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And 19 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: touched on this a little bit yesterday, and I wanted 20 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: to bring it back here the twenty twenty three draft 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: class because Duke Tobin and I think justifiably so, has 22 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: taken a lot of criticism. The twenty twenty three draft 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: class looks better as this season has gone on. The 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: Bengals in twenty twenty three, with their first round selection, 25 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: took Miles Murphy with the twenty eighth pick in the 26 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: NFL Draft. Now we are already having the conversation about 27 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: Miles Murphy going into next year Austin, But as of 28 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: right now, Miles Murphy has a place on this defense. 29 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: Would you agree? Yes? In the second round of that 30 00:01:54,400 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: same draft, the Bengals took dj Turner. Dj Turner is 31 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: playing at an All Pro or a Pro Bowl level. 32 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: Pretty good selection. With their third round pick, they took 33 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: Jordan Battle. And this is kind of where I'm a 34 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: little dicey. Often, is Jordan Battle good? Would Jordan Battle 35 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: be better if he played next to a competent safety? 36 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: Or is Jordan Battle kind of he is who he 37 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: is at this point? Like, is Jordan Battle guy you're 38 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: in the future, investing in or or moving on from 39 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 2: as part of this defense. 40 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: I think Jordan Battle is fine, and I think Jordan 41 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: Battle has a place on this team next year. And 42 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: I think it's fair to say that when he has 43 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: a better player next to him, he plays better. Yeah, 44 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: much like we saw with Ted Kerris this year. He 45 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: had better guys on his left and right and he 46 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: played better and the offensive line played better. And go 47 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: back to his rookie season, Jordan Battle in twenty twenty three. 48 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 3: He started seven games and he had he was like 49 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: the highest rated PFF rookie defa in all of football, right, 50 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: and you're thinking, Okay, the Bengals have found something here. Well, 51 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, Von Bell was still pretty good 52 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: and it felt like that safety position was still something 53 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: that was a strength of the team. 54 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: And since then it just hasn't been. Later in that draft, 55 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: and I'll revisit the mid round selection they did take 56 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: dj Ivy in the seventh round. Not to talk to 57 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: him yesterday, he's got a spot next year. But the 58 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: picks for me that are interesting andre Yoshi Vash in 59 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: the sixth round and Chase Brown they got in the 60 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: fifth round. Now, one could make the case Austin to 61 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: try to get to the table early with DJ Turner 62 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: and get him inked up because I think he's that 63 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: good of a player. The other player in this is 64 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 2: Chase Brown, and it's why we kind of I brought 65 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: it up a little bit with Joe Daneman and I 66 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: wanted to get your take as well. I talked with 67 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: Mo about it yesterday. Chase Brown was a fifth round pick. 68 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: Bengals gave it an opportunity. He knows the system in Cincinnati. 69 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: He's playing around a very talented skill group, which gives 70 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: him more advantageous opportunities. In my opinion, the offensive line 71 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: is getting better and he is flourishing into a very 72 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: good running back in the National Football League. And again 73 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: you got him in the fifth round. Is Chase Brown 74 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: the type of player? And I feel like we see 75 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 2: this when we talk about the elite organizations in the NFL. 76 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: One of the constants I feel like we always talk 77 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: about is they draft well and then they sign those 78 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: draft picks and extend them and they don't always wait 79 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: until you have to re sign that draft pick. A 80 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: lot of these teams that are at the elite level, 81 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: when we talk about organizations in front offices Austin, they 82 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: get out ahead of these situations. And one would say, well, 83 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 2: why would Chase Brown sign early. Well for Chase Brown, 84 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: maybe take less money, but you have more security. Now, 85 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: running back is a dangerous position. You go into a 86 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: year and and kind of let things ride and you 87 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: go through an injury and you lose yourself a lot 88 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: of money. Is Chase Brown Austin the perfect example of 89 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: a player for this organization to not wait until the 90 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: deal is up, but to start having these conversations now, 91 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: get an extension done, get that one in your back pocket, 92 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: and then move on. Yeah. 93 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: I mean it seems to me like it's pretty simple, 94 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 3: like this is what it's supposed to look like. You 95 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: draft a player that can be a part of your team. 96 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: I think the last couple of weeks should be indicative 97 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: to both Chase Brown and the Bengals about what this 98 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 3: relationship can be and what the success can look like 99 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 3: for both sides here. I think Chase Brown perfectly fits 100 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: the role that Zach Taylor wants him to be in 101 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: in his offense. I think he's gotten better every year, 102 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: especially at pass protection, like he's done everything that they've 103 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: wanted him to do, and the scrimmage yards and anytime 104 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: you're in the same conversation as James Brooks and Bengals Street. 105 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: That's a really good thing. Sure, and so as far 106 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: as I'm concerned, Yeah, like this is exactly. 