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Speaker 1: Well, well, well, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: It's Sterling and Donnade back together again a Saturday afternoon

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Speaker 2: in the tri State, the whiplash weather in full effect.

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Speaker 1: It was like.

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Speaker 2: Fifties yesterday, forties today, tomorrow's sixties. Bengals and cards at

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Speaker 2: pay corps and here on the big One and everybody

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Speaker 2: is on the road, Donna.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people returning gifts. I guess, I

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Speaker 2: Over the hills far away to Grima's house. We go

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Speaker 2: right or back home after that?

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Speaker 1: How are you? You were sick?

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Speaker 3: I had a Christmas cold and it lasted for like

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Speaker 3: four or five days. I kept it at Bay, and

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Speaker 3: some of it I think was allergies. Believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: Really weird.

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Speaker 3: You know how I know when I have allergies is

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Speaker 3: like a zertech and it made me feel better and

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Speaker 3: got me through the holidays. But man, I've never been

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Speaker 1: Had a good time. I still at a great Christmas

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Speaker 1: spreading the sickness. It's a beautifulness. Should I be doing this. Thankfully,

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Speaker 1: nobody is sick because of me. Yeah, yeah, that I

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Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing I always go, I think

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Speaker 2: it's just allergies, and I've had people go no, no,

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Speaker 2: You've definitely got the sickness, and then I think in

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Speaker 2: my answer goes that you have the group, which I oh,

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Speaker 2: I had bronchitis. I don't think it's a real legitimate

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Speaker 2: medical term. I could be wrong. I didn't go to

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Speaker 2: medical school, so I don't know for sure. Wait, have

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Speaker 2: doctor Adonna Schley had coming on after four o'clock to

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Speaker 2: talk about these US strikes and these ISIS sites as

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Speaker 2: they are described in Nigeria and what that may need

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Speaker 2: for us as we continue to I guess expand maybe

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Speaker 2: some of our efforts to quash our enemies there rather

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Speaker 1: So that's coming up in about an hour. That'll be interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Her absolutely, is Have you done the returns or anything

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Speaker 2: else like that at this point.

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Speaker 4: I have.

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Speaker 3: I have been focused on healing my entire life, and

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Speaker 3: you're just yes, I mean mentally physically, I've been.

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Speaker 1: Because you're sick or because of the year end and

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Speaker 1: new beginning.

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Speaker 3: There's all kinds of stuff that is happening coming into

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Speaker 1: What should I know?

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Speaker 3: Well, the first thing is that in twenty twenty five

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Speaker 3: it was the year the Snake.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned this. Oh wait a minute, I think I

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Speaker 1: jo well it could be, yes, yes, the year of

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Speaker 1: the Snake, which is shedding all kinds of relationships that

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Speaker 1: supposed to be a really hard year for everybody, for

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Speaker 3: I know I broke up with somebody in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: Is that something that you do annually? Because I know

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Speaker 2: because I'm just trying to be a better person.

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Speaker 1: I love that resolution. You make it every year and.

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Speaker 2: It covers all the edges, but people are like, be

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Speaker 2: shedding snake or something like that, but I mean, why not.

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Speaker 1: It is a new skin, new year in the beginning well,

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty five was very hard for all of us

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Speaker 3: We need to go our own separate ways. It's not

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Speaker 1: Now twenty twenty six you're the horse, yes, the equine, and.

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Speaker 1: People are tired of fighting. They're tired of fighting, and

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Speaker 1: relationships are tired of fighting. Yes, aren't you. I don't.

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Speaker 1: are religiously So we're all gonna hold hands and sing

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Speaker 1: It's a black and one best year ever for all

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Speaker 2: And usually it's like a New Year's Eve thing or

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Speaker 2: I mean, here we are, it's the twenty seventh of December.

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Speaker 2: So what I'm wondering is this. This can be a

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Speaker 2: But I'm thinking about that right now.

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Speaker 3: Well, right now, for me, I would love to shed

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Speaker 3: It's like cleansing, sterling. It's like your bad cells, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's a cleansing of you get the demons out. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, bad cells that sit there when you

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Speaker 3: I've had tea and coffee all day, and I've done

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Speaker 1: Right now. I am gonna get hangry. So you're gonna

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Speaker 2: We can navigate this together because it's been a couple

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Speaker 2: I got up early, I did eat late last night

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Speaker 2: be said you were hungry area. Yeah, this is a

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Speaker 3: but my New Year's resolution is to drop these five

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Speaker 1: All that stuff, stings and all kinds. Yeah, I mean, biscuits, ingrapy, yeah,

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Speaker 3: a new year. But this year, I really do think

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Speaker 2: First, I promised that I would not do this again

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Speaker 1: We're all understanding of that. That always happens. Weird.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I just I had a couple of comments. First

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Speaker 3: The longest I've done is seventy four hours delivered. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Get better every day. I love that, Mike. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: And strong, yeah, right to do it and maybe earn

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Speaker 3: That is that you put it out into the universe

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Speaker 3: And I mean, like, for one thing is I was

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Speaker 2: I got a lot of people that are friends that

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Speaker 3: I may even be doing a yoga retreat. I don't

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Speaker 3: even know, but next year I'm going to change it up.

440
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, it is a different kind of vibe.

441
00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,120
Speaker 2: But I could sort of see. I mean, I only

442
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,400
Speaker 2: have one use for cold and snow and that's Christmas

443
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,639
Speaker 2: to yea years and we got it before, and I

444
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 2: know there's more coming. I would have preferred it to

445
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 2: just be this last week and you know, into next week, right,

446
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 2: and then call it a day.

447
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 1: Right, Bring spring, bring the reds, get it done. Everybody

448
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,640
Speaker 1: wants the same idea, by the way.

449
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just one of those things. But

450
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,439
Speaker 2: you know, we're in Ohio, We're in Kentucky, Indiana, the

451
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 2: Tri State.

452
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,199
Speaker 1: It is. You know where we are. So you just

453
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,000
Speaker 1: got to embrace it.

454
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,200
Speaker 2: Your three thirty reports straight away and up they know

455
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 2: what's going on around planet Earth and here in the

456
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 2: Tri State and the update also you know a lot

457
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,680
Speaker 2: of weird stuff happening, like Walnut Hills and things. There's

458
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 2: about three and a half four blocks from where I

459
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 2: used to live. It's been a while ago when we

460
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 2: were still in Mount Adams, and there have been three

461
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 2: or four shootings in this apartment building that I used

462
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 2: to ride my bike bike like all the time. There

463
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 2: is a huge difference, by the way, from one side

464
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 2: of McMillan to the other side of McMillan is what

465
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,679
Speaker 2: I was told by a whole bit. They're like, yeah, man,

466
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,160
Speaker 2: but you were on the other side. I'm like, it's

467
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 2: still disturbing, Yes, it is. Just think about that type

468
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 2: of thing. Imagine living in that building and knowing that

469
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 2: there's been that type of violence in that little window

470
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 2: of time. Just I mean, in general, that's stuff going

471
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 2: on that's not good. The news straight away. I don't

472
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: mean to be the profit of doom. We'll leave that

473
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Speaker 2: to the news. More Sterling and Donade coming back here.

474
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Speaker 2: Seven hundred WLW Sterling and Dona d Saturday afternoon, seven

475
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Speaker 2: hundred WLW.

476
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Speaker 1: Beautiful day.

477
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a little gray, but it's I mean,

478
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 2: it's not snowing, it's not freezing rain. Travel is easy

479
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 2: than the minivans were out to get me earlier, Donna.

480
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 2: I don't know the consortium. They were all distracted. They're

481
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 2: weaving in and out of lanes and everything. I was

482
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 2: starting to think they were after me, but I got here, okay.

483
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 2: I just thought i'd share that because a lot.

484
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 3: I love minivans and that's gonna be my next car.

485
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 3: I have no kids, but I love mini vans like

486
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 3: my Space. My nephew just got a cool new minivan

487
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 3: I saw over Christmas.

488
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Speaker 1: Well, but they've got he's got he getting a kid.

489
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Speaker 5: Kid.

490
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got three.

491
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Speaker 2: I mean literally, it seems like the other day you're like,

492
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: his first baby's coming in here, he's got three. Now,

493
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, they're getting it done. So things are

494
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,239
Speaker 2: going well with them, and that's good. So much so

495
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 2: they needed a minivan, right and hopefully keep it in

496
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 2: their lane maintain your lane, which is a good adage

497
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 2: in general for all aspects of life. But of course

498
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 2: doing a talk show, we go anywhere we want to go.

499
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 2: Uh so, and that leads me the healthy relationship to

500
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 2: your nephew and the minivan brigade. Here here's the other

501
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 2: side of that. I have come as in the news

502
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 2: passively because I don't I'm not really one who's always

503
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: like looking at people online or whatever and celebrity stuff.

504
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: But people do, and apparently it's in the water divorce

505
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: and breakups, and it seems to be a seasonal thing.

506
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 2: So I'm just kind of I don't know if it's

507
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: a year end thing because of taxes, or if it's

508
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 2: like a new beginning thing.

509
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Speaker 1: You mentioned the shedding of the skin in the Year

510
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: the Snake.

511
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 3: This was twenty twenty five, was the Year of the Snake,

512
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 3: and we did see a lot of breakups. Now, I

513
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 3: used to do a Hollywood Report Entertainment Report all the time,

514
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: so I kind of for years and years and years,

515
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: I just kind of follow this stuff. Not religiously, but

516
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 3: I do follow it. But you know, Nicole Kidman and

517
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 3: Keith Urban, they're the big ones that broke up this year,

518
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 3: But there have been a lot of celebrity breakups. Katie

519
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 3: Perry and Orlando Bloom and now she's dating do you know, No,

520
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: it's the guy from Canada. Just intrudeaux, Yeah, how does

521
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 3: that happen? By the way, no idea is she a Canadian?

522
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: A Canuck think she is?

523
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 2: So they just crossed I mean, because I mean I'm

524
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: out and about. I don't cross paths with like people

525
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: like that. Not that I would watch, but I'm just saying, well,

526
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: it's very odd.

527
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 3: Well, she's a celebrity, and I'm sure you know everybody

528
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 3: I don't know one hundred percent get her music. But

529
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: I'm not a twelve year old girl, so I mean,

530
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 3: I'm not exactly her demo Jessica Alba and her husband

531
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 3: Cash Warren. They they are getting a divorced Denise Richard

532
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 3: and Denise Richards and Aaron Phifersers are, however.

533
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: Not a Kai Fifer. No, and she is the same

534
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: one who was married to Charlie Sheen correctly. Yeah, so

535
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: she's really the problem. Well, I mean, I mean he's

536
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: had his problems, right.

537
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: It's been pretty public, and he's talking about how she's

538
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 3: kind of a hoarder, and he did even a video

539
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 3: of her their house and where she just just a mess.

540
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 3: And if I could never, ever ever live with somebody

541
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 3: like that, ever, that would be a deal breaker immediately

542
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 3: you have stuff everywhere. No, that would drive me. I'm

543
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 3: a minimalist. I don't even like a bunch of stuff around.

544
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: Well, I've been shedding stuff for quite a while, trying

545
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 2: to lighten my low.

546
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: But it feels good to do it. Really does want

547
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: me to finish this, Yeah, I wish you would, Okay.

548
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: Amy Schumer and her husband Chris Fisher. And she shed

549
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: a lot of pounds too, holy smokes. Well, Amy Schumer

550
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: is now so skinny. If you've seen pictures on the

551
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: skinny Madison, here's a good one for you.

552
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 3: Sidney Sweeney getting broken up with her boyfriend Jonathan to.

553
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: Just a temporary rebound, come visit, get out of town.

554
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 3: Jessica Simpson and Eric Johnson, her husband, they broke up

555
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 3: this year, not the music player, a musician, Eric Johnson,

556
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: no different, Eric Johnson, who knows they were Ri Laughlin

557
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 3: and Massimo Gianewly. They broke up.

558
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: And she's one of those that were trying to.

559
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: K a lot of breakups this year. I told you

560
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 3: I had one, my sister had one. A lot of

561
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 3: people are just shedding those relationships that no longer work,

562
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: and you know, when you're away from it, like now

563
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit more away from it, I can see, Wow,

564
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: that really was not working at all. And it's so

565
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 3: important to, yeah, take a moment, view what you just

566
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: went through, or view the person that you're with, and

567
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: at the very minimum, because it doesn't mean just because

568
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: it's not working now doesn't mean it's not ever going

569
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: to work. But at least say, hey, what's going on

570
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: now is not working, so let's take some space for

571
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: a minute and see if we can get back together

572
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 3: and regroup.

573
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: That's always really important to do well. I think it

574
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense. And the other thing that

575
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: goes along with that, which I hadn't thought much of.

576
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: And I had a couple of people who messaged in

577
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: friends that are lawyers. Apparently it's a good business the year.

578
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: At this this big business.

