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I will 18 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: be joined shortly by Bruce Kozerski, Bengals legendary offensive linemen, 19 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: and we'll be breaking down the Bengals forty seven of 20 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: the forty two loss to the Chicago Bears at pay 21 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: Corpse Stadium today like a wrecking ball. Mike Mills is 22 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: are awesome on site. Engineer Joe Waddell is producing back 23 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: in our Kenwood studios. Wings burgers, sandwiches, salads, appetizers, drink specials, 24 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: wings and rings, has it all. We'll be here in 25 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: Oakley until eight thirty tonight, and you are invited. And 26 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: if you can't be here in person, feel free to 27 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: join us by calling five, one, three, seven, four, nine, 28 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: seven thousand or one eight hundred. 29 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: Do the big One. 30 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: The Bengals, they were fifty four seconds away from a 31 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: miracle victory, down fourteen points, forty one to twenty seven. 32 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: They score fifteen points in forty nine seconds thanks to 33 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: a pair of touchdown passes sandwiched around the recovery of 34 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: an on side kick, and they lead forty two to 35 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: forty one. And then Cincinnati's ghost defense, and that's my 36 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: nickname for him, their ghost defense, anything but Golden, reared 37 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: its ugly head once again. Chicago quarterback Caleb Williams fires 38 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: a fifty eight yard touchdown pass to tight end Colston 39 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 3: Loveland with seventeen seconds remaining. 40 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 2: And the Bears win. 41 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: Improving to five and three in the Bengals fall to 42 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: three and six two and three at home. 43 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: They lost their sixth game in seven tries. 44 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: And just an unbelievable game today attract meet nine lead changes, 45 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: one thousand and seventy one total yards in this game, 46 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 3: five hundred and seventy six by the Chicago Bears four 47 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: hundred and ninety five by the Bengals. Joe Flacco was unreal, 48 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: throwing for four hundred and seventy yards four touchdowns with 49 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 3: two interceptions, but the most striking shocking. 50 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: Number out there. 51 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: The Bears rushed for two hundred and eighty three yards 52 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: to the Bengals forty six. There were some incredible individual 53 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: performances in this game. T Higgins nine targets, seven catches, 54 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty one yards, two touchdowns, including an 55 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: unbelievable forty four yarder, but the Bengals ghost defense could 56 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: not contain Caleb Williams and a rookie running back by 57 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: the name of Kyle Menangay, the two hundred and thirty 58 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: third pick in the seventh round, a rookie out of 59 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: Rutgers rushes twenty six times for one hundred and seventy 60 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: six yards and Bruce Kazerski. If I didn't watch it, 61 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: if I didn't listen, I wouldn't have believed forty seven 62 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: to forty two, Bengals so close to a miracle victory. 63 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: Disappointment once again. 64 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 4: I was sitting there watching it, and it was like 65 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 4: dejavou all over again. I felt like I was last week, 66 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 4: sitting in the same side of the club level watching 67 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: the same Bengal defense. This week, our special teams contributed heavily. 68 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: We had great outstanding performance special teams wise return a kickoff, Yes, 69 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: we aget an on side kick, it's all going our way. 70 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 4: We block a kick, or yeah, we blocked the kick 71 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 4: field goal and they missed one. It's all going right. 72 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: We're throwing them all up and down the field, and 73 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 4: then and then what happens? 74 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. 75 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: I left the stadium after the Bears went up by 76 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 4: that second score late in the fourth quarter. I had 77 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 4: to get home, had to get home, get here with 78 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 4: like five and changed standing and waiting for my ride, 79 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 4: watching the jumbo tron from where I'm getting a ride, 80 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: and the Bengals court touchdown and a two point conversion, 81 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: and thinking, well, we gotta get the outside kick. We 82 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 4: haven't got one of those laws in forever. We get 83 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 4: the hot say kicks, this can happen. And then the 84 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 4: worst thing happened in the world. We scored too quick. 85 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: We did. 86 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 4: When's the last time we said that we scored too quick? 87 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: That's amazing, it really is. 88 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: And that came with fifty eight seconds to go. 89 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: You know, you first thought is, well, OK, fifty eight seconds, 90 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 4: that they only have to go thirty yards for a 91 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 4: field goal, and that's probably the way the Bengals will 92 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 4: lose the game, the field. 93 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 3: Goal for fifty four seconds, and you're right, Uh, Caleb Williams. 94 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: They just had too much time. And this is what 95 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 3: we're dealt with here, Bruce. And it's great to see you, 96 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 3: by the way, and thanks for joining me. Last time 97 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: on Sports Talk you called this a must win. Everybody did. 98 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: You can't lose back to back home games at this 99 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: stage of the season, go to three and six and 100 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: keep falling farther behind the Pittsburgh Steelers. 101 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 5: Especially going into the bye week. 102 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 4: Yes, that that one week off is going to feel 103 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: like a month. 104 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 5: It will I feel like a month. 105 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 4: It's like you play a baseball game and losing on 106 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 4: a walk off and you play the next day. 107 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 5: It's over. You gotta drop it. 108 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 4: This one's this one's like uh, like I said, dejahfou, 109 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 4: it keeps haunting, haunting the fans and they were livid. 110 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: You know, when you sit in the stands and you 111 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 4: watch the game, you're not sitting in the press corps. 112 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 4: You're not sitting The fans were beside themselves livid. 113 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 5: Uh. There were I don't want to. 114 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: Say as many because they didn't have an accurate count, 115 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 4: but the cheering was louder, be honest for the Bears 116 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 4: at some points in the game than it was for 117 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: the Bengals, and that can't happen at home. 118 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams and Kyle Manonge and the Bears turned play 119 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: Course Stadium into their own personal playground there for most 120 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:21,559 Speaker 3: of this game. 121 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 5: It was truly sad. 122 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: But you know, I sat up there and I kept saying, 123 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: this is what you know, we actually had to stop 124 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: in the first series that we got to call for 125 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: a holding penalty, defensive holding and you know, okay, well 126 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: they stopped at once and be able to stop them again. 127 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: Not the rest of the day, not the rest of 128 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: the day. I guess they made them punt once, but 129 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: not the rest of the day. You feel when they 130 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 4: settle for a field goal, that's a stop anymore. 131 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: Chase Brown drops a wide open pass that he might 132 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: have been. 133 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: Able to score on. 134 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and that caused a forty one yard field goal. 135 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 5: Okay. 136 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: So the Bengals go up ten to seven, and then 137 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: Cairo Santos misses a field goal, but dj Ivy gets 138 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: called for being in the neutral zone. 139 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: They wind up scoring a touchdown. 140 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, when they got new life at that point in 141 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 5: the game. 142 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 4: You got the you got the five yard illegal hand, 143 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 4: legal contact by the defender, and then you got that 144 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: one off side. 145 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 5: You just feel it's not gonna happen. 146 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: There was another moment a little while later where you 147 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: just felt something was just gonna happen against us. We're 148 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 4: not gonna do this, We're not gonna do that, And 149 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: you start to get the doubts because they certainly had 150 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: enough unsuccessful. But again, Joe Flacco and the receivers, I 151 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 4: mean Jamar Chason t Higgins was out unbelievable, unbelievable, and 152 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 4: they were playing their butts off. They wanted to win 153 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: this game in the worst way. Uh, But there's something 154 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 4: missing on defense. I don't think it's I don't think 155 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: it's effort. I I really don't think it's efforts. Whether 156 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 4: it's schemes, we're not we're not getting We got pressure 157 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 4: on Killer Williams on on that long. The problem with 158 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: getting pressure was we didn't have anybody when he ran. 159 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: And that was my biggest going in catching the rabbit. 160 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: You know, as when he broke. When he broke, the 161 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 4: tain er stepped up, there was nobody home. 162 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: He's Bruce Kazerski. This is Chick Ludwig. 163 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post Game 164 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: Sports Talk presented by RNEL Carriers. 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We are at 175 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: the Wings and Rings Oakley forty six fifteen Factory Colony 176 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 3: Lane till eight thirty tonight and Bruce. The Bengals came 177 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: in really with the lead. The east penalized team in 178 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: the National Football League at an average of five a game. Well, 179 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: they had five midway through the second quarter and a penalty, 180 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: and every one of them was crippling everyone. And finally 181 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase gets his first catch at the nine to 182 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: twenty five mark of the second quarter. A Joe Flacco 183 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: fumble got overturned, thank goodness, and then he hits Chase 184 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: for thirty seven yards first and goal at the six 185 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: yard line. And what happens Orlando Brown on the next 186 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: play an incompletion in the end zone, Orlando Brown gets 187 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: tagged with a fifteen yard unsportsmanlike penalty and that just 188 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: killed that drive. So instead of getting a touchdown, they 189 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: have to settle for a field goal, and that. 190 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: Hurt every every players had had situations in a game 191 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 4: where they've been chief shot at and they've been beaten. 192 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: He was beaten several times prior to that by the 193 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 4: defense event on that side probably and the one time 194 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 4: he got run over, and he's a good player, but 195 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: you know, he just didn't have his best day at 196 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 4: that point and it was frustrated. 197 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 5: And when. 198 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 4: Whatever happened on that play, he got in a fight. 199 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: I'm watching the play on this side, and next thing 200 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 4: you know, we get a melee going on the other 201 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: side of the field and he drew the flag. And 202 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: you just in that situation, knowing the way things are going, 203 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: with a frustrations mounting everywhere, you can't do that. You 204 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 4: just you just can't do that. And that's that's as 205 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 4: big a play in the game. That's a bigger penalties 206 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 4: as in the game. 207 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: And it was fourteen to ten at that point in 208 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 3: favor of Chicago. The Bengals had to settle for a 209 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 3: field goal. Fourteen to thirteen. 210 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, that that that's a four point, yes, four points penalty, 211 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 4: and uh, you know, momentum, you had all the momentum 212 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 4: in the world. You had players making plays and then 213 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 4: then you get the big fellow getting that penalty, and 214 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 4: that's that's that's crippling. 215 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 5: It really is. 216 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 4: There's no there's no excuse for it. I know they 217 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 4: they talked to him on the sidelines and I'm sure 218 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 4: he feels bad about it, but it happened. 219 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 5: You know, you just you just can't do that. 220 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones. 221 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: Pat leads us off in reading Pat Hi, how are 222 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: you today? 223 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 6: Oh? 224 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 7: God? You know you know me. 225 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 8: I usually don't listen to the postgame show where when 226 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 8: they lose, because it's such a joke. But I thought 227 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 8: i'd try today and see if any truth or reality 228 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 8: would be discussed. Now, just as I thought, not a chance. 229 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 6: Wayne box Miller said that this team doesn't quit. 230 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 7: Well, maybe the. 231 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 6: Offense doesn't quit, but what about the defense? He said, 232 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 6: we did a great job on special teams to get 233 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 6: the onside kick. He said that the Bengals had a 234 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 6: lot of time to regroup. 235 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 8: Really now, when Dave talked to the head coach, Taylor 236 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 8: said that the defense is often one step sorge and 237 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 8: we didn't have enough takeaways. What about knowing how to 238 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 8: tackle and putting more effort into that. I have never 239 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 8: seen a team that tackles so horribly. And they talked 240 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 8: about having a bunch of guys that are leaders, who 241 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 8: are our leaders on defense. They went over fifteen minutes 242 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:30,239 Speaker 8: without even intimating that our defense is absolutely horrific. 243 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 3: That's why I'm calling it the ghost defense. Anything but gold. 244 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I love that. 245 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 6: I mean I couldn't take anymore, so I turned it off. 246 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 6: But now I just want to give you one. 247 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 8: Example of the embarrassing nature of our defense. 248 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 6: On Chicago's first drive in the second half, the Bears 249 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 6: running back who was fantastic, but then again, he was 250 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 6: playing the Bengals. He had just gotten the first down, 251 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 6: but are number ninety eight. I had to look up 252 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 6: his name, p J. Splayton. I was shocked that I 253 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 6: didn't know who he. 254 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 8: Was, but I have never ever heard his name for 255 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 8: anything describing a good play. He was kneeling on the 256 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 8: ground doing an Arnold Schwarzenegger pose, flexing his muscles after 257 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 8: they got a first down. I mean, how embarrassing is that? 258 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 6: Naturally they went on to score a touchdown. Are is 259 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 6: he one of those great leaders we have or is 260 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 6: anyone on this defense accountable for anything? Would you tell me. 261 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: It's bad? 262 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: And we're stuck with it. This is who they have, 263 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 3: and there's too many young players. They're counting on them 264 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: and they're giving them a experience. Meanwhile, they're getting run over. 265 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: They're not getting taken to the wood shed. They're getting 266 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: taken to the wood chipper. 267 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 5: I'm just looking at some stats here. 268 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: Myself and Jordan Battle five tackles, seven assists for twelve. 269 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 4: Carter linebacker five tackles, five assists for ten. Dax Hill 270 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: defensive back four tackles, three assists for seven. Gino Stone 271 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 4: four tackles, three assists for seven. Those top four tacklers 272 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 4: defensive backs are one linebacker. 273 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 5: That's it, yep or Berks three tackles, three assists. 274 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 8: I'm just watching that last touchdown they got again once again, 275 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 8: two guys trying to tackle the guy who scored the 276 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 8: touchdown and they just off of them. 277 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, they each that in the pros. Or do 278 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 6: they assume you already know how to tackle? 279 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 4: I assume they expect you to tackle. The defensive backs 280 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 4: that I played with tackle. And I'm certain I'm not 281 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: going to speak too badly about I think this was 282 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 4: all foreseeable. I'm not sure that they're they've grown a 283 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 4: whole bunch in the AL Golden defense. 