1 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Back on the Big One seven hundred WLW twelve oh nine. 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Dan Carroll in for the Great American Bill Cunningham as 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: he enjoys some more time off and God knows he needs. 4 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: We got a lot going on today, and I get up, 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: I get ready for the show, and one of the 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: first things I see today is a headline in the 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: Inquirer that city council considers immigrant protection against ice. And 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: then I go in and I look at the article 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: and I see that this young congret not congressman, but 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: city council member, This young man Ryan James, has decided that, 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: you know what, it might be a good thing to 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: virtue signal when it comes to immigrants, when it comes 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: to telling people how to avoid ice, when it comes 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: to the city, not even really knowing who's working for 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: the city, and not even the considering asking people where 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: they come from, who they are now, none of that. 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: We can't have any of that, And of course he 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: wants to do it with other people's money. Joining me 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: now is the man who ran for mayor and one 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: of the first Republicans in years to dare try to 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: become the mayor of Cincinnati, Corey Bowman and Corey Bowman, 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Welcome again to seven hundred WLW. 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: Hey Dan, thank you so much to you guys for 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: having me. Am I looking at this in the wrong way. 25 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: I really don't see this as someone who wants to 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: be considered as a serious member of council. I see 27 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: this as, as I said, virtue signaling with other people's money. 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: Am I looking at this the wrong way? 29 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: No? 30 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 4: I think what we have to look at is that 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 4: we ran a race for mayor Cincinnati. Like you said, 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 4: we were the first Republican to run in sixteen years, 33 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 4: and we just basically felt that, hey, somebody's got to 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: get in the race and bring these city issues to life. 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: A lot of people they turn into just national politics, 36 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: and that's what we're seeing is everybody wants to turn 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: it into copying, pasting of what we're seeing nationally. But 38 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: there's real city issues that are going on. There's real 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: city simple services that need to be addressed in our city, 40 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: and that is continuing to be neglected by this current council. 41 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: After the election, two of the council members immediately announce 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 4: that they're running for higher office at the county or 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 4: state level. And then we have the newest member of 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 4: City Council that one of its first acts is to 45 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: try to get on the national stage when it comes 46 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 4: to this proposal that he's having, and it's neglecting the 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: city issues and it's neglecting the legal citizens of Cincinnati. 48 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 4: But that's all city Hall is trying to do is 49 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 4: try to make these national issues at the forefront so 50 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: that they can be on the national stage one day. 51 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: It's a stepping stone. I talk about how you city 52 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 4: council members and the mayor are like the Brian Kellyes 53 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 4: of Cincinnati politics. They're just using Cincinnati as a stepping stone, 54 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 4: waiting for that call from Notre Dame and then LSU 55 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 4: just moving up the ladder. So we need people a 56 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 4: city hall that address these issues. We had four shooting 57 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 4: to happen with a twenty four hour period over the weekend, 58 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: and then last night we see another lady that was 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 4: shot in the West End. We've got to stop this 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 4: right now, and that takes the city hall being serious 61 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: about addressing city issues. 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: Well, and that's the point I was going The next 63 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: point I was going to make is that there are 64 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: serious issues that confront this mayor in this city council. 65 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: When you talk about the serious funding issues and the 66 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: giant debt hole that the city has, and how are 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: you going to address that in a meaningful way. We've 68 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: got crime that has got completely out of control. We 69 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: have a police chief that is twisting in the wind 70 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: right now because of apparently political issues. We've got all 71 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 1: kinds of other things going on. We're supposed to have 72 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: cameras in there to help deter crime, but it seems 73 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: like these issues that have been on the front burner 74 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: for a couple going on a couple or more years 75 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: now really don't want to be addressed in a meaningful way. Instead, 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: we want to have a city council member order the 77 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: city administration to do an investigation, come up with a report, 78 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: and then funnel taxpayer dollars to mngos and nonprofit organizations 79 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: that by the way, a lot of these nonprofit organizations 80 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: and mngos have been in the news lately when it 81 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: comes to just gross amounts of corruption, gross amounts of 82 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: money that doesn't get used for its intended purposes. And 83 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: to do this at this particular time, I don't know. 84 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: It strikes me again as a member of council who 85 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: really isn't bringing anything of substance to the job. 86 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 5: Well, let's talk. 87 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 4: I think the biggest issue here is like, Okay, let's 88 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 4: put all personal politics aside, let's put all the nation 89 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 4: politics a society. Do we really believe that this is 90 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: the best way to spend the city taxpayer dollars in 91 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 4: the crisis is that we're facing right now when it 92 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: comes to the pension funds, when it comes to the infrastructure, 93 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 4: when it comes to the potholes not being filled, when 94 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: it comes to the crime, when it comes to the 95 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 4: multiple legal things that we're seeing that we're going to 96 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 4: have to pay for lawsuits and settlements for Chief Washington 97 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 4: that was wrongly elect go, when it comes to Chief Figi, 98 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 4: when it comes to a lot of other issues that 99 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: are currently facing the city. This current proposal that the 100 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 4: newest council member put out is calling for a ninety 101 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 4: day audit only on the departments to identify where citizenship 102 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 4: or naturalization status is being collected. Do you realize that 103 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 4: that's going to take money? An audit like that takes money. 104 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 4: Why don't we actually take that money and audit the 105 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: entirety of the city funds and the budgets that's going 106 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 4: into these NGOs and non offits that don't have accountability. Well, 107 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: then another part of it is that it's calling for 108 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 4: data removal of these places, which is actually putting more 109 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: on the table of the city manager. And I think 110 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 4: what we're seeing right now is no more needs to 111 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 4: be put on the table the city manager. She needs 112 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: to focus on what is currently in need right now 113 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 4: with infrastructure, with the budget, with the crime and then 114 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 4: on top of that, they're asking for nearly five hundred 115 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: thousand dollars to go towards services they call them, you know, 116 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: the most vulnerable of the residents of Cincinnati. Vote's going 117 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 4: toward illegal immigrants, and the mayor put out a statement 118 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 4: that said that, you know, he supports anything that's going 119 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: toward the constituents of Cincinnati. Well, I think that city 120 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 4: council and the mayor see constituents the definition of that 121 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: different than me. I see the constituents as those that 122 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: are legally able to vote in those legally that you're 123 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: binded to represent in the city of Cincinnati. And that's 124 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: not what proposals like this are doing. They're actually representing 125 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: people that are not a part of that constituency. 126 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and credit to the inquiry because in the piece 127 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: they wrote, they linked to some of these agencies are 128 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: that very well could be in line to get money 129 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: from the City of Cincinnati. And I look at their 130 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: websites and I see that they are funded by some 131 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: of the biggest corporations, some of the biggest names in 132 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: business in and around Cincinnati. At least one private university 133 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: that was listed as a donor and a supporter on 134 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: one of these websites. So it's one thing I think, 135 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, if private business wants to donate money to 136 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: these organizations that seek to help out these individuals, that's 137 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: their business, that's their private money. But I think it's 138 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: another thing completely when you are a member of city 139 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: council and you say, yeah, yeah, some tax dollars ought 140 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: to be funneled into these organizations, it seems to me 141 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: like they're and look, we have seen again too far, 142 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: too many examples of where these tax dollars get funneled 143 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: to these organizations and then there are favors done, there 144 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: are money that comes back, there's all this sort of 145 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: just it just opens the door for further corruption, and 146 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: we should be looking at doing the exact opposite of 147 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: that instead. 148 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: Of feeding into it. Now, you're exactly right. 149 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 4: You know, make no mistake, these issues and these resolutions, 150 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 4: these things get put out. You know, they want to 151 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: blanket with all. We're taking care of the most vulnerable, 152 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 4: We're taking care. 153 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: Of people that are in need. 154 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 4: And yeah, that all sounds good. I mean, obviously we 155 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: should be able to help people. Now, we can't lose 156 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: a heart for people. But at the same time, these 157 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: types of actions have nothing to do with that. It 158 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 4: has to do with national politics and have to do 159 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: with money that is not being spent properly. You know, 160 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 4: we saw that they wanted to put three hundred and 161 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: eighty thousand dollars into youth centers over last summer to 162 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 4: be able to cut down on youth violence and to 163 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: issue a curfew. Then we see that that three hundred 164 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: and eighty thousand dollars went to nonprofits that only I 165 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 4: think it was either two or four individuals. So that's 166 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 4: I mean, you're looking at almost one hundred thousand dollars 167 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: per person just to hold them overnight. That's not helping 168 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 4: the community. It's just wasting money or funneling. 169 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 2: Money where it doesn't need to go. 170 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 4: There are nonprofits that do great work in the city. 171 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: There are individuals in the city that do need help, 172 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: but unfortunately the city funds, how they're being navigated and 173 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: how they're being dispersed are not going toward those that 174 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 4: are truly in need in our city. And everybody's starting 175 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 4: to catch on with it. You know, when there was 176 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 4: an eleven year old girl named Queen Irie that was 177 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 4: shot on January first, her grandmother is a member of 178 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: my church. I was there that night in the community 179 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: at the hospital, and the first thing people are asking 180 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 4: is where the cameras. They promised cameras two years ago, 181 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: And let me tell you something. The cameras at Lawell 182 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 4: Park they're still not up. It's been months now. And 183 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: then on top of that, the cameras are not on 184 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 4: other areas where they were promised. On top of that, 185 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: these parks that are hotspot. Laurel Park is pitch black 186 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 4: at night. There's not even proper lighting in the park. 187 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 4: So the thing that caused a little eleven year old 188 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: girl to get shot on January first, there is not 189 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: one thing that is in place right now to prevent 190 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: another eleven year old girl from getting shot in that park. 191 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 4: And that is the definition of money not being spent 192 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 4: properly and not going toward where it needs to go. 193 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 4: Stop putting these resolutions out to get on national news 194 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 4: for your future ticket that you want to do, and 195 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 4: start focusing on the people that you represent in our city. 196 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Albi says, or not Albi, but well James, and 197 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: Albi is the other council member that supports it. I 198 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: guess she has her own measure. And when you look 199 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: at the city administration and people that work, I guess 200 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: work for the city, they want the city to not 201 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: ask any questions at all about citizenship. So one scenario 202 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: is you could have an individual who is in the 203 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: country ille who winds up getting a job with the city. 204 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: The city's not allowed to ask or that they want 205 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: the city to not even consider whatever your status is. 206 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: And then this is a person who would be who 207 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: would be especially if it's an illegal alien that has 208 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: committed crimes. And these are the kind of people that 209 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: ICE is looking for. So didn't we learn anything from 210 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: what we saw in Minneapolis when ICE was going there 211 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: trying to round up the worst of the worst criminals, 212 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: and because they didn't get cooperation from the city, they 213 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: didn't get cooperation from the state. We saw at least 214 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: two people lose their lives, and we saw all these 215 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: demonstrations and just terrible things happened on the street. And 216 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: I can't believe that we would get involved in a 217 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: situation where we would likely have some of the same 218 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: things play out here on the streets of Cincinnati. 219 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 4: No, you're right, And one thing that you mentioned there too, 220 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 4: as far as the workforce of Cincinnati, one of the 221 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: biggest complaints I got during the mayor race is from 222 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 4: the unions that represent the workers of Cincinnati, as they 223 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 4: say that the current administration doesn't work with them to 224 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 4: get have the right labor agreement set up to ensure 225 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 4: that Cincinnati workers are the first and foremost that are 226 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 4: being hired. And so when you talk about local workforce, 227 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: when we talk about local jobs and industry, because we 228 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 4: talk a lot about crime. Crime as a director, is 229 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: all of this concentrated poverty. Concentrate poverty is coming from 230 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 4: not having the opportunity of jobs and careers and services 231 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: to be able to lift people out of poverty. And 232 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: decisions like this distract like what Counselman Ryan James just 233 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 4: did and what there's been many decisions and resolutions that 234 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 4: are just distracting from what we actually need to do 235 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: to help the people on the streets, including the workforce, 236 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 4: including the kids that go to our schools, including the 237 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 4: families that need a leg up when it comes to 238 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: things that are plaguing them in our city. 239 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Corey Bowman, I know you've got a 240 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: lot going on today. I appreciate you carbon out the 241 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: time as always, and I always appreciate your insight on 242 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: issues like this, And it just looks like city Hall. 243 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: City Hall wants to keep going further and further out 244 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: of control. And look, this is what the people of 245 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: Cincinnati voted for. But it's a it's an absolute shame 246 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: because when it comes to look, we all want to 247 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: live in a great, vibrant, great city, but when it 248 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: comes to policies like this, I don't think that takes 249 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: us in the right direction. Corey Bowman, I'll give you 250 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: the last word before you go. 251 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 4: I would encourage everybody don't just get on and social 252 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: media or any place and just complain about it. Get 253 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: involved locally, you know, whether it's Democrat or Republican. I 254 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 4: talk to many Democrats that are that are actually very 255 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 4: frustrated with what's going on in our city right now, 256 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: and it's going to take people that just get involved, 257 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 4: whether it be from the political prospect or whether it 258 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: be contacting the offices of these councilors and letting them know, hey, 259 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 4: these are the issues that we care about. There's a 260 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 4: pothole in front of my bus, or there's a family 261 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 4: here that needs help, that's financial, citizens of the city, 262 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 4: or whatever it might be. Bring the issues that are 263 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 4: important to you to light and then if there's enough pressure, 264 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 4: you will see change in the legislation because we can't 265 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: let them forget that they represent us. 266 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, as always, I appreciate it. We'll talk to 267 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: you again before too long, my friend. 