1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: About where we're at right now. It's Friday, it's since 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: e three sixty. For the next three hours, we're here 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: on the home of the Bengals, ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Sports station, thanks to our friends at Skyline Chili. There 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: is a lot we need to discuss today. There's a 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: lot we need to get to. We'll do so with 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: multiple guests this afternoon. Charlie Goldsmith in his normal Friday 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: slot at one o'clock. Bob man Jean from the University 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati and Novacare will join us in hour three, 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: and based on everything that's happened in the last twenty 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: four hours or so, I thought it'd be good to 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: talk to our good friend from the Lockdown Reds podcast, 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Jeff Carr, is going to join us at the top 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: of our number three. Those are your guests for the 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: day today. We also have talkbacks coming up in our 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: number two in their normal slots, or go to the 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app if you haven't already, hit that microphone and 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: leave us at talkback. We'll get to those in our 19 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: number two. We have some NFL to sift through today. 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: We will we'll make some picks. 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: When do we start we were talking about food again. 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: That's a good question. They had some food that you 23 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: had before the show today that what I said yesterday 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: might not hold true. I don't think there was a price. 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: A look on your face when a plate of sushi 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: that Scott Sloane and I were devouring eating like cave men. 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: There are things, there were things with that that I 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: don't like. I'm not a big bacon guy. And when 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: I say I'm not a big bacon guy, I'm not 30 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: a bacon guy at all. I don't eat bacon. In fact, 31 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: last night I went to an establishment. We had some 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: potato skins. I picked the bacon off the potato skins 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: before I ate them. 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: What did you call them? 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: Potato skins? 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: Potato skins? 37 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: Potato skins. Now, the bacon wasn't the bad part. It 38 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: was bacon and sushi together, and you and Scott Sloan 39 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: took to that plate as if you've not seen a 40 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: meal between the two of you in weeks. 41 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,639 Speaker 2: If you go look at my instagram still at audio More, 42 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: there is a photo of what Scott and I housed. 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: Every single piece of sushi on that plate was eaten 44 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: by Scott Sloan and myself except for one which was 45 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: another coworker had Wow, we put on a performance. Shout 46 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: out to you guys. Yeah, that's now. I'm I'm juiced, 47 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: I'm ready to go. I'm gonna say I got a 48 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: coke zero. 49 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: Wow. 50 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: The Reds made a trade to trade actually, and now 51 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: we're going. And then we get to complain about the 52 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 2: Dodgers today, which I'm I like doing that. 53 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: We we get to do a lot of that today 54 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: before we dive into the meat of what's happening. Also, 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: give a shout out to the Norse n KU in 56 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: dominant fashion last night Austin rolled over. Now they've got 57 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: a quick turnaround. They're gonna play tomorrow as well against 58 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: Robert Morris. 59 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: But NK Yourris, the team that was shaving points against 60 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: them last time they played. So you gotta wonder at 61 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: this point how different of a team is it going 62 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 2: to be? How different are they? How different are the bets? 63 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: Maybe that will come in this year as well. Last 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: night for NKU ninety six seventy one, they showed no 65 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 2: mercy to Detroit Mercy and. 66 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: They were led by L. J. Wells thirty five. Last night, 67 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: He's a Beast. 68 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: It was easy. 69 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: It was thirty five on like eleven of fifteen shooting. 70 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: Too easy, eleven of thirteen from the line as well. 71 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: Lance McCallister added last earlier today that l. J. Wells 72 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: is just the second player in college basketball this year 73 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: Austin to record thirty five points, seven boards, three assists 74 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: in one turnover or less on seventy percent shooting. He 75 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: joins Cam Boozer from. 76 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: Duke Carlos's son. Yes Yeah. 77 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: Also shout out to the Norse, the only D one 78 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: basketball team with four players averaging fourteen points per game 79 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: this year. 80 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: You want to talk about just filling it up. Balance, 81 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: That's what the Nord's still balance. There's some teams around 82 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: here that would kill for. 83 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: That type of offense. You ain't kidding offensive output, You 84 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: ain't kidding if you will the Norse role. They're back 85 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: again tomorrow. Xaviers off this weekend. They play at Creighton 86 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: on Wednesday of next week, and the Kentucky Wildcats head 87 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: to Knoxville to take on the Tennessee Volunteers. And you 88 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: see welcome's number two ranked Iowa State tomorrow at two o'clock. 89 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: Some good news here for our friend Rose Levell. How 90 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: about this, Rose Levell has been named the United States 91 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: Soccer Female Player of the Year WOW twenty twenty five. 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: She was voted this She had twenty nine point two 93 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: percent of the weighted vote, followed by Sam Coffee and 94 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: Katerina mcamacario. The voters for the award were collected from 95 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: US national team coaches, national team players, members of the 96 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: US Soccer Board of Directors, the US Soccer Athletes counsel 97 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: sational Women's Soccer League, head coaches, select media members, administrators. 98 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: All of that to say, even though rose Levell missed 99 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: much of the first half of the year due to 100 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: an ankle injury, she still scored three goals in six appearances, 101 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: added three assists, and was a monster for Gotham in 102 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: the NWSL. Congrats to US Women's Soccer Player of the 103 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: Year for twenty twenty five. 104 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: That is awesome stuff from Rose level. Congratulations are in 105 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: order for her. We'll spend some time today on the 106 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: National Football League, the Divisional Round. We'll talk a little 107 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: bit about the College Football National Championship. We'll make some 108 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: picks respectively for those games. There was also Austin. I 109 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: thought it was a pretty disturbing video of the cam 110 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: Taylor Britt accident the night before the Pittsburgh game. I 111 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 1: mean talked about that yesterday. Yeah, Cam Taylor BRIT's lucky 112 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: that that him and no one else in that car 113 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: got hurt. The video footage is awful, a good look 114 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: for Cam Taylor Britt or or anyone else. 115 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: Were you here yesterday when we talked about that, maybe 116 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: we described the video, We had the whole conversation. 117 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: All I remember about yesterday's food, Okay, that's it. All 118 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: I remember going into today is that there were moves 119 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: made in Major League Baseball last night, and I thought 120 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: it was quite funny because Jeff Passing had the coverage 121 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: on both. And oh, it feels like it feels like 122 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: that Kyle Tucker News kind of got drowned out by 123 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: what the Reds did. 124 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: Well, here's another big one. Oh, another domino has fallen 125 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball free agency. Oh you know, ton 126 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people have thought, come on down, Red 127 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: Now that the Reds moved on from Gavin Lux, that 128 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: might clear a path for Bo Boschett to come. 129 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: To the Queen saying, no, where's he going. 130 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: Sources tell The Athletic that Bo Bashett is in agreement 131 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: on a three year deal being physical with the New 132 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: York Mets. Okay, the Metropolitans have landed Bo Boshitt. They 133 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: were in the running till the very end on Kyle Tucker. 134 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: They miss out on him and they switched to Bo Bushitt. 135 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: All right. 136 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: You may remember his father Dante played for the Rets. 137 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: Okay, shout out to shout out to the Mets then 138 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 1: making something happen. 139 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So why do you say it like that about 140 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 2: the Mets, But then everybody gets all honked off about 141 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: the Dodgers. 142 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm not as honked off about the Dodgers. Abody. 143 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: People think that, you know, the Mets, they'll find a 144 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: way to screw it up. 145 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: No, I mean I'm I'm I'm not as upset at 146 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: the Dodgers as I think the majority of people are. 147 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: Okay, explain yourself, Oh. 148 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: The Dodgers last night, if you missed this, the Dodgers 149 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: sign the top reigning free agent Kyle Tucker. They're going 150 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: to give him what sixty million over four years? Sixty 151 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: million a year over four years. I I look the 152 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: evil Empire the Dodgers TV deal in the way that's 153 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: set up, it does give them I think an advantage 154 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: in working these deals out. But I'm not going to 155 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: ever ever harp or or criticize a team, an organization, 156 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: a franchise for spending a lot of money. It's something 157 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: that we have begged the teams here to do at 158 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: a smaller scale for years, especially the Cincinnati Reds. So 159 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: I can't sit here every time we talk about the 160 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: Red Side wish he'd spend money. I wish he's spend money, 161 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: and then turn around and talk about the Dodgers and say, 162 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: screw the Dodgers, man, they're spending all too much money. Like, 163 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: I get it. Their lineup is ridiculous. The amount of 164 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: money they have invested into that lineup is ridiculous. It's 165 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: an all star team in itself. I get all that. 166 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: I hate that it's like that. I think the way 167 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: their TV deal is set as opposed to other TV 168 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: deals around Major League Baseball, I think that gives them 169 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of an advantage. But I can't sit 170 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: here and say, man, I hate the Dodgers and what 171 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: they've done because they're spending money. 172 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of people have turned the 173 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: dislike or the frustration and pointed it directly at the Dodgers, 174 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: and I think you're right. I think that's misguided. I 175 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: think it should primarily be at the lack of I 176 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't want to say rules, but like 177 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: there's just a complete lack of parody that's been set 178 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: up and by Major League Baseball. There's nothing to be 179 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: done about it. And to the Dodgers' credit, they make 180 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: the most of what they you know, can and in 181 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: a way this benefits the Reds. The more teams go 182 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: over the salary the luxury tax, the more that it's 183 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: distributed to the rest of the other teams. I get it. 184 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, the issue is more with major League Baseball 185 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: and less with the Dodgers. The Dodgers just played by 186 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: the rules that are out there. 187 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: The Dodgers are again, they're not breaking major League Baseball rules. 188 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: If you want to be mad, be mad at Baseball, 189 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: Be mad at the commissioner, now be mad in that censor. 190 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: Be mad at your own team for not spending. I'm 191 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: not saying every team is going to be to spend 192 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: like the Dodgers, and that's where a lot I think 193 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: the anger comes from. But I'm not in a position, 194 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: as I shout from the mountaintops. Every time we talk 195 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: about the Reds, please spend money, Please spend money. I 196 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: can't turn around and say, man, screw the Dodgers because 197 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: they're spending too much money. 198 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. I was thinking about this earlier. 199 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant right leaves Oklahoma City and goes to the 200 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors and wins a championship with them, and 201 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: KD has always kind of been seen afterwards as a villain, 202 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: as a trader, as a guy who is just chasing 203 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: a ring. Should there be more of that directed at 204 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: the players in baseball? Like Kyle Tucker goes to a 205 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: team full of all stars that just won the World 206 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: Series in back to back years, but yet there's no 207 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: real criticism of Kyle Tucker. It's more criticism of the 208 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: system or criticism of the team, and again, go get 209 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: your money, do what's best for you with your family. 210 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: I get all that, but like, should there be any 211 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: of it aimed at the player? I think, because you 212 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: are kind of making it worse for all the. 213 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: Other teams in a way, I think to an extent, Okay, 214 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: but I think there's a. 215 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's fair, but I was just 216 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: I had that thought this morning. 217 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, Kyle Tucker last year hit 218 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: two sixty six. You know who hit better than him, 219 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Lucks. So don't We're gonna get started on that 220 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: in just the second Kevin. But like for me, Kyle 221 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: Tucker was with the Astros. He is, He's had a 222 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: good career. Then he goes to the Cubs. He's a 223 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: four time All Star. He is a very decorated player already. 224 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: It's not like it's not like he played on a 225 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: terrible team for all of his career and then he's 226 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: chasing a ring towards the end. He's played on some 227 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: good teams. Hey, if you're Kyle Tucker and you're getting 228 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: sixty million dollars guaranteed a year to go play baseball, 229 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: you're going to take the biggest offer. So happens to 230 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: be with the best team in baseball right now. But again, 231 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: and I think you put it well, the anger should 232 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: not be directed at the Dodgers, and I know it will. 233 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: The anger should be sent to how Major League Baseball 234 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: operates and allows this to operate, and send some anger 235 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: to your organization as well. If they're not spending the 236 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: money to be competitive now, not to be outdone, because 237 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: right after the news of Kyle Tucker broke last night, 238 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: the news of this broke a three way trade. Tampa Bay, 239 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: Cincinnati and the Los Angeles Angels in agreement on a 240 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: deal that sent out fielder Josh lo to the Angels, 241 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: infielder Gavin Lux and right hander Chris Clark to the 242 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Rays, and left handed reliever Brock Burke to 243 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: the Reds. That means Austin, the confirmation is there of 244 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: all we need. Yesterday we spend time on the show 245 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: talking about Amir Garrett and we said, does this team 246 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: have another left handed reliever? They need to get a 247 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: left handed reliever. Nick Krawl listens, he goes and gets Brock. 248 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: He gets the job done. Now we're gonna talk to 249 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: Charlie Goldsmith about this today, we're gonna talk about what 250 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: Nick Krawl had to say about this. We're gonna talk 251 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: about this with Jeff Carr. This better indicate that another 252 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: move for a bat is incoming for the Reds and 253 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: I think it does, and we'll expand more on that. 254 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of people Austin that just 255 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: kind of haphazardly dismissed Gavin Lucks. Like, all right, they 256 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: moved on from Gavin Lucks. Good. Gavin Luck's the best fielder. No, 257 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: he does play multiple positions. He's a DH. But listen 258 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: to these numbers, Austin. He had the fifth most of 259 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: bats on the team last year, so he wasn't viewed 260 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: as just a part time player for the Reds. He 261 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: had the fifth most of bats. 262 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: He played in a career high one hundred and forty games. 263 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: Let played in a career high in the last game 264 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: of the year, playoff game number two against the Dodgers, 265 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: a must win game. Gavin Lucks hit in the three 266 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: hole tells you what they viewed Gavin lux and his 267 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: ability to have at bats. We talked about hitting all 268 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: the time on this team. Gavin Lucks had the fourth 269 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: highest on base percentage out of anyone on the Reds. 270 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: He was second in doubles behind Elie de la Cruz, 271 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: and he had the highest batting average of any red 272 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: last year at two sixty nine. That's three points higher 273 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: than Kyle Tucker. So again, I get it. This pitching 274 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: staff is going to be really good. The bullpen has 275 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: been revamped. I love all of all of it, But 276 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: don't act like they just got rid of a run 277 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: of the mill average hitter. Gavin Lux is a good hitter. 278 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: Gavin Lux puts together professional at bats in big time moments, 279 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: and he was very good throughout the course of the 280 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: year consistently for the Cincinnati Reds as a hitter last 281 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: year for a team that we've talked all offseason, Austin 282 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: needs more hitting. 283 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, as I mentioned, it was a career high one 284 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: hundred and forty games. He had career best one hundred 285 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: and twenty hits, twenty eight double, fifty three RBI, fifty 286 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: six walks, and that three point fifty on base percentage. 287 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: Who was on base for a total of one hundred 288 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: and seventy six times. All of those career highs for 289 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: Gavin Luck. So he's coming off one of the best years, 290 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: if not the best year of his career altogether. If 291 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: you remember, one of the reasons they brought him in 292 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: was to be a bit of a veteran in a 293 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: clubhouse full of young players. Gavin Lux had won the 294 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: World Series with the Dodgers and had played in some 295 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: big postseason games and had that experience, and they coupled 296 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: that with Jose Travino to try to be the veteran 297 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: alongside Terry Francona, and so now they move on from him, 298 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: And I think the issue is just based off the 299 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: way the rest of the team is built. They don't 300 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: have a place where they feel comfortable playing him every day. 301 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: And I seem to hear a lot of people thinking 302 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: trading Gavin Lux means the Reds will now go and 303 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: get some sort of bat to replace him offensively. I'm 304 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: not buying that. I don't believe that. I don't believe 305 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: that's in their plans. I think this was another way 306 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: for them to shed two and a half million dollars. 307 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: And I think they're all in on pitching and defense. 308 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: And I understand why, based off the lineups that are 309 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: being put together in New York and Los Angeles, why 310 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: you'd want to play good defense and have good pitching. 311 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: But you look at the guys out there, I don't 312 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: really feel like there's anybody who's going to come in 313 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: here and completely change this team. Maybe you go and 314 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: get Miguel Andohar back. Maybe you go and get Austin 315 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: Hayes back. Does that change everything? 316 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: No, I've already seen that that's my thing, Like they 317 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: got something else? What other move can they make right 318 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: now that would say, Man, that's a big splash, right. 319 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that's out there. 320 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: I had a buddy text me today when he woke 321 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: up and saw the news about the Reds, who said, 322 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna lose every game zero to minus one. 323 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 4: It's good. 324 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: That's kind of how it feels. It's just like, where 325 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: is the offense gonna come froll Kearck. 326 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: Croche and Ranger Suarez the first two games. 327 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: Of the year at all likelyhood Well left that thing 328 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: is that we've got a bunch of right handers in 329 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: the for the Red League. But like you know, I'm 330 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: just I'm already ready to hear Okay, well, Matt McLean's 331 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: gonna be better, and Eli mccruz is gonna be better. 332 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: I'm not ready for that. 333 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: It's gonna be. This is gonna be a grinded out season, man, 334 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: it really is. Every single game is gonna feel like 335 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: it takes forever, and it's gonna be late. You know, 336 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 2: it's gonna be close late in the seventh, eighth, and ninth, 337 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: And with the way the bullpens arranged, maybe that gives 338 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: a chance the Reds a chance to win more of 339 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 2: those games. 340 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: Maybe, but golly, maybe we need. 341 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: We need them to. Like, really, I don't we need 342 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 2: a humid summer where the ball is really flying out 343 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 2: of the ballpark. 344 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: You don't want American bark turns into here. That's what 345 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 346 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna get lucky. 347 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, we we do have a little audio from 348 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: Terry Francona with Caleb No, we'll get to Uh. 349 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: Of course, I'm gonna be saying that. 350 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: You have your phone calls five, one, three, seven, four, nine, 351 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. We'll get to those to start. Uh. Probably 352 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: after the twelve thirty break, we'll have a little Terry 353 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: Francona audio react to that, and we'll talk a little 354 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: about Redsfest tonight and tomorrow as well. All still ahead, 355 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: We're just getting started. Sincy three sixty ESPN, fifteen thirty, 356 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports Station. 357 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 5: Now Ben Carrol on the left wing brap dribble on 358 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 5: Coward spends it. So now Ben Carrol way brap ribble Howard. 359 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: Right there that was spent. 360 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: In the Berlin Games. 361 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 6: The one. 362 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 3: Now Ben Carrol on the leg way Brad ribble Howard 363 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: in the country is little putting mc griggs. 