1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: It's Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: From Cincinnati. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 3: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back since e three sixty hour two 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday afternoon underway, which means there's only one 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: place we go. It's to the phone lines. It's to 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: connect with Fox nineteen zone. Joe Daniman standing by to 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: join us right now. 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 3: Joey D. What's going on, gentlemen? 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Hi Tony, Hi Austin. How's your Tuesday? 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: It's great, it's great. So far, Joe, how far into 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: the drive? What time are you expected to arrive in 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Lubbock for tonight's game? 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: Just now passing through Little Rock? Okay, I'm debating having 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: lunch in Little Rock to see if it rains and 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: I get my first look out of Tommy Tubberville, Arkansas 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: Road strikeler. Expected to be in Lubbock right at tip time. 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: Live coverage on Fox nineteen now tonight after the game. 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: There we go, Here we go. You spend time in Goodyear. 20 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure it always goes too fast, but in the 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: time you were able to be around this team. And 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: last week we talked a little bit about the feel 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: and the way in which they carry themselves. What else 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: did you walk away with your time and goodyear around 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: this Reds ball club. 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: Here's what I walked away with. The Reds are good. 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: And you can laugh at that and say, yeah, we 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: all know this a good roster. But it's the best 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: roster I've seen in a while in Cincinnati. And the 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: question is how good? Are they that good? The question 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 2: is are they good enough to win a National League 32 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: Central title or compete for it? Are they good enough 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: to win a playoff series? Are they that good? I 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: walked away feeling yes, When they're healthy as they are now, 35 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: they are constructed in a way that I believe that 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: they should have the expectation they should be held to 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: a standard of not just making the playoffs, but now 38 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: competing for division championships in what is a good division, 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: and also the expectation and standard that this team should 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: be looked at as a team that can do some 41 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: damage in the playoffs. When you look at the starting rotation, 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: when you look at what they've done in the bullpen, 43 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: when you look at the additions they've made and the 44 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: expected steps from guys within the organization who have been 45 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: groomed by this organization. I think the expectation is, yes, 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: they are that good, good enough to win the National 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: League Central I didn't know that until I saw it, 48 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: and when you're around it, you see it and you 49 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: feel it. I think that should be the standard for 50 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: the Reds in twenty twenty six. 51 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: What question or questions do you still need answered between 52 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: now and opening Day? 53 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: Is Matt McLean good enough to hit second? Because Terry 54 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: Francona wants that to happen, and I understand why. He 55 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: profiles perfectly for that spot. He's the right handed bat 56 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: that can break up whatever a team wants to do 57 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: with their bullpen of bringing in a left hander to 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: attack TJ. Friedel and make Ellie hit from the right side. 59 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: He's a right handed hitter who's supposed to be a 60 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: contact hitter or a line drive hitter. He struck out 61 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: too much. He hasn't got on base enough. And my 62 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: biggest thing is this, if Matt Plain the all start hitter, 63 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: is still somewhere inside of him, and I still believe 64 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: he has that kind of a ceiling, I'm not sure 65 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: if there's anything he can do in spring to convince 66 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: me that the Reds should start the season with him 67 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: hitting second. We saw last year literally every single game matters, 68 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: and so I would want to see what Matt does 69 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: the first few weeks of the season, maybe with some 70 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: pressure off hitting lower in the lineup, before throwing him 71 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: in there Game one against a high strikeout pitcher, knowing 72 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: what he just came off last year. I think I 73 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: would rather see Spencer Steer hitting second to start the season. 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: I would even argue maybe Noelvie Marte hitting second, but 75 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: certainly I think I want to see Matt and what 76 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: he does in actual big league regular season games before 77 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: I would move him the second Again. Kerry wants him 78 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: to hit there, and I understand why it's the perfect 79 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: profile to put someone there, with his base running ability 80 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: and his other attributes, But until I see it consistently 81 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: for a few weeks in real games, I'm not sure 82 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: I want to put that pressure on him there, and 83 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I wanted to put him into a 84 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: high leverage position this early in the season. 85 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: How much of Matt McClain's success would you weigh on 86 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: the possibility of switching to the long pants instead of 87 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: the pants that are that are riding. 88 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 2: Up eighty percent of it, Yeah, eighty percent of it, 89 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: the other twenty his mental approach to it. I did 90 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: find it interesting when I talked to Matt out there, 91 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: and I'll pull the curtain back a little bit. You 92 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: usually don't get a lot from Matt, and he doesn't 93 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: give you a lot. He's he's a fun guy to 94 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: talk to. He's very approachable. He just doesn't give you 95 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: a lot of interviews. But what he said about what 96 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: happened to him last year, and you know, it's one 97 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: of those things you can say it and it sounds 98 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: great to say it, but can you go out there 99 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: and actually do it in a game? He said, missing 100 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: an entire season of baseball, sometimes you hang up the 101 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: competitive spirit in a closet and just work on rehab, 102 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: and you get so in tune with what you're doing 103 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: with trying to get your body back and ready to play, 104 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: that you forget to open the closet door and find 105 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: the competitive spirit and put it back in yourself. And 106 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: he talked last year about the idea of going to 107 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: the plate and feeling healthy and trying to perfect his 108 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: swing right, something that he could repeat, use and repeat 109 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: over years, instead of just going up to the plate 110 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: and just being a gamer. Something that got him to 111 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 2: where he's been at this point is just being a 112 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: competitive baseball player, the kind of guy that will do 113 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: whatever it takes to win, whether that's in the field, 114 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: in the batter's box. And he said once he locked 115 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: into that, and he said he felt that for a 116 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: couple of months. If you go back and look last year, 117 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: he had a two month stretch and Junior in July 118 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: that he was pretty darn productive and helped this team 119 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: win games. If he can tap into that and have 120 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: a full season of just being a grinder, a competitive 121 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: baseball player and able to find whatever it is that 122 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: helps him lock back in, Yeah, the pants are a 123 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: big deal, but I think him finding whatever trigger that 124 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: is that helps him flip that switch last year is 125 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: probably the bigger deal for him in twenty twenty six. 126 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: When you look at the pitching rotation. 