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Speaker 1: God, Max just proves what a two tier system we

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Speaker 1: They do this, they know and it's not non wink wink,

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Speaker 2: That's a Lou friend of the show.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I only bring it up because Lou

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Speaker 4: is Lou, much like you know Tom and Scott's Twin

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Speaker 4: Cities News Talking Am eleven thirty one O three five

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Speaker 4: Install studios. It is a freedom Friday, which means you're

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Speaker 4: on and off topic comments all morning long.

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Speaker 2: Although what I thought was.

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Speaker 4: Going to be a relatively benign story that we would

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Speaker 4: Representative Max Rymer joins me in studio. Good morning, nice

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Speaker 4: to see you.

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Speaker 5: You're going to be up with me at the Reagan

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Speaker 5: dinner tomorrow night in Chicago County. Looking forward to John's Country.

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Speaker 5: John is coming up. I'm staring at my Reagan's speech

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Speaker 5: looking forward to it, trying to decide whether or not

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Speaker 2: Spruts it up just just wing it.

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Speaker 5: I don't think I'm just gonna I think I'm just

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Speaker 5: we have a guest joining us in the studio, Catherine Johnson.

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Speaker 5: American Experiment should be here soon.

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Speaker 4: I just got an ETA from businessman.

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Speaker 2: What do you what is his name is? What is

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Speaker 5: That's right, business owner ak Kamara of uh, what's the

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Speaker 5: documentary again? I almost said a precarious state, of precarious

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Speaker 4: immigration agents have arrested an i llegal immigrant. He was

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Speaker 4: Now he wasn't from Mexico. He's from Montenegro Radulai Bojovic

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Speaker 4: This is according to DHS. Thursday, I was working as

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Speaker 3: Good morning guys. I'm just wondering how an illegal immigrant

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Speaker 5: We talked about it earlier, and then we had a

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Speaker 2: But in this case, you have a guy who's here illegally.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I remember what they're talking about.

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Speaker 5: It'll be interesting to see what kind of legs this

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Speaker 2: Like I said, the implications are huge.

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Speaker 4: Immigrations and Customs Enforcement claims to have arrested an illegal

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Speaker 4: A search of an online ICE database confirmed that as

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Speaker 4: York State Department of Motor Vehicles told Blaze News last

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Speaker 2: I mean repeat the same questions.

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Speaker 4: That were raised with the illegal alien law enforcement officers

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Speaker 2: How does that happen?

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Speaker 5: You know what the saddest part about all this is

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Speaker 5: is if no Name given.

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Speaker 5: We learned this week that No Name given probably cast

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Speaker 2: A no name given notation. I tell you when I can't.

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Speaker 5: When the Trump administration gets our Minnesota voter roles and

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to fraud.

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Speaker 4: Oh yay, Minnesota cuts eight hundred sketchy Medicaid providers, but

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Speaker 2: How does what you're the representative? What are we doing?

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Get out and fix it.

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Speaker 5: Go Hey, we only I know some some of my

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Speaker 2: Listen to the show.

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Speaker 5: We only need one of you to admit that there's

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Speaker 7: Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: I love this time of year. It's still dark outside.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I dig it.

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Speaker 2: I think I firmly cemented not dead naming you.

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Speaker 2: In my brain. You didn't remember your other last name.

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Speaker 7: The Vikings.

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Speaker 5: Are you not a Viking?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely a Vikings fan. I just find the copy.

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Speaker 4: Weird, you know, it's like the Vikings and there are Vikings,

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Speaker 5: Give it four years. When we figure out that Vikings

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Speaker 12: Yeah, maybe this is preemptive I'm sure there's something there

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Speaker 2: Name of the team. Oh so I'm totally blowing in

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Speaker 2: right now. Is that what's happening? You're good?