579
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: The people wait, big business wait till the end of

580
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: the holiday. I guess too, right, that's kind of people

581
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: will wait for their kids to get out of school

582
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 2: sometimes so it's not traumatic, which I don't know how

583
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: healthy that is, but I've seen that time and time again.

584
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 2: But the year end, is it about hey, new beginnings,

585
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: or they've had enough. They got through another stressful holiday

586
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: season and they're like, I've had enough of this crap.

587
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: I know, even if it cost me half, I'm done

588
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: or how I mean, that's an odd thing.

589
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

590
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 3: Because luckily, because I was married for a while with

591
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 3: my ex husband for almost twenty years together young.

592
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: We were young. I was twenty four, he was twenty two.

593
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 3: But we never had kids, so our divorce was not

594
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: messy at all, and we're still friends. Even that's good

595
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 3: because yeah, we just decided that, hey, you go your way,

596
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: I'll go mine.

597
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: So I want to ask him, this is a weird thing.

598
00:26:52,160 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: So some people I know and they were married, separated, divorced,

599
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 2: still in the same place in the house, and each

600
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 2: of them now are with someone new and they're sharing

601
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: the space.

602
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: Wow, that's hard. That's weird right. Well, my ex.

603
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: Husband and I started dating other people.

604
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: In the same house. No, no, no, but we would all

605
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: four go have dinner together. We were all friends, so

606
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: that's kind of okay.

607
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: But sharing the same house, no, that would be that

608
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: would be too hard for me. Some people can do it, though,

609
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, however, however you can handle, I

610
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: handle something.

611
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's how much of it is. I

612
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 2: wasn't going to get into their business when I was

613
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: hearing about it, but I was interested immediately.

614
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, how does that work?

615
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm like, I can't imagine it if everybody

616
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 2: it's amicable when you were like, hey, this isn't working

617
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 2: and we're friends, better friends than maybe, But I mean,

618
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: how much of that is? Hey, we we have a

619
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: house we have to worry about, or release we have

620
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 2: to worry about, and it's costly.

621
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's part of it. I mean, it would

622
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: have to be part of it otherwise why.

623
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's some weird sisters kind of strange scenario, right,

624
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that that's a whole other

625
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: layer of weirdness that sort of goes with that, which

626
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: I think is kind of odd. Five point three seven

627
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: four nine seven eight hundred, the big one. And if

628
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: you've been through a year end kind of divorced separation thing,

629
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of that is an it's a difficult thing,

630
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: and I'm wading through the holidays. If you have kids,

631
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: is it better, well, well, at least they had a

632
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: nice Christmas. The new year they can start and be

633
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 2: messed up in the head, or I mean, if the

634
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: kids are out of the house. I've seen this, so

635
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: they're out of like out of high school, so you

636
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: figure they're going to college or something else. They're grown enough.

637
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: But I mean I've been surprised on more than one

638
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: occasion where something like that's come up, and I'm like,

639
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: I had no idea. They seem like the perfect couple scenario.

640
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: But I guess you can hide anything.

641
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: Well, and you know, my advice would be to try

642
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: everything that you possibly can do to fix the relationship

643
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: all all the time. People always think not all the

644
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: time I'm saying this, the grass is greener, and it's

645
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: not always the case. So if you if it's just

646
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: little tiny things that are bothering you, maybe you can

647
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: figure it out.

648
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: Go.

649
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: The therapy really helps for couples. That's a doctor Wess

650
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: and I. That's what we do our Saturday night show

651
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 3: on when he comes on with me is we talk

652
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: about things that can support you and how to help you,

653
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: and how to work on your marriage and how to

654
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: work on your partnership.

655
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: But it's not always easy, and it takes two to

656
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: fix things as well as it does break things. Oh absolutely,

657
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 1: and good at breaking stuff.

658
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: They say that the divorce rates around the fifth, fifth,

659
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: and the fifteenth and twentieth years.

660
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: That's when they peak.

661
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: They say conflict, negative interaction patterns, irreconcilable differences. That's I

662
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: guess that excuse for everything or whatever. And you get

663
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: when you get to the point that.

664
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: Again the fifth around the fifth, fifth year, fifteenth and

665
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: the twentieth years. Okay, wow, And what was that they

666
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: made a movie about it? I remember it's an old

667
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: movie with a seven year itch or something. That's what

668
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: I was going to say.

669
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: It's the seven year Rich and I know several people

670
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: that got divorced on the seven year rich that's interesting

671
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: five point fifteen and twenty.

672
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: Right, if you can believe the internet, financial stress, that's

673
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: usually the number one thing, right, other than like infidelity

674
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: or incompatibility when it comes.

675
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: To No, I don't think it is at all. I

676
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: don't think it's money, Nope, I do not. I think

677
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: it is lack of communication and lack of care. Yeah,

678
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: So if somebody is coming in, this is the four

679
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: horsemen stone walling, which is you know, if someone is

680
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: basically trying to talk, If I'm trying to talk to

681
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: you and you're just looking at your phone, how who

682
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: would want to be with somebody like that. You have

683
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: to really show that you care and that love is

684
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: in action, So you have to choose love over anything

685
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: else all the time. And if you only have one

686
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: person that's doing that. That's what I think is the

687
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: number one reason for divorce. Critic is defensiveness. I mean

688
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: eye rolling is is a.

689
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: Really I'm just acting these things exactly. We're out on

690
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: camera at the moment, but in the future you never know.

691
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: It's one of those things. All those things you say

692
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: makes sense. They say also lack of a family support

693
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: and backing when it comes to that will lead to

694
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: a divorce, you know, increased percentages of that because I

695
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: guess that you know each side of the families, like

696
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: you know, I don't like him anyway, or I don't

697
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: like her.

698
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: I never liked that person from to get.

699
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is kind of and people, it's weird. I've

700
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: had friends, But why didn't you say anything? I was like, dude,

701
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: it was fairly clear. I don't know what to do.

702
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: I'm not going to interfere. When you're telling me that

703
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: you're absolutely happy. I say, you're sure, this is what

704
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: you want to do. Why you turn this on me?

705
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: That's your marriage that we're just drinking beers.

706
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: Now, I did say I did have somebody tell me that.

707
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: If somebody, anybody would have said to him, don't do it,

708
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: don't marry her, he would have walked on there on

709
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: his wedding day.

710
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: If you're so desperate, though, hoping that someone's going to

711
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: tell you to validate your exactly you already know, but

712
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: I've been guilty, not of that part. But you're kind

713
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: of like, uh, you feel it in your gut and

714
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: you kind of know, but you want to believe. You

715
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: want to believe that it's going to get better, that

716
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: you're wrong, that something's going to change, and it often doesn't.

717
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: It's called outsourcing your safety. You're you're relying on this person.

718
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: You'd rather feel safe with the wrong person than be

719
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: alone and scared with you by yourself.

720
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: That's what happens.

721
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I am so good to be alone though,

722
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: I mean there's an only child.

723
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm too good at it. I really am. That's your problem. Yeah,

724
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: that's my issue. It really is. You get along with everybody. No,

725
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: I can't even get along with me, but I can't

726
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: get away from myself. It's terrible, and I have tried.

727
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: Believe me. That's an odd one.

728
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: It's not sharing is not your issue because you always

729
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: give me your crackers and all kinds of.

730
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I share, I give a lot. I just.

731
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 5: No.

732
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: But this is something I'm learning on another level.

733
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: And I'm going to talk about this in detail tonight

734
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: from nine to midnight. The outsourcing of your safety. I

735
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: mean there are people that I have done. You know,

736
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: I have a twin sister who's real important to me,

737
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 3: and she's like my best friend, and we're very, very close.

738
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: But I have seen where I have. You know, she's

739
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: been my security blank and my safety, my everything, and

740
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: you know when when that changes, like for instance, she

741
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: has a new boyfriend now that she absolutely loves. When

742
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: that changes, I've had to change and look at and

743
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: go inward and go deeper into figuring out that, hey,

744
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: not every emotional need should come from one relationship. I

745
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: really remely sister or not.

746
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: Kids Kids are a big thing for parents, like I

747
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: have my two kids and that's all I need. Well, No,

748
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: you have to really give yourself. You have to be

749
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: your own, your own father, your own sister, your own daughter.

750
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: You have distress. You just made me nervous hearing that.

751
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: Why my own sister, my own brother, my own you do?

752
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: You have to have your own back.

753
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 3: And that comes from digging deep, that's what that's where

754
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: that comes from. And it doesn't mean that you should

755
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: not have these relationships.

756
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: You should. You can't do it alone. You just shouldn't

757
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: rely on.

758
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we find ourselves sometimes in that where you

759
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: do become dependent in some fashion with any type of

760
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: partnership or relationship kind of scenario, whether it's a familiar

761
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: thing or it's a it's a relationship, intimate partner kind

762
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 2: of scenario, husband, white boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever.

763
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: And that's why people take things that they wouldn't normally take,

764
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: or say the things that they want to say but

765
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: don't because they don't want to, you know, have any

766
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 3: dust up and have to figure that out because that's

767
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 3: kind of a mess. But it's important to make sure

768
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: that you do the work and you have your own back.

769
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: That's when you can stand strong in a relationship.

770
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: I'm trying to end on your own. We're digging deep

771
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: and digging deep. I didn't even know we were going

772
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: into this doctor's orders.

773
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: It's a Saturday afternoon Stirling and Donna d seven hundred WLW.

774
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 2: Sterling and Donna de hanging out, beautiful Saturday afternoon, seven

775
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: hundred WLW. Mister Waddell keeping us online.

776
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: I do.

777
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: I mean, it feels like we're hanging around in France,

778
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: maybe drinking some wine and baguettes or something like that,

779
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: you know, hanging out. I did kind of have that vine.

780
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: I kind of was taken away someplace else. Speaking of

781
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: taking away. Conversation with doctor Donna schlike coming up after

782
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: four o'clock about the US strikes in Nigeria, some people

783
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: are saying that this is maybe feeding into some of

784
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 2: what others are, like the people that are attacking Christians

785
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: and elsewhere call it like a holy worse scenario, and

786
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: us doing it on Christmas could have maybe taken it

787
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 2: to another level. We would hope that that's not the case,

788
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 2: but we'll take some time and talk to doctor Schleck

789
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: about that. And also the Epstein files, which just won't

790
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: go away as is. It seems like another bit of

791
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 2: information in an accusation of Tyler Perry and another sexual

792
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: assault lawsuit scenario two another actor accusing Tyler Perry, which

793
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: is weird. It's like the me too things come back

794
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: around or whatever. And then the Epstein files won't go

795
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: away either.

796
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: So that's he keeps hearing stuff about Tyler Perry.

797
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: It's like once every four months something somebody's coming up

798
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: with Tyler Perry.

799
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: It's the first I've heard about it. I mean, maybe

800
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: it happened and I just overlooked it or something. I'm like,

801
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: what a new movie means.

802
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the.

803
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: Same guy I just saw that. There's accusations again, but

804
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: would be a different person.

805
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: I would think, yeah, I.

806
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: Would think multiple lawsuits would maybe be a bit of

807
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: a stretch. It's kind of a kind of an odd thing,

808
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: I think, just generally. But we'll see exactly what that

809
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: means and what goes along with that. Bengals at home,

810
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: two games left at pegor got Browns to close out

811
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: the season. But tomorrow one o'clock kickoff the Arizona Cardinals

812
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: in town. And it would be almost better if it

813
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: were holder for the Bengals to take on the kids

814
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: from And I say the kids hear me from like

815
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: they're coming from Arizona. They don't understand the Ohio cold.

816
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: But it's going to be near seventy, so yeah, it's

817
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: not going to.

818
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: Be It'll be nice to go to the game, though,

819
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 3: when it's six inches of snow sitting in the seats.

820
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: That's correct.

821
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a whole big thing for a lot

822
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 2: of people trying to dig out of that a couple

823
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. That was some ugliness or whatever. And

824
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: I don't know how they pulled that off anyway, And

825
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: there was some talk about it hadn't been handled or whatever.

826
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: I was waiting for the call. I was ready with

827
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 2: the shovel. I was here anyway.

828
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: I was ready. We could have never gone down to

829
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: pay corn. It was crazy eight inches and more. Snow

830
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: very different right now.

831
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's almost like spring or something. I don't know

832
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: what this is. It's just whiplash and ugliness. It's it's

833
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: kind of weird to go along with that. A lot

834
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: of people heading home and you know, getting ready for

835
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 2: I guess the New Year's celebration. Back from traveling and everything,

836
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: So just be careful out there. Lot of traffic and apparently,

837
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: which I find is somewhat surprising, but I guess you

838
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: have to come home at some point. This is supposed

839
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: to be the busiest flying day of the holiday season

840
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: because I guess a lot of people come home today

841
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: or tomorrow, and then of course you have a day

842
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: to sort of get it together before you hit back

843
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: to work for another short week.

844
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only going to be like everyone's gonna be

845
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: off Wednesday and Thursday, New Year's even New Year's Day,

846
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: so yeah, short week.

