1 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: John's not from one Berry. Hey, I don't know why 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: people are so worried about ICE saving. 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: If you're not illegal, you shouldn't have a problem. 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 3: Good morning, John. It looks like we have a new 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: civil rights icon. There was MLK, there was Rosa Parks. 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 3: Now I got this woman that had to talk to 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: the cops for a couple of minutes. The bravery is 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 3: just stunning. 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 4: It is thank you for the talkback. 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 5: Stunning is the appropriate word here on Twin Cities News 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 5: Talk as we chronicle the tale of a Minneapolis woman, 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 5: Sue Tincher said she had to spend four hours as 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 5: shackled in a jail cell Tuesday after being detained by 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 5: ICE agents. Kim Katie USA on x had posted further 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 5: video of Sue tincher Minnesota residence will Or Hay neighborhood 16 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 5: of North Minneapolis, awakened to buy an alert from the 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 5: Signal Rapid Response Group that three of her neighbors were 18 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 5: being detained. I have audio of Sue here on Twin 19 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 5: Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty one oh three five 20 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 5: FM from the sixty five to one Carpet plus Next 21 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 5: Day Install Studios. I will share with you. She tells 22 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 5: the story, the harrowing story of what had actually taken place. 23 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 6: What you're doing is illegal? 24 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 4: Why are you arresting her? 25 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 7: It was about six thirty and I got the alert 26 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 7: on the North Minneapolis Rapid Response Group that there was 27 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 7: an abduction happening. So I went right over there and 28 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 7: I approached one of the officers I saw there and 29 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 7: asked if she was ICE, and she told me to 30 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 7: get back, and I didn't get back, and pretty soon 31 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 7: they were throwing on the ground. 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: And again it's a nice little YadA YadA moment, just 33 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: you know, I told me to get back. I didn't 34 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 4: get back, and then they attacked. 35 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 7: Me, handcuffing me and putting me in there unmarked truck. 36 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 7: It was pretty chaotic. I had just arrived there, so 37 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 7: I didn't get to evaluate it fully. But there were 38 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 7: other watchers who were asking me what my name was 39 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 7: and everything, so I identified myself to them, and then I 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 7: started yelling help because I was being kidnapped. 41 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: I felt like, boy, this is unbelievable because she's being kidnapped. 42 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 4: You watched the video. 43 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 5: There's multiple ICE agents, law enforcement, there's bystanders watching. 44 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: They're filming this whole thing. Taking place. 45 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 5: If she's legitimately being kidnapped, why aren't people doing more? 46 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 5: Like if I have a friend and he's like legitimately 47 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 5: being kidnapped, or my wife, for my children, I'm going 48 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:05,559 Speaker 5: to risk harm, physical harm to protect them if it's unjustified, unjustified, 49 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 5: if like you're legitimately being kidnapped. No, it's performative, it's theater. 50 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 6: This is the. 51 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 5: Greatest moment in this woman's life in decades. 52 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 7: Well, that this is happening in our country right now, 53 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 7: But really most of my concern was for the people 54 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 7: inside that house and their families and what is. 55 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 4: Happening in the country right now. 56 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 6: What happened to you? 57 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 4: You got in a way of law enforcement doing their job. 58 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 5: That's on you. I hope that happens more in this country. 59 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 5: I hope that ICE officials continue their efforts, more people 60 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 5: join ICE so that more individuals who are here illegally, 61 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 5: they didn't respect the sovereignty of this great nation are 62 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 5: deported and sent back home. 63 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 7: And they have to face a lot more than I 64 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 7: did just sitting in a cell for a few hours 65 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 7: with leg shackles on. But I think the focus really 66 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 7: belongs with them. I did see seven other detainees come 67 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 7: in and I was looking at them through the window 68 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 7: of my cell. 69 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 4: So I feel very badly for them. Oh, it's just 70 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: so sad. 71 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 8: She was never arrested. She was detained and then released. 72 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 8: But of course we had to watch her video interview 73 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 8: where she said she had been kidnapped and her husband 74 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 8: said she was kidnapped. 75 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 4: Don't get to the husband in a moment. 76 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 8: These people are completely insane born. 77 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 9: And everybody Chad from Delano here. So when I was 78 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 9: just listening to that story there, well, I know exactly 79 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 9: what happened. She refused and stood her ground and got 80 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 9: everything that she deserved. Be an ice observer, if that's 81 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 9: what you're calling yourself, you still have to follow directions 82 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 9: and move when they tell you to move, and jump 83 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 9: when they tell you to jump, and even ask them 84 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 9: how high. 85 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 7: Have a great I have marks on my neck and 86 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 7: on my wrists from where they were, you know, forcibly 87 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 7: holding on to me, and they told me if I 88 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 7: didn't watch myself, they were going to give me the OC, 89 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 7: which is very unpleasant. What drew me out was hoping 90 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 7: that I could help protect my neighbors and. 91 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 4: What are you going to do like this. 92 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 6: What are you going to do? 93 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 7: Kidnapping that's happening to you know, our fellow Minneapolitans. 94 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 10: So does any of this experience like impede you from 95 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 10: doing this in the future or is it the opposite? 96 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 7: No, it empowers me. I definitely want to do it more. 97 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 6: What is it you're going to do? You're not bad woman. 