284 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 10: And I. 285 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 4: Know he's a great guy and he's a good coach, 286 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 4: but they have not gotten better and schimatic wise, whatever 287 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 4: it is, they've not gotten better, and they're not taking 288 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 4: chances to get better. They're not the blitzeres aren't working 289 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: when he calls them because somebody gets wide open that 290 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: they dropped the coverage on a back out of the 291 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 4: backfield completely one time. And there's just so many, so 292 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 4: many little things, and they're a step here and a 293 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 4: step there. As the coach said, it is a step. 294 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: But it's the NFL. You're a step behind. You're a 295 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: step behind, you lose. 296 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: They've give it up at least twenty seven points now 297 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: since the openers. That's eight straight games at least twenty 298 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: seven points. And we had the stat last week fifty 299 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: four and four when scoring thirty eight or more points. Well, 300 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: now he's one and four. Scoring thirty eight points. One 301 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: and four is their record in the last two years. 302 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 4: We were crying over our spilt milk last week when 303 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 4: they scored thirty eight and lost. 304 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 5: Today they scored forty two and lost. Yeah, that makes 305 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 5: it even worse. 306 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't understand why the coach won't even 307 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 8: call them out and say something. 308 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 6: Besides, they're one step behind. 309 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, well, if you saw what the 310 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: what the players only meeting. 311 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: What that meant? 312 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, he's in a very very tough situation because 313 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: because his neck is more on the line than theirs, 314 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 4: be honestly, because you can't you can't get a whole 315 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 4: news set of players at this stage. You know, I 316 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: think he's doing a great job offensively, but it's not 317 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 4: working defensive. 318 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 3: Pat, We've got to run. We've reached the top of 319 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: the hour. 320 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: News. 321 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 3: Appreciate you calling. Hey, he's Bruce Kezerski. 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We will be 342 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 3: here till eight thirty tonight, and we're breaking down the 343 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 3: Bengals loss to the Chicago. 344 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: Bears like a wrecking ball. 345 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: And Bruce, you mentioned it as soon as you came 346 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 3: in today that the Bears had a great game plan, 347 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: knowing how aggressive this young defense wanted to be, trying to. 348 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 2: Make up for last week, and they kind of played 349 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: right in. 350 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: That was my first thought watching sitting up there watching 351 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 4: the first couple of series, is the Bengals are flying 352 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: around to the ball there trying to take away I 353 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 4: mean that talk, this is the defense only meeting. 354 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 5: They were gonna fly around, they were gonna. 355 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 4: Make plays, and they were except for all the trick 356 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 4: plays that they kept overlooking. And they ran every trick 357 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 4: play in the book. Remember this head coach came from 358 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions and Dan Campbell, and they ran every 359 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 4: trick play in the book, and I swear we saw 360 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: every one. 361 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 5: Of them today. 362 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 4: They ran lateral pat to double passes, they were in 363 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 4: reverse passes, they threw back screens to the quarterback. It 364 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 4: was just a tremendous game plan. I thought they didn't 365 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 4: run out of tricks. 366 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: They turned the Bengals defense every which way but loose. 367 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: It really did they Wow. 368 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 4: They were flying around, but they were going the wrong 369 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 4: direction sometimes and that's again that hurts, and it's a 370 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 4: one step that's coach said, you're you're one step away 371 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 4: from making the play. And then all of a sudden 372 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 4: they were able to get that pass off and throw 373 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 4: it backside to a screen to the quarterback. 374 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 375 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams he catches two passes yea for a touchdown. 376 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 11: Yeah. 377 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: So it was crazy, it really, this was just a 378 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 3: wild game, Bruce, And it was like it was almost 379 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 3: reminded me of Flag football. 380 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: For a while. 381 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 5: Well, there was not a lot of hit There was 382 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 5: not a lot of tackling going on. 383 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 3: Well and point all you hit to do is touch 384 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: your pinky on the player and he's down. Yeah, okay 385 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 3: after the interception, and that really helped the Bengals. 386 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: I'm looking at Joe Flacco throwing for Feuner in seventy 387 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 4: yards and the running game that's that ran so well 388 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 4: last week thirty one yards. 389 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 3: Well, two hundred and eighty three rushing yards for the Bears, 390 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 3: forty six for the Bengals. 391 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 392 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 4: And not only do they throw it a bunch, they 393 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 4: ran out of a bunch the Bears. 394 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 5: It was. It was the six hundred or five hundred 395 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 5: and fifty total yards. 396 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: Offense, five seventy. 397 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 5: Six, it was. It was just unbelievable. Look a track meet. 398 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 4: Every time they got on the field, it was up 399 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 4: and down the field. 400 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: You're right, let's go out to the phones. Mark is 401 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: in Florence High Mark. 402 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, how's it going. 403 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 13: I just wanted to make three points about the game. 404 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 13: I thought the momentum changed when when Chase Brown dropped that. 405 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 14: Pass oh yeah, early in the game. 406 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 13: And then the big the big one was that when 407 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 13: that missfield goal happened and the dj ivy was outside, 408 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 13: I thought. 409 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 7: That was a big game changer right there. 410 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 13: And and the last point I'm gonna make, even with 411 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 13: that completion to the tight end at the end of 412 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 13: the game, if you tackle him, get him on the ground, 413 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 13: and don't because they were running out of time. 414 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 7: That field goal kicker was struggling the whole game. 415 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 11: He missed two field goals. So my my thing. 416 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 13: Was get him on the ground, make that kicker beat 417 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 13: you with his leg, because it wasn't no guarantee he 418 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 13: was gonna make it. And Jordan Battle was just he 419 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 13: just put his shoulder into him. He didn't wrap him 420 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 13: up and trying to tackle. 421 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 4: So I'm not I'm not even going to go so 422 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 4: far as to say they needed to get that guy 423 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 4: on the ground. If they'd got the guys on the 424 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 4: ground earlier in the game, you know, if they stopped 425 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 4: and drive earlier in the game, maybe there's not fifty 426 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 4: seconds left. 427 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 13: I mean, this particular game, I don't blame Zach the 428 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 13: coach on them losing it. I think you just have 429 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 13: to point the finger all on that defense. That defense 430 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 13: just didn't get the job done. 431 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 12: At no point in the game. 432 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 13: And then those penalties, you know, the Bengals kind of 433 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 13: you know, kind of beat themselves. So I'll get off 434 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 13: and listen to the rest of the show. 435 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 5: I know we had a we had the holding penalty 436 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 5: or any game. 437 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 7: Sad we here, Bob Trump, he passed away. 438 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 4: Pass interference that we have. We weren't close enough to 439 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: get a pass interference. 440 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: Well, and Demetrius Knight with the illegal hands. Yeah, and 441 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: I thought it was kind of a tickie tack clawtack. 442 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: But still that kept that drive going and they scored. 443 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 4: Now, you might see that kind of call earlier in 444 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 4: the game to let everybody know we're calling it tight today. 445 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 4: Don't get handsy and h then you didn't see at 446 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: the rest of the game. 447 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 2: And Bruce, how often don't we see it? 448 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 3: This happened in the Super Bowl down in Miami where 449 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 3: at the Chicago Bears ran back the opening kickoff for 450 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: a touchdown and then Peyton Manning goes out and beats 451 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 3: him for the Colts. 452 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 2: But anyway, and. 453 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 3: That was my thought, Yeah, great for Charlie Jones, that 454 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 3: was awesome. Ninety eight yards a lightning bolt right out 455 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: of the gate, and that caused the the time of 456 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: possession to be really skewed and the number of snaps too. 457 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: By the Bengals conversession. 458 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 4: The conversation was about, you know, they won, They won 459 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 4: the toss and elected to kick offf they wanted. They deferred, 460 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 4: they wanted the ball start of the second half because 461 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 4: they get the potential pre pre half and post half score, 462 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 4: which they they got. But then we returned the opening 463 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: kickoff and that supposedly so shoots that theory the heck. 464 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 5: You know, but it didn't. It didn't. It haunted us, 465 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 5: it really did. 466 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 12: Uh. 467 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: Let's go back out to the phones. Keith is in Muncie. Hey, Keith, Hello, Yes. 468 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 7: Sir, Hey, good day to you. I wish you the 469 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 7: best as you. 470 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 12: Want to tell you you're one of the legends of radio. 471 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 3: You are. 472 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 12: You belong in the Hall of Fame, your voice. But 473 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 12: I mean, just like the guy from Louisville Radio up 474 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 12: here in Fort Wayne. 475 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 14: But want to tell you that it's like your if, 476 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 14: like your defense and your your coach is bought off. 477 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 12: I don't understand it. And I mean, you guys are good, 478 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 12: but I just don't understand why they fall on their faith. 479 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm. 480 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 12: Sorry for UC for falling the other day over there, Utah. 481 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 12: You know I've followed you guys all the time, but 482 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 12: that's just like the Rids and the Sin today at Bengals. 483 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 12: I have so much faith in you guys. Hell, you 484 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 12: want to know the truth, I could buy almost either 485 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 12: team all by myself. You want to know the truth. 486 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 12: I could buy them. But you guys are good, and 487 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 12: I'm sorry for what you have to have to deal with. 488 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: Well, Ken, we appreciate it, We appreciate the call, Thank 489 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: you very much. Bengals fans are frustrated, They're angry, they're upset. 490 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 3: They have every reason to be angry and upset. You 491 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 3: can't lose at home. And now they're two and three 492 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: at home, and they've lost six out of seven games. 493 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 4: And now the frustration of a bye week, coming off 494 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 4: two horrible losses eighty points in two games and you're 495 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 4: zero and two. The fans are gonna gel on, are 496 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: gonna sit on this for for another two weeks before 497 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 4: the game and won't be home, and so who knows 498 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 4: in the time period it takes for them to get home. 499 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 4: It's it's it's gonna be a long period of time. 500 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 3: Hey, we've got to take a break, but we're gonna 501 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: come back with another Bengals legend when we return. This 502 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 3: is Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski, and you're listening to 503 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented by 504 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 3: RNL carriers live from Wings and Rings and Oakley on 505 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 3: seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back 506 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented 507 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: by RNL carriers Bruce Kazerski, Chick Ludwig, and we are 508 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 3: live at the Wings and Rings, Oakley, forty six to fifteen, 509 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: Factory Colony Lane. Bengals fall forty seven to forty two 510 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 3: to the Chicago Bears. Today in the Bears turn pay 511 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 3: Course Stadium into their own personal playground. And on the 512 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: phone right now with us former Bengals. 513 00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: Wow. 514 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 3: From special teams to wide receiver, He did it all, 515 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: Mike Martin, Mike, Welcome to seven hundred WLW. 516 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: We love you much. 517 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 10: What's going on, Chicken, because how you guys doing? 518 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 9: Man? 519 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: All right, Mike, We're hanging in there. 520 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 12: Man. 521 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 14: Let me tell you something coming from Chicago. 522 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 9: You guys know that's where I live now, Yes, sir, 523 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 9: I was back before. 524 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 5: We got here. 525 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 9: I'm talking trash all week by what by what was 526 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 9: going to happen? I get in town yesterday, I go 527 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 9: out to a couple events the Bears fans. They got 528 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 9: five buses. 529 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 13: People in a club. 530 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 9: I walked in with Big Kid on and I almost 531 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 9: thought I was back in Chicago. That's how I mean, 532 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 9: that's how many. 533 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 5: Bears fans that there were. 534 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 9: But oh, listen, I'm so frustrated. And I know, you know. 535 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 9: I was with a couple of guys, a couple of 536 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 9: former players to day, and everyone's frustrated. Man, you cannot 537 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 9: play defense the way these guys are playing defense. 538 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 7: You just can't. 539 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 9: You cannot win any games. You can't bump people anymore. 540 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 9: This is a physical game. You gotta rap. I told someone, 541 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 9: I don't know what they do throughout the week. I 542 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 9: know it's not real physical practices and all that kind 543 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 9: of stuff and hitting and tackling. They have to get 544 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 9: back to fundamentals. They have to get They need to 545 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 9: bring out a tackling dummy and have every defensive player 546 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 9: hit and wrap the dummy and take the dummy to 547 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 9: the ground because for the last couple of weeks, that's 548 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 9: all that's been happening. They think they can bump a 549 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 9: guy and expect the cat of fall and it's just ridiculous. 550 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 14: Man. 551 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 9: I had friends from all over the country calling me 552 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 9: after the game, Mike, the Bengals are embarrassment, and I'm like, well, 553 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 9: you know, I said, I'm not gonna totally say that. 554 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 9: I said, I said, offense is putting up some points, 555 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 9: but they still you know, offense still making a little 556 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 9: small mistakes as well. But and defensively, they gotta get 557 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 9: back to fundamentals of chocolate, that's all. 558 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 12: Yeah. 559 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: The gap control is just brutal. We saw this Manongae 560 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 3: just slither through, you know, like a shot through the 561 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: defensive line. 562 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 4: That's that's that all pro Monogae, the future Hall of 563 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 4: Famer in Mononga. 564 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. And they brought in a guy. They 565 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: brought in a guy that they they just brought up 566 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 3: from the practice squad, and he went two carries for 567 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: thirty yards. 568 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 15: But it's read. 569 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 9: But yeah, I'm talking about angles. They're taking bad angles. 570 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 9: They're they're losing contained that stuff you learned in college. 