268 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 4: Thank you, sir. 269 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: All Right, there you go, Corey Bowman, the man who 270 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: would have been mayor. But and again to the Inquirer's credit, 271 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: they did get a quote from Tricia McLaughlin from the 272 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security and when she saw this policy, 273 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: she said, this is a slap in the face to 274 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: thirty five percent of Cincinnati children who live in poverty. 275 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: So those dollars ought to be going to their social 276 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: safety and that to their benefit instead of the illegal 277 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: aliens and it did you. Here's the kind of policy 278 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: that the city ought to be sending out to those 279 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: whose status in this country is is questionable. That if 280 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: you're here illegally and you want to go home, the 281 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security is offering you the use of 282 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: the CBP Home mobile app, so you can voluntarily self deport. 283 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: Through this app. 284 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: You receive a complimentary plane ticket, you receive two thousand, 285 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: six hundred dollars as an exit bonus, and you'll have 286 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: any unpaid fines for failing to timely to port forgiven. 287 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: That's a pretty good policy right there. Plus you have. 288 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: The opportunity to come back into the country at a 289 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: later time and do it in a legal way. That 290 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: to me seems like a very humane, a very considerate policy. Millions, 291 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: a couple of millions so far, maybe more than that, 292 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: have taken advantage of this policy. That's the kind of 293 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: policy that City Hall ought to be sending out to 294 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: those in this area that may be thinking about trying 295 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: to hide out from not encouraging more of the same 296 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: that we've seen in other cities across We don't want 297 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: that chaos here. But yet, through all the virtue signaling 298 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: that these people want to do. 299 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: It seems like we may be online for more. 300 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: We got to get to a break, but before we do, 301 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: iHeartMedia and seven hundred WLW. Salute Cincinnati's own Procter and gamble. 302 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: If you've got someone there that you would like for 303 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: us to recognize on the air, text us their name 304 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: to this number five to one, eight eight one and 305 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: be listening. Dan Carroll in for Bill Cunningham on seven 306 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: hundred WLW. All right back on a big one, seven 307 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: hundred WLW, Dan Carroll in for Bill Cunningham, and my 308 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: next guest is I've talked about her a couple of 309 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: times since the super Bowl came to an end, and 310 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: it's really it's a little bit of a stroke of 311 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: luck that I have her on today because it I 312 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: believe it was. The day after the super Bowl. I 313 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: got on my Facebook, and I do not get on 314 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: my Facebook all that much, maybe I don't know, a 315 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: couple of times a week, once a week something like that, 316 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: and not all that often. But I saw a post 317 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: that she put on her Facebook page and I thought, 318 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: you know what, this is very interesting, and I thought 319 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: I got to reach out to this woman and see 320 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: if I can get her on the show, because I 321 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: think she's got an interesting story to tell. And lo 322 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: and behold joining us from Are you in Aurora, Colorado? 323 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: Danielle Danielle Jorinsky? 324 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 6: I sure, am all right? 325 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: How's life in Aurora, Colorado? 326 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 7: Well, it's very socialist right now? 327 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: It's not great, very socialist. 328 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: The post that you put on your Facebook page, and 329 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: I believe this might have been the night of or 330 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: the day after the super Bowl, really grabbed my attention 331 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: because you run a bar. By the way, how's business 332 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: at the bar? AJ's Place? 333 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 6: Business is great? 334 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well good? 335 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: It relates to my listeners what happened the night of 336 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: the super Bowl while you had the Super Bowl on TV? 337 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: I guess we guess you have multiple TVs at your 338 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: bar there? 339 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 6: Sure, and I do. It's a sports bar. We have 340 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 6: twenty TVs. 341 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 7: And you know, I knew something was going to happen 342 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 7: because as people were coming in, they were asking which 343 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 7: halftime show are you going to be showing? So I 344 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 7: already knew that we were going to have some sort 345 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 7: of an issue. But when it came time for the 346 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 7: halftime show, we were very busy and we didn't get 347 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 7: around to changing all the TVs yet, so it was a. 348 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 6: Bad money show on. 349 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 7: But we got around, and so I would say it 350 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 7: was about eighty twenty eighty percent wanting the Turning Point 351 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 7: Show and twenty percent wanting the Bad Bunny Show. So 352 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 7: my staff and I we got around, we got all 353 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 7: the TVs changed. What we did is we did fifty 354 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 7: to fifty. Okay, we had half the TVs showing Bad 355 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 7: Bunny and half of them showing the Turning Point halftime show. Well, 356 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 7: the Bad Bunny folks absolutely lost their mind. They decided 357 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 7: that they were going to go to the jukebox and 358 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 7: play a whole bunch of Bad Bunny songs. And I 359 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 7: mean they started demanding refunds of their money. 360 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 6: They didn't want their food. It became a whole scene. 361 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 7: One of them went live on her Instagram and the 362 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 7: next thing I know, I started getting emails that I 363 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 7: was getting a whole bunch of one star reviews on 364 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 7: Google and Yelp. 365 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 6: Now Yelp is great. 366 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 7: Yelp froze the account immediately and would not show those 367 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 7: reviews until it got sorted out. Ultimately, with Google, I 368 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 7: had to request to get the reviews removed. They were removed. 369 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 6: It just turned into an absolute nightmare. 370 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 7: Then the bad Bunny folks were mad after the halftime 371 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 7: show was over. They wanted their Bad Bunny songs to 372 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 7: still play on the jukebox, and we said, absolutely not. 373 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 7: The super Bowl is back on, so we. 374 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 6: We shut it off. 375 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 7: We shut the jukebox off and went back to showing 376 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 7: the super Bowl. People were walking out. I was getting 377 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 7: one star reviews. I refunded some money. It was a 378 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 7: It was a pretty crazy experience. 379 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: How about that? 380 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: So what about the people who wanted to see the 381 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: Turning Point halftime show? 382 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: What was their reaction? 383 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: And because look, only half the TVs had the Turning 384 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: Point showed on, but the O the rest of the 385 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: TV's had the Bad Bunny Show on. What was the 386 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: reaction from those who didn't care for the Bad Bunny 387 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: Show but preferred to see the toy to the Turning 388 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: Point show? 389 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 6: They were just fine? 390 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: How about that? That interesting? 391 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: And I really think and the reason I wanted to 392 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: have you on is because I would imagine that there 393 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: are other bars across the country that, if they have 394 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: an owner like you, may have run into a very 395 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: similar situation. But this points out a point that I 396 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: have been making for years that we constantly hear from 397 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: those on the left and in the in the Democrat 398 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: Party about how they are the most tolerant among us. 399 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: They are the ones who are open minded, They are 400 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: the ones who care about others. That they are the 401 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: ones who are accepting of all these different lifestyles and 402 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: opinions and everything else. But when the rubber hits the road, 403 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: they really don't put that in the practice, do they. 404 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 6: They do not. And I witnessed this firsthand. 405 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 7: This This was wild, you know, But I did get 406 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 7: I did get a lot of support from the folks. 407 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 7: And I don't even know some of them, you know, 408 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 7: they they could have been wanting to watch the Bad 409 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 7: Bunny halftime show, but remained quiet. They just watched it 410 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 7: on the TVs that it was on. I mean, I 411 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 7: have no idea the ones who became vocal, who became angry, 412 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 7: they were definitely bad Bunny folks. 413 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: You talk about the the reviews that you get on 414 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: Google and Yelp. As a small business owner, how important. 415 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 7: Things like that, You know, they can be very important, 416 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 7: And so I, like I said, I was thankful for 417 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 7: how Yelp. 418 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 6: Handled it. Google was a little bit tougher. 419 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 7: I had to request to have some of these reviews removed. 420 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 7: But you know, ultimately it just the chaos that ensued 421 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 7: with it trying to you know, the bars packed. It's 422 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 7: the Super Bowl. I'm trying to uh refund money. I'm 423 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 7: trying to get the sound back on for the game. 424 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 7: They're trying to override that and play the jukebox for 425 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 7: bad Bunny songs. I mean, it's just absolutely ridiculous, absolutely 426 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 7: ridiculous what happened. 427 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: Uh, you are are so Aurora, Colorado. 428 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: This is this is where members of Trend de Argua 429 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: came in and took over a couple of apartment buildings 430 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: and were I guess running the apartment buildings that are 431 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: like like a mafia outfit. 432 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: Is that right? 433 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 6: That's correct. 434 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 7: In fact, I am that council member that exposed that 435 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 7: and went into those apartment complexes and started moving people out. 436 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 437 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you if you were you 438 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: were on council. Are you still on the on the 439 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: council there in in Aurora? 440 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 7: I am not currently, but you never know what the 441 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 7: future will hold. 442 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but but you were on council at the time, 443 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: and this is a story that that made Nash News 444 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: and and most famously I remember jd Vance doing an 445 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: interview on this, and I believe it was with Martha 446 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: Rattets of ABC News on a Sunday show and she said, Hey, 447 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: it's only a couple of apartment buildings, and he stopped 448 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: her mid sentence and he said, do you hear yourself? 449 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: Do you hear what you're saying? 450 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: That that that you are giving sanction to this notion 451 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: that the gang's members from foreign countries can come illegally 452 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: into our country and then run run a shakedown operation 453 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: at and take over control of apartment buildings in an 454 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: American city. What's the status on that now? How has 455 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: that played out over the last year and a half 456 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: or so? 457 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 7: Those apartment complexes are all shut down, They are being remodeled. 458 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 6: Yep, they're being remodeled. 459 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 7: And ICE has done a fantastic job of getting trendy 460 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 7: arragua out of here. 461 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: How about that? 462 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: What did the did ICE get cooperation from the city 463 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: council or the county there or the state in rounding 464 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: these people up? 465 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 7: We have a state law here in Colorado that local 466 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 7: law enforcement of any kind is not allowed to work 467 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 7: with federal but what I will say is we did 468 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 7: not get in the way. 469 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: Didn't get in the way, and so ICE was able 470 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: to come in and do its job. And the reason 471 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: I asked is because I don't recall seeing events on 472 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: the city streets of your city much like we saw 473 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis over the last couple of months. 474 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 6: That's right, that's right. 475 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: So a little cooperation goes a long. 476 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 6: Way, I would say. 477 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: So, yeah, yeah, we have a city council member just 478 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: got elected to Cincinnati City Council that has just come 479 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: out with a proposal that the city start funneling money 480 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: to nonprofits, that the city start that the city enacts 481 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: upon policy of not questioning people that may work for 482 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: the city or live in the city about their immigration status, 483 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: where they come from, who they are, that they just 484 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: let go of all that and all this in order 485 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: to protect from any ICE operations that may take place 486 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: in our city. To my way of thinking, that's one 487 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: it's virtue signaling with other people's money, and I think 488 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: when you engage in activity like that, the results wind 489 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: up not to be what what's desired. If you want 490 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: to live in a in a in a peaceful city 491 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: where law and order is the is the name of 492 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: the game. 493 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 7: I agree, you know what I saw goo on here 494 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 7: in Aurora, and they very swiftly and quickly took trendy 495 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 7: Iragua out. 496 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 6: Our crime rate dropped twenty six. 497 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: Twenty six. 498 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: We could use some of that here in Cincinnati twenty 499 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: What's been the what's been the reaction there since you 500 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: let everyone know what happened at at your place of business? 501 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: You said business is pretty good. Are you getting support 502 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: from people in the community on this. 503 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 6: I'm getting a lot of support. You know. 504 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 7: There's the people who are calling me a liar and 505 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 7: saying this didn't happen and that I'm just maga and 506 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 7: I'm making it up and blah blah blah. But you know, 507 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 7: it is what it is. You know, people, people are 508 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 7: going to hate and and they the left is so 509 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 7: filled with hate right now. It's just it's consumed them. 510 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 7: You know, they're the party of tolerance, the party of love, and. 511 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 6: I'm not seeing it. I'm not seeing it. I'm certainly 512 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 6: not feeling it. 513 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, how about your employees, because it seems like they 514 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: received some I guess some hate on the part of 515 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: some of these folks who were there through uh guessing 516 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: them through nothing that was any fault of their. 517 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 6: Own, That's right. 518 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 7: And I think for me, that's what bothers me the 519 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 7: most is how they were treated. And then afterwards, you know, 520 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 7: they got some phone calls and was told that they 521 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 7: work for a horrible person and how could you work there, 522 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 7: and blah blah blah. But for the most part, we 523 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 7: have moved on and moved forward, and we're going to 524 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 7: just keep going and keep running our business. 