WEBVTT - Tri-State Chevy Dealers Bengals Postgame Show 11/2/2025

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<v Speaker 2>We are live at Wings and Rings in Oakley.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty six point fifteen Factory Colony Lane, and you are

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<v Speaker 3>listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 3>presented by RNL Carriers. This is Chick Ludwig. I will

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<v Speaker 3>be joined shortly by Bruce Kozerski, Bengals legendary offensive linemen,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll be breaking down the Bengals forty seven of

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<v Speaker 3>the forty two loss to the Chicago Bears at pay

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<v Speaker 3>Corpse Stadium today like a wrecking ball. Mike Mills is

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<v Speaker 3>in our Kenwood studios. Wings burgers, sandwiches, salads, appetizers, drink specials,

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<v Speaker 3>Oakley until eight thirty tonight, and you are invited. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you can't be here in person, feel free to

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<v Speaker 3>join us by calling five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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<v Speaker 3>seven thousand or one eight hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Do the big One.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bengals, they were fifty four seconds away from a

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<v Speaker 3>miracle victory, down fourteen points, forty one to twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>They score fifteen points in forty nine seconds thanks to

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<v Speaker 3>a pair of touchdown passes sandwiched around the recovery of

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<v Speaker 3>an on side kick, and they lead forty two to

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<v Speaker 3>forty one. And then Cincinnati's ghost defense, and that's my

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<v Speaker 3>nickname for him, their ghost defense, anything but Golden, reared

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<v Speaker 3>its ugly head once again. Chicago quarterback Caleb Williams fires

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<v Speaker 3>a fifty eight yard touchdown pass to tight end Colston

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<v Speaker 3>Loveland with seventeen seconds remaining.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Bears win.

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<v Speaker 3>Improving to five and three in the Bengals fall to

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<v Speaker 3>three and six two and three at home.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost their sixth game in seven tries.

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<v Speaker 3>And just an unbelievable game today attract meet nine lead changes,

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<v Speaker 3>one thousand and seventy one total yards in this game,

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred and seventy six by the Chicago Bears four

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and ninety five by the Bengals. Joe Flacco was unreal,

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<v Speaker 3>throwing for four hundred and seventy yards four touchdowns with

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<v Speaker 3>two interceptions, but the most striking shocking.

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<v Speaker 2>Number out there.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bears rushed for two hundred and eighty three yards

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<v Speaker 3>to the Bengals forty six. There were some incredible individual

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<v Speaker 3>performances in this game. T Higgins nine targets, seven catches,

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and twenty one yards, two touchdowns, including an

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<v Speaker 3>unbelievable forty four yarder, but the Bengals ghost defense could

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<v Speaker 3>not contain Caleb Williams and a rookie running back by

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<v Speaker 3>the name of Kyle Menangay, the two hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 3>third pick in the seventh round, a rookie out of

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<v Speaker 3>Rutgers rushes twenty six times for one hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 3>six yards and Bruce Kazerski. If I didn't watch it,

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<v Speaker 3>if I didn't listen, I wouldn't have believed forty seven

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<v Speaker 3>to forty two, Bengals so close to a miracle victory.

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<v Speaker 2>Disappointment once again.

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<v Speaker 4>I was sitting there watching it, and it was like

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<v Speaker 4>dejavou all over again. I felt like I was last week,

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<v Speaker 4>sitting in the same side of the club level watching

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<v Speaker 4>the same Bengal defense. This week, our special teams contributed heavily.

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<v Speaker 4>We had great outstanding performance special teams wise return a kickoff, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>we aget an on side kick, it's all going our way.

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<v Speaker 4>We block a kick, or yeah, we blocked the kick

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<v Speaker 4>field goal and they missed one. It's all going right.

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<v Speaker 4>We're throwing them all up and down the field, and

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<v Speaker 4>then and then what happens?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I left the stadium after the Bears went up by

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<v Speaker 4>that second score late in the fourth quarter. I had

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<v Speaker 4>to get home, had to get home, get here with

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<v Speaker 4>like five and changed standing and waiting for my ride,

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<v Speaker 4>watching the jumbo tron from where I'm getting a ride,

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<v Speaker 4>and the Bengals court touchdown and a two point conversion,

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<v Speaker 4>and thinking, well, we gotta get the outside kick. We

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<v Speaker 4>haven't got one of those laws in forever. We get

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<v Speaker 4>the hot say kicks, this can happen. And then the

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<v Speaker 4>worst thing happened in the world. We scored too quick.

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<v Speaker 3>We did.

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<v Speaker 4>When's the last time we said that we scored too quick?

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<v Speaker 4>That's amazing, it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>And that came with fifty eight seconds to go.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you first thought is, well, OK, fifty eight seconds,

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<v Speaker 4>that they only have to go thirty yards for a

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<v Speaker 4>field goal, and that's probably the way the Bengals will

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<v Speaker 4>lose the game, the field.

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<v Speaker 3>Goal for fifty four seconds, and you're right, Uh, Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 3>They just had too much time. And this is what

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<v Speaker 3>we're dealt with here, Bruce. And it's great to see you,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, and thanks for joining me. Last time

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<v Speaker 3>on Sports Talk you called this a must win. Everybody did.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't lose back to back home games at this

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<v Speaker 3>stage of the season, go to three and six and

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<v Speaker 3>keep falling farther behind the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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<v Speaker 5>Especially going into the bye week.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that that one week off is going to feel

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<v Speaker 4>like a month.

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<v Speaker 5>It will I feel like a month.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like you play a baseball game and losing on

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<v Speaker 4>a walk off and you play the next day.

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<v Speaker 5>It's over. You gotta drop it.

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<v Speaker 4>This one's this one's like uh, like I said, dejahfou,

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<v Speaker 4>it keeps haunting, haunting the fans and they were livid.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, when you sit in the stands and you

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<v Speaker 4>watch the game, you're not sitting in the press corps.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not sitting The fans were beside themselves livid.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh. There were I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Say as many because they didn't have an accurate count,

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<v Speaker 4>but the cheering was louder, be honest for the Bears

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<v Speaker 4>at some points in the game than it was for

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<v Speaker 4>the Bengals, and that can't happen at home.

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb Williams and Kyle Manonge and the Bears turned play

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<v Speaker 3>Course Stadium into their own personal playground there for most

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<v Speaker 3>of this game.

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<v Speaker 5>It was truly sad.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, I sat up there and I kept saying,

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<v Speaker 4>this is what you know, we actually had to stop

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<v Speaker 4>in the first series that we got to call for

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<v Speaker 4>a holding penalty, defensive holding and you know, okay, well

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<v Speaker 4>they stopped at once and be able to stop them again.

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<v Speaker 4>Not the rest of the day, not the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>the day. I guess they made them punt once, but

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<v Speaker 4>not the rest of the day. You feel when they

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<v Speaker 4>settle for a field goal, that's a stop anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Chase Brown drops a wide open pass that he might

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<v Speaker 3>have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Able to score on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, and that caused a forty one yard field goal.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Bengals go up ten to seven, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Cairo Santos misses a field goal, but dj Ivy gets

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<v Speaker 3>called for being in the neutral zone.

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<v Speaker 2>They wind up scoring a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, when they got new life at that point in

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<v Speaker 5>the game.

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<v Speaker 4>You got the you got the five yard illegal hand,

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<v Speaker 4>legal contact by the defender, and then you got that

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<v Speaker 4>one off side.

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<v Speaker 5>You just feel it's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 4>There was another moment a little while later where you

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<v Speaker 4>just felt something was just gonna happen against us. We're

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna do this, We're not gonna do that, And

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<v Speaker 4>you start to get the doubts because they certainly had

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<v Speaker 4>enough unsuccessful. But again, Joe Flacco and the receivers, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean Jamar Chason t Higgins was out unbelievable, unbelievable, and

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<v Speaker 4>they were playing their butts off. They wanted to win

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<v Speaker 4>this game in the worst way. Uh, But there's something

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<v Speaker 4>missing on defense. I don't think it's I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>it's effort. I I really don't think it's efforts. Whether

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<v Speaker 4>it's schemes, we're not we're not getting We got pressure

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<v Speaker 4>on Killer Williams on on that long. The problem with

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<v Speaker 4>getting pressure was we didn't have anybody when he ran.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was my biggest going in catching the rabbit.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, as when he broke. When he broke, the

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<v Speaker 4>tain er stepped up, there was nobody home.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Bruce Kazerski. This is Chick Ludwig.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post Game

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to the Tri.

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<v Speaker 3>State Chevy Dealers post game Sports Talk presented by RNEL Carriers.

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<v Speaker 3>He's Bruce Kazerski. This is Chick Ludwig. We are at

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<v Speaker 3>the Wings and Rings Oakley forty six fifteen Factory Colony

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<v Speaker 3>Lane till eight thirty tonight and Bruce. The Bengals came

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<v Speaker 3>in really with the lead. The east penalized team in

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<v Speaker 3>the National Football League at an average of five a game. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>they had five midway through the second quarter and a penalty,

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<v Speaker 3>and every one of them was crippling everyone. And finally

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<v Speaker 3>Jamar Chase gets his first catch at the nine to

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five mark of the second quarter. A Joe Flacco

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<v Speaker 3>fumble got overturned, thank goodness, and then he hits Chase

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<v Speaker 3>for thirty seven yards first and goal at the six

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<v Speaker 3>yard line. And what happens Orlando Brown on the next

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<v Speaker 3>play an incompletion in the end zone, Orlando Brown gets

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<v Speaker 3>tagged with a fifteen yard unsportsmanlike penalty and that just

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<v Speaker 3>killed that drive. So instead of getting a touchdown, they

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<v Speaker 3>have to settle for a field goal, and that.

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<v Speaker 4>Hurt every every players had had situations in a game

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<v Speaker 4>where they've been chief shot at and they've been beaten.

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<v Speaker 4>He was beaten several times prior to that by the

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<v Speaker 4>defense event on that side probably and the one time

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<v Speaker 4>he got run over, and he's a good player, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, he just didn't have his best day at

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<v Speaker 4>that point and it was frustrated.

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<v Speaker 5>And when.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever happened on that play, he got in a fight.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm watching the play on this side, and next thing

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we get a melee going on the other

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<v Speaker 4>side of the field and he drew the flag. And

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<v Speaker 4>you just in that situation, knowing the way things are going,

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<v Speaker 4>with a frustrations mounting everywhere, you can't do that. You

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<v Speaker 4>just you just can't do that. And that's that's as

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<v Speaker 4>big a play in the game. That's a bigger penalties

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<v Speaker 4>as in the game.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was fourteen to ten at that point in

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<v Speaker 3>favor of Chicago. The Bengals had to settle for a

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<v Speaker 3>field goal. Fourteen to thirteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that that that's a four point, yes, four points penalty,

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<v Speaker 4>and uh, you know, momentum, you had all the momentum

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<v Speaker 4>in the world. You had players making plays and then

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<v Speaker 4>then you get the big fellow getting that penalty, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's that's crippling.

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<v Speaker 5>It really is.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no there's no excuse for it. I know they

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<v Speaker 4>they talked to him on the sidelines and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>he feels bad about it, but it happened.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you just you just can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go out to the phones.

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<v Speaker 3>Pat leads us off in reading Pat Hi, how are

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<v Speaker 3>you today?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>God? You know you know me.

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<v Speaker 8>I usually don't listen to the postgame show where when

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<v Speaker 8>they lose, because it's such a joke. But I thought

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<v Speaker 8>i'd try today and see if any truth or reality

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<v Speaker 8>would be discussed. Now, just as I thought, not a chance.

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<v Speaker 6>Wayne box Miller said that this team doesn't quit.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, maybe the.

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<v Speaker 6>Offense doesn't quit, but what about the defense? He said,

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<v Speaker 6>we did a great job on special teams to get

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<v Speaker 6>the onside kick. He said that the Bengals had a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of time to regroup.

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<v Speaker 8>Really now, when Dave talked to the head coach, Taylor

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<v Speaker 8>said that the defense is often one step sorge and

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<v Speaker 8>we didn't have enough takeaways. What about knowing how to

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<v Speaker 8>tackle and putting more effort into that. I have never

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<v Speaker 8>seen a team that tackles so horribly. And they talked

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<v Speaker 8>about having a bunch of guys that are leaders, who

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<v Speaker 8>are our leaders on defense. They went over fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 8>without even intimating that our defense is absolutely horrific.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I'm calling it the ghost defense. Anything but gold.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I couldn't take anymore, so I turned it off.

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<v Speaker 6>But now I just want to give you one.

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<v Speaker 8>Example of the embarrassing nature of our defense.

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<v Speaker 6>On Chicago's first drive in the second half, the Bears

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<v Speaker 6>running back who was fantastic, but then again, he was

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<v Speaker 6>playing the Bengals. He had just gotten the first down,

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<v Speaker 6>but are number ninety eight. I had to look up

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<v Speaker 6>his name, p J. Splayton. I was shocked that I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't know who he.

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<v Speaker 8>Was, but I have never ever heard his name for

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<v Speaker 8>anything describing a good play. He was kneeling on the

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<v Speaker 8>ground doing an Arnold Schwarzenegger pose, flexing his muscles after

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<v Speaker 8>they got a first down. I mean, how embarrassing is that?

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<v Speaker 6>Naturally they went on to score a touchdown. Are is

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<v Speaker 6>he one of those great leaders we have or is

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<v Speaker 6>anyone on this defense accountable for anything? Would you tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bad?

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<v Speaker 3>And we're stuck with it. This is who they have,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's too many young players. They're counting on them

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<v Speaker 3>and they're giving them a experience. Meanwhile, they're getting run over.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not getting taken to the wood shed. They're getting

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<v Speaker 3>taken to the wood chipper.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just looking at some stats here.

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<v Speaker 4>Myself and Jordan Battle five tackles, seven assists for twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>Carter linebacker five tackles, five assists for ten. Dax Hill

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<v Speaker 4>defensive back four tackles, three assists for seven. Gino Stone

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<v Speaker 4>four tackles, three assists for seven. Those top four tacklers

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<v Speaker 4>defensive backs are one linebacker.

