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Speaker 1: Let's talk hockey now with Tommy Radio. Tom what do

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Speaker 1: you think will shill Offs leak in the first shot tonight?

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Speaker 1: I feel more comfortable that not happening with him than

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Speaker 1: if Jari were starting.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think, just comedically and perversely, I wish

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Speaker 2: it would happen now because it would just be such

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Speaker 2: a laugh for everybody to see another goaltender come in

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Speaker 2: and do it.

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Speaker 1: No, it would not be funny in the least. It

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Speaker 1: would be funny if it was Jarry not Shilloffs.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: And are you sure?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 3: I want to bet.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't want to bet on it, but I'm

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Speaker 2: pretty sure that he's not gonna let in that first

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Speaker 2: go I like the decision, though, Mark, I do too.

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Speaker 1: I think with the new coach and a lot of

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Speaker 1: young kids, you need to get as much change jammed

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Speaker 1: in early as possible. I think you need to eliminate

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Speaker 1: staleness as quickly as possible. And I think starting Shilloffs

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Speaker 1: and instead of Jari in the first game does all

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Speaker 1: of that. And I'm curious to see who starts in

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Speaker 1: the second game. Thursday's home opener against the new York Islanders,

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Speaker 1: because if Shilloffs plays well tonight and wins, I would

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Speaker 1: imagine he'll be right back in the barrel and that

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Speaker 1: would really send a message.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but how could he not be Even if he

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Speaker 2: loses a game tonight where it's like three to two, right,

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Speaker 2: and he impresses and doesn't let in the first shot

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Speaker 2: and plays well, I don't know why you wouldn't just

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Speaker 2: pull the trigger on him again against the Islanders, and

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Speaker 2: then if he plays well again, you could do him

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Speaker 2: Saturday against the Rangers. We're assuming a lot, you know,

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Speaker 2: I know, but it's that optimism of a new season, right,

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Speaker 2: We're assuming.

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Speaker 3: A lot with him playing behind that defense.

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Speaker 1: I'm more worried about the defensive court tonight than am

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Speaker 1: how Shilloffs plays well. That's then again, he's done pretty

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Speaker 1: good playing behind Latvia and I can't name Can I

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Speaker 1: name one Latvian defenseman?

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Speaker 3: I don't think I can't.

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Speaker 2: Well, you've brought up the point before during training camp

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Speaker 2: that if this blue line was better than what it is,

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Speaker 2: and what it is is maybe the worst in the league,

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Speaker 2: Mershoff would be up here as the starting goalie, like

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Speaker 2: he's clearly the best option. It would just be a

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Speaker 2: shooting gallery for the young man, and you don't want

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Speaker 2: to ruin that confidence right now. So I feel you

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Speaker 2: like Si Lovs could play well for a goalie but

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Speaker 2: still let in five goals because he faces like forty

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Speaker 1: The only Latvian defenseman I can find of any consequences

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Speaker 1: Sandis Ozolinch who won a Stanley Cup with Colorado back when,

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Speaker 1: but he's long since retired. What a name Uvis Belinskis

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Speaker 1: was on Florida. I don't know who that is, but

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Speaker 1: he won a Stanley cupp.

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Speaker 2: So uh so SHEI Lov's isn't quite the national hero

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Speaker 2: or is he? Because he got him that bronze medal,

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Speaker 1: He is the g is numero uno headlan show in

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Speaker 2: I would think, well, I fel good about that Arnett.

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Speaker 2: Then can you name any Latvian forward? No, so we

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Speaker 2: have the number one Latvian that's good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had Peter skoodring goal. He was a Latvian

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Speaker 1: two that got us Bupkus. But let's hope that, let's

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Speaker 1: hope that that Shulos does better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that defensive court might be awful.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure the veterans, not just up up front

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Speaker 1: especially I'm not sure they'll buy in the structure, but

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Speaker 1: especially on defense. With Eric Carlson, I'm not even sure

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Speaker 2: Now. There's this notion out there on Carlson that since

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Speaker 2: it's an Olympic year and he really wants to make

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Speaker 2: Team Sweden, He's gonna kind of, you know, play buttoned

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Speaker 2: just don't buy that at all. I think Carlson's just

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Speaker 2: gonna go out there and be Carlson like he always is,

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Speaker 2: and he'll probably just make Team Sweden anyway.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Kenny Blueger was laughing and used to play here.