847
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: If you were smart, take that whole week off, right,

848
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: learn that vacation. But I mean, you know, it's also

849
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: nice to get back and do some things in your

850
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: house and get caught up. Yeah, that's what everybody's doing.

851
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: Clean it up, get rid of that dry tree. That's

852
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: a fire hazard. That I still have a hard time

853
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: believing that, back in the day before electricity was available

854
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 2: to the masses, that they would take a live tree,

855
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: cut it, bring it into the house and then put

856
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 2: candles on. I mean, it's just right there in itself

857
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: is a description of like bad outcomes. I'm like, did

858
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: no one have an idea that this was a problem?

859
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: So LED lights are much better? Yes, yeah, so do that.

860
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: I saw a neighbor ed and they have like all

861
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: kinds of trees. They have like a pseudo Christmas trees

862
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: in the yard which they decorate. And I know they

863
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: have multiple trees in the house, some fake and some real.

864
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: They had one dead when they already had at the curb.

865
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 2: But he said, no, no, we've watered the others. We're

866
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: in good shape. He says, you can come in and

867
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: take a look around. I'm like, it's all right. I

868
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: don't need to go to the Christmas Museum right now.

869
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: So a lot of people doing that, And I was like,

870
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: so what about the lights. He goes, Oh, they'll they'll

871
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 2: stay at least until the week after New Year's Yeah, that's.

872
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: What most people in my neighborhood.

873
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 5: Do.

874
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: I mean you would think right after New Year's everybody

875
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: takes everything down, But no, they'll keep those lights up

876
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: in those inflatables and all that stuff. And I'm fine,

877
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: I don't either. I don't mind it. Some of them

878
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: have really pretty lights up in my neighborhood.

879
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there are a couple of people. I mean,

880
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: they do some really crazy light shows and everything else,

881
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: and I'd rather them do the work and then I

882
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: can just ride through and go look at and then

883
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: I can go home and not have to worry about

884
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: Are you going out New Year's Eve this year? I'm

885
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: gonna be doing this, That's right, you are virtually.

886
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: If not, yeah, we'll do a bigger a New Year's celebration.

887
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: So I'll call in, But I'm having a New Year's

888
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: Eve party at my house.

889
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: We have to hydrate, got to hydrate, and we're gonna

890
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: be late four o'clock. Report straight away, the latest on

891
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: Nigeria attacks, and so much more. Sterling Donnade where the

892
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: Bengals play, because it's the home of the best Bengals

893
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: coverage seven hundred double l W Cincinnati.

894
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: Hey, how you doing?

895
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: It's beautiful Saturday afternoon, Sterling and donnade hanging out. I

896
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: know it's overcast, like beautiful really well, yeah, I mean

897
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: it's not freezing cold. It's not the you know, precipitation

898
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: piling up and drove, So yeah, I and tomorrow it's

899
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 2: going to be in your seventy in the Bengals day,

900
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 2: So I mean, enjoy it before Monday and then you

901
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: get like a Necke thirty. Yeah, it's ridiculous. A lot

902
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 2: of stuff in the news. Former head of political science

903
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: at right State Cincinnati kid Now, Professor Meridith. She was

904
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 2: the head of political science at right Now, doctor Donnas

905
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: Schleck was Stirling and Donadee on the Big One.

906
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: How are you? How's Christmas time? New Year's and all

907
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: you're doing?

908
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 7: Okay, the family food football fun fest continues.

909
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, we appreciate you taking a break from that. Yeah.

910
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: I think that covers all the basis. I'm kind of excited.

911
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: I wish I had a cocktail right about now. Is

912
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: some odd stuff in the news, or maybe not odd,

913
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: but some of the reports and comments people of Maine

914
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: about it have taken it to another level where my

915
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: mind started thinking a little bit differently. So we reached

916
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: out to you in the news about US strikes in

917
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: Nigeria against ISIS, as it's been reported, apparently going after

918
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: Christians and other groups, not just really focusing on Christians.

919
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: But the President said that he waited, he could have

920
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: gone earlier, but decided to actually hit them on Christmas.

921
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 2: I guess to make a point. What has been talked about,

922
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: and what I've read is that people are saying that

923
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: this is sort of feeding into that whole Zealot men

924
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: and a holy war mindset of it being a god

925
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: thing rather than just a violence thing. How legitimate is

926
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: that concern? And what does that mean for us moving

927
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: forward domestically?

928
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 7: Wow's who thought we'd be talking about Africa and Venezuela

929
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 7: and possible military strength around it IS And hello there, donnas.

930
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 7: We're in the holiday spirit and and and of course

931
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 7: you know, Americans have been hearing about these kidnappings going

932
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 7: back probably ten years because of ISIS in Nigeria, Muslims

933
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 7: are are kidnapped as well. A lot of it's for ransom,

934
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 7: so a lot of it is just gangs. But there

935
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 7: are a couple of things happening in Nigeria that you know,

936
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 7: I'm interested in terrorism on a global basis, and in

937
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 7: Nigeria we have cut our foreign aid and but now

938
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 7: we've come to try to punish ISIS with the with

939
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 7: the approval of the Nigerian head of state. So this

940
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 7: was not over their objections. They do not have good

941
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 7: control of the perimeter of their country. They're threatened by ISIS.

942
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 7: You know, the gift that keeps on giving Maalia, Yemen

943
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 7: and Boko Haram definitely homegrown, but very fundamentalists. Boko Haram

944
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 7: means books are forbidden, so it tells you something about

945
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 7: you know, just how violent they're going to be. And

946
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 7: most of the abductions people have come home. The one

947
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 7: a few years ago where they took two hundred girls

948
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 7: took a long time to ransom them out. But we've

949
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 7: cut our foreign aid to Nigeria and yet we've exerted

950
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 7: ourselves in this way. We fired quite a few of ambassadors,

951
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 7: foreign service officers who've been staffing up jobs in Africa

952
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 7: and Asia. So from a foreign policy perspective, the signal

953
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 7: seems to be terrorism will not go away, even if

954
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 7: we're going to call it narco dotacantes. You know, in

955
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 7: the Caribbean, ISIS continues and we've also been bombing a

956
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 7: lot of sights in Syria to punish ISIS for the

957
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 7: killing of the three Americans. We've taken our troops down

958
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 7: to one thousand in Syria. So it's very complicated and

959
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 7: extremely tricky for our military. These Tomahawk strikes have come,

960
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 7: you know, if their standoff, they're from a great distance.

961
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 7: We're not sending in you know, bombers from the air force.

962
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 7: But terrorism simply will not go away. And I guess

963
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 7: what worries me most about Nigeria, big country, great oil wealth,

964
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 7: is the problem that they don't control a lot of

965
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 7: their country. And ISIS has apparently been helping get people

966
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 7: organized more effectively. Different gangs now working together, larger scale abductions,

967
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 7: they find a way to insinuate themselves into, you know,

968
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 7: the local conflicts, and it is both a Christian and

969
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 7: a Muslim country, very complicated picture. We cannot take our

970
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 7: eye off Africa. And perhaps it's the oil that has

971
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 7: drawn President Trump's attention, and of course the attacks on

972
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 7: the Christian community. But you were correct, it's not been

973
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 7: an exclusively anti Christian campaign. I think it's important to

974
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 7: point that out. And a lot of it is just

975
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 7: gang related abductions for money. But that tells us something

976
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 7: else where does isis do well in states that are failing,

977
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 7: States that are weak, states that cannot police their territory

978
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 7: and protect their people from violence. The more you know

979
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 7: a state approaches failure, the less control and order you

980
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 7: will find, which is what troubles me most about the

981
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 7: path we're on with Venezuela right now. So that being said,

982
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 7: I'm in the holiday spirit or analysis.

983
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: So doctor Donna, there's a lot in there. What would

984
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 3: you suggest we do in in terms of handling it

985
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: instead of bombing? And you know, Sterling, I agree, it

986
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:18,479
Speaker 3: creates more zealots, It creates more people that might want

987
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 3: to just harm anybody that has anything to do with

988
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: the United States because we're bombing over there?

989
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: What what? What? What should we be doing instead of

990
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: creating this possible hold.

991
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 7: Over Such a thoughtful way to appreciate it. I think

992
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 7: it's important to remember we're dealing with an ideology here,

993
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 7: and uh, you know, and real social and economic problems

994
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 7: that these societies are facing. Under President John Kennedy, there

995
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 7: was the idea of perhaps hearts and minds, perhaps Foreign

996
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 7: aid and Peace Corps projects doing things like digging wells

997
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 7: and you know, bringing vaccines for public health. So we've

998
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 7: figured out what to do, but it's long, it's slow,

999
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 7: and it takes sustained investments, and many Americans are increasingly

1000
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 7: hostile towards foreign aid, which they mistakenly think is some

1001
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 7: huge component of our national budget. Right it's about a

1002
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 7: quarter of one percent. That's how little it is, and

1003
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 7: yet how much good it can do. To speak to Donna,

1004
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 7: the conditions that people are experiencing and the way some

1005
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 7: political groups, religious groups can you recruit them into political violence.

1006
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 7: We designed alternatives. But the thing that happened, you know,

1007
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 7: six months ago, was we cut foreign aid, particularly in

1008
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 7: the public health, women's health, children's health categories, HIV meds,

1009
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 7: those sorts of things. Again, if it's hearts and minds

1010
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 7: that that that you know, you're you're concerned about. Food aid,

1011
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 7: of course, has been cut in terrible places like Sudan

1012
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 7: and dark For.

1013
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: Doctor donas Schlike, by the way, is with us. I'm

1014
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: sorry to I want to reintroduce her. She's the former

1015
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: head of political science at right stage, she's not Professor

1016
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: Meretith Cincinnati kid with Sterling and donnade on the big one.

1017
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: American soft power is sort of what you're alluding to

1018
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: in a different way to going about winning friends and

1019
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 2: influencing people and hopefully avoiding the desperation and those cracks

1020
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: in a society that can turn people more violent and aggressive,

1021
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: whether to us or their neighbors much closer. I don't

1022
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: have a problem with US bombing from a distance rather

1023
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: than boots on the ground, as long as we know

1024
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: that we're getting the right enemy, uh, and not creating

1025
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: people who are going to be against us because of

1026
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: collateral damage for one of a better way to describe it.

1027
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: Uh.

1028
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: By the way, doctor Donna Schlike published the first textbook

1029
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: on terrorism, so she knows a thing or two about this.

1030
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm curious in relation to this and dealing with the

1031
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 2: footprint that Russia had been making inroads and certainly China

1032
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 2: in Africa as well. When there is chaos, when there

1033
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: is turmoil, when there is a vacuum, when we are

1034
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: not involved, does that not aside from the economic issue

1035
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: of this, is they have tried to expand their footprint

1036
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: there in other parts of the world. That makes us

1037
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: more vulnerable too. So there is a fine line to

1038
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: walk with budget as well as keeping us safe in

1039
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: our interest elsewhere.

1040
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely.

1041
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 7: The Russians, of course, sponsor a number of militias that

1042
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 7: are now reportedly committing the worst atrocities of atrocities in

1043
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 7: Sudan in the Darfur region. Chinese build, you know, their

1044
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 7: bridges and roads. It's a global project to build bridges

1045
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 7: and roads, get more trade coming to China, and build friends.

1046
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 7: So in very different ways, they are definitely playing to

1047
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 7: their strength and exerting their influence. But this part of

1048
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 7: the world, whether you're interested in energy, I know the

1049
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 7: White House policy on Syria hasn't mentioned that the strikes

1050
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 7: in Syria were done with the, if not informed, consent

1051
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 7: of the Syrian government. My guess is we're on better

1052
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 7: relations now with them in trying to combat ISIS. But

1053
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 7: as Americans, we know the lesson. When you have a

1054
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 7: deep political, social, economic grievance that's bubbling up, there's probably

1055
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 7: not a long term, good military solution to those problems.

1056
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 7: And that's the frustration. We have great military tools, but

1057
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 7: the tools we may need to speak to this ideological threat,

1058
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 7: whether it's Syria or Nigeria or even potentially in the Caribbean,

1059
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 7: it's long It takes time, it takes resources. It takes

1060
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 7: a lot of great people willing to volunteer two or

1061
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 7: three or five years. Uh, you know, after college to

1062
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 7: work in these developing countries and make a difference in

1063
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 7: their lives and what they think about the United States.

1064
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 7: We don't tell those stories often enough. You know, the

1065
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 7: Voice of America operated for so long and in our

1066
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 7: part of the country that outreach America first doesn't mean

1067
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 7: America alone. In fact, it can't. When you have, you know,

1068
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 7: a great economy and far flung interest you're going to

1069
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 7: have global interests and concerns national security, economic, public health.

1070
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

1071
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 7: You know, the list goes on, and it really struck

1072
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 7: me then as well, and in particularly Nigeria. We cannot

1073
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 7: divert resources away from the concern of the threat of terrorism.

1074
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 7: We cannot h and many resources right now in national

1075
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 7: security apparatus are being diverted because of the asis on immigration.

1076
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 7: This is not good and these should be red flags

1077
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 7: to the public. You know, we cannot take our eyes

1078
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 7: off that threat.