525 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Daniel, Daniel Jorinsky, it's been great talking 526 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: to you. Are you you got any future plans to 527 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: to run for counsel or any other elective office there 528 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: and Aurora, Colorado? 529 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 7: You know, I do have some future plans, but nothing 530 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 7: that I can discuss right now. 531 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't want to. 532 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to break any news, you know, from Aurora, 533 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: Colorado and Cincinnati. I wouldn't I would want to do 534 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: anything like that. But you're you know, jeopardize your future 535 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: political viability in any way. 536 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 6: Right, Well, I you know. 537 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 7: And and but once you say you're officially doing something, right, 538 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's the rule, is that you are 539 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 7: then running. 540 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 6: For that seat. 541 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 7: So I do have plans to do some things in 542 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 7: the future, but as of right now, it's kind. 543 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 6: Of up in the air. 544 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 545 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: I would imagine that you being in the kind of 546 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: position that you're in there, that you have folks who 547 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: sort of keep tabs on you and and just keep 548 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: an eye on every single move that you make. 549 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 6: And they sure do. 550 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: How's that going? 551 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 8: You know? 552 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 7: Like I said, the haters are gonna hate, and they do, 553 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 7: and they are mean and they are nasty, and you know, 554 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 7: I just have to I pray a lot. I spend 555 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 7: a lot of time with my family, you know that. 556 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 7: I just try to find ways to be around positivity 557 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 7: because that's all you can do. I mean, politics can 558 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 7: really bring you down. It can really wear you out. 559 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 7: I always love emails and letters of support, so that's 560 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 7: very helpful. And that's all you can do is try 561 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 7: to surround yourself with positivity. 562 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Danielle Jorinsky, great talking to you today. 563 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: Best of luck with the business. And any of the 564 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: folks who complained on Super Bowl Sunday about your the 565 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: way you ran your your televisions and your business that day, 566 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: Have any of those folks come back at all to 567 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: patronize your business? 568 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 6: No, and I doubt that they will. 569 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a shame. That's a shame. 570 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: Well, I guess they have other choices they can make 571 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: there in Aurora, Colorado. All right, right, all right, well Danielle, 572 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: all the best to you. I appreciate the time today, 573 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: and if anything anything new develops, shoot me a message 574 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: and and maybe we'll have you on again sometime. 575 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. 576 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 6: I sure will. Thank you so much. 577 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: All right, Danielle, great talking to you. Have a great day. 578 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: Danielle Jerminsky from Aurora, Colorado. And she was on council 579 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: when Trend de Aargua was taken over apartment buildings there 580 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: and what an absolute mess that was. But seeing and 581 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: I love the part where she talks about how they 582 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: got it squared away. Ice came in, they knew who 583 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: the bad guys were. There's a state law, according to her, 584 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: in Colorado that local law enforcement, police, sheriffs, whatever, will 585 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: not assist will not assist federal Immigrations and customs enforcement. 586 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: But she also said we did not stand in their 587 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: way and everything went pretty well. So is that asking 588 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: too much of our local law enforcement to simply not 589 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: stand in their way? Don't encourage others to run and 590 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: hide from law enforcement, whether it's local, whether it's state, 591 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: whether it's fed and come in and do their jobs. 592 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: And then conversely, I mean, think about the kind of 593 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: people that you are protecting when you engage in activity 594 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: like this. And it's not hard to find. Department of 595 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: Homeland Security has a website out there that anyone can 596 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: go to and you can look up some of the 597 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: offenses that these individuals have been charged with and have 598 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: already been convicted of. And when we're talking about murder, 599 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about drugs, we're talking about trafficking of kids, 600 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: of little kids, into sex, slavery, into just some of 601 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: the most horrific things you can ever imagine. You're talking 602 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: about people who go out, get drunk, drive on the 603 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: wrong side of the road, and wind up killing people. 604 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: You can find case after case after case of individuals 605 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: like that, young women who are brutally murdered, in some 606 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: cases decapitated, throwing off a bridge, left for dead, thousands 607 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: of American families who have had their lives ruined by 608 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: illegal alien criminals, and by and large, those are the 609 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: ones that are being sought by ICE. Get him out 610 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: of here, Barack Obama did it, didn't see any big protests. 611 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: Then Joe Biden did it, maybe not to the same 612 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: degree as Barack Obama, didn't see a lot of protests, 613 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: And of course he opened the gates to allow millions 614 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: and millions of undocumented illegals into the country. But it's 615 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: amazing how all these stories get connected to each other. 616 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: Coming up, I've got I got a couple of things 617 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: in the two o'clock hour. I've got an author on. 618 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: His name is Frank DeVito. He's a lawyer by and 619 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: he also does a lot of speaking engagements and things 620 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: like that. He's written a book that just came out 621 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: on JD. Vance and it's called jd Vance in the 622 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: Future of the Republican Party. And I really think jd 623 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: Vance is an interesting guy. And this guy has written 624 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: a book about JD. Vance in his life and times 625 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: and how he grew up and all the rest of it. 626 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: So I'm interested in talking to him and getting some 627 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: insight on JD. 628 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: Vance. 629 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: And then after the news here at the top of 630 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: the hour, I'll be joined by my buddy Daniel Turner 631 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: from Power of the Future, and I want to have 632 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: him on because the other day, I saw David Murr 633 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: of ABC News come out and tell the American people 634 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: that the United States has the power to control the 635 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: climate in this country, and Donald Trump has simply thrown 636 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: that away. So we'll find out what Daniel Turner has 637 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: to say about that and other issues as well. So 638 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: I hope you can stick with us until three o'clock 639 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: this afternoon. Dan Carroll for Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WLW, 640 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW, The Great American has a day off. 641 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Carroll, glad to be here. Glad you are 642 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: here as well. Last Friday, President Trump came out and 643 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: said the United States is doing away with the Endangerment finding. 644 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: This was a Barack Obama era policy that allowed well, 645 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: what it really did was it cost you about an 646 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: extra twenty four hundred dollars per vehicle for all the 647 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: EPA regulations and all the anti pollution this, that and 648 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: the other thing that came as standard equipment on your 649 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: average new car. Joining me now with some information on 650 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: this and a reaction to this and some thing that 651 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: David Muir of ABC News said, is my buddy Daniel 652 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: Turner from Power of the Future, and Daniel Turner great 653 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: to have you back on the big one. 654 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 9: Hey, Dan, great to be with you today, and this 655 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 9: is great news. I'm happy to talk about that. 656 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 2: Well good. 657 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad you used the word news because there are 658 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: millions of Americans who get their news from the big 659 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: networks ABC, NBCCBS. And last Friday, after this policy came 660 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: out from the President of the United States, David Muir 661 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: went on national television and said this to the American people, Dave, 662 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: can we hear cut one please? 663 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 2: Tonight? 664 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 10: President Trump has repealed US power to regulate climate in 665 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 10: this country. The President officially rejecting the science and what 666 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 10: this now clears the way for critics tonight arguing this 667 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 10: is not only dangerous for the environment, but for your health. 668 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 2: So there you go, Daniel Turner. 669 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: David Muir comes out and says President Trump has repealed 670 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: US power to regulate climate in this country. Is it 671 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: just me or does that statement seemed to be a 672 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: tad bit irresponse. 673 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 2: A little bit hyperbolic? 674 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 5: Maybe right. I mean, I'm surprised. 675 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 9: It's been a whole week and I'm still alive. I 676 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 9: thought at this point the pollution was going to get me, right, 677 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 9: the pollution it's in the closet lurking, you know, like 678 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 9: Jeffrey Epstein, and it's going to get you if you're 679 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 9: not paying attention. 680 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 5: It's so absurd to think that. 681 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 9: We could ever regulate the climate. First of all, whoever 682 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 9: wrote that line for David Muir should be embarrassed. What 683 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 9: the Engagement finding did was it gave blanket permission for 684 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 9: the bureaucracies to exist as what we know to be 685 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 9: the deep state. Right, we have laws on the books 686 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 9: to protect the environment, think of the Clean Air Act, 687 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 9: but Barack Obama didn't think it went far enough, so 688 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 9: he decided, you know what, I think carbon dioxide is 689 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 9: a pollutant, and so since I think it is a pollutant, 690 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 9: therefore I think I have the right to regulate it. 691 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 9: And that's a pretty dangerous deduction, right we allow our 692 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 9: government to do because then anything they find dangerous, they're 693 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 9: allowed to regulate. 694 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 5: And determine every aspect of its life. 695 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 9: So when it comes to carbon dioxide, which by the way, 696 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 9: is not a pollutant. I saw Bill Maher recently confuse 697 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 9: monoxide and dioxide. 698 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: He made a joke on his comedy show. He was like, if. 699 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 9: Republicans don't think carbon dioxide as a pollutant. 700 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 2: Tell him to put on the car in their garage 701 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 2: and sit there and. 702 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 5: See all that, and you say. 703 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 9: That's carbon monoxide. I know science is hard, right, and 704 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 9: I know you're a lib But monoxide dioxide, it's not 705 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 9: just twice the oxide, right, It's not just more oxides. 706 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 5: It's an entirely different chemical. 707 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: Compound, one of them being deadly. 708 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 9: But this is the insanity, is that if the government 709 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 9: is allowed to regulate what they. 710 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 2: Deem dangerous, then they will always deem something dangerous. Right. 711 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 9: If everything you see is if you're a hammer, everything 712 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 9: looks like in. 713 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 2: Nail, you know, Daniel Turner. 714 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: And the thing about this story it hit me, and 715 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: especially what David Muir had to say. It hits me 716 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: on a couple of different fronts. And it's the things 717 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: that you and I have talked about many times on 718 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: this show. And one is that the media has no 719 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: problem really not telling the truth about these issues, and 720 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: the other is really a little bit of an insight 721 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,479 Speaker 1: into the way the media works. I have no doubt 722 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 1: that there is some writer or some producer at ABC 723 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: News who truly believes that the power to regulate the 724 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: climate exists and wrote that into this story. But I look, 725 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: I used to anchor newscasts myself, and I looked at 726 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: every single script before I read it on the air. 727 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: So it means and a few times that I had 728 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 1: to read something cold on the air. There were times 729 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: when it didn't go all that well. But David Muir 730 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 1: should have had the wherewithal so look at this script 731 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,439 Speaker 1: and at least call it into question, at least say 732 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 1: do we really But no, he didn't he read this 733 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: on the air. Why because it accrues to the benefit 734 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: of ABC News or those who hate Trump, And this 735 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: is just this is another level of Trump arrangement syndrome 736 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: and another way for the network news in this case, 737 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: ABC to go out and bass Trump. Absolutely. 738 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 9: Look everything that everything the Engagement Finding could was ostensibly 739 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 9: meant to do, we should do right now. But Trump says, 740 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 9: you have to pass the law. And I think that's 741 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 9: something the American people want. 742 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 2: Right If you. 743 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 5: Think that you should regulate carbon. 744 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 9: Dioxide, any Democrat legislator can propose a bill right now. 745 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 2: But they know they're not going to get the votes. 746 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 9: They know it's on constitutional First of all, they know 747 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 9: it's election suicide, so they like the big ugly deep state. 748 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 9: They like the nebulous deep state to say, you guys 749 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 9: do all the dirty work that I don't want to 750 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 9: put my fingers on. Right, And there are real world 751 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 9: consequences of the Engagement Finding, And here's probably the best example. 752 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 9: And I think we're going to have an AHA moment 753 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 9: for your huge audience right now that's listening. 754 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 2: Hold onto your hats because you're going. 755 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 5: To say, oh, my gosh, that makes total sense. 756 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 2: Here's the AHA moment. 757 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 9: Do you remember not long ago that you could buy 758 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 9: a model car and if you got the manual transmission, 759 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 9: it was around three thousand dollars cheaper, and you'd be like, 760 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 9: you know what, I don't mind driving a stick. I 761 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 9: like driving a stick and it's so much cheaper. You 762 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 9: know why you can't find manual transmissions anymore because the 763 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 9: Endangerment Finding said that manual transmissions idle too much, and 764 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 9: idling cars spew carbon dioxide. So they made it such 765 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 9: that car manufacturers could not make them anymore. That is 766 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 9: why you can't find manual transmissions. You can't get a 767 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 9: Toyota Corolla as a manual. It's only automatic. Why Because 768 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 9: Barack Obama said that's the way it is. Now, why 769 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 9: didn't you think there's millions of Americans who would rather 770 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 9: buy a three thousand dollars cheaper car and learned to 771 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 9: drive a stick But you weren't given that permission. The 772 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 9: car manufacturers didn't have a conversation with you, the consumer, 773 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 9: and say. 774 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 2: What do you guys want? 775 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 9: Nope, it was Barack Obama from on high, decided I 776 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 9: have the power to do this, and I am going 777 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 9: to destroy a viable, cost efficient alternative in the automotive industry. 778 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 9: That's just one, probably the biggest example, but one example 779 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 9: of how much damage the Engagement Finding did with no law, 780 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 9: nothing on the books, just Barack Obama. 781 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 5: Considering himself to be the god that he thinks he is. 782 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, who wants to be the totalitarian? Now? Who wants 783 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 2: to be the dictator? 784 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 5: Now? 785 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: Who wants to have all these policies in place that 786 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: allows the government to be in control of manufacturing in 787 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: this company? And I'm glad you brought that point up, 788 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 1: because now that I think about it, I haven't seen 789 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: any new cars that are manual transmissions. I've had many 790 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: cars in my life that were manual transmissions, including one 791 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: that was a three on the tree one time. That 792 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: was Now, that was a lot of fun driving. 