1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Happy Thursday, Michael O'Neil. Some of us goobers just have 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: you on for background noise or to help us sleep 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: at night. But I did think I heard you say 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: something about railing against com planning about Excel shutting down 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: the power and there's just gonna be wind blowing, and 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: why are they worrying about this? Blah blah blah. And 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: now I hear the news offer station that there were fires, 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: there was damage as power outages. Are we just letting 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: that go? Are you gonna walk anto that back? 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: No? 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna walk any of it back, not at all. 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: And in fact, what Excel should be doing is strengthening 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: the grid and the transmission lines. They should be burying 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: the lines. And why all of a sudden they answered 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: this simple question for me, Why this year, three years 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: after the Marshall fire and maybe a year after their 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: settlement for hundreds of millions of dollars for a fire, 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: do we now start getting, Oh, we're going to shut 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: down the power because we don't want to cause any fires, 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: now do you? In terms of I don't know about it. 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: I've not heard of any fires, but maybe there was 22 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: because I don't pay that much attention to that kind 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: of news. Were those fires caused by excel? Were they 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: caused by campers? Were they caused by auto accidents? Were 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 3: they caused by trains? What were they caused by I'm 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 3: not walking a damn thing back about it. And if 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 3: you don't understand the point that I made about it yesterday, 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: then you go back and listen to yesterday's first hour 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: podcast about the program and then come back at me 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: and try it again. Is that what you expected Dragon 31 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: a little bit? Yeah? Yeah, okay, yeah. Crime stats something 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: that does bug me for whatever reason. Well, here's why 33 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: they occupy a very privileged place in public debate, because 34 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: one of the things that we expect out of not 35 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: so much to the federal We expect the federal government 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: to keep the country safe. And by that I mean 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: make sure that our enemies stay offshore. And they don't 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 3: always do a very good job of that, but that's 39 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: ostensibly what they should be doing. That is not the 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 3: number one job of the federal government either. By the way, 41 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: I hate it when I hear people say, you know, 42 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: the job of the federal government, or the job of 43 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 3: any government, is to keep us safe. No, that is 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: not the job of the federal government is to protect 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 3: our rights. We should be responsible for defending ourselves. Now, 46 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: we still want law enforcement because law enforcement is primarily 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: what investigative. They do investigative functions. They don't really do 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: prevention because if they did prevention, we wouldn't have auto accidents, 49 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: we wouldn't have murders, we wouldn't have burglaries, we wouldn't 50 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 3: have robberies, assaults, we wouldn't have drug abuse. So their 51 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: job really is investigatory to find out who committed a 52 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: crime so that we can then hold them accountable. So 53 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: the amount of crime is a measure by which you 54 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 3: and I can determine, particularly at a municipal level or 55 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: maybe even at a larger macro level, what is the 56 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: state doing to protect us? And crime stats should be 57 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: treated as neutral facts. As you know, they said, we 58 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: fall out of reality. That's fully formed. But crime data 59 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: is not discovered. Have you ever thought about that? Crime 60 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: data is not discovered. Crime stats are produced. They're the 61 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: product of human judgment, institutional incentives, and guess what political pressure. 62 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: So when those political pressures intensify, the accuracy of crime 63 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: stats collapses. Now what has folded inside the metropolitan Police 64 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: Department in DC under the SUNDB. I think she's resigning. 65 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: I'm not sure she's actually left yet. Pamela Smith, the 66 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: chief in d C, makes everything I just said perfectly clear. 67 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: And it also, I think to a great deal, to 68 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: a great degree, explains why Trump's federal intervention in DC 69 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: did more than just stabilize public safety in the district. 70 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: What Trump did was he exposed a deeper pathology that 71 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 3: extends across nearly every major Democrat controlled city in this country. 