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Speaker 1: Mss Larkins the goalie for for for Columbus. Zemgis Gergenson's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still with Is he still with Buffalo?

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Speaker 1: Uh? No, it looks like he's with Tampa. I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. All the lat Means have cool names.

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Speaker 2: Are they the power in the Eastern European Block now

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Speaker 2: that Russia's band.

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Speaker 3: Maybe by default?

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Speaker 1: No? Right, I mean check and Slovak as still part

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Speaker 1: But yeah, what do you think of Carlson with the

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Speaker 1: new structure? You didn't go buy in?

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Speaker 2: No, that's what I'm just saying, Like and the people

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Speaker 2: that are saying, oh, it's an Olympic year, so he

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Speaker 2: He'll be Carlson. He'll make team sweet and regardless, because

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Speaker 2: why wouldn't they take Eric Carlson. You're gonna see the

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Speaker 2: same kind of hand grenade hockey that Eric Carlson has

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Speaker 2: been playing in his two years in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Zemngis is with Tampa.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I can't keep track of where these lat Fians go

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Speaker 3: It's tough to do radio. Now.

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Speaker 1: I do like I said earlier, I love the sid line,

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Speaker 1: I love the power play.

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Speaker 2: After that, I very quickly fall out of love with

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Speaker 2: this roster. Yeah, exactly. And looking at the wings that

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Speaker 2: Gino's playing with, like he's kind of had a trend

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Speaker 2: elevating it because he was Gino, but now he's not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's too bad for him because Daddy got

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Speaker 1: to eat first. You got to give Shid what you got,

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Speaker 1: and with Russ Dott you got to pop Rikeul up there.

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Speaker 1: Eventually Gino will get Riquel, he will, and eventually Gino

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Speaker 1: So it's not like he'll be out there. Sure it's

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Speaker 1: He's got there with total crap.

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Speaker 2: Right now, I'm more intrigued with the third line tonight

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Speaker 2: and seeing this eighteen year old center a line at MSG.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's Goosebump city right there. I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just although I don't know, between him and

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Speaker 1: something more RESTful to do. Uh. I just hope Brunick

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Speaker 1: I bet he stays here. I certainly hope he plays well.

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Speaker 1: But if if any of the above don't come to pass,

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Speaker 1: you got to send him back after nine games.

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Speaker 2: Like if he's averaging six minutes a game, seven minutes

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Speaker 2: a game, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Think that's gonna happen. But yeah, let's play what if.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think News would do that. Sally would. No.

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Speaker 2: I think Sally's gonna play his third pair a lot more.

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Speaker 3: No, muse, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: News will play his third pair a lot more than

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Speaker 2: Salli did, especially because brune on it. I really hope

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Speaker 2: Runix stays for the season and just kind of have

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Speaker 2: a trial by fire year because as we talk about

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Speaker 2: with Maryshow, that can kind of ruin a goalie. It's

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Speaker 2: not the same with a defender, right, Like it's tough

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Speaker 2: to make that leap to the NHL. But I don't

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Speaker 2: think you ruin his confidence by making some mistakes.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Carlson and Lutang get the red ass

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Speaker 1: if if Brunick takes away from their minutes, not get

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Speaker 1: more minutes than them because he won't, but takes away

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Speaker 2: Is there any potential for that to happen on the

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Speaker 2: power play?

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Speaker 3: No, Brunick ain't gonna play that. Then I don't think

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Speaker 3: that was should the power.

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Speaker 1: Play was six in the league last year. That's a

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Speaker 1: good power play with both e K and Latang on there.

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Speaker 2: Carlson would get mad if that happened.

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Speaker 3: The power it's just not gonna happen. It's just not gonna.

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Speaker 1: Like like, uh, I don't think the Tang will because

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Speaker 1: Lutang didn't get the red ass when Carlson got here.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Latang for all, just a bit of ego that pops

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Speaker 3: Is a real team guy, really he is.

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Speaker 2: You know, I trust Tanger to help Brunick along, just

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Speaker 2: like you trusted to help Kendle and to help koiven

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Speaker 1: There was a nice scenario that I think Yoe wrote

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Speaker 3: Talking to each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get that.

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Speaker 3: That's really cool. That's a great scene.

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Speaker 2: I don't see the veterans beg grudging these young players

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Speaker 2: at all, are feeling threatened by them at all.

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Speaker 3: They won the top of the line veterans.

