Speaker 1: You want to be an American.
Speaker 2: Right back on the Big One, seven hundred WLW nine nine.
Speaker 2: Dan Carroll in for Scott Sloan Sloaney enjoying the day
Speaker 2: off today. Glad to be here for Sloany. So much
Speaker 2: stuff is going on. We're all paying higher gasoline prices
Speaker 2: right now. My buddy Daniel Turner from Power the Future
Speaker 2: is going to be here to address that in the
Speaker 2: ten o'clock hour, So if you want to get the
Speaker 2: straight scoop on why we're seeing gasoline prices the way
Speaker 2: we are. Obviously, the conflict in the in the Middle
Speaker 2: East is right to call it a Is it a conflict?
Speaker 2: Is it a war? Operation? Epic fury? We're gonna have
Speaker 2: to figure that out. I guess we are at war?
Speaker 2: How long is this going to last? Of course, we're
Speaker 2: all paying higher electricity prices as well, so we'll talk
Speaker 2: to Daniel Turner about that. But we start off this
Speaker 2: morning with my buddy who is the opinion editor at
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Inquirer, and that is Kevin Aldrich. And Kevin
Speaker 2: Aldrich great to have you back on the show this morning.
Speaker 3: How you doing, Hey, I'm doing great, Dan, Thanks for
Speaker 3: having me.
Speaker 2: Is it just me, or does it seem like we
Speaker 2: have been in not only on a national level, but
Speaker 2: on a local level, that we have been in just
Speaker 2: a really extraordinary news cycle as of late.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I always say I've been at this for a
Speaker 3: while now, Dan, and it's like you think you've seen everything,
Speaker 3: and a lot of times news gets recycled, and I
Speaker 3: just say, it never ceases to amaze me that, no
Speaker 3: matter everything I've seen in nearly thirty years of doing this,
Speaker 3: there's always new stuff that comes up that just leaves
Speaker 3: you with your mouth open.
Speaker 4: Sometimes.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I get up this morning and I go to
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Inquirer Cincinnati dot com Inquirer or website, and
Speaker 2: I see a piece written by your colleagues Cameron Knight,
Speaker 2: Gillian Strawinsky, and Matthew Copelli, and it's the headline is
Speaker 2: safety lapses, unkept promises on Cincinnati block where nine kids
Speaker 2: were shot. And this is John Street as Charles Lynn Street,
Speaker 2: the Laura Playground right there in the West End. And
Speaker 2: it's a lengthy piece and really gets into what a
Speaker 2: lot of people in that area are feeling. And they're
Speaker 2: looking at city Hall and they're saying, look, we've been
Speaker 2: promised things, and it really points out just how unresponsive
Speaker 2: in the general sense. I guess there's been a couple
Speaker 2: of things that have been done, but in a general sense,
Speaker 2: it really seems like the city Hall has been unresponsive
Speaker 2: to the serious needs and the serious things that are
Speaker 2: going on in that part of town.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think, and I think it's not just
Speaker 3: probably that neighborhood. I think there are a lot of
Speaker 3: neighborhoods in the City of Cincinnati that sort of feel
Speaker 3: like city Council is not necessarily as responsive as they
Speaker 3: would like for them to be, or as intentional towards
Speaker 3: some neighborhoods as they would like to be, and feel
Speaker 3: like there are certain neighborhoods in the city, whether you're
Speaker 3: talking about downtown or other particular neighborhoods that dominate city
Speaker 3: Council's attention at the expense of other neighborhoods that has
Speaker 3: suffered disinvestment, crime problems, and things of that nature. And
Speaker 3: I think that, you know, that's one of the challenges
Speaker 3: that this council and past councils have kind of continued
Speaker 3: to struggle with, is listening to folks. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: the folks out in Hyde Park, even one of the
Speaker 3: more affluent communities, sort of found out last year how
Speaker 3: difficult it is sometimes to get your voice heard down
Speaker 3: down at city Hall, particularly when they had their designs
Speaker 3: on other things.
Speaker 2: And so I look at this piece, and then I
Speaker 2: look at what the Vice Mayor is proposing, and this
Speaker 2: issue of reparations for housing discrimination. And obviously I think
Speaker 2: there were some serious discrimination issues that plagued Cincinnati in
Speaker 2: the past. But when and she talks about fifteen different neighborhoods,
Speaker 2: fifteen rising neighborhoods that would be eligible for this financial assistance,
Speaker 2: and I look at and then I look at the
Speaker 2: piece this morning, and I'm saying, how do these two
Speaker 2: things square with each other? Because it seems to me,
Speaker 2: Kevin Aldridge, it's a lot more than just about putting
Speaker 2: some money into a particular neighborhood that is really going
Speaker 2: to make any meaningful change for the people who live there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Dan, I kind of slightly disagree with
Speaker 3: that because I think, you know, one of the things
Speaker 3: that has been proven time and again when it comes
Speaker 3: to crime related issues is sort of like the broken
Speaker 3: glass theory. You know that we're all familiar with that
Speaker 3: when the neighborhoods that have a lot of disinvestment, where
Speaker 3: you don't have a lot of quality housing, you have
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, no thriving business center and
Speaker 3: things of that nature, where you have just sort of
Speaker 3: like a lot of low income that that breeds a
Speaker 3: lot of crime and situations like that there. So I
Speaker 3: think that what someone city council and rightfully have identified
Speaker 3: is that neighborhood that have not seen investment, whether that's
Speaker 3: in infrastructure or where you have high high levels of
Speaker 3: home ownership, you know, in communities, that is where you
Speaker 3: see a lot of a lot of crime issues at
Speaker 3: in the city. So I don't think the two things
Speaker 3: are unrelated. That I think that there probably needs to
Speaker 3: be a little bit more investment in neighborhoods and bringing
Speaker 3: those neighborhoods up to a standard where people have opportunities,
Speaker 3: or they have things that they can be proud of,
Speaker 3: or they have ownership in that community in terms of
Speaker 3: home so that properties are taken care of and the
Speaker 3: area is beautified and it's not allowed to run down,
Speaker 3: to be run down where it becomes a breeding ground
Speaker 3: for crime. I don't think those two things are unrelated.
Speaker 3: And I think there's some on city Council who see
Speaker 3: that these fifteen rising communities have been communities that have
Speaker 3: been neglected over the years, and they're looking for ways
Speaker 3: to maybe infuse some resources in those communities to kind
Speaker 3: of bring them back up and get them to a
Speaker 3: place where you know, crime is is, it's less of
Speaker 3: an inviting environment for crime and those sorts of things.
Speaker 3: So I don't think they're totally completely unrelated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just seems to me that it sort of
Speaker 2: boils down to the issue of where you have members
Speaker 2: of council or whoever would be in charge of deciding
Speaker 2: where this money goes. That you have a city, either
Speaker 2: city council or some government controlled entity that is going
Speaker 2: to be picking winners and losers. And I think there's
Speaker 2: a long history on a national and a local level
Speaker 2: that kind of points to that not really being the
Speaker 2: greatest of ideas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think you already have a situation where
Speaker 3: winners and losers are being pig Dan and I think that,
Speaker 3: you know, we again, it goes back to the opening
Speaker 3: point that we were talking about about, you know, folks
Speaker 3: in the in the West End sort of feeling like
Speaker 3: their voices aren't being heard at council. Look, let's just
Speaker 3: be honest that there are certain neighborhoods and certain constituencies
Speaker 3: in the City of Cincinnati whose voices are loud than
Speaker 3: others down at City Hall, and so winners and losers
Speaker 3: are already already being picked. It just so happens that
Speaker 3: most of these fifteen rising communities that they're trying to
Speaker 3: target are typically the communities whose voices never get heard.
Speaker 3: So I think you already have a scenario down at
Speaker 3: eight oh one Plumb Street where winners and losers are
Speaker 3: being picked all the time, and you just have the
Speaker 3: same folks who are winning all the time there at
Speaker 3: City Hall. And I think that's what a lot of
Speaker 3: folks are frustrated and set up with.
Speaker 2: There was a piece that was posted yesterday by I
Speaker 2: think probably one of the sharpest minds in and around
Speaker 2: Cincinnati that I've ever met, n'ts. Carl Kaden, lifelong Cincinnati
Speaker 2: and served in the Criminal Division in the United States
Speaker 2: Attorney's Office and worked here in city government locally city
Speaker 2: and county government. And he wrote a piece in the
Speaker 2: Inquiry about the city needs an agency to identify corruption
Speaker 2: at City Hall and He's talking about an independent agency
Speaker 2: that would have subpoena power, that could really dig deep
Speaker 2: and do investigations. And I look at that, and I
Speaker 2: look at what is and you and I. I don't
Speaker 2: think you and I have talked since the extension. The
Speaker 2: second extension came out into the investigation into the police
Speaker 2: chief Teresa Thigi, and so I look at that, and
Speaker 2: I wonder to myself, how long is this going to
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are asking that, how
Speaker 2: long is the investigation and the Thigi going to drag on?
Speaker 2: Is this really a good look for Cincinnati to have
Speaker 2: our chief twisting in the wind for this amount of time?
Speaker 2: And it looks like this idea that Carl Kayden has
Speaker 2: might be a solution for.
Speaker 5: Something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know mister Caden's piece, which you know,
Speaker 3: which was an interesting piece, but not you know, completely
Speaker 3: unheard of. I mean that, you know, he's probably he's
Speaker 3: probably about the third or fourth person who I can
Speaker 3: think about who has suggested sort of like this office
Speaker 3: of an Inspector General at City Hall that would do
Speaker 3: these types of have this type of independent agency that
Speaker 3: would do these types of investigations of corruption down a
Speaker 3: City Hall. I think, you know, Todd Zenzer might have
Speaker 3: proposed something similar. Charlie Winburn I think maybe if maybe
Speaker 3: around the time of the Gang of Five made a
Speaker 3: similar suggestion. So I think there's a strong sense among
Speaker 3: some in Cincinnati that you need an independent sort of
Speaker 3: third party that's able to kind of take a you know,
Speaker 3: kind of take a look at at what's going on
Speaker 3: down there and doing some investigations of corruption or suspected corruption.
Speaker 3: And I don't know that that's necessarily a bad idea.
Speaker 3: I mean, and I think, you know, to to create
Speaker 3: an air of trust and transparency with the public, I
Speaker 3: think you need to have some mechanism that lets folks
Speaker 3: know and believe that that there are folks who are
Speaker 3: taking look taking a look at how things are handled
Speaker 3: and making sure that tax dollars aren't being abused, and
Speaker 3: that that there's uh not excessive or or really any waste, prouder,
Speaker 3: frauder abuse that's happening down there. So I think I
Speaker 3: think it would be uh, I think it would be
Speaker 3: a good idea, and I think a lot of people
Speaker 3: have have been calling for that. As far as the
Speaker 3: police chief is concerned. Yeah, I think it's it's been.
Speaker 3: It's been. I think it's been way too long for
Speaker 3: them to have made some type of determination on what
Speaker 3: her status is. And and I'm really struggling to understand,
Speaker 3: you know, what is the need for all of these extensions.
