1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: This is America's Trucking Network with Kevin Gordon. 2 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Welcome board, Thanks for tuning in on this Thursday morning. Well, 3 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: Lion Jerry Powell and the Federal Reserve lowered interest rates. 4 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: We'll get to that in the moment. But first, yesterday 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: during the afternoon, I was doing some show prepping, some 6 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: work around the house and so on, and boy, we 7 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: were having a bunch of wind gusts and I thought, well, 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: what what what is that? I mean, not what is it, 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: but how high is it? And I looked and they 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: were saying we were getting between thirty five and forty 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: five mile per hour winds. 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: Now, where we live, it's up on a hill. 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: And I've described this before, and so we face west 14 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: and so all of the most of the weather we 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: get comes from the west, and so when the wind comes, 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: it comes in pretty stiff. And I was looking up, 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: and I remember during the hurricane season they were talking 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: about tropical storms, that the tropical storms are forming and 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: that's just below a hurricane status. But in order to 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 2: qualify for that, that's got to be thirty five mile 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: per hour winds up to seventy four mile per hour winds. 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: And I'm thinking I remember thinking that the time we'll shoot, 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: we were always in a tropical storm or up you know, 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: several days a month in a tropical storm up there 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: on the hill, because that's kind of when we get 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: but I guess during the winter months it's considered a 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: gale storm or gale force winds or something along those lines. 28 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: So it was kind of a surprising day. I mean, 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: we get win, but there are certain times when the gusts, 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: and I guess the way it comes in is where 31 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: you can really hear it and hear it outside and 32 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: how things rattle, either on the deck or something along 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: those lines. 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: I just thought i'd throw that out there. 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: Having gale force wins in the wilder Kentucky area, I 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: guess mostly, and looking around the country there's. 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: A lot of wind going around a lot of other places. 38 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: Getting to Lion Jerry Powell and the Federal Reserve now, 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: I called Lion Jerry Powell Lion Jerry Powell for a reason. 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: I guess they should clarify that all along. You know, 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: he keeps talking about that. Well, at least during the 42 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four year when they started right after they 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: paused raising interest rates after inflation had gotten out of 44 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: control up to nine point one percent in June of 45 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. I guess they finally decided that, well, 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: you know, our mandate is we're supposed to keep inflation low. 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: So they decided to start raising interest rates at that point. 48 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: And then they paused in June July of around July 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three, and so they hadn't done anything 50 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: with interest rate increases or decreases. Well, all of a sudden, 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: you know, they start talking about, well, our mandate is 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: in we need to control inflation. Inflation needs to get 53 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: down to about two percent. Then all of a sudden, 54 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: they got this jobs report which had come out in 55 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 2: January of twenty twenty four. 56 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 3: We talked about that on this program. 57 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: And this job's report was that they looked back through 58 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: the previous year and determined that about eight hundred and 59 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: eighteen I think it was eight hundred and fifty or 60 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: something thousand jobs had been overestimated during that period of time, 61 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 2: which basically boiled down to I think something like overestimating 62 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: the employment numbers by sixty five seventy thousand per month. 63 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: And this report came out and just in that January 64 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: December January December of twenty twenty three. January of twenty 65 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: twenty four is when I'm trying to spit out here, 66 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: and it was a shock to everybody. And I remember 67 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: talking at the point where then, you know, looking back 68 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: through all this bragging that the Biden administration had talked 69 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: about in terms of job creation since the pandemic and 70 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: getting back and so on, started digging into the numbers 71 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: and saying, well, you know, the plandemic ended pretty much 72 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. Then we had the supply chain issues, 73 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: and they started bragging about the number of jobs created. 74 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: But if you go back to pre plandemic and what 75 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: the jobs were at that time and how many jobs 76 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: were lost as a result of COVID, they had lost 77 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: something like we had lost something like twenty million jobs 78 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: during that period of time, where restaurants closed, business, clothes 79 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 2: manufacturing clothes, A lot of people were working from home, 80 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: but for the most part, people were on unemployment or 81 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: getting these subsidy checks or these stimulus checks from the 82 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: federal government. And so when the people started coming back 83 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: to work, the number of people that came back to 84 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: work was around sixteen million. And they're claiming that we've 85 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: created sixteen million jobs. Well, no, you're not creating sixteen 86 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: million jobs. You just finally opened the and people started 87 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: coming back. Now, the real number was that, if it's 88 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: sixteen thousand that came back, what happened to those other 89 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: four million? They're not back to work, So what are 90 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: you not doing in order to bring them along? So anyway, 91 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, they started talking about, well, you know, 92 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: we need to start paying attention a little bit to 93 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: jobs or something along those lines. And it got a 94 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: little bit you know, they started mentioning at that point. 