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Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike since E gree sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: this is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Our number three since E three sixty TESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks for listening. Long phone lines are

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Speaker 2: open five to one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty Austin.

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Speaker 2: It became more of a talking point over the last

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Speaker 2: forty eight hours when the details have been viewed of

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Speaker 2: the contracts that the Bengals have handed out in free agency,

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Speaker 2: and we've talked about this as we've won along the

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Speaker 2: pieces themselves makes sense. According to Pro Football Focus, the

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Speaker 2: addition of Brian Cook and Boye Mafi Baffe both grade

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Speaker 2: out as a B for the Cincinnati Bengals, while Jonathan

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Speaker 2: Allen is a below average grade for the Bengals. But

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Speaker 2: they all from a great standpoint fall the moves themselves

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Speaker 2: in that B minus range. Collectively, I think they are

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Speaker 2: three pieces that can genuinely help this team. The pushback

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Speaker 2: has now changed because of the twenty twenty six cap hits,

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Speaker 2: and we talked about this yesterday. The twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: cap hits in which Boye Mafe, Brian Cook and Jonathan

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Speaker 2: Allen are going to be getting and it is significantly

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Speaker 2: higher than anyone else in the National Football League. And

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Speaker 2: Joe Goodberry broke this down based on what the Bengals

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Speaker 2: are doing around the league. The average year one cap

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Speaker 2: hit Austin for free agent contracts was fifty percent of

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Speaker 2: their average per year value. The Bengals cap hits went

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Speaker 2: to eighty point nine percent. So again that's thirty percent

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Speaker 2: higher of a cap hit than the rest of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: And I know Paul Daner Junior was on with Moeger yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I'm just.

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Speaker 2: I'm not understanding the rationale behind why the Bengals have

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Speaker 4: The reason they do it is so that they have

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Speaker 4: more control in future years, more cap space. And also

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Speaker 4: it appears on paper that they spent all the way

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Speaker 4: up to the cap.

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Speaker 2: Now, good Barry goes on, there are other teams Austin

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Speaker 2: to these three teams and tell them what they have

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Speaker 2: in common. The Raiders, the Titans, and the Cardinals gave

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Speaker 2: out a ton of money in year one.

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Speaker 4: They don't have huge quarterback contract, correct, the Cardinals do.

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Speaker 4: They're still giving a bunch of money to the Kyler,

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Speaker 4: but they don't have a bunch of other guys.

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Speaker 2: Tons of cap space, and not a quarterback really to

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Speaker 2: pay the Bengals due. And the Bengals also have a

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Speaker 2: quarterback who has been open and willing to say, I'll

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Speaker 2: restructure so that we can help the cap. And to

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson deal in detail with the Baltimore Ravens, it

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Speaker 2: makes it look even more concerning for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson, I get it four years, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twelve million per over the cap. But if you look

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Speaker 2: at Hal Hendrickson's cappit breaks down twenty twenty six, he

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Speaker 2: gets fifteen million, twenty twenty seven, eighteen million, and then

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Speaker 2: he's right around thirty four to thirty five million in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight, twenty twenty nine. But the Ravens can

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Speaker 2: is going to get two million dollars more from a

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Speaker 2: cap hit than Trey Hendrickson in year one, almost four

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Speaker 2: million dollars more in year two, and I get it,

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson wanted guaranteed money in year two. The Bengals

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Speaker 2: don't really do that. But if you look at those

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Speaker 2: every signing that the Bengals had, and then you go

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Speaker 2: back to the Hendrickson deal, who was in Cincinnati, all

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Speaker 2: of that adds up to just a very puzzling decision

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Speaker 2: from this organization and what has been called by Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow a paramount off season. I just worry Austin that

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Speaker 2: they're not putting enough emphasis and urgency on winning and

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Speaker 4: I don't worry about that. I just worry about the

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Speaker 4: fact that they're too incompetent to understand what that actually

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Speaker 2: Are they incompetent or is this just their way of

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Speaker 3: That's the point. That's the incompetence.

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Speaker 4: Like the incompetence is that they think this is the

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Speaker 4: I shouldn't say that, because like it can work, and

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Speaker 4: it a lot harder. And what's inexcusable is is even

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Speaker 4: if they did have these year one cap hits with

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Speaker 3: So and yet they didn't.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you on that note, is it

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Speaker 2: more concerning that they weren't even in on those linebackers.

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Speaker 4: More concerning that they weren't in on those linebackers because

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Speaker 4: for some reason they think that those guys are going

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Speaker 4: make them better linebackers.