Speaker 3: I mean, what is she She's been out now, what
Speaker 3: since October November? So it's yeah, it's been. It's been
Speaker 3: quite a while now, and I think to you know,
Speaker 3: to continue to push this thing out. Uh again, it's
Speaker 3: it's just not a good look for the city because
Speaker 3: it just makes you wonder, Uh, you know, if if
Speaker 3: she had been doing such a such a terrible job,
Speaker 3: it seems like this would be, you know a bit
Speaker 3: of an open and shut case, right. But uh, but
Speaker 3: given the safe history and the fact that, you know,
Speaker 3: some recent hirings that they've had have resulted in some
Speaker 3: lawsuits that that have turned out favorably for the city,
Speaker 3: maybe they're just trying to make sure they've got every
Speaker 3: eye dotted and t cross. I don't know, but it
Speaker 3: but it certainly is not a certainly is not a
Speaker 3: great look for the City of Cincinnati to hear we
Speaker 3: are in March, you know, four or five months after
Speaker 3: the fact that we still don't have a resolution on
Speaker 3: our police chief status and and she still continues to
Speaker 3: get paid on the tax dollar dime. Yeah, raises a
Speaker 3: lot of questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a shame that a woman who has
Speaker 2: given the the length of service and I think the
Speaker 2: exemplary service that she has given to the city of
Speaker 2: Cincinnati for her to have this sort of be that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is going to be and
Speaker 2: I know she doesn't want to be have this be
Speaker 2: the last thing that she's remembered for, but it's just
Speaker 2: an absolute shame that that I think that it has
Speaker 2: come to this. Our old friend Alex Trantefilu posted this
Speaker 2: on his social media over the weekend, and he writes,
Speaker 2: finally some good news and relief for a city suffering
Speaker 2: from the scourge of crime. Federal charges have been brought
Speaker 2: against the two shooters at the Cincinnati night club over
Speaker 2: the weekend. For those unfamiliar with the justice system, the
Speaker 2: federal gun charge will bring a significantly longer prison sentence
Speaker 2: and real consequences. These two repeat violent offenders will assuredly
Speaker 2: be given sentences much longer than our local judges would
Speaker 2: have handed down. And he says thank you President Trump
Speaker 2: to in federal law enforcement for stepping in to help
Speaker 2: our failing justice system. So I look at this what
Speaker 2: Alex is saying, and then we had another stabbing in
Speaker 2: the in the West End, I guess over the weekend,
Speaker 2: and the idea that we need to have a federal
Speaker 2: backstop for local prosecutors, local judges are our local justice
Speaker 2: system that continually has a revolving door that lets criminals
Speaker 2: in and out of the system, sometimes in the matter
Speaker 2: of hours. And even though you you get involved in
Speaker 2: a shooting at a nightclub where nine people wind up
Speaker 2: getting shot, you're talking about you walk on five thousand
Speaker 2: dollars worth of bond uh to have the idea that
Speaker 2: we need a federal backstop for this to bring serious
Speaker 2: charges and bring down some serious punishment for individuals like this, Again,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a good look for for Cincinnati
Speaker 2: or for Hamilton County.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that. I mean, you don't
Speaker 3: want to you don't want to have the sense that
Speaker 3: you have to count on the federal government to be
Speaker 3: as a as a backstop here. Look, I'll just say this,
Speaker 3: with the with the Riverfront Live shooting, I mean, there's
Speaker 3: no question that that the that the low bond that
Speaker 3: the judge gave in that situation probably triggered, uh, the
Speaker 3: Feds getting involved. I think if there had been a
Speaker 3: larger bond set in that situation, I don't think. I mean,
Speaker 3: I can't say this one hundred percent sure, but my
Speaker 3: suspicion is that the federal government probably wouldn't have been
Speaker 3: involved if if a higher bond had gotten set in
Speaker 3: that case. So I don't know. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 3: sure what the sentencing guidelines are at the federal level,
Speaker 3: So I don't necessarily know that it's fair to say
Speaker 3: that they would have gotten you know, large longer sentences
Speaker 3: at the federal level than they would have the or
Speaker 3: the ultimately that they will you know when they go
Speaker 3: through you know, the the the more local system here, Uh,
Speaker 3: that remain that remains to be seen if that would
Speaker 3: if that would happen. So I don't necessarily know if
Speaker 3: that's a if that's a completely fair assessment. But what
Speaker 3: I would say is, I do think the low bond
Speaker 3: in that situation, which I would say, was a mistake
Speaker 3: by that judge. And I think he's a fairly new judge,
Speaker 3: so you know, one might might chalk that up to
Speaker 3: perhaps a bit of a real mistake there. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll I guess we'll have to see in
Speaker 3: that situation and you know, the whole subject around bond,
Speaker 3: you know, I think that's a lot that's a very
Speaker 3: nuanced conversation that I think we don't often have, you know,
Speaker 3: whether that's you know, stories that are reported in the news,
Speaker 3: or when we have these conversations, you know, in formats
Speaker 3: like this. I think it's I think in many ways
Speaker 3: it's it's a little bit more complex than a lot
Speaker 3: of times that we make it. I mean, look, the
Speaker 3: judge indeed gave the guy a low bond, but I
Speaker 3: think the fact that you know, he remains in jail
Speaker 3: at this point sort of signifies to the fact that
Speaker 3: and I think these judges go through a process of
Speaker 3: where they look at, you know, hey, what is a
Speaker 3: person's financial means, what is their situation? Do they have
Speaker 3: the ability to you know, even make that amount of money?
Speaker 3: And I think the fact that the guy, at least
Speaker 3: in my knowledge, is still sitting in jail says that
Speaker 3: even at even at ten percent of fifty thousand dollars,
Speaker 3: he didn't have the means to get out of jail,
Speaker 3: and so if he if he's still in jail, these
Speaker 3: you'll get the same result. And how much are these
Speaker 3: these super high bonds a million two million dollar bond?
Speaker 3: Is it more for is it more for statement or
Speaker 3: show than the actual reality of keeping someone in jail
Speaker 3: or making sure that they show up for their core day.
Speaker 3: So that's what I mean by you know, somewhat of
Speaker 3: the nuanced conversation.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Kevin Aldridge, as always, men, when you're
Speaker 2: on the time flies right by, always appreciate the insight,
Speaker 2: always appreciate the conversation, and keep up the great work.
Speaker 2: And we will be talking again before too long. But
Speaker 2: for now we got to run. Kevin Aldridge, thank you
Speaker 2: very much for being here. All right, Thanks Dan, all right,
Speaker 2: Kevin aldridg from the Cincinnati Inquirer. Are always good to
Speaker 2: talk to him. Nine to twenty five, got to get
Speaker 2: to a break. Funline is going to be open next
Speaker 2: half hour five one three, seven four nine, seven thousand,
Speaker 2: one eight hundred the Big One. As we roll on
Speaker 2: till noon today. Dan Carroll in for Sloany on seven
Speaker 2: hundred WW seven hundred WLW nine nine Dan carrellin for scott'sloan. Well,
Speaker 2: chilly starts to the day today, going to warm up
Speaker 2: to seventy, so that's gonna be nice. And we a
Speaker 2: little I wasn't really expecting this, but our buddy Chris
Speaker 2: Smitheman has been able to join us for a segment
Speaker 2: here on the Big One. And Chris Smitheman, thanks for
Speaker 2: being here. How are you today?
Speaker 6: Hey, brother, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 5: Dan.
Speaker 6: I always appreciate coming on talking to you.
Speaker 2: I always appreciate you you being here. We heard on
Speaker 2: the news at the bottom of the hour there was
Speaker 2: another beatdown at the Brady Music Center overnight at the
Speaker 2: venue there. I saw the video that signaled ninety nine
Speaker 2: posted earlier this morning. Over the weekend, the FOP in
Speaker 2: Cincinnati posted this Chris Smithement. Courts have complained that officers
Speaker 2: don't give enough information to room ad judges to help
Speaker 2: them make informed decisions. CPS officers made an arrest of
Speaker 2: a guy named Brandon Hill, charged with violining protection order
Speaker 2: three times, listing arrests, failed to comply with an officer,
Speaker 2: aggravated robbery, trying to disarm an officer. Hill has a
Speaker 2: history of convictions domestic violence, felony, drug possession, trafficking drugs, burglary,
Speaker 2: and more. Officers appeared in room A, so Judge Mundy
Speaker 2: had a clear picture of this defendant's history and danger
Speaker 2: to the community. Monday asked if the defendant could make
Speaker 2: a five thousand dollars bond. The defendant said he could.
Speaker 2: The judge Monday gave fifty thousand dollars bond ten percent,
Speaker 2: and off this guy goes. So this is just a
Speaker 2: snapshot of the kind of things that happened in the
Speaker 2: court system. And now we have the specter of the
Speaker 2: and thank god we have a federal prosecutors who are
Speaker 2: and I was talking to Kevin Aldrich about this in
Speaker 2: the last segment, apparently backstopping now our local judicial system
Speaker 2: because they fail time and time and time again. But
Speaker 2: the notion that we have to run a lot on
Speaker 2: the Feds to get the job done here in Cincinnati
Speaker 2: and in Hamilton County, I don't think that's a good look.
Speaker 2: And I don't think that's a viable long term solution, do.
Speaker 6: You No, I don't. And you know the eleven people
Speaker 6: shot in the last week, you know, three people dead,
Speaker 6: you know in the city of Cincinnati, and you barely
Speaker 6: get a mention because people are are kind of like
Speaker 6: there's so much apathy around that level of violence. But
Speaker 6: you know, when you add the nine people shot last Sunday,
Speaker 6: you're talking twenty injuries to you know, twenty shootings and
Speaker 6: three did in a seven day, eight day period of time,
Speaker 6: that it almost feels like a war is going on
Speaker 6: in our city. And I think it's important Dan for
Speaker 6: me to highlight that these injuries. The only reason there
Speaker 6: are not more people did I want to seek try
Speaker 6: to speak playing to this is because we have a
Speaker 6: UC trauma team that is just remarkable, a Christ's Hospital
Speaker 6: trauma team. I mean, these people are putting citizens back
Speaker 6: together like they're in a war, like they're in a
Speaker 6: war zone. And under normal circumstances, some of these people
Speaker 6: that are shot would die too, they would have succumbed
Speaker 6: to their injuries. So my hats go off to our
Speaker 6: hospital teams, our emergency teams, our firefighters and police officers
Speaker 6: who are giving life aid to these victims before the
Speaker 6: fire department gets there and as they transport them over
Speaker 6: to er. Having said all of that, look the politicians
Speaker 6: aren't getting you know, the headlines that they want. So
Speaker 6: when you have the beatdown that occurred in downtown Cincinnati,
Speaker 6: all of the politicians were everywhere, Dan, they were on
Speaker 6: every press conference. You couldn't turn on your TV and
Speaker 6: not see them talking about you got to go out
Speaker 6: and arrest somebody white, demanding it right. And all of
Speaker 6: that was going.
Speaker 5: On, right.
Speaker 6: But when you have eleven people shot, three dead, all
Speaker 6: of them African American, you have other African Americans who
Speaker 6: are killing and doing the shooting, which is horrible. My
Speaker 6: heart goes out to all the victims. You don't hear
Speaker 6: from any member of council, you don't hear from the mayor,
Speaker 6: you don't hear from the administration, and it's because they
Speaker 6: just don't have a plan, Dan, to deal with this
Speaker 6: this violence. You and I know that the penicillin to
Speaker 6: this is police enforcement. And so when you have a
Speaker 6: culture at city Hall, please listen your listening audience. I
Speaker 6: don't care whether you're a Democrat, whether you're Republican or
Speaker 6: an independent. Dan, don't carr either. I'm speaking Ran. We
Speaker 6: want we're concerned about our safety as number one. Right,
Speaker 6: you would think that would be unifying, no matter what
Speaker 6: your political party or persuasion was right. So the end
Speaker 6: of you have a council that's anti cop or defund
Speaker 6: the police or reimagine the police. We don't want our
Speaker 6: sight police officers out there doing proactive policing. And that
Speaker 6: is one of the reasons you constantly see this increase,
Speaker 6: this pick up that you're seeing in our neighborhoods, in
Speaker 6: our fifty two neighborhoods of this kind of crime and
Speaker 6: this kind of violence.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think that's why we see, like as
Speaker 2: this post I just read, Now, here's a guy that's
Speaker 2: been arrested multiple times, been convicted multiple times, and he
Speaker 2: finds himself in front of a judge again. These two
Speaker 2: shooters who were involved in the shooting at Riverfront Live,
Speaker 2: they were arrested multiple times, both with felony convictions, both
Speaker 2: with weapons under disability, not supposed to be in possession
Speaker 2: of a firearm. And then we have a prosecutor who
Speaker 2: comes out and says, well, this is self defense for
Speaker 2: the one guy. The one guy would you know, pulled
Speaker 2: the trigger on the other guy, but the other guy
Speaker 2: was acting in self defense. I mean, how can we
Speaker 2: possibly have a prosecutor that is going to excuse the
Speaker 2: other crimes that were taking place that should not have
Speaker 2: taken place. And again, multiple felonies, multiple convictions, and yet
Speaker 2: I think there was a time when these people were
Speaker 2: not on the streets when they face serious consequences for
Speaker 2: committing crimes. But if we don't deliver serious consequences, then
Speaker 2: these are the results that we get. Like you've just been.