127 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about Andrew Abbott, We've talked about 128 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: Hunter Green and the rest of this rotation, but in 129 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: talking to Charlie on Froddy, it feels like Chase Burns 130 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: is just carrying himself a different way. Did you have 131 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: any interaction or do you have any takeaways from spending 132 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: time watching Chase Burns throughout spring training. 133 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: It was quite literally the most impressive player to me 134 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: in the four days I was at red spring training. 135 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: And I use the word competitive fire, competitive spirit with 136 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: Matt McClain. The way Chase Burns carried himself on the 137 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: mound in a live batting practice against his teammates, and 138 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: just one session I saw looked like a guy that 139 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: was throwing in a playoff game or throwing in a 140 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: late September game. It was that kind of demeanor and 141 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: the way he carried himself on the mound. I think 142 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: this whole debate for the fifth rotation spot is a 143 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: fun talking point and a good debate, and a hat 144 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: tip to both Rhet Louder and Brandon Williamson, two guys 145 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: this team is going to need over one hundred and 146 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: sixty two game season. But it's like Vince Carter in 147 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: the NBA Dunk Contest. It's like the throat slash. Now 148 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: it's over. After I saw that one session from Chase 149 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: Burns said, this guy's different the way he's approaching it. 150 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: The stuff, the addition of a change up, We'll see 151 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: how much of a weapon that becomes for him this year. 152 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: If he masters it or even gets it to a 153 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: point where it becomes just a third pitch for him, 154 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: good luck to hitters in Major League Baseball trying to 155 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: figure him out with him throwing one hundred and one 156 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: hundred and two miles per hour and then adding a 157 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: change up on top of it. So the whole idea 158 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: that Chase Burns is fighting for a fifth spot, I 159 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: think the narrative should change. Could Chase Burns be one 160 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: of these guys at the end of the season as 161 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: the regiment of the playoff series that he should be 162 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: in the playoff rotation? Because you're looking right now, if 163 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: you're in a first round series, you know, and you 164 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 2: have three pitchers, should Chase Burns be one of those 165 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: three guys? You would say, no, it's Hunter Abbott Lodolo 166 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: if everybody's healthy. But I think by the end of 167 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: the year, I would not be shocked if Chase Burns 168 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: is one of this team's top three pitchers, maybe even 169 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 2: top two pitchers. Now we'll see how many innings we'll 170 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: see if he throws the you know, the full complement 171 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 2: of thirty starts. I think that's probably a little bit 172 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: far fetched to think that'll happen. But from what I saw, 173 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: I think he's closer to top three in the rotation 174 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: than he is actually competing to be in the rotation. 175 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: And I think that's because of how ready he was 176 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: at spring training on top of the talent he already. 177 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: Has you mentioned Williamson and Rhet Louder. Do you think 178 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: there was ever or has been ever a s thought 179 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: of entertaining a six man rotation or has that never 180 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: been an option in your opinion? 181 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if it's been talked about 182 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: within the organization. I wouldn't want to do it just 183 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: because look, when you construct a lineup in baseball, and 184 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 2: we talked about the Red lineup earlier in this conversation 185 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: and the idea of who to hit second, it's not 186 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: just to break up TJ. Friedo and Ellie dla Cruz. 187 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: You want your best hitters at the top of the 188 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: lineup to give them as many chances is at the 189 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: plate to help you win a game. And again, if 190 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: you go back to look at what we expect to 191 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: be a very highly competitive National League Central, and even 192 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: if the Reds don't make this Central, a very highly 193 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 2: competitive National League Wild card race, Every win matters, every 194 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: game matters. And if you're going to go to a 195 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: six man rotation and take away five starts from Hunter 196 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: Green and take away potentially five starts from Andrew Abbot 197 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: and take away five starts from Nick Lodolo and Brady Singer, 198 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to do that. Now. The argument would be, sure, 199 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: you can have a better chance of keeping those guys 200 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: healthy and fresh late into the season. But these guys 201 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: are trained for this or built for this. This is 202 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: what they've done their entire professional career is go on 203 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: four days rest and then be ready on a fifth day. 204 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: So while I get it, it's a cool thing to 205 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: have seven guys, and it's a bit of a flex 206 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: to say we can go to a six man rotation 207 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 2: and perhaps take some of the wear and tear off 208 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: of a Hunter Green and an Andrew Abbott as the 209 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: season goes. But if you're in September, in your three 210 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: games back, and you had gone to a six man rotation, 211 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: and wonder what would have happened if if Hunter Green 212 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: would have had three or four more starts or Andrew 213 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: Abbott three or four more starts, You're going to kick 214 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: yourself because of your all star level pitchers. I want 215 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: those guys to have as many opportunities to help me 216 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: win as possible, and going to a six man rotation 217 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: with short circuit that. 218 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 4: Talking to Joe Danaman Fox nineteen, Joe, as you know, 219 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: today is the second Duke Tobin day of the year 220 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: as he talks to the media later this afternoon, I 221 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 4: know that the Jeremy is going to be there. What 222 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: would you ask Duke Tobin today? What do you want 223 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 4: to know from the Bengals director of player personnel today 224 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 4: at the combine. 