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Speaker 3: and we'll be breaking down the Bengals forty seven of
Speaker 3: the forty two loss to the Chicago Bears at pay
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Speaker 2: Do the big One.
Speaker 3: The Bengals, they were fifty four seconds away from a
Speaker 3: miracle victory, down fourteen points, forty one to twenty seven.
Speaker 3: They score fifteen points in forty nine seconds thanks to
Speaker 3: a pair of touchdown passes sandwiched around the recovery of
Speaker 3: an on side kick, and they lead forty two to
Speaker 3: forty one. And then Cincinnati's ghost defense, and that's my
Speaker 3: nickname for him, their ghost defense, anything but Golden, reared
Speaker 3: its ugly head once again. Chicago quarterback Caleb Williams fires
Speaker 3: a fifty eight yard touchdown pass to tight end Colston
Speaker 3: Loveland with seventeen seconds remaining.
Speaker 2: And the Bears win.
Speaker 3: Improving to five and three in the Bengals fall to
Speaker 3: three and six two and three at home.
Speaker 2: They lost their sixth game in seven tries.
Speaker 3: And just an unbelievable game today attract meet nine lead changes,
Speaker 3: one thousand and seventy one total yards in this game,
Speaker 3: five hundred and seventy six by the Chicago Bears four
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety five by the Bengals. Joe Flacco was unreal,
Speaker 3: throwing for four hundred and seventy yards four touchdowns with
Speaker 3: two interceptions, but the most striking shocking.
Speaker 2: Number out there.
Speaker 3: The Bears rushed for two hundred and eighty three yards
Speaker 3: to the Bengals forty six. There were some incredible individual
Speaker 3: performances in this game. T Higgins nine targets, seven catches,
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty one yards, two touchdowns, including an
Speaker 3: unbelievable forty four yarder, but the Bengals ghost defense could
Speaker 3: not contain Caleb Williams and a rookie running back by
Speaker 3: the name of Kyle Menangay, the two hundred and thirty
Speaker 3: third pick in the seventh round, a rookie out of
Speaker 3: Rutgers rushes twenty six times for one hundred and seventy
Speaker 3: six yards and Bruce Kazerski. If I didn't watch it,
Speaker 3: if I didn't listen, I wouldn't have believed forty seven
Speaker 3: to forty two, Bengals so close to a miracle victory.
Speaker 2: Disappointment once again.
Speaker 4: I was sitting there watching it, and it was like
Speaker 4: dejavou all over again. I felt like I was last week,
Speaker 4: sitting in the same side of the club level watching
Speaker 4: the same Bengal defense. This week, our special teams contributed heavily.
Speaker 4: We had great outstanding performance special teams wise return a kickoff, Yes,
Speaker 4: we aget an on side kick, it's all going our way.
Speaker 4: We block a kick, or yeah, we blocked the kick
Speaker 4: field goal and they missed one. It's all going right.
Speaker 4: We're throwing them all up and down the field, and
Speaker 4: then and then what happens?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: I left the stadium after the Bears went up by
Speaker 4: that second score late in the fourth quarter. I had
Speaker 4: to get home, had to get home, get here with
Speaker 4: like five and changed standing and waiting for my ride,
Speaker 4: watching the jumbo tron from where I'm getting a ride,
Speaker 4: and the Bengals court touchdown and a two point conversion,
Speaker 4: and thinking, well, we gotta get the outside kick. We
Speaker 4: haven't got one of those laws in forever. We get
Speaker 4: the hot say kicks, this can happen. And then the
Speaker 4: worst thing happened in the world. We scored too quick.
Speaker 3: We did.
Speaker 4: When's the last time we said that we scored too quick?
Speaker 4: That's amazing, it really is.
Speaker 2: And that came with fifty eight seconds to go.
Speaker 4: You know, you first thought is, well, OK, fifty eight seconds,
Speaker 4: that they only have to go thirty yards for a
Speaker 4: field goal, and that's probably the way the Bengals will
Speaker 4: lose the game, the field.
Speaker 3: Goal for fifty four seconds, and you're right, Uh, Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: They just had too much time. And this is what
Speaker 3: we're dealt with here, Bruce. And it's great to see you,
Speaker 3: by the way, and thanks for joining me. Last time
Speaker 3: on Sports Talk you called this a must win. Everybody did.
Speaker 3: You can't lose back to back home games at this
Speaker 3: stage of the season, go to three and six and
Speaker 3: keep falling farther behind the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 5: Especially going into the bye week.
Speaker 4: Yes, that that one week off is going to feel
Speaker 4: like a month.
Speaker 5: It will I feel like a month.
Speaker 4: It's like you play a baseball game and losing on
Speaker 4: a walk off and you play the next day.
Speaker 5: It's over. You gotta drop it.
Speaker 4: This one's this one's like uh, like I said, dejahfou,
Speaker 4: it keeps haunting, haunting the fans and they were livid.
Speaker 4: You know, when you sit in the stands and you
Speaker 4: watch the game, you're not sitting in the press corps.
Speaker 4: You're not sitting The fans were beside themselves livid.
Speaker 5: Uh. There were I don't want to.
Speaker 4: Say as many because they didn't have an accurate count,
Speaker 4: but the cheering was louder, be honest for the Bears
Speaker 4: at some points in the game than it was for
Speaker 4: the Bengals, and that can't happen at home.
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams and Kyle Manonge and the Bears turned play
Speaker 3: Course Stadium into their own personal playground there for most
Speaker 3: of this game.
Speaker 5: It was truly sad.
Speaker 4: But you know, I sat up there and I kept saying,
Speaker 4: this is what you know, we actually had to stop
Speaker 4: in the first series that we got to call for
Speaker 4: a holding penalty, defensive holding and you know, okay, well
Speaker 4: they stopped at once and be able to stop them again.
Speaker 4: Not the rest of the day, not the rest of
Speaker 4: the day. I guess they made them punt once, but
Speaker 4: not the rest of the day. You feel when they
Speaker 4: settle for a field goal, that's a stop anymore.
Speaker 3: Chase Brown drops a wide open pass that he might
Speaker 3: have been.
Speaker 2: Able to score on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and that caused a forty one yard field goal.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: So the Bengals go up ten to seven, and then
Speaker 3: Cairo Santos misses a field goal, but dj Ivy gets
Speaker 3: called for being in the neutral zone.
Speaker 2: They wind up scoring a touchdown.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when they got new life at that point in
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 4: You got the you got the five yard illegal hand,
Speaker 4: legal contact by the defender, and then you got that
Speaker 4: one off side.
Speaker 5: You just feel it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4: There was another moment a little while later where you
Speaker 4: just felt something was just gonna happen against us. We're
Speaker 4: not gonna do this, We're not gonna do that, And
Speaker 4: you start to get the doubts because they certainly had
Speaker 4: enough unsuccessful. But again, Joe Flacco and the receivers, I
Speaker 4: mean Jamar Chason t Higgins was out unbelievable, unbelievable, and
Speaker 4: they were playing their butts off. They wanted to win
Speaker 4: this game in the worst way. Uh, But there's something
Speaker 4: missing on defense. I don't think it's I don't think
Speaker 4: it's effort. I I really don't think it's efforts. Whether
Speaker 4: it's schemes, we're not we're not getting We got pressure
Speaker 4: on Killer Williams on on that long. The problem with
Speaker 4: getting pressure was we didn't have anybody when he ran.
Speaker 4: And that was my biggest going in catching the rabbit.
Speaker 4: You know, as when he broke. When he broke, the
Speaker 4: tain er stepped up, there was nobody home.
Speaker 2: He's Bruce Kazerski. This is Chick Ludwig.
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Speaker 3: Lane till eight thirty tonight and Bruce. The Bengals came
Speaker 3: in really with the lead. The east penalized team in
Speaker 3: the National Football League at an average of five a game. Well,
Speaker 3: they had five midway through the second quarter and a penalty,
Speaker 3: and every one of them was crippling everyone. And finally
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase gets his first catch at the nine to
Speaker 3: twenty five mark of the second quarter. A Joe Flacco
Speaker 3: fumble got overturned, thank goodness, and then he hits Chase
Speaker 3: for thirty seven yards first and goal at the six
Speaker 3: yard line. And what happens Orlando Brown on the next
Speaker 3: play an incompletion in the end zone, Orlando Brown gets
Speaker 3: tagged with a fifteen yard unsportsmanlike penalty and that just
Speaker 3: killed that drive. So instead of getting a touchdown, they
Speaker 3: have to settle for a field goal, and that.
Speaker 4: Hurt every every players had had situations in a game
Speaker 4: where they've been chief shot at and they've been beaten.
Speaker 4: He was beaten several times prior to that by the
Speaker 4: defense event on that side probably and the one time
Speaker 4: he got run over, and he's a good player, but
Speaker 4: you know, he just didn't have his best day at
Speaker 4: that point and it was frustrated.
Speaker 5: And when.
Speaker 4: Whatever happened on that play, he got in a fight.
Speaker 4: I'm watching the play on this side, and next thing
Speaker 4: you know, we get a melee going on the other
Speaker 4: side of the field and he drew the flag. And
Speaker 4: you just in that situation, knowing the way things are going,
Speaker 4: with a frustrations mounting everywhere, you can't do that. You
Speaker 4: just you just can't do that. And that's that's as
Speaker 4: big a play in the game. That's a bigger penalties
Speaker 4: as in the game.
Speaker 3: And it was fourteen to ten at that point in
Speaker 3: favor of Chicago. The Bengals had to settle for a
Speaker 3: field goal. Fourteen to thirteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that that's a four point, yes, four points penalty,
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, momentum, you had all the momentum
Speaker 4: in the world. You had players making plays and then
Speaker 4: then you get the big fellow getting that penalty, and
Speaker 4: that's that's that's crippling.
Speaker 5: It really is.
Speaker 4: There's no there's no excuse for it. I know they
Speaker 4: they talked to him on the sidelines and I'm sure
Speaker 4: he feels bad about it, but it happened.
Speaker 5: You know, you just you just can't do that.
Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones.
Speaker 3: Pat leads us off in reading Pat Hi, how are
Speaker 3: you today?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 7: God? You know you know me.
Speaker 8: I usually don't listen to the postgame show where when
Speaker 8: they lose, because it's such a joke. But I thought
Speaker 8: i'd try today and see if any truth or reality
Speaker 8: would be discussed. Now, just as I thought, not a chance.
Speaker 6: Wayne box Miller said that this team doesn't quit.
Speaker 7: Well, maybe the.
Speaker 6: Offense doesn't quit, but what about the defense? He said,
Speaker 6: we did a great job on special teams to get
Speaker 6: the onside kick. He said that the Bengals had a
Speaker 6: lot of time to regroup.
Speaker 8: Really now, when Dave talked to the head coach, Taylor
Speaker 8: said that the defense is often one step sorge and
Speaker 8: we didn't have enough takeaways. What about knowing how to
Speaker 8: tackle and putting more effort into that. I have never
Speaker 8: seen a team that tackles so horribly. And they talked
Speaker 8: about having a bunch of guys that are leaders, who
Speaker 8: are our leaders on defense. They went over fifteen minutes
Speaker 8: without even intimating that our defense is absolutely horrific.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm calling it the ghost defense. Anything but gold.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 6: I mean I couldn't take anymore, so I turned it off.
Speaker 6: But now I just want to give you one.
Speaker 8: Example of the embarrassing nature of our defense.
Speaker 6: On Chicago's first drive in the second half, the Bears
Speaker 6: running back who was fantastic, but then again, he was
Speaker 6: playing the Bengals. He had just gotten the first down,
Speaker 6: but are number ninety eight. I had to look up
Speaker 6: his name, p J. Splayton. I was shocked that I
Speaker 6: didn't know who he.
Speaker 8: Was, but I have never ever heard his name for
Speaker 8: anything describing a good play. He was kneeling on the
Speaker 8: ground doing an Arnold Schwarzenegger pose, flexing his muscles after
Speaker 8: they got a first down. I mean, how embarrassing is that?
Speaker 6: Naturally they went on to score a touchdown. Are is
Speaker 6: he one of those great leaders we have or is
Speaker 6: anyone on this defense accountable for anything? Would you tell me.
Speaker 2: It's bad?
Speaker 3: And we're stuck with it. This is who they have,
Speaker 3: and there's too many young players. They're counting on them
Speaker 3: and they're giving them a experience. Meanwhile, they're getting run over.
