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Speaker 2: In the NFL, I'm less interested in play calling or

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Speaker 2: me then about the great culture or you know, no

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Speaker 11: sure there's not a bone issue. MRI can definitely show

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Speaker 11: some inflammation in the area, but it's really a diagnosis

433
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Speaker 11: of making sure it's not other things first and then

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Speaker 11: coming to this diagnosis.

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Speaker 2: So reading that surgery in the off season is a possibility.

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Speaker 2: So what determines whether or not surgery is going to

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Speaker 2: be needed.

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Speaker 11: Yes, essentially the failure of non surgical care. So typically

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Speaker 11: we'll begin athletes with a short period of rest, just

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Speaker 11: like you would another soft tissue injury. It can vary

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Speaker 11: by severity, you know, four to six weeks. But if

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Speaker 11: an athlete proves that they cannot come back to their exclusive,

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Speaker 11: their explosive sports afterwards, then surgery is often indicated. The

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Speaker 11: surgery is something that's been kind of developed and enhanced

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Speaker 11: and gotten better in the last ten fifteen years. Recent

446
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Speaker 11: studies have found about a ninety percent success of return

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Speaker 11: into sports after this surgery.

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Speaker 2: So, but he could still perhaps play through something like

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Speaker 2: this despite kneeding surgery down the road.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that that is a tough question. And then there

451
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Speaker 11: you get to one of the man one of the

452
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Speaker 11: really difficult issues sometimes with with where an athlete is

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Speaker 11: in a contract with where with where a.

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Speaker 5: Team is the season.

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Speaker 11: I think if an if an athlete feels like they

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Speaker 11: can perform at a at a high level, that helps

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Speaker 11: the team and their pain level is acceptable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're it's right.

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Speaker 11: Most sometimes you can play with it and have and

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Speaker 11: then have surgery in the off season. You've actually seen

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Speaker 11: that with several hockey players recently. Now, you do have

462
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Speaker 11: to be careful if you let a sports hernay get

463
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Speaker 11: too bad and that soft tissue injury gets too severe,

464
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Speaker 11: then it can lead to a complete hernia and a

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Speaker 11: more compar like a more involved surgery. So there is

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Speaker 11: a bit of a line that he'd be working with

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Speaker 11: the sports medicine team.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say, for example, he has what we'll call

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Speaker 2: typical sports hernia surgery as soon as the off season

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Speaker 2: gets here, which frankly feels like it's going to get

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Speaker 2: here sooner rather than later. How would that impact the

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Speaker 2: next season or is off season training that sort of stuff?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so's it's a three month recovery process. Of course,

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Speaker 11: that a lot of that's gonna happen in the off season,

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Speaker 11: and then he would have kind of a hardening conditioning period.

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Speaker 11: But again, it's a reasonably good ninety percent success and

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Speaker 11: back to play. So that's that's reasonably favorable for him.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Cam Taylor britt So, he came out

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Speaker 2: of the game against Pittsburgh with a foot injury. He

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Speaker 2: was in a boot in the locker room on Monday

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Speaker 2: using a scooter surgery, likely for what is being called

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Speaker 2: a Liz Frank injury. I've heard this term before, but

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure I know what it is. What is

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Speaker 2: a Liz Frank injury?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's unfortunate.

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Speaker 12: One.

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Speaker 11: Liz Frank injuries are a really difficult injury to the

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Speaker 11: ligaments that hold the bones in the middle of your foot.

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Speaker 11: So if you think about your foot and you think

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Speaker 11: about the arch of your foot, there there's a constellation

491
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Speaker 11: of little bones in there called the qneiforms, and they

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Speaker 11: help your foot kind of move and bend and twist

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Speaker 11: and do all the things that your foot can do

494
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Speaker 11: to accommodate to the ground. And when you tear those

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Speaker 11: ligaments that join those bones together, it's just a really

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Speaker 11: bad injury. You just get athletes put so much stress

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Speaker 11: on their foot. Kind of notorious for giving people persistent problems.

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Speaker 2: What is the timeline the likely timeline we're we're looking

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Speaker 2: at here from surgery to him being able to be

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Speaker 2: back on the field again.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: So, like like a lot of these injuries, they occur

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Speaker 11: on a spectrum. Basically, if the care is bad enough

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Speaker 11: and the bones aren't lined up perfectly, surgeries indicated not

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Speaker 11: generally speaking, the surgery requires six weeks of not walking

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Speaker 11: on the foot, so boot and scooter, six weeks of

507
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Speaker 11: kind of gradually introducing weight, and then three months is

508
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Speaker 11: kind of rehab. So overall it's it's generally considered to

509
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Speaker 11: be six months for full sports clearance. So yeah, and

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Speaker 11: even then you see ten to fifteen percent of guys

511
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Speaker 11: have some persistent pain in the arch of their foot,

512
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Speaker 11: so it's it's a tough one for for Cam.

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Speaker 12: Unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: All right, one more Cam sample defensive end. He has

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Speaker 2: an oblique strain. And these injuries to me always sound

516
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Speaker 2: more benign then they end up being. So walk me

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Speaker 2: through the different grades and then what each one of

518
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Speaker 2: them may suggest in terms of the timeline for Cam.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So the oblique muscles like these are the core

521
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Speaker 11: muscles along the side of your six pack, help you

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Speaker 11: to twist and stabilize your core. The plastic muscle grading

523
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Speaker 11: system that everybody knows is one to three. So one

524
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Speaker 11: is better, three is worse, three is usually you got

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Speaker 11: more bruising, maybe even a deficit in the muscle. Now, actually,

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Speaker 11: really interesting data moen these injuries from Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 11: They track the injuries really close. They found that for

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Speaker 11: grade ones, generally for hitters, it's about three weeks for

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Speaker 11: return to play. So if we kind of extrapolate from

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Speaker 11: some of that for a low grade injury, you're looking

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Speaker 11: at three weeks for a higher grade injury up to six.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 2: You know it feels like we talk about this with

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Speaker 2: baseball players all the time. Does this sort of injury

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Speaker 2: for a higher contact sport complicate things?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think, I mean, I think it does. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: I mean I I just give a little bit of

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Speaker 11: research for this. The best data I found was from baseball.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, football adds the whole other level of contact,

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Speaker 11: as you said, and getting hit there and the constant,

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Speaker 11: uh you know, potential to reinjure that muscle.

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Speaker 5: So and I do think it's a little harder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly seems like a tremendous insight. As always, Doctor

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Speaker 2: Trevor Wilkes from Orthos Sincy. We appreciate the time we will. Chatson,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much, thanks for having me. That's our guy,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Trevor Wilkes from Orthos Sincy. I say it every

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Speaker 2: week because I believe it. The great thing about Orthos

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Speaker 2: Sincy is they have specialists and locations all over the

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Speaker 2: Tri States. This includes walk in orthopedic urgent care weekdays

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Speaker 2: nine am to nine pm and Saturdays nine am to

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Speaker 2: one pm at both Edgewood and Anderson. Easy because you

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Speaker 2: don't need an appointment and cheaper than going to an er.

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Speaker 2: Whenever you have an urgent orthopedic injury, you go to

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Speaker 2: Orthosinc dot com. That's Ortho c I and Sey dot com.

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Speaker 2: Rick Boring on the Musketeers and the Norris.

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Speaker 2: Yet maybe that'll change this evening. Maybe nobody will get

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Speaker 2: Noon Kickoff is coming to UC on Saturday, uh the

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Speaker 2: morning before the BYU game on Saturday night. John Cunningham

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Speaker 2: be director of Athletics at you see is gonna talk

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Speaker 2: Big noon Kickoff with us coming up in just about

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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes Wes Miller in the five o'clock hour, as

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Speaker 2: the Bearcats gets set to take on Louisville Downtown on

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Speaker 2: Friday nights, Do I saw Rick Buring's name on the screen,

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Speaker 2: Then it popped off, will okay? Is Rick not with us?

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Speaker 2: Rick is en route? I saw Rick last night. I

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Speaker 2: went to the Xavier game. I saw the Musketeers make

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Speaker 2: a bunch of threes against Old Dominion, and we talked

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Speaker 2: about how Rick would be joining us on his way

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Speaker 2: to Mount Pleasant, Michigan to call the NKU Central Michigan

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Speaker 2: game tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: You have a bad signal.

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Speaker 2: Could be a bad signal. Maybe in the middle of nowhere,

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Speaker 2: maybe he just simply doesn't want to talk to me,

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Speaker 2: And could you blame him for that? I think the

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Speaker 2: answer is absolutely not. I don't know that last night's

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Speaker 2: performance will make anybody feel any better about the current

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Speaker 2: trajectory of Xavier's basketball season. They have an MTE this

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Speaker 2: weekend in Charleston where they're gonna play Georgia on Friday

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Speaker 2: and then either Clemson or West Virginia on Sunday. But

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Speaker 2: they you could tell that there was a concerted effort

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Speaker 2: to rebound the ball better, which has been an issue.

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Speaker 2: They obviously made seventeen threes. They were great from outside.

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Speaker 2: That is not a very good Old Dominion team. What

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Speaker 2: has been uncanny, I think over the first five games,

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Speaker 2: including last night, and including in the two games they won,

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Speaker 2: specifically the Maris game, is how poor they've been shooting twos,

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Speaker 2: including being right at the rim. Like if you go

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Speaker 2: back to the first game of the season they played Marist,

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Speaker 2: I felt like they paraded to the rim pretty well,

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Speaker 2: they just couldn't finish. I think they had three miss

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Speaker 2: dunks last night. So we'll see, you know, they when

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Speaker 2: they lost the way they to Santa Clara, Folks who

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Speaker 2: thought they're gonna be lucky to win like four games

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Speaker 2: in the Big East. I haven't seen the bottom feeding

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Speaker 2: teams in the Big East quite yet. It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: fun to watch Connecticut play Arizona tonight. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a better gauge and look,

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Speaker 2: nobody expects them to be a tournament team. Frankly, the

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Speaker 2: concept seems laughable when you just got beaten by Santa

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Speaker 2: Clair in a game that you trailed by thirty four

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Speaker 2: at one point. They were competitive ish for twelve to

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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes against Iowa on Friday night. But teams do

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Speaker 2: get better, teams do coalesce. I'm not sure that they're

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Speaker 2: gonna coalesce enough to be as relevant as Musketeer fans

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Speaker 2: want them to be, but perhaps they took a step

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Speaker 2: last night. We will see NKU and Central Michigan tomorrow

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Speaker 2: from Mount Pleasant, Michigan on ESPN fifteen thirty. Rick and

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Speaker 2: Jim Kelch will have that call. Even if Rick I

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Speaker 2: promise you he didn't forget, I'm gonna guess there're somewhere

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Speaker 2: middle of Michigan. Bad cell service or maybe he and

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Speaker 2: Jim are just having such a good time with each

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Speaker 2: other that they don't want a phone call for me

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Speaker 2: to to interrupt. Uh, we could we could take Mike's call.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Michael talks Savior basketball with us. Mike, you can

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Speaker 2: fill in for Rick Boring. How are you?

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Speaker 13: Oh no, can you hear me?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Can you take me off the speaker phone please?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, Well kind of the craft procedure thing I'm

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Speaker 14: going through. Okay, good to hear your voice. Sounds like

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Speaker 14: you're doing well. Hope the family's good.

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Speaker 2: Mike. I am doing I am doing wonderful. My life

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Speaker 2: is great. I'm more concerned about you.

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Speaker 14: Well, I'm doing the best I can. Oh, that's all

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Speaker 14: I can do. How it's gonna end up? So okay,

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Speaker 14: it's a wrecking situation. But anyway, a couple of things

641
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Speaker 14: I wanted to mention Kenny Anderson prior to my basketball tirade.

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Speaker 14: I'm praying so hard for Kenny to get in that hole.

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Speaker 14: I don't know, were you old enough to get to

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Speaker 14: watch him play at the time, well.

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Speaker 2: Not in his prime, no, at the very very end, yes,

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Speaker 2: but not when he was at his peak in uh

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Speaker 2: In you know, I mean the best year he had

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Speaker 2: was eighty one when he was MVP, but he was

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Speaker 2: awesome in the seventies. Much of that but well before

650
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: my time.

651
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Speaker 14: And it was funny because I mean anybody would would agree.

