1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 2: If you look around, it's interesting how in life some 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: things change you see change all the time, and some 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: things don't seem to ever change no matter how long 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: it's been. Certain things seem to stay the same. In 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: my day two thousand years ago, the term tax collector 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: was a pejorative of sorts, almost a dirty word, synonymous 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 2: with sinner. I bet if you went around and asked 9 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: today what people thought about the tax collector, they'd probably 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: still think that the word or the term tax collector 11 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: is synonymous with sinner. As tax day approaches, I'm sure 12 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: you're not pleased or thinking happy thoughts about tax collectors. 13 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: You're not pleased about the thought of handing your hard 14 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: earned money over to the government. But how do you 15 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: think God feels about that? How do you think God 16 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 2: feels about taxes? You may think God opposes you paying 17 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: taxes because you read verses like Matthew eighteen fifteen through 18 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: seventeen that says, if your brother sins against you, go 19 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: and tell him his fault between you and him alone. 20 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 21 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: But if he does not listen, take one or two 22 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: others along with you, that every charge may be established 23 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he 24 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. 25 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: And if he refuses to listen to even the church, 26 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: let him be to you as a gentile and tax collector. 27 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: How could you could you not think of tax collectors 28 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 2: as outcasts when you read a verse like that, That's 29 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 2: one of many. You can read many in scripture where 30 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: it seems that tax collectors even I was mocked by some, 31 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: but by saying that I ate with tax collectors, that 32 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: I broke bread with them, somehow automatically made me bad. However, 33 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: in scripture, tax collectors weren't told to stop collecting taxes. 34 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: When the opportunity arose to be able to teach them something, 35 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: they were told to do it in a particular way. 36 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: And you can read this in scripture. While John the 37 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: Baptist was speaking to the crowds, he was approached by 38 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: a tax collector who wished to be baptized. As many 39 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: people of different walks of life would come up to 40 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: John the Baptist to be baptized. Luke three twelve and 41 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: thirteen says this tax collectors also came to be baptized 42 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: and said to him, speaking to John teacher, what shall 43 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: we do? And John replied to them, collect no more 44 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: than you are authorized to do. Collect no more than 45 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: you are authorized to do. That is what John the 46 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: Baptists taught. If taxes were somehow inherently sinful, or they 47 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: were a sin just by the very nature of being taxes, 48 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: then the advice that John the Baptist gave in this 49 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: case would not be godly at all. This would have 50 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: been a perfect time for John to condemn what the 51 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: tax collector was doing, but he didn't. All he said 52 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: was collect no more than you're authorized to do. Be 53 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: fair about it, be balanced about it. Don't use it 54 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: as an opportunity to swindle somebody or to squeeze more 55 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 2: than you should. But just because you despise paying taxes 56 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: of any kind, whether it's federal, state, property, or sales tax, 57 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that they aren't important, or that they're somehow 58 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 2: not in line with the will of God. There's a 59 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: place for them. God knows that there's a place where 60 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: taxes are needed. The more you delve into scripture, the 61 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: more you'll see God is not against you paying honest taxes. 62 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, God commands you to pay 63 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: honest taxes to the government. Romans thirteen one through seven says, 64 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: let everyone be subject to the governing authorities. For there's 65 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: no authority except that which God has established. The authorities 66 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels 67 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, 68 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: and those who do so will bring judgments onto themselves. 69 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: For rulers hold no terror of those who do right, 70 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: but for those who do wrong. Do you want to 71 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: be free from fear of the one in authority, then 72 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: do what is right and you will not be condemned. 73 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: You will be commended, for the one in authority is 74 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, 75 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: be afraid, for the rulers do not bear the sword 76 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath 77 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary 78 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment, 79 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: but also as a matter of conscience. This this is 80 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: why you pay taxes. For the authorities are God's servants 81 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: who give their full time to governing Give to everyone 82 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: what you owe them, And this is important. Listen to 83 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: this last part of verse seven, give to everyone what 84 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: you owe them. If you owe taxes, pay taxes. If revenue, 85 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: then revenue, If respect, then respect, If honor, then honor. 