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<v Speaker 5>That's it, yep or Berks three tackles, three assists.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm just watching that last touchdown they got again once again,

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<v Speaker 8>two guys trying to tackle the guy who scored the

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<v Speaker 8>touchdown and they just off of them.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yeah, they each that in the pros. Or do

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<v Speaker 6>they assume you already know how to tackle?

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<v Speaker 4>I assume they expect you to tackle. The defensive backs

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<v Speaker 4>that I played with tackle. And I'm certain I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to speak too badly about I think this was

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<v Speaker 4>all foreseeable. I'm not sure that they're they've grown a

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<v Speaker 4>whole bunch in the AL Golden defense.

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<v Speaker 10>And I.

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<v Speaker 4>Know he's a great guy and he's a good coach,

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<v Speaker 4>but they have not gotten better and schimatic wise, whatever

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<v Speaker 4>it is, they've not gotten better, and they're not taking

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<v Speaker 4>chances to get better. They're not the blitzeres aren't working

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<v Speaker 4>when he calls them because somebody gets wide open that

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<v Speaker 4>they dropped the coverage on a back out of the

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<v Speaker 4>backfield completely one time. And there's just so many, so

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<v Speaker 4>many little things, and they're a step here and a

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<v Speaker 4>step there. As the coach said, it is a step.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's the NFL. You're a step behind. You're a

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<v Speaker 4>step behind, you lose.

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<v Speaker 3>They've give it up at least twenty seven points now

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<v Speaker 3>since the openers. That's eight straight games at least twenty

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<v Speaker 3>seven points. And we had the stat last week fifty

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<v Speaker 3>four and four when scoring thirty eight or more points. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>now he's one and four. Scoring thirty eight points. One

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<v Speaker 3>and four is their record in the last two years.

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<v Speaker 4>We were crying over our spilt milk last week when

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<v Speaker 4>they scored thirty eight and lost.

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<v Speaker 5>Today they scored forty two and lost. Yeah, that makes

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<v Speaker 5>it even worse.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I don't understand why the coach won't even

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<v Speaker 8>call them out and say something.

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<v Speaker 6>Besides, they're one step behind.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, come on, well, if you saw what the

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<v Speaker 3>what the players only meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>What that meant?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Oh, he's in a very very tough situation because

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<v Speaker 4>because his neck is more on the line than theirs,

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<v Speaker 4>be honestly, because you can't you can't get a whole

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<v Speaker 4>news set of players at this stage. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>think he's doing a great job offensively, but it's not

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<v Speaker 4>working defensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Pat, We've got to run. We've reached the top of

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<v Speaker 3>the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>News.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate you calling. Hey, he's Bruce Kezerski. This is Chick Ludwigan.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports

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<v Speaker 3>Talk presented by RNL Carriers. He's Bruce Kazerski. This is

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<v Speaker 3>Chick Ludwig. We're live at the Wings and Rings Oakleigh

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<v Speaker 3>forty six to fifteen Factory Colony Lane. We will be

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<v Speaker 3>here till eight thirty tonight, and we're breaking down the

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<v Speaker 3>Bengals loss to the Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>Bears like a wrecking ball.

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<v Speaker 3>And Bruce, you mentioned it as soon as you came

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<v Speaker 3>in today that the Bears had a great game plan,

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<v Speaker 3>knowing how aggressive this young defense wanted to be, trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Make up for last week, and they kind of played

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<v Speaker 2>right in.

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<v Speaker 4>That was my first thought watching sitting up there watching

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<v Speaker 4>the first couple of series, is the Bengals are flying

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<v Speaker 4>around to the ball there trying to take away I

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<v Speaker 4>mean that talk, this is the defense only meeting.

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<v Speaker 5>They were gonna fly around, they were gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Make plays, and they were except for all the trick

0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.800
<v Speaker 4>plays that they kept overlooking. And they ran every trick

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<v Speaker 4>play in the book. Remember this head coach came from

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<v Speaker 4>the Detroit Lions and Dan Campbell, and they ran every

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<v Speaker 4>trick play in the book, and I swear we saw

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<v Speaker 4>every one.

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<v Speaker 5>Of them today.

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<v Speaker 4>They ran lateral pat to double passes, they were in

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<v Speaker 4>reverse passes, they threw back screens to the quarterback. It

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<v Speaker 4>was just a tremendous game plan. I thought they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>run out of tricks.

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<v Speaker 3>They turned the Bengals defense every which way but loose.

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<v Speaker 2>It really did they Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>They were flying around, but they were going the wrong

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<v Speaker 4>direction sometimes and that's again that hurts, and it's a

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<v Speaker 4>one step that's coach said, you're you're one step away

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<v Speaker 4>from making the play. And then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 4>they were able to get that pass off and throw

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<v Speaker 4>it backside to a screen to the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb Williams he catches two passes yea for a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was crazy, it really, this was just a

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<v Speaker 3>wild game, Bruce, And it was like it was almost

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<v Speaker 3>reminded me of Flag football.

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<v Speaker 2>For a while.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, there was not a lot of hit There was

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<v Speaker 5>not a lot of tackling going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Well and point all you hit to do is touch

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<v Speaker 3>your pinky on the player and he's down. Yeah, okay

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<v Speaker 3>after the interception, and that really helped the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at Joe Flacco throwing for Feuner in seventy

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<v Speaker 4>yards and the running game that's that ran so well

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<v Speaker 4>last week thirty one yards.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, two hundred and eighty three rushing yards for the Bears,

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<v Speaker 3>forty six for the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And not only do they throw it a bunch, they

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<v Speaker 4>ran out of a bunch the Bears.

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<v Speaker 5>It was. It was the six hundred or five hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and fifty total yards.

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<v Speaker 3>Offense, five seventy.

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<v Speaker 5>Six, it was. It was just unbelievable. Look a track meet.

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<v Speaker 4>Every time they got on the field, it was up

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<v Speaker 4>and down the field.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, let's go out to the phones. Mark is

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<v Speaker 3>in Florence High Mark.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, how's it going.

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<v Speaker 13>I just wanted to make three points about the game.

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<v Speaker 13>I thought the momentum changed when when Chase Brown dropped that.

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<v Speaker 14>Pass oh yeah, early in the game.

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<v Speaker 13>And then the big the big one was that when

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<v Speaker 13>that missfield goal happened and the dj ivy was outside,

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<v Speaker 13>I thought.

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<v Speaker 7>That was a big game changer right there.

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<v Speaker 13>And and the last point I'm gonna make, even with

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<v Speaker 13>that completion to the tight end at the end of

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<v Speaker 13>the game, if you tackle him, get him on the ground,

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<v Speaker 13>and don't because they were running out of time.

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<v Speaker 7>That field goal kicker was struggling the whole game.

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<v Speaker 11>He missed two field goals. So my my thing.

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<v Speaker 13>Was get him on the ground, make that kicker beat

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<v Speaker 13>you with his leg, because it wasn't no guarantee he

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<v Speaker 13>was gonna make it. And Jordan Battle was just he

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<v Speaker 13>just put his shoulder into him. He didn't wrap him

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<v Speaker 13>up and trying to tackle.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm not I'm not even going to go so

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<v Speaker 4>far as to say they needed to get that guy

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<v Speaker 4>on the ground. If they'd got the guys on the

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<v Speaker 4>ground earlier in the game, you know, if they stopped

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<v Speaker 4>and drive earlier in the game, maybe there's not fifty

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<v Speaker 4>seconds left.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, this particular game, I don't blame Zach the

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<v Speaker 13>coach on them losing it. I think you just have

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<v Speaker 13>to point the finger all on that defense. That defense

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<v Speaker 13>just didn't get the job done.

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<v Speaker 12>At no point in the game.

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<v Speaker 13>And then those penalties, you know, the Bengals kind of

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<v Speaker 13>you know, kind of beat themselves. So I'll get off

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<v Speaker 13>and listen to the rest of the show.

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<v Speaker 5>I know we had a we had the holding penalty

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<v Speaker 5>or any game.

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<v Speaker 7>Sad we here, Bob Trump, he passed away.

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<v Speaker 4>Pass interference that we have. We weren't close enough to

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<v Speaker 4>get a pass interference.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and Demetrius Knight with the illegal hands. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was kind of a tickie tack clawtack.

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<v Speaker 2>But still that kept that drive going and they scored.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, you might see that kind of call earlier in

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<v Speaker 4>the game to let everybody know we're calling it tight today.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't get handsy and h then you didn't see at

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And Bruce, how often don't we see it?

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<v Speaker 3>This happened in the Super Bowl down in Miami where

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<v Speaker 3>at the Chicago Bears ran back the opening kickoff for

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<v Speaker 3>a touchdown and then Peyton Manning goes out and beats

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<v Speaker 3>him for the Colts.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, and.

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<v Speaker 3>That was my thought, Yeah, great for Charlie Jones, that

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<v Speaker 3>was awesome. Ninety eight yards a lightning bolt right out

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<v Speaker 3>of the gate, and that caused the the time of

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<v Speaker 3>possession to be really skewed and the number of snaps too.

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<v Speaker 2>By the Bengals conversession.

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<v Speaker 4>The conversation was about, you know, they won, They won

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<v Speaker 4>the toss and elected to kick offf they wanted. They deferred,

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<v Speaker 4>they wanted the ball start of the second half because

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<v Speaker 4>they get the potential pre pre half and post half score,

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<v Speaker 4>which they they got. But then we returned the opening

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 4>kickoff and that supposedly so shoots that theory the heck.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, but it didn't. It didn't. It haunted us,

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<v Speaker 5>it really did.

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<v Speaker 12>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go back out to the phones. Keith is in Muncie. Hey, Keith, Hello, Yes.

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<v Speaker 7>Sir, Hey, good day to you. I wish you the

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<v Speaker 7>best as you.

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<v Speaker 12>Want to tell you you're one of the legends of radio.

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<v Speaker 3>You are.

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<v Speaker 12>You belong in the Hall of Fame, your voice. But

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 12>I mean, just like the guy from Louisville Radio up

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 12>here in Fort Wayne.

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<v Speaker 14>But want to tell you that it's like your if,

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<v Speaker 14>like your defense and your your coach is bought off.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't understand it. And I mean, you guys are good,

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<v Speaker 12>but I just don't understand why they fall on their faith.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'm.

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<v Speaker 12>Sorry for UC for falling the other day over there, Utah.

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<v Speaker 12>You know I've followed you guys all the time, but

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 12>that's just like the Rids and the Sin today at Bengals.

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 12>I have so much faith in you guys. Hell, you

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 12>want to know the truth, I could buy almost either

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 12>team all by myself. You want to know the truth.

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:23.719
<v Speaker 12>I could buy them. But you guys are good, and

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<v Speaker 12>I'm sorry for what you have to have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Ken, we appreciate it, We appreciate the call, Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you very much. Bengals fans are frustrated, They're angry, they're upset.

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 3>They have every reason to be angry and upset. You

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 3>can't lose at home. And now they're two and three

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 3>at home, and they've lost six out of seven games.

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<v Speaker 4>And now the frustration of a bye week, coming off

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 4>two horrible losses eighty points in two games and you're

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<v Speaker 4>zero and two. The fans are gonna gel on, are

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<v Speaker 4>gonna sit on this for for another two weeks before

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 4>the game and won't be home, and so who knows

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 4>in the time period it takes for them to get home.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's gonna be a long period of time.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, we've got to take a break, but we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>come back with another Bengals legend when we return. This

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 3>is Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski, and you're listening to

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<v Speaker 3>the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented by

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<v Speaker 3>RNL carriers live from Wings and Rings and Oakley on

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<v Speaker 3>seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 3>to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 3>by RNL carriers Bruce Kazerski, Chick Ludwig, and we are

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<v Speaker 3>live at the Wings and Rings, Oakley, forty six to fifteen,

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<v Speaker 3>Factory Colony Lane. Bengals fall forty seven to forty two

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<v Speaker 3>to the Chicago Bears. Today in the Bears turn pay

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 3>Course Stadium into their own personal playground. And on the

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<v Speaker 3>phone right now with us former Bengals.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>From special teams to wide receiver, He did it all,

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Martin, Mike, Welcome to seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you much.

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<v Speaker 10>What's going on, Chicken, because how you guys doing?

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<v Speaker 9>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Mike, We're hanging in there.

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<v Speaker 12>Man.

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<v Speaker 14>Let me tell you something coming from Chicago.

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<v Speaker 9>You guys know that's where I live now, Yes, sir,

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 9>I was back before.

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<v Speaker 5>We got here.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm talking trash all week by what by what was

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<v Speaker 9>going to happen? I get in town yesterday, I go

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<v Speaker 9>out to a couple events the Bears fans. They got

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<v Speaker 9>five buses.

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<v Speaker 13>People in a club.

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 9>I walked in with Big Kid on and I almost

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 9>thought I was back in Chicago. That's how I mean,

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 9>that's how many.

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<v Speaker 5>Bears fans that there were.

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<v Speaker 9>But oh, listen, I'm so frustrated. And I know, you know.

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<v Speaker 9>I was with a couple of guys, a couple of

0:28:56.760 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 9>former players to day, and everyone's frustrated. Man, you cannot

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 9>play defense the way these guys are playing defense.

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<v Speaker 7>You just can't.

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<v Speaker 9>You cannot win any games. You can't bump people anymore.

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 9>This is a physical game. You gotta rap. I told someone,

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 9>I don't know what they do throughout the week. I

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 9>know it's not real physical practices and all that kind

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 9>of stuff and hitting and tackling. They have to get

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 9>back to fundamentals. They have to get They need to

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 9>bring out a tackling dummy and have every defensive player

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<v Speaker 9>hit and wrap the dummy and take the dummy to

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<v Speaker 9>the ground because for the last couple of weeks, that's

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 9>all that's been happening. They think they can bump a

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<v Speaker 9>guy and expect the cat of fall and it's just ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 14>Man.

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<v Speaker 9>I had friends from all over the country calling me

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 9>after the game, Mike, the Bengals are embarrassment, and I'm like, well,

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 9>you know, I said, I'm not gonna totally say that.