652
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 14: Initially it was Augusttanic College. What the hell are you.

653
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: Talking about in the middle of Illinois, I.

654
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 14: Mean, just nowhere though, and look look what turned out.

655
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 14: But I just think the greatest thing, Well, the guy

656
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 14: was just just so poised and accurate with his throws

657
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 14: and such a great leader. But the guy is just

658
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 14: such a wonderful human being. I mean, all the I

659
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 14: think he does to help other people. I just think

660
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 14: he deserves all the kudos that Cincinnati could ever give anybody.

661
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: You'll get no argument for me or I think anybody

662
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: else listening to this conversation. What what he has done

663
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: in his post playing and coaching career with the Ken

664
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 2: Anderson alliance has been uh, has been awesome. It's been

665
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: awesome to watch. You will find no bigger proponent of

666
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: Ken Anderson's Hall of Fame case than me. You know,

667
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: to me when Ken Stabler got in, because I thought

668
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: if you looked at those two side by side, they

669
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: were they were pretty similar. Ken Stabler gets in the

670
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Number one he won a Super Bowl.

671
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: Number two, we had an awesome nickname. And number three

672
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 2: he played for a team that was a national brand.

673
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: You can't say those things necessarily about Ken Anderson. But

674
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: it's interesting, and this is this is a very unscientific

675
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: way of looking at it. If you look at Pro

676
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: Football References Hall of Fame, they call it a Hall

677
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: of Fame comparison to him, players whose career was of

678
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: similar quality and shape. Among the players listed on Ken

679
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: Anderson's page, Dan Fouts Hall of Famer, Joe Montana Hall

680
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: of Famer, and we're talking about stats, Terry Bradshaw Hall

681
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: of Famer, Bob Greasy Hall of Famer, Warren Moon Hall

682
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: of Famer. Now you might say, well, wait a minute.

683
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: You know Montana and Bradshaw combined to win eight titles.

684
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: Sure Moon doesn't have any. Dan Fouts doesn't have any,

685
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: and so you know, the obvious way to look at

686
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: it is he didn't win a title, so he's not in.

687
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: I think it's a little myopic to look at it

688
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 2: that way. I think when you look at the overall

689
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: statistical body of work, he should he should be in Canton.

690
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Speaker 14: And he just had a way about him. As I said,

691
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 14: his poise seemed I wasn't in a huddle, but it

692
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 14: seemed like his teammates really looked up to him, So

693
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Speaker 14: I just wanted to It's I don't know if he's listening,

694
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 14: but Kenny, we're praying.

695
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: For Ken listens to this show all the time. He

696
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: texts me during the show occasionally, so yes, there's a

697
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: decent chance Ken is hearing us talk about him right now.

698
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 5: Mike Cool, That's awesome.

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Speaker 14: Made my day right there. I'm wondering if the Kentucky

700
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 14: folks are missing mister John Calipari right now, because Arkansas

701
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 14: is real happy to have him.

702
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 2: John Caliperry is a great coach. There are two contrasting styles.

703
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: The thing about college basketball now is every coach in

704
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: the country is trying to do what John Calipari did

705
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 2: for a decade plus, which is coach a new team

706
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: every year. Right in this era of college basketball, John

707
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: Calipery was ironically a little bit late to adapt to

708
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: it because he was still, you know, focusing his team

709
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: building around freshman. But Mark Pope and many others are

710
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: trying to do with John Calipery did it UK for

711
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: a very long time, and Frankly did it Memphis, which

712
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: is coach a new team every year. I think Kentucky's

713
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: gonna end up being pretty good. You've got to get

714
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 2: more locked in defensively. They've got to figure out ways

715
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: to look better cohesively their schedule in the first I mean,

716
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: they've already played a Louisville team that can win the

717
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: national championship and a Michigan State team that can make

718
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: a very very deep run. They still have Saint John's

719
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: on their schedule, like they're They're gonna have to do

720
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: a lot of learning on the fly against a schedule

721
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: that is, in many respects gonna be pretty unforgiving. But

722
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: he was at a loss last night. Mike. There's no

723
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: getting around it. I gotta hit the top of the

724
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Speaker 2: hour man.

725
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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, do you think that?

726
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Speaker 14: Do you think that the Louisville game will be more

727
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 14: of a learn good learning experience for the Bearcatcher. They

728
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 14: have a chance to win.

729
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a learning experience either way, Mike,

730
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: I'll put it that way. They have their work cut out.

731
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Speaker 2: The Cardinals are awesome, So are you it's four o'clock

732
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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty You sure have it's five minutes

733
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: after four. This is ESPN fifteen thirty one. Bowlegs. Thank

734
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: you for listening today. Hopefully you're having wonderful wins. Day

735
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: afternoon's go'll be really busy on UC's campus on Saturday.

736
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: Big Noon Kickoff is going to broadcast from UC's campus

737
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: the Fox pregame Show, and that is going to set

738
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: the stage for the Bearcats versus b YU on Saturday night.

739
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: Finally a nip at night and all of this the

740
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: day after west Miller's team upsets Louisville. There I said,

741
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: it so a lot going on here to talk about

742
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: everything happening around UC athletics with a specific focus on Saturday.

743
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: The director of Athletics at the University of Cincinnati, John Cunningham,

744
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: it's awesome to have you as always.

745
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 5: How are you good, mo, How.

746
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 7: Are you doing?

747
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: I'm doing well. This is gonna be fun on Saturday.

748
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: How does something like Big Noon Kickoff showing up at UC?

749
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: How does this happen?

750
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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, we've set all your Saturday with us.

751
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 6: Saturday is going to be a long day. It's gonna

752
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 6: be a lot of fun.

753
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 5: Obviously.

754
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 6: I think the first thing that happened was we got

755
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 6: selected to be the big Fox eight pm game, So

756
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 6: that's that's always a huge deal. We got that night game,

757
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 6: Nip at Night that we always talk about. Haven't had

758
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 6: one of those in a while, so I think our

759
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 6: fans are gonna be excited. You know, wear black, show out,

760
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 6: sold out, you know, one of those moments at Knippert

761
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 6: that we all we all talk about love and so

762
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 6: that's gonna be fun. But then along with that, you know,

763
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 6: it's announced that we're gonna get big Neon kickoff. Last

764
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 6: time we had that is when we played Oklahoma a

765
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 6: few years ago. And then you know, just to have

766
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 6: that whole crew come in, Matt Lioner, Brady Quinn, mark

767
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 6: Ingram and of course Urban Meyer gave portnoy. I mean,

768
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 6: it's just it's just such a good, cool group of

769
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 6: guys to come in and have us on that national stage.

770
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 6: You know, you just can't buy publicity like that, so

771
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 6: we need people to show up, show out and make

772
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 6: it a great atmosphere and make.

773
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 5: It a great day.

774
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, should look awesome. Does does Fox just call you

775
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: late on Saturday or first thing Sunday. Are you giving

776
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: a heads up that, look, this may be a possibility.

777
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: How does this work?

778
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 6: It was a seven am Sunday morning call from Brett

779
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 6: or Mark, So that's what it was. And you know,

780
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 6: Brett's great for our conference, and so he is working

781
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 6: with Fox to try to figure it out. And so

782
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 6: so he called and said, hey, is it going to

783
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 6: be great at Cincinnati. I said absolutely, we'll We'll show

784
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 6: up and make it special. And so that was my

785
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 6: promise to him. So we need people to to be

786
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 6: on our campus in the morning. Starts at ten am,

787
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 6: you know, arrivally, get there ten to noon is the show.

788
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 6: It's gonna be.

789
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a great day, all right.

790
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: So how will it work? Early on Saturday morning? Line up,

791
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 2: get a ticket, first come, first serve, First come, first serve.

792
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: How does it work.

793
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 6: It's first comfort service.

794
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 7: It opened.

795
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 6: They opened up the gates into the area at six am,

796
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 6: so that's when the well, that's when the interest line,

797
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 6: entrance line opens up. So you know, get there, get

798
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 6: there as soon as you can if you want to

799
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 6: be in the in the front, but if you want

800
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 6: to sleep in a little bit, because it's gonna be

801
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 6: a long day. You know, certainly you arrive at nine

802
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 6: point thirty, you'll still be in and around the program

803
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 6: and get to see the show. You'll just be a

804
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 6: little bit further back. But it's all about, you know,

805
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 6: that energy level that you're always looking for on national television.

806
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 6: You know that that show kicks off and we want

807
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 6: to make sure people see the Bearcats represent for that

808
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 6: type of environment.

809
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: All right, So Ferance Line opens up at six, The

810
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: pregame party starts today thirty. They go on the air

811
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Speaker 2: at ten am. The game is at eight o'clock. What

812
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 2: happens between twelve o'clock and eight.

813
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 5: O'clock, that's the fun part.

814
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 6: You can do whatever you want to do, you know.

815
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 12: We you know we we've.

816
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 6: Been saying, like I said, we've been saying Saturday with us,

817
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 6: you can stay here all day. If you have a

818
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 6: parking pass, you can use your parking pass with Big Noon.

819
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 6: If you want to leave, we we figured it out.

820
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 6: So if you want to go park Big Noon, leave,

821
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 6: go home, take a nap, come back.

822
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 12: You can do that.

823
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 6: You can stay around, stay around here and obviously restaurants

824
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 6: and and things going on, and just have fun all day.

825
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 6: Make it a full day tailgating, so it's up to you,

826
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 6: but we really need people to be there in the

827
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 6: morning and then obviously be there for the game and

828
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 6: and just making a Bearcat.

829
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: Day A big part of anything like that, are the signs.

830
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: Are you giving away a prize for some of the

831
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 2: better signs.

832
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 6: There's a there's a five hundred dollars prize that we're

833
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 6: giving away for the best sign that we that we see,

834
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 6: so that will be certainly a possibility. And then we

835
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 6: have a lot of fun giveaways throughout the throughout the

836
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 6: morning as well. So we've got sponsors that are giving

837
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 6: away a couple of electric bikes. I mean, we're doing

838
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 6: some big thing. We're gonna give away some Jordian gear.

839
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 6: So we're doing some things just to have some fun

840
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 6: and really obviously for the student population, but also for

841
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 6: anybody that shows up and wants to be a part

842
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 6: of it.

843
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: And this is right there in the Bearcat Commons, so

844
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: it's it's a stone's throw from different stadium. It's a huge,

845
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: wide open area. So space in and of itself is

846
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: not going to be an issue.

847
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 5: Correct, that's correct, Yep, yep.

848
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 6: Space is gonna be an issue. It's a great look

849
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 6: for our campus because it's right there, you know, next

850
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 6: to t uc and just that backdrop that we've used

851
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 6: for college game Day in the past, and then of

852
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 6: course Big Newon previously, so that's where it's at. And

853
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 6: you know, parking again available in and around campus if

854
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 6: you have a parking pass, you can park in the

855
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 6: garage that you have a parking pass for. There's also

856
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 6: day day parking as well available. So get down here,

857
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 6: spend some time, have some fun, have a little breakfast

858
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 6: and watch Big Neon.

859
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: How much fun is it going to be? I know

860
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 2: you're asked about this and you come on and talk

861
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 2: about this with me all the time. How much fun

862
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: is it going to be to have a Nippett night

863
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: game on Saturday.

864
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 6: It's it's the best thing that we do and we

865
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 6: do it so well, and that's why it's frustrating for

866
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 6: me and fans when we don't get those night games.

867
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 6: So we're getting on. It's it's a great opponent. Obviously

868
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 6: by us had a heck of a year, but we

869
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 6: still have a lot to play for and a chance

870
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 6: to get to Dallas and compete for a Big twelve championship,

871
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 6: and so it's just know, let's let's win with our

872
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 6: environment and show up and just make sure we make

873
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 6: it tough on the Cougars.

874
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: John Cunningham is with us, the director of Athletics Seth

875
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati. The pregame party for Fox Big Noon

876
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: Kickoff starts at eight thirty entrance line. Entrance line opens

877
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: at six am. The show itself airs from ten o'clock

878
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: in the morning until noon and then Saturday with us

879
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: where you could tailgate, hang out, enjoy concessions before the

880
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: game at eight o'clock. That is going to be happening

881
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: all afternoon. It would be awesome if all of this

882
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: unfolds amid the afterglow of a of a UC win

883
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 2: at the Heritage Bank Center over Louisville. The Cardinals are terrific.

