1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: M m. 2 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: M m. 3 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: You are listening to Let's Garden with Scott Berlin. I'm 4 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 3: here with Mark Wessell from Gardens Alive, my good friend 5 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: and uh on the line. We have a good friend 6 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: as well, good friend slash nemesis. How do you describe Mary? 7 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: What would how would you describe Maryann Wilburn? 8 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: Mark, Well, she's very refined and refined kind contrast to you, Scott, 9 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: she's refined and genteel and uh, soft spoken and no abrasive. 10 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: We were once at a conference and introduced in. The 11 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: person was talking about us both together and said beauty 12 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: and the beast, and I did not. There was a 13 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: look confused which one was which, until everyone told me 14 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: it was me that was the beast. Really yeah, yeah, Marian, 15 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: how are you this morning? You're out in California. It's 16 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 3: five am your time, Thanks for being here. How you doing? 17 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm doing great, Mark. I'll give you that ten 18 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: bucks later. 19 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: Ten dollars is all it took. 20 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, I'm cheap and it's early boy. Yeah, 21 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: it's five am out here and I'm still looking at 22 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: the stars out on my parents' deck and a beautiful morning. 23 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: Good morning, gentlemen. 24 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: Good morning to you. And you're what the Sierra Nevada 25 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: foothills maybe out in the country were still very very dark. 26 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is very very dark. This guy's beautiful out here. 27 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: I mean there's still a little bit more light pollution 28 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: than there was when I was growing up. 29 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: Huh. 30 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 2: But it is extraordinarily beautiful. And we've had some incredible 31 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: weather this week and last week, just just that perfect 32 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: California weather that you and I experienced when we were 33 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: going down the state for California Spring Trials. 34 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember that that was going on so much 35 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: fun and yeah, yeah California weather. I mean, the minute 36 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: you get off the plane, you're just like, Ah, I've 37 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: be in California. It's so different here. 38 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: It's so nice, unless you get off the plane in Bakersfield. 39 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that matters a little bit where you land. Marianne, 40 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: you are the author of two books, Small Gardens, Big Dreams. 41 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: Did I get that ritor is it the other way? 42 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: The other way? Big Dreams, Small. 43 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 2: Gardens, Dreams, Small Garden, Yeah, yeah. 44 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: And the seductive almost r rated Tropical Plants and How 45 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 3: to Love Them. 46 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that is correct. 47 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: We'll have to talk about how that's laid out. It's 48 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: a it's a fun book, a great one, a good 49 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: tropical book that you know really hasn't been done in 50 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 3: a long time. You've written for magazines, several major magazines, 51 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 3: major newspapers, and you're a partner on the blog site 52 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: garden Rant with me and thank you several others. Yeah, 53 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: you own a or co owner, I guess of a 54 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: travel company. 55 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: No I am. I am the full yeah, sole owner, 56 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: but I partner with Andrea Gasper to create travel trips 57 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: to Europe to see fine gardens called hort cultural and 58 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: we are leaving in about a month month and a 59 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: half to go to Chelsea and to see some of 60 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: the gardens in the UK in the southeast. 61 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: That's a pretty good gig if you can get it, 62 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: I think. But it was a lot of hard work 63 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: for you putting that together. I know that. 64 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a lot of moving parts in that situation, 65 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: and it does take you away from your garden. And 66 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: I know you know this because you and Mark speak 67 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: a lot around the country and there's always that push 68 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: and pull of leaving your own garden, which that's why 69 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 2: we got into it, right Yeah, yeah. 70 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, You're gone for a few days and you come 71 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: back and you can't believe the state of things. You 72 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: do travel around and speak a lot. Last, but not least, 73 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: this is the last part of your introduction. You are 74 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: now a major podcaster on the scene with the viral 75 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: the Garden Mixer along with Leslie Harris. It's really fun. 76 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 3: You guys make a great team, always funny and great information. 