364 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: Lose on a postal. I heard now Ben Carrol on 365 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: the left radio call of this. I couldn't find it anywhere, 366 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: but he said it was an international incident. Oh oh 367 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: like this, this might be it right here, hold on, 368 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: this is Anthony Black. 369 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he dunked on the whole team. 370 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: Are you ready for this? 371 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, here we go, here we go, No 372 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: with turnover, take that with you. Anthony dover pretty much 373 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: the whole team and uh yeah. 374 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: The magic radio call described that as a international incident. 375 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: Love it, love it red fast. Yeah. Shout out to 376 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: our friends at wind Shoulders and they're fantastic cheese spreads. 377 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: Sharp Cheddar, I'm in a sharp Cheddar mood today. 378 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: About the spreads of those college basketball games. 379 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: We'll get to those as well. We'll get to some 380 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: of the spreads. 381 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty six million for three years, boba shitt. 382 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: We'll get to some of the spreads for the NFL 383 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: divisional round as well. But thanks to our friends that 384 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: wind Shoulders Reds Fest is back. 385 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 386 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: Now for those listening that are getting to head down 387 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: to the newly renovated convention Center. Maybe tomorrow or even tonight. 388 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: There's a special surprise. If you're heading down the night, 389 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: you might be able to run into Austin Ellmore down there. 390 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: Oh is that real? 391 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: Are you going? Is that right? You're going? 392 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 2: I'm gonna see how the weather is when I leave here. 393 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: I don't get off work until six o'clock, and I 394 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: know it's supposed to. 395 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: Get We're talking about less than an inch. 396 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: I know, but there's supposed to be rain and ice 397 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: and all that. I had to I don't know if 398 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 2: I shared this yesterday woke up, I get halfway to 399 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: the gym yesterday morning, car starts beeping at me. Hey, 400 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 2: your tire's low, Oh, I said mother. So I've go 401 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: and filled, you know, put the air into tires and 402 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: all that, and everything's been fine ever since. It was 403 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: just maybe that cold air. I don't know what's going on, 404 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: but I know I need new tires soon and my 405 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: car is going to explode soon. 406 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. 407 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: I have a Hyundai Sonata. Yeah, and I'm over one 408 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: hundred thousand miles. And for those that listen that are 409 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: car people, you know the Hyundai Sonata after like one 410 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen hundred and twenty thousand miles. The engine 411 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: just explodes like there's a whole warrant, it's a whole 412 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: dark thing. So I'm just kind of waiting on that 413 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: to happen, and I don't want to push it during 414 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 2: Bad Leather, but. 415 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: You potentially could see Austin at Reds faster. 416 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: I'll probably be there. 417 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: Hey, you did mention. I saw that that you wanted 418 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: to give a shout out that you're not hitting as 419 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: many potholes as you once did. Yeah. 420 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 2: I don't know who to thank for this. I mean, 421 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: I'm still mad at AFTAB for cursing the Bengals, but 422 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: it's been nice to not hit as many potholes. 423 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: Nice. 424 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 2: Have you noticed that where you're at? 425 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 5: I really have? 426 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: Okay, you know what someone else mentioned, and this might 427 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: be we might be going really strong conspiracy early in 428 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: the show. All Right. I saw someone I asked the 429 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: other day, like, growing up, you traveled twenty thirty minutes 430 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: in the car, felt like your windshield was full of bugs. Nowadays, 431 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: I don't remember the last time I saw bugs smashing 432 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: on my windshield. Why is that? Why are there less 433 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: bugs and insects flying? Well? 434 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: A ton in the winter time. Number one. Number two, 435 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: I think. 436 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: You need the environment helps the environment. 437 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 2: Well, maybe things change, Yeah, they're probably back in the day. 438 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: They're probably it used to be this used to be 439 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: probably unsustainable planet with the amount of bugs that were 440 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: flying around. And now you got infrastructure and you know, 441 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: chemicals in the air. He knows what's out their habitat. 442 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 2: You know, I mean, we got what's going to happen. 443 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: We got tissue injuries because there's plants next to the 444 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: forty nine ers facility. Now there's no bugs flying away. 445 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: I thought we got to the bottom of that. There's 446 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: like lead walls that prevent that from being a thing. 447 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't trust it. Here's what I 448 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: do trust. Reds Fest will be a fun time whatever, man, 449 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: regardless of what the Reds have done or not done 450 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: up to this point, or maybe what they're waiting to do. 451 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: Actually am excited to check it out. 452 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: Reds Fest is always always awesome and uh they put 453 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: together a great, great thing with current and former players 454 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: and managers and radio personalities. It's it's awesome. If you've 455 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: not been, you do need to go try it. It's 456 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: today and tomorrow at the newly renovated Convention Center down there, 457 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: so Terry Francona will be there. Terry Francona caught up 458 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: with Caleb No, So shout out to Caleb no for 459 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: getting this audio. But Terry here he is Tito the 460 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: Magnificent talking about the uh possibility of acquiring or a 461 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: potential bat and his collaboration with the front office. 462 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 7: Well, I know when I was at the ballparks, and 463 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 7: I know they're always trying to get better, but you know, 464 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 7: there's everybody has their own guidelines, stipulations, you know, parameters, 465 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 7: and I don't spend a whole lot of time worrying 466 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 7: about what we don't have. My job is to take 467 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 7: who we have and see how good we can play. 468 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 7: So that's kind of what I've spent my time on. 469 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 7: I don't get too worried about all the other what 470 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 7: ifs and is this you know, because like I said, 471 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 7: I got a certain amount of energy and I want 472 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 7: to use it the appropriate way with our guys. 473 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 8: Okay, how much collaboration is there between you and the 474 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 8: front office in terms of moves that are made specifically 475 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 8: in the off season. 476 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 7: It's really good. It's not just during I mean they're 477 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 7: down in my office every day and we don't really 478 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 7: have that meetings because we talk all the time. And 479 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 7: that was a big reason that I wanted to come here, 480 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 7: was because of Nick and Brad the way they you know, 481 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 7: we hit it off that first meeting, and then when 482 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 7: you're around people for a year, like I said, it's meaningful, 483 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 7: Like we will sit there some nights after a game 484 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 7: for one or two hours just talking and you don't 485 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 7: have to have a meeting because I kind of know 486 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 7: how we feel. Yes, exactly, Organically it works. 487 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: Okay, it organically works focused on what they do have 488 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: and how to make the most of them. That's an 489 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: easy way of just saying we don't have much. 490 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: It is his job, isn't it. Yes, he's not the 491 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: guy getting the players. 492 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: Yes, that was a fully what I thought and expected 493 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: him to say. 494 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 2: Do you think he struggles to sleep at night thinking 495 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: about how he's gonna score runs? 496 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: He should? He should? 497 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: I would like to know, does a team that just 498 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: offensively doesn't have a lot of juice like this one, 499 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: is Terry Francona going to be more willing to be 500 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: aggressive on the base pass, oh to try to scratch 501 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: across more runs because you don't have maybe the power 502 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: threats that you've had in the past you don't have. 503 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: Yet they won't they won't be getting those players. I 504 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: would love to be proven wrong. I would love for 505 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 2: it to happen tonight while I'm at Reds Fest, and 506 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: I'll go up and shake Nickkral's hand. But like, is 507 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: that going to change your philosophy at all? Because that 508 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: I think a lot of Reds fans, understandably were bothered 509 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: by the fact that that that seemed to be Francona's 510 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: strategy was neutralizing what was a strength of the previous 511 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: team and they made it to the playoffs, and there's 512 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 2: something to that. But also, if you're offensively challenged, Ken 513 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: being more aggressive on the base paths helped that. And 514 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure you know Ellie with the as Terry described it, 515 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: he had a leg yep that probably brings down there 516 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: team numbers a little bit, But I just wonder about that. Yeah, 517 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: and Matt McClain couldn't get on base at all, But. 518 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's fair to to and curious to 519 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: see how that's going to play out. But something has 520 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: to change. By the way, one more on Bob Baschett. 521 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: Listen to this from Bob Nightingale. The Phillies had agreed 522 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: to Bob Baschett's request seven year, two hundred million dollar 523 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: deal last night. That is about twenty eight million per year. 524 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: That the Phillies said, yeah, we're good with that. They 525 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: believed it would happen. And then late last night, Kyle 526 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: Tucker goes to the Dodgers. So the Mets come in, 527 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: they go three year, one twenty six. That takes that 528 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 1: twenty eight mil per year Austin and bumps it up 529 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: to forty two mil per year. Yeah. Also four less 530 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: years on the deal, so he's gonna be able to 531 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: hit free agency again. Yeah. So just a little bit 532 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: of the back and forth there and how the Mets. 533 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: You know, the Reds said they were in on Kyle 534 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: schwarbur and then the folks said, well then they should 535 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: pivot and go elsewhere. The Mets pivoted, went elsewhere, and 536 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: they landed Bobachette. 537 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 2: Today, I don't know why they didn't the Reds didn't 538 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: go after Boba Schett. I mean, Dante played here, so 539 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: clearly opportunity to to trot Cincinnatis. Yeah, I mean you 540 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: think Boba sheet. Since Kyle Tucker like an Edibull arrange. 541 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: Probably type. 542 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: Probably you think Phillies feel the fans feel the fine. 543 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: Maybe what are they met about? They got they got. 544 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: Schwarbur Philly fans are interesting, they're fanatics the future of 545 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: Bryce Harper. Seen any of that discourse in the season. 546 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, By the way, last year Austin Bobachett in the 547 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: postseason was awesome. They three fifty in the postseason. 548 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: He is a really good player. 549 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: He also three eleven in the regular season. Just again, 550 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: let me bring this back. Kyle Tucker at two sixty six, 551 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: bobashed hit three eleven met should feel pretty good about 552 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: what they were able to do. We'll take a break, 553 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: we'll come back. We'll go to the phone lines five one, three, seven, 554 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: four nine, fifteen thirty at Sincy three sixty thanks to 555 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: Skyline Chile on ESPN fifteen thirty found Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 556 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: Welcome back since he three sixty a Friday edition here 557 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. We've got quite 558 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: a few calls we need to try to get to here. 559 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's see if we can do this in 560 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: an orderly fashion. Here, let's start. What's up. 561 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 9: Jt Hey buddy, I know why there are less insects 562 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 9: that are smashed into here one shield? 563 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 10: This is, this is. 564 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: I just need to know this stuff. I'm curious. 565 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 11: Okay. 566 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 9: So back when you and I were growing up, I'm 567 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 9: a little bit older than you, but cars did not 568 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 9: have the same engineering. There was no aerodynamic design within 569 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 9: the windshield, so it was more like a ninety degree 570 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 9: angle that these windshields were on. Therefore, at gotten more 571 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 9: bugs and insects the crush on the one shield. I 572 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 9: for example, I drive a really old school Jupe Wrangler, 573 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 9: which the windshield is on a ninety degree angle, and dude, 574 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 9: spring summer, I have to go and stop at the 575 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 9: gas station and wash the bugs and off off my windshield. So, 576 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 9: Tony Austin, the more you know. 577 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: The more you grow a thank you so much, man. 578 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: We appreciate that. Yeah, you know, that's why we ask. 579 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: Makes me think. I have a friend who used to 580 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: have a hummer and bugs ever I could bear. I 581 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: had to drive it one day I could barely see 582 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: out of the windshield. Yeah, now that I think about it, 583 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: ninety degree angle. You know, my never my dad used 584 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: to we we'd be driving and and there'd be you know, 585 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: a big bug sure right on the windshield. And he 586 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: would say, boy, that takes guts. Have you ever or 587 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: or he'd say the last thing to go through his 588 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: mind was his butt. 589 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: Have you have you ever seen a uh, have you 590 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: ever seen a friend of yours go into a windshield 591 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: or maybe the front of a car. Let's take another call, maso, 592 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: what's going on? 593 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 12: Say Tony Hattie, what's going on? 594 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 11: Thanks for calling me back? 595 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 13: What up? 596 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: Masa? 597 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 5: May you know about that? 598 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: Have you ever gone through a windshield? 599 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: You know about that bug hitting the car? 600 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 14: Oh? 601 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 11: Hell yeah, went through a windshield two thousand dollars worth 602 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 11: of damage. It got freaking sided. 603 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 4: What's going on with that? 604 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 11: Oh? 605 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 12: It was? 606 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 15: It was? 607 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 14: It was. 608 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: It was crazy a watch hey. 609 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 11: And the people that drove the car were trying to 610 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 11: like get my insurance for me to pay for the car. 611 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, what insurance? 612 00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: You want? 613 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 11: Life? Because I'm not in the car, Like, what are 614 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 11: we doing here? 615 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 16: Man? 616 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 11: Unbelievable, I hear you. Anyway, Yeah, it's been a while. 617 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 11: I got quite a few things on my mind, so 618 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 11: I'm gonna try and run through them real fast. First, bodie, 619 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 11: what is your beef with tomatoes? 620 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 14: Man? 621 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: I like them in like. 622 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: A diced fashioned I like tomato soup. I like ketchup, 623 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: but any sort of like freshly picked sliced tomato is 624 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: horrible and it makes sandwiches worse. 625 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 11: So you're saying, like a homegrown tomato. You don't like that? 626 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: Disgusting? 627 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 11: Wow, that's well, that's unbelievable. You need to be checked 628 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 11: into a psych word, my friend. 629 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: I think we I think we knew that prior to 630 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: the tomato US. 631 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 11: Yeah, my goodness. And then uh, anyway too, I had 632 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 11: a comment about Indiana football. 633 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: Okay, like this is where my mind's in. 634 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 11: It's all over the place. But when's the thirty for 635 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 11: thirty coming out on them? Because there's no way that 636 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 11: that Kurt Signetti takes the worst program losing his program 637 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 11: in NCAA history, and turns them into a national championship 638 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 11: in two years. 639 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: There's no way, coach, there's some stuff. 640 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 11: Ballion stuff coming out. 641 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you know what I would like? 642 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 11: I would like that that that or Kurt Signetti sold 643 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 11: his soul to the devil or illuminati. I'm not sure. 644 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: Whatever can you can't roll out Illuminati. I agree. 645 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: Now, dare you feel comfortable talking about that. 646 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: On the air? Tone also dangerous. I'm not saying a 647 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: word because you wanted to do it. 648 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: Conspiracy. 649 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: Well, there's there's conspiracy segments and there's Illuminati, and I'm 650 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: not going down that path. 651 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: Makes sense? 652 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, let's let's cut that off, all right, Last and 653 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 11: final point. I've been listening to some of the talkbacks, 654 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 11: and obviously I saw the earlier this week. I like 655 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 11: how the poverty programs are starting to take shots when 656 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 11: the big dogs, the bear cat are down. You know, 657 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 11: it's kind of funny. It's funny to me how much 658 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 11: you know, I knew we lived rent free and Xavier 659 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 11: seat because we're the only game on the schedule that 660 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 11: they care about. I did not realize how much real 661 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 11: estate we had in the heads of Miami of Ohio. 662 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 11: I mean, they are seventeen and oh and can barely 663 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 11: get two thousand people to their arena. Our team is 664 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 11: trash and we at least have eleven thousand. 665 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, so you know, my advice is. 666 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 11: Just worry about your own program. 667 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 17: I like it. 668 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 11: It's funny. 669 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: Can I play the Devil's advocate? 670 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: Are here? We go here and honor. Yep, here we go. 671 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: Okay, here ask you said that these as you described them, 672 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: poverty programs are just now starting to kind of kick 673 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: the big dog. As you just again your words while 674 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: they're down. You know, it's been seven years since the 675 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: Bearcats made the NCAA tournament, and so they kind of 676 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 2: waited for you guys to get better for the last 677 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: seven years, and yet they haven't. So now, are you 678 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 2: really a big dog or you just one of them? Well, 679 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: now we're all on a level playing field, aren't we. 680 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: We've got a mouse in our pocket. 681 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: I'm Ohio State. 682 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 11: Well I'll put it this way, and I'll have some 683 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 11: fun at my own expense. Their poverty, which means they 684 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 11: at least have a house over their head. You see, 685 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 11: it's homeless. We are, We're bad, We're below bad. 686 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: When you're saying only you can make fun of you, 687 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: they can't, I. 688 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 11: Would just say, I just stick to your programs. Just 689 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 11: worry about yourself. That's all that would be my take. 690 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: Okay, what's that being said? 691 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 11: With that being said, when you see comes out and 692 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 11: starts dominating in about I don't know ten fifteen twenty, 693 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 11: how it. 694 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 12: Might be when I'm dead, I'm gonna say about two. Oh, well, 695 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 12: in twelve hours, I'm gonna be dumping on heavily. But yeah, 696 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 12: whenever you see gets back to the top, you can 697 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 12: guarantee I'll be the most out there. 698 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: There you go, there, you thank you. We'll have to 699 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,479 Speaker 1: wheel him out from his bedroom to celebrate. Cally, don't 700 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: woke up today and be careful. In Clifton, they got 701 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: a lead in people getting hit by a car. Per Capital, 702 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: per Capital at Clifton, there's a lot of I attend 703 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: multiple games with Maso every year, and I have to 704 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: kind of help him across the streets, especially because he 705 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: gets that he gets his blood flowing. 706 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 2: They shouldn't put a bag over his head. He should 707 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 2: dress like a traffic cone, so they should. 708 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: If you want to move the needle, they should just 709 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: have a camera crew follow Maso around at a. 710 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: UC game, kind of like Minci from Barstool. Absolutely, I 711 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: think there's a lot of similarities there. Actually, you are 712 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 2: one hundred percent correct. That would be can't miss programming. 713 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: You know what I might do that tomorrow I might 714 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: just film Maso throughout the afternoon and tweeted out, Yeah, Maso, 715 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: he chose war this morning with multiple different things, and 716 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: we appreciate him for that. We'll round up these phone 717 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: calls when we come back to finish up our number one. 718 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 2: We'll get to Charlie Goldsmith at the top of our 719 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: number two next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 720 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: Or we can just make sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty. 721 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: Welcome back, since he three to sixty the Friday edition 722 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: thanks to Skyline Chili. Thank you for listening on ESPN 723 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's grab a couple more 724 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: phone calls, and we've got Charlie Goldsmith standing by to 725 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: kick off our number two. There was something we mentioned 726 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: earlier in the week that you said. We got to 727 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: make sure to ask Charlie that on Friday, and I 728 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: can't remember it. 729 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 2: It was TJ Friedel in center field, Yes, and in 730 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: the future of center field. 