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Speaker 3: And I think that you know.

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Speaker 4: The point that Joe made was Boye Mafe and Brian

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Speaker 4: Cook are going to have an impact and that's going to.

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Speaker 3: Help them, and I agree with that.

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Speaker 4: Is that enough, though, because you still have question marks

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Speaker 4: Demetrius Knight, and so now Shamar Stewart has a bigger

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Speaker 4: to me feels like a bit of a mistake, but

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Speaker 4: I don't hate at least seeing what it looks like.

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Speaker 4: And maybe there's I don't know, there's a few different

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Speaker 4: just in general, there should be improvement, but the bar

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Speaker 4: is incredibly low. Even minimal improvement is still horrible. Linebacker play,

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Speaker 4: that room needed to be improved, all that stuff that

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Speaker 2: And in free agency there's not a ton of names

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Speaker 2: Is there any scenario and I get that it's never

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Speaker 2: a scenario the Bengals do. We talk about this every year,

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Speaker 2: talk about them trading down or reaching at a pick.

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Speaker 2: We know that it's just historically not what they do

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Speaker 2: are so needy as of right now at linebacker. Is

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: The reason for that is they've already told you what

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Speaker 2: Now, there's other linebackers you could find later, probably Jacob Rodriguez,

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Speaker 2: would have a hard time buying in on the defensive

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Speaker 2: side of the ball Austin. If we start Bengals training

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Speaker 4: Well, they'll add somebody. It's not gonna be somebody who's

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Speaker 2: Right without a without a significant contributor being added to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean right now, linebackers are Carter Knight, Shaka Hayward,

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Speaker 4: Orn Burke's, Joe Giles Harris who was awesome on special

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Speaker 3: They get you excited. No, no media, no, what about

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Speaker 3: what about this in Buffalo? Though?

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Speaker 2: You think this is getting Buffalo excited because Geno Stone,

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Speaker 2: who's the newest member of the Buffalo Bills, was asked

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Speaker 2: and he said, this, getting back into a winning culture

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Speaker 2: it's the reasons I came here, having Josh Allen on

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Speaker 2: the other side of the ball, knowing I got a

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Speaker 2: great quarterback, I get to play with. Buying this from Genostone,

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Speaker 2: getting back into a winning culture. That's what was missing

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Speaker 2: here for Genostone, that he was a huge part of

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Speaker 2: the losing culture. You ain't kidding, a large part of

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Speaker 4: I think Buffalo fans are excited because DeMar Hamlin was

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Speaker 4: horrible last year and they think that anybody is.

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Speaker 3: Bad news for you. Yeah, unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: I think I always go back to the idea of, well,

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Speaker 4: it can't possibly get worse. Yes it can. We saw

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Speaker 4: it get worse a year ago. Yep, we know that

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Speaker 4: it can get worse. You cannot just bank on the

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Speaker 4: You just can't bank on that. There's no depth at

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Speaker 4: those editions are good, but they are not good enough.

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Speaker 4: And because of the structure of the contract, you've hamstrung

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Speaker 4: your ability to add legitimate depth pieces to strengthen the

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's it.

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Speaker 4: better about, and you're probably gonna draft one. Linebacker needs

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Speaker 4: a ton of work. Cornerback needs a ton of work.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: behind Jordan Battle and Brian Cook. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 4: you still need to figure out your offensive line. Who's

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Speaker 4: your swing tackle going to be? You probably need to

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Speaker 4: address tight end and you got a bunch of dudes

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's the issue.

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Speaker 4: I mean, even like you know, for example, the Eagles

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Speaker 4: today signed Hollywood Brown. I would have signed Hollywood Brown

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Speaker 2: I did think about the Eagles today when the Jalen

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Speaker 2: Wattle news came down. Jalen Waddle to the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 2: They swapped fourth round picks and the Dolphins also get

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Speaker 2: a first and third. What do you think the market

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Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit more off the field

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Speaker 2: But more reliable on field from an injury standpoint probably.

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Speaker 4: Wattle deal if you're the Eagles, so maybe that clarified

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Speaker 4: they were trying to trade AJ Brown to the Dolphins, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown. And I don't know what exactly that means

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Speaker 4: was a little bit wrong. Jalen Wattle has played more

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Speaker 4: Played sixteen games last year, played fifteen games the year

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Speaker 2: Phone lines are open five to one, three seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 3: I think it's getting a lot warmer.