107 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: You don't have to wait, get it done early, and 108 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: it gives him security, it gives you security, and it's 109 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: another piece that you know and you don't have to 110 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: worry about. Okay, do we have to address running back 111 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: next year? When get it done? Make it easy, get 112 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: to the table now. It's the type of things again 113 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: that I think the upper tier organizations take care of. 114 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: Andre Yoshi vas is an interesting one as well. Fan favor, 115 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: a lot of people like him. I think he had 116 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: a really positive game last week against the Arizona Cardinals. 117 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: He's an interesting one going forward because you got him 118 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: in the sixth round, Austin, I know you have another 119 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: year with him, are you do you expect that there's 120 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: more that you can get from Yoshi vas or at 121 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: this point? Do you know what it is? And you 122 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: maybe got to start planning on if you want to 123 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 2: upgrade wide receiver three going forward. 124 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: I feel like we've reached the ceiling with him. I 125 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: hope that's not the case, but that's kind of what 126 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: it seems like to me. And solid but not play Yeah. 127 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: So for that reason, it's like I kind of feel 128 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 3: the same way about Yoshi that I feel about Barrett Carter, 129 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: which is we can't be at training camp talking about 130 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: how this guy is going to be a starter, like 131 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: you just can't. I haven't seen enough to feel like 132 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: he's gonna be that guy. And if he is, then 133 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: I would hope you've reinvested in Chase Brown, like I 134 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: do think those two things are connected. 135 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: And if. 136 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: I just don't look at it and be like, all right, 137 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: that dude wins enough to feel like he's a real 138 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: weapon on the on the offense. Yeah, and we've seen 139 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: it in the past. This team can draft wide receivers. 140 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: They're good at it, they're good at developing it, they're 141 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: good at finding those guys. So I'm sure they'll draft one. 142 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: I know they'll draft one again this year. Is it 143 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: going to be in the third round? Is it going 144 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: to be in the second round? Could it be like 145 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: we said earlier with Carnell Tate in the first And 146 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: if that's the case, then the writing is very clearly 147 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: on the wall for andre Yoswash and he becomes I think, 148 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: and it can't battle with Mitchell Tinsley yeah, but yeah, 149 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: I don't look at him and be like, all right, 150 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: this dude's a weapon and the Bengals should be doing 151 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: everything in their power to keep him on the field 152 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: next year. He just hasn't won enough. Let me ask 153 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: you another player just twenty twenty two. He's got the 154 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: club option for twenty twenty six, so the Bengals can 155 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: bring him back at twelve million. 156 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: Dax Hill. Dax Hill, Look, guy, say what you want to, 157 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: but he's been asked to do a ton. It's not 158 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: easy to switch positions in the NFL. He's done it twice, 159 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: He's battled injuries, he's had multiple coordinators, and I think 160 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: you could make the argument down the stretch, and again 161 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: it's hard because of the competition, but down the stretch, 162 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: I think we've seen the best play we've seen of 163 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: Dax Hill in his time here in Cincinnati. He's done 164 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: so as an outside corner opposite of DJ Turner, and 165 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: people have wondered is it safety, is it slot? Is 166 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: it outside? I think he's in his best position right now. 167 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: Can you start twenty twenty six and be confident in 168 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: where this defense needs to be if you have DJ 169 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: Turner and Daxhill as your two outside corners. Yeah, I 170 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: feel pretty good about that me too. Like as much 171 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: as this defense needs to do, I feel like you 172 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 2: feel pretty good about where they can be if those 173 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: are your two day one corners. 174 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, And keep in mind DA's coming off of a 175 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: knee injury. People say that it really takes a year 176 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: before you start to feel like yourself, and I know 177 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: we're kind of at that point now for Dax, and 178 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 3: I think he's performed a lot better. I've been especially 179 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: impressed his ability to bounce inside and outside and against 180 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: different types of players, and the way that he was 181 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: going up against Trade McBride and him and dj Ivy 182 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: working together. He's just an athlete. He's been a pretty 183 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: decent tackler. He's been aggressive in the run game, which 184 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 3: I think is really important for a corner. You don't 185 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: find those very much in today's NFL. So yeah, I 186 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: would feel fine about that. And the Bengals, of course, 187 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: already did pick up that fifth year option, so he's 188 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 3: going to be there next year, and I think that's 189 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: a good thing. 190 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: It's hard because you can't run it back with everybody right. 191 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: You have to make the dis decisions to move on 192 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: from this team, and and put them in the championship window. 193 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 2: As it relates to twenty twenty six free agents, let 194 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 2: me just run down the list. You tell me if 195 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: you're in or out on twenty twenty six of them 196 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: as a Bengal Trey Hendrickson out. According to spot track, 197 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: his market value is twenty five point five million dollars. 