Speaker 3: They're not getting taken to the wood shed. They're getting
Speaker 3: taken to the wood chipper.
Speaker 5: I'm just looking at some stats here.
Speaker 4: Myself and Jordan Battle five tackles, seven assists for twelve.
Speaker 4: Carter linebacker five tackles, five assists for ten. Dax Hill
Speaker 4: defensive back four tackles, three assists for seven. Gino Stone
Speaker 4: four tackles, three assists for seven. Those top four tacklers
Speaker 4: defensive backs are one linebacker.
Speaker 5: That's it, yep or Berks three tackles, three assists.
Speaker 8: I'm just watching that last touchdown they got again once again,
Speaker 8: two guys trying to tackle the guy who scored the
Speaker 8: touchdown and they just off of them.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, they each that in the pros. Or do
Speaker 6: they assume you already know how to tackle?
Speaker 4: I assume they expect you to tackle. The defensive backs
Speaker 4: that I played with tackle. And I'm certain I'm not
Speaker 4: going to speak too badly about I think this was
Speaker 4: all foreseeable. I'm not sure that they're they've grown a
Speaker 4: whole bunch in the AL Golden defense.
Speaker 10: And I.
Speaker 4: Know he's a great guy and he's a good coach,
Speaker 4: but they have not gotten better and schimatic wise, whatever
Speaker 4: it is, they've not gotten better, and they're not taking
Speaker 4: chances to get better. They're not the blitzeres aren't working
Speaker 4: when he calls them because somebody gets wide open that
Speaker 4: they dropped the coverage on a back out of the
Speaker 4: backfield completely one time. And there's just so many, so
Speaker 4: many little things, and they're a step here and a
Speaker 4: step there. As the coach said, it is a step.
Speaker 4: But it's the NFL. You're a step behind. You're a
Speaker 4: step behind, you lose.
Speaker 3: They've give it up at least twenty seven points now
Speaker 3: since the openers. That's eight straight games at least twenty
Speaker 3: seven points. And we had the stat last week fifty
Speaker 3: four and four when scoring thirty eight or more points. Well,
Speaker 3: now he's one and four. Scoring thirty eight points. One
Speaker 3: and four is their record in the last two years.
Speaker 4: We were crying over our spilt milk last week when
Speaker 4: they scored thirty eight and lost.
Speaker 5: Today they scored forty two and lost. Yeah, that makes
Speaker 5: it even worse.
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't understand why the coach won't even
Speaker 8: call them out and say something.
Speaker 6: Besides, they're one step behind.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, well, if you saw what the
Speaker 3: what the players only meeting.
Speaker 2: What that meant?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, he's in a very very tough situation because
Speaker 4: because his neck is more on the line than theirs,
Speaker 4: be honestly, because you can't you can't get a whole
Speaker 4: news set of players at this stage. You know, I
Speaker 4: think he's doing a great job offensively, but it's not
Speaker 4: working defensive.
Speaker 3: Pat, We've got to run. We've reached the top of
Speaker 3: the hour.
Speaker 2: News.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you calling. Hey, he's Bruce Kezerski. This is Chick Ludwigan.
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Speaker 3: Chick Ludwig. We're live at the Wings and Rings Oakleigh
Speaker 3: forty six to fifteen Factory Colony Lane. We will be
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Speaker 3: Bengals loss to the Chicago.
Speaker 2: Bears like a wrecking ball.
Speaker 3: And Bruce, you mentioned it as soon as you came
Speaker 3: in today that the Bears had a great game plan,
Speaker 3: knowing how aggressive this young defense wanted to be, trying to.
Speaker 2: Make up for last week, and they kind of played
Speaker 2: right in.
Speaker 4: That was my first thought watching sitting up there watching
Speaker 4: the first couple of series, is the Bengals are flying
Speaker 4: around to the ball there trying to take away I
Speaker 4: mean that talk, this is the defense only meeting.
Speaker 5: They were gonna fly around, they were gonna.
Speaker 4: Make plays, and they were except for all the trick
Speaker 4: plays that they kept overlooking. And they ran every trick
Speaker 4: play in the book. Remember this head coach came from
Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions and Dan Campbell, and they ran every
Speaker 4: trick play in the book, and I swear we saw
Speaker 4: every one.
Speaker 5: Of them today.
Speaker 4: They ran lateral pat to double passes, they were in
Speaker 4: reverse passes, they threw back screens to the quarterback. It
Speaker 4: was just a tremendous game plan. I thought they didn't
Speaker 4: run out of tricks.
Speaker 3: They turned the Bengals defense every which way but loose.
Speaker 2: It really did they Wow.
Speaker 4: They were flying around, but they were going the wrong
Speaker 4: direction sometimes and that's again that hurts, and it's a
Speaker 4: one step that's coach said, you're you're one step away
Speaker 4: from making the play. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 4: they were able to get that pass off and throw
Speaker 4: it backside to a screen to the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams he catches two passes yea for a touchdown.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it was crazy, it really, this was just a
Speaker 3: wild game, Bruce, And it was like it was almost
Speaker 3: reminded me of Flag football.
Speaker 2: For a while.
Speaker 5: Well, there was not a lot of hit There was
Speaker 5: not a lot of tackling going on.
Speaker 3: Well and point all you hit to do is touch
Speaker 3: your pinky on the player and he's down. Yeah, okay
Speaker 3: after the interception, and that really helped the Bengals.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at Joe Flacco throwing for Feuner in seventy
Speaker 4: yards and the running game that's that ran so well
Speaker 4: last week thirty one yards.
Speaker 3: Well, two hundred and eighty three rushing yards for the Bears,
Speaker 3: forty six for the Bengals.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: And not only do they throw it a bunch, they
Speaker 4: ran out of a bunch the Bears.
Speaker 5: It was. It was the six hundred or five hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty total yards.
Speaker 3: Offense, five seventy.
Speaker 5: Six, it was. It was just unbelievable. Look a track meet.
Speaker 4: Every time they got on the field, it was up
Speaker 4: and down the field.
Speaker 3: You're right, let's go out to the phones. Mark is
Speaker 3: in Florence High Mark.
Speaker 12: Yeah, how's it going.
Speaker 13: I just wanted to make three points about the game.
Speaker 13: I thought the momentum changed when when Chase Brown dropped that.
Speaker 14: Pass oh yeah, early in the game.
Speaker 13: And then the big the big one was that when
Speaker 13: that missfield goal happened and the dj ivy was outside,
Speaker 13: I thought.
Speaker 7: That was a big game changer right there.
Speaker 13: And and the last point I'm gonna make, even with
Speaker 13: that completion to the tight end at the end of
Speaker 13: the game, if you tackle him, get him on the ground,
Speaker 13: and don't because they were running out of time.
Speaker 7: That field goal kicker was struggling the whole game.
Speaker 11: He missed two field goals. So my my thing.
Speaker 13: Was get him on the ground, make that kicker beat
Speaker 13: you with his leg, because it wasn't no guarantee he
Speaker 13: was gonna make it. And Jordan Battle was just he
Speaker 13: just put his shoulder into him. He didn't wrap him
Speaker 13: up and trying to tackle.
Speaker 4: So I'm not I'm not even going to go so
Speaker 4: far as to say they needed to get that guy
Speaker 4: on the ground. If they'd got the guys on the
Speaker 4: ground earlier in the game, you know, if they stopped
Speaker 4: and drive earlier in the game, maybe there's not fifty
Speaker 4: seconds left.
Speaker 13: I mean, this particular game, I don't blame Zach the
Speaker 13: coach on them losing it. I think you just have
Speaker 13: to point the finger all on that defense. That defense
Speaker 13: just didn't get the job done.
Speaker 12: At no point in the game.
Speaker 13: And then those penalties, you know, the Bengals kind of
Speaker 13: you know, kind of beat themselves. So I'll get off
Speaker 13: and listen to the rest of the show.
Speaker 5: I know we had a we had the holding penalty
Speaker 5: or any game.
Speaker 7: Sad we here, Bob Trump, he passed away.
Speaker 4: Pass interference that we have. We weren't close enough to
Speaker 4: get a pass interference.
Speaker 3: Well, and Demetrius Knight with the illegal hands. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: I thought it was kind of a tickie tack clawtack.
Speaker 2: But still that kept that drive going and they scored.
Speaker 4: Now, you might see that kind of call earlier in
Speaker 4: the game to let everybody know we're calling it tight today.
Speaker 4: Don't get handsy and h then you didn't see at
Speaker 4: the rest of the game.
Speaker 2: And Bruce, how often don't we see it?
Speaker 3: This happened in the Super Bowl down in Miami where
Speaker 3: at the Chicago Bears ran back the opening kickoff for
Speaker 3: a touchdown and then Peyton Manning goes out and beats
Speaker 3: him for the Colts.
Speaker 2: But anyway, and.
Speaker 3: That was my thought, Yeah, great for Charlie Jones, that
Speaker 3: was awesome. Ninety eight yards a lightning bolt right out
Speaker 3: of the gate, and that caused the the time of
Speaker 3: possession to be really skewed and the number of snaps too.
Speaker 2: By the Bengals conversession.
Speaker 4: The conversation was about, you know, they won, They won
Speaker 4: the toss and elected to kick offf they wanted. They deferred,
Speaker 4: they wanted the ball start of the second half because
Speaker 4: they get the potential pre pre half and post half score,
Speaker 4: which they they got. But then we returned the opening
Speaker 4: kickoff and that supposedly so shoots that theory the heck.
Speaker 5: You know, but it didn't. It didn't. It haunted us,
Speaker 5: it really did.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 2: Let's go back out to the phones. Keith is in Muncie. Hey, Keith, Hello, Yes.
Speaker 7: Sir, Hey, good day to you. I wish you the
Speaker 7: best as you.
Speaker 12: Want to tell you you're one of the legends of radio.
Speaker 3: You are.
Speaker 12: You belong in the Hall of Fame, your voice. But
Speaker 12: I mean, just like the guy from Louisville Radio up
Speaker 12: here in Fort Wayne.
Speaker 14: But want to tell you that it's like your if,
Speaker 14: like your defense and your your coach is bought off.
Speaker 12: I don't understand it. And I mean, you guys are good,
Speaker 12: but I just don't understand why they fall on their faith.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm.
Speaker 12: Sorry for UC for falling the other day over there, Utah.
Speaker 12: You know I've followed you guys all the time, but
Speaker 12: that's just like the Rids and the Sin today at Bengals.
Speaker 12: I have so much faith in you guys. Hell, you
Speaker 12: want to know the truth, I could buy almost either
Speaker 12: team all by myself. You want to know the truth.
Speaker 12: I could buy them. But you guys are good, and
Speaker 12: I'm sorry for what you have to have to deal with.
Speaker 3: Well, Ken, we appreciate it, We appreciate the call, Thank
Speaker 3: you very much. Bengals fans are frustrated, They're angry, they're upset.
Speaker 3: They have every reason to be angry and upset. You
Speaker 3: can't lose at home. And now they're two and three
Speaker 3: at home, and they've lost six out of seven games.
Speaker 4: And now the frustration of a bye week, coming off
Speaker 4: two horrible losses eighty points in two games and you're
Speaker 4: zero and two. The fans are gonna gel on, are
Speaker 4: gonna sit on this for for another two weeks before
Speaker 4: the game and won't be home, and so who knows
Speaker 4: in the time period it takes for them to get home.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's gonna be a long period of time.
Speaker 3: Hey, we've got to take a break, but we're gonna
Speaker 3: come back with another Bengals legend when we return. This
Speaker 3: is Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski, and you're listening to
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Speaker 3: seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back
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Speaker 3: Factory Colony Lane. Bengals fall forty seven to forty two
Speaker 3: to the Chicago Bears. Today in the Bears turn pay
Speaker 3: Course Stadium into their own personal playground. And on the
Speaker 3: phone right now with us former Bengals.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: From special teams to wide receiver, He did it all,
Speaker 3: Mike Martin, Mike, Welcome to seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: We love you much.
Speaker 10: What's going on, Chicken, because how you guys doing?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 2: All right, Mike, We're hanging in there.
Speaker 12: Man.
Speaker 14: Let me tell you something coming from Chicago.
Speaker 9: You guys know that's where I live now, Yes, sir,
Speaker 9: I was back before.
Speaker 5: We got here.
Speaker 9: I'm talking trash all week by what by what was
Speaker 9: going to happen? I get in town yesterday, I go
Speaker 9: out to a couple events the Bears fans. They got
Speaker 9: five buses.