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 9>I said, I said, offense is putting up some points,

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 9>but they still you know, offense still making a little

0:29:56.480 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 9>small mistakes as well. But and defensively, they gotta get

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<v Speaker 9>back to fundamentals of chocolate, that's all.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The gap control is just brutal. We saw this Manongae

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 3>just slither through, you know, like a shot through the

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 3>defensive line.

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 4>That's that's that all pro Monogae, the future Hall of

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 4>Famer in Mononga.

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly right. And they brought in a guy. They

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 3>brought in a guy that they they just brought up

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<v Speaker 3>from the practice squad, and he went two carries for

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<v Speaker 3>thirty yards.

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<v Speaker 15>But it's read.

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<v Speaker 9>But yeah, I'm talking about angles. They're taking bad angles.

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 9>They're they're losing contained that stuff you learned in college.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and they're drafted. They're drafted to not do that right?

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 16>Right?

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 9>How you lose containing when you know that's one of

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 9>your only responsibilities. If if, if you, if you have contains,

0:30:56.040 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 9>stay outside, put your show on the outside, stay out there.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 9>These guys a different in different inside, and folks is

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 9>running right around them.

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 4>TV's are coming inside. They did it all last week

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<v Speaker 4>to the dvs to coming inside.

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 5>That block in.

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<v Speaker 3>Life was There was a play when when Briton Brown

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<v Speaker 3>ranch with the twenty two yard touchdown to make a

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<v Speaker 3>thirty one to twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the announcers pointed.

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 3>It out the Bengals defensive line they were slanting to

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 3>the weak side and the Bears were overloaded on the

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<v Speaker 3>right side.

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<v Speaker 5>That's That's what I'm talking about. Scheme wise.

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<v Speaker 4>How could you either somebody made the wrong call or

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<v Speaker 4>or they just are are coach to do that and

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. They're constantly overad to

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<v Speaker 4>the wrong side.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and when those kinds of things happen, man, it

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 9>makes you wonder do you have confident players on the

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 9>team or, like you guys said, are they being coached wrong?

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<v Speaker 16>Something something has a.

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<v Speaker 9>Change, you know.

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<v Speaker 16>I don't think they go.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, it's hard to figure out if they even

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 9>got a shout of getting in playoffs. Uh, but something

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 9>has to change because if this continues, the Bengals defense

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 9>will be the laughing stock of the NFL. This game

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 9>is going to be talked about on every major network

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<v Speaker 9>for the rest of the week until Thursday.

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<v Speaker 5>Night for two weeks. They don't play again for a while, two.

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<v Speaker 7>Weeks, right, that's true, that's true.

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 9>And now they got to sit back and hear all

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 9>this stuff.

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:31.719
<v Speaker 2>For two weeks.

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Losing the next week, it feels like two or three weeks.

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Go bye week.

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 3>Coming on two losses, it's gonna feel like a month,

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 3>like a month.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, And the thing is the best thing these guys

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 9>can do, you know, to get their minds back. Go home,

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 9>wherever you live, go home, go home, and come back with.

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 7>A fresh with a fresh fresh.

0:32:55.080 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 9>Mind, so you can get down to tackling any strapping

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 9>up and tackling.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight straight games giving up twenty seven points.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, no, there was a and you were you were

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<v Speaker 5>part of this mic.

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 4>There was a period of time when we were when

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 4>Browning was the quarterback and everybody was throwing their their

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:16.959
<v Speaker 4>hands up in the air about how poorly the offense

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 4>was performing, and they were they own they had to

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 4>own it. But at the same time, was the defense

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 4>doing a whole lot better? And it was it was

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 4>so bad offense will be that nobody even paid much

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:30.479
<v Speaker 4>attention to how poorly the defense was playing. We constantly

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 4>put them in bad situations and they weren't answering the

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 4>bell at all. You know, they were giving up touchdowns

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 4>and and so here we are now here all the

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<v Speaker 4>nine games in the regular season, and now it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>come to a head, Like you say, something.

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<v Speaker 5>Has to happen.

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<v Speaker 10>Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 15>Let me tell you this real quickly.

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<v Speaker 9>If I'm a defensive coach, is exactly what I do,

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<v Speaker 9>and you cant sugarcoat it. I'm pulling up the field

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 9>and cause you know how Bruce and the beat of

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 9>the coaches and off of the coaches would play one

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<v Speaker 9>play for about ten minutes and go down the line

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 9>and look at everybody's position, look at what you're doing,

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 9>Look at this, look at your footwork, look at this,

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 9>look at your attack. They need to do that all next.

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<v Speaker 4>Week, you know what, Then they can take one game

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 4>and make a highlight film of what not to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly comes a tackling.

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:27.359
<v Speaker 17>Exactly because Eric, I guarantee you every last player on

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<v Speaker 17>that field pretty much is an example of what you

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 17>don't do.

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<v Speaker 16>And here's the thing I'm gonna tell you guys this.

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<v Speaker 11>I left the stadium.

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 9>I left the stadium when they were down by fourteen.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm yeah, right.

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 9>I get to the car and I say, okay, binge, okay,

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 9>bingers went down the score. If they go down the score,

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 9>maybe they can get the doll side kick. Boom, they

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 9>got the downside kick. I'm like, okay, now they.

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 6>Can put themselves in a position and win the game.

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<v Speaker 15>They go right down the field, score, win the game,

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 15>and I'm thinking, okay, uh uh, the other team has

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 15>the ball now, so so first.

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 9>Down nothing, second down nothing. By this time, I'm in

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 9>the car listen to any radio.

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:19.879
<v Speaker 7>The radio goes out.

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:22.240
<v Speaker 15>I don't know what happened.

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 7>The radio goes Who's out.

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:30.839
<v Speaker 9>When it comes back in, uh laughing and saying, yeah

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:32.280
<v Speaker 9>that was that was a great touchdown.

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.720
<v Speaker 10>Fifty a young Chicago, I'm.

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 9>Like, what, wait, wait a minute, fifty year.

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:41.479
<v Speaker 15>I just saw it not too long ago.

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 9>I just saw what happened, and I was almost sick

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 9>to my stomach.

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know what, it would have been better.

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 4>It would have been better to be down by by

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 4>like uh two points and making and had the Bengals

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:57.839
<v Speaker 4>slow play and kicking field goal to win that game

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 4>rather than having to have a touchdown as they had

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 4>to have a touchdown.

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:02.320
<v Speaker 5>They made a big play.

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.760
<v Speaker 4>Congratulations, now you put Now you put us in position

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:06.959
<v Speaker 4>to have to play defense again.

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 3>And Mike, I hate to cut you off. We've reached the.

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:10.399
<v Speaker 2>Bott with the aller By.

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<v Speaker 14>I just want to listen.

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 16>I just want to I just want to say hello.

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<v Speaker 7>To you guys.

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 11>Man.

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 9>I listen to you guys at Chicago.

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 15>So y'all do a great job.

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Appreciate you, Mike, thank you so much. Wow. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>you're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports

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<v Speaker 3>Talk presented by RNL Carriers.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Mike.

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<v Speaker 3>Martin in studio here at Wings and Rings in Oakley,

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<v Speaker 3>Bruce Kazerski and Chick Ludwig on seven hundred WLW and

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<v Speaker 3>Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. You're listening to the Tri State

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<v Speaker 3>Chevy Dealers post game sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers.

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<v Speaker 3>He's Bruce Kazerski, this is Chick Ludwig and we are

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 3>live at Wings and Rings, Oakley forty six fifteen Factory

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 3>Colony Lane. We're here till eight thirty tonight, and this

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 3>is the place to vent five one, three, seven, four, nine,

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 3>seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one. Let's go

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 3>out to the phones and welcome in. Is this touchdown?

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<v Speaker 3>Tommy and Milford?

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<v Speaker 16>What do you need to say?

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<v Speaker 6>Their check there?

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<v Speaker 16>It's like somebody you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, you know, it was like last week

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<v Speaker 2>was bad? Can we top it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 2>We topped it this week again.

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 5>Now it's gonna take up two weeks to make it better.

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<v Speaker 16>Yes, it's pretty it's pretty hard to do, Okay. I

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.959
<v Speaker 16>think we're making it way too complicated. If you can't

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 16>stop the run, you ain't gonna beat nobody. I mean,

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 16>that's just the way it is. And I think the

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 16>last Pro Bowl guy we had on defense was Atkins.

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<v Speaker 16>So let's look at what's going on with with Tobin

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 16>and what they've been drafting. I think part of the

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 16>problem is they don't have the players on the field

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 16>that can play this particular scheme. So whether you can

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 16>change the scheme or you can't change the players quickly.

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 16>But these guys ain't getting it. They're making the I

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 16>mean even battle. On the last play, Hey, you know

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 16>what they're trying to do. You're gonna go twenty yards

0:37:57.800 --> 0:37:59.760
<v Speaker 16>try to get a field goal. He's playing thirty yards

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 16>day he was trying to play against a touchdown. I

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 16>thought what they were trying to play? What they're playing for?

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 16>A freaking he caught that right in front? Well hell

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 16>did decide to wrap up nothing tackling tackling iss have

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 16>that mental idea. Let me tell you this crap wouldn't

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:17.839
<v Speaker 16>be going on in Pittsburgh. Them guys would be out

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 16>of here. They don't put up with that nonsense. This

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 16>defense is saw no tackling, arm tackled. Nobody tackles the leg.

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 16>That guy's five foot seven to two oh five and

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 16>everybody's trying to try to tackle him on his up

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 16>by shoulder pad. Why didn't somebody game around his freaking legs? Stoppers?

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<v Speaker 11>It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>The two hundred and thirty third overall pick in the

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 3>draft out of Rutgers, Oh my gosh, what are the

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:46.879
<v Speaker 3>running backs doing there?

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:47.359
<v Speaker 12>Uh?

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Pacheco a seventh rounder in This guy managay, He's unbelievable,

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 3>twenty six carries one hundred and seventy six yards six

0:38:55.920 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 3>point eight a pop long game of thirty nine and gush.

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.840
<v Speaker 3>DeAndre Swift is uh is injured. This guy looks like

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<v Speaker 3>Barry Sanders.

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<v Speaker 16>Right, I mean, I don't know how bit I think.

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 16>I think since they've got the smallest scouting department, which

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 16>is part of the problem too. You can't constantly look

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.240
<v Speaker 16>at PFF and figure out who you need to be drafting.

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 16>You've got to be close to these guys. You've got

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 16>to know what they can do. You've got to know

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 16>how they really are. I mean, are you look back

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 16>at our drafting. Our drafting in the last ten years

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 16>has been pathetic. Outside of Higgins, Chase and Burrow, the

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 16>rest of them, I don't think I can name one

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 16>that's made an impact. You've got Miles Murphy, You've got

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 16>Jordan Battle, I can go Dack's Hill, I go for

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 16>them all. There's not a Pro Bowl option in there

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 16>at all. If I was starting his defense over, I'm

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 16>not sure I'd be able to hold any of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Agreed, I thought, yeah, And then then uh, you know

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 4>there's new UH flyers go out mail looking to solicit

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 4>new tickets for next year. Get prices has gone up,

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 4>and you know, uh someone told me that they had

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 4>called the uh the ticket's office about their the price

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:09.879
<v Speaker 4>of their tickets and they said, well, you guys want

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.319
<v Speaker 4>us to sign Jamar Chase and and Joe Burrow and

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.920
<v Speaker 4>t Higgins and uh and Hendricks. You know, where's the

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 4>money coming from. We gotta we gotta raise the prices,

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:21.359
<v Speaker 4>you know. And and that's the bottom line, you do.

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 4>But you know, at the same time, these guys that

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 4>aren't those four or five guys are are making a

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 4>lot of money.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they're not Type one.

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<v Speaker 4>I was watching a replay on the board because where

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 4>it was sitting, we had a good view of the

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 4>board that the pile was moving, you know, they running

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:36.279
<v Speaker 4>back in the scrum and.

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 5>He's moving and and Battle comes in.

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 4>He has a chance to take the legs of the

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 4>running back out and he like jumps into the pile

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 4>like he's a you know, jumping to the ball pit

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 4>at the boys r us instead of taking the legs out,

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:50.840
<v Speaker 4>knocking the whole pile down, and they got four or

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:51.880
<v Speaker 4>five more yards out of it.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, he just kept frustrating.

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Kept moving forward. He just kept moving forward, didn't he.

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<v Speaker 16>Oh but every since DJ Reider, you know, laugh, we've

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<v Speaker 16>got nobody in the middle that can move the defense

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:09.240
<v Speaker 16>of an offensive line. I mean those offensive line guys

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 16>for the last two weeks, I mean they're pushing us

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 16>back four yards. There's nobody hitting these running backs for

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 16>for a good six yards. You're right, they're gett hitting

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 16>them backfield.

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 4>They brought in a two guys in the last few

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 4>years that were run stuffers where they came from, and uh,

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 4>it's not helping they I mean they got the guy from.

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<v Speaker 2>The Packers, yeah, yeah.

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 4>And then they got the guy before that from the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 4>Big was it? U?

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 3>I think the Jags Jag Yeah, the Jags.

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<v Speaker 5>And and uh it hasn't helped so.

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<v Speaker 15>Well.

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<v Speaker 16>I mean, I mean, and they weren't great players. I

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 16>mean they were role players, you know at Green Bay.

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 16>And I mean, guess what I mean, we can't be picky.

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 16>But on the other hand, I don't think we're I

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 16>don't think we're we're not getting more out of these players.

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 16>I mean, it's one thing getting a player and be

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 16>able to coach them up. There's none a coaching up.

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 16>These guys are flatlined. You're getting negative.

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, getting coaches have to coach, you don't have to

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.760
<v Speaker 4>get more out of them. And if that's not happened,

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 4>there's disconnect.

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<v Speaker 5>I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 16>I totally agree.

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 14>We'll let you go.

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 16>I know there's a bunch of others that need to

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 16>be on the couch and talking about this with therapy,

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 16>you know. But I appreciate you guys taking my call back.