86 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: And it's very important there that it says, if you're 87 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: resisting governing authorities, you in fact are resisting God because 88 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: God instituted them, and you will be judged for it. 89 00:06:54,839 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: And even when Ponscious Pilot and I were talking at 90 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: my arrest prior to being crucified, he was trying to 91 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: get me just to give it all up and just 92 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: just say these words, do this, jump through these hoops, 93 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: and we'll let you go. It'll be fine. And when 94 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: I would respond in the negative, he looked at me 95 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: and said, don't you know that I could crucify you 96 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: right now? And my response was, what don't you know 97 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: that that authority comes to you from the Father. Even 98 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: misused authority is still from God. The key is for 99 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: all parties, whether you're a tax collector taxpayer, to act 100 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: appropriately and honestly according to the laws when it comes 101 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: to collecting, when it comes to paying, the key is 102 00:07:54,320 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: to do it righteously and honestly. Does that mean that 103 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: you are to take a deep gulp and give every 104 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: cent up. No, Because the laws are there in your 105 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: favor as well. The laws are there for you to 106 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: take honest deductions to find where the balance is in 107 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: all things. You're perfectly within your right, legally, spiritually to 108 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: take advantage of tax deductions that are legal, tax breaks, 109 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: tax shelters, as long as they're honest and they're legally allowed. 110 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: But it's the balance of all these things that are important. 111 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: You may be frustrated with the government at times. That's okay, 112 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: and that's normal, but there are many things that you see. 113 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 2: Maybe not every pothole is filled. Maybe you're not happy 114 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: with some of the systems, whether it be the schools 115 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: or the libraries or what have you. And hopefully you 116 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: use your voice to make change or to raise concerns. 117 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: But being a part of a community, being a part 118 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: of a system that works, means sometimes paying into it 119 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: and being a part of it that way, So you 120 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 2: can take the time, hire somebody and learn as much 121 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: as you can about the tax system to find out 122 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: how it can work in your benefit as well. But 123 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: if you try and look spiritually to scripture. If you're 124 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: trying to find that loophole in scripture that says it's 125 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: okay not to pay taxes or somehow to lie or 126 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: do any of these things, you're not going to find it. 127 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: You can look high and low if you wish, and 128 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: try and find that one loophole that will get you 129 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: out of this time, which I know is not a 130 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: fun time. But you won't ever find a place where 131 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: God says that it's okay to not be a part 132 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: of the society this way, or to somehow reject the 133 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: governing bodies. It's not fun to think of out taxes. 134 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: That it's very easy to get upset and want to 135 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: raise your fist and say I'm sick of paying taxes. 136 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to pay for anything anymore. I feel 137 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: like I'm being bled dry. But God does tell you 138 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: in scripture that taxes are important. God does tell you 139 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: in scripture that it's important for you to pay taxes. 140 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: God says that if in Romans thirteen one through seven, 141 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: that if you're not paying taxes, you're not doing the 142 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: right thing. You're rebelling against the very authorities that God 143 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: put there, and that you should give to everyone what 144 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: you owe them, whether it's taxes or revenue, or respect 145 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: or honor, that you should pass those things along. Taxes 146 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: have always been a hot button issue, and there have 147 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: been many that tried to use it to their own 148 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: political or even spiritual gain. In my day, the Pharisees 149 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: tried to trap me by asking me how I felt 150 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: about taxes. Of course, they were trying to get me 151 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: in a position where I would offend somebody or the other. 152 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: See if they asked me how I felt about taxes, 153 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: their whole hope was how am I going to answer. 154 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: If I answer one way, that it's going to offend 155 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: the Roman government. If I answer in a different way, 156 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: then I might offend the people. Matthew twenty two, fifteen 157 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: through twenty two talks about this and the Pharisees coming 158 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: out with their their plans to trap me. They sent 159 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: their disciples to me. It came and they said, teacher, 160 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: we know you are a man of integrity, that you 161 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. 162 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: You aren't swayed by others because you pay no attention 163 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: to who they are. Listen to the way they they 164 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: sweet talk. The situation and try and set me up. 165 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: Tell us, then, verse seventeen, what is your opinion? Is 166 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: it right to pay the imperial tax to Caesar or not? 167 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: Verse eighteen goes on to say that I knew that 168 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: their intent was not pure. I knew that their intent 169 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: was trying to set me up. So I said, you hypocrites, 170 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: why are you trying to trap me? Show me the 171 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: coin you use for paying taxes? And they brought me 172 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: the coin, and then I asked them whose image is 173 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: this and whose inscription? Caesar? They replied. Then I said 174 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: to them, so give back to Caesar what is Caesar's 175 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: and give to God what is God's. When they heard this, 176 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: they were amazed, and they left me and they went away. 177 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: So with tax season here as it rolls around every year, 178 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: and I know that it can be upsetting because of 179 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: what you have to pay out, remember Matthew seventeen twenty 180 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: four through twenty seven. After Jesus and his disciples arrived 181 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: in Capernaum, the collectors of the two drachma temple tax 182 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: came to Peter and asked, doesn't your teach you pay 183 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: the temple tax? And you know what he replied, yes, 184 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: he does. Michael Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 185 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: How are you doing today? 