1079
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 4: Oh.

1080
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 7: I was just gonna say. The Christian community in particular, though,

1081
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 7: that must have struck quite a painful cord in in

1082
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 7: the White House because they responded much faster to that

1083
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 7: than they even did taking retribution for the three American servicemen,

1084
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 7: the National Guardsmen from Iowa who were on duty in

1085
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 7: Syria who were killed assassinated by a sniper. So this

1086
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 7: problem will not go away. But knowledge is power and

1087
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 7: knowing how to choose the correct path of response. Terrorism

1088
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 7: terrorists always want to provoke an overreaction every time, if possible,

1089
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 7: with as much publicity as they can possibly acquire. What

1090
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 7: we're not hearing this Christmas is another mass attack in

1091
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 7: a Christmas fair because most of them have been closed

1092
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 7: to vehicle traffic, particularly across Europe. So they pick the

1093
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 7: vulnerable targets. What will people pay attention to, what will

1094
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 7: they care about? And in this case it was that small.

1095
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 7: It's a minority population, but it's a significant population in

1096
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 7: Nigeria and President Trump has clearly ordered retaliation. Did they

1097
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 7: hit the right villages? How much of the isis vocalha

1098
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 7: RAM infrastructure is gone. I doubt we're going to hear

1099
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 7: much of an after action report in that regard.

1100
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: Well, it tends to just sort of bubble up like fungus,

1101
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: you know, when the lights are out and the conditions

1102
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: are correct, it just pops up for a multitude of reasons,

1103
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: and then you know, it becomes that lone wol for

1104
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: someone who's been activated in some way because they, you know,

1105
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 2: feel that they have been drawn into this in some

1106
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 2: fashion too. And we've seen that lunatics of American persuasion

1107
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 2: here too over the years and in recent months for

1108
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: that matter as well. It's startling and Donna de with

1109
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: doctor Donashchleg former head of political science at Right State,

1110
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: if we can shift gears in a short amount of

1111
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: time here something else that has been in the news

1112
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 2: that has been drip drip, drip, drip drip, with tons

1113
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: of information that has been redacted in pictures and some

1114
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: videos that were posted then pulled back. And then the

1115
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 2: talk of targeting, say Democrats because it's embarrassing to them

1116
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: or maybe maybe eve embarrassing to President Trump in some

1117
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: fashion with this, What is going on with the Epstein files,

1118
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: and what really is the endgame with this that you

1119
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: think will come of it, if anything, because it really

1120
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 2: is less of a legal thing in some ways and

1121
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: more of a political thing that it is being dealt

1122
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: with by the White House, and for those victims at

1123
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 2: this point too, sadly.

1124
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 7: Sadly, and I'm grateful that you mentioned the victims because

1125
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 7: they are so deeply frustrated by this process, and many

1126
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 7: of them are still, you know, unable to speak specifically

1127
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 7: about their accusers, well their abusers. So again, who's been protected?

1128
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 7: You know why the slow walk this will not go away.

1129
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 7: It will probably be the one thing that the Trump

1130
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 7: second presidency, the administration will look at is they have

1131
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 7: not managed the messaging on Epstein. They are always behind

1132
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 7: the curve, and I we can call it a democratic hoax,

1133
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 7: which is what he's now calling it. But obviously this

1134
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 7: goes this has been going on for years. The reaction

1135
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 7: right now, I don't know if some of the victims,

1136
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 7: some of the survivors will be speaking out out of frustration.

1137
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1138
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 7: They might be given a protected venue in which to

1139
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 7: do that with Congress. But public interest is not going away.

1140
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 7: The FBI clearly has an all hands on deck situation

1141
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 7: to try to redact these documents. But I'm dumbfounded by

1142
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 7: the scale of a million more documents, And like you

1143
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 7: and Donna, I wonder and what else after that? I mean,

1144
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 7: how will we know? So the process has completely broken down?

1145
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 7: Congress put no penalty in the law that they passed requiring,

1146
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 7: you know, the distribution of the documents by the nineteenth.

1147
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 7: That deadline has already passed. Some of the representatives are

1148
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 7: talking about, you know, a motion of impeachment of the

1149
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 7: Attorney General. I'm not sure what that will accomplish. Frustration

1150
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 7: is not it's simply not going away. And I don't

1151
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 7: know what else the administration can do besides to publish.

1152
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 7: It's going to be a massive set of documents, and

1153
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 7: we're going to miss more names. You know, while people

1154
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 7: who've been ye survived and privacy has been perfected, a

1155
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 7: couple of those have already been revealed as well.

1156
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 3: No, I mean, that's that's what I was going to say,

1157
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 3: doctor donnad. The victims have really moved this along. The

1158
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 3: survivors is what I would call them, survivors, and they've

1159
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 3: literally said, we don't care. We don't care if our

1160
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 3: names are out, we don't care. We want this public.

1161
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: We want everyone to know who these people are. And

1162
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 3: so do you think the only thing that can happen

1163
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: is that they start naming names?

1164
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: And how would that play out?

1165
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 7: Then we have the overwhelming news story of the new year.

1166
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 7: I think there are an ample number of members in

1167
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 7: Congress once they come back into session, and of course

1168
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 7: calling them back into session will be another interesting exercise

1169
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 7: at the start of the year. Then we immediately go

1170
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 7: into another budget crisis too. So on top of the

1171
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 7: thing document.

1172
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: File, doctor Schleck, say six, Donna just said. Donna d

1173
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: said that it was everything was going to get better

1174
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: in twenty six and what you've laid out there is

1175
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 1: another year of just what the hell is going on?

1176
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, wow.

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00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 7: Say exactly when in twenty six?

1178
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: Right, it could be the second.

1179
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: Well, I am feeling so much better about nothing now,

1180
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: So that's fantastic.

1181
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: Donna gives it to a straight That's why we here.

1182
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: We can respect it sometimes I don't mind being lied to.

1183
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: Actually, doctor Donna schleg former head of political science at

1184
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: right State, now Professor Meredith.

1185
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: She is a Cincinnati kid.

1186
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: Thank you for bringing your knowledge base and your insights

1187
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: and perspectives to the air.

1188
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: We appreciate it as always. Have a great new year.

1189
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 7: Thank you, Happy new year, view and Donna.

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00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,479
Speaker 1: Thank you, doctor Donna. You feel better?

1191
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 5: Oh?

1192
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 3: I mean she always you know, it's it's it's it's

1193
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 3: always lovely to talk to her, but it's tough.

1194
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, your four third reports coming up, fast and furious.

1195
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: It's a Saturday afternoon, Sterling Donna d together again here

1196
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: the Nation station seven hundred wulw man. The road's busy,

1197
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: airport's busy. Warm is here warmer still tomorrow and then

1198
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: the cold returns. Bengals, Cardinals, one o'clock pay Corps and

1199
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: here on seven hundred w welw on your Sunday. In

1200
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: the meantime at Sterling and Donna d hanging out, a

1201
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: lot of people returning home from over the hills and

1202
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: far away to grandma's house or the in laws thing.

1203
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: We talked about this too, and yeah, anybody who's been

1204
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: in a relationship situation or you know, you're tagging along

1205
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: as kids in the car with mom and dad, depending,

1206
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 2: how do you decide where you're going? Because usually somebody

1207
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 2: wants you to be there more than someone else. And

1208
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: I don't know who is it a dominant thing and

1209
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: who has hand in the relationship? Donna, how does one

1210
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: decide where you're going so you're not going to five

1211
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: places every you know holiday, Well.

1212
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 3: It's one of the most common and quietly stressful challenges

1213
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 3: that couples face during the holidays is you know, when

1214
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: are we going here?

1215
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: Do we have to stop there? How are we going

1216
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: to do this?

1217
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 3: I want to have Christmas at my house with the

1218
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 3: kids and that kind of stuff.

1219
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,479
Speaker 1: But it it.

1220
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 3: Can be less stressful, but a lot of people. The

1221
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 3: number one thing that it's really hard on the kids

1222
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: that are doing this, Like, you know, the in laws

1223
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 3: are a priority, and then her parents are a priority.

1224
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 3: But the keeping score, you were there for four hours.

1225
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 3: You've only spent two hours here. You were there at

1226
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 3: their house Christmas Day, and we want to see christ

1227
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 3: It's tough. It is tough no matter how you slice it.

1228
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 3: But you really have to set boundaries.

1229
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: It's a nightmare when you're talking about, you know, doing

1230
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: it by the billable hour four.

1231
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: Eating loyalties.

1232
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 3: But people take that personally parents or laws and everything else.

1233
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 3: Usually you would say the wife really picks like in

1234
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 3: many of my nieces and things like that, that's true.

1235
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 3: The wife do decide that, hey, I'm going to go

1236
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 3: to my mom's house first, that's what we're doing, and

1237
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,959
Speaker 3: then we'll go to your your parents' house.

1238
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: Is that okay?

1239
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 3: But I just watched this whole thing on. This guy

1240
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 3: basically said, I don't even like Christmas anymore. I absolutely

1241
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 3: hate it. My wife will only go to her place,

1242
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 3: and if she's at mine, she's on her phone. She's

1243
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 3: not she's not, you know, contributing to games, and it's

1244
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 3: just not fun. And when it gets like that, I

1245
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 3: don't know what couples should do or what works well.

1246
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 2: I would hope you don't end up in a situation

1247
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: where you're sitting there and being, you know, crap on

1248
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: a stump while everybody else is hopefully having a good time.

1249
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 2: And I have seen a little of that, but it

1250
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: is sort of a weird scenario. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven,

1251
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: eight hundred, the big one. If you're on the iHeartRadio app,

1252
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: streaming there or just checking us out, you can certainly

1253
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: click on the microphone and a message there. How do

1254
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: you decide though, And it is often the woman because

1255
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: they tend to because you guys have power in the relationship.

1256
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't mean that.

1257
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: In a derogatory way, but I mean that is sort

1258
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: of how it plays out. I've never been in a

1259
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: situation where I counted the time, but I mean, as

1260
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 2: the day goes on. You go to one place and

1261
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: then another place. I may be less active and engaged,

1262
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: but it's not personal. It's because I'm tired and I

1263
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: need a second wind, and I need a nap, and

1264
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 2: can I get some more food and and maybe some

1265
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: more loud obnoxious toys. Post holiday, there's maybe still a

1266
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: little of that in a lot of people's minds as

1267
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 2: we're heading home.

1268
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you can hear them say, her parents

1269
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 3: get more time. We're always second. I mean even with

1270
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 3: my in laws, and they were great. We always invited

1271
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: them to come with us. So it was kind of

1272
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: a joint family thing where it was my sister and

1273
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 3: her son and cousins and his parents and everybody always

1274
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 3: got along.

1275
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't a huge deal.

1276
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 3: But I know that my brother got married and we

1277
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 3: were all there were five sisters and two boys. My

1278
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: brother got married and he always went to his wife's

1279
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 3: house and we never got to see my brother and

1280
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 3: they would cancel last minute. Oh we're just they started

1281
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 3: this game and we stayed late, and we would be like,

1282
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 3: forget it. And so I we even as you know,

1283
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 3: young adults. When we were married, and my husband loved

1284
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 3: my brother and always wanted him around. He was always

1285
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 3: bombed that he My brother Derek never made it because

1286
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 3: his wife, you know, came first, and a lot of

1287
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 3: guys are like that.

1288
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta live with that. You got to

1289
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: wake up with that. You don't want her hacked off

1290
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 2: of you or all of a sudden your life. Yes,

1291
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 2: it's miserable on a whole lot of other levels. I know,

1292
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: but really you have to you have read it out. Yes,

1293
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 2: it's you have to be fair about it.

1294
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 3: Everybody wants to see their family members on Christmas and

1295
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 3: Mists and Thanksgiving.

1296
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: It's exhausting, yeah, I mean, and you want it to

1297
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Speaker 2: be fun. You shouldn't be in a situation where it's dread.

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01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 2: But oftentimes it becomes more for the people you're visiting

1299
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: than even yourself after like the second or third place

1300
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: that you've gone to or whatever. And for the kids.

1301
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,479
Speaker 2: Always it's always for the children. You know, my buddy Corby,

1302
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: you taught me that years ago. But I mean, it's

1303
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 2: one of those scenarios that I think we all struggle with.

1304
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: Here's the other side. You may not what about the

1305
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: in laws or other people who just don't want I'd

1306
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 2: rather go visit and then go back home and not

1307
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 2: have everything at your house. That was one of those

1308
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 2: things when I was a kid. It was nice when

1309
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 2: they came, but then when everybody would leave, I was

1310
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 2: then stuck. Moms putting me to work doing the cleanup.

1311
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: I hate that. I was like, I don't need to

1312
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: see these people. I'll go to their house and eat

1313
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: and come back home here and then play with my stuff.

1314
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 3: But it is, there should be plenty of different options

1315
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 3: unless you're you know, somebody's in Cincinnati and then somebody's

1316
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 3: down in you know, Kentucky somewhere or whatever.