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Speaker 5: But yeah, well but I wasn't good the other time

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Speaker 11: John, great Freedom Friday show this morning. I mean, in

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Speaker 11: the spirit of that, since the government shutdown is going on,

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that any attempt to go and repeal

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Speaker 5: Confused about how a government and shutdown would impact the

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Speaker 2: It doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Whole shutdown right now is based off of just really quick,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's one of those things where I think

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Speaker 2: I'm all for it.

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Speaker 5: Obamacare was a trillion dollar windfall for the healthcare industry.

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Speaker 2: In Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: We always had this kind of fallback pool if you're

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Speaker 5: The idea that we solved the problem that didn't exist

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Speaker 2: That's that's the truth.

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Speaker 4: Let's get so one more talkback relating to the immigration

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Speaker 4: turn our attention over to fraud. As I mentioned, medicaid providers,

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Speaker 2: So I don't know about you, guys. I feel better now.

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Speaker 5: Oh well, he's earned that because everything else we've ever

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Speaker 2: They can't even launch a website.

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Speaker 13: Good Morning, John and team on Freedom of Friday or

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Speaker 13: Rick in Virginia. So they found somebody who should not

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Speaker 11: You no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Now. It's Catherine Johnson from American Experiment. Good Morning. Sure

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Speaker 2: to check out their podcast every Tuesday. Another great one.

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Speaker 2: This week he had Bill Walsh.

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Speaker 4: On Talk You Very Much and Lisa Da Lisa day

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Speaker 2: That was good stuff.

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Speaker 4: Max Rymer representative joins us in studio to morning, He's

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Speaker 2: I'll be there with you. I should be fine holding

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Speaker 4: I went obscure though, like on the list of on

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I went deep into the list two you

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Speaker 5: John found the two Ronald Reagan quotes about Star Wars

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Speaker 2: It's funny because I have that in my speech too.

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Speaker 2: I have the Star Wars. I know you too well.

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Speaker 2: I've been doing this too long.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be no, I'm looking I'm absolutely looking looking

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Speaker 2: Where am I going to be?

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Speaker 5: Where am I at? Where am I going to be

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Speaker 4: Ak Kamara should be joining us. I feel like he's

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Speaker 4: Bill Glong, centered of the American Experiment hey h, writes

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Speaker 4: this Minnesota Star Tribune digging deeper into the overlapping frauds

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Speaker 4: plaguing the state, Minnesota investigating more companies linked to those

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Speaker 4: charged with medicaid frauds. Specifically, the Star Tribune dug into

449
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Speaker 4: the corporate holdings of five of the eight defendants indicted

450
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Speaker 4: last month in the housing and Stabilization services scandal, and

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Speaker 4: they found Minnesota officials investigating the five additional companies.

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Speaker 2: State officials also.

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Speaker 4: Acknowledge this week that they are scrutinizing another indicted provider

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Speaker 4: that received millions in payments for other state services. To

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Speaker 4: keep it all straight, Star Tribune created a nifty color graphic,

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Speaker 4: complete with circles and lines to show the overlapping ownership

457
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Speaker 4: of the nine companies, the five defendants, and the various

458
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Speaker 4: lines of business a bit of a ve diagram of fraud.

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Speaker 4: Minnesota Department of Human Services confirmed the fraud and investigations

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Speaker 4: after the Start Tribune asked about the ties between the

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Speaker 4: providers charged with the fraud and the state housing program.

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Speaker 2: So what are the additional businesses?

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Speaker 5: The fraud allegations go beyond the housing services and include

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Speaker 5: DHS Early Intensive Development, Behavioral Intervention programs, which provide services

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Speaker 5: to young people with autism, and Integrated Community Supports, which

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Speaker 5: helps adults with this abilities live independently. Criminal cases filed

467
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Speaker 5: last month against the eight HSS defendants are still in

468
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Speaker 5: the earliest stages, with preliminary motions being filed. And I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna go down that lonely highway theory again and we'll

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Speaker 5: apply it to the same thing that we were doing

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Speaker 5: relating to the illegal alien law enforcement officer in Illinois.