731 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 15: Yes. 732 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 2: Obviously a lot has happened since then. Yes, but I 733 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 2: did write that down, beautiful. Charlie said he could do 734 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: ten minutes on that. 735 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: I can't wait. 736 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me. 737 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: Uh, back to the phone lines, Mike, what's up? 738 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 10: Hey, guys, have papen How are you ready? For the weekend. 739 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: Ready for the weekend. 740 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,439 Speaker 10: I'm sure you are t g if you guys working Monday. 741 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 12: Right, I'm not. 742 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm not in Monday. Austin is on Monday. 743 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 14: I am. 744 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: I'll do Tony Pike since he three to sixty without 745 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 2: Tony Pike or. 746 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 10: I do that? Go give him, go get him scout. Okay, Uh, well, 747 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 10: I have to bring it up because you've been talking 748 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 10: about it. So Kyle Tucker will play right field. Thought 749 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 10: they might put him at third base and move month 750 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 10: seater first, but they're gonna play and then in right field. 751 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 10: But you know, really, when you look at these valuations 752 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 10: and attendance, So the Yankees are Forbes' valuation indexes. Yankees 753 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 10: are valued right now at about eight pointy two billions. 754 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 10: The Dodgers is the hair under seven billion, and total 755 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 10: attendance Dodgers for their eighteenth year have averaged over four million. 756 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 10: Over four million people are gains, yeah, which is pretty impressive, 757 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 10: but fifty thousand people are gains, you know, for four 758 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 10: million for the season too. And their their revenues. The 759 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 10: Yankees and the Dodgers or revenue is about seven over 760 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 10: seven hundred million each for the year. So I'm getting 761 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 10: an echo U tak No I. 762 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: Said earlier, like for I don't blame the Dodgers in 763 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: this scenario. I said that at the top of the show, this, 764 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: to me is a monster that Major League Baseball has 765 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: allowed to be created. The Dodgers don't doing anything, They're 766 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: not breaking rules. They are aggressively going out in the 767 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: pursuit of a championship, and it would not be fair 768 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: in a setting that I use this microphone often to say, Man, 769 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: I wish the Reds spend money. I wish the teams 770 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: that I root for spend more money and actively pursue 771 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: a championship than I can. On the other side, attack 772 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: an organization because they spend money to win a championship. 773 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: It's exactly what I want the organization I root for to. 774 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 10: Be exactly and Mo echoes that same sentiment all the time. 775 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 10: Now that the deal is, the Reds are twenty eighth 776 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 10: in valuation, about one point two five billion, I think, 777 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 10: But that's twenty eight attendance they do okay, about twenty 778 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 10: six to five For the year. They're ranked twentieth in attendance, 779 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 10: so that's not bad. But the difference between the Dodgers 780 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 10: and the Mets are the Dodgers know how to spend 781 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 10: their money wisely. The Mets don't. They spend all the 782 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 10: money and they get nothing. Yeah, and they spend as 783 00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 10: much as the Dodgers. I mean you look at the 784 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 10: salaries the Yankees, the Dodgers, the Mets, the Phillies. They're 785 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 10: all really close. But everybody just wants to pile on 786 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,439 Speaker 10: the Dodgers because they win and the other teams don't 787 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 10: win as much as they do, so it aggremates it. Hell. 788 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: I think that's half the battle too, And I think 789 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: that's something you see in the NIL landscape. There's a 790 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: lot of teams that spend a lot of money. You 791 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: also had to evaluate what you spend the money on 792 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: and make sure that it fits your team and your 793 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: roster and your scheme to the to the best way. 794 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: And that's what the Dodgers have done. Other teams spend money, 795 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, at every level. Are you spending it 796 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: the right way? 797 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 18: Yeah? 798 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 10: Because the results showed unless you're just lucky it with 799 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 10: horrendous injuries, which can happen, of course. But Otani's gonna 800 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 10: play some center field this year, and when he doesn't 801 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 10: get the youngster that made that great catch in the 802 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 10: World Series last year. They'll being centered. But you know, 803 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 10: Tani told Roberts that he wants to play some centerfield 804 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 10: and he's the damn good center fielder. Everybody forgets that 805 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 10: because with the Angels that's what he was. Sure, he's 806 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 10: the centerfielder. Saw I'm running out of the breast you guys. 807 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 10: I've got to let's go. I don't feel too good. 808 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: All good, Mike, Thank you, have a good weekend. 809 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 10: Thank you. 810 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 3: I do. 811 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: I there is a in my opinion, Austin, there is 812 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: a connection there because there are again, other organizations spend 813 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: a lot of money. There are college teams that spend 814 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: a lot of money on their rosters. Spending money is 815 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: one part of it. You've got to identify the talent 816 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: correctly and how it fits to your organization as well, 817 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: and the Dodgers have successfully done that. John, what's going on? 818 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 18: Good afternoon, fellas. 819 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: How are you good? 820 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 16: How are you? 821 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 11: I'm good. 822 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 18: I think I heard something from Maso that he's giving 823 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 18: me and my Paithon way too much credit, uh, saying 824 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 18: maybe we did an Italian thing to get Indiana to 825 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 18: be a football powerhouse. 826 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 3: Don't give us that. 827 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 18: Much credit, we wouldn't be able to pull that off 828 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 18: because actually what we would do was take over a 829 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,959 Speaker 18: great program and sink it, you know, point shaving, whatever 830 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 18: else that we're really good at. So don't give us 831 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 18: too much pressure for turning Indiana around. And I told 832 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 18: you I don't trust Kurt Signanny because I actually have 833 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 18: the same last four letters in my last name that 834 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 18: he does. So maybe we're related, but I would never 835 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 18: have anybody in my family named Kurt. That's not really 836 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 18: an Italian name, So we gotta watch out for him 837 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 18: on that one. I had forgotten all. I didn't realize that. 838 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 18: I called Liam Cohen Liam Meston the other day and 839 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 18: I could not stop laughing with the all the talkbacks. 840 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 18: Those are awesome to appreciate them. And you know what, 841 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 18: when we're all making fun of each other, that means. 842 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: That there's an accountability that people hold everyone to. Here. 843 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 18: I like that absolutely. Just hopefully the Bears don't win 844 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 18: this weekend. I'll start referring to their head coach is 845 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 18: Ben Franklin, someone like that mess up? Yeah, that's what 846 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 18: I'm rooming for the. 847 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 11: Rams to win that. 848 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 18: Plus I got some tickets up to Nash with them 849 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 18: to win the Super Bowl. I know you were talking 850 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 18: about bugs going into windfields. 851 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 11: Can I clean. 852 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 18: It up a little bit and talk a little bit 853 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,959 Speaker 18: more about food, Like yesterday we did scrambled eggs. Okay, 854 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 18: so we're doing that. I used to want a breakfast place. 855 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 18: So now we're going to work on a home fries 856 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 18: or shredded halshbrown So home fries. Once you do as 857 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 18: you cut golden Yukon potatoes up into cubes. That's the 858 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 18: best potato for home price. Then you boil them in, 859 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 18: add salt, and after they've done, you strain them as 860 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 18: best you can to get as much of that water out. 861 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 18: Then when you put them on the grill, you fry 862 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 18: them up with bacon, fat and butter, and then you 863 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 18: top it up with very little, not a lot Cajun 864 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 18: season because Cajun season he has like salt, pepper, garlic powder, 865 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 18: onion powder, and a little of the Cajun seasoning obviously, 866 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 18: and then you just let them kind of cook along 867 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 18: there and you've get some awesome home pries. ShredIt half rounds. 868 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 18: Just buy them in a box, add the water they hydrate, 869 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 18: throw them on the grill with the same idea, bacon, 870 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 18: fat butter, obviously the Cajun seasoning, and you're on your 871 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 18: way with your potatoes. 872 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 3: Love it. 873 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 2: I love it. 874 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, John, you're the man. Now I'm hungry. We're a 875 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: cookie show now, now I'm hungry. Now we got to 876 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: get to the second hour. Appreciate you have a great weekend, John, 877 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: You two fellas. 878 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,720 Speaker 2: I used to produce a show on fifty five KRC 879 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 2: called Cooking with Maryland Oh Marilyn harrisa like Saturday afternoons. 880 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 1: He learned some stuff. 881 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 2: I did that forever, and I did learn a lot 882 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: from Maryland. She was the sweetest lady, and she would 883 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 2: bring in so much stuff, and she would just have 884 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,879 Speaker 2: like forty no, no, no, like forty cookbooks she would 885 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 2: bring with her into the studio and somebody would be like, 886 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 2: do you have a recipe for whatever? And she was like, yes, 887 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 2: I do, and then you know, she'd go fish it 888 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 2: out of one of her cookbooks and then she would 889 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 2: give the cook the recipe. 890 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 19: It was. 891 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 2: It was a really wholesome show. 892 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: Just like that. 893 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 2: We could do that. She's not on the air anymore. 894 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: Let's say we are possibilities are that's. 895 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 2: Maybe an untapped market here. We could get a last 896 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 2: Jesse on she's on one. That chef show is now. Yeah, 897 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 2: I saw that with the Gordon ramsay, yeah, that's pretty cool. Nice, 898 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 2: we'll talk maybe we'll talk full with Charlie when we 899 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 2: get back to ask Alise about the Bengals and then say, okay, 900 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 2: so tell me about scal of the potatoes or as 901 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 2: you would, as you would say potatoes. 902 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: Potatoes, tell me about more than potatoes. 903 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 2: We'll take a break this stupid show. 904 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: Charlie Goldsmith, we have not her show. 905 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,720 Speaker 2: Our show is very stupid. 906 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:15,240 Speaker 1: Charlie Goldsmith stands by to talk food, Reds and Bengals 907 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: as well. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station, thanks to 908 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: Skyline Chili three sixty. It's our number two. Your talkbacks 909 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: come up in just a few moments. But first we 910 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: catch up with our good friend, as we do each 911 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: and every Friday. Charlie Goldsmith standing by to join us. 912 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: Right now, Charlie, what's going on? 913 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 4: I'm doing great? How are you? 914 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:34,280 Speaker 11: Charlie? 915 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: Could not be better. We've got Reds, We've got Bengals 916 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: to discuss. It's also been a big week of food 917 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: conversation on this show. How would you describe your your 918 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: food journey. Is it broad? Is it is it basic? 919 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: When it comes to Charlie Goldsmith and food, how do 920 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 1: you describe it? 921 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,439 Speaker 4: Well, I have a bit of a diet. I don't 922 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 4: eat red meat, I don't eat shellfish. I don't eat porks. 923 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of chicken and there's a lot 924 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 4: of fish. I'm trying to work in more salad, but 925 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 4: burritos remain a regular part of the rotation, and I 926 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 4: like consistency. I go to the same place as pretty often. 927 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 2: Where do you stand on tomatoes? 928 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 4: That's very it's very very very specific, Okay, like depending 929 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 4: on what I'm the mood for, depending on how the 930 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 4: like I would have a tomato, want a burger at 931 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 4: X restaurant, but I wouldn't have tomato, want a burger 932 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 4: at Y restaurant? And how specific it is for me? 933 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let's start. 934 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 2: Uh what do you have a spreadsheet at restaurants like 935 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 2: you do? Ross? 936 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 4: So I have all my goodyear spots, my spring training spots. 937 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 4: I have that mapped out so I remember it every year. 938 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:46,359 Speaker 1: And well said, you're uh, the Cincinnati Reds Reds Fest 939 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: is here, and the Reds Fest Charlie or the Reds 940 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: decided last night to move on from Gavin Lux. And 941 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people viewed Gavin Lux as 942 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 1: kind of just the utility role. And we highlighted today 943 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: fifth most of bats on the team last year, highest 944 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: batting average on the team, second most doubles, fourth, highest 945 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: on base percentage, and in the final game of their 946 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: season with their season on the line against the Dodgers 947 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, he batted third for this team. Talk 948 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: about the thought process you had when looking at the 949 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: decision to move on from Gavin Lucks. 950 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 4: So like my take, and this wasn't necessarily the consensus 951 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 4: during last season, but my take was that Lux was 952 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 4: really underrated. Like we all want the Reds to go 953 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 4: get better hitters, Lucks is a good hitter. He's a 954 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 4: good hitter, and the fact that they hit him in 955 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 4: the top half of the order all season reflected that. 956 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 4: And I honestly think that there wasn't a stat that 957 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 4: captured just his professionalism from that that perspective and the 958 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 4: way he grinded it out and that was really useful 959 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,879 Speaker 4: in the line up. So that's now a presence that's gone. 960 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 4: I understand why the Reds did it. They're freeing up 961 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 4: money to make their next move. And they looked at 962 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 4: it saying, well, we're not gonna play them at second 963 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 4: and we don't think he can play left or third. 964 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 4: So this is a plut tune DH who's not a 965 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 4: power hitter at all. And I understand how they got 966 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 4: there and said, this guy just doesn't sit on our team. 967 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 4: But it means they've got to nail the next move 968 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 4: and they've got to make sure they get the right guy, 969 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 4: which they're working on to make sure that they didn't 970 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 4: just lose one of the better presences in their lineup. 971 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 2: Well, what makes you so confident that there is a 972 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 2: next move and that they can get that type of 973 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 2: guy to fix or fill that hole, Because they didn't. 974 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 4: They didn't need to trade Lucks, and we know that 975 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 4: we have data that shows that if they felt like 976 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 4: they just needed to get rid of Luck, they would 977 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 4: have non tendered him in November. He was part of 978 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 4: their plans. The roster changed, the market changed, and I 979 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 4: mean Nick Carl said it publicly, and kid, what you 980 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 4: want about Nick when he says they're going to make 981 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 4: a move or they're trying to make a move. They're 982 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 4: working to make a move and add another piece. They 983 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 4: usually get something done. Now is that a guy who 984 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 4: can hit clean up? Or is that a guy who 985 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 4: hits clean up? Because the Reads don't have much in 986 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 4: their lineup right now, Like there's a wide scale there. 987 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 4: And again this is a move. 988 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 11: They've got a nail. 989 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 4: But I do think there'll be another move. 990 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 1: What type of player could they land at this point, Charlie, 991 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: And obviously maybe a trade is out there. But you 992 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 1: look at the free agency market and Austin made the 993 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: reference today of a you know, Miguel Andrew Hart type player, 994 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 1: Austin Hayes. Are we looking at that level of a player? 995 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,240 Speaker 1: Do you think that things are aligning that they maybe 996 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: go higher than that. 997 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 4: I think the best realistic case scenario would be bringing 998 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 4: back Austin Hayes, and I like it. 999 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 11: I think Hayes is a pretty. 1000 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 4: Solid player who I think as he gets further and 1001 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 4: further removed from that you know, terrible kidney infeession that 1002 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 4: he dealt with in twenty twenty four, he'll be healthier. 1003 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 4: He had a more normal offseason this year. I like 1004 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 4: Hayes and I know there rights have been in touch 1005 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 4: with Hayes other free agents. You can look at a 1006 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,399 Speaker 4: first basement like Reet Hoskins would probably be number two 1007 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 4: on my board. Who's got Nathaniel Lowe, who's like a 1008 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 4: solid platoon first baseman who could play a role for you. 1009 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 4: You've got Andrew. Then the trade market like the splash, 1010 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 4: like the wow, the Reds just got someone great with 1011 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 4: a big move. The only guys I can find who 1012 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,720 Speaker 4: would be out there would be Jared Duran in Boston 1013 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 4: and Andy pot Has maybe in La if he just 1014 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 4: got squeezed out because of the Kyle Tucker deal. But 1015 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 4: I don't view the Reds as maybe having enough right 1016 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,959 Speaker 4: now or enough of a surplus to make those trade. 1017 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 4: They have to trade a front line starter for one 1018 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 4: of those guys. So the next tier of guys I'm 1019 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 4: calling them like the next Gavin Lux's would be Ryan 1020 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 4: Mountcastle in Baltimore, large New Barn Saint Louis is on 1021 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 4: my radar. And then the young Mets guys, specifically a 1022 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 4: Brett Baty or a Mark Bientos. Because the Mets now 1023 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 4: have an infield log in, They've got some talented young 1024 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 4: guys who are kind of expendable. You can kind of 1025 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 4: pulse when someone's available because they're kind of weeded out 1026 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,959 Speaker 4: when these big market teams make bigger moves. 1027 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,800 Speaker 2: What do you think the lux trade means for south 1028 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 2: Stewart and his use moving forward. 1029 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm it's funny like I've been on the 1030 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 4: sal Stewart train, the scal Stewart trains long gone and 1031 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 4: the Reds and people who work in the Reds organization 1032 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 4: are the founding members of the sal Stewart trains. As 1033 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 4: positively as I've spoken about him, you know they've been 1034 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 4: you know, Salts kind of showed me something after he 1035 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,320 Speaker 4: showed the red something in terms of how early the 1036 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 4: Reds were pointing to this guy as the core piece 1037 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 4: of the future. He's gonna play a time. He's a 1038 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 4: big part of their plans. He like roll your eyes. 1039 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 4: He could be the clean up hitter who kind of 1040 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 4: changes this line up this season if he clicks. The 1041 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 4: big question is where he's gonna play, and that's one 1042 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 4: of the big spring training storylines because he's lost weight, 1043 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 4: He's worked like crazy because that's what skal Stewart does. 1044 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 4: This guy's motors insane. Has he made himself into a 1045 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 4: guy who can play some second and some third more regularly. 1046 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 4: That's gonna be really interesting to see. And then is 1047 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 4: he may be less of a bopper and more of 1048 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,240 Speaker 4: a gap to gap guy with some of those physical shapes. 1049 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 1: The changes this team has made to the pitching staff, 1050 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: whether it's you look at what this starting staff can be, 1051 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: what the bullpen is going to be? What what's their ceiling? 1052 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: Can this be a top five pitching staff when when 1053 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: all is said and done, in your opinion. 1054 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I really think it can. We all know there 1055 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 4: are at you don't need me to talk about their irritation. 1056 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,720 Speaker 4: I really like this bullpen and there is a combination 1057 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 4: of a few things. There's the most underrated thing in 1058 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 4: baseball is having enough guys who can get you through 1059 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 4: the season. Like Brent Shooter is elite at getting you 1060 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 4: through the season. Obviously he's not a read anymore. But 1061 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 4: also you know Brent's upside wasn't necessarily what you know, 1062 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 4: Pierce Shohnson is. You guys get where I'm going with this. 1063 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,280 Speaker 4: With Johnson, with Ferguson and Burke, they got three really versatile, 1064 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,879 Speaker 4: durable and the Pennabull pitchers who can get you through 1065 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 4: a season who also have significant leverage experience. So there's 1066 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 4: a different combination in their bullpen versatility and durability to 1067 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 4: pitch in a variety of different roles, whether it's high leverage, 1068 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 4: whether it's you know, long release, having that, having some 1069 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 4: very underdiscussed Reds and Connor Phillips and Dak Maxwell, and 1070 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 4: you can throw in Luis May who are like real talent, 1071 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 4: like they could be. They could be dudes in a 1072 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 4: year or two, maybe maybe this year. And then of 1073 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 4: course you're Pagan Santy on Ashcraft. You know the guys 1074 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 4: they've got back. I like this bullpen. Now, maybe is 1075 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,839 Speaker 4: that a surplus they could trade from for that bat? 1076 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,320 Speaker 4: That's something I've been thinking about personally. But this is 1077 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 4: one of the better bullpens I see because they do 1078 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 4: a little bit of everything, and they have guys who 1079 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 4: are good at a little bit of everything. 