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<v Speaker 3>All right to exactly Steve guys, he loves his Virginia Cavaliers.

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:25.839
<v Speaker 5>How about that going on.

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<v Speaker 16>Break the top ten. We're gonna be there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, awesome, Say hi to your son for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate you, my friend. All right, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to take a break. We'll come back to

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<v Speaker 3>take your calls. You're listening to the Tri State Chevy

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<v Speaker 3>Dealer's post game Sports Talk presented by RNL carriers were

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Try States.

0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Sheevy Dealers post game Sports Talk presented RNL Carriers. This

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<v Speaker 3>is Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski and we are live

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<v Speaker 3>at the Wings and Rings in Oakley and we're breaking

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 3>down the bengals forty seven to forty two loss to

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<v Speaker 3>the Chicago Bears today. Well, Bruce, let's review the delivery

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<v Speaker 3>How about the forty four yard touchdown reception by the

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 3>incredible Chi Higgins.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't believe that was from my perspective. I thought

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 4>there's no way. And even if you listen to Flaco

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 4>in the post game, he says he just threw that

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.240
<v Speaker 4>ball up there because he had man coverage and he's

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 4>fully expected to be incomplete out of bounser or knocked down,

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 4>And sure enough he came down with them catch you.

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 4>We're right at the top of him. It was one

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<v Speaker 4>of the greatest catches you'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>It came just seventeen seconds after Cairo Santos's field goal,

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<v Speaker 3>the Bears a seventeen to thirteen lead, and here Higgins

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:07.720
<v Speaker 3>is with a buck twelve to go before halftime, forty

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<v Speaker 3>four yards.

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<v Speaker 2>The coverage was like draped all over him.

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 3>There was a flag on the play against the defense,

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:20.720
<v Speaker 3>and he went up and somehow caught that that football.

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<v Speaker 2>It kept going.

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<v Speaker 4>The second touchdown was just as good. The one he

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.479
<v Speaker 4>caught and rolled into the ends on that one side. Yes, yeah,

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 4>that's the one that they got in. The judge on

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 4>that side said it was down at the one yard mind,

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 4>that's exactly right. It's crazy. Yeah, what a day for Tea.

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<v Speaker 2>It really was.

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<v Speaker 3>And nine targets, seven catches for one hundred and twenty

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 3>one yards as seventeen point three yard average with that

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 3>long game of forty four touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody that caught the ball today had huge plays, you know.

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:50.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you don't throw the ball for four in

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 4>the seven yards and have a lot of big plays.

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 4>But you can't stop anybody. That's that's the problem. And

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 4>what's enough? How you you got to score every time

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 4>he had the ball. You feel like if you if

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 4>you have to punt, you throw on the game away.

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Both teams only punted one time. Incredible, but once again,

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:08.000
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<v Speaker 2>Let's go back out to the phones. We've got Mike

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 2>and Jerry Grove.

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<v Speaker 14>Mike, Hey, no need to rehash all the Uh yeah,

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 14>how you doing?

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 18>Uh?

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:30.399
<v Speaker 16>No need to rehead most of what happened out there

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:31.760
<v Speaker 16>because it's a broken record.

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 19>Couple things I saw that. I thought Orlando Brown was

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 19>an All Pro. He got knocked on his butt by

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:40.240
<v Speaker 19>a guy that's.

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 20>Smaller name on that stumble.

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<v Speaker 5>Two guys there, you think you'd.

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 19>Be pumped up you can't make the tackle.

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<v Speaker 14>But real quick, a couple of things.

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:50.799
<v Speaker 10>You can tell me what you.

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 19>Think the off side on the missfield goal. That guy's

0:45:56.520 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 19>head was almost completely across the line. Don't can't they

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 19>tell when they're lined up off side?

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:04.879
<v Speaker 14>They couldn't believe that?

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:10.399
<v Speaker 19>DJ Yes, another thing, I hope I don't hear any

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 19>more talk about Burrow coming back because.

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 14>There's no need for that.

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 11>And I'm looking at.

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<v Speaker 19>The schedule and you think it's bad, now, it's gonna

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 19>get worse. The Steelers, they'll kill them. I think the

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:26.760
<v Speaker 19>pages in them. But then they got the Ravens, Bills Ravens,

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 19>those guys are licking their chopped You you talk about yardage, now.

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 16>Wait till they play those guys.

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<v Speaker 19>I don't think they can win another game unless it's

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.800
<v Speaker 19>trash games at the end of the year. Maybe maybe

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 19>the Cardinals, maybe the Browns.

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 6>But good season's toast.

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 19>There's not too much reason to talk about anymore unless

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:47.080
<v Speaker 19>you just like pain. Thanks a lot, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we're Cincinnati fans.

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 12>Man.

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:53.799
<v Speaker 2>We have endured our share.

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 5>We are resilient. We are resilient.

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 4>And you know, if you come down to the stadium

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 4>to watch offense, you know, Joe Joe Flacko and the

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 4>boys have given us offense. Yeah, I think it's a

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 4>it's a great opportunity. Now the defense has improved. We

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 4>can go through that over and over and over. Ornando

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 4>Brown has had a tough, tough goal over lately and

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 4>and he needs to play better. And and that was

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:17.279
<v Speaker 4>a frustration that like probably calls that fight. You know,

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 4>he got bold rushed in the cause of fumble and uh,

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 4>the next play got pressured. And you know, he's got

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 4>a prize. He's a prideful guy. He's had a great history.

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:28.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's going on with his technique or

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 4>or what, but he's obviously working hard.

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 5>But it's not painting out.

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Hey, do we have Tenny in Westchester.

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 14>Thanks for taking my call.

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 5>So here's my point.

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 21>I am waiting for Zach to be honest in his

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 21>press conference after a game like this one and say

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.360
<v Speaker 21>the defense sucks.

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:00.720
<v Speaker 6>They are horrible. They can't tackle.

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 21>I mean that last take it down to you know,

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:10.360
<v Speaker 21>I give all the credit to our special teams and

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 21>the offense Joe Flacco.

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:13.720
<v Speaker 5>God blessed Joe Flacco.

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 21>They got them in the position to win this game

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:20.279
<v Speaker 21>at the end of the end of the game. And

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 21>what happened. They get down to the end of the

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:30.880
<v Speaker 21>game and they're that final pass play by the Bears

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:34.320
<v Speaker 21>and there had to be at least three Bengals around

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:36.919
<v Speaker 21>that dude, and none of them can tackle that guy.

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 21>Are you kidding me? I mean the tackling on this

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:43.720
<v Speaker 21>team is terrible. It's terrible.

0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:47.719
<v Speaker 4>Now, well, I think on the first thing about Zach,

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.000
<v Speaker 4>he can come out and say I mean, some coaches

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:54.359
<v Speaker 4>will come right out and say it publicly. Uh, He's

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:57.400
<v Speaker 4>he's a player's coach, and he's he's not going to

0:48:57.520 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 4>dress people down in public. What he says behind the scenes,

0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 4>we don't know. And I think I think that's his

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:07.759
<v Speaker 4>way of handling this type of thing. But it's gonna

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 4>come down on him, you know, that's the bottom line.

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 4>It's gonna come down on the head coach and his

0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:15.719
<v Speaker 4>assistance if something doesn't change quickly. And then as good

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 4>as they are offensively and as good as an offense

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 4>can play. Obviously, Joe Burrow is a big loss, but

0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 4>Flacco is outperforming all expectations. And where would this team

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 4>be without Joe Flacco? These games wouldn't be close, you know,

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:34.000
<v Speaker 4>in terms of playing these opponents, the Steelers and the Ravens.

0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:36.760
<v Speaker 4>Their defense hasn't been a whole lot better than ours.

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 4>They've just got some good triggerment on the other Sideble.

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's incredible, yeahs old.

0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 21>And he's playing this game on an injury, a painful injury,

0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:57.320
<v Speaker 21>and what he threw for damn near five hundred yards offense?

0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 12>Are you kidding me?

0:49:58.920 --> 0:49:59.359
<v Speaker 5>Yep? Yeah?

0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 4>And then and then, and that's that's part of the

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 4>problem is is as good as he is throwing from

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:06.839
<v Speaker 4>the pocket, he's not a mobile guy. And so when

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 4>you're a pass rusher, you're coming after the quarterback. You

0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:11.239
<v Speaker 4>know where Joe's gonna be, you know, And and so

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 4>that makes everybody's on the offensive line's job more difficult

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 4>because you know where the guy is. He's gonna throw

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:19.920
<v Speaker 4>it quick. He's gonna get it to the open receiver

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 4>if he has time, and they just there were times

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 4>they didn't give him any time.

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:32.440
<v Speaker 21>He blew to this game. They lost this game. Everybody

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 21>on the defense needs to pay Joe Flacco like one

0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:39.960
<v Speaker 21>hundred grand out of their pay because the way he

0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:44.680
<v Speaker 21>played this game and they lost this game for his effort.

0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:45.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Slather repeat right and appreciate the call there, Thank you

0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 3>very much. And gosh, look at a Caleb Williams here.

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:58.320
<v Speaker 3>He was the elusive butterfly. Five rushes fifty three yards,

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 3>that's ten point six yards six per Okay, he was

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 3>twenty of thirty four throwing for two hundred and eighty yards.

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:09.319
<v Speaker 3>He was sacked twice, three touchdowns, including the long game

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:15.640
<v Speaker 3>on the final fifty eight yarder, and he caught two passes.

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:18.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's rare. That's a rare combination.

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:22.319
<v Speaker 3>Just incredible for twenty two yards and a touchdown.

0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 4>And watching and watching the game. Though he wasn't sitting

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:26.799
<v Speaker 4>in the pocket, the defense, the line got a lot

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:29.360
<v Speaker 4>of pressure. They forced him to scramble all over the place,

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 4>but they never were able to get him on the

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:36.920
<v Speaker 4>ground or take away his vision from the downfield, and

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:39.640
<v Speaker 4>so as he scrambled around a lot more time and

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 4>then you can't cover anybody for eight seconds. Actually in

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:47.640
<v Speaker 4>any league. Absolutely you got pressure that forced him to scramble,

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:51.239
<v Speaker 4>and that that's a no go. You got to keep

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:53.840
<v Speaker 4>him in the pocket. You get no pressure. He stands

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 4>around there and looks. So something has to change in

0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:58.840
<v Speaker 4>the scheme of things that we go after him more.

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 4>You know, Hendrickson back, who knows. But in the next

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 4>two weeks, they got two weeks to fix the problem.

0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:10.279
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<v Speaker 3>seven to forty two loss to the Chicago Bears lack

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<v Speaker 3>Five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand, one eight hundred,

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<v Speaker 3>the Big One.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the place to vent.

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:26.960
<v Speaker 3>And Bruce and I are talking off the air about

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:31.440
<v Speaker 3>all the different disastrous games. The Bengals lost to the

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:34.880
<v Speaker 3>San Francisco forty nine ers trying to run out the cruise,

0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:38.480
<v Speaker 3>and that Eric Thomas gets lit up by Jerry Rice.

0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:44.760
<v Speaker 3>And then we launched Brett Farve's career in Green Bay. Gosh,

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Carl Pickens runs back a punt for a touchdown his

0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 3>rookie year. They knocked on Mkowski out of the game,

0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:54.640
<v Speaker 3>and on comes this second year dude who got traded

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:58.560
<v Speaker 3>from Atlanta in the offseason, Brett Favre, and he throws

0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 3>the touchdown pass to Kitch Taylor in the final minute.

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:03.920
<v Speaker 5>I've been there, I've been there, done that.

0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:07.359
<v Speaker 2>And then the Kansas City game, Oh my gosh.

0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 5>It just you're crazy. Denver in Cincinnati, Denver and Cincinnati.

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Leon Hall bats the ball but he goes up in

0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:16.279
<v Speaker 3>the air and the Denver receiver grabs it right after

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Cedric Benson scored a touchdown, and the dude goes like

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:23.920
<v Speaker 3>with nobody else left, nobody, nobody's there, tips it up

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:27.840
<v Speaker 3>seventy yards seventy yards and he kind of walks along

0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:30.680
<v Speaker 3>the one yard line to burn some more clock and

0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:32.880
<v Speaker 3>then steps into the end zone and just like that,

0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:37.960
<v Speaker 3>you're shocked. So the Bengals masters of disasters today was

0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 3>another one.

0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 2>How can you give up forty seven points?

0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:48.720
<v Speaker 4>Well, just come to Cincinnati. It's it's it's it's really,

0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:52.359
<v Speaker 4>it's really a shame. I don't doubt these guys are

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:55.959
<v Speaker 4>giving it what they got, but they're what they got

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:59.799
<v Speaker 4>is not good enough. They're not tackling well enough. And

0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:02.880
<v Speaker 4>again it's not just a recent issue. It's been the

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:06.520
<v Speaker 4>whole progressive season, and we just it sticks out now

0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:08.479
<v Speaker 4>that you're scoring so many points, to score eighty points

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:10.840
<v Speaker 4>in two weeks and still still lose both games.

0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:14.279
<v Speaker 3>And my partner here, Bruce Kazerski, he talked about it

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 3>when he first came into the store tonight that the

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Bengals had a defensive meeting, so you knew they were

0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:23.840
<v Speaker 3>gonna come out and showed great energy. They're running around,

0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:27.440
<v Speaker 3>they're flying around, and what does Caleb Williams do? He

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 3>takes advantage of their aggressiveness. They are running the Bengals

0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 3>every which way but loose double pass throw back. Oh,

0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Caleb Williams catches a touchdown?

0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:39.960
<v Speaker 5>Will he catches two passes today?

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's playing too.

0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:45.720
<v Speaker 5>They took advantage of our meeting.

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, took advantage of yes, yes.

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:51.000
<v Speaker 5>You gotta.

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.520
<v Speaker 4>They came out flying and the defense was flying. They

0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:56.200
<v Speaker 4>were gonna make plays at all the best intentions, and

0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 4>then they took advantage of us slowed us down. And

0:56:59.160 --> 0:57:01.280
<v Speaker 4>then you see the same over again. Once they slowed

0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 4>us down. You see the same thing over and over

0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:03.879
<v Speaker 4>and over.

