WEBVTT - 3-9-26 Dan Carroll in for Scott Sloan 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 You want to be an American. 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:06.560 Right back on the Big One, seven hundred WLW nine nine. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:09.680 Dan Carroll in for Scott Sloan Sloaney enjoying the day 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.440 off today. Glad to be here for Sloany. So much 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.320 stuff is going on. We're all paying higher gasoline prices 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.400 right now. My buddy Daniel Turner from Power the Future 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.200 is going to be here to address that in the 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.040 ten o'clock hour, So if you want to get the 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:26.560 straight scoop on why we're seeing gasoline prices the way 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.400 we are. Obviously, the conflict in the in the Middle 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:32.479 East is right to call it a Is it a conflict? 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.760 Is it a war? Operation? Epic fury? We're gonna have 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:38.440 to figure that out. I guess we are at war? 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.319 How long is this going to last? Of course, we're 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.880 all paying higher electricity prices as well, so we'll talk 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.280 to Daniel Turner about that. But we start off this 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:52.400 morning with my buddy who is the opinion editor at 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.880 the Cincinnati Inquirer, and that is Kevin Aldrich. And Kevin 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:57.880 Aldrich great to have you back on the show this morning. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.279 How you doing, Hey, I'm doing great, Dan, Thanks for 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:01.680 having me. 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.040 Is it just me, or does it seem like we 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:08.200 have been in not only on a national level, but 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.760 on a local level, that we have been in just 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.520 a really extraordinary news cycle as of late. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.720 Yeah. I always say I've been at this for a 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.600 while now, Dan, and it's like you think you've seen everything, 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.640 and a lot of times news gets recycled, and I 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.560 just say, it never ceases to amaze me that, no 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.720 matter everything I've seen in nearly thirty years of doing this, 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.600 there's always new stuff that comes up that just leaves 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:35.559 you with your mouth open. 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:36.080 Sometimes. 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:36.440 Yeah. 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:38.920 So I get up this morning and I go to 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.759 the Cincinnati Inquirer Cincinnati dot com Inquirer or website, and 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.360 I see a piece written by your colleagues Cameron Knight, 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:51.600 Gillian Strawinsky, and Matthew Copelli, and it's the headline is 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:56.480 safety lapses, unkept promises on Cincinnati block where nine kids 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:01.279 were shot. And this is John Street as Charles Lynn Street, 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.040 the Laura Playground right there in the West End. And 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:08.520 it's a lengthy piece and really gets into what a 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.560 lot of people in that area are feeling. And they're 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:15.320 looking at city Hall and they're saying, look, we've been 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:19.720 promised things, and it really points out just how unresponsive 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:24.040 in the general sense. I guess there's been a couple 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.400 of things that have been done, but in a general sense, 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.040 it really seems like the city Hall has been unresponsive 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.919 to the serious needs and the serious things that are 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.160 going on in that part of town. 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:38.920 Yeah, well, I think, and I think it's not just 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.200 probably that neighborhood. I think there are a lot of 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.560 neighborhoods in the City of Cincinnati that sort of feel 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:49.280 like city Council is not necessarily as responsive as they 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.720 would like for them to be, or as intentional towards 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.240 some neighborhoods as they would like to be, and feel 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.480 like there are certain neighborhoods in the city, whether you're 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:01.880 talking about downtown or other particular neighborhoods that dominate city 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.640 Council's attention at the expense of other neighborhoods that has 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.880 suffered disinvestment, crime problems, and things of that nature. And 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:12.279 I think that, you know, that's one of the challenges 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:16.520 that this council and past councils have kind of continued 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.920 to struggle with, is listening to folks. I mean, you know, 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.040 the folks out in Hyde Park, even one of the 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:26.239 more affluent communities, sort of found out last year how 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.720 difficult it is sometimes to get your voice heard down 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.600 down at city Hall, particularly when they had their designs 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:32.400 on other things. 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.280 And so I look at this piece, and then I 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:39.040 look at what the Vice Mayor is proposing, and this 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:44.760 issue of reparations for housing discrimination. And obviously I think 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:49.480 there were some serious discrimination issues that plagued Cincinnati in 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:53.960 the past. But when and she talks about fifteen different neighborhoods, 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:58.640 fifteen rising neighborhoods that would be eligible for this financial assistance, 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:01.040 and I look at and then I look at the 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.360 piece this morning, and I'm saying, how do these two 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.960 things square with each other? Because it seems to me, 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.680 Kevin Aldridge, it's a lot more than just about putting 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:13.520 some money into a particular neighborhood that is really going 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:17.800 to make any meaningful change for the people who live there. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.520 Yeah, you know, Dan, I kind of slightly disagree with 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.320 that because I think, you know, one of the things 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.599 that has been proven time and again when it comes 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.280 to crime related issues is sort of like the broken 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.720 glass theory. You know that we're all familiar with that 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.920 when the neighborhoods that have a lot of disinvestment, where 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.960 you don't have a lot of quality housing, you have 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:44.200 a lot of you know, no thriving business center and 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:46.680 things of that nature, where you have just sort of 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.320 like a lot of low income that that breeds a 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:53.720 lot of crime and situations like that there. So I 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:59.080 think that what someone city council and rightfully have identified 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.560 is that neighborhood that have not seen investment, whether that's 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.839 in infrastructure or where you have high high levels of 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:09.080 home ownership, you know, in communities, that is where you 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.719 see a lot of a lot of crime issues at 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.119 in the city. So I don't think the two things 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.440 are unrelated. That I think that there probably needs to 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.960 be a little bit more investment in neighborhoods and bringing 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:25.480 those neighborhoods up to a standard where people have opportunities, 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.440 or they have things that they can be proud of, 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.680 or they have ownership in that community in terms of 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.440 home so that properties are taken care of and the 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.799 area is beautified and it's not allowed to run down, 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.159 to be run down where it becomes a breeding ground 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.600 for crime. I don't think those two things are unrelated. 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.240 And I think there's some on city Council who see 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:49.040 that these fifteen rising communities have been communities that have 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.960 been neglected over the years, and they're looking for ways 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:58.160 to maybe infuse some resources in those communities to kind 0:05:58.200 --> 0:05:59.960 of bring them back up and get them to a 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:04.760 place where you know, crime is is, it's less of 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.640 an inviting environment for crime and those sorts of things. 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.880 So I don't think they're totally completely unrelated. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.479 Yeah, it just seems to me that it sort of 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.480 boils down to the issue of where you have members 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:19.040 of council or whoever would be in charge of deciding 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.760 where this money goes. That you have a city, either 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.520 city council or some government controlled entity that is going 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.320 to be picking winners and losers. And I think there's 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.560 a long history on a national and a local level 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.320 that kind of points to that not really being the 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:35.239 greatest of ideas. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.200 Yeah, well, I think you already have a situation where 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.240 winners and losers are being pig Dan and I think that, 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.480 you know, we again, it goes back to the opening 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.280 point that we were talking about about, you know, folks 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.479 in the in the West End sort of feeling like 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.000 their voices aren't being heard at council. Look, let's just 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.599 be honest that there are certain neighborhoods and certain constituencies 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.640 in the City of Cincinnati whose voices are loud than 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.599 others down at City Hall, and so winners and losers 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.840 are already already being picked. It just so happens that 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.800 most of these fifteen rising communities that they're trying to 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.240 target are typically the communities whose voices never get heard. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.360 So I think you already have a scenario down at 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.680 eight oh one Plumb Street where winners and losers are 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.840 being picked all the time, and you just have the 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.400 same folks who are winning all the time there at 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:25.800 City Hall. And I think that's what a lot of 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:27.480 folks are frustrated and set up with. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:33.880 There was a piece that was posted yesterday by I 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.320 think probably one of the sharpest minds in and around 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.920 Cincinnati that I've ever met, n'ts. Carl Kaden, lifelong Cincinnati 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.520 and served in the Criminal Division in the United States 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:48.320 Attorney's Office and worked here in city government locally city 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.200 and county government. And he wrote a piece in the 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:56.080 Inquiry about the city needs an agency to identify corruption 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.920 at City Hall and He's talking about an independent agency 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.440 that would have subpoena power, that could really dig deep 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.520 and do investigations. And I look at that, and I 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.360 look at what is and you and I. I don't 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:12.320 think you and I have talked since the extension. The 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:16.560 second extension came out into the investigation into the police 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:20.000 chief Teresa Thigi, and so I look at that, and 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.200 I wonder to myself, how long is this going to 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:24.880 I think a lot of people are asking that, how 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.720 long is the investigation and the Thigi going to drag on? 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.440 Is this really a good look for Cincinnati to have 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.640 our chief twisting in the wind for this amount of time? 