95 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: But what was weird is that this report. 96 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: Came out in January indicating that these eight hundred thousand 97 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: jobs had been overestimated. Well, the final report on that, 98 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: for some reason, comes out in August, and when August 99 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: rolled around, the report came out same number that they 100 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: reported in January. Well, all of a sudden, everybody's going, oh, 101 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: the job market is really slowing down. Oh this is 102 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: you know, the job market is softening. The Federal Reserve 103 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: needs to do something. They need to They had just 104 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: had a one of their meetings. They said they need 105 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: to have an emergency meeting and cut interest rates immediately. 106 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: And so on. 107 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: Well, between that time and then when they met in September, 108 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: things had pretty much evened. 109 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: Oubt. 110 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: People had kind of gotten used to where there was 111 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: a job's report that came in that said things were 112 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: improving and that this this eight hundred thousand jobs that 113 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: were lost. They started explaining away that, you know, and 114 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: explaining how that happened, which was bs but again they 115 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 2: overestimated it. So the numbers are what the numbers are. Well, 116 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: in September of twenty twenty four, Lion Jerry Powell, who 117 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: said that inflation rate has to come down to two 118 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: percent before we start raising lowering interest rates, suddenly six 119 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: weeks before the election, lowers interest rates a quarter percentage point, 120 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: claiming that the job market is the thing, you know, 121 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: because we've got this other mandate making sure that we've 122 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: got a strong job market. So all the line that 123 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: he did during that year saying that, oh, no, we're 124 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: focused on inflation. We're focused on inflation. In September of 125 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four was up around three point two three 126 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: point three percent, but they cut interest rates by a 127 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: half a percentage point. I said at the time it 128 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: was a political move. He's trying to push Kamala Harris 129 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: across the finish line, which fortunately didn't work. But now 130 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, people are looking back on that 131 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: and say, well, you know what, that was kind of 132 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: a political move. Well, no kidding, but you know who 133 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: called it out first, who talked about it first here 134 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: on Americans Struck a Network. 135 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: And again I mentioned this over and over again. 136 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: If you listen to this program, you are so far 137 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: ahead of the curve people won't even see your tail lights. 138 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: Things we talk about on this program people start talking 139 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: about weeks, months, even a half a year away from 140 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: when we start talking about it. So anyway, that's kind 141 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: of my point on that, and the fact that Federal 142 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: Reserve line. That's why I call it lion Jerry Powell. 143 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: Lion Jerry Powell again, because you can't trust what he's saying. 144 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: President Trump calls him too late Powell because of being 145 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: too far behind, mentioning the fact that he was slow 146 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: to react to the inflationary pressures during the Biden administration 147 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: and twenty well actually from the beginning of the Biden 148 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: administration up until twenty twenty two. After June of twenty 149 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: twenty two, when inflation got up to nine point one percent, 150 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: nine point one percent in one month. 151 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: Folks, Let's not forget that. 152 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: When you know those people on the other side, the 153 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: Democrats and the Liberals, start talking about affordability, what were 154 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: you talking about back then, is my question. And secondly, 155 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: if your guy, if you guys are the ones that 156 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: created the unaffordability problem over the four years of the 157 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: Biden administration, what makes you think that we're going to 158 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: trust you to come back in and fix it. So 159 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: again Jerry Powell talking about you know that what their 160 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: mandate is. But then you know, as far as all 161 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: the stuff he's keeps talking about that inflation needs to 162 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: be around two percent, and yet he's and Trump keeps 163 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: calling him too late because he was too late to 164 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: react to inflation going out of control, and then once 165 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 2: he started, once they started lowering the interest rates or 166 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: raising the interest rates, rather then all of a sudden, 167 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: when things started cooling down, he's too late to come 168 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: in and start lowering the interest rates, which would generate 169 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: an increase in the economy and boost up gross domestic 170 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: product and keep the economy flowing and running smoothly. But again, 171 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: he's been very reluctant to do that, and then when 172 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 2: you compare our interest rates to the rest of the world, 173 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: we are in some cases double on the list. On 174 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: the list of countries with their mortgage interest rates and 175 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: so on, we are forty sixth on the list compared 176 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: to the rest of the world. So we're not the 177 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: top ten, not the top five. We are forty six 178 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: on the list in terms of lower interest rates, so 179 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: we're in the six percentage rate. 180 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 3: Some are as low as one point ninety seven. 181 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: Coming up, we'll talk a little bit more about this 182 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: Federal Reserve interest rate cut, because some of the things 183 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: they talked about in here is kind of interesting. 