225 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: It's so interesting because, yeah, this is typically the big 226 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: day when you're loaded with thirty questions for Duke Tobin 227 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: to try to get some answers to or at least 228 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: try to read between the lines to figure out what 229 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: the Bengals are thinking, what they're doing, and kind of 230 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: rehashing what happened last season. But we've allay done an 231 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: hour's worth of that with Duke Tobin, so it feels 232 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 2: a little bit different. So with someone with the opportunity 233 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,119 Speaker 2: to get in front of Duke Tobin and ask him questions, 234 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 2: I think Bengals fans want to move this forward a 235 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: little bit and start addressing some things now that can 236 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: be addressed now, and I think topic number one for 237 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: Duke Tobin would be is there any any clarity on 238 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 2: what this team is going to do with Trey Hendrickson 239 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: in the coming weeks, because on the table right now 240 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 2: are multiple options for Trey Hendrickson and the Bengals. I 241 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: think everybody listening to this kind of has the same 242 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 2: idea as I do that Trey Henderson won't be a 243 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: Bengal next season. But what will that form look like? 244 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: Will it be letting him walk, will it be a 245 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: tag in trade. I don't know what the Bengals plans are, 246 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: and I'm not sure Duke Tobin is going to give 247 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: us an answer today, but he has in the past 248 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: addressed these kinds of moments and these kinds of questions 249 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: with more clarity than we expected. Going back to what 250 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: t Higgins did, get your own wide receiver or we 251 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 2: tag him with the intention to play him. So he 252 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 2: has given us answers before. I think that's the important 253 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: Number one question is what will this team do with 254 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: Tray Hendrickson even if we don't believe he'll be a 255 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengal next season? And I think a lot of 256 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: Bengals fans are wondering about Dalton Reisner. What's going on 257 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: with him? Why hasn't been taken care of yet? Is 258 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: this Dalton's choice to test the market a little bit 259 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: in free agency with ultimately intention to sign with the 260 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: Bengals and maybe raise his price tag a little bit, 261 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: or can the Bengals just hit him with the deal 262 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 2: that knocks his socks off and he wants to come 263 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: play in Cincinnati. He's already said that publicly, so I 264 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: think it's trying to find a little bit of clarity 265 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: on what's going on with Trey Hendrickson and if anything 266 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: is imminent with Dalton Reisner, because I think those are 267 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: the two players that Bengals fans are looking forward to 268 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: having some kind of resolution with as soon as possible. 269 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: Do you feel like the resolution, regardless of what it is, 270 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: with Trey Hendrickson, allows you to just get to the 271 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: next part of the offseason, because it feels at times 272 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: like the longer that carries on, it takes away from 273 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: attacking all the other spots that this name needs to attack. 274 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about mock drafts of players available. Well, 275 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: if this team takes care of business and free agency. 276 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: They open their options up in the draft. Does moving 277 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: on or getting to a decision with Trey Hendrickson free 278 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: that up more for this organization to focus on what 279 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: it needs to do and avoid any distractions. 280 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: I think that's why it's a big week in Indianapolis, 281 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: and not just talking to could be prospects and could 282 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: be draft picks for the Bengals. It's a chance for 283 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: the Bengals and coaches in front office to be around 284 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: other teams and maybe have those times of conversations in person. 285 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: And I think that's why this week could be a 286 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: big week for the Bengals to maybe get some traction 287 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: towards trying to figure out if there could be a 288 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: trade partner for Trey Hendrickson. Now that's on the surface, 289 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: I would like to think that the Bengals have a 290 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: plan in mind, either Plan A or a Plan B 291 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: with Trey Hendrickson, and they have that already on the 292 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: table and figure it out so that they can then 293 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: go attack the rest of the roster and the rest 294 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: of the off season. So even if they don't publicly 295 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: have a resolution, I think internally, if they have a 296 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: resolution of plan A and Plan B they can attack 297 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: the rest of the off season. But I think your 298 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: point is good, and too many times of these kinds 299 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: of things that kind of just hung over the organization 300 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: and maybe influence decision making in the past. I do 301 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: think it's very important for this team to have a 302 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: lot of resolution before they get to the draft, so 303 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: they don't specifically have to draft for a need, and 304 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: they can have some flexibility in the draft. But I 305 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: do think it's a big week that if you're going 306 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: to find a trade partner, when the entire league is 307 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: in one building, like they will be in Indianapolis this week, 308 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: this could be a good time for the Bengals to 309 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: really test the water, have those conversations, not just talk 310 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: to process, but talk to other teams to see if 311 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: there's interest in Trey Henderson. 312 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: You know, in today's day and age in the media world, Joe, 313 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 4: everybody has a big board, everybody has a mock draft, 314 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 4: everybody has their guys when it comes to the prospects 315 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 4: in this draft. Can we expect a big board from 316 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 4: you at any point, a mock draft from you at 317 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: any point? Are there any players that you're interested in 318 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 4: at the combine? 319 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: This week. 320 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because you know, typically the Bangals are 321 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: picking so far down in the first round. I just 322 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: look at it like, Okay, I'm not going to waste 323 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: my time trying to predict what fifteen to twenty different 324 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: gms across the league are going to do. But when 325 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: the Bangle was picked top ten, then you can start 326 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: to look at breadcrumbs a little bit. And it's interesting. 