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:39.480 And it looks like this idea that Carl Kayden has 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:41.240 might be a solution for. 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:41.880 Something like that. 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.319 Yeah, I think, you know mister Caden's piece, which you know, 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.319 which was an interesting piece, but not you know, completely 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.160 unheard of. I mean that, you know, he's probably he's 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.480 probably about the third or fourth person who I can 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.040 think about who has suggested sort of like this office 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:01.240 of an Inspector General at City Hall that would do 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.480 these types of have this type of independent agency that 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:08.559 would do these types of investigations of corruption down a 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.959 City Hall. I think, you know, Todd Zenzer might have 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:15.080 proposed something similar. Charlie Winburn I think maybe if maybe 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.120 around the time of the Gang of Five made a 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.920 similar suggestion. So I think there's a strong sense among 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.360 some in Cincinnati that you need an independent sort of 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.360 third party that's able to kind of take a you know, 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.480 kind of take a look at at what's going on 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:35.600 down there and doing some investigations of corruption or suspected corruption. 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.720 And I don't know that that's necessarily a bad idea. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.920 I mean, and I think, you know, to to create 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.480 an air of trust and transparency with the public, I 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:48.319 think you need to have some mechanism that lets folks 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.200 know and believe that that there are folks who are 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.600 taking look taking a look at how things are handled 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.560 and making sure that tax dollars aren't being abused, and 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:02.800 that that there's uh not excessive or or really any waste, prouder, 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.800 frauder abuse that's happening down there. So I think I 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:07.559 think it would be uh, I think it would be 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.200 a good idea, and I think a lot of people 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.800 have have been calling for that. As far as the 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.480 police chief is concerned. Yeah, I think it's it's been. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.200 It's been. I think it's been way too long for 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.040 them to have made some type of determination on what 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.640 her status is. And and I'm really struggling to understand, 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.839 you know, what is the need for all of these extensions. 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:29.600 I mean, what is she She's been out now, what 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:34.280 since October November? So it's yeah, it's been. It's been 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.440 quite a while now, and I think to you know, 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.800 to continue to push this thing out. Uh again, it's 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.000 it's just not a good look for the city because 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.880 it just makes you wonder, Uh, you know, if if 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.560 she had been doing such a such a terrible job, 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.040 it seems like this would be, you know a bit 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.000 of an open and shut case, right. But uh, but 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.400 given the safe history and the fact that, you know, 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.280 some recent hirings that they've had have resulted in some 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.760 lawsuits that that have turned out favorably for the city, 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.680 maybe they're just trying to make sure they've got every 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.480 eye dotted and t cross. I don't know, but it 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.160 but it certainly is not a certainly is not a 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.080 great look for the City of Cincinnati to hear we 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.440 are in March, you know, four or five months after 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.920 the fact that we still don't have a resolution on 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.000 our police chief status and and she still continues to 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:26.040 get paid on the tax dollar dime. Yeah, raises a 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:26.720 lot of questions. 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.720 Yeah, it's just a shame that a woman who has 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.120 given the the length of service and I think the 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.080 exemplary service that she has given to the city of 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:40.920 Cincinnati for her to have this sort of be that. 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:42.960 I don't know if this is going to be and 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.160 I know she doesn't want to be have this be 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.640 the last thing that she's remembered for, but it's just 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:52.240 an absolute shame that that I think that it has 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:56.520 come to this. Our old friend Alex Trantefilu posted this 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.600 on his social media over the weekend, and he writes, 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.920 finally some good news and relief for a city suffering 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:06.400 from the scourge of crime. Federal charges have been brought 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.320 against the two shooters at the Cincinnati night club over 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.160 the weekend. For those unfamiliar with the justice system, the 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.880 federal gun charge will bring a significantly longer prison sentence 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:20.400 and real consequences. These two repeat violent offenders will assuredly 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.200 be given sentences much longer than our local judges would 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.560 have handed down. And he says thank you President Trump 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.880 to in federal law enforcement for stepping in to help 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.600 our failing justice system. So I look at this what 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.720 Alex is saying, and then we had another stabbing in 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.840 the in the West End, I guess over the weekend, 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:44.920 and the idea that we need to have a federal 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:52.800 backstop for local prosecutors, local judges are our local justice 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:58.480 system that continually has a revolving door that lets criminals 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.199 in and out of the system, sometimes in the matter 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:05.120 of hours. And even though you you get involved in 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.280 a shooting at a nightclub where nine people wind up 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.800 getting shot, you're talking about you walk on five thousand 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.680 dollars worth of bond uh to have the idea that 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.959 we need a federal backstop for this to bring serious 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:23.439 charges and bring down some serious punishment for individuals like this, Again, 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.479 I don't think that's a good look for for Cincinnati 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:28.120 or for Hamilton County. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:31.440 Yeah, I would agree with that. I mean, you don't 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.800 want to you don't want to have the sense that 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.720 you have to count on the federal government to be 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.160 as a as a backstop here. Look, I'll just say this, 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.680 with the with the Riverfront Live shooting, I mean, there's 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:48.120 no question that that the that the low bond that 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.680 the judge gave in that situation probably triggered, uh, the 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.760 Feds getting involved. I think if there had been a 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:00.240 larger bond set in that situation, I don't think. I mean, 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.080 I can't say this one hundred percent sure, but my 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.360 suspicion is that the federal government probably wouldn't have been 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.080 involved if if a higher bond had gotten set in 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.320 that case. So I don't know. I mean, I'm not 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.320 sure what the sentencing guidelines are at the federal level, 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:17.800 So I don't necessarily know that it's fair to say 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:21.600 that they would have gotten you know, large longer sentences 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.920 at the federal level than they would have the or 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.200 the ultimately that they will you know when they go 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:32.320 through you know, the the the more local system here, Uh, 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:36.080 that remain that remains to be seen if that would 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.120 if that would happen. So I don't necessarily know if 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.160 that's a if that's a completely fair assessment. But what 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.280 I would say is, I do think the low bond 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.680 in that situation, which I would say, was a mistake 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.600 by that judge. And I think he's a fairly new judge, 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.320 so you know, one might might chalk that up to 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:58.280 perhaps a bit of a real mistake there. But yeah, 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.160 I mean, we'll I guess we'll have to see in 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.520 that situation and you know, the whole subject around bond, 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:05.800 you know, I think that's a lot that's a very 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:09.280 nuanced conversation that I think we don't often have, you know, 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.160 whether that's you know, stories that are reported in the news, 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:15.760 or when we have these conversations, you know, in formats 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.800 like this. I think it's I think in many ways 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.760 it's it's a little bit more complex than a lot 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.880 of times that we make it. I mean, look, the 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.680 judge indeed gave the guy a low bond, but I 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.680 think the fact that you know, he remains in jail 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.160 at this point sort of signifies to the fact that 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.560 and I think these judges go through a process of 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.680 where they look at, you know, hey, what is a 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:40.120 person's financial means, what is their situation? Do they have 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:45.600 the ability to you know, even make that amount of money? 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.160 And I think the fact that the guy, at least 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:50.800 in my knowledge, is still sitting in jail says that 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.160 even at even at ten percent of fifty thousand dollars, 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:55.960 he didn't have the means to get out of jail, 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.920 and so if he if he's still in jail, these 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.760 you'll get the same result. And how much are these 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.880 these super high bonds a million two million dollar bond? 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.480 Is it more for is it more for statement or 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:13.400 show than the actual reality of keeping someone in jail 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.480 or making sure that they show up for their core day. 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.440 So that's what I mean by you know, somewhat of 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.119 the nuanced conversation. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.080 All right, Well, Kevin Aldridge, as always, men, when you're 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.960 on the time flies right by, always appreciate the insight, 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.160 always appreciate the conversation, and keep up the great work. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.360 And we will be talking again before too long. But 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.280 for now we got to run. Kevin Aldridge, thank you 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.480 very much for being here. All right, Thanks Dan, all right, 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.280 Kevin aldridg from the Cincinnati Inquirer. Are always good to 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.200 talk to him. Nine to twenty five, got to get 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:42.920 to a break. Funline is going to be open next 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.360 half hour five one three, seven four nine, seven thousand, 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.160 one eight hundred the Big One. As we roll on 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.840 till noon today. Dan Carroll in for Sloany on seven 0:16:50.920 --> 0:17:05.160 hundred WW seven hundred WLW nine nine Dan carrellin for scott'sloan. Well, 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.159 chilly starts to the day today, going to warm up 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.000 to seventy, so that's gonna be nice. And we a 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.600 little I wasn't really expecting this, but our buddy Chris 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.679 Smitheman has been able to join us for a segment 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.280 here on the Big One. And Chris Smitheman, thanks for 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:19.440 being here. How are you today? 