77 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Scott. I mean, now that you're a 78 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: big shot radio radio host, you know, that's still king 79 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: to me. I'm still old school. It's pretty it's pretty 80 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: cool that that you're on the radio. That's amazing. Although 81 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: I don't envy. We get to we you know, we 82 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: record in the evening for the cocktail in hand, and 83 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: you're sort of going to be bleary eyed for the 84 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: for the remainder of your life here in the morning 85 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: on Saturdays. 86 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 3: On Saturdays. It's a big commitment, big responsibility. 87 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: Well, we just didn't go to bed, you know, cocktail 88 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: hour stretched into. 89 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: About about a half hour before the show. Maybe you 90 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: can tell you still got it, got it, we're handling it. Yeah, So, uh, 91 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: you know, I got you on the show here, but 92 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: we didn't really have a whole lot to talk about. 93 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: So why don't you take over and just tell us 94 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: what to talk about? 95 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: How? Tell me how are the tulips going at Cincinnati 96 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: at the zoo. I mean, you guys are pretty close 97 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: or going on? Is it happening. 98 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 3: It's happening. Yeah, we we're just just shy of peak actually, 99 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 3: which is a little early. Peak is usually April mid April, 100 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: so it looks like, you know, an early year this year. 101 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: Peak maybe in another week ten days, but right now 102 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: it's absolutely spectacular. I mean, one hundred thousand tulips is 103 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 3: just amazing to see. 104 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: It's a bit excessive, don't you, Thanks Scott, It's a 105 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: bit excessive. 106 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: It is excessive in the most beautiful possible way. You know, 107 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: there are times in places for excess. You know that. 108 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: I know that more is more, it turns out. 109 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, we just had Teresa Woodard last week with her 110 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: show The Maximalist or The Garden Maximist, and yep, the 111 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: whole theme of that is more is better. 112 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well you guys do it well there 113 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: and that beautiful period before quote peak, when those tulips 114 00:06:54,920 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: are just still clasping their pedals together and there's so 115 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: much potential that is such an exciting time. That's just 116 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: it's it's a sexy moment in the garden. 117 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: It absolutely is, and you know, the best time to 118 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: see it. It's easy this time of year because the light, 119 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: the sunlight is the sun is still low on the 120 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: horizon for us to day. But when those tulips are backlit, 121 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: there's not a whole lot better. It's almost like they 122 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: have their own energy. 123 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 2: And I understand you personally planted all one hundred thousand 124 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: of those tulips. That was amazing. That's just an amazing effort, a. 125 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: Bit of a bit of you know, graggeration, exaggeration. This 126 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: is my words. It's it's it's past my bedtime, way 127 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: past my bedtime. Yeah, I planted most of them. 128 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know how fragile Scott is noways in 129 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: his old. 130 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: Age, I used to play them all. Now I rely 131 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: on some help. Actually I don't. I just planted a few. 132 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: Half of our team is so good. They got out 133 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: there and they get the ground tilled, the tulips in, 134 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: you know, with help from the volunteers. It is a machine. 135 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: Is absolutely wonderful to watch, and I did. I just 136 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: watched it. You probably just get in the way I do. Yeah, 137 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: they're like Scott out of the way, and sometimes they don't 138 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: use the word Scott. There it's much much worse for you. 139 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. One of the coolest things about for 140 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: me about I grew up in California, but I have 141 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: been back in Virginia and mid Atlantic for the last 142 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: twenty some years is coming back home home home to 143 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: California around March, and I get to witness two springs 144 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: and sometimes the end of February, so you get to 145 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 2: have that tulip moment and because it's usually in containers 146 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: because they're so parched and dry and the ground in 147 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: this area and then in and then go back to 148 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 2: Virginia and see it there. 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Mark, Say hello, Hi, 198 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 3: Eric Scott, Hello, and even better on the line, I 199 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: have good friend, blogger, author, podcaster All of It, traveler, 200 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: World traveler Mary and Wilburn Marian. We were just talking 201 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 3: about you having two springs, and I know you mentioned 202 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 3: that you'll be driving south on a phone call to 203 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: me earlier this week to Texas and you're kind of 204 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 3: going to divert just a little bit around to see 205 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: the super bloom. 