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It's key interest rate, key interest 262 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: rate Wednesday, but signaled a tougher road ahead for further reductions. 263 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: I cannot wait for May until Lion Jerry Powell is replaced, 264 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: and I wonder who that's going to be. A lot 265 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: of people were talking about that Kevin Hassen, who is 266 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: current advising President Trump on economic policies, that he might 267 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: be the one. A lot of people are saying that 268 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: there's a ninety some percent chance that he's going to 269 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: be the one picked. It's called the National Economic Council Chair. 270 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: Kevin Hassett is the front runner, but Lion Jerry Powell's 271 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: got to go. As a matter of fact, again I 272 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: mentioned this that I had heard this. I think it 273 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: was in March or so, and I'm really not sure 274 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: who brought it up. It may have been Scott Bessen, 275 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: could have been Larry Kudlow from Fox Business News, but 276 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: somebody mentioned the fact that what Donald Trump ought to do, 277 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: because he kept at that point, has been you know, 278 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: he's been on Powell since he, you know, came back 279 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: in office that he needs to start cutting interest rates 280 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: a little bit more vigorously, and that Powell has been 281 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: very reluctant to do that. The fact that again going 282 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: back to September of twenty twenty four, when he lowered 283 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: interest rates a half percentage point a political move trying 284 00:15:58,600 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: to get Kamala Harris elected. 285 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: So I don't think he likes Trump very much, even. 286 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: Though Trump was the one that appointed him to that 287 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: position in his first term. 288 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: I just it's unbelievable. 289 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: But anyway, they were talking at the time that you 290 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: can't unless you have just cause, you usually can't fire 291 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: a Federal Reserve chairman, even though he does have the 292 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: power to do that. History and tradition is that you don't. 293 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: And so what people were suggesting, again I don't know 294 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: if it was Scott Besson, but said that what Trump 295 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: ought to do is ought to pick the person that's 296 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: going to replace Jerry Powell, have them go through the 297 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: confirmation process, and so that he's sitting in or he 298 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: or she is waiting in the wings, and that would 299 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: then put pressure on Jerry Powell that when people are 300 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of one of those things where 301 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: Jerry Powell is giving a press conference or talking about 302 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: certain things, then they would turn to the new or 303 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: the assume replacements. 304 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: Well, what's your opinion on that? What do you think? 305 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 2: How would you handle this if you were in that position, 306 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 2: And it'd be a kind of a checks and balances 307 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: if you were, if you will that okay, that Jerry 308 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: Powell can't be out there all by himself prognosticating and 309 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: talking about the economy. You got somebody that could possibly 310 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: be on the same even footing talking about it as well. 311 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 3: I don't know why they didn't do it. 312 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: I thought it was an excellent I thought it was 313 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: an excellent idea, but they haven't acted on it. Now 314 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: supposedly by the first of the year or shortly after 315 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: the first of the year. I wish it was done 316 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: before Christmas. That'd be a nice Christmas gift for the 317 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: American public to know who is going to be heading 318 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: up the FED and what their ideas are, whether it's 319 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: supply side or whatever they are. In terms of an economist, 320 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: it would be interesting to know who that is. But again, 321 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 2: I cannot wait for Jerry Powell to be out of 322 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: this office. Again, they're talking about that it's going to 323 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: be a high hurdle in order of future interest rate cuts. Well, 324 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: let's get another Federal Reserve chairment in there and see 325 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: what happens. Fulfilling expectations of a hawkish cut, the Central 326 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 2: Bank Federal Open Market Committee cut its key overnight borrowing 327 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: rate by a quarter percentage point, putting it in the 328 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: range between three point five and three point seven five percent. 329 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: Now in other countries, in England, France, some of those 330 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: countries that number is down around one point five percent. Now, 331 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: that key overnight rate, again is not the overall interest 332 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 2: rates in our country. What it is is the overnight 333 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 2: borrowing costs that banks do between banks. If they have 334 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: to borrow money from individual banks for check cashing purposes, 335 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: or if there's stores that deal in a lot of 336 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: cash and they have to have a lot of cash 337 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: on hand at their individual store locations, maybe around the 338 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: first of the month, middle of the month, something along 339 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: those lines, around payday, whatever, there are cash needs, and 340 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: they may not because you don't keep a lot of 341 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: cash in the banks anymore. Simply because of well liability issues, 342 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 2: and plus if cash is sitting there, it's not somewhere 343 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: gaining interest or being invested overnight in some funds. But anyway, 344 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: it's a whole complicated issue there. But again, this Federal 345 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 2: Reserve overnight rate in terms of borrowing is what this 346 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: rate ties into. The three point five now going to 347 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: be three point five to three point seventy five. 348 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: However, the move. 349 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: Carried caution flags about where the policy is heading heading 350 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 2: or headed from here, and featured a some no votes 351 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: in terms of three members, which hadn't happened since September 352 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. Usually the Federal Reserve, when they do a vote, 353 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: it's unanimous, but over the last few months there have 354 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 2: been dissension. There has been people who have either voted 355 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: no on an interest rate cut or one in particular 356 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: that keeps voting no because he wants a higher rate. 357 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: So the nine to three vote against featured a hawkish 358 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: and Dubvish descents. Governor Stephen Maren favored a steeper half 359 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: point reduction, while original or while regional presidents Jeffrey Schmid 360 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: of Kansas City and Austin Goldsby of Chicago backed holding 361 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: the line. In fact, again they voted against an interest 362 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: rate cut. 363 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: They wanted no interest rate cut this period. 