Speaker 6: Talking about, I agree, but let me also highlight something
Speaker 6: in a quick footnote. Black Americans, like white Americans in
Speaker 6: our country, but specifically in Cincinnati, are waking up every
Speaker 6: day going to their job. They're listening to us right
Speaker 6: now as they do their work. We are concerned about
Speaker 6: our babies, our children, our young adults who are trying
Speaker 6: to have a good time in our city, and we
Speaker 6: don't want them to be shot. They're the silent, super
Speaker 6: silent majority. The only thing that I have not been
Speaker 6: able to get my head wrapped around, and I'm hoping
Speaker 6: that this changes, is that we meaning me as a
Speaker 6: black American and speaking to black Americans, that we get
Speaker 6: to the point where we're not wedded to a party,
Speaker 6: so that we're not just wedded to the Democratic Party,
Speaker 6: no matter what they say, no matter what they do,
Speaker 6: no matter how they treat us. For example, the governor
Speaker 6: of California two weeks ago in Atlanta saying, hey, here's
Speaker 6: here's my SAT score. And by the way, I can
Speaker 6: read or I don't read well, in some way I'm
Speaker 6: going to connect with you. I'm not connecting you with
Speaker 6: you with your nine to sixty on your SAT. And
Speaker 6: I'm not connecting with you when you say that you
Speaker 6: have problems reading. Let me be clear with everybody. All
Speaker 6: of my children, all four of my boys, are all
Speaker 6: academic scholars, engineers, holding jobs, or they're working on a
Speaker 6: master's degree. And my daughter is a scholar at Setan.
Speaker 6: I have no idea what that man is talking about
Speaker 6: in Atlanta, and the people in his audience didn't know.
Speaker 6: That is what we call the identity politics that are dead.
Speaker 6: That's why Jesse Jackson Junior Dan Carroll said this week,
Speaker 6: why did these three presidents who didn't even know my
Speaker 6: father come to his funeral and give us political talk.
Speaker 6: It's not what they were supposed to do. It's not
Speaker 6: what I asked them to do. That's a new philosophy,
Speaker 6: he said, Republican, Democrat, independent, no matter who you are,
Speaker 6: this is Jesse Jackson Junior speaking at his father's services
Speaker 6: his memorial, He's saying, we are about the public policy,
Speaker 6: we are not about the party, and so we've got
Speaker 6: to separate as Black Americans from the party. So when
Speaker 6: you see eleven people shot, Dan Carroll and you don't
Speaker 6: find mayor Purevall anywhere, You cannot find any of the
Speaker 6: members of council with a search warrant, you can't find
Speaker 6: the administration anywhere to speak about the violence and say
Speaker 6: what is the plan? And the reason they don't want
Speaker 6: to do it. I'm gonna make it real clear is
Speaker 6: they don't want to send a message that they support cops.
Speaker 6: I don't know where these these blue dog democrats who
Speaker 6: don't exist anymore, who we used the Tom Lukens of
Speaker 6: the world, to Charlie Lukens of the world, the John
Speaker 6: Cranley's of the world, who said, hey man, I can
Speaker 6: support the police, I can make sure that we have
Speaker 6: a safe community. They want to basically coddle criminals. And
Speaker 6: that's what you're speaking about when you say you shot
Speaker 6: nine people and I'm going to give you a fifty
Speaker 6: thousand dollars bond and back on the street the next day.
Speaker 6: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, I was. I watched some of that funeral of
Speaker 2: Jesse Jackson over the weekend, and I heard, I actually
Speaker 2: got I have the sound bite of Jesse Jackson's son saying,
Speaker 2: don't politicize this funeral, and that's exactly what Barack Obama did,
Speaker 2: and so did Kamala Harris for that matter. And then
Speaker 2: we have the specter of Joe Biden getting up there
Speaker 2: talking about how he's got this stuttering issue, and then
Speaker 2: he says, I'm a hell of a lot smarter than
Speaker 2: all of you, and I'm just just thinking, what, what?
Speaker 1: What kind of.
Speaker 2: Message is this?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 2: And look, Jesse Jackson, I was thinking. I almost voted
Speaker 2: for Jesse Jackson when he ran for president back in
Speaker 2: the eighties. And what he used to say all the
Speaker 2: time is let's do what Let's find common ground, Let's
Speaker 2: find common ground. But it seems that in our political
Speaker 2: discussions these days, we are as far away from that
Speaker 2: as we can possibly be. It seems like it's impossible
Speaker 2: to find common ground on just about any issue at all.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 6: And just remember, as we talk about Jesse Jackson to
Speaker 6: everyone listening, it's not about agreeing with everything about this man.
Speaker 6: But let's make sure we have a context. He was
Speaker 6: born in the nineteen thirties or the nineteen forties, early
Speaker 6: nineteen forties, and he came up in a period of
Speaker 6: time where he had to walk through the back door
Speaker 6: to get a sandwich, and he saw people like the president,
Speaker 6: whether it was Kennedy or you saw Martin Luther King
Speaker 6: or Maker Evers, Malcolm X, all these people that were
Speaker 6: being assassinated. That was the world that he lived in.
Speaker 6: And so I just want to state, yes, we're in
Speaker 6: a much better place today than we were in the
Speaker 6: nineteen sixties, but it's because of some of the work,
Speaker 6: and some of the work like people like Jesse Jackson
Speaker 6: and did. And so what the Son was saying here
Speaker 6: is why don't you come and speak to his great
Speaker 6: work right places where you found common ground with him,
Speaker 6: not using his services as a political launching point for
Speaker 6: your presidential run or for some position that you want
Speaker 6: to talk about to democrats. It's not who we are.
Speaker 6: And I was very appreciative of Jesse Jackson Junior highlighting
Speaker 6: that for the three presidents, and what he said was
Speaker 6: not any of the none of these presidents. Dan Carroll
Speaker 6: knew my father. I mean that was very powerful. He
Speaker 6: was sitting a message like, dude, all you all had
Speaker 6: to do here is come and just say eulogize him
Speaker 6: and appreciate the work that his work that he did.
Speaker 6: We didn't want you to come here and be political.
Speaker 6: Whether it was Biden, whether it was Kamala Eiris, or
Speaker 6: whether it was a President Barack Obama, none of them
Speaker 6: should have been doing any of that at his services.
Speaker 6: But getting back to your point, Dan Carroll, the violence
Speaker 6: that is happening in our core, we want to be
Speaker 6: honest here that these are predominantly Black Americans who are
Speaker 6: killing or shooting other Black Americans in the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 6: You might go to another city and say it's a
Speaker 6: different violence between different cultures or different people, But in
Speaker 6: the city of Cincinnati, these are Black Americans who are
Speaker 6: shooting and hurting other Black Americans. We've got to be
Speaker 6: real about this, and we've got to have a mayor
Speaker 6: and a council and an administration that not just a
Speaker 6: mural on the outside of city Hall that says Black
Speaker 6: lives matter, but they have public policy that matches that
Speaker 6: they are concerned about that. That's not a streetcar, Dan Carroll,
Speaker 6: It's not spending five million dollars a year or five
Speaker 6: million dollars a month to operate a streetcar. Right their
Speaker 6: their mindset is around all of this other stuff that
Speaker 6: they're doing, and they really don't care. That's the frustration
Speaker 6: that we have. I think with the Democratic Party. Many
Speaker 6: a lot of people are telling me, right now, the
Speaker 6: Democratic Party has left me. I don't even know what
Speaker 6: this party represents. Right They're talking about I need men
Speaker 6: inside of locker rooms with women, which makes no sense.
Speaker 6: If you talk to Black Americans who vote, many of
Speaker 6: them would say that just doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 6: Doesn't mean that they don't support the LGBTQ plus community.
Speaker 6: They're saying, why is my party pushing me in this
Speaker 6: direction that I have to agree with a dude swimming
Speaker 6: or playing football or playing soccer and at a high
Speaker 6: school level against my daughters. That just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 6: And that's where the Democratic Party is pushing us. Here's
Speaker 6: the last point. I'll say. We've got to vote in May.
Speaker 6: We've got a primary, we got a November in Hamilton County.
Speaker 6: We need people to show up and participate and vote.
Speaker 6: We've got some judicial races, we have a gubernatorial race.
Speaker 6: I'm supporting the vet Ramaswami. I would like to see
Speaker 6: him be the next governor. I do not want to
Speaker 6: turn our state into Virginia. I don't want to wake
Speaker 6: up and we have a craziness that's coming out of Virginia.
Speaker 6: That's why that gubernatorial race is so important.
Speaker 2: All right, well, Chris Smithvan, we're going to have to
Speaker 2: leave it there. We could go on and on and on,
Speaker 2: but as always, I appreciate your insights and your thoughts
Speaker 2: on this sort of thing, and appreciate you taking the
Speaker 2: time to join us this morning. Keep up the great
Speaker 2: work and people want to follow you. If people want
Speaker 2: to follow you, where do they do that? I know
Speaker 2: you love to talk about that.
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Speaker 4: Thank you brother.
Speaker 2: All right, Chris Smithervan, thank you very much, and stay
Speaker 2: safe out there, man. I always appreciate Chris Smitherman. Way
Speaker 2: in in coming up after the news here at the
Speaker 2: top of the hour, my friend evangel and Duval of
Speaker 2: the Varner Foundation for Children and Families is going to
Speaker 2: be here and there is a lot going on as
Speaker 2: it relates to foster care, and every minute and a
Speaker 2: half another kid goes into foster care. And not only locally,
Speaker 2: but nationally as well. We have a lot of kids
Speaker 2: that they need help, and this administration, the Trump administration,
Speaker 2: is actually trying to do something thing about it. And
Speaker 2: how are things going here locally? Tim Tebow was on
Speaker 2: Capitol Hill last week talking about the just thousands of
Speaker 2: kids who are out there who are an abusive situations,
Speaker 2: and he's trying to get Congress to act to create
Speaker 2: a task force that is going to go out and
Speaker 2: rescue these kids. So we'll talk to Evangeline Deval after
Speaker 2: the news here at the top of the hour about
Speaker 2: that nine point fifty four. Dan Carroll for Scott's Slum
Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW, Do.
Speaker 1: You want to be an American Idiot?
Speaker 2: Back on the Big One, seven hundred WLW ten O seven.
Speaker 2: Dan Carroll in for Scott Sloan today and last week
Speaker 2: I was watching and listening as Tim Tebow was testifying
Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill. I think second or third time he's
Speaker 2: been up there, and he's been just staying on top
Speaker 2: of Congress members of Congress to fight trafficking, child trafficking,
Speaker 2: child abuse, child rescuing children who have been caught up
Speaker 2: in just absolutely horrible situations. And so whenever I see
Speaker 2: stuff like that, I think of my friend Evangeline Duval
Speaker 2: and she is with the Varner Foundation for Children and Families,
Speaker 2: and Evangeline Deval. It is great to have you back
Speaker 2: on seven hundred WIW.
Speaker 8: Well, good morning, and thank you for inviting me back there.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I was looking at a post on the of the
Speaker 2: Varner Foundation a couple of days ago, and you talk
Speaker 2: about foster and kinship care, and back in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: a child entered foster and kinship care every two minutes.
Speaker 2: Today it is every minute and a half. So we have,
Speaker 2: I guess, more stress on the foster care system today
Speaker 2: than we've ever had before. Is that a fair statement?
Speaker 9: That's very fair.
Speaker 8: We have more kids going into foster care and kinship,
Speaker 8: and the difference between the two is kinship they're going
Speaker 8: to a family men or of best friend of one
Speaker 8: of their parents or whatever. But then they get taken
Speaker 8: off the foster kids count. So a lot of times
Speaker 8: when you talk about foster care and you read and
Speaker 8: they say our numbers are going down, they're really not.
Speaker 8: They're they're just finding other placements for these kids, but
Speaker 8: they're really still in foster care. A lot of the
Speaker 8: kids so lived with a relative they'd never met, in
Speaker 8: a state that isn't their own.
Speaker 9: So it is getting worse for sure.
Speaker 2: We talked last time. One of the last times we
Speaker 2: talked was back in November of last year when the
Speaker 2: Trump administration put out an executive order on fostering. They
Speaker 2: call it fostering the Future of American Children and Families.
Speaker 2: And so this is something that Malaney and Trump has
Speaker 2: taken an interest in, and they talked about getting more resources,
Speaker 2: more resources out there, more access to federal support, expanding
Speaker 2: educational opportunities. They talk about economic literacy for a lot
Speaker 2: of these kids who are aging out of the system.
Speaker 2: So it's only been a few months now, but when
Speaker 2: when you have a federal program like this and foster
Speaker 2: care gets the attention of the White House and the administration,
Speaker 2: have have you seen any results of that yet? Or
Speaker 2: do something like this is going to take a little
Speaker 2: while before you see any any any tangible evidence that
Speaker 2: it's making a difference.
Speaker 8: I don't chane it candible yet. But it's only been
Speaker 8: a few months and they have a lot of things
Speaker 8: in the work. I mean, test eighty five thousand youth
Speaker 8: age out of foster care each year, and that's a
Speaker 8: big thing to try and figure out. So it's there.