Speaker 13: People in a club.
Speaker 9: I walked in with Big Kid on and I almost
Speaker 9: thought I was back in Chicago. That's how I mean,
Speaker 9: that's how many.
Speaker 5: Bears fans that there were.
Speaker 9: But oh, listen, I'm so frustrated. And I know, you know.
Speaker 9: I was with a couple of guys, a couple of
Speaker 9: former players to day, and everyone's frustrated. Man, you cannot
Speaker 9: play defense the way these guys are playing defense.
Speaker 7: You just can't.
Speaker 9: You cannot win any games. You can't bump people anymore.
Speaker 9: This is a physical game. You gotta rap. I told someone,
Speaker 9: I don't know what they do throughout the week. I
Speaker 9: know it's not real physical practices and all that kind
Speaker 9: of stuff and hitting and tackling. They have to get
Speaker 9: back to fundamentals. They have to get They need to
Speaker 9: bring out a tackling dummy and have every defensive player
Speaker 9: hit and wrap the dummy and take the dummy to
Speaker 9: the ground because for the last couple of weeks, that's
Speaker 9: all that's been happening. They think they can bump a
Speaker 9: guy and expect the cat of fall and it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 14: Man.
Speaker 9: I had friends from all over the country calling me
Speaker 9: after the game, Mike, the Bengals are embarrassment, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 9: you know, I said, I'm not gonna totally say that.
Speaker 9: I said, I said, offense is putting up some points,
Speaker 9: but they still you know, offense still making a little
Speaker 9: small mistakes as well. But and defensively, they gotta get
Speaker 9: back to fundamentals of chocolate, that's all.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The gap control is just brutal. We saw this Manongae
Speaker 3: just slither through, you know, like a shot through the
Speaker 3: defensive line.
Speaker 4: That's that's that all pro Monogae, the future Hall of
Speaker 4: Famer in Mononga.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. And they brought in a guy. They
Speaker 3: brought in a guy that they they just brought up
Speaker 3: from the practice squad, and he went two carries for
Speaker 3: thirty yards.
Speaker 15: But it's read.
Speaker 9: But yeah, I'm talking about angles. They're taking bad angles.
Speaker 9: They're they're losing contained that stuff you learned in college.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're drafted. They're drafted to not do that right?
Speaker 16: Right?
Speaker 9: How you lose containing when you know that's one of
Speaker 9: your only responsibilities. If if, if you, if you have contains,
Speaker 9: stay outside, put your show on the outside, stay out there.
Speaker 9: These guys a different in different inside, and folks is
Speaker 9: running right around them.
Speaker 4: TV's are coming inside. They did it all last week
Speaker 4: to the dvs to coming inside.
Speaker 5: That block in.
Speaker 3: Life was There was a play when when Briton Brown
Speaker 3: ranch with the twenty two yard touchdown to make a
Speaker 3: thirty one to twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, the announcers pointed.
Speaker 3: It out the Bengals defensive line they were slanting to
Speaker 3: the weak side and the Bears were overloaded on the
Speaker 3: right side.
Speaker 5: That's That's what I'm talking about. Scheme wise.
Speaker 4: How could you either somebody made the wrong call or
Speaker 4: or they just are are coach to do that and
Speaker 4: it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. They're constantly overad to
Speaker 4: the wrong side.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and when those kinds of things happen, man, it
Speaker 9: makes you wonder do you have confident players on the
Speaker 9: team or, like you guys said, are they being coached wrong?
Speaker 16: Something something has a.
Speaker 9: Change, you know.
Speaker 16: I don't think they go.
Speaker 9: You know, it's hard to figure out if they even
Speaker 9: got a shout of getting in playoffs. Uh, but something
Speaker 9: has to change because if this continues, the Bengals defense
Speaker 9: will be the laughing stock of the NFL. This game
Speaker 9: is going to be talked about on every major network
Speaker 9: for the rest of the week until Thursday.
Speaker 5: Night for two weeks. They don't play again for a while, two.
Speaker 7: Weeks, right, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 9: And now they got to sit back and hear all
Speaker 9: this stuff.
Speaker 2: For two weeks.
Speaker 3: Losing the next week, it feels like two or three weeks.
Speaker 2: Go bye week.
Speaker 3: Coming on two losses, it's gonna feel like a month,
Speaker 3: like a month.
Speaker 9: Yes, And the thing is the best thing these guys
Speaker 9: can do, you know, to get their minds back. Go home,
Speaker 9: wherever you live, go home, go home, and come back with.
Speaker 7: A fresh with a fresh fresh.
Speaker 9: Mind, so you can get down to tackling any strapping
Speaker 9: up and tackling.
Speaker 3: Eight straight games giving up twenty seven points.
Speaker 5: Well, no, there was a and you were you were
Speaker 5: part of this mic.
Speaker 4: There was a period of time when we were when
Speaker 4: Browning was the quarterback and everybody was throwing their their
Speaker 4: hands up in the air about how poorly the offense
Speaker 4: was performing, and they were they own they had to
Speaker 4: own it. But at the same time, was the defense
Speaker 4: doing a whole lot better? And it was it was
Speaker 4: so bad offense will be that nobody even paid much
Speaker 4: attention to how poorly the defense was playing. We constantly
Speaker 4: put them in bad situations and they weren't answering the
Speaker 4: bell at all. You know, they were giving up touchdowns
Speaker 4: and and so here we are now here all the
Speaker 4: nine games in the regular season, and now it's it's
Speaker 4: come to a head, Like you say, something.
Speaker 5: Has to happen.
Speaker 10: Here's the thing.
Speaker 15: Let me tell you this real quickly.
Speaker 9: If I'm a defensive coach, is exactly what I do,
Speaker 9: and you cant sugarcoat it. I'm pulling up the field
Speaker 9: and cause you know how Bruce and the beat of
Speaker 9: the coaches and off of the coaches would play one
Speaker 9: play for about ten minutes and go down the line
Speaker 9: and look at everybody's position, look at what you're doing,
Speaker 9: Look at this, look at your footwork, look at this,
Speaker 9: look at your attack. They need to do that all next.
Speaker 4: Week, you know what, Then they can take one game
Speaker 4: and make a highlight film of what not to do.
Speaker 5: Exactly comes a tackling.
Speaker 17: Exactly because Eric, I guarantee you every last player on
Speaker 17: that field pretty much is an example of what you
Speaker 17: don't do.
Speaker 16: And here's the thing I'm gonna tell you guys this.
Speaker 11: I left the stadium.
Speaker 9: I left the stadium when they were down by fourteen.
Speaker 15: I'm yeah, right.
Speaker 9: I get to the car and I say, okay, binge, okay,
Speaker 9: bingers went down the score. If they go down the score,
Speaker 9: maybe they can get the doll side kick. Boom, they
Speaker 9: got the downside kick. I'm like, okay, now they.
Speaker 6: Can put themselves in a position and win the game.
Speaker 15: They go right down the field, score, win the game,
Speaker 15: and I'm thinking, okay, uh uh, the other team has
Speaker 15: the ball now, so so first.
Speaker 9: Down nothing, second down nothing. By this time, I'm in
Speaker 9: the car listen to any radio.
Speaker 7: The radio goes out.
Speaker 15: I don't know what happened.
Speaker 7: The radio goes Who's out.
Speaker 9: When it comes back in, uh laughing and saying, yeah
Speaker 9: that was that was a great touchdown.
Speaker 10: Fifty a young Chicago, I'm.
Speaker 9: Like, what, wait, wait a minute, fifty year.
Speaker 15: I just saw it not too long ago.
Speaker 9: I just saw what happened, and I was almost sick
Speaker 9: to my stomach.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, it would have been better.
Speaker 4: It would have been better to be down by by
Speaker 4: like uh two points and making and had the Bengals
Speaker 4: slow play and kicking field goal to win that game
Speaker 4: rather than having to have a touchdown as they had
Speaker 4: to have a touchdown.
Speaker 5: They made a big play.
Speaker 4: Congratulations, now you put Now you put us in position
Speaker 4: to have to play defense again.
Speaker 3: And Mike, I hate to cut you off. We've reached the.
Speaker 2: Bott with the aller By.
Speaker 14: I just want to listen.
Speaker 16: I just want to I just want to say hello.
Speaker 7: To you guys.
Speaker 11: Man.
Speaker 9: I listen to you guys at Chicago.
Speaker 15: So y'all do a great job.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you, Mike, thank you so much. Wow. All right,
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Speaker 2: That was Mike.
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Speaker 3: out to the phones and welcome in. Is this touchdown?
Speaker 3: Tommy and Milford?
Speaker 16: What do you need to say?
Speaker 6: Their check there?
Speaker 16: It's like somebody you know.
Speaker 3: Yes it was.
Speaker 2: It was like, you know, it was like last week
Speaker 2: was bad? Can we top it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: We topped it this week again.
Speaker 5: Now it's gonna take up two weeks to make it better.
Speaker 16: Yes, it's pretty it's pretty hard to do, Okay. I
Speaker 16: think we're making it way too complicated. If you can't
Speaker 16: stop the run, you ain't gonna beat nobody. I mean,
Speaker 16: that's just the way it is. And I think the
Speaker 16: last Pro Bowl guy we had on defense was Atkins.
Speaker 16: So let's look at what's going on with with Tobin
Speaker 16: and what they've been drafting. I think part of the
Speaker 16: problem is they don't have the players on the field
Speaker 16: that can play this particular scheme. So whether you can
Speaker 16: change the scheme or you can't change the players quickly.
Speaker 16: But these guys ain't getting it. They're making the I
Speaker 16: mean even battle. On the last play, Hey, you know
Speaker 16: what they're trying to do. You're gonna go twenty yards
Speaker 16: try to get a field goal. He's playing thirty yards
Speaker 16: day he was trying to play against a touchdown. I
Speaker 16: thought what they were trying to play? What they're playing for?
Speaker 16: A freaking he caught that right in front? Well hell
Speaker 16: did decide to wrap up nothing tackling tackling iss have
Speaker 16: that mental idea. Let me tell you this crap wouldn't
Speaker 16: be going on in Pittsburgh. Them guys would be out
Speaker 16: of here. They don't put up with that nonsense. This
Speaker 16: defense is saw no tackling, arm tackled. Nobody tackles the leg.
Speaker 16: That guy's five foot seven to two oh five and
Speaker 16: everybody's trying to try to tackle him on his up
Speaker 16: by shoulder pad. Why didn't somebody game around his freaking legs? Stoppers?
Speaker 11: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: The two hundred and thirty third overall pick in the
Speaker 3: draft out of Rutgers, Oh my gosh, what are the
Speaker 3: running backs doing there?
Speaker 12: Uh?
Speaker 3: Pacheco a seventh rounder in This guy managay, He's unbelievable,
Speaker 3: twenty six carries one hundred and seventy six yards six
Speaker 3: point eight a pop long game of thirty nine and gush.
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift is uh is injured. This guy looks like
Speaker 3: Barry Sanders.
Speaker 16: Right, I mean, I don't know how bit I think.
Speaker 16: I think since they've got the smallest scouting department, which
Speaker 16: is part of the problem too. You can't constantly look
Speaker 16: at PFF and figure out who you need to be drafting.
Speaker 16: You've got to be close to these guys. You've got
Speaker 16: to know what they can do. You've got to know
Speaker 16: how they really are. I mean, are you look back
Speaker 16: at our drafting. Our drafting in the last ten years
Speaker 16: has been pathetic. Outside of Higgins, Chase and Burrow, the
Speaker 16: rest of them, I don't think I can name one
Speaker 16: that's made an impact. You've got Miles Murphy, You've got
Speaker 16: Jordan Battle, I can go Dack's Hill, I go for
Speaker 16: them all. There's not a Pro Bowl option in there
Speaker 16: at all. If I was starting his defense over, I'm
Speaker 16: not sure I'd be able to hold any of them.
Speaker 4: Agreed, I thought, yeah, And then then uh, you know
Speaker 4: there's new UH flyers go out mail looking to solicit
Speaker 4: new tickets for next year. Get prices has gone up,
Speaker 4: and you know, uh someone told me that they had
Speaker 4: called the uh the ticket's office about their the price
Speaker 4: of their tickets and they said, well, you guys want
Speaker 4: us to sign Jamar Chase and and Joe Burrow and
Speaker 4: t Higgins and uh and Hendricks. You know, where's the
Speaker 4: money coming from. We gotta we gotta raise the prices,
Speaker 4: you know. And and that's the bottom line, you do.