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Speaker 4: I do think that there is a conversation out there

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Speaker 3: I look at it.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, some people are screaming outside of that window right

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Speaker 2: I look at it, like, what was it? The loss

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's frustrated because he's may not really

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Speaker 2: Things happen, you go through ups and downs. But starting

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. Chad Brendle is in for Moegar this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: so we'll get the latest scoop on the UC Bearcats

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Speaker 2: we have a few moments here. Brian and Brian are

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Brian? How are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing very well. How you guys going to Happy

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Speaker 6: Saint Patrick's.

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Speaker 3: Day, Happy Saint Patty's Day. Thank you, thank you?

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Speaker 6: I got I guess I got a couple of things.

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Speaker 6: First off, that was actually the sonic boom that that was.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't actually hitting the ground up in Cleveland.

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Speaker 6: a lot of fans, including me, are gonna leave the

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Speaker 6: If we we wasted the opportunity to have a Hall

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Speaker 3: And yeah, and didn't get it right, and we just.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian, thank you for the phone call. I your

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Speaker 2: One more here, Brian, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: What's up? Brian?

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Speaker 7: Hey, how are you doing good? Hey, thanks for taking

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Speaker 7: a call. I was just calling. I heard the montcasts

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Speaker 7: to be gone. Obviously, Option A you know, if that

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Speaker 7: that's there an areo you you know, if the Bengals

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Speaker 7: had a GM that was a little bit creative, maybe

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Speaker 7: you trade that first pick or Max Yeah or Auction

441
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Speaker 7: B would probably be to trade up to try to

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Speaker 7: get styles or downs. I think those would be the

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Speaker 7: two most impactful rookies for them in the first year,

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Speaker 7: especially linebackers, especially now since it's such a glaring need.

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Speaker 7: Maybe even get rbl Reese and try to trade it

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Speaker 7: for him if he falls, and then option to see

447
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Speaker 7: would probably to trade down, you know, Kata McDonald, tale Banks,

448
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Speaker 7: I don't I'm not big Peter Woods fan, and and

449
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Speaker 7: try to trade down again extra twenty seven draft pick

450
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Speaker 7: because it's gonna be loaded, uh for that class. But

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Speaker 7: as a Bengals fan and as where they're at right

452
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Speaker 7: now as a GM, if I was a geam in

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Speaker 7: the Bengals, it's when now. So the first picker is

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Speaker 7: Max Crosby, where I try to trade up and get

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Speaker 7: a style of a re Bengley. A Vane is somebody

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Speaker 7: that's gonna be impactful this next year for to help

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Speaker 7: us in this little window. You don't get a big window.

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Speaker 7: I do like Mafey, I do like Alan Allen I

459
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Speaker 7: actually wanted when he was a regent before uh and

460
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Speaker 7: Cook will add to the secondary. But still you can't

461
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Speaker 7: if down is there, you got to take another safety.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that can't be Brian, thank you for

463
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Speaker 2: the phone call. That that can't be the extent of

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Speaker 2: what you do, and that I think that's the point

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Speaker 2: that we've been trying to make is those those three

466
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Speaker 2: pieces individually are good pieces, but that can't be where

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Speaker 2: you draw the line. And it's okay. As an organization,

468
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Speaker 2: you've done enough. If those two scenarios are and I

469
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Speaker 2: know they're both long shot scenarios, Austin trade up or

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Speaker 2: trade number ten to get a proven player, which would

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Speaker 2: more likely in a scenario where neither would happen. What

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Speaker 2: would be more likely to happen? Move number ten to

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Speaker 2: get a proven Max Crosby player, or trade up to

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Speaker 2: number seven or eight.

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Speaker 4: First of all, Max Crosby's not gonna happen, but it

476
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Speaker 4: would be more likely to get a proven player just

477
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Speaker 4: because it has happened before. I think of Cordy Glenn.

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Speaker 4: It didn't go well, say so, not the example you want,

479
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Speaker 4: but I think they had the twelfth pick in that draft, yeah,

480
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Speaker 4: and they traded it away for Cordy Glenn and they

481
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Speaker 4: moved back like nine spots or something. So I think

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Speaker 4: that just because on the basis of we've actually kind

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Speaker 4: of seen that before, I would say that would be

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Speaker 4: the most likely thing. keV and Brian's correct, like, that's

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Speaker 4: the mindset that you should have if you were the

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Speaker 4: GM of the Bengals. The issue is that's not the

487
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Speaker 4: mindset they have, and so we try to figure things

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Speaker 4: out through the lens of historically what they have taught

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Speaker 4: us they will do, and what they like to do,

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Speaker 4: and what their actions suggest how they feel about certain

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Speaker 4: players their position groups. If it were up to me,

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Speaker 4: I would trade for Max Crosby today. Absolutely. I want

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Speaker 4: that they should be doing that, but they don't, and

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Speaker 4: it's an issue.