884
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: West Miller's team is off to a four to zero start.

885
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: Walk me through how a game like that comes about.

886
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it really goes back to you know,

887
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 6: these early these early games you'll see them all over

888
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 6: the country are largely played neutral site, and it's almost

889
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 6: replacing you know, those those tournaments that you had where

890
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 6: you went to Maui and played three neutral site games,

891
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 6: or you went to the Bahamas and played three neutral

892
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 6: site games. A lot of those are going away, and

893
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 6: so this year we have essentially we have our three

894
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 6: neutral site games. You know, obviously downtown Cincinnati. We'll go

895
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 6: back to Louisville, but play a neutral site in Louisville

896
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 6: next year at their neutral site, and then we'll go

897
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 6: to we'll go to South Carolina and play a neutral

898
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 6: site game, and then we'll go to Land and play

899
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 6: neutral site game versus versus Georgia. So it's just kind

900
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 6: of the way it works. A lot of it has

901
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 6: to do with your net rating, a lot of it

902
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 6: has to do with you know, it's it's hard. These

903
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 6: games have to be a two way street. It's hard

904
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 6: to get it lined up to where you can get

905
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 6: home and homes.

906
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 2: We got a home and home.

907
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 6: Versus Dayton this year. We always have the home and

908
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 6: home versus Xavier. So we're always gonna have some really

909
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 6: good home and homes, but we're also going to play

910
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 6: some neutral site games.

911
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 5: Just kind of the way of the world.

912
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 6: And so that's how that's how it got going. And

913
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 6: you know, we've played dating down there a couple of times.

914
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 6: Now we have Louisville. It will be a great game,

915
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 6: great atmosphere, and big time college basketball.

916
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: No question about that. Friday night into Saturday gonna be

917
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: a loaded weekend. It should look awesome on National TV.

918
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: Bearcat Commons on Saturday afternoon or Saturday morning, rolling through

919
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon all the way until nip at Night is

920
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: the Bearcat's host BYU on Saturday evening. I know you're

921
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: going to be busy. I know you are busy, so

922
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 2: we appreciate the time and we'll see you this weekend. John,

923
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: thanks so much.

924
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 6: Always good to talk to you, though.

925
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 12: Take care. You're the best.

926
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 2: John Cunningham, the director of Athletics at the University of Cincinnati. Again,

927
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: the entrance line opens at six thirty and the pregame

928
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 2: pre show party starts. I'm sorry, I screwed that up.

929
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: The entrance line opens at six, the pre show party

930
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Speaker 2: starts at eight thirty. The show goes on the air

931
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 2: at ten o'clock. Concessions, giveaways, they'll have a sign contest,

932
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: and then Saturday with us starting at noon all the

933
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: way till six o'clock. The Bearcat's football team. It's going

934
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 2: to be like a version of Homecoming on Saturday at

935
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: UC Wes Miller is going to join us in the

936
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Speaker 2: five o'clock hour, and I'm told we are going to

937
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 2: hear from the former World's Way champion Mike Tyson, who's

938
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: going to be in town this weekend as well. There's

939
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Speaker 2: a lot going on. It is fourteen fifteen minutes after

940
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Speaker 2: five o'clock Rick Broing. We have tracked down Rick Broing,

941
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Speaker 2: and so Rick is going to join us from somewhere

942
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Speaker 2: on the road between here in Mount Pleasant, Michigan. Also,

943
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: I need to mention this, So you heard our guy

944
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: Mike before the top of the hour called in and

945
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: wanted to talk about Ken Anderson, who's been named a

946
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Speaker 2: semi finalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And

947
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: I said, as we were talking about Ken's Hall of

948
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Speaker 2: Fame resume Hall of Fame candidacy, I said, look, there's

949
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Speaker 2: a there's a good chance that Ken is listening to

950
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Speaker 2: this conversation. And lo and behold, at exactly four o'clock

951
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 2: a text from the great Ken Anderson. Yes we're listening.

952
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: Thank you for the kudos. How cool is that? Rick

953
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: Brooring on XU and NKU plus Amy Wagner on Sports

954
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Speaker 2: and Money. In about twenty minutes, on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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969
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Speaker 2: Let's pretend that we're going to talk about football with

970
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Speaker 2: Rick Broorings. We have found Rick. Rick is in routes.

971
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Speaker 2: He's going to call the game tomorrow nk U versus

972
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Speaker 2: Central Michigan, the alma mater of Dan Marley, the alma

973
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: mater of Fox nineteen meteorologist Katherine Bodak. That game is

974
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Speaker 2: tomorrow night. Rick obviously also the proprietor of musketeer report

975
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Speaker 2: dot com. Where are you now?

976
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Speaker 16: That's a good question, though, somewhere in the beautiful state

977
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Speaker 16: of Ohio.

978
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Speaker 2: Really, you haven't even made it to Michigan yet.

979
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Speaker 6: No, we're like an hour outside that.

980
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Speaker 2: Have you been to Mount Pleasant, Michigan before?

981
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Speaker 5: This is the first I hear.

982
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Speaker 2: It's nice.

983
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 12: I hear it's pleasant.

984
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the game last night. You know, I

985
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: went to the game last night. I went saw the

986
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: Musketeers beat Old Dominion. I sat, I sat behind you

987
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: at the game.

988
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 12: Are you that a question?

989
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's I was looking for. I wanted you

990
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 2: to acknowledge that I was there, because you you barely

991
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: acknowledged me when I was. I wanted to see if

992
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 2: you noticed that I even came to the game last night.

993
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 7: What did you want me to do?

994
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 16: I'm sorry, I thought you were watching the game. I

995
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 16: didn't want to you want me to turn around, stand

996
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 16: up and stop it for you?

997
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 5: I was.

998
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: I was hoping for, like, you know, sort of continuous

999
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: rolling insight commentary from you that would just sort of

1000
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 2: make the experience unique. But that's okay. You were very,

1001
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: very busy. You know, this is the first time I'd

1002
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: seen the Musketeers in person. I'm not sure what everybody's

1003
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: so angry about. They looked like the greatest team of

1004
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: all time?

1005
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, how about that last night?

1006
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 16: For last night's performance, I mean it was I think

1007
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 16: a lot of it had to do with old dominion,

1008
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 16: the type of team they were, and the way that

1009
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 16: matchup set up for Xavier play. You have to acknowledge

1010
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 16: that that was a completely different Xavior offense from what

1011
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 16: we've been seeing over the first few games.

1012
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 5: It was.

1013
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 16: It was definitely a revelation for fantom attendance.

1014
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: They will play two games against high major opponents Friday

1015
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: against Georgia and then either Clemson or West Virginia. What

1016
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 2: do you expect to learn about the Musketeers and do

1017
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: they have a prayer of winning either?

1018
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 16: I don't think their chances are great, But pretty much

1019
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 16: all of the teams that we're talking about in that

1020
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 16: grouping are mostly new rosters trying to figure it out.

1021
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 5: I don't think.

1022
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 16: Any of them are playing great basketball right now, so

1023
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 16: I think their games, you'll have a chance. And the

1024
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 16: biggest thing that I'm interested to find out about this

1025
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 16: leager team is, you know, as good as they looked

1026
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 16: against Old Dominion, as good as that smaller starting lineup.

1027
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 16: Look where they have Yovan Malisovich at the five. They

1028
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 16: can space the floor a little bit more, shoot the

1029
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 16: three a little bit better at all the positions. Can

1030
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 16: they rebound with that group against high major competition? Can

1031
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 16: they defend the post with that group against high major competition?

1032
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 16: I think that's what we're about to find out in Charleston.

1033
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: Why are they so bad offensively near the rim?

1034
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 6: I think because their big.

1035
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 16: Men have not figured it out at all yet. I mean,

1036
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 16: the guys that they thought were going to be starting year.

1037
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 16: Anthony Robinson, you know, he's playing twenty seven minutes in

1038
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 16: the first game, played twenty four the next few games,

1039
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Speaker 16: and then all of a sudden, he's not playing at

1040
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Speaker 16: all anymore. He played seven minutes in last night's game.

1041
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 16: He didn't check in until there were fourteen minutes in

1042
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Speaker 16: the second half. I think that's where a lot of

1043
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 16: your problems starts. You just you're getting no production out

1044
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 16: of the guys you thought were going to be your

1045
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 16: most talented big men. So now all of a sudden

1046
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 16: you having to kind of scramble and go to a

1047
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 16: smaller lineup and really space the floor and shoot a

1048
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 16: lot more jump shots. And I think we're you know,

1049
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 16: this Charleston event is going to show us how much

1050
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 16: they're going to pay for that against big East like

1051
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 16: competition you.

1052
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: Know you mentioned and Xavier is one of them, right,

1053
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: Coaches trying to figure out what they have on the

1054
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: fly and in some cases against really good competitions. Xavier

1055
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: had to play a game on the road against Iowa.

1056
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: Coaches have jumped on the bandwagon that we need like

1057
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: four preseason games. I may have asked you this, and

1058
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Speaker 2: pardon me if I have. If you where college basketballs are,

1059
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: what would the preseason look like given the fact that

1060
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 2: we are in a day and age where so many

1061
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: teams are trying to figure out what they have and

1062
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: in many cases brand new rosters entirely.

1063
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 5: And I here's what I want to know.

1064
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 16: Can I get access to whatever the coaches meeting was

1065
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 16: where they all decided they were going to use that

1066
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 16: as the new buzz term every interview I've heard it

1067
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 16: from every coach this year. I think that we need

1068
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 16: to have more preseason games.

1069
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 12: Now.

1070
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Speaker 16: I'm not necessarily against the idea I'm just fascinated by

1071
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 16: how they all had the exact same talking point going

1072
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,479
Speaker 16: into the season. But yeah, I love We talked about

1073
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 16: this when we did the preview show in Studio MO

1074
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 16: that I love exhibition season now where you know, granted,

1075
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 16: it'd be better if these games were regular season games

1076
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 16: that meant something, but since most of these teams aren't

1077
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 16: going to play many of those types of matchups against

1078
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 16: each other, I love the idea of getting these high

1079
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 16: major meetings like a Kentucky Purdue game in the preseason

1080
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 16: as an exhibition.

1081
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 5: So yeah, I say the more the better. With those,

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Speaker 5: I would take three or four of them.

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Speaker 2: Can NK you beat Central Michigan.

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Speaker 16: Well, I think it's going to be a really good

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Speaker 16: test for them.

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Speaker 5: You know that all of their results.

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Speaker 16: So far have been kind of outlaw a results, except

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Speaker 16: for maybe the East Tennessee State game.

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Speaker 5: East Tennessee State was ranked about one hundred and.

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Speaker 16: Twenty spots higher than them in ken Pom, so it

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Speaker 16: was a good matchup on the road.

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Speaker 5: They got off to.

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Speaker 16: A terrible start and they end up losing by double digits.

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Speaker 16: That's what I think you're trying to avoid. And the

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Speaker 16: Central Michigan game. It's another team that's ranked ahead of

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Speaker 16: you in Ken Palm, but it's a closer matchup and

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Speaker 16: you just got to get off to a better start

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Speaker 16: on the road to give yourself a chance. The Tennessee game,

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Speaker 16: obviously there were some limitations in that one physically going

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Speaker 16: to get up against their big men that were always

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Speaker 16: going to make that a very difficult matchup. And then

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Speaker 16: the two non Division one games don't really tell us

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Speaker 16: a lot other than NK.

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Speaker 5: You can score a lot of.

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Speaker 16: Points against lower level competition, so this is going to

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Speaker 16: be a really good measuring stick for the Norse.

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Speaker 2: That'll be an or night on ESPN fifteen thirty. You

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Speaker 2: don't know where in Ohio you are.

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Speaker 16: A Bluffton, Arlington, good Mouth there.

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Speaker 2: They're good and then how far? How far? And how

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Speaker 2: long until you get to Mount Pleasant?

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Speaker 16: Well arrived there were probably more like nine ish after

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Speaker 16: we stop to eat, we're on past or about an

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Speaker 16: eight o'clock arrival.

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Speaker 5: As it currently stands very good.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a good time, be safe, and we'll be

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Speaker 2: listening tomorrow. Rick, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Hey Mo, it was a pleasure seeing at the Xavier

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Speaker 5: game last night.