Speaker 4: But you know, at the same time, these guys that
Speaker 4: aren't those four or five guys are are making a
Speaker 4: lot of money.
Speaker 5: You know, they're not Type one.
Speaker 4: I was watching a replay on the board because where
Speaker 4: it was sitting, we had a good view of the
Speaker 4: board that the pile was moving, you know, they running
Speaker 4: back in the scrum and.
Speaker 5: He's moving and and Battle comes in.
Speaker 4: He has a chance to take the legs of the
Speaker 4: running back out and he like jumps into the pile
Speaker 4: like he's a you know, jumping to the ball pit
Speaker 4: at the boys r us instead of taking the legs out,
Speaker 4: knocking the whole pile down, and they got four or
Speaker 4: five more yards out of it.
Speaker 16: Yeah, he just kept frustrating.
Speaker 2: Kept moving forward. He just kept moving forward, didn't he.
Speaker 16: Oh but every since DJ Reider, you know, laugh, we've
Speaker 16: got nobody in the middle that can move the defense
Speaker 16: of an offensive line. I mean those offensive line guys
Speaker 16: for the last two weeks, I mean they're pushing us
Speaker 16: back four yards. There's nobody hitting these running backs for
Speaker 16: for a good six yards. You're right, they're gett hitting
Speaker 16: them backfield.
Speaker 4: They brought in a two guys in the last few
Speaker 4: years that were run stuffers where they came from, and uh,
Speaker 4: it's not helping they I mean they got the guy from.
Speaker 2: The Packers, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: And then they got the guy before that from the Patriots.
Speaker 4: Big was it? U?
Speaker 3: I think the Jags Jag Yeah, the Jags.
Speaker 5: And and uh it hasn't helped so.
Speaker 15: Well.
Speaker 16: I mean, I mean, and they weren't great players. I
Speaker 16: mean they were role players, you know at Green Bay.
Speaker 16: And I mean, guess what I mean, we can't be picky.
Speaker 16: But on the other hand, I don't think we're I
Speaker 16: don't think we're we're not getting more out of these players.
Speaker 16: I mean, it's one thing getting a player and be
Speaker 16: able to coach them up. There's none a coaching up.
Speaker 16: These guys are flatlined. You're getting negative.
Speaker 4: Yeah, getting coaches have to coach, you don't have to
Speaker 4: get more out of them. And if that's not happened,
Speaker 4: there's disconnect.
Speaker 5: I totally agree.
Speaker 16: I totally agree.
Speaker 14: We'll let you go.
Speaker 16: I know there's a bunch of others that need to
Speaker 16: be on the couch and talking about this with therapy,
Speaker 16: you know. But I appreciate you guys taking my call back.
Speaker 3: All right to exactly Steve guys, he loves his Virginia Cavaliers.
Speaker 5: How about that going on.
Speaker 16: Break the top ten. We're gonna be there.
Speaker 3: Oh man, awesome, Say hi to your son for us.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you, my friend. All right, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: We got to take a break. We'll come back to
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Try States.
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Speaker 3: at the Wings and Rings in Oakley and we're breaking
Speaker 3: down the bengals forty seven to forty two loss to
Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears today. Well, Bruce, let's review the delivery
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Speaker 3: How about the forty four yard touchdown reception by the
Speaker 3: incredible Chi Higgins.
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe that was from my perspective. I thought
Speaker 4: there's no way. And even if you listen to Flaco
Speaker 4: in the post game, he says he just threw that
Speaker 4: ball up there because he had man coverage and he's
Speaker 4: fully expected to be incomplete out of bounser or knocked down,
Speaker 4: And sure enough he came down with them catch you.
Speaker 4: We're right at the top of him. It was one
Speaker 4: of the greatest catches you'll see.
Speaker 3: It came just seventeen seconds after Cairo Santos's field goal,
Speaker 3: the Bears a seventeen to thirteen lead, and here Higgins
Speaker 3: is with a buck twelve to go before halftime, forty
Speaker 3: four yards.
Speaker 2: The coverage was like draped all over him.
Speaker 3: There was a flag on the play against the defense,
Speaker 3: and he went up and somehow caught that that football.
Speaker 2: It kept going.
Speaker 4: The second touchdown was just as good. The one he
Speaker 4: caught and rolled into the ends on that one side. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's the one that they got in. The judge on
Speaker 4: that side said it was down at the one yard mind,
Speaker 4: that's exactly right. It's crazy. Yeah, what a day for Tea.
Speaker 2: It really was.
Speaker 3: And nine targets, seven catches for one hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: one yards as seventeen point three yard average with that
Speaker 3: long game of forty four touchdown.
Speaker 4: Everybody that caught the ball today had huge plays, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, you don't throw the ball for four in
Speaker 4: the seven yards and have a lot of big plays.
Speaker 4: But you can't stop anybody. That's that's the problem. And
Speaker 4: what's enough? How you you got to score every time
Speaker 4: he had the ball. You feel like if you if
Speaker 4: you have to punt, you throw on the game away.
Speaker 3: Both teams only punted one time. Incredible, but once again,
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Speaker 2: Let's go back out to the phones. We've got Mike
Speaker 2: and Jerry Grove.
Speaker 14: Mike, Hey, no need to rehash all the Uh yeah,
Speaker 14: how you doing?
Speaker 18: Uh?
Speaker 16: No need to rehead most of what happened out there
Speaker 16: because it's a broken record.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 19: Couple things I saw that. I thought Orlando Brown was
Speaker 19: an All Pro. He got knocked on his butt by
Speaker 19: a guy that's.
Speaker 20: Smaller name on that stumble.
Speaker 5: Two guys there, you think you'd.
Speaker 19: Be pumped up you can't make the tackle.
Speaker 14: But real quick, a couple of things.
Speaker 10: You can tell me what you.
Speaker 19: Think the off side on the missfield goal. That guy's
Speaker 19: head was almost completely across the line. Don't can't they
Speaker 19: tell when they're lined up off side?
Speaker 14: They couldn't believe that?
Speaker 19: DJ Yes, another thing, I hope I don't hear any
Speaker 19: more talk about Burrow coming back because.
Speaker 14: There's no need for that.
Speaker 11: And I'm looking at.
Speaker 19: The schedule and you think it's bad, now, it's gonna
Speaker 19: get worse. The Steelers, they'll kill them. I think the
Speaker 19: pages in them. But then they got the Ravens, Bills Ravens,
Speaker 19: those guys are licking their chopped You you talk about yardage, now.
Speaker 16: Wait till they play those guys.
Speaker 19: I don't think they can win another game unless it's
Speaker 19: trash games at the end of the year. Maybe maybe
Speaker 19: the Cardinals, maybe the Browns.
Speaker 6: But good season's toast.
Speaker 19: There's not too much reason to talk about anymore unless
Speaker 19: you just like pain. Thanks a lot, man.
Speaker 2: Oh, we're Cincinnati fans.
Speaker 12: Man.
Speaker 2: We have endured our share.
Speaker 5: We are resilient. We are resilient.
Speaker 4: And you know, if you come down to the stadium
Speaker 4: to watch offense, you know, Joe Joe Flacko and the
Speaker 4: boys have given us offense. Yeah, I think it's a
Speaker 4: it's a great opportunity. Now the defense has improved. We
Speaker 4: can go through that over and over and over. Ornando
Speaker 4: Brown has had a tough, tough goal over lately and
Speaker 4: and he needs to play better. And and that was
Speaker 4: a frustration that like probably calls that fight. You know,
Speaker 4: he got bold rushed in the cause of fumble and uh,
Speaker 4: the next play got pressured. And you know, he's got
Speaker 4: a prize. He's a prideful guy. He's had a great history.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on with his technique or
Speaker 4: or what, but he's obviously working hard.
Speaker 5: But it's not painting out.
Speaker 2: Hey, do we have Tenny in Westchester.
Speaker 14: Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 5: So here's my point.
Speaker 21: I am waiting for Zach to be honest in his
Speaker 21: press conference after a game like this one and say
Speaker 21: the defense sucks.
Speaker 6: They are horrible. They can't tackle.
Speaker 21: I mean that last take it down to you know,
Speaker 21: I give all the credit to our special teams and
Speaker 21: the offense Joe Flacco.
Speaker 5: God blessed Joe Flacco.
Speaker 21: They got them in the position to win this game
Speaker 21: at the end of the end of the game. And
Speaker 21: what happened. They get down to the end of the
Speaker 21: game and they're that final pass play by the Bears
Speaker 21: and there had to be at least three Bengals around
Speaker 21: that dude, and none of them can tackle that guy.
Speaker 21: Are you kidding me? I mean the tackling on this
Speaker 21: team is terrible. It's terrible.
Speaker 4: Now, well, I think on the first thing about Zach,
Speaker 4: he can come out and say I mean, some coaches
Speaker 4: will come right out and say it publicly. Uh, He's
Speaker 4: he's a player's coach, and he's he's not going to
Speaker 4: dress people down in public. What he says behind the scenes,
Speaker 4: we don't know. And I think I think that's his
Speaker 4: way of handling this type of thing. But it's gonna
Speaker 4: come down on him, you know, that's the bottom line.
Speaker 4: It's gonna come down on the head coach and his
Speaker 4: assistance if something doesn't change quickly. And then as good
Speaker 4: as they are offensively and as good as an offense
Speaker 4: can play. Obviously, Joe Burrow is a big loss, but
Speaker 4: Flacco is outperforming all expectations. And where would this team
Speaker 4: be without Joe Flacco? These games wouldn't be close, you know,
Speaker 4: in terms of playing these opponents, the Steelers and the Ravens.
Speaker 4: Their defense hasn't been a whole lot better than ours.
Speaker 4: They've just got some good triggerment on the other Sideble.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's incredible, yeahs old.
Speaker 21: And he's playing this game on an injury, a painful injury,
Speaker 21: and what he threw for damn near five hundred yards offense?
Speaker 12: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 5: Yep? Yeah?
Speaker 4: And then and then, and that's that's part of the
Speaker 4: problem is is as good as he is throwing from
Speaker 4: the pocket, he's not a mobile guy. And so when
Speaker 4: you're a pass rusher, you're coming after the quarterback. You
Speaker 4: know where Joe's gonna be, you know, And and so
Speaker 4: that makes everybody's on the offensive line's job more difficult
Speaker 4: because you know where the guy is. He's gonna throw
Speaker 4: it quick. He's gonna get it to the open receiver
Speaker 4: if he has time, and they just there were times
Speaker 4: they didn't give him any time.
Speaker 21: He blew to this game. They lost this game. Everybody
Speaker 21: on the defense needs to pay Joe Flacco like one
Speaker 21: hundred grand out of their pay because the way he
Speaker 21: played this game and they lost this game for his effort.
Speaker 5: I'm going to.
Speaker 3: Slather repeat right and appreciate the call there, Thank you
Speaker 3: very much. And gosh, look at a Caleb Williams here.
Speaker 3: He was the elusive butterfly. Five rushes fifty three yards,
Speaker 3: that's ten point six yards six per Okay, he was
Speaker 3: twenty of thirty four throwing for two hundred and eighty yards.
Speaker 3: He was sacked twice, three touchdowns, including the long game
Speaker 3: on the final fifty eight yarder, and he caught two passes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's rare. That's a rare combination.
Speaker 3: Just incredible for twenty two yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 4: And watching and watching the game. Though he wasn't sitting
Speaker 4: in the pocket, the defense, the line got a lot
Speaker 4: of pressure. They forced him to scramble all over the place,
Speaker 4: but they never were able to get him on the
Speaker 4: ground or take away his vision from the downfield, and
Speaker 4: so as he scrambled around a lot more time and
Speaker 4: then you can't cover anybody for eight seconds. Actually in
Speaker 4: any league. Absolutely you got pressure that forced him to scramble,
Speaker 4: and that that's a no go. You got to keep
Speaker 4: him in the pocket. You get no pressure. He stands
Speaker 4: around there and looks. So something has to change in
Speaker 4: the scheme of things that we go after him more.
Speaker 4: You know, Hendrickson back, who knows. But in the next
Speaker 4: two weeks, they got two weeks to fix the problem.
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Speaker 3: Five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand, one eight hundred,
Speaker 3: the Big One.
Speaker 2: This is the place to vent.
