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Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts. Josh Call is out of the

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Speaker 1: race for governor, he announces on social media this morning.

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Speaker 1: Does that mean our old friend, man and deadbeat former

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Speaker 1: lieutenant governor and failed US Senate candidate, Mandela Barnes is in.

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Speaker 1: We will find out very shortly as we discuss all

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Speaker 1: that and more coming up on the Wisconsin political scene.

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Speaker 1: We will also talk with Waukeshaw County Judge Anthony Lecoco.

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Speaker 1: He is running for Court of Appeals, and just by

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Speaker 1: his presence in the race, a long time live including

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Speaker 1: a failed state Supreme Court candidate, announces she is heading

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Speaker 1: for the exits that's coming up plus the daily Trump date.

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Speaker 1: It is a very somber anniversary, this second anniversary of

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Speaker 1: the October seventh terror attacks in Israel. We will discuss

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Speaker 1: that and much more throughout the show today, but we

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Speaker 1: contest for this hour. Yesterday I reported exclusively in this

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Speaker 1: Democrat nominee for Senate Mandela Barnes was almost certainly going

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Speaker 1: to jump in the gubernatorial race, regardless of whether Attorney

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Speaker 1: itching to run and was only bolstered by the release

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Speaker 1: of a new Badger Battleground poll on Sunday. The very

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Speaker 1: first poll of this election cycle for twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: showing him with a commanding lead over the Democrat field,

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Speaker 1: doubling up his next closest contenders, that would be Lieutenant

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Speaker 1: third place tie with Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley. As

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Speaker 1: I was reporting that, I can tell you that Barnes

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Speaker 1: As I reported and have been reporting pretty much consistently

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Speaker 1: as in a thread on x He says, I'm running

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Speaker 1: for reelection as Wisconsin Attorney General. This is a pivotal

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Speaker 1: time for our nation. Some of our most basic rights

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Speaker 1: need to build on that progress. As my track record shows,

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Speaker 1: I'm committed to working to protect public safety and to

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Speaker 1: The real reason that he is running for reelection as

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Speaker 1: it was awful. Republicans thought they had a very good

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Speaker 1: searching and reflection after that race was that Barnes was

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Speaker 1: personal problems, hence why we call him mandeadbeat Because he

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Speaker 1: I'm strongly considering entering the race for governor. I've been

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Speaker 1: He saw that badger battleground poll. He may not have

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Speaker 1: thinking from Mandeadbeats camp was that if Call was in,

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Speaker 1: this year because all of that institutional, big Democrat money

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Speaker 1: that the incumbent regime, the Tony Evers team, would throw

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Speaker 1: going to split that Madison institutional dem vote. The Crazy

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Speaker 1: it would be far from certain whether or not he

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Speaker 1: at sixteen percent, Sarah Rodriguez, the current lieutenant governor, at

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Speaker 1: in order to get noticed. He's not going anywhere in

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Speaker 1: to man deadbeat Barnes versus David Crowley. Where the institutional

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Speaker 1: Madison dem support. Now you'll notice I'm saying institute utional

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Speaker 1: the national stage, how many straight times did Democrats quite

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Speaker 1: In fact, don't believe me. Twenty twenty four, Joe Biden wins,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a fair primary. We're gonna have an

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Speaker 1: going to be as transparent as possible. Oh wait, no,

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Speaker 1: never mind, We're just going to hand the thing to

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris once Democrats realize that Harris was the only

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, remember all of the candidates getting out

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Speaker 1: of the race right before Super Tuesday. As soon as

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Speaker 1: Biden showed any sign of life winning that South Carolina primary,

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Speaker 2: Probably not. I tend to try to avoid that, so no,

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Speaker 1: So let's see. I think people are sleeping on just

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Speaker 1: Tiffany had a knock on him that he was not

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Speaker 1: what that is, right, the Trump endorsement. He didn't get it.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't he get it? I'm told the Trump team

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Speaker 1: you're going to have to go back and win your

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Speaker 1: is going to be difficult and there's a razor thin

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Speaker 1: margin in the House. Now. The north Woods, the congressional

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Speaker 1: district Tiffany represents is I'm not going to say a

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Speaker 1: totally safe district for Republicans, but it's not one that

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Speaker 1: anyone should should be particularly concerned about. He, of course,

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Speaker 1: It's not one that would be as tight as Stephonics

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Speaker 1: would be without an incumbent Republican with all the money

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Speaker 1: that they've raised, all the name recognition, that they have,

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Speaker 1: that I'm told is the big reason that Trump has

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Speaker 1: Trump endorsement. Why wouldn't you, I mean, you go in

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Speaker 1: with the Trump endorsement and your opponents in a primary

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Speaker 1: basically have no choice. Remember back in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: and was concerned to be the heir apparent Rebecca Clayfish.

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Speaker 1: Tiffany raising one million dollars I think in the first

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Speaker 1: couple hours of his candidacy helps put to bed this narrative, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he can't raise money. He can't raise money, he's never

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Speaker 1: the financial support, especially from out of state, that Democrats do.

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Speaker 1: The other named candidate in the Republican field, Josh Showman,

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Speaker 1: the first half of the year with nearly three hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty thousand dollars in cash on hand. These numbers

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Speaker 1: reporting period is not going to be until January, so

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Speaker 1: in the next couple of days. Typically what happens is

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Speaker 1: a candidate will brat Hey Tom Tiffany raises a million

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Speaker 1: dollars in the first twenty four hours. This this is

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Speaker 1: something that they do to try to show how popular

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Speaker 1: bid last month. Her campaign stated it is quote fueled

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Speaker 1: by grassroots donations, with contributions from most counties across the state,

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Speaker 1: including eighty nine percent of online donations coming under one

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Speaker 1: the common man. I'm not getting just massive donations. I'm

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Speaker 1: not self funding. I'm not getting that sweet, sweet George

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Speaker 1: Sorows money. I'm so popular that just rank and file

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Speaker 1: Democrats so badly want me to be their governor that

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Speaker 1: cash on hand, even though he hasn't made very big

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Speaker 1: ad buys. I have yet to see or hear a

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Speaker 1: Josh Showman for governor ad Now that's not to say

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Speaker 1: that it's not part of the strategy that they're not

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Speaker 1: would seem to me that after Tiffany got in, after

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Speaker 1: this badger battleground poll, this would be the thing you'd

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Speaker 1: who follow this stuff very closely, that they simply don't

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Speaker 1: have the money to be able to get up and

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Speaker 1: get their message out to a broader audience. Just yet.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are going to step aside from the

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Speaker 1: politics and get to the ridiculous. The unhinged liberal of

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Speaker 1: the day is coming up next right here on the

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Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show, a somber anniversary, the second anniversary of

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Speaker 1: the October seventh terror attacks in Israel. What happened on

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Speaker 1: that horrible day and where we are two years later?

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Speaker 1: That is coming up in the next hour of the

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Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show. Will also bring you the daily Trump date.

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Speaker 1: The government may be shut down, but President Trump still

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Speaker 1: welcoming Canadian Prime Minister Mark Harper, No, not Harper to

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Speaker 1: the White House. What is the Canadian Prime minister's name.

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Speaker 1: I'm totally having a brain fart on that. I was.

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Speaker 1: I got used to Justin Trudeau, and then of course

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Speaker 1: he uh got Mark Carney. Thank you. I think it's

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Speaker 1: Stephen Harper. Mark Carney Justin Trudeau, Pierre Trudeau. Forgive me, folks.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long day today. And as much as

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Speaker 1: I do have encyclopedic knowledge of Canadian politics or not, uh,

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Speaker 1: just a many brain fart Canada's Prime minister welcomed to

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Speaker 1: the White House President Trump, also talking about the possibility

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Speaker 1: of layoffs see in the near future. We will get

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Speaker 1: to that coming up after the top of the hour. News.

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Speaker 1: Right now, though, it is time to name the unhinged

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Speaker 1: liberal of the dead. Nazi Germany is dangerous because he's

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Speaker 1: evil America. Oh, today's unhinged liberal of the day is

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Speaker 1: none other than Illinois Governor JB. Fritzkirt. Just a week

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Speaker 1: after he freaked out at President Trump referring to Democrats

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Speaker 1: as being the real fascists and saying this type of

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Speaker 1: language has no place in American politics, he came out

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Speaker 1: today and said, yeah, what Trump is doing is totally

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Speaker 1: how the Nazis got started.