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, let's highlight the drive of the game. Bruce, brought

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:10.480
<v Speaker 3>to you by the BMW Store. They're over three hundred

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 3>and fifty BMW centers in the United States, but there's

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:18.560
<v Speaker 3>only one store, the BMW Store where Passion loves Company. Well,

0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:24.480
<v Speaker 3>how about right after the on sidekick recovery, the Bengals

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:29.560
<v Speaker 3>drive six plays fifty seven yards. It only took forty

0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 3>nine seconds and Joe Flacco, whoop, not your touchdown? Passed

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 3>to Andre Joseavash and then the extra point by Evan McPherson,

0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 3>giving the Bengals a forty two to forty one lead

0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 3>with fifty four.

0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Seconds to go.

0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be a miracle win, No, and then it wasn't.

0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:51.880
<v Speaker 5>That's what I said at that point.

0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:56.600
<v Speaker 4>If they'd only been down by two points, they will

0:57:56.680 --> 0:57:59.040
<v Speaker 4>have taken all that time off the clock and sell

0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 4>it for a field goal to win the game. But

0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 4>you can't do that when you're down a touchdown. You

0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:07.840
<v Speaker 4>gotta score when you can. Big play, big play, what

0:58:08.080 --> 0:58:11.880
<v Speaker 4>little plays, big play, whatever it is. And we left

0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:14.960
<v Speaker 4>fifty seven seconds or so on o'clock and that was

0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:15.400
<v Speaker 4>too many.

0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:16.600
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right.

0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:17.200
<v Speaker 10>And uh.

0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:22.400
<v Speaker 3>Colston Loveland from the University of Michigan, a rookie, he

0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:27.920
<v Speaker 3>has a career day, and it happens against the Cincinnati Bengals.

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:33.280
<v Speaker 3>We're becoming like everyone's home coming. That's what it's starting

0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:33.840
<v Speaker 3>to feel like.

0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:36.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm looking up Cole Comett. He had a field day

0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:37.320
<v Speaker 5>as well.

0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Colston Loveland seven targets, six catches, one hundred and eighteen

0:58:42.640 --> 0:58:49.040
<v Speaker 3>yards nineteen point seven per two touchdowns, including the long

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 3>of fifty eight yards, and once again, Bruce Kazerski.

0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 2>The Bengals get burned and murdered by a tight end.

0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:02.200
<v Speaker 4>Awful Cole Commet he had an It only said one here.

0:59:02.280 --> 0:59:04.280
<v Speaker 4>I thought he had several big ones. It was the

0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:10.280
<v Speaker 4>other guy. Yeah, yeah, Colston love one and just yet brutal.

0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:13.360
<v Speaker 4>You know you're taking away from receivers. I get it,

0:59:13.440 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 4>but that tight end is another in this league, tight

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:18.040
<v Speaker 4>ends are great receivers and you got to find a

0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:20.720
<v Speaker 4>way to handle that. They're bigger fellas, so maybe they

0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:22.560
<v Speaker 4>don't want to hit him. I don't know, but but

0:59:22.680 --> 0:59:24.760
<v Speaker 4>this this is just not going to get we get

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:26.840
<v Speaker 4>it done, and it's is it more and more discipin

0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:29.440
<v Speaker 4>this morning every week and the fans leave more and

0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:32.160
<v Speaker 4>more frustrated every week, and you know, it's just it's

0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:33.240
<v Speaker 4>just not good for business.

0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Let's go out to the phones.

0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Is Aaron from Greenville still with us?

0:59:40.240 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 22>Hi, guys, it's good to good to talk with you tonight.

0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:45.640
<v Speaker 22>Always good to be on with chicken, Bruce. I want

0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:47.520
<v Speaker 22>to start with one thing. First off, we need to

0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:49.360
<v Speaker 22>get Jim breaching in the Ring of Honor. He's a

0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:53.560
<v Speaker 22>he's one of the brigals, legends. Always always good to

0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:56.320
<v Speaker 22>hear him when he's on the postgame show. But the

0:59:56.720 --> 1:00:00.240
<v Speaker 22>unfortunate part about the last two weeks is this what

1:00:00.280 --> 1:00:03.000
<v Speaker 22>we've signed up for. You know, We've we've invested a

1:00:03.040 --> 1:00:06.560
<v Speaker 22>ton of our cap space into offense and have no

1:00:06.680 --> 1:00:10.640
<v Speaker 22>cap space to put into any defensive players. And we're

1:00:10.640 --> 1:00:12.800
<v Speaker 22>playing a bunch of young guys. I mean today, I'm

1:00:13.000 --> 1:00:15.040
<v Speaker 22>I'm at the game today as a season ticket holder,

1:00:15.120 --> 1:00:18.280
<v Speaker 22>and we're looking up on the Bengals roster some of

1:00:18.320 --> 1:00:21.360
<v Speaker 22>the defensive guys that are on the field. So our

1:00:21.360 --> 1:00:24.360
<v Speaker 22>inability to tackle is a direct reflection of our inability

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<v Speaker 22>to pay defensive players.

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<v Speaker 4>Completely agree, There's there's a lot of money and invested

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<v Speaker 4>in a handful of guys, and uh, I mean, these

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<v Speaker 4>other guys aren't making chump change. Don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh they were. They were drafted to play defense in

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL, and that means they must be pretty good

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<v Speaker 4>and they're just not tackling right now.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't matter whether minim.

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<v Speaker 22>Yeah, I agree with that completely, But when when when

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<v Speaker 22>you've got you when you have the opportunity to buy

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<v Speaker 22>a paid you know, a proven commodity that you've seen

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<v Speaker 22>prove themselves in the NFL, versus that risk of the draft.

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<v Speaker 22>You know, the draft is always a risk when you're

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<v Speaker 22>when when you're drafting guys, you never really know if

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<v Speaker 22>they're going to be a quality NFL player. And you

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<v Speaker 22>know what, let's go to Logan Wilson for for for

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<v Speaker 22>three years, he's as good as a linebacker as we've got,

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<v Speaker 22>and here recently he can't tackle, you know, and he's

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<v Speaker 22>he's one of the guys we've invested money in. Orlando

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<v Speaker 22>Brown today was it was embarrassing to watch some of

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<v Speaker 22>those defensive those defensive ends push him around. I mean,

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<v Speaker 22>that's that's that guy was supposed to be an answer

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<v Speaker 22>we've got. We've got sixteen million dollars invested in in

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<v Speaker 22>a in a left tackle that gets thrown around like

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<v Speaker 22>a rag doll. He's getting used as a weapon, he's

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<v Speaker 22>getting thrown on our quarterback. At what point? At what

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<v Speaker 22>point do we start talking about we've invested too much

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<v Speaker 22>money in an offense that scores a bunch of points.

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<v Speaker 22>It's fun to look at It's like buying a Ferrari

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<v Speaker 22>but not really looking under the hood to see if

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<v Speaker 22>it's got any of the part that are going to

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<v Speaker 22>win win the game and and our defensively, we we

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<v Speaker 22>scored eighty points in two weeks, and we were walking

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<v Speaker 22>away of that stadium disappointed both weeks because we can't

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<v Speaker 22>stop anybody. Jamar Chase said it in the locker or

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<v Speaker 22>in the hallway walking out today. One Efen he actually

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<v Speaker 22>said the word, but one Efen stopped. We didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, our offense is a ferrari. Our defense is a galope.

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<v Speaker 5>It's that that.

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<v Speaker 22>Galope, whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that was that was important to negotiate a

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<v Speaker 4>part of it. Everybody's everybody's wanting Jamar and t and

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<v Speaker 4>and Joe and and uh, all these guys under big

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<v Speaker 4>buck contracts. They wanted to stay in town. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>just the way the league is structured anymore, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But but you know, you got to find some money

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<v Speaker 4>for the defensive side of the ball. The revenue sharing

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<v Speaker 4>eye and I don't know what the what the salary

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<v Speaker 4>cap is and how it's going to affect us the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of the way. But like you said, Orlando Brown's

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<v Speaker 4>having a bad couple of weeks here, if not more,

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<v Speaker 4>and something's got to change. He's a guy that was

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<v Speaker 4>brought in here to solve problems. And uh right now

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<v Speaker 4>that that's that's a lot of the that's the best

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<v Speaker 4>pass rushers on that side.

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<v Speaker 5>He was here and here's brought here to solve.

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<v Speaker 2>It and Aaron, we got to run. Appreciate the call.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much, appreciated, Thank you. Thank You're listening

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<v Speaker 3>to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented

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<v Speaker 3>Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. This is Jick Ludwig.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm alongside my good friend and Bengals legend Bruce Kozerski,

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go out to the phones. We got is this.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill and Dayton?

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, that's me, thanks guys. All right, Bill, Bill's a

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<v Speaker 20>burn building on an earlier caller, how about we and

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<v Speaker 20>the defense from posing and flexing and performing on plays

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<v Speaker 20>five thousand dollars per occurrence until after their next win.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you love it when a guy makes a play

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<v Speaker 3>and they pose and then they get burned on the

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<v Speaker 3>next play. Yeah, it's the game.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, show some colass and play the game. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 20>all I got to think.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, all right, appreciate it. Jeff is in Dayton, the

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<v Speaker 3>Jem City. Hi, Jeff, Okay, we've got Brooks in Southern Illinois.

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, thanks thanking my call.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, sir, family, I've had a long time with her.

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<v Speaker 14>And my falls when I was in high school on

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<v Speaker 14>forts Pump Trump.

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<v Speaker 7>Love.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Brooks, you're up.

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<v Speaker 3>You're fading in and out, but you're exactly right. Bob

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<v Speaker 3>Trumpy the Godfather, Okay. I got to interview him several

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<v Speaker 3>times over the years. Loved him, absolutely loved him, and

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<v Speaker 3>he had an edge to him, but man, the kindest heart,

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<v Speaker 3>he really did. And he told just the greatest story

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<v Speaker 3>about training camp. How Paul Brown had air conditioning in

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<v Speaker 3>his room and Bob was able to secure what he

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<v Speaker 3>called an air cooler and he was busted, but he

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<v Speaker 3>was able to say, it's not an air conditioner, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a air cooler that he got out of an addict

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<v Speaker 3>from a woman's house that he knew, and just just

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<v Speaker 3>awesome stuff. And he was a tight end, but a

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<v Speaker 3>wide receiver. The dude could flank out. He had unbelievable

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<v Speaker 3>speed and just a tremendous all around player. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>early on in his career, I mean, Paul Is bringing

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<v Speaker 3>players in left and right, flying them in, uh, working

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<v Speaker 3>them out in Wilmington, giving him a bus ticket back

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<v Speaker 3>to the airport. And man, the odds of Bob Trump

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<v Speaker 3>he making it were minimal, and man, he convinced them.

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<v Speaker 3>And then as a broadcaster, gosh, nobody better, nobody better.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in the he's an enshrined in Canton.

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<v Speaker 3>The Pro Football Hall of Fame as a broadcaster for

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>And just what a voice and what knowledge.

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<v Speaker 23>Absolutely can you hear me any better?

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<v Speaker 5>Now? Yes?

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<v Speaker 23>Yes, okay, I've got a follow up question though about

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<v Speaker 23>the current day Bengals.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 23>I like Bruce's analysis. So obviously the defense is our

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<v Speaker 23>major problem. As we all know, I can't tackle, we

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<v Speaker 23>can't get after the passer much. I can't get off

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<v Speaker 23>the field on third down. You know everything, but there's

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<v Speaker 23>one thing at the top of the list that the

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<v Speaker 23>Steelers used against us, that the Jets used against this,

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<v Speaker 23>that this game today was used against this, and that

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<v Speaker 23>is simply defending the off tackle run to the right side,

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<v Speaker 23>especially either the B gap or the C gap, either one.

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<v Speaker 23>If they ran at one hundred times, they're going to

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<v Speaker 23>get positive yards ninety nine times out of one hundred,

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<v Speaker 23>and most of the time it's ten yards. So can

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<v Speaker 23>you explain to us, Bruce, what is going on why

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<v Speaker 23>we cannot defend that play?

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<v Speaker 4>I had I had a very similar first thought when

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<v Speaker 4>I when I was sitting out there watching the game today.

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<v Speaker 4>They seem to be running so much to the offensive

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<v Speaker 4>right side to our defensive left side.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, when you game plan.

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<v Speaker 4>You scheme things up, you you kind of have your

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<v Speaker 4>favorite places to run. You not only is it your

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<v Speaker 4>matchups because of who you have playing on your right side,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's also maybe the defense of who they have

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<v Speaker 4>playing on their left side. And it might be that

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<v Speaker 4>you really favor the matchup the last few weeks or

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<v Speaker 4>the last three weeks, and you're seeing the same kind

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<v Speaker 4>of result every every week, week in and week out.

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<v Speaker 5>Today that that.

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<v Speaker 4>First year player average seven yards of carried almost on

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<v Speaker 4>the same type of same type of play.

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<v Speaker 5>And again, yeah, you know what's coming.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sitting up there in the first row of the club.

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<v Speaker 4>If they're thinking here it comes again, they gotta know

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<v Speaker 4>what's coming.

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<v Speaker 11>Seven.

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<v Speaker 14>One other follow up, one other follow up.

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<v Speaker 23>There to that last week after the Jets game, you

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<v Speaker 23>mentioned that they would come out and be overloaded, uh,

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<v Speaker 23>to one side, and it looked like we didn't adjust

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<v Speaker 23>to that.

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<v Speaker 4>They overloaded their formation, they brought another offensive lineman or

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<v Speaker 4>they put two extra tight ends on that side, and

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't adjust.