72 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: And I would extrapolate it out and say even every 73 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: major Democrat controlled state in this country. The House Committee 74 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: Oversight and Government Reforms interim report, which is drawn from 75 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: transcribed testimony of eight veteran Metropolitan Police Department commanders, describes 76 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: it is. It doesn't a misunderstanding, It doesn't even describe 77 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 3: a clash of management styles. What their testimony describes is 78 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: a systematic effort to shape crime stats to protect the 79 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: leadership narratives. Now, according to Swarren testimony, chief Smith fixated, 80 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: I means her chip blinders on about lowering publicly reported 81 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: crime numbers, not reduced, not actual reduction in crime numbers, 82 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: but in reducing lowering publicly reported crime numbers. Crime lower 83 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 3: crime numbers can be achieved either by making the streets safer, 84 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 3: or you can manipulate the classification systems, and the House 85 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: Oversight Committee has now concluded that Chief Smith chose the latter. 86 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: These commanders testified that the crimes were subjected to a 87 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: novel preclearance. Serious incidents were not simply logged based on 88 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: facts gathered by the cops that were doing the investigation. 89 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 3: They were elevated up to chain of command, sometimes while 90 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: officers are still actually on a scene. Why were they 91 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: elevated up to the chain of command because they wanted 92 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: the chain of command, wanted to be able to review 93 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: and have approval by the Chief's office before those stats 94 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: were put into a report. In at least one case, 95 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 3: a shooting initially classified as assault with a dangerous weapon 96 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: that was ordered to be downgraded into a lesser category, 97 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: and that category, huh guess what, it does not appear 98 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: in the city's public crime roll ups. So classification of crimes, 99 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: which traditionally follows the evidence, now has been converted into 100 00:06:54,279 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: a political approval process, and the effect huh predictable report 101 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: Where did violent crime fell? Even as people who lived 102 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: in the district. You know, there's a phrase, it drives 103 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: me nuts at you your lived experience, Well, the lived 104 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: experience the people inside the Beltway was, uh, crime seem 105 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: certainly seems to be up. And then that gets reinforced 106 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: by the aggressive use of intermediate and non public categories 107 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: gun violence incidents. If they met the statutory elements of 108 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: violent felonies, they got steered into labels such as endangerment 109 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: with a firearm. Burglaries they get broken apart into unlawful entry. 110 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: That would be one. So you have a burglary, somebody 111 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: breaks in. Oh, let's break it down. Let's break it 112 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: down into they broke in, so that's an unlawful entry. 113 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: That's a crime. And then they stole something, so let's 114 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: put that down as a crime. So burglaries get broken 115 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: apart into their subsets. Each moved removed the incident a 116 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: burglary from the headline numbers, which obviously dominate the press 117 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: coverage and dominate the political talking points. The crime didn't disappear, 118 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: It got relocated into a blind spot where you couldn't 119 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: see it or where it didn't make any difference. Oh, 120 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: it was unlawful entry. I mean if I tell you 121 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: that my home got burgled and they they stole all 122 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: the tamer's jewelry and stole all of my electronics, and 123 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 3: stole all of my vinyl and kidnapped my dogs. You 124 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 3: think that was pretty serious. But if I told you 125 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: that someone unlawfully entered my home and that's what gets 126 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: reported by you know, the local local local cops, that's okay, 127 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: somebody and lawfully entered. Or if I just report a 128 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: theft somebody stole my leaf blower, Oh well, okay, it 129 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: sucks to be you. That's a lot different than a 130 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 3: burglary because that's a break in and stealing. Well, that's 131 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: what they would do. They would take a burglary and 132 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: they break it down into those substets, and so then 133 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: when you're looking at the top line, people are like, oh, 134 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: crime's out as bad. Some people might want to claim 135 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: that well, that's just bureaucratic zealousness or over zealousness. Well, 136 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 3: the testimony before the House Oversight Committee kind of stops 137 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: that charitable interpretation because these commanders described a culture of fear, 138 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: and that fear was enforced through public humiliation and retaliation. 139 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: So mandatory crime briefings became rituals of shame. If you had, 140 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: if you were in a briefing and you were reporting 141 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 3: rising numbers, then you got attacked as well. You've personally 142 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: have failed. One commander described as say as atonements for 143 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: our sins, and then others testify that they were actually 144 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: berated in front of their peers and civilians. So those 145 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: who were reporting the bad news or questioned the classifications 146 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,119 Speaker 3: didn't found themselves transferred, They got demoted, they got sidelined, 147 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: they got they got put on a desk somewhere. Those patterns, 148 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 3: according to these witnesses, was widely understood inside the department. 