364 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: Now, Stephen Maren has been a very advocate of what 365 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: they call a hawkish hawkish member of the Committee, wanting 366 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 2: interest rates to be cut even further, and I agree 367 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: with it. I think the interest rate should have been 368 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve cutting interest rate last time and even 369 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 2: this time should have been a half a percentage point, 370 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: but they keep doing it in quarter point increments. Stephen 371 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 2: Maren said that it should have been a full half 372 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: a percentage point, so he voted no against. 373 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 3: The quarter percent. 374 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 2: Now these two FED chairman or FED presidents, Jeffrey Schmid 375 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 2: and Austin Goldsby, who voted against any rate cut, Let's 376 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: not forget who Austin Goldsby is. Austin Goldsby was the 377 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: chairman of the Economic Advisors in the Obama administration, so 378 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: he's very liberal and of course very political. I remember 379 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: seeing him on various shows, in various programs talking about, oh, 380 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: how great the economy was and how great this was. 381 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 2: The Affordable Care Act would be super because it's going 382 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: to cut the insurance costs of everybody by twenty five 383 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: hundred dollars, when in fact, the Affordable Care Act is 384 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: anything but affordable care. It actually raised people's premiums on 385 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: insurance by twenty five hundred dollars. They were supposed to 386 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 2: save US twenty five hundred dollars, but in fact cost 387 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: US twenty five hundred dollars, a five thousand dollars swing. 388 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: So he had been this mouth he's for the Obama administration, 389 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 2: and then during the Trump administration was a critic of 390 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: the Trump administration. Every time you talk about, wow, you know, 391 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 2: during our time, we did this and and and this 392 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: is where I recommend a. 393 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: Very liberal guy. 394 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: So the fact that he is dissenting and is and 395 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: is part of the Fed, now you are not getting 396 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: a supply sider. You're not getting a conservative voice. 397 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: Now. 398 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: They keep remember everybody keeps talking about when Trump was 399 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: talking about getting rid of Jerry Powell, that the Federal 400 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: Reserve is this independent body, that it's you know, a 401 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: political that it that it only concentrates on economic policy 402 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: and what's good for the country. Well, in fact, you've 403 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 2: got some of these people on there that are a 404 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 2: bunch of clowns, and they don't really understand economics and 405 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: Austin Goldsby is a guy who is very liberal. 406 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: And is anti Trump. 407 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 2: So the fact that he is anti Trump and on 408 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve, you mean tell me that we're supposed 409 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: to believe that he leaves his political views at the 410 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 2: door when he comes in to serve as one of 411 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: the board chairman or one of the Federal Open Market 412 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: Committee governors at one of the districts, one of the 413 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: twelve districts around the country. 414 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 415 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: And if you listen to interviews from him and go 416 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: back and look at some of the stuff that he said, 417 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 2: you know he's not a fan of Donald Trump and 418 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: he's not conservatives. So again, the fact that he's dissenting 419 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: on this and the fact that there is political movement 420 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: within the Federal Reserve is again an indication when the 421 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: spoon feder regurgitators in the mainstream media tell us that 422 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: this is an independent body, not so much. Talk a 423 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: little bit more about this coming up. I'm Kevin Gordon, 424 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 2: America's Trucking Network seven hundred WLW. 425 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 9: Here's our trucking forecast for the Tri State and the 426 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 9: rest of the country. In the Tri Estate overnight, mostly 427 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 9: Claudia with the chance of snow. 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Above average temperatures are expected. 440 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: Seven hundred wlw IM Kevin Gordon. 441 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: This is America Destrucking Network. 442 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: Turning in our conversation here about the Federal Reserve interest 443 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: rate cut decision. 444 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: We've talked about Austin Goldsby, and you know. 445 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 2: In the previous segment about how he is so anti 446 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: Trump and was a member of the Obama administration. So 447 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: again he's got political leanings in that direction, and they 448 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: talk about this interest rate being hawk ish, and I 449 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 2: need to probably explain that. By the way, if you've 450 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: missed any of our previous segments or into our shows, 451 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: hit up that iHeartRadio app and of course that's brought 452 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: to you by our friends at Rush Truck Centers. 453 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 3: And it was kind of interesting. 