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<v Speaker 23>Did they do that again today and not adjust?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 23>Well then, I mean this is not this is like

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<v Speaker 23>football one on one. I mean, what's the problem there

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<v Speaker 23>On the defensive coaching side.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you I guess they played on filling those holes

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<v Speaker 4>with the linebackers and safeties.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean we look at all that.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's not the safety. The safety led the team

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<v Speaker 4>in tackles.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>But all the dbs hit all the tackles and that

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<v Speaker 3>tells you right there they were busted through the line, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, they're in the second level before you can blink.

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<v Speaker 23>That's right the second and they're getting blown off the

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<v Speaker 23>line of scrimmage too. It seems like our defensive tackles

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<v Speaker 23>aren't really helping us much. I don't think crazy, I

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<v Speaker 23>don't know, Brooks.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to run. We've reached the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 3>hour break. Thank you so much. Hey, you're to the

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<v Speaker 3>Tri State Chevy Dealers post game Sports Talk presented by

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<v Speaker 3>RNL Carriers. He's Bruce Kazerski. This is Chick Ludwig. We're

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<v Speaker 3>live in Wings and Rings in Oakley until eight thirty

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<v Speaker 3>tonight on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports

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<v Speaker 3>Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We're live at the Wings

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<v Speaker 3>and Rings in Oakley Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking Bengals football. They fall today forty seven to

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<v Speaker 3>forty two to the Chicago Bears, so close to a

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<v Speaker 3>miracle win to come back from fourteen down, outscoring Chicago

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen zero in a matter of forty nine seconds, but

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<v Speaker 3>they left enough time fifty four seconds left and Colston

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<v Speaker 3>Loveland hauls in a fifty eight yard pass from Caleb

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<v Speaker 3>Williams and two guys right there they bounce off of him.

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<v Speaker 4>They need that block tackle. Instead of wrapping them up,

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<v Speaker 4>they just block. You know, you give him to make him,

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<v Speaker 4>make him make a field goal from there for crying out.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, absolutely, it just it hurts.

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<v Speaker 3>And I finally got to see the final play because

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<v Speaker 3>heck we're driving, you know, I'm driving to get here

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<v Speaker 3>to Oakley and listening at the at the very end.

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<v Speaker 3>So hey, do we have John in Cedarville still with us?

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<v Speaker 14>Hello?

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, John, Yeah, John, go ahead, we'll be recorded good evening.

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<v Speaker 11>Uh, rooms and get.

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<v Speaker 5>Good evening, can you hear me? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? What's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 11>Hey listen? I just want to start off again another week,

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<v Speaker 11>h Boker can't run without his feet and and then

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<v Speaker 11>again you start off the game with a with with

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<v Speaker 11>a run back. You're up seven nothing top the press

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<v Speaker 11>out board is your defense? You know, seven nothing's enough

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<v Speaker 11>to win the ball game. Oh you got to just

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<v Speaker 11>go out and play defense, rest away and maybe shut

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<v Speaker 11>him out. Then you go home with a victory.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah later yeah, yes, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 11>Then you got you got you got Flacoh he may

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<v Speaker 11>just see the NFL Comeback Player of the Year this

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<v Speaker 11>this season, and he's being overshadowed by a bad defense.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, come on, some guy's got to pick it

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<v Speaker 11>up if it I mean here and you look at

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<v Speaker 11>the rest of the schedule. I mean, you're either gonna

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<v Speaker 11>lay them either they're gonna lay you out. But there's

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<v Speaker 11>nothing intimidating left on that dag on schedule the rest

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<v Speaker 11>of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, the Baltimore Ravens are getting healthy, John. The Baltimore

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<v Speaker 3>Ravens now have Lamar Jackson back, so they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>The Pittsburgh Steelers are waiting.

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<v Speaker 3>They're waiting for the Bengals in a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>And John, Hey, appreciate the call. You call us every week.

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<v Speaker 3>We thank you. We've got to move on. Appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Austin Bob Trumpy real quick.

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<v Speaker 11>I just want to say prayers to his family and

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<v Speaker 11>and thank you Bob Trumpy for taking my first call

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<v Speaker 11>to WLW Sports Talks mat before Chris Collins took over.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely appreciate that. Thank you very much. Hey, We've got

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<v Speaker 3>Mike in La. Mike, welcome back to seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. We love you.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, you Chip don Donah Scottie May reincarnated.

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<v Speaker 3>I see La, and all I can think of is

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<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers beating Toronto.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh.

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<v Speaker 14>I didn't want to lead off with it, but man,

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<v Speaker 14>I'm still in seventh freaking heaven. Brother, that's the best

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<v Speaker 14>world series. That's the best world series we've had in

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<v Speaker 14>many years.

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<v Speaker 2>And what were you thinking?

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<v Speaker 3>What were you thinking when pa Has basically slams into

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<v Speaker 3>t k Hernandez It makes that catch.

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<v Speaker 14>Unbelievable because Kek can always get it done, but pa

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<v Speaker 14>Has is a gold glover. No, I was freaking out.

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<v Speaker 14>I was most my pants.

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest with you, Well, I didn't see who

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<v Speaker 3>was named the MVP, but in my mind Yoshi Yama Moto.

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<v Speaker 3>That dude was a absolute beast.

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<v Speaker 14>That was the MVP, and well, well well deserved. But

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<v Speaker 14>if it wasn't for our starting pitchers, we'd have never

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<v Speaker 14>won that damn thing. So thank God for those fellows

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<v Speaker 14>because we sure as hell couldn't hit. But I'm glad

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<v Speaker 14>you brought it up because I still have a smile

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<v Speaker 14>on my face. But it's somewhat diminish with the passing

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<v Speaker 14>a Trump. You know, people don't realize this guy was

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<v Speaker 14>a tremendous golf analyst on NBC for years.

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<v Speaker 16>Oh and thank the football, football football.

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<v Speaker 14>But like like he was saying earlier, Trump, Trump was

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<v Speaker 14>very intelligent man, very intelligent man.

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<v Speaker 3>And wepics for crying out loud. The guy was so

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<v Speaker 3>versatile for for NBC.

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<v Speaker 2>It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>I did his homework. He was always prepared.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, yes, was he was around before you, right cause.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes he was. He was doing radio in Cincinnati when

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<v Speaker 4>I got here.

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<v Speaker 14>Okay, well, yeah, I just want prayers out to his family.

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<v Speaker 14>God love them. But I'm looking at the rest of

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<v Speaker 14>this Bengal schedule, Fellas Heelers on the road after the

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<v Speaker 14>buy Patriots at home, Ravens on the road, Bills on

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<v Speaker 14>the road, Ravens at home, Dolphins there. You might win

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<v Speaker 14>that one. Cards. I don't know if they can beat

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<v Speaker 14>Arizona and then the Browns, who knows. I don't see

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<v Speaker 14>many more wins, guys. I'm just sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I agree with you, and I think the

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<v Speaker 3>line went to six and a half, you know, over

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<v Speaker 3>under six and a half. I'm not picking them to

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<v Speaker 3>win seven games, not the way they're playing now.

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<v Speaker 4>No, Well, it's the NFL, everybody, everybody on any given

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<v Speaker 4>Sunday can win, and we've proven that we have the

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<v Speaker 4>ability to lose, and even when we score forty two points,

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<v Speaker 4>which should not happen.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's happened twice.

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<v Speaker 14>Because with your Harold background and the great offensive lines

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<v Speaker 14>you played with, how and then I know you got

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<v Speaker 14>to go. How do you explain how things have kind

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<v Speaker 14>of diminished with our drafting capabilities, our development capabilities. Do

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<v Speaker 14>you have any insight into that?

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<v Speaker 4>Cause, well, my offensive line, Anthony Munos was the only

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<v Speaker 4>first round pick on it. We had two six to

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<v Speaker 4>seven and I was a nine across the board. They

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<v Speaker 4>don't even have they don't have that many many rounds anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>But the coaches, it was a coaching They brought us

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<v Speaker 4>along and made us players and made us play together.

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<v Speaker 4>And we were healthy enough, fortunate enough to stay healthy

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<v Speaker 4>for the entire period of time. And you know, these

1:17:38.200 --> 1:17:41.960
<v Speaker 4>guys are transient because of the free agency markets and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>They move in and out and it's hard to get

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<v Speaker 4>that cohesiveness. And we seem to be playing much much

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<v Speaker 4>better as an offensive line. But right now, defensively, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we couldn't tackle our way. You know, out of the box.

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<v Speaker 18>Right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Was the best, the best. Jim was the best line

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<v Speaker 5>coach in this football absolutely.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean I'm I'm a native Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 10>And born and raced and proud of it.

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<v Speaker 14>But I've been in California for a long long time

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<v Speaker 14>after Vietnam. But how do you Oh gosh, I always

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<v Speaker 14>do this. I've lost my train of thought. I'm sorry, guys,

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<v Speaker 14>thanks for the time. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate appreciate it. Mike, Yeah, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>You just well, Scott Peters was doing doing a heck

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<v Speaker 4>of a job because these guys. When the season started,

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<v Speaker 4>it was a nightmare. You watched Joe Burrow run for

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<v Speaker 4>his life until he finally got hurt.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the first week that Flacca was in here,

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't a whole lot better. But all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 4>now we're running the ball, we're able to pass protect

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<v Speaker 4>most of the time, and sometimes we've got to get

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<v Speaker 4>some help. I don't know what happened with Orlando today

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<v Speaker 4>because he didn't do that last week or the week

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<v Speaker 4>before early in the season. Yes, it could be the matchup,

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<v Speaker 4>could be that that player happened to have his number

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure, but I know it has been better,

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<v Speaker 4>and I we give a lot of respect to Scott

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<v Speaker 4>Peters from his ability to get that out of those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Something has to happen on the other side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Though it's not the offensive uh collapse in the last

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<v Speaker 4>few weeks. It's the defensive collapse. And you know that

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<v Speaker 4>somehow the coach has got to get more out of them,

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<v Speaker 4>and and and and scheme and whether it's schematic ley

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<v Speaker 4>or or what, because there there's not not ugh not

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<v Speaker 4>not enough success on that side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>I can back to.

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<v Speaker 3>One p one punt, one punt. I could just hear

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<v Speaker 3>former defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer. You know, four guys and

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<v Speaker 3>then the linebackers fill.

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<v Speaker 2>The gas and.

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<v Speaker 5>They're gaping holes.

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<v Speaker 2>You saw what Manangae did today.

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<v Speaker 4>They're running the stretch plays just so everybody knows they're

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<v Speaker 4>running a stretch play, so they're they're getting a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of lateral movement, and all they gotta do is get

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<v Speaker 4>one guy out of his own one guy not clean

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<v Speaker 4>in his in the proper hole, and there's a there's

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<v Speaker 4>a hole there for the running back to get through.

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<v Speaker 4>And then these guys are so powerful, it's difficult to

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<v Speaker 4>make arm tackles.

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<v Speaker 5>You gotta let what to them.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta shoulder pads and helmet down on there and

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<v Speaker 4>get and get physical. And and I think sometimes we're reaching,

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<v Speaker 4>especially on it's a safety coming down or a cornerback

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<v Speaker 4>having to come up. I watched them run a jet

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<v Speaker 4>sweep today, and you can see the motion coming. The

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<v Speaker 4>defensive end on the other side of the ball is

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<v Speaker 4>standing up. He has to see it coming. And yet

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<v Speaker 4>he did not widen a split second, not a foot.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you're seeing the ball coming at you, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't widen the foot, and before you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>the ball's around you, like you're surprised.

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<v Speaker 3>Just crazy. You're right and off to the races. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what this was today. It was back and forth,

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<v Speaker 3>nine lead changes, over one thousand yards of total offense.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking the team that has the ball last is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna win. And less than a minute to go, I

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<v Speaker 3>tell you, the ball that bears.

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<v Speaker 4>The Bears are going home wondering what the heck happened

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<v Speaker 4>to their defense too, Yes, you know, and and and

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<v Speaker 4>they're trying to figure out solve some problems because they're

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna win a lot of games playing like they did. Uh, defensively,

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<v Speaker 4>but you outscore somebody, you score forty seven points. I

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<v Speaker 4>guess that's the number. It's not thirty nine, thirty eight,

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<v Speaker 4>it's forty seven, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were celebrating with a fourteen point lead and

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<v Speaker 3>the ball and with like five and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Minutes to go, and it was a little too early.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it really was.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Hey, we've got to take another break. You're

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<v Speaker 3>listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 3>presented by RNL carriers at Wings and Rings and Oakley

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<v Speaker 3>seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Welcome back

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<v Speaker 3>to the Tri States Chevy Dealers Postgames Sports Talk presented

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<v Speaker 3>by RNL Carriers with your host Chick Ludwig and Bruce

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<v Speaker 3>Kazerski talking Bengals football. They fall forty seven to forty

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<v Speaker 3>two to the Chicago Bears after last week's thirty nine

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<v Speaker 3>to thirty eight loss at home to the Jets.

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<v Speaker 2>You just cannot lose home games like this, Bruce.

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<v Speaker 3>And let's check the Guilty Windows Window of Opportunity brought

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<v Speaker 3>to you by Guilty Windows. The key to quality windows

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<v Speaker 3>is trusting the pros guilty windows.

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<v Speaker 2>Well after Noah Fant catches.

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<v Speaker 3>A twenty three yard pass from Joe Flacco, pulling the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 3>and the two point conversion to t Higgins pulling the

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<v Speaker 3>Bengals within forty one to thirty five with a minute

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<v Speaker 3>forty three to go. It came down to definitely kneading

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<v Speaker 3>the on side kick conversion.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Bengals got it.

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<v Speaker 5>They got it.

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<v Speaker 3>The ball did not go ten yards, but it hit

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<v Speaker 3>the ankle in the foot of a Chicago Bear and

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<v Speaker 3>the Bengals jumped on it. What a pile I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it was about eight feet high with bodies unscramble it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bengals are on it, and they took advantage.

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<v Speaker 3>That was their window of opportunity right there, and Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Flacco his fourth touchdown pass of the day, a nine

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<v Speaker 3>yarder to Andre Josevash with fifty four seconds to go.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the window of opportunity brought to you by

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<v Speaker 3>guilty windows. The key to quality windows is trusting the

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<v Speaker 3>pros guilty windows. Unfortunately, Colston Lovelin went fifty eight yards.

