEBVTT - R+L Carriers Sports Talk with Lance McAlister 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:25.600 The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm. 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.720 All right, let's go seven oh eight, seven hundred WLW 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.559 Welcome in RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.879 Avliance Havelister. How you doing, Thanks for making your way here. 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:37.519 We've got two hours to get it done tonight. I 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:39.920 can tell you upfront. Coming up at about fifteen minutes, 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.960 we're going to start some pretty in depth Kyle Schwerber 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.880 conversation and reaction on your part to what is transpired 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:48.879 over the last twenty four hours or so. And then 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:50.760 we'll have a fun topic we'll toss in in the 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.960 eight o'clock hour as well. But let's start first right here. 0:00:54.720 --> 0:01:01.840 My first guest is from Middletown. No, he's not Kyle Schwarber. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:07.840 He created something really cool though, years ago, the MLB 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:12.840 Ballpark Passport. Think of a book to officially stamp your 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:16.679 visit to a ballpark. Well, this idea, this product has 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.840 grown so big and has had such an impact on 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:23.920 baseball fans across the country that the Baseball Hall of 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:29.000 Fame has voted to induct the original first print of 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:33.560 the Major League Baseball Ballpark Passport to be put on 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.080 display in the museum. And I said, how cool is that? 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.800 Because I had this next guest on way back when 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:45.360 let's find out all about it. Welcome in, Tim Barks. 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.440 How are you, hey, Lan? 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:48.200 How you doing? 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:49.360 I am fantastic. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:50.320 Let's do this. 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.720 Let's backtrack a little bit for those who may not 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.680 know of the idea, just kind of describe the passport, 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.480 what it looks like and how it works. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:06.240 Well back in twenty ten, I had the idea, you 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:09.000 know of in the recording your memories and your visits 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:13.640 to the ballparks. And when I got back, you know, 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.600 I had the prototype made and and everything, and I 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.880 called up Phil Cassolini of the Reds and said, hey, Phil, 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.040 I got this pretty neat idea. I want to show 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.839 you so what you think And he said, sure, Tim, 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:30.240 come on down to the ballpark. And so he loved it, 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.840 and he took it to Major League Baseball at the 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:33.600 winter meetings. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.200 That was fifteen years ago. Wow. 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.360 And and he came back and called me and said, Tim, 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.560 come on down to the ballpark. We have a conference 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:47.320 call with MLB. They love your idea. And the rest 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:52.000 is history. And that year it was the Red Season Passport, 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:56.520 which if you recall I was on your show prior 0:02:56.600 --> 0:03:00.520 to opening day discussing the first book, and I know. 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.960 Casey had one and he got one to use, and. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.080 You know, we were all such short notice that we 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:11.000 didn't have a chance to design and make the MLB 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:15.040 Ballpark Passport Book, which was for visiting all thirty ballparks, 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:19.680 and so that's what we did, you know, the whole 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:24.480 summer and in winter was creating and developing that book 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.079 for release in twenty twelve. And I just want to 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.400 say real quick that without Phil Casilini, none of this 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:35.040 ever would have happened, because he took that to MLB 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.960 on his on the cord, had an offline meeting with 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:42.920 MLB and Phil just you know, it never the day 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:43.960 of light they've had it been for him. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:45.680 I just want to tell him thanks, if he's listening. 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.920 And Tim, if I remember correctly, this all kind of 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.840 popped into your head because you you had kind of 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.360 a quest to visit. You wanted to visit all thirty 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:55.680 Major League parks to begin with. 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.640 Correct, Yes, I was already doing it. I was already 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.960 doing it. And uh I drove to uh the Arctic 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:07.280 Circle back in twenty ten and we'd already been to 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.040 a number of ballparks, and and of course, you know, 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.040 watching the Reds play as much as we could on 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.200 the road, and uh, you know when you drive to Alaska, 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:20.760 you know, yeah, a lot of time to think. And 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.120 I started thinking about growing up with the big Red 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.400 machine when I was, you know, thirteen years old in 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.520 the seventy five, and I said, you know, I've got 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:33.839 no memories at all, no ticket stubs, nothing, no anything 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.040 to remember all the visits that I had, you know, 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.239 to the ballpark with my with my dad and brothers 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.440 and sisters and in church groups and youth groups and things, 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.720 and I had nothing. And I said, I want to 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.919 throw something out there. And I would get back to 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.159 the hotel and I'd do some search, you know, on 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:54.080 my phone online and couldn't find anything. And so it's 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.080 just amazing that you know, a guy from Middletown had 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:00.200 an idea. Yeah, and you know that I went with 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.920 and you know, I was the first one to come 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:07.480 up with this idea for baseball in pathboards and so tim. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.120 If if someone has a passport, say they order the 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.800 passport from you kind of walks like when you walk 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.880 into a stadium, what happens or how is it used? 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.400 Explain it for someone who might not understand it. 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.359 Yeah, so you have the book, and so inside the 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.720 book it lists all what we call them validation stations 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.760 at all the Major League ballparks. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:29.719 And so what happens when fan comes. 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.440 In they look inside their book, they see where the 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:38.360 valuation stations are located inside the ballpark. There's multiple locations 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.560 at all thirty stadiums, and so like the red for example, 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:46.080 the Reds have I think seven or eight different stamping 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:52.080 locations listed and Dodger Stadium has like ten. So it 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.440 was grown from one, you know, from one stamping location 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:59.920 for ballpark to you know, seven, eight, nine, tens stamping locations. 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:01.960 It's kind of crazy. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:05.320 And so fans will present their book and they'll ask 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.719 for the stamp, and they'll turn to their you know, 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.080 to to the team page in the book, and uh, 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.599 the staff will roll the date to the date that 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:18.520 you're there, and they'll hand you the stamp and you'll 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.240 ink it up, test it, then stamp your book and 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.920 it has the name of the ballpark, city, Stton, zip 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.080 code to the ballpark and then the date you were there. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.520 And so once you stamp that it's ink the paper, 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:30.840 it's there forever. 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.800 Tell me the Hall of Fame news. Tell me how 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.280 you got the news, and tell me how exciting this is. 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:39.839 Yes, it was so unreal. 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.520 I've been thinking for a while because you know, next 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.719 year is the fifteenth year of the MLB ball Park 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.359 Passport Book. We released it at the All Star Game 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.760 in Kansas City in twenty twelve, and we only took 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.480 you know, we brought like something like, you know, one 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.440 hundred and fifty one hundred and seventy five books, and 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.360 we got the joking on the way in that hey, 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.880 well what if we don't sell any books. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.000 And never been done before? You know, no one had 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:10.880 ever done before. So there was no blueprint for it. 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.040 And I knew on. 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:17.680 The second day there at fantast we sold out of 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.400 our inventory and we took orders for another I think 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:26.040 it was three hundred and some orders for the next print, 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.640 and we told them up front that hey, it might 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.080 be three four five months before we have another rundowne 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.520 and they said, we don't care, we want the book. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.040 And it was at that time that I knew. 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.400 That we had, you know, something special, and so I 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.400 have to thinking about the fifteenth year and coinciding with that. 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.520 And I said, you know, I said, I said. 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.440 I wonder if the Hall of Fame would be, you know, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.920 interested in this book. And since it was the first 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.120 you know, I kept the first book off this off 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:58.640 the press and got the first stamp at Great American 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:03.840 Ballpark in it on April fifth of twenty twelve, and so, 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:05.840 you know, I thought, you know, this is this is 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.280 a part of baseball history, and you know, I'll contact 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.400 the Hall of Fame and see what they think. And 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.760 so I called and got ahold of a very nice lady, 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:20.320 Cassidy Lynt, who is the library director at the Hall 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.560 of Fame, and I told her I had the original 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:28.840 first print, first book, first stamp MLB Ballpark passport book, 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.640 and if the Hall of Fame would be interested in it. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.840 And then so then she pertea to tell me she's 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:39.760 like Tim bat the Hall of Fame Committee Board on 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:41.199 Historical Artifacts. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:42.559 It is scheduled to. 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.760 Have a meet on the I think it was the 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:50.600 first Wednesday in November. And she said, I'll take this 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:53.640 information about your books. She she knew about the book. 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.480 The Hall of Fame has sold it from the very 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:59.680 beginning they've been a part of it, and she said, 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.880 I'll see what they think, and she's all get back 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.760 to you. And so it was, you know, several weeks 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.679 that passed and and then I'm you know, in the 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:08.920 back of my mind, I had November fifth on the calendar, 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:14.560 you know. So so on November seventh, I got the 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:18.679 call and uh yeah, and so you know, and I 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:20.680 was nervous. You know, my my heart kind dropped my 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.200 stomach because I I didn't I didn't think he would 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:28.360 go anywhere, you know. And so uh, she said, Jim, 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.920 she said, the board voted to have have your book 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:33.240 put into the Hall of Fame. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.080 Unbelievable, so cool. 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.000 Yeah, so I mean it's like a baseball player gave 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.280 him the call. But that's how you really felt like it, Yeah, 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.480 you know, yeah it was. Yeah, it was so cool. Tim. 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.280 For for those wondering who I want to learn more 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.400 about it does and kind of explain the inventory here 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.760 would would if somebody wants to hit like minor league 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.960 ballparks or spring training ballparks. Is there a version of 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:59.840 that for the ballpark passport? 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.280 Yes, you you talked a little about before. 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.280 You know, the program has grown where we now have 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:12.080 stamped in two hundred and twenty four stadiums and and 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:16.920 museums and in ballparks all over the country. So we 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.000 have the MLB ball Park Passport Book, which is of 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.559 course pro visiting all thirty ballparks. It's a binder, so 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:25.320 in the most often question I get asked is about 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.440 what there's a new stadium built. It's a binder, so 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.400 you can add new stadium as the build. The book 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:35.240 never becomes outdated. We have a Game Day Book which 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:39.640 took the place of the Red Season Passport book. That 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.720 is for season ticket holders and people who frequent, you know, 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.440 multiple games, so you can stamp every game you go to. 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.840 And we have the Spring Training Passport, we have the 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:54.720 Minor league Passport, and then then we have this the 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:59.439 new Baseball Attractions Passport that was created here about a 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:05.240 year and a half, which has fifty non MLB venues 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:11.280 in it. So the Jackie Robinson Museum, yeah, Canadian Baseball 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.199 Hall of Fame. The list goes on and on all. 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.959 Right, So this would be great, This would be great 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.800 for the holidays, A great stocking stuffer for a kid 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.880 who's starting out as a baseball fan or an older 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.240 adult who's a baseball fan. Tell listeners how they can 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.960 find out more. What's the website to get more information 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:30.640 on the MLB Ballpark passport. 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:38.040 Yes, it's an MLB Ballpark Passport dot com and it's 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.439 on there. We have an awesome Facebook group also that 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:45.400 for they want some real, live, you know, working information. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:51.200 It's the Facebook group is Ballpark Stampeders, and it's a 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.600 wonderful group. They poster stamps from all over the country 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:57.680 every night. And I think now we have people coming 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.320 in from all over the world to ballgames with the book. 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:05.160 Oh uh yeah. And we're small business. 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:09.080 We don't advertise at all, and so we we've been 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.800 award of mouth. And I appreciate you so much for 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:13.040 you having me on your program. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:18.840 You got it well, absolutely, man, those were great days. 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.280 And I'm just so happy and excited for you. And 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.719 shout out to all the stam Peters listening. Shout out 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.640 to our guy Bill Bray who's listening, and congrats on 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.760 all this and and keep it rolling and keep me 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.600 posted on stuff unfolding. All right, sure, well, brother, thank you, 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.320 Thanks Tim, take care, Okay, all right, there you go, 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.679 Tim Parks, what what what cool? Just decide, I want 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:40.959 to do this. Nobody's doing this. What if we did 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.640 an MMB ballpark passport and you could take it stadium 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.240 to stadium and have it validated and jot down your 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.640 memories and moments of the game. And just what a concept. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:54.880 And now it's in Cooper's down. Unbelievable. All right, let's 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.480 do this. Let's take time out, come back a little 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.400 bit behind. We'll play some catch up, get some headlines, 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.959 then we'll talk Reds season, Kyle Schwarber and more. Rnel 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.400 Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevellete seven hundred WLW. 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.120 All right, let's squeeze in a couple of headlines. Bengal's 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.080 got to work on the Ravens today. T Higgins still 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:19.319 in concussion protocol, limited to individual drills today. Shamar Stewart 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.240 cleared to practice. He comes off the reserve injured list 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.760 Today opens up that twenty one day window he can 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.880 be activated to the roster at any time during that period. 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.079 The Bengals signed wide receiver Xavier Johnson to the practice squad. 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.600 The former Ohio State Buckeye and Pride of Summit Country 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.640 Day Join join us tomorrow night for the Roundtable Show. 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.080 I'm with Rocky log Necks and Wilder. We're there for 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.160 the rest of the year. On Thursday six to eight o'clock, 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:44.240 the big bombshell in sports, Michigan has fired football coach 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:49.040 Arn Moore. Statement from the university says an investigation determined 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.720 and they have fired him with cause determined. He engaged 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:55.600 in an inappropriate relationship with a staff member. Report moments ago, 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:59.920 indicating tonight he is in police custody. Assistant coach Biff 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:04.400 Hoji named the interim coach for the Citrus Bowl against Texas. 