1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Twelve away from four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: m Oegger. Thank you for listening. On Thursdays, we talk 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: you see sports with our guy Chad Brendle, Bearcat Journal 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: dot com man who hosted this show on Monday and 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Tuesday of this week. 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 2: And there's a lot to discuss, hi chat. 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 3: I know, I think I'm hosting the show Thursday and 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: Friday also. 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Of next week, and then I believe the following Monday, right, 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: yeah and Monday. 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? Is that your spring training trip? 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: That's the annual spring training track? 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yeah, you and Jimmy have a good time. 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: Counting down the counting down the minutes. 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Not gonna lie to you counting down the minutes to 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: uh my first Arizona beer, no question. Uh is UC 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: versus Brendan Soresby ever actually gonna make it to a courtroom? 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 3: I mean, I have no cluemo. This thing seems so 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: cut and dry, but it's all built on such a 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: house of cards that I mean, I guess there's a 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: way for them to prove through Ohio law that it 22 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: wasn't a binding contract. But I mean, if these things 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: aren't by like, what are we doing well, if you 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: can't sign a guy to a two year contract and 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: then hold them to the buyout in that contract, like 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 3: this thing, it's not sustained. I mean, it already doesn't 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: feel sustainable if this wins in court, Like, I don't know, man, 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think that Joe Royer should 30 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: sue Brendan Sorosby for never throwing him the football? 31 00:01:52,320 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: Maybe? Yeah, breach of contract right roommates, So maybe there's like, 32 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: you know, something in there that they could he could 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: go after. I mean, I don't know, There's there's got 34 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: to be a way that I just don't I don't 35 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: understand it. You you did you see get value out 36 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: of having Brendan Soresby back for this year from January 37 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: to October? Absolutely? Can they sue him back for November? 38 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: Here's what I want to know. 39 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: So you see plays Texas Tech on October the twenty fourth, 40 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: it's it's Cincinnati's homecoming. They have the reigning Big Twelve 41 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: champs in for homecoming. Have we ever had a college 42 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: football game where there's been active litigation between one of 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: the schools in the game and one of the players 44 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: on the other team. 45 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: You think might like, would there be a like if 46 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 3: he doesn't pay, would there be like a warrant out 47 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: for his arrests? Of fuzz be with those with those 48 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: like you know, the guys that that lee and those 49 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: guys that they pay for security down on the field, 50 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: would they be able to like go arrest Brendan Soresby 51 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: and warm ups? 52 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be a scene that would be fun? Yes, 53 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 2: that would be That would be yeah, that would. 54 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: Be seen the Bearcat get arrested right about a closing 55 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: teams quarterback. 56 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: So that's That's one of the things I might really 57 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: like about this era of college sports that we're in 58 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: is we're going to have schools suing players and then 59 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: those players having to play against the school the school 60 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: that suit them, and it just it it ratchet is 61 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: it ratchets things up a little bit And I'm here 62 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: for it. 63 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 64 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 4: I I don't know, man, Like, you made a lot 65 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: of money at you see, Brendan, you made a lot 66 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: of money going to Texas Tech. Like to me, you 67 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: know what it sounds like, No one these crooked ass 68 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: uh agents in college are taking twenty percent off the 69 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 4: top of these contracts. 70 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: I mean, is this guy acting the way he is 71 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: his agent because it's gonna cost him two hundred thousand dollars. 72 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, uh, fair question. Chad brenda is SCAT journal 73 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: dot Com. 74 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: Hey, I get it. 75 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: I am amused by the fact that you have a 76 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: school suing a player who may play against him in October, Like, well, 77 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: you won't play against him in October barring injury, and 78 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: we'll see if there's still active litigation. But no, man, 79 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: I'm your basic premise. I agree with if if you 80 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: can't enforce this contract, then legitimately, what are we doing? 81 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: And we ask that somewhat. 82 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: Rhetorically, but in an era where you know, the entire 83 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: foundation of college sports seems to have never been flimsier 84 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: than it is right now, contracts may be the last 85 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: thing holding it up. And so if we decide that 86 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: they're null and void and can't be enforced, then then 87 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: what's the point of any of us. 88 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: I mean, here's the question, bro. If Brendan Soaresby played 89 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: two games last year and suffers an injury that you know, 90 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: God forbid severely limits the rest of his playing career, 91 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 3: could Cincinnati have backed out of that two year contract 92 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: and said we're not paying twenty twenty six, because I'm 93 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: guessing if that was the case, Freendon Soorsby's lawyers would 94 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: be knocking on Cincinnati's door saying, we want our money. 95 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's switch gears. Can the Bearcats win the remaining 96 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: three regular season basketball games? 