454 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 2: You know, in the parlance when you talk about a 455 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: hawk or a dove, you know, hawk seems to be 456 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: more aggressive, whereas a dove is more passive. But apparently 457 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: the way the Federal Reserve and of course you know 458 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve controlling interest rates, that of course they're 459 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: going to be backwards from what would normally be there. 460 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 3: I get this, okay. 461 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: In Federal Reserve parlance, hawks are generally more concerned about 462 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 2: inflation and favor higher interest rates, while doves focus on 463 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: supporting the labor market and want lower rates. That seems 464 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 2: to me to be a complete flip. Now, if you're 465 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 2: caught talking about a inflation hawk, where you are worried 466 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: about inflation and you want to keep that in check, 467 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: that's one thing. But when you're talking about interest rates, 468 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: interest rates should be in my opinion aggressive one way 469 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: or the other. If you've got and really, you know, 470 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 2: the marketplace should determine where these rates are. And everybody 471 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: talks in terms of these interest rates that if they are. 472 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 3: Low, it stimulates the economy. 473 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: We talk about that when we're talking about oil and 474 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: gas prices. Every time there is a comment in there, 475 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: they refer to that as a situation where if interest 476 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 2: rates are low, then people will have more disposable income, 477 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: they will buy and use more gasoline, which will then 478 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: increase well, affect gasoline prices or affect the prices, because 479 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 2: if the supply is low and the demand is high, 480 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: the prices will go up and so on. So it's 481 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 2: just a matter of supply side economics. And so it's 482 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: interesting to see the way they put this in consideration. 483 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 3: So anyway, getting. 484 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 2: Back to this particular, going back to what was going on, 485 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: they're talking about the third consecutive time that Stephen Maron 486 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: had voted against interest rate cut because he wants a 487 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: half a percentage. 488 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: Point interest rate cuts. 489 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 2: And in this they say, the post meeting rate statement, 490 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: Now get. 491 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 3: This, Okay, how lazy do you have to be? 492 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 2: All Right, you got twenty three thousand employees at the 493 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: Federal Reserve, and you have a situation where they can 494 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: come up with economic I mean they can get on 495 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 2: the telephone, they can read the Wall Street Journal, the 496 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: Business Insigner or whatever and get all this information as 497 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: far as what's going on in the economy, and then 498 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 2: when they're making their determination, they can come up with 499 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 2: some original language. 500 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 3: But get this, okay. 501 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: The post meeting rate statement repurposed language from the FOMC 502 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: meeting a year ago. They say, in considering the extent 503 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: and timing of additional adjustments to the target range for 504 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: the Federal Funds rate, the Committee will carefully assess incoming data, 505 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: the evolving outlook, and the balance of risks. 506 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: What did they just say there? 507 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it is just so obvious, or you know, 508 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: it's almost like stating the obvious. 509 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: It's almost like, you know, if you turn on the. 510 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: Radio between midnight and one am Tuesday through Friday, Kevin 511 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: Gordon is going to be on americastruct A network. I mean, yeah, okay, 512 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: why do you have to spell that out? So again, 513 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: let's look at this particular statement, in considering the extent 514 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: and timing of additional adjustments to the target range, in 515 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: other words, adjusting the interest rate up or down federal 516 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: funds rate. The Committee will carefully assess incoming data. Isn't 517 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: that assumed? Are we assuming that you're not you're just 518 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: going to ignore the data, that you're not going to 519 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: pay any attention to it, that you're going to fly 520 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: by the seat of your pants. Well, of course you're 521 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: going to consider carefully assess that the evolving outlook, what's 522 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 2: going on at that particular point in time, what's up, 523 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: what's down? What you know, even geopolitical issues are going 524 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: to come into play. So the Committee will carefully assess 525 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: the incoming data and evolving outlook and balance the risks. 526 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 3: Okay, and what risk are we talking about? 527 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: Are we talking about that if the interest rates are down, 528 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: people are going to have more money in their pocket. 529 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: They'll be out there spending. Do they think that that 530 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: will lead Some people think that will lead to inflation? 531 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: Other people think that, okay, people having more money in 532 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: their pockets is a good thing. 533 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: You know, we are a lot better stewards of what 534 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: we want to do or what we need with our money. 535 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: Rather than having it confiscated by the federal government or 536 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: confiscated in the form of interest rates on our credit 537 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: cards and so on. If we've got more money in 538 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: our pockets, we'll pay down our debt. Maybe we'll save 539 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: a little bit more. But it's up to us to 540 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 2: make that determination and not manipulated by some entity in 541 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: some ivory tower somewhere. So again, this is some of 542 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: the things that they, you know, sitting on high they 543 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: act as though that they are so brilliant and so smart. Well, 544 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: if they're so smart, how did they let inflation get 545 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: out of control during the Biden administration? And how did 546 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: they tamp down economic recovery buy high interest rates and 547 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: going into the area. 548 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 3: Now why are. 549 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: They pulling back on the reins and keeping this economy 550 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: from flourishing again? These guys are the so called experts, 551 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: but I'm not so sure how expert or how smart 552 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: they are. Third consecutive rate cut is now in the books. 