571 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're drafted. They're drafted to not do that right? 572 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 16: Right? 573 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 9: How you lose containing when you know that's one of 574 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 9: your only responsibilities. If if, if you, if you have contains, 575 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 9: stay outside, put your show on the outside, stay out there. 576 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 9: These guys a different in different inside, and folks is 577 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 9: running right around them. 578 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 4: TV's are coming inside. They did it all last week 579 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 4: to the dvs to coming inside. 580 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 5: That block in. 581 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 3: Life was There was a play when when Briton Brown 582 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 3: ranch with the twenty two yard touchdown to make a 583 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 3: thirty one to twenty seven. 584 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: Okay, the announcers pointed. 585 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: It out the Bengals defensive line they were slanting to 586 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 3: the weak side and the Bears were overloaded on the 587 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: right side. 588 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 5: That's That's what I'm talking about. Scheme wise. 589 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 4: How could you either somebody made the wrong call or 590 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 4: or they just are are coach to do that and 591 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 4: it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. They're constantly overad to 592 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 4: the wrong side. 593 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, and when those kinds of things happen, man, it 594 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 9: makes you wonder do you have confident players on the 595 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 9: team or, like you guys said, are they being coached wrong? 596 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 16: Something something has a. 597 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 9: Change, you know. 598 00:31:59,280 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 16: I don't think they go. 599 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 9: You know, it's hard to figure out if they even 600 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 9: got a shout of getting in playoffs. Uh, but something 601 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 9: has to change because if this continues, the Bengals defense 602 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 9: will be the laughing stock of the NFL. This game 603 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 9: is going to be talked about on every major network 604 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 9: for the rest of the week until Thursday. 605 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 5: Night for two weeks. They don't play again for a while, two. 606 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 7: Weeks, right, that's true, that's true. 607 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 9: And now they got to sit back and hear all 608 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 9: this stuff. 609 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 2: For two weeks. 610 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: Losing the next week, it feels like two or three weeks. 611 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: Go bye week. 612 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: Coming on two losses, it's gonna feel like a month, 613 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: like a month. 614 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 9: Yes, And the thing is the best thing these guys 615 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 9: can do, you know, to get their minds back. Go home, 616 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 9: wherever you live, go home, go home, and come back with. 617 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 7: A fresh with a fresh fresh. 618 00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 9: Mind, so you can get down to tackling any strapping 619 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 9: up and tackling. 620 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 3: Eight straight games giving up twenty seven points. 621 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 5: Well, no, there was a and you were you were 622 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 5: part of this mic. 623 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 4: There was a period of time when we were when 624 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 4: Browning was the quarterback and everybody was throwing their their 625 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 4: hands up in the air about how poorly the offense 626 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 4: was performing, and they were they own they had to 627 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 4: own it. But at the same time, was the defense 628 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 4: doing a whole lot better? And it was it was 629 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 4: so bad offense will be that nobody even paid much 630 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 4: attention to how poorly the defense was playing. We constantly 631 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 4: put them in bad situations and they weren't answering the 632 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 4: bell at all. You know, they were giving up touchdowns 633 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 4: and and so here we are now here all the 634 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 4: nine games in the regular season, and now it's it's 635 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 4: come to a head, Like you say, something. 636 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 5: Has to happen. 637 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 10: Here's the thing. 638 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 15: Let me tell you this real quickly. 639 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 9: If I'm a defensive coach, is exactly what I do, 640 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 9: and you cant sugarcoat it. I'm pulling up the field 641 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 9: and cause you know how Bruce and the beat of 642 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 9: the coaches and off of the coaches would play one 643 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 9: play for about ten minutes and go down the line 644 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 9: and look at everybody's position, look at what you're doing, 645 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 9: Look at this, look at your footwork, look at this, 646 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 9: look at your attack. They need to do that all next. 647 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 4: Week, you know what, Then they can take one game 648 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 4: and make a highlight film of what not to do. 649 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 5: Exactly comes a tackling. 650 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 17: Exactly because Eric, I guarantee you every last player on 651 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 17: that field pretty much is an example of what you 652 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 17: don't do. 653 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 16: And here's the thing I'm gonna tell you guys this. 654 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 11: I left the stadium. 655 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 9: I left the stadium when they were down by fourteen. 656 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 15: I'm yeah, right. 657 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 9: I get to the car and I say, okay, binge, okay, 658 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 9: bingers went down the score. If they go down the score, 659 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 9: maybe they can get the doll side kick. Boom, they 660 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 9: got the downside kick. I'm like, okay, now they. 661 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 6: Can put themselves in a position and win the game. 662 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 15: They go right down the field, score, win the game, 663 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 15: and I'm thinking, okay, uh uh, the other team has 664 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 15: the ball now, so so first. 665 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 9: Down nothing, second down nothing. By this time, I'm in 666 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 9: the car listen to any radio. 667 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 7: The radio goes out. 668 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 15: I don't know what happened. 669 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 7: The radio goes Who's out. 670 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 9: When it comes back in, uh laughing and saying, yeah 671 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 9: that was that was a great touchdown. 672 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 10: Fifty a young Chicago, I'm. 673 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 9: Like, what, wait, wait a minute, fifty year. 674 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,479 Speaker 15: I just saw it not too long ago. 675 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 9: I just saw what happened, and I was almost sick 676 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 9: to my stomach. 677 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, it would have been better. 678 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 4: It would have been better to be down by by 679 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 4: like uh two points and making and had the Bengals 680 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 4: slow play and kicking field goal to win that game 681 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 4: rather than having to have a touchdown as they had 682 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 4: to have a touchdown. 683 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 5: They made a big play. 684 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 4: Congratulations, now you put Now you put us in position 685 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,959 Speaker 4: to have to play defense again. 686 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 3: And Mike, I hate to cut you off. We've reached the. 687 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 2: Bott with the aller By. 688 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 14: I just want to listen. 689 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 16: I just want to I just want to say hello. 690 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 7: To you guys. 691 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 11: Man. 692 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 9: I listen to you guys at Chicago. 693 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 15: So y'all do a great job. 694 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 3: Appreciate you, Mike, thank you so much. Wow. All right, 695 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 3: you're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports 696 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 3: Talk presented by RNL Carriers. 697 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 2: That was Mike. 698 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 3: Martin in studio here at Wings and Rings in Oakley, 699 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 3: Bruce Kazerski and Chick Ludwig on seven hundred WLW and 700 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 3: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. You're listening to the Tri State 701 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 3: Chevy Dealers post game sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. 702 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 3: He's Bruce Kazerski, this is Chick Ludwig and we are 703 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 3: live at Wings and Rings, Oakley forty six fifteen Factory 704 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 3: Colony Lane. We're here till eight thirty tonight, and this 705 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 3: is the place to vent five one, three, seven, four, nine, 706 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 3: seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one. Let's go 707 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 3: out to the phones and welcome in. Is this touchdown? 708 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: Tommy and Milford? 709 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 16: What do you need to say? 710 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 6: Their check there? 711 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 16: It's like somebody you know. 712 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 3: Yes it was. 713 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 2: It was like, you know, it was like last week 714 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 2: was bad? Can we top it? 715 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 716 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 2: We topped it this week again. 717 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 5: Now it's gonna take up two weeks to make it better. 718 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 16: Yes, it's pretty it's pretty hard to do, Okay. I 719 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,959 Speaker 16: think we're making it way too complicated. If you can't 720 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 16: stop the run, you ain't gonna beat nobody. I mean, 721 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 16: that's just the way it is. And I think the 722 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 16: last Pro Bowl guy we had on defense was Atkins. 723 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 16: So let's look at what's going on with with Tobin 724 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 16: and what they've been drafting. I think part of the 725 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 16: problem is they don't have the players on the field 726 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 16: that can play this particular scheme. So whether you can 727 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 16: change the scheme or you can't change the players quickly. 728 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 16: But these guys ain't getting it. They're making the I 729 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 16: mean even battle. On the last play, Hey, you know 730 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 16: what they're trying to do. You're gonna go twenty yards 731 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 16: try to get a field goal. He's playing thirty yards 732 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 16: day he was trying to play against a touchdown. I 733 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 16: thought what they were trying to play? What they're playing for? 734 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 16: A freaking he caught that right in front? Well hell 735 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 16: did decide to wrap up nothing tackling tackling iss have 736 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 16: that mental idea. Let me tell you this crap wouldn't 737 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 16: be going on in Pittsburgh. Them guys would be out 738 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 16: of here. They don't put up with that nonsense. This 739 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 16: defense is saw no tackling, arm tackled. Nobody tackles the leg. 740 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 16: That guy's five foot seven to two oh five and 741 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 16: everybody's trying to try to tackle him on his up 742 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 16: by shoulder pad. Why didn't somebody game around his freaking legs? Stoppers? 743 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 11: It's ridiculous. 744 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 3: The two hundred and thirty third overall pick in the 745 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 3: draft out of Rutgers, Oh my gosh, what are the 746 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 3: running backs doing there? 747 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 12: Uh? 748 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 3: Pacheco a seventh rounder in This guy managay, He's unbelievable, 749 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 3: twenty six carries one hundred and seventy six yards six 750 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 3: point eight a pop long game of thirty nine and gush. 751 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift is uh is injured. This guy looks like 752 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 3: Barry Sanders. 753 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 16: Right, I mean, I don't know how bit I think. 754 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 16: I think since they've got the smallest scouting department, which 755 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 16: is part of the problem too. You can't constantly look 756 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 16: at PFF and figure out who you need to be drafting. 757 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 16: You've got to be close to these guys. You've got 758 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 16: to know what they can do. You've got to know 759 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 16: how they really are. I mean, are you look back 760 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 16: at our drafting. Our drafting in the last ten years 761 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 16: has been pathetic. Outside of Higgins, Chase and Burrow, the 762 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 16: rest of them, I don't think I can name one 763 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 16: that's made an impact. You've got Miles Murphy, You've got 764 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 16: Jordan Battle, I can go Dack's Hill, I go for 765 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 16: them all. There's not a Pro Bowl option in there 766 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 16: at all. If I was starting his defense over, I'm 767 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 16: not sure I'd be able to hold any of them. 768 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 4: Agreed, I thought, yeah, And then then uh, you know 769 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 4: there's new UH flyers go out mail looking to solicit 770 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 4: new tickets for next year. Get prices has gone up, 771 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 4: and you know, uh someone told me that they had 772 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 4: called the uh the ticket's office about their the price 773 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 4: of their tickets and they said, well, you guys want 774 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 4: us to sign Jamar Chase and and Joe Burrow and 775 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 4: t Higgins and uh and Hendricks. You know, where's the 776 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 4: money coming from. We gotta we gotta raise the prices, 777 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 4: you know. And and that's the bottom line, you do. 778 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 4: But you know, at the same time, these guys that 779 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 4: aren't those four or five guys are are making a 780 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 4: lot of money. 781 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 5: You know, they're not Type one. 782 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 4: I was watching a replay on the board because where 783 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 4: it was sitting, we had a good view of the 784 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 4: board that the pile was moving, you know, they running 785 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 4: back in the scrum and. 786 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 5: He's moving and and Battle comes in. 787 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 4: He has a chance to take the legs of the 788 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 4: running back out and he like jumps into the pile 789 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 4: like he's a you know, jumping to the ball pit 790 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 4: at the boys r us instead of taking the legs out, 791 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 4: knocking the whole pile down, and they got four or 792 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 4: five more yards out of it. 793 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 16: Yeah, he just kept frustrating. 794 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 2: Kept moving forward. He just kept moving forward, didn't he. 795 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 16: Oh but every since DJ Reider, you know, laugh, we've 796 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 16: got nobody in the middle that can move the defense 797 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 16: of an offensive line. I mean those offensive line guys 798 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 16: for the last two weeks, I mean they're pushing us 799 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 16: back four yards. There's nobody hitting these running backs for 800 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 16: for a good six yards. You're right, they're gett hitting 801 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 16: them backfield. 802 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 4: They brought in a two guys in the last few 803 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 4: years that were run stuffers where they came from, and uh, 804 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 4: it's not helping they I mean they got the guy from. 805 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 2: The Packers, yeah, yeah. 806 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 4: And then they got the guy before that from the Patriots. 807 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 4: Big was it? U? 808 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 3: I think the Jags Jag Yeah, the Jags. 809 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 5: And and uh it hasn't helped so. 810 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 15: Well. 811 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 16: I mean, I mean, and they weren't great players. I 812 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 16: mean they were role players, you know at Green Bay. 813 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 16: And I mean, guess what I mean, we can't be picky. 814 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 16: But on the other hand, I don't think we're I 815 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 16: don't think we're we're not getting more out of these players. 816 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 16: I mean, it's one thing getting a player and be 817 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 16: able to coach them up. There's none a coaching up. 818 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 16: These guys are flatlined. You're getting negative. 819 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, getting coaches have to coach, you don't have to 820 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 4: get more out of them. And if that's not happened, 821 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 4: there's disconnect. 822 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 5: I totally agree. 823 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 16: I totally agree. 824 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 14: We'll let you go. 825 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 16: I know there's a bunch of others that need to 826 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 16: be on the couch and talking about this with therapy, 827 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 16: you know. But I appreciate you guys taking my call back. 828 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 3: All right to exactly Steve guys, he loves his Virginia Cavaliers. 829 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 5: How about that going on. 830 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,959 Speaker 16: Break the top ten. We're gonna be there. 831 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 3: Oh man, awesome, Say hi to your son for us. 832 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 3: Appreciate you, my friend. All right, thank you very much. 833 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 3: We got to take a break. We'll come back to 834 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 3: take your calls. You're listening to the Tri State Chevy 835 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 3: Dealer's post game Sports Talk presented by RNL carriers were 836 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 3: live at the Wings and Rings Oakley right here on 837 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 3: seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 838 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Try States. 