198 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'm out for I. 199 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 3: Think that doesn't matter. I don't think if his franchise 200 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: tag might be. 201 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: Twenty seven and a half on the open market, that's 202 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: what they're They think he could get Joseph Osai. His 203 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: market value has projected fifteen million dollars in or out 204 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: on Osai. I would be in okay on that. Ted Carris, Yeah, 205 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: six and a half million. Arry signed him to an extension, 206 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: didn't they? So there he's fine. Geno Stone, no out, 207 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco in, Noah fan in. Really, even with Eric 208 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: All coming back, I don't know what Eric All is 209 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: going to look like. Lucas Patrick in just because dev 210 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: dev is a major need. I think the projected market 211 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: value on spot track for Dalton Reisner is two point 212 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: three million dollars. Yeah, he'll probably make five in and 213 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: I'm good with that. What about Cam Taylor britt Out. 214 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: Guess what ten? Cam Taylor BRIT's market value is probably 215 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: pretty decent. Fifteen million? Yeah, no things, Nope, Taylor Hudson. 216 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: In trying to think any other names that may be 217 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: on this list that's essentially the major names. What about 218 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: some say in the list? You ready for this? Okay? 219 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: Brian Cook, it's played pretty well for Kansas City. I 220 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: would kick the tires there. Twenty six years old, Cam 221 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: Curl twenty seven years old, I would go I would 222 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: lean more. 223 00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: Cook, Okay. Kobe Bryant, I like Kobe too, twenty seven 224 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 3: years old. Sixty one point nine coverage grade. 225 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough. What was the coverage grade? Sixty one 226 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: point nine? Dad, I think that'd be an upgrade. Reid 227 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: Blankenship turning twenty seven. I'd be in on Reid. Okay. 228 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: I think I'm a fan of Reid Blankenship. 229 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: Kyle Duggar talked about him earlier this year. Ends up 230 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:25,479 Speaker 3: with Pittsburgh. 231 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 232 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: Jakwan Brisker, all right, Brisker, I mean these are the 233 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: type of guys that are kind of These are the 234 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: names the Bengals realm of players that they would go after. 235 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: Thirty seven year old Harrison Smith. 236 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: I mean, he played pretty pretty damn good on Christmas. 237 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: He did. If you can bring in Flacco, you might 238 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: as well bring in him. I'm in Brian Cook's market 239 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: value says fourteen million. I would. I would be good 240 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: with Brian Cook. I'd be open to that. I think 241 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: him and Battle could be good at the back end. 242 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: Our friend Ricky Uchino brought up a good point to me, 243 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 3: Ricky Ringside. I love rick because he usually does think 244 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: something outside the box. He said, what if the Bengals 245 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: trade for Jesse Bates? 246 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: Ooh, Atlanta kind of in no man's land. 247 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, now, the way they finished the season could impact that, 248 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: But I hadn't even considered that a possibility, And I 249 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: don't know if if it. 250 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: Had to be open to it. It just doesn't sound like 251 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: something they would ever do, right, It never sounds like 252 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: something they would do. 253 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: But like you talk about what Burrow said about getting creative, 254 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: about you know, being serious about fixing the defense, that's 255 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: something he'd. 256 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: Be twenty nine next year, still very much in the prime. 257 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: Good with me. 258 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: I would, Yeah, I would just wonder off the top 259 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 3: of my head, I don't know his numbers for his contract, 260 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: but I feel like you're getting towards the end of 261 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: it there. 262 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty six, he is due to make his cap 263 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: hits twenty four million. His base salary is thirteen Okay, 264 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: that's doable, and then twenty twenty nine you could avoid it, 265 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: or twenty twenty seven, right. 266 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: It's a void year. So I mean, I don't know 267 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: that's that's a fascinating one. 268 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: And that would be like, that would be the type 269 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: of move though that says we're not trying to develop, 270 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: We're trying to win right now. Hm, I mean there's 271 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: there would be no other type of move that would 272 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: signify that more than Jesse Bates. 273 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And now, I don't know that it would be 274 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: the most perfect fit coming in with Al Golden. And 275 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: I think Jesse Bates worked really well with Von Bell 276 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: and worked really well with lou An Aruma, and that's 277 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: why they were so successful. So there would certainly be 278 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: a learning curve for him coming back in. And I'm 279 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: not just putting this out there because he's a familiar name, 280 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: but it's like, oh, yeah, I mean, this is a 281 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: guy who's an affordable, effective safety. 282 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 283 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: That, you know, the Bengals have in the past been 284 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: fond of former players. I just wonder if that's you know, 285 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: that's something that when you think about trying to be 286 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: creative this offseason, looking at all your options, I would 287 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: be open to that. 288 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: It's crazy. I'm looking at the Baits deal with the Falcons. 289 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: He was guaranteed thirty six million at signing in twenty 290 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: twenty three. His base salary was just a million dollars. 291 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: It was one million, seven hundred and fifty twenty twenty four, 292 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: one point five million this year. It'll jump up to 293 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: thirteen million next year. I mean, that is it. They 294 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: did a lot of creative ways to get that deal 295 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: done for Jesse Bates. 