553 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: That turned to where they're going to head from here, 554 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 2: the closely watched dot plot. 555 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 3: Now what part of this is that? 556 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: Also as part of the meeting, everybody that's part of 557 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: the meeting, they will say, Okay, what do you think 558 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: or what you anticipate or what's your opinion on where 559 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: interest rates should be in the coming year or in 560 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: the upcoming meetings, and so some people will say, well, 561 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: I think interest rates need to be reduced, either lowered 562 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: or raised or the same. And so they plot these out, 563 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: so they, you know, talk about the individual meetings and okay, 564 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: how many interest rate cuts a particular board member should 565 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: see for the year, how many you know, and so on. 566 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: So they plot these all out and then they kind 567 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: of accumulate those dots on this board and kind of 568 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 2: get a feel for how these individuals feel about certain 569 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: things because they talk about that there isn't a whole 570 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: lot of discussion. There isn't a whole lot of debate 571 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: during these meetings. So it's it's like, well, you know, 572 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: what is the why. 573 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: Do you meet? 574 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: Why don't you not just phone it in? Why do 575 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: you have to Why don't you just pick up the 576 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: phone and say, all right, I think there should be 577 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: a a half percent rate your meeting for two weeks, 578 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: for two days. I mean, there's no debate during that 579 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: period of time. The whole thing just kind of surprises 580 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: me from some time from time to time. So again, 581 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: and getting back to this whole thing, that a hawk 582 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: is somebody who wants to raise interest rates, whereas a 583 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: dove is somebody that wants to lower them. 584 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 3: I don't get that. That doesn't make any sense to me. 585 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: So anyway, on the economy ant, the Committee raised its 586 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: collective view of gross domestic product for twenty twenty six, 587 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: boosting this September projection by half a percentage point to 588 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: two point three. The Committee continues to expect inflation to 589 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: hold above two percent target until twenty twenty eight. Well, 590 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: if they're expecting the inflation rate to be above two 591 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: percent till twenty twenty eight, why are they saying they're 592 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: going to hold back any interest rate cuts until it 593 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: hits that two percent rate. If they already figure that 594 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: it's going to be there anyway, why not stimulate the economy, 595 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: boost production, which would probably wind up reducing inflation because 596 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: the more items that are produced that are produced at 597 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: a lesser cost. I mean, you've got your fixed costs, 598 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: and you have your variable costs. But the more products 599 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: you you know, the more products you sell, the more 600 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 2: products you make, brings that cost overall down, which then 601 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: has passed along to the consumer, and the consumer saves 602 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: money on that. So again, apparently these people just don't 603 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: understand economics on inflation. Prices remain stubbornly high in the 604 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: FEDS preferred gauge, putting the annual rate at two point 605 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: eight percent in September, the most recent month for which 606 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: data is available. They talked about in here that again 607 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: timing of the federal rate cuts and talking about Trump 608 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: signal that he will make a decision by the end 609 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: of the year as to who is going to replace Powell. 610 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: I wish he would have done that a little bit earlier. Again, 611 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: we've talked about in the past. How I think that 612 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: you know that at the beginning of the year that 613 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: they were talking about possibly firing Derme Powell and bringing 614 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: somebody else in, and then they said, you know again 615 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: that they didn't think that was a good idea, and 616 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: that affect the independence of the Federal Reserve. Well, again, 617 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 2: they aren't independent. They're politically minded. And if you had 618 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 2: and one of the suggestions was that somebody should you know, 619 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: they should vote on who should replace Jerome Powell, have 620 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: that person nominated, have that person go through the. 621 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 3: Confirmation process so that they'll be in place. 622 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 2: So if Jerome Powell makes a comment on the economy, 623 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: they can turn to the new federal chairman and say, well, 624 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 2: do you agree with that? 625 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 3: What do you think should be done? And so on. 626 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 2: So I think that should have been done along with this, 627 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 2: and so I think that should have been done around 628 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: the beginning of the year, but again it should be 629 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: done by the end of the year. Coming up, we'll 630 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,479 Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about what's going on here 631 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: and finish this up and get onto some other things, 632 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 2: because these interest rate cuts are affecting other businesses and 633 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 2: some of the projections that these businesses are making. I'm 634 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: Kevin Gordon, America Struck a Network seven h under WLW. 635 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW and iHeartRadio Station Guarantee Human 636 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. 