839 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 3: Sheevy Dealers post game Sports Talk presented RNL Carriers. This 840 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 3: is Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski and we are live 841 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 3: at the Wings and Rings in Oakley and we're breaking 842 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 3: down the bengals forty seven to forty two loss to 843 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears today. Well, Bruce, let's review the delivery 844 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 3: of the game brought to you by RNL Carriers. Visit 845 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 3: RLC dot com and make RNL Carriers your global transportation provider. 846 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 3: How about the forty four yard touchdown reception by the 847 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 3: incredible Chi Higgins. 848 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 4: I couldn't believe that was from my perspective. I thought 849 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 4: there's no way. And even if you listen to Flaco 850 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 4: in the post game, he says he just threw that 851 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,240 Speaker 4: ball up there because he had man coverage and he's 852 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 4: fully expected to be incomplete out of bounser or knocked down, 853 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 4: And sure enough he came down with them catch you. 854 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 4: We're right at the top of him. It was one 855 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 4: of the greatest catches you'll see. 856 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 3: It came just seventeen seconds after Cairo Santos's field goal, 857 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 3: the Bears a seventeen to thirteen lead, and here Higgins 858 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 3: is with a buck twelve to go before halftime, forty 859 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 3: four yards. 860 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 2: The coverage was like draped all over him. 861 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 3: There was a flag on the play against the defense, 862 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,720 Speaker 3: and he went up and somehow caught that that football. 863 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 2: It kept going. 864 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 4: The second touchdown was just as good. The one he 865 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,479 Speaker 4: caught and rolled into the ends on that one side. Yes, yeah, 866 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 4: that's the one that they got in. The judge on 867 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 4: that side said it was down at the one yard mind, 868 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 4: that's exactly right. It's crazy. Yeah, what a day for Tea. 869 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 2: It really was. 870 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 3: And nine targets, seven catches for one hundred and twenty 871 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 3: one yards as seventeen point three yard average with that 872 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 3: long game of forty four touchdown. 873 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 4: Everybody that caught the ball today had huge plays, you know. 874 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 4: I mean, you don't throw the ball for four in 875 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 4: the seven yards and have a lot of big plays. 876 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 4: But you can't stop anybody. That's that's the problem. And 877 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 4: what's enough? How you you got to score every time 878 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 4: he had the ball. You feel like if you if 879 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 4: you have to punt, you throw on the game away. 880 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 3: Both teams only punted one time. Incredible, but once again, 881 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 3: that was the delivery of the game brought to you 882 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 3: by RNL Carriers. Visit RLC dot com and make RNL 883 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 3: Carriers your global transportation provider. 884 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 2: Let's go back out to the phones. We've got Mike 885 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 2: and Jerry Grove. 886 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 14: Mike, Hey, no need to rehash all the Uh yeah, 887 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 14: how you doing? 888 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 18: Uh? 889 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 16: No need to rehead most of what happened out there 890 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,760 Speaker 16: because it's a broken record. 891 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 5: Uh. 892 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 19: Couple things I saw that. I thought Orlando Brown was 893 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 19: an All Pro. He got knocked on his butt by 894 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,240 Speaker 19: a guy that's. 895 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 20: Smaller name on that stumble. 896 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 5: Two guys there, you think you'd. 897 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 19: Be pumped up you can't make the tackle. 898 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 14: But real quick, a couple of things. 899 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 10: You can tell me what you. 900 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 19: Think the off side on the missfield goal. That guy's 901 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 19: head was almost completely across the line. Don't can't they 902 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 19: tell when they're lined up off side? 903 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 14: They couldn't believe that? 904 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 19: DJ Yes, another thing, I hope I don't hear any 905 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 19: more talk about Burrow coming back because. 906 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 14: There's no need for that. 907 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 11: And I'm looking at. 908 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 19: The schedule and you think it's bad, now, it's gonna 909 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 19: get worse. The Steelers, they'll kill them. I think the 910 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 19: pages in them. But then they got the Ravens, Bills Ravens, 911 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 19: those guys are licking their chopped You you talk about yardage, now. 912 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 16: Wait till they play those guys. 913 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 19: I don't think they can win another game unless it's 914 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 19: trash games at the end of the year. Maybe maybe 915 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 19: the Cardinals, maybe the Browns. 916 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 6: But good season's toast. 917 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 19: There's not too much reason to talk about anymore unless 918 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 19: you just like pain. Thanks a lot, man. 919 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 2: Oh, we're Cincinnati fans. 920 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 12: Man. 921 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 2: We have endured our share. 922 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 5: We are resilient. We are resilient. 923 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 4: And you know, if you come down to the stadium 924 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 4: to watch offense, you know, Joe Joe Flacko and the 925 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 4: boys have given us offense. Yeah, I think it's a 926 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 4: it's a great opportunity. Now the defense has improved. We 927 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 4: can go through that over and over and over. Ornando 928 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 4: Brown has had a tough, tough goal over lately and 929 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 4: and he needs to play better. And and that was 930 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 4: a frustration that like probably calls that fight. You know, 931 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 4: he got bold rushed in the cause of fumble and uh, 932 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 4: the next play got pressured. And you know, he's got 933 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 4: a prize. He's a prideful guy. He's had a great history. 934 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on with his technique or 935 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 4: or what, but he's obviously working hard. 936 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 5: But it's not painting out. 937 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 2: Hey, do we have Tenny in Westchester. 938 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 14: Thanks for taking my call. 939 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 5: So here's my point. 940 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 21: I am waiting for Zach to be honest in his 941 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 21: press conference after a game like this one and say 942 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 21: the defense sucks. 943 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,720 Speaker 6: They are horrible. They can't tackle. 944 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 21: I mean that last take it down to you know, 945 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 21: I give all the credit to our special teams and 946 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 21: the offense Joe Flacco. 947 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,720 Speaker 5: God blessed Joe Flacco. 948 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 21: They got them in the position to win this game 949 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 21: at the end of the end of the game. And 950 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 21: what happened. They get down to the end of the 951 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 21: game and they're that final pass play by the Bears 952 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 21: and there had to be at least three Bengals around 953 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,919 Speaker 21: that dude, and none of them can tackle that guy. 954 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 21: Are you kidding me? I mean the tackling on this 955 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,720 Speaker 21: team is terrible. It's terrible. 956 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 4: Now, well, I think on the first thing about Zach, 957 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 4: he can come out and say I mean, some coaches 958 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 4: will come right out and say it publicly. Uh, He's 959 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 4: he's a player's coach, and he's he's not going to 960 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 4: dress people down in public. What he says behind the scenes, 961 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 4: we don't know. And I think I think that's his 962 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 4: way of handling this type of thing. But it's gonna 963 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 4: come down on him, you know, that's the bottom line. 964 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 4: It's gonna come down on the head coach and his 965 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 4: assistance if something doesn't change quickly. And then as good 966 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 4: as they are offensively and as good as an offense 967 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 4: can play. Obviously, Joe Burrow is a big loss, but 968 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 4: Flacco is outperforming all expectations. And where would this team 969 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 4: be without Joe Flacco? These games wouldn't be close, you know, 970 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 4: in terms of playing these opponents, the Steelers and the Ravens. 971 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,760 Speaker 4: Their defense hasn't been a whole lot better than ours. 972 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 4: They've just got some good triggerment on the other Sideble. 973 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's incredible, yeahs old. 974 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 21: And he's playing this game on an injury, a painful injury, 975 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 21: and what he threw for damn near five hundred yards offense? 976 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 12: Are you kidding me? 977 00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,359 Speaker 5: Yep? Yeah? 978 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 4: And then and then, and that's that's part of the 979 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 4: problem is is as good as he is throwing from 980 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,839 Speaker 4: the pocket, he's not a mobile guy. And so when 981 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 4: you're a pass rusher, you're coming after the quarterback. You 982 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 4: know where Joe's gonna be, you know, And and so 983 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 4: that makes everybody's on the offensive line's job more difficult 984 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 4: because you know where the guy is. He's gonna throw 985 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 4: it quick. He's gonna get it to the open receiver 986 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 4: if he has time, and they just there were times 987 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 4: they didn't give him any time. 988 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 21: He blew to this game. They lost this game. Everybody 989 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 21: on the defense needs to pay Joe Flacco like one 990 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 21: hundred grand out of their pay because the way he 991 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 21: played this game and they lost this game for his effort. 992 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 5: I'm going to. 993 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 3: Slather repeat right and appreciate the call there, Thank you 994 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 3: very much. And gosh, look at a Caleb Williams here. 995 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:58,320 Speaker 3: He was the elusive butterfly. Five rushes fifty three yards, 996 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 3: that's ten point six yards six per Okay, he was 997 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 3: twenty of thirty four throwing for two hundred and eighty yards. 998 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 3: He was sacked twice, three touchdowns, including the long game 999 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 3: on the final fifty eight yarder, and he caught two passes. 1000 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's rare. That's a rare combination. 1001 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 3: Just incredible for twenty two yards and a touchdown. 1002 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 4: And watching and watching the game. Though he wasn't sitting 1003 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 4: in the pocket, the defense, the line got a lot 1004 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 4: of pressure. They forced him to scramble all over the place, 1005 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 4: but they never were able to get him on the 1006 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 4: ground or take away his vision from the downfield, and 1007 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 4: so as he scrambled around a lot more time and 1008 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 4: then you can't cover anybody for eight seconds. Actually in 1009 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 4: any league. Absolutely you got pressure that forced him to scramble, 1010 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 4: and that that's a no go. You got to keep 1011 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 4: him in the pocket. You get no pressure. He stands 1012 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 4: around there and looks. So something has to change in 1013 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 4: the scheme of things that we go after him more. 1014 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 4: You know, Hendrickson back, who knows. But in the next 1015 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 4: two weeks, they got two weeks to fix the problem. 1016 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 3: And we've reached the top of the hour break and 1017 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 3: you're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post game 1018 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 3: Sports Talk presented by RNL carriers Chick Ludwig alongside Bengals 1019 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 3: legendary offensive lineman Bruce Kazerski. 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If we're breaking down the Bengals forty 1041 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 3: seven to forty two loss to the Chicago Bears lack 1042 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 3: a wrecking ball. Mike Mills' are awesome. On site engineer 1043 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 3: Joe Waddell producing back in our Kenwood Studios, wings Burgers, sandwiches, salads, appetizers, 1044 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 3: drink specials, wings and rings, has it all. We're here 1045 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 3: till eight thirty tonight and you're invited. And if you. 1046 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 2: Can't make it, give us a call. 1047 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 3: Five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand, one eight hundred, 1048 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:22,399 Speaker 3: the Big One. 1049 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 2: This is the place to vent. 1050 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 3: And Bruce and I are talking off the air about 1051 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 3: all the different disastrous games. The Bengals lost to the 1052 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,880 Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine ers trying to run out the cruise, 1053 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 3: and that Eric Thomas gets lit up by Jerry Rice. 1054 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:44,760 Speaker 3: And then we launched Brett Farve's career in Green Bay. Gosh, 1055 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 3: Carl Pickens runs back a punt for a touchdown his 1056 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 3: rookie year. They knocked on Mkowski out of the game, 1057 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 3: and on comes this second year dude who got traded 1058 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 3: from Atlanta in the offseason, Brett Favre, and he throws 1059 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 3: the touchdown pass to Kitch Taylor in the final minute. 1060 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 5: I've been there, I've been there, done that. 1061 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 12: Yeah. 1062 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 2: And then the Kansas City game, Oh my gosh. 1063 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 5: It just you're crazy. Denver in Cincinnati, Denver and Cincinnati. 1064 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 3: Leon Hall bats the ball but he goes up in 1065 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 3: the air and the Denver receiver grabs it right after 1066 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 3: Cedric Benson scored a touchdown, and the dude goes like 1067 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 3: with nobody else left, nobody, nobody's there, tips it up 1068 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 3: seventy yards seventy yards and he kind of walks along 1069 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 3: the one yard line to burn some more clock and 1070 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 3: then steps into the end zone and just like that, 1071 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 3: you're shocked. So the Bengals masters of disasters today was 1072 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 3: another one. 1073 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 2: How can you give up forty seven points? 1074 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 4: Well, just come to Cincinnati. It's it's it's it's really, 1075 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 4: it's really a shame. I don't doubt these guys are 1076 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,959 Speaker 4: giving it what they got, but they're what they got 1077 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 4: is not good enough. They're not tackling well enough. And 1078 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 4: again it's not just a recent issue. It's been the 1079 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 4: whole progressive season, and we just it sticks out now 1080 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,479 Speaker 4: that you're scoring so many points, to score eighty points 1081 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,840 Speaker 4: in two weeks and still still lose both games. 1082 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 3: And my partner here, Bruce Kazerski, he talked about it 1083 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 3: when he first came into the store tonight that the 1084 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 3: Bengals had a defensive meeting, so you knew they were 1085 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 3: gonna come out and showed great energy. They're running around, 1086 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 3: they're flying around, and what does Caleb Williams do? He 1087 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 3: takes advantage of their aggressiveness. They are running the Bengals 1088 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 3: every which way but loose double pass throw back. Oh, 1089 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,320 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams catches a touchdown? 1090 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 5: Will he catches two passes today? 1091 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's playing too. 1092 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,720 Speaker 5: They took advantage of our meeting. 1093 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 3: Yes, took advantage of yes, yes. 1094 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 5: You gotta. 1095 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 4: They came out flying and the defense was flying. They 1096 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 4: were gonna make plays at all the best intentions, and 1097 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 4: then they took advantage of us slowed us down. And 1098 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,280 Speaker 4: then you see the same over again. Once they slowed 1099 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 4: us down. You see the same thing over and over 1100 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:03,879 Speaker 4: and over. 1101 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,320 Speaker 3: Well, let's highlight the drive of the game. Bruce, brought 1102 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 3: to you by the BMW Store. They're over three hundred 1103 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 3: and fifty BMW centers in the United States, but there's 1104 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 3: only one store, the BMW Store where Passion loves Company. Well, 1105 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 3: how about right after the on sidekick recovery, the Bengals 1106 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 3: drive six plays fifty seven yards. It only took forty 1107 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 3: nine seconds and Joe Flacco, whoop, not your touchdown? Passed 1108 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 3: to Andre Joseavash and then the extra point by Evan McPherson, 1109 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 3: giving the Bengals a forty two to forty one lead 1110 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 3: with fifty four. 1111 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 2: Seconds to go. 1112 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a miracle win, No, and then it wasn't. 1113 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 5: That's what I said at that point. 