296 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: I think the Bengals have spent a little more than 297 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: that trying to replace them. Trying to replace them, Yep, yeah, 298 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: shout out to Rick Uchino man. Now, the Bengals are 299 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: are right often when it comes to cutting ties with guys, 300 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: but the ones that they miss on are big one. 301 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: It's brutal. 302 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: Yep, Zeitler, Witworthitler, Jesse Bates, and hell. Even waiting on 303 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: Chase and Higgins cost them a ton of. 304 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: Money, and that's why I think it even says more 305 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: to get out in front of Chase Brown. I agree. 306 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: Let's take a break, switch gears. Let's talk about the 307 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: Bearcats and what they did last night against Lipscomb. Summer saying, Austin, 308 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: when you look back on this team in March and 309 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: you're figuring, okay, are they five seed to seven seed? 310 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: Where are they at? Folks will say that night against 311 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: Lipscomb changed everything. We'll talk about the win. You'll hear 312 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: from West Miller next on the Home of the Bengals 313 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 314 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: From locker room whispers to stadium roars, He's got it 315 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: all Moeger today at three pm on ESPN fifteen thirty. 316 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,359 Speaker 2: Ah yes, a little angel Ridge ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 317 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: Sports Station. Thanks to our friends at Penn Station and 318 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: thank you for listening. We'll get to the Bearcats in 319 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: just one moment. Another phone call before we do so 320 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: from Rob. Hey, Rob, I'm doing great, guys. 321 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 4: How are you doing today? 322 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 5: Good? 323 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: How are you? 324 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 4: Just want to wish you guys happy New Year and 325 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: keep up the good work. I enjoyed listening to you guys. 326 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: When I can. Thanks. 327 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: I totally agree with what you guys said about, you know, 328 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: Bengals showing Joe Burrah. We're all in a couple of 329 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 4: ideas for that too. On top of the Jesse Bates. 330 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 4: When you guys say I'm done with that, I like 331 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 4: Cook too. If he can't get baits. DJ Reid is 332 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 4: a free agent. He's not happy up in Detroit. From 333 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 4: what I understand, he had a cap hit for eleven million. 334 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 4: I think last year he might get getting for like 335 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 4: eight on a one year deal or something like that. 336 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 4: He graded at seventy overall PFF grade tier Tart's a 337 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 4: free agent, but I thought we had him come in, 338 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 4: and I don't think he rodes well for us as 339 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 4: far as his character. But he's there. And I just 340 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 4: Jalen Phillips for the Eagles. I know he's a linebacker 341 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: at about two hundred and sixty pounds. He plays more 342 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 4: defensive him, but but our ends play linebacker anyway, so 343 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 4: he's a possibility as as far as a two way player. Well, 344 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: I just wanted you guys give me your opinion on them. Guys. 345 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob, I appreciate the phone call. Thank you. It's 346 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: this is the hardest part, Austin. And this is like 347 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: when this is when you go to the scouting departments 348 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: because there are so many names like Rob just mentioned 349 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: that are out there, of guys that maybe you head 350 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 2: in for a visit before, or maybe you have it, 351 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 2: or maybe you've had your eyes on for a year 352 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: or two and now they're going to be a free 353 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: agent and now it makes sense. It's just it's why 354 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: the scouting department is so crucial, because you have to 355 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: identify not only the players, but how they fit in 356 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: the system that's being run here. Yeah, not all good 357 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: players are good fits in every system. 358 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt. And you know, Jalen Phillips, that's 359 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 3: an interesting name. I know Philly fans are pushing hard 360 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 3: for the Eagles to extend him. He's having a really 361 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 3: good season and I think he'll make a pretty good 362 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: amount of money. I wonder if the Bengals be willing 363 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: to pay that. Khalia Davis from San Francisco, twenty seven 364 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 3: years old is having a solid season. Devonte Wyatt from 365 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 3: Green Bay is a guy who's gonna command a little 366 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: bit of money that I would be interested in. But honestly, 367 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: the especially the interior of the defensive line. It is 368 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: a very very thin free agent class, Like there's just 369 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 3: not a lot of guys out there, which means that 370 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: the Bengals are probably gonna have to roll with who 371 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 3: they have and invest in a defensive tackle or an 372 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 3: interior defensive lineman at some point in the draft. One 373 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 3: of the names that gets brought up is Peter Woods 374 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 3: from Clemson as someone that you might be wanting to 375 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 3: take a look at. But I think because of how 376 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: thin that position group is in free agency and guys 377 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: some of those names I mentioned, they are probably going 378 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: to be extended with their teams. Then it becomes even thinner, 379 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: and it makes me wonder if the Bengals will have 380 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 3: to maybe double up on that position similar to what 381 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: they did at linebacker last year. 382 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I look at as a D line goes a 383 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: lot of the edge rushers that are free a agents. 384 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 2: They're getting up there in age. Khalil Max almost thirty five, 385 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: Asam Reddick is simply the same age as Trey Hendrickson. 