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Speaker 2: Loan, I'm wondering about the other one.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, but but you know they're in the dressing

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Speaker 2: I wonder, I guess, but still you can't really worry

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Speaker 2: about Kevin Hayes too much and his feelings.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: The weird thing about this season is a fan.

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Speaker 1: Like I said a little bit ago, you know, on

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Speaker 1: the night you wanted to win your a fan, but

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Speaker 1: they got to get a top five pick.

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Speaker 3: They got to finish loan enough to get balls in

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Speaker 3: that lotter.

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Speaker 1: Because I've seen McKenna play for Penn State and melike,

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Speaker 1: that's a guy I want some shot of.

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Speaker 2: Getting, no doubt, and even if you miss, but you

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Speaker 2: get the fourth pick, right or you get the third pick,

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Speaker 2: you're still getting someone that's in your system as your

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Speaker 2: top process.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Let's let's play the what if game.

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Speaker 1: Let's romanticize a bit.

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Speaker 3: Tom. If they win that order and get McKenna and

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Speaker 3: Sid's still here, and you.

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Speaker 1: Have fifty million of cap space to spend, having guys

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Speaker 1: wanting to come in to play with McKenna and Sid,

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Speaker 1: you can be a team that can win a series

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Speaker 1: right away right away. That's what McKenna would do, and

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Speaker 2: And then Mushoff obviously comes up and is part of

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Speaker 2: that equation too. He hoped that McKenna moves into Sid's

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Speaker 2: a little time.

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Speaker 3: I would just don't want to live with Sid.

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Speaker 2: I would not, way more quirky than.

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Speaker 3: With some quirky, obsessive son of a gun. I just

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Speaker 3: I just would not.

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Speaker 1: And I think that having watched McKenna play, he made

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Speaker 1: the right move ditching major junior for college hockey because

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Speaker 1: it's a challenge junior A would not have been.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I don't want Bruni to go back.

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Speaker 2: You gotta win tomorrow, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not gonna lose them all, although we sure

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Speaker 3: Puck drops at eight here on the X.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about the Penguins, I'm excited about the new guys.

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Speaker 3: I'm always excited to see Sid play. You got JT.

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Speaker 3: It's my time of year.

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Speaker 2: of you're gonna play Flacco on Thursday night in Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: And you know, because they're young and they know they

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Speaker 1: Although I gotta say, don't you agree with me that

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Speaker 2: That's the biggest problem. It feels really Service Academy, right,

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Speaker 2: And isn't the simple fact they just can't play mottern

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Speaker 2: football because they don't have the skill position players required

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Speaker 2: to do it. DK Metcalf is the only one really

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Speaker 2: that fits that mold. Like there's no other player on

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Speaker 2: that offense that strikes fear into another team. No one

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Speaker 2: fears Jalen Warner kind of the game well out of

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Speaker 2: the backfield. No one fears Calvin Austin.

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Speaker 1: They don't fear Rodgers anymore either. I mean, they respect

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Speaker 1: him because of his guyle. But I talked yesterday about

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Speaker 1: how you know Rogers here Brady and Tampa Manning in Denver,

448
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Speaker 1: they ate great quarterbacks no more. They're probably at best. Well,

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Speaker 1: Manning in Denver was rotten. He won just because he

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Speaker 1: knew how to win, and they had a great team

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Speaker 1: assembled around him. But but you know, quarterbacks that old,

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Speaker 1: the only thing they have going for him is their

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Speaker 1: experience and their gle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Rogers's arm is actually better than most quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I think Rogers's arm is better than Manning's was then,

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Speaker 1: and Brady's.

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Speaker 2: Was, there's no question about that, and Breeze too when

458
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Speaker 2: he was in his forties. Like, Rogers's arm has aged

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Speaker 2: the mest great docts.

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Speaker 1: His arm might not be in the top half of

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Speaker 1: arms in the league right now among the starters, but

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Speaker 1: it's but it's in the middle.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's just some Bazukahs at the top now

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Speaker 2: with like Josh Allens is of the world, but Rogers

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Speaker 2: still has some talent there. I think there's a little

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Speaker 2: bit of fear for Rogers. It's his connection with DK.

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Speaker 2: That team's here, but like there's just nothing else, Like

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Speaker 2: there's nothing else you can go to. There's no game

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Speaker 2: where Calvin Austin's when he gets help.

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Speaker 1: That Cod just thinks of this seven offensive line and stuff.