1317
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: Maybe you drive in, stop in Kentucky and then head

1318
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati.

1319
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: But maybe in between maybe a little meat and Greek

1320
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: kind of scenario or whatever. Yeah, trading off with the

1321
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 2: kids and you're doing and exchange with the in laws

1322
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 2: or whatever.

1323
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 3: It becomes so stressful for couples and their kids that

1324
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 3: it's not even fun for everybody.

1325
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 2: And the whole point is for it to be fun, Yeah,

1326
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: and all the stuff that goes along with that. The

1327
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 2: other thing that's tough too is I mean, you could

1328
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 2: rotate them yearly and then what's hard also when they say, oh,

1329
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 2: it's no big deal. We understand, but you know that

1330
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 2: they do. They're like, argue them all the stuff. If

1331
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: I raised them for note much I carried them inside

1332
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: me got But I mean, if you have a choice

1333
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: of hey, here in the tri State or go visit

1334
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: the in laws at their place in Florida. While Florida

1335
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 2: seems really good right about now. In that's a good

1336
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: way to do it. We got a beach house. Everybody,

1337
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 2: come on down. That's the way to go. Five point

1338
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 2: three seven four nine, seven, eight hundred.

1339
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: The big one.

1340
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: How do you decide where you go? Do you rotate it?

1341
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: How do you play that out? Is it an all

1342
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: day thing or like a weekly? This week has been

1343
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: good because a lot of people had kids, have the

1344
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: weeks off, and then you know, people maybe the way

1345
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: their vacation time whatever's unspent, and the way the weekend's

1346
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: have falling, you'd burn up three days of vacation. You've

1347
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: go all of a sudden, you've got a whole week, right,

1348
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: so you could maybe spread it out right.

1349
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 3: One of the things I would do if I had kids,

1350
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: which I don't, if I saw that there was so

1351
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 3: much stress going on, I would say, go to your

1352
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 3: in laws and go have fun, and your dad and

1353
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 3: I are going to go on it and take a

1354
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 3: vacation together and just be by ourselves, and then when

1355
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 3: we come back, we'll spend the New Year with you.

1356
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 3: That's such a cool way maybe to look at it. Yeah, absolutely,

1357
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 3: I think that makes good sense. Let's get to springfield

1358
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 3: Ed with Sterling and Donnade on the big one. How

1359
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 3: is the celebration of Christmas and the holidays for you? You know,

1360
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 3: where do you go?

1361
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 2: How do you decide where you're going and who's happy

1362
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: and who's said?

1363
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 8: Actually, we spent.

1364
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Speaker 4: My kids are twenty six and twenty one now, and

1365
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 4: we spent twenty five years running around to everybody's house,

1366
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 4: my wife's family, mom and dad or divorced, so there's

1367
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 4: an extra set of people help that we need to

1368
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 4: go see. And it was absolutely free. Miserable. Yeah, I hated.

1369
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 4: I didn't even want to have I hated the day

1370
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 4: it came. I hated all of it. And now it

1371
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 4: went the other way though, where I upset my family

1372
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 4: so much to where they don't even invite us anymore.

1373
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: But you is that better or worse?

1374
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 2: Because you don't have to have that weight on your

1375
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: shoulders or do you feel like you've been kicked out

1376
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: and ostracized and no longer part of the group.

1377
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 4: The second half there because even though I couldn't always

1378
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 4: get there when the party started, we always try to

1379
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 4: make an appearance. But now I don't even get the invitations.

1380
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 4: So in the end, they kind of backfired in our face,

1381
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 4: and my wife was all down with it too. Families

1382
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 4: from Tennessee, a couple of them live up here. But

1383
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 4: when I was a kid, we used to go to

1384
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 4: Tennessee for Christmas, and then my dad was from up here,

1385
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 4: and we used to come back and you know what

1386
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 4: they did. This was so smart. We did Christmas down there,

1387
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 4: and then when we came back up here, we met

1388
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 4: his family on New Year's New Year's Eve. Yeah, that's great.

1389
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 4: That's wrong with you people?

1390
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: What did you do for Christmas this year? Was it

1391
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: just you and your wife?

1392
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 4: Then, well, my my daughter has a boyfriend who has children.

1393
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 4: We went over there. My wife had to work Christmas Day,

1394
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 4: so we didn't stay real long, and we went back

1395
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 4: over Christmas Day to have like breakfast with them, and

1396
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 4: then that was it.

1397
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Speaker 1: That sounds pretty good to me, though, No, no.

1398
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, No, I swear I'm not complaining. Yeah,

1399
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, then all of a sudden that's never

1400
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 4: happened to us until like five years ago, saiding, I'm

1401
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 4: going back home and I'm sitting on the couch, like,

1402
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 4: what are we going to do now?

1403
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1404
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you can always say, listen, we we understand.

1405
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 3: We we want to be invited again, and we're going

1406
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 3: to take whatever we can get.

1407
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: You can do that too well, and you can do that.

1408
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 4: What's my problem is is, uh, I go the other way.

1409
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 4: If you upset me, then I'm just gonna try to

1410
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:26,879
Speaker 4: upset you.

1411
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: More back and.

1412
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 4: Forth and not not not not like getting in fight.

1413
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying I'm not gonna I was always

1414
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 4: a black sheep of the family and I always see

1415
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 4: the black sheep, and so I'm not bowing down then nobody.

1416
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get it. I've been that guy too. Yeah.

1417
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 3: But then you're alone, sitting on your couch by yourself

1418
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 3: on Christmas.

1419
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: That's what happens.

1420
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 4: I've got my wife, I got my wife and my

1421
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 4: two dogs.

1422
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm okay, Yeah, you're you're not hurting in that way.

1423
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: I appreciate your sharing that it seems like you found

1424
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: a balance too. We appreciate you listening to being a

1425
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: part of the show so much. Yeah, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven,

1426
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: eight hundred the Big One. You can talk back the

1427
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app or at Stirling Radio one X as well.

1428
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: It is a tough thing.

1429
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't want it to be so stressful

1430
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: that you're going here, there and everywhere else. But I

1431
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: would imagine there's a lot of people, like Ed talked

1432
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: about that, whether you've done Christmas in one place and

1433
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 2: then the other half New Year's, you're getting a little

1434
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: taste of that.

1435
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: Flip it on the following year.

1436
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 3: The following year, we get to do Christmas with my

1437
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 3: parents and then we'll go to your New Year's and

1438
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 3: because New Year is really fun too. I mean I

1439
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 3: know that it's fun with the kids and they get

1440
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 3: to open the presence and it's a blast, and we

1441
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 3: did have fun with that. But if they wanted to

1442
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 3: do something, then yeah, we'll do it all.

1443
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: Stuff it.

1444
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 2: Maybe you stick out who has the better food, They

1445
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 2: do better dinner, they do better breakfast, Go to the

1446
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 2: brunch and do the breakfast, whatever else it happens to be,

1447
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 2: and play it that way. I mean that that's I

1448
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 2: don't know, is that bad like you know, well, I

1449
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 2: don't know. They do some weird stuff with like the

1450
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: giblets and stuff. I will, right, we'll go to dinner

1451
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: there and we'll do lunch with the other place or

1452
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 2: something along those lines. That's the way my mind works.

1453
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 2: You know, well your food or I am I totally.

1454
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 2: No one would believe it looking at me, but I

1455
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 2: totally am.

1456
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: I really. It's just it's a tough spot.

1457
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 2: You don't want to make anybody unhappy and disappoint them.

1458
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 2: And that's the thing that has been more and more

1459
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 2: that has weighed on me over time. I want to

1460
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 2: see these people also because I know my elders, you know,

1461
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: the parents, you know, aunts, uncles and stuff.

1462
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: We're not here forever.

1463
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: So you know, when I was a teenager, it was

1464
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 2: all right, great and my friends had come by, and

1465
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 2: then we go from one house to another house to

1466
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 2: another house, and everybody would try to feed us. But

1467
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: we were tired of the parents. We wanted to, you know,

1468
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 2: because we were trying to stretch out and be our

1469
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 2: own people. Now I embrace the other side of that

1470
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 2: more because I know the time is short, right.

1471
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: And that is something to take in consideration.

1472
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 3: You know how old the parents are and how many

1473
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 3: you know, Christmases you have left to be with them,

1474
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 3: that that should being something in consideration for sure.

1475
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 2: Let's see, we got a couple here, five, one, three, seven,

1476
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 2: eight hundred of the big one. Let's get Luke and

1477
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 2: then John's what's all of a sudden, we're doing biblical speak,

1478
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 2: Uh big players in the Bible? Uh Luke chapter ten

1479
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: twenty two. I think it's one of my favorites. What's

1480
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 2: going on Luke or with Sterling on the big one?

1481
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: Hey?

1482
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, he just you know, I have three children. One

1483
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 8: is just becoming a young adult. I have one at the time,

1484
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 8: but I have one in the middle of that. And

1485
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 8: my middle child, I have a baby mother. He's in

1486
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 8: her house right, not for Christmas, but I had it

1487
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 8: for christ Steve long story, short days thought always got

1488
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 8: perfect or you know Palmark or Disney type of blow

1489
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 8: to enjoy your family. But we have a very great family.

1490
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 8: Everyone is very fortunate.

1491
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 9: And I just called it.

1492
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 8: No matter what it looks like, what your dynamic is,

1493
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 8: there's no reason not to be happy, to be thankful

1494
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 8: and realize how bleased we are in this country. If

1495
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 8: your kids are healthy, you're not wanting to point there's

1496
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 8: no reason not to be able to just.

1497
01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 7: Back and run.

1498
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 8: And how thanks, how great it to be alive to

1499
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 8: be in this country. Happy holidays everybody, and take a

1500
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 8: deep breath and just enjoy what's right in front of you.

1501
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 2: Well stated, Yeah, Luke, thank you man. Yeah, And it's true.

1502
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 2: I mean, look around and how blessed we are.

1503
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's important to have a view of gratitude

1504
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 3: for what you have now and the more that you're

1505
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 3: grateful for. Like you said, having healthy kids that that's

1506
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 3: a big deal. Putting stress on them does not work

1507
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 3: at all. And and you know it makes everybody feel

1508
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 3: like instead of yay.

1509
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: We get to go to Grandma's or yeay we get

1510
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: to go to Auntie's or yeah we get to go

1511
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: to you know, Uncle Sterlings such right, Yeah, and I

1512
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: give loud toys batteries extra batteries, right Levin and John

1513
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: with Sterling and Donna Dee on the big one the

1514
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: John thanks for holding What do you have?

1515
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 2: How do you decide where to go? Or are they

1516
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 2: coming to you? Or what do you do?

1517
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 9: I tell you that for me is a realistic expectations.

1518
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 9: I've been divorce eighteen years. I'm remarried, so you've got

1519
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 9: a lot of exes and hills, and it was really

1520
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 9: easy to just make a decision that if my ex

1521
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 9: wanted the kids on Thanksgiving or Christmas Eve, to just

1522
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 9: go with that and then say Christmas Day is our day,

1523
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 9: or we do Thanksgiving on Saturday. And once you set

1524
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 9: that and you know it's going to happen, then everybody's

1525
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 9: really pretty happy with those things. And as far as

1526
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 9: extended family, my side of the family, we just get

1527
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 9: together a few weeks before Christmas and then nobody has

1528
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 9: to run around to different houses on Christmas Day. We

1529
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 9: just plan a day and have open a single gift

1530
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 9: and everybody has a good time.

1531
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 3: That's great, and I think a lot of people are

1532
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,600
Speaker 3: doing that, John. They're they're either doing way before or

1533
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,799
Speaker 3: way after, and that seems to work like a dream.

1534
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: That's pretty good to appreciate the call up, John, Thank

1535
01:14:58,439 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 2: you man, appreciate you listening to be a part of

1536
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 2: the show.

1537
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: I hope you have a great new year. A set

1538
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: some expectations, set some boundaries. You go there, they go here,

1539
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: and you know it should work out, but it does

1540
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 1: get stressful for a lot of people because their feelings

1541
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: get hurt. People do very much, they get they get

1542
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 1: cases of the goo, and you don't want that.

1543
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 2: You know the other thing my mother made and you're

1544
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 2: a vegan, so but just roll with this. So she

1545
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: made this big beef frost, right, and uh, it was

1546
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 2: gonna make beef stew and stuff, and that she had

1547
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 2: plates out, but it seemed more of a bowl thing.

1548
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: And I caught the side eye and flashed back to

1549
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 2: feeling like I was the eight year old sterling, like

1550
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,480
Speaker 2: I had crossed the line of impropriety.

1551
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: And I said, what's the problem.

1552
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 2: I said, you know, it's like me when I'm using

1553
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 2: tortillas for everything, right, I wrap everything in a tortilla, right, bread,

1554
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 2: I'm in good shape. And she's like, well, that's a

1555
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 2: plate meal. That's not a bowl meal. I said, real,

1556
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: are you serious? I said, what is the difference? I said,

1557
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 2: it's not it's not she goes, it's not cereal. It's

1558
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 2: not soup, I said, but it is saucy. I mean,

1559
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what you do. And that's the thing.

