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Speaker 1: chick Ludwig seven hundred WLW. This is Sports Talk Shoeless.

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Speaker 1: Joe Wattdell is today's producer. We are going all the

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Speaker 1: way to six o'clock and that's when Dan Carroll takes

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Speaker 1: over these airwaves. How about those U see bear Cats?

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Speaker 1: It was masterpiece theater today in Lawrence, Kansas. The unranked

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Speaker 1: UC Bearcats play their finest game in the West Miller

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Speaker 1: era and they chop down the mighty A rank Kansas

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Speaker 1: Jayhawks eighty four to sixty eight at historic fall Allen

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Speaker 1: Field House. And what a scene it was the final

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Speaker 1: two minutes when Kansas fans are scattering for the exits

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Speaker 1: like rats fleeing a sinking ship. This was the kind

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Speaker 1: of performance you see fans have been waiting for all season.

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Speaker 1: Lights out on offense, stingy on defense, in the first

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Speaker 1: road win over a top ten team in only thirty

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Speaker 1: six years. This will always be special. Wes Miller said,

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Speaker 1: what makes it so special is these kids get the

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Speaker 1: feel of reward, and he also said he feels great

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Speaker 1: for the fans. How about Mustapha Chom pours in a

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Speaker 1: career high twenty eight points to go with eight rebounds,

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Speaker 1: and he leads four Bearcats in scoring in double figures.

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Speaker 1: U Se improves to fifteen and twelve overall, seven and

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Speaker 1: seven in the Big Twelve. And Boba Miller was just awesome.

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Speaker 1: He set the tone early and he winds up scoring

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Speaker 1: eighteen points to go with eight assists and seven rebounds.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Celestine what got into him? Unbelievable? He buries four

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Speaker 1: to three pointers and route to fourteen points and eight rebounds,

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Speaker 1: and Dayde Thomas adds ten points. U See shoots forty

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Speaker 1: eight percent from the floor, nails twelve of thirty one trays,

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Speaker 1: and you see a ten and a half point underdog. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: They carve out a thirty six to thirty four halftime

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Speaker 1: outscoring Kansas forty eight to thirty four. Four straight wins.

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Speaker 1: Now for the Bearcats, that's the current longest streak in

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Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. I've got my coffee, I've got my computer.

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Speaker 1: All I need is you. I've won three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 1: seven thousand, one eight hundred, the Big One. You just

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Speaker 1: got the feeling early on watching this game with Boba,

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Speaker 1: Miller doing man working some magic and keeping the score close.

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Speaker 1: And at one point in this game there were twelve

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Speaker 1: lead changes, eleven ties, and then the Bearcats pull away

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Speaker 1: the final really the final eight to ten minutes, it

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Speaker 1: was just a thing of beauty. They built as large

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Speaker 1: as a eighteen point lead. Are you kidding me? At

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Speaker 1: Kansas where the Jayhawks never ever lose, It's just absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear from you, and my question to

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Speaker 1: U SEE fans. With this four game winning streak, finally

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Speaker 1: winning on the road twice now and overcoming a deficit

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Speaker 1: with a nine to zero run, is this enough to

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Speaker 1: save Wes Miller's job? Suddenly? You see? With a fifteen

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Speaker 1: to twelve record, seven and seven now in the Big twelve,

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Speaker 1: they are a team under consideration for the NCAA Tournament.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear from you once again. At five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 1: seven thousand, one eight hundred, the Big one, unbelievable day

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Speaker 1: here at iHeartMedia Cincinnati. I feel like I'm Gosh in

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Speaker 1: the eye of the hurricane. We've got Xavier, We've got

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Speaker 1: FC Cincinnati. We had the Bearcats and the Reds are

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Speaker 1: playing baseball right now with their Cactus League opener in Goodyear, Arizona,

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Speaker 1: with the Reds ahead of the Guardians two to nothing

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Speaker 1: in the top of the third inning. Chase Burns two innings,

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Speaker 1: three walks, two strikeouts, no hits through two innings. That's

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Speaker 1: a great sign Wow. But how about the UC Bearcats.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking your calls when we return. This is Chick

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Speaker 1: Ludwig Sports Talk till six o'clock tonight on seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW three forty nine in the Queen City of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW. This is sports Talk until

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Speaker 1: six o'clock tonight. Dan Carroll will take you to nine

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Speaker 1: o'clock and then Donna d will take you to midnight.

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Speaker 1: And the UC Bearcats have taken me on a ride.

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Speaker 1: This was absolutely masterpiece theater today, eighty four to sixty eight,

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Speaker 1: chopping down Mighty Kansas at Historic Fall Gallen Field House.

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Speaker 1: Just the most complete, the most intense, the best they've

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Speaker 1: played all season, and really the signature win in West

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Speaker 1: Miller's five seasons as head coach of the Cincinnati Bearcats.

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Speaker 1: Let's go out to the phones. Eric is in Hamilton, Eric,

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Speaker 1: what do you think.

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Speaker 2: Up check?

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Speaker 3: Hey, I have aim into a Bearcats game since I

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Speaker 3: don't know I'm thirty seven. I went to the Iowa

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Speaker 2: But this win is huge. We have to have the top.

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Speaker 3: Ten defense in the country. I mean, if they play

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Speaker 1: You heard what Dan Horde and Terry Nelson was saying.