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Speaker 3: Yeh.

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Speaker 2: Chad Brendle stands by to join us next for Quick Hit.

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Speaker 2: He's in for Moweger today on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports Station for.

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Speaker 5: A quick hits on Tony Pikes since the three.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen We're back ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Was looking for Mo Moe's out today he's off.

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Speaker 2: The Moweiger Show rolls on though with Chad Brendle on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Chad joining us right now,

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Speaker 2: how are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Ched? Busy? Busy, busy. Can't imagine why it's.

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Speaker 8: It's it's not a it's not been a typical first

507
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Speaker 8: four days of a coaching search.

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Speaker 2: When when this happens in our line of work, in

509
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Speaker 2: your line of work, it's the craziness is unimaginable. Yeah,

510
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Speaker 2: but how has this been different than than maybe coaching

511
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Speaker 2: searches in the past.

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Speaker 8: Uh, everybody assumes it's Jared Calhoun from just telling you off,

513
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Speaker 8: from the top of the food chain all the way

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Speaker 8: to the lowest level person I've talk to. Everybody says

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Speaker 8: all signs point to Jared. Now, I've seen folks say

516
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Speaker 8: you got to make Dan Hurley say no, I did. Yeah,

517
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Speaker 8: I called, I texted. Uh he said, what kind of

518
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Speaker 8: package can the Bengals put together? Okay, that's a start,

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Speaker 8: So I said the end of the day, Chad like

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Speaker 8: the Bengals owed.

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Speaker 4: You see from all those years of using the bubble. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: maybe you know, still make a phone call, maybe throw

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Speaker 4: a little you know, sweet to him, give.

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Speaker 8: Him one percent, give him a sweet like I think

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Speaker 8: you might be able to swing it. Although I don't

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Speaker 8: think his wife would. Uh, he'd like probably have to

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Speaker 8: move here by myself. She's a she's a Jersey girl.

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Speaker 3: Poor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So imagine like he says no to the Lakers

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Speaker 2: and then comes here because of the Bengals.

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Speaker 8: But I, you know, you gotta make him say no.

532
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Speaker 8: I I offered to put him on the hot board. Yeah,

533
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 8: as prestigious, the Bear Journal hot board. That's a big deal.

534
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Speaker 8: But he politely didn't make it. He politely declined.

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Speaker 2: It does feel like and it's different, like you mentioned,

536
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Speaker 2: from a lot of other searches where it's almost unanimous.

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Speaker 2: Everyone I talked to says, you got to get Jared Calhum.

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Speaker 2: Why does he make as much sense for folks that

539
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Speaker 2: may not know as much about him.

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Speaker 8: Well, one, he's one of the two best names on

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Speaker 8: this cycle in terms of guys ready to move up.

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Speaker 3: It's him and Josh Shirts.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, those are the two guys that everybody looks at

544
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Speaker 8: and says they've gone They've They've done it at D two,

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Speaker 8: They've done it at a low major. Now they've done

546
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Speaker 8: it at a mid major. The next step for both

547
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Speaker 8: of them is the high major level. Cincinnati's one of

548
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Speaker 8: the However, you want to argue at one to three

549
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Speaker 8: best jobs on the market, You've got one of the

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Speaker 8: two best coaches on the market that has a tie

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Speaker 8: to the university, has a connection to the past, and.

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Speaker 3: He's really good.

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Speaker 8: So everything just kind of and like the Kansas State stuff,

554
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Speaker 8: a lot of people thought that was pretty far down

555
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Speaker 8: the road and then all of a sudden it's off. Yeah,

556
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Speaker 8: and then Cincinnati opens.

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Speaker 3: That feels a little.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think you can't overlook enough, and this

559
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: isn't a West Light. You can't overlook enough someone that

560
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: has ties here and understands the brand of basketball that

561
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: people associate with Cincinnati, well that I mean, it.

562
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Speaker 3: Wasn't just here.

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Speaker 8: He also spent five additional seasons with Hugs at West

564
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Speaker 8: Virginia like he was raised and then like the gap

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Speaker 8: between his time at U See and then when he

566
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Speaker 8: got to West Virginia, he was at Walsh where hugs started,

567
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Speaker 8: so like, there's a lot of ties there. There's a

568
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 8: lot of connective tissue, if you will, and that I

569
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Speaker 8: know he's still has friends, you know, has friendships, has

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Speaker 8: relationships with people in town.