1080 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 2: Last Red's question for me, Let's say that they go 1081 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 2: out and get an outfielder, or let's say they go 1082 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 2: out and get a first baseman. Is it as simple 1083 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 2: as whichever one of those positions they they get that 1084 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 2: determines the future of where Spencer Steer is playing every day. 1085 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 2: How do you expect that to shake out. 1086 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I ask like it's gonna be May seventh, 1087 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 4: and this guy has got a cranky shoulder, and that 1088 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 4: guy is a bad mass up for the starting pitcher. 1089 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 4: So Spencer today are going to play here, And then 1090 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 4: there's a different You roll the dice and you've got 1091 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 4: some different cards and it'll change truly day to day 1092 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 4: based on the specific needs of the team on that 1093 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 4: specific day and the matchups and who they're going up against. 1094 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 4: And I'm not a huge fan of that for players 1095 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 4: around the league in general, but I think some players 1096 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 4: are great at handling that, and I think here, truly 1097 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 4: maybe his biggest gift is you can just put that 1098 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 4: guy anywhere and he'll he doesn't have the highest feeling 1099 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 4: in the world, but he'll figure it out and he'll play, 1100 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,919 Speaker 4: you know, at a very solid starter level. And that's their. 1101 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 1: Planform this year under the Bengals Charlie. It has been 1102 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 1: a already crazy offseason in the AFC North alone. All 1103 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 1: other AFC North teams are looking for a head coach. 1104 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: The Bengals have used the term continuity. When you look 1105 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: at continuity verse what the other three AFC North teams 1106 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: are going through. Do you give a distinct advantage to 1107 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: the Bengals going into next season. 1108 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 4: I look at it this way. The Ravens, if they 1109 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 4: hadn't fired Harball, probably should have fired both their offensive 1110 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,800 Speaker 4: and defensive coordinators. The Steelers, if they hadn't fired Tomlin, 1111 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 4: probably should have fired their offensive coordinator. And while Tomlin 1112 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,919 Speaker 4: ran that defense, brought in a defensive mind who could 1113 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 4: give that unit, specifically on the back end the type 1114 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 4: of answers that it felt like it's been missing for 1115 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 4: five years now in the secondary and the linebacker. And 1116 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 4: then the Browns. Of course they've got their defensive side 1117 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 4: of the ball figured out, but they need everything new 1118 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 4: on the offensive side. So there was so much instability 1119 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball in Baltimore and in Pittsburgh, 1120 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 4: and of course Cleveland's mess that'll kind of throw to 1121 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 4: the side. Now the paths for Baltimore that I would 1122 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 4: be most concerned about if I were the Bengals is 1123 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 4: if they hire one of those really smart, system oriented 1124 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 4: defensive coordinators who brings a scheme with him that can 1125 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 4: elevate the versatile talent that they have on that defense, 1126 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,359 Speaker 4: and I think the offense will just figure it out 1127 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 4: because I think they'll make a move or two, and 1128 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 4: I think Lamar will be fire with kind of a 1129 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 4: fresh voice in there running the show. So that to 1130 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 4: me is something I'd be more concerned about. Pittsburgh. Frankly, 1131 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,439 Speaker 4: I think should head towards the rebuild, and I wonder 1132 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 4: if that was part of the reason why Tomlin stepped 1133 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 4: aside the Bengals. I have firmly ahead of the Browns 1134 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 4: and Steelers. I need to see what identity the Ravens 1135 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 4: want to be and what that means for their ceiling 1136 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 4: in there. 1137 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,800 Speaker 1: For with that being said, and the decision to we 1138 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,760 Speaker 1: heard from Duke Tobin, the decision to retain Zach Taylor 1139 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: not adjust really the scouting department. With all of that understood, 1140 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 1: does next year become a put up or shut up 1141 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 1: type year for Zach Taylor where if this team doesn't succeed, 1142 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 1: his job could or should be on the line. 1143 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 4: I mean, that's the world we live in now, certainly, 1144 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 4: And if you keep running your head into the wall 1145 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 4: with this defense, if the defense doesn't make that step 1146 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 4: despite big investments, you might need to just fold your 1147 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 4: hands at that point and say we just need a 1148 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,360 Speaker 4: defensive mastermind to come in and fix this such a 1149 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 4: mastermind that you can only get at the head coach 1150 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,720 Speaker 4: position because you know that's where you're able to attract 1151 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 4: the top defensive coordinators from around the league to come 1152 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 4: to Cincinnati. So that's the pressure, that's the urgency. 1153 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 3: Of this season. 1154 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 4: But I I and we can We'll talk about this 1155 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 4: for the next twelve months. I do understand their decision 1156 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 4: to run it back and bank on the fact that 1157 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 4: this defense just needed better players and that they have 1158 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 4: some of the right things organizationally and structurally to give 1159 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 4: it a better shot in twenty twenty six. 1160 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: I know it's very early in the in the process 1161 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: and we'll have a whole off season to do. So 1162 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 1: have you started to identify the type of free agent 1163 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: players that this team needs to target. 1164 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 4: I'm done with my work at defensive end, defensive tackle, 1165 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 4: and live backer. I've still got to do safety in 1166 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 4: the slot. I wonder if safety in the slot become 1167 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 4: more interchangeable, and that to me is a kind of 1168 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 4: an in the Weed scheme storyline that I'm fascinated by. 1169 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 4: But I see a solid tier of about four guys 1170 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 4: who remind me a lot of twenty twenty one Trey Hendrickson. 1171 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 4: The only elite pass rushaerant on the market is twenty 1172 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 4: twenty six Trey Hendricksons, who I don't expect back. But 1173 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,919 Speaker 4: there are some guys with athletic tools who have shown 1174 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 4: significant tangible flashes but also have flags on their resume 1175 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 4: that could you know, you know, not make them top 1176 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 4: of the market. Guys like a boy in Mafe. He 1177 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 4: has two stacks or he had two stacked blacks, but 1178 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 4: he's part of a great scheme. He consistently makes an impact. 1179 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 4: He has the physical tools in the side. He's a 1180 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 4: guy who could take that next step oh to fay oay, 1181 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 4: you know, kind of in a different bucket. But Joey 1182 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 4: Bosa in a role can be that type of like 1183 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 4: complementary number one to help lead a room going forward. 1184 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 4: So I like what I see there. I hate what 1185 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 4: I see at defensive tackle, and I think there are 1186 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 4: about a million options in linebacker, even who have specific 1187 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 4: connections on the Bengals staff. Three you can get that 1188 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 4: plug and play vature and to help stay a line 1189 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 4: that room. 1190 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 1: It's a big weekend here locally, reds Fast Night and 1191 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 1: tomorrow you see also hosting Iowa State what's your weekend 1192 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 1: look like, Charlie, what do you got planned? 1193 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 4: I'm locked in a RedFest. I love RedFest. It's a 1194 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 4: great chance to just see everyone on the like the 1195 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 4: whole organization is there, so to see everyone on the 1196 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 4: team in the organization, to see you know, to see 1197 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 4: you know you, you know you. Guys often said you'll 1198 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 4: be there listeners. 1199 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 17: You know. 1200 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 4: It's always good to see see people around at RedFest. 1201 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 4: And I'll be there at a at all hours of 1202 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 4: the day. 1203 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 13: Uh. 1204 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 4: And then I'll find a way to watch the football 1205 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 4: games as well. 1206 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: Do do you think the Bearcats have a chance against 1207 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 1: the Cyclones tomorrow? Can you give me hope for that? Charlie? 1208 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 4: You know what I found very interesting? I sound very 1209 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 4: and again we're not expecting Kirk Grisa back until the 1210 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 4: Arizona game. But the way Wes hyped up the Jiggle 1211 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 4: Crease a day day lineup as small as that sample 1212 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 4: size does, makes me wonder if they're getting to the 1213 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 4: point where we're throwing stuff against the wall kind of 1214 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 4: we're looking for something. Yeah, and that mindset, maybe that 1215 00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 4: could do you some good. So maybe that's not Saturday, 1216 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 4: but maybe that mindseting to you some good over the 1217 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 4: last two ups of the season. 1218 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Charlie Joe Danman always talks about how people will approach 1219 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 2: him and say yeat to him, you know, maybe as 1220 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 2: a nod to listening to him on our show. Do 1221 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 2: you ever get anything like that from people that you 1222 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 2: run into on the street. Do they ever say anything 1223 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 2: to you like that. 1224 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 4: Any touch phrases? No, but I hear about Cincy three 1225 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 4: sixty all the time. One of my favorite stories of 1226 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 4: all time was and Tony remembers this was I was 1227 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 4: talking to Tony to U see saying, and some random 1228 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 4: lady walked up and talked about how much he liked 1229 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 4: when I was on the show, having no idea that 1230 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 4: I was literally standing right there. That was a very 1231 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 4: funny moment. 1232 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 18: Good and there he is, Hey and he's right here. 1233 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 2: That's AWESO. 1234 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite I know, just being able 1235 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: to kind of see everyone they're in the same building. 1236 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 3: Is there a. 1237 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: Favorite part of Redsfest for you that that you gravitate towards. 1238 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 4: I always like seeing kind of the prospects interact with 1239 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 4: the old guys for the first time, and I always 1240 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 4: like seeing the new guys on the team. It's kind 1241 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 4: of first coming all in the same room a lot 1242 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,440 Speaker 4: of them, especially you know, the prospection of obviously the 1243 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 4: new guys as well, so kind of seeing me in 1244 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 4: or and then just personally catching up with some of 1245 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 4: these guys as well, especially some of the prospects. And 1246 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 4: maybe I see it spring training but then didn't see 1247 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,440 Speaker 4: during the season, or you know, different people in the 1248 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 4: front office who aren't around at the big league level 1249 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 4: as much every day. So I enjoy seeing things like that. 1250 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 1: Charlie, You're the best man. Enjoy Redsfest, Enjoy the weekend, 1251 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 1: look forward to talking again next week. What's the easiest 1252 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: way with a very busy Reds off season now continuing 1253 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: on the Bengals off season, and so much more to 1254 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: follow along with everything you got. 1255 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 4: And we got Charlie shockboard on substack and you can 1256 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 4: find it on Fox nineteen. It's an exciting time. And 1257 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 4: then spring trainings right around the corner. I booked my 1258 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 4: booked my stay the other day, so I'm ready to 1259 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 4: go for that as well. 1260 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 1: Cannot wait. Charlie, thanks so much, man, have a great weekend. 1261 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: Hey guys, there he is Charlie Goldsmith. Fantastic as always. 1262 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 1: We'll take a break. We'll welcome in you next with 1263 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 1: the talkbacks on this the Home of the Bengals, ESPN 1264 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 1265 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 17: It's that time for talkbacks. Press the microphone and record 1266 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,920 Speaker 17: your message for Austin and Tone. 1267 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 2: Please keep them clean and don't be mean at. 1268 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 17: A sprinkle Sprinkle chrip trip. 1269 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 1: It's that time for talkbacks. 1270 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 17: It's our favorite part of since three sixty. So Austin, buddy, 1271 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 17: play those talkbacks on your screen and please try not 1272 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 17: to sabotage. 1273 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 1: The Friday The Friday, the Friday Edition Talkbacks, ESPN fifteen 1274 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 1: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Here we go. 1275 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 6: Three different schools have won the NC DOUBLEA Basketball Championship 1276 01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 6: and also Crown Football champions They are Ohio, Michigan, and 1277 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 6: Florida in Indigana. Join that trio next Monday. Everyone, have 1278 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 6: a good weekend. 1279 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 1: Crank them up. Love it some big ten power there. 1280 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 2: If you get an opportunity, Tone or are you gonna 1281 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 2: crank them up? 1282 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Crank him up? I plan to crank them up. You know. 1283 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 20: I think everybody in this town should just sit back 1284 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 20: and just take a moment to realize how lucky we 1285 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 20: are to have Tito Francona managing a team in this city. 1286 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 20: I mean, this guy has championship caliber pedigree, He's got 1287 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 20: a track record. We've got guys like Zach Taylor, West Miller, 1288 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 20: Saderfield coaching teams in this town. Any coach can step 1289 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 20: into their roles and get the same results. Anyone could 1290 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 20: win with Joe Burrow, and anybody can lose like Saderfield 1291 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 20: and west Miller. 1292 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 5: So I am just very happy to have Tito, and 1293 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 5: I'm excited to see what year two looks like. 1294 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 1: Okay, year two, And remind everyone. 1295 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 20: That Tito Francona is the only manager to ever take 1296 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,120 Speaker 20: the rest of the playoffs in his first year managing. 1297 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 20: And he also did it with the Boston Red Sox 1298 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 20: and with Cleveland in. 1299 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 1: His first year. 1300 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,360 Speaker 5: So all that, dude is wins, wins, wins, no matter what. 1301 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 1: Okay, is that true? You know it's hard because as 1302 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 1: fact checkers, we put a lot of trust in what 1303 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 1: our talkbackers tell us. 1304 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 2: Hold on, a second, hold on, let me look at 1305 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 2: this up. Okay, Uh, Lou Penella won the World Series 1306 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 2: his first year managing the Rets. 1307 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: Well, that's different than dead. 1308 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 21: Horse, Mule and every other animal on the farm here, 1309 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,440 Speaker 21: but Live Nation and Ticketmaster must have the most powerful 1310 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 21: lobbying operation in front of Capitol Hill possible. The service 1311 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 21: fees for the Stapleton concert tickets were outrageous. 1312 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can imagine paid a little bit more than 1313 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 2: I wanted to in the service fees. The tickets itself, 1314 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 2: they weren't that bad, not. 1315 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,000 Speaker 1: Till they get you. But the service fee, the lower 1316 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 1: the prices not feel good and like it was the 1317 01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 1: same price as the ticket. You feel good about the ticket, 1318 01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: and then you got to check out and you're like, wait, 1319 01:04:58,840 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: why is it double? 1320 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 18: Hey guys, Marcus from the grove, Marcus sixty nine, uh 1321 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 18: for your all. 1322 01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 7: This conversation yesterday. 1323 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 15: I think what would be a great idea is that 1324 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 15: for every new food Tony tries, Austin has to watch 1325 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 15: a movie. 1326 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,760 Speaker 2: No they no, No, I don't have that kind of time. 1327 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't interesting. 1328 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 2: I get it, Marcus. I get where you're coming from. 1329 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 2: Maybe for every five items Tony tries, watch WHOA. I 1330 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 2: don't have that kind of time. I would never watch 1331 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 2: another Bengals game the rest of my life. 1332 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 1: Well, you got three. 1333 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,920 Speaker 19: This is Peggy Hill, hey, and I think normally on 1334 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 19: these airwaves like my husband Hank is, but I just 1335 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,000 Speaker 19: wanted to wish him a happy birthday. 1336 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 22: Woh, that's my talk box, get off of the talk box, drama. 1337 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,440 Speaker 1: Well, happy birthday, Happy birthday, Happy birthday. 1338 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 2: Hey guys, Happy Friday. 1339 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 1: Guess what what chicken butt. 1340 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 2: Man he got? 1341 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 1: You walked right into that boy. 1342 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 2: Hey, Tony and Moe. 1343 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 23: As a new listener to your show, what I have 1344 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 23: a question concerning Cincinnati vernacular. 1345 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 1: Is it Bengals or Bengals? Bengals, It's Bengals, not Bengals. 1346 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:26,920 Speaker 1: Who does that? 1347 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 17: Hello? This is former President Ronald Reagan and wail. This 1348 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 17: latest signing by the Dodgers really makes me long for 1349 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,320 Speaker 17: the days of old. You know, back when I was 1350 01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 17: a budding young actor in Hollywood. You see, back then 1351 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 17: there was parody that wall. Wait a minute, and now 1352 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 17: that I think about it, I seem to remember the 1353 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,959 Speaker 17: Yankees winning eight out of every ten World Series championships. 1354 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: Never mind, Yeah, they were the evil Empire and that 1355 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 1: is now the Dodgers. 1356 01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,200 Speaker 24: What's up, boys, kraiging the creek. I'm certainly not can 1357 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 24: a fault the Dodgers for doing what they can within 1358 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 24: the rules, but this could actually wind up being a 1359 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,200 Speaker 24: good thing for the Reds. Oh, they're getting so brazen now. 1360 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 24: They're just throwing money at at fringe and mid tier players, 1361 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 24: and it's getting to the point to where there's nothing 1362 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,280 Speaker 24: left for ninety five percent of the franchises. So with 1363 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 24: it coming up on a contract year, I'm hoping for 1364 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 24: a long, lengthy holdout and I will take a year 1365 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 24: off for a salary. 1366 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 2: So he's saying that the market will crash. 1367 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 1: I'll say that. Can I say something about it? I 1368 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 1: respect everything Charlie has to say. Yeah, bringing back Austin 1369 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 1: Hayes wouldn't excite me. No, like that, who wouldn't. Just 1370 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 1: did that didn't pan out? 1371 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,680 Speaker 2: And as much as I love Charlie too, it's like, 1372 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 2: you know, he's getting get better after he had the 1373 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 2: kidney infection. Yeah, we have no reason to believe that. 1374 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 1: Like, I'm out. I'm out on that. 1375 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,480 Speaker 19: It's obvious the Dodgers had to scramble last night and 1376 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 19: pivot to sign Kyle Tucker after they missed out on 1377 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 19: their top target of the off season. JJ Laede, Yep, Yeah, 1378 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:10,800 Speaker 19: that's right. 1379 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:11,200 Speaker 1: I agree. 1380 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 3: I'm coping. 1381 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 2: I heard they tried to get Lux back, but the 1382 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 2: asking price was too high. Yep, the Reds wanted Otani 1383 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 2: in return, so they had to pivot to get uh, 1384 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:21,000 Speaker 2: what's his face? 1385 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker? 1386 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 14: Hey, thanks Austin for making me aware that my Hyundai 1387 01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,720 Speaker 14: Sonata with over one hundred thousand miles might just come 1388 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,280 Speaker 14: bust and blow up at any moment. I had no idea. 1389 01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,720 Speaker 14: I didn't have enough to worry about. Now I'll be 1390 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,760 Speaker 14: constantly worrying about that. And your guys show yesterday was 1391 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 14: absolutely hilarious. I listened to it this morning, Tony, You're 1392 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 14: so funny. Anyway, Thanks guys, have a great weekend. 1393 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,599 Speaker 2: Sorry Patty, but yeah, your engine's going to give out. 1394 01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 1: In a minute. Yep. Just start planning now. 1395 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 8: Hey, fellows, since we're talking Reds today, here's a question 1396 01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,560 Speaker 8: for you. Do you think that they're Reds should have 1397 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,839 Speaker 8: given up on Christian and Carnaz Young Strand? 1398 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,439 Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean he hasn't done anything. 1399 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,759 Speaker 8: Should we just pencil in Spencer Steer at first base 1400 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:16,719 Speaker 8: and maybe experiment with some Tyler Stevenson in the spring training? 1401 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,559 Speaker 8: What what's your guys thoughts on players like ces I. 1402 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 1: Don't even know at this point. If you if the 1403 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,880 Speaker 1: if the Reds view cees as part of the plan. 1404 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would say they gave up 1405 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:32,519 Speaker 1: on him as much as he was terrible, right and 1406 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:38,880 Speaker 1: even Triple A was pretty bad. But we saw a 1407 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,680 Speaker 1: few people kind of take a step backwards last year, 1408 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 1: and I think that's where a lot of the heat 1409 01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 1: towards Chris Valaika came. And maybe it's just another year 1410 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,759 Speaker 1: in that system and being taught that in the whole offseason. 1411 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1412 01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,439 Speaker 2: Maybe it'll help him. I don't know that I would 1413 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 2: say they've given up on him, but it didn't feel 1414 01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:56,599 Speaker 2: like they rushed him back to the big leagues at 1415 01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:57,040 Speaker 2: any point. 1416 01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 1: I like this year two in the system him, that's 1417 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:01,040 Speaker 1: where we're at. 1418 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 2: I like this, it's January, yep. 1419 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 1: I can get behind this. 1420 01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,839 Speaker 16: Why is it that every time Tony says bo Boschett 1421 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 16: sounds like he's saying Boba fette. 1422 01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 1: Tony, it's bo Bishett bo Baschett. Let me ask you 1423 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 1: a question, Tony. 1424 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 3: What's the capital of Waq? 1425 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:18,960 Speaker 1: Is it honoliu? 1426 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 3: Hey? 1427 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 16: Hearing Terry Francona talks reminds me of my first wife. 1428 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 16: She was talking about don't worry about what you don't have, 1429 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,040 Speaker 16: worry about what you got next thing. I know she 1430 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 16: enters the transfer. 