98 00:05:54,279 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: What is it you think you're going to accomplish. 99 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 5: Other than being an embarrassment to your husband? This was 100 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 5: posted on north News. Northsider Susan tensher taken away by 101 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 5: what her husband assumes were ice agents. No idea where 102 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 5: she is, said Jim Susan's husband. This is just ridiculous. 103 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 5: According to Jim, Susan had recently joined the Signal Group 104 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 5: to observe ice in public. When she responded to an 105 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 5: alert to an ice presence at a house at twenty 106 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 5: first in Oliver, she was allegedly apprehended quickly by what 107 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 5: appeared to be ice agents and playing clothes when she 108 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 5: walked up to the intersection. Yeah, that's all that was. 109 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 5: She was just walking up to the intersection and ice 110 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 5: just came over, grabbed her, threw a bag over ahead 111 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 5: and tossed her in the car. That's what they want 112 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 5: you to believe. It's the fantasy world these individuals living. 113 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 5: I'm sorry I stole the thunder on this talkback. My apologies. 114 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 5: You know there's a part of me that really wants 115 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 5: to live in this crazy fantasy world. 116 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. 117 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 10: What kind of drugs are you people on? 118 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: It's liberalism, that's the drug. 119 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 11: Another point this morning, John, Do these people have nothing 120 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 11: better to do? Do they not have jobs? Do they 121 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 11: really just sit around and wait for their rapid response 122 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 11: a group to go downstairs and interfere with law enforcement? 123 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 11: Who do these people think they are? This is infuriating, 124 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 11: yet comical, almost speechless. This is something else, man. 125 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 5: Getting back to the story, help me. Susan's screamed as 126 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 5: you heard as she was arrested by the uniformed agents 127 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 5: at six twenty four am. 128 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 6: Damp what I. 129 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: What you're doing? 130 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 5: So this is the guy the bystanding the dude standing 131 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 5: there holding his phone so bravely saying. 132 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: Hey, what you're doing is illegal? Why don't you step 133 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: in and help her? 134 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 6: Dude? 135 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 5: If what law enforcement is doing is illegal, you obviously 136 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 5: don't care enough about your neighbor. They care enough to 137 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 5: brave the freezing temperatures outside to watch ICE conduct their 138 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 5: operations in some quasi alert response to tactic wherein they 139 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 5: are supposed to be accomplishing something because they care so 140 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: much about their neighbors who are being arrested via ICE. 141 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 5: And what does that Yahoo do in the middle of 142 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 5: one of his fellow protesters and one of his fellow 143 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 5: alert responders is getting arrested, Rather than step in and 144 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 5: try to help her because they're all about helping people, 145 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 5: he stands there filming with his phone, going, you know, 146 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 5: what you're doing is illegal. 147 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 6: What you're doing is illegal. 148 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: I can't mock these people enough morning John. She sounds 149 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 4: just like Margie, the police officer from the movie Fargo. 150 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 5: Ice agents had a professional camera creo with them. According 151 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 5: to the reporting on North News, Jim Sue's husband has 152 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 5: reached out to Attorney General Keith Ellison, among other elected officials. 153 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 6: It's all so ridiculous, Keith. 154 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 5: My wife she just you know, she responded because she 155 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 5: joined up with this activist group and she got in 156 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 5: the way of law enforcement from doing their jobs, and 157 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 5: she was taken into custody for obstructing law enforcement. Is 158 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 5: there something you can do you're all about corruption, You're 159 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: all about fraud. 160 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 4: There was already a vigil for Susan taking place tonight. 161 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 4: She's free. 162 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 6: Why are you holding a vigil? Sorry, guys, I just can't. 163 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: Hey, John, that's the one thing I don't get. Why 164 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: doesn't ICE have like decoy operations where you know, they 165 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: send a few agents, make a big scene and not 166 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: actually do anything. Put it on the social media, the Facebook, 167 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: even as a fake person to say, hey, there's an 168 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: operation going down here. 169 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 4: I don't want ICE doing that. ICE doesn't need to 170 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 4: do that. 171 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 5: We don't need to waste our law enforcement officers time. 172 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 5: I understand, right, I understand what it is that you 173 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 5: that you're that you're getting at right in order to 174 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 5: try to avoid all of this. But I don't want 175 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 5: our ICE agents having to waste their time having to 176 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 5: conduct the decoy operations. No ICE is doing the job 177 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 5: that they need to do. The only reason why there 178 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 5: is any issue with what is taking place right now 179 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 5: here in the Twin Cities relating to ICE operations is 180 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 5: because of idiots like I've been mocking right now on 181 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 5: the show. The Saint Louis Park mayor, Minneapolis man Baby 182 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 5: mayor mom Jeans, Jacob Fry, Walls, Ellison, all of them, 183 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 5: the Minneapolis City Council, the ones that are perpetuating all 184 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 5: of these fake, false narratives as to what's taking place. 185 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 5: People get arrested every single day. Law enforcement pulls people 186 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 5: over every single day and there's never a problem. It's 187 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 5: never an issue. Warrants are issued and executed every single day, 188 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 5: and nobody ever hears about it because it's not controversial. 