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Speaker 2: It was nice to be seen at the Davor game.

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Speaker 2: Only two people asked me what I was doing there,

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Speaker 2: and you weren't one of them, so that was nice.

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Speaker 16: That's not true. I actually questioned whether things were all

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Speaker 16: right at your house, worried about you when I saw

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Speaker 16: you there.

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Speaker 2: No, everything's great, though, A fair question pretty much any

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Speaker 2: day of the year.

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Speaker 5: Rick, Thank you, Thanks both.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty. Read Rick's website Musketeer Report dot com.

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Speaker 2: Follow him on Twitter at Rick Burner, NKU and Essentral Michigan.

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Speaker 2: You had that's where Brian Kelly was the coach, and

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Speaker 2: then UC poached him from Central Michigan, and then Brian

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Speaker 2: Kelly was the Butch Jones he was the coach, and

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Speaker 2: then the UC got Butch Jones, and Butch Jones had

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Speaker 2: a quarterback by the name of Dan Lefever. And when

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Speaker 2: Butch came to Cincinnati, I was asked, do you want

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Speaker 2: to have Dan Lefever on the show, And It's like, yeah, fine, whatever,

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Speaker 2: So we had dan Lefever on and then like six

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Speaker 2: weeks later, the UC folks were like, you want to

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Speaker 2: have dan Lefever again? Like, yeah, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 2: I kind of good, kind of good on Dan Leafever.

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Speaker 18: Hey, good?

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Speaker 14: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm well, there's a lot going on. We have a

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Speaker 2: lot to discuss.

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Speaker 18: We've got a lot to get to.

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Speaker 2: Tickets have been in the news recently because there's so

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Speaker 2: many games, so many events going on right now now.

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Speaker 2: AI is an inescapable part of our everyday lives. Right

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Speaker 2: You can't go anywhere without AI infiltratings, in some cases helping,

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Speaker 2: in some cases not helping. AI is going to impact

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Speaker 2: how we buy tickets? Is the positive? Is the impact

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Speaker 2: going to be positive or negative? For an average fan

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Speaker 2: like myself?

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Speaker 19: I think we don't know, yeah, which is kind of

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Speaker 19: my response to most things with AI. But I think

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Speaker 19: clearly there's a problem, right for consumers. If you want

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Speaker 19: to buy a ticket online and you Google you know,

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Speaker 19: Bengals Browns, whatever, Bengals Steelers, whatever game it is that

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Speaker 19: you want to go to, then those c places pay

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Speaker 19: large amounts of money for search engine optimization to show

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Speaker 19: up with the pop at the top of your search. Right,

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Speaker 19: But you still have Sea Geek, you still have stub Hub,

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Speaker 19: you still have Vivid, you still have ticketmasks, and you

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Speaker 19: have to go through each one of them individually to

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Speaker 19: try to find vastly different prices seatability.

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Speaker 18: Right, So all of those things are a really big

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Speaker 18: headache for the consumer.

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Speaker 19: Well, recently, AI developers kind of announced that just despite

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Speaker 19: the fact that before when you went to AI, AI

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Speaker 19: could only just pull a bunch of information, kind of

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Speaker 19: the next frontier of AI is AI having agentic capabilities

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Speaker 19: agency right to do things online. I mean, it is

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Speaker 19: a little bit creepy when you think about it, but

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Speaker 19: if you want to apply that level of capability to

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Speaker 19: the issue that consumers have buying these tickets in such

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Speaker 19: a stressful, redicticulously complicated way, essentially, now what you have

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Speaker 19: is AI. You could say, Moe could say I want

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Speaker 19: tickets to the UC basketball game.

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Speaker 18: Not that you've paid for a UC basketball game in

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Speaker 18: like the last decade, but say you did, say you did.

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Speaker 19: And you said I'm willing to pay one hundred bucks

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Speaker 19: for seats, and then it.

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Speaker 18: Could search right through all of the options and.

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Speaker 19: Give you your top two or three options, and it

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Speaker 19: could also potentially buy them. If you wanted to give AI,

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Speaker 19: you know, your credit card information, which I don't think

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Speaker 19: it exists at that level, you could give it your

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Speaker 19: your price limitations. Here are the potential issues with that,

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Speaker 19: and this gets into the weeds, and listen, I'm not

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Speaker 19: a coder person, but the critics are saying these these

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Speaker 19: ticket places could embed price codes that you and I

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Speaker 19: couldn't see when we're searching for the tickets ourselves, but

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Speaker 19: that could be picked up by these bots, so it

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Speaker 19: could give them a false price, but it's not really

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Speaker 19: the price. So it's pulling up ticket information that isn't

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Speaker 19: real ticket information because there's things that are embedded in

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Speaker 19: the system that you and I can't see. So that's

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Speaker 19: a a problem. B One of the things that AI

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Speaker 19: is looking for is the highest level of like high

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Speaker 19: quality search for you. Right, So if you're saying, like,

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Speaker 19: so it would be like the best seeds in the

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Speaker 19: best location, blah blah blah, and it would score.

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Speaker 18: A number from maybe like zero to ten.

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Speaker 19: So these tickets are a perfect ten for your match, right,

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Speaker 19: And that's kind of how the system works now.

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Speaker 18: But what they could try to do and kind of

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Speaker 18: working the.

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Speaker 19: System is falsely give a higher number to return a

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Speaker 19: ticket to you that wouldn't actually be your best option,

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Speaker 19: and if you were really searching yourself, you would probably

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Speaker 19: find something better option for it.

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Speaker 18: So are we moving in a direction where AI can

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Speaker 18: do this? Yes?

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Speaker 19: Are there issues, Yes, a lot of them right now.

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Speaker 19: But I think the interesting thing is that by twenty

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Speaker 19: twenty nine, stats say, I mean, however much you want

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Speaker 19: to give to that that seventy plus percent of us

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Speaker 19: will forego something like a Google search and go straight

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Speaker 19: to AI to purchase tickets.

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Speaker 2: I now just want to walk downtown to like third

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Speaker 2: and Maine and the guys standing there with the sign

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Speaker 2: that says I have tickets. I now just want to

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Speaker 2: talk to him. I know, right, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: we don't really have printed tickets anymore, so God knows

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Speaker 2: what that guy is going to give me but now

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Speaker 2: I just I want to go back to you know what,

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Speaker 2: there's a shady looking dude standing downtown, but he's fist

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Speaker 2: full of tickets.

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Speaker 18: Sometimes it does it?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, no, I know, And I honestly think you're gambling

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Speaker 19: as much on whatever AI would come up with as

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Speaker 19: the dude on the corner might be giving you.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of gambling, so the sports gambling stories that we're

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Speaker 2: dealing with right now now with the NBA and with baseball,

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Speaker 2: they've advanced, especially in the NBA because cell phones are

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Speaker 2: being confiscated an issue here are prop bets. So are

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Speaker 2: we trending toward a reality where sports wagering is legal,

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Speaker 2: but sports prop bets are going to be off the board.

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Speaker 19: I think we are moving toward a direction where there

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Speaker 19: will likely be more regulation around prop betting.

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Speaker 18: And you and I talked about this very recently.

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Speaker 19: In the fact that listen, these coaches, these players, we

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Speaker 19: want to say that one hundred percent of the time

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Speaker 19: they're out there giving it, they're all because they love

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Speaker 19: the sport, and also they get paid.

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Speaker 18: Pretty good paychecks too.

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Speaker 19: But I think it's easier for any kind of bad

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Speaker 19: character to wrap their mind around Well, I'm not really

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Speaker 19: throwing the outcome of this game. I'm just throwing the

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Speaker 19: first pitch in this inning into the dirt, right.

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Speaker 18: That's a little more okay, I mean, that's not as

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Speaker 18: big of a deal, right.

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Speaker 19: And so what we're starting to see is leagues trying

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Speaker 19: to crack down on this prop betting, which, by the way,

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Speaker 19: these sports books do not want because they're making a

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Speaker 19: heck of a lot more money on these prop bets

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Speaker 19: than they are on regular bets. And you have parlays

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Speaker 19: that have prop bets as part of them. It goes

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Speaker 19: from on average, the making about nine percent off of

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Speaker 19: whatever bet you're placing a closer to twenty percent, right,

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Speaker 19: So this is incredibly lucrative for them. So kind of

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Speaker 19: the first steps that we're starting to see in this

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Speaker 19: direction is MLB is now working with sports books. They're

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Speaker 19: going to cap the amount that you can wager on

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Speaker 19: these individual prop bets, right, so that people cannot have

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Speaker 19: a gazillion dollars writing on this next bitch that is thrown.

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Speaker 18: And then they're.

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Speaker 19: Also working to exclude prop bets from parlays.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, not gonna be able to do the same

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Speaker 2: game parlay with their prop bet anymore.

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Speaker 18: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 19: In Interestingly, Ohio's Governor Mike DeWine has been saying, listen,

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Speaker 19: this is been needed for a long time. These prop

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Speaker 19: bets are incredibly dangerous, and so he's calling on other

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Speaker 19: sports leagues to say, hey, MLB is leading the charge

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Speaker 19: with us, and we need to be paying close attention.

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Speaker 19: MBA is also working with sports books right now, saying

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Speaker 19: anything that can be easily manipulated, like I'm going to

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Speaker 19: hit this next free shot or not, or the first

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Speaker 19: free shot that mo Egger is shooting in this game,

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Speaker 19: he's going to miss or hit, you know, something like

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Speaker 19: a turnover, you know, looks like a sloppy pass, that.

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Speaker 18: Kind of thing.

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Speaker 19: Those kinds of things are working to crack down on

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Speaker 19: and listen, I mean.

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Speaker 18: This is this is across any sport. This could be happening.

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Speaker 19: So now we have the NFL and this is just

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Speaker 19: kind of new information circulating a memo to all the

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Speaker 19: teams saying there are going to be certain prohibited wagers

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Speaker 19: that are plays that can be determined by one person.

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Speaker 19: So think about a quarterback. First p that I'm throwing

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Speaker 19: is going to be an incompletion right right. I mean

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Speaker 19: there's very few players, you know, kicker, maybe they can

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Speaker 19: say I'm going to influence entirely myself the outcome of

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Speaker 19: this play, but there are a few players on that

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Speaker 19: field that can do that.

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Speaker 18: Those kinds of bets they're looking to.

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Speaker 2: Crack down on Amy Wagner's with this Dean Dorton private wealth.

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Speaker 2: We we have talked on a number of occasions about

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Speaker 2: you know, just the saturation of streaming and you know

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Speaker 2: how much it costs for sports fans, especially those of

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Speaker 2: us who love a lot of different sports, to watch games.

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Speaker 2: We got a minor victory. We've gotten a minor victory

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Speaker 2: with Major League Soccer.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, and I listen, let's take our wins and we

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Speaker 18: can get out there.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely yes, because every.

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Speaker 19: Time you want to watch a particular sport on a

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Speaker 19: different night, they're having to go to a different you know,

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Speaker 19: subscription service.

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Speaker 18: So this is a huge win.

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Speaker 19: So if you are a soccer fan, MLS fans had

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Speaker 19: to pay for in an Apple higher level of.

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Speaker 2: The season past. Yeah, Apple, which is a really good product,

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Speaker 2: but it does cost Yes.

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Speaker 19: So starting in twenty twenty six, Apple is saying, hey, guys,

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Speaker 19: if you have a regular Apple subscription, you're good. We

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Speaker 19: will carry all MLS sports. Interesting too for you F

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Speaker 19: one fans.

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Speaker 18: Apple has the rights to.

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Speaker 19: F one starting in twenty twenty six five year deal.

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Speaker 19: There so expecting that they will continue down the same path.

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Speaker 19: Now you can watch F one m alt sucker if

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Speaker 19: you have an existing Apple subscription. Are you still have

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Speaker 19: to pay for the Apples?

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Speaker 2: Sure? But I don't have past extra tier. Yes, a

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Speaker 2: minor victory for sports victory.

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Speaker 18: Let's take him when we can get him.

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Speaker 5: Right now.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati is playing Louisville and basketball on Friday. Now, your

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01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 2: husband's a Louisville fan, you're a Kentucky fan. Your friend

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01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,879
Speaker 2: Mosey UC fan? Who will you be rooting for on Friday?