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Speaker 5: In the early days of the Nazi regime, they started

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Speaker 5: slowly but surely taking away people's rights, and what we're

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Speaker 5: seeing now is the very same thing. They've gone into

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Speaker 5: cities now with the military. Think about that. In your lifetime,

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Speaker 5: have you ever seen anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, actually I have, And in fact, it is well

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Speaker 1: within the law for the National Guard to provide security

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Speaker 1: for law enforcement if local police refused to, as in

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Speaker 1: the stand down order that Chicago's police chief allegedly gave

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Speaker 1: to his officers who were trying to protect ICE agents

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Speaker 1: who came under attack in Pritzker's largest city. Jamie Pritzker,

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Speaker 1: you're unhinged liberal of the day. We are likely to

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Speaker 1: providing material support to those ICE agents. It is true

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Speaker 1: that the Possecommatatis Act of the eighteen seventies eighteen eighties

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Speaker 1: support of the federal government and armed soldiers, and it

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Speaker 1: is absolutely not a violation of either the Constitution's pro

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Speaker 1: the Possecommatatis Act for those federal troops to provide support

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Speaker 1: local forces if they come under assault. And the states

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Speaker 1: to protect them. Dan o'donald show coming right back after

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Speaker 1: the news conservative thought, not just talk. It is the

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Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show. Welcome back to it. I do sincerely

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Speaker 1: hope folks you have as much fun listening to this

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Speaker 1: show as I have doing it. I was actually out

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Speaker 1: to lunch with some very good friends today and I

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Speaker 1: oh eight first pitch. I had a couple of wonderful listeners.

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Speaker 1: As I said, I was contemplating going to the game

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Speaker 1: last night, but it was a little late. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to Dave and Wendy, who immediately texted me and said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I said, it's a little late for me. Now. These

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Speaker 1: They said, Dan, we know you stay out late. When

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Speaker 1: next morning. And that's way. He says, he really hates

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Speaker 1: Sunday evenings. And it's because you've heard of this might

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Speaker 1: be a total millennial thing. Have you heard of the

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Speaker 1: Sunday scaries? Have you heard of that concept where you

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Speaker 1: just feel unnerved. I used to get that. Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: I used to get that at school constantly. I can

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Speaker 1: typically come back to Milwaukee. I was going to school

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Speaker 1: in Madison and my then girlfriend. Wonder what she's up

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Speaker 1: to right now? I think she's actually picking up our

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Speaker 1: now wife, then girlfriend. Yeah, believe it or not. Producer

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Speaker 1: Eric November eighteenth, We will Mark. I can't even believe

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Speaker 1: you know, chasing down sources. And in fact, I am, oh,

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Speaker 1: genuinely thoroughly enjoy what it is that I do for

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Speaker 1: And you know, God, we were sort of talking about

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk's assassination and that sort of stuff, and it

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Speaker 1: just got me thinking about how important spreading the message

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Speaker 1: of conservatism is not just, you know, for me doing

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Speaker 1: a silly radio show, but for all you folks listening

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Speaker 1: If you not the God sounded, that sounds really ego

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Speaker 1: to Yes, the Gospel of dan first commandments, thou shalt

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Speaker 1: the gospel of conservatism. You're you're now a fault producer.

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Speaker 3: It's also a big win for the United States.

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Speaker 1: We have to keep winning. We have to win, Moore.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna win more, even though the government's shut down

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Speaker 1: for a sixth day. President Trump welcomed Canadian Prime Minister

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Speaker 1: Mark Carney to the White House today to have.

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Speaker 4: The Prime Minister of Canada, Mark Carney, who I have

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Speaker 4: I'm very honored to do it because I like them

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Speaker 1: That's actually a little bit of an inside joke. Carney

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Speaker 1: Canada trade Agreement, as well as the second anniversary of

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Speaker 4: We're in very serious negotiations to I guess you could say,

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Speaker 4: depending on the way you count, three thousand years, you

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Speaker 4: there's a possibility that we could have peace in the

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Speaker 4: Middle East. It's something even beyond the Gaza situation. We

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Speaker 4: want to release of the hostages immediately, etc. And so

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Speaker 4: our team is over there now, another team just left,

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Speaker 4: and other countries, literally every country in the world has

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Speaker 4: supported the plan. Yep. I don't think there's anybody that hasn't.

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Speaker 1: Actually, not that I've seen now. Of course, the key

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Speaker 1: release the hostages. It's believed that there are about twenty

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Speaker 1: who are still alive and still being held. Think about

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Speaker 1: that two years after that horrific attack. And of course

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Speaker 1: Hamas needs to seed control of Gaza and go along

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Speaker 1: with a whole lot of other restrictions, including essentially putting

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Speaker 1: President Trump in control of a board that will oversee

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Speaker 1: the governance of the Gaza strip. So stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 1: As President Trump is attempting to broker what might be

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Speaker 1: of his second term. But we are in the middle

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Speaker 1: of a government shut down, and of course President Trump

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Speaker 1: was asked about that whether or not layoffs would happen,

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Speaker 1: and if they do, when they might start. I know

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Speaker 1: I could tell you.

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Speaker 4: I'll be able to tell you that in four or

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Speaker 4: five days if this keeps going on. If this, if

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Speaker 4: this keeps going on, it'll be substantial and a lot

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Speaker 4: of those jobs will never come back. But you're gonna have,

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Speaker 4: You're gonna have, You're gonna have a lot closer to

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Speaker 1: Actually, President Trump made a number of hints in that

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Speaker 1: Oval office Teta tet with reporters while the Canadian Prime

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Speaker 1: to trim the waste, fraud and abuse. He put it

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Speaker 1: in the federal government, in other words, using the shutdown

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Speaker 1: to continue the work started by Elon Musk and dope.

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Speaker 4: We have a lot I'm not gonna tell you, but

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Speaker 4: we'll be announcing it pretty soon. But we have a

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Speaker 4: lot of things that we're gonna eliminate and permanently eliminate.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that we have is.

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Speaker 4: Some advantage, you could say, but because of the shutdown,

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Speaker 4: which I think they made a big mistake, we're able

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Speaker 4: to take out billions and billions of dollars of waste,

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Speaker 4: fraud and abuse. And they've handed it to or a

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Speaker 4: silver platter. And you know, Russell Vote, he's a serious person,

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Speaker 4: very serious person, and he's sitting there and he's getting

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Speaker 4: ready to cut things. And this is something that was

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Speaker 4: handed to us by I assume Schumer. I don't. I

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Speaker 4: just don't know if humor has any power anymore. I

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Speaker 4: look at your leadership, I don't know who to speak to.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, I'm getting calls from Democrats wanting

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Speaker 1: Say this about the manny, he does have a way

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Speaker 1: with words that ladies and gentlemen, is your daily Trump date.

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Speaker 1: As we outlined yesterday on the show, this is a

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Speaker 1: tremendous opportunity not just to trim some of those unnecessary,

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Speaker 1: redundant positions, those positions that don't all with the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration's overall goals. It's also an opportunity to finally rid

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Speaker 1: this country of the true albatross around the neck of

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Speaker 1: the healthcare industry known as Obamacare. What Democrats have evolved

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Speaker 1: their position into and why they are so desperate to

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Speaker 1: keep this government shut down, is that there are subsidies

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Speaker 1: that are going to expire. This was a COVID era

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Speaker 1: plan by President Biden and congressional Democrats back when they

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Speaker 1: controlled everything in early twenty twenty one, to provide massive

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Speaker 1: taxpayer funded subsidies to those who are on the Obamacare exchanges.

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Speaker 1: The big problem, as even the Washington Post today acknowledged,

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Speaker 1: is that the Affordable Care Act is not at all

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Speaker 1: affordable health insurance premiums, deductibles, the cost of care, out

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Speaker 1: of pocket costs, everything has skyrocketed because, as we established

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Speaker 1: yesterday in a relatively lengthy segment, at about this time,

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Speaker 1: people that would help to subsidize the care for elderly

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Speaker 1: and the infirm people who, in other words, would use

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Speaker 1: health insurance more often. If you're twenty five years old

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Speaker 1: and you are shopping for a health insurance plan, are

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Speaker 1: you going to want to pay a massive premium every

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Speaker 1: single month? Are you going to want several thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: taken out of your paycheck. No, you're probably earning less.