1114 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 4: If they'd only been down by two points, they will 1115 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 4: have taken all that time off the clock and sell 1116 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 4: it for a field goal to win the game. But 1117 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 4: you can't do that when you're down a touchdown. You 1118 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 4: gotta score when you can. Big play, big play, what 1119 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 4: little plays, big play, whatever it is. And we left 1120 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 4: fifty seven seconds or so on o'clock and that was 1121 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 4: too many. 1122 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. 1123 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 10: And uh. 1124 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 3: Colston Loveland from the University of Michigan, a rookie, he 1125 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 3: has a career day, and it happens against the Cincinnati Bengals. 1126 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 3: We're becoming like everyone's home coming. That's what it's starting 1127 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 3: to feel like. 1128 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 5: I'm looking up Cole Comett. He had a field day 1129 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 5: as well. 1130 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 3: Colston Loveland seven targets, six catches, one hundred and eighteen 1131 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 3: yards nineteen point seven per two touchdowns, including the long 1132 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 3: of fifty eight yards, and once again, Bruce Kazerski. 1133 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 2: The Bengals get burned and murdered by a tight end. 1134 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 4: Awful Cole Commet he had an It only said one here. 1135 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 4: I thought he had several big ones. It was the 1136 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 4: other guy. Yeah, yeah, Colston love one and just yet brutal. 1137 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 4: You know you're taking away from receivers. I get it, 1138 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 4: but that tight end is another in this league, tight 1139 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 4: ends are great receivers and you got to find a 1140 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 4: way to handle that. They're bigger fellas, so maybe they 1141 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 4: don't want to hit him. I don't know, but but 1142 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 4: this this is just not going to get we get 1143 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 4: it done, and it's is it more and more discipin 1144 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 4: this morning every week and the fans leave more and 1145 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 4: more frustrated every week, and you know, it's just it's 1146 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 4: just not good for business. 1147 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones. 1148 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 3: Is Aaron from Greenville still with us? 1149 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 22: Hi, guys, it's good to good to talk with you tonight. 1150 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 22: Always good to be on with chicken, Bruce. I want 1151 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 22: to start with one thing. First off, we need to 1152 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 22: get Jim breaching in the Ring of Honor. He's a 1153 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 22: he's one of the brigals, legends. Always always good to 1154 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 22: hear him when he's on the postgame show. But the 1155 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 22: unfortunate part about the last two weeks is this what 1156 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 22: we've signed up for. You know, We've we've invested a 1157 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 22: ton of our cap space into offense and have no 1158 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 22: cap space to put into any defensive players. And we're 1159 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 22: playing a bunch of young guys. I mean today, I'm 1160 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 22: I'm at the game today as a season ticket holder, 1161 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 22: and we're looking up on the Bengals roster some of 1162 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 22: the defensive guys that are on the field. So our 1163 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 22: inability to tackle is a direct reflection of our inability 1164 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 22: to pay defensive players. 1165 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 4: Completely agree, There's there's a lot of money and invested 1166 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 4: in a handful of guys, and uh, I mean, these 1167 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 4: other guys aren't making chump change. Don't get me wrong. 1168 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 4: Uh they were. They were drafted to play defense in 1169 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 4: the NFL, and that means they must be pretty good 1170 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 4: and they're just not tackling right now. 1171 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 5: It doesn't matter whether minim. 1172 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 22: Yeah, I agree with that completely, But when when when 1173 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 22: you've got you when you have the opportunity to buy 1174 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 22: a paid you know, a proven commodity that you've seen 1175 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 22: prove themselves in the NFL, versus that risk of the draft. 1176 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 22: You know, the draft is always a risk when you're 1177 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 22: when when you're drafting guys, you never really know if 1178 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 22: they're going to be a quality NFL player. And you 1179 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 22: know what, let's go to Logan Wilson for for for 1180 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 22: three years, he's as good as a linebacker as we've got, 1181 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 22: and here recently he can't tackle, you know, and he's 1182 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 22: he's one of the guys we've invested money in. Orlando 1183 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 22: Brown today was it was embarrassing to watch some of 1184 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 22: those defensive those defensive ends push him around. I mean, 1185 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 22: that's that's that guy was supposed to be an answer 1186 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 22: we've got. We've got sixteen million dollars invested in in 1187 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 22: a in a left tackle that gets thrown around like 1188 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 22: a rag doll. He's getting used as a weapon, he's 1189 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 22: getting thrown on our quarterback. At what point? At what 1190 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 22: point do we start talking about we've invested too much 1191 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 22: money in an offense that scores a bunch of points. 1192 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 22: It's fun to look at It's like buying a Ferrari 1193 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 22: but not really looking under the hood to see if 1194 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 22: it's got any of the part that are going to 1195 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 22: win win the game and and our defensively, we we 1196 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 22: scored eighty points in two weeks, and we were walking 1197 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 22: away of that stadium disappointed both weeks because we can't 1198 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 22: stop anybody. Jamar Chase said it in the locker or 1199 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 22: in the hallway walking out today. One Efen he actually 1200 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 22: said the word, but one Efen stopped. We didn't get it. 1201 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, our offense is a ferrari. Our defense is a galope. 1202 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 5: It's that that. 1203 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 22: Galope, whatever you want to call it. 1204 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 4: You know, that was that was important to negotiate a 1205 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 4: part of it. Everybody's everybody's wanting Jamar and t and 1206 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 4: and Joe and and uh, all these guys under big 1207 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 4: buck contracts. They wanted to stay in town. And that's 1208 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 4: just the way the league is structured anymore, you know. 1209 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 4: But but you know, you got to find some money 1210 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 4: for the defensive side of the ball. The revenue sharing 1211 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 4: eye and I don't know what the what the salary 1212 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 4: cap is and how it's going to affect us the 1213 01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 4: rest of the way. But like you said, Orlando Brown's 1214 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 4: having a bad couple of weeks here, if not more, 1215 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 4: and something's got to change. He's a guy that was 1216 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 4: brought in here to solve problems. And uh right now 1217 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 4: that that's that's a lot of the that's the best 1218 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 4: pass rushers on that side. 1219 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 5: He was here and here's brought here to solve. 1220 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,439 Speaker 2: It and Aaron, we got to run. Appreciate the call. 1221 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, appreciated, Thank you. Thank You're listening 1222 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 3: to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented 1223 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 3: by R and L Carriers. 1224 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,480 Speaker 2: We're live at Wings and Rings and Oakley. 1225 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 3: Forty six fifteen Factory Colony Lane until eight thirty tonight. 1226 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:39,919 Speaker 3: Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski seven hundred WLW at Cincinnati's 1227 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame 1228 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 3: Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. This is Jick Ludwig. 1229 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 3: I'm alongside my good friend and Bengals legend Bruce Kozerski, 1230 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 3: and we are live at Wings and Rings and Oakley 1231 01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,160 Speaker 3: on Factory Colony Lane. We're here till eight thirty tonight, 1232 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,840 Speaker 3: and this is the place to vent taking your calls. 1233 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 3: Let's go out to the phones. We got is this. 1234 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 2: Bill and Dayton? 1235 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 20: Yeah, that's me, thanks guys. All right, Bill, Bill's a 1236 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 20: burn building on an earlier caller, how about we and 1237 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 20: the defense from posing and flexing and performing on plays 1238 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 20: five thousand dollars per occurrence until after their next win. 1239 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1240 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 3: Don't you love it when a guy makes a play 1241 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 3: and they pose and then they get burned on the 1242 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 3: next play. Yeah, it's the game. 1243 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 20: Yeah, show some colass and play the game. Yeah, that's 1244 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:46,160 Speaker 20: all I got to think. 1245 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 3: Right, all right, appreciate it. Jeff is in Dayton, the 1246 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:59,840 Speaker 3: Jem City. Hi, Jeff, Okay, we've got Brooks in Southern Illinois. 1247 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 2: Brooks, what's going on? 1248 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,439 Speaker 10: Hey, thanks thanking my call. 1249 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 5: Yes, sir, family, I've had a long time with her. 1250 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 14: And my falls when I was in high school on 1251 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 14: forts Pump Trump. 1252 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 7: Love. 1253 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 2: Hey, Brooks, you're up. 1254 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 3: You're fading in and out, but you're exactly right. Bob 1255 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:36,080 Speaker 3: Trumpy the Godfather, Okay. I got to interview him several 1256 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 3: times over the years. Loved him, absolutely loved him, and 1257 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,280 Speaker 3: he had an edge to him, but man, the kindest heart, 1258 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 3: he really did. And he told just the greatest story 1259 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 3: about training camp. How Paul Brown had air conditioning in 1260 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:58,560 Speaker 3: his room and Bob was able to secure what he 1261 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 3: called an air cooler and he was busted, but he 1262 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 3: was able to say, it's not an air conditioner, it's 1263 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 3: a air cooler that he got out of an addict 1264 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 3: from a woman's house that he knew, and just just 1265 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,160 Speaker 3: awesome stuff. And he was a tight end, but a 1266 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,160 Speaker 3: wide receiver. The dude could flank out. He had unbelievable 1267 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 3: speed and just a tremendous all around player. And yeah, 1268 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 3: early on in his career, I mean, Paul Is bringing 1269 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:35,240 Speaker 3: players in left and right, flying them in, uh, working 1270 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,800 Speaker 3: them out in Wilmington, giving him a bus ticket back 1271 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 3: to the airport. And man, the odds of Bob Trump 1272 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 3: he making it were minimal, and man, he convinced them. 1273 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 3: And then as a broadcaster, gosh, nobody better, nobody better. 1274 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 2: He's in the he's an enshrined in Canton. 1275 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 3: The Pro Football Hall of Fame as a broadcaster for 1276 01:06:59,160 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 3: the NFL. 1277 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 2: And just what a voice and what knowledge. 1278 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 23: Absolutely can you hear me any better? 1279 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 5: Now? Yes? 1280 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 23: Yes, okay, I've got a follow up question though about 1281 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,440 Speaker 23: the current day Bengals. 1282 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:14,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1283 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 23: I like Bruce's analysis. So obviously the defense is our 1284 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 23: major problem. As we all know, I can't tackle, we 1285 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 23: can't get after the passer much. I can't get off 1286 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 23: the field on third down. You know everything, but there's 1287 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 23: one thing at the top of the list that the 1288 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 23: Steelers used against us, that the Jets used against this, 1289 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,480 Speaker 23: that this game today was used against this, and that 1290 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 23: is simply defending the off tackle run to the right side, 1291 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,960 Speaker 23: especially either the B gap or the C gap, either one. 1292 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,040 Speaker 23: If they ran at one hundred times, they're going to 1293 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 23: get positive yards ninety nine times out of one hundred, 1294 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 23: and most of the time it's ten yards. So can 1295 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 23: you explain to us, Bruce, what is going on why 1296 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 23: we cannot defend that play? 1297 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 4: I had I had a very similar first thought when 1298 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 4: I when I was sitting out there watching the game today. 1299 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,280 Speaker 4: They seem to be running so much to the offensive 1300 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 4: right side to our defensive left side. 1301 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 5: And you know, when you game plan. 1302 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,320 Speaker 4: You scheme things up, you you kind of have your 1303 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,679 Speaker 4: favorite places to run. You not only is it your 1304 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 4: matchups because of who you have playing on your right side, 1305 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 4: but it's also maybe the defense of who they have 1306 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,439 Speaker 4: playing on their left side. And it might be that 1307 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 4: you really favor the matchup the last few weeks or 1308 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,599 Speaker 4: the last three weeks, and you're seeing the same kind 1309 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 4: of result every every week, week in and week out. 1310 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 5: Today that that. 1311 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 4: First year player average seven yards of carried almost on 1312 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 4: the same type of same type of play. 1313 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 5: And again, yeah, you know what's coming. 1314 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,800 Speaker 4: I'm sitting up there in the first row of the club. 1315 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 4: If they're thinking here it comes again, they gotta know 1316 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 4: what's coming. 1317 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 11: Seven. 1318 01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,439 Speaker 14: One other follow up, one other follow up. 1319 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 23: There to that last week after the Jets game, you 1320 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,599 Speaker 23: mentioned that they would come out and be overloaded, uh, 1321 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 23: to one side, and it looked like we didn't adjust 1322 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 23: to that. 1323 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:14,600 Speaker 4: They overloaded their formation, they brought another offensive lineman or 1324 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,640 Speaker 4: they put two extra tight ends on that side, and 1325 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:17,400 Speaker 4: we didn't adjust. 1326 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,719 Speaker 23: Did they do that again today and not adjust? 1327 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1328 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 23: Well then, I mean this is not this is like 1329 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 23: football one on one. I mean, what's the problem there 1330 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,080 Speaker 23: On the defensive coaching side. 1331 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,719 Speaker 4: Well, you I guess they played on filling those holes 1332 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 4: with the linebackers and safeties. 1333 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 5: I mean we look at all that. 1334 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 4: No, it's not the safety. The safety led the team 1335 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:39,160 Speaker 4: in tackles. 1336 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:39,160 Speaker 2: That's it. 1337 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,519 Speaker 3: But all the dbs hit all the tackles and that 1338 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,960 Speaker 3: tells you right there they were busted through the line, and. 1339 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 5: Uh, they're in the second level before you can blink. 1340 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 23: That's right the second and they're getting blown off the 1341 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,799 Speaker 23: line of scrimmage too. It seems like our defensive tackles 1342 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 23: aren't really helping us much. I don't think crazy, I 1343 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 23: don't know, Brooks. 1344 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 3: We got to run. We've reached the bottom of the 1345 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,439 Speaker 3: hour break. Thank you so much. Hey, you're to the 1346 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 3: Tri State Chevy Dealers post game Sports Talk presented by 1347 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,679 Speaker 3: RNL Carriers. He's Bruce Kazerski. This is Chick Ludwig. We're 1348 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,559 Speaker 3: live in Wings and Rings in Oakley until eight thirty 1349 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:20,440 Speaker 3: tonight on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 1350 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,879 Speaker 3: You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports 1351 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:29,040 Speaker 3: Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We're live at the Wings 1352 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 3: and Rings in Oakley Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski, and 1353 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,599 Speaker 3: we're talking Bengals football. They fall today forty seven to 1354 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 3: forty two to the Chicago Bears, so close to a 1355 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:48,640 Speaker 3: miracle win to come back from fourteen down, outscoring Chicago 1356 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 3: fifteen zero in a matter of forty nine seconds, but 1357 01:10:54,560 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 3: they left enough time fifty four seconds left and Colston 1358 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 3: Loveland hauls in a fifty eight yard pass from Caleb 1359 01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 3: Williams and two guys right there they bounce off of him. 1360 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 4: They need that block tackle. Instead of wrapping them up, 1361 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,439 Speaker 4: they just block. You know, you give him to make him, 1362 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,599 Speaker 4: make him make a field goal from there for crying out. 1363 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,360 Speaker 2: Uh, absolutely, it just it hurts. 