206 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: We are, I'm hoping to catch a little bit of it. 207 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: And you know, we could just go straight down the 208 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: state like you and I did down the Central Valley, 209 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: hitting stops, but we thought this we'd crossed the path 210 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: and we'll find one of them that's open, right because 211 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: it's still early, and then come back down the backside 212 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: of the mountains and head into the top side of 213 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: Death Valley and through the super bloom, which is usually 214 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: every sort of ten years is when the conditions are right. 215 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: Have you seen that mark? Have you come down and 216 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: seen that that beauty? 217 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've often work in the Central Valley and in 218 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: March April, so I've been fortunate enough a few times 219 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: like to see the Carreso Plains and Antelope Valley and 220 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: it is just spectacular acres and acres of color. It's 221 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: just amazing. 222 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 3: It's really gett Yeah, yeah, I do that, but it's 223 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 3: it's something everybody should see. I think it's it's absolutely spectacular. 224 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: And these are a lot of them are they're beautiful plants, 225 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: but they're just some of them are kind of bizarre 226 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: looking up close. It's a unique environment. 227 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: We probably should explain what the whole super bloom even 228 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: means because it just sort of feels like, well, wildflowers, right. 229 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Scott, no, I've last qualified here. 230 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: Well, in the West, a super bloom, well anywhere, you 231 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: just have to have the right conditions to create just 232 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: an incredible bloom. So in California it usually requires some 233 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: autumn winter rains to get things started, to get the 234 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: seedlings to pop, and then some moisture in the late 235 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: winter early spring to get everything to really flush. And 236 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: when that comes together, it's just a spectacular sight. 237 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: Those beautiful loopens, the orange poppies. I know, Scott and 238 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: I didn't actually technically see this the super bloom when 239 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: we were heading down the state for cats, but we 240 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: saw some, you know, some pretty spectacular displays. 241 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: Well that part of you know, in California. They get 242 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: that winter, especially the coastal area, they get that winter moisture. 243 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: So even on a you know, an average year, it's 244 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: very nice. 245 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: Do you remember, Marianne, we were driving through a pass. 246 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: It was it felt like we were way out in 247 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: the country. Uh, you know, in the mountains between the coasts. 248 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: It was one of the coastal mountain passes and we 249 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: came across that field with Doda Kathy and and Uh, 250 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: I had how were you saying it? It was funny. 251 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: We had this discussion about how to pronounce it. 252 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: I've just been I was just discussing this on on Instagram. 253 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: Actually do to Caathlon, do to kathy on right? And 254 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: I used to try and say I would always want 255 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: to say dodacahedron when I would see it, but hard deal. 256 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: Here's the deal. They've just moved dough to kathy on 257 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: into Premula. 258 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 6: Oh. 259 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: They they took all the fun out of it. So 260 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: I think the is in is now part of the 261 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: species name. These are shooting stars. They are blooming right 262 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: now at my parents' house. And I found a couple 263 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: and pressed them and was thinking, geez, I just finally 264 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: got it to roll off of my tongue. 265 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 3: That I was just telling you, you know, it's act 266 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: like a French person. It's du de caillon. And I 267 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: tried that multiple times and he struggled with it, but 268 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: eventually you got it. Now it's meaningless because like you say, 269 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: those taxonomists is jerk taxonomists And. 270 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: I'm yeah, And that's when invited to parties. 271 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 7: All the. 272 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: Taxonomist parties. 273 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: Shooting stars kind of easy to say. 274 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could get away with that. It's a great 275 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: native wildflowers. 276 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: Oh, it's a beauty. 277 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: And I was surprised to see it in California. I 278 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: don't know if it's the same species, but it looked 279 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: just like our Eastern. 