1560
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I can't. I forgot your house, your rules,

1561
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:03,759
Speaker 2: my business.

1562
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: It's tough. So then you got that too.

1563
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, you're gonna really cap on me because

1564
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm using a bowl instead of a plate. Happy Christmas mom. Yeah,

1565
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: there you go, So no pressure, no worries.

1566
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,759
Speaker 1: It goes along with funny how little things like that

1567
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: come up during the holidays. Absolutely, I mean the other

1568
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: big way, why did you make coconut cake? I don't

1569
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 1: like coconut cake? Well, we didn't.

1570
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 3: That's the only dessert I wanted to make. Well we

1571
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 3: should have had pumpkin pie or bacon pie or something.

1572
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: Oh hi, I mean seriously, I made.

1573
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 3: The best coconut cake. And I don't bake at all.

1574
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 3: I do not, and I decided I was gonna make it,

1575
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 3: and it came out so good.

1576
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: About that? Look at your face, that's like the happiest,

1577
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,839
Speaker 1: like brightest I've seen it a lot. Near like starving.

1578
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight that might be. When does the hallucination start? So?

1579
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 1: How many hours are you into your friends? Twenty four

1580
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: hours in? See, I started about one more day.

1581
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 2: I ate about three thirty in the morning, had a

1582
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 2: big thing of pancakes I made because I was hungry.

1583
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 2: After the show, now, but so I haven't eaten since

1584
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: then and I'm starting.

1585
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 1: To Okay, so it's three the year getting on. Yeah,

1586
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: it's tough. This is why the show probably better eighteen

1587
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: hours into it. Better if i'd eating, Probably the show

1588
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: and well you got some crackers over there.

1589
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm trying to stay strong and stick to it,

1590
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1591
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: It's just one of those things.

1592
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: You're five o'clock reports straight away, more on how you

1593
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 2: decide to go fasting hallucinating. Yeah, there's a whole lot

1594
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 2: before Chick led Ludwig steps in On a Saturday afternoon,

1595
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 2: Stirling and Donna d here, home of the best Bengals

1596
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 2: coverage seven hundredu W well W Cincinnati. Here we are

1597
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 2: final hour together Saturday. It's getting dark, I'll call it evening,

1598
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 2: and everything's topsy turvy. Kick Chris stops in says, hello,

1599
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 2: Chick was in here. Chick's gonna follow us. He's before you.

1600
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 2: The chick is like the Oreo filling and together we

1601
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 2: are the chocolate cooking, and then you are the chocolate

1602
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 2: cooking on the other side.

1603
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: He's the goodness in between. With sports talk.

1604
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 3: He's got Sean McMahon sitting in tonight too, and he's

1605
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 3: he's Sean is great.

1606
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 1: Is glad to hear that? Absolutely? For sure.

1607
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: We got a lot going on. We were talking about

1608
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: New Year's and resolutions and living better and relationships in

1609
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:19,480
Speaker 2: the end of the year and divorce because boy, that's uplifting, uh,

1610
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 2: But also with the holidays, because so many people are

1611
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 2: on the road coming home now from wherever they've been

1612
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 2: for Christmas time on one side of the family or

1613
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 2: the other, or maybe a vacation. Hopefully that would be good, right, uh,

1614
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 2: In trying to figure out as you were saying earlier, Donna,

1615
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 2: and like you know, you go to the wife's side,

1616
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 2: husband's side, you know, extended relatives or whatever else, and

1617
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 2: it gets complicated and occasionally ugly.

1618
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 3: And it gets stressful for the for the kiddos that

1619
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 3: have to, you know, go to the moms and we're

1620
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 3: going to moms.

1621
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: We're going to my hat mom's house.

1622
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 3: Then we'll go to yours and then we'll do this

1623
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 3: and it becomes pretty stressful.

1624
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: But you know the bottom line is if you.

1625
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 3: If you you know, want to visit everybody, set some boundaries,

1626
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 3: set some expectations. We're going to be here we're going

1627
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 3: to be there, no scorekeeping, don't worry about that. I'm

1628
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 3: going to be three hours here and then I'm only

1629
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 3: two hours at your house.

1630
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: So speed me and give me a drink. That's all

1631
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: I want. I'll come to your house.

1632
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 3: The point is to have fun, Like what kind of

1633
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 3: a Christmas was it for you? For me, it was

1634
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 3: a real fun Christmas Eve, Christmas Day?

1635
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: Well you were sick or you mean in general? I'm

1636
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: sorry I was callack.

1637
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 3: In general, it was a very fun, heart filled Christmas

1638
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 3: for me, and it will be for New Year's as well.

1639
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to see some and so forth, never

1640
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 2: enough and now I crave that so much. And you

1641
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 2: know what, and I mentioned that we can have a

1642
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 2: little fun with this too, is maybe the ups gift

1643
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 2: the bad gift, either the bad choice that you've made

1644
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 2: or the bad gift that someone made for you the

1645
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 2: choice and you're like, really you thought of me with this?

1646
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 2: And I always try to have something for someone. And

1647
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: miani Leen used to give me and she hates it

1648
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 2: when I bring it up, but it's too late. I'm

1649
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 2: going to do it again. For years from one a

1650
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 2: time I was a tiny sterling. She would give me

1651
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 2: British Sterling Clone because she thought it was, you.

1652
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 1: Know, clever, because it's your name, and I was like

1653
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 1: really again.

1654
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 2: But at some point I don't know if it was

1655
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 2: I was here, or if it was on Channel Z

1656
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 2: when it before it became kiss, whatever it was, I

1657
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 2: mentioned it and it got back to her or she

1658
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: heard it because she listens and family and friends do

1659
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 2: and they and all of a sudden she put the

1660
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 2: full on stop on the British Sterling Clone. And I

1661
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 2: have been devastated ever since. I mean I did have

1662
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 2: like a lot. I was donating it. I was you

1663
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 2: need something to sprint? Yeah, But that's I will if

1664
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 2: I live to one hundred and ten, which I won't

1665
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: because no matter how much yogurt did I do, or

1666
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,480
Speaker 2: yogurt or fasting that I do to the point of hallucination,

1667
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 2: I'm not making about fifteen or ten or one. I'm

1668
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 2: lucky to make seventy at this point. But I will

1669
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 2: embrace in fond memories of thinking of Iley and giving

1670
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 2: me the British Stirling term. So if you got something

1671
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 2: like that or where you put your foot in it,

1672
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 2: by the way, you could do that too. Five three, seven, four, nine,

1673
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 2: seven eight hundred, the big one, Stirling and Donnade hanging out.

1674
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: Let's get some people been holding on this and we

1675
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 2: get some others lined up. We'll get to Xenia and

1676
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 2: Paul and then Sue and mRNA on seven hundred WLW.

1677
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 2: What's going on, Paul, what do you have?

1678
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 6: Well, earlier today I didn't get in, but you were

1679
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 6: talking about New Year's resolutions. Yes, well, my New Year's resolutions.

1680
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 6: It disjustes me greatly that I hear so many of

1681
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 6: the young folks are taking God's name in vain. I

1682
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 6: think that anybody that is capable should bite your tongue

1683
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 6: before they come out with a cuss word and take

1684
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 6: our Savior's name in vain. And it really distresses me,

1685
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 6: and I think the parents should distress it. I don't

1686
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 6: know if it's going on in school. I've been out

1687
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 6: of school a long time.

1688
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,839
Speaker 7: I don't know what goes on in school.

1689
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 2: Well, I totally get what you're saying, Paul, and I

1690
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 2: understand that. And yeah, I mean I bite my tongue

1691
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 2: all the time, and usually it has nothing to do

1692
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 2: with the Lord's name in vain.

1693
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: So I totally get what you're saying. No, Yeah.

1694
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 3: My mom used to hate that. She would say, never

1695
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 3: take the Lord's name in vain. We weren't even to say,

1696
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 3: you know, Jesus Christ. We were never even allowed to

1697
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 3: say that.

1698
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 2: She's and Rice. I think it means the same thing anyway.

1699
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 2: That's the Paul. We appreciate the call man. We totally

1700
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 2: get it, and we appreciate it. That's tough. And see,

1701
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 2: that's the thing my mom would always say. She goes, well,

1702
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 2: you still are thinking and her meaning it even though

1703
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 2: you said something else. And I'm like, and then she'd

1704
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 2: put that in my head. Yeah, I'm like, thanks for

1705
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 2: that depth charge.

1706
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 3: It was never it doesn't ever feel good when you

1707
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 3: say g damn it, you know, or anything like that.

1708
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: I can't believe. Yeah, No, you're absolutely right. Let's to No.

1709
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree. I'm wholesome and innocent. I'd like to drive.

1710
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 2: I am pure as the driven snow, not yellow snow.

1711
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 2: But I mean I do what I can to Covington

1712
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 2: and Sue. Then Murna was Stirling in Donnade on the

1713
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 2: Big One. Sue, how's everything? Holiday traditions? Your house, their house,

1714
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:22,719
Speaker 2: across the you know, the planet Earth.

1715
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't know iowall, what do you do? Where do

1716
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: you go? How do you decide?

1717
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 10: Well, now most my parents are gone, but when we

1718
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 10: were growing up, when Daddy came back from nore we

1719
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 10: ended up in Eastern Kentucky and where my brother was

1720
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:44,799
Speaker 10: born the next year, and my father's from Northern Ohio.

1721
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 10: My mother's from Center Kentucky. So they started they would alternate.

1722
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 10: One year we would go to Northern Ohio for Thanksgiving

1723
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 10: and Center Kentucky for Christmas. The next year we would

1724
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 10: flip it and go to Center Kentucky for Thanksgiving in

1725
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 10: Northern Ohio. But we were always at home on New

1726
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 10: Year's so much to the point that when my parents

1727
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 10: would go out to parties for New Year's they would

1728
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 10: be home before midnight, which my brother and I carried

1729
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 10: on even when we grew up and were away from

1730
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 10: home and came home. If we went to parties, we

1731
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 10: would break our nets to be sure we were home

1732
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 10: by midnight.

1733
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 2: Well that's a smart one, Yeah, yeah, it was all

1734
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 2: the way around. It sounds like you had a good plan.

1735
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 2: But the other thing that I think is interesting about

1736
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 2: that too, is that you were ahead of the curve

1737
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 2: on the idea of that being amateur night, and you

1738
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 2: didn't want to be out there on the roads with

1739
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 2: everybody else getting tanked up.

1740
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 1: They normally don't drink. They're hitting the bottle.

1741
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 2: Hard and making bad choices instead of getting a ride,

1742
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 2: getting behind the wheels.

1743
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 1: So you're smart. You were way ahead of the curve. That'sous.

1744
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 10: That was the way we were raised, and that was

1745
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 10: our family tradition. And everybody thought it was so weird

1746
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 10: that my brother and I would leave a party. It'd

1747
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,600
Speaker 10: be home with our parents for New Years. So we

1748
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 10: would go out on the porch and we're in cow

1749
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 10: bells and yell like all the rest.

1750
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 1: There's something so sweet about that, it really is it fantastic, Sue,

1751
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: have a fantastic new You really appreciate you listening and

1752
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: being part of the show.

1753
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 10: Well, I really enjoyed listening to you two light.

1754
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much. You take care.

1755
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sue. That was great. That was really nice.

1756
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 2: Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight hundred The

1757
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 2: big one. I remember pots and pans when I was

1758
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 2: a kid. That that's what they would sit in front

1759
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 2: of me, beat some pots and pans and then you

1760
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,799
Speaker 2: get jiffy pop. They still selfie pop was the best,

1761
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 2: and I could stand on a stool careful. She was like,

1762
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 2: you gotta be careful of the flame. Natural and you

1763
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,719
Speaker 2: watch that thing swell up like an infected oil gland,

1764
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 2: and then it would burst and the popcorn.

1765
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 1: Would come out. That's good times.

1766
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 2: The best New Year's absolutely to college Hell and Murna

1767
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 2: was stirling in Donnade on the Big One.

1768
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 1: Murna, what do you have? What's going on?

1769
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 11: I'm still around, I'm old, but I'm still here. I'm

1770
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 11: most miserable. Christmas is when my daughter, when our daughter

1771
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 11: was married, she was our only child, and the first

1772
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 11: year they spent Christmas Eve with his family, Christmas Morning

1773
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 11: with his family, and he wouldn't they wouldn't come here

1774
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 11: till like two o'clock in the afternoon, and so my

1775
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 11: dad's My husband said, well, that's the first year. Daughter

1776
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 11: probably does want to make waves go with his Well,

1777
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,679
Speaker 11: the next year, the same thing happened, and he blew

1778
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 11: my husband. He said, your mother got up at six

1779
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 11: o'clock in the morning, put on the turkey, she baked

1780
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 11: pies yesterday. You come in here half asleep. You're not

1781
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 11: hungry because you ate snacks over there, he said, this

1782
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 11: is not going to happen.