793 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 5: Now you're dating yourself much, Bobby. 794 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: I own that car back in the eighties, but it 795 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,479 Speaker 1: was still it was still fun to drive. 796 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 2: But uh, look. 797 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: At the look at there. 798 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 5: Is And that's tragic. 799 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 9: For multiple reasons, but tragic also from just the cost 800 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 9: and affordability. Think of how many appliances you have in 801 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 9: your house that think that break down a lot that 802 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 9: don't do a good job in endangerment finding. So you 803 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 9: have smart dishwashers because that's what Barack Obama wanted you 804 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 9: to have. 805 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 5: And you say, that's funny. 806 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 9: My mom's dishwasher made a boatload of noise, right, but 807 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 9: it was done in thirty minutes. 808 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 5: Now it takes two and a. 809 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 9: Half hours because it's quote unquote efficient. You're a smart dryer, 810 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 9: you're ceiling fans, your your your hot water heaters, your generators, 811 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 9: your air conditioners. All these things suddenly became expensive and 812 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 9: crack because of the endangerment finding because Barack Obama said, 813 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 9: I consider this to be bad, Therefore I have the 814 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 9: power to regulate them out of the marketplace. 815 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 2: This is a war. 816 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 9: This was a war on the American consumer done through 817 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 9: the deep State. And it's the same thing they do 818 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 9: in education, same thing they do in healthcare, same thing 819 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 9: they do in pharmacut Whenever you give the deep state 820 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 9: power over. 821 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 2: You, they will never use it for your good. Daniel Turner. 822 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: I read a book years ago by a woman named 823 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: Dixie Lee Ray, who at one time was the governor 824 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: of Washington State, and she was involved with the international 825 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: environmental and scientific affairs of the United States. And she 826 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: wrote a book called Trashing the Planet, and that was 827 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: really my first introduction to the other side of the 828 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: story of environmental stuff. And one of the first chapter 829 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: of that book is called who Speaks for Science? And 830 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: that is still true today that when it comes to 831 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy Kimmel goes on Late Night TV makes 832 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: fun of these policies. Bill Maher talks about, Hey, why 833 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: don't you just go start the car in your garage, 834 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: and the audience cheers like trained monkeys. Oh yeah, someone's 835 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: going to commit suicide because there is you know, we 836 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 1: have David Muir on ABC. These people don't speak for science, 837 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: they don't speak for truth. They speak for an agenda, 838 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: and that agenda is it does not include the greatness 839 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: of America. 840 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 841 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 9: Absolutely, And these are the conversations that we should be 842 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,280 Speaker 9: having as a consumer society, as American people. 843 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 2: But that was taken away from us. 844 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,240 Speaker 5: That was taken away. 845 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 9: From us because Barack Obama thought he had the right. 846 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 9: And remember he said, I have a I don't need congress. 847 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 9: I have a pen, and I have a phone. And 848 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 9: that was him telling us I have the authority to 849 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 9: do what I want. 850 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 5: Because even if I consider it to be a good 851 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 5: I don't think. 852 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 2: He ever has good intentions. 853 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 9: But let me just try to be a Christian Lenz 854 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 9: start tomorrow. So I'm going to try to be an 855 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 9: even better one tomorrow. Right, but let me just try 856 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,720 Speaker 9: to be a good question to say she had good intentions, 857 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 9: even if you thought he had good intentions. We live 858 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 9: in a society. We live in a country where our 859 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 9: founders two hundred almost one Hudred fifty years ago fought 860 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 9: a revolution because they said, no one person can say 861 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 9: to you, I have authority over you, because it has 862 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 9: been given to me so from above. Right, if you 863 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 9: want to pass a law, I have the right to 864 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 9: contest that law via my representatives. It's why it's hard 865 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 9: to get things passed through the Congress because we fight, 866 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,720 Speaker 9: and that was the system that gave people some voice 867 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 9: in the decisions that were held over them. But again, 868 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 9: this deep state nonsense, it's the same. It's the same 869 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 9: bs of well, you can't put a shed in your backyard, 870 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 9: have you have you? No? No, no, You're not allowed 871 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 9: to add a deck onto your. 872 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:52,760 Speaker 2: Kitchen, no no, no. 873 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,479 Speaker 5: Where do these laws come from. 874 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 9: They came from people who have claimed the authority over you, 875 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 9: and they want to do it even for your own 876 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 9: as they claim for your own good. So getting rid 877 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 9: of the engagement finding is huge, and we celebrate its deaths, 878 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 9: we dance on its grave. 879 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: Dam Yeah, I mean, you are jogging my memory about 880 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: so many things that have happened in the past that 881 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 1: I've sort of forgotten about. And I remember when they 882 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: used to talk about navigable waterways all the time, and 883 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: then that prevented property owners from being able to develop 884 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: their property or build something, or expand their house or whatever, 885 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 1: because there might be a pond or a small creek 886 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 1: that was deemed a navigable waterway, and therefore you couldn't 887 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: interrupt it, you couldn't disturb it. You couldn't. You couldn't 888 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 1: do anything. And that gives the federal government sovereignty over 889 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: private property. And I mean, I mean, you talk about 890 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: infringing on America's rights. And when I look at the 891 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 1: current administration, don't I see them getting away from that? 892 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: And across the board, these sorts of policies, these sorts 893 00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,040 Speaker 1: of ideas are rejected by the left, rejected by Democrats, 894 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 1: and I think the only reason that they want to 895 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: do that is because it takes away power from the 896 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: federal government and they can't have that. 897 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 9: And that exactly, and that is the fight against Donald Trump. 898 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 9: That is the real congressional level establishment Washington DC. 899 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 2: Democrat and Republican. 900 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 9: The real anger and hatred for Donald Trump is because he. 901 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 2: Is taking away their power. 902 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 9: And once government has power, it never gives it up right, 903 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,800 Speaker 9: it never returns. 904 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 2: It back to the people. 905 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 9: You look at the entire legacy of Barack Obama. Obviously 906 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 9: he has the fawning media, so it will be hard 907 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,879 Speaker 9: to judge him historically accurate. You still have the Chris 908 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,439 Speaker 9: Matthews to talk about the thrill up of the leg right. 909 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 9: Barack Obama walked on water and they treated him as such. 910 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 9: But you look at what his legacy is. Look at 911 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 9: his foreign policy legacy, as he called it, leading from behind. 912 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 9: Look at how he left the state of the world. 913 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 9: Look at his environmental legacy, like the engagement finding and 914 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 9: the damage it did to our our energy sector, are 915 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 9: pricing our consumer sector. Look at his healthcare record, look 916 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 9: at the dam we still fight over healthcare. 917 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 2: That was so when you when you. 918 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 5: Kind of objectively take a. 919 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 9: Step back from twenty sixteen and you look at eight 920 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 9: years of Barack Obama, What the hell did that guy do? 921 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 9: That was ever good? Name one thing that you can say, 922 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 9: Thank god Barack Obama did that. His entire legacy is 923 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 9: one of failure, expensive failure, foreign policy failure, moral failure. 924 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 9: He sued a bunch of nuns talk about starting lent tomorrow. 925 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 9: He sues nuns over abortion, and then he goes on these. 926 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 5: TV shows and talks about, Hey, that's not. 927 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 2: Who we are. We come together, we love one another. 928 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 9: A divisive, genuinely bad human being whose entire legacy is 929 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 9: slowly being unraveled by Donald Trump. 930 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you. 931 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: And again you're jogging my memory of going back to 932 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: the to the Obama era and what I used to 933 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: say about Obama is that a lot of his policies 934 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 1: and the things that he talked about were all based 935 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: on the notion that he and the anointed few who 936 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: surrounded him were the ones who knew best, that they 937 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 1: knew best. And I remember thinking, and this takes me 938 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: back to the whole discussion about health care policy. And 939 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: I was with my wife one day and we were 940 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: driving through parts of Appalachia and there was a group 941 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: of Indians on the side of the road and it 942 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: was one of those little state you can pull in 943 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 1: there and get some artifacts or you know, get some 944 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 1: some jewelry and stuff like that, and they were performing 945 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: a little ceremony, and I thought to myself, how does 946 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 1: Barack Obama know what's best for these people? How does 947 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,760 Speaker 1: he know anything about the way they live their lives, 948 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 1: about the way they get their health care, how they 949 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: take care of themselves with their family. But yet he 950 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: claimed to be you know, that him and Michelle and 951 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: Washington d C. They could divine all this information simply 952 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: because I guess, you know, maybe God touched them in 953 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,399 Speaker 1: a certain way, or they just know what was best 954 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: for everyone else and wanted everyone else to do go 955 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 1: along with whatever came down from on high. 956 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 9: And that is the biggest difference between the left and 957 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 9: the right, or one of the biggest differences is that 958 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 9: belief in freedom and individual freedom. And when it comes 959 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 9: to my industry, which is obviously energy. Just look at 960 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 9: the two records of Joe Biden and the acolyte disciple 961 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 9: of Barack Obama and Donald Trump. Joe Biden believes he 962 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 9: knew what was best. He was going to set the prices, 963 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 9: he was going to determine electricity production, he was going 964 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,320 Speaker 9: to determine where you were allowed to drill where you weren't. 965 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 9: And look at what it did to prices, look at 966 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 9: what it did to inflation, look at what it did 967 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 9: to the enemies of the world. 968 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 5: What is Donald Trump's energy policy? 969 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 9: You guys know best. I'm going to get the hell 970 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 9: out of your way. And when you believe in freedom 971 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 9: and free markets, you get more energy at a lower 972 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 9: price point. The accusations of pollution and price gouging. I 973 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 9: mentioned this so many times of your audience. All that 974 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,800 Speaker 9: has disappeared now, and that is the biggest difference between 975 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 9: left and right. Less genuinely believes they know where your 976 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 9: kids should go to school, not you stupid people. I 977 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 9: will tell you what school your kids should go to 978 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 9: because I am the state. I will tell you what 979 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 9: healthcare plan you're allowed to have because I am the state. 980 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 9: We believe in freedom, and freedom scares the crap at 981 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 9: a lot of people, I realize. But when you have freedom, 982 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 9: and you have freedom of freems, you get a better product, 983 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 9: you get more quality, you get lower costs, you get 984 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 9: happier society, and then ultimately you get people who. 985 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 2: Begin to question what the hell I need. 986 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 9: This government for anyway, And maybe that's why. 987 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 2: They don't want freedom. 988 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, more freedom less government, that's a that's a great prescription. 989 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: But again, the Democrats and the left cannot abide any 990 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: of that. Daniel Turner, I'll tell you, this is not 991 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,360 Speaker 1: the way I was expecting this conversation to go today, 992 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 1: But yeah you were. I mean, you just hit on 993 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 1: so many themes that I've been talking about for years 994 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: and years and years. It turned out to be. Yeah, 995 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 1: absolutely awesome. But there's a half a dozen other things 996 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: I could talk to you about. But as usual, our 997 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 1: time goes in the blink of an eye. Daniel Turner, 998 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: Power the future. Keep up the great work, my friend, 999 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 1: and we'll be talking to you again before too long. 1000 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, Dan, thanks for having. 1001 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: Me all right, Thank you Daniel Turner, and check out 1002 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: his website Power the Future, always saying I was going 1003 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,760 Speaker 1: to talk to him about two or three different things 1004 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 1: that he's got on his website right now, but the 1005 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: time goes so fast. It is one twenty five Dan 1006 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 1: Carol for Bill Cunningham, seven hundred WLW. 1007 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 2: Nichris size Mando. I was staying in jail twenty seven years. 1008 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 1: But somehow disciplined pocust line about on the acts of 1009 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,240 Speaker 1: courage will make all of us better. 1010 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 2: He hello, hello, hello, quiet, and I'm scos, I'm broadcasting God, 1011 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 2: so I said. 1012 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 1: We opened the student's Report today with a SoundBite from 1013 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 1: Jesse Jackson. 1014 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 2: Passed away what in eighty two or eighty four today 1015 00:53:59,120 --> 00:53:59,839 Speaker 2: something like that. 1016 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: I remember when he was here in Cincinnati one time 1017 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,760 Speaker 1: and he was a guest on the Jerry Springer Show. 1018 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,240 Speaker 1: Really yeah, when Jerry was initially when his show began, 1019 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 1: he was actually shooting. 1020 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 2: He had the before the show went before. 1021 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 1: All the crazy kind of stuffy and then and so 1022 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: he actually shot the show here at Cincinnati and Jesse 1023 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: Jackson came in to be a guest on the show. 1024 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,399 Speaker 1: And and at that time when Jerry Springer was first 1025 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 1: starting his highly successful television show, right, he said that 1026 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't going to get involved in all that crazy stuff, 1027 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 1: you know, like when Herado got his nose broken with 1028 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: a dude throwing a chair. Yeah, he said he wasn't. 1029 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 1: He said he wasn't going to do a show like that. 1030 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: But what happened, Oops, went the other way, didn't it? 1031 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, you know, you know what what did 1032 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 2: the talk in there? 1033 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 9: You know? 1034 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 1: And then you know, twenty years later, the guy's flying 1035 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 1: around on a private jet, living uh lomer, living big 1036 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: Jerry Springer, God rest the soul and God. 1037 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 2: Rest the soul of Jesse Jackson, Amen Dan Carroll, The 1038 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 2: Stood Reporters a proud service of our local Tamestar Heating 1039 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 2: and air conditioning dealers. Temestar quality you could feel in 1040 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 2: beautiful Southeastern Indiana called Joe ex Stein at Xstein Heating 1041 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 2: and Cool to Get eight one to two, nine three 1042 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 2: to two twenty twenty six sport. And we also want 1043 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,359 Speaker 2: to thank Lear's Prime Market for our lunch today. Learsprime 1044 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 2: dot com. Lears Prime always a cut above and don't 1045 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 2: forget available through Lent on Friday. Starting Friday, through Lent 1046 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:42,240 Speaker 2: the world famous Lear's Prime Market letting fist sandwich. 1047 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 1: I love it when they bring those in here. That's 1048 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: one in town on the marble rye. Correct, Yeah, that's 1049 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:47,240 Speaker 1: good stuff. 