327 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: The closer and closer we get to the draft, the 328 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: higher and higher it feels like some of the Bengals 329 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: targets are seeming to be mocked, and certainly, you know, 330 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: we land on the Caleb Downs. It feels like Kalem 331 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: Downs is now earmarked to go before the Bengals to 332 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: even get to him at number ten, which would be 333 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: a huge disappointment I'm sure for a lot of people 334 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati who feel like he could be an difference 335 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 2: maker for this team. Myself concluded, it feels like the 336 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 2: David Baileys and Reuben Bains, considering their skills and how 337 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: much they are valued in the NFL, might not be there. 338 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 2: It also feels like all of a sudden, Peter Woods 339 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: is starting to drop a little bit for whatever reason, 340 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: so yeah, me getting a big board done will be 341 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: just me kind of aggregating the experts in this field, 342 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: and that would be unfair. But I do think it's interesting. 343 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to being around those guys tomorrow and Thursday, 344 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: to be around those those linemen, to see what they're about, 345 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: to see how they handle themselves, to see how they 346 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: speak about themselves. And you know, you don't get a 347 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 2: whole lot right when it comes to deciding whether you're 348 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 2: gonna draft somebody from what these guys say in front 349 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: of the TV camera. But I think there's a little 350 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: bit of kind of trying to figure out what makes 351 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: them pick and what they're all about. And that's gonna 352 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: be interesting to me because it's not just Duke Tebin 353 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: and Zach Taylor talking today. You got the Bengals coordinators 354 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: speaking tomorrow. We have the Reuben Bins and the David 355 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: Bailey's and the Peter Woods talking tomorrow. Then you have 356 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: Caleb down Devailable on Thursday. So it's an exciting, fun 357 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: week to try to project and kind of needle a 358 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: little bit into these guys to figure out what they're about. 359 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: We don't get the chance to go out into the 360 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: actual stadium and watch these guys perform. The only time 361 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: we get around them is to ask them questions, either 362 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: at a podium or off the side of the podium. 363 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 2: So that to us is our chance to figure out 364 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: more about these guys, and I'm looking forward to that. 365 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: With March Madness right around the corner, I would be 366 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 1: remiss not to ask because of the fine work you 367 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: guys do at Fox nineteen with the final quarter, who 368 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: are some of the local teams that we should be 369 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: watching to have a chance to cut down the nets. 370 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: Well, Lakota West goes right to the top of the list, 371 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: right because Lakota West is so good and they've proven 372 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: all year that their special and conservative of the number 373 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 2: one ranking in Ohio. In Northern Kentucky, Cupcats has been 374 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: ranked number one before they got knocked off last week 375 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: by Madison Central, who's the top five team in the state. 376 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: So look, those aren't the only two teams. There are 377 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: a lot of teams that are going to be really 378 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 2: difficult outs. We just had Baiden's game on Friday night. 379 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: Baden's put together one heck of a season, taking down 380 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: the South for the first time in more than twenty years, 381 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: and there are so many girls teams. Simon Kenton has 382 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: been ranked number one in the state always in Cincinnati, 383 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: you look at our teams coming from the girls Catholic 384 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: leagues that could be difference makers. But certainly the Coda 385 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: West and Cupcat jumped to the top. Right now, It's 386 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: two teams that have been ranked number one in the 387 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: state with a chance to cut down nets. But Wyoming's 388 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: another team that everybody expects to take a next step 389 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: this year and maybe get to the state championship game. 390 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: We're deep this year. I'm excited for Cincinnati. It's not 391 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: just the star power of the cam Mercers and the 392 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: Joshua Tysons and all these guys that are going to 393 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: get big time college offers and recruits, but we are 394 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: really deep with teams this year. And I can see 395 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: Cincinnati sending several teams to the state tournament. I think 396 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: that's a great thing for our area. 397 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: What's everything coming up on Fox nineteen with whether it's 398 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: Reds and the Combine and we've got college hoops and 399 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,479 Speaker 1: high school basketball. What's the what's brewing with Fox nineteen? 400 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: Big day tomorrow at the Combine tone the flagship is 401 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: planting its flag with a live thirty minute streaming. 402 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: So you guys are actually at the Combine. 403 00:20:55,480 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Show, unlike you, you're at the Combine the 404 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: Flagship TV station. 405 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, is that the Combine. 406 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: One thirty tomorrow find Fox nineteen now. 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Thank you, Joe. 412 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: Big night for the bear catch tone. 413 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: Oh don't even the word insufferable will be on the 414 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: mind of many if you see wins this tonight for. 415 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 3: Me tomorrow coming to work tomorrow. 416 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: If they win five in a row, another top twenty 417 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: win and in position. 418 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 3: We'll do this. Joe to be in position, I love it. 419 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 2: Good luck tone yeap yeate. 420 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: I didn't need any more of that Now I'm ready 421 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: to go. Joe Daniman Fox nineteen awesome stuff. As always, 422 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: your talkbacks come up next to ESPN fifth teen thirty 423 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports Station. 424 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 3: Hey Google, what's happening in moon is. 425 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 5: No one covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 426 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 5: sports station. 427 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks. 428 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 6: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin in tone, 429 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 6: Please keep it clean and don't be mean. 430 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 7: At a sprinkle sprinkle, drip drips, It's. 431 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 3: That time for talkbacks. 432 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 6: It's our favorite tart Sincy three sixty. 433 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 8: So Austin buddy, play those. 434 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 6: Talkbacks on your screen at please ride now to cybotage. 435 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: It is the Tuesday edition, although it doesn't. Does it 436 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: feel like Tuesday to you? 437 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: No, I was a Wednesday or Thursday half telling you 438 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 4: before the show. For whatever reason, I'm I'm a day ahead. Yeah, 439 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: I lied yesterday and told seg that today's game Rad's 440 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 4: game was on the wrong radio station because I thought 441 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 4: yesterday was Tuesday. I'm all screwed up, and I have 442 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 4: no real reason for that. 443 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: I have a couple of quick updates for University of Cincinnati. 444 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: Their spring showcase will be April eighteenth at Nippert Stadium. 