1431 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:36,120 Speaker 2: Portal and she was gone, Oh, no, portal's everywhere now 1432 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 2: you do so have I've always said the suff Suffix 1433 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:46,400 Speaker 2: bshett are a struggle for Honolulu. Nca Tournament, NCAA tournament. 1434 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 25: Major League Baseball has become nothing but a farm system 1435 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,920 Speaker 25: for me. Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox and. 1436 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 1: Mess Red soxod what have they done. 1437 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 25: Is even remotelyative when it comes to winning championships, and 1438 01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,439 Speaker 25: they never will be under the current system. As far 1439 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 25: as I'm concerned, baseball's broken, It's boring, and it needs change. 1440 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,679 Speaker 2: I will say this, Imagine we were in a city 1441 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:19,439 Speaker 2: like Boston and we had owners and a franchise as 1442 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 2: rich as any in baseball, like the Red Sox are, 1443 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 2: and a group that didn't spend. 1444 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 1: Didn't do anything, hasn't done anything that would be miserable. 1445 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,040 Speaker 2: Cubs kind of dealt with us a little bit, and 1446 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 2: they've gotten better in recent years. 1447 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 1: But I mean there's already enoughing the Red Sox. The 1448 01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:39,000 Speaker 1: Reds don't do. 1449 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,839 Speaker 2: The Red Sox are as rich as anybody in baseball, 1450 01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 2: and they don't spend their money. That would send me. 1451 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 1: Get under your skin. 1452 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 2: I probably would would have to leave the profession. Either 1453 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,639 Speaker 2: I would get told to leave the profession or something else. 1454 01:11:55,320 --> 01:12:07,480 Speaker 5: Up Friday, you fifteen well shut out, Angle would be okay, beautiful. 1455 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 2: Sonny, Jilly Flaw Happy Friday. 1456 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 1: Angle Wood beats listening in today on a stand up. 1457 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,679 Speaker 1: I wonder what's going on a long boat key today? 1458 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,080 Speaker 1: Kevin Luck's gonna learn about long boat key. 1459 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,560 Speaker 26: Hey, Tony, it's the Lord. You have my permission to 1460 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,640 Speaker 26: eat whatever you want. Wow, your body, your choice. 1461 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:36,000 Speaker 1: Wow, congratulations to thank you God, Thank you Lord. 1462 01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:36,879 Speaker 17: Bugs. 1463 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 27: We're talking about bugs on a windshield. We go from 1464 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:48,160 Speaker 27: Tony's horrible diet the bugs on a windshield. You guys 1465 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,519 Speaker 27: know how to be entertaining. I'm a good one. 1466 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: I finding this. 1467 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 2: I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. 1468 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,599 Speaker 1: Welcome to sinsy these at three sixty pile. 1469 01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,080 Speaker 2: I think it's sarcasm. 1470 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,160 Speaker 1: No, he's a Johnny Annie I ice man. 1471 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,439 Speaker 11: Just got back from sunny Florida. 1472 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,479 Speaker 1: Gosh, everyone's in free vacation. 1473 01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:09,920 Speaker 15: But I'm back. Baby. 1474 01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,559 Speaker 11: Head on down to reds Vest tonight as. 1475 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:15,360 Speaker 28: Years ago. 1476 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:16,840 Speaker 4: Maybe run into again tonight. 1477 01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:17,280 Speaker 13: Yeah. 1478 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 4: Anyway, do you think the Reds will do anything with. 1479 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 9: This extra money that gots from trading away Gavin the lots. 1480 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:31,040 Speaker 1: What's your thoughts potential washing machine dryer combo for the clubhouse? 1481 01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:32,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1482 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:37,200 Speaker 2: Charlie seems to think GLUXI Mississippi. Charlie is fully convinced. 1483 01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,600 Speaker 2: Now we'll talk to Jeff Carr and we'll see what 1484 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,800 Speaker 2: he thinks of the same way. I love Jeff to death, 1485 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 2: but I mean his cup runneth over with optimism. So 1486 01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 2: if those two guys believe firmly in their heart of 1487 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:50,640 Speaker 2: hearts that the Reds are gonna do something, I have 1488 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 2: no reason to believe that they would be wrong. But 1489 01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,640 Speaker 2: the cynical Reds fan in me feels like, even if 1490 01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,040 Speaker 2: you get Austin Hayes, that's the equivalent of doing nothing. 1491 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,640 Speaker 4: May so come on, have a. 1492 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,320 Speaker 14: Sense of humor. Miami was just having a little fun, 1493 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,680 Speaker 14: Maso light mold a lot of U. See fans had 1494 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,160 Speaker 14: a really good attitude and sense of. 1495 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 8: Humor about it. 1496 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,680 Speaker 15: And they're eighteen and oh hopefully. 1497 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 14: Having a good season. 1498 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 2: Let them have some fun. 1499 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,599 Speaker 14: And the students aren't even around, and it's an hour 1500 01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:25,120 Speaker 14: away from anywhere civilized, so hopefully students are back soon 1501 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,720 Speaker 14: and they'll get a lot more people there. 1502 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,439 Speaker 1: You ain't explain yourself to us, that's maso. 1503 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 26: Yeah, Happy Friday, everybody, guys. The other day you were 1504 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 26: talking about car cursey driving etiquette. You know, people that 1505 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,040 Speaker 26: don't use turn signals, things like that. Here's one for 1506 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,640 Speaker 26: you have people that cut you off and didn't go 1507 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,680 Speaker 26: like ten to fifteen miles below the speedlman, I mean 1508 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,040 Speaker 26: that one makes me just really mad. I mean almost 1509 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,080 Speaker 26: as mad as Tony Pike at a restaurant with that kids, 1510 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,679 Speaker 26: mean you option now, seriously, just tease a Tony. Hey, guys, 1511 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,280 Speaker 26: enjoy the football this weekend and be saved out there today. 1512 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 1: You mean to tell me you don't have chicken tenders? 1513 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 2: I had chicken nuggets for dinner last night. 1514 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:07,479 Speaker 17: Okay, double dipper gipper will. For years and years and years, 1515 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,400 Speaker 17: I've been looking up and down the radio dial for 1516 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:15,000 Speaker 17: a show about cooking bugs. Today's show was the closest 1517 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:15,679 Speaker 17: I've ever come. 1518 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:21,639 Speaker 1: Thank you, appreciate you, Hey, Audie. 1519 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 2: I heard you on Sloaney this morning. 1520 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:25,760 Speaker 28: I enjoy you on Fridays on the air. 1521 01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:26,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1522 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,479 Speaker 28: That's actually how I heard about your Guys show and 1523 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 28: a few years ago, and I haven't been I haven't 1524 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:36,439 Speaker 28: stopped listening. Can you tell me how the hell Scott 1525 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 28: Sloane says WLW so fast, he's like Cincinnati. 1526 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty much nailed it right there. You want 1527 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 2: to talk about rolling it off the tongue. Sloaney is 1528 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,800 Speaker 2: as sharp and smooth as any person on the air 1529 01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,760 Speaker 2: I've ever been around, So I don't know how he 1530 01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 2: does it, but he's the best at it. 1531 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,680 Speaker 29: I always enjoy when John calls in gives us a 1532 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 29: tape of a little Boston accent. You know, he said 1533 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,080 Speaker 29: he shares the same names as Siggs with the last 1534 01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,880 Speaker 29: four letters. I'm gonna go John spaghetti, which you know 1535 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:15,679 Speaker 29: already makes me hungry. Here's the key to cooking pizza roles. 1536 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,599 Speaker 29: You cook them about halfway through, and then you take 1537 01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,320 Speaker 29: them out of the microwave. You put shredded cheese on there, 1538 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,400 Speaker 29: finish cooking them, take them out, and then top a 1539 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 29: tillo hot sauce all over. 1540 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,040 Speaker 1: Top of tia hot sauce. Now I could. I'm on 1541 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 1: board with everything leading up to throwing the hot sauce 1542 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:33,439 Speaker 1: in there. 1543 01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 3: Now. 1544 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,479 Speaker 2: I used to exclusively make pizza rolls in the microwave 1545 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:41,280 Speaker 2: you cheese on them? No, but I know that I 1546 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 2: think they're better nowadays in the air fryer or if 1547 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,640 Speaker 2: you like, actually put them in the oven and like 1548 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:48,360 Speaker 2: put them on a. 1549 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,080 Speaker 1: Sheet, you mean, like better for you. 1550 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:55,120 Speaker 2: No, like the it's not as squishy, Okay, but I 1551 01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,240 Speaker 2: just like to go Texas pete hot sauce and ranch. 1552 01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,920 Speaker 2: Mix that together and what do you got? And that's 1553 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:02,599 Speaker 2: a dipping sauce. 1554 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:03,000 Speaker 1: Okay. 1555 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, grape Sharon Dog. 1556 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:10,760 Speaker 23: You know I'm kind of paraphrasing something that Austin said. Basically, 1557 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,680 Speaker 23: he had said that in his lifetime, the Reds had not, 1558 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,720 Speaker 23: you know, been very good. And let me tell you 1559 01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,599 Speaker 23: when you have to move a decent player like Lucks, 1560 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 23: just the idea that we have to get a little 1561 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 23: more room salary room that will continue just a just 1562 01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 23: an average team period. 1563 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,760 Speaker 1: But Greg exclamation point, wait till you see what's coming 1564 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:36,560 Speaker 1: in return. 1565 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:42,400 Speaker 13: Early Wordsmith Goldsmith. I mean he's chopping it up. Romayne 1566 01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,800 Speaker 13: led us on a Caesar salary. I was gonna leave 1567 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:50,360 Speaker 13: a phenomenal talk back, Yesterdavid. The Road to Hell's paid 1568 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:55,639 Speaker 13: with good intentions. Yeah, Gavin Lucks, he puts, he puts 1569 01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 13: the U and utility. Yep, he did everything but clean 1570 01:17:59,600 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 13: the doug. 1571 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:08,479 Speaker 30: But I love that guy, Austin. Tony Sleeve rolling down 1572 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,800 Speaker 30: here and foulment. Oh, I'll tell you what. I've been 1573 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,679 Speaker 30: around these hogs up all day and high. I'm exhausted. Yeah, 1574 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 30: but I think our bear cats tomorrow are gonna roll 1575 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,600 Speaker 30: Iowa State. I know what sounds crazy, I know what 1576 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,840 Speaker 30: sounds ludicris call it. He'll billy intuition. It's gonna happen. 1577 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,560 Speaker 30: We're gonna be living high in the cotton, have a 1578 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:32,080 Speaker 30: good day. 1579 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,000 Speaker 1: High on the hog, down in the holler. 1580 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:35,519 Speaker 2: Shut up to foulmouth man. 1581 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,519 Speaker 31: Man, Hey, it's Mike an Independence Tony Austin, how you doing. 1582 01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,679 Speaker 31: I think Tony has been expanding his palate starting pot 1583 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,439 Speaker 31: roast now at Twin Peaks, Yes, moving on up in 1584 01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 31: the world. I think I got an idea for a 1585 01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,840 Speaker 31: new seasoning line from Tony Pike's pick. There's some salt 1586 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 31: and pepper, a nice bottle, nice logo should work out. Well, 1587 01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,480 Speaker 31: you guys, have a good day, go catch. 1588 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,720 Speaker 2: To trick some people into thinking that's that's actually something 1589 01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:07,000 Speaker 2: else legitimate you so you had some all the pot roast? 1590 01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yes, I have you. 1591 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,200 Speaker 2: How about eating some crow with Zach Taylor? Is that 1592 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:14,120 Speaker 2: on the menu at all? 1593 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 1: No, I don't plan to have any crow quick double dip. 1594 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,040 Speaker 21: Buddy of mine's down in Saint Bart's with his wife 1595 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 21: and they just went on a hike with Dax Hill 1596 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 21: and his wife. Wow, my buddy Dan said he was 1597 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:25,639 Speaker 21: super super nice guy. 1598 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:26,479 Speaker 1: Very cool. 1599 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,080 Speaker 2: It's a little surprising for a Michigan man, but that 1600 01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:31,519 Speaker 2: seems like a stand up dude. 1601 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,640 Speaker 32: I got some world changing advice. Oh, they make this 1602 01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:39,560 Speaker 32: one windshield wipe or fluid solvent thing that has like 1603 01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 32: a bug remover chempbical winne works really well, especially driving 1604 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,640 Speaker 32: at night, and you get the big splat, you know, 1605 01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,599 Speaker 32: three or four swipes and windshield it's cleaned off. 1606 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:54,360 Speaker 15: So there you go. 1607 01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,120 Speaker 1: I don't need to worry about that because I got 1608 01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:01,240 Speaker 1: aerodynamic windshields, do you I think so? I ain't seen 1609 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:01,920 Speaker 1: a bug in a while. 1610 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,040 Speaker 29: Is Tony giving pronunciation advice to the guy who thinks 1611 01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,839 Speaker 29: the toil toilet is a good place to escape? 1612 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,280 Speaker 1: What huh? Now? See, I'm lost and I don't know 1613 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,880 Speaker 1: was that a shot at me? I don't tell you 1614 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,720 Speaker 1: this escape. I don't give any escape I don't give 1615 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,800 Speaker 1: any pronunciation X escape escape is this I'm are you 1616 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:26,400 Speaker 1: saying X? 1617 01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:27,679 Speaker 2: I don't know that's what he says? 1618 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:28,120 Speaker 1: Escape? 1619 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,759 Speaker 2: I think is this something I say? I'm open to critics? 1620 01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,200 Speaker 1: Uh to what do they call? You do it all 1621 01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:41,439 Speaker 1: the time. You're terrible at it. Constructive criticism one O 1622 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,840 Speaker 1: one drives me nuts. 1623 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:50,800 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm lightheaded. Any oxygen to my brain 1624 01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,320 Speaker 2: right there? It was our last one. 1625 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,160 Speaker 1: Well, the oxygen can't escape. 1626 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,920 Speaker 2: Probably, Hey, I'm not perfect. 1627 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,200 Speaker 1: We uh, we're gonna take a break, and we do 1628 01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 1: have Jeff Carr, We do have Bob Manjeen in our three. 1629 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,200 Speaker 1: So we we'll use the rest of the time in 1630 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,639 Speaker 1: hour number two to make some picks. With some games 1631 01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,439 Speaker 1: coming up this weekend. We'll dive into that next on 1632 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,679 Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen to thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 1633 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,200 Speaker 5: From the schmid Heating. 1634 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:20,680 Speaker 2: Talk about. 1635 01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:27,280 Speaker 1: Pay since he three sixty ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 1636 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,120 Speaker 1: Let's do this, Austin. We've got a few minutes here. 1637 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,640 Speaker 1: We've talked about the divisional games, but we have not 1638 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 1: given our official pick for these divisional games yet that 1639 01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,000 Speaker 1: are going to be happening tomorrow and Sunday across the 1640 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,320 Speaker 1: National Football League. Let's do it now. Bill's on the 1641 01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,479 Speaker 1: road in Denver. It's actually going to be forty degrees 1642 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 1: for this one, So whether shouldn't be a factor, No wins, 1643 01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,439 Speaker 1: no precipitation. Denver is a point and a half favorite. 1644 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:55,840 Speaker 1: Do you like the team that's had to layoff here 1645 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,639 Speaker 1: with maybe not as much experience, or are you banking 1646 01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,439 Speaker 1: on ash Allen is the best player remaining in the 1647 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:03,639 Speaker 1: playoffs and winning this game. 1648 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,720 Speaker 2: It's getting harder to justify picking the Bills, especially as 1649 01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,760 Speaker 2: the injuries continue for them. They just lost Shavers to 1650 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:12,759 Speaker 2: a torn acl. 1651 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:14,880 Speaker 1: I believe Denver got somebody back. 1652 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:21,920 Speaker 2: Denver got Dre Greenlaw back. I think it It's hard 1653 01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,200 Speaker 2: for me to convince myself that buffalo can win this game. 1654 01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:29,240 Speaker 2: But Josh Allen's the best quarterback left in the playoffs 1655 01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,200 Speaker 2: in the AFC, and so for that reason, I'm just 1656 01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 2: going to pick them. I'm going to ride with that guy. 1657 01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,439 Speaker 2: The experience and having played I don't know if you 1658 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 2: know this or not, and Tony Romo is going to 1659 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,280 Speaker 2: remind you one hundred and forty thousand times when they 1660 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,800 Speaker 2: play that Josh Allen has playoff experience. I do think 1661 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:48,040 Speaker 2: it matters. They only had one game these two teams 1662 01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:49,880 Speaker 2: played each other in the wild Card around last year. 1663 01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,720 Speaker 2: Buffalo dominated it. I don't know it'll be that lopsided 1664 01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,960 Speaker 2: this year, but I do think Buffalo wins the game. 1665 01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's lopsided, but I do think that 1666 01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 1: this is a a Buffalo win. I think that there 1667 01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,479 Speaker 1: is a significant advantage for the Denver Broncos with Sean Payton, 1668 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,760 Speaker 1: but I think the best player on the field on 1669 01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,600 Speaker 1: either side of the ball is Josh Allen, and I 1670 01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,280 Speaker 1: think that is enough to carry over what they were 1671 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,439 Speaker 1: able to do last week against the Jacksonville Jaguars. I 1672 01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,120 Speaker 1: think they do it against Denver as well. Sam Donald 1673 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,840 Speaker 1: popped up on the injured list with an oblique injury 1674 01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,080 Speaker 1: for the Seattle Seahawks. They are coming off a break. 1675 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers don't. I don't know if you're 1676 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,880 Speaker 1: gonna expect anything from Fred Warner, although I've seen him 1677 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,920 Speaker 1: practice in this week. No George Kittle. I wonder with 1678 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:42,599 Speaker 1: Mike McDonald being able to prepare a full week knowing 1679 01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,320 Speaker 1: that George Kittle is not going to be playing in 1680 01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,760 Speaker 1: this game, how that changes, how they'll defend Christian McCaffrey. 1681 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:52,080 Speaker 1: They absolutely shut down the forty nine ers a few 1682 01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,880 Speaker 1: weeks ago in that game that was essentially for the 1683 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,080 Speaker 1: number one seed in the playoffs. I think I think 1684 01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:01,639 Speaker 1: this number is too high. Take the Niners against the spread, 1685 01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,880 Speaker 1: but I actually think Seattle wins this game. But I 1686 01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:05,679 Speaker 1: do think it's close. 1687 01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:10,760 Speaker 2: When it comes to two really good football minds, Mike 1688 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:14,200 Speaker 2: McDonald and Kyle Shanahan, this is like when an unstoppable 1689 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,960 Speaker 2: force meets an immovable object. And I don't expect Kyle 1690 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,360 Speaker 2: Shanahan to get embarrassed like that the way they did 1691 01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,320 Speaker 2: the other game that ended up the regular season, the 1692 01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,680 Speaker 2: way Mike McDonald's defense played. And I do think even 1693 01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,040 Speaker 2: though it's on a short week, Kyle will come up 1694 01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:33,400 Speaker 2: with some stuff to or some things that maybe Mike 1695 01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:37,439 Speaker 2: McDonald hasn't seen or hadn't been prepared for whatever, just 1696 01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,599 Speaker 2: because that's what Kyle Shanahan does. Like he's that good 1697 01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,040 Speaker 2: of a play caller at an offensive mind. But I 1698 01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:45,880 Speaker 2: still think this will be too much. Now, the Sam 1699 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,920 Speaker 2: Donald thing makes me nervous. And Clint Kubiak said yesterday 1700 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,760 Speaker 2: Drew Locke took took first team reps that don't I 1701 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,439 Speaker 2: don't like, but with the amount of injuries that San 1702 01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,439 Speaker 2: Francisco has, playing on another short week on the road 1703 01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,880 Speaker 2: in that environment, I do think will get it done. 1704 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,840 Speaker 2: They've been my Super Bowl pick. I'm gonna stick with. 1705 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,559 Speaker 1: Them for everything you just described. If San Francisco does 1706 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 1: win that game, it's Shanahan's most impressive win, everything that 1707 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:16,000 Speaker 1: they're going up against. Sunday, NFL Action Texans Patriots. Man, 1708 01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:20,839 Speaker 1: this one, to me is potential game of the weekend 1709 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,160 Speaker 1: because you get a Patriots team that defensively were great 1710 01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,720 Speaker 1: last week. Offensively they struggled a little bit, and the 1711 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,240 Speaker 1: Chargers defense is good. They're not Houston Texans defense. Though 1712 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,200 Speaker 1: Texans are arguably the hottest team in football right now, 1713 01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:39,479 Speaker 1: winners of ten games in a row. I question if CJ. 1714 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,120 Speaker 1: Stroud can do enough in this game because I think 1715 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,240 Speaker 1: the Texans defense will give them plenty of chances to 1716 01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,479 Speaker 1: win it. This is actually my upset of the weekend. 1717 01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Texans to end the Patriots season. 1718 01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I'm there yet. Like the 1719 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,599 Speaker 2: way that CJ. Stroud played last week just makes me nervous, 1720 01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:58,120 Speaker 2: and it. 1721 01:25:58,160 --> 01:25:59,840 Speaker 1: Does make it look what they did when how bad he. 1722 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does make you think, okay, well, if he 1723 01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,519 Speaker 2: plays just a little bit better, it's not gonna be 1724 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:04,920 Speaker 2: a problem. 1725 01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:05,120 Speaker 4: Though. 1726 01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:09,240 Speaker 2: They could cruise and certainly he won't play that bad again. 1727 01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,240 Speaker 2: I get it, I get where you come from. I'm 1728 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,240 Speaker 2: just I'm not fully sold on Houston. There have been 1729 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,240 Speaker 2: some times where there's been some inconsistencies. I do think 1730 01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:20,400 Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels and Drake may are a good marriage, and 1731 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:24,240 Speaker 2: they do have a balanced offensive attack, and playing at home, 1732 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it to New England in a close one, 1733 01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 2: maybe a field goal at the end of the. 1734 01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:33,639 Speaker 1: Game, the final game of the weekend, twenty one degrees, 1735 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:37,519 Speaker 1: it's gonna feel like it's about five degrees. This, to me, 1736 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,360 Speaker 1: this was why it was so important for the Rams 1737 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,360 Speaker 1: to get home field advantage. They just don't play well 1738 01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:49,479 Speaker 1: in the cold. And I still think the Rams, if 1739 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,040 Speaker 1: they've got by the Bears, have the best chance to 1740 01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,599 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, especially from the NFC, but they've 1741 01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,200 Speaker 1: not played their best down the stretch. This to me 1742 01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,240 Speaker 1: comes down to Kayleb Williams versus the secondary who's not 1743 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,240 Speaker 1: been very good against the Rams. Everything about this, Austin 1744 01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,880 Speaker 1: tells me Rams, But at the end of the day, 1745 01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,320 Speaker 1: I have to take in this matchup the quarterback I'll 1746 01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,559 Speaker 1: trust the most. That is Matthew Stafford over Caleb Williams 1747 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 1: at this point, and it's still Sean McVeigh over Ben Johnson, 1748 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,519 Speaker 1: but not by a wide margin. I think the Rams 1749 01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,360 Speaker 1: go on and win as the road team on Sunday Night. 