Speaker 8: It's going to take some time. But I think what
Speaker 8: I struggle with is that to help these kids, it's
Speaker 8: not going to be a one size fit's all ever.
Speaker 8: And this is what we Even the kids that don't
Speaker 8: age out, they're stuck in this cycle. Everybody knows that
Speaker 8: the foster system is broken and it needs some different attention.
Speaker 8: From my perspective, it needs to be brought down to
Speaker 8: the community level and giving a lot of these agencies
Speaker 8: with these people that just are so wonderful and working
Speaker 8: with these kids a lot more flexibility, less red hate,
Speaker 8: so that when they do age out, they don't have
Speaker 8: all the problems that the cop administration and Malaney are
Speaker 8: trying to tackle. Let's go back to the source. And
Speaker 8: it's the same thing with Tim Tebow. He is on
Speaker 8: an international stage and he's talking about internationally all the
Speaker 8: children that are being traveled, well here in the United
Speaker 8: States on what who you want to cite anywhere from
Speaker 8: sixty to ninety percent of the children in the US
Speaker 8: that are traffic have spent time in foster care, So
Speaker 8: wrap your head around that. So if that is true,
Speaker 8: and I have no way of knowing whether it's sixty
Speaker 8: or ninety percent, then let's go back to the foster
Speaker 8: care system because if we can make real out of
Speaker 8: the inroads in that system, there are left kids that
Speaker 8: are going to end up being traffic. So again, with
Speaker 8: what the Trump Trump administration is doing is amazing, but
Speaker 8: let's go back down to our route of how did
Speaker 8: we get here?
Speaker 9: What do these kids need?
Speaker 8: Not a one size it's all. Part of the reason
Speaker 8: that the Barner Foundation is so successful is because we
Speaker 8: stand in that resource gap for these families that are
Speaker 8: trying to foster these kids because they don't get the
Speaker 8: support they need from other systems. A great example is
Speaker 8: we had a big who was born in withdrawal in ICU.
Speaker 8: Had a wonderful foster family that stood up and said,
Speaker 8: we'll take this child, but she couldn't be released from
Speaker 8: the hospital unless she was on oxygen. Well, they took
Speaker 8: her home, Medicare brought oxygen for her, but they would
Speaker 8: not take for a portable oxygen, so they couldn't go
Speaker 8: anywhere with her. So they were tethered to the house,
Speaker 8: and they applied and plied, applied to other things b
Speaker 8: jfs and all the rest of it. And the way
Speaker 8: is always at least twelve to eighteen months even to
Speaker 8: get a reply on whether they're going to even accommodate you.
Speaker 8: And by that time a lot of parents had given up.
Speaker 8: So we ended up paying for a portable oxygen unit
Speaker 8: for this little girl. And the mom emailed me and said,
Speaker 8: we all get as a family to go watch my son's.
Speaker 9: Baseball this weekend for the very first one.
Speaker 8: And it's I know, And there's those kinds of things
Speaker 8: that happen all the time. So a lot of what
Speaker 8: we stand in the resource gap for will eventually be
Speaker 8: supplied by Medicare or JFF or whatever. But the way
Speaker 8: to get these things taken care of is so long.
Speaker 8: We had another intense.
Speaker 9: With a child that needed a specialized safety beds because
Speaker 9: he was autistic and he would get us and he
Speaker 9: would hurt himself, and that way was eighteen months again.
Speaker 8: And in the meantime, he's on his fifth placement because
Speaker 8: you're wearing a foster parent out because one of them
Speaker 8: had to stay up all night and make sure he
Speaker 8: was safe. These are the things that we need as
Speaker 8: a as a community to go back and say, Okay,
Speaker 8: we need to we need to get all the red
Speaker 8: tape out of the way. We need to meet each.
Speaker 9: Child where they are.
Speaker 8: No child that has been through trauma it has the
Speaker 8: same challenges. None of them do. Some of them may
Speaker 8: be a the same that it's an individual thing. And
Speaker 8: if we really want good outcomes, so these kids aren't traffic,
Speaker 8: so they don't run away, so they don't have no
Speaker 8: place else to go once they age out, we need
Speaker 8: to get back.
Speaker 9: To the roots.
Speaker 8: And the roots have got to be in the community,
Speaker 8: and we need to be that. We have a huge
Speaker 8: shortage of foster parents because it's hard. Not only that hard,
Speaker 8: you get yeah exactly, I foster for kids in my
Speaker 8: real lifetime, and it's hard. You don't get phone calls back,
Speaker 8: you don't get all the things that you need, and
Speaker 8: what ends up happening is it becomes so disruptive to
Speaker 8: your life and your and your family and you feel
Speaker 8: like you're drowning. You're going to ask that child to
Speaker 8: be rehomed. Well, every time you rehome them, it's more
Speaker 8: trauma up on trauma, trauma. And remember, these kids aren't
Speaker 8: in the foster system to anything that they've done wrong.
Speaker 9: They are they are taking the.
Speaker 8: Burden of the consequence for their parents acts. So what
Speaker 8: their parents did have caused them to be in this
Speaker 8: and yet they're traumatized, comte and I will and it's
Speaker 8: not right.
Speaker 9: It's just not right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think of the different families that I've known
Speaker 2: over the years that have been involved in fostering kids,
Speaker 2: and I look at these families and they're extraordinary. I mean,
Speaker 2: they really really are there. And it's not that they're
Speaker 2: doing anything special, but they're extraordinary in the way they're
Speaker 2: able to open their hearts and open their homes and
Speaker 2: and go the extra mile on almost a daily basis
Speaker 2: for these kids. And they don't you know, they don't
Speaker 2: make any money doing it. And it's a it's a
Speaker 2: strain on the resources. And you got and you guys
Speaker 2: constantly talk about how fifty percent of those who are
Speaker 2: involved in foster care they they have to give it
Speaker 2: up simply because it's it's such a strain on the resources.
Speaker 2: I think you have a lot of people who are
Speaker 2: well intended and want to do right by these kids.
Speaker 2: So it's not always a nightmare scenario, but just when
Speaker 2: it comes down to the bottom financial line, a lot
Speaker 2: of these families just can't make it happen well.
Speaker 8: And it's going to disrupt your family routine too, especially
Speaker 8: if these children one third of all the children DAN
Speaker 8: in foster care are disabled one third, so that means
Speaker 8: doctor's appointment, and this is on top of the therapy
Speaker 8: that these kids should have anyway if they're in foster care,
Speaker 8: which they are, but often it's weekly doctor's appointment, children's
Speaker 8: or someplace else, and it's a lot of it's a
Speaker 8: lot of time that you invest in these kids, and
Speaker 8: these parents really love these kids and really want to
Speaker 8: make a difference, but sometimes it just gets to the point,
Speaker 8: especially with kids that were traffic and you and I
Speaker 8: have talked about this, once they're once they're rescued, and
Speaker 8: I take I mean Tim Tebow is a wonderful advocate
Speaker 8: for these kids that are trafficked and trying to make them,
Speaker 8: trying to find where they are and rescue them. But
Speaker 8: once they're rescued, what do we do with them? Our
Speaker 8: foster program is already broken. If you take a kid
Speaker 8: that has been sexually abused for years and sold and
Speaker 8: beaten and all these other things that you know are
Speaker 8: addicted to drugs. A lot of them are because that's
Speaker 8: what makes them compliant during their abuse. And you turn
Speaker 8: around and want to place them in a foster home.
Speaker 8: That's a that doesn't work. It just doesn't work because
Speaker 8: you they have so many physical and mental and social
Speaker 8: emotional needs that they don't sit in. So a lot
Speaker 8: has to go back to We cannot have all these
Speaker 8: one size stif doll trainings and programs. We need to
Speaker 8: really reach out and change the way that we do this.
Speaker 8: It needs to be individualized. And again that's why I
Speaker 8: said it needs to come back to the community. And
Speaker 8: if we had it said that if every church in
Speaker 8: Ohio were to have one family fostering with the rest
Speaker 8: of the church family coming around them and supporting them
Speaker 8: by giving him rested care and helping them out with
Speaker 8: transportation and all this other kind of stuff, we wouldn't
Speaker 8: have any We wouldn't have a shortage of foster parents
Speaker 8: because it just takes a lot. I mean, for instance,
Speaker 8: when I had my my last foster kid, I have
Speaker 8: a very great friend that lives in Kentucky. I'm not
Speaker 8: allowed to take her over state lines. I couldn't take
Speaker 8: her there. Real you're not allowed to take a child
Speaker 8: yet without permission. You can't.
Speaker 2: For any reason for a visit, for aion, just spend
Speaker 2: spending you know, a saturd they swimming in the pool or.
Speaker 4: Something like that.
Speaker 8: Right, and if you have a child.
Speaker 2: How about that.
Speaker 8: Well, one of them, one of the faster kids I had,
Speaker 8: was eleven, and she wasn't even allowed to go to
Speaker 8: speak a sleepover unless they had investigated the parents. I mean,
Speaker 8: I understand the premise behind all that, because you're trying
Speaker 8: to because they're keeping that child safe. But we've got
Speaker 8: to do it and you can apply that. It takes
Speaker 8: days or sometimes weeks to be able to.
Speaker 2: Get that get that propose, going to say, it doesn't
Speaker 2: sound very practical in reality. When you do you try
Speaker 2: to make that work in a in a real life scenario,
Speaker 2: right yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 8: God for bitch, they should go to this sleepover and
Speaker 8: something happened to them, because then they are When a
Speaker 8: foster child is with you, you have no rights. You
Speaker 8: have no rights. The the they're the ward of they're
Speaker 8: the ward of the county. Ward is I mean, you
Speaker 8: have you are just caring for them for the time being,
Speaker 8: so you have very little say. And that's why foster
Speaker 8: parents think that they they're burnt out. They have no resources,
Speaker 8: and they just don't feel like they have any support.
Speaker 8: What they're they're turning their lives upside down inside out
Speaker 8: for God's take. Then need a little bit of support,
Speaker 8: and the support is so tied up in the system
Speaker 8: and the red tape. Again, I keep harping back to this,
Speaker 8: but let's put this back into into our community's hands,
Speaker 8: in their labs, and say, why don't we come around
Speaker 8: these kids in our own community, our own our own
Speaker 8: part of the part of Ohio, or even just the state,
Speaker 8: and let's decide how we're going to work with these kids,
Speaker 8: because other than that, they really don't have much of
Speaker 8: a chance. These kids, you're never going to get anywhere
Speaker 8: with these kids, their behavior, their learning ability, they're all neurodivergent.
Speaker 8: They all are behind at school. Most of them will
Speaker 8: never graduate all this other kind of stuff because their
Speaker 8: brain doesn't feel safe, and they don't because they don't
Speaker 8: feel safe, they don't trust. They've been learned, they've learned
Speaker 8: not to trust people. And until they can and they
Speaker 8: feel safe. You can't break through to them on so
Speaker 8: many different levels, and that we need to talk about that,
Speaker 8: and we need to understand what they've been through. When
Speaker 8: you have a child this place with you, you are
Speaker 8: not told, well, but why they are there, because that's privileged.
Speaker 3: They hold it back.
Speaker 8: You have no idea. A little little boy once that
Speaker 8: was placed here in the middle of the night and
Speaker 8: I went to run him a bath because it was
Speaker 8: he was so he stealthy, had to toe and he
Speaker 8: just lost it and lost it. And it wasn't until
Speaker 8: I understood that they used to hold his head under
Speaker 8: the water. Well, sure would have been nice to know
Speaker 8: that before he came.
Speaker 2: He unbelieved.
Speaker 8: So it's always it's always a challenge. But I think
Speaker 8: if a again, foster care is so so important and
Speaker 8: if people can't foster, this is a huge commitment. Please
Speaker 8: please please try and donate to Barner Foundation for Children
Speaker 8: and Families or another foundation like that that stands in
Speaker 8: the resource gap so that we can give these families
Speaker 8: the support that they need so that they can continue
Speaker 8: and will continue to love on these kids and keep
Speaker 8: them safe and provide a better future for them.