1364 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,639 Speaker 3: And I finally got to see the final play because 1365 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,320 Speaker 3: heck we're driving, you know, I'm driving to get here 1366 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,559 Speaker 3: to Oakley and listening at the at the very end. 1367 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 3: So hey, do we have John in Cedarville still with us? 1368 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 14: Hello? 1369 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 19: Yeah, John, Yeah, John, go ahead, we'll be recorded good evening. 1370 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 11: Uh, rooms and get. 1371 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,960 Speaker 5: Good evening, can you hear me? Yes? 1372 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,360 Speaker 2: Yes? What's on your mind? 1373 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:59,040 Speaker 11: Hey listen? I just want to start off again another week, 1374 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:05,200 Speaker 11: h Boker can't run without his feet and and then 1375 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 11: again you start off the game with a with with 1376 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 11: a run back. You're up seven nothing top the press 1377 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 11: out board is your defense? You know, seven nothing's enough 1378 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 11: to win the ball game. Oh you got to just 1379 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 11: go out and play defense, rest away and maybe shut 1380 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,879 Speaker 11: him out. Then you go home with a victory. 1381 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:31,639 Speaker 5: Yeah later yeah, yes, yeah, and. 1382 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:35,000 Speaker 11: Then you got you got you got Flacoh he may 1383 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 11: just see the NFL Comeback Player of the Year this 1384 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 11: this season, and he's being overshadowed by a bad defense. 1385 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,760 Speaker 11: I mean, come on, some guy's got to pick it 1386 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 11: up if it I mean here and you look at 1387 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 11: the rest of the schedule. I mean, you're either gonna 1388 01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 11: lay them either they're gonna lay you out. But there's 1389 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,320 Speaker 11: nothing intimidating left on that dag on schedule the rest 1390 01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 11: of the season. 1391 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,639 Speaker 3: Hey, the Baltimore Ravens are getting healthy, John. The Baltimore 1392 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,640 Speaker 3: Ravens now have Lamar Jackson back, so they're going to 1393 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:07,280 Speaker 3: be difficult. 1394 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers are waiting. 1395 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,320 Speaker 3: They're waiting for the Bengals in a couple of weeks. 1396 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,639 Speaker 3: And John, Hey, appreciate the call. You call us every week. 1397 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,640 Speaker 3: We thank you. We've got to move on. Appreciate you. 1398 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 2: Austin Bob Trumpy real quick. 1399 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 11: I just want to say prayers to his family and 1400 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,800 Speaker 11: and thank you Bob Trumpy for taking my first call 1401 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:39,360 Speaker 11: to WLW Sports Talks mat before Chris Collins took over. 1402 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:45,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely appreciate that. Thank you very much. Hey, We've got 1403 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 3: Mike in La. Mike, welcome back to seven hundred WLW. 1404 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:52,120 Speaker 2: Man. We love you. 1405 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 14: Well, you Chip don Donah Scottie May reincarnated. 1406 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,680 Speaker 3: I see La, and all I can think of is 1407 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,520 Speaker 3: the Dodgers beating Toronto. 1408 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:08,920 Speaker 13: Oh. 1409 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,280 Speaker 14: I didn't want to lead off with it, but man, 1410 01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:16,639 Speaker 14: I'm still in seventh freaking heaven. Brother, that's the best 1411 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,200 Speaker 14: world series. That's the best world series we've had in 1412 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:21,360 Speaker 14: many years. 1413 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 2: And what were you thinking? 1414 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:29,000 Speaker 3: What were you thinking when pa Has basically slams into 1415 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 3: t k Hernandez It makes that catch. 1416 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 14: Unbelievable because Kek can always get it done, but pa 1417 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 14: Has is a gold glover. No, I was freaking out. 1418 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,599 Speaker 14: I was most my pants. 1419 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 3: To be honest with you, Well, I didn't see who 1420 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:50,919 Speaker 3: was named the MVP, but in my mind Yoshi Yama Moto. 1421 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 3: That dude was a absolute beast. 1422 01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 14: That was the MVP, and well, well well deserved. But 1423 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,040 Speaker 14: if it wasn't for our starting pitchers, we'd have never 1424 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,320 Speaker 14: won that damn thing. So thank God for those fellows 1425 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 14: because we sure as hell couldn't hit. But I'm glad 1426 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 14: you brought it up because I still have a smile 1427 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,200 Speaker 14: on my face. But it's somewhat diminish with the passing 1428 01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:18,040 Speaker 14: a Trump. You know, people don't realize this guy was 1429 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:24,600 Speaker 14: a tremendous golf analyst on NBC for years. 1430 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 16: Oh and thank the football, football football. 1431 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 14: But like like he was saying earlier, Trump, Trump was 1432 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,479 Speaker 14: very intelligent man, very intelligent man. 1433 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,080 Speaker 3: And wepics for crying out loud. The guy was so 1434 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,320 Speaker 3: versatile for for NBC. 1435 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 2: It was amazing. 1436 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 5: I did his homework. He was always prepared. 1437 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:50,640 Speaker 14: Yes, yes, was he was around before you, right cause. 1438 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,280 Speaker 4: Yes he was. He was doing radio in Cincinnati when 1439 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:54,760 Speaker 4: I got here. 1440 01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 14: Okay, well, yeah, I just want prayers out to his family. 1441 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 14: God love them. But I'm looking at the rest of 1442 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 14: this Bengal schedule, Fellas Heelers on the road after the 1443 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:12,240 Speaker 14: buy Patriots at home, Ravens on the road, Bills on 1444 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,120 Speaker 14: the road, Ravens at home, Dolphins there. You might win 1445 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,000 Speaker 14: that one. Cards. I don't know if they can beat 1446 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 14: Arizona and then the Browns, who knows. I don't see 1447 01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,799 Speaker 14: many more wins, guys. I'm just sorry. 1448 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 3: I don't I agree with you, and I think the 1449 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:33,160 Speaker 3: line went to six and a half, you know, over 1450 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,200 Speaker 3: under six and a half. I'm not picking them to 1451 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,840 Speaker 3: win seven games, not the way they're playing now. 1452 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:42,400 Speaker 4: No, Well, it's the NFL, everybody, everybody on any given 1453 01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,200 Speaker 4: Sunday can win, and we've proven that we have the 1454 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:49,679 Speaker 4: ability to lose, and even when we score forty two points, 1455 01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,200 Speaker 4: which should not happen. 1456 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's happened twice. 1457 01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:59,120 Speaker 14: Because with your Harold background and the great offensive lines 1458 01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,400 Speaker 14: you played with, how and then I know you got 1459 01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 14: to go. How do you explain how things have kind 1460 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:10,720 Speaker 14: of diminished with our drafting capabilities, our development capabilities. Do 1461 01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 14: you have any insight into that? 1462 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:18,040 Speaker 4: Cause, well, my offensive line, Anthony Munos was the only 1463 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,600 Speaker 4: first round pick on it. We had two six to 1464 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,760 Speaker 4: seven and I was a nine across the board. They 1465 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,639 Speaker 4: don't even have they don't have that many many rounds anymore. 1466 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,320 Speaker 4: But the coaches, it was a coaching They brought us 1467 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,719 Speaker 4: along and made us players and made us play together. 1468 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,120 Speaker 4: And we were healthy enough, fortunate enough to stay healthy 1469 01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 4: for the entire period of time. And you know, these 1470 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 4: guys are transient because of the free agency markets and everything. 1471 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,000 Speaker 4: They move in and out and it's hard to get 1472 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,360 Speaker 4: that cohesiveness. And we seem to be playing much much 1473 01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:50,080 Speaker 4: better as an offensive line. But right now, defensively, you know, 1474 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,560 Speaker 4: we couldn't tackle our way. You know, out of the box. 1475 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:56,000 Speaker 18: Right now. 1476 01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 5: Was the best, the best. Jim was the best line 1477 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,200 Speaker 5: coach in this football absolutely. 1478 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 14: I mean I'm I'm a native Cincinnati. 1479 01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,479 Speaker 10: And born and raced and proud of it. 1480 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,840 Speaker 14: But I've been in California for a long long time 1481 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:15,639 Speaker 14: after Vietnam. But how do you Oh gosh, I always 1482 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,360 Speaker 14: do this. I've lost my train of thought. I'm sorry, guys, 1483 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:19,840 Speaker 14: thanks for the time. I appreciate it. 1484 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,040 Speaker 3: I appreciate appreciate it. Mike, Yeah, thank you so much. 1485 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 2: Man. 1486 01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 4: You just well, Scott Peters was doing doing a heck 1487 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,320 Speaker 4: of a job because these guys. When the season started, 1488 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,160 Speaker 4: it was a nightmare. You watched Joe Burrow run for 1489 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,439 Speaker 4: his life until he finally got hurt. 1490 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:36,160 Speaker 5: Uh. 1491 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,360 Speaker 4: And then the first week that Flacca was in here, 1492 01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 4: it wasn't a whole lot better. But all of a sudden, 1493 01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,519 Speaker 4: now we're running the ball, we're able to pass protect 1494 01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,920 Speaker 4: most of the time, and sometimes we've got to get 1495 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,960 Speaker 4: some help. I don't know what happened with Orlando today 1496 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:49,680 Speaker 4: because he didn't do that last week or the week 1497 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 4: before early in the season. Yes, it could be the matchup, 1498 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,040 Speaker 4: could be that that player happened to have his number 1499 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but I know it has been better, 1500 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,439 Speaker 4: and I we give a lot of respect to Scott 1501 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,200 Speaker 4: Peters from his ability to get that out of those guys. 1502 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,200 Speaker 4: Something has to happen on the other side of the ball. 1503 01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,559 Speaker 4: Though it's not the offensive uh collapse in the last 1504 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,760 Speaker 4: few weeks. It's the defensive collapse. And you know that 1505 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,200 Speaker 4: somehow the coach has got to get more out of them, 1506 01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,760 Speaker 4: and and and and scheme and whether it's schematic ley 1507 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,120 Speaker 4: or or what, because there there's not not ugh not 1508 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:24,960 Speaker 4: not enough success on that side of the ball. 1509 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:25,720 Speaker 2: I can back to. 1510 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,200 Speaker 3: One p one punt, one punt. I could just hear 1511 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:33,280 Speaker 3: former defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer. You know, four guys and 1512 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,280 Speaker 3: then the linebackers fill. 1513 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:36,799 Speaker 2: The gas and. 1514 01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:39,360 Speaker 5: They're gaping holes. 1515 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,920 Speaker 2: You saw what Manangae did today. 1516 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,320 Speaker 4: They're running the stretch plays just so everybody knows they're 1517 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,439 Speaker 4: running a stretch play, so they're they're getting a lot 1518 01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,920 Speaker 4: of lateral movement, and all they gotta do is get 1519 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,960 Speaker 4: one guy out of his own one guy not clean 1520 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,720 Speaker 4: in his in the proper hole, and there's a there's 1521 01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,400 Speaker 4: a hole there for the running back to get through. 1522 01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,760 Speaker 4: And then these guys are so powerful, it's difficult to 1523 01:19:58,760 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 4: make arm tackles. 1524 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:00,559 Speaker 5: You gotta let what to them. 1525 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,880 Speaker 4: You gotta shoulder pads and helmet down on there and 1526 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,240 Speaker 4: get and get physical. And and I think sometimes we're reaching, 1527 01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,919 Speaker 4: especially on it's a safety coming down or a cornerback 1528 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,720 Speaker 4: having to come up. I watched them run a jet 1529 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,040 Speaker 4: sweep today, and you can see the motion coming. The 1530 01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,600 Speaker 4: defensive end on the other side of the ball is 1531 01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,040 Speaker 4: standing up. He has to see it coming. And yet 1532 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,840 Speaker 4: he did not widen a split second, not a foot. 1533 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,760 Speaker 4: You know, you're seeing the ball coming at you, you know, 1534 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:25,479 Speaker 4: you don't widen the foot, and before you know what, 1535 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,600 Speaker 4: the ball's around you, like you're surprised. 1536 01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,920 Speaker 3: Just crazy. You're right and off to the races. Yeah, 1537 01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 3: and that's what this was today. It was back and forth, 1538 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,799 Speaker 3: nine lead changes, over one thousand yards of total offense. 1539 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,000 Speaker 3: I'm thinking the team that has the ball last is 1540 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 3: gonna win. And less than a minute to go, I 1541 01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 3: tell you, the ball that bears. 1542 01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 4: The Bears are going home wondering what the heck happened 1543 01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,600 Speaker 4: to their defense too, Yes, you know, and and and 1544 01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:53,679 Speaker 4: they're trying to figure out solve some problems because they're 1545 01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:57,240 Speaker 4: not gonna win a lot of games playing like they did. Uh, defensively, 1546 01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,200 Speaker 4: but you outscore somebody, you score forty seven points. I 1547 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,800 Speaker 4: guess that's the number. It's not thirty nine, thirty eight, 1548 01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:05,720 Speaker 4: it's forty seven, that's right. 1549 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,800 Speaker 3: And they were celebrating with a fourteen point lead and 1550 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,120 Speaker 3: the ball and with like five and a half. 1551 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,880 Speaker 2: Minutes to go, and it was a little too early. 1552 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:14,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it really was. 1553 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,880 Speaker 3: All right, Hey, we've got to take another break. You're 1554 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,800 Speaker 3: listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk 1555 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,799 Speaker 3: presented by RNL carriers at Wings and Rings and Oakley 1556 01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:32,080 Speaker 3: seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Welcome back 1557 01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 3: to the Tri States Chevy Dealers Postgames Sports Talk presented 1558 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:40,439 Speaker 3: by RNL Carriers with your host Chick Ludwig and Bruce 1559 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:45,200 Speaker 3: Kazerski talking Bengals football. They fall forty seven to forty 1560 01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,880 Speaker 3: two to the Chicago Bears after last week's thirty nine 1561 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,120 Speaker 3: to thirty eight loss at home to the Jets. 1562 01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,560 Speaker 2: You just cannot lose home games like this, Bruce. 1563 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,599 Speaker 3: And let's check the Guilty Windows Window of Opportunity brought 1564 01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,120 Speaker 3: to you by Guilty Windows. The key to quality windows 1565 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,200 Speaker 3: is trusting the pros guilty windows. 1566 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,160 Speaker 2: Well after Noah Fant catches. 1567 01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:14,720 Speaker 3: A twenty three yard pass from Joe Flacco, pulling the Bengals, 1568 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,880 Speaker 3: and the two point conversion to t Higgins pulling the 1569 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,200 Speaker 3: Bengals within forty one to thirty five with a minute 1570 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:25,679 Speaker 3: forty three to go. It came down to definitely kneading 1571 01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,000 Speaker 3: the on side kick conversion. 1572 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:30,880 Speaker 2: And the Bengals got it. 1573 01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:31,559 Speaker 5: They got it. 1574 01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 3: The ball did not go ten yards, but it hit 1575 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,600 Speaker 3: the ankle in the foot of a Chicago Bear and 1576 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,479 Speaker 3: the Bengals jumped on it. What a pile I mean, 1577 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,720 Speaker 3: it was about eight feet high with bodies unscramble it. 1578 01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,240 Speaker 2: The Bengals are on it, and they took advantage. 1579 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 3: That was their window of opportunity right there, and Joe 1580 01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:57,679 Speaker 3: Flacco his fourth touchdown pass of the day, a nine 1581 01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,599 Speaker 3: yarder to Andre Josevash with fifty four seconds to go. 1582 01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,120 Speaker 3: That was the window of opportunity brought to you by 1583 01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,439 Speaker 3: guilty windows. The key to quality windows is trusting the 1584 01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:15,360 Speaker 3: pros guilty windows. Unfortunately, Colston Lovelin went fifty eight yards. 1585 01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,560 Speaker 4: I left the stadium last week with ten and a 1586 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,240 Speaker 4: half minutes up by fourteen. 1587 01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:21,040 Speaker 5: We lost. 1588 01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,120 Speaker 4: By the time I got to the car, I left 1589 01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:27,040 Speaker 4: with five minutes and we were down by that many points. 