386 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: Joey Bosa is over thirty, Leonard Floyd, Denico Autry. You 387 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: haven't done the list of free agents. Dante Fowler Junior 388 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: Kyle van Noyd. These guys are all thirty or above. 389 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 2: So again it's does that player one fit from a 390 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: talent standpoint? And two does he fit the scheme that 391 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: Al Golden wants to run. That's why it's for me, 392 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: it's always talking about does the player and their skill 393 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: set match the scheme that you're trying to run. It's 394 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: more than just is that player good. There's a lot 395 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 2: of good players in the NFL, but some of those 396 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: players just don't match what the team should or wants 397 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: to be running. Switch gears. Very briefly, here what happened 398 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: last night at Fifth Third Arena. I know for many 399 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: it is a meaningless non conference win, and for the 400 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 2: Bearcats they've just not had enough of those types of wins. 401 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: I get it. I get that there is frustration, and 402 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: to be honest, rightfully, so this team has vastly underperformed 403 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: in their non conference and I even think this, like 404 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: when I look at the Bearcats Austin, I think of, Okay, 405 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: you lose to at the time number six Louisville, even 406 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 2: if you would have lost to Georgia Clemson, and I'll 407 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: even thow Xavier in on the road had you not 408 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 2: had the Eastern Michigan loss, you could just say, well, 409 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: this team just wasn't good on the road. Clemson and 410 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: Georgia are good basketball teams. Those are tournament teams. Louisvill's 411 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: a tournament team. You could have talked people into it. 412 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: The Eastern Michigan loss is so so brutal on so 413 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: many levels because you look back and it's not like 414 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan should be a contender in the MAC. Eastern 415 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: Michigan at this point of the season is now six 416 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 2: and seven. They have lost three in a row to Purdue, 417 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: Fort Wayne, Akron and right now State. They're just not 418 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: a good basketball team, and they came into fifth thirty 419 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: Arena and beat UC. I just don't know how you 420 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: get over that loss going forward if you're the Cincinnati Bearcats. 421 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: But last night, I'll give it to him, was a 422 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 2: positive step forward and it came with how the game started. 423 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: Kerk Crisa, Sewna Bive were not in the starting lineup 424 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 2: last night for Wes Miller, Boba Miller, Mustapha Chom Gisel, James, 425 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: Dade Thomas, and Sincere Harris were your starters last night 426 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bearcats. Now Kerk Cresa came off the 427 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: bench and made five out of eight threes for fifteen points. 428 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: That's good production. They got last night eleven points and 429 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: twenty one rebounds to go along with seven assists from 430 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: Boba Miller. Don't care who you're playing against, that's filling 431 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: it up eleven, twenty one and seven. Mustapha Chom posted 432 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: eighteen points. Gisel James added sixty. Day Day had eight, 433 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: Sincere Harris had seven. It added up to eighty nine 434 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bearcats and they held a Lipscomb team 435 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: to just sixty two points. And I know that these 436 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 2: types of things don't matter much, but if you go 437 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 2: back to just a week ago, Lipscomb went to Cameron 438 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: Indoor Stadium, they trailed by three at halftime, forty eight 439 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: to forty five, and they actually led that game in 440 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: the second half before things got away late. So it 441 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: is a Lipscomb team that can score a lot of points. 442 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: It's a Listcom team that hasn't win over Marshall earlier 443 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: this season. But the Bearcats took care of business last 444 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: night in their final tune up before Big Twelve play 445 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: gets underway on Saturday. Before we talk about Saturday. Here's 446 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: what Wes Miller had to say after yesterday's win. 447 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 5: Well, as I told the guys in the locker room, 448 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 5: you know, statistically, I think there's one statistic that you 449 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 5: can be selfish about and it's still good for the team, 450 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 5: and that's rebounding. And so twenty one rebounds from Bob 451 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 5: Miller that really impresses me. And what I'd like is 452 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 5: for other guys to compete with them a little bit. 453 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 5: I said at halftime he had thirteen of them, and 454 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 5: I told the guys, I said, hell, guys, thirteen's pretty 455 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 5: damn good. But you guys can go compete with them 456 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 5: a little bit. We'd like some other guys to rebound too. 457 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 5: But twenty one rebounds that impressed me. I care a 458 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 5: lot about rebounding, and he gets twenty one of them. 459 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 5: I don't care who you're playing in Division one basketball. 460 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 5: That's impressive. 461 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 2: He had eleven threes. 462 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 6: It's the I think the fourth or fifth game you've 463 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 6: been over ten the ball movement. 464 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: Was it better than any other game? Was it better 465 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: you thought? It? Was it better tonight than you know? 466 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 5: I really I'll go watch the tape. Twenty one assist 467 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 5: I think that's good. We've had high assist numbers. I 468 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 5: thought we were stagnant at times offensively in the first half. 469 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 5: On possessions. I'm not saying every possession, and I thought 470 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 5: we moved it better in the second half. I still 471 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 5: think we have to have better body movement. Sometimes we 472 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 5: can just stall and we don't do that in practice, 473 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 5: but when the lights come on, sometimes we do it. 474 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 5: But I think there were some possessions that you can 475 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 5: show that are really good, and then I think there's 476 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 5: some that need improvement. 