189 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 4: The people are. 190 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 5: Taken into custody because they broke the law and they're 191 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 5: held accountable. And yet because Democrats right now have so 192 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 5: little to run on, they care so little about the issues, 193 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 5: they have gone all in on this anti Trump narrative 194 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 5: that this is where we are right now, performative activist 195 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 5: theater perpetuating these ridiculous notions that is putting the public. 196 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 4: In harm's way. The public is. 197 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 5: Safer if you just let ice go and do their 198 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 5: job and take the bad guys out of the homes 199 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 5: that they were living in and send them back from 200 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 5: where they came from. No incident, bad guy caught put 201 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 5: in car, gone done easy. Nobody's affected, Nobody in the 202 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 5: communities are affected. Everybody's safe as long as you're here legally. 203 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 5: It's the activist. They're the ones that are causing all 204 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 5: the problems right now, and they deserve everybody's mocking. 205 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 4: Every day of the year. 206 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 12: We are here with the latest forecast of at top 207 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 12: and bottom of every hour. 208 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 4: Every hour three Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty. 209 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 6: And one oh three point five. 210 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:47,479 Speaker 5: Continuing the saga of Siue Tinsure for you longtime listeners 211 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 5: of me, I can't help but think about the continuing 212 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 5: saga of Macho b Again. That's for you long time 213 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 5: listeners to my show, The continuing adventures of Sue Tincher, 214 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 5: the brave ICE activist who went out in the bitter 215 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 5: cold to try to protect her neighbors from being removed 216 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 5: for their criminal activity and being here illegally, only to 217 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 5: get apprehended herself HEMAI. 218 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 13: In the last few hours, community members on Minneapolis's North 219 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 13: Side gathering rallying around an ICE observer who was detained 220 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 13: during a raid. Susan Tenher said she arrived at the 221 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 13: raid at Oliver in twenty first Avenues around six this 222 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 13: morning and was asked by an agent who she was, 223 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 13: and the agent told her to back up. She says, 224 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 13: she refused. 225 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 7: And I stood my ground. I just stood there on 226 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 7: the sidewalk and other officers came up and I was 227 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 7: thrown to the ground. 228 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 4: Just YadA, YadA, YadA, toss to the ground. 229 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 6: What she doing is illegal? 230 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: Ah. 231 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 4: The audio their courtesy of Caro Levin. 232 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 14: Good Morning, John. So the woman who was apprehended in 233 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 14: North Minneapolis because she got in the way of ice 234 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 14: agents who are trying to do their jobs. 235 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 2: So imagine. 236 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 14: And one callback just said something about do they not 237 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 14: have jobs? Well, maybe they're collecting on their Minnesota paid 238 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 14: family and medical leave to protect their neighbor, because you 239 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 14: can do it with that leave. Crazy, it's all nuts. 240 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: Oh oh, I'd even thought about that. 241 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, if they're your neighbor and you want to go 242 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 5: and help your neighbor, can you get paid family medical 243 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 5: leave to go and protest? 244 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: This is going to be such an absolute disaster. 245 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 9: When I can't find my wife, when I haven't heard 246 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 9: from her in. 247 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 6: A while, I look on Google Map and it fills 248 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 6: me where she is because we fear out locations that 249 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 6: we've got to. Well, I don't know what's wrong with 250 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 6: the couple. 251 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. 252 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 5: This whole thing with the husbands to post online. 253 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 4: I don't know where she went. Everybody she got a 254 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: text of where to go? 255 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: Hey, John, Jeff and Lynstrom. You know, talk about this 256 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: liberalism and the crazy that it is. It has become 257 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: and is a religion. These people a lot of feeling 258 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: persecuted in these times. 259 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 13: This woman is sad and lonely and dying for attention 260 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 13: and virtue signaling seems to be the way to do it, 261 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 13: at least temporarily for her. 262 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 6: Performative activist theater Pat. 263 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: Oh, I like that. That's good. All right, let's go here. 264 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: This is FROMALFA News. 265 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 5: I'm almost hesitant to even bring it up right now, 266 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 5: looking at the clock, because this is going to require 267 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 5: more conversation. But I'm here, so I'll give you just 268 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 5: a bit of the details and we'll get into this 269 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 5: after my interview with Chris maddele here in a few 270 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 5: minutes on the show. So we continue the broadcast from 271 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 5: the sixty five to one carpet plus Next Day install studios. 272 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 5: So you remember the Minnesota Rehabilitation and Reinvestment Act that 273 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 5: was passed party line vote, signed by Governor Tim Walls 274 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 5: during the time of the Minnesota DFL trifecta in twenty 275 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 5: twenty three. This gave the Department of Corrections authority to 276 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 5: decide if we're when inmates could be eligible for release 277 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 5: from prison. An inmate who was among the first to 278 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 5: be released under the Minnesota Rehabilitation and Reinvestment Act is 279 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 5: now a. 280 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: One in fugitive. Oh yeah, already right out of the gate. 281 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 5: First person released under this controversial program that Republicans opposed, 282 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 5: and she's already a one fugitive. I'll give you details 283 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 5: on this coming up a little later on in the 284 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 5: in the show, I want to make sure that we 285 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 5: keep on time. Attorney Chris Maddele represented State Trooper Ryan Londrigan, 286 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 5: is a murder case recently announced his Minnesota gubernatorial run, 287 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 5: growing the ever expanding list of GOP candidates for governor. 