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Speaker 1: Late in the game, Kansas had no answer for the Bearcats,

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Speaker 1: like a one to three to one in a map

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Speaker 1: kind of set the tone and then Mustafa took over

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Speaker 1: and then Jalen Selles team busting the threes down the

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Speaker 1: stretch just incredible and getting the lead up to eighteen

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Speaker 1: eighty to sixty two. And how many times he hasn't

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Speaker 1: uc been able to finish and they just just crushed

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Speaker 1: them today. This was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Right, they played the second half, which there they'd never

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Speaker 3: finished the games and that's their biggest downfall. But today,

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Speaker 3: I mean I was rocking.

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Speaker 1: It was super absolutely a ten and a half point underdog.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely amazing. Hey, Eric, thanks for calling man, appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Mike in La Mike, Hello.

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Speaker 4: The Chickster don donaher reincarnated.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, how are you, Mike All.

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Speaker 2: I'm hanging in there.

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Speaker 4: Just finished up Chemo a little while ago, so I

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Speaker 4: missed the whole game. Chick give me the cliff notes.

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Speaker 1: Baby, Oh my goodness, you see played its most complete game.

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Speaker 1: Gustafa cham twenty eight points, a career high, Baba Miller eighteen,

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Speaker 1: four guys in double figures twelve of thirty one from

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Speaker 1: was like two for sixteen. They finished four for eighteen

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Speaker 1: from three point land and you see dominated in the

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Speaker 1: second half. They hung tough in the first half with

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Speaker 4: Was that defense?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it was, Yes, it was you see you

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Speaker 1: see is now they've won four to row. You want

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Speaker 1: to be playing your best basketball this time of year,

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Speaker 1: and they are four straight. Now they go Tuesday night

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Speaker 1: into Lubbock, Texas to play thirteenth ranked Texas Tech. It

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Speaker 1: is just the big twelve is just a monster.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we just take them when you can get them, right.

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Speaker 1: Tick, absolute, absolutely the Uh.

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Speaker 4: The other thing I wanted to ask you about is

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Speaker 4: now if they do you think they got one? Well,

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Speaker 4: I know it's hard to predict what you think once

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Speaker 4: they start that big twelve tournament, that they could go

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Speaker 1: I absolutely do. I wouldn't want to be playing UC

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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, they'll have a lower seed, but hey

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Speaker 1: they're seven and seven, they're keep they keep climbing. Let's see,

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Speaker 1: let's see where it all winds up. So yep, thank you,

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Speaker 1: all right, thanks so much, Mike. I gotta run. Appreciate you. Uh,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Larry is in Redding. Hey Larry, you.

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Speaker 5: Just said, yeah, you just said answer my question. I

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Speaker 5: today would give them a shot another big.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you heard Dan Horde talking about it. They're

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Speaker 1: under you know, under consideration. Uh, with air quotes around

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Speaker 1: that this will get some attention and especially and especially

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Speaker 1: with this game being on national TV. The CBS crew incredible,

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Speaker 1: so they're gonna get a lot of a lot of eyes.

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Speaker 5: I got Antenna TV and I never get to see UC.

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Speaker 5: You told me they were all the day on the CBS,

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Speaker 5: and I've missed it.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep they were, Yes sir, National, Yes ahead for UC.

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Speaker 6: I hope they make it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all right, appreciate it. Thank you. And James

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Speaker 1: in Dayton, Hi, James, my friend. Fantastic great to hear,

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Speaker 1: great to hear from you.

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Speaker 7: So a couple of thoughts. One, I mean, yes, you

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Speaker 1: Save his job.

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Speaker 7: I definitely believe it will. There's no question. I mean,

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Speaker 7: And certainly if they go on any type of run,

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Speaker 7: I mean winning in Lubbock and then making creating some

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Speaker 7: damage in the tournament, the conference tournament, his job is

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Speaker 7: definitely safe if he keeps winning, no question.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And he's come.

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Speaker 4: A long way.

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Speaker 7: Remember remember when he was in the hallway and those

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Speaker 7: students were yelling at him, and I mean, I thought,

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Speaker 7: for sure he's gone and and and he's doing well.

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Speaker 7: So let me put you on a spot ready, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: you see at Millot Hall?

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Speaker 1: Who wins one more time?

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Speaker 7: On that?

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Speaker 1: James, You're ass.

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Speaker 7: Just Cincinnati at Miami at Millot Hall.

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Speaker 1: I watched Miami last night. It's a it's a thing

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Speaker 1: of beauty to watch them move hm the way they pass,

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Speaker 1: the way they shoot the basketball, it's just amazing. They're

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Speaker 1: going to win a game in the NCAA Tournament. I'll

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Speaker 1: make that prediction.

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Speaker 7: But if you're a betting man, if you're betting man

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Speaker 7: making positions, if it was UC at Oxford, who would

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Speaker 7: you who would you take?

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Speaker 1: Just straight up Miami?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, I would, Oh my gosh, I would. Athletically,

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Speaker 7: So I mean, who is mine playing? They play Moler

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Speaker 7: and Princeton.

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Speaker 1: I mean come on, yeah, yeah, Hey, winning on the

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Speaker 1: road is tough anywhere. You see that in the Horizon League.

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Speaker 1: You see it with all the mid majors. For them

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Speaker 1: to go twenty seven and oh was incredible. But that's uh, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're dreaming here. So I just threw that out.

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Speaker 7: There for a more question to put you in the spot.