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:08.200 U see starting corner Christian Harrison says on Instagram today 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:12.080 he's entering the transfer portal. College basketball is underway. We'll 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.960 get you an update. I see Miami leading unc Asheville 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.680 seventy four sixty three with about five minutes to go, 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.480 and Purdue an early leader over Minnesota twenty one to 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:25.040 thirteen about eight minutes to go in the first half. Baseball, 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:30.560 the Orioles pivoted from Kyle Schwarber pivot to the Polar Bear. 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.120 Today Pete Alonzo reports say it's a five year, one 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.000 hundred and fifty five million dollars deal. The metsaw closer 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:39.200 Edwin Diaz bolt to the Dodgers yesterday. Joe Buck is 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.960 the winner of the twenty twenty six Ford C. Frick Award. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.360 He'll be inducted into the broadcasters winging the Baseball Hall 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.640 of Fame. Buck and his father Jack the first father 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.320 Son Frick Award winners. And in news that maybe only 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:56.160 jars me. Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow turned twenty nine years 0:14:56.200 --> 0:15:01.000 old today. It seems like only yesterday, and boy it 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:07.040 was a somber, if not sad Joe Burrow earlier today 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.240 at his weekly news conference, we'd ask about, you know, 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.400 the fact he seemed frustrated. His response was, there's just 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.840 a lot of things going on right now, a lot 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.360 of things going on, and when asking to follow up 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:25.320 football related are personal, Joe said, all of the above. Wow, 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:27.840 all right, we've reached the bottom of the hour. Let's 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.560 talk some reds when we come back. Let's open up 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.440 the lines five three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.040 eight hundred, the big one, your reaction to Kyle Schwarber, 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.480 My reaction to Kyle Schwarber, and what is next for 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.200 this team? As we continue with RNL Carrier Sports Talk 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.880 presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW. 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:48.800 Hey. 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.680 Coming up eight oh five tonight is the anniversary you 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:55.080 know me and anniversaries. You know Kelly would say she 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.520 would just wish as I would remember our anniversary coming 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:02.600 up at eight five, the anniversary of perhaps the most 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.880 famous quote in Cincinnati sports history. That will lead us 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:12.600 into a topic about quotes, phrases, and sayings in Cincinnati 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.720 sports history. Stick around, join us for that, Join us 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.160 now to talk some Reds. By the way, Reds Fest 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.160 coming up January sixteen and seventeen, I will have Sports 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.200 Talk live from Redsfest on that Friday night, the sixteenth, 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.720 from six to nine o'clock. I'm looking at a tentative 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.920 guest list that is out those who are appearing. This 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.360 is based on travel arrangements being confirmed at this moment. 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.720 More names added to the list. I see names like 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:40.200 Andrew Rabbit, Chase Burns, TJ. Friedel Hunter Green, Nicladolo sal Stewart. 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.800 Among the alumni, Bronson Arroyo is going to be there, 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:48.360 Doug bear Skeeter Barnes, Tucker Barnhardt, Sean Casey Friday, Danny 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:52.360 Graves Saturday, Austin kerns On Friday, Larry Luber's is gonna 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:56.680 be there, Devin Mezerako, Dave Miley, my guy. I gotta 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.160 get him on the stage for Sports Talk that Friday 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:04.760 night with Dave Myla, Sam LeCure, Chris Welsh, various broadcasters, 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.879 members of the coaching staff, you name it. All of 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.399 that information is on my X page. I'm on X 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.400 Atlance Pacallister. On that feed you can see that list, 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:16.919 or if you follow on Facebook, thank you. If you 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.320 don't join us at Lance Pacalister Sports Talk, the complete 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:25.000 rundown is there. All right, Let's let's talk Reds. Let's 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.080 talk Kyle Schoorber. Let's talk what happened and what's next. 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.680 Here's what frustrates me about the Reds. We were told 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.840 their twenty twenty six budget was going to be about 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.080 the same as twenty twenty five in the neighborhood of 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.240 one hundred and twenty million, and after resigning Amelia Pagan, 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:43.080 they were left with about ten million to spend, and 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:48.760 yet they were willing to go above the budget to 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.720 offer Kyle Schwarber a five year, one hundred and fifty 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:55.800 million dollar deal. That's twenty five million a year. That 0:17:55.840 --> 0:18:00.000 would have been over their budget. Now with Kyle Schwarp 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.879 were off the board. Nick Crawls indicated their payroll status 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:07.960 is status quo. So they found the money for the 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.920 hometown kid in an attempt to excite the fan base 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.879 and benefit from the attendance boost. But now they're not 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.400 willing to spend above the payroll to improve the team, 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.760 make it a winner and excite the fan base. I mean, 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:23.320 the shore Ber offer shows you they have money and 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.679 they can spend over the budget. They're choosing not to. 