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Speaker 18: Obviously you see?

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Speaker 7: Okay? Good?

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Speaker 18: Obviously I was easy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought I was going to have to like

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Speaker 2: bribe you or something.

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Speaker 19: You didn't even have to think about it for a second. Remember,

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Speaker 19: my team took an absolute beating.

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Speaker 2: They took a drubbing last night, well last.

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Speaker 18: Night, and by Wouisville.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: So I love my husband very much, but anyone up

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Speaker 19: against his cards right now.

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Speaker 18: I'm right see yeah, okay to my cats, I'll take.

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Speaker 2: Them very good. If the Bearcats beat Louisville on Friday.

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Speaker 2: I by about nine thirty on Friday evening. If you're

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Speaker 2: looking for something to do, I will be out somewhere celebrating. Okay,

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Speaker 2: bring your husband, Okay.

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Speaker 18: Let's do that. I'm also we need to like wager.

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Speaker 19: Speaking of Betts gambling, you would like to gamble on

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Speaker 19: these yeah college basketball games.

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Speaker 18: We need to come up with something here.

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Speaker 2: Well, you see in Kentucky don't play.

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Speaker 12: I know.

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Speaker 18: Oh that's true. We're on the same side of this one.

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Speaker 18: I'll keep thinking.

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Speaker 2: Okay, come up with a come up with a wage.

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Speaker 18: I'll get back with you.

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Speaker 2: Amy Wagner, Dean Dorton. Find out more about the Dean

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Speaker 2: Dorton difference go to Dean Doorton well dot com. Amy.

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Speaker 2: Thank you as always happy to be here. It is

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Speaker 2: thirteen away from five o'clock. We're supposed to talk to

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Speaker 2: Mike Tyson in the next hour, plus Wes Miller plus

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Speaker 2: Richard Skinner. We have a lot of ground to come

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Speaker 2: we can talk to another person. Ron and Milford. What's up?

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Speaker 12: Mo Uh.

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Speaker 13: I'm it's been a while. I don't know if this

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Speaker 13: has come up because I've been kind of under the weather,

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Speaker 13: so I haven't had a chance to listen to a

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Speaker 13: lot this week.

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Speaker 14: But uh.

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Speaker 13: Replacements for Zach Taylor. I read something that gave me PTSD,

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Speaker 13: and I hope it doesn't give you PTSD because I

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Speaker 13: know we're about the same age.

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Speaker 20: But I read that.

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Speaker 13: Chris Shula, defensive coordinator of the Los Angeles Rams and

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Speaker 13: when I saw that about had a stroke because as

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Speaker 13: we know, we we've already tried Dave Shure. Now it's like,

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01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 13: let's try his son really.

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 13: Please, what what what is Paul Danner?

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Speaker 12: What is? What have you heard?

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Speaker 20: I mean, I know that Zach's still here, but I

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Speaker 20: mean that cannot be true.

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Speaker 12: I can't.

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Speaker 13: I can't live through that.

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Speaker 2: Mo Well, I don't necessarily think it's fair to hold

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Speaker 2: against Chris the failures of his dad. Chris, I think

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Speaker 2: is going to be this. This doesn't feel like a

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Speaker 2: cycle where there's like the Ben Johnson or another years

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Speaker 2: where like everybody wanted to talk to Josh McDaniels. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't feel like that guy is out there. I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, you talk about like familiar names to folks

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Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. I think Jesse Minner's name is gonna come

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Speaker 2: up a lot. But Chris Jula has been has been

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Speaker 2: coaching in the NFL for a while. He has risen

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Speaker 2: up the ranks with the La Rams. He was on

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Speaker 2: their staff when they beat the Bengals in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: He has been the defensive coordinator over the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years. So I'm not gonna hold against the Chris Sula,

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Speaker 2: the failures of his dad. But it does feel like

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Speaker 2: there's legitimate interest. It does feel like there's legitimate interest

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Speaker 2: on behalf of the New York Giants and Chris Sula.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 20: We'll see, maybe maybe he can go somewhere, somewhere else,

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Speaker 20: because like I said, I feel like just the name

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Speaker 20: itself give me pts emo.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it could be easier for his dad

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Speaker 2: to come back and we could celebrate Dave thirty years

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Speaker 2: or so after he got.

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Speaker 12: Like a.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, but mo, can we agree that.

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Speaker 20: I feel like we know the offense doesn't really need fixing,

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Speaker 20: So I feel like the next hire should be a

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Speaker 20: defensive minded coach.

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Speaker 13: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for the best candidate, and to me, that's

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Speaker 2: doesn't really matter where your your discipline comes from. I

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Speaker 2: don't I'm looking for the best leader. I'm looking for

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Speaker 2: the person who can be who's gonna hire really good

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Speaker 2: assistance and who's going to be able to work hand

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Speaker 2: in hand with whoever's picking the players. And if that

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Speaker 2: person has an offensive background, fine, If that person is

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Speaker 2: a defensive background, fine. I know there's a school of

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Speaker 2: thought that says, well, you go from an offensive guy

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Speaker 2: to a defensive guy, from a defensive guy to an

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Speaker 2: offensive guy. I don't so much care about that. I'm

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Speaker 2: looking for somebody who's going to manage the game well,

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Speaker 2: who's going to have a positive imprint on the roster,

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Speaker 2: who players aren't gonna quit on him, and who knows

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Speaker 2: what to look for when hiring assistance.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: No, is it fair to say. I mean, like I said,

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Speaker 20: you and I are about the same age. I feel

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Speaker 20: like I've seen this act before with Zach Taylor. It

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Speaker 20: looks like the team is quit.

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Speaker 13: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 7: Does it look that way to you?

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Speaker 10: So?

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Speaker 2: I think you're half right. I think the team, I

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Speaker 2: think the defensive players in mass have quit. I think

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Speaker 2: there are exceptions. I thought Miles Murphy played hard on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: But I think the difference, though, is the reason I

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Speaker 2: think you're only half right is I don't think we've

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Speaker 2: seen this before. Over the course of Zach's first six seasons,

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Speaker 2: I can't recall a time where I thought that a

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Speaker 2: lot of players just didn't care. And to me, that's

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Speaker 2: what makes this different, and that's what makes this an

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01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: indictment on Zach Taylor. This is the first time. And

1514
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: there have been players who maybe weren't totally boding. Carlos

1515
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 2: Dunlapp wanted out for a reason, and maybe there were

1516
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,759
Speaker 2: individual players that just didn't buy in and their effort

1517
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 2: on showed as much. But what I saw on Sunday,

1518
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 2: we're a whole lot of defensive guys who didn't play

1519
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: hard and who seemingly didn't care. And I think that's

1520
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 2: the first time we could say that during Zach Taylor's

1521
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 2: time in Cincinnati. That to me is what is so

1522
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 2: striking about what Sunday looked like. And it's why Zach Taylor,

1523
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 2: for me, at least for the first time in six

1524
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,839
Speaker 2: and a half years, is firmly in the crosshairs because

1525
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: it feels like a large chunk of the team has

1526
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 2: quit on him.

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01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1528
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 13: No, I just don't know what to think, because, like

1529
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 13: I said, I mean, it's just.

1530
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 20: Even if the Bengals try, I feel like the only

1531
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 20: game they can possibly win on the rest of the schedule.

1532
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 13: I don't know how you feel, but is the Who Care?

1533
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 21: What I'm listening is the Who Cares Loser Bowl, which

1534
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 21: is the Bengals Browns Week seventeen because Mike McDaniel has

1535
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 21: turned the ship around on the Dolphins. So, I mean,

1536
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 21: the Who Cares Bowl is about the only game we

1537
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 21: can win.

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01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 2: It's the only I mean. I think they'll be favored

1539
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: against Arizona here. I think they'll be favored against Cleveland,

1540
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 2: and they'll be underdogs against everybody else.

1541
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1542
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 20: I mean, the way Joe Kobe Breseette is playing, he

1543
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 20: could probably tear up the Bengals secondary.

1544
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 2: I would think that's the thing, right, I mean, you go, okay, well,

1545
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 2: they're gonna get carved up by Lamar Jackson and they're

1546
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 2: gonna have a hard time with Drake May and Josh

1547
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 2: Allen is gonna do their thing. The problem with a

1548
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 2: really bad defense is it makes the bad offense is good.

1549
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 2: We saw that against the Jets, right, we saw what

1550
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: the New York Jets, which two weeks prior had a

1551
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 2: game where they threw for negative ten yards. You worry

1552
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 2: about the Cardinals, and you worry about the Dolphins, and

1553
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 2: you worry about the Cleveland Browns, and in all likelihood

1554
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: shoot or Sanders. It ain't good run, But I gotta

1555
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 2: run man, thanks so much. He'll be well, all right,

1556
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: hope you're feeling better. Zach Taylor's teams I've never thought

1557
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 2: have quit. What I watched on Sunday was a defense

1558
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 2: that quit. It's five o'clock on ESPN fifteen third.

1559
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: School is in session when the Bengals look to take

1560
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: New England to task. Who new history class could get

1561
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: this violent? Speaking of the Patriots? I wonder how I

1562
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: would look in a powdered wig. Probably not good. Coverage

1563
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: begins at nine am Sunday, stream for free on the

1564
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: new and improved iHeartRadio app or ESPN fifteen thirty, the

1565
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: official home of the Cincinnati Banker.

1566
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 2: Right, we are late for the hour. My apologies, oh Terrent,

1567
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 2: well done. This is the bud Light five o'clock Happy

1568
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 2: Hour on ESPN fifteen thirty. On Owager, we have a

1569
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 2: loaded hour, you know. And here's the great thing about

1570
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 2: this upcoming hour of sports talk radio number one. It's free.

1571
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 2: Nobody's making you pay for anything. You're welcome to send

1572
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 2: me Venmo if you want. Nobody is asking for your

1573
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 2: your home address. We're not gonna send you a pamphlet. No, No,

1574
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 2: here's what's coming up this hour. In just a few minutes,

1575
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 2: we're supposed to get a phone call from former World

1576
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 2: heavyweight champion Mike Tyson. Now we've kind of been told

1577
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 2: we don't get a lot of time with Mike. But

1578
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson is going to be at the hard Rock

1579
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 2: Casino on Sunday for his one man show, and so

1580
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk with Mike Tyson. I believe in just

1581
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 2: like a minute or two plus. Richard Skinner is going

1582
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 2: to be with us to talk about the Bengals. Joe

1583
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 2: Burrow of full participant at practice today. May he play

1584
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 2: on Sunday? Should he play on Sunday? I think he should.

1585
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be asked to examine his foot. Maybe

1586
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: Richard's done that, I'm not sure. Diego Valeri, who is

1587
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 2: a former MLS MVP, is going to be on the

1588
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 2: show at about twenty five minutes to talk about FC

1589
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 2: Cincinnati versus Miami and Wes Miller. My interview with Wes

1590
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 2: Miller coming up at five forty five. All that before

1591
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 2: six o'clock, and that at six. Dan Horden Dave Lapham

1592
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 2: with Bengals game plan. Why would you listen to another

1593
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 2: radio station? We got Mike, Uh, Mike Tyson is going

1594
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 2: to be at the hard Rock Casino Downtown. He is

1595
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 2: going to be on stage for his one man show,

1596
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 2: which is called Return of the Mike, Live on stage,

1597
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 2: legendary laughs with one of the icons of boxing, Iron

1598
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson. Tickets are available now. Go to Casino dot

1599
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 2: hard rock dot com if you want to go see

1600
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson on Sunday night. It's uh, it's it's awesome

1601
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 2: to have you on the show. Mike, good afternoon. How

1602
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 2: are you.

1603
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 8: I'm great, brother, how about you?

1604
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm doing really well. A lot of folks in Cincinnati

1605
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 2: are excited that you're coming to town. Have you spent

1606
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 2: any time in Cincinnati before?

1607
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, of course I know people in Cincinnati under the

1608
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 8: tub family. My wife has family out there, her father

1609
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 8: from Cincinnati.

1610
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 2: And Cincinnati, as you know, is a city with great

1611
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 2: boxing history.

1612
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 8: Yes, and Charles from Cincinnati too, as.