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Speaker 7: The more question to put you in the spot. Do

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Speaker 7: you think if you are the athletic director at UD

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Speaker 7: with grant'sco.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be tough for him to keep job.

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Speaker 1: But it all depends. You're on the tournament. Now that

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Speaker 1: UD is healthy, the Dayton Flyers are healthy and they're

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Speaker 1: playing some very good basketball right now. But they went

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Speaker 1: through a stretch there where they were getting, you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of real big time blowouts on the road.

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Speaker 1: But they're playing better. I didn't see today's score yet.

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Speaker 1: I hope they won. And it could save his job too,

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Speaker 1: So let's see what they do in the A ten tournament.

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Speaker 1: But Saint Louis is awfully tough and there's only going

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Speaker 1: to be a couple teams I think coming out of

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Speaker 1: the A ten. So always fun.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, James just won.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, always fun. Take care brother, all right, thank you,

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Speaker 1: And we've got Dan here in Cincinnati. Hi, Dan, Hey,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 1: Outstanding?

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Speaker 9: Hey, I'm calling because you've got a little more history

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Speaker 9: in day to day with the team. I've seen Miller

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Speaker 1: welcome once again to seven hundred WLW. And as a

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Speaker 1: UC graduate, you had to be loving the Bearcats chopping

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Speaker 10: What a dove A chick. Yes, I love it. It's

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Speaker 10: what a win.

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Speaker 2: I mean, huge win for Wes Miller, huge win for this.

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Speaker 1: It sure is. I'm walking on walking on air here

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a big thing for a variety

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Speaker 10: Obviously, the draft prospects and process is a huge part

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Speaker 10: I love that it's in Indianapolis. Indianapolis is the perfect

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Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt, And gosh, really looking forward to

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Speaker 10: But yeah, there's not going to be a reasonable price.

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Speaker 2: Like we're going to find a new home for you,

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Speaker 10: You don't know how they're going to play out, you

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Speaker 1: the Reds and the Bengals in twenty twenty six, James,

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be sweet?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure?

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Speaker 10: You know, I think I think the Reds. They have

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Speaker 10: the right manager, They've made some positive moves, they have

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Speaker 10: a really good hitching staff in rotation overall.

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, do I think we could see that?

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Speaker 2: We could?

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Speaker 10: And as far as the Bengals go, the reason why,

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Speaker 10: the easiest way to describe why they could turn things

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Speaker 10: around so quickly is because they have Joe Burrow. And

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Speaker 10: when you have that, when you're starting, then you have

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Speaker 10: Joe Burrowns and Mark Chas and T Higgins. Well, it's

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Speaker 10: a hell of a place to start, and you need

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Speaker 10: to add to your roster. You need to address those weaknesses.

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Speaker 10: But if you do, you can be right there. And

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Speaker 10: so sometimes things can bounce your way and it would

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Speaker 10: certainly be fun. I would say, for sure, the Reds

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Speaker 10: were not only a playoff team. They were a playoff

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Speaker 10: team last year, but we're in intention and people really

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Speaker 10: believed in them. I think there's a big difference between

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Speaker 10: being a playoff team like they were last year and

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Speaker 10: feeling like they're a true contender where the city's buzzing

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Speaker 10: about them, and I certainly hope that that's the.

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Speaker 2: Case this season.

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Speaker 1: James Rapine is with us and you can follow him

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at James Rapine. And you mentioned Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: love him is a quarterback and it's a person, and

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Speaker 1: it sounds like he still wants, I mean, wants to

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Speaker 1: be here and wants to lead the Bengals to a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and become the only player in NFL history

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Speaker 1: to win a National Championship, win the Heisman Trophy, be

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Speaker 1: the first overall draft pick, and to win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think I think Joe knows and Joseph Lebron,

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Speaker 10: James fans Right, Joe's a big Lebron. James fan Er

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Speaker 10: was growing up because he met Lebron. He's aware of

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Speaker 10: what Lebron winning that title for Cleveland meant to Cleveland.

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Speaker 10: And I think he's well aware of what it would

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Speaker 10: mean to win one here and it would mean everything, right,

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Speaker 10: it would mean everything, and he got really close.

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Speaker 2: And to be honest, looking back at.

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Speaker 10: That, they really there's been a lot of people this

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Speaker 10: offseason shit that have said, oh, well they've done it before,

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Speaker 10: or through total we've done it before.

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Speaker 2: Well, they haven't done it before. Bengals have never won.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they've never won a super Bowl. And I remind

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Speaker 10: people that because this off season they have to really

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Speaker 10: push it so they can be in position to do

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Speaker 10: something they've never done before. Because in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 10: they got really close and they were a player two away,

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Speaker 10: and yet they really didn't have business. When you look

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Speaker 10: at the talent on twenty one compared to twenty two,

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Speaker 10: they were far more talented than twenty two, and the

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Speaker 10: injury bug got them. And the best roster they've had

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Speaker 10: in the Joe Burrow era is that twenty two roster,

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Speaker 10: and so they need to get back to that and

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Speaker 10: then some if they're going to get over the hump.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, I think Joe Burrow is he's watching what

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Speaker 10: they do. I don't think he wants out or anything

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Speaker 10: like that right now, but they're going to have to

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Speaker 10: build around him and put him back in that position

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Speaker 10: where he can go and make history and feel like

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Speaker 10: he has a real chance to win a Super Bowl

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Speaker 10: because I'm not sure he's felt that way health or

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Speaker 10: not over the past couple of seasons.