149 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: So over time, you know, if if if your boss 150 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: treats something a certain way, and if you you know, 151 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 3: you're having a meeting with the boss and the boss 152 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 3: asked you, you know, how are things working, and you 153 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: talk about, well, you know, this is broken, and that's broken, 154 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: and this isn't working, and that's not working, and then 155 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: you get chewed out for reporting that. As you know, 156 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: the first time, everybody might be shocked. Second time, third time, 157 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: Oh I see a pattern. Fourth time, I'm not gonna 158 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 3: say anything. I'm not gonna say anything at all. That's 159 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: survival within the bureaucracy. That's survival within the corporate structure. 160 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: Your survival dependent upon producing the favorable dashboards that get 161 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: reported to the public. And probably what I thought, what 162 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 3: I think is probably the most damning testimony concerned truth itself. Now, 163 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 3: remember we're talking about law enforcement. Now, I know that 164 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: law enforcement can lie to you. It's constitutionally permissible for 165 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 3: law enforcement to lie. But there's a difference between lying 166 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 3: to a witness or a suspect trying to gather further information, 167 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 3: as opposed to lying on formal reports that get dispersed 168 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 3: out to the public. These commanders testify that nearly during 169 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: nearly two years of all the news stories about rising 170 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: violence inside the Beltway, the chief visited at least one 171 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: high crime district once I think one time. The leadership 172 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:07,239 Speaker 3: attention instead was overwhelmingly directed toward daily numbers and the optics. 173 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: She didn't want to sustain engagement with the officers that 174 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: were actually confronting the violence on the street. So that 175 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 3: sends a message too. The dashboard, what I have to 176 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: go put out every month or every quarter about crime stats, 177 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: that was more important than the people on the streets, 178 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: That was more important than the action the reality of 179 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: what was happening on the street. So the chairman of 180 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: the House Oversight Committee ireson Jim Comer. I think he 181 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: was absolutely right when he described Smith's resignation not as voluntary, 182 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 3: but as inevitable. Once the commanders testified under oath, the 183 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: structure collapsed. I think the Trump's decision to place the 184 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 3: Metropolitan the Police Department under federal control and then deep 185 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: deployed the DC National Guard following his August fourteenth executive 186 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 3: order in which he declared crime an emergency, I think again, 187 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: he wasn't just addressing public safety. I honestly believe that 188 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: he knew he was creating the conditions under which the 189 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: truth could surface. Because these commanders testified that the federal 190 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: surge functioned as a genuine force multiplier and it relieved 191 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: the operational strain that they were working under. And that 192 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: testimony runs head on with critics that argued that the 193 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: surge was always unnecessary and why would they Why were you, 194 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: if you remember, why were they arguing that this surge 195 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: was unnecessary? Because they kept pointing. The cabal would always 196 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: point to, oh, look the crime stats for DC are improving. Well, 197 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: wait a minute, if if those stats are engineered. Then 198 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: the policy debate that were having about crime in major 199 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: cities is built on sand, It's on shaky ground. But 200 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 3: I think there's a deeper lesson, and the deeper lesson 201 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: is a structural lesson. Crime data is vulnerable to manipulation 202 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: because of how the incentives are arranged. And we talked 203 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: about incentives a lot, subsidies and incentives, Well, an incentive 204 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: can be something other than monetary. And this is a 205 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: fairly I think familiar phenomenon. When a metric in particular 206 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: becomes the target, the metric itself itself becomes the target. 207 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: Then that metric stops measuring what it was supposed to measure. 208 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 3: And I think that policing is particularly susceptible because classification 209 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: decisions are discretionary, they're made very rapidly, and those decisions 210 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: are largely invisible to the you've you've I mean, let's 211 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: just play TV for a moment. You're you're watching a 212 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: crime series and they walk up on a crime scene 213 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: and somebody says, yeah, well we got a homicide here, 214 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: it looks like we got a wet we got a 215 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: murder case, or well, oh, when you walk up and 216 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: you get a call because you're responding to you know, 217 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton's house in Georgetown and someone's broken in. Oh, 218 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: before the press gets here, let's just call it a 219 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: lawful entry, and then we'll just describe it as some theft. 