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Speaker 1: I think on one hand, he's grateful that it's going

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Speaker 1: to protect him, but I but I also think I

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Speaker 1: also think he knows it limits his options. Then again,

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Speaker 1: with the lack of offensive talent in that huddle, his

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Speaker 1: options are limited in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Kind of where I'm going, Like, although I.

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Speaker 1: Don't get using John Whu and Fiar moose so little

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Speaker 1: and to so little effect.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's really poorly done by them, And going out

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Speaker 2: and getting all those tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Why signing far move through that long term deal and

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Speaker 1: trading giving John Hu a big deal. It's just stupid.

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Speaker 1: If you thought you would go to this, then it

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Speaker 1: would be necessary. You have to have some effing foresight

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Speaker 1: when you put a roster and plan together. And this

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Speaker 1: Steelers don't, like I said, they never ever think past

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Speaker 1: the next game.

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Speaker 2: If they are pulling the plug on you know, Johnny

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Speaker 2: and Pat Fairemouth and utilizing those tight ends, why are

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Speaker 2: they doing that because they've never even tried it, Like

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Speaker 2: Johnny Smith's averaging like point six yards per reception. They're

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Speaker 2: just telling them to like turn and face the quarterback

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Speaker 2: once the ball snapped and catch it and try to

494
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Speaker 2: take it up field like they're not using them over

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Speaker 2: the middle of the field, they're not using them in

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Speaker 2: creative ways. How are you ever gonna know if it'll work?

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Speaker 1: But yet the Citizens are lapping it up because they're

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Speaker 1: three and one.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I think you know it's that nostalgia you

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Speaker 2: get into with the big, big boy Steeler football, right,

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Speaker 2: run it up the gun.

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Speaker 1: They're still not that physical, Honestly, they're not blowing people

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Speaker 1: off the ball.

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Speaker 3: They're just getting in the way.

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Speaker 2: More Minnesota was the closest they've come to blowing team Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: They got a good push then, no question.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that carries over to the Browns

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Speaker 2: defensive front, though it's a better defensive front.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to see what happens now moving forward

510
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Speaker 1: when more and more opponents have seen the seven offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman looking and plan for it.

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Speaker 2: Right, because remember they just dink and dunked their way

513
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Speaker 2: to that eleven and zero record when Ben came back

514
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Speaker 2: the COVID year and then teams figured it out and

515
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Speaker 2: it was over for the Steelers. They knew how to

516
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Speaker 2: play on That's the same thing that's gonna happen here.

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Speaker 1: Uh, if you were Cleveland with the Steelers using all

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Speaker 1: them linemen, how would you deploy.

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Speaker 2: Garrett Probably on the weak side, right well.

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Speaker 1: But if they use Spencer Anderson, there really is no

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Speaker 1: weak side. If Anderson and Washington are out there.

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Speaker 2: And you're saying you'd split them, have Anderson on one

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Speaker 2: side in Washington on the other instead of like stacking

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Speaker 2: them together, what are they doing more of I think

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Speaker 2: they stacked them together against the Vikings to FABO would

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Speaker 2: know for sure.

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Speaker 3: But then the play goes the other way.

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Speaker 1: No, not for Garrett, saying if Garrett, it goes away

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Speaker 1: from Garrett.

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Speaker 2: I know, but I think he might have the speed

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Speaker 2: to be able to, you know what I mean, shoot

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Speaker 2: down the line.

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Speaker 1: Actually he did exactly that on a big play against Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Came all the way around. But here's what I'd do.

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Speaker 1: I'd line Garrett up more in the middle. O Zach Frasier,

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Speaker 1: because no matter what anybody says, I am told by

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Speaker 1: those who know but won't say it out loud that

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Speaker 1: he's not having a great year, that he's only been okay.

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Speaker 2: I would just have Miles Garrett roaming around like he's

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Speaker 2: the predator monster, you know what I mean, just like

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Speaker 2: kind of like creeping back and forth like he's stalking

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Speaker 2: his prey and then he just decides where he wants

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Speaker 2: to run.

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Speaker 3: Pick defensive tackle, the first round pick for Michigan.

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Speaker 2: The first round pick for Michigan that they have. His

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Speaker 2: name's escaping. We were Mason Graham, Mason Gravey. You know

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Speaker 2: what I would do?