1590 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,080 Speaker 4: I get to the parking lot and you can just 1591 01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,040 Speaker 4: barely see the jumbo drawing whatever's left. The crowd in 1592 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:36,639 Speaker 4: the stadium roars. We scored a touchdown, make it six points, right, 1593 01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,360 Speaker 4: we on side kicked. They're going nuts again. Then we 1594 01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,240 Speaker 4: scored another touchdowns. I missed the entire game, I ship, 1595 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,200 Speaker 4: you know, in the last five minutes. I missed the 1596 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,120 Speaker 4: entire football game. And you know, we just saw those 1597 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:52,120 Speaker 4: plays about the big screen here and it's like anytime 1598 01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:56,120 Speaker 4: the last play, the tight end down the middle, two 1599 01:23:56,200 --> 01:24:00,639 Speaker 4: guys our two safeties at the same time that are rapping, 1600 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:01,479 Speaker 4: they just hit him. 1601 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:02,840 Speaker 5: Now maybe he catches it. 1602 01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,040 Speaker 4: They they tackle him right there and they kick a 1603 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,400 Speaker 4: field goal to win the game. You know what, That's 1604 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,080 Speaker 4: a better way to go out than what happened. 1605 01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:14,080 Speaker 3: Yes, it's amazing that you uh that were talking about this, 1606 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:19,280 Speaker 3: because when I was on the beat, they would you know, 1607 01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,360 Speaker 3: open up the uh you know, they would make an 1608 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,920 Speaker 3: announcement in the press box, the elevator, you like, with 1609 01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 3: five minutes to go, elevator, you get trapped in that elevator. 1610 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:32,000 Speaker 2: You miss the final two three, four. 1611 01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:36,120 Speaker 3: Minutes of the game when it's decided, and I and 1612 01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,120 Speaker 3: I quit going down early. 1613 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,760 Speaker 2: Because you miss so much. 1614 01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,160 Speaker 3: And I said, I'll wait until I know that the 1615 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,160 Speaker 3: game is going to end, you know, And they send 1616 01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,840 Speaker 3: the elevator back up, and that's when we could get 1617 01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,120 Speaker 3: on the field the final couple minutes of a game. 1618 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:51,920 Speaker 2: And uh, really. 1619 01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,560 Speaker 3: Before or they stand in the tunnel, sure, yeah, before 1620 01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:59,000 Speaker 3: nine to eleven. Really, yeah, you know, and then nobody 1621 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,600 Speaker 3: was allowed you know, the field, so and you know 1622 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,200 Speaker 3: this to Bruce. The final quarter of a game and 1623 01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,760 Speaker 3: near the end of the game, the speed of the 1624 01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:10,400 Speaker 3: game just heightens. 1625 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it seems to last forever. Yes, yeah, it seems. 1626 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,200 Speaker 2: At last five minutes, it felt like an hour. 1627 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:16,439 Speaker 5: An hour. 1628 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,000 Speaker 2: It was brutal, brutal. It just was incredible. 1629 01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:23,040 Speaker 3: But the speed of the game is, uh, it was 1630 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:27,519 Speaker 3: shock fans to be up that close seeing how fast 1631 01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:27,840 Speaker 3: it is. 1632 01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,120 Speaker 4: All for weeks, my son picked me up the same spot. 1633 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:32,800 Speaker 4: We're standing on the corner waiting for him to come 1634 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,559 Speaker 4: on and pick us up. Last week, you're saying you're 1635 01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,680 Speaker 4: not gonna believe it, You're not gonna believe it. You're 1636 01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:38,479 Speaker 4: not gonna believe it this week, calls him, You're not 1637 01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,880 Speaker 4: gonna believe this one. We came back, we got onside kick, 1638 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:42,120 Speaker 4: we scored another touchdown. 1639 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:42,639 Speaker 5: We're leading. 1640 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,920 Speaker 2: My guys, yeah, my guys. Crazy. Hey. 1641 01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,559 Speaker 3: Just a reminder for fans out there that postgame sports 1642 01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,320 Speaker 3: talk is brought to you by M and P Logistics. 1643 01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:58,000 Speaker 3: From first down to final mile, M and P delivers, 1644 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,280 Speaker 3: you can depend on it. Let's go out to the phones. 1645 01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,520 Speaker 3: We've got Don in Cincinnati. 1646 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:04,920 Speaker 2: Don Are you there? 1647 01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:10,439 Speaker 6: Am on? 1648 01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:15,600 Speaker 10: Yes, yes, Don, Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I from Nasville. But 1649 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:21,280 Speaker 10: you said Cincinnatille. But okay, yeah, I just want to 1650 01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:26,639 Speaker 10: say thanks, became a call here. But I really am 1651 01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,439 Speaker 10: really concerned about what's going on with the Bengals right 1652 01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,960 Speaker 10: now when it comes to the defense. I don't think 1653 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,760 Speaker 10: this is an easy stake. I really don't. I think 1654 01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,720 Speaker 10: we really need to. We look at, you know, far 1655 01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 10: the schemes and and players we got playing this particular 1656 01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,080 Speaker 10: scheme that got going on right now, if you look 1657 01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,439 Speaker 10: at it, I look at Battle. I don't know what's 1658 01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,800 Speaker 10: going on with him, the stuff he's doing right now. 1659 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,840 Speaker 10: There is no way he would did that if he 1660 01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:59,960 Speaker 10: was playing for Nick sayeah, absolutely he was. He wouldn't 1661 01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:02,479 Speaker 10: be plan you know, Nick Date were having him out 1662 01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,000 Speaker 10: so quick that he wouldn't even know he was on 1663 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,040 Speaker 10: the team. And my point is, while we are setting 1664 01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,439 Speaker 10: players playing like this, you know if they're gonna play, 1665 01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,719 Speaker 10: because it's like people have to make a business decisions. 1666 01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:16,160 Speaker 10: You know what business decisions mean. That means they're trying 1667 01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 10: not to get hurt. 1668 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:17,439 Speaker 5: They don't. 1669 01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,719 Speaker 10: They're not trying to play at all effort. That's just sounding. 1670 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,320 Speaker 10: They make business on defense because. 1671 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:22,680 Speaker 5: They ain't trying to. 1672 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:29,479 Speaker 10: No, no, no, They enjoying one telling and and and again. 1673 01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,160 Speaker 10: You know, when I look at the offense, I don't know 1674 01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,720 Speaker 10: why people call him bout the offense. I don't know 1675 01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:35,719 Speaker 10: what else you Canna has on offense. I just don't 1676 01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,479 Speaker 10: office is playing. I mean, seriously, Joe Fla are the 1677 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,880 Speaker 10: kids that dude is amazing right now and. 1678 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,080 Speaker 5: And we are. 1679 01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,320 Speaker 10: And we are making him look like I'm Please, don't 1680 01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,960 Speaker 10: blame Joe back. Don't blame Joe back. If we can't 1681 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:57,000 Speaker 10: get the defense six, it makes no sense get hurt again. 1682 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,120 Speaker 5: Ye score fifty two points to win. 1683 01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:05,280 Speaker 3: Hey, John, We've got to run appreciate you venting. Thanks 1684 01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:11,880 Speaker 3: thanks so much. Where does this team and we'll get 1685 01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,880 Speaker 3: to Matt. We've got Matt, We've got Ron, We've got 1686 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:19,120 Speaker 3: Chad and others. We will get to you after the 1687 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:22,360 Speaker 3: top of the hour break. But but Bruce Kazerski, where 1688 01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:23,679 Speaker 3: does this team go from here? 1689 01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:25,120 Speaker 5: I can tell you they're not. 1690 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,880 Speaker 4: They can't make wholesale changes because they are what they 1691 01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,400 Speaker 4: are at this point. At this point, the concrete has 1692 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,440 Speaker 4: been laid. All they can do is continue to work schematically, 1693 01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,600 Speaker 4: maybe fix some weaknesses with the scheme. If there is 1694 01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,040 Speaker 4: a if there is a way. If there's not, then 1695 01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,639 Speaker 4: you're just gonna have to outscore people. And and this 1696 01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:44,240 Speaker 4: is this is the league that will exploit every weakness 1697 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,120 Speaker 4: you have. They see you on film as much as 1698 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,679 Speaker 4: you see yourself on film, and they're going to study 1699 01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,519 Speaker 4: the Bengals defense. They're going to tear it apart week 1700 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,439 Speaker 4: in and week out. Unless we fix or change some things, 1701 01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,920 Speaker 4: you can't be You can't make too many personnel changes. 1702 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:03,000 Speaker 4: There's no there's no great bank of all Americans are 1703 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,599 Speaker 4: gonna come in here and make them better overnight. 1704 01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,240 Speaker 3: No, they're relying on young players and they're giving them 1705 01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,040 Speaker 3: experience and they're getting lit up. 1706 01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:11,880 Speaker 4: Well, you know, we talked about this a little bit 1707 01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,120 Speaker 4: off the air, little Wago, Chick. Young players are gonna 1708 01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,439 Speaker 4: make mistakes. You're gonna have blown coverages here and there. 1709 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,639 Speaker 4: But young players tackle too, just like the last caller 1710 01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,880 Speaker 4: was talking about not being able to get away with 1711 01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,360 Speaker 4: that kind of tackling for for Alabama. He's right, one 1712 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,160 Speaker 4: hundred percent correct. You know, these guys are drafted because 1713 01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,559 Speaker 4: they were good tacklers, because they were great football player 1714 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,639 Speaker 4: and it's just not coming out right now, and somehow 1715 01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,120 Speaker 4: that's got to change. They gonna look, they gonna look 1716 01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:37,720 Speaker 4: a they gonna look at themselves in the mirror and say, 1717 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,360 Speaker 4: I gotta fix my problem before we fix our problem. 1718 01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,920 Speaker 3: We've reached the top of the hour break. We're live 1719 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,080 Speaker 3: at Wings at Rings and Oakley. He's Bruce Kazerski. This 1720 01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:52,760 Speaker 3: is Chick Ludwig, and you're listening to the Tri State 1721 01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:56,560 Speaker 3: Chevy Dealers Post Game Sports Talk presented by RNL carriers 1722 01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,400 Speaker 3: on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifty. 1723 01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:08,400 Speaker 1: This is the Tri Stage Chevy Dealer's postgame Sports Talk 1724 01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:12,439 Speaker 1: live from Buffalo Wings and Rings, presented by R and 1725 01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,479 Speaker 1: L Carriers. 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And now postgames 1735 01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:58,200 Speaker 1: Sports Talk. 1736 01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:05,440 Speaker 3: We're live at Wings and Rings in Oakley on Factory 1737 01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,639 Speaker 3: Colony Lane, and you are listening to the Tri State 1738 01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:11,599 Speaker 3: Chevy Dealers post Game Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. 1739 01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:15,120 Speaker 3: He's Bruce Kazerski, this is Chick Ludwig. We're breaking down 1740 01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,439 Speaker 3: the Bengals forty seven of the forty two loss to 1741 01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,639 Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears today like a wrecking ball. A lot 1742 01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:25,080 Speaker 3: of Chicago Bears fans in here tonight. Man, They're going 1743 01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:29,440 Speaker 3: crazy and I'm going around congratulating them, and the Bengals 1744 01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:35,360 Speaker 3: are making a star is born in Caleb Williams, it 1745 01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:36,519 Speaker 3: is the Bengals fall. 1746 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:42,000 Speaker 4: Well that somebody has to play the Bengals, that's exactly 1747 01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,080 Speaker 4: we might as well, you know, promote the league. 1748 01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:45,880 Speaker 2: That's that's exactly right. 1749 01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,960 Speaker 3: Oh man, he did look like, hey, he's the first 1750 01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:49,719 Speaker 3: overall pick. 1751 01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:52,240 Speaker 2: He looked like he was playing for Uscaha. 1752 01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, the best game of his career. 1753 01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:55,360 Speaker 2: Man, fantastic. 1754 01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,479 Speaker 5: I've seen that a lot in Cincinnati. I've seen that. 1755 01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,439 Speaker 4: You know, I was there with Brett Fahr took his 1756 01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:02,400 Speaker 4: Like you said, we talked about this a little bit earlier. 1757 01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,160 Speaker 4: Brett Favre made his showing against the Bengals. And that's 1758 01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:08,080 Speaker 4: the way the game is. You never know, you never know. 1759 01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:09,800 Speaker 4: These young guys step out of the closet and all 1760 01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,679 Speaker 4: of a sudden there's superstars. They've been waiting, wait and waiting. 1761 01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:14,680 Speaker 4: They get their chance and before you know it, all 1762 01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:15,400 Speaker 4: of a sudden. 1763 01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,400 Speaker 2: And all Brett fav did was start like the next time. 1764 01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,799 Speaker 4: The next five thousand games and when yeah, four thousand 1765 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:21,120 Speaker 4: of them. 1766 01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. 1767 01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:28,080 Speaker 3: And Postgame Sports talking in part by ae Joring Window Company. 1768 01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:30,840 Speaker 3: They sell the best and service the rest. Matt in 1769 01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,479 Speaker 3: Springfield has been waiting a while. Matt, how are we 1770 01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:34,080 Speaker 3: doing tonight? 1771 01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:35,720 Speaker 14: What's going on? 1772 01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:36,920 Speaker 5: Chick as always? Brother? 1773 01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:37,559 Speaker 24: How you doing? 1774 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:37,800 Speaker 5: Man? 1775 01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:39,679 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Matt. 1776 01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 3: H you know what it's I'm gonna drive home and yeah, 1777 01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:47,760 Speaker 3: it's frustrating, but I'm like, gosh, I almost feel like 1778 01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:51,320 Speaker 3: a player. I'm getting paid for this, so uh gosh, 1779 01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:52,080 Speaker 3: I can't complain. 1780 01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,559 Speaker 5: Would you say about football and radio? You know, bad 1781 01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:55,800 Speaker 5: bad football. 1782 01:32:55,400 --> 01:33:00,160 Speaker 3: Making bad football makes for great radio and no one 1783 01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,200 Speaker 3: out pieces of the Hut and no one out bungles 1784 01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:08,480 Speaker 3: the Bengals. 1785 01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,000 Speaker 5: They're currently for sure, and let's hope that they get 1786 01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:12,679 Speaker 5: out of it quickly. 1787 01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,960 Speaker 3: And Mike Brown likes to say the ox cart is 1788 01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:17,200 Speaker 3: stuck in the ditch. 1789 01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,400 Speaker 2: Yes, what's on your mind? 1790 01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:22,360 Speaker 11: I have done at that game? 1791 01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:23,800 Speaker 24: Man? I was down at that game. Least think it 1792 01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:25,800 Speaker 24: gets the Jets. And when the Jets started getting close 1793 01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:27,760 Speaker 24: in that fourth quarter, I was like, you know they're 1794 01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,280 Speaker 24: gonna blow this, aren't they sure enough? What's gonna happen? 1795 01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:30,479 Speaker 15: Man? 1796 01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:33,280 Speaker 24: It really feels like we are back to the days 1797 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,000 Speaker 24: of the Bungles man, where you just know at any 1798 01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,759 Speaker 24: moment they are going to snatch defeat from the jaws 1799 01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:43,080 Speaker 24: of victory, to be honest, though, uh, let's be real today, 1800 01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:46,400 Speaker 24: they really had no business even being anywhere close in 1801 01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:50,200 Speaker 24: that game. To be honest, there is some questionable officiating 1802 01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,080 Speaker 24: late in that game in favor of the Bengals, shockingly, 1803 01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,160 Speaker 24: U because honestly, that was that was a blowout. Honestly, 1804 01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:59,720 Speaker 24: when the Bears have that pick six, I don't I 1805 01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:01,760 Speaker 24: don't know why they got called back, what they did 1806 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:02,160 Speaker 24: or whatever. 1807 01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:02,920 Speaker 14: I forget, but. 1808 01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:10,439 Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was still a lot closer 1809 01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:11,320 Speaker 24: than what it should have been. 1810 01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:12,000 Speaker 20: Uh. 1811 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:16,160 Speaker 24: And honestly, it's just so many mistakes this team continues 1812 01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:18,479 Speaker 24: to make lining up all sides, I mean, and the 1813 01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,120 Speaker 24: lysist continues to go on and on and on, and 1814 01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:24,120 Speaker 24: you can see the offensive players after the game, they're 1815 01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:26,879 Speaker 24: starting to really get, you know, kicked off of this defense. 1816 01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,400 Speaker 24: This defense is literally if you have to spear the 1817 01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:32,920 Speaker 24: defense at this point, if you score three quick, I'm 1818 01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,559 Speaker 24: fifty eight seconds, Come on, man, fifty eight that should 1819 01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,960 Speaker 24: have been game. That should have been confidentals, I mean, 1820 01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,200 Speaker 24: come on, especially with the way their kicker was kicking today, 1821 01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,679 Speaker 24: you know, he was kind of shaking, so that should 1822 01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:44,160 Speaker 24: have been a game. 1823 01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:50,360 Speaker 3: But I mean, well, three rushing yards to the Bengals 1824 01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:51,120 Speaker 3: forty six. 1825 01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, are you kidding me? 1826 01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,240 Speaker 11: To a backup seventh rounder? Yeah, he was like a 1827 01:34:58,280 --> 01:34:59,560 Speaker 11: seventh round, seventh. 