288 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 5: And we're going to talk with Chris maddle next here 289 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 5: on Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty and one 290 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 5: oh three five FM. 291 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 12: Next Day Installs studios. This is Twin Cities News Talk. 292 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 12: Hey Yeah, eleven thirty FM one to three point five 293 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 12: and on the free iHeartRadio app. 294 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 5: Earlier in the week, the Star Tribune ran a story 295 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 5: talking about the gubernatorial candidates on the GOP side who 296 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 5: want to go up against Governor Tim Walls, assuming he's 297 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 5: still the nominee heading into next year. As I predicted, 298 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 5: he was either going to avoid the media or leave town. 299 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: And he's left town. He's in Seattle. 300 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 5: I have audio of him telling his sob stories and 301 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 5: trying to play the victim. 302 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: We'll get to that a little bit later on in 303 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 4: the hour. 304 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 5: At this town hall with these candidates for a governor, 305 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 5: Chris Mattel, whom recently announced that he was going to 306 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 5: be throwing his hat into the ring for governor, he 307 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 5: was asked how to make life more affordable for Minnesotans. 308 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 5: This is what he had to say at that town hall. 309 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 15: First question, the rise in cost of living was one 310 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 15: of the top issues identified in the recent election by voters. 311 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 4: Name some things you can do as governor to make. 312 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 15: The cost of living more affordable for the average Minnesota. 313 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 16: The first thing that I proposed was increasing the standard 314 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 16: deduction to seventy five thousand dollars. I think that the 315 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 16: first seventy five thousand hours should be exempt from Minnesota 316 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 16: income tax. 317 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 4: Second thing is property tax. 318 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 16: We have to have property taxes for it is getting 319 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 16: at ridiculous that you have to rebuy your home every 320 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 16: year that you're going forward right now. I also believe 321 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 16: that at age sixty five, your property taxes should just 322 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 16: be frozen. You should not be thinking into retirement about 323 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 16: whether or not you're going to be able to actually 324 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 16: afford your own right now. The number one best way 325 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 16: to put money into people's pockets right now is what 326 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 16: taxer for. I found out in college that the easiest 327 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 16: way for me not to spend money was not to 328 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 16: have any money, and you're doing. We need to do 329 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 16: the exact same thing with government right now. We need 330 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 16: to start cutting the taxes, squeezing the budget so that 331 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 16: we actually find the things that we actually need to prioritize, 332 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 16: because right now, what's all that's happening since twenty eighteen 333 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 16: is we're throwing money out the window with respective fraud 334 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 16: over and over and over again. Unless we stop doing that, 335 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 16: it's going to continue, and we've done nothing about it 336 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 16: in years. 337 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 5: See Chris Maddel was so precise in his answer during 338 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 5: that forum, I figured I would share that audio with 339 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 5: him before I have a chance to speak with him 340 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 5: on the show to take care of that portion in 341 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 5: our line of questioning today and Chris maddele joins us 342 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 5: on the show this morning. Attorney, thank you so much 343 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 5: for coming on and on such a short notice too, Chris, 344 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. 345 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 10: Oh absolutely, thank you. John. 346 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 4: We were talking here. 347 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 5: We were talking quite a bit about wasteful spending in 348 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 5: the first hour of the show. I encourage everybody to 349 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 5: go take a listen to the podcast to check that out. 350 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 4: Let's start off here. 351 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 5: I do want to get through some of the more 352 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 5: controversial aspects of your announcing in your background before we 353 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 5: do that, though, Let's just start off with the basic one. 354 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 4: Chris. 355 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 5: We haven't had a chance to speak since you've made 356 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 5: the announcement to run for governor. 357 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 4: What ultimately led you to make this decision. 358 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 5: You've been successful as an attorney here, You've been doing 359 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 5: a lot of good here in Minnesota as an attorney. 360 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 5: I'm wondering what was it that put you in a 361 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 5: position where you said, this is something I need to 362 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 5: do to join all these other individuals to run for governor. 363 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 10: It was very similar to the reason that I started 364 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 10: throwing my hat and the rain to help police officers. 365 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 10: I just saw the existing what was happening out there, 366 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 10: and I knew that if I didn't try to help 367 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 10: that I was going to hold it against myself and 368 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 10: what kind of example of my leaving. 369 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 4: For my daughters. 370 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 10: So I just I really truly enjoy helping people, and 371 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 10: that's really, honestly the main reason I want to do this. 372 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 10: It certainly is not for the money. 373 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 5: John, at the forum, and I talked about this yesterday 374 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 5: on the show, and I'd like to get the full 375 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 5: context of what was said. There was just one line 376 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 5: that was shared in the Star Tribune story highlighting that forum, 377 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 5: but of course a lot of talk about the fraud. 