477 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 6: Lineup changes tonight, did you feel like the secret seeing 478 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 6: ability to get the lineups you wanted out there and 479 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 6: putting guys in the right position was a little bit 480 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 6: easier with getting Jizzle And since it's here been bucking 481 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 6: lit up. 482 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 483 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 5: I think Jizzle just allows you to do some different 484 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 5: things lineup wise, that different combinations because he's got size 485 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 5: and like physicality, so he can defend multiple positions. So 486 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 5: some combinations that we tried early that maybe just weren't 487 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 5: working for whatever reason, Like some of those combinations work 488 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 5: a little better on his on the floor because he 489 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 5: just gives you more. It's like Baba, Like Baba makes 490 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 5: every lineup work a little better because of his versatility. 491 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 5: Jizzle has some of that effect as well. But I mean, 492 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 5: they asked me on the radio, so I'll say the 493 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 5: same thing that you guys said. What kind of went 494 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 5: into the change of the starting lineup? And sometimes things 495 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 5: are complicated and sometimes they're simple, and this one was simple. 496 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 5: We hit a twenty eight point deficit late in the 497 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 5: first half, and that group erased for the next twenty 498 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 5: four minutes with the help of some of their teammates. 499 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 5: But that group was the core group that erased a 500 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 5: twenty eight deficit to one and gave us a chance 501 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 5: to win the game. To me, we're just going to 502 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 5: reward that kind of edge, that kind of competitive spirit, 503 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 5: and we got to play like that for forty minutes. 504 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 5: So that's why we started that group. But certainly, is 505 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 5: Gizls starting to incorporate himself back into the team from 506 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 5: a playing standpoint, it's going to change some lineup stuff. 507 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: All right. So I wanted to stop it there because 508 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: that's the answer and why the lineup changed. It's very 509 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: simply put. That lineup played harder against Clemson. That lineup 510 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: got them back in the game. That lineup should be rewarded, 511 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: and I agree with that. Kurk Creesa was not great. 512 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 2: Seana Bive has been very disappointing. If I was there 513 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 2: last night, I watched the body language. The body language 514 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: was alarming from Seanabiv who last night just finished with 515 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 2: two points two free throws very late in that game. 516 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: It's Houston on Saturday. If you want to ever change 517 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: the narrative, if you're Wes Miller, it's a game you 518 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: gotta win. You haven't beat Kelvin Samson since you've been here. 519 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: It's a top ten Houston team. It's a team that 520 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: could go right back to the national title game. They 521 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: come into your building. You've had a terrible non conference slate. 522 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: If you want to wipe the slate clean, if you 523 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 2: want to change the perception on this team, you don't 524 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 2: just compete on Saturday. You go find a way to 525 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: upset Houston. I know that's a tall task, but that's 526 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: what it is. The non conference has been so bad. 527 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 2: If you want to be taken out all seriously, if 528 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: you want to build any momentum and confidence here in 529 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 2: the city, you got to find a way to beat 530 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: Houston on Saturday. That's as simple as it is. We'll 531 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: take a break, we'll come back. We'll try to grab 532 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: one more phone call before we get to Mogger on 533 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back since he 534 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Mulager will 535 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: join us for quick hits in just a few moments. 536 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: We do have time for one more phone call today. 537 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 2: Let's go to Dayton and talk to Scott. What's up Scott? 538 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 7: Hey, guys, So I've heard a lot of handwringing about the. 539 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 4: Team and the did covin and you just. 540 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 7: Read off a draft class that appeared to be pretty good, right, 541 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 7: and this past draft class I think also is pretty good. 542 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 7: So why do we joke? 543 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: Why do we laugh? 544 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 7: Why do we consider comedy? When Zach Taylor says we 545 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 7: hit on all six of our picks this year. 546 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's too early to say any thing 547 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: about Shamar Stewart. He's got one sack on the year, 548 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: He's been heard for much of the year. I don't 549 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: think the play of Demetrius Knight or Barrett Carter has 550 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: been at anywhere near NFL competitive level at the linebacker position. Yeah, 551 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: what's the question. 552 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly why you laugh, is because they're rookies. 553 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 3: It's way too early to tell. 554 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 7: Well is her in the starting lineup? 555 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 8: You know? 556 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 7: I think once you're in the starting lineup. 557 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: That starting or performing. Because they haven't performed. 558 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 7: Well enough, well okay, and there. 