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Speaker 1: I did Mason Graham like lift him up like a press,

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Speaker 1: slim and swing from hield. Yeah, that would be That

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Speaker 1: would be fun to watch with seven offensive lineman. You

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Speaker 1: might want to try something, all right, Uh, don't forget

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Speaker 1: The Xblem back on the pregame Show, brought to us

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Speaker 3: I got told yesterday after the show by a.

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Speaker 1: Decent source at the New York Rangers want to trade

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Speaker 1: for Ricard Raquel. I bet they do. It won't happen

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Speaker 1: before tonight's game, but I bet they do. I bet

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams do, and Kyle Dubis isn't done

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Speaker 1: making moves for sure, but a lot depends on how

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Speaker 1: the peng would start, and mostly their record of Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: I think if they're out of the playoff picture of Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: they will trade Raquel, maybe trade Rust. I think they're

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Speaker 1: still trying to trade Carlson. I think Dubas. I think

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Speaker 1: that's rescrewing up. I think that they wouldn't miss a

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Speaker 1: beat without Carlson. I think he's the likeliest to not

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Speaker 1: want to adapt to the way MWS wants to play,

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Speaker 1: but Dubas is holding not for too much in trade,

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Speaker 1: too much in return, and I just think it would

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Speaker 1: be a cleaner fit for the whole team, like with

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Speaker 1: Bruni's minutes, if you didn't have Carlson here, and I

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Speaker 1: had thought Detroit was interested and maybe still are, but

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Speaker 1: Carlson is still here. Tom, how long do you think

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Speaker 1: Dubas gives the Penguins to not be a contender before

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Speaker 1: he starts, you know, making moves that that might discourage Sid.

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Speaker 2: I think Thanksgiving is a good place to start, and

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Speaker 2: Pierre always says that, right, like, that's like the point

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Speaker 2: of delineation for teams.

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Speaker 1: Very rarely do teams not in a playoff spot at Thanksgiving. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get back and make the postseason. And that sounds ridiculous,

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Speaker 1: except it's true. It's so early, but that's true.

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Speaker 2: So the data says, So if they're healthily out of

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Speaker 2: it by then, you gotta start making moves. You got

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Speaker 2: to start trading Raquel's and Carlson's. The Carlson thing, you

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Speaker 2: think it's because he's trying to get more than he's

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Speaker 2: ever gonna get for Eric Carlson and he's not coming

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Speaker 2: to terms with I'm just never gonna get this King's ransom.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe it's not that extreme, but you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, is there a little bit to it where

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Speaker 2: Dubis is thinking, you know, this was my really first

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Speaker 2: big swing here as Penguins GM, and I don't want

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Speaker 2: to punt on it completely yet, Like I kind of

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Speaker 2: want to see if it turns the corner a little bit,

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Speaker 2: because it was a huge move when he came in

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Speaker 2: here and it has fallen so flat.

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Speaker 1: I have never been more disappointed with the Penguins acquisition

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Speaker 1: than I am. Eric Carlon right, I've never seen a

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Speaker 1: guy go against the grain of what you needed him

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Speaker 1: to be more than Eric Carlson. His offense kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, it's still good, but it petered out from

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Speaker 1: I mean, one hundred points in San Jose and his

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Speaker 1: defense and his lack of concern for score and situation

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Speaker 1: the game. I always go back to his couple years

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Speaker 1: ago when they were fighting for a playoff spot, which

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Speaker 1: they just missed by two or three points.

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Speaker 3: This was two years ago.

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Speaker 1: We led Detroit by two in the third, he committed

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Speaker 1: two absurd pinches and Detroit scored twice and we in

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh still won in overtime, but Detroit coulda lose a

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Speaker 1: point that could help him, and he just, you know,

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Speaker 1: I refuse to believe Sully fell on the sword. He

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Speaker 1: like kind of said that Carlson didn't do anything that

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Speaker 1: he did.

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Speaker 3: Not want, but he was lying.

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Speaker 1: No coach wants a defenseman to pinch with with with

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Speaker 1: four minutes left in a close game that you lead nobody.

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Speaker 2: And if I remember correctly, he was the one who

658
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: scored the goal in the overtime in that game to

659
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: win it for the Penguin.

660
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I'm liking the press, like, oh

661
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: f exactly was that a Detroit?

662
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: I forget? I think it was at Detroit. It's right,

663
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: I remember watching the game somewhere, but like, my.

664
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: God, it had to be him, right, And that's just

665
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: the perfect Eric Carlson experience, and his time as a Penguin.

666
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: Is just sometimes sometimes he shows flashes of that brilliance.