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Speaker 4: This is all the fraud that we're just simply aware

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Speaker 4: of right now. I'm very, very interested to learn just

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Speaker 4: what else is going to be exposed, especially between now

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Speaker 4: and the governor's race, because we know that the estimates

476
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Speaker 4: are what two billion, but there's been that other six

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Speaker 4: point five billion number out there, and.

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Speaker 2: I assume that's attached to the.

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Speaker 5: Other ongoing investigations of the public, and that the three

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Speaker 5: of us here in the room just simply haven't been

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Speaker 5: made aware of. I've said it before, and it's a

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Speaker 5: great point, that two billion number.

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Speaker 2: These are the fraudsters who are.

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Speaker 5: Dumb enough to get caught, or who got greedy enough

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Speaker 5: at one time to get caught. When you take that

486
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Speaker 5: two billion number and you actually think about, who are

487
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Speaker 5: the masterminds behind some of this, Who are the career

488
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Speaker 5: criminals that have gotten involved in this, who are the

489
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Speaker 5: savvy operators I'm guessing I'm guessing you could probably double

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Speaker 5: or triple that number. And if you triple that number,

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Speaker 5: you're talking about we have a six billion dollar deficit

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Speaker 5: in this state and maybe maybe all of it, maybe

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Speaker 5: all of it is fraud.

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Speaker 10: Well, these are the cases that really grind my gears,

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Speaker 10: the ones where you look at this ven diagram and

496
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Speaker 10: it's like the same company is providing services to children

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Speaker 10: with autism and people that need to find homes out

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Speaker 10: of you know, out of jail, or it's like these

499
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Speaker 10: completely disparate things. Why didn't no one catch this on

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Speaker 10: the front end because they can try and claw back

501
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Speaker 10: this money, but most of it is gone.

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Speaker 4: Well to that point, let me we have the Minnesota

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Speaker 4: cutting the eight hundred sketchy medicaid providers, and we'll i'll

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Speaker 4: get to this. I'm going to move another story up

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Speaker 4: to the up in the stack here, Catherine Johnson, since

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Speaker 4: you brought it up. Alpha News has an extensive piece

507
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Speaker 4: out this morning Jenna Globe reporting the same Burnsville Strip

508
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Speaker 4: mall space once used by a man convicted in Minnesota's

509
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Speaker 4: largest fraud case, is now home to a taxpayer funded

510
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Speaker 4: adult daycare that has already received more than one million

511
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Speaker 4: dollars just last year alone. Now, I'll I'll jump to

512
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Speaker 4: the end of this just briefly and say that as

513
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Speaker 4: of right now, they've not been accused of anything, and

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Speaker 4: DHS says they've actually looked at this place. However, when

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Speaker 4: we get into the details of the story, what you're

516
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Speaker 4: going to find out is like Jena Globe went to

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Speaker 4: this location where they're supposed to be providing all these

518
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Speaker 4: services like a few times, and there's just the person

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Speaker 4: working there. There's nothing going on inside of the of

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Speaker 4: the building whatsoever. And it raises all the questions that

521
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Speaker 4: we've already been talking about on the show. Who is

522
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Speaker 4: turning potentially a blind eye to all of all of this.

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Speaker 4: The storefront at fifteen oh one Riverwood Drive houses the

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Speaker 4: Nall Wall Restaurant. This is operated by Abdullah Kadir Awale,

525
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Speaker 4: who pleaded guilty in the two hundred and fifty million

526
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Speaker 4: dollars Feeding Our Future scandal. Awala admitted to using his

527
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Speaker 4: restaurant to file fraudulent meal claims for children who never existed.

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Speaker 4: Immediately next door is a second business. This is the

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Speaker 4: Bashi Adult Daycare, Inc. This was registered in sweet one

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Speaker 4: sixty under Owally's name state finaling show. It's unclear whether

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Speaker 4: the restaurant ever fully closed after the Feeding Our Future scandal,

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Speaker 4: but DHS later revoked the adult day care's license in

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Speaker 4: June of twenty twenty three, after the state had already

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Speaker 4: paid the business nearly one hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: According to state records.