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<v Speaker 4>I left the stadium last week with ten and a

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<v Speaker 4>half minutes up by fourteen.

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<v Speaker 5>We lost.

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<v Speaker 4>By the time I got to the car, I left

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<v Speaker 4>with five minutes and we were down by that many points.

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<v Speaker 4>I get to the parking lot and you can just

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<v Speaker 4>barely see the jumbo drawing whatever's left. The crowd in

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<v Speaker 4>the stadium roars. We scored a touchdown, make it six points, right,

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<v Speaker 4>we on side kicked. They're going nuts again. Then we

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<v Speaker 4>scored another touchdowns. I missed the entire game, I ship,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in the last five minutes. I missed the

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<v Speaker 4>entire football game. And you know, we just saw those

1:23:47.120 --> 1:23:52.120
<v Speaker 4>plays about the big screen here and it's like anytime

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<v Speaker 4>the last play, the tight end down the middle, two

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<v Speaker 4>guys our two safeties at the same time that are rapping,

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<v Speaker 4>they just hit him.

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<v Speaker 5>Now maybe he catches it.

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<v Speaker 4>They they tackle him right there and they kick a

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<v Speaker 4>field goal to win the game. You know what, That's

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<v Speaker 4>a better way to go out than what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's amazing that you uh that were talking about this,

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<v Speaker 3>because when I was on the beat, they would you know,

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<v Speaker 3>open up the uh you know, they would make an

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<v Speaker 3>announcement in the press box, the elevator, you like, with

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<v Speaker 3>five minutes to go, elevator, you get trapped in that elevator.

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<v Speaker 2>You miss the final two three, four.

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<v Speaker 3>Minutes of the game when it's decided, and I and

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<v Speaker 3>I quit going down early.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you miss so much.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, I'll wait until I know that the

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<v Speaker 3>game is going to end, you know, And they send

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<v Speaker 3>the elevator back up, and that's when we could get

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<v Speaker 3>on the field the final couple minutes of a game.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, really.

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<v Speaker 3>Before or they stand in the tunnel, sure, yeah, before

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<v Speaker 3>nine to eleven. Really, yeah, you know, and then nobody

1:24:59.040 --> 1:25:02.600
<v Speaker 3>was allowed you know, the field, so and you know

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<v Speaker 3>this to Bruce. The final quarter of a game and

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<v Speaker 3>near the end of the game, the speed of the

1:25:08.840 --> 1:25:10.400
<v Speaker 3>game just heightens.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it seems to last forever. Yes, yeah, it seems.

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<v Speaker 2>At last five minutes, it felt like an hour.

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<v Speaker 5>An hour.

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<v Speaker 2>It was brutal, brutal. It just was incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>But the speed of the game is, uh, it was

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<v Speaker 3>shock fans to be up that close seeing how fast

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<v Speaker 3>it is.

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<v Speaker 4>All for weeks, my son picked me up the same spot.

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<v Speaker 4>We're standing on the corner waiting for him to come

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<v Speaker 4>on and pick us up. Last week, you're saying you're

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna believe it, You're not gonna believe it. You're

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna believe it this week, calls him, You're not

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<v Speaker 4>gonna believe this one. We came back, we got onside kick,

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<v Speaker 4>we scored another touchdown.

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<v Speaker 5>We're leading.

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<v Speaker 2>My guys, yeah, my guys. Crazy. Hey.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a reminder for fans out there that postgame sports

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<v Speaker 3>We've got Don in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>Don Are you there?

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<v Speaker 6>Am on?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, yes, Don, Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I from Nasville. But

1:26:15.680 --> 1:26:21.280
<v Speaker 10>you said Cincinnatille. But okay, yeah, I just want to

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<v Speaker 10>say thanks, became a call here. But I really am

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<v Speaker 10>really concerned about what's going on with the Bengals right

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<v Speaker 10>now when it comes to the defense. I don't think

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<v Speaker 10>this is an easy stake. I really don't. I think

1:26:35.800 --> 1:26:38.720
<v Speaker 10>we really need to. We look at, you know, far

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<v Speaker 10>the schemes and and players we got playing this particular

1:26:42.160 --> 1:26:45.080
<v Speaker 10>scheme that got going on right now, if you look

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<v Speaker 10>at it, I look at Battle. I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 10>going on with him, the stuff he's doing right now.

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<v Speaker 10>There is no way he would did that if he

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<v Speaker 10>was playing for Nick sayeah, absolutely he was. He wouldn't

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<v Speaker 10>be plan you know, Nick Date were having him out

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<v Speaker 10>so quick that he wouldn't even know he was on

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<v Speaker 10>the team. And my point is, while we are setting

1:27:07.080 --> 1:27:10.439
<v Speaker 10>players playing like this, you know if they're gonna play,

1:27:10.439 --> 1:27:12.719
<v Speaker 10>because it's like people have to make a business decisions.

1:27:12.760 --> 1:27:16.160
<v Speaker 10>You know what business decisions mean. That means they're trying

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<v Speaker 10>not to get hurt.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't.

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<v Speaker 10>They're not trying to play at all effort. That's just sounding.

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<v Speaker 10>They make business on defense because.

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<v Speaker 5>They ain't trying to.

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<v Speaker 10>No, no, no, They enjoying one telling and and and again.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, when I look at the offense, I don't know

1:27:31.160 --> 1:27:33.720
<v Speaker 10>why people call him bout the offense. I don't know

1:27:33.960 --> 1:27:35.719
<v Speaker 10>what else you Canna has on offense. I just don't

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<v Speaker 10>office is playing. I mean, seriously, Joe Fla are the

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<v Speaker 10>kids that dude is amazing right now and.

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<v Speaker 5>And we are.

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<v Speaker 10>And we are making him look like I'm Please, don't

1:27:50.320 --> 1:27:52.960
<v Speaker 10>blame Joe back. Don't blame Joe back. If we can't

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<v Speaker 10>get the defense six, it makes no sense get hurt again.

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<v Speaker 5>Ye score fifty two points to win.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, John, We've got to run appreciate you venting. Thanks

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<v Speaker 3>thanks so much. Where does this team and we'll get

1:28:11.880 --> 1:28:14.880
<v Speaker 3>to Matt. We've got Matt, We've got Ron, We've got

1:28:15.040 --> 1:28:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Chad and others. We will get to you after the

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<v Speaker 3>top of the hour break. But but Bruce Kazerski, where

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<v Speaker 3>does this team go from here?

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<v Speaker 5>I can tell you they're not.

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<v Speaker 4>They can't make wholesale changes because they are what they

1:28:27.880 --> 1:28:30.400
<v Speaker 4>are at this point. At this point, the concrete has

1:28:30.400 --> 1:28:33.440
<v Speaker 4>been laid. All they can do is continue to work schematically,

1:28:34.120 --> 1:28:36.600
<v Speaker 4>maybe fix some weaknesses with the scheme. If there is

1:28:36.640 --> 1:28:39.040
<v Speaker 4>a if there is a way. If there's not, then

1:28:39.120 --> 1:28:41.639
<v Speaker 4>you're just gonna have to outscore people. And and this

1:28:41.680 --> 1:28:44.240
<v Speaker 4>is this is the league that will exploit every weakness

1:28:44.240 --> 1:28:47.120
<v Speaker 4>you have. They see you on film as much as

1:28:47.120 --> 1:28:49.679
<v Speaker 4>you see yourself on film, and they're going to study

1:28:49.760 --> 1:28:52.519
<v Speaker 4>the Bengals defense. They're going to tear it apart week

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<v Speaker 4>in and week out. Unless we fix or change some things,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't be You can't make too many personnel changes.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no there's no great bank of all Americans are

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<v Speaker 4>gonna come in here and make them better overnight.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they're relying on young players and they're giving them

1:29:08.280 --> 1:29:10.040
<v Speaker 3>experience and they're getting lit up.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, we talked about this a little bit

1:29:11.880 --> 1:29:14.120
<v Speaker 4>off the air, little Wago, Chick. Young players are gonna

1:29:14.160 --> 1:29:16.439
<v Speaker 4>make mistakes. You're gonna have blown coverages here and there.

1:29:16.680 --> 1:29:19.639
<v Speaker 4>But young players tackle too, just like the last caller

1:29:19.720 --> 1:29:21.880
<v Speaker 4>was talking about not being able to get away with

1:29:21.920 --> 1:29:25.360
<v Speaker 4>that kind of tackling for for Alabama. He's right, one

1:29:25.400 --> 1:29:28.160
<v Speaker 4>hundred percent correct. You know, these guys are drafted because

1:29:28.200 --> 1:29:30.559
<v Speaker 4>they were good tacklers, because they were great football player

1:29:30.920 --> 1:29:33.639
<v Speaker 4>and it's just not coming out right now, and somehow

1:29:33.680 --> 1:29:36.120
<v Speaker 4>that's got to change. They gonna look, they gonna look

1:29:36.120 --> 1:29:37.720
<v Speaker 4>a they gonna look at themselves in the mirror and say,

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta fix my problem before we fix our problem.

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<v Speaker 3>We're live at Wings and Rings in Oakley on Factory

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<v Speaker 3>He's Bruce Kazerski, this is Chick Ludwig. We're breaking down

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<v Speaker 3>the Bengals forty seven of the forty two loss to

1:31:18.720 --> 1:31:21.639
<v Speaker 3>the Chicago Bears today like a wrecking ball. A lot

1:31:21.680 --> 1:31:25.080
<v Speaker 3>of Chicago Bears fans in here tonight. Man, They're going

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<v Speaker 3>crazy and I'm going around congratulating them, and the Bengals

1:31:29.479 --> 1:31:35.360
<v Speaker 3>are making a star is born in Caleb Williams, it

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<v Speaker 3>is the Bengals fall.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that somebody has to play the Bengals, that's exactly

1:31:42.120 --> 1:31:44.080
<v Speaker 4>we might as well, you know, promote the league.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, he did look like, hey, he's the first

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<v Speaker 3>overall pick.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked like he was playing for Uscaha.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the best game of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 5>I've seen that a lot in Cincinnati. I've seen that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I was there with Brett Fahr took his

1:32:00.640 --> 1:32:02.400
<v Speaker 4>Like you said, we talked about this a little bit earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>Brett Favre made his showing against the Bengals. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>the way the game is. You never know, you never know.

1:32:08.160 --> 1:32:09.800
<v Speaker 4>These young guys step out of the closet and all

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden there's superstars. They've been waiting, wait and waiting.

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<v Speaker 4>They get their chance and before you know it, all

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 2>And all Brett fav did was start like the next time.

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<v Speaker 4>The next five thousand games and when yeah, four thousand

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<v Speaker 4>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>And Postgame Sports talking in part by ae Joring Window Company.

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<v Speaker 3>Springfield has been waiting a while. Matt, how are we

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<v Speaker 3>doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 14>What's going on?

1:32:35.840 --> 1:32:36.920
<v Speaker 5>Chick as always? Brother?

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<v Speaker 24>How you doing?

1:32:37.600 --> 1:32:37.800
<v Speaker 5>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Matt.

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<v Speaker 3>H you know what it's I'm gonna drive home and yeah,

1:32:43.920 --> 1:32:47.760
<v Speaker 3>it's frustrating, but I'm like, gosh, I almost feel like

1:32:47.800 --> 1:32:51.320
<v Speaker 3>a player. I'm getting paid for this, so uh gosh,

1:32:51.360 --> 1:32:52.080
<v Speaker 3>I can't complain.

1:32:52.160 --> 1:32:54.559
<v Speaker 5>Would you say about football and radio? You know, bad

1:32:54.640 --> 1:32:55.800
<v Speaker 5>bad football.

1:32:55.400 --> 1:33:00.160
<v Speaker 3>Making bad football makes for great radio and no one

1:33:00.200 --> 1:33:03.200
<v Speaker 3>out pieces of the Hut and no one out bungles

1:33:03.360 --> 1:33:08.480
<v Speaker 3>the Bengals.

1:33:09.560 --> 1:33:12.000
<v Speaker 5>They're currently for sure, and let's hope that they get

1:33:12.000 --> 1:33:12.679
<v Speaker 5>out of it quickly.

1:33:12.840 --> 1:33:15.960
<v Speaker 3>And Mike Brown likes to say the ox cart is

1:33:16.040 --> 1:33:17.200
<v Speaker 3>stuck in the ditch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 11>I have done at that game?

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<v Speaker 24>Man? I was down at that game. Least think it

1:33:23.840 --> 1:33:25.800
<v Speaker 24>gets the Jets. And when the Jets started getting close

1:33:25.880 --> 1:33:27.760
<v Speaker 24>in that fourth quarter, I was like, you know they're

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<v Speaker 24>gonna blow this, aren't they sure enough? What's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 15>Man?

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<v Speaker 24>It really feels like we are back to the days

1:33:33.280 --> 1:33:36.000
<v Speaker 24>of the Bungles man, where you just know at any

1:33:36.080 --> 1:33:39.759
<v Speaker 24>moment they are going to snatch defeat from the jaws

1:33:39.760 --> 1:33:43.080
<v Speaker 24>of victory, to be honest, though, uh, let's be real today,

1:33:43.160 --> 1:33:46.400
<v Speaker 24>they really had no business even being anywhere close in

1:33:46.439 --> 1:33:50.200
<v Speaker 24>that game. To be honest, there is some questionable officiating

1:33:50.280 --> 1:33:53.080
<v Speaker 24>late in that game in favor of the Bengals, shockingly,

1:33:53.760 --> 1:33:57.160
<v Speaker 24>U because honestly, that was that was a blowout. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 24>when the Bears have that pick six, I don't I

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<v Speaker 24>don't know why they got called back, what they did

1:34:01.840 --> 1:34:02.160
<v Speaker 24>or whatever.

1:34:02.200 --> 1:34:02.920
<v Speaker 14>I forget, but.

1:34:06.720 --> 1:34:10.439
<v Speaker 24>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was still a lot closer

1:34:10.439 --> 1:34:11.320
<v Speaker 24>than what it should have been.