Speaker 3: And Bruce and I are talking off the air about
Speaker 3: all the different disastrous games. The Bengals lost to the
Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine ers trying to run out the cruise,
Speaker 3: and that Eric Thomas gets lit up by Jerry Rice.
Speaker 3: And then we launched Brett Farve's career in Green Bay. Gosh,
Speaker 3: Carl Pickens runs back a punt for a touchdown his
Speaker 3: rookie year. They knocked on Mkowski out of the game,
Speaker 3: and on comes this second year dude who got traded
Speaker 3: from Atlanta in the offseason, Brett Favre, and he throws
Speaker 3: the touchdown pass to Kitch Taylor in the final minute.
Speaker 5: I've been there, I've been there, done that.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then the Kansas City game, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: It just you're crazy. Denver in Cincinnati, Denver and Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Leon Hall bats the ball but he goes up in
Speaker 3: the air and the Denver receiver grabs it right after
Speaker 3: Cedric Benson scored a touchdown, and the dude goes like
Speaker 3: with nobody else left, nobody, nobody's there, tips it up
Speaker 3: seventy yards seventy yards and he kind of walks along
Speaker 3: the one yard line to burn some more clock and
Speaker 3: then steps into the end zone and just like that,
Speaker 3: you're shocked. So the Bengals masters of disasters today was
Speaker 3: another one.
Speaker 2: How can you give up forty seven points?
Speaker 4: Well, just come to Cincinnati. It's it's it's it's really,
Speaker 4: it's really a shame. I don't doubt these guys are
Speaker 4: giving it what they got, but they're what they got
Speaker 4: is not good enough. They're not tackling well enough. And
Speaker 4: again it's not just a recent issue. It's been the
Speaker 4: whole progressive season, and we just it sticks out now
Speaker 4: that you're scoring so many points, to score eighty points
Speaker 4: in two weeks and still still lose both games.
Speaker 3: And my partner here, Bruce Kazerski, he talked about it
Speaker 3: when he first came into the store tonight that the
Speaker 3: Bengals had a defensive meeting, so you knew they were
Speaker 3: gonna come out and showed great energy. They're running around,
Speaker 3: they're flying around, and what does Caleb Williams do? He
Speaker 3: takes advantage of their aggressiveness. They are running the Bengals
Speaker 3: every which way but loose double pass throw back. Oh,
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams catches a touchdown?
Speaker 5: Will he catches two passes today?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's playing too.
Speaker 5: They took advantage of our meeting.
Speaker 3: Yes, took advantage of yes, yes.
Speaker 5: You gotta.
Speaker 4: They came out flying and the defense was flying. They
Speaker 4: were gonna make plays at all the best intentions, and
Speaker 4: then they took advantage of us slowed us down. And
Speaker 4: then you see the same over again. Once they slowed
Speaker 4: us down. You see the same thing over and over
Speaker 4: and over.
Speaker 3: Well, let's highlight the drive of the game. Bruce, brought
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Speaker 3: and fifty BMW centers in the United States, but there's
Speaker 3: only one store, the BMW Store where Passion loves Company. Well,
Speaker 3: how about right after the on sidekick recovery, the Bengals
Speaker 3: drive six plays fifty seven yards. It only took forty
Speaker 3: nine seconds and Joe Flacco, whoop, not your touchdown? Passed
Speaker 3: to Andre Joseavash and then the extra point by Evan McPherson,
Speaker 3: giving the Bengals a forty two to forty one lead
Speaker 3: with fifty four.
Speaker 2: Seconds to go.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a miracle win, No, and then it wasn't.
Speaker 5: That's what I said at that point.
Speaker 4: If they'd only been down by two points, they will
Speaker 4: have taken all that time off the clock and sell
Speaker 4: it for a field goal to win the game. But
Speaker 4: you can't do that when you're down a touchdown. You
Speaker 4: gotta score when you can. Big play, big play, what
Speaker 4: little plays, big play, whatever it is. And we left
Speaker 4: fifty seven seconds or so on o'clock and that was
Speaker 4: too many.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
Speaker 10: And uh.
Speaker 3: Colston Loveland from the University of Michigan, a rookie, he
Speaker 3: has a career day, and it happens against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3: We're becoming like everyone's home coming. That's what it's starting
Speaker 3: to feel like.
Speaker 5: I'm looking up Cole Comett. He had a field day
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 3: Colston Loveland seven targets, six catches, one hundred and eighteen
Speaker 3: yards nineteen point seven per two touchdowns, including the long
Speaker 3: of fifty eight yards, and once again, Bruce Kazerski.
Speaker 2: The Bengals get burned and murdered by a tight end.
Speaker 4: Awful Cole Commet he had an It only said one here.
Speaker 4: I thought he had several big ones. It was the
Speaker 4: other guy. Yeah, yeah, Colston love one and just yet brutal.
Speaker 4: You know you're taking away from receivers. I get it,
Speaker 4: but that tight end is another in this league, tight
Speaker 4: ends are great receivers and you got to find a
Speaker 4: way to handle that. They're bigger fellas, so maybe they
Speaker 4: don't want to hit him. I don't know, but but
Speaker 4: this this is just not going to get we get
Speaker 4: it done, and it's is it more and more discipin
Speaker 4: this morning every week and the fans leave more and
Speaker 4: more frustrated every week, and you know, it's just it's
Speaker 4: just not good for business.
Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones.
Speaker 3: Is Aaron from Greenville still with us?
Speaker 22: Hi, guys, it's good to good to talk with you tonight.
Speaker 22: Always good to be on with chicken, Bruce. I want
Speaker 22: to start with one thing. First off, we need to
Speaker 22: get Jim breaching in the Ring of Honor. He's a
Speaker 22: he's one of the brigals, legends. Always always good to
Speaker 22: hear him when he's on the postgame show. But the
Speaker 22: unfortunate part about the last two weeks is this what
Speaker 22: we've signed up for. You know, We've we've invested a
Speaker 22: ton of our cap space into offense and have no
Speaker 22: cap space to put into any defensive players. And we're
Speaker 22: playing a bunch of young guys. I mean today, I'm
Speaker 22: I'm at the game today as a season ticket holder,
Speaker 22: and we're looking up on the Bengals roster some of
Speaker 22: the defensive guys that are on the field. So our
Speaker 22: inability to tackle is a direct reflection of our inability
Speaker 22: to pay defensive players.
Speaker 4: Completely agree, There's there's a lot of money and invested
Speaker 4: in a handful of guys, and uh, I mean, these
Speaker 4: other guys aren't making chump change. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4: Uh they were. They were drafted to play defense in
Speaker 4: the NFL, and that means they must be pretty good
Speaker 4: and they're just not tackling right now.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter whether minim.
Speaker 22: Yeah, I agree with that completely, But when when when
Speaker 22: you've got you when you have the opportunity to buy
Speaker 22: a paid you know, a proven commodity that you've seen
Speaker 22: prove themselves in the NFL, versus that risk of the draft.
Speaker 22: You know, the draft is always a risk when you're
Speaker 22: when when you're drafting guys, you never really know if
Speaker 22: they're going to be a quality NFL player. And you
Speaker 22: know what, let's go to Logan Wilson for for for
Speaker 22: three years, he's as good as a linebacker as we've got,
Speaker 22: and here recently he can't tackle, you know, and he's
Speaker 22: he's one of the guys we've invested money in. Orlando
Speaker 22: Brown today was it was embarrassing to watch some of
Speaker 22: those defensive those defensive ends push him around. I mean,
Speaker 22: that's that's that guy was supposed to be an answer
Speaker 22: we've got. We've got sixteen million dollars invested in in
Speaker 22: a in a left tackle that gets thrown around like
Speaker 22: a rag doll. He's getting used as a weapon, he's
Speaker 22: getting thrown on our quarterback. At what point? At what
Speaker 22: point do we start talking about we've invested too much
Speaker 22: money in an offense that scores a bunch of points.
Speaker 22: It's fun to look at It's like buying a Ferrari
Speaker 22: but not really looking under the hood to see if
Speaker 22: it's got any of the part that are going to
Speaker 22: win win the game and and our defensively, we we
Speaker 22: scored eighty points in two weeks, and we were walking
Speaker 22: away of that stadium disappointed both weeks because we can't
Speaker 22: stop anybody. Jamar Chase said it in the locker or
Speaker 22: in the hallway walking out today. One Efen he actually
Speaker 22: said the word, but one Efen stopped. We didn't get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, our offense is a ferrari. Our defense is a galope.
Speaker 5: It's that that.
Speaker 22: Galope, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4: You know, that was that was important to negotiate a
Speaker 4: part of it. Everybody's everybody's wanting Jamar and t and
Speaker 4: and Joe and and uh, all these guys under big
Speaker 4: buck contracts. They wanted to stay in town. And that's
Speaker 4: just the way the league is structured anymore, you know.
Speaker 4: But but you know, you got to find some money
Speaker 4: for the defensive side of the ball. The revenue sharing
Speaker 4: eye and I don't know what the what the salary
Speaker 4: cap is and how it's going to affect us the
Speaker 4: rest of the way. But like you said, Orlando Brown's
Speaker 4: having a bad couple of weeks here, if not more,
Speaker 4: and something's got to change. He's a guy that was
Speaker 4: brought in here to solve problems. And uh right now
Speaker 4: that that's that's a lot of the that's the best
Speaker 4: pass rushers on that side.
Speaker 5: He was here and here's brought here to solve.
Speaker 2: It and Aaron, we got to run. Appreciate the call.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, appreciated, Thank you. Thank You're listening
Speaker 3: to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented
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Speaker 3: Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. This is Jick Ludwig.
Speaker 3: I'm alongside my good friend and Bengals legend Bruce Kozerski,
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Speaker 3: on Factory Colony Lane. We're here till eight thirty tonight,
Speaker 3: and this is the place to vent taking your calls.
Speaker 3: Let's go out to the phones. We got is this.
Speaker 2: Bill and Dayton?
Speaker 20: Yeah, that's me, thanks guys. All right, Bill, Bill's a
Speaker 20: burn building on an earlier caller, how about we and
Speaker 20: the defense from posing and flexing and performing on plays
Speaker 20: five thousand dollars per occurrence until after their next win.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Don't you love it when a guy makes a play
Speaker 3: and they pose and then they get burned on the
Speaker 3: next play. Yeah, it's the game.
Speaker 20: Yeah, show some colass and play the game. Yeah, that's
Speaker 20: all I got to think.
Speaker 3: Right, all right, appreciate it. Jeff is in Dayton, the
Speaker 3: Jem City. Hi, Jeff, Okay, we've got Brooks in Southern Illinois.
Speaker 2: Brooks, what's going on?
Speaker 10: Hey, thanks thanking my call.
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, family, I've had a long time with her.
Speaker 14: And my falls when I was in high school on
Speaker 14: forts Pump Trump.
Speaker 7: Love.
Speaker 2: Hey, Brooks, you're up.
Speaker 3: You're fading in and out, but you're exactly right. Bob
Speaker 3: Trumpy the Godfather, Okay. I got to interview him several
Speaker 3: times over the years. Loved him, absolutely loved him, and
Speaker 3: he had an edge to him, but man, the kindest heart,
Speaker 3: he really did. And he told just the greatest story
Speaker 3: about training camp. How Paul Brown had air conditioning in
Speaker 3: his room and Bob was able to secure what he
Speaker 3: called an air cooler and he was busted, but he
Speaker 3: was able to say, it's not an air conditioner, it's
Speaker 3: a air cooler that he got out of an addict
Speaker 3: from a woman's house that he knew, and just just
Speaker 3: awesome stuff. And he was a tight end, but a
Speaker 3: wide receiver. The dude could flank out. He had unbelievable
Speaker 3: speed and just a tremendous all around player. And yeah,
Speaker 3: early on in his career, I mean, Paul Is bringing
Speaker 3: players in left and right, flying them in, uh, working
Speaker 3: them out in Wilmington, giving him a bus ticket back
Speaker 3: to the airport. And man, the odds of Bob Trump
Speaker 3: he making it were minimal, and man, he convinced them.
Speaker 3: And then as a broadcaster, gosh, nobody better, nobody better.
Speaker 2: He's in the he's an enshrined in Canton.
Speaker 3: The Pro Football Hall of Fame as a broadcaster for
Speaker 3: the NFL.
Speaker 2: And just what a voice and what knowledge.
Speaker 23: Absolutely can you hear me any better?
Speaker 5: Now? Yes?