378 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 5: We've been covering it its national news continues to do that. 379 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 5: And in the quote from the Star Tribune from that forum, 380 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 5: it seemed as if you were critical of both Democrats 381 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 5: and Republicans over the lack of doing anything about fraud 382 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 5: here in Minnesota. And again, I wanted to hear directly 383 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 5: from you your your thoughts on that. That prompted to 384 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 5: start tributing to pull that quote from that forum earlier 385 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 5: this week. 386 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 10: Sure appreciate that, and and one of the things about 387 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 10: my candidcy John, and I think you kind of know 388 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 10: this already from you've been on your show, is like 389 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 10: I do, try to call them like I see them. 390 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 10: I'm subtleties not among my gifts. So and I apologize 391 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 10: if I'm being too direct on this, but I really 392 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 10: feel that the Democrats and the Republicans, the Republicans haven't 393 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 10: done enough to investigate fraud and what I'm really talking about. 394 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 10: There are a number of tools that have not been used. 395 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 10: Chief among those tools is the Minnesota Government Data Practices Act. 396 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 10: That's Chapter thirteen of Minnesota Statutes. This is the statute 397 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 10: that the media uses. Liz Collin has used this repeatedly 398 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 10: in order to send things into various aspects departments of 399 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 10: the government in order to get documents out. That is done. 400 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 10: It can be done by any citizen. It's not just legislators, 401 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 10: but legislators. When you do that, what normally happens, especially 402 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 10: at the Walls administration, they stonewall you. They just say 403 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 10: we're not you know, they drag their feet, They're not 404 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 10: going to do anything. There is a specific statute in there, 405 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 10: it's thirteen point eight that permits you to sue the 406 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 10: government on an action for damages and junction. You can 407 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 10: get attorney's fees you can get costs, you can get 408 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 10: silful penalties. Just in twenty twenty five, there was a 409 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 10: gentleman in Saint Paul that sued the Saint Paul City 410 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 10: government got thirty thousand dollars from fourteen separate violations of 411 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 10: the Data Practices Act. He was just trying to get 412 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 10: document pros to byte trail planning process on Summit Avenue. 413 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 10: The Republicans have not used that one bit in order 414 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 10: to put Walls's feet to the fire with respect to fraud. 415 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 10: They just keep throwing in these requests and then they 416 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 10: just let one Wall stonewall them. And then they write 417 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 10: letters people to the federal government or or whomever and 418 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 10: say please investigate us. I think it's their obligation to 419 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 10: do that themselves. That's number one. Number two, the committees 420 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 10: have subpoena power. Now that subpoena power requires the two 421 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 10: thirds majority, so the Democrats is evenly divided, it's likely 422 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 10: to be voted down. My idea, though, why not draft 423 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 10: a subpoena that requests one category of a fraud related 424 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 10: issue by one department, put that in front of the 425 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 10: committee every day and let the Democrats vote that down 426 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 10: every day. Have them vote that down. Let them own 427 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 10: when they go back to their districts that they do 428 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 10: not want to investigate this fraud that has not been 429 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 10: done either. All we're doing is writing letters. We're not 430 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 10: doing anything other than watching the media do this. I 431 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 10: mean Care eleven lives Colin Fox nine, I mean Care eleven, 432 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 10: Liz has done a phenomenal job with respect autism, froud 433 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 10: since twenty twenty three, housing stabilization frauds done by the 434 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 10: start for doing Care eleven just did this addiction recovered. 435 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 10: All of these things have come about as a result 436 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 10: of data practices actly Wes. And that's that's the way 437 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 10: that I really feel that Republicans have really done Jack Squatt, 438 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 10: that's looking into. 439 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 5: Fraud talking with Attorney at Chris Maddel of course running 440 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 5: as a campaign for governor as well. 441 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 4: Sorry I tripped at my words. There have you two 442 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 4: things on this, Chris. 443 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 5: One, why do you think if Republicans haven't done this? 444 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: One? 445 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 5: Why do you think that members of the legislature haven't 446 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: done this on the Republican side? And two have you 447 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 5: spoken to any of them about this to find out 448 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 5: from their perspective why they haven't done this? 449 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 10: Dinner with a couple of staffers. First of all, I 450 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 10: was unaware that nobody had even attempted to do this 451 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 10: well the last couple of months, and that was one 452 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 10: of the reasons that really propelled me to do this. 453 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 10: Doing it is an absolute mystery to me, John, I 454 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 10: have no idea. It's the same mystery that you talked about. Well, 455 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 10: you talked about Hillaris and Seattle. I just had a 456 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 10: friend of mine that flew to San Francisco yesterday. He 457 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 10: was on the flight going to San Francisco yesterday, so 458 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 10: you know, it's the same mystery as to why he's 459 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 10: not doing anything with respect to fraud. I don't know, 460 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 10: you'll have to ask them. 461 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's but it's a tool. 462 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 10: Just real quick. I've actually done this tool federally. I 463 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 10: had clients that were investigating the opioid crisis, and I 464 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 10: had the US Department of Justice refused to give us 465 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 10: our Coast data that ARCOS is the computerized service that 466 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 10: talks about prescription drugs and whether or not people are 467 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 10: violating that. When the Justice Department didn't give me that data, 468 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 10: I personally to the US of Justice and I won. 469 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 10: There's a published decision a Circuit Court of Appeals called 470 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 10: mattele versus US Department of Justice, where they had to 471 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 10: give me a whole bunch of arcost data. So I've 472 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 10: done this at the federal level, where frankly it's a 473 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 10: heck of a lot harder than it is at the 474 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 10: state level. But this is a way that you actually 475 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 10: put people's feet to the fire. You can also get 476 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 10: attorney's fees, you can get wolf of violations. I mean, 477 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 10: look at the Saint Paul resident regarding a bike trail, 478 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 10: and here we're talking about billions of fraud. Regardless of 479 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 10: what the Star Tribune says, it's billions of fraud. Let's 480 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 10: get in there and start looking at this. Let's get 481 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 10: aggressive with respect to investigating this stuff because our money 482 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 10: is just being stolen every day. 483 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 5: Well, it's certainly something that gonna I'm going to address. 