186 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: I am well, how are you? 187 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: I'm wonderful. Thanks. I just got to ask you something 188 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: real quickly. For my question, Yes, everybody claims that your 189 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: middle name starts with an age, and I just need 190 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 3: you to clarify, what is your middle name that starts with. 191 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: An age, that you know what that comes from, that 192 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: actually comes from sort of a using it as a 193 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: curse word. People say, Jesus, Holy Christ is what is? 194 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: What is where it comes from? And so people would 195 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 2: shorten it. It's not my middle name. It's no specific title. 196 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: Of course, Jesus or Yeshua is my name, and Christ 197 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 2: is the title. It means mashiak, it's the Messiah. So 198 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: it's so it's not it's not a full name. It's 199 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: not on it's not on an ID or social Security 200 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: card or anything like that. And what's your question for me? 201 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? My question is to start, I believe the word 202 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: of God, and I specifically believe everything that's written and read. 203 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: And one thing that you'd have said in the Bible 204 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: is that if you ask anything in my name, it 205 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: shall be done for you. So my question, as along 206 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: the line, was a prayer and unanswered prayer. I've prayed 207 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: for healing and restoration of marriage and things like that, 208 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: things that aren't greedy that I believe they're holy things 209 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: to pray for, that it's nothing that sinful in nature. 210 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: And I believe without doubting, and I truly do. And 211 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: I'm wondering why some prayers just don't get answered. And 212 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: you know, I've been praying for healing my whole life. 213 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: Anytime I get an injury, I'll pray and believe that 214 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: it heels on its own. And I think that's just 215 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: the course of nature. But I believe in miracles too, 216 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: and I just I'm struggling understanding what the missing element 217 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: is that I's something I'm not understanding with that scripture, 218 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: with the Word of God that says you ask it 219 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: shall be done. I'm having a problem that's really understanding 220 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: why things aren't getting done. 221 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: When I asked, isn't it interesting that you quoted it 222 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: two different ways to me? The first way you gave 223 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: the long version and and the second way you edited 224 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: out almost the caveat or the secondary purpose or part 225 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: of the verse, which was to do it what. 226 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: In in my name? 227 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: Now? So what does that mean. You remember the old 228 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: movies where you know cops and robbers and they'd say 229 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: stop in the name of the law. You know, stop 230 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: in the name of the law. And it's not in 231 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: the power of law. It's really talking about the power 232 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: of and the authority given to them by the principalities 233 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: or what have you, of the local government in which 234 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: they are fighting crime for. So when saying that, they're 235 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: saying that there is an authority given to me. When 236 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: used in its proper context, that doesn't mean that a 237 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: cop can say give me all your money in the 238 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: name of the law, because that would be outside of 239 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: the name of the law. Correct. So there's something about 240 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: saying it in God's name that is about the power 241 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: and authority and the righteousness and the will of God, 242 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: not just saying I want this in Jesus name and 243 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: then getting it. There's more to it than that. So 244 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: if you put that in the context of that verse, 245 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: and then you think about the best analogy for a 246 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: situation like this is if you when you were a 247 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: young boy and maybe you're in the grocery store with 248 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: your folks and you're going down the sugar asle and 249 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: you know sugar cereal aisle, and you're going, I want this, 250 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: I want this, I want this. That's your want and 251 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: your request. The reason and why you give that to 252 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: your parents is for your parents to filter them and say, no, 253 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: this is what you should have. It's not for you 254 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: to convince your parents that you need sugar cereal. It's 255 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: a process that your parents use to teach you what's 256 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: good for you. So you said that these things are 257 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: good for you just because they don't have a simple 258 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: good evil connotation, Like you're not saying, please, Lord, make 259 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: my hand swift when I murder this person. So it's 260 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: not always going to be so cut and dry and 261 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: so easy. There are going to be times when you're 262 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: asking for something that isn't inherently bad, a proper relationship 263 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: or a healing or something like that that's not inherently 264 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: bad in any way, shape or form, but it's not 265 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: necessarily God's will or part of his plan. So your 266 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: prayer is to fine tune your wants, needs, and desires 267 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: to God's wants, needs, and desires, not for you to 268 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: get what you want. So it confuses people because sometimes 269 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: God wants you to have something, but not now, for 270 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: whatever reason, you're to learn patience and learn understanding, or 271 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: you have to go through more of a healing process, 272 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: whatever it might be. So keep in mind when it 273 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: says that when you pray in God's name and you 274 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: ask these things, they shall be given, that's essentially saying 275 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: that when you pray along the will of God, you're 276 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 2: going to get it. As we talked about earlier, going 277 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: the difficult way for the easy path, God's path is easy. 278 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 2: It's just it may not be what you want and 279 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: or you may not understand it, and it's in it's timing. 