445 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: I believe their spring ball gets underway March ninth, and 446 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: their Pro day will be on March twenty fourth. So 447 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: some updated football dates from the University of Cincinnati. Okay, 448 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: now we'll get to talk things. 449 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 7: What's up, guys, mccahona, you're talking about the head over 450 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 7: the park here watch Red Royals. You know the other 451 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 7: day you had May Richardson and Phillips really cost that game. 452 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 7: But you know, at some point you gotta start winning 453 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 7: the spring training games, the preseason game. I'm tired of 454 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 7: losing the This is what carries overs by the Bengals 455 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 7: can't win in the regular season because they keep getting 456 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 7: used to losing in the preseason and it takes them 457 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 7: eight games to get going because they're used to losing. 458 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: You gotta win these games. 459 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 7: I'm tired of losing these preseason in spring training games. 460 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 3: What do you all think? 461 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: I do my best to not worry about the results. 462 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: I could not care less. 463 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 9: Austin Towny Lee roy down here in foulmin Austin. Do 464 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 9: you have any more of those show ideas in the 465 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 9: shower this morning? 466 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: Man? 467 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 9: Houston looked sluggish last It was rough, hard to watch. 468 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 9: Whim being a Spurs blessing some people out there? Man, 469 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 9: did you hear about the replay officials in the booth 470 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 9: being able to throw flags? 471 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: We did a p posal during the combine. We talked 472 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 3: about that. Let's go Cats shower thoughts with Austin Ellmore. 473 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: I did have an idea this morning in the shower. Yeah. 474 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 10: My thought and hope for Combine week is that somehow 475 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 10: Ty Simpson completely blows up the Combine and moves into 476 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 10: the top nine in the draft. Somehow, so one of 477 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 10: those defensive players may fall to the Bengals. 478 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: Wishful thinking. I'm sure you. 479 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 4: Know, Mary Kacabot of Cleveland dot Com, Cleveland Plain Dealer, whatever. 480 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 4: I don't know if there's a difference. Uh she said 481 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 4: the Browns are interested in ts. 482 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that. I did see. Kuiper said that 483 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: without a doubt, Ty Simpson is his number two quarterback. 484 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 4: For what it's worth, there is no person I paid 485 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 4: attention to less and put less stock into their values 486 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 4: Hot Planted Earth than mel Kiper. 487 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 11: Junior, Tony, Austin, George in the Valley, get off a 488 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 11: little early today. 489 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 3: Hopefully catch the Reds game on TV. 490 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 11: If you don't know, you can always go to the 491 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 11: TV app dot t o to stream the game. Can't 492 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 11: find it, I'm not sure if what's on there tonight, 493 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 11: but yeah, pregame is game and I want to give 494 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 11: a big shout out to Brenda. I mean, thanks, Bred, 495 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 11: you know what I do every time you make picks 496 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 11: on the radio. As I just picked the opposite, I 497 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 11: parlayed that I had a really good night last night. 498 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. 499 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 11: Chad always go gets Chad's pigs. 500 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: Wow, you guys have a great day. 501 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 4: Go guess I'm gonna have to see saying Chad doesn't 502 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 4: know ball, I meant to see who Chad likes tonight. 503 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 4: Then okay, interesting, always interesting to hear from George. Yeah, 504 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 4: George is a guy who does not spend a lot 505 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 4: of time now. As I said before, it does not 506 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 4: have much of a relationship reality. 507 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 3: I'm more one than like. 508 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: Tony. This is a start bench cut for you. Why 509 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: just you? Because Austin's part of it. Start bench cut? 510 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 2: Who could power clean more? 511 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 12: Joe Danoman, Jeremy Raw, Jeremy or Austin Elmore start bench cut? 512 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: Like Austin has been invested in in weights recently, you've 513 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: been invested in lifting. You're sending out tests of how 514 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: much you're you're you're benching and different stuff. So I 515 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: will say that Austin would clean the most, and then 516 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: I would say, so you're starting me, I would start you. 517 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: I would bench Daniman and I cut Raw only because 518 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: Raw was dealing with a serious ankle injury last training camp. 519 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: And you just wonder how much that impacts Sure, what 520 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: he's able to do from a clean standpoint. 521 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: Is it stable yet? Right? 522 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: That sort of stuff, you know, is he is he 523 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: doing more flexibility? Is he doing more band work? Whereas 524 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: I think Daniman just walks in, throws the weight, puts 525 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: the pre workout in and gets to work. 526 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: Agreed, Yeah, that's a good point. 527 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 4: I think Joe would also kind of dry scoop some like, 528 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 4: you know, what's that? What's that stuff? Everybody takes C 529 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 4: four like he would. He would even mix it with 530 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 4: I could see Danaman down the hatch. 531 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: He's got the he's got the the the rack in 532 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: between his legs, and he goes and he grabs like 533 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: the powder and he does like the lebron before he 534 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: goes into his power clean. I could see that's how 535 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: he fires himself up. 536 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 5: Austin, I have figured out a workaround for the Alexa problem. 537 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 5: What you got to do is you got to go 538 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 5: into your Alexa app in your phone and cast it 539 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 5: from the Alexa app to the Alexa and then it 540 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 5: won't cut out. 541 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 4: Okay, there you go. He's figured out more than ours. 542 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: That's more than our department's done in a. 543 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 4: Long million, multimillion dollar company. What we were told is 544 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 4: that there's an issue with like Amazon specifically and like 545 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 4: this whole Alexa plus thing that they're doing. 546 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's a it's way above my head. 547 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: It's a lot disregard. 548 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 5: Right after I sent that talk back, my Alexa cut out, 549 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 5: but it lasted for twenty minutes rather than twenty seconds. 550 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm so sorry, guys, So we take back 551 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: everything we just said. 552 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: I wish I could fix it. 553 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 13: Hey, fellas tone, what a weekend last week for you 554 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 13: so far between the Barracats and your boy finally putting 555 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 13: out some name music and OUTI you is right about James. 