1:34:11.600 --> 1:34:12.000
<v Speaker 20>Uh.

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<v Speaker 24>And honestly, it's just so many mistakes this team continues

1:34:16.200 --> 1:34:18.479
<v Speaker 24>to make lining up all sides, I mean, and the

1:34:18.560 --> 1:34:21.120
<v Speaker 24>lysist continues to go on and on and on, and

1:34:21.200 --> 1:34:24.120
<v Speaker 24>you can see the offensive players after the game, they're

1:34:24.160 --> 1:34:26.879
<v Speaker 24>starting to really get, you know, kicked off of this defense.

1:34:26.960 --> 1:34:30.400
<v Speaker 24>This defense is literally if you have to spear the

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<v Speaker 24>defense at this point, if you score three quick, I'm

1:34:33.000 --> 1:34:35.559
<v Speaker 24>fifty eight seconds, Come on, man, fifty eight that should

1:34:35.600 --> 1:34:37.960
<v Speaker 24>have been game. That should have been confidentals, I mean,

1:34:38.000 --> 1:34:41.200
<v Speaker 24>come on, especially with the way their kicker was kicking today,

1:34:41.240 --> 1:34:43.679
<v Speaker 24>you know, he was kind of shaking, so that should

1:34:43.680 --> 1:34:44.160
<v Speaker 24>have been a game.

1:34:44.200 --> 1:34:50.360
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, well, three rushing yards to the Bengals

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<v Speaker 3>forty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 11>To a backup seventh rounder? Yeah, he was like a

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<v Speaker 11>seventh round, seventh.

1:34:59.240 --> 1:35:03.920
<v Speaker 4>Rounder from from well what was that rotger sixth pick

1:35:04.000 --> 1:35:07.720
<v Speaker 4>or sixth pick from the from to Denver Davis. He

1:35:07.800 --> 1:35:10.880
<v Speaker 4>turned out to be pretty good too, yes, this, Yeah,

1:35:10.880 --> 1:35:13.360
<v Speaker 4>he may turn out to be a superstar in this league.

1:35:13.400 --> 1:35:16.720
<v Speaker 2>No kidding? Well, Isaya Pacheco was the seventh rounder for kids?

1:35:16.840 --> 1:35:19.439
<v Speaker 5>Who did the mega star today? Williams or this new

1:35:19.520 --> 1:35:20.040
<v Speaker 5>running back?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Both?

1:35:21.280 --> 1:35:21.479
<v Speaker 5>Really?

1:35:21.640 --> 1:35:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah?

1:35:22.240 --> 1:35:26.439
<v Speaker 3>Detay Davis is out injury their number one running back.

1:35:26.640 --> 1:35:30.080
<v Speaker 2>This guy, man, he took advantage of his operation.

1:35:30.240 --> 1:35:32.439
<v Speaker 4>That's the reason you don't take a week off in

1:35:32.479 --> 1:35:35.120
<v Speaker 4>the NFL, because someone will step in and take your job.

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<v Speaker 2>You're exactly right, man, Well, last.

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<v Speaker 24>Feel bad for Joe?

1:35:39.520 --> 1:35:40.800
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, it really.

1:35:41.080 --> 1:35:43.280
<v Speaker 24>It feels like it's a repeat of last season. Just

1:35:43.280 --> 1:35:45.960
<v Speaker 24>another Joe, you know, putting lipstick on a pig. It's

1:35:46.000 --> 1:35:48.880
<v Speaker 24>just literally the same thing. All the points in the world.

1:35:48.880 --> 1:35:50.519
<v Speaker 24>But if you don't have a defense to stop it.

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<v Speaker 24>On the other side, it doesn't really matter how many

1:35:53.160 --> 1:35:55.679
<v Speaker 24>points you put up. You could put up fifty sixty seventy.

1:35:56.160 --> 1:35:58.640
<v Speaker 24>I mean, but do you have no defense? Guess what

1:35:58.680 --> 1:36:01.920
<v Speaker 24>You're gonna lose pretty much now the time. But I

1:36:01.960 --> 1:36:04.920
<v Speaker 24>don't know, it might be time to start dumping some

1:36:05.000 --> 1:36:08.439
<v Speaker 24>pieces like dre and logan and shting all some pieces.

1:36:08.479 --> 1:36:08.639
<v Speaker 7>Man.

1:36:08.840 --> 1:36:13.160
<v Speaker 4>It's just think about how much misery the water cooler

1:36:13.240 --> 1:36:16.160
<v Speaker 4>would be if Joe Flacco hadn't been scoring all those points.

1:36:16.640 --> 1:36:19.519
<v Speaker 4>I mean, honestly, goodness, it could be forty two to

1:36:19.880 --> 1:36:23.840
<v Speaker 4>or forty seven to fourteen. Yes, the game could be

1:36:23.880 --> 1:36:24.960
<v Speaker 4>over in the first half.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, really really appreciate the call, Matt, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>UH.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's review today's Postman Law injury report, brought to you

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the big one is samaj p Ryan.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's a big one.

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<v Speaker 3>And he went down with a leg ankle flipping injury. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was down in big time pain. And then

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<v Speaker 3>he pops up and like jogs off the field that's

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<v Speaker 3>how tough he is.

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<v Speaker 5>And then it hit the bench right in front of

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<v Speaker 5>us and collapse again.

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<v Speaker 3>Collapsed and headed to the uh and he was out

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<v Speaker 3>for the rest of the game. Uh. Demitrius Knight at

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<v Speaker 3>one point went into the locker room. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if he came back or not.

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<v Speaker 5>Did not, did not say that.

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<v Speaker 2>But really, other than that, egos, a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Of egos and a lot of egos that have to

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<v Speaker 4>set on it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, they got to set on it for a week,

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<v Speaker 5>week and a half now.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's today's Postman Law Injury Report, brought to you

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<v Speaker 3>Postman delivers. Let's go out to the phones and welcome

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<v Speaker 3>in Ron and Milford if you're still there.

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<v Speaker 7>Ron, Hey, guys, I'm still How are you guys doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Sorry, we're hanging in.

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<v Speaker 7>Have have to, you know, prolong this conversation after this loss.

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<v Speaker 7>But my question is when they draft guys, do they

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<v Speaker 7>give him an IQ test?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and he goes to get a the Wonder Lick

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<v Speaker 3>test at the combine?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so because you know when they lined up off

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<v Speaker 7>sides on that field goal or the extra point in

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<v Speaker 7>the field goal, Yes, yeah, and gave them I think

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<v Speaker 7>they gave him seven points. I mean, how how hard

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<v Speaker 7>is it to know the line of scrimmage?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>And to see our defense Uh, defensive players not covering

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<v Speaker 7>their gap.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like it wasn't a defensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a defensive back, and they're very seldom ever

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<v Speaker 4>run the line.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>He's lined up, he's got he's on all fours on

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<v Speaker 3>the very far left end, and he is way over

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<v Speaker 3>the line of script.

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<v Speaker 5>Got to know it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you're looking if you turn your head three

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<v Speaker 4>degrees to the right, you're looking right at the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>You shouldn't be there.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, maybe if he's too stupid, the defensive line coast should.

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<v Speaker 6>Run down every time and look down.

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<v Speaker 7>That line and say, hey man, you're offside.

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<v Speaker 12>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>And before I go on Candolean's sister the Trumpet family,

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<v Speaker 7>but uh, the opening kickoff, was I the only one

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<v Speaker 7>waiting for them to say, there's a flag on the five.

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<v Speaker 5>Yard line.

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<v Speaker 4>Waiting for you expected You expect it in the league.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the way the league is anymore. We're just that

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<v Speaker 4>there wasn't one, and it was a great return.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I don't know where we go from here. Man. Uh,

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<v Speaker 7>lou an Arumo was apparently not the problem. I think

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<v Speaker 7>we got a bunch of idiots that needed IQ tests

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<v Speaker 7>on defense. And uh, after watching the free safety just

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<v Speaker 7>try to blow people up, not wrap up. How many

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<v Speaker 7>times has he been coached hey wrap up? Uh, you

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<v Speaker 7>know it's embarrassing and.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Ron, we've got to run. We've got to run.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for the call.

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<v Speaker 4>If you continually do the same thing over and over

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<v Speaker 4>and over, expect different results.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a name for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Well, let's check on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage today.

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<v Speaker 3>Who brought to you by Cincy by coversince he dot

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<v Speaker 3>com local health insurance experts for over twenty years. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb Williams passed for two hundred and eighty yards and

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<v Speaker 3>three touchdowns. He caught a touchdown pass, and he ran

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<v Speaker 3>for over fifty yards. So all the the top tacklers

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<v Speaker 3>on the Bengals were all.

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<v Speaker 4>Defensive defensive backs and one linebacker in that group.

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<v Speaker 2>And the coverage was not good.

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<v Speaker 4>It's what soft shell coverage they're playing. It takes me

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<v Speaker 4>back to the Jets a week ago. The first quarter

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<v Speaker 4>they played great defense, got two score lead, and it

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<v Speaker 4>looked like they went into a soft shell prevent. But

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<v Speaker 4>that looked like the same thing all all week today,

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<v Speaker 4>all day today.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we were getting pressure on Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 4>But when he when he broke contained or got out

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<v Speaker 4>of the pocket, he had eight seconds, nine seconds at

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<v Speaker 4>times to throw. You can't cover NFL receivers for that

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<v Speaker 4>long a time in zones. You can't stay with him

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<v Speaker 4>in man's that long, and so you.

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<v Speaker 5>Gotta you gotta.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're gonna get to the quarterback, you gotta do

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<v Speaker 4>it three to four seconds at most, and we weren't

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<v Speaker 4>getting there. We flushed him a few times, but you

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<v Speaker 4>can't cover them that long, and sometimes he was just

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<v Speaker 4>dropping back and throwing it. They were wide open anyway. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>So what's the what's the solution? Somewhere in between, take

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<v Speaker 4>a shot, play some man, go get the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>This used to happen Bruce in the press box, Todd

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<v Speaker 3>Archer wrote for Missions at Post Now he's ESPN covering

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<v Speaker 3>the cowboys and he's been there for years. Great guy

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<v Speaker 3>and a terrific rider and a good friend. He would

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<v Speaker 3>play the calliopee and David Folter would be sitting there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a row or two behind us, and he

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<v Speaker 3>would get very angry when he heard the calliope because,

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<v Speaker 3>as a Bengal alum sitting up there watching mistakes, it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't pretty.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I'm not very comfortable talking about it, but

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<v Speaker 4>what else can you say, chick? You know, we're tired

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<v Speaker 4>of we're tired of seeing it. And as an alumni,

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<v Speaker 4>just like David was, and just like all the alumni

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<v Speaker 4>are tired of watching. Mike Martin called in today, tired

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<v Speaker 4>of seeing the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Boss would call me or I would call my boss,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, near the end of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you got coming?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I've got a gamer and notebook and sidebar, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is what I'm going to kind of concentrate on.

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<v Speaker 3>And what does Arch or Gary have are two columnists? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I said, and I would always say a general

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<v Speaker 3>debacle column, just a general just how they lost, just

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<v Speaker 3>the general debacle column.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Flu boy right now.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you think about we have the best offensive

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<v Speaker 4>weapons in football, we do, and they're playing at their

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<v Speaker 4>highest level.

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<v Speaker 12>And.

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<v Speaker 5>We just we can't play defense mediocre level.

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<v Speaker 3>And the faster the Bengals score, the quicker the defenses

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<v Speaker 3>back out on the field. That's what's said. It is

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<v Speaker 3>just they throw them ball to our receivers. They're liable

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<v Speaker 3>to go for a touch at any.

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<v Speaker 4>Time, That's exactly, And so you can't say, well, we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to take eight minutes.

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<v Speaker 5>Off the clock right now, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And it started so well with Chuck Sizzle Charlie Jones

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<v Speaker 3>with the ninety eight yard kickoff return, kickoff return, but

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<v Speaker 3>then it ended so bad.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the special teams played their best game of

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<v Speaker 4>the year. Yes, with the exception of jumping off side

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<v Speaker 4>or being in the neutral zone on that.

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<v Speaker 5>Field goal, that's it. Yeah, But how big a play

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<v Speaker 5>was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh huge?

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<v Speaker 3>It cost the Bengals seven points and then the personal

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<v Speaker 3>foul that cost the Bengals potentially touchdown again touchdown, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because we take over.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bengals take over where the guy missed.

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<v Speaker 3>The field goal and yet gives them a fresh set

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<v Speaker 3>of downs and they go down and score that could

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<v Speaker 3>have Oh talk about momentum swings, big big And let's

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<v Speaker 3>go out to the phones.

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<v Speaker 2>Rick in Dallas. You're taking us home.

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<v Speaker 19>Here, Uh hell yeah, Eric, yes, sure you know something

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<v Speaker 19>about here about Miam Trump.

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<v Speaker 11>You know that by I remember, uh, I remember when he.

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<v Speaker 10>Talked to Sugar.

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<v Speaker 6>I was at an Air Force BA get up the right

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<v Speaker 6>Patterson and.

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<v Speaker 10>I used to listen to Sports Talk every night.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, you know what what show up? You had that

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<v Speaker 14>on there and.

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<v Speaker 5>I into that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, he's saying that, you know, he you know, trying

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<v Speaker 10>to say that young lady's life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And then we're talking about you know something, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I said, I found a.

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<v Speaker 18>Real uh uh this spot if and uh at the

1:45:19.880 --> 1:45:24.400
<v Speaker 18>college football you know that that portal and it's showing

1:45:24.520 --> 1:45:27.880
<v Speaker 18>up that you see he's showing up the you see yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what the problem with with that portal?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey?

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<v Speaker 3>Rick, uh, you're talking about the portal. I'm sorry, I

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<v Speaker 3>have to cut you off because we are we're closing

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<v Speaker 3>We're shutting it down here, We're we're closing it out

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<v Speaker 3>of time. Hey, I'm hosting sports Talk on Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 3>Please call me back. I will get you on. And

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking about the defensive secondary Bruce and the

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