1750 01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a hard time, you know, if I'm 1751 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,920 Speaker 2: gonna use that logic on Josh Allen in the AFC, 1752 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,760 Speaker 2: how could I not use it on Matthew Stafford in 1753 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,280 Speaker 2: the NFC. I think the Bears defense just not quite 1754 01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,120 Speaker 2: good enough to hang with Los Angeles. I think maybe 1755 01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:40,519 Speaker 2: the cold is being overblown a little bit. And I 1756 01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:44,680 Speaker 2: think defensively, what Chris Shula has been able to do 1757 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,599 Speaker 2: and it's getting him a lot of head coach attention 1758 01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:50,400 Speaker 2: across the NFL. I almost wonder if it's best to 1759 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,280 Speaker 2: just let Chicago operate in their base offense, you know, 1760 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,760 Speaker 2: don't get Caleb Williams off his mark, keep him in 1761 01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,799 Speaker 2: the pocket, force him to make decisions from inside the pocket, 1762 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:03,040 Speaker 2: and try to make those throws instead of letting him 1763 01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,640 Speaker 2: gets outside the structure. Of the offense and try to 1764 01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,599 Speaker 2: beat you that way. I just think the Rams are 1765 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,479 Speaker 2: the better team, and I think you know, they have 1766 01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,120 Speaker 2: more weapons on offense to take advantage of the issues 1767 01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:19,000 Speaker 2: that Chicago has defensively than Chicago has on that side 1768 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,160 Speaker 2: of the ball. So I'm gonna go with the Rams. 1769 01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,960 Speaker 1: One other thing, I'm not in. You're in on Monday, 1770 01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:26,479 Speaker 1: I'm not in, So we won't have a chance to 1771 01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,240 Speaker 1: talk about this till Tuesday. The National Championship College Football 1772 01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:37,479 Speaker 1: National Championship. Is the number too big for you? What 1773 01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,200 Speaker 1: is the number right now? It is eight and a 1774 01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,080 Speaker 1: half Indiana essentially a road game, although Indiana will travel 1775 01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:50,240 Speaker 1: really well. It's at hard Rock Stadium, that's Miami's home stadium. Miami. 1776 01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,479 Speaker 1: You talk about what the road would be like if 1777 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,720 Speaker 1: they win it, all the path they had to take 1778 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,680 Speaker 1: to get to the championship and the teams that they 1779 01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 1: had to beat. You're talking about one of the most 1780 01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,960 Speaker 1: remarkable runs you've seen. Texas A and m Ohio State, 1781 01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,920 Speaker 1: Ole Miss now the prohibitive favorite. The Indiana Hoosiers, who 1782 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,800 Speaker 1: I feel like Austin. Everyone has just kept waiting for 1783 01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:15,440 Speaker 1: them to stumble. Eventually, they're gonna get caught up to Eventually, 1784 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,360 Speaker 1: the shine's gonna come off. Teams are gonna figure it out. 1785 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:22,680 Speaker 1: No one has figured it out with Kurtzignetti and Fernando Mendoza. 1786 01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,840 Speaker 1: I don't think Miami figures it out, but I think 1787 01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,839 Speaker 1: their front causes this game to be a little bit closer. 1788 01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,679 Speaker 1: Miami is not gonna try to throw the ball all around. 1789 01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:34,599 Speaker 1: They're gonna possess the ball. They're gonna run it. They're 1790 01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,000 Speaker 1: gonna use the short passing game as an extension of 1791 01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,840 Speaker 1: the run game and get the ball to their playmakers. 1792 01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,840 Speaker 1: I think Miami keeps this close enough. Indiana wins, Miami covers. 1793 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,519 Speaker 2: I'm done doubting the Hoosiers. As much as I would 1794 01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,760 Speaker 2: like for them to get beat, they have proven me 1795 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:51,160 Speaker 2: wrong time and time again. So for that reason, I'm 1796 01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:55,320 Speaker 2: gonna pick them to win the national championship and do 1797 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,799 Speaker 2: so in a comfortable fashion. I think they're gonna bludge 1798 01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,200 Speaker 2: in Miami, just like they've bludgeon anyone else everyone else. 1799 01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,040 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be one of the best sports stories, 1800 01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,200 Speaker 2: and I think they'll make a movie about it. They'll 1801 01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,360 Speaker 2: make thirty for thirties about it, and Kurt Signetti is 1802 01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:14,519 Speaker 2: unfortunately going to continue his reign of terror across college football. 1803 01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:16,599 Speaker 2: I got the Hoosiers to win. 1804 01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:21,200 Speaker 1: In a route. Hoosiers win thirty for thirty booked. That's 1805 01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:21,960 Speaker 1: what we got right here. 1806 01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:24,120 Speaker 2: Remember when I used to make thirty for thirty commercials? 1807 01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:27,160 Speaker 1: I do, Yeah, I remember I missed those. Those were fun. 1808 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,680 Speaker 1: It's back when I was inspired. I remember Mo's the Cupsnake. 1809 01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:32,400 Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't one of my favorites. 1810 01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,759 Speaker 2: I wonder if I have that somewhere, one of my favorites. 1811 01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,200 Speaker 2: Maybe we since you know it's Red's Fests and everything, 1812 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:42,880 Speaker 2: maybe I can bring that back. After Jeff Carr. 1813 01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,680 Speaker 1: Okay, well, Jeff Carr will join us next to kick 1814 01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:47,640 Speaker 1: off the third and final hour the Friday edition of 1815 01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,320 Speaker 1: Since He Three to sixty. It'll happen next on ESPN 1816 01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:53,839 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, NFL Playoffs Look. 1817 01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:57,680 Speaker 30: Three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati. 1818 01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:02,599 Speaker 17: This is ESPN fifteen Cincinnati Sports Station. 1819 01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back our number three of Since He three p 1820 01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:10,679 Speaker 1: sixty on this Friday afternoon. Major League Baseball has stolen 1821 01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:14,040 Speaker 1: the show and the Reds were part of a three 1822 01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,080 Speaker 1: team deal last night Big Night in Major League Baseball, 1823 01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,280 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker signs a deal with the Los Angeles Dodgers. 1824 01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,880 Speaker 1: Today Bob Bashett has signed a deal with the New 1825 01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,560 Speaker 1: York Mets. There's just a lot to sift through. And 1826 01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,559 Speaker 1: on top of all of it, it's Reds Fest tonight 1827 01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:32,280 Speaker 1: tomorrow at the Convention Center. Reds Fest is happening. So 1828 01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:35,000 Speaker 1: we've got to get our baseball fix, and we're going 1829 01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:36,559 Speaker 1: to do so. To kick off the hour here from 1830 01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,680 Speaker 1: the Lockdown Reds podcast, our good friend joining us right now, 1831 01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:41,599 Speaker 1: Jeff Carr. What's up, Jeff? 1832 01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,880 Speaker 3: Only it's one of the best weekends of the year. 1833 01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:46,760 Speaker 3: I tell you what I do want to respond You 1834 01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:50,479 Speaker 3: guys had a really interesting topic earlier on and I 1835 01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,160 Speaker 3: just wanted to let you know that, Like when it 1836 01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:55,000 Speaker 3: comes to the bugs, I really feel like if you 1837 01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,840 Speaker 3: were to ask Duke Tobin about the bugs in the windshields, 1838 01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:59,920 Speaker 3: he said, well, the bugs have been here before. 1839 01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna be bad. They're gonna be very well. Said 1840 01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:08,519 Speaker 1: damn it, what a What where do you staying? When 1841 01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,920 Speaker 1: it comes to food as well, Jeff, but it's been 1842 01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,479 Speaker 1: three two days of food talk. Now, how would you 1843 01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,360 Speaker 1: describe your palette when it comes to food. 1844 01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,800 Speaker 3: Give me the spicy stuff. Love the spicy stuff, kind 1845 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,680 Speaker 3: of kind of punt sweet a little bit. I'm not 1846 01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:26,479 Speaker 3: gonna lie. I'm not a huge dessert guy. I'm more salty, spicy, tight, 1847 01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,240 Speaker 3: but especially I mean all the meats. You know, those 1848 01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:31,760 Speaker 3: are these commercials. They really get to me. 1849 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:34,920 Speaker 2: Jeff, if your life dependent on it, who would you 1850 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,120 Speaker 2: trust more? Duke Tobin or Nick Krawl. 1851 01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:41,320 Speaker 22: Oh, I gotta go with Nick Krawl. 1852 01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,400 Speaker 3: And he's been getting a lot of flat this offseason, 1853 01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:48,760 Speaker 3: but I still believe that he's operating perfectly within the 1854 01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:52,120 Speaker 3: brute the blueprint that he has been given from those 1855 01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,000 Speaker 3: that give him his evaluation every single year. They're giving 1856 01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:56,840 Speaker 3: him a budget and he's just doing what he can 1857 01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:58,960 Speaker 3: do within that budget. 1858 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,280 Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on the Reds. Let 1859 01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:05,080 Speaker 1: me talk major League Baseball standpoint real quick, your opinion, 1860 01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,679 Speaker 1: because so many people when the news broke about Kyle Tucker, 1861 01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:10,960 Speaker 1: it's all the Dodgers. I hate the Dodgers. My stance is, 1862 01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,920 Speaker 1: I plead and I beg that the organization I root 1863 01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,519 Speaker 1: for spends more money. So I'm not going to criticize 1864 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,000 Speaker 1: an organization for inside that confine to the rule book 1865 01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,439 Speaker 1: to spend money. I'm not going to blame the Dodgers. 1866 01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:21,599 Speaker 23: Now. 1867 01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:24,360 Speaker 1: It might be a major League baseball point of problem. 1868 01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,639 Speaker 1: But when you hear that narrative of all the Dodgers 1869 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,240 Speaker 1: are ruining baseball or this and that, how do you 1870 01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:31,960 Speaker 1: view that when you see what happened last night with 1871 01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:32,559 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker. 1872 01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,880 Speaker 3: No, I don't think the Dodgers are ruining baseball. I 1873 01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:40,120 Speaker 3: think the I wouldn't say twenty nine other teams or 1874 01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,719 Speaker 3: you know, I don't think it's a total league problem. 1875 01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:46,439 Speaker 3: But there's definitely fifteen teams that are doing far more 1876 01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:48,800 Speaker 3: to ruin baseball than the Dodgers are. The Dodgers are 1877 01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,840 Speaker 3: taking advantage of an inequity, and they're taking advantage of 1878 01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,640 Speaker 3: a strategy that other teams just seem to completely punt on. 1879 01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:59,519 Speaker 3: Because if we heard a report tomorrow, but yeah, the 1880 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,720 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Reds ponied up twenty five million dollars a year 1881 01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,000 Speaker 3: for the next couple of years to Kyle Tucker in 1882 01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,920 Speaker 3: an offer. I don't think it would surprise any of 1883 01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:09,760 Speaker 3: us to hear that they were in on it, but 1884 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,040 Speaker 3: that twenty five million dollars would have been laughably lower 1885 01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,400 Speaker 3: than what the Blue Jays with the Mets, and definitely, 1886 01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:18,320 Speaker 3: of course what he ended up getting from the Dodgers 1887 01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:22,080 Speaker 3: would yet, because there are teams that are like the Reds, 1888 01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,640 Speaker 3: that approach free agency and approach the open market with 1889 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:31,360 Speaker 3: their own philosophy that is somehow irrespective of what other 1890 01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,639 Speaker 3: teams will do, and so they put values on guys 1891 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,120 Speaker 3: and they're like, this is the maximum value that we 1892 01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,600 Speaker 3: want to approach this guy with. And then you have 1893 01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:41,880 Speaker 3: teams like the Dodgers who are just like, yeah, no, 1894 01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,280 Speaker 3: we're gonna beat that, and it's not even gonna be close. 1895 01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:47,120 Speaker 3: And so you've got to figure out a way. And 1896 01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,519 Speaker 3: I don't think that a salary cap or salary floor 1897 01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:54,160 Speaker 3: necessarily solves the problem. I think it's a mentality shift 1898 01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:55,920 Speaker 3: and I don't know how you fix that. 1899 01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:59,679 Speaker 1: Let's let's go to the Reds because as the news 1900 01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,559 Speaker 1: brought and the Reds have moved on from Gavin Lux. 1901 01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:06,320 Speaker 1: Let me first ask you about the importance of losing 1902 01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:09,200 Speaker 1: to Gavin Lux, because I mentioned this earlier in the show. 1903 01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:11,439 Speaker 1: He had the fifth most at bats of any read 1904 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,200 Speaker 1: last year, the highest batting average. In fact, he was 1905 01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:16,840 Speaker 1: actually three three points higher than Kyle Tucker last year. 1906 01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,280 Speaker 1: Who had two sixty six. Gavin Lux hit two sixty nine, 1907 01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:22,400 Speaker 1: second on the team in doubles, fourth highest on base percentage, 1908 01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:24,479 Speaker 1: and in the final game of the year in the playoffs, 1909 01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:26,360 Speaker 1: in a must win game against the Dodgers that they 1910 01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:29,519 Speaker 1: ultimately didn't win, Terry Francono relied on him as the 1911 01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:34,400 Speaker 1: three hole hitter. So the loss of Gavin Lux, are 1912 01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,080 Speaker 1: we undervaluing that at all in your opinion? 1913 01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,240 Speaker 3: I don't think so, because I think he was miscast 1914 01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:42,240 Speaker 3: last year. I don't think he should have gotten five 1915 01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:46,080 Speaker 3: hundred at bats because he's a perfect you know, I 1916 01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:49,080 Speaker 3: called him last year multiple different times the King of 1917 01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:51,800 Speaker 3: the great piece of hitty, because he's going to give 1918 01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,559 Speaker 3: you a nice line drive in the gap that's worth 1919 01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,479 Speaker 3: a good single just about every time up. And that's 1920 01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,439 Speaker 3: why his on base percentage was so I that's why 1921 01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:02,080 Speaker 3: he's betting average. In year where batting average across the 1922 01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:05,120 Speaker 3: league was down the board, he was I think twenty 1923 01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:08,439 Speaker 3: five points higher than league average when it came to 1924 01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:12,760 Speaker 3: that statistic. So there's definitely something to his game, But 1925 01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,240 Speaker 3: I don't think his game fits for what the Reds need. 1926 01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,400 Speaker 3: Matt McLean's their second basement and they are going to 1927 01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,360 Speaker 3: run into twenty twenty six with that philosophy, come hell 1928 01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:25,160 Speaker 3: or high water until he proves them right or wrong. 1929 01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,479 Speaker 3: And that's the best defensive position for Gavin Luck. So 1930 01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:30,519 Speaker 3: then you're talking about, all right, well, he's probably going 1931 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,920 Speaker 3: to be the DH, but there's just not enough power 1932 01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:38,000 Speaker 3: at other positions to then also say the DH is 1933 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,720 Speaker 3: going to be a power vacuum as well, and the 1934 01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,000 Speaker 3: Reds need to figure out a way to supplement that. 1935 01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:46,160 Speaker 3: So I kind of feel like as he was played 1936 01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:49,000 Speaker 3: last year, he was miscast, so coming into this year 1937 01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,400 Speaker 3: he didn't really have a spot on this team. 1938 01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:56,519 Speaker 1: I watched your video today on X and you are 1939 01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:00,519 Speaker 1: as Charlie Goldsmith was earlier today very optim mystic that 1940 01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:04,240 Speaker 1: the move made last night while showing up the bullpen 1941 01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,519 Speaker 1: is a smaller step to a bigger move that this 1942 01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,880 Speaker 1: team and Nick Krawl is set to make. We often 1943 01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,920 Speaker 1: talk about equity on this show, and teams that okay, 1944 01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,559 Speaker 1: they've got build in equity because of how they've operated before. 1945 01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:21,120 Speaker 1: Why are you so confident that this is a smaller 1946 01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,599 Speaker 1: step in the bigger plan for Nick Krawl adding a bat. 1947 01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,280 Speaker 3: I think it's more so dollars and cents than it is, 1948 01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:29,960 Speaker 3: knowing who we're dealing with here, because I think they 1949 01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:34,000 Speaker 3: saved roughly it was just a little bit under three million, 1950 01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,960 Speaker 3: what in quite three million dollars training Gavin Lux for 1951 01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:39,880 Speaker 3: brock Burke, And so you add that into the pool 1952 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:41,960 Speaker 3: where I kind of feel like they had somewhere between 1953 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,760 Speaker 3: two and four million dollars left in the you know, 1954 01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:49,680 Speaker 3: proverbial budget that they've set for themselves, not necessarily in 1955 01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:51,720 Speaker 3: some sort of salary cap or anything like that, but 1956 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:54,040 Speaker 3: the make believe budget that has exists in the make 1957 01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:57,479 Speaker 3: believe financial world of Major League Baseball. And so when 1958 01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:00,679 Speaker 3: you add that all together, it would seem to believe, 1959 01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,560 Speaker 3: It would make me believe that they are not just 1960 01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:06,320 Speaker 3: going to sit on that money, because if they were 1961 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,639 Speaker 3: just gonna sit, then they were gonna keep Gavin Lux 1962 01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:10,760 Speaker 3: and they were gonna roll into the year with him 1963 01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:14,840 Speaker 3: being their primary DH or being some sort of rotational 1964 01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,760 Speaker 3: piece on the infield. And then that's fine, because we 1965 01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:20,880 Speaker 3: already heard that Nikral said that he wasn't going to 1966 01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:22,840 Speaker 3: be part of the outfield equation. He was just gonna 1967 01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:24,960 Speaker 3: be part of the infield equation. So then when they 1968 01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:28,000 Speaker 3: looked at that again, they like south Stewart Moore as 1969 01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:30,200 Speaker 3: a guy who can move around, They like Spencer Steer 1970 01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,920 Speaker 3: Moore as a guy who can move around, and they 1971 01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:36,320 Speaker 3: have a lot of faith in Matt McLain. So I 1972 01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:40,280 Speaker 3: feel like, knowing that they're taking Gavin Lucks off of 1973 01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:44,640 Speaker 3: the roster, they opened up a spot on either the 1974 01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,679 Speaker 3: bench or preferably the starting spot here in the lineup 1975 01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:51,720 Speaker 3: for DH or something like that, to go get a guy. 1976 01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,320 Speaker 3: And I think that they've just opened themselves up financially 1977 01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:56,479 Speaker 3: to do that. And so if they roll into opening 1978 01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:59,840 Speaker 3: day now without doing another thing, it's going to look 1979 01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:04,200 Speaker 3: almost like they made the team worse year over year, 1980 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,080 Speaker 3: rather than even just staying put. 1981 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,120 Speaker 2: What do you make of the Tyler Stevenson situation. Obviously 1982 01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:14,880 Speaker 2: no contract extension for him. I don't know if there's 1983 01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,160 Speaker 2: been many talks about it between the two sides at all. 1984 01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,400 Speaker 2: He's no longer appearing at Redsfest. Don't know if those 1985 01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:24,040 Speaker 2: two things are related. They didn't file at a close number. 1986 01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:27,080 Speaker 2: What do you make of that situation with Tyler Stevenson. 1987 01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:31,640 Speaker 3: I'd be shocked if this isn't his last year in Cincinnati. 1988 01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:34,920 Speaker 3: Based on the reports that we heard from last season 1989 01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:39,080 Speaker 3: whenever he was initially appreciate, he didn't even provide them 1990 01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,559 Speaker 3: with a counter offer. He thought so little of their 1991 01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:45,800 Speaker 3: initial attempt. And so when you look at the fact 1992 01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:47,760 Speaker 3: that they're going to arbitration over two hundred and fifty K, 1993 01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:52,920 Speaker 3: and he is not appearing at the premier event for 1994 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,599 Speaker 3: Reds fans to revel in whatever part of the team 1995 01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:59,400 Speaker 3: they want to revel in. He is not opening himself 1996 01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:02,240 Speaker 3: up to the fan, He's not opening himself up to 1997 01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,600 Speaker 3: the team. I expect a good year from him. I 1998 01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,120 Speaker 3: expect him to go out and perform really hard because 1999 01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:08,920 Speaker 3: he knows when he does that, he's going to get 2000 01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:10,040 Speaker 3: a bigger contract next year. 2001 01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:13,800 Speaker 1: In free agency, you mentioned, you know, going and getting 2002 01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:18,360 Speaker 1: a bat that the plan here. I'm curious what type 2003 01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,000 Speaker 1: of level bat they could find, whether it's a trader, 2004 01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:23,519 Speaker 1: whether it's free agency, because that to me, if the 2005 01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:26,560 Speaker 1: lux move happens and they've shared up the bullpen and 2006 01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:28,519 Speaker 1: you go make a splash, then you're like, oh man, 2007 01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,479 Speaker 1: this worked out great. But if we're talking about the 2008 01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:33,760 Speaker 1: ceiling of and Austin Hayes coming back to the team, 2009 01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,880 Speaker 1: then that really doesn't to me make the team better. 2010 01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:39,320 Speaker 1: Than what they were last year. So what player are 2011 01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,880 Speaker 1: you hoping or expecting can get done and brought into 2012 01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:43,479 Speaker 1: this lineup? 2013 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:44,640 Speaker 11: Now? 2014 01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:45,320 Speaker 2: I agree with that. 2015 01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,720 Speaker 3: I have seen some folks talking about Austin Hayes, and 2016 01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:52,320 Speaker 3: I'm not super enthused by that because I think we 2017 01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:54,720 Speaker 3: kind of know who he is. I would doubt that 2018 01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:57,479 Speaker 3: he would come in and have a much better season 2019 01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:59,960 Speaker 3: than what we saw. Albeit he could be more help, 2020 01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:03,240 Speaker 3: but even then you're just talking about his counting stats 2021 01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:05,160 Speaker 3: raising a little bit. I don't think his slash line 2022 01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:07,840 Speaker 3: gets much better. So I would rather than look at 2023 01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:10,720 Speaker 3: a guy like Reese Hoskins, a guy who had a 2024 01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,360 Speaker 3: couple of years where he was a bit injury prone 2025 01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:18,639 Speaker 3: in Milwaukee, but before that point in Philadelphia didn't deal 2026 01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,919 Speaker 3: with injuries all that much. And he's got some outfield experience, 2027 01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,800 Speaker 3: though I would expect defensively, he's much more valuable at 2028 01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:27,680 Speaker 3: first base, So he could be a DH sometimes he 2029 01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,559 Speaker 3: could be a first baseman. Sometimes that opens up more 2030 01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:32,920 Speaker 3: of a possibility for Spencer Steeer to spend more time 2031 01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,840 Speaker 3: in left field, and then South Stewart can also be 2032 01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:38,400 Speaker 3: kind of part of that rotation. But he's also a 2033 01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:41,360 Speaker 3: big power guy. Reece Hopkins profiles as a guy that 2034 01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:43,200 Speaker 3: over one hundred and sixty two games, if he were 2035 01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,840 Speaker 3: to play every game, he would hit over thirty home runs. 2036 01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:50,479 Speaker 3: And that's with his career experience being mostly in Philadelphia Milwaukee, 2037 01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:53,120 Speaker 3: so you can imagine thirty home runs would be a 2038 01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,720 Speaker 3: possibility at Great American Ballpark. So he would be a 2039 01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:58,040 Speaker 3: guy that I would think is looking for a proven deal, 2040 01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:01,160 Speaker 3: which is exactly in the wheelhouse else of this front office. 2041 01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,960 Speaker 3: That would be low risk with a really high upside 2042 01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,760 Speaker 3: kind of thing. But you could also actually pencil him 2043 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:09,640 Speaker 3: into the lineup, and I feel much better about that 2044 01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:12,200 Speaker 3: than a JJ Bladet or a Dan Myers. 