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Speaker 1: You are probably not able to afford the Cadillac insurance plan.

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Speaker 1: So you're going to take the most threadbare coverage that's offered,

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Speaker 1: and you're going to pay a higher deductible. You're going

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Speaker 1: to pay out of pockets so that you don't have

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Speaker 1: to pay nearly as much every single month. You're going to,

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Speaker 1: in other words, only really go see a doctor once

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Speaker 1: in pretty good health and you're twenty five years old,

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Speaker 1: Let's face it, there's no real need for you to

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Speaker 1: need to. I was in perfect health. Well, Obamacare came

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Speaker 1: along and forced all of those plans out of existence,

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Speaker 1: force those people onto the Obamacare exchanges, where they were

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Speaker 1: forced to pay way more money to get things covered

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Speaker 1: were just not something that insurance companies could sell anymore,

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Speaker 1: and people were forced into the exchanges where they would

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Speaker 1: have to get higher cost plans, thereby increasing the cost

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Speaker 1: of everything. As I explained yesterday, the less cost when

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Speaker 1: government is footing the bill, as Obamacare has, there is

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Speaker 1: no incentive for medical companies to compete on price. Because

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Speaker 1: somebody is going to pay it might not be you,

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Speaker 1: And in fact it's almost certainly not going to be you,

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Speaker 1: oh guess what if your insurance company is subsidized by

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Speaker 1: the federal government. Ultimately, the payer is everybody. It's taxpayers

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Speaker 1: of the United States of America. When that happens, you

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Speaker 1: can just significantly bump the cost of say MRIs, of

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Speaker 1: going to pay it. Well, when that happens, of course,

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Speaker 1: that they were the ones who caused it to fall

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Speaker 1: by passing Obamacare. They're saying, Okay, President Trump, if he

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Speaker 1: have these subsidies for everybody, And oh, by the way, yes,

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Speaker 1: we are going to repeal the portion of the one

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Speaker 1: Big beautiful bill that criminalized providing healthcare to illegals through Medicaid,

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Speaker 1: something that absolutely has been happening, not just through emergency medicaid,

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Speaker 1: make those temporary subsidies, which remember we're supposed to be

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Speaker 1: in effect for five years from twenty twenty one through

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Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty five. They want to make

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Speaker 1: those permanent. They essentially want you to pay so that

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Speaker 1: people don't realize just how terrible Obamacare was. We reflect

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Speaker 1: on the second anniversary of the October seventh terror attacks.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next it is the Dan O'Donnell Show on

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Speaker 1: the second anniversary of the truly horrific October seventh terror attacks.

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Speaker 1: Code named Operation al Oxa flood by Hamas, these were

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Speaker 1: coordinated incursions by about three thousand terrorists from Gaza into

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Speaker 1: the southern part of Israel. There were assaults by land,

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Speaker 1: by sea, even by air. They targeted twenty one civilian communities,

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Speaker 1: military bases, as well as the Nova Music Festival, beginning

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Speaker 1: as many as five thousand rockets. Then there were ground infiltrations.

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Speaker 1: By the time it was all over, about twelve one

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00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: hundred innocent civilians, as well as IDF soldiers police officers,

859
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: were killed. Seven hundred thirty six Israeli civilians were killed,

860
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: including thirty eight children, seventy nine foreign nationals from the

861
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: United States as far away as Nepal and Thailand. Police

862
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: officers IDF soldiers three hundred and seventy nine of them

863
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: were killed. There were also fourteen additional civilian deaths from

864
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: IDF's friendly fire. There were five thousand, four hundred thirty

865
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 1: one people injured, primarily from gunfire, rocket shrapnel grenades. Many

866
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: of them were at the Nova Music Festival. Two hundred

867
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: and fifty one people were taken hostage. Two hundred twenty

868
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: three civil millions, twenty seven soldiers military personnel were initially

869
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: taken back to Gaza, about two hundred of them by Hamas,

870
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: the other fifty one by the Islamic Jihad. In the

871
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: Palestinian territories, forty women and children were released relatively quickly

872
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: for humanitarian reasons, but the others were held for days, weeks, months.

873
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: As of October one, the latest count, it is estimated

874
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: that there are still two years later, forty eight hostages

875
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: remaining in Gaza. Of those, roughly twenty are believed to

876
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: still be alive. There was a deal in November of

877
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, as well as a number of other

878
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: subsequent deals, that resulted in the release of one hundred

879
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: and fifty of those hostage. Eight of them were rescued

880
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: by operations from the IDF. Seventy five were killed either

881
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: during the abduction or at some point in captivity. There

882
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: have been fifty eight bodies that have been repatriated, and

883
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: there are still upwards of about seventeen to eighteen bodies

884
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: that are either still being held by Hamas or that

885
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: are destroyed unaccounted for. It was easily the worst terror

886
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: attack in the history of Israel. It was the single

887
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: worst slaughter of Jewish people since the Holocaust. It was

888
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: an unequaled tragedy in the modern era. It was devastating,

889
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: It was infuriating, but for far too many people across

890
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: the United States and the world, it was a cause

891
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: for celebration in Times Square the day after October seventh.

892
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: I will never forget this, probably as long as I live.

893
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: On October eighth, there was a rally organized by pro

894
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: Palestinian groups. Now it was supposedly a rally in support

895
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: of the Palestinian people against the Israeli response to the

896
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: terror attack, but Israel was in mourning. It hadn't even

897
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: contemplated a formal response just yet. And oh, by the way,

898
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: that rally included such chance as from the river to

899
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: the sea Palestine will be free, which calls for the

900
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: destruction of Israel. The land from the river to the

901
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: sea is where Israel currently Sits resistance is justified casting

902
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: the terror attack as a form of resistance to an occupation,

903
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: and globalize the into Fada, the into Fada being the

904
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: uprising against Israel. Globalize it means attack more Jewish people.

905
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: Protesters waived Palestinian flags, they chanted. They demanded an end

906
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: to Israeli occupation in Gaza, which is remarkable since Israel

907
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: has not been in control of Gaza since two thousand

908
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: and five, turning it over to the Palestinian people, who

909
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: very quickly elected Hamas to run the thing. Even New

910
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: York Governor Kathy Hokeel called the demonstration repugnant given the

911
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: fact that hamas said, engaged in coordinated terror just twenty

912
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: four hours before. In subsequent days across the country, including

913
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: here in Wisconsin, there were similar celebrations and it would

914
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: be impossible to term them anything else. Like At UW Madison,

915
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: just a couple of days after the October seventh terror attack,

916
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: there was this chance to the burners, do you know

917
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: what you say?

918
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 3: Always say, we will liberate the land.

919
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 4: There you go, we will liberate the land by any

920
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 4: means necessary.

921
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: We will liberate the lamb. This was about four days

922
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: after twelve hundred innocent Jewish people were killed in a

923
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: coordinated terror attack, and that was a rally on the

924
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: campus of UW Madison here in Wisconsin, led by people

925
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: who suppose it lee stand up to fascism and evil

926
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: and hate here in America, but were in full support

927
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: of it. We will liberate the land by any means necessary.

928
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: That means exactly what you think it means. And remember

929
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: Israel had not yet launched its counter offensive. They were

930
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: merely anticipating that it would, and they were standing in

931
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: solidarity with the Palestinian people who had not been attacked,

932
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: saying they're going to liberate the land, liberate the Palestinian territories,

933
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: the entire land of Palestine, which not so coincidentally also

934
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: contains the current state of Israel, by any means necessary.

935
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: That is a justification of terror. There was also a

936
01:03:50,840 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: rally the following day in Milwaukee in case you couldn't

937
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: hear that from the river to the sea, Palestine will

938
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: be free. That is an open and I mean open

939
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: call for the destruction of Israel. All within the first

940
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: couple of days of the worst terror attack in the

941
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: history of Israel. All across America, from San Francisco to

942
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: New York and including here in Wisconsin, people almost all

943
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: of them on the political left, casting their lot not

944
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: with justice and liberation, but with the cold blooded mass

945
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: murder of Jewish people. As if the October seventh terror

946
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: attack couldn't be sickening enough, the fact that that sort

947
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: of glorification and celebration of it was happening right here

948
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: in our our own backyard made it about the most

949
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: nauseating thing in recent memory. And then, to add insult

950
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: to injury, over the next couple of years, as Israel

951
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: worked to eradicate the terror organization who has the destruction

952
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: of Israel as part of its founding charter. Those same

953
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: people were accusing Israel of committing war crimes and launching

954
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: a genocide. We will get into that and debunk a

955
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: two year long blood libel. When the Dan O'Donnell show

956
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: returns in just minutes.