1783
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 4: They can't.

1784
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 1: Wow, and did what happened from there?

1785
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 11: They went there on Christmas Eve and came here on Christmas.

1786
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 3: Well, I mean sometimes your kids need to know that

1787
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 3: this is really important to you. If it's important to you,

1788
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 3: you can talk to them and and and reason with them.

1789
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: I think that was good.

1790
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 11: Absolutely, you just stood up after dinner and just told them.

1791
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 2: What was Sometimes you got to put your foot down,

1792
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 2: tell people what you want or what you need.

1793
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 1: And if they don't listen, then you then you have

1794
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: to let them do what they can always make more so,

1795
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's how that is, how young

1796
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: they are. Have a great new year. It was good

1797
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:37,879
Speaker 1: to talk to you. Take care of yourself.

1798
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 11: I'm here to celebrate another new year, the eighty nine

1799
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 11: in March.

1800
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: Wow, good for you. That's excellent. Pushing it won't be

1801
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: long if you hit the hundle.

1802
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 3: You can hear the emotion though in her voice, because

1803
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 3: that is it's hard when because she said it was

1804
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 3: horrible Christmases having to having to do that, and it

1805
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 3: does hit you hard when you know your kids aren't

1806
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 3: thinking about it like that.

1807
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: I like to put the fun in dysfunction. Yea. Personally,

1808
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: I was trying to embrace that overall. I mean, I

1809
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: just it's true, it's chaos, but it's all good.

1810
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 2: But the other thing that goes along with that, I

1811
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 2: can remember I always felt like if someone put it

1812
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 2: and was directed by my mom, I was raised this way.

1813
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 2: If they're going to offer food, you gotta eat. So

1814
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 2: everywhere I went, all my buddies' houses, you know, and

1815
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 2: their parents, and then my house and then on away

1816
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 2: it went. We ate like a ton of meals. And

1817
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 2: they always want to send you home with food. Like

1818
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 2: right now, I guarantee you people driving up seventy one,

1819
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 2: seventy five, seventy four that they're in the trunk in

1820
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 2: the cooler, or they just took it to be polite

1821
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 2: and then they dumped it when they gassed up the car,

1822
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 2: Like I'm not eating that stuff again. If you're on

1823
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 2: that out there, there's a whole lot of leftovers in

1824
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 2: transit right now on this twenty seventh December, you know,

1825
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 2: after Christmas and leading into the new year.

1826
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: I guarantee it. I cannot be the only one pull light.

1827
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 3: When you go to somebody and you can snack, you

1828
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 3: can snack. You don't have to have full meals unless

1829
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 3: it's a sit down dinner that you're planning to stay

1830
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 3: to stay there for a while, like the beef froze to.

1831
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't put it in a bowl. I'm telling you.

1832
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 2: I flashed back to balone. Don't ask for a ball.

1833
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 2: I didn't even ask. I just I reached up into

1834
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 2: the cabin and she just shot me the look. That's

1835
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 2: all I needed. I was like, oh man, I'm eight again.

1836
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 9: This is it.

1837
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 2: It just never grow out of that type of situation.

1838
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 2: Lots of other stuff to get to before we're done.

1839
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:33,520
Speaker 2: There's New Year's around the corner, Bengals in action, tomorrow,

1840
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 2: Cardinals in town, and my guess is with the it's

1841
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 2: going to be like sixty something degrees. Yeah, I mean,

1842
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 2: I'm telling you I would not normally think about going

1843
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 2: out in the end of December to go play, uh

1844
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 2: and maybe check out some tailgating.

1845
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 1: But if not tomorrow win.

1846
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 3: Well, because yeah, it's a people can just wear their

1847
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 3: Bengals jerseys and not have to put on.

1848
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 1: Jackets and mittens and and stuff. Yeah, it's kind it's

1849
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 1: kind of a nice surprise. It absolutely is.

1850
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 2: Five one, three, seven four nine seven eight hundred the

1851
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 2: Big One about ten minutes away from Brady Hopkins. Another

1852
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 2: update on news and what's going on around planet Earth

1853
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 2: and what matters to us here in the Tri State

1854
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 2: Quick break though, your chance to get an interactive straight

1855
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 2: away seven hundred double ULW sterling a. Donnade hanging out

1856
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:26,879
Speaker 2: seven hundred double LW. Joe Waddell producing, and Brady Hopkins

1857
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: with news in four minutes from right this very second.

1858
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 2: So hang out, that is if we're on time, and

1859
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 2: I will be on time. Donnakayod you disturbed me, And

1860
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean that the nicest a way, of course. Uh,

1861
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 2: you said something right we were going into the break.

1862
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 2: I think it may be an opportunity for some of us.

1863
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 2: And you mentioned some statistic about women of a certain

1864
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 2: age being single by choice. Help me understand.

1865
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of a crazy statistic that they've come

1866
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 3: up with. Apparently, by twenty thirty, nearly fifty percent of

1867
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 3: women twenty five to forty five will be single by choice.

1868
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's good for society or if

1869
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 3: it's bad.

1870
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 2: But how many are single now? I want to know,

1871
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 2: by choice or not. That's one bit of data I

1872
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 2: would like to know.

1873
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's not. Let me see if I can

1874
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: find that. So I think one is you guys, you can,

1875
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 1: I shouldn't. It's a mixed metaphor. You guys, I wasn't single.

1876
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 1: I was married at twenty No, I understand.

1877
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 2: But you have a Women can be with anybody anytime

1878
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 2: that they want to, because you're women. I mean seriously,

1879
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 2: and I mean because it's just the.

1880
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: Way it is.

1881
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 6: Right.

1882
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 2: Well, all right, it may not be who you want

1883
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 2: to be with, but you can you can be with

1884
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 2: anybody anytime that you want.

1885
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:51,839
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, dudes do not live that way. Well, okay,

1886
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot in there, sterling. What what is what?

1887
01:31:56,200 --> 01:32:01,520
Speaker 1: What they're seeing? The trend is that women can now.

1888
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 3: Equal rights, So they're getting paid more and they're finding

1889
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 3: out that they're making even more money than some guys.

1890
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 3: So you have economic freedom of women now and twenty

1891
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 3: five to forty five and beyond, and they're prioritizing self

1892
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:26,799
Speaker 3: discovery and career ascension above above marriage and children.

1893
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 2: So, in other words, women's needs versus once the needs

1894
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 2: they can handle, and we in relationship circumstance, it's a

1895
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 2: matter of wanting to be with someone when you want

1896
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 2: to and who you want to, rather than in desperation.

1897
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,759
Speaker 2: I need a roof, I need food on the table

1898
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 2: and a man to take care of you.

1899
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 1: Correct.

1900
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 3: Well, there's a definite shift that's going on where there's

1901
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 3: more women in the workforce ever before.

1902
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: They're everywhere and I love it.

1903
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 3: And they're making just as much money, if not more.

1904
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 1: So does that mean I could be a man? You

1905
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 1: could be if you wanted to. Is that a bad thing?

1906
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: It's kind of I don't want to be kept in

1907
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to be independent as a dude too.

1908
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of stay at home dads that

1909
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 3: do wonderful work and take care of the house and

1910
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 3: the kids, and then you know, it's.

1911
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 1: A thankless job. It is a thankless job.

1912
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 2: Not enough love and respect. They downplay you, act like

1913
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 2: it's nothing. You stress around all day long in the house.

1914
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 2: Women come home from work, they just want to drink

1915
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 2: and be left alone, and we want to yap the

1916
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 2: app y app about the day.

1917
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 1: And put and put the football game on. They're good,

1918
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: that's right. It's everything's just upside down.

1919
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 3: It is an interesting dynamic and it's not changing. It's

1920
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 3: only getting and growing for women those ages. Now, I'm sure,

1921
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 3: I mean fifty that's one in two.

1922
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can do basically math that right. Statement, that's

1923
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 1: not Lance's Butler math, that's right. State hell, that's E. J.

1924
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 1: Brown Elementary remat. Everyone can do it. Fifty one outed two,

1925
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 1: that's a big number, you know, And I'm curious how

1926
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 1: many like is it? If that's choice, then about us

1927
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 1: guys in that situation too. I mean, that's more about equality, right,

1928
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 1: and women can do You guys are a beauty. You

1929
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 1: are so far beyond us in every way anyway. I'm

1930
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: enamored and overwhelmed, and I'm not sucking up and hoping

1931
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 1: that this is going to benefit me after the show.

1932
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm just simply saying, we'll come back after your five

1933
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 2: point thirty report. Brady has an idea as to what's

1934
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 2: going on. Mister Hopkins disseminates mess quantity of news. Stirling

1935
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 2: and Donna d come back. We want to know are

1936
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 2: you going to be one of those half of the

1937
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 2: women choosing to be single?

1938
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: And why?

1939
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 3: Or if you had a choice back then and you

1940
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 3: could go to work and didn't want to get would

1941
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 3: you have gotten married and had kids, right, and stay

1942
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 3: at home or maybe a big deal. That's a big

1943
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 3: question to ask.

1944
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 2: And these are player women, right, I mean, these are

1945
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 2: women that are out there playing the field. So they'll

1946
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 2: hurt me, but they don't want to. They just want

1947
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 2: to visit and then lead, which actually sounds pretty damn

1948
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 2: good to me too. News time now Sterling and Donna

1949
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 2: d coming back seven hundred w welw Hey, how you

1950
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 2: doing this? Sterling and Donna d rolling till six. We've

1951
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 2: seen Chick Ludwig. You will hear from Chick Ludwig after

1952
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 2: the news at the top of the hour, and he

1953
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:22,919
Speaker 2: will have some sports talk. My guess is JJ Bledet.

1954
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 2: He'll talk about the Red signing. That guy was an

1955
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 2: A or yeah, it was an Oakland A, then he

1956
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 2: was a Vegas A and then soon or it will

1957
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 2: be a Vegas A. But he it was in a

1958
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,679
Speaker 2: Sacramento a's uniform. I think, I don't know. I don't

1959
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 2: know how that goes. I've always liked the As since

1960
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:40,600
Speaker 2: the Reds swept them, but then they were horrible and

1961
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 2: I feel good, you know, love for underdog teams. Yeah,

1962
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 2: now you've got a guy who comes from that and

1963
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 2: hopefully will bring something to the through the Reds.

1964
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 1: They need help. Well, Chick is very excited to talk

1965
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 1: about that tonight.

1966
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got that. Bengals and Cardinals tomorrow. It will

1967
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 2: almost feel like summertime. Yeah, I may be exaggerating a

1968
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 2: little bit. It'll be short weather, and I mean in

1969
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 2: the sixties almost seventy, right, pneumonia weather is what my

1970
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 2: grandmother would call.

1971
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 3: I'm excited about it. I'm ready, all ready for warm weather.

1972
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:09,879
Speaker 3: It's been chilli this year.

1973
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 1: Already, absolutely has.

1974
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 2: Now I want to backtrack just a little bit right

1975
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 2: before the break, will give you a chance to sound off.

1976
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 2: He'd like there were some ladies and guys on this too.

1977
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 2: This is a really wild thing. You were talking about

1978
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 2: a statistic from a basically retirement and financial company, so

1979
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 2: they are on top of this in a different ways.

1980
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 2: People plan for their future.

1981
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Morgan Stanley.

1982
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 3: They did a US census based on demographic trends and

1983
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:39,719
Speaker 3: they project by twenty thirty about forty five to fifty

1984
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 3: percent of women in the ages of twenty five to

1985
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 3: forty four will be single and childless my choice.

1986
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:51,639
Speaker 2: And that's obviously here in the States. In industrialized countries,

1987
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 2: richer countries, the birth rates have been declining significantly, and

1988
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 2: you know, the idea from immigration and so forth was

1989
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 2: a benefit to bring workers in and then obviously to

1990
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 2: propagate and keep paying into social Security and all the

1991
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 2: other stuff. That has certainly slowed down here domestically. So

1992
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:11,639
Speaker 2: the question is with AI and the pealing of jobs,

1993
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:16,520
Speaker 2: is this including that concept that they'll be less beneficial

1994
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,640
Speaker 2: or I guess appealing candidates for them, or they just

1995
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 2: want to be fancy.

1996
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 1: Free and that is a good question. They're fat with cash.

1997
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 3: Well, here's the there's four reasons for this trend, according

1998
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 3: to Morgan Stanley, changing norms about marriage, so marriage is

1999
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 3: no longer seen as required life like a required life milestone.

2000
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 1: Sin, I've done that. Well, nothing about that.

2001
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm still going to say marriage isn't essential to

2002
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 3: a fulfilling life. That's what they're seeing, a greater economic independence.

2003
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 3: We know there's more women in the workforce than ever before,

2004
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 3: and they're getting equal.

2005
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 1: Pay now like a strong.

2006
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 3: Well, of course, it's nice, you know, they're they're they're

2007
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 3: priority careers early on and they're getting you know, married

2008
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 3: later on. It doesn't mean that they're never going to

2009
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 3: get married. They're just they want their careers first and

2010
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 3: then marriage.