280 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: I could not figure out what I had in terms 281 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: of the species. But I think we would bore all 282 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: your listeners trying to talk about that, you know, the 283 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: like the plant geeks you and you can be. 284 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: I know, Mark is, well, why start boring our listeners now? 285 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: And we've been doing it for almost two and a 286 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: half hours. Uh, you know what's happening back home in 287 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: Virginia in your. 288 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: Garden, Well, the spring of semarals are happening. And I 289 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: am I am a little sad that I'm missing, I'm 290 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: missing that emergence of the Virginia blue bell, in my opinion, 291 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 2: the best bluebell. 292 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: We talked about that earlier this morning. 293 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: Oh were you. That's such a cool emergence and there's 294 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: nothing like it, that purply blue leaves coming up through 295 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 2: all of the you know, all of the just duff 296 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 2: in the in the forest layer that there's Claytonia is 297 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: going to be coming out soon. Spring beauty and theirs 298 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: throniums are out, even though they won't bloom for me 299 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: because they just want to run and run and run. 300 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: And there's just so many beautiful, beautiful things, and may 301 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 2: apples are emerging, just starting to emerge. Michael keeps sending 302 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: me photos vicariously. Okay, No, somebody's got to hold down 303 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 2: the sort we all tag came because this menagerie that 304 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: we have requires somebody there at all times. 305 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. So you live the pioneering life out there in 306 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: your hollow, your Virginia hollow down in hollow yeap thirty 307 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 3: thirty minutes from DC or an hour from DC. But 308 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 3: in my world away. 309 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: Someday you'll come and visit me when the garden actually 310 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 2: looks good instead of me having to ply you with 311 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: prosecco to keep you slightly to stay while you walk 312 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: around in muddy march. 313 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: It's always better. I would prefer to see it in 314 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 3: muddy March, because then I can you know ras you 315 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 3: about how ugly everything is. That's the kind of relationship 316 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: here we have. Yeah, that's that's how we do do things. 317 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 7: Well. 318 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: The spring ephemerals are out, but also the daffodils obviously 319 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 2: or are out. And my goal is to just keep 320 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: adding daffodils so that it literally blows your eyeballs out 321 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: when you come down and look at the valley. And 322 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: that is my goal. That is my thirty year goal. 323 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: So I'm getting there slowly, so easy to buy a 324 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: few more or one hundred or two hundred more every 325 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 3: year and put them in and just create that bigger 326 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 3: display every you know, incrementally, so that, yes, you know, 327 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: in a few years you got something totally spectacular. When 328 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: we come back, Marian, I don't know what we're going 329 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 3: to talk about. Think about it and you take charge. 330 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: That would be best. I think you are listening to 331 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: Let's Garden with Scott Berline and Mark Wessel is here 332 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 3: with me. We'll talk with Mary Anne. 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That's right, you're I. 361 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: Should have I should have said I'm in an undisclosed location. Well, 362 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: I would have sounded more mysterious. 363 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it would make it harder for your enemies 364 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 3: to find you. Uh there in there where Maryland, Virginia 365 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: or West Virginia and Virginia all meet more or. 366 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: Less, right, Yeah, where they all come together, and it's 367 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: a very special mystical spot. 368 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: It really is. It's a beautiful area. It's been too 369 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: long since I've been there. You need to invite me back, 370 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: you know. I just disgrace you on national radio just 371 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: to get this invite. But you know, since I've been there, 372 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: the last time, you put in a pottagier garden or 373 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 3: big vegetable garden. You've put in deer fence, you put 374 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: in other beds. First of all, tell us about the garden. 375 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: Vegetable garden that you put in, because I've seen pictures 376 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 3: in it looks amazing. 377 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I put in raised beds, and I put in 378 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 2: really strong raised beds this time, because I've gone through 379 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 2: different iterations of. 380 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: Them, and these are you did, Michael did. 381 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 2: Michael did the work well, you know, to be fair, 382 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: Michael did this last iteration. But all of the past 383 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 2: iterations of this work have been completed by. 384 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 3: Me, which is why this time it was well built 385 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: and looks so good. But it does look study. 386 00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 2: Are you hearing those? 