Speaker 2: Well and of Angeline We've only got about a minute
Speaker 2: or so left here, but again, that's what that's one
Speaker 2: of the reasons why I love having you on and
Speaker 2: I love talking about the Varner Foundation because it's it's
Speaker 2: a great organization. You don't take a dime for yourselves,
Speaker 2: not every penny that that you raise in fundraising goes
Speaker 2: to the mission, and I think that's one of the
Speaker 2: most important things. And I will never stop having you
Speaker 2: guys on because you're so dedicated to what you do
Speaker 2: and I just can't think of anything that's more important
Speaker 2: than helping these kids out in Ohio. Plays such a
Speaker 2: big part when it comes to children being trafficked and
Speaker 2: the lives of these kids being ruined. I know, look,
Speaker 2: I know there's great foster families out there, and not
Speaker 2: every case is the worst case scenario, but when people
Speaker 2: need help, Thank God for that, The Varner Foundation and people.
Speaker 4: Like you were there, well, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Thank you. You love what we do.
Speaker 2: I know you do, and there's no more passionate advocate
Speaker 2: than you are. Evangeline. We got to run. As always,
Speaker 2: I appreciate the time, keep up the great work and
Speaker 2: we'll be seeing you soon and have you on again
Speaker 2: before too long.
Speaker 8: Oh, thanks so much, have a great day, Dan.
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Evangeline Deval and just saw
Speaker 2: all you have to do is google it. The Varner
Speaker 2: Foundation for Families and Children, just great work that they
Speaker 2: do over there. Ten twenty four. We got to get
Speaker 2: to a break, Daniel Turner, Power the Future. On the
Speaker 2: other side of this, we'll talk about gas prices, electric prices,
Speaker 2: straight to horror moves, all that stuff as we roll
Speaker 2: on till noon today on seven hundred WLW. Al right
Speaker 2: back on the back one, seven hundred WLW ten thirty eight,
Speaker 2: Dan Carroll for Scott Sloan today. I'm not sure if
Speaker 2: Slony is back tomorrow or not, but for me, it
Speaker 2: wouldn't be a show unless I had on this guy.
Speaker 2: Power of the Future is the website. The guy who
Speaker 2: puts it all together is my buddy, Daniel Turner, one
Speaker 2: of the most sought after analysts when it comes to energy,
Speaker 2: economic policy, political policy, anything under the sun. My buddy
Speaker 2: Daniel Turner can field it all. Daniel, how are you
Speaker 2: doing today?
Speaker 4: Oh boy, what a day we are having, Dan. But
Speaker 4: it's always a pleasure to be.
Speaker 2: On with you, it is. It is always great to
Speaker 2: have you on. We got up this morning and we
Speaker 2: see that oil is hitting one hundred dollars a barrel
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati. A week ago, we were paying two
Speaker 2: forty nine for a gallon of gas. Now we're paying
Speaker 2: three point thirty nine for a gallon of gas. People
Speaker 2: are wondering why the gas prices are so high. I
Speaker 2: think we know because of the conflict of war in
Speaker 2: the Middle East, to Operation Epic Fury. I'm reading stories
Speaker 2: about the Straits of Horror moves. The straits are open,
Speaker 2: the straits are not open. Ships that got through this
Speaker 2: weekend they didn't get through. I don't know what to
Speaker 2: believe about the reporting that's going on there, but I
Speaker 2: guess because really, anytime there's there're shooting going on and
Speaker 2: missiles flying around in the Middle East, that's going to
Speaker 2: have an effect on oil prices.
Speaker 4: It does. And any of us of a certain age
Speaker 4: have known that whenever something happens in the Middle East,
Speaker 4: it affects oil prices. So maybe maybe this will be
Speaker 4: the very last time for the foreseeable future, hopefully forever,
Speaker 4: that actions in the Middle East affect oil prices. Maybe
Speaker 4: we can actually end this nonsense. So oil prices are
Speaker 4: global command and what happens on the world stage impacts
Speaker 4: America and oil markets hate uncertainty, and that's what we
Speaker 4: have right now. We don't know what the hell the
Speaker 4: future is going to bring. We had sixty dollars barrel
Speaker 4: oil for the first year of the Trump administration because
Speaker 4: there were certainty, not just geopolitical, but there was permitting certainty,
Speaker 4: There was financing certainty, there was regulatory certainty. And when
Speaker 4: all of those things happened together, everyone just kind of
Speaker 4: calms down and oil prices drop. And that's why we
Speaker 4: saw very, very cheap oil and gasoline for as long
Speaker 4: as we did. Right now, we don't know what the
Speaker 4: future is going to bring, and that makes people absolutely petrified.
Speaker 4: More specifically, the gasoline prices. The reason why they jump
Speaker 4: so high at the pump is that the price you
Speaker 4: pay currently is what your gas station knows it has
Speaker 4: to buy in the future. Right the gas, the gas
Speaker 4: you're filling in your car was paid last week with
Speaker 4: those prices. So if the future says, holy crap, how
Speaker 4: expensive is oil are going to be? How expensive is
Speaker 4: gasoline going to be? I don't know. That is why
Speaker 4: you see those prices jump immediately because They don't know
Speaker 4: when the next tanker shows up what it's going to cost,
Speaker 4: so they prepare for the worst case scenario because that's
Speaker 4: how small the margins on gasoline actually are. So it's
Speaker 4: a complicated business and war in the Middle East does
Speaker 4: not help. But like I said, hopefully this will be
Speaker 4: the last time we have to worry about this region
Speaker 4: ever again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the one of the major parts of
Speaker 2: the Trump platform was making America the dominant energy player
Speaker 2: across the world. I know that was Ei or he
Speaker 2: was making steps, taking steps to get to that goal.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're there yet, but at least the
Speaker 2: ball is rolling in that direction. With If America becomes
Speaker 2: the and I think America will become the dominant energy
Speaker 2: player in the world in terms of oil and in
Speaker 2: terms of energy production. How much of a factor is
Speaker 2: that going to be.
Speaker 5: Huge?
Speaker 4: Because if you control the oil, you control the world.
Speaker 4: And we need that. We need America to control the
Speaker 4: world and set the world agenda, set the stage for good.
Speaker 4: So I think that's absolutely essential. You know, one of
Speaker 4: the things that's very frustrating about all of this is
Speaker 4: for the last couple of years, we had the administration
Speaker 4: that was trying to set the agenda for renewables, wind
Speaker 4: and solar and crappy eeds and crappy you know, batteries
Speaker 4: and all that is controlled by China. And so here's
Speaker 4: the Trump administration saying, you know what, America can dominate
Speaker 4: the oil business, and then we will set the world stage.
Speaker 4: We will set the agenda. That explains what happened in Venezuela.
Speaker 4: It's explained what happened with the Panama Canal, It's explained
Speaker 4: what's happening in the stra of horn Mouse. If we
Speaker 4: can control the world's oil supply, we can control world peace, geostability,
Speaker 4: and that is a good thing. We also have to
Speaker 4: realize we don't have a lot of friends out there,
Speaker 4: and that's the most frustrating thing. As much as this
Speaker 4: is bad for the world's economy, there are huge oil
Speaker 4: and gas producers. Who are the ones really getting stuck
Speaker 4: with this? Saudi Arabia, Uae, Kuwait, Ama, Oman, right, the
Speaker 4: United Arab Emirates, Doha, all these places we talked about,
Speaker 4: and all these that exotic vacation. Let's what the hell
Speaker 4: are they doing to open the straits of horn Mouse? Right?
Speaker 4: Aren't these they're Arab brothers. Aren't these all there Islamic
Speaker 4: friends and you're like, well, no, one is Wahabi and
Speaker 4: one is Sheite and the other is Sunni, and you
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. But you know what, They're not doing
Speaker 4: a damn thing because they don't care. It shows you
Speaker 4: who we have to deal with in the world. Why
Speaker 4: is not? Why is do buy not petrified that their
Speaker 4: oil is not getting out? Because Daniel, let me let
Speaker 4: me stop you. Right there is the straight of horror moves.
Speaker 4: Is it open right now or not?
Speaker 2: I mean, do you know I read where we're going
Speaker 2: to have naval ships escorting vessels through there. I read
Speaker 2: over the weekend where there was a container ship that
Speaker 2: got through. I read that that there's a blockade that
Speaker 2: nothing is getting through. What's what's the real story on
Speaker 2: the street?
Speaker 4: Energy Secretary Chris Wright said, the very first tanker went
Speaker 4: through yesterday and that had a and it didn't even
Speaker 4: need a navy escort. This is not about the navy.
Speaker 4: This is not about them worrying they're getting blown up.
Speaker 4: This is about insurance. And this is where just the
Speaker 4: world gets very complicated. Everything has insurance, right, every vehicle,
Speaker 4: every vessel, the world's largest insurers right now are saying
Speaker 4: I am not insuring your cargo ship, your five hundred
Speaker 4: million dollar cargo ship if you go through that area.
Speaker 4: So you're sitting there, you're waiting for someone to underwrite
Speaker 4: your insurance. And so the captain has just anchored. Now
Speaker 4: the American government has come in and said, we will
Speaker 4: provide your insurance and therefore you can go. I think
Speaker 4: if they had the insurance they would go. So why
Speaker 4: don't the insurers want it? Well, because the insurers don't
Speaker 4: like Donald Trump. The insurers are Lloyd's of London. There
Speaker 4: are a bunch of of of Commy Pinkos who were
Speaker 4: based in London right there. There are a bunch of greenies.
Speaker 4: They hate the oil and gas industry. There's a lot
Speaker 4: going on right now of why we are on the
Speaker 4: pickle we're in, and it is not because we killed
Speaker 4: one of the most evil men in creation, the Ayatola.
Speaker 4: It's because there's a lot of people who don't want
Speaker 4: to see America succeed, because they don't want America to
Speaker 4: control the oil and gas of the world. They want
Speaker 4: a reset global order.
Speaker 2: Is this something that should have been anticipated ahead of
Speaker 2: time by Trump? And the administration.
Speaker 4: I this is not a criticism. I don't think Donald
Speaker 4: Trump has ever. I think Donald Trump is doesn't realize
Speaker 4: how evil the world actually is. How do I put
Speaker 4: any nicer? Remember in his first term, and he would
Speaker 4: appoint these people of his backstab him. People say, I
Speaker 4: think Donald Trump only and he's doing this for ten years, right,
Speaker 4: But he is not a career politician. He's a business guy.
Speaker 4: And business guys that's the joys of this hate each other.
Speaker 4: But when you make a deal, you make a deal
Speaker 4: on life goes on. I don't have to like you
Speaker 4: personal we have our invested interests in politics. That's not
Speaker 4: the same criteria. And maybe Donald Trump was stunned to
Speaker 4: see Keir Starmer, the British Prime Minister, saying no, we're
Speaker 4: not going to get We're not going to let you
Speaker 4: land your jets here. Not only that, but we've sold
Speaker 4: one of the most strategic bases in the Indian Ocean
Speaker 4: out from under you the eagle go to see it.
Speaker 4: Maybe he was stunned that the CEO of Lloyd's of
Speaker 4: London is like, you know what, I'm not going to
Speaker 4: ensure those cargo ships because I want to see the
Speaker 4: Americans suffer because I'm deeply worried about climate change or whatever. There.
Speaker 4: I think Donald Trump is always stunned at how awful
Speaker 4: and evil politics actually is. And that explains why we
Speaker 4: can't get the Save Act passed. That explains our thirty
Speaker 4: nine prillion dollar debt, it explains our open borders, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also starting to read some criticism of Trump
Speaker 2: for not having the Strategic Petroleum Reserve topped off. But
Speaker 2: I think people forget that it was Joe Biden who
Speaker 2: depleted the strategic Petroleum Reserve to the lowest level that
Speaker 2: we've had since I think before World War Two, and
Speaker 2: filling it up is not You don't just flip a
Speaker 2: switch and fill it up overnight and I thank you, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'll begin. You know, filling it up began back
Speaker 2: in January when they started a program of for replenishing
Speaker 2: the strategic petroleum reserves. So I think that that's what
Speaker 2: a criticism is a little uncalled for.
Speaker 4: It's uncalled for, and it's totally ignorant, and it's opportunistic.