280 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 2: So it's not about you not getting it. It's about 281 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: God trying to continue for you to see, well, if 282 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 2: it didn't come to me quickly and easily, then there's 283 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 2: something else there that you're missing that God wants you 284 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: to know, whether it's patience or understanding or seeing another 285 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: facet of it that would make you see it differently. 286 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: But it's not that Wow, I want something good and 287 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: God doesn't want it for me. It's it's that God's 288 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 2: saying no. In order to get this good and utilize 289 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: it properly in a healthy way. I can see all things, 290 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: and I could see if you got it, now this 291 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: is how you would use it, or this is where 292 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: it would go, or this is how it would pan out. 293 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: That you have called me into your life and said 294 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: that you want my will to be above your will, 295 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: and I'm going to try and teach you that. You know, 296 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: the world may be different. That's why the world seems 297 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: to get everything. You see these people because they're not 298 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: giving their life to God. They're just saying, I want 299 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: this stuff, and you're saying, I only want the stuff 300 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: you want me to have, and I want it in 301 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 2: the time you want me to have it. I want 302 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: it the way you want me to have it. Totally 303 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: different context. You're almost giving You're not giving up your 304 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: free will. You still have it, but you're giving your 305 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: will over to God to try and align it with God's. 306 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: It's all much longer process than just I want this, okay. 307 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: So basically not putting God on my tideline. So the 308 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: prayers are okay, continue to pray and ask for things 309 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: that's like a restored marriage or absolutely something, but just 310 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: continue to believe no matter how long it takes that 311 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: you're saying there just. 312 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. The prayer of 313 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: Jabez was a book that was written about a prayer 314 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: in Scripture that was all about asking for things that 315 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: that most people would say, Oh, well, you're not supposed 316 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: to ask for that, you know, more land or more 317 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: uh wherewithal to do more things. That's that's not the 318 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: way God works. He doesn't have a problem with you 319 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: having things that can do better, or land that you 320 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: can use, or anything like that. It's God's not trying 321 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 2: to keep you down. It's a matter of being in 322 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 2: line with God. And I'll tell you something, Michael, the 323 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 2: majority of the time Christians have issues with prayers. I 324 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: assure you, it's not the subject of the prayer. It's 325 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: the timeline, and it's God saying, you know, because God 326 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 2: says in Scripture he wants you to reconcile in marriage, 327 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: he wants you to do these things are already there. 328 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 2: So usually it's the timing and something in the mechanics 329 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: of it that God sees that you don't that he says, 330 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 2: if done now, it won't work. So yeah, it's just 331 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: it can be a timing issue. But I don't want 332 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: you to think that the things you're praying for are 333 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: wrong because the way from what you've told me. It 334 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: sounds like you've you've thought it through and have been 335 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: praying about the things that are are most important of 336 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: you in your life. On another note, though, Michael, I 337 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: will say this that it's funny when things happen instantaneous 338 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: they're miracles. If they happen over a period of time, 339 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: it's nature. I'm not sure why people make that that 340 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 2: that distinction, But healing at all is fairly miraculous when 341 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: you think of what's taking place. A privation is happening 342 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: in your skin and your body in some way, the 343 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: absence of something that should be there, or cut a wound, 344 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: whatever it might be, and that the body in time 345 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: can reconstruct itself to a place of health and protection. 346 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: Now that's pretty amazing. I guess if a baby is born. 347 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 2: If you make love with your husband or wife and 348 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 2: the next day you have a baby, that's pretty miraculous. 349 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: But I'm not sure why nine months in between those 350 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: two points of interest make it less miraculous. So I 351 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: know that in this particular world currently, having things immediately 352 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: seems to be so wonderful. But in God's world, outside 353 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: of all this, there is no time. God isn't working 354 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: with a big clock going in his ear. So the 355 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: Father is doing these things because they're right, or not 356 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: doing them because they're not right, okay, just or unjust. 357 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: Period. 