667
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: So like like in that in that overtime win against Columbus.

668
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: Uh when when the when Sid scored late to make

669
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: it for four?

670
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: Okay, is it Coombus?

671
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: Remembering now?

672
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: Whoever it was it was the last exhibition game we

673
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: played Commas for FI right Buffalo, Right, So Sid tied

674
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: it late and everybody hates overtime in the preseason, but

675
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: they won nine sixes because Carlson came down the left side,

676
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: his off side and made this great feathered past to

677
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: Sid as a late trailer wide, which is such a

678
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: tough pass to make, and he put it right on

679
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: his tape bang game over, and that's there. Cost I

680
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: thought would see moro of but I had somebody who

681
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: covered him an autoi say when when Pittsburgh got him.

682
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: Now you get to see him every day, and let's

683
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: see what you think.

684
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: I mean, there's probably what ten to twelve games a

685
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: season that he's been good for to be like, wow,

686
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: there's the Norris Trophy winner. That guy kind of dominated

687
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: all of this game. He played twenty five minutes and

688
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: he was the best player on the ice for most

689
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: of them. That's just ten or twelve games, and then

690
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: the rest of it is just the human hand grenade hockey.

691
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just I mean, and like his lack of

692
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: concern about like he can just blow the game and

693
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: go talk to the media afterwards and like do like

694
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: a game show.

695
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 3: He just plays how he plays.

696
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy so cavalier about this is

697
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: who I am, this is what I do. And he

698
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: doesn't even get mad if you like, nobody's pushed. Like

699
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: I never heard a word about what I've written and

700
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: said about him, and he has to see some of

701
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: it because I've been really critical.

702
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: He just doesn't care.

703
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: Last year he basically skipped out on all of camp.

704
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: I mean, he was quote unquote hurt, but he was

705
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: playing in like charity golf events and stuff like that,

706
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: So I think he basically was like pulling the old

707
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: eye of my arm to get out of it. Do

708
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: you think he felt a little bit of pressure because

709
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: of a new coach to show up and do it

710
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: this year because he surprisingly did?

711
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: Oh good lord, what has this buffoon done?

712
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: Now? Maybe I don't know. I don't think so. I

713
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: think he was legit hurt something I do. I don't

714
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: think he's a I don't think he tanks. I don't

715
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: think he doesn't try.

716
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: I just think he plays how he wants all the time.

717
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: He did have the Vegas fleu though that one time

718
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: that they went out to Vegas. Remember anything they missed

719
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: the practice.

720
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he missed the practice because he was out playing.

721
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: No doubts, no doubt he had Vegas three in the morning.

722
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: Well, I know for sure because I was at the

723
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: black Tech table right down the same pit like I had.

724
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: Kyle asked me how I knew that, and I said

725
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: because I was. I was like, I don't have a curfew.

726
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: I was. I was in the same place.

727
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: I was the one who told him to split those tens.

728
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: No, he was playing craps. He just playing craps. Craps

729
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: are fun. I just never figured out how to play.

730
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm too intimidated by craps. But you're right, doesn't it

731
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: look like such a good time when you're throwing the

732
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: dice and everybody's around the table chair.

733
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: My my buddy, one of my ball hockey buddy's Chris Hauser,

734
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: who practically invented the sports guy from Leminster, mass Niagara Falls,

735
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: originally great player Kid, a great player too, was on

736
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: my team that won the World Championships for under twenty

737
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: back in oh six. Bobby Hawser and uh and Chris

738
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: loves to play craps and I was in. I was

739
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: with him in Vegas one time, and I never played

740
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: craps and I was hammered. So I just I just

741
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: bet on whatever he bet on, and like, I ended

742
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: up winning like six hundred dollars and had no idea

743
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: what happened, no doubt like when when when they cheered,

744
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: I cheered.

745
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: I just it was fun. It is fun.

746
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: There's no doubt. That's one of the better atmosphere games

747
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: right at a casino. Like, if you're not gambling, it's.

748
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: The best atmosphere game then, yes, like blackjack is I

749
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: love blackjack, but it's a grind people. Yeah, Roulette is

750
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: really random. Yeah they're all random, but you know what

751
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean.

752
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.

753
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: Roulette, I would say is probably second place there. I

754
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: like Roulette, just spelling out chips on a bunch.