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Speaker 4: Let me back up here just briefly, and we'll bring

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Speaker 4: in ak Kamara on good Morning aka.

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Speaker 7: Good morning no relation.

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Speaker 14: Abdul the Wale i'm at vudachman Maga Kamara known as

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Speaker 14: ak Kamara, so.

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Speaker 2: Business owner, business owner.

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Speaker 4: You watch the Precarious State documentary and wherein they highlight

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Speaker 4: going through the areas of Minneapolis that used to be thriving,

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Speaker 4: and there's all these empty storefronts. Kyle and I my

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Speaker 4: youngest we went to go see tront Aris for the

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Speaker 4: second time on Imax at Rosedale and you know, in

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Speaker 4: the the Imax theater there, And.

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Speaker 2: Was there an adult daycare in the movie theater? No,

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Speaker 2: but there were a bunch.

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Speaker 4: Of empty storefronts where last time we were there they

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Speaker 4: were businesses there. I only bring this up with regard

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Speaker 4: to the story because you have these seemingly legitimate businesses

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Speaker 4: that are folding, going elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: Simply can't operate.

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Speaker 4: And yet here you have these particular services, these businesses

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Speaker 4: that were under investigation involved in fraud, and yet they

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Speaker 4: continue to remained through all of it and continue to

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Speaker 4: receive state funding. And again there is no direct correlation here.

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Speaker 4: As I mentioned at the end of the story, DHS

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Speaker 4: has looked into it. They don't seem to have been

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Speaker 4: found to be fraudulent at all. But I mean, red

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Speaker 4: flags are just going up all over the place.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, so yesterday or the day before when the Fraud Committee,

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Speaker 14: it might have been even three days before.

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Speaker 7: When they had their hearing.

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Speaker 14: Kristin Robbins, representative and chair of that committee, brought up

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Speaker 14: the fact that she did some digging through some nonprofits

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Speaker 14: nine nineties and some of them one hundred percent of

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Speaker 14: their funding came from the government.

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Speaker 7: That's a huge red flag.

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Speaker 14: If you create a nonprofit you have no other donation

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Speaker 14: source other than the government, that to me is like

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Speaker 14: a huge red flag that you're probably doing fraudulent things.

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Speaker 14: And when you see Main Street Minnesota, Main Street America businesses,

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Speaker 14: you know, failing because of Democrat policies, but then you

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Speaker 14: see one sector of one ethnic group thriving, and you

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Speaker 14: have all of these other pieces. Listen, I was born

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Speaker 14: at night, but I wasn't born last night. And I

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Speaker 14: think that it's incumbent upon those in power to actually

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Speaker 14: create structures and guardrails to be able to stop the fraud.

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Speaker 14: I had this conversation when John and I we spoke

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Speaker 14: at Senate District forty five fundraiser, and I told people,

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Speaker 14: I said, listen, this isn't just like a somalis are

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Speaker 14: bad type of thing. That's a preposterous statement. We are

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Speaker 14: individuals God created us as individuals. But the idea that

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Speaker 14: you create this entire incentive structure forced themalies to take

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Speaker 14: advantage of it.

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Speaker 7: Of course they're going to.

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Speaker 14: And that's really what's at the bottom of this is

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Speaker 14: that the more that we pretend that this isn't happening

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Speaker 14: as a society and our elected officials, the more fraud.

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Speaker 7: Is going to occur.

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Speaker 14: Because why wouldn't it If I was in the same situation.

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Speaker 14: You know, myself is my values, I would say no.

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Speaker 14: But when we set low bars, don't be surprised when

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Speaker 14: people don't even.

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Speaker 7: Meet that low bar.