358 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: God's not wondering, Oh well, I hope I get this 359 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: done in time. That's what you are feeling. God just 360 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: wants to see it done right, and man just tends 361 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: to want to see it done right. Now there in 362 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: lies the battle between even the believer, the Christian, and God. 363 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: Even the Christian is tapping their foot in front of 364 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: the microwave, going, really, I have to wait three minutes 365 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: for a full meal. You probably remember when things were 366 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: heated up in foil in the oven. After it the 367 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: oven preheated for fifteen minutes. But it's perspective. So you 368 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 2: can't ask for the fast food God and expect the 369 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: quality to be there. And God's just not going to 370 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: sit there and watch the clock. God is going to 371 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: say what is needed, and the right way it is needed, 372 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: and for what purpose and all of those things, and 373 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 2: go through that. And at the end of that is 374 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: when God will grant those things in the fullness of time, 375 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: in God's perfection, so that they will actually suit you 376 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 2: and God's will. But I assure you when you ask 377 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 2: a god for things and you send up prayers, it 378 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: is more like that child asking for sugar cereal. The 379 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: purpose not for the child to get what they want, 380 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: but for the parent to be able to teach the 381 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: child what they need and what they should be asking for. Jack, 382 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. How can I help you? 383 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Jack? I got the alga question about God's salvation plan. 384 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 2: Okay, it's a big one, alrighty. 385 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm a Christian. My parents in the entire family are 386 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: not saved. So that's got sort of laid out on 387 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: my heart about you know, then saved in the lost 388 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: and reading the scripture, it shows you know, it says 389 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: unless you were born again, you're not into heaven, right, 390 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: and God's salvation plan. It seems to me that man 391 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: hasn't really accepted it. It this sounds kind of blasphemous, 392 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: and it sounds like it's it seems like it's it 393 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: just hasn't really worked. You know, the majority of human 394 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: beings man hasn't really accepted you, and they're you know, so, 395 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Jesus didn't say be human beings 396 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: and try your best, and you know you should be 397 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: with me, right, right, I mean you're so. I mean, 398 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: do you see a gray area in scriptures that will 399 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: allow other denominations and to enter into heaven or is 400 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: it really truly? I mean, I just see the majority 401 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: of man has not really accepted you. 402 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: Well, your perception might be that way, But imagine, imagine 403 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: this Jack with Christmas comes the tradition of the movie, 404 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: it's a wonderful life, right, What a lousy movie that 405 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: would be if you turned it off right in the middle, right, 406 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: it just you know, everything's horrible. George Bailey's heartbroken looking 407 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: at committing suicide. That's that's a real downer, right, But 408 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: if you finish the movie, you can see that the 409 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: plan works out and ties into a greater good and 410 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 2: something is more beautiful than if it just went out 411 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 2: it just went well all along. You see the unity 412 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 2: of people, of groups of people coming together for a 413 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 2: common good, of people reaching deep into their pockets to 414 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: help someone else, and it shows a bigger picture of 415 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 2: beauty than just if George Bailey had a good life 416 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: and he went off and traveled and everything was fine 417 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: and dandy. So likewise, you are only getting a glimpse 418 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: of the entire process. You're getting a part of the story. 419 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: And although it may not look that way to you, 420 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: is a plan and everybody, everybody gets an equal opportunity 421 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 2: to hear the purpose and the plan and to make 422 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: a decision for or against it. Is never based on ignorance, Jack. 423 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: It's not whether someone knows or doesn't know or anything. 424 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: It's about whether someone accepts or rejects. And God has 425 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: a plan for all those things. 426 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: And to. 427 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: Look for that middle ground or that gray area you 428 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: were talking about is very human to kind of say, oh, well, 429 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: it's looking you know. It's almost like if you can't 430 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,239 Speaker 2: beat them, join them. Well, if you know, if we 431 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: can't make more Christians, then why don't we just allow 432 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: you know, why doesn't God just allow anything any different 433 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 2: belief or anything focus of any kind. And and that's 434 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: that's really whittling God's plan down. I don't think it's blasphemous. 435 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: I think it's healthy that you ask the question. It's 436 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 2: just a matter of making it more about well, I 437 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: don't know if they're going to clear that bar. I 438 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: don't know they're going to clear that bar. Have faith 439 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: in people. It's not about a religion against religion. People 440 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: think that it's about looking and seeking the truth and 441 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 2: finding the truth. People make it about this or make 442 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: it about that, and scripture continues to bring people back 443 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 2: to the truth. God will give everyone, no matter what 444 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: faith or color, or even religion, they are on opportunity 445 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: to hear his truth, not sell them a religion, to 446 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: hear his truth, and they can accept it or reject it, 447 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: and upon that is the consequence or the victory 448 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: On demand.