1613
01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 2: There, Charles Aaron Pryor, Yeah, no question about it. Yeah right, yeah,

1614
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 2: we know our boxing here in Cincinnati. All right, Return

1615
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 2: of the Mic, the one man Show. For folks who

1616
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: haven't seen it, who are thinking about getting tickets, what's

1617
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 2: gonna happen on Sunday night at the hard Rock Casino, Hey.

1618
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 8: Guy, It's just gonna be an algamation of story that

1619
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 8: you already know but don't know the underlining story behind

1620
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 8: them pretty much. I'm talking, I'm Jay Paul fight anything.

1621
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 8: It's gonna ben It's gonna be so awesome. We have

1622
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 8: did a show and we have had a good time.

1623
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 2: So you started this last year, right, you started a

1624
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 2: series of one man shows. Give us an idea of

1625
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 2: how the first run of them went.

1626
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 8: Sensation though, I had an awesome time. I'm so happy

1627
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 8: to come to Cincinnati and do them and fee much

1628
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 8: of my friends in Cincinnati. My wife has family in Cincinnati,

1629
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 8: and I'm just looking forward to coming and having a

1630
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 8: good time.

1631
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 2: What is like the story that people want to hear

1632
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 2: most from you?

1633
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 12: I don't know a lot of this.

1634
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 8: One's gonna be a lot about probably my last fight

1635
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 8: and with my fight coming up.

1636
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the last fight. It was

1637
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: about a year ago. You're going to get back in

1638
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 2: the ring now? Is this in twenty twenty six? Is

1639
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 2: this going to happen with Floyd Mayweather?

1640
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 8: Yes?

1641
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: All right?

1642
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 12: Yes?

1643
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 2: What did you what did you learn about yourself at

1644
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 2: this stage in your in your boxing career from the

1645
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 2: last fight that you could apply to the next one.

1646
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 8: I'm going to be a lot much healthier in this

1647
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 8: fight than I was the last one.

1648
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 12: God willing. I'm just looking forward to it. I'm in

1649
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 12: good shape. I never I never stopped training. I'm in

1650
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 12: great shape.

1651
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 8: I'm ready to fight. I'm just looking forward to it.

1652
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 8: This is making history.

1653
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:34,799
Speaker 12: No one's never done this before.

1654
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 8: So many countries that bedding for us right now never

1655
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 8: been done before.

1656
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,919
Speaker 2: What is what is your relationship with Floyd Mayweather?

1657
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 5: Like?

1658
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 12: I respect him?

1659
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,719
Speaker 2: What is your relationship with Jake Paul?

1660
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 22: Like?

1661
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 12: Now?

1662
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 8: I have nothing. I have no soult feelings against anybody.

1663
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 8: I'm pretty happy.

1664
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 12: Guy.

1665
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 2: Did you did you have any idea that that fight

1666
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 2: was going to be like? That was? That was an

1667
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 2: immensely popular sporting event. I'll never forget that Friday night,

1668
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 2: everybody's jammed into a bar to watch you fight Jake Paul.

1669
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: Did you have any idea that you would have the

1670
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 2: reception that you got, not just from the crowd that night,

1671
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 2: but from people who are excited to see you step

1672
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 2: in the ring again.

1673
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 12: Well, I did.

1674
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 8: Expect it, but not that big, to be honest, no

1675
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 8: one expected to be that big. Come on, there's nobody

1676
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 8: expected that I didn't expect I'd be I'd be lying

1677
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 8: if I said I did you know my ego is

1678
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 8: not that big, I'll.

1679
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 12: Be lying if I.

1680
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 2: And now this one, you've got to think, you know

1681
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 2: it's it's going to be massive. Nothing against Jake Paul,

1682
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 2: but I think of like two of the biggest names

1683
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 2: in boxing over the last forty years, Floyd Mayweather versus yourself,

1684
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 2: a complete and in total contrast of styles. I think

1685
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 2: it's going to be a lot of fun.

1686
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 8: I think it will be awesome.

1687
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 2: When I'm when I'm growing up. Right in the late

1688
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 2: eighties early nineties, Mike Tyson fights were an event, right,

1689
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 2: Like I beg my dad, We've got to get the

1690
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 2: pay per view. I gotta watch Mike fight. It feels

1691
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 2: like boxing isn't where it was. What needs to happen

1692
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 2: for that sport to get back to that point?

1693
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 12: Hey, the best need to fight the best. That's all

1694
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 12: it needed to be said.

1695
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 8: Number one need to fight number two, the best to

1696
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 8: fight the best, just like Listen used to be so

1697
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 8: Crowfit did right, they fought the best to do best.

1698
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 2: Foot do you follow the sport closely?

1699
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 8: Now I'm trying to, but it gets it gets tricky

1700
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 8: on me.

1701
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 12: No one fighting bit to me, it has a lot

1702
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:40,839
Speaker 12: to do with promotion.

1703
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 8: The best to fight the best else they had no,

1704
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,560
Speaker 8: they have no reason being in that contenders.

1705
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, the best for the best, no question about it,

1706
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 2: no question about it. So when you fight Floyd Mayweather,

1707
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 2: will that be it? Or do you see yourself fighting

1708
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 2: after that one?

1709
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 8: I really don't see myself doing it again. But you know,

1710
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 8: anything's possible.

1711
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 12: You know, people just.

1712
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 8: I don't miss so money away, like if they want

1713
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 8: to go bloke.

1714
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 12: So I don't know.

1715
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,600
Speaker 2: All right, Uh so Sunday evening. How long is the

1716
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: show on Sunday?

1717
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 12: Probably an hour? Okay, fifty five fifty five minutes, all right?

1718
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 2: And uh, you're gonna talk a lot about the Jake

1719
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 2: Paul fight. You're gonna talk a lot about the uh,

1720
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 2: the fight against Floyd Mayweather.

1721
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 8: What what is I'm not gonna I'm not gonna talk

1722
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 8: a lot about anything. I'm I mean, I'm gonna just

1723
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 8: talk about.

1724
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 12: Everything, but a lot about anything.

1725
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not enough time to talk about a lot

1726
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:40,759
Speaker 8: about everything.

1727
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 2: I hear you. What is what is the one? What

1728
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: is the one? Fight from back? In the day that

1729
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 2: people want to ask you about the most.

1730
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Speaker 8: I don't know, I've never I've never. No one been

1731
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 8: talking to me about fights lately. It's all but it's

1732
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 8: always been about the show and entertainment and all that stuff.

1733
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 8: And there's no basing nothing about fighting in.

1734
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Speaker 12: My show pretty much.

1735
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, have a great time at Cincinnati.

1736
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: I cannot wait for the show on Sunday.

1737
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 8: It's gonna be and I I can't wait.

1738
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 2: It's gonna be It's gonna be a lot of fun.

1739
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 2: And uh, you know you in this town with our

1740
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 2: fight history, our boxing history, is gonna be a blast. Mike.

1741
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate the time, man, Thanks so much.

1742
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 12: Hey, thank you.

1743
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Thank you very much, Mike Tyson.

1744
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 2: If you want to go see him, the show is

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01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,839
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Speaker 2: The show is at seven o'clock Return of the Mic

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Speaker 2: Mike Tyson live on stage, and there was my interview

1749
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Speaker 2: with him. It is sixteen minutes after five o'clock Richard

1750
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Speaker 2: Skinner with an interview that I hope is almost as

1751
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Speaker 2: good as that one next on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: With t schools in session, when the Bengals look to

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Speaker 1: take New England to task, who new history class could

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Speaker 1: get this violent? Speaking of the Patriots, I wonder how

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Speaker 1: I would look in a powdered wig. Probably not good.

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Speaker 2: Based on that last interview you just heard a few

1772
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 2: minutes ago, there are some very very early Marconi buzz

1773
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 2: for this show, so long way to go. Richard Skinner

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01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 2: joins us on Wednesdays. He's with Local twelve and we

1775
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 2: can read his work at Local twelve dot com. Is

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01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 2: the Bengals get said to host the New England Patriots

1777
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 2: on Sunday? Only seven games to go? Hi Skinny, Hi

1778
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 2: mo So.

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Speaker 7: I didn't get a chance here the Mike Tyson interview

1780
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 7: because I was busy doing some other stuff when he

1781
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 7: after this, did he sing in the air tonight? I

1782
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 7: chance at all?

1783
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 2: You know, we should have asked him to do that.

1784
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 2: That was not That was not something that we were

1785
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 2: able to get to. But perhaps perhaps the next time

1786
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 2: we have Mike on, well, we'll see if we can

1787
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 2: get that done. All right, Joe Burrow practiced. Is he

1788
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 2: gonna play on Sunday?

1789
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 10: No?

1790
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 7: I think it's a long shot. He's practicing foul, although

1791
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 7: I'm guessing he the very least split reps, if not

1792
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 7: gave up less rep or or had less reps compared

1793
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 7: to Jake Browning Joe Flacco. The plan was never from

1794
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 7: the practice this, this, this, today, this is a third

1795
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 7: straight Wednesday's missed. He's gonna throw tomorrow. We'll see how

1796
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 7: that goes. He says he feels good. He says his

1797
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 7: whole body feels good. We'll see. And I just think,

1798
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 7: I I think rushing Joe Burrow back out there. I

1799
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 7: will say this in the locker room today. So we

1800
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 7: get to doll with Flaco's press commas. I had to

1801
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 7: go talk to a couple of players, and I left

1802
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 7: the locker room early to go transcribe part of Flacco.

1803
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 7: And as I walked past Burrow's locker, He's sitting in it,

1804
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 7: and I kid you not, he looked like he had

1805
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 7: just been shell shocked from zero blitzes for like fifty

1806
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 7: three plays. Like what just happened to me?

1807
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 23: I literally it took me a back, like I thought, I.

1808
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 7: Walk by now, he's got that hairdo now right where

1809
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 7: it just drapes in his face. Sometimes it's all over

1810
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 7: the map and needs a haircut. But I literally I

1811
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,560
Speaker 7: walked by him and I looked, and I talked to

1812
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,520
Speaker 7: another meme where I go, It's okay.

1813
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, that looked weird.

1814
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 7: I go, shure did.

1815
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 2: So I mean, do you think he was dealing with

1816
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 2: some sort of physical disc is there emotional trauma for

1817
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 2: realizing there are seven more Bengals games to go? Like,

1818
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: what did any idea what he's dealing with.

1819
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:08,520
Speaker 14: I'll go the ladder.

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01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 7: I'll go the ladder because again he did practice in full,

1821
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 7: which means he got through the practice physically. Again, I

1822
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 7: know he didn't take all the reps. I'm gonna go

1823
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 7: with with the ladder, like, Okay, now I'm good enough

1824
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 7: to traumas and play or I really want.

1825
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 12: To with you?

1826
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1827
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 2: Uh Dejon Anthony was back in practice. Can he play

1828
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 2: on Sunday?

1829
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 12: Yay?

1830
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 7: I think he can anybody.

1831
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 2: But Ginos don't literally anybody.

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01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 7: I'm kind of with you. I'm kind I'm very much

1833
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 7: with you. And the weird part is that we've talked

1834
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 7: about is that nauseum. I mean, this wasn't like something

1835
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 7: we didn't know last year, clear evidence of last year,

1836
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 7: and yet you said no, we're good. In fact, we're

1837
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 7: good enough with the depth and it's not gonna matter

1838
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 7: there either. Even though we don't want to play the

1839
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 7: guys by him because don't think they can play.

1840
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 2: What are we doing by I keep framing it like this.

1841
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:00,759
Speaker 2: You know, if I if I if Douke Tobin worked

1842
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 2: for me, and I go, hey man, the genostone thing

1843
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 2: just hasn't worked, Which that's a different discussion. Who else

1844
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 2: do we got it? The answer is, well, we can't

1845
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 2: play any of these other guys. Well, that's that's another

1846
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 2: damning indictment against you.

1847
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 23: Correct, it's a down one thousand percent. Look, if you

1848
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 23: thought it was okay to run Gino and Jordan back

1849
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 23: and say, a new coordinator with new ideas, who knows

1850
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 23: how to handle the safety position, he's gonna make this work.

1851
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 7: You still have to have a backup plan of some kind.

1852
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 7: You were so if you were banking on that, you

1853
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 7: were banking on those two guys getting do all seventeen

1854
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 7: games healthy. You can't bank on that ever in the NFL.