387 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 3: Here we go? Yeah, it could get ugly, very ugly, 388 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: but you've got a little greenhouse there. It all looks magical. Obviously. 389 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: I have a Northwest panel greenhouse, which I love because 390 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: it's made of cedar, and every time you walk into it, 391 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: it's just that beautiful smell. Even we've had it, oh gosh, 392 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: five years now six years, and it's it still has 393 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: that wonderful warmth and smell in it. And you know, 394 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: I don't use it as a greenhouse should be used. 395 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: I'm not using it to its full potential because I 396 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: don't heat it. But I use it like a big 397 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 2: cold frame. Basically. It means that I can I don't 398 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: have to use the little hoop houses I make over 399 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: my rais as I can stand up straight and I 400 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: can and extend that season on both sides. And when 401 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: you have a greenhouse, you don't have to use it 402 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: as a greenhouse. 403 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: That's true. You know, you can simply use it as 404 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: a mental health station, because there's nothing better. You know, 405 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 3: when it's been cold and gray, you know, and your 406 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 3: you've got cabin fever, and uh, you just go out 407 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: to your greenhouse. You open that door, it's already, you 408 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: get a blast of heat. You close the door behind you. 409 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: It's warm, it smells like earth, and you've got plants growing. 410 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: It's pure joy for at least a little while. 411 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: You know. Yankee Candle used to have a candle fragrance 412 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 2: called greenhouse and it was damn good. It was a 413 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: really good candle. They got rid of it. I guess 414 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: there were only like five people in the United States 415 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 2: who wanted one meeting one, but it smelled tremendous. And 416 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: you're right, it is a it is a mental health station. 417 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: Everybody that knew, everybody that knew the magic of that 418 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 3: that smell works in greenhouses, so they didn't need the candle. 419 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: That's right, That's totally right. You know, my vegetable garden 420 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: is an amazing thing in my house. But I would 421 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: far rather talk about the deer fence right. 422 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: Now because. 423 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: I can't. In fact, we can continue to talk about 424 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 2: this on the podcast. I can't stop talking about it. 425 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: I know I'm making a lot of people jealous, but 426 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: it has been so many years with deer damage in frust. 427 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: Anybody who who has a garden, who has any kind 428 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 2: of deer pressure, knows that feeling of coming out in 429 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: the morning and thinking, oh good that I can't wait 430 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 2: to see that X. And then you stand in front 431 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: of that X with your cup of coffee and see 432 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: it nibble down to the ground. All of the you 433 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: know on woody shrubs, especially all of those branches that 434 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: can't grow again, easily cut down a tree, you know, 435 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: knocked in half because of rutting, and it is soul destroying. 436 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: And I watched my parents deal with it here a 437 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: you know, years ago, when I was when I was 438 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: sort of twenty, and my mother would almost be in 439 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 2: tears about the sort of twenty I was twenty ish, 440 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: but I had no understanding of what it meant. To 441 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: dig a hole for two hours in the decomposed granite 442 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: of the California Foothills and put a golfer cage in 443 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: and then stick a special woody or a woody plant 444 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: or a tree in there, and then to come back 445 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 2: and find that they had destroyed it, and she could 446 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: almost be in tears over it. And I would think, well, 447 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 2: you know, just don't plant that plant, you know. Yeah, 448 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: I'm surprised you didn't slap me, you know. 449 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 3: And then you grew up and you planted those plants 450 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 3: over and over and over to see them eating, rubbed 451 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 3: all that. 452 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And one point that you bring up a good 453 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: point for me, exclusion of whatever your pest is is 454 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: kind of the first line and best defense. That way, 455 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: you're not well for deer. You're you know, you're always 456 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: spraying deer repellents on there. My community garden, I we 457 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: have Deer's not the problem. One of the problems is rabbits. 458 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: And I put up, you know, a foot and a 459 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: half chicken wire around the bottom, and it just totally 460 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: took care of that. But you have to be vigilant 461 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: and you know, check for they're always looking for a 462 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: new way in and they find them and then they 463 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: just keep using them. 464 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: You have nothing but time to think it through. Do 465 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: you have rabbit. 