1050 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 9: Man. 1051 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 2: Is actually winter games today? Well, I guess they've they've been. 1052 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 2: I guess it's been snowing in certain areas over there 1053 00:55:54,160 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 2: in Italy. Imagine that. Yes, the winter and it stops competition. 1054 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: Why can't Why can't you compete when it's snowing on 1055 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: the ground. 1056 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 2: I mean the snow all the time they ski jump 1057 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 2: and they going through a blizzard. It's not good. You 1058 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 2: probably end up in I would think maybe you fly 1059 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 2: a little bit better with the snow coming out. Well, 1060 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 2: you know a couple of guys from Cincinnati, Connor Current 1061 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 2: and Quinn Daylinger is it Dillinger Dellinger Dellinger? Yeah, all right. 1062 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm friends with his parents, all right. 1063 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: When they lived here in Cincinnati, we uh, the US 1064 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: and the Dellingers knew each other, all right, Uh, pardon. 1065 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,320 Speaker 2: Me for that, that's all right. And they he's supposed 1066 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 2: to be part of the uh Men's freestyle aerials competition. 1067 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 2: But uh, I guess it's coming up later today. 1068 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: They they said they postponed it to tomorrow, Okay, because 1069 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to I wanted to see the you know, 1070 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati kid, and they're gonna they reset it for tomorrow. 1071 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 2: And Connor Currents from originally from Sharonville that Nick Kepper. 1072 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 2: There's a scheduled tomorrow to go in the half pipe competition. 1073 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 2: The women's ice hockey gold medal game is Thursday at 1074 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 2: one USA and Canada and the men's hockey team in 1075 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,280 Speaker 2: action tomorrow in qualifying playoffs. 1076 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 1: Right. David Murr of ABC News said that the United 1077 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: States had the power to control climate in this country. 1078 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 1: Maybe they could use some of that power to control 1079 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 1: the climate over in Italy and make it stop snowing 1080 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: so they can get the games out. 1081 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 2: If Jennifer Ketchmark over there, well, I mean, I didn't know. 1082 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know that the United States had that science 1083 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 1: and that technology big be able to control the dagone climate. 1084 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 2: Big Baseball news Dan Carroll Tony Clark is planning to 1085 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 2: resign an executive director of the Major League Baseball Players Union. 1086 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,959 Speaker 2: How about that when the ESPN Clark's reaction Nation comes 1087 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 2: on the wake of the Eastern District of New York's 1088 00:57:53,480 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 2: investigation into alleged financial improprieties at the union. What and 1089 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 2: the the union goes around and talks to all the teams, Yeah, 1090 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 2: you know each spring because it you know, we used 1091 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 2: to go there and at Sarasota and those guys are 1092 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 2: in there for like an hour and a half meeting 1093 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 2: with the union and there was nobody could be in 1094 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 2: there except the players and them, and that was it. 1095 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 2: Alleged they were financial improprieties. WHOA the union scheduled for 1096 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 2: his first meeting with the players this spring today with 1097 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 2: the Guardians, but that was abruptly canceled. What WHOA? That 1098 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 2: doesn't sound good. 1099 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 11: Se No, doesn't so uh and the union that they 1100 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 11: don't you know, they don't know what's going to happen 1101 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 11: now because, uh, the current contract is up after this year. 1102 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 2: So don't tell me there's going to be another baseball strike. 1103 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 2: Come on. Soccer f C Cincinnati opens the season tomorrow 1104 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 2: Tomorrow night, and the Dominican repubt public that way against 1105 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 2: O and m FC in the first round of the 1106 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 2: Champions Cup at seven thirty with the action on Fox 1107 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 2: Sports thirteen to sixty. Which way are you pointing that way? 1108 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:17,440 Speaker 2: I don't think that's south? Whatever then that way? I 1109 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 2: think south? That way. I think the south is the 1110 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 2: exact opposite way of the way you point it. So 1111 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 2: Bengals Update brought to you by Good Spirits, Wine and 1112 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 2: Tobacco and Party Town thirteen giving the locations in northern Kentucky. 1113 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 2: The window to place the franchise tag on the National 1114 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 2: Football League player opens today and ends March the third, 1115 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 2: So for the second consecutive year, the Bengals have a 1116 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 2: decision to make. Who are they going to tag t Hendrickson? 1117 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 2: Do they do it or let them walk? Do the 1118 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,919 Speaker 2: teams have to tag someone they don't have to tag? 1119 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 2: Do they have to? I don't. I don't think you 1120 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 2: know that's the See the current deal. His current deal 1121 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 2: with the Bengals expires at four pm March eleventh, when 1122 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 2: the new league year begins. So that's when they have 1123 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 2: happy New Year down at you know, with the bulp 1124 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 2: with the ball dropping again and Ryan Seacrest in the 1125 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 2: NFL meeting. Unless the Bengals place a franchise tag on 1126 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 2: him before or don't re sign him, he will no 1127 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 2: longer be under their control. So it's all up to 1128 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 2: the Bengals now to see what happens. Well, I'll see 1129 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 2: what happens. Lots of college basketball tonight, Villanova and Xavier 1130 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 2: at six here on seven hundred WLW number twenty two, 1131 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 2: Miami at twenty five, and oh, the Red Hawks are 1132 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 2: on the road up against UMass. The minute Men and 1133 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 2: the Red Hawks went overtime at Mallett Hall a couple 1134 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Remember that Georgia in Kentucky the Cats 1135 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 2: and the Dogs go out it at seven thirty on 1136 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. Let's see. Also, congrats to Kendall Northern 1137 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 2: at a Summit Country Day for being named the Ohio 1138 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 2: Gatorade Volleyball Player of the Year. Cooper High School's uh 1139 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 2: Paul Van Lanningham is the Kentucky boys cross country runner 1140 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 2: of the Year. Also now in golf, in golf, what's 1141 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 2: happening in golf? Cincinnati's Mcinteewak Country Club, which is owned 1142 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 2: by Dale Donald and Mark Sheer and Mark Okay, we 1143 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 2: weren't supposed to say that, but they set the hosts 1144 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 2: all the time. They set to host the twenty twenty 1145 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 2: six Kroger Queen City Championship presented by P and G 1146 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 2: May eleventh through the seventeenth, and tickets are on sale 1147 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 2: now and you can become a volunteer. Just a register 1148 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 2: now open for the Queen City Championship at Queen City 1149 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 2: LPGA dot com A great golf course. Amen so so. 1150 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 2: And then let's see the back to the Olympics. Let's 1151 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 2: see Team USA took home another medal. Let's see they 1152 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 2: got a they got a silver and team per suit today. 1153 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 2: But the rest of it not good today for the Americans. 1154 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 2: What is team pursuit? That's that speed skating stuff they 1155 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 2: do that on the big track. Regular guy with a 1156 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 2: big track is where they go in opposite directions. 1157 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 1: I guess I had the wrong channel and I was watching, 1158 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: so I was watching. I was watching curling. Men's curling 1159 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,920 Speaker 1: took took a little beat down at the hands of 1160 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 1: China today. 1161 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 2: So they got it. And Norway's got some games, man, 1162 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 2: They're going to make it the metal round. Norway's up 1163 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 2: to uh I think thirty thirty total medals. The USA 1164 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 2: has got to get with it. 1165 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: The curling team's got to get it together. The women 1166 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 1: are looking pretty good. 1167 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 2: You know they're like five and two rest of the 1168 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 2: biathlon and all this cross country skiing. We stink, well, 1169 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,640 Speaker 2: you can't. You can't be good at everything. Yes you can, 1170 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 2: according to that trumpter, the Trumpster ought to just say 1171 01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 2: Americans win all the time. 1172 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Deck with it, So seg I'm told by by our 1173 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 1: buddy Adam Byrd, I'm out there a state representative from 1174 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 1: out there in Claremont County that they had sat X 1175 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 1: head coach Steve Speckt and they had the Superintendent of Mason, 1176 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper, testifying today in support of his bill that 1177 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 1: would prohibit n I L for high school athletes. 1178 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 2: See what happens. So you got specked up there saying 1179 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 2: na bab nah. Guy from Mason to home and the 1180 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 2: girements and the transmitter. 1181 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 1: Saying no babanah. These high school kids want to get paid, though, 1182 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 1: don't they. I think they already are, aren't they. 1183 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 2: I think it's probably already happening. I think they let 1184 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,600 Speaker 2: that happen. But I think it's going to go to 1185 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 2: t ball. It's gonna go to flag football, it's gonna 1186 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 2: go to your your league and pickleball. Everything. 1187 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 1: Rocky's gonna have to cut some contracts with his boys. 1188 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 1: I know, do you want to play rock to rock 1189 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: will be leaving, but you want to play on your team? 1190 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: But you got to come up with the dough of 1191 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 1: the ray and the meat. 1192 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 2: He's just living on the kids, so I don't know. 1193 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 2: He's gonna start cutting some checks. So I don't know. 1194 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting, Dan Carroll and when this, when that 1195 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,200 Speaker 2: all comes up with high school football or high school 1196 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 2: sports in general, that's going to open Pandora's box. Oh 1197 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. Hopefully a lot of these schools will have 1198 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 2: kids that that are still around him at least field 1199 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 2: a team, because you know, I mean, if you're you're 1200 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 2: if you if so and so is going to give 1201 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 2: you so much, you're off to them, See you would 1202 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 2: want to be you? Well, I mean that that's what 1203 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:43,640 Speaker 2: who was? Who was? I? 1204 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 1: I think I was listening to Wes Miller talk about 1205 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 1: it the other day and he said, it's just it's 1206 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 1: just all about the money, right, Oh yeah, yeah, that's 1207 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 1: all it is that the kids and and Dan Horde 1208 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 1: had a good idea. He said, look, man, we got 1209 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: to do something about all the you know, the transfer 1210 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 1: portal and all all these transfers allow a kid to 1211 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,560 Speaker 1: transfer one time, and then after that you got to 1212 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 1: sit out. Do you want to transfer, go ahead and transfer, 1213 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 1: But unless you know, something happens, like your coach gets fired, 1214 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 1: so someone dies, then then you gotta you gotta sit out. 1215 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think that's a good idea. 1216 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 2: Somebody said the other day that Nick Saban ought to 1217 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 2: become the king of NCAA college football. 1218 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,040 Speaker 1: That's not a bad idea. So but Calipari says he 1219 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 1: knows how to solve it. Him in charge of basketball 1220 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 1: to what he has to say. 1221 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 2: But then, you know, you were thinking football and basketball, 1222 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 2: what about all these other sports? You got women's basketball, 1223 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 2: women's softball, you got baseball, you know, I mean, it's unbelievable. 1224 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 2: But and you know, and then a lot of these schools, 1225 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 2: you know, how much how much does all this travel 1226 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 2: cost him? How much is these team? You know, the 1227 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,680 Speaker 2: Big Ten? Now you got to travel to Oregon, you 1228 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 2: gotta travel to Washington. Then you come all the way. 1229 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 2: But I mean, Oregon's gotta go to Maryland, Washington's got 1230 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 2: to go to uh Rutgers. I mean, you know, I 1231 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 2: don't know, it's crazy. You know, we had Grand House 1232 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 2: on the show, and the same thing with UC. I 1233 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,520 Speaker 2: mean UC He's got the same thing at the Big twelve. 1234 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 2: They got to travel all over the place. Yeah, Xavier 1235 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 2: is not bad. I mean, you know they don't have 1236 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 2: to go coast to coast or nothing. But uh, I 1237 01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:25,439 Speaker 2: don't know, that's crazy. 1238 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,320 Speaker 1: I've changed in too many time zones to play in 1239 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 1: that cost. But a grand House of the House Settlement 1240 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 1: told me that. You know, when he when he first started, 1241 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,040 Speaker 1: when he first sued the NCAA, he just wanted it 1242 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 1: to make it available to athletes that if they could 1243 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 1: market themselves, if they could make name, make money on 1244 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 1: their own name, their own image and own likeness, right, 1245 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 1: then they would have the ability to do that if 1246 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 1: someone instead. 1247 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 2: Of getting into a bidding war with schools. 1248 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 1: If someone wanted to pay them to do a car commercial, right, 1249 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: and then they would have the ability to do that 1250 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 1: if they Because he was on the podcast, He's got 1251 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 1: a podcast with his brother and they and they had 1252 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 1: people that wanted to sponsor the podcast, but because of 1253 01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 1: the NCAA rules, he couldn't do it. I had to 1254 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 1: say saything like this is a great opportunity for me 1255 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,160 Speaker 1: to make some money, but I can't do it because 1256 01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 1: of these uh, these idiotic rules of the of the NCAA, 1257 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,520 Speaker 1: And so they just let the thing get completely out 1258 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,720 Speaker 1: of control. What about Michael Jordan and the Daytona five. 1259 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 2: Hundred got himself? He got it's his birthday today, he's 1260 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 2: sixty three and he got a nice birthday present on Sunday? 1261 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 2: Now is is he is? 1262 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:30,080 Speaker 9: He? 1263 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 2: He owns that the team Denny Hamlin owned twenty three eleven, 1264 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 2: twenty three eleven, and they sued NASCAR over the winner. 1265 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 2: To make it a little bit, they had the unit 1266 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,640 Speaker 2: the unis to sue NASCAR after seventy five years of 1267 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 2: being a total monopoly, and they won. What was the 1268 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 2: lawsuit about? Just over just NASCAR's ability to do whatever 1269 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,120 Speaker 2: they wanted to do for seventy some years in the 1270 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 2: way they ran the exactly the money and everything else, 1271 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 2: and they said, wait a minute, this is not right. 1272 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:06,000 Speaker 2: So that twenty three eleven in front Row mot Motorsports 1273 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 2: got together sued NASCAR and the ugliness was out in 1274 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:14,480 Speaker 2: court called one of the Hall of Fame Richard Childers, 1275 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 2: a redneck and a hillbilly and stupid, and a memo 1276 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 2: from one of the top people in Steve Phelps, one 1277 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 2: of the top people in NASCAR, can't do that. But 1278 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 2: you know, they offered to settle and everything else, and 1279 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:31,280 Speaker 2: they said nope. So the ugliness came out. And I'll 1280 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 2: be darned if it wasn't Michael Jordan and Jim France 1281 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:39,240 Speaker 2: shaking hands after the Daytona five hundred. How ironic I saw. 1282 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,080 Speaker 1: I saw video. He was jumping up and down like 1283 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 1: the right kid when he won that. Amen, seg we 1284 01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 1: got to run the broadcast. Sheriff is telling us, we gotta. 1285 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 2: Go, Dan, Carol and Hotter. Of a nice day here 1286 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 2: in the tries date after the fog. No more. We 1287 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 2: leave you with the immortal words of the STEO report. 1288 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:59,080 Speaker 2: Would and should the US actually commit US troops to 1289 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,720 Speaker 2: defend Taiwan if China were to move. 1290 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 9: You know, I think that. 1291 01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:12,760 Speaker 2: This is such a you know, I think that this 1292 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 2: is a. 1293 01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,440 Speaker 6: This is of course, a very long standing. 1294 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:25,120 Speaker 3: Policy of the United States, and I think what we 1295 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 3: are hoping for is that we want to make sure 1296 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,639 Speaker 3: that we never get to that point, and we want 1297 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,600 Speaker 3: to make sure that we are moving in all of 1298 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:38,639 Speaker 3: our economic research and our global positions to avoid any 1299 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,559 Speaker 3: such confrontation and for that question to even arise. 