Speaker 4: You know, Joe Biden drained some three hundred million barrels
Speaker 4: of oil from the reserves. Now the reserves were made
Speaker 4: that you can deplete very quickly because they are supposed
Speaker 4: to keep America afloat in the case of crisis. So
Speaker 4: you can drain four four and a half million barrels
Speaker 4: a day pretty darn easy. But imagine refilling it at
Speaker 4: that rate, right, Imagine if if we produced thirteen point
Speaker 4: six million barrels a day. What would happen to oil
Speaker 4: prices if two hundred thousand barrels a day went into
Speaker 4: the reserve, Well, oil prices would jump through the roof
Speaker 4: because that's a huge percentage of supply that is going
Speaker 4: towards the reserves, right, And two hundred thousand barrels a
Speaker 4: day to replenish three hundred million, we're talking about a very,
Speaker 4: very long process. So maybe we're doing, you know, fifty
Speaker 4: thousand barrels a day, enough to make an impact on
Speaker 4: the supply, but not enough dwindled supply to increase the price. Right,
Speaker 4: So what's that calculation? All this goes back to what
Speaker 4: you said, it was Joe Biden who did this. So
Speaker 4: once again, like the border, like Obamacare, like the strategic
Speaker 4: petroleum reserve, like the state of our military, will you
Speaker 4: give democrats power, they will do everything they can to
Speaker 4: destroy your once great institutions, and then you inherit a
Speaker 4: piece of dog crap, and then the voters or the
Speaker 4: media is like, well, I am surprised, Dan Carroll hasn't
Speaker 4: fixed this yet. You know what, It's been four d
Speaker 4: and I'm starting to get angry. Four years Joe Biden
Speaker 4: had untethered control of this industry and people. Now in
Speaker 4: thirteen months, Rolfe Come hasn't fixed it yet. F you, buddy.
Speaker 4: That's why he hasn't fixed it because you guys did this.
Speaker 4: And you have Shreed Brown, who's trying to run for office.
Speaker 4: Who's the guy trying to run against Shareed Brown? Crucify that,
Speaker 4: sob on these points, where were you when Joe Biden
Speaker 4: dwindled the Strategic Petroleum Reserve? Shared Brown? You want your
Speaker 4: Senate feedback? What the hell did you do to get
Speaker 4: our oil and gas pipelines operating to protect America's infrastructure?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: And now you want to come back to the Senate
Speaker 4: and on what principles? On what grounds we don't have
Speaker 4: enough genital mutilation of children. You can't hate these people enough. Dan.
Speaker 4: They have power and they destroy things, and then they
Speaker 4: have the balls to look at you and be like,
Speaker 4: I can't believe this is broken. How come you haven't
Speaker 4: fixed it yet? This is my absolute loathing for professional democrats,
Speaker 4: elected democrats. It's a Joe Biden and companies.
Speaker 2: It's an excellent point. And if what else I'm reading
Speaker 2: is true, the infrastructure doesn't even exist to refill the
Speaker 2: spr now. At the rate that we're talking, you can
Speaker 2: drain it a lot faster than you can fill it up,
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying here. We've got a few minutes
Speaker 2: left here, Daniel Turner. But I'm looking at Fox News
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: And I take a breather.
Speaker 2: I keep saying, I'm going to book you if I'm
Speaker 2: going to book you for an hour and a half
Speaker 2: segment one of these days, because we could fill that
Speaker 2: up quite easily. But I'm looking at Fox News right
Speaker 2: now and they're doing a report on what's happening in
Speaker 2: New York City. You had demonstrations over there on the weekend,
Speaker 2: and then you had some guys toss essentially IEDs into
Speaker 2: a demonstration that was happening there, and somehow Mandani is
Speaker 2: coming out and criticizing the people that I guess see
Speaker 2: he's criticizing the people that had the demonstration because that
Speaker 2: triggered the terrorists to do terrorists? Then now am I
Speaker 2: am I reading?
Speaker 4: Then it's like after nine to eleven when we said
Speaker 4: we have to worry about the backlash on our Muslim community,
Speaker 4: and you say, wow, I think we have to worry
Speaker 4: about the thousands of dead New Yorkers that we have.
Speaker 4: This is exactly what the left does. Right. A crazy
Speaker 4: Muslim terrorist throws an ied at a crowd and the
Speaker 4: mayor's response is, we have to wonder what happened to
Speaker 4: provoke that guy. This is moral equivalent equivocation. This is
Speaker 4: what Barack Obama does all the time, right. This is
Speaker 4: this is that idea that everyone is guilty, both sides
Speaker 4: are guilty, but the right is actually more guilt. This
Speaker 4: is Charlie Kirk got it right. If he just stopped
Speaker 4: going on college campuses and and and preaching his hate,
Speaker 4: as we say that, then then he wouldn't have gotten shot.
Speaker 4: So he actually he did this himself, right, This is
Speaker 4: this is the moral equivocation of the godless, gutless left.
Speaker 4: You know, hopefully Cash betel On the FBI can unravel
Speaker 4: this network. What I am fascinated in in this thing?
Speaker 4: Is what nineteen year old kid from Cincinnati is going
Speaker 4: to go to the Chicago Mayor's office to protest? Right,
Speaker 4: You're like, what, I don't even know. I grew up
Speaker 4: in New York City. I've never been to Gracie Manchin.
Speaker 4: How did this kid from Bucks County, Pennsylvania show up
Speaker 4: in New York City? Oh? You know why? Because there
Speaker 4: is a Muslim network to protect the Muslim mayor and
Speaker 4: to fight for the Muslim mayor. And that network has
Speaker 4: to be unraveled. They've got to be hung, hanged in
Speaker 4: the town square and the rest of them have to
Speaker 4: be deported.
Speaker 2: White supremacy, White supremacy, Daniel Turner. It's out there all
Speaker 2: over the place. And thank god, these these clowns who
Speaker 2: threw this explosive device into this crowd were completely incompetent
Speaker 2: bomb makers. We'd be talking about an absolute massacre today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, in tragic that. You know, these
Speaker 4: kids are first generation Americans America. Let their parents come
Speaker 4: to this country. Go online and look at the photos
Speaker 4: of the FBI raising the house. It is some damn house.
Speaker 4: Mom and dad did well for the same And then
Speaker 4: who and what did what type of kids did they raise? Right?
Speaker 4: And that raises questions. I'm sorry about mom and dad,
Speaker 4: What the hell is going on there? You know, why
Speaker 4: did we allow you into this country if the children
Speaker 4: that you bore on our soil do this? Because I
Speaker 4: have grandparents that were born in a foreign country. But
Speaker 4: my parents also, you know, fought and and and protected
Speaker 4: this country at a very different level of immigration that
Speaker 4: we have. So a lot has to be in question
Speaker 4: about you know, this is this, this unravels the well
Speaker 4: it's legal versus illegal immigration. We we have a problem
Speaker 4: with who we allow into this country and assimilation and
Speaker 4: I am tired of unassimilated people posing a threat for
Speaker 4: me and my family.
Speaker 2: All right, well, Daniel Turner will have to leave it there.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you carving out time between all your television hits.
Speaker 2: You're a very busy guy. Keep up the great work,
Speaker 2: my friend, and we'll be talking again before too long.
Speaker 4: God blessed Dan. Thank you.
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Daniel Turner. The website is
Speaker 2: Power of the Future, a lot of great stuff there.
Speaker 2: Always recommend you check it out. Ten fifty four Dan
Speaker 2: Carroll for scotslan on seven hundred WLW do you.
Speaker 1: Want to be an American idiot?
Speaker 2: Right back on the Big One seven hundred w L
Speaker 2: eleven eight, Dan Carroll got slown coming up at the
Speaker 2: bottom of the hour after the news. At the bottom
Speaker 2: of the hour, my buddy Jim Serger will be here.
Speaker 2: He'll be joining us on the phone. He's got a
Speaker 2: new book, count that Lance McAllister has written a little
Speaker 2: blurb for It's called Everybody Bunts, And so we will
Speaker 2: talk to Jim about that. In the meantime, phone lines
Speaker 2: are open five to one to three, seven four, nine, seven,
Speaker 2: eight hundred. The Big One another probe by a criminal
Speaker 2: probe by the FBI into suspected election irregularities, something I've
Speaker 2: talked about quite a bit, and we are told time
Speaker 2: and time and time again that, uh, the election of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty was completely above board, safest best election we've
Speaker 2: ever had. Sources spoke on condition of anonymity because of
Speaker 2: the secrecy of the grand jury probe. They are talking
Speaker 2: about FBI agents who are receiving gigabytes of electronic data
Speaker 2: from Maricopa County about a month after the bureau first
Speaker 2: disclosed an investigation into election irregularities by rating a warehouse
Speaker 2: near Atlanta seizing ballots from the twenty twenty election in
Speaker 2: Fulton County. So now they've got another one going on
Speaker 2: in Arizona. Subpoena comes five years after the Arizona State
Speaker 2: Senate conducted a lengthy investigation into the twenty twenty election
Speaker 2: and concluded there were significant irregularities. And again, there were
Speaker 2: irregularities in November of twenty twenty four at a warehouse
Speaker 2: in Arizona where blank and filled out absentee ballots were
Speaker 2: observed in the same location, according to the sources. So
Speaker 2: the FBI is looking into that in Arizona and we
Speaker 2: will see what comes of that. What else, what else?
Speaker 2: What else? Did you know that the federal government is shrinking.
Speaker 2: Three hundred and sixty thousand federal jobs have been shipped
Speaker 2: out of Washington. Workforce reduction that large cripples most organizations
Speaker 2: in the private sector. Losing that many positions triggers emergency meetings,
Speaker 2: halt production lines, sparks panic among executives. Washington, however, keeps
Speaker 2: moving along as if someone merely cleaned out a few
Speaker 2: old files out of a drawer. Of this piece in
Speaker 2: PJA media, the federal workforce shrank by three hundred eighty
Speaker 2: six thousand, eight hundred and twenty six positions during the
Speaker 2: first year of Trump's second term. Administration. Leaders framed the
Speaker 2: effort as a long overdue overhaul or overdue correction of
Speaker 2: decades of unchecked growth inside federal agencies. The work largely
Speaker 2: fell under the Department of Government Efficiency when Elon Musk
Speaker 2: served as the department's co chair and was tasked with
Speaker 2: identifying layers of bureaucracy that had quietly multiplied over many administrations.
Speaker 2: And so this was what was happening on a regular
Speaker 2: basis under the Biden administration was we kept having these
Speaker 2: job reports about all these jobs that were created, and
Speaker 2: Joe Biden loves to go around and talk about all
Speaker 2: these jobs he created and all the economic activity that
Speaker 2: was happening under his administration. Well, a huge chunk of
Speaker 2: those jobs were government jobs. The numbers behind the reduction
Speaker 2: reveal how large the bureaucracy had become. Roughly three hundred
Speaker 2: and seventeen thousand federal employees left government positions during twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five. About sixty eight thousand new workers entered federal
Speaker 2: service during the same period, departures far out pacing high
Speaker 2: across every major agency, Education, Housing, Treasury. The Trump administration
Speaker 2: effort to reduce staffing across agencies resulted in the loss
Speaker 2: of more than three hundred and seventeen thousand federal employees
Speaker 2: thirteen point seven percent decrease. At the same time, sixty
Speaker 2: eight thousand new federal employees joined the civil service. So
Speaker 2: has anyone noticed any difference when it comes to government services?
Speaker 2: Maybe you deal with the government. I fortunately, I don't
Speaker 2: think I do. And maybe I do, but I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think I deal with the government, the federal
Speaker 2: government on a regular basis. I know, I don't go
Speaker 2: to my mailbox looking for a government check or I
Speaker 2: guess it gets to direct deposited. I mean, I haven't
Speaker 2: done my taxes yet, so that'll be some interaction I
Speaker 2: have with the federal government when I do that. But
Speaker 2: I don't deal with the federal government on a regular basis.
Speaker 2: Maybe if you're involved with the VA or HUD or
Speaker 2: one of the other agencies on a regular basis, maybe
Speaker 2: you've noticed some difference, But I don't know. I really
Speaker 2: haven't seen it. A piece in the Inquiry Today talking
Speaker 2: about written by Gordon Whittmeyer talking about Latin American players
Speaker 2: on edge as ICE tactics intensify, and he goes on
Speaker 2: to talk about several Reds players and I guess players
Speaker 2: across Major League Baseball who are concerned for themselves and
Speaker 2: their families about ICE activities. And I read this piece
Speaker 2: and it's it's a little disingenuous.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: As President Trump stepped up immigration and force enters its
Speaker 2: second year, the violent images involving often masked immigration and
Speaker 2: custom enforcement agents have left a very specific, very public
Speaker 2: group of Latin Americans in the US bracing for what
Speaker 2: comes next. Well, why are those immigration and customs enforcement
Speaker 2: agents wearing masks? Because when they go out and do
Speaker 2: their jobs, there are those on the left who constantly
Speaker 2: seek to identify these people, constantly seek to get their
Speaker 2: identities out there on social media. They seek to put
Speaker 2: their addresses out there, if their phone numbers, if they
Speaker 2: can get it, they're family members. It's called doxing. We all,
Speaker 2: we've all heard of doxing. And they want to make
Speaker 2: the lives of these agents and absolute living hell for
Speaker 2: doing nothing more than a job they are sworn to do.