466 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: I have a possible rabbit problem. We're sort of I 467 00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: have two terriers who take We had ground so that 468 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: was our big issue. And when we moved into our place, 469 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: there was a warren of tunnels sort of like watershipped 470 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: down under our barn for groundhogs. And my terrier, Mungo, 471 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: was one year old and he was ready to go, 472 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: and that was sortid. We haven't had groundhogs since then, 473 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: and he kept the rabbits never even thought about moving 474 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: into my valley. I'd see him. I'd see him occasionally 475 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: at the top of the road, and it felt like 476 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: I was looking at Caddyshack, you know, like I'd see 477 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: a rabbit there looking at me, and I think, don't 478 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: go down in that valley. There's a terrier waiting for you. 479 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: But then he got like we all do, old and 480 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: blind and deaf, and they started moving in and so 481 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: we had a few and we've got a new puppy 482 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: and he's learning, so we'll see. You know, you you 483 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: fix one problem in the garden and then you move 484 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: on to the next one rightly but literally whack the mole. 485 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: Not that we're I'm advocating cruelty in any way. 486 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: Or whacking yeah, yeah, yeah, or whacking anything. 487 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, rabbits, rabbits could you know, could be 488 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: a problem. And I may be starting to invest in 489 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: in a lot of chicken wire, but right now we're 490 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: doing okay. The deer was we're such a big problem. 491 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: And when you're in the country with the deer, it's 492 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: it's a it's a weird problem. A lot of city goers, 493 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: especially in our suburbs, these big bedroom communities in the 494 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: DC area, they have a far worse deer problem than 495 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: I do because there's no way to hunt them. The 496 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: populations are out of control. There's a some of those 497 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: areas have one hundred deer per square mile, And so 498 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: you are assured of everything is deer damage every day. 499 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: And for me, it was that possibly it will be eaten. 500 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: Probably it will be eaten, but you never sure when, right, 501 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: and so it would to a false sense of confidence 502 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: and then and then it would be taken out. And yeah, 503 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: and why have a garden devoted to fragrance when you 504 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: got to spray deer spray all over it? 505 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's not a pleasant task that anybody really 506 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 3: wants to do. 507 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: There's some deer event in our yard a few years 508 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: ago and I just had enough, and you know, I 509 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: can't I don't have a weapon and I'm in the city, 510 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: so I bought a slingshot and it were it helped me. 511 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: I felt good shooting them in the hind quarters and 512 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: watch them run off, But they never never changed their behavior. 513 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: It's very frustrating. 514 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 6: Mary. 515 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: What do you have going on with your podcast coming up? 516 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, we're talking about a lot of things. Just 517 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: dropped an episode on the Spring Ofphemerals and we are 518 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: talking with Aaron Shannon. Actually, I think next week on 519 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: just the Spring Panic. Aaron Shannon the impatient gardener from Wisconsin, 520 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 2: and she is a load of fun and knows how 521 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: to mix a cocktail. Showed me how to make a dakerie. 522 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: I always assumed dacries were red, but it turns out 523 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: those are strawberry jakeries. That's going back to being twenty again, 524 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: and we're talking about all of the ways that you're 525 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: just sort of overwhelmed and how to prioritize the overwhelmed 526 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: because there's just so much that has to be done 527 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: at this time of year, so many things needing your attention. 528 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: It's like having, you know, five two year olds in 529 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: your house and trying to trying to cope with Okay, 530 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: who needs the most attention and where do I go first? 531 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 3: What do I do? 532 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: And then to realize that you can't do everything and 533 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: that some things are going to going to have to wait. 534 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: And when that happens, the sense of freedom of you 535 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: know what, it's okay, I'll do it. I'll do it 536 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: next year. I'll get to that job next year, or 537 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: I'll get to it in a couple of months. 