755
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: My only Roulette experience of any of any consequence was

756
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: I was betting fifteen dollars a spin on three different numbers,

757
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: so so forty five bucks a spin. I I I

758
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: think I won playing I don't know why I did.

759
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: It was it Rivers too.

760
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: Was there with the friend of mine who was visiting,

761
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: and he liked to play Roulette, So I bet fifteen

762
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: bucks to spin. I hate that red and black stuff. Yeah, okay,

763
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: it's two nickel me. I hate the sections. I hate

764
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: parsing through the section up. So I was betting every spin,

765
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 1: straight numbers right, three, goalie numbers, Flurri twenty nine, Regget

766
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: thirty one, Barrasso thirty five, how about Barrasso thirty five?

767
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: And I hit Barrasso. So that's like what thirty six

768
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: to one times fifteen?

769
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: You do the math. That's pretty good money, big time. Yeah, Okay.

770
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: Then the next spin, I didn't know that when they

771
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: paid you, they left the winning bet on the old number.

772
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: I didn't remove it. I won again.

773
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: It hit again.

774
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: I hit Barrassos twice, and like those were the only

775
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: two times I won.

776
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: But by the time I left, I walked away with

777
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: like four hundred bucks.

778
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: It was the second hit. It was massive.

779
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: I was like, what happened? I didn't know you again,

780
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know they. I didn't know they left the

781
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: bet out there.

782
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: I love that strategy because that's the same strategy I

783
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: use when I play roulette. I go on sports numbers

784
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: like Larry Bird thirty three, Bus thirty six.

785
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: I've gotten in big arguments at roulette wheels twice, once

786
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: in Vegas, once at the rivers because I will see

787
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: people talking out loud like, well, Reds hit seven times

788
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: in a row, it has to come up black now,

789
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: and I will say to them because I.

790
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 3: Can't help myself.

791
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: You do know the wheel doesn't have a memory, right,

792
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: You do know that every spin is a separate occurrence

793
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: of fortune, that it has no bearing on what previously happened.

794
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: It's a wheel, not a person. It's a wheel.

795
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: And I will say it like that because I get

796
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: just I get so pissed.

797
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: Off at you'll lunch instead of just doing what I

798
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: should do and mining my own business.

799
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: Your percentage doesn't increase from what was it, like forty

800
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: nine percent since you got the two greens in there too,

801
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: Like you don't go up to like fifty.

802
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: In Vegas now.

803
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: You know, I always bitch about how Vegas blackjack is

804
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: six to five. Now now they're doing triple zero wheels.

805
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: I hate that. Yeah, there's always still a tempted to

806
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: throw on a little green though, just to cover there's.

807
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,479
Speaker 3: Some wheels downtown that do single zero.

808
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: See that's the one where I'll split it.

809
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: That's the place to gamble now is downtown.

810
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: When there's one just one single zero.

811
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 3: And where they pay three to two blackjack. Everywhere.

812
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: I always split the zeros if there's two zeros, little

813
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: insurance there. I know you said you don't like splitting,

814
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: but I think that's a good strategy because nothing's worse

815
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: than it coming up green and nobody hitting.

816
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot worse I've experienced. Yeah, a lot worse

817
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: all right up next to trifecta. And don't en at

818
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: three o'clock. You don't want to miss it. My semi

819
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: regular tribute to the American Dream Dust the Roads, because

820
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about the penguins. Daddy, the penguins

821
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: haven't had times one oh five nine X.

822
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 4: God, it's the Woody Show, weekly mornings at six.

823
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: If you're not the wiser, does it really matter?

824
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: On one oh five nine d X from the Dollar

825
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: Energy Fund Weather Center. This report is sponsored by Flynn's

826
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: Tire and Auto Service. We're gonna see rain on and

827
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: off throughout the day, high of sixty eight, just a

828
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: few clouds tonight, dropping down to an overnight low of

829
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: forty four. Ex.

830
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: You know, Tom, if there's one phrase I live by,

831
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: it's you can't judge the one by looking at the other,

832
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: and you can't judge book by looking at the cover.

833
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: More of that later on. What do you got for

834
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: the trifectam?

835
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: I got three fun Penguins factoids before the season starts tonight.

836
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 2: Number three.

837
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see how fun they are at about nine thirty.

838
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: Well, these are fun. They have nothing to do really

839
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: with the game. Well, I guess kind of the Big Three.

