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Speaker 2: So, who is the player we most want the Bengals

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Speaker 1: With the tenth overall pick.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to those questions and more with our

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Speaker 2: on this hour, the unsponsored Weekend tip off as we

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Speaker 2: roll through all of this weekend's area college basketball games,

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Speaker 2: tip off at seven o'clock with Jim Kelch and Rick Brooring.

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Speaker 2: So this is something that James Rapine and I have

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Speaker 2: before the offseason can really begin, and we kind of

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Speaker 2: run through all the different offseason storylines and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: we'll leave some out, but we'll hit all the big ones.

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Speaker 2: James is with us, you know his work, of course

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Speaker 2: from being a part of the station ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: But more than anything, the Locked On Bengals podcast entered

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Speaker 2: the Jungle Bengals Talk dot com. It's awesome to have you.

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Speaker 2: Did I leave anything out?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: Probably, but I don't think so. I think he covered

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Speaker 1: Very good.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, there's there's a lot for you and

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Speaker 2: I to cover. I'll start with the question of the week.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready?

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Speaker 3: I'm ready?

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Speaker 1: Who is the best coach in the AFC North?

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Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy, Mike McCarthy, and I don't understand why everybody's

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Speaker 4: pretending like Mike McCarthy hasn't won sixty one percent of

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Speaker 4: his games. I would love a coach that wins sixty

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Speaker 4: saying the Bengals should have fired Zach Taylor, that I

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Speaker 4: somehow worse than Zach Taylor. Well show me where where

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Speaker 4: that on paper makes any sense. So Mike McCarthy is

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Speaker 4: the best head coach the AMC North. I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: it's close. That might not be the case a year

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Speaker 4: from now, but today my man Mike is certainly the

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Speaker 1: You're going with my man Mike.

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Speaker 4: Huh interesting, Well, yeah I am. I'm going with my

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Speaker 4: man Mike because I feel like for some reason he's

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Speaker 4: become a social media punchline. And by the way, maybe

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Speaker 4: that's deserved. But my non man, Sean Payton, deserves plenty

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Speaker 3: And now we're getting into the NFL and you had

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Speaker 4: The top Bengals, but Sean Payton is just as big

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Speaker 4: of a loser in the playoffs and chokes so many

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Speaker 4: of these big games away. And so yeah, Sean Payton,

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Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy, Spider Man, mean, same guy.

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Speaker 2: I like that, very good, sort of sort of hot takey,

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Speaker 2: that's making a layup, right, A layup is signed Dalton Reisner.

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Speaker 1: Why has it not been done yet.

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Speaker 4: Well, the Bengals always move a bit slower than we

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Speaker 2: Yes, because I'm looking for a better version of Jake Browning,

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Speaker 3: These Bengals need to think.

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Speaker 4: They have a lot of holes, right, And so how

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Speaker 4: Berret Carter's the one communicating and supposed to be this

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Speaker 2: I can ask you this question every week for the

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Speaker 2: Who is your favorite possible pike at number ten overall?

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Speaker 3: Oh Man, Yeah, it's so early, and I.

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Speaker 4: It's to me the three guys that are just so

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Speaker 4: best safety tandems in the league.

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Speaker 3: And that would be my mindset.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I wouldn't shy away from Caleb Downs

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Speaker 4: I'm making that very clear Bengals, So just so you know,

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Speaker 4: and that doesn't mean Jordan Biddle can't play.

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Speaker 3: Somebody's at the end of his rookie deal. So that

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Speaker 4: Two other guys ruben Bain is just nasty.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know the arm length.

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Speaker 4: Stuff, but you look at him and he's not Gino,

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Speaker 4: Like that's not what I'm trying to say. But like

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Speaker 4: Gino wasn't small, Gino Atkins wasn't small, he was short,

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Speaker 4: and when you saw Gino, you're like, oh, well, it's

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Speaker 4: just bowling ball. And I look at Ruben Bain and

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Speaker 4: I did it. He's not going to necessarily be a

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Speaker 4: defensive tackle in the league. And though some think that,

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Speaker 4: but it's the same way, Like I don't think ruben.

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Speaker 3: Bain is small.

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Speaker 4: He's just a little shorter than the Bengals would usually

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Speaker 4: go for in his arm length is an issue.

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Speaker 3: Guess what.

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Speaker 4: Guess who's arm length was an issue when he was

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Speaker 4: being drafted, Trey Henderson's. And so I look at ruben

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Speaker 4: Bain and I think he'd be ready to go and

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Speaker 4: contribute right away. And then the other one just juice

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Speaker 4: as a pass rusher, David Bailey, He's not as physically imposing,

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Speaker 4: just a guy that can get after the passer like

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Speaker 4: you could use that, especially with the Shamar Stewarts and

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Speaker 4: the three. If I had to pick one today, Mo,

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Speaker 4: it would be Bain and I just one. I love

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Speaker 4: the idea of Bane. Can you imagine the Dark Knight

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Speaker 4: Rises clips that they could play at pay Course Stadium

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Speaker 4: after he makes a sack like so, so that would

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Speaker 4: be fun. And I just think he's got me the

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Speaker 4: So if there was a guy today, Ruben Baine Junior

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Speaker 4: out of Miami, if he's there at ten, you do

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Speaker 4: the Bain dance and you you get up to the

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Speaker 2: In all seriousness Like that to me tells me they're

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Speaker 2: more at what the dude puts on film, which was

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Speaker 2: the big discussion after Shamar Stewart and and you're always

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Speaker 2: gonna want to look at measurables. You're always going to

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Speaker 2: be interested in in what kind of physical specimen you're

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Speaker 2: investing in. But like if if if the big discussion

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Speaker 2: last year was lean into what's on film, then you're

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Speaker 2: doing that with Ruben Bain. I love it awesome with

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Speaker 2: your time. I appreciate it. I'm sure I'll bother you soon, man,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much.

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Speaker 4: I didn't name a wide receiver at ken could happen.

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Speaker 3: You never know.

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Speaker 1: We have three months. We have three months.

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Speaker 2: Yes, trust me, I might do this. I might do this.

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Speaker 2: We're like, I like, I check in with you. Let's

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Speaker 2: maybe every two weeks just to go, okay, you know

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Speaker 2: who is it this week? Maybe we'll do that. We'll

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Speaker 2: see you're the man.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 4: It would be a little prospect spotlight. I man, I

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Speaker 4: appreciate you mo YouTube.

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