2045 01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:16,160 Speaker 2: As far as a splash and maybe a trade, would 2046 01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,839 Speaker 2: you be open to trading what are the starting pitchers 2047 01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:19,880 Speaker 2: to get that beat? 2048 01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,400 Speaker 3: There'd be a few guys that I'd be interested that 2049 01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,760 Speaker 3: we've at least heard their names, although I know Nick 2050 01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:31,519 Speaker 3: Crawl's mo when it comes to trades, are the deal 2051 01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:33,800 Speaker 3: he makes is the deal that you've not heard about yet? 2052 01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:37,320 Speaker 3: But I would think that if they're offering up one 2053 01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:38,960 Speaker 3: of their starting pictures and we're thinking of the Big 2054 01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:43,400 Speaker 3: four between you know, Hunter Green, Nicolodolo, Andrew Rabbit or 2055 01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,599 Speaker 3: Brady Singer. Then I would really hope that we're talking 2056 01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:50,280 Speaker 3: about a guy like Jared Duran from Boston, or we're 2057 01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:53,640 Speaker 3: talking about a guy that Cautel Marte from Arizona. But 2058 01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:57,920 Speaker 3: we've heard multiple reports on both guys that both teams 2059 01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:01,200 Speaker 3: have taken those players off the trade blow. So I'm 2060 01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:04,439 Speaker 3: not necessarily sure as to how they would be able 2061 01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,680 Speaker 3: to pull off a deal that would make sense for 2062 01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:09,799 Speaker 3: one of those four, unless it was to trade Brady 2063 01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,920 Speaker 3: Singer for maybe a couple of prospects, free up that 2064 01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,839 Speaker 3: money and go get au Hanio Suarez. But again, Nickkral 2065 01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:19,519 Speaker 3: had some comments today after DeLux trade where he said 2066 01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:24,360 Speaker 3: that he's not really sure that the guy that will 2067 01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,800 Speaker 3: be their DH will be their everyday DH. I still 2068 01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:30,360 Speaker 3: think they look at that position as a rotational spot, 2069 01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:32,880 Speaker 3: and so I doubt that they would go get Gino 2070 01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:36,679 Speaker 3: because his glove doesn't profile good at any position. 2071 01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:41,479 Speaker 1: The team that finished the regular season and fell short 2072 01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,799 Speaker 1: in the playoffs in a two game series against the Dodgers. 2073 01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:48,439 Speaker 1: Is that team better or worse than what team will 2074 01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:50,639 Speaker 1: will be assembled as we get into reds Fast weekend. 2075 01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:55,200 Speaker 3: They're worse by virtue of not being better. I don't 2076 01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:57,720 Speaker 3: think they've done a lot to really make themselves a 2077 01:43:57,840 --> 01:43:59,640 Speaker 3: better team from where they were last season. I think 2078 01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,000 Speaker 3: you could argue that the pitching might actually be better, 2079 01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,719 Speaker 3: but you can definitely argue that the hitting is worse, 2080 01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,639 Speaker 3: and so that cancels each other out. And I think 2081 01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:10,439 Speaker 3: that if you're not getting better, you're getting worse. So 2082 01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:15,759 Speaker 3: they've got to make a move for a I struggle 2083 01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:18,840 Speaker 3: to say bonafidecause it kind of feels like where they 2084 01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:23,439 Speaker 3: are financially doesn't necessarily mean that they can go crazy 2085 01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:26,439 Speaker 3: bonafide with this next move, but somebody who at least 2086 01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:29,160 Speaker 3: makes us go, oh, this guy could really do something 2087 01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:34,280 Speaker 3: here with this team, and not just another JJ Bliday 2088 01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:36,479 Speaker 3: type move. And I don't even know that mcgualle Andrew 2089 01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:38,680 Speaker 3: horror moves that needle for me as well, because he's 2090 01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:40,840 Speaker 3: a guy that I've thought about it points this offseason. 2091 01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:44,559 Speaker 3: But if you're only getting one more guy, you need 2092 01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:45,960 Speaker 3: somebody better than mcgual and. 2093 01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:50,240 Speaker 1: Could not say it any better ourselves. Jeff, you mentioned 2094 01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:53,799 Speaker 1: Reds Fest and this weekend. Do you have a favorite 2095 01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,479 Speaker 1: part of Reds Fest that you do look forward to 2096 01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:57,280 Speaker 1: getting down there? 2097 01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,160 Speaker 3: It's just the people that I mean, I've had had 2098 01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:02,960 Speaker 3: chances to meet, you know, all kinds of different fans 2099 01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:05,599 Speaker 3: and all kinds of different broadcasters, and you know, run 2100 01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:09,120 Speaker 3: ins with players and things like that. It's so much 2101 01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:12,200 Speaker 3: fun to just kind of see some people. Because my 2102 01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:14,360 Speaker 3: two favorite stories that I always tell people are that, 2103 01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:16,439 Speaker 3: you know, I met Brett Tomko one time and he 2104 01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:19,880 Speaker 3: was just walking in between places. And it's not necessarily 2105 01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,559 Speaker 3: a real life situation because most people remember Brett Tomko 2106 01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:24,800 Speaker 3: is a pretty mid pitcher, but I played with him 2107 01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:28,960 Speaker 3: a lot I Kinger sixty four, and so that was 2108 01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,760 Speaker 3: really more so just for me. And then of course 2109 01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:33,639 Speaker 3: there was the time that I got an Odyssey two 2110 01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:35,720 Speaker 3: ball putter with a Red's logo on the face of 2111 01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:40,120 Speaker 3: it off the merch stand for fifty bucks. It's way 2112 01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,240 Speaker 3: better of a deal than you'll ever get on an 2113 01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:45,040 Speaker 3: Odyssey two ball putter. So you just never know what's 2114 01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:48,320 Speaker 3: gonna happen when you go down to the Cincinnati conventions. 2115 01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:50,640 Speaker 2: And of course you know Brett Tomko was in the 2116 01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:54,719 Speaker 2: Reds the Ken Griffy Junior trade. It's a historic player 2117 01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:56,800 Speaker 2: in that trade exactly. 2118 01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And and the last autograph I got Dan stra 2119 01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:05,160 Speaker 3: he brought in Luis Castill. I meet people when it 2120 01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:07,200 Speaker 3: comes to Jeff. 2121 01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:09,200 Speaker 2: Jeff is the first domino to fall. 2122 01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:11,400 Speaker 1: Jeff's gonna be He's gonna be at the bar tonight 2123 01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:13,160 Speaker 1: and and just be sitting there next to so much 2124 01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:15,160 Speaker 1: gonna be jj Budet and no one even knows who 2125 01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:15,439 Speaker 1: he is. 2126 01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,160 Speaker 2: If you if you see Jeff talking to Nicolo. 2127 01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:21,800 Speaker 1: On the move. 2128 01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:24,800 Speaker 3: But I don't get any more autographs any more. I 2129 01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:25,640 Speaker 3: don't want to curse that. 2130 01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,080 Speaker 1: Jeff, thanks so much for making time for us today. 2131 01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,960 Speaker 1: How can how can listeners follow along with everything going 2132 01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:34,479 Speaker 1: on in a very uh busy and and uh and 2133 01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:35,639 Speaker 1: big Reds off season. 2134 01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:38,800 Speaker 3: Appreciate you guys. We're gonna be all over the Reds 2135 01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:40,840 Speaker 3: the rest of the way, every single day over at 2136 01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:43,200 Speaker 3: Lockdown Reds. You can follow us on everywhere you get 2137 01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:46,240 Speaker 3: your podcasts, including the iHeartRadio app, and you can watch 2138 01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:48,479 Speaker 3: us on YouTube. You can also follow me on social 2139 01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:51,320 Speaker 3: media at Jeff Carr with three f's and that's on 2140 01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:54,760 Speaker 3: Twitter and on TikTok and just flip that around for 2141 01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:56,360 Speaker 3: my Instagram user name as well. 2142 01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:58,040 Speaker 2: Say hi to Steve for us as well. 2143 01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:01,240 Speaker 3: Yes, well do And you can yourselves if you come 2144 01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,679 Speaker 3: on down the convention days. 2145 01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:07,040 Speaker 1: I love it. Jeff, thanks so much for your time. Man, alright, 2146 01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:10,320 Speaker 1: we'll see you guys. He is that is Jeff Carr. 2147 01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,360 Speaker 1: Do we feel better now? We feel good where the 2148 01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:15,599 Speaker 1: Reds are uneasy? 2149 01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:15,800 Speaker 11: No? 2150 01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:17,360 Speaker 2: No, I I can't say that. 2151 01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:17,680 Speaker 23: I do. 2152 01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:20,280 Speaker 11: Know I was. 2153 01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:20,720 Speaker 15: I was. 2154 01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:25,080 Speaker 2: I'm so glad that that worked out, because, uh, you would. 2155 01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,600 Speaker 2: You had texted me this morning about getting Jeff on 2156 01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,920 Speaker 2: the show, and I said, do you want to reach 2157 01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:31,960 Speaker 2: out to him or do you want me to do it? 2158 01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,960 Speaker 2: And your text back really wasn't specific. You just said 2159 01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,760 Speaker 2: two pm. And so I thought you were asking me 2160 01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:43,080 Speaker 2: what time? I said, yeah, so I thought you reached 2161 01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:43,639 Speaker 2: out to Jeff. 2162 01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:45,479 Speaker 1: Yeah I had. I was in a big conversation here 2163 01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,519 Speaker 1: at work and then thankfully going on. 2164 01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:51,360 Speaker 2: Thankfully I double checked with him and hey, did Pike 2165 01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,200 Speaker 2: reach out to you? He said, no yet he said, 2166 01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:57,800 Speaker 2: well what about two o'clock? Thankfully was to make it, 2167 01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:02,360 Speaker 2: love it the thing. He's like Spencer Steer Man. You 2168 01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:05,200 Speaker 2: can put him anywhere you really can. My dream for 2169 01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,040 Speaker 2: Spencer Steer is to be Chris Bryant from ten years ago. 2170 01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:10,360 Speaker 2: You know, we're doing the whole twenty sixteen trend. 2171 01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:10,880 Speaker 17: Yeah. 2172 01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:15,240 Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen, Chris Bryant played left field, right field, first base, 2173 01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:19,240 Speaker 2: third base. He raked in the Cubs won the World Series. 2174 01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:22,040 Speaker 2: Spencer Steer twenty twenty six n L MVP. 2175 01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:25,240 Speaker 1: Oh boy, well that'd go right up there with your 2176 01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:27,760 Speaker 1: Matt McLean Bett from last year. So I'm just a 2177 01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:30,080 Speaker 1: big Spencer Steer guy. Why don't you go make that 2178 01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:32,559 Speaker 1: worried about him? And when we come back, we'll get 2179 01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,240 Speaker 1: Bob man Gene on the phone and we'll talk to 2180 01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:37,479 Speaker 1: him as well. Next on this the home of the 2181 01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:40,160 Speaker 1: Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 2182 01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:42,439 Speaker 5: Now, here's your chick. 2183 01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:45,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Rolled along our number three ESBN fifteen thirty 2184 01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:50,559 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's let's go to the University of Cincinnati. 2185 01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:53,120 Speaker 1: Let's head to Clifton. Our guy, Bob man Jean with 2186 01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:56,040 Speaker 1: the University of Cincinnati and novacare standing by as we 2187 01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:59,120 Speaker 1: get to talk to Bob each and every week. Bob 2188 01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:00,840 Speaker 1: man Gen, what's going on all buddy. 2189 01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:03,920 Speaker 15: Tony, how are you doing? You and Austin having a 2190 01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:04,320 Speaker 15: good week. 2191 01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,840 Speaker 1: It's a good week, been great, it was it was 2192 01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:11,240 Speaker 1: made even better Bob because University of Cincinnati, they got 2193 01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:13,400 Speaker 1: off the schneid, they get their first big twelve win 2194 01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:15,360 Speaker 1: and now maybe get a little bit of confidence and 2195 01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:17,519 Speaker 1: get the ball rolling into Iowa State tomorrow. 2196 01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:23,800 Speaker 15: Oh yeah, we kids played really well and everybody's pretty 2197 01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:25,960 Speaker 15: excited about getting that win. Now we just kind of 2198 01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:26,639 Speaker 15: put them together. 2199 01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:30,679 Speaker 1: I thought about you very early in the week, Bob 2200 01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:34,919 Speaker 1: and Mike Tomlin deciding to step down with the Pittsburgh Steelers. 2201 01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:40,160 Speaker 1: Where do you go from there? Nineteen winning seasons, never 2202 01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:42,880 Speaker 1: had a losing season, did Mike Tomlin? Where do you 2203 01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:45,439 Speaker 1: turn now? If you're the Pittsburgh Steelers in the head 2204 01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,640 Speaker 1: coaching search, Well, I. 2205 01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:51,599 Speaker 15: Think you're looking for somebody with experience in the playoffs, 2206 01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:54,040 Speaker 15: you know what I mean. It's like, you know, you've 2207 01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:56,599 Speaker 15: got to be able to win playoff games. It's one 2208 01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:59,320 Speaker 15: thing to have nineteen winning seasons, and that's all well 2209 01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:02,320 Speaker 15: and good, but you know, it's just like college sports. 2210 01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:06,760 Speaker 15: You know, it's not just about making the playoffs. It's 2211 01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:10,439 Speaker 15: winning some games in the playoffs. And you know again 2212 01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:13,439 Speaker 15: now that you have what is going to be next year, 2213 01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:17,240 Speaker 15: sixteen teams in college football playoffs next year from twelve, 2214 01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:20,040 Speaker 15: and it's not just going to be the coaches who 2215 01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:23,080 Speaker 15: can you know, get their team into the playoffs. It's 2216 01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:25,200 Speaker 15: going to be coaches you can put some games together, 2217 01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:27,760 Speaker 15: just like the NCAA tournament where you've got to put 2218 01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:31,519 Speaker 15: six games together in order to you know, to win 2219 01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:35,639 Speaker 15: it all. So yeah, there's winning seasons and then there's 2220 01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:39,479 Speaker 15: tournament seasons or bowl seasons. But at the same time, 2221 01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:43,439 Speaker 15: at some point, you know, coaches are judged based on, 2222 01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:46,600 Speaker 15: you know, what they do once you get them in 2223 01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:49,200 Speaker 15: a position to get in the playoffs. And you know, 2224 01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:53,200 Speaker 15: in today's world of you know, revenue sharing in IL, 2225 01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:57,479 Speaker 15: I think the pressure has gotten even more sown to 2226 01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:00,720 Speaker 15: college level. But certainly, being from Pitt Spur, I was 2227 01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:04,360 Speaker 15: not and I'll say this probably I'm not overly upset 2228 01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,400 Speaker 15: that Mike Tomlin is not there anymore. 2229 01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:11,599 Speaker 1: I'm curious because I was listening to Wes Miller's post 2230 01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:15,040 Speaker 1: game and he was just talking about the grind that 2231 01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:18,479 Speaker 1: is the Big twelve slate, not only the amount of 2232 01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:22,000 Speaker 1: games you're playing and how often you're playing in multiple 2233 01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:24,519 Speaker 1: games per week, but just the competition alone. I mean, 2234 01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:27,040 Speaker 1: you look at UC right now, getting ready to go 2235 01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:28,720 Speaker 1: through a set of games where you're playing the number 2236 01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:32,360 Speaker 1: one and number two team in the country, respectively. So 2237 01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:36,720 Speaker 1: to me, we often talk about rest, we often talk 2238 01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:39,639 Speaker 1: about recovery. We've not really shined a light yet though 2239 01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:44,360 Speaker 1: on the advancements in recovery and treatments. And I think 2240 01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:47,000 Speaker 1: back to when I was at the University of Cincinnati. 2241 01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:51,040 Speaker 1: It was stem ice heat and you kind of made 2242 01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:54,800 Speaker 1: that rotation as we were working through different injuries. And 2243 01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,920 Speaker 1: I know you guys still utilize that, but there have 2244 01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:00,479 Speaker 1: been so many advancements and you guys have now so 2245 01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:04,080 Speaker 1: much more equipment that is at these athletes disposal. Go 2246 01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:07,280 Speaker 1: into a little bit about the variation of what these 2247 01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:10,360 Speaker 1: athletes have at their disposal when you talk about rest 2248 01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:11,519 Speaker 1: and recovery and treatment. 2249 01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:15,479 Speaker 15: When you look at the field of physical therapy and 2250 01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:18,760 Speaker 15: the field of athletic training, so much has evolved in 2251 01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:23,880 Speaker 15: the last ten years fifteen years. Technologically, yeah, we still 2252 01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:27,160 Speaker 15: have our basic electrical stem and that now you turn 2253 01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:30,639 Speaker 15: on an electrical stem machine and you've got ten different 2254 01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:32,960 Speaker 15: options for what kind of current you want to use, 2255 01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:36,519 Speaker 15: from a high volt to electrical muscle stem to what 2256 01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:40,120 Speaker 15: we call premodulating current. So it's not like even when 2257 01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,400 Speaker 15: you played, when hey, you turn the machine on and 2258 01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:44,479 Speaker 15: you could adjust this, and you could just that a 2259 01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:48,200 Speaker 15: little bit. Nowadays we have different parameters based on am 2260 01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:52,679 Speaker 15: I in pregame, am I in postgame, my pre injury, 2261 01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:57,080 Speaker 15: and my post surgery, so that physical therapy now has 2262 01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:00,320 Speaker 15: quite a number of options. When you look at even 2263 01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:04,600 Speaker 15: is something as simple as basic electrical stimulation units, but 2264 01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:09,759 Speaker 15: you also still have things like ultrasound units. In today's world. 2265 01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:12,120 Speaker 15: In athletics, one of the things we've shifted to is 2266 01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:17,000 Speaker 15: what we call shockwave machines. These machines provide a little 2267 01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:20,560 Speaker 15: pulsing shock through the soft tissue. So if you have 2268 01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:25,080 Speaker 15: like chronic planner fasciatis, if you have chronic patellar tendinopathy, 2269 01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:29,200 Speaker 15: if you have chronic tennis elbow. The Europeans years ago 2270 01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,600 Speaker 15: have been used in shockwaven it's finally caught on in 2271 01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,920 Speaker 15: this country and even in athletic here we have three 2272 01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:41,280 Speaker 15: shockwave machines because we use them with good result in 2273 01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:45,920 Speaker 15: chronic pathology or even in some cases where you know 2274 01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:49,320 Speaker 15: you have a bone issue, a stress fracture, you can 2275 01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:52,679 Speaker 15: use some general shockwave you Like I said, you still 2276 01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:56,479 Speaker 15: have the option for ultrasound, which has been a staple 2277 01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:00,360 Speaker 15: within the physiotherapy market. But when you start talking recovery 2278 01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,519 Speaker 15: and like, for example, I had an athlete who had 2279 01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:07,519 Speaker 15: a back injury, back problems, you know, we immediately started 2280 01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:10,920 Speaker 15: putting him in the float tank. The float tank in 2281 01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:13,799 Speaker 15: the city of Cincinnati, there's like three or four float 2282 01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:19,439 Speaker 15: salons now. The float tank is a water based program 2283 01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:24,200 Speaker 15: with a thousand pounds of salt Ebsen salt and basically 2284 01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:28,120 Speaker 15: you literally, like it sounds, you float and it's like 2285 01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:31,960 Speaker 15: being floating in the dead sea. One hour sleep in 2286 01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:36,280 Speaker 15: a float tank equals four hours of rem sleep. So 2287 01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:39,680 Speaker 15: if you want to talk about a recovery modality, it's 2288 01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:43,600 Speaker 15: a great recovery modality after injury. And right now, for example, 2289 01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:48,280 Speaker 15: I've got two guys specifically that that float pretty frequently 2290 01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:51,920 Speaker 15: because it calms them down, It calms muscle tissue down. 2291 01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:55,400 Speaker 15: And then in the last five years we've worked really hard. 2292 01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:58,879 Speaker 15: About eight years ago, we started into a research project 2293 01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:02,720 Speaker 15: with the military effort Rightpad Air Force Base in josh 2294 01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:07,960 Speaker 15: Hagen using red light therapy and now red light is 2295 01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:11,240 Speaker 15: big in basketball. We got a red light sono machine 2296 01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:13,440 Speaker 15: down in the main training room. We got a four 2297 01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:17,680 Speaker 15: bed which is literally like it sounds a bad, it 2298 01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:20,760 Speaker 15: looks like a suntanning bad. That's all red light, and 2299 01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:26,120 Speaker 15: red light is shown to improve mitochondrial reaction within soft tissue. 2300 01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:31,520 Speaker 15: And the Navy CEOs uism US Track and Field WWE 2301 01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:35,240 Speaker 15: has ten of Mountain their one training facility in which 2302 01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:37,720 Speaker 15: you can use the red light pre practice and then 2303 01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,320 Speaker 15: you can use the red light post practice and it 2304 01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:45,640 Speaker 15: helps reduce the effect of the effect on the muscle. 2305 01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:51,000 Speaker 15: So you're getting more and more options within our field 2306 01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:56,440 Speaker 15: for recovery but also injury management. And we're seeing like 2307 01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:59,400 Speaker 15: right now, we went out and I now have a 2308 01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:03,520 Speaker 15: hyperbar chamber. So everybody remembers years ago, I think it 2309 01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:08,680 Speaker 15: was Terrell Owens after his ACL preached and preached about 2310 01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:15,080 Speaker 15: hyperbar chambers. And this past summer, after looking at some data, well, no, 2311 01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:17,600 Speaker 15: two summers ago, I'm sorry, after looking at some data, 2312 01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:21,360 Speaker 15: we decided to try hyperbarer chamber. And now I've got 2313 01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:25,280 Speaker 15: three guys who used the hyperbaric chamber probably every you know, 2314 01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:27,960 Speaker 15: three or four weeks, and if I have an injury, 2315 01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:32,480 Speaker 15: they're automatically in the hyperbaric chamber for every other day 2316 01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:36,640 Speaker 15: for thirty to forty five minutes. So there are different 2317 01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:42,280 Speaker 15: modalities out there that have established themselves as really assisting 2318 01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:46,600 Speaker 15: you know, patients with recovery, athletes who are trying to 2319 01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:49,680 Speaker 15: recover from the next game. And like I said, the 2320 01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:54,000 Speaker 15: fear of physical therapy has really evolved, and that's one 2321 01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:58,480 Speaker 15: of the reasons in a select medical slash novacare system 2322 01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:02,320 Speaker 15: we have started to look it's centers. They're specifically designed 2323 01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:05,760 Speaker 15: for sports and athletes, so that you know, we have 2324 01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:10,960 Speaker 15: certified clinics now that you know predominantly do a lot 2325 01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:14,200 Speaker 15: of the athletes around town or they come down here 2326 01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:17,640 Speaker 15: to the university and you know the staff here, you know, 2327 01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:21,880 Speaker 15: Abby and Jason and Jim just do a great job. 2328 01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:24,880 Speaker 15: You know, Danny does a great job down on the 2329 01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:28,000 Speaker 15: second floor. So there's a lot of options, but I 2330 01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:30,720 Speaker 15: really like Shockwave that it's been a big game changer 2331 01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:36,000 Speaker 15: for us. And then lastly there's laser Hot Laser high 2332 01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:41,080 Speaker 15: level laser, again another European product that we've evolved over 2333 01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:43,480 Speaker 15: here over the last I think the first lasers I 2334 01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:46,400 Speaker 15: bought were when Brian Kelly was here and you were 2335 01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:49,440 Speaker 15: using the lasers pray don't remember it, but you know, 2336 01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:52,040 Speaker 15: the bottom line is lasers have found have been very, 2337 01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:55,560 Speaker 15: very beneficial when it comes to soft tissue healing. They 2338 01:57:55,600 --> 01:58:00,560 Speaker 15: were initially designed for wound healing after surgery, burned patients, 2339 01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:04,520 Speaker 15: things like that, and we've discovered over the years that 2340 01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:08,640 Speaker 15: they also will help with like and you know, ligament injuries, 2341 01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:13,680 Speaker 15: tendon injuries, for recovery. So we have it's so much 2342 01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,520 Speaker 15: different with so many options in the timing of when 2343 01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:20,240 Speaker 15: you do them, but the fewer. Physio therapy has really 2344 01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:23,280 Speaker 15: really evolved in the last ten years, especially, I. 2345 01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:27,480 Speaker 1: Know cryotherapy is popping up everywhere right now the intense cold, 2346 01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:30,680 Speaker 1: But for those Bob that don't have access at the 2347 01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:34,560 Speaker 1: collegiate level or the facility level, I don't think you know, 2348 01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:37,920 Speaker 1: for the high school athlete, you can't go wrong either 2349 01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:41,160 Speaker 1: with just heat and ice. I mean, I know that 2350 01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:44,760 Speaker 1: it's old school, but at the same time, the benefits 2351 01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:47,920 Speaker 1: of high school athletes going through the rigors of a 2352 01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:51,440 Speaker 1: season and quick turnarounds, heat and ice still provide a 2353 01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:53,520 Speaker 1: lot for an athlete that may not be able to 2354 01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:56,440 Speaker 1: get all the bells and whistles that you just spoke of. 2355 01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:00,560 Speaker 15: Well, that's just it is some of the basics we 2356 01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:03,440 Speaker 15: still do, Tony, I mean, after practice the kids still 2357 01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:06,800 Speaker 15: contrast hot tub, cold tub, hot tub cold tub. You know, 2358 01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:09,360 Speaker 15: I'm a high school kid, and my legs were getting sore. 2359 01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:12,560 Speaker 15: You know, go home, fill the bathroom, bathtub up with 2360 01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:16,600 Speaker 15: you know, with some ice, water and just soap for 2361 01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:20,360 Speaker 15: eight three to eight minutes, take that water out, and 2362 01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:23,280 Speaker 15: then put some hot water with some salt in, and 2363 01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:26,640 Speaker 15: then when you're done, stretch. So the biggest thing the 2364 01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:30,440 Speaker 15: kids don't do is stretch. So you know, if I 2365 01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:32,720 Speaker 15: had a high school kid right now, you know, they 2366 01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:35,040 Speaker 15: got home from practice, they'd be in the cold tub 2367 01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:37,760 Speaker 15: for about three minutes, get the bathtub filled up with 2368 01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:41,040 Speaker 15: some ice, drain that out, and then convert it over 2369 01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:45,000 Speaker 15: to absent salt for about eight minutes, and then get 2370 01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:47,680 Speaker 15: out and you get And here's what everybody can buy, 2371 01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:50,800 Speaker 15: but they won't do it because it's work. Everybody can 2372 01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:53,400 Speaker 15: buy a rubber band for stretching, a stretch band. You 2373 01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:56,000 Speaker 15: can buy them in Amazon. You can buy a foam 2374 01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:59,480 Speaker 15: roller for nineteen ninety five on Amazon. A good foam roller. 