840
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 2: They become the first trio to play twenty seasons together

841
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 2: in NHL history, and a lot of what the Penguins

842
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: do right now is serving nostalgia, So it's cool to

843
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: have that little historic nugget attached to those three. Number two,

844
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: Kendall and Brunnic become the third set of teenagers to

845
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: play together in Penguin's history. They are also the third oldest.

846
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: They're not the youngest of this three. The second youngest

847
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: is Chrys Latang and Jordan Stall combined five hundred and

848
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: fifty four days, the youngest pair though, do you know it? No,

849
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: the Big Boys a part of it, Mario Lemieux and

850
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: Doug Bond, So.

851
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: That makes sense.

852
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: Yes, they had three first round picks that year was

853
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: a bad team and they all came straight into the

854
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: opening like squad, including Roger Blaney.

855
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: Uh Mario and Bodger were combined four hundred and eighty

856
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: six days years old, four hundred and eighty six days

857
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: into their teenage years.

858
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: Right, right, they're very young.

859
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: Number one, though, is Sidney Crosby. He joins Steve Eiserman

860
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: as both the person in NHL history to be a

861
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: captain for the most total seasons and then obviously the

862
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: most total seasons with one franchise being a captain at nineteen.

863
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: When he takes the ice tonight, I had.

864
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: A bunch of really inappropriate jokes I could have cracked

865
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: at almost any time.

866
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what they were between segments.

867
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think all that's interesting, and I think

868
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: the more we can focus on what is interesting, the

869
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: mortal take this thing out of some losses that are

870
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: gonna pile up. But I will say I would not

871
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: be surprised that the Penguins win tonight, and I'm predicting

872
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: they'll win two out of their first three. The New

873
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: York teams, the Islanders Arrangers aren't that good. It once

874
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: shot me to see them get the dubbed tonight in

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Speaker 1: New York. I think hill Off starting he could stand

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Speaker 1: on his head I think he'll be inspired by starting,

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Speaker 1: whereas Jarriot, which just would have been well like goal

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Speaker 1: on the first shot.

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Speaker 3: Probably.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is kind of a perfect year when

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Speaker 2: you look at it from the angle of you know,

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Speaker 2: nostalgia and historic achievements from your best player. Sidney Crosby,

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Speaker 2: he does this thing nineteenth year as a captain before

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Speaker 2: the season even starts, and he's gonna pass them you

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Speaker 2: and Eierman this year as far as points is concerned,

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Speaker 2: I mean, as long as he averages a point per game,

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Speaker 2: which I hope he does, and if he stays healthy,

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Speaker 2: which I hope he does, he will definitely pass both

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Speaker 2: of them. And those are both of his idols. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he'll become the leading scorer in Penguin's history when he

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Speaker 2: passes Mario and then Iserman's his guy from birth. I mean,

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Speaker 2: so from that aspect, there's a lot of stuff that

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Speaker 2: you know, has a little bit of a fan service

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Speaker 2: element to it when it comes to Sidney Crosby this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, you need it, no question like it.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, there's gonna be a lot of storylines

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Speaker 1: this season, a ton of them. I mean, there might

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Speaker 1: be some bad ones, you know, that. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I've seen far worse, which I'll talk about just a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But the most important thing is to get

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Speaker 1: that top five draft pick, to get one of those

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Speaker 1: star caliber forward talents and hopefully you know when the

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Speaker 1: lottery and get Gavin McKenna.

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Speaker 2: You know something Borkiy said yesterday when he joined the

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Speaker 2: show too. If they are flirting with that playoff spot

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Speaker 2: by Thanksgiving or they're slightly in the playoffs, you better

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Speaker 2: make it then, like they they cannot kind of float

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Speaker 2: around in that mushy middle and then be the ninth

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Speaker 2: team in the Eastern Conference. If you're gonna do it,

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're bad enough to lose like ten

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Speaker 1: in a row, and I I if it's gonna happen, though,

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Speaker 1: you know what, it could happen this trip out West

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Speaker 1: right after the first three games. That'll be testing. That'll

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Speaker 1: either be a real good thing or a real bad thing.

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Speaker 1: And either way it'll be start to find out thing.

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Speaker 2: What if the Penguins, with this new structure with mews

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Speaker 2: to just get better with a lead, And I mean

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Speaker 2: they've not had a problem getting out to a lead

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Speaker 2: in the years past. It's been preserving the lead. That's

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Speaker 2: been the problem.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you get a lead and you have that structure,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna play Carlson or not.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna play Carlson. Yeah, there you go.

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