484 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 5: I have Elliot Ingen representative. He actually is going to 485 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 5: be joining us tomorrow and studio on the show, and 486 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 5: I'll ask him because I'm curious as well as to 487 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 5: why this hasn't been used if it can be as 488 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 5: effective as what you are saying. Again, talking with coubernatorial 489 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 5: candidate Attorney Chris Maddele, let's get to the other issue. 490 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 5: I know you've addressed this a lot. It's first time 491 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 5: we've had you on this show. I know you've talked 492 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 5: with other people about it, but you have made donations 493 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 5: in the past, multiple donations to Secretary of State Steve Simon, 494 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 5: also a couple thousand dollars donations to Governor Tim Walls 495 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 5: post COVID. For those that are concerned about those donations 496 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 5: to DFL campaigns, your rationale as to why those donations 497 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 5: were made in light of the fact that you're now 498 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 5: running for governor as. 499 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 4: A Republican. 500 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 10: And honestly, this is an entirely fair question. 501 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: Number one. 502 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 10: I mean so and I one hundred percent understand this, 503 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 10: and it's a fair question to ask, so I appreciate that. 504 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 10: Number one. Second, President Trump, I actually had a friend 505 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 10: of mine texted me a couple of things last time 506 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 10: that this and I actually verified it. He gave six 507 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 10: hundred and ninety five thousand dollars to Democrats when he 508 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 10: was in New York in New Jersey because he needed 509 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 10: to do that as a real estate developer. And I've 510 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 10: actually given more to President Trump than all of the 511 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 10: other Republican candidates combined my friend just found from FEC data. 512 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 10: So with respect to the Democratic contributions, it's very similar 513 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 10: to the same reasons that President Trump did it, except 514 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 10: in my case, my job is very bipartisan. I have 515 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 10: to go out there and represent clients. You do that, 516 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 10: and I have to get results. I'm not going to 517 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 10: you know, nobody's going to hire me if I'm not 518 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 10: any results. You know, I can't just you know, sit 519 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 10: there and use to people. I actually have to get it. 520 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 10: And you get great results from hard work. You get 521 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 10: it from tenacity, perseverance, and you get it from relationships. 522 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 10: And these relationships, frankly, I believe I've generated very concrete 523 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 10: examples of things like that and Ryan Laandrigan the trooper 524 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 10: that I represented. I wholeheartedly believe, in my heart of 525 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 10: hearts that Kim Walls would not have threatened to take 526 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 10: that case away from Mary Moriarty had I not have 527 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 10: those relationships. And so that's why I'm really not apologetic 528 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 10: with respect to these. I really feel the same. I've 529 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 10: never had clients really kind of come to me and say, hey, listen, 530 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 10: I hate your contributions here. I'm not going to hire you. 531 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 10: I mean, you know, Liz Colin, Elfin News, Jim Schultz, 532 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 10: Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association. All these people want 533 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 10: to use my relationships, and I've been successful with all 534 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 10: these people. So one of the things John, you know, 535 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 10: I would honestly encourage you. I think Liz is I'm 536 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 10: show every Wednesday at eight thirty or nine, or she's on, 537 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 10: she's on this morning. I did hear an ad for 538 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 10: Worthington before I just came on the phone, and I 539 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 10: thought that was a little curious. I was wondering if 540 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 10: that's Liz's doing to put that ad on there. So 541 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 10: she's from Worthington. But you know, but honestly, ask Liz. 542 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 10: Ask Liz if I'm some closet Democrat that some person 543 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 10: at the minute that I become governor, I'm going to 544 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 10: put in a bunch of DEI policies and let boys 545 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 10: playing girls sports, asked her. Asked Bob Croll, ask her husband. 546 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 10: You know Bob was on the stage, you know, with 547 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 10: President Trump with the Cops for Trump T shirt. He 548 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 10: showed up at my speech, you know when when I 549 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 10: announced with a Cops for Governor battle t shirt. 550 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 5: Well to two questions on that again, talking with attorney 551 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 5: Attorney Chris Maddel gubernatorial candidate again run running running as 552 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 5: a Republican. So two things on that that that I'm 553 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 5: curious about as a voter. Okay, because I'm certainly not 554 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 5: making the claims of what you're saying saying here. You know, 555 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 5: I've got a lot of respect for what you do. 556 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 5: I appreciate what you've been able to do for a 557 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 5: lot of conservative conservative efforts. 558 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 10: With you, John, so so far away, I love your question. 559 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 5: So so I guess one, were you in support at 560 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 5: the time when you made the campaign contributions to Governor 561 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 5: Tim Walls? Were you in support of the efforts that 562 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 5: he was the job that he was doing as governor 563 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 5: at that point in time? 564 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 4: But more specifically, why is it? 565 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 5: Why did it necessitate making a large campaign contribution to 566 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 5: the governor in order to yield a positive relationship regarding 567 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 5: your defense of the of the trooper? Could you have 568 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 5: not have built that relationship without making a campaign donation? 