1855
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 7: And yet they did. And on top of that, Sandy,

1856
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 7: they've both been healthy, healthy, and they both stink.

1857
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 2: Has Trey Hendrickson played his last game as a Bengal man.

1858
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 7: I knew you were gonna ask that question to me.

1859
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say no for this reason, he's gonna have

1860
01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:00,600
Speaker 7: to put up something. Whatever that time for incomes and

1861
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 7: it may be. Okay, here's a three game stretch Ick

1862
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 7: can excel in, which is the Dolphins, the Cardinals, and

1863
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 7: the Browns, because we got a chance to take a lead,

1864
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 7: and I'll be the closer and I'll close those three

1865
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 7: games and people will think I'm the Trey Hendrickson of

1866
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 7: you know, the last couple of seasons when I had

1867
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 7: seventeen and a half sacks. He has to do that mode.

1868
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 7: He's not gonna get paid. I mean, you're not going

1869
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 7: to do this on the income of Yeah, I know

1870
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 7: you probably made business decisions. I get it, but even

1871
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 7: when you played, you only had really one good game,

1872
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 7: and at thirty two years old, coming off supposedly a

1873
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 7: hip and back and telvis and whatever other issue business

1874
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:37,759
Speaker 7: decision issues, you really gotta pay that guy, mo, I mean, Anesta,

1875
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 7: would you really pay that guy? No, I don't think

1876
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 7: any team will. And so he has to come back

1877
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 7: in some capacity at some level for at least, in

1878
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 7: my opinion, at least three games and maybe more than.

1879
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 7: I mean, maybe he legitimately is hurt to the point

1880
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 7: where he can't play, and he's hurt to the point

1881
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 7: where he's hurt. I don't know if it's hurt to

1882
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 7: the point where he can't play. But I never want

1883
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 7: to speak for a player's injury. I just just it's

1884
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 7: not fair. I'm not that person. But to your original question,

1885
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 7: I do think he plays because I do think he'll

1886
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 7: get healthy enough and whatever capaccity that is to go

1887
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 7: out and play, like I said, at least the final

1888
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 7: three games, to say, Okay, this is me, guys, you

1889
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 7: see me. I know I'm about to turn thirty two,

1890
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:18,639
Speaker 7: but I can still do this.

1891
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 2: Do you get the sense that Jermaine Burton has been

1892
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 2: burning the candle at both ends to get ready to

1893
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 2: to get ready to replace Jamar Chase. I can't even

1894
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 2: say it without laughing.

1895
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 7: If you'd have just done the burning candies at both

1896
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 7: hands stop, I'd have said, sure he sure is. It's

1897
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 7: not surprising that he is. I would have taken you

1898
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:41,600
Speaker 7: up on that part of it. Here's what's going to

1899
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 7: be so weird about Sunday, right, So they technically only

1900
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 7: have four receivers up at the moment. If you're going

1901
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:52,680
Speaker 7: through the whole active roster situation, which is t andre Yoshibash, Tinsley,

1902
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 7: and Charlie Jones, and usually you keep a fist up,

1903
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 7: and you could argue if they decide to activate Mike Kasiki,

1904
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 7: which I do think they'll do, to carry four tight

1905
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 7: ends in the Sunday and still carry four wide receivers,

1906
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 7: and you know, we're good. The thing that'll be interesting

1907
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 7: is if they elevate like Kendrick Pryor from the practice

1908
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 7: squad on Saturday and he's active and Jermaine Burton isn't.

1909
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 7: I mean, at that point, what are we doing?

1910
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:18,919
Speaker 2: Uh? Would any of us be surprised?

1911
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 7: Though?

1912
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 22: No?

1913
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 7: No, I literally, Gilly, I like that sounds like it's

1914
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 7: in play. If you're gonna carry five wide receivers like

1915
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 7: you normally do and you don't trust your mane in

1916
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 7: any way, shape or form, and you don't do you

1917
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 7: just go to heck with it. Man, we're gonna embarrass

1918
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 7: this guy even further until he gets his act together.

1919
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:38,719
Speaker 7: And it is such a weird circumstance because they don't

1920
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 7: believe in him. They've they've given up on him, and

1921
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 7: they should because he's given up on himself. And at

1922
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 7: that point, what why why Mike Brown is he still

1923
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 7: on the roster. I mean, I know you're trying to

1924
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 7: probably help a kid because your father planning again, and

1925
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 7: I'm all for that in some ways, but this kid

1926
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 7: can't get out of his own way. At some point,

1927
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 7: he just gon't. We can't do this anymore. We're good,

1928
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 7: but they still I mean, I'm still on the fifty three,

1929
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 7: the guy they can't even think about putting on. And

1930
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 7: even this week when you're missing your best guy and

1931
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 7: he tech we should be at least after Jamaar's gone,

1932
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 7: one of your five best and you still might not

1933
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 7: have him on the field, and it's a party that wonders.

1934
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 7: It's and you know, we don't get clarification on this,

1935
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 7: but there's a party that also wonders are they planning

1936
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 7: on him playing? And then when Saturday comes and he

1937
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 7: misses a Saturday meeting, which he probably will because is

1938
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 7: what he does, then what do you do?

1939
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 2: You know, he might just not show up for the game.

1940
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 2: I mean, there's the The possibilities with Jermaine Burton are

1941
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Speaker 2: unfortunately endless.

1942
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Speaker 8: Thank yous, and.

1943
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 2: Seven more games of this to go. It's it's so exciting, Skinny,

1944
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Speaker 2: Thanks so much.

1945
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 6: I'm so excited.

1946
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Speaker 2: Okay, caatured Skinner Local twelve at Local twelve dot com.

1947
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 2: Former MLS m VP. Diego Valeri is going to join

1948
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Speaker 2: us to talk about UH Sunday's tilt. FC Cincinnati and

1949
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Speaker 2: Miami will have that conversation next on he has fifteen thirty.

1950
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Speaker 9: You've been listening to football in the NATI, brought to

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1953
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Speaker 9: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center.

1954
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1955
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1957
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Speaker 10: Northbound seventy five at Sharon Road, it's an accident that's

1958
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Speaker 10: been moved off onto the left shoulder. It was in

1959
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Speaker 10: the left two lanes, but you still got a five

1960
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Speaker 10: minute to lay back from Shepherd Lane and on southbound

1961
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Speaker 10: seventy one. Accident approaching Smith Edwards on the right shoulder.

1962
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Speaker 10: I'm at Ezelk with track.

1963
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Speaker 2: Right to it. Diego Valaria is with us the twenty

1964
01:38:54,439 --> 01:39:00,719
Speaker 2: seventeen MLS MVP twenty fifteen MLS Cup MVP Match Analyst

1965
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 2: Spanish match Analysts for MLS Season Pass on Apple TV.

1966
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 2: The Eastern Conference Semifinal is Sunday. FC Cincinnati hosting Lionel

1967
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Speaker 2: Messi and Miami and Diego kind enough to join us

1968
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 2: and talk about it's awesome to have you, Diego. How

1969
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 2: are you for me? Do you hear me? Okay? Yes,

1970
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Speaker 2: all right, there you go?

1971
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Speaker 15: You no?

1972
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 2: You sound great. I appreciate you joining us. We're stoked

1973
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:30,639
Speaker 2: for Sunday. Let's talk about round one. FC Cincinnati survives

1974
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 2: against Columbus. What did you learn about Pat Newton's team

1975
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 2: during that series?

1976
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 24: Yes, you know, he showed since he show a lot

1977
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:43,679
Speaker 24: of character because Columbus played really well in the series.

1978
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 24: I think, uh, you know, after that second game, we

1979
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 24: all thought about the momentum Columbo got after scoring four

1980
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 24: goals and Cincinnati didn't look well most likely the first

1981
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 24: thirty minutes until they got down a man.

1982
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 8: But third game it was going to.

1983
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Speaker 24: Be very important, most likely at home with the people,

1984
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 24: and you know, they figured out the way to turn

1985
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:11,719
Speaker 24: around a difficult result. So that it's a big show

1986
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 24: of character that a team that is looking for betting

1987
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 24: a championship, and that's the most important for me in

1988
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 24: terms of the first round what.

1989
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 2: I think of all time great Portland Timbers. You're at

1990
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 2: the top of the list, Evander might be right behind you.

1991
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Speaker 2: What has it been like watching him this season?

1992
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 24: Well, you know, Ivander is those is the kind of

1993
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 24: player that you always enjoy watch that he can make

1994
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:38,639
Speaker 24: a play when the game is not the best and

1995
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 24: and because of his ability, because of his vision of

1996
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 24: the game. It's been a pleasure to to have the

1997
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Speaker 24: chance to watch him live with some broadcast in the game.

1998
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 24: Obviously here important the same, but it's that kind of player,

1999
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 24: so it's very enjoyable. I think he motivates in a

2000
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 24: different way when hin Miami comes and face Cincinnati. So

2001
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:07,839
Speaker 24: I'm really excited to see him in this stage, uh

2002
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 24: in in the semi conference, semi final of the conference.

2003
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Speaker 24: So I think it's you know, it's been a pleasure.

2004
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Speaker 24: I I love to have those kind of players in

2005
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Speaker 24: MLS and uh and it's been it's been so fun

2006
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 24: and watch him play.

2007
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Speaker 2: In a normal year of Vander might be m v P,

2008
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 2: but there's a guy named Messi that that claims that honor.

2009
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 2: If you're pat Noon and it's about more than just him.

2010
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 2: When Miami comes to town, you've got a long list

2011
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 2: of things that you have to make sure don't happen

2012
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 2: in this match on Sunday. What's on that list but

2013
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,840
Speaker 2: don't happen in for Cincinnati? For yeah, what what can't

2014
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Speaker 2: you let Miami do.

2015
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Speaker 6: Well?

2016
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Speaker 24: As you say, messy, You know, it's it's difficult to

2017
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 24: prepare something against messy, right. I think Cincinnati gotta be

2018
01:41:56,160 --> 01:42:00,040
Speaker 24: focused on on the doing their job, on being.

2019
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Speaker 6: A affected right.

2020
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Speaker 24: I think has great strikers and plus Evander as you

2021
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 24: say for me is you know, Mbi pee level. But

2022
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 24: it's what you can't allow h against miamis having those

2023
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:19,520
Speaker 24: moments where you allow thee, the full, the whole team

2024
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 24: to be up in the field and comfortable with the ball.

2025
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Speaker 16: Right.

2026
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 6: Sometimes you always get deeper in the field.

2027
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Speaker 24: And obviously Miami because of the way they possess the ball,

2028
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 24: they take advantage, but of the possession and and the

2029
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 24: position on the field. But if they're getting there, Cincinnati

2030
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:39,680
Speaker 24: cannot allow Miami to be comfortable with the ball, you

2031
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 24: know what I mean? Like against Nashville. Uh, as soon

2032
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 24: as Miami gets a good position in the field, higher

2033
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 24: in the field, uh, they get comfortable. And and that's

2034
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 24: an issue that's a big issue. Uh if if Cincinnati,

2035
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:56,719
Speaker 24: if that ever happens in the first in the game,

2036
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 24: that is one game elimination, and Miami gets higher on

2037
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 24: the field, you can allow them to be comfortable because

2038
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 24: you already gets in the vall and you know from

2039
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:09,679
Speaker 24: everywhere he can assist, he can assist someone, and same

2040
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 24: same for Messy and same same for Busquetes. So I

2041
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:15,560
Speaker 24: think that's something that gotta be on the list of

2042
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 24: Cincinnatio and not doing stuff.

2043
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 2: It's it's gonna be an unbelievable atmosphere. You've got a

2044
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 2: ton of star power, lots on the line. Sunday at

2045
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 2: five o'clock, Apple TV MLS Season pasted, Diego and Honor

2046
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:30,719
Speaker 2: to talk to you man, Thanks so much, Thank you bye.

2047
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 2: That is the twenty seventeen MLS MVP. MLS Cup MVP

2048
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 2: from twenty fifteen. Now a match analyst for Apple TV.

2049
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 2: Diego Valeri nineteen away from six o'clock. If you missed it,

2050
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow full go at practice today. Our guys, Skinny

2051
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 2: didn't necessarily think that means he's gonna play. I think

2052
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 2: you should play, you know, I'm I'm right now of

2053
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 2: the point they're mathematically still alive. Give me something interesting

2054
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 2: that's not Geno Stone trying to tackle people the game

2055
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 2: at one o'clock, say on ESPN fifteen thirty, don't forget

2056
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 2: our pregame show begins at nine am from the Holy Grail.