1828 01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:03,920 Speaker 4: Rounder from from well what was that rotger sixth pick 1829 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,720 Speaker 4: or sixth pick from the from to Denver Davis. He 1830 01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:10,880 Speaker 4: turned out to be pretty good too, yes, this, Yeah, 1831 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,360 Speaker 4: he may turn out to be a superstar in this league. 1832 01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:16,720 Speaker 2: No kidding? Well, Isaya Pacheco was the seventh rounder for kids? 1833 01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,439 Speaker 5: Who did the mega star today? Williams or this new 1834 01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:20,040 Speaker 5: running back? 1835 01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:20,960 Speaker 2: Oh? Both? 1836 01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:21,479 Speaker 5: Really? 1837 01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? 1838 01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:26,439 Speaker 3: Detay Davis is out injury their number one running back. 1839 01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,080 Speaker 2: This guy, man, he took advantage of his operation. 1840 01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,439 Speaker 4: That's the reason you don't take a week off in 1841 01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:35,120 Speaker 4: the NFL, because someone will step in and take your job. 1842 01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:39,360 Speaker 2: You're exactly right, man, Well, last. 1843 01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:39,439 Speaker 24: Feel bad for Joe? 1844 01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:40,800 Speaker 14: Yeah, it really. 1845 01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,280 Speaker 24: It feels like it's a repeat of last season. Just 1846 01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:45,960 Speaker 24: another Joe, you know, putting lipstick on a pig. It's 1847 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,880 Speaker 24: just literally the same thing. All the points in the world. 1848 01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:50,519 Speaker 24: But if you don't have a defense to stop it. 1849 01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,160 Speaker 24: On the other side, it doesn't really matter how many 1850 01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,679 Speaker 24: points you put up. You could put up fifty sixty seventy. 1851 01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,640 Speaker 24: I mean, but do you have no defense? Guess what 1852 01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,920 Speaker 24: You're gonna lose pretty much now the time. But I 1853 01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,920 Speaker 24: don't know, it might be time to start dumping some 1854 01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:08,439 Speaker 24: pieces like dre and logan and shting all some pieces. 1855 01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:08,639 Speaker 7: Man. 1856 01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:13,160 Speaker 4: It's just think about how much misery the water cooler 1857 01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:16,160 Speaker 4: would be if Joe Flacco hadn't been scoring all those points. 1858 01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,519 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, goodness, it could be forty two to 1859 01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:23,840 Speaker 4: or forty seven to fourteen. Yes, the game could be 1860 01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:24,960 Speaker 4: over in the first half. 1861 01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,479 Speaker 3: Hey, really really appreciate the call, Matt, Thank you very much. 1862 01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:29,360 Speaker 2: UH. 1863 01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:33,000 Speaker 3: Let's review today's Postman Law injury report, brought to you 1864 01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:36,600 Speaker 3: by Postman Law Injured called eight four to four Postman, 1865 01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,160 Speaker 3: others promised, Postman delivers. 1866 01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:42,080 Speaker 2: Well, the big one is samaj p Ryan. 1867 01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:42,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a big one. 1868 01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:49,839 Speaker 3: And he went down with a leg ankle flipping injury. Okay, 1869 01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,920 Speaker 3: and he was down in big time pain. And then 1870 01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:56,080 Speaker 3: he pops up and like jogs off the field that's 1871 01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:56,960 Speaker 3: how tough he is. 1872 01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,360 Speaker 5: And then it hit the bench right in front of 1873 01:36:58,479 --> 01:36:59,920 Speaker 5: us and collapse again. 1874 01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,000 Speaker 3: Collapsed and headed to the uh and he was out 1875 01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:06,080 Speaker 3: for the rest of the game. Uh. Demitrius Knight at 1876 01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:07,960 Speaker 3: one point went into the locker room. I don't know 1877 01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:09,080 Speaker 3: if he came back or not. 1878 01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:10,479 Speaker 5: Did not, did not say that. 1879 01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:16,200 Speaker 2: But really, other than that, egos, a lot. 1880 01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,360 Speaker 4: Of egos and a lot of egos that have to 1881 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:18,960 Speaker 4: set on it. 1882 01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:20,960 Speaker 5: Yes, they got to set on it for a week, 1883 01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:22,040 Speaker 5: week and a half now. 1884 01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,760 Speaker 3: And that's today's Postman Law Injury Report, brought to you 1885 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:30,280 Speaker 3: by Postman Law Injured called eight four four Postman Others promise, 1886 01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:36,919 Speaker 3: Postman delivers. Let's go out to the phones and welcome 1887 01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,160 Speaker 3: in Ron and Milford if you're still there. 1888 01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:45,920 Speaker 7: Ron, Hey, guys, I'm still How are you guys doing? 1889 01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:48,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Sorry, we're hanging in. 1890 01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:52,519 Speaker 7: Have have to, you know, prolong this conversation after this loss. 1891 01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:56,280 Speaker 7: But my question is when they draft guys, do they 1892 01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,000 Speaker 7: give him an IQ test? 1893 01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:00,440 Speaker 5: Oh? 1894 01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:04,240 Speaker 3: Well, and he goes to get a the Wonder Lick 1895 01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:05,559 Speaker 3: test at the combine? 1896 01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:09,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, so because you know when they lined up off 1897 01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:13,200 Speaker 7: sides on that field goal or the extra point in 1898 01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:17,960 Speaker 7: the field goal, Yes, yeah, and gave them I think 1899 01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,920 Speaker 7: they gave him seven points. I mean, how how hard 1900 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:22,560 Speaker 7: is it to know the line of scrimmage? 1901 01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:23,639 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1902 01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:31,439 Speaker 7: And to see our defense Uh, defensive players not covering 1903 01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:31,960 Speaker 7: their gap. 1904 01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:34,799 Speaker 5: It's like it wasn't a defensive lineman. 1905 01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:37,840 Speaker 4: It was a defensive back, and they're very seldom ever 1906 01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:38,360 Speaker 4: run the line. 1907 01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:39,280 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. 1908 01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,519 Speaker 3: He's lined up, he's got he's on all fours on 1909 01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:46,559 Speaker 3: the very far left end, and he is way over 1910 01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:47,320 Speaker 3: the line of script. 1911 01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:48,240 Speaker 5: Got to know it. 1912 01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:51,280 Speaker 4: I mean, you're looking if you turn your head three 1913 01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:53,840 Speaker 4: degrees to the right, you're looking right at the ball. 1914 01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:54,920 Speaker 5: You shouldn't be there. 1915 01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:59,439 Speaker 7: Well, maybe if he's too stupid, the defensive line coast should. 1916 01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,240 Speaker 6: Run down every time and look down. 1917 01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:05,080 Speaker 7: That line and say, hey man, you're offside. 1918 01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:05,599 Speaker 12: Uh. 1919 01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:09,160 Speaker 7: And before I go on Candolean's sister the Trumpet family, 1920 01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:13,599 Speaker 7: but uh, the opening kickoff, was I the only one 1921 01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,360 Speaker 7: waiting for them to say, there's a flag on the five. 1922 01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:16,879 Speaker 5: Yard line. 1923 01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:21,240 Speaker 4: Waiting for you expected You expect it in the league. 1924 01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:24,519 Speaker 4: That's the way the league is anymore. We're just that 1925 01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,559 Speaker 4: there wasn't one, and it was a great return. 1926 01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:31,640 Speaker 7: Well, I don't know where we go from here. Man. Uh, 1927 01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:35,160 Speaker 7: lou an Arumo was apparently not the problem. I think 1928 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,200 Speaker 7: we got a bunch of idiots that needed IQ tests 1929 01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:43,559 Speaker 7: on defense. And uh, after watching the free safety just 1930 01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,280 Speaker 7: try to blow people up, not wrap up. How many 1931 01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,960 Speaker 7: times has he been coached hey wrap up? Uh, you 1932 01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,599 Speaker 7: know it's embarrassing and. 1933 01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,120 Speaker 3: All right, Ron, we've got to run. We've got to run. 1934 01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:56,080 Speaker 3: Thank you for the call. 1935 01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,360 Speaker 4: If you continually do the same thing over and over 1936 01:39:58,400 --> 01:39:59,799 Speaker 4: and over, expect different results. 1937 01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:01,040 Speaker 5: There's a name for that. 1938 01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:08,360 Speaker 3: Yes, Well, let's check on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage today. 1939 01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:12,880 Speaker 3: Who brought to you by Cincy by coversince he dot 1940 01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:19,200 Speaker 3: com local health insurance experts for over twenty years. Well, 1941 01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:22,400 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams passed for two hundred and eighty yards and 1942 01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:27,000 Speaker 3: three touchdowns. He caught a touchdown pass, and he ran 1943 01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:34,720 Speaker 3: for over fifty yards. So all the the top tacklers 1944 01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:36,679 Speaker 3: on the Bengals were all. 1945 01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:39,479 Speaker 4: Defensive defensive backs and one linebacker in that group. 1946 01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:44,640 Speaker 2: And the coverage was not good. 1947 01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:51,400 Speaker 4: It's what soft shell coverage they're playing. It takes me 1948 01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,960 Speaker 4: back to the Jets a week ago. The first quarter 1949 01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:56,720 Speaker 4: they played great defense, got two score lead, and it 1950 01:40:56,720 --> 01:41:00,160 Speaker 4: looked like they went into a soft shell prevent. But 1951 01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,200 Speaker 4: that looked like the same thing all all week today, 1952 01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:04,479 Speaker 4: all day today. 1953 01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:07,320 Speaker 5: You know, we were getting pressure on Caleb Williams. 1954 01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,840 Speaker 4: But when he when he broke contained or got out 1955 01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,680 Speaker 4: of the pocket, he had eight seconds, nine seconds at 1956 01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:16,439 Speaker 4: times to throw. You can't cover NFL receivers for that 1957 01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,479 Speaker 4: long a time in zones. You can't stay with him 1958 01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:20,240 Speaker 4: in man's that long, and so you. 1959 01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:20,960 Speaker 5: Gotta you gotta. 1960 01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:22,680 Speaker 4: If you're gonna get to the quarterback, you gotta do 1961 01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:26,120 Speaker 4: it three to four seconds at most, and we weren't 1962 01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:29,840 Speaker 4: getting there. We flushed him a few times, but you 1963 01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,280 Speaker 4: can't cover them that long, and sometimes he was just 1964 01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:35,080 Speaker 4: dropping back and throwing it. They were wide open anyway. Yes, 1965 01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:39,479 Speaker 4: So what's the what's the solution? Somewhere in between, take 1966 01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:41,679 Speaker 4: a shot, play some man, go get the quarterback. 1967 01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:46,960 Speaker 3: This used to happen Bruce in the press box, Todd 1968 01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:51,400 Speaker 3: Archer wrote for Missions at Post Now he's ESPN covering 1969 01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:54,559 Speaker 3: the cowboys and he's been there for years. Great guy 1970 01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:58,160 Speaker 3: and a terrific rider and a good friend. He would 1971 01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:05,720 Speaker 3: play the calliopee and David Folter would be sitting there, 1972 01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:07,840 Speaker 3: you know, a row or two behind us, and he 1973 01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:11,880 Speaker 3: would get very angry when he heard the calliope because, 1974 01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:17,240 Speaker 3: as a Bengal alum sitting up there watching mistakes, it 1975 01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:18,000 Speaker 3: wasn't pretty. 1976 01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:21,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm not very comfortable talking about it, but 1977 01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:25,240 Speaker 4: what else can you say, chick? You know, we're tired 1978 01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:27,519 Speaker 4: of we're tired of seeing it. And as an alumni, 1979 01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:31,200 Speaker 4: just like David was, and just like all the alumni 1980 01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:34,000 Speaker 4: are tired of watching. Mike Martin called in today, tired 1981 01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:35,080 Speaker 4: of seeing the same thing. 1982 01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:39,040 Speaker 2: And it's like. 1983 01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:42,960 Speaker 3: Boss would call me or I would call my boss, 1984 01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:44,880 Speaker 3: you know, near the end of the game. 1985 01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:45,800 Speaker 2: What do you got coming? 1986 01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:49,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I've got a gamer and notebook and sidebar, and 1987 01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:51,040 Speaker 3: this is what I'm going to kind of concentrate on. 1988 01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:55,120 Speaker 3: And what does Arch or Gary have are two columnists? Yeah, 1989 01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:57,799 Speaker 3: and I said, and I would always say a general 1990 01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:02,800 Speaker 3: debacle column, just a general just how they lost, just 1991 01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:04,240 Speaker 3: the general debacle column. 1992 01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:06,280 Speaker 2: So that's what it's. 1993 01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:07,000 Speaker 5: Flu boy right now. 1994 01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:11,840 Speaker 4: You know, you think about we have the best offensive 1995 01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:15,720 Speaker 4: weapons in football, we do, and they're playing at their 1996 01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:16,720 Speaker 4: highest level. 1997 01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:17,639 Speaker 12: And. 1998 01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:23,639 Speaker 5: We just we can't play defense mediocre level. 1999 01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:28,040 Speaker 3: And the faster the Bengals score, the quicker the defenses 2000 01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:31,320 Speaker 3: back out on the field. That's what's said. It is 2001 01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:34,840 Speaker 3: just they throw them ball to our receivers. They're liable 2002 01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:36,040 Speaker 3: to go for a touch at any. 2003 01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,080 Speaker 4: Time, That's exactly, And so you can't say, well, we're 2004 01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:39,640 Speaker 4: going to take eight minutes. 2005 01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:41,679 Speaker 5: Off the clock right now, you're right. 2006 01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2007 01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:47,040 Speaker 3: And it started so well with Chuck Sizzle Charlie Jones 2008 01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:51,599 Speaker 3: with the ninety eight yard kickoff return, kickoff return, but 2009 01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:54,160 Speaker 3: then it ended so bad. 2010 01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:56,960 Speaker 4: I think the special teams played their best game of 2011 01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,400 Speaker 4: the year. Yes, with the exception of jumping off side 2012 01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:01,760 Speaker 4: or being in the neutral zone on that. 2013 01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,320 Speaker 5: Field goal, that's it. Yeah, But how big a play 2014 01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:04,680 Speaker 5: was that? 2015 01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:05,479 Speaker 2: Oh huge? 2016 01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:09,439 Speaker 3: It cost the Bengals seven points and then the personal 2017 01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:14,200 Speaker 3: foul that cost the Bengals potentially touchdown again touchdown, yes, yeah, 2018 01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,320 Speaker 3: because we take over. 2019 01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,640 Speaker 2: The Bengals take over where the guy missed. 2020 01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:24,040 Speaker 3: The field goal and yet gives them a fresh set 2021 01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:27,760 Speaker 3: of downs and they go down and score that could 2022 01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:32,599 Speaker 3: have Oh talk about momentum swings, big big And let's 2023 01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:33,479 Speaker 3: go out to the phones. 2024 01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,080 Speaker 2: Rick in Dallas. You're taking us home. 2025 01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:43,080 Speaker 19: Here, Uh hell yeah, Eric, yes, sure you know something 2026 01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:44,400 Speaker 19: about here about Miam Trump. 2027 01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:48,760 Speaker 11: You know that by I remember, uh, I remember when he. 2028 01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:50,160 Speaker 10: Talked to Sugar. 2029 01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:52,040 Speaker 6: I was at an Air Force BA get up the right 2030 01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:53,120 Speaker 6: Patterson and. 2031 01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:55,920 Speaker 10: I used to listen to Sports Talk every night. 2032 01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:58,560 Speaker 14: Yes, you know what what show up? You had that 2033 01:44:58,760 --> 01:44:59,800 Speaker 14: on there and. 2034 01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:01,639 Speaker 5: I into that whole thing. 2035 01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:04,720 Speaker 10: Well, he's saying that, you know, he you know, trying 2036 01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:06,320 Speaker 10: to say that young lady's life. 2037 01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:07,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2038 01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:12,240 Speaker 6: And then we're talking about you know something, you know, 2039 01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,160 Speaker 6: I said, I found a. 2040 01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:19,519 Speaker 18: Real uh uh this spot if and uh at the 2041 01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:24,400 Speaker 18: college football you know that that portal and it's showing 2042 01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:27,880 Speaker 18: up that you see he's showing up the you see yesterday. 2043 01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,280 Speaker 6: You know what the problem with with that portal? 2044 01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:34,720 Speaker 2: Hey? 2045 01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:38,120 Speaker 3: Rick, uh, you're talking about the portal. I'm sorry, I 2046 01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:41,559 Speaker 3: have to cut you off because we are we're closing 2047 01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:44,479 Speaker 3: We're shutting it down here, We're we're closing it out 2048 01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:47,680 Speaker 3: of time. Hey, I'm hosting sports Talk on Saturday night. 2049 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,599 Speaker 3: Please call me back. I will get you on. And 2050 01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:55,680 Speaker 3: we were talking about the defensive secondary Bruce and the 2051 01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:59,639 Speaker 3: Defensive Secondary Coverage Report, brought to you by Cover since 2052 01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:03,320 Speaker 3: he died Cover, since he has you covered with affordable 2053 01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:08,840 Speaker 3: health insurance plans for over twenty years. 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