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Speaker 1: And another thing we'll probably see this during this offseason

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Speaker 1: extensions for some very key players. I'm looking at Chase

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Speaker 1: Brown and others.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the Chase Brown one's interesting

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Speaker 10: because of his position. You know, do you go that

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Speaker 10: route with all the money that you've already invested in

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Speaker 10: your offense? And maybe they do, maybe they don't. I

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Speaker 10: think DJ Turner and Daxel are two guys you certainly

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Speaker 10: want to invest in because you don't want to create

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Speaker 10: more holes in those spots.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, they have some guys that have earned it.

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Speaker 10: Miles Murphy that fifth year option, I would expect them

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Speaker 10: to pick that up, and so we'll see. But yeah,

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Speaker 10: I think. I think those are some of the bigger

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Speaker 10: things in the house that they're going to have to

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Speaker 10: handle over the next few months.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know Orlando Brown entering his final year. I

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Speaker 1: would imagine that they probably will look to extend him,

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Speaker 1: you know, but.

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Speaker 2: I would. You know, there's a lot of people talking

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Speaker 2: about that. You mentioned tackle earlier.

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Speaker 1: I would.

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Speaker 2: I would try to get him under contract for another

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Speaker 2: year or two.

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Speaker 10: And he's a locker room leader every game last year

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Speaker 10: was a really solid left tackle and those are hard

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Speaker 10: to find.

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Speaker 2: Those are really hard to find. Remember when Andrew Whitworth.

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Speaker 10: Left how hard it was for the Bengals to finally

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Speaker 10: find a guy. It took years and years and years

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Speaker 10: and Jonah was okay, but Orlando's better.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I would.

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Speaker 10: I would certainly try to extend him if you can

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Speaker 10: get him on a reasonable contract. And I think if

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Speaker 10: they want to, he certainly would be open to staying

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Speaker 10: in Cincinnati and calling Cincinnati home for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 1: I've been enjoying listening to the podcast with Ryan Fitzmagic

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick and Andrew Whitworth, and they're singing the praises of

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Speaker 1: Bengal fans and just how how loyal and intense they

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Speaker 1: are in mandate. They were praising them for many many

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Speaker 1: minutes on a recent podcast.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, for sure, and it's what it's true, you know.

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Speaker 10: I think Bengals fans are extremely loyal and you're right

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Speaker 10: hungry and they want a winner. And another reason when

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Speaker 10: you have a Joe Burrow and the Jamar Chase to

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Speaker 10: go in and and.

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Speaker 2: Put your chips in. And if, by the way, if

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Speaker 2: the Bengals put their chips in.

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Speaker 10: And really push it and it doesn't work, I'm not

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Speaker 10: sure anyone's gonna blame them if they put half their

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Speaker 10: chips in and hold the other half for a rainy day.

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Speaker 10: And I don't just mean money, I mean moves in

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Speaker 10: aggressive moves. I think I think people are going to

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Speaker 10: look at them side eyed, and so we'll see which

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Speaker 10: which route they choose to go this offseason.

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Speaker 1: And when you look at the division, it's there for

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Speaker 1: the taking. And I agree with what Lance has said.

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Speaker 1: I'd want to be with the Bengals in this division

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean they have the best quarterback in the division.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 10: I some may say Lamar, I think the Ravens would

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Speaker 10: gladly take a healthy Joe Burrow over Lamar and they

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Speaker 10: both had injury issues, so you can't go and wear another.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's where it starts.

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Speaker 10: And anytime you win this division, you're going to have

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Speaker 10: a Last year was an odd year. The Bengals were down,

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Speaker 10: the Ravens were down.

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Speaker 2: The Browns.

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Speaker 10: We'll see what they figure out quarterback wise. But yeah,

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Speaker 10: it's three teams that I think are going to certainly

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Speaker 10: be in the mix. The Steelers wouldn't shock me at all.

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Speaker 10: They bring back Aaron Rodgers or go out and get

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Speaker 10: on the leak Willis or someone like that. That's a

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Speaker 10: competent player.

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Speaker 1: James, really appreciate your time, all the best.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You can follow James man. Check him out on YouTube

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals Talk. It's a it's a it's it's a blast,

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Speaker 1: uh watching your career blossom, James. Fantastic stuff. And I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: You're the man. Chick appreciate you having me up too.

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Speaker 1: eight one and be listening. The Reds and the Guardians

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Speaker 1: seventh inning out in Jeer, Arizona, with the Reds as

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Speaker 1: third inning when Edwin Arroyo doubled and then Will Benson

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Speaker 1: went deep on a fly ball to right field, scoring

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Speaker 1: Edwin aurorro ahead of him for a two to zer

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Speaker 1: in Reds lead, and since then the Guardians tacked on

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Speaker 1: a run in the fourth, another in the sixth, and

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Speaker 1: we are in the top of the seventh inning. Two runs,

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Speaker 1: three hits, no airs for the Reds, two runs, four hits,

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Speaker 1: no errors for the Guardians. And just looking at the

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Speaker 1: pitching here for the Cincinnati Reds, Chase Burns started, went

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Speaker 1: two innings, three walks, two strikeouts, a zero point zero

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Speaker 1: rotation for the Reds. We've been talking uce basketball. An

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Speaker 1: incredible performance to a masterpiece theater by the Bearcats in

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Speaker 1: an eighty four to sixty eighth victory at number eight

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Speaker 1: Kansas at historic fog Allen Field House. Man that is

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Speaker 1: on my bucket list. I've been to Hinkel in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: home with the Butler Bulldogs, and Butler defeated Xavier today

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Speaker 1: eighty to seventy five. Xavier fell behind by nine team

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Speaker 1: at halftime forty seven to twenty eight, but then rallied

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Speaker 1: got close, but Butler was able to give him the

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Speaker 1: eighty to seventy five victory. Trey Carroll twenty four points

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Speaker 1: to lead the Musketeers and seven rebounds and four assists.