Speaker 2: This country gives you an opportunity to change your life
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Redstar Aua Halios Worrez said, now you feel pressured,
Speaker 2: you feel scared because you don't know what's going to
Speaker 2: happen if you're driving down the highway and somebody stops you,
Speaker 2: even if you're a citizen. Well, I've talked before on
Speaker 2: this show that if you are a citizen, if you
Speaker 2: are in the country legally, if you are not out
Speaker 2: committing crimes, then generally, genuinely you really don't have anything
Speaker 2: to fear.
Speaker 4: But it might.
Speaker 2: Might you be stopped, might you be asked some questions
Speaker 2: that might happen, And largely in the situations where it
Speaker 2: has happened, the individual, after answering a few questions is
Speaker 2: sent on their way. I don't think we've had very
Speaker 2: very few, and it is less than one percent of
Speaker 2: individuals who have been detained or arrested or held for
Speaker 2: a time, and then once a few questions are answered,
Speaker 2: they're free to go. And this whole notion that these
Speaker 2: mass men are coming in the middle of the night
Speaker 2: and scooping people up and sending them away and they
Speaker 2: are never seen or heard from again. That is the
Speaker 2: narrative that a lot of people want to get out
Speaker 2: there and want people to believe, but it is simply
Speaker 2: not true. A Major league players such as Suarez, who's
Speaker 2: from Venezuela, feel fear for their game, their families, their
Speaker 2: own safety at times. With the start of spring training
Speaker 2: across Florida in Arizona, hundreds of major and minor league
Speaker 2: players from other countries are back in the US to
Speaker 2: prepare for the season. Training camps kicked off weeks after
Speaker 2: US military action in Venezuela that overthrew Nicholas Maduro and
Speaker 2: the killings by federal agents of two US citizens in Minneapolis.
Speaker 2: The killing of two US citizens in Minneapolis. And so
Speaker 2: that sentence is right there, when when you read that
Speaker 2: and you see that printed that way, does that put
Speaker 2: that those two incidents in any sort of context whatsoever
Speaker 2: at all? It doesn't. Is that fair? Is that fair reporting?
Speaker 2: Is that? Is that a fair sentence too? I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, it happened, But why did it happen? Didn't
Speaker 2: we discuss those two incidents ad nauseum on this radio station.
Speaker 2: Didn't we have a national debate about that for days
Speaker 2: after these incidents happen, thoroughly dissecting, reviewing the video over
Speaker 2: and over and over again, and just to throw that
Speaker 2: in there, as if that is a factor of why
Speaker 2: players who are playing baseball from other countries who are
Speaker 2: in the United States now should fear this administration or
Speaker 2: fear ice to throw that in there just like that,
Speaker 2: And to my way of thinking, is is not very
Speaker 2: good reporting. Teams have addressed the issue in team meetings.
Speaker 2: Red's president Nick krawl on one of the first mornings
Speaker 2: after the full ostra players had arrived in Arizona, emphasizing
Speaker 2: vigilance and taking precautions as basic as always carrying identification,
Speaker 2: which to me sounds like a good idea. Last thing
Speaker 2: you want guys to do is be in compromising situations
Speaker 2: that could easily escalate into something it doesn't need to.
Speaker 2: That's another good idea. Be aware of your surroundings if
Speaker 2: there are agitators who are out and first of all,
Speaker 2: during all of spring training, during all of the baseball
Speaker 2: season last season, was there any of this going on?
Speaker 4: I know?
Speaker 2: He writes. Twice last year, Ice and Customs and Border
Speaker 2: Patrol agents showed up at Dodger Stadium once in June
Speaker 2: and the day after the Dodgers World Series parade in November.
Speaker 2: Dodgers employees denied access to its parking lots. So were
Speaker 2: these ICE agents there to harass the players, wouldn't they
Speaker 2: have been able to do that quite easily in Arizona
Speaker 2: or in Florida. You know where they're going to be,
Speaker 2: you know when they're going to be there, if you
Speaker 2: wanted to round the And do we have any reason
Speaker 2: to suspect at all that anyone playing Major League Baseball
Speaker 2: who is from another country is in this country illegally?
Speaker 3: Do we?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, if this is true, shouldn't
Speaker 2: we be seeing ICE agents all over the Dave? Where
Speaker 2: are they playing? The what is that? What it is
Speaker 2: that the World Baseball Classic they're playing that? They're playing
Speaker 2: that in Florida and Arizona. So if there was so
Speaker 2: much harassment going on, if there was, if this was
Speaker 2: such easy pickings for ICE agents and customs and border patrol,
Speaker 2: wouldn't they be all over the World Baseball Classic? I
Speaker 2: mean there's multiple teams here from other countries, you got it,
Speaker 2: probably entire rosters in some cases that are made up
Speaker 2: of players from other countries. If ICE was so hell
Speaker 2: bent on harassing people who didn't don't deserve to be
Speaker 2: harassed wouldn't they be there? Have we seen any as anyone?
Speaker 2: And look, maybe I missed it. I mean I look
Speaker 2: at stuff all the time. I would like to think
Speaker 2: that if there was, if this situation was going on,
Speaker 2: I would have seen some reporting on it. I haven't
Speaker 2: seen anything on it at all. The Dodgers, who won
Speaker 2: the past two World Series, have one of the most
Speaker 2: internationally diverse rosters in the league, the strongest Latino following
Speaker 2: among MLB fans, more than forty percent of Dodgers attendance
Speaker 2: and TV viewership as Latin American. Okay, well, that's great that,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's fantastic. First incident the stadium spurred
Speaker 2: by protests or spurred protests by activists, and later reportedly
Speaker 2: a reluctance by some fan to fans to attend games,
Speaker 2: at least in part over Dodgers' lack of more vocal
Speaker 2: resistance to the ice activities. As if I'm the Dodgers, No,
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't think of any Major League I
Speaker 2: can't think of any organization, whether it's baseball, private business,
Speaker 2: that would want this type of attention brought to what
Speaker 2: it is you're doing. So do you want ice agents there.
Speaker 2: Do you want to have demonstrations people marching around? Do
Speaker 2: you want to have confrontations like we saw in Minneapolis.
Speaker 2: I can't think of any entity that wants something like that.
Speaker 2: So this is a piece that goes on and on
Speaker 2: and on, and I just think it's kind of filled
Speaker 2: with sort of misleading statements, obviously incomplete information. Is it
Speaker 2: an issue? I would I have no doubt that there
Speaker 2: are Major League Baseball players there who are concerned for
Speaker 2: themselves and their families and the reality of the world
Speaker 2: that we live in today. Are these fears a little
Speaker 2: bit unfounded? Are they hyped up a little bit in
Speaker 2: this piece? And I think so, But you have to
Speaker 2: look at what's really going on. And once the demonstration
Speaker 2: stopped in Minneapolis, unded up all kinds of bad ombrees
Speaker 2: got him out of there, and we don't see the
Speaker 2: demonstrations anymore. Although the chaos is happening in New York
Speaker 2: City now because you had some want to be terrorists
Speaker 2: who thankfully are not very good at building bombs try
Speaker 2: and call some mass chaos there earlier this week or
Speaker 2: over the weekend. I mean, we got to get to
Speaker 2: a break and after the news here at the bottom
Speaker 2: of the hour, and Jim Suger is going to be
Speaker 2: here and talk about his new book. It's called Everybody
Speaker 2: Bunts and Lance mccallister's had a look at it, so
Speaker 2: good for him. But Jim Seuger is always an interesting conversation,
Speaker 2: and I hope you can stick around for that. Dan
Speaker 2: Carroll for Scott's Loan seven hundred WLW seven hundred WLW
Speaker 2: eleven thirty seven, coming down the home stretch. Dan Carroll
Speaker 2: in for the Scott's Loan and always great to have on.
Speaker 2: My next guest, local guy graduated from UC spend time,
Speaker 2: spent time in the navy? Is that right? My buddy
Speaker 2: Jim Serger is here, and Jim, how are you doing today?
Speaker 5: Good morning, Dan, baseball is here.
Speaker 2: I know you love baseball season and congratulations. Book number
Speaker 2: ten is out and available, and I think I called
Speaker 2: it Everybody Bunts earlier, but the title is actually everyone Bunce.
Speaker 2: And you even got a nice little blurb on there
Speaker 2: from Lance McAllister. How about that? How much did that get?
Speaker 2: Lance charges as a high price for that sort of thing,
Speaker 2: doesn't he yes, sir, yes.
Speaker 5: Sir, high price. Actually he got a nice book and
Speaker 5: it was really cool Lance to do that.
Speaker 7: I mean, Lance got a sneak peek of that book
Speaker 7: probably gosh, seven months ago now, So it's special to
Speaker 7: have him somebody you know, that grew up here in
Speaker 7: some of the states where I grew up as a
Speaker 7: young man, and you know, he always talks about baseball
Speaker 7: cards and tradition to baseball and how it.
Speaker 5: Impacts your life and everything.
Speaker 7: And have him do a bourg and then I used
Speaker 7: to ride our bikes all around the place of Simon
Speaker 7: and Anderson mcnick Turpin, I mean everything. So it was
Speaker 7: really cool, really cool to have him do a bourb
Speaker 7: on the book.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, yeah, you always this is a fiction book,
Speaker 2: but you always you always have a lot of your
Speaker 2: own life experiences wrapped into just about everything that you do, Yes.
Speaker 5: Sir, Yes, sir. This is a very fun book to create.
Speaker 7: And two reasons why the book came to Fruition was
Speaker 7: one of my good friends.
Speaker 5: Barry Martin.
Speaker 7: His father was a terrific baseball coach for Midland and
Speaker 7: as a young kid playing with records and he was
Speaker 7: also the head coach for a few years in.
Speaker 5: Anderson High School.
Speaker 7: Well, mister Martin played college basketball at Kentucky Wesleyan. He
Speaker 7: didn't play college baseball, he played college basketball.
Speaker 5: So I was like, this guy's got some great leadership skills.
Speaker 7: And then I got a little bit older and that mcnick,
Speaker 7: Buddy Bell and Ron Oster from the Redsvours coach JV
Speaker 7: basketball at mcnick, Well, they understand leadership, they understand skills,
Speaker 7: they understand the mindset of a coach on and off
Speaker 7: the field.
Speaker 5: So that's how I came up with everyone. But it's
Speaker 5: about a.
Speaker 7: High school baseball coach who does have the background as
Speaker 7: a collegiate basketball coach.
Speaker 5: But in high school you don't have to be the
Speaker 5: best of the best to be a great coach.
Speaker 7: You have to understand the skills on and off the
Speaker 7: field as a manager and then a coach to be
Speaker 7: able to teach the young men how to play ball.
Speaker 7: You have to wear two hats on the field. So
Speaker 7: for about two years I followed Nick Nick Anderson Turkin.
Speaker 7: I saw more games X games playing those guys, and
Speaker 7: I just took notes, took notes of what fans were saying,
Speaker 7: parents were saying, coaches were doing, what the kids in
Speaker 7: the dugowns were doing.
Speaker 5: So they created this fictitious theory.
Speaker 7: And they tied in a lot of stuff that I
Speaker 7: played with that, so I had to put it all
Speaker 7: just like you said, you got to get it all
Speaker 7: in there.
Speaker 4: Dan.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I read this on the Amazon page where your book is,
Speaker 2: and you write this, just because you're a baseball coach
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you can teach. Just because you're a baseball
Speaker 2: manager doesn't mean you can coach. All it means in
Speaker 2: both cases is that you have the title. And so
Speaker 2: that's not only true in the world of baseball, but
Speaker 2: it has I think a bigger meaning throughout the rest
Speaker 2: of really anything you do in life. You may have
Speaker 2: the title. But just because you have the title doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that you can carry out whatever that mission is.
Speaker 7: That's correct, that's correct. I always see it like this.
Speaker 7: Pete Rose could bunt a baseball. If he turned around
Speaker 7: blindfolded and they threw it at him ten feet away,
Speaker 7: Pete Rose would be able to.
Speaker 5: Lay that bunt down.
Speaker 7: Now, how does Pete Rose explain how to do that
Speaker 7: to somebody for the first time? And somebody like Pete
Speaker 7: Rose would take the time to explain it to him,
Speaker 7: and do us run it again.