1300 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: That's some of the brilliant from Acasio Cortes over the weekend, 1301 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,320 Speaker 1: and some people think that that woman ought to be 1302 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 1: our next president. 1303 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 2: God help us. Amens seven hundred WLW. 1304 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 1: Seven hundred WLW two seven On this Tuesday afternoon, Dan 1305 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 1: Carroll sitting in for Bill Cunningham, great American enjoying some 1306 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,120 Speaker 1: time off. It is really my great pleasure to welcome 1307 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 1: in this next guest. I'm looking forward to speaking with 1308 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,400 Speaker 1: him for some time. Frank DeVito is a senior counsel 1309 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:28,519 Speaker 1: and director of Content at NAPLE Legal Institute, graduated from 1310 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 1: Sacred Heart University and Quinnipiac University, and he is the 1311 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,519 Speaker 1: author of a book that has just been released. 1312 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 2: The book is entitled JD. 1313 01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 1: Vance and the Future of the Republican Party and Frank DeVito, 1314 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,160 Speaker 1: it is my honor to welcome you into seven hundred WLW. 1315 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 2: How are you today, Dan? 1316 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 8: Thanks so much for having me. It's a pleasure to 1317 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:49,680 Speaker 8: be here. I'm doing well. 1318 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great to have you on. I really think JD. 1319 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 1: Vance is an interesting character. For so long, so many 1320 01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,560 Speaker 1: of us knew him here in Ohio simply because of 1321 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 1: his book Hillbilly Elogy and the movie that was a 1322 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,360 Speaker 1: smash hit movie, and we thought we knew jd Vance then, 1323 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,920 Speaker 1: but then he decided to get into politics, and I 1324 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,800 Speaker 1: think we're seeing and learning a whole lot more about jd. 1325 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 2: Vance. 1326 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 1: If if you had to pick out one thing about 1327 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,760 Speaker 1: jd Vance, that may and I think there's a lot 1328 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 1: of interesting facets to this guy. We're going to talk 1329 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,040 Speaker 1: about that. But if you had to pick out one thing, 1330 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 1: is is it possible to pick out one thing about 1331 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 1: jd Vance that makes him interesting to you more than 1332 01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:28,599 Speaker 1: anything else? 1333 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 12: Oh that's a hard question. I mean, I think the 1334 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,120 Speaker 12: first thing that comes to mind is just his life. Right, 1335 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 12: we have this this fractured political issue, which makes sense, right, 1336 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,920 Speaker 12: We're fifty states, span thousands of miles, a lot of 1337 01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,920 Speaker 12: differences around the country. But to have somebody on this 1338 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,680 Speaker 12: level of the political stage who's got, you know, the 1339 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,760 Speaker 12: background in Middle America and grew up poor with a 1340 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,200 Speaker 12: lot of family issues, that had really seen the depths 1341 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 12: of what you know, de industrialization and the breakdown of 1342 01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 12: the family and drug addiction and all that has done 1343 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,559 Speaker 12: to so many ordinary Americans. But then for that same 1344 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,439 Speaker 12: guy to go up through the Marine Corps and through 1345 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 12: Yale Law School and then Silicon Valley and then back 1346 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,680 Speaker 12: to Ohio. I think he just brings a depth of 1347 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,719 Speaker 12: experience and understanding of this country from the ordinary citizen 1348 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,599 Speaker 12: to the highest elites in the country. He really has 1349 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,479 Speaker 12: a unique insight that I think you can really say 1350 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 12: about no other politician on this level. 1351 01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's more than just his educational 1352 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,920 Speaker 1: background that he brings to his everyday life. I mean 1353 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 1: it seems to me that growing up in Middletown, Ohio, 1354 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 1: and the way his life unfolded as a young boy, 1355 01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 1: I think that it's safe, at least from my perspective. 1356 01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,840 Speaker 1: I think that he never really loses touch with that, 1357 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,599 Speaker 1: and he's never let himself get There's so many people 1358 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,760 Speaker 1: who go to Washington and get infected by Washington, get 1359 01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 1: infected by whatever it is. It turns those people into 1360 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,800 Speaker 1: someone different than they used to be. But jd Vance, 1361 01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 1: at least from my perspective, that has. 1362 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's right. I mean you can see 1363 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,280 Speaker 8: it in Hillbilly Elogy and then in some of. 1364 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 12: His writings after the book was written, right where he 1365 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,360 Speaker 12: goes to Yale Law School, but he very much brings 1366 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:15,320 Speaker 12: his his normal, you know, working class American background with him, 1367 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,599 Speaker 12: and he feels very out of place and sees how 1368 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,760 Speaker 12: stratified the social structure is, how different a boy like 1369 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,680 Speaker 12: him and the you know, the cultivated elites that he 1370 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,680 Speaker 12: was going to school with are. Then he goes to 1371 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,200 Speaker 12: Silicon Valley and he sees this massive disconnect between the 1372 01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 12: people he's working with who have so much hope for 1373 01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,760 Speaker 12: the future and how bright everything is, and he's, well, 1374 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:36,600 Speaker 12: that's not that's not my experience. 1375 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 2: So I think you're right. 1376 01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:41,320 Speaker 12: As he's risen into really the highest of elite society, 1377 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,360 Speaker 12: he is, I don't see that he's ever really left 1378 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,759 Speaker 12: his middletown roots. I think he's still the same ordinary 1379 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,000 Speaker 12: American that's such a valuable experience, like you said, to 1380 01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 12: bring with you to Washington, DC. 1381 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, when when Donald Trump picked him to be his 1382 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,640 Speaker 1: running mate and become vice president, I really thought it 1383 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:04,120 Speaker 1: was such a good choice because on just one aspect 1384 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 1: of that was that he had not been in the 1385 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:11,720 Speaker 1: Senate that long. I think he was wildly underestimated by 1386 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:16,120 Speaker 1: those on the left. And I think that because of 1387 01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,080 Speaker 1: what he went through when he initially ran for the Senate. 1388 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 1: He had already come out said he was a never Trumper, 1389 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,120 Speaker 1: didn't care for the policies of Trump, didn't think Trump 1390 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,760 Speaker 1: was qualified to be president. And then after he saw 1391 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:33,599 Speaker 1: Trump in office, Jade Vance was secure in his own 1392 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,439 Speaker 1: knowledge of himself and the way he thought about things 1393 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 1: to say, Look, I looked at Trump, I looked at 1394 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,080 Speaker 1: his policies. I see where they are good for America. 1395 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 1: I have changed my mind on this. And when he 1396 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,439 Speaker 1: ran for the Senate, he went through an absolute gauntlet 1397 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,960 Speaker 1: here in the state of Ohio. Every he went to, 1398 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:57,640 Speaker 1: every interview, every television market, everywhere he would go, he 1399 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:02,040 Speaker 1: got hammered relentlessly with the video of him talking about 1400 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,760 Speaker 1: Trump and in all these negative ways. But yet he 1401 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 1: was able to overcome that. And I think that baptism 1402 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:13,040 Speaker 1: of fire served him well as a vice presidential candidate 1403 01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,640 Speaker 1: because he's already been through it. And so when this 1404 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 1: happened on the national level and you had all these 1405 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,719 Speaker 1: national networks that were attacking him for his previous views 1406 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,920 Speaker 1: about Trump, he already had those battle scars. Yeah, I mean, 1407 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,560 Speaker 1: he knew how to handle all those questions. And I 1408 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,439 Speaker 1: think the American people really saw the authenticity in him 1409 01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,519 Speaker 1: that continues on to this day. 1410 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,559 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think that's right. And you know, one thing 1411 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,840 Speaker 12: I would say, there's a lot of natural grift. 1412 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 9: Right. 1413 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,479 Speaker 12: Trump comes onto the scene and completely changes the party, 1414 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,679 Speaker 12: and so a lot of people just go with the flow. 1415 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,920 Speaker 12: They were against Trump, but they want to stay in powers. 1416 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,360 Speaker 12: Now they're for Trump, and a lot of people still 1417 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,639 Speaker 12: kind of assume that Vance is just one of them. 1418 01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:54,480 Speaker 8: You know, an opportunist. 1419 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,320 Speaker 12: But it's actually my probably my favorite chapter that I 1420 01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,719 Speaker 12: wrote in the book is about how Vance comes around 1421 01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:01,719 Speaker 12: to Ronald Trump, and you've. 1422 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:02,120 Speaker 2: Got it right. 1423 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 8: I think one of the interesting insights he makes about this. 1424 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 12: He was talking to The New York Times in a 1425 01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,600 Speaker 12: podcast interview during the twenty twenty four election, and he 1426 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:11,920 Speaker 12: said something really profound. 1427 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:13,639 Speaker 8: I think to explain the change. 1428 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,760 Speaker 12: He said, you know, it's not so much that I've 1429 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 12: changed on my political convictions, right, I was a conservative 1430 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 12: when I was never Trump. I'm still a conservative with 1431 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,759 Speaker 12: the same priorities and the same concerns for America. 1432 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:28,479 Speaker 8: But what changed is, as a young, you know, young 1433 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 8: person on. 1434 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 12: The scene here in the political landscape, he was a 1435 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,960 Speaker 12: lot more optimistic and maybe naive about the state of 1436 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,479 Speaker 12: America's institutions. Right, So he says, Okay, if things are 1437 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,200 Speaker 12: they're kind of bad, they've swung to the left. But 1438 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,680 Speaker 12: if largely are our media, our corporations, our government agencies 1439 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,480 Speaker 12: are largely healthy. 1440 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:46,880 Speaker 2: Then Trump is dangerous. Right. 1441 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,479 Speaker 12: He's like you're trying to put out a candle with 1442 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,800 Speaker 12: the fire hose, he said. As he grew and as 1443 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 12: he watched the political landscape and what was going on, 1444 01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,360 Speaker 12: he came around to realize that Trump was right about 1445 01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,680 Speaker 12: how bad America's institutions are. So if the problem is that, 1446 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 12: then maybe Trump is actually the right remedy. 1447 01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:04,200 Speaker 8: So I think it's a really. 1448 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,479 Speaker 12: Fascinating way to view how people have come around to Trump. 1449 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 12: It's not so much that we've changed and become a 1450 01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 12: different kind of political conservative. It's just maybe we realize 1451 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,519 Speaker 12: Trump was right about how bad things are. 1452 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, do the left in the media in this country 1453 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:23,599 Speaker 1: still underestimate Vance, much to their chagrette. Whenever he goes 1454 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,839 Speaker 1: on the Sunday shows or sits down for an interview 1455 01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:31,599 Speaker 1: with NBC or CBS or ABC, he usually winds up 1456 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,680 Speaker 1: owning them, and they still roll out the gotcha questions 1457 01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 1: and the questions that they expect him to fall flat 1458 01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:42,120 Speaker 1: on but it doesn't happen. Do they still underestimate him? 1459 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 2: Do you think? 1460 01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,360 Speaker 8: I think so on a lot of levels. 1461 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,120 Speaker 12: I think first of all, it's I mean, the guy 1462 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:49,760 Speaker 12: is just brilliant, you know, you see the way he 1463 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,760 Speaker 12: thinks on his feet. I even most of my book 1464 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,080 Speaker 12: was going back reading all of his writings, the essays 1465 01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,559 Speaker 12: he wrote, the speeches he gave mostly before he became 1466 01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,240 Speaker 12: a candidate for anything. The guy is brilliant, uniquely insight full, 1467 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,519 Speaker 12: very quick on his feet. There's no news anchor who's 1468 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,479 Speaker 12: going to get the best of him. So I do 1469 01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,120 Speaker 12: think they underestimate him. And I think that's translating into 1470 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 12: the political landscape as well. You know, there's this sense that, well, 1471 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,519 Speaker 12: they do this to every candidate, so it's kind of tired, right, 1472 01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 12: they make whoever the Republican leader is into some far 1473 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:17,200 Speaker 12: right monster or whatever. 1474 01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,280 Speaker 8: But Vance is a formidable candidate. 1475 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,679 Speaker 12: Right now, he's the VP, which is a hard position 1476 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,360 Speaker 12: to be in, right, you have to carry water for 1477 01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 12: the president. But as I assume he will announce in 1478 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,080 Speaker 12: the next year or so that he's running for president, 1479 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:31,880 Speaker 12: and I think he'll be given a little bit more 1480 01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,599 Speaker 12: leeway by the Trump people to be his own man 1481 01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,639 Speaker 12: and his own candidate. I think we're going to see 1482 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,439 Speaker 12: a really formidable candidate emerge. 1483 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 8: And then, by the way, it's. 1484 01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,240 Speaker 12: Important to remember that the presidential election is not a 1485 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,800 Speaker 12: popularity contest. It's an electoral vote. Right, So while people say, oh, 1486 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:51,320 Speaker 12: he's far right, he's not palatable to this or that demographic, 1487 01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:55,400 Speaker 12: He's going to play really well in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan. 1488 01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,280 Speaker 12: I mean, this is this is a guy who really 1489 01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,519 Speaker 12: understands this ross gone from Pennsylvania, so this is my 1490 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:05,080 Speaker 12: territory too. So I think underestimating him, either intellectually or politically, 1491 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,240 Speaker 12: is a real mistake that I hope they keep making. 1492 01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1493 01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,560 Speaker 1: I look at Trump in his first term and he 1494 01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,120 Speaker 1: had Mike Pence as his vice president, and I really 1495 01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,280 Speaker 1: thought at the time, and I still do, I really 1496 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't have anything bad or derogatory to say about 1497 01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,000 Speaker 1: Mike Pence. I thought Mike Pence was a good vice president. 1498 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,679 Speaker 1: I thought he was extremely loyal to Trump. I thought 1499 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,080 Speaker 1: he was a great balance to Trump as far as 1500 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,640 Speaker 1: just Trump's manner and his style of doing business, and 1501 01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,320 Speaker 1: Mike Pence was a great balance to him. I thought 1502 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:42,679 Speaker 1: Pence was good at articulating the Trump vision for America, 1503 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,600 Speaker 1: But then I look at JD. Vance, and Jade Vance is, 1504 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,240 Speaker 1: to my way of thinking, taking that to a whole 1505 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 1: new level. I think he's got loyalty to Trump, but 1506 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,280 Speaker 1: yet I think he's able to convey the message that 1507 01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:57,479 Speaker 1: he's got his own ideas about things, and how he's 1508 01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,479 Speaker 1: able to make that align with what with what the 1509 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:01,240 Speaker 1: president thinks. 1510 01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:03,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, you know. 1511 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,519 Speaker 12: I think it was a really important pick for a 1512 01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,360 Speaker 12: lot of reasons because you mentioned Mike Pence, and at 1513 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,680 Speaker 12: the time, right Trump had blasted onto the scene, a 1514 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 12: lot of conservatives didn't trust him. Right, He's formerly, you know, 1515 01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,760 Speaker 12: Democrat leaning New Yorker, and who is this guy who's 1516 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,360 Speaker 12: just taken over the Republican parties. So I think Pence 1517 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,240 Speaker 12: was very much a pick to satisfy, you know, the 1518 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:25,160 Speaker 12: Christian right, the old. 1519 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:26,000 Speaker 8: Guard within the party. 1520 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:27,560 Speaker 12: It was a different time in the party and it 1521 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,400 Speaker 12: was maybe a wise pick electorally, But you look at 1522 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,760 Speaker 12: twenty twenty four and Trump he doesn't pick anybody with 1523 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,920 Speaker 12: a lot of political experience. He doesn't pick someone who's 1524 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,640 Speaker 12: black or Latino or a woman, or who shores up 1525 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 12: a swing state or anything like that. He picks somebody 1526 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:46,360 Speaker 12: who's you know, young, talented from a reliably red state. Now, 1527 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:50,479 Speaker 12: thanks be to God, what was the purpose of that pick? 1528 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 12: And the only thing I can see is is Trump 1529 01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,320 Speaker 12: is potentially cultivating talent to pick his successor to the 1530 01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,479 Speaker 12: party in the movement, because why else would you pick Vance? 1531 01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, good question. Let me ask you about this when 1532 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,519 Speaker 1: it comes to jd. Vance in the pro life movement. 