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Speaker 14: If you set a high bar, people aren't going to

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Speaker 14: meet it all the time, but it's going to be

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Speaker 14: significantly better than if you set a low bar.

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Speaker 4: A Burnsville property owner who spoke to alphin News and

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Speaker 4: the condition of anonymity and said he grew suspicious of

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Speaker 4: the adult daycare center after months of driving past an

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Speaker 4: empty parking lot. He's like, I stopped there three times

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Speaker 4: in about six months. There was just one person behind

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Speaker 4: the counter. I asked about enrolling my eighty five year

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Speaker 4: old mom, and every time they said we're full, we're full,

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Speaker 4: but there's no one there.

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Speaker 2: It's downright disturbing.

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Speaker 5: He even said when he offered to pay privately, the

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Speaker 5: staff declined.

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Speaker 4: Nothing ever moved inside that place. It all seemed so

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Speaker 4: staged and faked. Now alf The News spoke with the

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Speaker 4: businessman who operates several establishments the daycare facilities. Several established

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Speaker 4: daycare facilities, excuse me about how such programs typically function,

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Speaker 4: and he said, well, he could not comment on Bashie specifically.

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Speaker 4: And again, as the September twenty twenty five, the Bashie

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Speaker 4: Daycare Center has received about one point two million in

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Speaker 4: state payments to your point AKA according to DHS. He said,

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Speaker 4: it would be highly unusual for a licensed provider receiving

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Speaker 4: that level of state funding to appear empty or near empty.

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Speaker 2: Our participants are with.

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Speaker 4: Us six to eight hours a day, doing various activities.

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Speaker 4: It keeps them engaged and gives caregivers a break. That's

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Speaker 4: the whole point of adult day care services. When asked

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Speaker 4: what kind of activities typically take place, he mentioned arts, crafts, bingo, trivia, dancing,

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Speaker 4: walking around the facility.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like a freedom Friday.

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Speaker 4: He added that after launch, participants sometimes get tired.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't be uncommon for them to be relaxing.

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Speaker 4: But if they're sitting in a chair doing nothing for

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Speaker 4: two straight hours, that's typically not the best for seniors.

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Speaker 2: I want to want to hang on.

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Speaker 5: You go ahead, imagine to the point of that story.

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Speaker 5: Imagine the dread you must feel if you're running a

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Speaker 5: fraudulent adult daycare operation and an actual potential customer comes.

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Speaker 7: We do, Oh no, what have we ever done?

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Speaker 2: What's the procedure?

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Speaker 7: Panic?

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Speaker 4: The daycare center lists robust hours of operation seven am

641
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 4: to seven pm, seven days a week on its website.

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Speaker 4: The center advertises benefits for participants, including daily exercises, creative

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Speaker 4: arts classes, bingo, music, entertainment, cooking, baking, and educational.

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Speaker 2: Groups and discussions.

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Speaker 5: And again, according to that one guy, if you wanted

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Speaker 5: to go and do like an investigation and bring somebody in.

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Speaker 5: According to the ladies sitting up with the counter, they're full.

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Speaker 5: They're full. Apparently.

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Speaker 4: Alpha News visited the facility multiple times on weekday mornings,

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Speaker 4: but observed none of the activities advertise on the website.

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Speaker 4: On Monday, ten am, a reporter saw a small front

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Speaker 4: room with a counter, two couches, and a table. About

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Speaker 4: a dozen older women sat quietly with no visible activities,

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Speaker 4: screens or books. Staff told reporters there were no openings,

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Speaker 4: but offered to place their aim on.

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Speaker 7: A wait list.

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Speaker 4: Around eleven thirty, Often News again observed six to ten

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Speaker 4: older women sitting in chairs with the television audible in

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Speaker 4: the background, but no visible.

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Speaker 5: Engagement or staff interaction. And then on Friday at ten

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Speaker 5: forty five am, the doors were locked. No one appeared

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Speaker 5: to be inside.