Speaker 5: Let's run it again. Let's run it.
Speaker 7: Again, because I'm a firm believer as well as everybody
Speaker 7: out there, is what you do in practice represents what.
Speaker 5: Happens on the field.
Speaker 7: So if you're doing nothing but batting practice, swinging for
Speaker 7: the fences, well, how are you gonna back up the
Speaker 7: third basement as a picture? How are you gonna lay
Speaker 7: down a.
Speaker 5: Butnt you know? How are you gonna turn a single
Speaker 5: into a double? How are you gonna hit the cutoff?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 7: That's where everyone bunt comes into play. And to be
Speaker 7: a great manager and a coach at the same time,
Speaker 7: you have to be able to explain everything why you
Speaker 7: gotta do this, and just don't take it for granted
Speaker 7: that everybody understands. I have to lay down the bunch
Speaker 7: because a designated hitter can lay down a bunch, and
Speaker 7: a leadoff hitter can hit a home run. Wow, that's
Speaker 7: something special right there.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, Lance mcallis or put it in words
Speaker 2: like this, He says, this fictional story made up of
Speaker 2: various situations the author has seen firsthand cuts to the
Speaker 2: core of being a leader on and off the field.
Speaker 2: And that's what I liked about so many of the
Speaker 2: books that you've written, is that it's great storytelling, but
Speaker 2: that story always has a larger message for just out
Speaker 2: and for instance, I mean, you're not talking just about
Speaker 2: baseball here. You're talking about life and that part of
Speaker 2: life that everyone can experience whether or not you play baseball.
Speaker 2: And you do that, and you do that a lot,
Speaker 2: and that's what I liked about so many of your books.
Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate that, Dan, and leadership is so needed.
Speaker 7: It was needed when you were a young man, it
Speaker 7: was needed when my dad was a young man.
Speaker 5: Playing for UC Baseball.
Speaker 7: Leadership is a word that will never ever go away,
Speaker 7: and we need more of that presented down at the
Speaker 7: bottom line. The Little league baseball, the pee wee football,
Speaker 7: we need that in high school, we need it in college.
Speaker 7: Everybody is a line leader, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 7: Everybody's watching you. Everybody's watching it. They don't need to
Speaker 7: know your name, but they're watching you. They see what
Speaker 7: you do, They see what you do after whin, they
Speaker 7: see what you do after a loss. It's how you
Speaker 7: fix that stuff and make it part of your day
Speaker 7: to day operation every day on and off the field.
Speaker 2: Yes, certain, Yeah, I mean I spent the first hour
Speaker 2: of this show today talking about so many of the
Speaker 2: issues that we are dealing with here in Cincinnati and
Speaker 2: here in Hamilton County, and a lot of those issues
Speaker 2: could be dealt with in a meaningful way if there
Speaker 2: was strong leadership. And I think people, I think especially
Speaker 2: young people. I think young people crave leadership and they
Speaker 2: will they will gravitate towards that leadership, whether that leadership
Speaker 2: leads them in a positive direction or a negative direction.
Speaker 2: So it's a little bit of a double edged sword.
Speaker 2: But just the fact that you recognize or you you
Speaker 2: spell that out and you recognize that, and again I'll
Speaker 2: go back to young people craving leadership, but it's also
Speaker 2: I think I think people just in general gravitate towards leadership,
Speaker 2: and that leadership leads in a positive direction. It can
Speaker 2: it can be extremely beneficial for everyone involved.
Speaker 5: Yes, sure absolutely.
Speaker 7: I remember the first baseball team that I played on
Speaker 7: up there in Mount Washington in.
Speaker 5: The eighth grade.
Speaker 7: I was a good pitcher and the coach, Phil Wilhoyd said,
Speaker 7: I'm going to make you into a catcher, and that
Speaker 7: was the first practice and he threw me behind the plate.
Speaker 5: I got plowed over, I mean plowed.
Speaker 7: My back was against the backstop, and I said, I
Speaker 7: just got plowed over.
Speaker 5: And Phil said, Jimmy, that's going to be a part
Speaker 5: of life. You can't always just sit there and expect
Speaker 5: everything to you.
Speaker 7: Oh it's easy, it's easy, he said, Get up, gust off,
Speaker 7: get back into the catcher stance, and get.
Speaker 5: Ready to go.
Speaker 7: He said, what are you gonna do in twenty years
Speaker 7: when you fall down? You get let's go. And boy,
Speaker 7: he nailed us with those words. Right there, that's the
Speaker 7: solf off, get back up, You'll be fine.
Speaker 5: And it worked out fine. But I had never been
Speaker 5: plowed over as a catcher.
Speaker 2: Well, well, that's just it. I mean that, and that's it.
Speaker 2: But so many people that so many of us love sports,
Speaker 2: those of us who participated in sports, they teach those
Speaker 2: life lessons that will serve you well for the entire
Speaker 2: time you're drawing breath on this planet. And the other
Speaker 2: component of that, I think is is that coaches. The
Speaker 2: influence that a coach can have on the life of
Speaker 2: a young person, and even a person who's not young,
Speaker 2: I still think so, you know, I mean, I spent
Speaker 2: a lot of time with the great Jerryderger when I
Speaker 2: was at me. Nicholas high school and that and that
Speaker 2: guy influenced my life and I still think about him
Speaker 2: almost every single day and some of the some of
Speaker 2: the life lessons that he taught me back then when
Speaker 2: I when I was bumping around high school with a guy.
Speaker 5: Like that, Absolutely and that helped me get some ideas
Speaker 5: into this book.
Speaker 7: He said, Jimmy, the greatest gift that a player can
Speaker 7: give me is ten to fifteen or even a couple
Speaker 7: months later, when they call me up to say thank
Speaker 7: you or just.
Speaker 4: To say hi to me.
Speaker 7: He said, Then I knew I made an impact with
Speaker 7: them on and off the field, and.
Speaker 5: He nailed it. Yeah, he nailed it.
Speaker 7: I mean that's what every coach, leader, teacher, principal.
Speaker 5: Doesn't matter the title.
Speaker 7: When people reach back out to you years later, you
Speaker 7: impacted their lives.
Speaker 5: And in the moment, most young men and most young women.
Speaker 7: Think that person was being mean or called them out
Speaker 7: or being disrespectful to them in front of their peers.
Speaker 5: And then it isn't for four or five years later
Speaker 5: when they really realized, Wow, that person was actually rooting
Speaker 5: for me.
Speaker 7: They wanted me to do well, and that's why they
Speaker 7: helped me on the spot.
Speaker 5: And that's true. It's true of anything.
Speaker 7: I mean, the greatest coaches ever never tell you know
Speaker 7: or embarrass you in the moment when you're young or
Speaker 7: in high they say, hey.
Speaker 5: We're gonna correct it.
Speaker 7: We're gonna show you how to make it better, and
Speaker 7: we're gonna fix it. Not screaming yell at you on
Speaker 7: the spot. No, take the time afterwards and show them,
Speaker 7: show them, draw it out, use the chalkboard.
Speaker 2: That's true, Jim, Jim serga that that is great stuff.
Speaker 2: One of the other things that that you have done
Speaker 2: is you formed a great partnership with Tunnel to Towers
Speaker 2: and and you've written books about nine to eleven A
Speaker 2: Time to Alreayson. Remember, if I'm not mistaken, you've got
Speaker 2: three different volumes out now of nine to eleven A
Speaker 2: Time to Always Remember. And how's that going, How's how's
Speaker 2: your relationship going with Tunnel to Towers? And it must
Speaker 2: be extremely fulfilling for you to be involved in a
Speaker 2: project like that.
Speaker 5: Yes, there, it really is.
Speaker 7: You know that all came to fruition And it still
Speaker 7: happens today that I see the time nine to eleven
Speaker 7: at least four or five times a week.
Speaker 5: And that's what rum me to creating those three.
Speaker 7: Books for Tunnel to Towers and it still happens today.
Speaker 7: I could pick up the phone, I talk to them,
Speaker 7: I donate to them. All the books are donated to
Speaker 7: them from my royalties. I mean, we're helping out so
Speaker 7: many folks throughout the United States through Tunnel to Towers,
Speaker 7: from homeless veteran villages, to building a home a smart home,
Speaker 7: to giving away a mortgage free home to a fallen
Speaker 7: military or a first responder.
Speaker 5: It's just amazing what Tunnel to Towers does.
Speaker 7: I mean, hard to believe it's a twenty fifth anniversary
Speaker 7: of nine to eleven coming up here.
Speaker 4: In about seven.
Speaker 7: To me, it's just it'sn't breaking when people think about it,
Speaker 7: and it goes by so fast.
Speaker 5: Yet I can remember exactly where I was yesterday.
Speaker 7: And I'm sure if you were in New York and
Speaker 7: you live through that in Pennsylvania as well as the.
Speaker 5: Pentagon area, it never probably never goes away to him. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I remember that all the time.
Speaker 7: You know, the smell of pul riized concrete probably general
Speaker 7: it's a cent for a firefighter, something like smoke, what
Speaker 7: have you. And it's just crazy that you know twenty
Speaker 7: five years later, and so many of the firefighters now
Speaker 7: I think it's seven hundred and fifty nine maybe I'm
Speaker 7: misquote that have now perished because of the elements of
Speaker 7: fighting the ground zero. They've actually had more now die
Speaker 7: of illnesses after grounds than the.
Speaker 5: Three hundred and forty three that died that day.
Speaker 7: So that's over a thousand of them have perished because
Speaker 7: of nine to eleven. We always got to remember that,
Speaker 7: you know, just because it was yesterday. It can't be forgotten,
Speaker 7: just because it's like my uncle Chuck was in Pearl
Speaker 7: Harbor December seventh. That was a long time ago for me.
Speaker 7: I wasn't even born yet, but he was there and
Speaker 7: I remember him telling me that story when I was
Speaker 7: about seven or eighty old.
Speaker 5: You've never forgotten.
Speaker 2: It, yeah, absolutely, absolutely don't forget it. Can't forget, man.
Speaker 2: And I always wonder if we if we do enough
Speaker 2: in this country to to remember what happened that day
Speaker 2: and the consequences that we are still dealing with to
Speaker 2: this day and probably will be for as long as
Speaker 2: this country is around. So, Jim Serger, the book is
Speaker 2: every one bunce. You've got a blur on the back
Speaker 2: there by Lance Macow That alone is probably worth the
Speaker 2: the whatever.
Speaker 4: It is usual.
Speaker 2: You know, uh, if if people want to find out
Speaker 2: more about you and and everyone Bunce and where they
Speaker 2: can not just get this book, but any of your books,
Speaker 2: where do they do that?
Speaker 7: Sure, all books are available anywhere Barnes and you know
Speaker 7: Joseph Bath Jim Server dot com. So yes, sir, I
Speaker 7: appreciate that. But Lance was terrific, you know sports not right?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, look, if you've got an endorsement
Speaker 2: by Lance McAllister, it doesn't get much better than that.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna have clear skies today supposed to be
Speaker 2: Sonny in a high about seventy. So that's how you're
Speaker 2: gonna You're gonna go out, go out in the yard
Speaker 2: and have a toss today.
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I would have a toss today, but instead
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go out and ride the old bicycle. It's
Speaker 7: two nice of the day not to do that. Today's
Speaker 7: beautile bit all right, and enjoy go rants opening Gay
Speaker 7: almost two weeks away. So Bearcat baseball is underway. Musket
Speaker 7: baseball underway, and catch some high school baseball games.
Speaker 5: Everybody out there.
Speaker 2: Well, bearcats just had had a four game sweep over
Speaker 2: the weekend of Wichita State with a walk off home
Speaker 2: run yesterday. I saw I saw that on my on
Speaker 2: my feet. Jim, we got to run three o'clock, all right, Jim,
Speaker 2: we got to run. Keep up the great work, my friends.
Speaker 5: Have a great day, mister Carroll.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Thank you, and we will talk to
Speaker 2: you again before too long. But check it out. All
Speaker 2: you got to do is google Jim Siger Books or
Speaker 2: go to Amazon. The book is every one bunts and
Speaker 2: you will see it there. That is it for me.
Speaker 2: I got to get out of here. Bill Cunningham is
Speaker 2: coming up next, Big Dave the broadcast Sheriff, thank you
Speaker 2: for everything you did, and I'll be back again on
Speaker 2: I think it's Wednesday night. We're gonna do a little
Speaker 2: midweek crisis on Wednesday night, so I'm looking forward to
Speaker 2: that again. We'll see you next time on the Home
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