957
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 4: To the murders, do you.

958
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 3: Know what you say?

959
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 4: Always say, we will liberate the Lamb. There you go,

960
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 4: we will liberate the Lamb by any means necessary.

961
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: We will liberate the Lamb. That was just days after

962
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: twelve hundred Jewish people were killed in the single worst

963
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: terror attack in the world since nine to eleven, single

964
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: worst slaughter of Jewish people since the Holocaust, and at

965
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: America's top public university, the University of Wisconsin Madison. Seriously,

966
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: that's what they are calling themselves. That was the chant

967
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: days later. I don't think I have ever been more nauseated.

968
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:43,919
Speaker 1: And then when Israel dared to try to round up

969
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: and stop those who used Gaza as a base for

970
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: terror for decades, firing untold thousands of rockets into Israel

971
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: since Samas first took control of Gaza in two thousand seven,

972
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: those same people tried to suggest that what Israel was

973
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: doing was not legitimate self defense but rather genocide. Genocide

974
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: Genocide is actually not just a term, It has a

975
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: legal definition. According to the nineteen forty eight UN Convention

976
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,479
Speaker 1: on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

977
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: following the actual genocide of the Jewish people by Nazi Germany,

978
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: there are several specific requirements. In order for something to

979
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: be classified as a genocide. There has to be one

980
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: specific intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial,

981
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: or religious group through killing members of the group, causing

982
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: serious bodily or mental harm, deliberately inflicting conditions to bring

983
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: about physical destruction, preventing births, or forcibly transferring children. Has

984
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: there ever been an intent, stated, inferred or otherwise in

985
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: the two years since October seventh by the IDF or

986
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: the State of Israel to destroy the Palestinian people as

987
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: a group. No, Their stated goal, and everything the Israeli

988
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: military has done has been to dismantle hamasa's military infrastructure

989
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: and to prevent further attacks like the one two years ago. Today,

990
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: the operations targeted Hamas operatives launched sites for their rockets,

991
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: their tunnel networks, not the Palestinian people as a whole.

992
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: Do you know what one of the big challenges to

993
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: targeting those military objectives, those military targets has been Hamas

994
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: places them in the middle of civilian areas. In other words,

995
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: Hamas is intentionally trying to up the civilian death toll

996
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: in order to bring more useful idiots like the ones

997
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: chanting at UW. Madison days after the attack to its cause.

998
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: Hamas has been doing this for as long as Hamas says,

999
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: and the Islamic Jihad, the Palestinian authority before them, the

1000
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: PLA Yasser Arafat. This was a standard tactic of terror,

1001
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: not just amongst the Palestinian people and their various groups,

1002
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: but across the Middle East. They put rocket launching technology

1003
01:09:54,320 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: in schools, in hospital they put their tunnels underneath hospitals.

1004
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,560
Speaker 1: The point is that it's impossible to target the military

1005
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: installation without killing civilians. Israel has used precision strikes and

1006
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: has given warning after warning after warning to civilian populations

1007
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 1: to get out before their attacks start. Not only that

1008
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: the October seventh terror attack was classified as a war crime.

1009
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: Human rights watched the United nations. They all declare this

1010
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,839
Speaker 1: to be a war crime. Israel was able to invoke

1011
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: Article fifty one of the UN Charter, the right to

1012
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: self defense in order to defend itself from an ongoing threat,

1013
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: not to target the Palestinians as a racial or ethnic

1014
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: or religious group, to target the people who have put

1015
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: in their very founding document, the Hamas Charter of the

1016
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: late nineteen eighty stated multiple times that its ultimate goal

1017
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: was the destruction of Israel and the death of the

1018
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: Zionists aa the Jewish people. There has been a high

1019
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: civilian death toll, It's true, but not because Israel is

1020
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: intentionally trying to wipe out the Palestinian people, but because

1021
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: so many Hamas fighters and leaders conceal themselves and their

1022
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: weaponry amongst those civilians. Not only that, Israel has taken

1023
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 1: multiple steps to mitigate harm to civilians. They have allowed

1024
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 1: one point two million tons of food in humanitarian aid

1025
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: through Egypt as of earlier this year. Do you know

1026
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: what happens to those million tons of food that come

1027
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: They get seized by Hamas and held hostage. How do

1028
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: you think Hamas raises money? Do you think they're getting

1029
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: a second job at Walmart? When they're not blowing themselves up,

1030
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:16,480
Speaker 1: they're ransoming the food to their own people. The humanitarian

1031
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: aid comes in through Egypt from Israel and the broader

1032
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: United States led Western world, but it gets intercepted by

1033
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: Hamas and then sold at a tremendous markup to starving

1034
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: people in the Palestinian territories, especially Gaza. Not only that

1035
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: Israel established temporary evacuation zones, they established safe corridors for

1036
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: civilians to move south during operations, which they would telegraph days,

1037
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: sometimes even weeks in advance. And how about this, there

1038
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 1: have been multiple cease fire negotiations between Israel and the

1039
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,560
Speaker 1: very people who slaughtered more than a thousand of Israel's

1040
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: innocent civilians. Does that sound like did Hitler ever engage

1041
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: in a ceasefire talk with the Jews of Europe or

1042
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: did he just try to wipe them out? Not only that,

1043
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: the International Court of Justice did rule after South Africa

1044
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: raised a case alleging genocide against Israel. The ICJ International

1045
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 1: Court of Justice ordered Israel to prevent genocidal acts, but

1046
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: it did not determine that a genocide was actually occurring.

1047
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: In other words, the International Court of Justice, which is

1048
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: very left leaning and very sympathetic to the Palestinian clause

1049
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: and actually took up this asenine case brought by the

1050
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:12,799
Speaker 1: lefties down in South Africa. They actually determined, okay, Israel,

1051
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: you've got to prevent genocidal acts. Don't you think if

1052
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 1: there was actually evidence that there was a genocide occurring,

1053
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: maybe someone formally investigating it would have found something. How

1054
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:31,440
Speaker 1: about this? An even farther radical left court, the International

1055
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 1: Criminal Court, you might remember, last year, actually issued arrest

1056
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: warrants for Benjamin netnya who the Israeli Prime Minister is,

1057
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 1: as well as the head of the IDF and several

1058
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: other top Israeli officials. You might think, damn, this proves it,

1059
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: This proves it right. Genocide Nope, war crimes specifically, They

1060
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,879
Speaker 1: did not charge genocide. They also, by the way, issued

1061
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: arrest warrants. This did not get nearly the press that

1062
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: the arrest warrant for Bibi net Yahoo got. They did

1063
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 1: issue arrest warrants for Hamas leaders. In addition, the United

1064
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,600
Speaker 1: Nations has not said that there is anything even remotely

1065
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: close to a genocide occurring in Gossam. For two years,

1066
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: Israel has fought as hard and as much as it

1067
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: could to prevent civilian casualties while trying to defend itself

1068
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: from an ongoing threat. That threat made itself very real

1069
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: two years ago. Today, I couldn't imagine being in a

1070
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 1: country where that threat is ever present, and where I

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Speaker 1: would have to raise my young children with the constant

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Speaker 1: an all out assault like on October seventh, and then

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Speaker 1: to have my government try to make the world safe

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Speaker 1: for my children and me and be charged with genocide

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Speaker 1: when there's no evidence whatsoever to suggest anything even remotely

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Speaker 1: close is happening. But this sort of thing is happening. Fortunately,

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Speaker 1: the world is blessed with a hard nosed leader like

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump who is willing to sit down with Hamas

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Speaker 1: and even talk tough to our longtime ally Israel and say, look,

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Speaker 1: at some point, this war needs to end Ukraine. The

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Speaker 1: war needs to end Russia Israel. The war needs to end.