538 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: Well, with that thought, we'll have you back again. It's okay, 539 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: we could couldn't get everything in today. We'll have you 540 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: back again to take care of more conversation coming up soon, 541 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 3: Marian's been a delight to have you on. 542 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 2: Thank you, Scott. It's really great to hear your guys' 543 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 2: voice and look forward to seeing you in person. 544 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 3: Yes, let's do that. So you are listening to Let's 545 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: garten with Scott Berlin, I'm here with Mark. 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It's one eight hundred get roto or 563 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 4: schedule online at rotoeruter dot com. 564 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 3: You are listening to Let's Garden Scott Brown. I'm here 565 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: with Mark Wessell in the studio and it's time as 566 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 3: you know for Gary Slovan. Welcome Gary good morning. How 567 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 3: are you, Scott? I am good. I just I read 568 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 3: this morning that this is National Windows Safe Week and 569 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 3: I thought, of you Windows Safety Week an odd one. Yeah, 570 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 3: I haven't really what did it say. I didn't read 571 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 3: any further. You know, there are some safety. 572 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 6: Issues, I know with blinds and things, and that became 573 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 6: a big issue probably about fifteen twenty years ago. 574 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 3: But well, be safe, yeah, be careful with you know what. 575 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 3: Clean them? Yeah, clean them? Do you do windows? Come on, 576 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: we have eleven giant windows on the first floor of 577 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 3: our house and I take that as a solid no. 578 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 3: Then well no, I actually do it, and it's frustrating too. 579 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 3: But I've got, you know, the big bucket they get 580 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 3: hot water and uh soap, one bucket with soap in 581 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 3: the other bucket with a vinegar mix, and go out 582 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: there and splash them with it and wipe wipe them off. Good. 583 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 3: It's squeegee, that's the word. And it's always an improvement. 584 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 3: But then you stand there and look at it and 585 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 3: you'll see the Yeah, you see that. Big windows are 586 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 3: tough window lottery. I'll hire someone to do it for 587 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 3: There you go, that's right, there you go. 588 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 6: So also, you know, especially with folks who have, you know, 589 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 6: replacement windows, maybe the vinyl windows, maybe the aluminum windows, 590 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 6: double hung windows, I guess, make sure those springs still work. Yes, yes, 591 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 6: because that that gets dangerous. 592 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 3: Right. Oh yeah, I'm going with your theme. Can you 593 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 3: tell you start thinking about it. There's all kinds of 594 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 3: dangers involved with windows. 595 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: Windows. These sound really dangerous. 596 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, and then just keep them lubricated, but not with 597 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 6: a highly refined oil. Maybe with a teflon or a 598 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 6: silicone that doesn't attract her. 599 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 3: That would be helpful. Also. And screens, Yeah. 600 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 6: Here's your trivia question of the day, Stratt. Do you 601 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 6: know how long a fiberglass screen usually lasts in a window? 602 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going to take a get and it's purely 603 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 3: a guess. Sure, uh ten. 604 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 6: Years, close, very close, twelve years. Yeah, so that's good. 605 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 6: I think a number of years ago you could have 606 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 6: asked me that and I said, I don't know when 607 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 6: it's bad because they kind of get threadbare, they kind 608 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 6: of turned white. 609 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and think of virus because they're replacement screens and 610 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 3: windows in the screen and that's probably seven or eight 611 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 3: years old, and they're getting to where you can kind of. 612 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 8: Like a. 613 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so you know a lot of times, you know, 614 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 6: there's different kinds of screens. There's aluminum screens. You know, 615 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 6: there's aluminum colored screens and black aluminum and black doesn't 616 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 6: have the glare, so maybe a little safety there. So yeah, 617 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 6: there's plenty of things we can do with our windows. 618 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, how about that? Yeah, what's on your agenda for 619 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 3: your show? 620 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 6: Oh man, I'll tell you what. First, there's gonna be 621 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 6: some pumps, because we're definitely going to get more spring rains. Yeah, 622 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 6: it's kind of looking like that's going to be on 623 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 6: the agenda after next week for us. So we're gonna 624 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 6: do some pumps. We have our friends in from Zolar pumps, 625 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 6: and then we're gonna talk about and it's been kind 626 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 6: of what we've been doing in our house, getting the 627 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 6: petty or the outdoor living area and even the landscaping 628 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 6: cleaned up, maybe a little trimming, maybe a little maulty, 629 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 6: and just kind of get in the spring. 