220 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: Really downplays the seriousness of the crime. And in all 221 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: those little small changes in the labels that I'm describing, 222 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: that produces a large change in the narrative. And then 223 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: when you've got those conditions, the leaders don't need to 224 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: issue the orders to falsify the data. It becomes what 225 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: I would describe as anticipatory compliance, and it works. The 226 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: subordinates learn what outcomes are rewarded with which outcomes are punished, 227 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: and so they adapt. The DC scandal matters because it's 228 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: not unique. I think it's representative. There are scores of 229 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: documented reasons that crime data cannot just be blindly trusted. 230 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: Five major city examples I think underscore how systemic and 231 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: consequential this manipulation can be. In New York City, felony 232 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: crimes are routinely maybe I should say were routinely, were 233 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: routinely downgraded or not recorded at all, under intense constat 234 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: pressure that produced an artificial narrative of declining crime, while 235 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: the victims and the cops on the street understood that 236 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: violence was actually being hidden. In Los Angeles, tens of 237 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: thousands of violent assaults get classified as just minor incidents, 238 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 3: so that cuts me the reported violent crime numbers by 239 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: more than a third, and that allows the mayor to 240 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: go out and claim progress. But that progress is ephemeral. 241 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: The progress is actually nonexistent. It certainly doesn't exist on 242 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: the street because all you've done is the crime still occurs. 243 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 3: You've just reclassified it now. Chicago officials, Chicago has presided 244 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 3: over widespread reclassification of murders and serious offenses, with crimes 245 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: literally not figuratively, literally disappearing from the books because the 246 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: mayor wanted to sustain a political storyline of dramatic crime reduction. 247 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: Philadelphia the same thing. Philadelphia actually supported thousands of sexual 248 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: assault report reports by shunting them into non crime categories 249 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 3: that falsely inflates clearance rates, and it understates the prevalence 250 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 3: of rape for years, and then that distorts public understanding 251 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: and of course the worst thing of all when it 252 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: comes to rape and denies the victims justice. Phoenix interestingly 253 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 3: illustrates the same logic in reverse, they're in Phoenix. They 254 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 3: inflated the kidnapping stats because they wanted to get additional 255 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: federal funding and political attention. So manipulation cuts both ways, 256 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: depending on the incentives. Is the incentive that you're trying 257 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 3: to get more money, because if your crime rates are down, 258 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: why would you be begging the FEDS or the state 259 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: or anybody else for more money. But if the incentive 260 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: is that, oh, you want to get more money, than 261 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 3: show the crime stats are up. Crime stats if you 262 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: believe them, hang I. 263 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: The NBC reading the inflation numbers actually audibly guessed at 264 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: how how low it is two point seven, which is 265 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: way better than expected. It's the lowest since twenty twenty one. 266 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: So for Everybay whining that Trump hasn't lowered prices, he's 267 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: crushed inflation from what Biden did to us. 268 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: There's a fascinating graph on the front page of today's 269 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal in which it shows, you know, inflation's 270 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: bouncing around, you know, two three, four percent over the past, 271 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: you know, several decades, and then we get to twenty twenty, 272 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: and then you talk about al Gore's hockey stick. It 273 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: just shoots straight up one more intended consequence in my opinion, 274 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: of the global shutdown during COVID, and then it remains 275 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 3: up during the Biden years, and then it just starts 276 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: to drop like a rock. If I don't know whether 277 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 3: I can uh pull that and make that. Are you 278 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 3: looking for that chart by chance? Dragon? Yeah? 279 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: But if it's Wall Street Journal, then they are going 280 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: to be I think. 281 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: I think though if I give the unlocked article, I 282 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 3: think that allow you to download the chart I will 283 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 3: try and find some other charts to maybe, because it 284 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 3: really is fascinating when you when you visualize it, it's 285 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: it really is amazing. Now, don't get me wrong, I 286 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 3: understand that a lot of prices of many things are 287 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: still high and it will take time if ever to 288 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: get those down. But to Alexa's point, inflation has cratered. 289 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: But the problem is your dollar has devalued, so you're 290 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 3: still spending more dollars for the same can of pork 291 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 3: and beans. That's that's where people look at prices and go, oh, 292 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 3: prices are outrageous. Globalize the adfada. Can we finally recognize 293 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: that might actually be a call for anti Jewish violence? Huh? 294 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 3: Could we possibly do that? Asking for a friend. Finally, 295 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: the left is showing some interest in freedom of speech, finally, 296 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: And all it took was for some cops to clamp 297 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: down on those cries for violence against Jews. Now they've 298 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 3: been turning a blind eye when cancel culture was running 299 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: riot on campuses think Columbia University, and when gender critical 300 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 3: women were gagged for well, just speaking the truth about biology. 