569 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 10: Now, I'm going to quote the great modern day philosopher 570 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 10: Ice Tea. Don't hate the player. Hate the game. I 571 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 10: don't like the game either, John, I've never liked it. 572 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 10: And but but that is My job as an attorney 573 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 10: is to play within the confines of that game, and 574 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 10: if you want to speak to politicians, you go to 575 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 10: where politicians are, and that is most frequently at different 576 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 10: parties with respective contributions. This is the chief reason that 577 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 10: I'm not accepting money from acts or unions or registered lobbyists. 578 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 10: I'm sick of it. I am tired of it. So, 579 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 10: you know, do I support How in God's earth can 580 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 10: you look at this fraud and see what he has 581 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 10: done with respect to this fraud and support this man. 582 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 10: I don't, And frankly, I am finding that is true 583 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 10: with a lot of my Democratic friends. A lot of 584 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 10: my Democratic friends know that. They keep saying, listen, You're 585 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 10: probably going to be the first Republican I'm ever going 586 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 10: to vote for because I'm pragmatic, because I know how 587 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 10: to attack this stuff, and I just want to get 588 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 10: it behind this, and I actually want to help people. 589 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 10: I'm not really interested in seeing my name on a marquee. 590 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 10: I'm not really interested in see my name in the paper. 591 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 10: I've achieved all that in my life. I'm here, really, 592 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 10: honestly just to help people. That's it. And one of 593 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 10: the things that I really want to, and I know 594 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 10: it's a big tall order, but I really honestly want 595 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 10: to try to start doing this. We've just got to 596 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 10: stop this whole campy stuff where we're pushing people to 597 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 10: the extremes. We need to bring more people into the 598 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 10: process and solve these problems. Because the Minnesota that I 599 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 10: grew up and I've been to my entire life, it's 600 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 10: leaving us. And I know you know this, but it's 601 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 10: escaping us from downtown to and spreading out even to 602 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 10: places like Wasseika and Worthington and certainly just talk to 603 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 10: Jeff Johnson about Saint Cloud, which honestly just breaks my heart. 604 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 10: We just have to fix these problems, and honestly, the 605 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 10: only way to do that is for pragmatic leadership that 606 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 10: is willing to fight and to get into these battles 607 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 10: as hard as possible and just not relent until some 608 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 10: of these problems get fixed. 609 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 5: Were the campaign donations similar in terms of rationale? For 610 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 5: Secretary of State Steve Simon, I asked that I have 611 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 5: a lot of the talkbacks that are rolling in, and 612 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 5: there's kind of an even split of commentary from those 613 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 5: that are that are listening, from the friends of the show. 614 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 5: So I'm just curious about the donations to the Secretary 615 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 5: of State Steve Simon. 616 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 10: I'll be even more blount with respect to Steve. So, 617 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 10: Steve worked at my law firm when when he first started, 618 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 10: and he worked for me at Robin's Capelin for about god, 619 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 10: I want to say, seven to eight nine years someplace 620 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 10: in there. And I'm getting older and yours are kind 621 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 10: of blending together. On a personal level, I just really 622 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 10: like Steve, I mean, and I understand that there's a 623 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 10: lot of major disagreements with respect to what he's done. 624 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 10: I disagreed specifically with Steve with respect to how he 625 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 10: is specifically behaved with respect to the quorum requirement at 626 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 10: the very beginning of this legislature. I really feel that 627 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 10: that was another missed opportunity, frankly on both sides. And 628 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 10: I've disagreed with Steve, and he and I will still 629 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 10: talk and very much disagree on issues. But he's also 630 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 10: a friend, and I like to support my friends too, 631 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 10: And but with respect to getting access to Steve, you know, no, 632 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 10: if I'm being honest, No, that was frankly done more 633 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 10: because he's worked for me for years and I count 634 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 10: him among. 635 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 5: My friends talking with again gubernatorial candidate Attorney Chris Maddele. 636 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 5: Really do appreciate the frankness in the conversation this morning. 637 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 5: I have one more question regarding that, because again I'm 638 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 5: seeing I'm seeing a rather even split of individuals' views 639 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 5: over this. A lot of people are really gravitating towards 640 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 5: what you want to do, regarding fraud and calling out 641 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 5: Republicans as well. And then there are those that are, 642 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 5: you know, continuing to question the donations in the past. 643 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 5: And I know you expect this, and you've been addressing 644 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 5: this well a little bit unconventional, but why run as 645 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 5: a given this? I mean, you obviously knew this heading 646 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 5: into making the announcement to run for governor. Why not 647 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 5: run as as an independent, you know, considering the controversy 648 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 5: surrounding you? 649 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 4: And why go in as a Republican. 650 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 10: I was born and rased Republican. My dad made all 651 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 10: three of my siblings read and me read Berry Goldwater's 652 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 10: Conscience of a Conservative, which I think I have now 653 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 10: probably eight or nine copies of that. I have one 654 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 10: signed one from Goldwater himself. I have always been a Republican. 