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Speaker 1: Hamas can no longer be allowed to hold any position

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Speaker 1: actually bring about. That piece you're listening to The Dan

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Speaker 1: O'Donnell Show. We'll be back in just a bit. Big

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Speaker 1: day in Wisconsin politics, says Josh Cale. Wisconsin's attorney general

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Speaker 1: declines to run for governor. It was widely expected that

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Speaker 1: he was going to do so. That opens the door

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Speaker 1: for my man man. Deadbeat former lieutenant governor and US

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Speaker 1: Senate candidate Mandela Barnes, is now said to be just

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Speaker 1: on our flagship station News Talk eleven thirty WISN and

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Speaker 1: one on our great affiliate in Madison, News Talk thirteen

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Speaker 1: to ten WIBA. Well, it was something of a surprise

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Speaker 1: that long term liberal Appellate Court judge Lisa Neubauer announced

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Speaker 1: that she is not going to seek reelection, which is

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Speaker 1: a surprise because Neubauer was so well regarded in the

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Speaker 1: liberal judicial community that she was actually the candidate they

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Speaker 1: handpicked in twenty nineteen to run for state Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: Now she is retiring. The candidate a staunch conservative who

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Speaker 1: is running for her seat and now for the time

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Speaker 1: being anyway, running unopposed for second District Court of Appeals

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Speaker 1: is Anthony Lecoco, who joins us. Now, Anthony, way to go.

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Speaker 1: I guess are you really that scary a guy that

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Speaker 1: you forced Neubauer right out of this race?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on, Dan. You know, I wish

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Speaker 3: somebody would tell that to my four kids. They might

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Speaker 3: eat their vegetables. But you know, I think the news

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Speaker 3: of Judge Neubauer deciding not to run is really a

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Speaker 3: reflection of the fact that voters in this district are upset.

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Speaker 3: They're upset with the direction of the judiciary in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: They're upset they're seeing judges who are obstructing ice agents.

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Speaker 3: They're seeing, you know, the most liberal Wisconsin Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: in state history, and they're sick of officials, not just

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Speaker 3: in the political branches, but even in our judiciary who

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Speaker 3: won't say what a woman is, who you know, won't

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Speaker 3: acknowledge God or Jesus Christ, who you know, all kinds

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Speaker 3: of things are not doing their jobs to uphold the law.

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Speaker 3: And so we were able to build so much incredible

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Speaker 3: momentum from conservatives across the district that I think Judge

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Speaker 3: Nubauer saw the writing on the wall and decided should

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Speaker 3: go into early retirement. So this is a huge victory,

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Speaker 3: not for me, but for all the voters of this

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Speaker 3: state in the district who want to see a change

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Speaker 3: on the court.

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Speaker 1: Now today you also announced the endorsement of pretty much

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Speaker 1: every other judge on this court conservatives. This is a

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Speaker 1: District two Court of Appeals, Shelley Grogan, Mark Gundrum, and

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Speaker 1: Maria Lazar, who is currently running for United States Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: You have the chance to make this the most conservative

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Speaker 1: court appeal of appeals in the state, if it isn't

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Speaker 1: already now that Lisa Nubauer is going to be gone, that's.

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Speaker 3: Right, you know, So for your listenership may not be aware,

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Speaker 3: and I'll acknowledge, you know, the Court of Appeals is

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Speaker 3: probably the least understood of our free level judiciary.

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Speaker 1: Actually it is. I think you're right, yeah, yep.

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Speaker 3: You know. Its job is to make sure the trial

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Speaker 3: court judges are doing their jobs, and if you get

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Speaker 3: a bad decision in the trial court, you can take

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Speaker 3: it up to our Court of Appeals. And to some

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Speaker 3: of your listeners, that might sound like the Wisconsin Supreme Court,

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Speaker 3: but here's the key difference. Wisconsin Supreme Court hears very

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Speaker 3: few cases every year. It's fourteen a couple of terms ago.

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Speaker 3: Our Court of Appeals here's everything else, thousands and thousands

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Speaker 3: of cases affecting our families and businesses. So absolutely critical

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Speaker 3: that we put proven defenders of our constitutional rights and

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Speaker 3: our families in these seats. And as you were saying, Dan,

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Speaker 3: it's sixteen judges divided into four districts, and I'm running

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Speaker 3: for District two, which is the twelve county area that

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Speaker 3: sort of encircles Milwaukee, doesn't include it. It's the Wilde

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Speaker 3: counties Kenosha, Racine up to Mantwauk, Sheboygan, and it is

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Speaker 3: really the most conservative Court of Appeals district in the state.

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Speaker 3: But we have to keep it that way, and for

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Speaker 3: some reason, Judge Lisa Nubauer, a liberal judge, has managed

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Speaker 3: to evade removal from her seats. And we've been able

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Speaker 3: to do that now, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And congratulations to you on doing so. She was always

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Speaker 1: something of an outlier. The courts of appeals are known

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Speaker 1: as error correcting courts in Wisconsin jurisprudence. But because there

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Speaker 1: are so many cases that go before them, you can

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Speaker 1: make the argument, obviously, the state Supreme Court is the

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Speaker 1: court of last resort, is the most important court in

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Speaker 1: the state, but you can make a very compelling case, Anthony,

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Speaker 1: that the Court of Appeals election. I know you're going

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Speaker 1: to say this because you're running for Court of Appeals

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Speaker 1: is every bit as important, because, as you said, the

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Speaker 1: relatively few number of cases that ever actually get up

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Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court means that for all intents and purposes,

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Speaker 1: the court of last resort is very often the court

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Speaker 1: of Appeals in.

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Speaker 3: This state exactly. And you know that Court of Appeals,

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Speaker 3: it is just pumping out decisions every day on every

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Speaker 3: subject that you can think of. And unfortunately and perhaps understandably,

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Speaker 3: you know, many of the residents of the state do

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Speaker 3: not follow that court. But as you say it's become

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Speaker 3: more important than ever. Our Supreme Court used to decide

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Speaker 3: hundreds of cases a term. It is down to historically

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Speaker 3: low levels. And you know, I'm not minimizing the importance

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Speaker 3: of the Supreme Court by anyon means the cases that

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Speaker 3: they do take have huge ramifications for our state. But

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Speaker 3: if you have business in a Wisconsin court, odds are

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Speaker 3: it's going to be the Court of Appeals that is

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Speaker 3: the last word in your case. You take it up

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Speaker 3: on appeal. So again, it just couldn't be more important

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Speaker 3: that we get judges in those sixteen Court of Appeal

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Speaker 3: seats that are going to do their job to uphold

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Speaker 3: the law, defend our families, defend our constitutional rights, and

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Speaker 3: speak the truth courageously. Not every day we get a

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Speaker 3: chance to flip a seat from liberal to conservative. This

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Speaker 3: was one of those chances, and things are going very well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they certainly are. I think you obviously have got

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Speaker 1: to be considered a prohibitive favorite just because Neubauer was

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Speaker 1: able to I think skate by on just being the incumbent,

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Speaker 1: and there weren't particularly well funded candidates whoever were challenging her.

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Speaker 1: And it's sort of a thing in the judicial community. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: the legal community in this state, and I suspect across

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Speaker 1: the country that if it's not a race for a

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court, a lot of these judges, oftentimes at the

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Speaker 1: circuit court level, run unopposed. You will probably have no

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Speaker 1: such luxury. You are anticipating that the left will throw

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Speaker 1: up some opponent for you, right.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they're holding auditions as we speak. You can

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Speaker 3: speak more than I can dan to who would be

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Speaker 3: sitting in the judges chair listening to their tryouts. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: they'll throw somebody out there. But look, this is a

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Speaker 3: conservative district. We have conservative judges because it's a conservative district,

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Speaker 3: and the people that conservatives in this district respect, like

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Speaker 3: former Governor Scott Walker, Justice Rebecca Bradley, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: the three judges on District two like Grogan, Maria Lazar,

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Speaker 3: and Gundrum, and then great amazing law enforcement groups like

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Speaker 3: Milwaukee Police Association, Waukesha County Chiefs Association. They've all endorsed

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Speaker 3: my candidate for the Court of Appeals. So whoever they

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Speaker 3: may throw up there is not going to get a

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Speaker 3: lot of support in the district. They're going to have

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Speaker 3: to look elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: Now, just to get this out of the way. By

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Speaker 1: the way, we're talking with Anthony Lecoco. He is the

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Speaker 1: Conservative candidate for District to Court of Appeals, announcing a

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Speaker 1: couple of endorsements today and also yesterday. Was it yesterday

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Speaker 1: or over the weekend? Lisa Nubauer announced that she is

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Speaker 1: not going to seek another term. She of course ran

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Speaker 1: for Supreme Court in twenty nineteen, and she's the mother

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Speaker 1: of the Democrats leader in the State Assembly, Greta Nubauer.