1533 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:09,680 Speaker 1: He did this pasted Pro life March in d C. 1534 01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,240 Speaker 1: What two or three weekends ago. He came out and 1535 01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,800 Speaker 1: he made a very powerful speech. And what he has 1536 01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,000 Speaker 1: always told the pro life movement is that you have 1537 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:23,040 Speaker 1: a friend in the White House. And it happened so 1538 01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:28,200 Speaker 1: many times. I think that different politicians get elected on 1539 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:32,880 Speaker 1: at least partially a pro life platform or a pro 1540 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,479 Speaker 1: life plank in their platform, and then they tend to 1541 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,360 Speaker 1: stray from that they once they get into office, they 1542 01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,599 Speaker 1: don't stand as strong on that particular plank as they might. 1543 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:43,519 Speaker 2: But jd. 1544 01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,519 Speaker 1: Vance has not wavered at all on that. Is that 1545 01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:50,160 Speaker 1: more Is that more of of of JD Vance or 1546 01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:54,040 Speaker 1: is that more of Donald Trumper? Or they both to 1547 01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,599 Speaker 1: my way of thinking it might be fair to say 1548 01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:00,280 Speaker 1: that they're both very much aligned on the the pro 1549 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:00,880 Speaker 1: life issue. 1550 01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, I would say if there's a difference, it's that 1551 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,200 Speaker 12: I would trust Vance more on the pro life issue 1552 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:07,680 Speaker 12: than Trump. And this is why I think if you 1553 01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:10,559 Speaker 12: look at Trump's policy priorities, he came in very consistent 1554 01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 12: the trade deals, the open border, there were a couple 1555 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,680 Speaker 12: of issues that he was very personally adamant about that 1556 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 12: were necessary to save the country, right, and so everything 1557 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,880 Speaker 12: else in the conservative movement, I think he was fairly transactional. 1558 01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 12: I don't say that in a bad way, but he 1559 01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,400 Speaker 12: knew that he had to keep the pro life based 1560 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 12: satisfied and he's done a lot. But I think Vance 1561 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,920 Speaker 12: is committed on a personal level to this issue as 1562 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 12: he's a Catholic convert. 1563 01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,760 Speaker 8: He's spoken very eloquently about the unborn child being a 1564 01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:38,400 Speaker 8: human life. 1565 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,240 Speaker 12: And so while they're both political realists, and you kind 1566 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,240 Speaker 12: of need to be because right now we've lost this 1567 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,519 Speaker 12: issue culturally. And I say we because I'm an adamant 1568 01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 12: pro lifer, but we don't have the numbers. Right If 1569 01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:54,320 Speaker 12: we passed an abortion ban at Congress tomorrow, there'd. 1570 01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:55,360 Speaker 8: Be a constitutional Amendment. 1571 01:22:55,400 --> 01:23:00,920 Speaker 12: There's just only so much political appetite for restrictive life laws, 1572 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,200 Speaker 12: as tragic as that is. So I think we can 1573 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:07,160 Speaker 12: count on Vance to be ideologically committed to the pro 1574 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,920 Speaker 12: life movement and prudent to do whatever he things can 1575 01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,200 Speaker 12: be done politically that can actually hold. 1576 01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1577 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,880 Speaker 1: I uh, And I mean there's God, I'm looking at 1578 01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:19,720 Speaker 1: all the different chapters of your book right now. I mean, 1579 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:23,400 Speaker 1: there's so many different things. As a family man, H J. D. 1580 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:27,040 Speaker 1: Van says, uh, he he and Usha have withstood some 1581 01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,960 Speaker 1: of the most ugliest muck raking that you could expect 1582 01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 1: from the national media talking about their personal life. And 1583 01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,879 Speaker 1: I think he's dealt with that in the best way possible. 1584 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 1: And he hasn't gone overboard on any of his his 1585 01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,400 Speaker 1: criticism of that, but yet he's done it. He's been forceful, 1586 01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,720 Speaker 1: but he's been He's done it with a little bit 1587 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,519 Speaker 1: of a smile on his face, and he it seems 1588 01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,600 Speaker 1: their attempts to get under his skin have have not 1589 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,720 Speaker 1: found any purchase. And I think that's uh, you know, 1590 01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,360 Speaker 1: I think that accrues great to him and says a 1591 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:02,240 Speaker 1: lot about who he is. 1592 01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:04,080 Speaker 9: I think. 1593 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:05,800 Speaker 8: So, I think it really says a lot that. You know, 1594 01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:07,840 Speaker 8: there's a lot of muck admier in DC. 1595 01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,479 Speaker 12: I live in Pennsylvania, but I work for a DC organization, 1596 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,080 Speaker 12: so I'm down there a lot. And there's so much 1597 01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,439 Speaker 12: temptation to the same things that tempt all elites, right, 1598 01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,880 Speaker 12: infidelity and partying and craziness. But I mean the word 1599 01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,679 Speaker 12: on the street down there is he's the real deal. 1600 01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,600 Speaker 12: I mean, he works hard, he loves his wife, they 1601 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 12: have a healthy marriage, they have kids, and there's no deep, 1602 01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:32,000 Speaker 12: dark story underneath it. He's just he thinks that having healthy, 1603 01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,400 Speaker 12: intact families is one of the most important things we 1604 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,800 Speaker 12: can do to save our country and our culture. He's 1605 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,200 Speaker 12: correct about that, and he seems to be doing a 1606 01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:40,920 Speaker 12: great job of, you know, living that out. 1607 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, when it comes to the Republican Party, how's he 1608 01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:47,599 Speaker 1: viewed within the party and if he does run for president? 1609 01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was very powerful what Marco Rubio said 1610 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,599 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. He was asked about twenty 1611 01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,559 Speaker 1: twenty six and Marco Rubio said, look, if jd Vance runs, 1612 01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,599 Speaker 1: I'm not going to I won't be in the primary. 1613 01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,360 Speaker 1: And I thought that was a powerful statement on behalf 1614 01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,400 Speaker 1: of Marco Rubio but if JD. Vance were to become 1615 01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:09,040 Speaker 1: the nominee, does that signal what I think, thankfully would 1616 01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:12,800 Speaker 1: be the end of what we know as the Republican establishment. 1617 01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. I think that's right. 1618 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,519 Speaker 12: I think you point to the right person, because I 1619 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,599 Speaker 12: think if Marco Rubio's endorsement holds and he says I'm 1620 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,519 Speaker 12: not going to run, I'm going to back JD. Vans, 1621 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,880 Speaker 12: I think that's effectively the end of the primary. I 1622 01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:29,160 Speaker 12: mean effectively, because you will You'll probably get somebody who 1623 01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,679 Speaker 12: will run. But can anybody break five or ten percent 1624 01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,519 Speaker 12: of the of the primary vote if Vance runs backed by. 1625 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:36,240 Speaker 8: Rubia, I don't think so. 1626 01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:36,960 Speaker 2: I think it's over. 1627 01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,720 Speaker 12: So I think he has I mean the people who 1628 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,680 Speaker 12: actually work for the federal government, the political appointees, the 1629 01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,120 Speaker 12: staffers that I know, they like Vans very much. 1630 01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:49,800 Speaker 8: He's a very capable leader. I don't think there's an alternative. 1631 01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,080 Speaker 12: I think if he runs, then Rubio does, and I 1632 01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:55,320 Speaker 12: think that's the end of the primary, and that shows 1633 01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,800 Speaker 12: us what, you know, the future of the Republican Party 1634 01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,000 Speaker 12: after Trump looks like, which is why I wrote the book. 1635 01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I say that because I look at Rubio 1636 01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,240 Speaker 1: and his performance as Secretary of State. And if there's 1637 01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,720 Speaker 1: anyone who's ever shown that they've got the chops to 1638 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,720 Speaker 1: be president of the United States, it's Marco Rubio and 1639 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,120 Speaker 1: the way he's handled himself as Secretary of State. I mean, 1640 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:19,760 Speaker 1: the guy is just he's fantastic. And I think maybe 1641 01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,800 Speaker 1: he looks at it as if look at jd Vance 1642 01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,240 Speaker 1: gets in there. I don't mind waiting four eight more 1643 01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:26,760 Speaker 1: years hit to have my shot at it. 1644 01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:28,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's right. 1645 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:32,320 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'll tell you what the book is. 1646 01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,439 Speaker 1: How's the book doing so far? It's only been out 1647 01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:35,240 Speaker 1: what about a month or so? 1648 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:35,559 Speaker 9: Right? 1649 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, three weeks a half weeks. I think it's doing well. 1650 01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:41,920 Speaker 12: Keep plugging away, get to talk to good people like 1651 01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:43,800 Speaker 12: you about this, and I will say if I can 1652 01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,080 Speaker 12: plug myself. You know, there's a lot of stuff online. 1653 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,720 Speaker 12: You go on Amazon and there's you know, there are 1654 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,360 Speaker 12: half a dozen books. I don't know if any of 1655 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,040 Speaker 12: them are written by AI, but they're. 1656 01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,480 Speaker 8: Self published and they're. 1657 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:55,760 Speaker 12: Short, and it looks like and I don't want to 1658 01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,040 Speaker 12: detegrate books I haven't read, but a lot of it 1659 01:26:58,120 --> 01:26:59,360 Speaker 12: looks like a way to make a buck. 1660 01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,760 Speaker 8: But this was you know my book was published by 1661 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,200 Speaker 8: a real publishing house. Michael Knowles from The Daily Wire 1662 01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,000 Speaker 8: wrote the forward for it. It's real in depth. 1663 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:08,560 Speaker 12: I would say, if you want to know who he is, 1664 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,680 Speaker 12: what he thinks, what he's been writing and doing for 1665 01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:14,360 Speaker 12: the past decade, there's really no nothing I've seen out 1666 01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,400 Speaker 12: there this. After reading He'll billyology that will really tell 1667 01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:19,600 Speaker 12: you who he is and then how he'll lead the 1668 01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,920 Speaker 12: party after Trump. I really think it's a unique book 1669 01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:22,280 Speaker 12: out there. 1670 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:23,120 Speaker 2: JD. 1671 01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,040 Speaker 1: Vance and the Future of the Republican Party. Frank de 1672 01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,680 Speaker 1: Vito is the is the author, and I guess it's 1673 01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,280 Speaker 1: available wherever you get books. Yes, yeah, that's right, all right, 1674 01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,960 Speaker 1: Frank DeVito. Great to have you on, great talking to you. 1675 01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,920 Speaker 1: Keep up the great work, and with your permission, I 1676 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,639 Speaker 1: certainly hope we can chat again in the future. 1677 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:41,920 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I'd be happy to anytime. 1678 01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:42,800 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me. 1679 01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,040 Speaker 1: Frank, Thank you so much, and best of luck to you. 1680 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:48,960 Speaker 1: Frank DeVito and JD. Vance The Future of the Republican 1681 01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,960 Speaker 1: Party two twenty five, Dan Carroll for Bill Cunningham seven 1682 01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:53,280 Speaker 1: hundred WLW. 1683 01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:59,440 Speaker 3: But of course, the dynamic there in terms of geopolitics 1684 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,280 Speaker 3: and the warl released is very different than people expressing 1685 01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:07,040 Speaker 3: their First Amendment right to protest. Well, yes, but I 1686 01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,519 Speaker 3: also think that what people are starting to see, at 1687 01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:17,719 Speaker 3: least in the occupation of Palestine is just an increasing 1688 01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:21,519 Speaker 3: crisis of humanitarian condition, and that to me is just 1689 01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,280 Speaker 3: where I tend to come from. 1690 01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:25,040 Speaker 8: On this issue. 1691 01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,800 Speaker 3: You use the term the occupation of Palestine? 1692 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:29,160 Speaker 6: What did you mean by that? 1693 01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:36,520 Speaker 3: Oh? I think what I meant is like the settlements 1694 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:40,240 Speaker 3: that are increasing in some of these areas, in places 1695 01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:47,960 Speaker 3: where where Palestinians are experiencing difficulty and access to their 1696 01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:49,040 Speaker 3: housing and homes. 1697 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:50,680 Speaker 6: Do you think you can expand on that? 1698 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think i'd also just I am 1699 01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,559 Speaker 3: not the expert geopolitics on this issue. 1700 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:04,440 Speaker 2: Hello, quiet skulls, I'm broadcasting. 1701 01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,000 Speaker 1: That was the only honest thing she said, is that 1702 01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:12,439 Speaker 1: she's not an expert on this issue. Boy, I don't 1703 01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:16,720 Speaker 1: think there is. Who is that AOC? That's AOC. The 1704 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,840 Speaker 1: sheriff is rolling out a lot of her sound bites 1705 01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:20,760 Speaker 1: to that. I don't know why he gets in. 1706 01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,240 Speaker 2: We've had it. No, there's no way, come on, we can't. 1707 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:28,600 Speaker 2: We can't be that stupid, can we? Dan Carroll the 1708 01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:32,040 Speaker 2: stoot reporter. It's a proud service every local Tamestar heating 1709 01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:35,960 Speaker 2: and air conditioning dealers. Tamestar quality you can feel in 1710 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,200 Speaker 2: beautiful Milford, the home of one main gallery called Baker Heating. 1711 01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:41,599 Speaker 2: Right down the street at five, one, three, eight, three, 1712 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:46,200 Speaker 2: one fifty one, twenty four spots. Got a lot of 1713 01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:50,960 Speaker 2: college basketball tonight. Let's go Big East action Villanova and Xavier. 1714 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,840 Speaker 2: It's six here on seven hundred WLW Is that at Villanova? No, 1715 01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:58,080 Speaker 2: it's here. Oh, it's here number twenty two, Miami at 1716 01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,040 Speaker 2: twenty fifth and twenty five, and oh is on on 1717 01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,880 Speaker 2: the road against UMass. Let's go Red Hawks, Amen, Georgia 1718 01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:08,080 Speaker 2: and Kentucky at nine on ESPN fifteen thirty and number one. 1719 01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:14,320 Speaker 2: Michigan is at number seven. Per due about that West Lafayette. 1720 01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:20,439 Speaker 2: Let's see baseball. The Reds continue workouts. It's a spring 1721 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,799 Speaker 2: training camp. Get ready for the Cactus League opener Saturday 1722 01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:28,599 Speaker 2: against those Guardians. Tony Clark is resigning as executive director 1723 01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:32,559 Speaker 2: of the Major League Baseball Players Union. According to ESPN, 1724 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,519 Speaker 2: Clark's resignation comes in the wake of the Eastern District 1725 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:41,599 Speaker 2: of New York's investigation into alleged financial improprieties at the union. 1726 01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:47,240 Speaker 2: What kind of what? What is being alleged? They can't say. 1727 01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:53,519 Speaker 2: I can't say. Yep, they were supposed to alleging some improprieties. 1728 01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:58,040 Speaker 2: The union was scheduled to start their meetings with the 1729 01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,640 Speaker 2: players today at Guardians Camp in a good year, but 1730 01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:06,439 Speaker 2: that it was abruptly canceled and now the union is 1731 01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,800 Speaker 2: without its top leader in a bargaining year. So don't 1732 01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:13,080 Speaker 2: the Reds in the Guardians share of facility in correct? Well, 1733 01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:14,920 Speaker 2: they're probably going to talk about Guardians and they were 1734 01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:15,639 Speaker 2: talking to the Reds. 1735 01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,840 Speaker 1: Say I was going to say it. Why Why didn't 1736 01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,320 Speaker 1: they say it's the Reds facility because they were talking 1737 01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:25,400 Speaker 1: to the Guardians. So they can't talk to the Reds 1738 01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,360 Speaker 1: and the Reds and the Guardians at the same time. 1739 01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:31,960 Speaker 2: No, it's illegal. What too many baseball players and too 1740 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,680 Speaker 2: much money in one room. What happens if something, you know, 1741 01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:38,760 Speaker 2: somebody tries to kidnap one of them? See at the 1742 01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:43,840 Speaker 2: Winter Games, the USA got a golden women's mono bob 1743 01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:48,479 Speaker 2: sled competition. Let's see. The women's ice hockey gold medal 1744 01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,400 Speaker 2: game is Thursday at one. USA and Canada women are 1745 01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:54,240 Speaker 2: goode Yes, they are they're very good. Men's team is 1746 01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,240 Speaker 2: in action tomorrow in the qualifying playoffs. I don't think 1747 01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:00,040 Speaker 2: they've lost the game yet either, have they? No, so 1748 01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:03,360 Speaker 2: they can go all the way with Ted McKay. McKay 1749 01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,879 Speaker 2: and the USA Bengals. Update brought to you by Good Spirits, 1750 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,840 Speaker 2: Wine and Tobacco and Party Town thirteen Convenient occasions in 1751 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:10,639 Speaker 2: Northern Kentucky. 1752 01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:11,479 Speaker 9: Uh. 1753 01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:15,080 Speaker 2: The window to place the franchise tag on any NFL 1754 01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:19,360 Speaker 2: player opens today, ends day after my birthday on March 1755 01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:25,240 Speaker 2: the third, for the second consecutive year. Will they or 1756 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:29,439 Speaker 2: won't they? T Hendrix at one hundred pay Course Stadium, 1757 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,480 Speaker 2: Bengals management. So if they, if they tagged someone. 