Speaker 23: Yes, okay, I've got a follow up question though about
Speaker 23: the current day Bengals.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 23: I like Bruce's analysis. So obviously the defense is our
Speaker 23: major problem. As we all know, I can't tackle, we
Speaker 23: can't get after the passer much. I can't get off
Speaker 23: the field on third down. You know everything, but there's
Speaker 23: one thing at the top of the list that the
Speaker 23: Steelers used against us, that the Jets used against this,
Speaker 23: that this game today was used against this, and that
Speaker 23: is simply defending the off tackle run to the right side,
Speaker 23: especially either the B gap or the C gap, either one.
Speaker 23: If they ran at one hundred times, they're going to
Speaker 23: get positive yards ninety nine times out of one hundred,
Speaker 23: and most of the time it's ten yards. So can
Speaker 23: you explain to us, Bruce, what is going on why
Speaker 23: we cannot defend that play?
Speaker 4: I had I had a very similar first thought when
Speaker 4: I when I was sitting out there watching the game today.
Speaker 4: They seem to be running so much to the offensive
Speaker 4: right side to our defensive left side.
Speaker 5: And you know, when you game plan.
Speaker 4: You scheme things up, you you kind of have your
Speaker 4: favorite places to run. You not only is it your
Speaker 4: matchups because of who you have playing on your right side,
Speaker 4: but it's also maybe the defense of who they have
Speaker 4: playing on their left side. And it might be that
Speaker 4: you really favor the matchup the last few weeks or
Speaker 4: the last three weeks, and you're seeing the same kind
Speaker 4: of result every every week, week in and week out.
Speaker 5: Today that that.
Speaker 4: First year player average seven yards of carried almost on
Speaker 4: the same type of same type of play.
Speaker 5: And again, yeah, you know what's coming.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting up there in the first row of the club.
Speaker 4: If they're thinking here it comes again, they gotta know
Speaker 4: what's coming.
Speaker 11: Seven.
Speaker 14: One other follow up, one other follow up.
Speaker 23: There to that last week after the Jets game, you
Speaker 23: mentioned that they would come out and be overloaded, uh,
Speaker 23: to one side, and it looked like we didn't adjust
Speaker 23: to that.
Speaker 4: They overloaded their formation, they brought another offensive lineman or
Speaker 4: they put two extra tight ends on that side, and
Speaker 4: we didn't adjust.
Speaker 23: Did they do that again today and not adjust?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 23: Well then, I mean this is not this is like
Speaker 23: football one on one. I mean, what's the problem there
Speaker 23: On the defensive coaching side.
Speaker 4: Well, you I guess they played on filling those holes
Speaker 4: with the linebackers and safeties.
Speaker 5: I mean we look at all that.
Speaker 4: No, it's not the safety. The safety led the team
Speaker 4: in tackles.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: But all the dbs hit all the tackles and that
Speaker 3: tells you right there they were busted through the line, and.
Speaker 5: Uh, they're in the second level before you can blink.
Speaker 23: That's right the second and they're getting blown off the
Speaker 23: line of scrimmage too. It seems like our defensive tackles
Speaker 23: aren't really helping us much. I don't think crazy, I
Speaker 23: don't know, Brooks.
Speaker 3: We got to run. We've reached the bottom of the
Speaker 3: hour break. Thank you so much. Hey, you're to the
Speaker 3: Tri State Chevy Dealers post game Sports Talk presented by
Speaker 3: RNL Carriers. He's Bruce Kazerski. This is Chick Ludwig. We're
Speaker 3: live in Wings and Rings in Oakley until eight thirty
Speaker 3: tonight on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports
Speaker 3: Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We're live at the Wings
Speaker 3: and Rings in Oakley Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski, and
Speaker 3: we're talking Bengals football. They fall today forty seven to
Speaker 3: forty two to the Chicago Bears, so close to a
Speaker 3: miracle win to come back from fourteen down, outscoring Chicago
Speaker 3: fifteen zero in a matter of forty nine seconds, but
Speaker 3: they left enough time fifty four seconds left and Colston
Speaker 3: Loveland hauls in a fifty eight yard pass from Caleb
Speaker 3: Williams and two guys right there they bounce off of him.
Speaker 4: They need that block tackle. Instead of wrapping them up,
Speaker 4: they just block. You know, you give him to make him,
Speaker 4: make him make a field goal from there for crying out.
Speaker 2: Uh, absolutely, it just it hurts.
Speaker 3: And I finally got to see the final play because
Speaker 3: heck we're driving, you know, I'm driving to get here
Speaker 3: to Oakley and listening at the at the very end.
Speaker 3: So hey, do we have John in Cedarville still with us?
Speaker 14: Hello?
Speaker 19: Yeah, John, Yeah, John, go ahead, we'll be recorded good evening.
Speaker 11: Uh, rooms and get.
Speaker 5: Good evening, can you hear me? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes? What's on your mind?
Speaker 11: Hey listen? I just want to start off again another week,
Speaker 11: h Boker can't run without his feet and and then
Speaker 11: again you start off the game with a with with
Speaker 11: a run back. You're up seven nothing top the press
Speaker 11: out board is your defense? You know, seven nothing's enough
Speaker 11: to win the ball game. Oh you got to just
Speaker 11: go out and play defense, rest away and maybe shut
Speaker 11: him out. Then you go home with a victory.
Speaker 5: Yeah later yeah, yes, yeah, and.
Speaker 11: Then you got you got you got Flacoh he may
Speaker 11: just see the NFL Comeback Player of the Year this
Speaker 11: this season, and he's being overshadowed by a bad defense.
Speaker 11: I mean, come on, some guy's got to pick it
Speaker 11: up if it I mean here and you look at
Speaker 11: the rest of the schedule. I mean, you're either gonna
Speaker 11: lay them either they're gonna lay you out. But there's
Speaker 11: nothing intimidating left on that dag on schedule the rest
Speaker 11: of the season.
Speaker 3: Hey, the Baltimore Ravens are getting healthy, John. The Baltimore
Speaker 3: Ravens now have Lamar Jackson back, so they're going to
Speaker 3: be difficult.
Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers are waiting.
Speaker 3: They're waiting for the Bengals in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: And John, Hey, appreciate the call. You call us every week.
Speaker 3: We thank you. We've got to move on. Appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Austin Bob Trumpy real quick.
Speaker 11: I just want to say prayers to his family and
Speaker 11: and thank you Bob Trumpy for taking my first call
Speaker 11: to WLW Sports Talks mat before Chris Collins took over.
Speaker 3: Absolutely appreciate that. Thank you very much. Hey, We've got
Speaker 3: Mike in La. Mike, welcome back to seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: Man. We love you.
Speaker 14: Well, you Chip don Donah Scottie May reincarnated.
Speaker 3: I see La, and all I can think of is
Speaker 3: the Dodgers beating Toronto.
Speaker 13: Oh.
Speaker 14: I didn't want to lead off with it, but man,
Speaker 14: I'm still in seventh freaking heaven. Brother, that's the best
Speaker 14: world series. That's the best world series we've had in
Speaker 14: many years.
Speaker 2: And what were you thinking?
Speaker 3: What were you thinking when pa Has basically slams into
Speaker 3: t k Hernandez It makes that catch.
Speaker 14: Unbelievable because Kek can always get it done, but pa
Speaker 14: Has is a gold glover. No, I was freaking out.
Speaker 14: I was most my pants.
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, Well, I didn't see who
Speaker 3: was named the MVP, but in my mind Yoshi Yama Moto.
Speaker 3: That dude was a absolute beast.
Speaker 14: That was the MVP, and well, well well deserved. But
Speaker 14: if it wasn't for our starting pitchers, we'd have never
Speaker 14: won that damn thing. So thank God for those fellows
Speaker 14: because we sure as hell couldn't hit. But I'm glad
Speaker 14: you brought it up because I still have a smile
Speaker 14: on my face. But it's somewhat diminish with the passing
Speaker 14: a Trump. You know, people don't realize this guy was
Speaker 14: a tremendous golf analyst on NBC for years.
Speaker 16: Oh and thank the football, football football.
Speaker 14: But like like he was saying earlier, Trump, Trump was
Speaker 14: very intelligent man, very intelligent man.
Speaker 3: And wepics for crying out loud. The guy was so
Speaker 3: versatile for for NBC.
Speaker 2: It was amazing.
Speaker 5: I did his homework. He was always prepared.
Speaker 14: Yes, yes, was he was around before you, right cause.
Speaker 4: Yes he was. He was doing radio in Cincinnati when
Speaker 4: I got here.
Speaker 14: Okay, well, yeah, I just want prayers out to his family.
Speaker 14: God love them. But I'm looking at the rest of
Speaker 14: this Bengal schedule, Fellas Heelers on the road after the
Speaker 14: buy Patriots at home, Ravens on the road, Bills on
Speaker 14: the road, Ravens at home, Dolphins there. You might win
Speaker 14: that one. Cards. I don't know if they can beat
Speaker 14: Arizona and then the Browns, who knows. I don't see
Speaker 14: many more wins, guys. I'm just sorry.
Speaker 3: I don't I agree with you, and I think the
Speaker 3: line went to six and a half, you know, over
Speaker 3: under six and a half. I'm not picking them to
Speaker 3: win seven games, not the way they're playing now.
Speaker 4: No, Well, it's the NFL, everybody, everybody on any given
Speaker 4: Sunday can win, and we've proven that we have the
Speaker 4: ability to lose, and even when we score forty two points,
Speaker 4: which should not happen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's happened twice.
Speaker 14: Because with your Harold background and the great offensive lines
Speaker 14: you played with, how and then I know you got
Speaker 14: to go. How do you explain how things have kind
Speaker 14: of diminished with our drafting capabilities, our development capabilities. Do
Speaker 14: you have any insight into that?
Speaker 4: Cause, well, my offensive line, Anthony Munos was the only
Speaker 4: first round pick on it. We had two six to
Speaker 4: seven and I was a nine across the board. They
Speaker 4: don't even have they don't have that many many rounds anymore.
Speaker 4: But the coaches, it was a coaching They brought us
Speaker 4: along and made us players and made us play together.
Speaker 4: And we were healthy enough, fortunate enough to stay healthy
Speaker 4: for the entire period of time. And you know, these
Speaker 4: guys are transient because of the free agency markets and everything.
Speaker 4: They move in and out and it's hard to get
Speaker 4: that cohesiveness. And we seem to be playing much much
Speaker 4: better as an offensive line. But right now, defensively, you know,
Speaker 4: we couldn't tackle our way. You know, out of the box.
Speaker 18: Right now.
Speaker 5: Was the best, the best. Jim was the best line
Speaker 5: coach in this football absolutely.
Speaker 14: I mean I'm I'm a native Cincinnati.
Speaker 10: And born and raced and proud of it.
Speaker 14: But I've been in California for a long long time
Speaker 14: after Vietnam. But how do you Oh gosh, I always
Speaker 14: do this. I've lost my train of thought. I'm sorry, guys,
Speaker 14: thanks for the time. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: I appreciate appreciate it. Mike, Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: You just well, Scott Peters was doing doing a heck
Speaker 4: of a job because these guys. When the season started,
Speaker 4: it was a nightmare. You watched Joe Burrow run for
Speaker 4: his life until he finally got hurt.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: And then the first week that Flacca was in here,
Speaker 4: it wasn't a whole lot better. But all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: now we're running the ball, we're able to pass protect
Speaker 4: most of the time, and sometimes we've got to get
Speaker 4: some help. I don't know what happened with Orlando today
Speaker 4: because he didn't do that last week or the week
Speaker 4: before early in the season. Yes, it could be the matchup,
Speaker 4: could be that that player happened to have his number
Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but I know it has been better,
Speaker 4: and I we give a lot of respect to Scott
Speaker 4: Peters from his ability to get that out of those guys.
Speaker 4: Something has to happen on the other side of the ball.
Speaker 4: Though it's not the offensive uh collapse in the last
Speaker 4: few weeks. It's the defensive collapse. And you know that
Speaker 4: somehow the coach has got to get more out of them,
Speaker 4: and and and and scheme and whether it's schematic ley
Speaker 4: or or what, because there there's not not ugh not
Speaker 4: not enough success on that side of the ball.
Speaker 2: I can back to.
Speaker 3: One p one punt, one punt. I could just hear
Speaker 3: former defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer. You know, four guys and
Speaker 3: then the linebackers fill.
Speaker 2: The gas and.
Speaker 5: They're gaping holes.
Speaker 2: You saw what Manangae did today.