655 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 10: I have felt at times that when Republicans have gotten 656 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 10: into these kind of institutional you know, kind of protect 657 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 10: the system issues that I get really upset with them. 658 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 10: But frankly, I get really upset with the system. And 659 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 10: that's one of the you know, that's one of the things. 660 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 10: I'm not a politician. I am, frankly god willing. Even 661 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 10: if I become governor, I don't become a politician. I 662 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 10: just want to actually fix stuff. I don't want to 663 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 10: do this hyperbole. I don't want to do the double speak. 664 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 10: I don't want to do the talking points. I'll leave 665 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 10: that to my competition. I'm just going to be as 666 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 10: honest as I possibly can. And then all I want 667 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 10: to do is fight on behalf of Minnesotans. I want 668 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 10: to bring Minnesota the change that so desperately need, that 669 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 10: we can actually be proud of our state again, because 670 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 10: right now, you know, Mississippi beating us an education. I mean, 671 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 10: my god, I mean, how how how did that happen? 672 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 5: Let me ask us one last question, it's about your campaign, 673 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 5: and then we'll and I and again, I appreciate the 674 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 5: time this morning talking with a gubernatorial candidate, Chris Maddel, 675 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 5: and an attorney. We played the I played the clip 676 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 5: of you at the at the town hall and talking 677 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 5: about your platform, what you wanted to do. What is 678 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 5: what is your number one priority? Is it tackling the fraud? 679 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 5: Is it broader than that? If you're elected as governor, 680 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 5: what is it that you want to hit the ground 681 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 5: running right out of the gate to try to go 682 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 5: on address in your power? 683 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 10: Day one is kind of a twofer. Fraud is number one. 684 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 10: We need to have our citizens trust in our government 685 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 10: get We need to get back to the point where 686 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 10: we remember that a tax is a loss of our freedom. 687 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 10: If you are telling somebody I know you better than you, John, 688 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 10: where your money should be spent, so you should give 689 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 10: me your money. We have forgotten that. We have just 690 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 10: gotten so rained in that in Minnesota with every sort 691 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 10: of tax right now, and then when that goes into 692 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 10: the government and it's thrown away to a bunch of 693 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 10: fraudsters and nobody's paying attention to it, nobody's actually fighting 694 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 10: about it. Everybody's just complaining about it. That erose the 695 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 10: trust in government that I think is essential, which brings 696 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 10: me back to number two, and that's cops. I really 697 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 10: we need to get to a point again where we're 698 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 10: just not talking about supporting police and we're actually doing 699 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 10: something about it, because this is the bedrock of our society. 700 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 10: If we do not have effective law enforcement and we 701 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 10: are not safe in our streets, we have nothing. And 702 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 10: I am mystified by the Minneapolis city government about how 703 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 10: far away that they've gotten from this too frankly radical, 704 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 10: and I would go so far as to say, almost 705 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 10: kind of Stalin esque views that we can do all 706 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 10: this on our own as opposed to using the law 707 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,479 Speaker 10: enforcement that is there. And these then women just want 708 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 10: to help. They just want to protect us, and we're 709 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 10: holding them back. We're holding them back right now from 710 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 10: protecting other law enforcement officers with respect to immigrations and customs. 711 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 10: I mean, and this is a this is not just immigration. 712 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 10: This is also a transnational drug enforcement organization that as 713 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 10: we saw that they when they were executing a lawful 714 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 10: warn't on Lake Street and there was a riot there, 715 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 10: And now we have the police chief saying don't help them. 716 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 10: I mean, that is and these are the people that 717 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 10: are talking about Trump doesn't respect the rule of law. 718 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 10: I mean, that's what we're really talking about now. 719 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 4: I mean, this is federal law is. 720 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 10: Not a cafeteria plan. You know, we have to follow 721 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 10: every law that is our society. If you don't like it, 722 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,959 Speaker 10: you get the law changed or you vote people out. 723 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 10: But right now, what's happening in Minneapolis is to me, 724 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 10: it's lawless, and it's absolutely unconstitutional, and it has to 725 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 10: be stopped. And the place that that needs to be 726 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 10: stopped first is with effective law enforcement on the streets. 727 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 4: The website is Matal for Governor m A. 728 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 5: D E. 729 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 4: L f o R Medal for Governor. 730 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 5: Little hat tip on a pat myself on the back, Chris, 731 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 5: I think I actually pronounced your name correctly every soon 732 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 5: nex time this morning, So hey listen, thank you so 733 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 5: much again, it was short note. Haven't you come on 734 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 5: the show this morning? And I really do appreciate the conversation. 735 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 5: We'll talk again. We'll talking agin real soon. Thank you, Chris, same, 736 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 5: thank you. 737 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 10: Thanks sir. 738 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 4: Coming up, we'll get to your talkbacks. 739 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 5: One of those that rolled in from the iHeartRadio app 740 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 5: brought to you by Lyndahl Realty. As I predicted last week, 741 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 5: it was one of two doors that Walls would use. 742 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 5: You either go media silence or he would head out 743 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 5: of town. He went out of town. He was in Seattle. 744 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 5: I'll share with you the audio. Apparently he's in San 745 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 5: Francisco next. Also, Liz Collin from Alphews joins us this 746 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 5: morning at eight thirty here on Twinsday's News Talk AM 747 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 5: eleven thirty and one oh three five FM. 748 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 10: Good morning, and I love your show.