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Speaker 1: She's very, very connected in Democrat party politics. She has

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Speaker 1: been just for decades a liberal jurist, and now she's

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Speaker 1: not running for reelection. Just to get this out of

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Speaker 1: the way, Anthony, because if and when you do get

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Speaker 1: an opponent, I can already see the primary source of

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Speaker 1: attack is this guy's not a judge. He has a

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Speaker 1: belt judge. What qualifies you to be an appellate court judge?

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Speaker 3: Thank you for asking. You know, I started my career

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Speaker 3: at the Wisconsin Supreme Court clerking for two years for

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Speaker 3: Chief Justice and at Ziegler. But then I moved very

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Speaker 3: quickly to the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty, which

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Speaker 3: many of your listeners might know. And I fought for

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Speaker 3: years for free speech, religious liberty, election integrity, parents' rights,

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Speaker 3: against the COVID shutdowns, against DEI, in defense of our businesses.

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Speaker 3: You know, so many of these stories that you've reported

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Speaker 3: on on your show, from crazy gender policies in Madison

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Speaker 3: to the Racine voter van. I fought those suits on

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Speaker 3: the front line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I think voters are going to realize that I

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Speaker 3: am someone who understands the importance of our constitutional rights,

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Speaker 3: understands the importance of our families. They're going to look

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Speaker 3: at some of these judges who you know, haven't been

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Speaker 3: doing all that great of a job. And you know

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Speaker 3: we've seen in District two voters are very willing to

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Speaker 3: put non judges on the bench. And I'm very confident

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Speaker 3: that they're going to see through any lines of attack

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Speaker 3: along those lines.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's fair, and you were the attorney in that

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Speaker 1: Racine case for Will. In fact, I believe that's how

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Speaker 1: I first got to know you. I do. I do

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Speaker 1: have to say I'm withholding my support now because you

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Speaker 1: did not refer to it by its proper name, and

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Speaker 1: that is the Scooby Doo mystery voting machine down in

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Speaker 1: Racine that Mayor Corey Mason would roll around. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: do have extensive experience, sir. Every time I think about

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Speaker 1: that stupid thing, it's like, how did they possibly think

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Speaker 1: that that was lawful? For those unfamiliar the mayor of

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Speaker 1: receipts and then he would have it followed. He would

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Speaker 1: have the van where you could vote, follow him around

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Speaker 1: to his various campaign stops, like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, maybe takes the case for most absurd that out.

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Speaker 1: Of twenty twenty and all the insane things. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Madison with fraud in the Park was pretty bad where

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Speaker 1: they just had a bunch of dudes with Duffel bags

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Speaker 1: show up to take your ballots. The fact that the

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Speaker 1: mayor while he was running for reelection would have a

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Speaker 1: van follow him around where if you like what you

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Speaker 1: heard at the local George Webbs from Mayor Corey Mason,

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Speaker 1: you could just hop his van. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he was given away candy or he would like promise

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Speaker 1: voters toys, but you had to get in the back

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Speaker 1: of his Scooby Doo mystery voting machine and you could

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Speaker 1: cast your ballot right there. For the most unlawful thing

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen in all seriousness, though, so what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: and the message I think you're taking to voters is Look,

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Speaker 1: I have fought for constitutional governance my entire career with IRG,

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Speaker 1: with WILL. I've dedicated my career to this, and I've

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Speaker 1: litigated in front of appellate courts my whole career. And

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Speaker 1: now I'm just moving to the other side of the bench.

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Speaker 3: That's right, you know, right now I'm no longer at

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01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 3: WILL or i ERG. I run one of the only

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Speaker 3: all appellate firms in the state, so I certainly know

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Speaker 3: how to do the job, and you know exactly we're

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Speaker 3: moving to the other side. Good to rule impartially, of course,

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Speaker 3: but in a way that upholds our constitutional rights, defends

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Speaker 3: our families. And as I say, we have too many

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Speaker 3: judges who run as conservatives, but once they get on

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Speaker 3: the bench, do not speak the truth, do not rule courageously,

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Speaker 3: don't vote to hear the hard cases, and don't rule

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Speaker 3: in a way that will protect our communities. So again,

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Speaker 3: you know, if they take that line of attack, I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's going to work out.

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Speaker 1: Very well for them, No, I don't think so. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of which, we were talking with listeners last week after

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Speaker 1: Maria Lazar, who would would have been your colleague on

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Speaker 1: the District two Court of Appeals and has endorsed you,

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Speaker 1: but is running for Wisconsin Supreme Court, and I have

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Speaker 1: been just sort of exhorting her to her campaign to

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Speaker 1: really take the fight to the left. Obviously, you are

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Speaker 1: bound by the Code of Judicial Conduct, which prohibits you

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Speaker 1: from saying how you would rule on a specific case

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Speaker 1: that could come before you as an appellate court judge.

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Speaker 1: But when you do get an opponent, do you plan

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Speaker 1: on taking that fight to them in a way that

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen in recent Supreme Court races.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, listen. I mean, look, I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: people are uncomfortable with the system we have here in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: But as they say in one of the Godfather movies,

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Speaker 3: this is the business we've chosen. We choose to elect

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Speaker 3: our judges, and judges have to be able to campaign.

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Speaker 3: Of course, you know there are ethical restrictions. Would never

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Speaker 3: do anything to violate those, But beyond that, we have

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Speaker 3: to be able to talk to voters, talk to them

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Speaker 3: about the things that they care about that they are hearing.

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Speaker 3: And absolutely, if that if that means getting a little

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Speaker 3: bit aggressive, I've got no qualms whatsoever about that.

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Speaker 1: Excellent Anthony Lucoco. He is running for District two Court

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Speaker 1: of Appeals. If you would like to learn more about

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Speaker 1: his campaign, you can find it at Lococo for judge

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Speaker 1: dot com l Ococo four four judge dot com. Anthony

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Speaker 1: is always a pleasure talking with you. Congratulations on forcing

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Speaker 1: Judge Neubauer out of this race. Best of luck too.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll be talking throughout this campaign.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Stan.

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Speaker 1: It is the Dan O'Donnell show, Conservative thought, not just talk.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back to it in just three minutes,

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Speaker 1: all right, Thanks once again to Anthony Lucoco for joining us.

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Speaker 1: You need strong judges at every level of the court system,

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Speaker 1: from the circuit courts here in Wisconsin all the way

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Speaker 1: up to the States Supreme Court. That's why it is

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Speaker 1: so utterly unnerving that we have gotten shellacked as conservatives

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Speaker 1: in the last three state Supreme Court races by double

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Speaker 1: digits in each one. You want to know why we

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Speaker 1: need strong appellate court judges because guests who just appealed

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Speaker 1: Waukeshaw County Circuit Court Judge Michael Maxwell's ruling from late

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Speaker 1: last week, we actually broke this story the Milwaukee Journals

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Speaker 1: that we broke this on Friday afternoon. Journal Sentinel didn't

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Speaker 1: actually get a report on it until yesterday. So if

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Speaker 1: you want the news three days before the newspaper of

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Speaker 1: record in this state, tune into the Dan O'Donnell show

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Speaker 1: each and every day. Judge Michael Maxwell ruled that weck

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Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Elections Commission need to start verifying citizenship of

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Speaker 1: all three point six million registered voters in this state

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Speaker 1: by comparing the voter atgistration list to records obtained from

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Speaker 1: the Department of Transportation. In other words, you need to

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Speaker 1: make sure that the people who are registered to vote

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Speaker 1: and eligible to vote in this state are actually eligible

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Speaker 1: to vote, passing the most basic qualification, being a citizen

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Speaker 1: of this country and a citizen of this state. You

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Speaker 1: would think that this is pretty elemental. Like if you're

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Speaker 1: an elections commission and you're charged with administering elections in

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Speaker 1: a state, that it would fall to you to validate

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Speaker 1: the citizenship of the people who participate in elections in

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Speaker 1: that state. Well, guess who stepped in, waving his hands

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Speaker 1: frantically saying no, no, no, no, no, no no. Josh Cole,

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Speaker 1: the attorney General, who just couldn't get enough support to

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Speaker 1: run for governor, requested a pause of the order, a

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Speaker 1: stay pending here eventual appeal call argues that the order

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Speaker 1: would quote require a massive overhaul of Wisconsin's voter registration

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Speaker 1: system end quote, to which I reply, yes it would,

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Speaker 1: and yes that would be good voters. Including long time

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Speaker 1: good government and honest election advocate. Artist Serney, who is

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Speaker 1: really invaluable in the fight against corrupt elections in this state,

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Speaker 1: argued that WEK has been violating state and federal law

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Speaker 1: by allowing people who aren't citizens onto its voter roles.