301 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: And then when people lost their jobs after this thing 302 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 3: Islam but stifling jophobic speech, well that was a step 303 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 3: too far, yes, And now the left is up in arms. Well, 304 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 3: at least that's the news that the Metropolitan Police and 305 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: Greater Manchester Police have promised firmer action against chance like 306 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: globalize the Intifada. In the aftermath of the massacre of 307 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: the Jews at Bondi Beach, they said, well, the context 308 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: has changed. I don't mean to laugh, because it's a 309 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 3: serious topic, but are you freaking kidding me? So it 310 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: takes the slaughter of Jews and a couple of dirt 311 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: bags screaming globalized the end of Fada for you to 312 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: finally realize that, oh, wait a minute, this might actually 313 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: be a call to violence. So from now on, at least, 314 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 3: according to the Metropolitan Police and the Greater Manchester Cops, 315 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 3: the Greater Manchester Police. Anybody that hollers globalize the into 316 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 3: fada in a targeted way can expect to have uh 317 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: cuffs put on you. And it's happened. Two people were 318 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: arrested in London last night for racially aggravated public order 319 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 3: offenses after allegedly I'll just use the word allegedly bellowing 320 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: for globalizing the in nevada. Overnight, the digital left has 321 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: gone from cafalling over the cancelation of feminists who say 322 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: you can't have a penis and be a lesbian, to 323 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: now they're wringing their hands over Britain's descent into Spasi 324 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: like lunacy. We're being censored. There wailing we're being censored. 325 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: Let me say this, if your supposed love of liberty 326 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: and freedom of speech only kicks in the gear when 327 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 3: anti Jewish speech is curtailed, I don't think it's freedom 328 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: of speech that you really love. It's hunting Jews. You're 329 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: not defending the British people's hard worn, hard won liberty 330 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: to unter or to speak. You're defending the right of 331 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: a noisy mob in Kafia's to cause really great distress 332 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: to Jews in London by barking for more intifadas just 333 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 3: two years after an Intifada left more than one thousand 334 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 3: Jews dead in Israel. Again, let me be perfectly clear, globalized, 335 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: the Intifada is a call for anti Jewish violence. An 336 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 3: apologist for that hateful slogan say that Intafada just means 337 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: an uprising. It's just an uprising, and then they point 338 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: to images of of course, Palestinian kids that are throwing 339 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 3: stones at the Israeli defense forces during the first Intafada 340 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: of the late nineteen eighties, and then the BBC joins 341 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: in too. The first into Fada was quote a largely 342 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: unarmed and popular uprising. That is a spectacularly reductive understanding 343 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 3: of the first Intifada. And I think more importantly that 344 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: into Fada was nearly forty years ago. Most of the 345 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 3: Israel haters in the Islamo left freak showing they're out 346 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 3: on the streets right now weren't even alive at that time. 347 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: And in the intervening decades, and the Fada has come 348 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: to mean one thing, and one thing only, apocalyptic violence 349 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: against Jews carried out by armies of anti Semites. Now, 350 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: the Second Intifada was really an orgy of fascist like violence. 351 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 3: Hundreds of Israeli civilians were burned to death in nightclubs, 352 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 3: pizza restaurants, hotels. They got blown up by bus, blown 353 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: up on buses, they got gunned down. And their crime, oh, 354 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 3: their crime was they were Jews in the Holy Land. 355 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: Hamas is an Islamo fascist outfit founded with the express 356 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: intention It's in their mission statement. I again, I don't 357 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 3: mean to laugh, but Hamas has a mission statement. You know, 358 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 3: their mission statement is the annihilation of the Jewish nation. 359 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: And so then Hamas acted on their Nazi like dream 360 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: with its racist violence of the seconda You ought to 361 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: be very wary of anybody who downplays the fact that 362 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 3: this more recent Infada, it lasted until two thousand and five, 363 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 3: consisted of ceaseless acts of Islama savagery. And then you 364 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 3: fast forward to October seven, considered by some to be 365 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: an Intelfada, that was the worst mass murder of Jews 366 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: since the Holocaust. So do they expect us to believe 367 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: that when leftists and Islamis hit the streets in the 368 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 3: wake of that atrocity and said globalize the intefada that 369 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: they were talking about some harmless stone throwing from the 370 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: nineteen eighties. Are we really that stupid? 