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Speaker 4: A photo at the time showed an interior dark, empty,

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Speaker 4: with no staff participants visible. Now, before I move on

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Speaker 4: to this next part of it, anybody else want to

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Speaker 4: add well, I got everybody's got sap.

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Speaker 10: Okay, I just want to point out what Ak said

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Speaker 10: is an extremely good point because if you have a

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Speaker 10: nonprofit that gets one hundred percent of its money from

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Speaker 10: any one source, that is completely corrupt. And if you

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Speaker 10: have a board of directors that's allowing that to happen,

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Speaker 10: that's really a derelictive duty. Okay, So the government. One

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Speaker 10: thing the Minnesota government would could do max years is

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Speaker 10: not me, is they could they We're not going to

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Speaker 10: give to nonprofits that only get one hundred percent of

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Speaker 10: their funding from the government. You have to have at

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Speaker 10: least fifty percent from others'.

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Speaker 7: Shutting out half of them right from the show.

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Speaker 10: It has created the system where all of these people

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Speaker 10: get their paychecks from nonprofits that are getting all.

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Speaker 2: Of their money from the government.

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Speaker 10: So then we have a system of people who rely

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Speaker 10: on the government, like some sort of Medicare Medicaid system, but.

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Speaker 2: That has none of the checks.

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Speaker 10: They just get the free money from the government to

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Speaker 10: pay their salaries and there's no checks.

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Speaker 2: I have a content idea, right, this is what I

688
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Speaker 2: wanted to say.

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Speaker 5: John and Ak are trying to build their brands on

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Speaker 5: the Chinese buyware app.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so here's what we do to start. Here's what

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Speaker 2: we do.

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Speaker 5: We get John and some makeup, all right, we make

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Speaker 5: him look a little bit older than he is.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard to do, all right. And then

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Speaker 2: we drive around to adult day care centers.

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Speaker 5: Ak is his son or his nephew and say, I

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Speaker 5: want to sign my elderly you can see how old

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Speaker 5: he is. I want to I want to sign up

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Speaker 5: my elderly uncle for this adult day care center.

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Speaker 2: Will you accept me and get reactions.

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Speaker 14: That would that would be really good because like, technically, right,

703
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Speaker 14: my mom is white.

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Speaker 15: They have a white uncle uncle Jack, So we don't

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Speaker 15: talk about Uncle Jack. No, he's awesome man. He lives

706
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Speaker 15: in Montana. He's a mountain man. But he's a Democrat.

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Speaker 7: Listen. I was just gonna say this.

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Speaker 14: Maybe maybe these adult daycare providers have developed this brand

709
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Speaker 14: new technology that allows them to teleport, and so they

710
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Speaker 14: actually are keeping everyone in this parallel dimension and so

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Speaker 14: they can save on space.

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Speaker 4: I think the more logical answers they're just receiving all

713
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Speaker 4: of their money from the government and have no need

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Speaker 4: to have to bring anybody in.

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Speaker 2: They were asked by the way. Alpha News said.

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Speaker 4: The Bashi Daycare Center responded to inquiries through an attorney

717
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Speaker 4: who said the business is legitimate operating normally. Abdul Kadir

718
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Speaker 4: Awala has no connection with the Bashi Daycare Center. He

719
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Speaker 4: said the company is open operating during his normal business hours.

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Speaker 4: Eddy reports of the contrary, if they exist, are not accurate.

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Speaker 4: The attorney also confirmed the ownership breakdown and said the

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Speaker 4: company's were properly.

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Speaker 2: Updated with the state now. DHS records do show.

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Speaker 4: In June a routine inspection of the daycare center result

725
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Speaker 4: in a correction order with six citations. This range from

726
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Speaker 4: missing medical reports to incomplete care plans to outdated participant records.