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Speaker 1: He had a complete game, jovon Melissovich with twenty four

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Speaker 1: a tough day here for Philip Borovichenen. He did have

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Speaker 1: ten rebounds, but he went one for seven from the floor,

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Speaker 1: fourteen overall, five and eleven in the Big East, and

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Speaker 1: Butler improves to fifteen and thirteen and they are now

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Speaker 1: the Bulldog are now six and eleven in the Big East.

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Speaker 1: As far as you see is concerned, man, the Bearcats

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Speaker 1: coming on strong. A ten and a half point underdog

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Speaker 1: today in they absolutely just dismantle a fantastic number eight

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Speaker 1: rank Kansas team. Mustapha cham twenty eight points, a career high,

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Speaker 1: and really the trendsetter early in this game was Bob A. Miller.

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Speaker 1: He had double digits really right out of the gate,

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Speaker 1: really setting the tone. He winds up finishing with eighteen points,

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Speaker 1: seven rebounds, eight assists. He did have five turnovers, but

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Speaker 1: he had two steals and just a phenomenal all around performance.

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Speaker 1: Gisel James with five points, day A Thomas with ten.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Celestine played thirty three minutes. He started today fourteen points,

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Speaker 1: of eight from three point range, including three down the stretch,

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Speaker 1: to absolutely put a nail in the coffin of the

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Speaker 1: Kansas Jayhawks. And I think I got this right listening

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Speaker 1: to Dan Horde and Terry Nelson that entering the game,

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Speaker 1: Kansas coach Bill self was two seventy seven and nine

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Speaker 1: against unranked opponents. Well, now he's two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: seven and ten and it's the first road win for

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Speaker 1: the Bearcats over a top ten team in thirty six years.

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Speaker 1: And now you see four straight wins that's the longest

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Speaker 1: current streak winning streak in the Big Twelve, fifteen and

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Speaker 1: twelve overall, seven and seven in the Big twelve. Kansas

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Speaker 1: Big twelve. And now you see, man, it doesn't get

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Speaker 1: any easier. Tuesday night, they're in Lubbock, Texas to face

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Speaker 1: the thirteenth ranked Texas Tech Red Raiders. Starting to really

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Speaker 1: get excited here with selection Sunday, just a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks away for March Mania. Can't wait. But how about

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Speaker 1: the Bearcats? You want to chime in? Hey, I've got

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Speaker 1: my coffee, I've got my computer. All I need is

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Speaker 1: you at five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand,

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Speaker 1: one eight hundred the Big One. And I want to

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Speaker 1: give a couple of shout outs here today. Steve and

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Speaker 1: Athens a loyal listener on Saturdays an umpire up in

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Speaker 1: the New Concord area with that association, Steven Athens, man

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you being a chick magnet. Along with Dennis

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Speaker 1: in Mount Healthy loyal listener and my man up in Lebanon, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: He's on the maintenance staff of Lebanon High School. Man

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Speaker 1: longtime friend longtime listener Jim Morgan. So, Jim, if you're listening, Man,

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Speaker 1: really really appreciate you and your staff and all the

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Speaker 1: great work you do for the Lebanon Warriors. Fantastic. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're going to take a break. We'll come back. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk some Rads and Bengals with the combine getting ready

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Speaker 1: to start, and of course you see and Xavier. Man,

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Speaker 1: We're wide open. I feel like I'm in the eye

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Speaker 1: of the hurricane with so much going on. This place

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Speaker 1: is jumping today. iHeartMedia Cincinnati, and you're listening to Sports

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Speaker 1: Talk with your host, Chick Ludwig on seven HUNDREDW four

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Speaker 1: point fifty two in the Queen City. Chick Ludwig, seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW. This is sports Talk. Thank you to everyone

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Speaker 1: that's tuning in locally and nationally and internationally on the

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app. Man, I appreciate all the loyal listeners

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Speaker 1: and all the Chick Magnets out there. Trey Hendrickson, no

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Speaker 1: doubt is the greatest free agent signing in Bengals history.

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Speaker 1: The dude has been a sack master since he showed

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Speaker 1: up here from the New Orleans Saints. Last year was

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Speaker 1: a problem. Only seven games got hurt with a variety

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Speaker 1: of injuries, and he basically fleees the club for twenty

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Speaker 1: nine million dollars. He was going to make sixteen and

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Speaker 1: he was holding out, and they basically had to give

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Speaker 1: him more to bring that price tag up to what

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Speaker 1: some of the other high highest paid defensive ends and

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Speaker 1: pass rushers were earning, like TJ. Watt of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: But he got injured, only played seven games. I was

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Speaker 1: thinking that when the season ended, he's gone. That was

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Speaker 1: my first Yeah, you only played seven games. He turns

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Speaker 1: what thirty, he'll be thirty two in December, and he

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Speaker 1: had an injury riddled season. Do you put the franchise

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Speaker 1: tag on him? For thirty point two million? That's what

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Speaker 1: he'll be guaranteed if he gets the franchise tag. And

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Speaker 1: you heard James Rapine talk that he's confident that they

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Speaker 1: can flip him, that they can, you know, sign and

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Speaker 1: then trade him what for a draft pick for an

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Speaker 1: additional player? Hopefully I'd want I'd want some more for

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Speaker 1: his services. If that would happen, I'd be all for it.