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:31.080 And how do you expect I guess, how do they 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:35.359 expect fans to take that? And I've wondered this consistently 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.879 throughout the offseason. If their twenty twenty five attendants was 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:43.760 their biggest since twenty fifteen, and they had the fifth 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:47.639 biggest jumping attendance in baseball from twenty twenty four to 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:53.240 twenty twenty five, and they aren't raising the payroll, then 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:57.639 when would they ever raise the payroll? I mean, think 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:02.320 about it. If they drew twenty six thousand plus largest 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:09.000 Reds attendance in a decade, fifth biggest jump in baseball 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.160 from one year to the next, and yet their payroll 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:18.840 is remaining the same. When would it ever go above 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:24.520 one hundred and twenty million dollars. I don't I don't understand, 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:30.240 you know, Charlie Goldsmith wrote today for Charlie's Chalkboard there's 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.720 a massive gap between Plan A and Plan B for 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:36.080 the Reds of this offseason, and he wrote the difference 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.320 reflects a lot about the Reds. They found a way 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.680 to make Kyle Schorber a real offer of five years, 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.240 one hundred and twenty five million. It wasn't enough. Now 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.960 it's back to building within. Somebody make that make sense. 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:51.840 I mean, if you if you doubt the seriousness of 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:57.000 the offer. As Charlie wrote, Schwerber and his wife visited 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.879 in person in late November with the Reds office and 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:05.040 with Terry Francona and with Bob Castelany, and the Reds 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:09.399 weren't told they were out of the race until yesterday morning. 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:18.000 And is Charlie Wright's the Reds were willing to spend 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.880 in this case, but Shorber would have been the exception. 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.280 And without that exception, the Reds have about five to 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:30.439 ten million to spend going forward. So how do you 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:36.320 make that work in the third offseason of needing That 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:44.000 Air quotes elusive bat and Nick Kral said, and I quote, 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.600 our ownership group puts everything back into the team every year. 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.680 They try to figure out how to break even every year. 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:53.239 That's how we budget. We're trying to figure out how 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.439 to best utilize that budget for the major league club. 0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:02.000 Well here's an idea. How about trying to figure out 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:07.080 how to build a winning team and instead of trying 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.760 to break even, understanding that maybe every now and then 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:18.440 you need to do more. Because the Reds and no 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:20.480 other team in Major League Baseball is ever going to 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.240 tell you how much revenue they have. It is won't. 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:25.520 It's the beauty of Major League Baseball teams. They don't 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.280 have to tell you, so they can say we put 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.560 everything back into it and just try to break even. 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:34.959 And we're we're in a position of having to accept 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.480 that of teams around Major League Baseball. It will be 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.440 a headbutting point of conversations when we had to lock 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:42.760 out after twenty twenty six with the Major League Baseball 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:44.719 players that were going to say, then show us the books. 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:47.440 If what you say is true, then show us the 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:51.359 books of your financials. And teams are not going to 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:55.920 do that. But if you can do it for Shoreber, 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:03.760 but shorebur doesn't happen. I take the pick the number, 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:08.360 twenty five million. What could you get for twenty five 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:13.119 million if Schwarber's out of the equation. Maybe it's a 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:16.960 bat in two relievers. Maybe it's a bat in three relievers. 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:23.000 I don't know. I don't know. I just can't. You 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:25.840 can't have an offer for Kyle Schwarber on the table 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:28.600 and then say, well, that didn't work out, worse status 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:35.159 quo one hundred and twenty million dollars. I get that. 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:41.439 That's what is so frustrating to me. Ken Rosenthal, the 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:44.840 athletic writing, unlike the Orioles, the Reds are not expected 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:49.000 to pursue other expensive free agents. There offered to Schwarber 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:52.960 was tied to their belief that his addition would help 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:59.360 drive ticket sales. Well, why can't it ever be by 0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:08.760 up're reading the talent winning will result in more ticket sales. 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.320 In this case, it was just let's get the hometown 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:17.760 kid and ticket sales will go up. And now they're 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:20.440 not expected to pursue anybody else. Had one hundred and 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:27.000 fifty million to give Kyle Schwarber status quo going forward 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:31.399 for everything else and that's about ten million dollars to spend. 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:37.720 Incredibly frustrating. You know, I was running the numbers today, 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.120 just some simple math, and I would love to know 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:44.080 how much the Reds baked into of this. The Reds 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:48.080 baked into their offer, because my thinking is people I've 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:51.120 talked to it's not out of whack. Let's just say 0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.640 you assume the addition of Kyle Schwarber, and I kind 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:55.520 of did this in the week leading up to this, 0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:59.520 of if what type of financial commitment you'd be willing 0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:01.679