637 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: HI Heard Radio. This is Jim. Hello. Jim started advertising 638 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 3: with iHeartRadio way back in. 639 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: Eight Again, I think it should have been a full 640 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: half a percentage point. That would have been nice, but 641 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 2: we take what we can get. Federal officials have had 642 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 2: to operate, and I love this. Had to operate in 643 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 2: an environment where much of the official data they use 644 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 2: in decision making either has been trickling in well behind 645 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 2: schedule or missing entirely due to the government shutdown. The 646 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: Schumer shutdown. Now, we saw during the Schumer shutdown, again, 647 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: I got to reiterate the fact that the Federal Reserve 648 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: has twenty three thousand employees that are supposed to be 649 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 2: these economists, that they're stationed in different locations twelve different 650 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: districts around the country, and so being in those individual districts, 651 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 2: they would be able to gauge the economy in those 652 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: particular markets by being out on the street reading some 653 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,959 Speaker 2: of the business pages of the newspapers there, seeing what's 654 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: going on in the economy in their own individual districts, 655 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 2: and be able to report on this. We saw during 656 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 2: the Schumer shutdown that there were companies Goldman Sachs, Nationwide 657 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: City Bank, and a couple of others that would look 658 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 2: at the data that the states put in on a 659 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: weekly basis up to the Labor Department's website saying how 660 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: much of the initial jobless claims were reported by those 661 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 2: states for that particular week. And so these companies were 662 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 2: going to that site, gathering that information and coming up 663 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: with the initial jobless claims on a weekly basis. I'm 664 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 2: sure that a lot of this data that is being 665 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 2: funneled to I mean the federal government's got to be 666 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 2: getting this information from somewhere, and that somewhere could be 667 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 2: out there being distributed to them, but then tapped into 668 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 2: by other people when the government shut down, and they 669 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 2: can come up with these reports on their own, which 670 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: leads me to believe that, or leads me to ask 671 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: the question, why aren't some of these things being done 672 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 2: by an independent agency rather than relying on the federal 673 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: government to do this and the federal the taxpayers. I'm 674 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 2: sure there's a profitability in there where somebody could put 675 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 2: this data together and sell it to the individual news 676 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: agencies or whatever. But again, reliance on the federal government 677 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: to come up with these reports. And again, if that 678 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: information is available and other people can tap into that 679 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 2: and come up with the same reports, why aren't we 680 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 2: kind of duplicating processes there. So again the fact that 681 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 2: they say that they're operating it's almost as they're trying 682 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 2: to say we're operating blind. Where again, you don't go 683 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: to the grocery store, you don't go to the gas station, 684 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: you don't go to the hardware stores, you don't go 685 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 2: out and observe what's going on. You don't eat out, 686 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 2: you don't go to any of these things in your 687 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: own districts and get kind of the compilation what's going 688 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: on there. And people talk about that within the Federal 689 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 2: Reserve twenty three thousand employees, So you got to kind 690 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,919 Speaker 2: of wonder what they do. I said, again, they're talking 691 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 2: about that some of the numbers that they're looking at, 692 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 2: what data they do have available indicator that the labor 693 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: market is in a low hire, no fire, and client climate. 694 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 3: Well, that's been talked about often. 695 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 2: That's been talked about almost every week, talking about initial 696 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: job as claims, talking about the employment reports, talking about 697 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 2: what these companies are doing, what they're telling their board members, 698 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: what they're telling their stockholders when they're having these meetings. Again, 699 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: this information has been well known out there. And they're 700 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 2: talking about their unofficial data point from talking about heavier 701 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 2: payroll reductions, and they cite this company that they're talking 702 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 2: about that this Challenger Great in Christmas is saying that 703 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 2: their estimates of future layoffs, based on some of the 704 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 2: reports that these companies have said, is going to be 705 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 2: one point one million people. 706 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 3: In the coming year. 707 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 2: Now, just last month they said they announced that there 708 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 2: was going to be at one hundred and fifty some 709 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 2: thousand people that were going to be laid off, well 710 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 2: the following month, just a month later, they adjusted that 711 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 2: by half. And so a lot of people have said 712 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 2: that some of that employment data, some of that stuff 713 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 2: that they gather and some of these other people isn't 714 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 2: as reliable as other data. So rather than focusing on 715 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: and mentioning that unreliable data, the lazy part of the 716 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media, they don't bother 717 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 2: going out and getting the actual data from the people 718 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 2: that know what they're talking about. So again, if they're 719 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 2: relying on something that is not necessarily accurate, I don't 720 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 2: know why they would do that. So anyway, Uh, one 721 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 2: of the things that I saw, and again this is 722 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 2: directly related to well directly relatable to what we've been hearing. 