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Speaker 1: It's just to me, the Bengals have bent over backward

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Speaker 1: in their attempt to make Hendrickson happy. Over the years,

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Speaker 1: they basically to me acquiesced at every turn, and I

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Speaker 1: just think it's time to part ways. Let him chase

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Speaker 1: another big payday elsewhere. We'll see if the Bengals franchise

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Speaker 1: tagging and something else has been bothered me. Since the

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Speaker 1: Reds have reported to spring training, Sal Stewart now he's

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Speaker 1: he played second base today. He started at second base,

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Speaker 1: but he's been working out at first base for the

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Speaker 1: Reds and a u Haanio Suarez the first player on

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Speaker 1: the field every day at spring training. He's also been

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Speaker 1: practicing at first base, although he played third today against

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Speaker 1: the Guardians in the Cactus League opener. I just wonder

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Speaker 1: what's happened to my favorite player, Spencer Steer and why

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Speaker 1: the Reds have kicked him to the curb. Back in October,

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Speaker 1: Steer was named the finalist for the Rawlings Gold Glove

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Speaker 1: awarded first base. But I'm told and I'm reading that

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Speaker 1: he needs to move in order to get Sal's bad

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Speaker 1: in the lineup. You don't want to make Sal a

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Speaker 1: designated hitter, and I can agree with that, and if

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Speaker 1: that's the case, then Steer better be my left fielder.

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Speaker 1: I just glove him so much because he's a grinder.

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Speaker 1: He's lunch pale, hard hat, head down, soft spoken, never

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Speaker 1: complains eight hours work for eight hours pay. And because

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Speaker 1: he can play first, second, third, in left field, basically anywhere.

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Speaker 1: He's a victim of his own versatility. The Reds need

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Speaker 1: a guy like Spencer Steer. He's got my respect. I

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Speaker 1: hope he has the Reds respect. Let's go out to

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Speaker 1: the phones and welcome in Willie in Monroe, Willie.

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Speaker 2: Hey, chick, how's it going.

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Speaker 8: I totally one percent, one thousand percent agree with you.

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Speaker 8: I've been watching this all season or off season long.

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Speaker 8: I am so.

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Speaker 1: Disappointed with with what you see. Red's Bengal. Yeah, Spencer, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's my guy. Everybody loves Ellie and I do too,

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Speaker 1: but Spencer is my guy.

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Speaker 8: Oh, Spencer gold glove. Yeah, maybe he hit blow in

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Speaker 8: the first half of the season, but he puts the

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Speaker 8: bat on the ball. He plays hard every game. He

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Speaker 8: was playing with that shoulder injury for the first half

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Speaker 8: of the season.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he can't put him the left field.

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Speaker 1: Hav him hurt himself again? No, and well, I liked

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Speaker 1: what Chido Francona said. He wants the post April Spencer Steer,

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Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that's what we get. The beauty is,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of moving parts here. When Ellie needs

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00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: to sit down, McLean will go to short and it

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Speaker 1: looks like Sal Stewart can go to second, and then

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Speaker 1: first base will be open, and I would imagine that's

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Speaker 1: going to be Spencer Steer. So I see Steer at first,

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Speaker 1: I see him in left field. I just see him

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Speaker 1: in the lineup, and uh, I want to see him play.

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Speaker 1: He has to be there.

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Speaker 8: He has to be there, Yes, And first base is

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Speaker 8: his place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, first base is his place. I like it. I

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Speaker 1: like it. Willie in Monroe home with a hornets brother, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like it. You got it, man, all right? And

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Speaker 1: uh we got about and yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry. The other thing.

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Speaker 2: The other thing is, uh.

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Speaker 8: I don't want him playing the outfield.

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Speaker 1: For injury reasons.

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Speaker 8: I mean that's you know, he played half a season

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Speaker 8: and at the end of one and half season beginning

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Speaker 8: to one with a shoulder injury that he got while

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Speaker 8: he was in the outfield.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I just want him in the line up.

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Speaker 1: I want him healthy. And hey, TJ. Friedel In center field.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna need a break every once in a while. Gosh,

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Speaker 1: two years ago it was injury riddled. He did great

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Speaker 1: last year, but he wore down. So you've got Dame Myers,

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Speaker 1: You've got JJ Blade, you've got Spencer. Uh yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be interesting to see how this twenty

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Speaker 1: five or twenty six man team when they break camp,

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Speaker 1: who's gonna be alive? So, uh, that's what we're here

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Speaker 1: to find out. And the Reds are on seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW tomorrow and I know you'll be listening, and I've

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Speaker 1: got to run. It's five o'clock. And when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk more Reds Baseball with the voice of

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Speaker 1: the Dayton Dragons. He's the director of Broadcasting, Tom Nichols.