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.040 Hey, brother, thanks for having me on. 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:22.320 Dan. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.639 I always appreciate coming on talking to you. 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.960 I always appreciate you you being here. We heard on 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:29.720 the news at the bottom of the hour there was 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:34.520 another beatdown at the Brady Music Center overnight at the 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:38.160 venue there. I saw the video that signaled ninety nine 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:44.480 posted earlier this morning. Over the weekend, the FOP in 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:48.600 Cincinnati posted this Chris Smithement. Courts have complained that officers 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.360 don't give enough information to room ad judges to help 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:55.280 them make informed decisions. CPS officers made an arrest of 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.480 a guy named Brandon Hill, charged with violining protection order 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:02.200 three times, listing arrests, failed to comply with an officer, 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:06.760 aggravated robbery, trying to disarm an officer. Hill has a 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:12.240 history of convictions domestic violence, felony, drug possession, trafficking drugs, burglary, 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.919 and more. Officers appeared in room A, so Judge Mundy 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.600 had a clear picture of this defendant's history and danger 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.679 to the community. Monday asked if the defendant could make 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.200 a five thousand dollars bond. The defendant said he could. 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:30.640 The judge Monday gave fifty thousand dollars bond ten percent, 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:35.439 and off this guy goes. So this is just a 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:39.359 snapshot of the kind of things that happened in the 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:44.159 court system. And now we have the specter of the 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.920 and thank god we have a federal prosecutors who are 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.240 and I was talking to Kevin Aldrich about this in 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:55.280 the last segment, apparently backstopping now our local judicial system 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:59.560 because they fail time and time and time again. But 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:01.480 the notion that we have to run a lot on 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.520 the Feds to get the job done here in Cincinnati 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.480 and in Hamilton County, I don't think that's a good look. 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.640 And I don't think that's a viable long term solution, do. 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:14.840 You No, I don't. And you know the eleven people 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:18.200 shot in the last week, you know, three people dead, 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.520 you know in the city of Cincinnati, and you barely 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:27.040 get a mention because people are are kind of like 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.119 there's so much apathy around that level of violence. But 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:35.080 you know, when you add the nine people shot last Sunday, 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.439 you're talking twenty injuries to you know, twenty shootings and 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.480 three did in a seven day, eight day period of time, 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:48.600 that it almost feels like a war is going on 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.720 in our city. And I think it's important Dan for 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:57.959 me to highlight that these injuries. The only reason there 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.240 are not more people did I want to seek try 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:03.119 to speak playing to this is because we have a 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:08.200 UC trauma team that is just remarkable, a Christ's Hospital 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:11.960 trauma team. I mean, these people are putting citizens back 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.239 together like they're in a war, like they're in a 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:18.760 war zone. And under normal circumstances, some of these people 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.640 that are shot would die too, they would have succumbed 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:25.840 to their injuries. So my hats go off to our 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:30.480 hospital teams, our emergency teams, our firefighters and police officers 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:35.280 who are giving life aid to these victims before the 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.840 fire department gets there and as they transport them over 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:41.879 to er. Having said all of that, look the politicians 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:46.239 aren't getting you know, the headlines that they want. So 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.600 when you have the beatdown that occurred in downtown Cincinnati, 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.600 all of the politicians were everywhere, Dan, they were on 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.240 every press conference. You couldn't turn on your TV and 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.880 not see them talking about you got to go out 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:01.679 and arrest somebody white, demanding it right. And all of 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:02.639 that was going. 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:02.920 On, right. 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:07.480 But when you have eleven people shot, three dead, all 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:11.679 of them African American, you have other African Americans who 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.919 are killing and doing the shooting, which is horrible. My 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.920 heart goes out to all the victims. You don't hear 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.280 from any member of council, you don't hear from the mayor, 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:23.959 you don't hear from the administration, and it's because they 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:25.919 just don't have a plan, Dan, to deal with this 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:29.760 this violence. You and I know that the penicillin to 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:33.720 this is police enforcement. And so when you have a 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:37.280 culture at city Hall, please listen your listening audience. I 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:40.119 don't care whether you're a Democrat, whether you're Republican or 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:43.000 an independent. Dan, don't carr either. I'm speaking Ran. We 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:46.320 want we're concerned about our safety as number one. Right, 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:48.880