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Speaker 1: By Billy cunning in the Great American and welcome this

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Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon in the Tri State March madness is starting

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Speaker 1: for many cities, not so much US, but nonetheless Miami

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Speaker 1: plays tonight. We'll see what happens against West Virginia and more.

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Speaker 1: Plus March madness continues red S baseball. Last night, I'm

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Speaker 1: watching Venezuela beat up on the Americans. Venezuela is having

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Speaker 1: a good year. First of all, Maduro gets kicked out,

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Speaker 1: and then you got you got Gino Gino, Gino Suarez

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Speaker 1: hitting hitting the big double up in the left center

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Speaker 1: to score the winning run. And Suarez is going nuts

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Speaker 1: on the field with the Venezuelan flag. Then to take

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Speaker 1: advantage of that, Donald Trump quickly goes to his social

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Speaker 1: media accounts and says, Venezuela become our fifty first state.

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Speaker 1: So now we got Venezuela is going to be the

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Speaker 1: fifty first state along with Cuba. And now we're involved

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Speaker 1: in Ukraine, and now we're involved in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: Obama and the hell out of Iran, Iraq, whatever, Syria,

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Speaker 1: wherever it is. And we have a president now who's

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Speaker 1: promising to get us out of feign wars. I'd love

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Speaker 1: this and joining you and I now by so many issues,

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Speaker 1: including Cincinnatians, including Facebook, including autistic kids sadly attracted to ponds.

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Speaker 1: Is the great Brian Hamrick of the Power of Five

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Speaker 1: and Brian Hamrick. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Cincinnati's on the map again. A Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Red ball player wins the World Baseball Classic for Venezuela,

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Speaker 1: soon to be our fifty first state. Your comments, well.

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Speaker 2: Thanks again, mister Cunningham. I thought they had to line

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Speaker 2: up behind Puerto Rico. I thought they were going to

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Speaker 2: be the fifty first date fifty three, I don't. We

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Speaker 2: got to get and then Greenland. What happened to Greenland?

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Speaker 2: We're going to get Greenland at fifty four fifty four.

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Speaker 2: We better get to Betty Ross needs to get some

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Speaker 2: new stars out and start sewing because we're getting some

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Speaker 2: more states.

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Speaker 1: We got them all. I'm in the state of confusion.

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Speaker 1: That's where I am. I don't know where the hell

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Speaker 1: I am. I just hope Trump knows what the hell

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Speaker 1: he's doing. That's all I'm hoping the guy. Next week

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Speaker 1: we're bamba the hell and have everybody and now we

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Speaker 1: got fifty first dates, and it's unbelievable. Sores is the

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Speaker 1: hero in Venezuela. It's unbelievable. Venezuela's having a good year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they I guess they must be. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: following Venezuela. That what a mattup though, to have the

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Speaker 2: United States go up but against Venezuela. I mean, talk

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Speaker 2: about things I'd wonder about being rigged. I say, wait,

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Speaker 2: how do you get people to watch this thing? Well?

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Speaker 1: I guess what, you know?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: Does Iran have a baseball team? I'm thinking get Iran,

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Speaker 1: you know. Trump said the other day, I think I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take Cuba. What do you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure what we do with it. You know,

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Speaker 2: we could turn it over to the mob. They once

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bautista and that gang did a great job. I

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Speaker 1: saw the movie The Godfather with Hyman Roth. He was

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Speaker 1: running Cuba. Yeah, Fidel comes in and all hell breaks loose.

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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna get Cuba back. But let's talk about

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Speaker 1: your main things. You're on your way to Dayton and

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Speaker 1: some people. You know, car thieves right now are ubiquitous.

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Speaker 1: They're everywhere. Hundreds of cars are being stolen every day,

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Speaker 1: Social media plays a role. Explain that to the American

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Speaker 2: They're allays used cars, but they're high end and uh

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Speaker 1: How does somebody identify their tires on Facebook marketplace? I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well these were high end. You know, these tires

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Speaker 1: Well, before I called you, I wanted to talk about

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Speaker 1: Jenny dimm and that you had a conversation with Cecil Thomas,

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Speaker 1: who's a state Rep. He has a few lucid moments,

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Speaker 1: not many, but he had one with you. Explain how

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Speaker 1: like that, because putting a fence around every ponder lake

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Speaker 1: makes no sense at all. But this alert system might

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Speaker 1: explain that to the American people. Brian Hemrick, Well.

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Speaker 2: If you remember, so, these kids with autism tend to

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Speaker 2: They hadn't figured out exactly why all this stuff happens yet,

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Speaker 2: a lot of times they get out. This is what

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Speaker 2: We covered that extensively. It went through the legislature. First

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Speaker 2: there's some others now that are sponsoring it. That thing

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Speaker 2: their share. Remember the Westchester case Joshua Ale Keith. He

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Speaker 1: And as far as Jenny dem would that have helped

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Speaker 2: And in Dayton, Kentucky, the father there, they had a

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Speaker 1: So the idea is kentuckyo Hi, Indiana, the so called

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Speaker 1: Ian Alert would do what Let's say I live in

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Speaker 2: It's set off by state. That's why Ohio is trying

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Speaker 2: the family notifies the law enforcement department, my child's missing.

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Speaker 2: alarm immediately. The design is that it's supposed to go off,

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Speaker 2: So it's really designed to go off to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: It's not like an amber alert, you know. It's different

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Speaker 1: Lastly, the Inquiry and you had a story about Cincinnatians,

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, there may be a reason they use

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Speaker 2: We've got deep snow, you know. And look for our purposes,

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Speaker 2: there's no secret we don't. We're not going to show

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Speaker 2: You know. They've had a change. They they changed that

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Speaker 2: This guy is going to be better. And you never

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Speaker 1: It's like getting the bureau. Trying to get information out

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Speaker 1: You can't get nothing but happy talk. That makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you you cannot. It is. It is an issue.

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Speaker 2: Every TV station in the in the region knows about it.

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Speaker 2: Because look, we all know crime, for example, it goes up,

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Speaker 2: And if they were more responsive, I believe people would

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Speaker 2: They're working hard, they're trying to they're they're tracking down criminals,

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Speaker 1: Don't bother asking us.

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Speaker 2: We are police, honest with you. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: Not anymore.

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Speaker 2: You know you don't get it, not anymore.

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Speaker 1: No, we got to run. But if you find out

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Speaker 1: that information. Tony Bender likes to spend ten thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: for each tire, and on that marketplace side, he's on

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Speaker 1: it right now trying to find some fancy tires for

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Speaker 1: his fifty seven DeSoto. He's going to get those.

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Speaker 2: Tires and spend what you want.

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Speaker 1: You know even want suspend it forty thousand. I'm all right,

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Speaker 1: we got to run. But Brian Hamrick, you're the best

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Speaker 1: there is. Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show

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Speaker 1: and have a great day. Thank you, Brian.

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Speaker 2: Thanks again, mister Cunningham.

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Speaker 1: Brian Hamrick The Power of Five, covering everything from Boone

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Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundreds WLW