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Speaker 4: Inspectors gave the center thirty to sixty days it could

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Speaker 4: go and correct those problems. And as I said in

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Speaker 4: the before, in the story it says, DHS says that

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Speaker 4: they've confirmed, no, you know that there's been nothing at

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Speaker 4: fault here regarding this particular place. It's that it reviewed

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Speaker 4: the sites licensing history, ownership disclosures, and business filings when

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Speaker 4: processing the new application.

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Speaker 2: But think about this too.

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Speaker 10: For every nonprofit group like this that is so blatantly

736
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Speaker 10: committing fraud, there are how many more that are less

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Speaker 10: blatantly committing with fraud. They're over billing, they're doing the

738
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Speaker 10: legitimate services, but they're doing smaller things to skim more

739
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Speaker 10: money off the top from the taxpayers.

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Speaker 4: So this talkback came in with an interesting question, and

741
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Speaker 4: this is where I kind of wanted to take to

742
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Speaker 4: take this and then I want to I want to

743
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Speaker 4: talk about the cutting the medicaid providers but keeping the

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Speaker 4: payments rolling for the fantom patients. Let's go here really

745
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Speaker 4: quick on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, somebody's training these people how to commit this fraud.

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Speaker 16: And I bet you they're in exchange for money or kickbacks.

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Speaker 4: So let me let me pose it a different way.

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Speaker 4: This is the part of it that that I continue

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Speaker 4: to sort of wrap my head around, is there is

751
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Speaker 4: so much fraud going on how and so many different entities,

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Speaker 4: and it is not just you know, you have demographics

753
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Speaker 4: that are involved, but it's not just that demographic either,

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Speaker 4: and certainly wasn't the case when you go back to

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Speaker 4: feeding our future. And that's the part of it that

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Speaker 4: really sticks out to me is how is it that

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Speaker 4: there's so many people in so many different areas of

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Speaker 4: society here in Minnesota and they're all conducting this level

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Speaker 4: of fraud.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: So I I employ this strategy based off of my

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Speaker 14: experience with people that come from the Somali community. I

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Speaker 14: was an insurance agent for years and it's very tightly knit.

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Speaker 14: I wrote one family and then they brought in their

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Speaker 14: friends and basically, at one point, like I don't know,

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Speaker 14: twenty five percent of the business that I was writing

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Speaker 14: with Somali. But I had to train that population of

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Speaker 14: my clients that I'm not here just to take your money.

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Speaker 14: I actually want to write good insurance. So I would

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Speaker 14: sit down and I would do a review of their

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Speaker 14: assets all these different things, verify who actually owns and

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Speaker 14: is titled on the property and vehicles. Now, I say

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Speaker 14: this because there are plenty of insurance agents that don't

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Speaker 14: do that. And to the point that the company that

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Speaker 14: I worked for had written so many Somali policies that

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Speaker 14: did not actually do their due diligence that our entire

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Speaker 14: loss racial suffered for the entire state. And what that

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Speaker 14: means is that for like every dollar we took in

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Speaker 14: as a company, we were having to pay out nineteen cents,

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Speaker 14: so we were losing. So we'd have to take that

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Speaker 14: dollar one hundred percent of it's gone and we'd have

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Speaker 14: to pull from another pot nineteen cents. Because that community, again,

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Speaker 14: what just talk. They're close knit. Now I imagine if

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Speaker 14: you go and do the same thing. Because they're so

785
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Speaker 14: close knit, they say, hey, we got set up with

786
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Speaker 14: this one program and as long as you just file

787
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Speaker 14: your paperwork correctly, no one's going to check on you.

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Speaker 14: So it's like, cousin, do this, friend, do this, do this.

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Speaker 14: It's already a tightly knit community. And I think that's

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Speaker 14: what's really going on. I don't think that there's like

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Speaker 14: some puppet master behind the scenes having secret meetings, because that.

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Speaker 7: Would be easy to shut down. You just need one

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Speaker 7: person to roll over.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's just that instance, is what I think it is.