97 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: Can they sure? I mean, I was busy working the 98 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: other night and I got done working and I looked 99 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: up and UCF was up seventy five to thirty on BYU. 100 00:05:54,520 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: Seventy five to thirty. Now in the next sixteen minutes, 101 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: I think BYU scored something like fifty six points in 102 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: the next sixteen minutes, So beating them is not going 103 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: to be easy. But I mean, Oklahoma State is struggling 104 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: right now. Their best, second best player gets hurt in 105 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 3: the final five seconds of overtime in that West Virginia game. 106 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: You should have an advantage there. BYU. You know a 107 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: lot of it. I think a lot of BYU. Devans 108 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: is gonna get his he's incredible. Can you shut down 109 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: Rob Right? If you can shut down Rob Right and 110 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 3: they don't have Richie Saunders Sanders like, you got a 111 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: chance against BYU. I mean the toughest one might be 112 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: TCU at home they're on the bubble, They're going to 113 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: be playing for their tournament life. Jamie Dixon's teams over 114 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: the past couple of years have historically been significantly better 115 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: at home than they are on the road. That one's 116 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: gonna be I mean b YU and tc You're both 117 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: going to be really difficult. But I mean that TCU 118 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: one boy, and that would be kind of the epitome 119 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: of what we've gone through the last five years. Right, 120 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: they win these two, now everybody's got them in the 121 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: next four out, the first four out. Can they get 122 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: this last win and then pop goes the bubble? 123 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: Do you subscribe to the belief that they have a 124 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: chance if they win the next three and then two 125 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:37,559 Speaker 1: in Kansas City? 126 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: What I subscribe to, what you should subscribe to is 127 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: Bearcat Journal dot com. What I don't subscribe to, MO 128 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: is that conference tournaments matter at all anymore. Yeah, I 129 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: just don't think that's the election committee good. 130 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: I was gonna say. 131 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: I think if there's been one takeaway about this entire 132 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: process that I've had for the last decade, it's exactly 133 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: what you just said. 134 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: They don't matter at all. They don't care like especially 135 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: the last probably five years, there's been multiple cases of 136 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: if this team wins one or two in the conference tournament, 137 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: they're playing their way in, and then that team's on 138 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: like the next four out like they weren't even close. 139 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: So there's a million bits of evidence here showing us. 140 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe it's like, you know, you beat Arizona 141 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: and Houston on your way to the Big Twelve title game, 142 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 3: but those odds are not great. So if you're gonna 143 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: get it done, you gotta win these next three. Let 144 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: the chips fall where they may. I think they probably 145 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: have dug themselves a hole that's too deep. I do 146 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: think there was if they had won at Texas Tech. 147 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: I thought there was a path, yes, because that would 148 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: have been another top fifteen type road win that really 149 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: would have enhanced your resume. You know, beatn BYU at 150 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: home is gonna help. But I don't think anybody's gonna 151 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: look at that and go, damn, that's that's a team 152 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: that we've got to put in. So I don't think 153 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: the tournament, the Big Twelve tournament helps any Maybe you 154 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: get right there to the cut line if you go 155 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: three and oh to end the regular season. I just 156 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 3: don't think there's enough meat on the bone that's gonna 157 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 3: get them over that hurdle. Right now. 158 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: You and I talked last Thursday. 159 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: The Bearcats were in the middle of a three game 160 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: winning streak that had it felt like, changed the conversation 161 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: about wes Miller's future. What did saturdays blowout win at 162 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: Kansas do for that conversation. 163 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: I mean it solidified some of the belief that there's 164 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 3: a chance he can play his way back into consideration 165 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 3: and pfully so, like, you know, you go to Kansas 166 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: to beat Kansas by sixteen, fully healthy Kansas Darren Peterson 167 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 3: plays the entire game. You know, nothing fluky happened in 168 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: that game that that was just Cincinnati played better than Kansas. 169 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: You know, it certainly helps. I still think it's going 170 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 3: to be a really hard sell to the fan base 171 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: if they don't make the NCAA tournament. But there are 172 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: people that you know, they donate more to U see 173 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: than I'll make in a decade. Those people have a 174 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: lot of weight, and I think that there's a portion 175 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: of that group that really likes wes Miller and wants 176 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: to see him succeed in this job. And if they're 177 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: ten and eight, you know, if they went out and 178 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: they still miss the tournament. But they're ten and eight 179 00:10:54,800 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: in the Big twelve, and you know they they prove 180 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: kind of been Big twelve play that they were legitimate. 181 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: I think there's a there's you know, there's a decent 182 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: chance you see him back for year six. 183 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: Good stuff as always, man, I will uh, I'll talk 184 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: to you in two weeks. 185 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. 186 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 3: Enjoy Arizona, though 187 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: I most definitely will next Wednesday, four o'clock ESPN fifteen 188 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station