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Speaker 1: Judge Maxwell agreed, stating that WEK was quote failing in

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Speaker 1: the most basic task of ensuring that only lawful voters

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Speaker 1: are on the roles. Caull wants to appeal. Where would

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Speaker 1: that go if the Supreme Court doesn't take a direct

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Speaker 1: appeal from it? And this is the sort of case folks. Fortunately,

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Speaker 1: now that we have a liberal majority, a four to

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Speaker 1: three liberal majority that could very easily be five to

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Speaker 1: two after next April's election, they don't take a lot

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Speaker 1: of cases because they're remarkably lazy. But it would go

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Speaker 1: to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals or second District

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Speaker 1: Court of Appeals. Excuse me, circuit is in the federal level.

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Speaker 1: We have circuit court as our lowest level. In the

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin state court system. The district courts are the courts

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Speaker 1: of Appeals District two. So if that case is going

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Speaker 1: to be heard by a judge, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: heard by hopefully Athony Lecoco or the very very strong,

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Speaker 1: very good judge Shelley Grogan or Maria Lazar or Mark Gundrum.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a very conservative court. The problem

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Speaker 1: is that eventually, if the Supreme Court takes up the case,

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Speaker 1: it would inevitably, I think, overturn Maxwell's ruling. Even though

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Speaker 1: we read a good part of it on Friday Show,

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Speaker 1: it is undoubtedly correct. Wisconsin state law could not possibly

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Speaker 1: be clearer. It is the role of the administrative body.

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Speaker 1: If you are administering elections, you have an affirmative duty

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Speaker 1: to provide that only the people who are registered to

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Speaker 1: vote and actually able to vote in the elections pass

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Speaker 1: all of the qualifications of state law. In the state constitution,

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Speaker 1: we have three basic requirements for being able to vote

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Speaker 1: in the state of Wisconsin. One you need to be

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Speaker 1: eighteen years old. Two you need to be a citizen

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Speaker 1: of the United States. Three, you need to be a

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Speaker 1: citizen of the state of Wisconsin. That's it. If WEK

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Speaker 1: can't guarantee that. If WEC doesn't think that it's its

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Speaker 1: job to ensure that only people who meet those three

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Speaker 1: very basic qualifications are able to vote, then truly, what

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Speaker 1: is s WECK doing? Why do we even have a

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Elections Commission? And this would be worth investigating. Why

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Speaker 1: is it that Wisconsin's Attorney general ahead of an all

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Speaker 1: important gubernatorial election, ahead of an all important attorney general election,

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Speaker 1: which he announced today he is going to be running

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Speaker 1: in why would he not want the governing body in

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Speaker 1: charge of administering elections guaranteeing that only United States and

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin citizens are voting in the upcoming Wisconsin elections. It

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Speaker 1: really does make you think what exactly Democrats really say

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01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: when they say what they really mean when they say

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Speaker 1: they want good, clean elections and they want everybody voting.

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Speaker 1: What if I told you that our elections in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty twenty four weren't fair, weren't good,

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Speaker 1: weren't clean, and it wasn't because of fraud. It was

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Speaker 1: because of the United States Census. We will get into that.

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Speaker 1: It is a fascinating and I mean fascinating story. You

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Speaker 1: won't want to miss this. It's the Dan O'Donnell Show.

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Speaker 1: A listener wanted to know via the advetnos dot com

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Speaker 1: talk and text line when judges are appointed versus when

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Speaker 1: they're elected, and I thought, you know what that is

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Speaker 1: a that's a great question, because I bet you a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are wondering. Generally speaking, all federal judges

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Speaker 1: serve for life, and they are appointed by the president.

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Speaker 1: They do not ever run for reelection. They serve until

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Speaker 1: they retire or they die. Hence, why you have a

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Speaker 1: judge in Milwaukee who's currently seeing the overseeing the Hannah

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Speaker 1: Dugan case, who is about one hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 1: years old. He has been serving since the Taft Administration

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Speaker 1: Circuit Court of Appeals judges, United States Supreme Court judges,

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Speaker 1: they all serve for life. They get to choose when.

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Speaker 1: And the reason for this is that the framers of

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Speaker 1: the Constitution, believe it or not, the Constitution itself did

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Speaker 1: not actually set up the federal judiciary, nor did it

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Speaker 1: say how many Supreme Court. It just said that the

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Speaker 1: judicial power in the United States is vested in a

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court. The Constitution never actually established what that court

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Speaker 1: would do. It wasn't until a case in eight three

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Speaker 1: called Marbury versus Madison, where the Court determined that the

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Speaker 1: role of the court was to interpret the Constitution and

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Speaker 1: the laws of the United States, setting up the federal

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Speaker 1: standard of judicial review that has been mimicked by the

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Speaker 1: states as well. States are free to set up their

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Speaker 1: own judiciaries however they want. I believe most of them.

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Speaker 1: Don't quote me on this, most of them have appointed judges.

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Speaker 1: Here in Wisconsin, we don't. When our state was founded

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Speaker 1: in eighteen forty eight, our constitution provided that we would

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Speaker 1: have elected judges, and the Supreme Court justices will serve

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Speaker 1: for a term of ten years. And the idea there

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Speaker 1: was that you didn't want these permanent campaigns where every

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Speaker 1: four years a Supreme Court judge would have to run

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Speaker 1: for reelection. The thinking was that only one or maybe

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Speaker 1: twice in a judge's life, in a justice's life, would

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Speaker 1: they ever run for reelections. So you also have appellate

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Speaker 1: court judges and circuit court judges that have to run

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Speaker 1: for election. Now if one dies or retires midway through

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Speaker 1: the term, then the governor gets to appoint a replacement.

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Speaker 1: The replacement then serves until that term is up, where

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Speaker 1: they would have to run for a full term. So

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Speaker 1: I do hope that helps. Senator Jim Banks of Indiana

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Speaker 1: sent a letter to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick urging him

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Speaker 1: to quote, investigate and correct errors from the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: census that quote handed disproportionate political power to Democrats and

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Speaker 1: illegal aliens. The Census Bureau adopted a new and opaque

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Speaker 1: methodology called differential privacy that by design scrambles the population

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01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 1: of states and voting districts. As prepared by the Biden administration,

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01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty census reports miscounted the population of fourteen states,

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01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 1: wrongly allocating six congressional seats at Electoral College votes to

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. The reports may have also misconstrued the

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01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 1: population in a number of voting districts, and the reports

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01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 1: definitely included illegal aliens without tracking those alien citizenship status.

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Speaker 1: If left uncorrected, these errors will continue diluting the political

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Speaker 1: power of American citizens. Now, you might have noticed something

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01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 1: that he wrote in there, and that was that this

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01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 1: was under the Biden administration. That is not technically true.

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Speaker 1: Reapportionment happened during the Biden administration in twenty twenty one.

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01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 1: Every ten years. I didn't realize the five o'clock hour

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01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: was going to be such a civics lesson, but hey,

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01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:12,479
Speaker 1: it's it's ap government with mister O'Donnell in seventh period. Here,

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Speaker 1: the census is required by the Constitution and federal law

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01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: every ten years. At the start of every decade, there

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01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 1: is a census. The census takes one year. Then in

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01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:32,640
Speaker 1: the odd numbered year following that census, the data is interpreted,

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01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 1: the count is completed, and then there is reapportionment based

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01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 1: on where populations have moved, where more people have been born,

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01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 1: maybe more people have died. There is always going to

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01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:51,280
Speaker 1: be a set number of congressmen and women four hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty five members of the United States House of Representatives,

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01:45:55,320 --> 01:46:00,679
Speaker 1: no more, no less. One hundred Senators. Those don't every

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01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 1: state gets two, but in Congress in the House, those

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01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 1: numbers can change per state. If say, California gains population,

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01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 1: as it has for pretty much its entire history, it'll

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Speaker 1: get more Congressional representation, getting as many as fifty eight.