556 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: I like you, but there's not. 557 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 13: A prospect out there. I think that dude doesn't like 558 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 13: or a trade scenario that he's worked up. But if 559 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 13: they could happen, so I guess if you work up 560 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 13: favorite angle, you can. 561 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 3: Say well, I was right. 562 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 13: But seriously, though, O parents, just Halifiel, take care everybody 563 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 13: and who they are. 564 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: I do think there gets to be a point where 565 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: James just throws the most outland of stuff out there, 566 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: and he's got so much out there that he can 567 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: once a player's drafted, like, yeah's see I called this. 568 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a trait happened part of his strategy. 569 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 4: But I will also say this James mindset is correct. 570 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 4: You should be open to and considering and looking at 571 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 4: all avenues of acquisitions of all types. 572 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: You think to aggressively pursue a championship. 573 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 4: Doesn't matter who it is, or how unattainable they might be, 574 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: or what the cost might be. It should be a 575 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 4: conversation and it should be under consideration. James's attitude is correct. 576 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 4: Now when you get into his arrogance, it's a different story, 577 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 4: but his attitude is correct. 578 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: Hey, fellas, Happy Tuesday. It's DJ pro. 579 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 14: I can't believe it, can't believe that this UC team 580 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 14: has me here again. Humped up pretty game tonight, Joe 581 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 14: Lonardi next four out, Let's go Already bought tickets for 582 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 14: me my daughter Isla for the game on Saturday. Either 583 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 14: a loose sleep tonight because I'm so excited on the 584 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 14: loose leap tonights. I'm so aggravated thirty days to opening 585 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 14: day and Audi tonight. 586 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: Your bull is my Hornets. 587 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: Let's go have a great day, fellas. 588 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hornets by a comfortable margin. I am Lamello is 589 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: probably out recklessly driving like a Georgia bulldog somewhere. 590 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: I h I got a text today from a buddy 591 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: of mine who's got post it note. Post it notes 592 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: now on teams if you're the Bearcats that you are 593 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: rooting for to win or lose based on the upcoming schedule, 594 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: and not alone makes me feel like we're back in 595 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: the conversation. 596 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 6: Oh hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan, and well, 597 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 6: I'm nominating the following individuals to also have the authority 598 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 6: to throw penalty flags. Mister McGoo, one randomly drawn fan 599 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 6: in attendance at each game, and Vinny the fixer from. 600 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: Vegas bet line. 601 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 6: Wow. I considered nominating Tim Couch and David Klingler to 602 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 6: throw flags, but they would have probably just been intercepted. 603 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: How cool to be One fan at each game gets 604 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: a flag to throw at any point. 605 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: Hey, Austin, funny right afternoon. Hope you're having a good one? Hey? 606 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 12: Yeah, has since the shirts put that out yet on 607 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 12: a shirt. Indeed, aggressive pursuit of a championship and you 608 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 12: could insert name here. 609 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. Sounds like it could be a winner. 610 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 3: I have a good one, guys, don't. I don't think 611 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: they have, although I would be talking about it. 612 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 15: Talking about moving this defences back at GAVP. I have 613 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 15: wished for that ever since they opened the stadium. I 614 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 15: remember when Homer Bayley said it was like pitching in 615 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 15: a little league ball park, and it pissed me off 616 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 15: when the first time I heard Angram McCutcheon call it 617 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 15: great American small park. I mean, I understand both teams 618 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 15: have the same advantage, but it's still embarrassing when people 619 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 15: are talk about how small the ballpark is here. 620 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: Man, it's trying to figure out what that's about from 621 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: the background. 622 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 8: What's up, boys? Craig and the Creek agree wholeheartedly. The 623 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 8: Reds need to do more. Could not disagree more about 624 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 8: the salary cap. The way the system is currently constructed, 625 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 8: small market teams can only build through the draft, and 626 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 8: big market teams drive the price on players up so 627 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 8: high that even when we do build through the draft, 628 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 8: as soon as our players become free agents, they swoop 629 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 8: in and out prices. Can we compete for one year, yes, 630 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 8: but year in and year out we're at a significant disadvantage. 631 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 4: I just disagree with that. I think they're there. There 632 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 4: is a lot of teams that want you to feel 633 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 4: that way. Now you are correct that I think some 634 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 4: of these high these bigger market teams that might have 635 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 4: deeper pockets, they are driving prices up to an extent. 636 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 4: I agree with that sentiment for sure, But there are 637 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 4: plenty of owners around the league who could do more 638 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 4: but choose not to correct. That is ultimately the difference, 639 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 4: and that, to me is the biggest issue if it 640 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 4: were up to me, Like this is very nuanced and 641 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 4: I am by no means an expert, the players are 642 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 4: never going to agree to a salary cap. I think 643 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 4: there should be some sort of revenue sharing or a 644 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 4: much more strict luxury tax penalty that puts more money 645 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 4: into the pockets of the small market teams or the 646 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 4: teams who don't go over the luxury tax, which, by 647 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 4: the way, that's already happening, and it's a lot of 648 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 4: money that is disseminated to the rest of the league 649 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 4: because the Dodgers and Mets spend so much. 650 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, and other teams. 651 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 4: That's already that's part of the revenue sharing that goes 652 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 4: back into the owner's pockets of the small market teams. 653 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 4: I think make that more strict, put a salary floor in, 654 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 4: and come up with some sort of revenue sharing that 655 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 4: makes sense. Maybe if maybe it's based on winning. Let's 656 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 4: say you win more games, you get a bigger piece 657 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 4: of the pot. 658 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, No one, like I said, no one's ever going 659 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: to agree to the salary cap. It's already it's already 660 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: wide open. Like I go to it all the time. 661 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: In the NFL model of you know, they have done 662 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: so much to limit padded practices, to limit to a days. 663 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: Do you think anyone's ever going to get together and say, 664 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: you know what, let's agree to go back to how 665 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: it was right, Let's go back to more padded practices. 