559 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: Was a point where they were great dead last in 560 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: linebackers in the National Football League. That matters, I know. 561 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 7: And we're willing to just throw them away because they 562 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 7: didn't perform their first year. 563 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: I don't think it's throwing away. I think it's an 564 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: understanding that there is an opportunity and a an urgency 565 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: that you have to win now, and you can't just 566 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: slowly pull guys along. You've got to compete for a championshi, 567 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: And I don't think you can with those guys. Yeah. 568 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 3: My thought process is there hasn't been enough development from 569 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 3: game one to Game seventeen that makes you feel like, Okay, 570 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: we feel comfortable with these guys moving forward, so you 571 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: may have to address that position in the office. 572 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone is saying pull the plug on 573 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart. I think people are saying we need to 574 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: see more. We've seen a season of Barrett Carter, Demetrius Knight. 575 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,239 Speaker 2: I get all of that. 576 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 7: So perhaps they missed on Carter, maybe he isn't with him, 577 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 7: maybe they. 578 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: Do cut him in the offseason or whatever. 579 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 7: But the rest of the class has been pretty solid. 580 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 3: I mean, Stewart's barely played. He's played seven games night. 581 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: I think is not that great, fair Child, it feels 582 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: like is a big time hit. Rivers ended up getting 583 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 3: benched because he was so bad, and TODs Brooks really 584 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: hasn't gotten any opportunities. So are they as bad as 585 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 3: last year's class? No, probably not altogether at this point. 586 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't I wouldn't be like this is six 587 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: hits by any stretch. 588 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, okay, fair enough. 589 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Scott, I appreciate the phone call. It's it's just 590 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: different now, like it's it's not a developmental team. You 591 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: have to win now, Yeah, and you've got to get 592 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: contributors to do so. 593 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 3: And while I still think it's way too early to make, 594 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 3: you know, solidify your opinion on this class. The issue 595 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 3: has always been the twenty three or the twenty two, 596 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 3: twenty three, and twenty four classes. It looks now like 597 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: Murphy is in Turner and those guys as you mentioned earlier. Okay, 598 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 3: that's finally maybe those guys have finally turned a corner 599 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: last year's class. Jermaine Burton's cut, Chris Jenkins has done nothing, 600 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: McKinley Jackson requested a trade. Eric Hall's been hurt. Josh 601 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 3: Newton can't get on the field, Dana McLaughlin's not here, 602 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: Cedric Johnson, Okay, maybe Dejon Anthony can't get on the field. 603 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 3: Matt Lee's been hurt. Amarius mims Is. I mean, if 604 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 3: you're going one for eight, that's not very good. 605 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: Right in a scenario where you've got a hit on picks, Yeah, 606 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: you can't miss anymore. We'll take a break, mulwager to 607 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: close out this edition of Cinty three sixty and welcome 608 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: us into The Mowager Show. 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Five one three eight 645 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 10: four seven zero zero nineteen five one three eight four 646 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 10: seven zero zero nineteen five one three eight four seven 647 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 10: zero zero nineteen the world. 648 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: Now it's time for quick hits on Tony Pikes. 649 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 4: Since he. 650 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 2: Was looking for MO. I don't think we have MO yet. 651 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll get him by the end of quick hits. 652 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: Maybe not. He is getting himself set up right now 653 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: at Oakley Greens. Will he be broadcasting from this afternoon? 654 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to, you know, totally destroy the vibe here. 655 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 3: But we didn't talk about this. We talked about a 656 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 3: little bit the h Greg Biffel thing last week Yeah, 657 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 3: did you see the terrible news about Denny Hamlin his family. 658 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 3: So apparently Denny Hamlin's parents' house caught on fire and 659 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 3: his dad was killed. Oh my good house fire over 660 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: the weekend, and I believe it's in North Carolina and 661 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 3: so his it's according to TMZ, so taken with a 662 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 3: grain of salt. But TMZ said that Denny Hamlin's dad 663 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 3: passed away and at least one other person was injured. 664 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 3: I assume that would be his mom. Yeah, I see 665 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 3: it on This is a lot of different outlets right 666 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 3: now week for NASCAR fans and obviously for Denny Hamlin. 667 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 3: They're in the middle of that suit right now, twenty 668 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: three eleven, racing against NASCAR and all that. 669 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 2: So wild. Yeah, it said that at the time Dennis Hamlin, 670 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: his dad and Mary Lou Hamlin, his mom, both suffered 671 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 2: catastrophic injuries while trying to escape, and his father died 672 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: at the Caramont Regional Medical Center. Crazy. That is unfortunate. 673 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 10: Man. 674 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 2: That is very very sad news around the NASCAR world 675 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: and Denny Hamlin. 676 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 3: Also starting to get more details, according to TMZ of 677 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 3: the Stefan Diggs allegations. TMZ says that Stefan Digs former 678 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 3: shit claims that he slapped and choked her over a 679 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 3: salary dispute. So it was felony, strangulation and assault charges 680 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 3: that were brought against Stefan Diggs. Earlier today, TMZ reports 681 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 3: that it was his chef over a salary dispute that led. 682 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 2: To all this unbelievable stuff. Man. 683 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 3: Then, as we mentioned earlier, Trayvon Diggs, his brother, was 684 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 3: waived by the Dallas Cowboys and put on waivers after 685 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 3: an injury riddled season. Did you see how he got 686 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 3: a concussion? No, he was installing a mount for a television, 687 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 3: a massive television, so big that the mount came from 688 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 3: the ceiling and the pole fell on his head. 689 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. It's a lot going on. Speaking of a lot 690 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: going on, the Cincinnati Bearcats have departed for Memphis. Uh oh, 691 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,479 Speaker 2: they've departed with one less player on the roster. Evan 692 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: Pryor has departed from the very Evin Pryor, which is 693 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: weird because I know he's been practicing leading up to 694 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: the bowl game. Evan Pryor announced earlier today that he 695 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 2: is entering the transfer portal. In the last two years, 696 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 2: Evan Pryor has totaled over twelve hundred total yards and 697 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 2: eleven touchdowns for the Cincinnati Bearcats. They are already without 698 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: Tylie Walker Evan Pryor. To my knowledge, Austin was viewed 699 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: as one of those foundational pieces that they were hoping 700 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 2: to build around for next year, this year, and last year. 701 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 4: Now. 702 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 2: He split time last year with Corey Kiner, split time 703 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 2: this year with Tylie Walker missed a couple games due 704 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 2: on an ankle injury. In twenty twenty four. He avered 705 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 2: seven and a half yards per carry twenty twenty five, 706 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 2: six point nine yards per carry. Every time this guy 707 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: touched the ball, he gained nearly seven yards. It's pretty good. 708 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 2: That is a monumental loss, not only going into the 709 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 2: Liberty Bowl, but going into next year as well for 710 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bearcats, already without Brendan Sowersby, already without major 711 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 2: contributors on the defensive side of the ball, going up 712 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 2: against last time. I checked a team in the Naval 713 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,959 Speaker 2: Academy that rushes the ball for two hundred and eighty 714 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 2: nine yards per game. That is number one in all 715 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: of college football. How fast? What do you want to 716 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 2: set the over under on from a time standpoint for 717 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 2: that game on Friday, UC runs it for one hundred 718 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 2: and seventy nine yards per game and the Midshipman run 719 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: it for two hundred and eighty nine yards per game. 720 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 2: What time is kickoff? Four thirty? Okay? How long has 721 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 2: that one lasting? 722 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 3: Based off I'm sure they got to get the commercials in. 723 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 3: What's interesting is the bowl game, so it'll probably be 724 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 3: done around eight forty five. What's interesting is the Bearcats 725 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 3: run the ball on average for five point nine yards 726 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 3: per carry, Navy five. 727 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 2: Point eight, So there are gonna be a lot of touchdowns, 728 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 2: probably a lot of five six seven yard games and 729 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 2: chewing up some clock. 730 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 3: Five point nine yards per carry, that's a that's a touchdown. Yeah, 731 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 3: if you just hand it off every time, that's true. 732 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 3: You better even get into third downs. 733 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 2: I mean three yards every play is a touchdown. If 734 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 2: that's the case, shout out to Coastal Carolina. They're up 735 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 2: early on Louisiana Tech and the Radiance Technologies Independence Bowl 736 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: as well. 737 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 3: From what I've been told, I have this game on. 738 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 3: I haven't been paying that close attention, but apparently it's 739 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 3: the worst game of football ever played. Really, Yeah, a 740 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 3: lot of penalties, a lot of mistakes, a lot of 741 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 3: dudes that don't normally play that are playing. Sean McVay 742 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 3: said that even though they've clinched their playoff spot, the 743 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 3: the starters are playing for the Rams next week. 744 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 2: Coastal Carolina has eight penalties already in the and that 745 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 2: game just started the second quarter. Yeah, exactly. Louisiana Tech 746 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 2: has three. Should we talk to Moegar for two minutes? 747 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 2: Do you want to? We can, Let's do it. Let's 748 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: talk to Mo. 749 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 8: Hi, Mo fellas, how we doing, Mo? 750 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 2: How are you? 751 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 8: I'm uh, I'm well. 752 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 7: No. 753 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 8: No Evan Prior for the Bowl game? 754 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 2: No, Evin Prior. I just bought my Ovan Prior. J 755 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 2: I thought Evan Prior was going to be a piece 756 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 2: to build around next year. Why, I don't know. You 757 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 2: ran a for like six yards of carry? 758 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 8: Yeah? I love Evan Pryor. 759 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 10: Why would anybody think that any player is a player 760 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 10: to build around next year? 761 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 2: For? It's also true, I thought maybe at least for Friday. 762 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 8: Oh that'd be nice. 763 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: Uh, Mo, very briefly, what do you have coming up today? 764 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 2: In the Mowager Show at Oakley Greens. 765 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 10: Joe Burrow isn't the only person who should be buying 766 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 10: gifts for the Bengals offensive line. 767 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 8: I want to talk about JJ Bleda today. 768 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 2: Wow, what do you say? 769 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 10: Let's go back and look at opening days starting lineups 770 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 10: each of the last three years. 771 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 4: Uh. 772 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 10: Where Paul Danner Junior is going to be here, Sean 773 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 10: sayat Stats and Scheme newsletter. 774 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 8: We're going to talk sports in the law and so 775 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 8: much more here at Oakley Greens. Yeah, between three and six. 776 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 2: Well, Mo was great to talk talk to you today, 777 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 2: have a great show. Hear your voice, Mo, see in Memphis. 778 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 2: There he is. That's Meager. We are done, Austin, Tony, 779 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 2: We're out. We're in very briefly. Tomorrow's are our names 780 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 2: for an hour. Enjoy the Mowagger Show. I Got Nothing 781 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 2: Left on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports station.