723 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 2: You know, as I've said before, the Democrats have been 724 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 2: whining and talking about affordability. Yet where were they concerned 725 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 2: about that during the Biden years? During the Biden administration 726 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 2: when gas got up to at one point national average 727 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 2: of five dollars and two cents a gallon, whereas today, 728 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 2: as of today, gas prices across the board national averages 729 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 2: two dollars and ninety four cents, So again, where were 730 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 2: they back then? Talking about affordability, Phil Flynn has a 731 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: very interesting editorial. Actually it's his energy report, but a 732 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 2: lot of things in here. In this particular energy report 733 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 2: is very interesting. Gasline price is at the lowest level 734 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 2: since twenty twenty one, making life more affordable, and seeing 735 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 2: that affordability is the new favorite word of the left, 736 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 2: that should be a major win. Of course, the left 737 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 2: will point out that the electricity won't point out will 738 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 2: point out that electricity prices have been soaring, but that 739 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 2: is directly attributable to the record demand that has happened 740 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 2: because of power centers, and demand for artificial intelligence that 741 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 2: is growing, and the economy and lack of investment in 742 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 2: infrastructure that occurred due to democrat over regulation and the 743 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 2: push toward green energy. In other words, all this point 744 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,919 Speaker 2: push to green energy, all those grants that were put 745 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 2: out there, the billions of dollars that were put into 746 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 2: that from the federal government in the form of grants 747 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 2: or tax credits to these green energy companies that are 748 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 2: going to produce all these windmills, solar power, and all 749 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 2: this sort of stuff which hadn't even been a blip 750 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: on the radar screen in terms of and they talked 751 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 2: about this would be more affordable because of the investment 752 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 2: in that, the shift to that from other reliable sources, 753 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,280 Speaker 2: and what they talk about in terms of fossil fuel. 754 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 2: That has spiked these energy prices. As you know, when 755 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 2: you start raising increasing the regulations on certain areas of 756 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 2: energy production like oil and gas or gas cold powered 757 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: plants in favor of solar power or wind power which 758 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,720 Speaker 2: is unproven and unreliable. As they found out, you don't 759 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: have as much infrastructure and you do not have as 760 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 2: much electricity being produced, so you're not you're doing away 761 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 2: with one and not replacing it with one that's even 762 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 2: better or even substantial. So that led to brownouts and 763 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 2: led to higher costs for the individuals because not only 764 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 2: are there having to fund one area that is producing electricity, 765 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 2: but developing another area that's well supposed to increase or 766 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 2: develop electricity that isn't being produced. So again, these costs 767 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 2: and you know the you know, remember the Affordable Care 768 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 2: or not the Affordable Care Act, but THEA was it 769 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 2: called the Inflation Reduction Act. When the administration passed that 770 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 2: Inflation Reduction Act. It was basically they might as well 771 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 2: call it the Green New Steel Bill because there was 772 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,959 Speaker 2: an awful lot of funding in there for these green 773 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 2: energy products. So we jumped a billions and billions of 774 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 2: dollars into those which really didn't pan out. So that's 775 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 2: wasted tax money, that's wasted energy production, and again higher 776 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 2: electricity costs. But it's a very good editorial. I'll probably 777 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 2: posted this on my Facebook page. But getting to one 778 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 2: of the areas where things are really important in terms 779 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 2: of how interest rates were affecting different things. Hot Home 780 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 2: Depot issues it costs twenty twenty six Outlook Home Depot 781 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 2: is offering costious preliminary outlet in the coming year, a 782 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 2: sign that the home improvement retail doesn't anticipate the housing 783 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 2: market to rebound in the short term. The company expects 784 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 2: comparable sales growth to be in the range of flat 785 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 2: to up to two percent for the year, below the 786 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 2: average of estimates compiled by You and these other companies. 787 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 2: The US housing market has weighed on Home Depot as 788 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 2: high interest rates prompt consumers to remain on the sidelines 789 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 2: for big ticket purchases and projects that required refinement and 790 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 2: required financing. While mortgage rates are lower than they were 791 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 2: a year ago, Americans have been cautius amid higher costs 792 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 2: across the economy. Some prices also remain high, remaining that 793 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 2: the meaning that the housing has become more out of 794 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 2: reach for a large portion of the population directly result 795 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 2: of interest rates. Now, what they are also saying in 796 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,919 Speaker 2: this report that Home Depot released, and we may talk 797 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 2: about this a little bit more tomorrow, but they hosted 798 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 2: this meeting and talked about these issues, but then added 799 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 2: that if the market, if the interest rates come down, 800 00:44:54,320 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 2: they're forecast for increases, They're in forecast for u profitability, 801 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 2: and additional sales could jump up to four and a 802 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 2: half to five percent increase. So again they're saying, here's 803 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 2: what we expect it to be. But if interest rates 804 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 2: come down, here's what will happen. There'll be more people 805 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 2: spending money, more people buying houses, and so on. So again, 806 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: very important. That's why interest rates, That's why I talk 807 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 2: about that on this program a lot. Well, folks, we're 808 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 2: up against clock here. Time to step out, Stay tuned 809 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 2: for REREDI raded at the top of the hour. I'm 810 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 2: Kevin Gordon Americas struck in the network seven hundred WLW