2057
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 2: Bengals game plan coming up in just about twenty minutes

2058
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:11,759
Speaker 2: West Miller. My conversation with him.

2059
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 9: Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

2060
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 2: Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center.

2061
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Speaker 10: Are you one of the thirty eight million Americans impacted

2062
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Speaker 10: dot com. On Martin Luther King Drive, there's an accident

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Speaker 10: over at Clifton Avenue in westbound State Route one twenty nine.

2066
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Speaker 10: Another accident after Hampshire Drive westbound on two seventy five.

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Speaker 10: Traffic is running slow between seventy five and Winton Road.

2068
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Speaker 10: I'm at eazelic with traffic.

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Speaker 2: This report is sponsored BIZ. It is eleven away from six.

2070
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 2: Bengals game plan coming up at the top of the

2071
01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 2: hour or at six oh five. Like a normal person

2072
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Speaker 2: might say at Friday night, it's the Hoops Classic. In

2073
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Speaker 2: partnership with Caro soors at the Heritage Bank Center. Tickets

2074
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Speaker 2: are on sale right now at ticketmaster dot com. Wes Miller,

2075
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Speaker 2: head coach of the Barricats, your team has played four

2076
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Speaker 2: different types of games. What have you learned about your

2077
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 2: team during them?

2078
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Speaker 5: Worth?

2079
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 17: Learning a lot on the fly here, And you're not

2080
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:22,679
Speaker 17: wrong in a lot of ways.

2081
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 22: And again this isn't a complaining things.

2082
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:31,799
Speaker 17: It's when we now have a true professional model, except

2083
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 17: it's a.

2084
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 22: Free agency every year.

2085
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 17: And so when we have all these and I'd say

2086
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:40,599
Speaker 17: eighty eighty percent of the teams are structured this way

2087
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 17: now in college basketball, certainly in the power for and

2088
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:46,680
Speaker 17: when you have this year, you know you're gonna need

2089
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 17: games against other opponents to kind of, you know, find

2090
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 17: your way and learn your team.

2091
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 22: And it's the.

2092
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 17: Coaches, certainly, it's also the players finding their way and

2093
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:56,719
Speaker 17: learning new systems and learning each other.

2094
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 22: That's why I've been beating the drum for a preseason model.

2095
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 22: Let's play four or.

2096
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,799
Speaker 17: Five games, and maybe it doesn't look like it looks

2097
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 17: not just for us, for everybody to this extent.

2098
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:12,719
Speaker 22: Early in November, all that said, MO, like, yeah, we're learning.

2099
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 17: I think there's been some stretches that I'm proud of

2100
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 17: right like, you can see some sustained success and some

2101
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 17: stretches and games in the aspects of the games that

2102
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 17: we value, whether it's some things in our defense, whether

2103
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 17: it's some things in our transition game, whether it's some

2104
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:33,240
Speaker 17: offensive execution. And then there's some stretches where, quite frankly,

2105
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 17: that stuff's not there. We're working through that so we

2106
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 17: can get more consistent. As we get more consistent, we're

2107
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 17: going to become a better and better basketball team as

2108
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 17: long as the work ethic and mindset within our locker

2109
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 17: room stays the same.

2110
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 22: And it's to this point, it's been good.

2111
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Speaker 3: I asked you about this on Sunday before the game.

2112
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 3: Dada A Thomas, a guy that you can lean on.

2113
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 3: You've got all these new guys you're trying to figure

2114
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 3: out who can do what. I think people forget Number one,

2115
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 3: how good data was, especially down the stretch last year.

2116
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 18: How awesome is it to have a guy like that.

2117
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 3: That you can lean on. You look at a game

2118
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 3: like Friday. This is a high end college basketball game.

2119
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 3: You want this to be a game in the second half.

2120
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 3: How nice is it to be able to lead on

2121
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 3: a guy like him? On both ends of the floor.

2122
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 17: Yeah, and I appreciate you recognizing how well he played

2123
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 17: at the end of last year, because you know, people

2124
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 17: tend to forget that he missed, you know, five six

2125
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 17: weeks to start the year last year, not just preseason,

2126
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 17: he missed games, and he was coming off of a

2127
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 17: foot injury. He had a setback, had to get shut

2128
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 17: down completely. It took him a while, not just to

2129
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 17: find his rhythm, but defined his confidence in his way

2130
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 17: within our team. I thought he finished the year like

2131
01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:42,800
Speaker 17: the data that we've always known, and then I thought

2132
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 17: it went into the offseason where he had a terrific offseason.

2133
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:50,160
Speaker 17: He's had a great preseason. He's confident, he's matured, He's

2134
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 17: really evolved Mow into a leader in a lot of

2135
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 17: ways in our program. And he gets what putting that

2136
01:47:57,400 --> 01:48:00,799
Speaker 17: jersey on is all about, Like he understands hands it

2137
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 17: and then that matters for the rest of our guys.

2138
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:06,800
Speaker 17: So I'm excited about his start, not surprised, And I

2139
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 17: think I don't think it's a fleeting thing. I think

2140
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 17: it's something that he's going to be able to sustain

2141
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 17: throughout the year.

2142
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Speaker 3: I mentioned this to you in the post game on Sunday,

2143
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 3: Kishan Tillery gave you a spark, and it's one game,

2144
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 3: It's November. He has a lot of growing to do.

2145
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 3: But it felt to me like, maybe you could see

2146
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 3: the light bulb come on just a little bit. Would

2147
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 3: that be a fair way of putting it.

2148
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 17: I think if I was in your shoes, it's a

2149
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 17: fair way to put it, because you hadn't got to

2150
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 17: see him all through the summer and the fall. But

2151
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 17: if you take the games that he's played, I understand

2152
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 17: that comment. I think from my perspective, I've seen the

2153
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 17: light bulb come home all the time, and I see

2154
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 17: it go off sometimes like any freshman point guard, right,

2155
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 17: And I think all of those things, whether they're really

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Speaker 17: good moments, and he had some really good moments when.

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Speaker 22: We had an exhibition.

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Speaker 17: He gets a Michigan he thought he had some great

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Speaker 17: moments the other night, or some of these negative moments

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Speaker 17: that could be frustrating for a fan, a teammate or

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Speaker 17: the head coach, right, those are actually really good for

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Speaker 17: his growth. We need we need him to be ready

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Speaker 17: to play in Big twelve games. He's capable of being

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Speaker 17: an impact player as a freshman.

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Speaker 22: In the Big twelve. I believe he will be.

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Speaker 17: So these ups and downs, even though they may be

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Speaker 17: frustrating times for all of us and him included, they're

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Speaker 17: very important.

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Speaker 22: All that said, he's a really good player.

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Speaker 17: He fits here, he fits Cincinnati, and he's going to

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Speaker 17: have an important role this year.

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Speaker 3: Louisvill's a little bit different than the last time you

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Speaker 3: played him, you know, and I watch him against Kentucky,

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Speaker 3: they scored ninety six. That's their lowest point total this season.

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Speaker 3: Michale Brown's a load. We saw Ryan Conwell up close

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Speaker 3: last year. Where do you even start with that team?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, somebody said that to me, he said, you know,

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Speaker 17: Louisville scored one hundred and three out of the last

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Speaker 17: four games they played.

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Speaker 22: I said, yeah, and the one time they didn't, they

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Speaker 22: scored ninety six.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 17: No, it's uh, there's a reason why people are picking

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Speaker 17: them to win the National championship.

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Speaker 22: And people were saying that before they even played the game.

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Speaker 17: And so you know, when you're playing a team that

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Speaker 17: has that type of expectation, there's reasons for it. They're

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Speaker 17: they're terrifically dynamic offensively. Uh, you know, whether it's in

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Speaker 17: their transition game, whether it's in their half court execution. Uh,

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Speaker 17: it seems like they have four guys that would be

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Speaker 17: the primary and some of them already have been the

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Speaker 17: number one offensive weapon on any team they play on

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Speaker 17: in college.

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Speaker 22: But there's four of them that are all guards on

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Speaker 22: their team.

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Speaker 17: And you know, I say that with to compliment the

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Speaker 17: job they've done putting that group together. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 17: that's what happens when you play against teams that you know,

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Speaker 17: or the six ranked team in the country, they present challenges.

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Speaker 17: But what a great opportunity for us. I like our

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Speaker 17: guys too. I like some of the things we can

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Speaker 17: do too, and I'm excited for the opportunity for the

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Speaker 17: ball to go up against you know, one of the

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Speaker 17: best teams in college basketball right now.

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Speaker 3: All right, As a longtime UC fan, this is the

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Speaker 3: game that I wish we had every single year.

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Speaker 2: So take me how a game like this comes together.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're just looking.

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Speaker 17: For really quality games in our non conference that number

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Speaker 17: one prepares for the Big twelve. Number two give us

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Speaker 17: the right opportunity to build a resume for the selection day,

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Speaker 17: and then you know three are exciting.

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Speaker 22: And draw interest.

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Speaker 17: And you know, this game came about because it was

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Speaker 17: willingness on both sides, which was the first step, and

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Speaker 17: then there was a way to make it happen. And

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Speaker 17: so again, I love games like this for all those reasons.

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Speaker 17: I certainly love that our fans get to see this

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Speaker 17: rivalry again, and I'm excited to experience it for the

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Speaker 17: first time since I've been at Cincinnati. But I am

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Speaker 17: excited that Louisville and Cincinnati are playing basketball again.

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Speaker 3: All Right, one more, Pat Kelsey. You talked about him,

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Speaker 3: a guy that you known for a very long time,

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Speaker 3: a guy you've coached against. He's obviously coming home. Walked

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Speaker 3: me through your relationship with Pat Kelsey and what you

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Speaker 3: like about watching his teams play.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, Patt and I've known each other since I was

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Speaker 17: a a high school high school player, and they were

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Speaker 17: recruiting me a little bit at Wake Forest when he

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Speaker 17: was a young assistant there for Skip Prosser. And you know,

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Speaker 17: I know this is like sacrilegious to say anything good

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Speaker 17: about Xavier when you're the Cincinnati coach, but Skip Prosser,

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Speaker 17: who is Pat's mentor, was always so unbelievably kind to me.

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Speaker 17: And when I came to Cincinnati, and you know, like

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Speaker 17: that That's the one thing I've always said is don't

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Speaker 17: I don't care about I care a lot about the

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Speaker 17: Crosstown shootout, but you can't ever say a bad word

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Speaker 17: to me about Skip Prosser.

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Speaker 22: So because of Skip.

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Speaker 17: That's how Pat and I got to know each other

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Speaker 17: back when I was a youngster. We've been in this

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01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:51,600
Speaker 17: profession for a long time. We've had a friendship for

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01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 17: a very long time. Our families know each other. I mean,

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Speaker 17: you know, his family here in Cincinnati has been very

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Speaker 17: kind and warm to me. I think the world of them.

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Speaker 17: You know, he knows my family. So there's a ton

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Speaker 17: of history there. Now, when the ball goes up, I

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Speaker 17: don't think any of that crap's gonna matter on either end.

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Speaker 17: But if people want to know yet, I think a

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Speaker 17: lot of pack. He'll see his family and we've known

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Speaker 17: each other for gosh well over twenty years.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Wes Miller. I take that

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Speaker 2: interview at UC today. I took my tape recorder down

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Speaker 2: and talked to Wes. Tickets are available now ticketmaster dot

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Speaker 2: com for Friday Night U se versus Louisville at the

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Speaker 2: Heritage Bank Center. Early tip off so six point thirty

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Speaker 2: still kind of make a Friday night out of it,

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Speaker 2: especially if the good guys win. I am off tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Chad Brenda will fill in on this show from three

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Speaker 2: to six. Bengals PEP Rally bumps me out of the

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Speaker 2: way Friday afternoon, so we have a Tony and Molf

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Speaker 2: football show Monday. We got to go. Bengals game Plan

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Speaker 2: is next a good show on after this one. Thanks

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Speaker 2: to Tarren Bland for producing. Thanks to you for listening.

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Speaker 2: Have a great night. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports Station.

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