666 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: Let's go back to two a days. Even though it 667 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: might help, you're not going to do that. No one's 668 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: going to agree to that. No one is going to 669 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: agree to the salary cap. You're you're not going to 670 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: come to an agreement on that. So what can you 671 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: do to build around that and get to a point 672 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: where a point where both these sides can agree. 673 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it has to make sense. 674 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 4: And you know, I don't know how to get to 675 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 4: where everybody is happy. I don't know if that's possible, 676 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 4: but I think there is just I just fundamentally disagree 677 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 4: with that idea that it's entirely based off of of 678 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 4: you know, large market teams. There are owners that can 679 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 4: do a lot more. The Reds are one of them. 680 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 15: I don't know. 681 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 16: Tom said, you don't need any more of that. I 682 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 16: think we need all the good vibes we can when 683 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 16: it comes to the UC basketball program. We'll be rooting 684 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 16: for them along with you, sir. Oh h pizza dude, 685 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 16: Covington long pants guy, long pants guy. 686 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 14: I know we're not going to get a lot today 687 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 14: from Duke Tobin. I get that, but if I hear 688 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 14: the words we like our. 689 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 5: Linebackers, oh boy, I'm going to lose my ever loving mind. 690 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: That's what we should have done with Joe is what 691 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: do you expect to hear from Duke? And what do 692 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: you not want to hear from Duke? Because that would 693 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: certainly qualify. 694 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: Yep Tony Austin Joe d wanted to add two more 695 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 2: teams to the high schools you asked me to keep 696 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 2: an eye out for in March. I would kick myself 697 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 2: if I didn't mention Witton Woods, who only has one 698 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 2: loss all season, hasn't lost to a team from Ohio 699 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: all year, and Mount Notre Dame undefeated MND. Two more 700 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 2: teams to watch from Cincinnati next month. 701 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 4: I just know Joe hung up the phone and was like, 702 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 4: damn it, yep. If I don't say these two schools, 703 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna hear about it. 704 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 3: Yep. So he left to talk back. I like that. 705 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 3: I appreciate that from Joe. 706 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 4: By the way, good luck to the lady Yellowjackets in 707 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 4: action tonight, tournament action up against Bellbrook. It's gonna be 708 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 4: a tall task Bellbrook's tough Sydney struggles to score. It's 709 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 4: gonna be a tall task for him. 710 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 2: My entire life. 711 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 10: I think that might be the first time I've ever 712 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 10: heard someone say my Hornets play tonight. 713 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 3: And it's a good point. It is, man, That is uh, 714 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 3: that's the truth. 715 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 4: Hey, show from Casey here about great American and moving 716 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 4: in the fence. You got to remember it's really not 717 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 4: how big or small it is that matters. 718 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 3: It's it's really how you use it. You know, you 719 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 3: got to build a team to use it the way 720 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 3: it is. Who did okay? Our last one? All right? 721 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 3: Still one second when we get back. Oh you want 722 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 3: to do one? You want to do? 723 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 7: We do? 724 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: We could do too. No, it's one is fine, one 725 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 3: and done. We still got a third hour. 726 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we do have three hours to do. Phone lines 727 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 1: will be open. Five one, three, seven, nine, fifteen thirty. 728 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: Disappointed in uh lack of action on the phone lines. 729 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, wake up, maybe we'd get more. 730 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 4: It's I mean, it's a big day, but maybe that's 731 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 4: on us for not doing enough. 732 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: It's a big day. Why why is it so big today? Well, 733 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 1: if I look at this player schedule that's color coded. Uh, today, 734 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: dB and tight ends are arriving. They're going through registration 735 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: at the combine, while kickers, d linemen and linebackers are 736 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: doing team interviews, studies in general medical exams. That's all 737 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: happening to the combine. Red's got a game at three 738 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: zho five Bearcats play at seven o'clock. There's so much 739 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: going on, no one wants to talk about it. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, 740 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. That's your chance on ESPN. I want to 741 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: see Johnny from Mount Healthy's Big Board. When's that coming out? 742 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: It's a great point, great question, no answers. More to 743 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: come next on ESPN fifteen thirty. 744 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 3: You're one stop for advertising. 745 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back since he three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati 746 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: Sports Station. This is of course Angel Ridge by our 747 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: friend Jeff Henry. I got the new CD yesterday. 748 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 4: I saw that this is a momentous day and show history. 749 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 4: Jeff Henry has released another. 750 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: True part CD Volume one like a River Volume two 751 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: coming around now. It's not going to be on digital 752 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: to like March fifteenth or sixteenth. So I realized yesterday Austin, 753 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: I've got to find a CD player so that I 754 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: can listen to these new songs from Jeff. You don't 755 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: have one in your car. I don't have a CD 756 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 1: player in the car. Everything's like car play. I don't 757 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: have that now, not even like in your trunk. You 758 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: remember those back in the day. I do, like six 759 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: of them bad Boys. I remember that, Yep. That was 760 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: really the peak of that was peak engineering. That was 761 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: peak when it comes to vehicles. Listen to this, and 762 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: this is obviously very early in the process, which means 763 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: a lot of speculation. But I follow along on on 764 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 1: social media with the Field of sixty eight social media account, 765 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: and they were doing a little bit of a coaching 766 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: carousel rundown, and I was surprised by this. With Jeff 767 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: Goodman obviously basketball analyst, he's the co founder of the 768 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: Field of sixty eight, but very I would say connected 769 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to college basketball. Jeff Goodman said this today, 770 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: Austin Providence will likely go for a safe hire, or 771 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 1: at least one to appease the fan base. The easy 772 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: choice is Richard Patino, whose sources say would highly consider 773 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: leaving Xavier after just one season. Could you imagine that? 774 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 3: Now? 775 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: Obviously Patino and his dad and Providence, there would be 776 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: some ties there, But I genuinely got the feeling that 777 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: Patino has enjoyed his time with Xavier. 