2375 02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:02,240 Speaker 15: Get your butt down on the floor and pham roll 2376 02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:05,800 Speaker 15: and stretch after you do the Epsen salt. So people 2377 02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:08,640 Speaker 15: don't want to do that, you know, now, they open 2378 02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:12,080 Speaker 15: up stretch labs. And that's how lazy the American society 2379 02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:14,440 Speaker 15: has gotten. Is get your butt on the floor and 2380 02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:18,080 Speaker 15: stretch and roll. But do the do the Eppsen salt 2381 02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:21,000 Speaker 15: so first, or you know, do the cold tub buy 2382 02:00:21,080 --> 02:00:22,880 Speaker 15: a high school kid. That's what they be doing every 2383 02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:24,400 Speaker 15: day after after practice. 2384 02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bob man Jean from the University of Cincinnati and Novacare. 2385 02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Awesome stuff, Bob, as always, thank you for your time 2386 02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:34,440 Speaker 1: and uh, good luck tomorrow. Get a win against the cyclones. 2387 02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:38,360 Speaker 15: Hey, we're we're getting ramped up here at CROWLP thirty 2388 02:00:38,440 --> 02:00:41,000 Speaker 15: and get ready to you know, game plan and get 2389 02:00:42,040 --> 02:00:45,840 Speaker 15: get our strategies in. So Coach Miller is really in 2390 02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:47,920 Speaker 15: his staff. I've done a great job in the last 2391 02:00:48,280 --> 02:00:50,800 Speaker 15: you know, the last couple of years, and we're we're 2392 02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:52,280 Speaker 15: we're gonna give it a shot. Tony. 2393 02:00:52,520 --> 02:00:52,920 Speaker 1: I love it. 2394 02:00:53,200 --> 02:00:53,600 Speaker 10: I love it. 2395 02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:54,280 Speaker 1: Bob. 2396 02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:54,560 Speaker 10: Thank you. 2397 02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:55,400 Speaker 1: We'll talk next week. 2398 02:00:56,600 --> 02:00:59,200 Speaker 15: Keta mar TONI good weekend, Austin. 2399 02:00:59,440 --> 02:00:59,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, Bob. 2400 02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:01,920 Speaker 15: And I'm still not a Mike Tomlin. 2401 02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:08,200 Speaker 1: Sand That is Bob Manjean the University of Cincinnati and Novacare. 2402 02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:09,960 Speaker 1: If you're experiencing on one of makes and pains, you 2403 02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:11,880 Speaker 1: don't need that this time of the year. 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We're an hour number three since e three 2410 02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:32,600 Speaker 1: sixty on the Home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty. 2411 02:01:37,080 --> 02:01:40,560 Speaker 2: Tony, do you think it's a little weird that the 2412 02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:45,080 Speaker 2: John Harball deal is not yet done with the New 2413 02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:45,800 Speaker 2: York Giants? 2414 02:01:46,840 --> 02:01:49,280 Speaker 1: I thought a little bit maybe, because then you saw 2415 02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:51,320 Speaker 1: the reports that kind of immediately came out that that 2416 02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:54,440 Speaker 1: Harball is going to bring Todd Mounkin, Like there is 2417 02:01:54,520 --> 02:01:58,880 Speaker 1: a there has to be something there like Harball that 2418 02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:00,560 Speaker 1: was I think one of the sticks points in the 2419 02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:02,680 Speaker 1: original report from Baltimore is they wanted to move on 2420 02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:04,720 Speaker 1: from Monkin and hardballs, like now we're not doing that, 2421 02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:08,320 Speaker 1: and now he's adamant apparently that he wants to bring 2422 02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:11,000 Speaker 1: Todd Mounkin to the Giants as well. I wonder if 2423 02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:14,960 Speaker 1: that type of power, those types of decisions are something 2424 02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:17,680 Speaker 1: that that is maybe non negotiable for him. 2425 02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:20,280 Speaker 2: Do you think that maybe the Los Angeles Dodgers have 2426 02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:22,360 Speaker 2: come in at the last minute with an offer. 2427 02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:25,000 Speaker 1: I could see something like that as well. Maybe the 2428 02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:26,160 Speaker 1: Dodgers have swooped in. 2429 02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:29,800 Speaker 2: I feel like LA could be in play there just 2430 02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:30,600 Speaker 2: an interest of. 2431 02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:37,680 Speaker 1: The number two ranked Iowa state Cyclones are coming into 2432 02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:41,120 Speaker 1: fifth third tomorrow. Any guess what the line has been 2433 02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:45,400 Speaker 1: said at I have no idea six and a half, 2434 02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:51,400 Speaker 1: six and a half. I don't trust anything anymore with 2435 02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:56,920 Speaker 1: this point shaven stuff. M It's just a little odd 2436 02:02:57,040 --> 02:02:57,200 Speaker 1: to me. 2437 02:02:58,240 --> 02:03:00,360 Speaker 2: Now, that's what you said about Colorado. 2438 02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:01,880 Speaker 1: I did. I said that about Houston as well, and 2439 02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:03,720 Speaker 1: that was a sixty to sixty game with the under 2440 02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:07,440 Speaker 1: four minute mark. So it's gonna be interesting tomorrow. I 2441 02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:10,640 Speaker 1: think there is something to be said about the idea 2442 02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:13,160 Speaker 1: of kind of getting the monkey off your back and 2443 02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:17,400 Speaker 1: getting a win down the stretch and not having to 2444 02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:19,640 Speaker 1: worry about when's the when's the first big twelve win 2445 02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:22,000 Speaker 1: gonna happen? Blah blah blah. I think there is something 2446 02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:23,920 Speaker 1: to maybe playing a little bit more looser, maybe a 2447 02:03:23,960 --> 02:03:28,320 Speaker 1: little more free. But uh, certainly I think has spread 2448 02:03:28,360 --> 02:03:29,640 Speaker 1: that a lot of people are going to take note of. 2449 02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:32,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't see this. I don't 2450 02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:34,240 Speaker 1: think the numbers out yet for the Norse, but I 2451 02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:37,320 Speaker 1: would I would imagine the Norse. If the point shaving 2452 02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:39,040 Speaker 1: has gone, the Norse are going to be big favorites. 2453 02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:42,960 Speaker 1: You would think there's comfortable favorites. Yeah, comfort comfort in 2454 02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:45,680 Speaker 1: where the Norse will be. Have they played Robert Morris 2455 02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:46,240 Speaker 1: yet this year? 2456 02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what was one of those games. 2457 02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:52,320 Speaker 1: I was already, Yes, that was a game. They beat 2458 02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:55,640 Speaker 1: Robert Morris, beat him like a drum. No, they didn't. 2459 02:03:55,800 --> 02:03:56,800 Speaker 1: They beat him by two. 2460 02:03:56,840 --> 02:03:59,240 Speaker 2: Like a Grand Canyon mule. They beat him in the 2461 02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:01,240 Speaker 2: first half because they were shaving points. 2462 02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:03,600 Speaker 1: That's right. Where are things out in the horizon right now? 2463 02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:05,840 Speaker 1: Right States on top? 2464 02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 2465 02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:08,440 Speaker 2: Right State always plays well at this time of the year. 2466 02:04:09,080 --> 02:04:11,480 Speaker 1: And how about Green Bay? How about Doug Gottlib. 2467 02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:15,080 Speaker 2: I know, knocked off NKU he started focusing on basketball 2468 02:04:15,120 --> 02:04:16,800 Speaker 2: instead of doing a radio show. I think that just 2469 02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:18,400 Speaker 2: goes to show how difficult. 2470 02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:20,360 Speaker 1: It is to do radio. It's a it's hard to do. 2471 02:04:21,680 --> 02:04:24,440 Speaker 2: How much work and effort really goes. 2472 02:04:24,640 --> 02:04:28,800 Speaker 1: On a daily bay I mean nighttime, daytime, morning, evening. 2473 02:04:29,400 --> 02:04:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's always work, yeah, always putting it together. 2474 02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:37,360 Speaker 1: Our work is coming to a close for this week. 2475 02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:41,600 Speaker 1: Mowegger's work is just getting ready to get started. Mowager 2476 02:04:41,600 --> 02:04:44,760 Speaker 1: will join us for quick hits. I'm a when we return, 2477 02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:47,480 Speaker 1: as we passed the baton to the Mowegger Show, coming 2478 02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:52,000 Speaker 1: up next on ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. Right now, Mo, 2479 02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:52,720 Speaker 1: what's going on? 2480 02:04:53,920 --> 02:04:54,200 Speaker 2: Tony? 2481 02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:55,760 Speaker 5: How are we doing? Austin, how are we doing? What's 2482 02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:56,040 Speaker 5: going on? 2483 02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:59,000 Speaker 2: Fantastic, wonderful. I miss Gavin Lux already. 2484 02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:01,480 Speaker 5: What do you miss about him? 2485 02:05:01,640 --> 02:05:03,840 Speaker 2: I just missed like making fun of his name. And 2486 02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:06,400 Speaker 2: you know I always used to walk around the apartment saying, 2487 02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:07,360 Speaker 2: Gavin Lucks. 2488 02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:10,240 Speaker 1: How about you missed the three hole hitter from the 2489 02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:12,200 Speaker 1: final game of the season for the Reds. 2490 02:05:13,120 --> 02:05:15,120 Speaker 5: I miss hearing about how you know he won a 2491 02:05:15,160 --> 02:05:16,400 Speaker 5: World Series with the Dodgers. 2492 02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:17,880 Speaker 2: I brought that up earlier. 2493 02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:21,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, a lot about how he you know he 2494 02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:24,520 Speaker 5: he won a World Series with the Dodgers. So did 2495 02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:26,560 Speaker 5: Ben Wurtvett, the catching. 2496 02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:31,360 Speaker 1: Now, obviously the move has made Gavin Lux is gone. 2497 02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:36,440 Speaker 1: They have they've bolstered the bullpen, their staff top to 2498 02:05:36,520 --> 02:05:39,840 Speaker 1: bottom starter's relievers should be very very good top end 2499 02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:44,520 Speaker 1: in baseball. That being said, this movement has to signify 2500 02:05:44,600 --> 02:05:46,680 Speaker 1: that they are going to make another move for a bat. 2501 02:05:47,880 --> 02:05:51,800 Speaker 5: Feels like it, right? I mean it, They tried to 2502 02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:53,720 Speaker 5: make a move for a bat. They didn't get it, 2503 02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:56,040 Speaker 5: so that would tell you they will probably try to 2504 02:05:56,120 --> 02:05:57,880 Speaker 5: keep making a move for a bat. Maybe now they 2505 02:05:58,000 --> 02:05:59,520 Speaker 5: freed up some coin to go make a move for 2506 02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:02,240 Speaker 5: a beat. By the way, here's my question. Is the 2507 02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:06,280 Speaker 5: only time the word bolstered is used when we're talking 2508 02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:07,000 Speaker 5: about bullpens. 2509 02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:09,000 Speaker 1: I've never used it before. 2510 02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:13,320 Speaker 5: Nobody ever says like I bolstered my food supply by 2511 02:06:13,400 --> 02:06:14,440 Speaker 5: going to the grocery store. 2512 02:06:15,880 --> 02:06:18,080 Speaker 2: Do we hear it a little bit of pass rush, 2513 02:06:18,160 --> 02:06:19,680 Speaker 2: don't we? You bolster the pass rus? 2514 02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:22,280 Speaker 5: Well, you do bolster a pass rush? That is true? 2515 02:06:22,840 --> 02:06:24,440 Speaker 1: Can you both in real life? 2516 02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:24,560 Speaker 17: No? 2517 02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:25,800 Speaker 1: Can you bolster the bench? 2518 02:06:27,160 --> 02:06:27,280 Speaker 28: Well? 2519 02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:29,600 Speaker 5: I guess you can, but I I feel like that 2520 02:06:29,800 --> 02:06:32,200 Speaker 5: the times you're right, Austin, I think the two times 2521 02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:36,920 Speaker 5: we only use the word bolstered is if we're talking 2522 02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:40,640 Speaker 5: about a bullpen or a pass rush. In real life, 2523 02:06:40,720 --> 02:06:44,480 Speaker 5: the word bolstered is never used. Like nobody says, Hey, 2524 02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:46,840 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go make a beer run so I can 2525 02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:48,080 Speaker 5: bolster up for the party. 2526 02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:53,600 Speaker 1: What were would word? Would whoa? What word I might 2527 02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:56,040 Speaker 1: have a hold on, Give me a second. What word 2528 02:06:56,120 --> 02:06:59,240 Speaker 1: would you use to describe the lineup for the Los 2529 02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:00,000 Speaker 1: Angeles Dodgers? 2530 02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:05,280 Speaker 5: Incredible? Insane, and I, I say bolstered. 2531 02:07:05,480 --> 02:07:08,760 Speaker 1: I think we're in agreement with this, mon't. I don't 2532 02:07:08,760 --> 02:07:11,720 Speaker 1: blame the Dodgers for this. Like I said today, I 2533 02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:15,880 Speaker 1: on a weekly basis, at least implore the teams that 2534 02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:17,640 Speaker 1: I root for to spend more money and be more 2535 02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:20,400 Speaker 1: aggressive pursuing a championship. So how could I yell at 2536 02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:24,120 Speaker 1: a team that's doing so elsewhere within the confines the rules. 2537 02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:27,160 Speaker 5: They're playing by the rules that everybody agreed to. They're 2538 02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:28,960 Speaker 5: playing by the rules that everybody had a chance to 2539 02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:31,480 Speaker 5: rewrite a couple of years ago and will try to rewrite. 2540 02:07:31,480 --> 02:07:31,600 Speaker 3: Now. 2541 02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:34,160 Speaker 5: See, we're going to talk about this today because here's 2542 02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:39,200 Speaker 5: Baseball's problem. In order for things to change, it's going 2543 02:07:39,240 --> 02:07:42,360 Speaker 5: to have to go away, probably for a very very 2544 02:07:42,440 --> 02:07:45,440 Speaker 5: long time. That's the only solution. Like we're going to 2545 02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:50,040 Speaker 5: have a lockout now, you know, maybe the lockout doesn't 2546 02:07:50,120 --> 02:07:52,560 Speaker 5: keep the season next year from starting on time. But 2547 02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:56,000 Speaker 5: it feels like if things are we've had lockouts, we've 2548 02:07:56,040 --> 02:07:59,880 Speaker 5: had strikes, we've had work stoppages that have canceled the 2549 02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:03,640 Speaker 5: World Series, We've had work stoppages that didn't impact any games, 2550 02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:10,280 Speaker 5: and yet baseball's economic issues aren't fixed. And this is 2551 02:08:10,440 --> 02:08:14,040 Speaker 5: hard for me to admit because I don't like salary caps. 2552 02:08:14,480 --> 02:08:16,880 Speaker 5: I'm a free market guy. I think everybody should be 2553 02:08:16,880 --> 02:08:19,360 Speaker 5: able to go get every dime they can. But you 2554 02:08:19,480 --> 02:08:22,400 Speaker 5: have to listen to your customers, and there are a 2555 02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:25,640 Speaker 5: lot of customers of the sport who feel like my 2556 02:08:25,800 --> 02:08:28,960 Speaker 5: team has no chance, and thus my level of interest 2557 02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:32,240 Speaker 5: in the sport is compromised. The one thing the NFL 2558 02:08:32,320 --> 02:08:35,000 Speaker 5: has going for it more than anything else, and the 2559 02:08:35,160 --> 02:08:38,080 Speaker 5: NFL has a lot going for it. Football does an 2560 02:08:38,080 --> 02:08:40,600 Speaker 5: amazing job of making you feel like your team has 2561 02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:47,480 Speaker 5: a shot. Yep, it's awesome in that regard Baseball. Unfortunately, 2562 02:08:47,560 --> 02:08:51,240 Speaker 5: there are legions of fans, generations of fans who feel 2563 02:08:51,280 --> 02:08:53,200 Speaker 5: like my team doesn't have a chance, and if we 2564 02:08:53,400 --> 02:08:57,680 Speaker 5: do have a chance, it's almost an outlier. And so 2565 02:08:58,280 --> 02:09:02,880 Speaker 5: that's a problem. That perception may not reflect truth, but 2566 02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:06,240 Speaker 5: As long as people are operating under that perception, baseball 2567 02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:09,480 Speaker 5: has an issue. And then the other issue is what 2568 02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:12,360 Speaker 5: we just talked about, which is for there to be changed, 2569 02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:15,360 Speaker 5: the sport's gonna have to go away. And I hate 2570 02:09:15,400 --> 02:09:17,680 Speaker 5: to say that, like, that's not good. Trust me, it's 2571 02:09:17,680 --> 02:09:19,800 Speaker 5: not good for anybody. No, it's not good for people 2572 02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:22,640 Speaker 5: who work for baseball teams, it's not good for sports 2573 02:09:22,720 --> 02:09:25,720 Speaker 5: talk radio hosts. It's it's it's not good for anybody. 2574 02:09:26,240 --> 02:09:28,920 Speaker 5: But in the absence of that, how do how do 2575 02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:32,600 Speaker 5: things change? And I think that's the central question that 2576 02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:34,480 Speaker 5: this sport is wrestling with. But to get back to 2577 02:09:34,520 --> 02:09:37,640 Speaker 5: your earlier premise, the Dodgers are playing by the agreed 2578 02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:40,080 Speaker 5: upon rules. I have no issue with anybody playing by 2579 02:09:40,120 --> 02:09:41,040 Speaker 5: the agreed upon rules. 2580 02:09:42,080 --> 02:09:44,240 Speaker 1: What else do you have coming up on the show today? 2581 02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:46,040 Speaker 5: I think I just gave it to you. 2582 02:09:47,440 --> 02:09:48,080 Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Mo. 2583 02:09:49,960 --> 02:09:51,760 Speaker 5: Travis Steel is going to be on the show. I 2584 02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:56,400 Speaker 5: believe at four thirty five that may move, But we're 2585 02:09:56,400 --> 02:09:59,640 Speaker 5: going to talk with the men's basketball coach at Miami University, 2586 02:09:59,680 --> 02:10:03,160 Speaker 5: one of three undefeated teams in the sport. I am 2587 02:10:03,400 --> 02:10:06,120 Speaker 5: I'm looking forward looking forward to that. We'll look ahead 2588 02:10:06,200 --> 02:10:10,440 Speaker 5: to the divisional round of the NFL Playoffs. We'll try 2589 02:10:10,520 --> 02:10:13,040 Speaker 5: to come up with a solution. I think last night 2590 02:10:13,120 --> 02:10:17,320 Speaker 5: the Kyle Tucker news was a tipping point. I think 2591 02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:20,720 Speaker 5: I think last night was a tipping point for people's 2592 02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:24,240 Speaker 5: relationship with this sport. And so it's gonna be interesting 2593 02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:28,080 Speaker 5: to me to see how this sport as an institution responds. 2594 02:10:28,600 --> 02:10:31,040 Speaker 5: I've got a few Bengals odds and ends, look ahead 2595 02:10:31,040 --> 02:10:33,560 Speaker 5: to the weekend in college basketball, and so much more. 2596 02:10:33,640 --> 02:10:35,360 Speaker 1: How do you feel about six and a half tomorrow 2597 02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:36,080 Speaker 1: for the Bearcats? 2598 02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:38,960 Speaker 5: Not awesome? 2599 02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:39,960 Speaker 3: Not great? 2600 02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:43,360 Speaker 5: It is applying Iowa State coming off a loss. 2601 02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, is there a path and if so, what is 2602 02:10:45,720 --> 02:10:48,680 Speaker 1: it for them to shock the number two team in 2603 02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:50,800 Speaker 1: the country tomorrow? I mean they haven't. They haven't. They're 2604 02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:52,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to, Yeah, I mean this would be Wes 2605 02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:54,400 Speaker 1: Miller still looking for really the marquee win. 2606 02:10:55,400 --> 02:10:57,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, this would be the signature win. They're gonna have 2607 02:10:57,880 --> 02:11:01,120 Speaker 5: to go crazy from behind the arc. I think they're 2608 02:11:01,160 --> 02:11:04,560 Speaker 5: gonna have to find ways to win in transition. And then, 2609 02:11:04,640 --> 02:11:08,200 Speaker 5: let's face it, if they if they beat Iowa State, 2610 02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:10,760 Speaker 5: it's gonna be because they execute in the final three 2611 02:11:10,840 --> 02:11:13,680 Speaker 5: to four minutes, Like, Okay, Cincinnati's gonna beat Iowa State. 2612 02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:15,480 Speaker 5: Are they gonna blow them out? Probably not, So they 2613 02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:19,680 Speaker 5: have to win a close upset. If you do that, 2614 02:11:19,800 --> 02:11:22,440 Speaker 5: that tells me if you have executed in the final 2615 02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:25,120 Speaker 5: three to four minutes and if maybe found somebody who 2616 02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:26,880 Speaker 5: can go and get you buckets. Like the other night 2617 02:11:26,920 --> 02:11:30,640 Speaker 5: it was Dayde Thomas. Is he that guy? Two point game, 2618 02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:32,400 Speaker 5: three minutes to go against the number two team in 2619 02:11:32,440 --> 02:11:33,960 Speaker 5: the country. Is dayd A Thomas the guy? If not, 2620 02:11:34,040 --> 02:11:37,000 Speaker 5: who is? But I think they're gonna have to just 2621 02:11:37,120 --> 02:11:40,560 Speaker 5: go crazy offensively. Look, this is a really good defensive 2622 02:11:40,560 --> 02:11:44,280 Speaker 5: team Cincinnati, Like your eyeballs tell you that, and the 2623 02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:47,280 Speaker 5: metrics tell you that. Now maybe some don't want to 2624 02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:50,160 Speaker 5: acknowledge that, and many will say, well, it doesn't matter 2625 02:11:50,200 --> 02:11:53,520 Speaker 5: if you're not winning, but they do play good defense. 2626 02:11:53,960 --> 02:11:58,200 Speaker 5: Their issues are on the offensive end. Suddenly against Iowa State, 2627 02:11:58,280 --> 02:12:00,840 Speaker 5: their offensive issues have to basicly go away, and they've 2628 02:12:00,880 --> 02:12:02,760 Speaker 5: got to figure out a way to execute down the stretch. 2629 02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:05,480 Speaker 5: But I think it's gonna be a fun atmosphere tomorrow. 2630 02:12:05,720 --> 02:12:09,080 Speaker 5: And you know, West has been in a lot of 2631 02:12:09,160 --> 02:12:12,080 Speaker 5: these games. If he's in this one late, do they 2632 02:12:12,200 --> 02:12:13,920 Speaker 5: make the plays down the stretch they need, and. 2633 02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:16,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned a team that struggles offensively. It's a good 2634 02:12:16,760 --> 02:12:20,760 Speaker 1: defense in Iowa state as well. I spent just under 2635 02:12:20,800 --> 02:12:24,400 Speaker 1: ten minutes yesterday afternoon watching your video of Reds Fest 2636 02:12:24,440 --> 02:12:29,520 Speaker 1: from years ago on YouTube because I wanted to just 2637 02:12:29,600 --> 02:12:32,440 Speaker 1: see what it was about. Knowing that and know an 2638 02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:36,520 Speaker 1: awesome season and knowing your visits to Reds Fest, what's 2639 02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:38,240 Speaker 1: your favorite part about being able to head down. 2640 02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:40,840 Speaker 5: There watching kids get their autographs? 2641 02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:42,760 Speaker 1: Okay, that's the best part. 2642 02:12:44,760 --> 02:12:47,400 Speaker 5: I mean, that's you know. I was talking with somebody 2643 02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:49,800 Speaker 5: on Twitter about this who said, like, if an adult 2644 02:12:49,840 --> 02:12:52,360 Speaker 5: goes to Redsfest by themselves, they need therapy. And you 2645 02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:53,720 Speaker 5: know my take on that it is going to be. 2646 02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:55,680 Speaker 5: If you've got to Redsfest without a kid, fine, I 2647 02:12:55,720 --> 02:12:58,640 Speaker 5: don't care. We have a good time. You people should 2648 02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:02,240 Speaker 5: do themselves go watch professional wrestling. And I don't get it, 2649 02:13:02,320 --> 02:13:04,840 Speaker 5: but if that's their thing, that's their thing. But at 2650 02:13:04,840 --> 02:13:06,640 Speaker 5: the end of the day, I do think it's an 2651 02:13:06,680 --> 02:13:10,520 Speaker 5: event that's best for kids and I enjoy I think 2652 02:13:10,560 --> 02:13:12,240 Speaker 5: the Reds do a really good job with this, and 2653 02:13:12,320 --> 02:13:15,480 Speaker 5: I think the players, year after year after year are 2654 02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:19,560 Speaker 5: giving of themselves two children. There is nothing worse than 2655 02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:22,240 Speaker 5: some adult who's got it like a Little League equipment 2656 02:13:22,280 --> 02:13:25,080 Speaker 5: bags full of stuff. Yeah, and you know, just getting 2657 02:13:25,120 --> 02:13:27,160 Speaker 5: in it like a kid's waiting behind him, like man, 2658 02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:29,760 Speaker 5: I just want Matt McLean's autograph, and like this guy 2659 02:13:29,880 --> 02:13:32,760 Speaker 5: is getting all sorts of gear sign like come on, dude. 2660 02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:35,520 Speaker 5: But at the end, that's what I like most about it. 2661 02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:39,320 Speaker 5: I like watching I like watching the kids get get autographs, 2662 02:13:39,360 --> 02:13:42,160 Speaker 5: and it just I like it placed where it is 2663 02:13:42,240 --> 02:13:44,120 Speaker 5: in the calendar because we're gonna go from reds Fest 2664 02:13:44,240 --> 02:13:46,040 Speaker 5: right to spring training, right to the season, right to 2665 02:13:46,120 --> 02:13:46,560 Speaker 5: the lockout. 2666 02:13:46,720 --> 02:13:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. I think it would be funny if like 2667 02:13:49,960 --> 02:13:53,800 Speaker 1: JJ Bledah just wore like a normal outfit and just 2668 02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:56,320 Speaker 1: kind of like hung out, had a beer, walked around 2669 02:13:56,400 --> 02:13:59,000 Speaker 1: reds Fest. Like how many people there would be able 2670 02:13:59,040 --> 02:14:02,360 Speaker 1: to pick JJ Blude out if he was just wondering. 2671 02:14:02,040 --> 02:14:05,720 Speaker 5: Around, or or Caleb Ferguson or probably a lot of 2672 02:14:05,720 --> 02:14:12,520 Speaker 5: people on this roster, Rockburke b Yeah, Rockbrook. Do you think, 2673 02:14:12,680 --> 02:14:16,000 Speaker 5: like did Gavin Lux come to town for Reds Fest? 2674 02:14:16,600 --> 02:14:18,880 Speaker 5: That's a great quest here, Yeah, I would love ready 2675 02:14:18,920 --> 02:14:23,000 Speaker 5: to answer that, Like there have been reds Fest trades 2676 02:14:23,080 --> 02:14:25,880 Speaker 5: before famously, we had Drew Stubbs. You know, the Reds 2677 02:14:26,120 --> 02:14:28,200 Speaker 5: bring players around to talk about Reds Fest every year. 2678 02:14:28,200 --> 02:14:30,320 Speaker 5: One year it was Drew Stubbs and then I think 2679 02:14:30,360 --> 02:14:33,800 Speaker 5: he got traded like the Monday after Reds Fest. So 2680 02:14:34,360 --> 02:14:36,560 Speaker 5: was like Gavin Lux ready to go. All right, I'm 2681 02:14:36,600 --> 02:14:38,320 Speaker 5: here for Reds Fest. I'll do what I gotta do. 2682 02:14:38,360 --> 02:14:40,440 Speaker 5: And then he got traded. Like is that how it worked? 2683 02:14:40,520 --> 02:14:41,840 Speaker 1: I think So that's what I'm trying. 2684 02:14:41,920 --> 02:14:42,839 Speaker 2: I think that's possible. 2685 02:14:43,160 --> 02:14:45,240 Speaker 1: Uh Mo, have a great show, have a great weekend. Man, 2686 02:14:46,240 --> 02:14:48,839 Speaker 1: you guys do the same. Thank you. That is Moleger. 2687 02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:51,640 Speaker 1: His show is next, The Moweger Show. It all happens 2688 02:14:51,680 --> 02:14:54,040 Speaker 1: here on the ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 2689 02:14:54,240 --> 02:14:57,320 Speaker 2: Where can you commit to trying a new food? 2690 02:14:57,400 --> 02:14:57,640 Speaker 4: You have. 2691 02:14:59,200 --> 02:15:04,040 Speaker 2: Today, Saturday, Sunday and Monday between now and Tuesday, will 2692 02:15:04,080 --> 02:15:06,600 Speaker 2: you try something new and document it for us? 2693 02:15:06,680 --> 02:15:09,400 Speaker 1: I will document myself trying a new food between now 2694 02:15:09,480 --> 02:15:12,360 Speaker 1: and Tuesday. I will also document our guy Meso at 2695 02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:13,160 Speaker 1: the UC game. 2696 02:15:13,040 --> 02:15:15,200 Speaker 2: Tome Okay at Tony Underscore Pike fifteen. 2697 02:15:15,320 --> 02:15:18,240 Speaker 1: This all comes up. We're done, can't wait, have a 2698 02:15:18,280 --> 02:15:20,120 Speaker 1: great weekend. Thanks so much for listening to a man 2699 02:15:20,200 --> 02:15:23,040 Speaker 1: of your word or not. Mowegger's Next on ESPN fifteen 2700 02:15:23,120 --> 02:15:24,400 Speaker 1: thirty Cincinnati sports station