Speaker 4: They're running the stretch plays just so everybody knows they're
Speaker 4: running a stretch play, so they're they're getting a lot
Speaker 4: of lateral movement, and all they gotta do is get
Speaker 4: one guy out of his own one guy not clean
Speaker 4: in his in the proper hole, and there's a there's
Speaker 4: a hole there for the running back to get through.
Speaker 4: And then these guys are so powerful, it's difficult to
Speaker 4: make arm tackles.
Speaker 5: You gotta let what to them.
Speaker 4: You gotta shoulder pads and helmet down on there and
Speaker 4: get and get physical. And and I think sometimes we're reaching,
Speaker 4: especially on it's a safety coming down or a cornerback
Speaker 4: having to come up. I watched them run a jet
Speaker 4: sweep today, and you can see the motion coming. The
Speaker 4: defensive end on the other side of the ball is
Speaker 4: standing up. He has to see it coming. And yet
Speaker 4: he did not widen a split second, not a foot.
Speaker 4: You know, you're seeing the ball coming at you, you know,
Speaker 4: you don't widen the foot, and before you know what,
Speaker 4: the ball's around you, like you're surprised.
Speaker 3: Just crazy. You're right and off to the races. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's what this was today. It was back and forth,
Speaker 3: nine lead changes, over one thousand yards of total offense.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking the team that has the ball last is
Speaker 3: gonna win. And less than a minute to go, I
Speaker 3: tell you, the ball that bears.
Speaker 4: The Bears are going home wondering what the heck happened
Speaker 4: to their defense too, Yes, you know, and and and
Speaker 4: they're trying to figure out solve some problems because they're
Speaker 4: not gonna win a lot of games playing like they did. Uh, defensively,
Speaker 4: but you outscore somebody, you score forty seven points. I
Speaker 4: guess that's the number. It's not thirty nine, thirty eight,
Speaker 4: it's forty seven, that's right.
Speaker 3: And they were celebrating with a fourteen point lead and
Speaker 3: the ball and with like five and a half.
Speaker 2: Minutes to go, and it was a little too early.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it really was.
Speaker 3: All right, Hey, we've got to take another break. You're
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Speaker 3: Kazerski talking Bengals football. They fall forty seven to forty
Speaker 3: two to the Chicago Bears after last week's thirty nine
Speaker 3: to thirty eight loss at home to the Jets.
Speaker 2: You just cannot lose home games like this, Bruce.
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Speaker 2: Well after Noah Fant catches.
Speaker 3: A twenty three yard pass from Joe Flacco, pulling the Bengals,
Speaker 3: and the two point conversion to t Higgins pulling the
Speaker 3: Bengals within forty one to thirty five with a minute
Speaker 3: forty three to go. It came down to definitely kneading
Speaker 3: the on side kick conversion.
Speaker 2: And the Bengals got it.
Speaker 5: They got it.
Speaker 3: The ball did not go ten yards, but it hit
Speaker 3: the ankle in the foot of a Chicago Bear and
Speaker 3: the Bengals jumped on it. What a pile I mean,
Speaker 3: it was about eight feet high with bodies unscramble it.
Speaker 2: The Bengals are on it, and they took advantage.
Speaker 3: That was their window of opportunity right there, and Joe
Speaker 3: Flacco his fourth touchdown pass of the day, a nine
Speaker 3: yarder to Andre Josevash with fifty four seconds to go.
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Speaker 4: I left the stadium last week with ten and a
Speaker 4: half minutes up by fourteen.
Speaker 5: We lost.
Speaker 4: By the time I got to the car, I left
Speaker 4: with five minutes and we were down by that many points.
Speaker 4: I get to the parking lot and you can just
Speaker 4: barely see the jumbo drawing whatever's left. The crowd in
Speaker 4: the stadium roars. We scored a touchdown, make it six points, right,
Speaker 4: we on side kicked. They're going nuts again. Then we
Speaker 4: scored another touchdowns. I missed the entire game, I ship,
Speaker 4: you know, in the last five minutes. I missed the
Speaker 4: entire football game. And you know, we just saw those
Speaker 4: plays about the big screen here and it's like anytime
Speaker 4: the last play, the tight end down the middle, two
Speaker 4: guys our two safeties at the same time that are rapping,
Speaker 4: they just hit him.
Speaker 5: Now maybe he catches it.
Speaker 4: They they tackle him right there and they kick a
Speaker 4: field goal to win the game. You know what, That's
Speaker 4: a better way to go out than what happened.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's amazing that you uh that were talking about this,
Speaker 3: because when I was on the beat, they would you know,
Speaker 3: open up the uh you know, they would make an
Speaker 3: announcement in the press box, the elevator, you like, with
Speaker 3: five minutes to go, elevator, you get trapped in that elevator.
Speaker 2: You miss the final two three, four.
Speaker 3: Minutes of the game when it's decided, and I and
Speaker 3: I quit going down early.
Speaker 2: Because you miss so much.
Speaker 3: And I said, I'll wait until I know that the
Speaker 3: game is going to end, you know, And they send
Speaker 3: the elevator back up, and that's when we could get
Speaker 3: on the field the final couple minutes of a game.
Speaker 2: And uh, really.
Speaker 3: Before or they stand in the tunnel, sure, yeah, before
Speaker 3: nine to eleven. Really, yeah, you know, and then nobody
Speaker 3: was allowed you know, the field, so and you know
Speaker 3: this to Bruce. The final quarter of a game and
Speaker 3: near the end of the game, the speed of the
Speaker 3: game just heightens.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it seems to last forever. Yes, yeah, it seems.
Speaker 2: At last five minutes, it felt like an hour.
Speaker 5: An hour.
Speaker 2: It was brutal, brutal. It just was incredible.
Speaker 3: But the speed of the game is, uh, it was
Speaker 3: shock fans to be up that close seeing how fast
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 4: All for weeks, my son picked me up the same spot.
Speaker 4: We're standing on the corner waiting for him to come
Speaker 4: on and pick us up. Last week, you're saying you're
Speaker 4: not gonna believe it, You're not gonna believe it. You're
Speaker 4: not gonna believe it this week, calls him, You're not
Speaker 4: gonna believe this one. We came back, we got onside kick,
Speaker 4: we scored another touchdown.
Speaker 5: We're leading.
Speaker 2: My guys, yeah, my guys. Crazy. Hey.
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Speaker 3: We've got Don in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Don Are you there?
Speaker 6: Am on?
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, Don, Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I from Nasville. But
Speaker 10: you said Cincinnatille. But okay, yeah, I just want to
Speaker 10: say thanks, became a call here. But I really am
Speaker 10: really concerned about what's going on with the Bengals right
Speaker 10: now when it comes to the defense. I don't think
Speaker 10: this is an easy stake. I really don't. I think
Speaker 10: we really need to. We look at, you know, far
Speaker 10: the schemes and and players we got playing this particular
Speaker 10: scheme that got going on right now, if you look
Speaker 10: at it, I look at Battle. I don't know what's
Speaker 10: going on with him, the stuff he's doing right now.
Speaker 10: There is no way he would did that if he
Speaker 10: was playing for Nick sayeah, absolutely he was. He wouldn't
Speaker 10: be plan you know, Nick Date were having him out
Speaker 10: so quick that he wouldn't even know he was on
Speaker 10: the team. And my point is, while we are setting
Speaker 10: players playing like this, you know if they're gonna play,
Speaker 10: because it's like people have to make a business decisions.
Speaker 10: You know what business decisions mean. That means they're trying
Speaker 10: not to get hurt.
Speaker 5: They don't.
Speaker 10: They're not trying to play at all effort. That's just sounding.
Speaker 10: They make business on defense because.
Speaker 5: They ain't trying to.
Speaker 10: No, no, no, They enjoying one telling and and and again.
Speaker 10: You know, when I look at the offense, I don't know
Speaker 10: why people call him bout the offense. I don't know
Speaker 10: what else you Canna has on offense. I just don't
Speaker 10: office is playing. I mean, seriously, Joe Fla are the
Speaker 10: kids that dude is amazing right now and.
Speaker 5: And we are.
Speaker 10: And we are making him look like I'm Please, don't
Speaker 10: blame Joe back. Don't blame Joe back. If we can't
Speaker 10: get the defense six, it makes no sense get hurt again.
Speaker 5: Ye score fifty two points to win.
Speaker 3: Hey, John, We've got to run appreciate you venting. Thanks
Speaker 3: thanks so much. Where does this team and we'll get
Speaker 3: to Matt. We've got Matt, We've got Ron, We've got
Speaker 3: Chad and others. We will get to you after the
Speaker 3: top of the hour break. But but Bruce Kazerski, where
Speaker 3: does this team go from here?
Speaker 5: I can tell you they're not.
Speaker 4: They can't make wholesale changes because they are what they
Speaker 4: are at this point. At this point, the concrete has
Speaker 4: been laid. All they can do is continue to work schematically,
Speaker 4: maybe fix some weaknesses with the scheme. If there is
Speaker 4: a if there is a way. If there's not, then
Speaker 4: you're just gonna have to outscore people. And and this
Speaker 4: is this is the league that will exploit every weakness
Speaker 4: you have. They see you on film as much as
Speaker 4: you see yourself on film, and they're going to study
Speaker 4: the Bengals defense. They're going to tear it apart week
Speaker 4: in and week out. Unless we fix or change some things,
Speaker 4: you can't be You can't make too many personnel changes.
Speaker 4: There's no there's no great bank of all Americans are
Speaker 4: gonna come in here and make them better overnight.
Speaker 3: No, they're relying on young players and they're giving them
Speaker 3: experience and they're getting lit up.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, we talked about this a little bit
Speaker 4: off the air, little Wago, Chick. Young players are gonna
Speaker 4: make mistakes. You're gonna have blown coverages here and there.
Speaker 4: But young players tackle too, just like the last caller
Speaker 4: was talking about not being able to get away with
Speaker 4: that kind of tackling for for Alabama. He's right, one
Speaker 4: hundred percent correct. You know, these guys are drafted because
Speaker 4: they were good tacklers, because they were great football player
Speaker 4: and it's just not coming out right now, and somehow
Speaker 4: that's got to change. They gonna look, they gonna look
Speaker 4: a they gonna look at themselves in the mirror and say,
Speaker 4: I gotta fix my problem before we fix our problem.
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Speaker 3: He's Bruce Kazerski, this is Chick Ludwig. We're breaking down
Speaker 3: the Bengals forty seven of the forty two loss to
Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears today like a wrecking ball. A lot
Speaker 3: of Chicago Bears fans in here tonight. Man, They're going
Speaker 3: crazy and I'm going around congratulating them, and the Bengals
Speaker 3: are making a star is born in Caleb Williams, it
Speaker 3: is the Bengals fall.
Speaker 4: Well that somebody has to play the Bengals, that's exactly
Speaker 4: we might as well, you know, promote the league.
Speaker 2: That's that's exactly right.
Speaker 3: Oh man, he did look like, hey, he's the first
Speaker 3: overall pick.
Speaker 2: He looked like he was playing for Uscaha.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the best game of his career.
Speaker 2: Man, fantastic.
Speaker 5: I've seen that a lot in Cincinnati. I've seen that.
Speaker 4: You know, I was there with Brett Fahr took his
Speaker 4: Like you said, we talked about this a little bit earlier.
Speaker 4: Brett Favre made his showing against the Bengals. And that's
Speaker 4: the way the game is. You never know, you never know.
Speaker 4: These young guys step out of the closet and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden there's superstars. They've been waiting, wait and waiting.
Speaker 4: They get their chance and before you know it, all
Speaker 4: of a sudden.
Speaker 2: And all Brett fav did was start like the next time.
Speaker 4: The next five thousand games and when yeah, four thousand
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right.
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Speaker 3: Springfield has been waiting a while. Matt, how are we
Speaker 3: doing tonight?
Speaker 14: What's going on?
Speaker 5: Chick as always? Brother?
Speaker 24: How you doing?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Matt.
Speaker 3: H you know what it's I'm gonna drive home and yeah,
Speaker 3: it's frustrating, but I'm like, gosh, I almost feel like
Speaker 3: a player. I'm getting paid for this, so uh gosh,
Speaker 3: I can't complain.
Speaker 5: Would you say about football and radio? You know, bad
Speaker 5: bad football.
Speaker 3: Making bad football makes for great radio and no one
Speaker 3: out pieces of the Hut and no one out bungles
Speaker 3: the Bengals.