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Speaker 1: When we return on seven hundred WLW five oh eight

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Speaker 1: and the Queen City of Cincinnati, Chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: This is Sports Talk. Joe Wandell is today's producer. We're

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Speaker 1: going all the way to six o'clock and that's when

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Speaker 1: Dan Carroll takes over these airwaves. Well, let's continue the

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Speaker 1: Reds conversation with a great friend of the show. He

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Speaker 1: is the veteran director of media relations and broadcasting for

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Speaker 1: the Dayton Dragons, Minor League baseball team of the Cincinnati Reds,

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Speaker 1: and the Reds right now trail the Cleveland Guardians four

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Speaker 1: to two. The Guardians snapped a two all tie with

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Speaker 1: a couple of runs again against Hagen Danner, a pitcher

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Speaker 1: for the Reds, an original second round draft pick of

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Speaker 1: the Toronto Blue Jays back in twenty seventeen. Tom, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to seven hundred WLW. How are you can't wait for

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Speaker 1: the season to start?

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Speaker 6: Hey, chick? How you doing. It's been great to be

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Speaker 6: able to watch some Reds baseball today, and like you say,

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Speaker 6: he can't wait for the season. We've got an exciting

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Speaker 6: month ahead of us to see how this roster comes out.

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Speaker 6: You've maybe at least couple of spots probably still open,

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Speaker 6: maybe that last spot in the bullpen, see how that

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Speaker 6: fifth spot in the starting rotation works out. I think

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Speaker 6: Chase Burns is probably the guy to get it, and

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Speaker 6: maybe a spot on the bench as well. So maybe

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Speaker 6: maybe about three spots still open. We'll see how things go.

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Speaker 1: That's assuming no injuries, absolutely, and Burns had a good

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Speaker 1: day today, two innings, no hits. He did walk three,

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Speaker 1: but he struck out two, and he started for the

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Speaker 1: Red saying, I'm eager to have him get his first

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Speaker 1: win as a major league pitcher with all that talent.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was interesting last year. I think he was

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Speaker 6: in a good role for him. As you recall, Chick,

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Speaker 6: he came up in June. He actually started the season

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Speaker 6: with the Dragons, and by the end of June he

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Speaker 6: was already up in the major leagues. That was the

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Speaker 6: second year that we had had a pitcher start the

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Speaker 6: season with the Dayton Dragons and then finished the year

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Speaker 6: with the Reds. It had never happened before. Rhtt Louder

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Speaker 6: did it in twenty twenty four, and then Burns actually

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Speaker 6: did it again in twenty twenty five, and he was

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Speaker 6: there by the end of June. Of course, those two

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00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 6: guys both were in today's game. Louder looked good as well.

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Speaker 6: He gave up one run in two innings, but he

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Speaker 6: had four strikeouts and his stuff was good today coming back,

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Speaker 6: and then you had Agiar follow him, and both those

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Speaker 6: guys missing all of last year with injuries. So good

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Speaker 6: to see those guys out there, and that's that's always

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Speaker 6: one of the big things with spring, Trent is can

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Speaker 6: you get through it healthy? And you remember ship last year?

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Speaker 6: How many guys the red started on the disabled list

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Speaker 6: when the season started. Yes, they had about six or

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Speaker 6: seven I think when the season began on the injured list,

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Speaker 6: and most of those guys, not all, but most came

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Speaker 6: back and played.

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Speaker 1: They wound up getting eighty three wins, making the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: getting eliminated by the Los Angeles Dodgers. I still think

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Speaker 1: it counts for something to reach the playoffs. Even though

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Speaker 1: the Mets, you know, had that melt down, the Redgs

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00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: took advantage of it. Tom. One of my questions to

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Speaker 1: you is why do you think the national media is

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00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: really downplaying the Reds. I think they're better than last year,

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00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: but the national media is not real confident in this group.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because they're looking at

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00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 6: what teams did in the offseason to try to improve

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Speaker 6: their club. And the Reds added Suarez and they did

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Speaker 6: add three good relievers to the roster, which I think

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Speaker 6: will be helpful. But we talked about this the last

867
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 6: time you had me on the big improvement the Reds

868
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 6: are going to make, hopefully, if you look at their

869
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 6: roster from last year, and you look at their roster

870
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 6: right now. Of course many of the same players, but

871
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 6: you've got a number of guys who are capable of

872
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 6: being better players themselves. In other words, of Matt McLain,

873
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 6: who had a very poor season last year, coming off

874
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 6: an injury the year before cost him the whole season,

875
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 6: he's a capable hitter. He's a guy that could hit

876
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 6: to eighty to three hundred for you, in other words,

877
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 6: sixty seventy points higher that he hit last year with

878
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 6: some power. So noelvi Marte as an everyday player from

879
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 6: day one, capable. He's a very talented player, capable of

880
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 6: having a really strong year. Ellie, of course, hopefully healthy,

881
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 6: would be capable of improving on what he did. Tyler

882
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 6: Stevenson healthy, certainly capable of better numbers than last year.

883
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 6: Hunter Green hopefully more healthy than he was last season,

884
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 6: able to go out there and maybe get you one

885
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 6: hundred and sixty innings or so over the course of

886
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 6: the season. And you know, that's where the improvement really

887
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 6: comes from. As you've got talent, you just need to

888
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 6: see those players bring their game up a level. And

889
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 6: most of those guys, I just mentioned are guys you

890
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 6: could expect that they can do that.