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Speaker 2: It just it makes too much sense. While that has

572
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Speaker 2: been taking a coaching search, sure, and while that has

573
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Speaker 2: been a large I do think you want to talk

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Speaker 2: about madness. If it's not Calhoun, then madness would ensue

575
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Speaker 2: because now all of a sudden, it feels like you're

576
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Speaker 2: probably grasping, Yeah, then what While a lot of attention

577
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Speaker 2: is drawn to that, I made a point to bring

578
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Speaker 2: this up today and you can speak on it as well.

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Speaker 2: What you see baseball is doing to start this year

580
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Speaker 2: should not go unnoticed as well. The start that they're

581
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Speaker 2: off too went to Utah Valley, who's a good veteran team,

582
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Speaker 2: beat them with a run rule.

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Speaker 3: They're playing again today, playing again.

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Speaker 8: I just saw something wild right before we went on

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Speaker 8: the air, Clinton Coates, who is right now one of

586
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Speaker 8: the top three power hitters in college baseball. Utah Valley

587
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Speaker 8: put four outfielders wow out there with him at the plate.

588
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Speaker 8: Have you ever seen that in a like in a

589
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Speaker 8: real game. No, that's little league, Like, you know, there's

590
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 8: no fence, you got a lot of ground to cover.

591
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Speaker 8: Like they put four outfielders in a Division one baseball game.

592
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Speaker 8: They put four outfielders in the outfield. They're The way

593
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 8: that they play is perfect for having a guy like

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Speaker 8: Coachs in the middle of the lineup. Sure, they steal bases,

595
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 8: they bunt, they take walks, they put pressure on a defense,

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Speaker 8: and then you got a guy that's just mashing the

597
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Speaker 8: ball in the middle there. And the pitching's been good.

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Speaker 8: It hasn't been great, but that's you know, there's only

599
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Speaker 8: so much depth in a college baseball bullpen, but it's

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Speaker 8: been good enough to keep them in games and allow

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Speaker 8: them to keep churning out wins.

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Speaker 2: Middle of the fifth. They're down two to one right

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Speaker 2: now against Utah Valley. They took game one of the series.

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Speaker 2: Outside of obviously a lot of coaching search conversation, what

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Speaker 2: else you got coming up on the show?

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Speaker 3: Uh, the Bengals conversation? It just.

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Speaker 8: Why do we keep doing this to ourselves? They have

608
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Speaker 8: told us who they are, they have told us they're

609
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Speaker 8: not changing, and we keep going into every offseason trying

610
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Speaker 8: to believe that somehow it's gonna be different. And I

611
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Speaker 8: mean you and Austin hit on it yesterday, Like, I

612
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Speaker 8: don't know this for certain, but boy, wouldn't it have

613
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Speaker 8: been much easier to go get a linebacker and pay

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Speaker 8: them what was needed to pay them if you didn't

615
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Speaker 8: front load every deal and cost yourself double what other

616
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Speaker 8: teams are costing themselves.

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Speaker 3: In the market.

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Speaker 2: But like Austin said, it's not only that, it's the

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Speaker 2: report that comes out that they weren't really interested in

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Speaker 2: the two top remains. So even if they had the money,

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Speaker 2: does that mean they they're just content with what we

622
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Speaker 2: watched in Demetrius Knight and Barrett Carter.

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Speaker 8: Stop lying to us, Stop telling us a lot veteran

624
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Speaker 8: linebacker is a priority. And then you get to the

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Speaker 8: point where veteran linebackers should be a priority and you

626
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Speaker 8: do nothing, And now you know, what.

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Speaker 3: Does it do to the draft?

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Speaker 8: You're gonna You're gonna take another young linebacker and put

629
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Speaker 8: them out there with two other young linebackers. Like what,

630
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Speaker 8: what's the plan? Because linebacker was the weakest position on

631
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Speaker 8: the team last year, the weakest position on a bad defense,

632
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Speaker 8: and you did nothing, And I don't understand it. And

633
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Speaker 8: then how that affects the draft. They also did nothing

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Speaker 8: at cornerback, So now you're you know, if you're in

635
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Speaker 8: that position, are you going to draft a corner when

636
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Speaker 8: the two most stable things on your defense are the

637
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Speaker 8: starting corners right from last year, and now you're going

638
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Speaker 8: to use your draft pick number ten, number ten potentially