Speaker 5: They're currently for sure, and let's hope that they get
Speaker 5: out of it quickly.
Speaker 3: And Mike Brown likes to say the ox cart is
Speaker 3: stuck in the ditch.
Speaker 2: Yes, what's on your mind?
Speaker 11: I have done at that game?
Speaker 24: Man? I was down at that game. Least think it
Speaker 24: gets the Jets. And when the Jets started getting close
Speaker 24: in that fourth quarter, I was like, you know they're
Speaker 24: gonna blow this, aren't they sure enough? What's gonna happen?
Speaker 15: Man?
Speaker 24: It really feels like we are back to the days
Speaker 24: of the Bungles man, where you just know at any
Speaker 24: moment they are going to snatch defeat from the jaws
Speaker 24: of victory, to be honest, though, uh, let's be real today,
Speaker 24: they really had no business even being anywhere close in
Speaker 24: that game. To be honest, there is some questionable officiating
Speaker 24: late in that game in favor of the Bengals, shockingly,
Speaker 24: U because honestly, that was that was a blowout. Honestly,
Speaker 24: when the Bears have that pick six, I don't I
Speaker 24: don't know why they got called back, what they did
Speaker 24: or whatever.
Speaker 14: I forget, but.
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was still a lot closer
Speaker 24: than what it should have been.
Speaker 20: Uh.
Speaker 24: And honestly, it's just so many mistakes this team continues
Speaker 24: to make lining up all sides, I mean, and the
Speaker 24: lysist continues to go on and on and on, and
Speaker 24: you can see the offensive players after the game, they're
Speaker 24: starting to really get, you know, kicked off of this defense.
Speaker 24: This defense is literally if you have to spear the
Speaker 24: defense at this point, if you score three quick, I'm
Speaker 24: fifty eight seconds, Come on, man, fifty eight that should
Speaker 24: have been game. That should have been confidentals, I mean,
Speaker 24: come on, especially with the way their kicker was kicking today,
Speaker 24: you know, he was kind of shaking, so that should
Speaker 24: have been a game.
Speaker 3: But I mean, well, three rushing yards to the Bengals
Speaker 3: forty six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you kidding me?
Speaker 11: To a backup seventh rounder? Yeah, he was like a
Speaker 11: seventh round, seventh.
Speaker 4: Rounder from from well what was that rotger sixth pick
Speaker 4: or sixth pick from the from to Denver Davis. He
Speaker 4: turned out to be pretty good too, yes, this, Yeah,
Speaker 4: he may turn out to be a superstar in this league.
Speaker 2: No kidding? Well, Isaya Pacheco was the seventh rounder for kids?
Speaker 5: Who did the mega star today? Williams or this new
Speaker 5: running back?
Speaker 2: Oh? Both?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Detay Davis is out injury their number one running back.
Speaker 2: This guy, man, he took advantage of his operation.
Speaker 4: That's the reason you don't take a week off in
Speaker 4: the NFL, because someone will step in and take your job.
Speaker 2: You're exactly right, man, Well, last.
Speaker 24: Feel bad for Joe?
Speaker 14: Yeah, it really.
Speaker 24: It feels like it's a repeat of last season. Just
Speaker 24: another Joe, you know, putting lipstick on a pig. It's
Speaker 24: just literally the same thing. All the points in the world.
Speaker 24: But if you don't have a defense to stop it.
Speaker 24: On the other side, it doesn't really matter how many
Speaker 24: points you put up. You could put up fifty sixty seventy.
Speaker 24: I mean, but do you have no defense? Guess what
Speaker 24: You're gonna lose pretty much now the time. But I
Speaker 24: don't know, it might be time to start dumping some
Speaker 24: pieces like dre and logan and shting all some pieces.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 4: It's just think about how much misery the water cooler
Speaker 4: would be if Joe Flacco hadn't been scoring all those points.
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, goodness, it could be forty two to
Speaker 4: or forty seven to fourteen. Yes, the game could be
Speaker 4: over in the first half.
Speaker 3: Hey, really really appreciate the call, Matt, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: UH.
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Speaker 2: Well, the big one is samaj p Ryan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 3: And he went down with a leg ankle flipping injury. Okay,
Speaker 3: and he was down in big time pain. And then
Speaker 3: he pops up and like jogs off the field that's
Speaker 3: how tough he is.
Speaker 5: And then it hit the bench right in front of
Speaker 5: us and collapse again.
Speaker 3: Collapsed and headed to the uh and he was out
Speaker 3: for the rest of the game. Uh. Demitrius Knight at
Speaker 3: one point went into the locker room. I don't know
Speaker 3: if he came back or not.
Speaker 5: Did not, did not say that.
Speaker 2: But really, other than that, egos, a lot.
Speaker 4: Of egos and a lot of egos that have to
Speaker 4: set on it.
Speaker 5: Yes, they got to set on it for a week,
Speaker 5: week and a half now.
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Speaker 3: in Ron and Milford if you're still there.
Speaker 7: Ron, Hey, guys, I'm still How are you guys doing?
Speaker 2: Okay, Sorry, we're hanging in.
Speaker 7: Have have to, you know, prolong this conversation after this loss.
Speaker 7: But my question is when they draft guys, do they
Speaker 7: give him an IQ test?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, and he goes to get a the Wonder Lick
Speaker 3: test at the combine?
Speaker 7: Yeah, so because you know when they lined up off
Speaker 7: sides on that field goal or the extra point in
Speaker 7: the field goal, Yes, yeah, and gave them I think
Speaker 7: they gave him seven points. I mean, how how hard
Speaker 7: is it to know the line of scrimmage?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: And to see our defense Uh, defensive players not covering
Speaker 7: their gap.
Speaker 5: It's like it wasn't a defensive lineman.
Speaker 4: It was a defensive back, and they're very seldom ever
Speaker 4: run the line.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
Speaker 3: He's lined up, he's got he's on all fours on
Speaker 3: the very far left end, and he is way over
Speaker 3: the line of script.
Speaker 5: Got to know it.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're looking if you turn your head three
Speaker 4: degrees to the right, you're looking right at the ball.
Speaker 5: You shouldn't be there.
Speaker 7: Well, maybe if he's too stupid, the defensive line coast should.
Speaker 6: Run down every time and look down.
Speaker 7: That line and say, hey man, you're offside.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 7: And before I go on Candolean's sister the Trumpet family,
Speaker 7: but uh, the opening kickoff, was I the only one
Speaker 7: waiting for them to say, there's a flag on the five.
Speaker 5: Yard line.
Speaker 4: Waiting for you expected You expect it in the league.
Speaker 4: That's the way the league is anymore. We're just that
Speaker 4: there wasn't one, and it was a great return.
Speaker 7: Well, I don't know where we go from here. Man. Uh,
Speaker 7: lou an Arumo was apparently not the problem. I think
Speaker 7: we got a bunch of idiots that needed IQ tests
Speaker 7: on defense. And uh, after watching the free safety just
Speaker 7: try to blow people up, not wrap up. How many
Speaker 7: times has he been coached hey wrap up? Uh, you
Speaker 7: know it's embarrassing and.
Speaker 3: All right, Ron, we've got to run. We've got to run.
Speaker 3: Thank you for the call.
Speaker 4: If you continually do the same thing over and over
Speaker 4: and over, expect different results.
Speaker 5: There's a name for that.
Speaker 3: Yes, Well, let's check on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage today.
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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams passed for two hundred and eighty yards and
Speaker 3: three touchdowns. He caught a touchdown pass, and he ran
Speaker 3: for over fifty yards. So all the the top tacklers
Speaker 3: on the Bengals were all.
Speaker 4: Defensive defensive backs and one linebacker in that group.
Speaker 2: And the coverage was not good.
Speaker 4: It's what soft shell coverage they're playing. It takes me
Speaker 4: back to the Jets a week ago. The first quarter
Speaker 4: they played great defense, got two score lead, and it
Speaker 4: looked like they went into a soft shell prevent. But
Speaker 4: that looked like the same thing all all week today,
Speaker 4: all day today.
Speaker 5: You know, we were getting pressure on Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4: But when he when he broke contained or got out
Speaker 4: of the pocket, he had eight seconds, nine seconds at
Speaker 4: times to throw. You can't cover NFL receivers for that
Speaker 4: long a time in zones. You can't stay with him
Speaker 4: in man's that long, and so you.
Speaker 5: Gotta you gotta.
Speaker 4: If you're gonna get to the quarterback, you gotta do
Speaker 4: it three to four seconds at most, and we weren't
Speaker 4: getting there. We flushed him a few times, but you
Speaker 4: can't cover them that long, and sometimes he was just
Speaker 4: dropping back and throwing it. They were wide open anyway. Yes,
Speaker 4: So what's the what's the solution? Somewhere in between, take
Speaker 4: a shot, play some man, go get the quarterback.
Speaker 3: This used to happen Bruce in the press box, Todd
Speaker 3: Archer wrote for Missions at Post Now he's ESPN covering
Speaker 3: the cowboys and he's been there for years. Great guy
Speaker 3: and a terrific rider and a good friend. He would
Speaker 3: play the calliopee and David Folter would be sitting there,
Speaker 3: you know, a row or two behind us, and he
Speaker 3: would get very angry when he heard the calliope because,
Speaker 3: as a Bengal alum sitting up there watching mistakes, it
Speaker 3: wasn't pretty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm not very comfortable talking about it, but
Speaker 4: what else can you say, chick? You know, we're tired
Speaker 4: of we're tired of seeing it. And as an alumni,
Speaker 4: just like David was, and just like all the alumni
Speaker 4: are tired of watching. Mike Martin called in today, tired
Speaker 4: of seeing the same thing.
Speaker 2: And it's like.
Speaker 3: Boss would call me or I would call my boss,
Speaker 3: you know, near the end of the game.
Speaker 2: What do you got coming?
Speaker 3: Okay, I've got a gamer and notebook and sidebar, and
Speaker 3: this is what I'm going to kind of concentrate on.
Speaker 3: And what does Arch or Gary have are two columnists? Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I said, and I would always say a general
Speaker 3: debacle column, just a general just how they lost, just
Speaker 3: the general debacle column.
Speaker 2: So that's what it's.
Speaker 5: Flu boy right now.
Speaker 4: You know, you think about we have the best offensive
Speaker 4: weapons in football, we do, and they're playing at their
Speaker 4: highest level.
Speaker 12: And.
Speaker 5: We just we can't play defense mediocre level.
Speaker 3: And the faster the Bengals score, the quicker the defenses
Speaker 3: back out on the field. That's what's said. It is
Speaker 3: just they throw them ball to our receivers. They're liable
Speaker 3: to go for a touch at any.
Speaker 4: Time, That's exactly, And so you can't say, well, we're
Speaker 4: going to take eight minutes.
Speaker 5: Off the clock right now, you're right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And it started so well with Chuck Sizzle Charlie Jones
Speaker 3: with the ninety eight yard kickoff return, kickoff return, but
Speaker 3: then it ended so bad.
Speaker 4: I think the special teams played their best game of
Speaker 4: the year. Yes, with the exception of jumping off side
Speaker 4: or being in the neutral zone on that.
Speaker 5: Field goal, that's it. Yeah, But how big a play
Speaker 5: was that?
Speaker 2: Oh huge?
Speaker 3: It cost the Bengals seven points and then the personal
Speaker 3: foul that cost the Bengals potentially touchdown again touchdown, yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: because we take over.
Speaker 2: The Bengals take over where the guy missed.
Speaker 3: The field goal and yet gives them a fresh set
Speaker 3: of downs and they go down and score that could
Speaker 3: have Oh talk about momentum swings, big big And let's
Speaker 3: go out to the phones.
Speaker 2: Rick in Dallas. You're taking us home.
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Speaker 10: Talked to Sugar.
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Speaker 10: I used to listen to Sports Talk every night.
Speaker 14: Yes, you know what what show up? You had that
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Speaker 5: I into that whole thing.
Speaker 10: Well, he's saying that, you know, he you know, trying
Speaker 10: to say that young lady's life.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And then we're talking about you know something, you know,
Speaker 6: I said, I found a.
Speaker 18: Real uh uh this spot if and uh at the
Speaker 18: college football you know that that portal and it's showing
Speaker 18: up that you see he's showing up the you see yesterday.
Speaker 6: You know what the problem with with that portal?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 3: Rick, uh, you're talking about the portal. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 3: have to cut you off because we are we're closing
Speaker 3: We're shutting it down here, We're we're closing it out
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