1758 01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,559 Speaker 1: So much to gets so much sea, he's gonna say 1759 01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,360 Speaker 1: there's a certain amount of money that comes along with 1760 01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:41,360 Speaker 1: Is that predetermined or is that. 1761 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,360 Speaker 2: All it works? But he gets he gets paid, which 1762 01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,920 Speaker 2: he has been. Of course, he didn't do anything last year. 1763 01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:53,280 Speaker 2: Play last year about what three four? Maybe not even 1764 01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:59,680 Speaker 2: a soccer FC Cincinnati's in the Dominican Republic that way, right, 1765 01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,680 Speaker 2: O and M against They're going to face O and 1766 01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,600 Speaker 2: m f C tomorrow night in the first round of 1767 01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:09,720 Speaker 2: the Championship Cup. Seven O n m f C. What 1768 01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,840 Speaker 2: is O n m f C. That's a soccer club? 1769 01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:17,960 Speaker 2: From where that way? Action is seven thirty on Fox 1770 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,320 Speaker 2: Sports thirteen six. You got a computer, look it up? 1771 01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:20,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to. 1772 01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:23,599 Speaker 1: I don't want to look it up. Why I'm busy. 1773 01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm busy talking to you. 1774 01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,200 Speaker 2: Let's see it. Golf. The MCA Teewak Country Club of Course, 1775 01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:32,479 Speaker 2: is going to host the twenty twenty six Kroger Queen 1776 01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:37,400 Speaker 2: City Championship presented by P ANDNG in mid May. Tickets 1777 01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:41,439 Speaker 2: now on sale and voter and volunteer registration now open 1778 01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:46,479 Speaker 2: for the tournament for volunteers at Queen City LPGA dot com. 1779 01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna volunteer, so I might volunteer for that. There 1780 01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,120 Speaker 1: you go spend a few days out there with the 1781 01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:53,360 Speaker 1: ladies playing some golf. 1782 01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,120 Speaker 2: So although I don't get to play golf, you'll get it. 1783 01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:59,800 Speaker 2: And I guess, uh, you know Mark here, Mark Sheer, 1784 01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:03,600 Speaker 2: and Mark and Marks here and Dale Donovan, the co 1785 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,920 Speaker 2: owners that they're going to have a autograph booth. It's 1786 01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:12,080 Speaker 2: going to be a big deal, yep. And also on 1787 01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:16,920 Speaker 2: this day, February the seventeenth, on this Tuesday, twenty twenty six, 1788 01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:22,160 Speaker 2: we say happy birthday to one of our own. Eddie Fingers. Bingo, 1789 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,320 Speaker 2: how about that, the legendary Eddie Fingers. I just pulled 1790 01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:29,479 Speaker 2: that out of my ast. It's thirty nine and holding birthday? Correct? God, 1791 01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,880 Speaker 2: look at day over seventeen Ed Fingers birthday today? Correct? 1792 01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:36,040 Speaker 2: So if you see Ed, call up, call him up 1793 01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,360 Speaker 2: and singing happy birthday between three. 1794 01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:41,200 Speaker 1: And I don't think he's going to be here today, kidding, 1795 01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I did his show yesterday with 1796 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,799 Speaker 1: Jason Williams, and I think Jason Williams and Rocky. 1797 01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:52,439 Speaker 2: Got the show today. Okay, so but he go to 1798 01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,800 Speaker 2: London again. I don't know where he is. Do you 1799 01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:56,840 Speaker 2: take your birthday off? 1800 01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:57,960 Speaker 9: No? 1801 01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,479 Speaker 2: On my birthday, I work? Correct? 1802 01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:03,200 Speaker 9: What do you do? 1803 01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:08,080 Speaker 2: Work? Come in to work right when it snows? I work? 1804 01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:14,240 Speaker 2: What do you do? Stay home? I'm not stupid, and 1805 01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:18,400 Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm done with this fog. I didn't see 1806 01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:23,400 Speaker 2: any fog today. Was there something this morning? Some couldn't 1807 01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,240 Speaker 2: you see that? You couldn't even see yourself in a mirror? 1808 01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,040 Speaker 2: Was unbelievable. Two days in a row. I slept until 1809 01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:34,679 Speaker 2: six thirty. Oh excuse me? Wow? I wasn't being nice. 1810 01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:39,639 Speaker 2: I wasn't out there at three am. Okay, well, yeah 1811 01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:42,920 Speaker 2: it was action, so I probably you know what if 1812 01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:45,920 Speaker 2: I if I was working in a San Francisco radio station, 1813 01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,280 Speaker 2: I probably knew it had ever come from work. They 1814 01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:51,160 Speaker 2: got fog out there all the time. Don't they just 1815 01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,439 Speaker 2: to phone it in? Do it from home? 1816 01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:57,000 Speaker 1: Seg Dennison doing had a bad idea, got a San 1817 01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,400 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers update Seggs on phone. 1818 01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,759 Speaker 2: So seg out there in space? 1819 01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:09,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they have discovered an asteroid that is drifting 1820 01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:09,719 Speaker 1: through space. 1821 01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:14,680 Speaker 2: And they say, tell me it's is Its big as 1822 01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,639 Speaker 2: a grapefruit, and it's going to hit like the middle 1823 01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:20,280 Speaker 2: of the Pacific Ocean in five hundred years. Now, I'm 1824 01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:22,120 Speaker 2: going to tell you how big? Okay, how big is it? 1825 01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:25,599 Speaker 1: Well, they're saying that this asteroid could hit the Moon 1826 01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:30,519 Speaker 1: and then send chunks of the Moon hurtling towards Earth. 1827 01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:33,400 Speaker 2: What, well, like a big one. What do you think 1828 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,640 Speaker 2: about that? This asteroid is big? Here's how big it is. 1829 01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,400 Speaker 2: They've measured the asteroid. 1830 01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,880 Speaker 1: They say the asteroid is the size of Connecticut of 1831 01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:43,679 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty toasters. 1832 01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:55,000 Speaker 2: What, kidty, you mean like toasters on the in your kitchen. 1833 01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:59,080 Speaker 1: Not they're not saying exactly, but roughly the size of 1834 01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:00,439 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty t toasters. 1835 01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:03,640 Speaker 2: So you think of a toaster, it comes up with 1836 01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:06,280 Speaker 2: that stuff. I don't know, they're stupid. They do that 1837 01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:09,519 Speaker 2: all the time. You know, why toasters? I asked, I 1838 01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,559 Speaker 2: have And how do they know that? Do they look 1839 01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:15,120 Speaker 2: it up in a telescope and say, hey, there's something 1840 01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:19,679 Speaker 2: hurtling towards the moon and one and one million years BC? 1841 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,840 Speaker 1: I asked Dean Regez this one time. Yeah, I said, 1842 01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:26,519 Speaker 1: you've got all these crazy measurements. You know, they'll say 1843 01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:29,960 Speaker 1: it's the size of of of three blue fin tuna, 1844 01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,000 Speaker 1: or they'll say it's the size of uh, you know, 1845 01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:37,200 Speaker 1: four four subarus, or they say it's the size of 1846 01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:42,479 Speaker 1: you know, sixteen sixteen giraffes. Yeah, I mean they'll measure 1847 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:44,760 Speaker 1: stuff and say it's like that. And he says, well, 1848 01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:46,599 Speaker 1: that's just so people can get an idea of how 1849 01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,559 Speaker 1: big it is. Why do you do you have any 1850 01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:53,840 Speaker 1: idea how big two hundred and forty toasters is? No, No, 1851 01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean thinking about it, you know, you think of 1852 01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:57,880 Speaker 1: one toaster and then you got. 1853 01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:03,960 Speaker 2: Maybe thirty nine other ones. How far away is this thing? 1854 01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:07,519 Speaker 1: They're saying that this thing could hit the Moon, and 1855 01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:13,400 Speaker 1: then it'll create such an impact it'll send debris cascading 1856 01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:18,200 Speaker 1: towards Earth, potentially triggering a destructive meteor shower in the 1857 01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:19,880 Speaker 1: year twenty thirty two. 1858 01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:23,080 Speaker 2: Well, they said the world was going to come to 1859 01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,599 Speaker 2: an end in twenty twenty, right with all the Wi 1860 01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:27,800 Speaker 2: Fi blowing up in the Internet and everything else, it 1861 01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:30,840 Speaker 2: wouldn't get a word that. Yeah, so look where look 1862 01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:31,519 Speaker 2: where we're at. 1863 01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:37,040 Speaker 1: Six years hence we could see this meteor the size 1864 01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,960 Speaker 1: of forty two toasters, maybe may or two hundred and 1865 01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:43,240 Speaker 1: forty toasters. Maybe they'll have a different measurement by then. 1866 01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:47,519 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll shoot it down. You know, can't hit the Moon. Well, 1867 01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:50,600 Speaker 2: I could hit the Moon, won't hit many times. I 1868 01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,160 Speaker 2: think one of about to just bounce off each each planet, 1869 01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:56,719 Speaker 2: you know, like you know, just kind of hit Pluto 1870 01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:58,400 Speaker 2: and hit another one. 1871 01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:01,000 Speaker 1: You know, I got I got like a pool table. Well, 1872 01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,320 Speaker 1: if it goes into Jupiter, ain't coming back out, yep, 1873 01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:05,439 Speaker 1: that's for sure. So maybe maybe one of the Saturn. 1874 01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to hit Saturn now I think it 1875 01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:07,680 Speaker 1: would come out of there. 1876 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,080 Speaker 2: What about Mars. The red planet could bounce off of Mars, maybe, 1877 01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:14,560 Speaker 2: I think. So hopefully they don't hit the Moon and 1878 01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:17,479 Speaker 2: then come here to Earth by the year So that's 1879 01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:18,439 Speaker 2: only six years away. 1880 01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:18,680 Speaker 9: Sick. 1881 01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so you got to worry about probably still be 1882 01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:22,439 Speaker 2: sitting here talking about it. 1883 01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,360 Speaker 1: And then I love the video of Michael Jordan when 1884 01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:29,040 Speaker 1: his team won the five hundred, and I thought, I 1885 01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,400 Speaker 1: was thinking to myself, you know, here's a guy that 1886 01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:35,040 Speaker 1: was what he was MVP in the NCAA tournament. Yep, 1887 01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:38,640 Speaker 1: he won how many NBA championships, what like five or 1888 01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:39,519 Speaker 1: seven or something like that. 1889 01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,519 Speaker 2: He's got more rings than Genesis Diamond, got. 1890 01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:46,880 Speaker 1: More rings than Saturn. Right, And so now he gets 1891 01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:50,879 Speaker 1: into being an owner of a NASCAR team. 1892 01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:52,720 Speaker 2: And wins the Super Bowl of Stock Car race, and 1893 01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:54,760 Speaker 2: he's jumping up and down like a kid in his 1894 01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:59,799 Speaker 2: birthdays today sixty three years old. Eddie Fingers and Michael 1895 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:02,599 Speaker 2: or born on the same day. Now there's a pair 1896 01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:07,479 Speaker 2: of legends. Well maybe that Eddie ought to have him 1897 01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:11,080 Speaker 2: on the show. Well he's not here. He said, he's 1898 01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:12,320 Speaker 2: not here, saying if. 1899 01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:14,200 Speaker 1: Eddie would work on his birthday, maybe have Michael Jordan. 1900 01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:17,320 Speaker 1: They'd say Hey, Michael Jordan, it's your Birthday's my birthday? 1901 01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:17,960 Speaker 1: Come on the show. 1902 01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go talk about his win? 1903 01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:22,200 Speaker 1: What would you what would you say to Michael Jordan 1904 01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:23,800 Speaker 1: if if you had a chance to talk to him 1905 01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:26,559 Speaker 1: about that big NASCAR victory at the Daytona fi. 1906 01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:30,840 Speaker 2: Like just the way that his team worked together. Riley 1907 01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:34,479 Speaker 2: Herbs was pushing a Tyler Reddick to the win. And 1908 01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:37,120 Speaker 2: that's what he did. And that's what you're supposed to do. 1909 01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:40,160 Speaker 2: Your teammates supposed to help you out. It's either him 1910 01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:43,559 Speaker 2: or me. How much input does Michael Jordan have into 1911 01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:47,920 Speaker 2: the day to day I got everything. I mean, he 1912 01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:49,639 Speaker 2: owns a joint well, I mean he owns it. Yeah, 1913 01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:53,120 Speaker 2: but I mean, you know, look, I'm not I'm not 1914 01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:54,960 Speaker 2: cracking on Michael Jordan. I'm just saying no. 1915 01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he owns the team, right, Has he has 1916 01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:01,000 Speaker 1: he learned? Has he learned a lot about NASK? You 1917 01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:02,800 Speaker 1: have the team now like like five or six years 1918 01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:03,160 Speaker 1: something like that. 1919 01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:06,240 Speaker 2: About three or four probably, But I mean he's got 1920 01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:09,240 Speaker 2: people surrounding him that know the sport, and that's what 1921 01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:13,479 Speaker 2: he that's what it is. And Denny Hamlin is one 1922 01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:14,360 Speaker 2: of his co owners. 1923 01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:21,160 Speaker 1: So well, Denny Hamlin has been around for a long time. Correct, So, 1924 01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:25,679 Speaker 1: but so he wins, he wins a dayton of five hundred. 1925 01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:28,200 Speaker 2: Yep. I mean it doesn't it really, It doesn't get 1926 01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:31,479 Speaker 2: any bigger than that, doesn't. Nope, Nope, they go, they run. 1927 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:33,719 Speaker 2: They race in Atlanta on Sunday. 1928 01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:37,880 Speaker 1: But I was watching video today of one of those 1929 01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:43,240 Speaker 1: cars that was that was coming down to the to 1930 01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:45,800 Speaker 1: I guess what, one of the final laps, and then 1931 01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:50,120 Speaker 1: there was the giant wreck there yea. And so you 1932 01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,320 Speaker 1: can see the cars spinning out in front of this guy. 1933 01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:55,760 Speaker 1: There's a big wall of smoke. The guy comes through 1934 01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:58,280 Speaker 1: the wall of smoke and like it's it's completely open 1935 01:41:58,360 --> 01:41:58,880 Speaker 1: in front of him. 1936 01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:02,400 Speaker 2: Correct, I mean that is amazing. That is just at 1937 01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,800 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty two miles an hour. Yeah, yep, 1938 01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,200 Speaker 2: Because what can you do in that situation? You just 1939 01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:10,479 Speaker 2: drive you and I hope nobody hits you. Keep going 1940 01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,040 Speaker 2: straight and try not to that's it. Just go through 1941 01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,280 Speaker 2: the smoke and hopefully you don't you run it. They 1942 01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:17,120 Speaker 2: don't run into you, and you don't run into them, 1943 01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:19,960 Speaker 2: and you just you gets you know, they got unbelievable 1944 01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:21,120 Speaker 2: reflexes to yeah. 1945 01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,880 Speaker 1: I mean for a second there you couldn't see anything correct, 1946 01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:25,880 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, foot smoke is gone 1947 01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:28,800 Speaker 1: and you can see cars on either side of them 1948 01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,519 Speaker 1: spinning around correct and wiping out. But yet right in 1949 01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:33,519 Speaker 1: front of him was was clear as right. 1950 01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's why you got a spotter straight on. That's 1951 01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:38,160 Speaker 2: why you got a spotter like nine miles up on 1952 01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:42,400 Speaker 2: the on top of the roof saying inside, outside, go left, 1953 01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:46,240 Speaker 2: go right, and in a moment's in a split second? 1954 01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:49,439 Speaker 1: Are they they able to react that fast when they're 1955 01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:50,880 Speaker 1: getting that kind of instruct. 1956 01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:53,639 Speaker 2: All what happened? I mean, you got to right. Sometimes 1957 01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,280 Speaker 2: the guy says go right, and all of a sudden whambo, 1958 01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:59,360 Speaker 2: there's cars right there. So you know, go high, go low, 1959 01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:01,200 Speaker 2: that's what they're saying. How fast are they going? 1960 01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:02,120 Speaker 9: Uh? 1961 01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:03,360 Speaker 2: They were going? 1962 01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:03,600 Speaker 9: Uh? 1963 01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:07,040 Speaker 2: During the average speed was one hundred and forty seven. 1964 01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:11,519 Speaker 2: They usually go about one eighty in a pack. Didn't 1965 01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,320 Speaker 2: They used to drive like two hundred miles an hour? 1966 01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, then they kind of scaled it back a 1967 01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:19,240 Speaker 2: little bit. Why did they do that? So nobody ends 1968 01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:23,080 Speaker 2: up in row thirty four wiping out, you know, seventy 1969 01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:26,720 Speaker 2: people or something. If he recks. It's kind of got 1970 01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:28,160 Speaker 2: to calm it down a little bit then. 1971 01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:30,680 Speaker 1: So they made the cars back down where there were 1972 01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:31,960 Speaker 1: there too many people getting hurt. 1973 01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:36,920 Speaker 2: No, just safety. After Dale Earnhardt was killed there twenty 1974 01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:40,320 Speaker 2: five years ago, safety has been the number one concern 1975 01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:44,519 Speaker 2: and NASCAR and all sports from here on out that 1976 01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,240 Speaker 2: they don't want to. They don't want to, They don't 1977 01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:48,840 Speaker 2: want to go through that again. They are they lost 1978 01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:54,559 Speaker 2: the number one guy in the sport by far that day, 1979 01:43:55,400 --> 01:44:00,599 Speaker 2: and they didn't want to do that again, no more. 1980 01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:05,719 Speaker 2: All right, So safety is the key. Han's device, helmets 1981 01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:09,839 Speaker 2: inside the car, Everything all right fixed. 1982 01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:12,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about the Bob Huggins documentary, 1983 01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,800 Speaker 1: but we gotta, we gotta get going, all right, that's 1984 01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:15,680 Speaker 1: coming out pretty soon. 1985 01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:16,280 Speaker 9: Dan. 1986 01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:20,439 Speaker 2: In honor of Eddie Fingers and Michael Jordan, Happy birthday 1987 01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:23,000 Speaker 2: to both of We leave you with the immortal words 1988 01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:28,559 Speaker 2: of the Stood Report. It's healing time. It's hope time. 1989 01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:34,880 Speaker 2: It's healing your time. It's healing time. God bless Jesse Jackson, 1990 01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,000 Speaker 2: Amen seven hundred W LW