639
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Speaker 8: on a corner because there's nobody else behind them in

640
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Speaker 8: that room. There's no depth in that room. And both

641
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 8: of their contracts are up. Yeah, so now you're I

642
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 8: thought we were all in. Why are we playing for

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty seven? Yeah, the decisions feel like they're for

644
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Speaker 8: twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Right when the quarterback said this offseason was paramount, leaves

646
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Speaker 2: a lot to be desired outside of that nine days

647
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Speaker 2: away from opening Day. Talked about this earlier on the

648
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Speaker 2: show as well. Hunter Green's out till July. I'm worried

649
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Speaker 2: about starting rotation. There's an uneasiness around Chase Burns and

650
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Speaker 2: Andrew Abbit in thirteen in ins in spring training, he's

651
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Speaker 2: giving up twenty four hits and twenty runs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw I heard somebody call in and talk.

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Speaker 2: We're not supposed to tak it because we can't overreact

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Speaker 2: to spring training, we can. We need to react when

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Speaker 2: you're you're not twenty nine days away, you're nine days away.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Abbat's gonna get one more start and then he's

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Speaker 2: your opening day starter. There's working on some things town. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's a question around Chase Burns clicks hope.

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Speaker 3: It's not a strategy.

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Speaker 8: Now now he's here, we use it here now Burns

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Speaker 8: is we don't know. Yeah, and your potentially let's say

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Speaker 8: he doesn't crack the starting rotation, Yeah, to open the season.

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Speaker 8: Now you're burning his innings in Louisville for a guy

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Speaker 8: that's gonna have a finite amount of restriction to throw

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Speaker 8: this year, you're gonna start him in Louisville.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 8: And I just what was in typical Cincinnati sports fashion,

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Speaker 8: what was supposed to be the strength feels like there's

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Speaker 8: a question, it's it's it's teetering on being a weakness

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Speaker 8: nine days from now and.

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Speaker 3: Then your bullpen right what? What what's going on there?

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Speaker 3: We don't have a great feel for that either. Correct.

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Speaker 3: How many brackets do you fill out a year? Sometimes?

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Speaker 8: One?

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Speaker 3: Okay? When you do?

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Speaker 2: Are you an online are you an online bracket or

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Speaker 2: do you like the old school.

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Speaker 3: I used to do. I used to do on paper

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Speaker 3: like I would draw the lines the.

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Speaker 8: Day of I spent that day getting my bracket sheets ready,

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Speaker 8: one for each region, top and bottom four sheets, filling

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Speaker 8: them out as the TV was going. I fell out

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Speaker 8: of love with doing brackets because I get in my

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Speaker 8: own head.

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Speaker 3: You stop getting right you see on them.

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Speaker 8: No, I just I know too much about like I

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Speaker 8: think too much. Yeah, I know the teams, I know

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Speaker 8: the player. I've scouted the players, like known them since

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Speaker 8: they were in high school.

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Speaker 3: I let it consume me.

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Speaker 8: So something like what I will do if I do

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Speaker 8: anything just to have it Thursday before I come in

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Speaker 8: here to do the Mowagger Show since Moe is contractually

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Speaker 8: free of work on Thursday and Friday of the tournament,

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Speaker 8: I will fill one out just to have as you go,

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Speaker 8: this is what I think.

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Speaker 2: And there's like the stress of like getting everything written

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Speaker 2: on that small line. Yeah, can you fit the whole time?

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Speaker 2: There's a lot that goes into the Kennesaw State. Yeah, boy,

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Speaker 2: that was a tough one. Ye, Michigan State's always a

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Speaker 2: tough one to men. Fanderbilt A spelling it correctly? Can

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Speaker 2: I get it on the line?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Ye.

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Speaker 2: Chad Brendle is next. I haven't done. I haven't finished

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Speaker 2: mine yet. I'll wait until you know. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: fill it out. But like Joe Danimon said, someone could

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Speaker 2: get caught with two point one pounds of marijuana and

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Speaker 2: get kicked off a team between now.

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Speaker 3: And Thursdays, just dispensary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't selling, he said, right people, just good luck.

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Speaker 3: That's a bigger question.

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Speaker 2: That's like, if you're selling, that explains it's an impressive number.

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Speaker 3: Two point one good luck if if you're just if

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Speaker 3: that's for a personal consumption.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different, different conversation. Right now, who would

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Speaker 2: you take Arizona?

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Speaker 3: I think same.

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Speaker 2: We're done. Chad Breundle's next. ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: We talked, I'm out.

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