630 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 3: Let's go. I got a power washer about five or 631 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 3: six years ago. Oh oh, and you can do some 632 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 3: real damage with it. Oh oh. There is not a 633 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 3: whole lot of things out there that is more fun. 634 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 3: That's uh, your your porch, your windows, your car, and 635 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 3: once you start, you can't. You can't. 636 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 6: It's like it's like spreading mault. Once you start, you 637 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 6: gotta keep going. You got to keep going, absolutely absolutely, 638 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 6: so yeah. 639 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 3: To the point where you're worn out because it will 640 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 3: beat you up. Oh yeah, yeah. And and you know, 641 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 3: six or seven hours later, you finally turned down. You 642 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 3: run out of gas, is what happens. And you go 643 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 3: in and you're like, oh, I heard all over. 644 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 6: I kind of had a day like that last week, 645 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 6: to be honest with you. I was getting a lot 646 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 6: of stuff done and it was just a gorgeous day, 647 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 6: and you mentally just didn't want to stop, right. And 648 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 6: of course, the more you go it wasn't just pressure washing. 649 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 6: It was also the more you find that needs your attention. So, yeah, 650 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 6: how's that a guest too? So we're going to talk 651 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 6: about all that getting ready for springtime. 652 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 3: It's spring. That sounds like a good show. I will 653 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 3: be tuning in. I think everybody else should be tuning in. 654 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 3: Very good. Yeah, we'll stay busy. I will you too, 655 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 3: all right, Gott, thank you so Mark, We've we've had fun. 656 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 3: We had Miriam Wilburn, She's always funelightful. Bill Fountain gave us. 657 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: Good Information's always a fountain of knowledge. 658 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 3: Fountain of knowledge. 659 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: Man, you learned something every time, very hard. It just 660 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: came to me just right out of the blue. 661 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 3: We talked about some fifty mile hour plants we were 662 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 3: hoping for callers knowing called in. We're gonna have to 663 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 3: work on that. 664 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: I think they just like listening to us so much. 665 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: Scott there. You don't want to interrupt the flow. 666 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 3: They think to themselves. I couldn't be more fascinating those 667 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 3: two guys. Yeah, if I interrupt, it'll just blow it, 668 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 3: blow it. Yeah. So you know, coming up we have 669 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 3: some really good shows too. We've got author, designer, educator 670 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 3: Kelly Norris coming in a few weeks. He is a 671 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 3: big deal in the is A cultural world. Yeah, He's 672 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 3: won a bunch of prizes at the Philadelphia What's It? 673 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 3: Flower Show? Philadelphia Flower Show, and a bunch of other 674 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 3: things too from different organizations. Last week we talked with 675 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 3: Teresa Woodard about the Gravel Garden book that's coming out 676 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 3: in June. Her co author and the gravel Gardening God, 677 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 3: Jeff Epping, will be here and I think that's in 678 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 3: April later in April. Still we also have Bree Arthur 679 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 3: talking about a big shot. She'll wake everybody up. She will. 680 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 3: She is fun. She is one of the most knowledgeable, 681 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 3: knowledgeable people I know, got a great background and now 682 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 3: you know, an influencer is a good word to describer 683 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 3: in the best sense of that term, right and in 684 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 3: a favorite of mine. Maybe not known as well as 685 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 3: some of the others, but Joseph Taikanovich. Ah, he's just coming. 686 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: He's a very knowledgeable Yeah, plants person. 687 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 3: Very good, very good. So look forward to all of that. 688 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 3: If you want to listen to past shows, they are 689 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 3: now readily available at your favorite podcast source. Uh, just 690 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 3: Google or look for Let's Garden with Scott Berlin. You'll 691 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 3: find it. Website is in progress, partner Dust. It's somewhere 692 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 3: in the in the works. It'll come along and we'll 693 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 3: have some fun stuff with that along with social media, 694 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 3: uh soon after that. So I want to thank you 695 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 3: and Mary Anne and Bill for being on the show today. 696 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me Scott. It's been a pleasure. Yeah, 697 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 1: we'll do it again any time I can hang out 698 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: with you. 699 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I thought of something I forgot about it. 700 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 7: What was it? 701 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Danny Thank you, Danny. Danny got in my ear. Yes, 702 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 3: Danny Gleason, our producer, a man who makes pushes all 703 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 3: the buttons, makes everything work, makes me sound as good 704 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 3: as possible. So thanks again for listening to Let's Guard 705 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,439 Speaker 3: with Scott Berlin. We'll see you here next week.