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Speaker 4: It would be easy to shut down if DH. If

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Speaker 4: people with DHS immediately when they saw the massive spike

797
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Speaker 4: in the amount of money they need to go and

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Speaker 4: send to these programs began to start questioning it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like you know, dropping a dropping a rock

801
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Speaker 4: in a pond and just the ripple effect over a

802
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Speaker 4: relatively short period of time. Let's get you a few

803
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Speaker 4: few talkbacks that rolled in on the Iart radio app.

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Speaker 17: And we have a holist right next to us that

805
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Speaker 17: was empty for two years and was listed as a

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Speaker 17: fifty five plus adult assisted living. I've reported it, and

807
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Speaker 17: nobody's ever contacted me, nobody's ever gotten back to me.

808
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Speaker 17: Now all of a sudden, there's people living there, but

809
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Speaker 17: they sure's hacking fifty five plus.

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Speaker 7: That sounds like a job for me and John.

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Speaker 2: Oh speaking of us, Like I said, sing operation.

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Speaker 9: A Max Scott from Lyndstrom, Heck, I am old and

813
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Speaker 9: I do that with you.

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Speaker 7: There you go, Max, you.

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Speaker 5: Scott, We'll have ak be the nephew Catherine. Maybe you

816
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 5: can be the wife or something. We'll all wear shady

817
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Speaker 5: glasses with cameras in them, and we'll Google pay some

818
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Speaker 5: take care of business.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, google glasses. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Freedom Friday is like turning into a wacky sitcom all

821
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Speaker 4: of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: Make me fun.

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Speaker 10: You know, we do have a good story about this

824
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Speaker 10: in American Experiment where Bill Walsh was doing some of

825
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Speaker 10: this on the ground, taking pictures of these feeding our

826
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Speaker 10: future centers that had no activity, and someone did once.

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Speaker 2: Question him, what are you doing? And he looked and

828
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Speaker 2: he said, oh, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 10: I just really loved the architecture over here, and it

830
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Speaker 10: was a strip mall, and then he sprinted away.

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Speaker 4: So I think I had a I had I had

832
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Speaker 4: a chuckle watching the I don't know if anybody else

833
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Speaker 4: picked up on this.

834
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Speaker 2: It is completely irrelevant. It just made me laugh.

835
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Speaker 4: But watching the Precarious State documentary and Rick cup Cello

836
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Speaker 4: when he's going through all of the empty storefronts and

837
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Speaker 4: he walks by it and he's like pulling on the doors.

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Speaker 7: That was funny.

839
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Speaker 2: How about you expecting, man, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 14: You're like, all right, all right, I'm going to walk

841
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 14: up to this building and just randomly break into it

842
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 14: if it's opening.

843
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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, and he's like, this used to be beautiful.

844
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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, man, we know, like it sucks now.

845
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Speaker 2: I'm golod. I'm not the only one of them.

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Speaker 7: I noticed that.

847
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Speaker 4: You're just doing an action to make it look interesting. Yeah, yeah,

848
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: the street, but that's exactly what you're doing, is you're

849
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Speaker 4: just trying to it.

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Speaker 7: Did it more than one?

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Speaker 14: No, he did, But if it was once, I was like, okay,

852
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 14: but I know I think he did it three times

853
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 14: because in my mind I'm a critic when I watch

854
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 14: shows and I'm like, maybe, why are you doing that?

855
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Speaker 2: Maybe we just learned something about Rick Cupceello. Maybe he

856
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: just looks for open doors.

857
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Speaker 7: That's how he had the success in his life.

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Speaker 5: Metaphor, one door closes and locks open the other door.

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Speaker 18: So that reporting on the elderly care facility. What I

860
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 18: picture some pseudo Kevin from Home Alone, where he's got

861
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Speaker 18: model railroad cars driving around with cutouts of old.

862
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Speaker 7: People on it.

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Speaker 18: That's how he shows off the people at the place

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Speaker 18: have a good day.