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01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 1: I believe was the number it maxed out at following

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01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 1: the twenty ten census. Fifty eight congressional representatives as well

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01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 1: as two senators, almost amazing. Over the past couple of

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01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:41,639
Speaker 1: census counts, however, some of those bigger states have been

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01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:48,639
Speaker 1: losing population. What Senator Banks is saying is that the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration, when it took office in early twenty twenty

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01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 1: one and was responsible. Sometimes that happens there's a presidential

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01:46:57,000 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 1: election and a new president takes power at the start

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01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 1: of a decade. The census might have been administered under

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01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 1: one president, but it's actually counted up and used for

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01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 1: reapportionment under another. That's what happened in twenty twenty one.

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01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 1: The Biden administration uses this new formula known as differential privacy.

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01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 1: What is that? According to Banks, it is opaque and

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01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 1: liable to mistaken count totals. Sure Enough, the twenty twenty

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01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 1: census overcounted the population in eight states and undercounted it

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01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 1: in six. The most extreme undercount was Arkansas at five

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01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:46,879
Speaker 1: point zh four percent. They undercounted the population of Arkansas

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01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 1: by five percent. That's hundreds of thousands of people. And

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01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 1: the largest overcount was Hawaii. At six point seventy nine percent.

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01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 1: As a result of these errors, Democrats gained at least

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Speaker 1: six net congressional seats and electoral College votes. As problematic

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01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: as the twenty twenty census was for apportionment, it may

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01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 1: have been disastrous for redistricting. Differential privacy alters the total

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01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 1: population of individual voting districts, meaning that any voting district

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01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 1: drawn since twenty twentiess Census may in fact have been

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01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 1: based on false data and may even have been unlawful.

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01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 1: The worst part is that we don't know how many

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01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:35,600
Speaker 1: voting districts are problematic. A file containing the original unaltered

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01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 1: census data exists, but only a few bureaucrats have access

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01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 1: to it. It is crucial that the Census Bureau republishes

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01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:50,599
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty census data using the raw data, so

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01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 1: that states have a clearer picture of their voting districts.

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01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 1: The Census Bureau must also use a methodology for the

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Speaker 1: twenty thirty census that accurately count state and voting district

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01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 1: populations and that does not disproportionately benefit one political party.

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Speaker 1: That from Senator Jim Banks of Indiana, that's actually rather remarkable.

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01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:27,840
Speaker 1: Differential privacy. It injects this, according to Banks noise, into

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01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 1: individual voting district called blocks for census purposes. Differential privacy

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01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 1: achieves this by randomly changing some correct demographic data into

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01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 1: false demographic data in order to make it impossible to

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01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 1: guess individual residents' identities within a census block. Bureaucrats have

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01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 1: been architecting differential policy or privacy for over twenty years.

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01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: In the Biden administration use the methodology when interpreting and

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01:49:56,320 --> 01:50:00,959
Speaker 1: publishing the data from the twenty twenty census. In other words,

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01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 1: what this was was an attempt to change exactly this

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01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 1: resulted in. Basically what happened is there was a dramatic

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01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:16,360
Speaker 1: undercount in southern states and a dramatic overcount in the

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Speaker 1: Northeast because of a privacy concerns and b issues related

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Speaker 1: to COVID nineteen and filling out this census. I still

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01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 1: don't understand. You do it over the internet. They were like,

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Speaker 1: the census taker is not coming. Remember, I said, what

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01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 1: was it? A census taker asked me A bunch of questions.

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Speaker 1: I ate his liver with faba beans and a nice

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01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 1: kiante silence of the lambs. No, that doesn't happen anymore.

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01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:46,519
Speaker 1: It's it's online. Although they do have people in the field,

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01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 1: the census takers to try to get the people who

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01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 1: are reluctant. Well, Black and Hispanic populations were less likely

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01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:59,639
Speaker 1: to do this in COVID, So because there weren't the

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01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 1: act excess that the census takers had to people's homes

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01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:05,759
Speaker 1: because of COVID nineteen, they sort of had to guess.

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Speaker 1: Then you add this what Senator Banks is saying, differential privacy,

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01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 1: to try to make it so that you can't tell

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Speaker 1: who an individual person is because you're answering if the

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01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 1: bureaucrats have access to your personal data. You're answering, you know,

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01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 1: some personal questions about where you live and all of that,

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01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:29,839
Speaker 1: and you do have a right to privacy of your data.

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01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 1: So they would sort of randomize and randomly change some

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01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,599
Speaker 1: of the demographic data to make it untrue. And what

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01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 1: Banks is saying is that in the process of doing this,

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Speaker 1: they used a formula where we don't know exactly what

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01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 1: they did. But magically, magically, red states are undercounted, their

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01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 1: minority populations are dramatically undercounted, whereas minority populations in blue

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01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 1: states are magically overcounted. He is saying there needs to

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01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 1: be a full audit of the twenty twenty census. These

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01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 1: errors need to be corrected. He's not saying we need

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01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 1: to readdistrict mid decade ahead of the twenty twenty six midterms.

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01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:18,679
Speaker 1: But this is very probably an issue, and in fact,

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01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 1: and in fact, there are some people who believe if

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01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:27,799
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty census was run correctly, then President Trump

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01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: would have been able to win the presidency without winning Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,

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01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 1: or Michigan, that he could have just picked up Georgia

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01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:41,480
Speaker 1: and Arizona and he would have won. Could you imagine

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01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:46,120
Speaker 1: if Flawd says it, Let's just say Kamala won all

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01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 1: three of those states. Trump swept every swing state, so

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Speaker 1: it was moot. It wasn't, as Kamala has been saying,

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Speaker 1: because she wants to run again in twenty twenty eight,

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01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 1: the closest election this century, which is insane. She expects

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Speaker 1: us not to remember two thousand, where there was a

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01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:08,880
Speaker 1: Supreme Court decision. Could you imagine if, because of bad

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01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 1: census data and a bad methodology employed by the Biden

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01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:19,520
Speaker 1: administration to count it, Kamala Harris won those three states,

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01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 1: won the presidency two seventy to two sixty eight, and

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01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 1: President Trump was denied his bid to return to the

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01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:31,640
Speaker 1: White House because instead of fudging the mail in ballots,

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01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 1: they fudged the census. That would have been a true

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01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 1: constitutional crisis. Thankfully it's been averarded. I second Senator Banks's

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01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:44,720
Speaker 1: demands that this be corrected. Before twenty thirty at the

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01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:50,719
Speaker 1: latest off season, engaged the New York Knicks in trade

1627
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 1: discussions for Yannis, with Yannis reportedly not totally happy with

1628
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:04,720
Speaker 1: the direct action of this franchise. ESPN's report indicates that

1629
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 1: while Yiannis's future is far from settled, the trade talks

1630
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 1: with the Knicks never advanced beyond the initial stages because

1631
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:20,920
Speaker 1: the Knicks just didn't offer a good enough package for

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01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 1: Ante Decompo. It was always believed that if the Bucks

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01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 1: were ever going to move on from their franchise cornerstone,

1634
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 1: I think outside of is it really arguable anymore. I mean,

1635
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:37,839
Speaker 1: Kareem was always considered the best player in franchise history,

1636
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 1: but his prime was mostly with the Lakers. Oscar Robertson

1637
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 1: I think Giannis, I mean, just by the eyeball test,

1638
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:51,920
Speaker 1: A two time MVP NBA Champion, guy who has won

1639
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 1: MVP and Defensive Player of the Year in the same season,

1640
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 1: played his entire career with the Bucks. I don't think

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01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 1: it's arguable at this point best player franchise history, but

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01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:04,840
Speaker 1: that the Bucks would want just a King's Ransom, four

1643
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:08,560
Speaker 1: or five first round picks, maybe a player or two

1644
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 1: to balance out salary as best they possibly could. But

1645
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:19,320
Speaker 1: this is interesting because the Bucks are again retooling the roster,

1646
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:22,840
Speaker 1: bringing in Miles Turner, cutting ties with Damian Lillard, who

1647
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 1: of course is missing the entire season with that bad

1648
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 1: injury he suffered in the playoffs. He's now back with

1649
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 1: the Portland Trailblazers, and this is going to be something

1650
01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bucks are able to quite shake.

1651
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 1: What is Giannis's future going to look like this season

1652
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 1: and beyond. Out of time back tomorrow with another edition

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Speaker 1: of The Dan O'Donnell's Show.