2011
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: May come later.

2012
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 3: So they're marrying later on in life, just focusing on

2013
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 3: their education and their careers and then complex relationship market,

2014
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 3: it says. Some research and cultural commentary notes that people

2015
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 3: of all genders face mismatches in dating expectations priorities. Everybody's

2016
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 3: on dating apps, so I mean nobody meets up like that,

2017
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 3: like we used to go to a concert and meet

2018
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 3: somebody or true at a bar. Used to be nightclubs, bars, concerts.

2019
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure people are still doing that.

2020
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:46,680
Speaker 1: But at our age, at our age, that's how I

2021
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 1: met My husband was playing in a band. You've seen

2022
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 1: him or talk to him in yours, But I know

2023
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:57,639
Speaker 1: the guys certainly. Of course, everybody knew him in Cincinnati.

2024
01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 2: A lot of bar gigs, different times, different times, That's right,

2025
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 2: It's for sure. So how you know what's interesting about this?

2026
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 2: Does what does that mean that we as guys won't

2027
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 2: be able to find the women that we want in

2028
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 2: that twenty five to forty four year old range, or

2029
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 2: is it that the guys are making the same choice,

2030
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 2: Because I've heard this from woman after woman after woman. Yeah,

2031
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 2: including younger women, some that I may have dated. I'm

2032
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 2: not saying I try to stay within my I don't

2033
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 2: want to be involved in an inappropriately aged, a separated relationship.

2034
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's good sometimes.

2035
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:38,599
Speaker 3: But well, twenty five to forty five is interesting because

2036
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 3: those are kind of the child bearing Oh yeah, you know,

2037
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 3: that's the age.

2038
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2039
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 3: So you know when I was twenty four and my

2040
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 3: husband was twenty two, that's when we met. We dated

2041
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 3: for a year, just like everybody else, engaged for a

2042
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 3: year and then got married in a year. So it

2043
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 3: was it was during that timeframe. I don't regret anything

2044
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 3: during that time. I fell in love with someone. I

2045
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 3: got married. My sister was married a year prior to me,

2046
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:11,679
Speaker 3: so it was great. But and I always worked throughout

2047
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 3: my marriage too. So I had a career in radio,

2048
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 3: I was graduating Xavier, and you know, I went to

2049
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 3: school later in life. And so I think women are

2050
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 3: just going to say, listen, let's date instead of getting

2051
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 3: let's figure out, you know, let me need.

2052
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 1: For a commitment. I kind of find this very appealing.

2053
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 1: There's something appealing about it.

2054
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 3: But you know, twenty five forty five, at the forty

2055
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 3: five range, if you still haven't had kids and you're

2056
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 3: still contemplating that's.

2057
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 1: A little tough.

2058
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 2: Well maybe they can adopt, or maybe you just don't

2059
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:48,600
Speaker 2: have to worry about the.

2060
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't want kids, that's what they're saying.

2061
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have any. I don't have anything.

2062
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 1: I don't have any, and you don't.

2063
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 3: Put all my sisters do, and they all have kids

2064
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 3: and grandkids and stuff now, and it's it's cute.

2065
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 1: It's not me, and it's not cute. I like that.

2066
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 1: It's cute that they have kids.

2067
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 3: No, it's cute when all the kids get they all

2068
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 3: chair pictures there. Yeah, we all have these group text

2069
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 3: and all the grandkids are super cute and everybody. And

2070
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:16,639
Speaker 3: sometimes I feel a little left out because I don't

2071
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 3: have any.

2072
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 1: But it was a choice I made, and I'm I

2073
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:22,679
Speaker 1: love being the uncle, yeah, I mean I really do.

2074
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 1: It's a lot of time.

2075
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 2: I mean I grew up, you know, with a single

2076
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 2: mom in hers and she had a big family like yours,

2077
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 2: a lot of siblings and my uncles and my aunts,

2078
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 2: I mean they I was always around them and my cousins,

2079
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 2: so I still had, you know a little bit of

2080
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 2: that mentoring and that sort of role modeling that was

2081
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 2: being done, but I didn't necessarily have all the other

2082
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 2: stuff in that end of it. But it's interesting when

2083
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 2: you start looking at that. And I've been told why

2084
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 2: you have a fear commitment or whatever, But I've been

2085
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 2: committed in long term monogamous relationships with a couple of

2086
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 2: different women at different times for years, but it just

2087
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 2: didn't work out timing with them and what they were

2088
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 2: doing and where I was, and you know, I left

2089
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:05,639
Speaker 2: here for work and came back here for work.

2090
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 3: Well that's exactly the point of this where where the

2091
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 3: study is, like women have they don't necessarily need to

2092
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 3: be married. They don't need to be married, and they

2093
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 3: don't want to have kids early on. They want to

2094
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 3: focus on their education and career and making money so

2095
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 3: they don't have to rely on men to do it.

2096
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 1: What happens later though, when there's so few people having

2097
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,679
Speaker 1: kids and then there's a shortage of population to do

2098
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:35,639
Speaker 1: whatever work is left to be done after AI comes through,

2099
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 1: because it's not going to do all the work.

2100
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:41,720
Speaker 3: Well, this is Elon Musk's nightmare of scenario, right. This

2101
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 3: is the thing that he fears most is that we

2102
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 3: are going to be out of the human race. I

2103
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:50,800
Speaker 3: don't think that's ever going to happen. How many there's

2104
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 3: eight billion people on the planet.

2105
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 1: Is that accurate?

2106
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 2: Somewhere somebody just got pregnant just now, somebody just that

2107
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 2: a kid, right, maybe listening to us.

2108
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'd rather not know that necessarily.

2109
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 3: But there's eight billion people humans on the planet. I

2110
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 3: don't see us going away unless there's a big asteroid.

2111
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 1: That hits us. Yeah, and then that's a whole that's

2112
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 1: a whole other problem. Yeah.

2113
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 2: I mean the other concept that has been talked about

2114
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 2: is paying people to have kids, right, And I don't

2115
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 2: know who pays for that. Why should my tax dollar

2116
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 2: dollars go for somebody else to pay them to have

2117
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 2: their babies. That's not my problem. I've made my choice,

2118
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 2: not my issue, though. We do have tax credits to

2119
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 2: help benefit people to help sort of navigate life in

2120
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 2: the added expenses. But the other thing I would imagine

2121
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 2: is part of this is think of the cost of

2122
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 2: childcare and all those hoops that you have to go through.

2123
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 2: Somebody either deciding that they're not going to pay to

2124
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 2: get the healthcare or I should say, the childcare, and

2125
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 2: maybe they stay home. Who makes that sacrifice if that

2126
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 2: is one, Even though maybe one would argue once you

2127
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 2: have kids, the way I was raised is that your

2128
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 2: only purpose is to try to set them up to

2129
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 2: have a better life for themselves. Then you kick them

2130
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 2: out of the house and then you can party. He

2131
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 2: had eighteen years.

2132
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 1: It's it. The free ride is over.

2133
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:09,759
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and there's tons of tax breaks for married

2134
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 3: couples and with children.

2135
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 1: What about all the single people. We don't have anythings, Terling.

2136
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 1: It's just we get jobbed constantly. Really, you know that

2137
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 1: that's the that's the thing. But if all these single

2138
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 1: women want like just to use and abuse somebody, I

2139
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 1: mean it's a single guy in that window. I mean

2140
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 1: that's a good place. Is that too young for you?

2141
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 3: Twenty five to forty five? Because you're we're both the

2142
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 3: same age.

2143
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 1: And I don't know what the rules are. Somebody told

2144
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 1: me five is not no, forty five is not for them. Uh.

2145
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,799
Speaker 2: I had someone on the show who was in Men's

2146
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 2: Health magazine a few years ago. I should do a

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Speaker 2: search now and have them back along because I know

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Speaker 2: I saved the info and they said half your age

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01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 2: plus seven years is as low as you should go. Okay, right,

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01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 2: so you figure thirty five thirty is thirty, yes, and

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01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 2: that seems really young.

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Speaker 1: Yes, But I will own this. I have.

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01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 2: I have gone out with women in their their younger

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Speaker 2: thirties and not that long ago, mid thirties, and and uh,

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01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 2: it's a blast. But they're wanting to go and run

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01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 2: around and party and do stuff. I've been there and

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01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 2: done that, and part of it is not my age.

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01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 2: But I mean, for how many years was I out

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01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 2: doing bar gig after bar gig and show after show

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01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 2: and introducing bands and hanging out and having drinks. I'm like,

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01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 2: that's exhausting. You go do that. I'll be at the house.

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01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 2: Come see me after. You know what I mean, what

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01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 2: are you doing at the house? You got the Bengals on,

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01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 2: you got you got sports. I'll make some drinks, we'll

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01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 2: hang out. I'll make some food, I'll cook dinner. It

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01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 2: works out, there's nothing wrong with the flicks, hill whatever.

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01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 2: Or maybe they just want to leave and that's fine,

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01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 2: visit me and then go on your way. That's where

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01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:52,599
Speaker 2: it is. I can be a more mature, like middle aged.

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Speaker 2: Uh boy, toy?

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01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 1: Is that? I mean, that's a possibility. I don't mean

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01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 1: like to play with What did you just saying about

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01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:04,879
Speaker 1: commitments earlier? There might be something to that. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm very good at being committed.

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Speaker 3: Are you happy being single right now? Are you happy

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01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 3: doing that?

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Speaker 1: Here's here's why it's great.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And if you find the right person, I think

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01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 2: you can still make it work this way. But I

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01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 2: don't have to answer to anybody. There is no woman

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01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 2: going where were you? What were you doing? Who were

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01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 2: you talking to? It's just hey, do you want to

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01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 2: get together later? You want to meet up tomorrow night

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01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 2: and grab some grub whatever else it happens to be

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01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 2: and have a drink.

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01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 1: That's perfect, okay. So I love the time me. I'm

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01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:37,600
Speaker 1: just waiting on that.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I love that you said that, because

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01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 3: that's what twenty twenty six relationships are going to be like.

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01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 3: They're instead of fear based, where were you? Why didn't

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01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 3: you called? All those things are like excuse me what?

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01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 3: I was busy doing my stuff? You big, get busy

2193
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 3: doing yours. They're going to be like, hey, I know

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01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 3: you're busy, call me when you get a second. That

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01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:02,439
Speaker 3: is is the self love that you give yourself, so

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01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 3: you're not dependent. You're not outsourcing the safety stuff. Yeah,

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01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:09,760
Speaker 3: and that's what we talked that's a callback. That's what

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01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:12,759
Speaker 3: we talked about earlier, and that's what's coming in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six because people are doing their work.

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Speaker 2: I mean in a big picture of things. I mean,

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01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to live my life down, you know

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01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm just trying to find my way

2203
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 2: in the world, like everybody else. And I think, like

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01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 2: everyone else, I would like to find a woman to

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01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:29,680
Speaker 2: complete me. It will happen at some point, or you know,

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01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 2: they're out there on the they're available on the internet

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01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 2: or something.

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01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 1: I've heard all my friends you're all on dating apps.

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01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 1: Well a lot of them are.

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01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 2: And I don't do that, but at a lot of

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01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 2: my friends, I mean, they found these female friends and

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01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:47,719
Speaker 2: male friends. They have found their perfect partners, and most

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01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 2: of them have been together for a ridiculous amount of

2214
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 2: time and make it work. What's interesting is when they

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01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 2: try to fix you up, you kind of go, oh,

2216
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 2: this she's great for you, she's perfect, she's like your

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01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 2: other half, and then you go, really, I don't know

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01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 2: me at all, And then the woman's are like the

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01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 2: same thing, Like, well, I mean we have drinking is

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01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 2: all right, but I mean I don't know what they're

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01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 2: both obviously high or whatever else. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 2: the sort of the way I go. Yeah, speaking of

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01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 2: a relationship stuff. Because you came into play and to

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01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 2: help us solve the world's problems. As ken Brew always

2225
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:17,599
Speaker 2: likes to say, that I caused more than I solved,

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01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,640
Speaker 2: But I want to believe I'm a problem solver, not

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01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 2: a creator of problems. You will be back for your

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Speaker 2: Relationship Radio after nine o'clock, another full three hours minight

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01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,799
Speaker 2: of making people healthy and living better.

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01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 1: Well, I try.

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01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 3: I do my best too, but we also keep it

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01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 3: lighthearted and fun. And doctor West will be with me.

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01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 3: That's nine to midnight, right after chick. There you go,

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01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 3: and he's straight away. He'll talk Reds, he'll talk Bengals,

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01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 3: he'll talk Bowl season. Who knows what else. He's prepared.

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01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 1: He's been roaming the halls with his laptop in his arm,

2237
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 1: his coffee in the other hand, and he's pacings D

2238
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 1: so you know that he is ready to roll.

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Speaker 2: After your six o'clock report, it's Sterling and Donna d

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Speaker 2: talking Hooday today here on seven hundred WLW