778 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 3: Well. 779 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 4: To bring back the point you mentioned earlier about how 780 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 4: upfront and honest he is about needing more money. Sure, 781 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 4: maybe if Xavier can't commit to that, yeah, maybe it 782 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 4: does or happen. If you are Richard Patino, maybe you 783 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 4: do float something like that out there to kid Xavier 784 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 4: to do what pony up some more Bucks. Sure, okay, 785 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 4: playing the game here. Speaking of which in the game, 786 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 4: did I see that? Wake Forest? 787 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 3: I saw this? 788 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 4: Steve Forbes, Yeah, is going to remain the head coach 789 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 4: of wake Forest basketball. Seven years zero NCAA tournament appearances 790 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 4: for Steve Forbes. Ad John Curry at wake Forest has 791 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 4: supported Steve Forbes and said he's gonna be the coach 792 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 4: next year. That's crazy. Seven years no tournament appearances for 793 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 4: the Demon Deacons. 794 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: Last night, Bill self moved to forty one to oh 795 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: On Big Monday at Fall Gallen, they give Houston their 796 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: third straight loss. It might be the proverbial Houston. We 797 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: have a problem on the offensive side of the ball 798 00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: right now. They get no production from their inside and 799 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: that is creating a problem and something that defenses are 800 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: able to isolate a little bit. As far as it 801 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: goes with the Houston Cougars. That was an impressive win 802 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: from Kansas last night. And I would assume if you're 803 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: following along, a good win for UC since they just 804 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: came off of a game in which they beat Kansas 805 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: on the road, So you want Kansas to continue and 806 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: pick up their winning ways. We are thirty days away 807 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: from opening day at Great American Ballpark mentioned this yesterday, Austin, 808 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: Is this as easy of a list to get through today? 809 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: Do we have to recite the other names? Or do 810 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: you go right to Ken Griffey Jr. Who donned the 811 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: number thirty from two thousand to two thousand and five 812 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 1: for the Cincinnati Reds. 813 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 4: It would be hard not to think of some of 814 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 4: the other I don't know that I would say greats. 815 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 4: I mean his own father, some of the other really 816 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 4: really good players in Red's history to wear that number, 817 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 4: including as you mentioned, Ken Griffy Senior, who I think 818 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 4: is one of the most underrated players in the history 819 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 4: of baseball. Ken Griffy could flat out play, and Junior 820 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,720 Speaker 4: obviously up there as well. Joey j was a legend 821 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 4: for the Reds back in the day, back in the 822 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 4: nineteen sixties. Who could forget Norris Hopper as I mentioned yesterday, 823 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 4: Diana Navarro, who was a terrible player. Paul Darringer. Paul 824 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 4: Dearringer was on the nineteen forty team that won the 825 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 4: World Series. Clint Hurdle has permanently red and skin due 826 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 4: to alcohol poisoning. He's the former skipper of the Pittsburgh Pirates, 827 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 4: one of my least favorite players of all time. How 828 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 4: could you forget Hirsh least favorite people of all time? 829 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 4: Hrsh Freeman, Oh gosh? In his time? What about Dallas 830 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 4: Williams in nineteen eighty three, Roberto Big Dally? 831 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 3: I used to call him Berto Kelly. 832 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: What about Big Quinton McCracken, Not Big Earn McCracken. No, 833 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: Quinton McCracken. Quinton McCracken. I remember him a little bit. 834 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 4: Quinton McCracken had a He was around Major League baseball 835 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 4: quite a bit. 836 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: Now, Will Benson keeps hitting the ball like he's doing 837 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: at spring training so far he might give Junior a 838 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: run for his money this year? 839 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 4: Are you forgetting the first ever read to wear the 840 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:30,280 Speaker 4: number thirty back in nineteen thirty from Clarksville, Ohio? Oh Biff, 841 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 4: Why song? 842 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 3: Oh Biff? Come on now? 843 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 4: How about oh Man? How about Biff? He started one 844 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 4: game for the Reds in nineteen thirty. He has a 845 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 4: nineteen point twenty nine er. 846 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 3: Was that higher or lower than what Malley finished up with? 847 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 4: Old Biff pitched in two and a third innings in 848 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 4: nineteen thirty with a nineteen point three died era Tyler Valley. 849 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: Of course, has anyone else Miss Organization pitches than Tyler 850 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: Maley Tyler. 851 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 4: Valley un like unfortunately for our narrative here, that dude 852 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,479 Speaker 4: has awesome last year. 853 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 3: He was really good last year. Yep. Doesn't quite fit 854 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 3: into our native There was nobody. I mean, gosh, it 855 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 3: was hard to watch a game Malley. 856 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't because it almost became eventially see to see 857 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: how many pitches he would throw. 858 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, how's he gonna get up at two in the 859 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 4: count here and get it full? 860 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 861 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: I like it was. It was something you had to 862 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: tune into every single time he pitched. 863 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 3: Well, more like the more so like the first. 864 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: And second anymore you're like, oh, here we go thirty 865 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: five already Yep, in the first. Good for him though, 866 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 1: because it's still working. He's still he's still trump mowing 867 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: them down. Well, what didn't work? He had to get 868 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: Tommy John Serge. Wow, it'll be best shocker. Yes, would 869 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: have thought that that much stress on the elbow would 870 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: cause that. 871 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 4: I just remember when I have to produce the games 872 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 4: that he pitched. Oh and you want to talk? You 873 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 4: knew you were in for a long one. As John 874 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 4: Rothstein likes to call losing a bye game the epitome 875 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 4: of brutality. 876 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, producing a Tyler Balley game. We have one 877 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 3: hour remaining. 878 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 4: By the way, I got to produce the Red spring 879 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 4: training game tomorrow. 880 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh. 881 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 4: I just want to apologize, not today, not today, Okay, 882 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 4: I just want to apologize tomorrow to the affiliates. 883 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna screw it up. 884 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: We'll take a break. We got a lot on the 885 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: Bengals an hour number three. We've got some college hoops 886 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: and your phone calls five, one, three, seven, fifteen thirty. 887 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: Get the calls in. We'll try to open up the 888 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 1: hour with some of those. Next on ESPN fifteen thirty, 889 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports Station,