371 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 4: Good morning, Michael Brown. I like when we're making fun 372 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: of people talking about the weather, because I'm really sick 373 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 4: of people seriously talking about the weather because I am 374 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 4: just observing the weather and it's really really cold. Blah 375 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 4: blah blah, Alaska. Here's what I want to say, Michael, 376 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 4: and dragging. This one's for you. Get on with it. Dragon. 377 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 3: I were laughing about the talk back about the fires 378 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 3: those You think, you're not sure, but you think most 379 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 3: of those fires right on the Eastern Plain. Yeah, yeah, 380 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: so toss cigarette, freight train, spark from a car, any 381 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: number of things going to cause those fires. Yeah, but 382 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: up where they were really worried about it. No, No, 383 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: not at all. Back to globalize the antifada. And by 384 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: the way, we're sorry that it's cold up there, and 385 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: now so I dont get dark too. You're not sorry 386 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: at all we were talking about I just like to 387 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 3: lie to a JAG officer. Fair enough, okay for anybody 388 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: to say globalize the end of fada after October seventh, 389 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: I think what you're doing is you're really relishing in 390 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: the mass killing of Jews, and then to shout glory 391 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: to our martyrs, as some of the radicals on the 392 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 3: campuses did. That's praising the racist killers. It is Hamas. 393 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: And then if you're chanting from the River to the Sea, 394 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 3: you're expressing support for Hamas's dream of truly annihilating, eradicating 395 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 3: the world's only Jewish nation. And now they're doing it 396 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 3: again after the massacre at Bondi yesterday. The youngest victim 397 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 3: of that at anti Semitic horror, ten year old Matilda, 398 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: was barry. At the same time, people in London were 399 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: chanting globalized the Intifada. The rules of journalistic decorum really, 400 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 3: or actually the FCC rules don't allow me to say 401 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: what I think about those people, because for those of 402 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: us who really do believe in free speech for everyone, 403 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: those arrests are nothing to celebrate. But here here's the thing. 404 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: Jews had been begging you to stop chanting friends of Fauda, 405 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: and then you ignored them, and worse, you accuse them 406 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: of weaponizing their feelings, trying to end to the end 407 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 3: of silencing any criticism of Israel. You accuse them of 408 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: cynicism and self interest, a charge the Left never lays 409 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: in the door of any other ethnic minority. If you 410 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: had listened to Jews, if you would consider them your equals, 411 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: deserving your respect, you wouldn't be in that situation. It 412 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: should not have taken police action to stop the chant 413 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: to globalize the end of Fauda. The Left should have 414 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 3: had the decency to retire that sick, bigoted chant when 415 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 3: the Jews asked them to do so in the first place. 416 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: But you didn't. I don't know what. I don't even 417 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 3: know what the context was of Dragon I talking talking 418 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: about crime, talking about crime, and I and I mentioned 419 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,959 Speaker 3: that this morning the now America's Newsroom, that's the name 420 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 3: of the show, America's Newsroom. That's what I now hear 421 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: when I drive into the studio in the morning on 422 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: Fox on Sirius. And I was astonished. Take that back. 423 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: I wasn't stoanished. I was disheartened that the first three 424 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 3: or four news stories were crime stories. You have Brown University, 425 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: you had the Rob Reiner and his wife's murder, Nick Reiner, 426 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 3: you had Bondi Beach and oh then the the scientists 427 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 3: from m I T that was murdered in Boston or 428 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: Cambridge wherever he lived. Those were the four lead stories. 429 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 3: And much like you talk about the weather, when it 430 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: comes to the crime, I'm kind of like the same 431 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: with weather, I am about the crime. 432 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 4: Move on, move on. 433 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: It's not like other people don't get murdered or other 434 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 3: people don't get assassinated. But here we seem to or 435 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: the left seems to want to ignore that it's racist, 436 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: it's anti semitic. And while the other speech you still 437 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 3: want to clamp down on. When the Manchester cops finally 438 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: clamp down on globalizing the ind of FADA, you hmm, 439 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: you're picking and choosing, because globalizing the into FADA really 440 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: is an incitement to violence, and that speech. Forget that 441 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: it's Manchester. Let's just think about the little old USA. 442 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 3: Speech that incites violence is not protected. Oh you can 443 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 3: say it, but it's not protected.