891
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: No doubt, Hunter green Man big time chip on his shoulder,

892
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: feeling he was, you know, some disrespect over this gosh

893
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: from last year spilling over into the offseason here. But

894
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: if he's angry, to me, that's great news. He wants

895
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: to go out and really prove himself. And when you

896
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: look at his contract, man, it was obsolete before the

897
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 1: ink was dry. The Reds got a great deal and

898
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure Hunter is just on an absolute mission this year.

899
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 6: Hopefully again he can't stay healthy because he obviously has

900
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 6: the stuff. He's a guy that's gonna go out there

901
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 6: and touch one hundred miles an hour in most every start,

902
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 6: and Chase Burns is a similar type of guy. I

903
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 6: think you've got a starting rotation if they stay healthy.

904
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 6: And I know Lance has had this point a few times.

905
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 6: The last time they really had a starting five that

906
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 6: could stay healthy similar to this would be back around

907
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 6: two thousand and eleven twenty twelve, that group that was

908
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 6: together at that point. And you look at the five

909
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 6: that they've gotten and if there is an injury, i

910
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 6: think they've got louder capable of stepping in possibly Williamson.

911
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 6: Those guys capable of stepping in and making some starts,

912
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 6: and you don't lose too much there. But the starting

913
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 6: five basically that's together. All those guys are proven. Andrew

914
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 6: Rabbit picturing the All Star Game last year, hundred green, obviously,

915
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 6: if he's healthy, is proven. Nick medolo Is is another

916
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 6: guy that a former first round pick, tremendous talent, has

917
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 6: had a full season now with an era in the

918
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 6: low threes. Singer is a guy that's going to eat

919
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 6: up some innings for you. And then Burns has got

920
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 6: the best stuff of any any of them. The one

921
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 6: point I like to talk about with Burns is the

922
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 6: guy who throws one hundred miles an hour and his

923
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 6: fastball is not even his best pitch. I've said that before.

924
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 6: Slider is just unhittable, especially for right hand hitters. So

925
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 6: that's a really good starting rotation. They've added to the bullpen,

926
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 6: and they've added three veteran relievers that are capable is

927
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 6: middle to set up guys. You've got Santion back for

928
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 6: the eighth inning, You've got gone for the ninth inning.

929
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 6: Wouldn't surprise me if Santion didn't get more chances in

930
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 6: the ninth this year, but we'll see how that goes.

931
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: That's right. He was a monster last year. Talk about

932
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: a workhorse, and you just hope that arm is not

933
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: falling off. But he seems everything we hear is he's

934
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: healthy and ready to go. And you've got Graham Ashcraft,

935
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, as a setup guy, seems to fall into

936
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: that category, and he seems to be comfortable with that.

937
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: And you're right, adding the two lefties and Caleb Ferguson

938
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: and brock Burke, and then you add a a Pierce Johnson.

939
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, the last two spots in that bullpen man,

940
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: Connor Phillips is there. I haven't lost faith in Sam

941
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: Maull yet, but gosh, Louis May big sugar with the

942
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: Zach Maxwell and others. So it also starts with pitching,

943
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: and they've got it.

944
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, sorry for interrupt you there. I really like Phillips.

945
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 6: I've always liked Phillips. They got him in a deal

946
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 6: with Seattle that sent Winker and Slarez to the Mariners,

947
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 6: and if you remember, he was the player to be

948
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 6: named later in that deal, but he was really the

949
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 6: key to the trade. And he's got elite quality stuff.

950
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 6: Throws one hundred x slider and better as a reliever,

951
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 6: maybe because his third pitch isn't as good and he's

952
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 6: only as a reliever only going to see a hitter

953
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 6: one time per night, doesn't necessarily need that third pitch

954
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 6: as much. I think he's on the staff, so it

955
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 6: does leave that one spot open. The bullten that you

956
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 6: just touched on, and some of those names you mentioned

957
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 6: will be competing Luis may Zach Maxwell, Sam Mall or

958
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 6: it could go to a more of a hybrid type

959
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 6: of guy who would be a long man, sort of

960
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 6: like Martinez was used last year. This could be a

961
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 6: Williamson or even an Agi. Are a guy that can

962
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 6: give you multiple innings and then if you have to

963
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 6: have a guy make a spot start, he's there for

964
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 6: you and do that. It could go to somebody like that.

965
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 6: We'll see how it goes whether they like him Maxwell.

966
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 6: I mean Maxwell was on the team for the playoff

967
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 6: roster I think last year, or at least he was

968
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 6: down the stretch in September and Zimon recall they may

969
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 6: have taken him off the roster for the play else

970
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 6: but he was there and they used him some. He's

971
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 6: another guy frowze one hundred miles an hour and then

972
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 6: May just needs some prove his command a bit. But

973
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 6: it's gonna be an interesting battle all spring for that

974
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 6: last spot in the bullpen. And you know I said,

975
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 6: I said, Williamson Raggy are of course, the Louder could

976
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 6: also be in the running for that. If he doesn't

977
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 6: win the number five job, Burns takes that fifth spot

978
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 6: in the starting rotation, Louder would be a candidate for

979
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 6: that bullpen role as well. So that's gonna be interesting

980
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 6: to watch as the spring goes.

981
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: Along, no doubt. Tom Nichols with US Director of Broadcasting

982
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: and Public Relations for the end of Voice of the

983
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: Dayton Dragons and looking at first base Gosha South Stewart

984
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: is working a lot there, although he I believe he

985
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: started at second base today. So that's good news too,

986
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: because when Ellie de la Cruz needs a break, McClain

987
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: will go to short hopefully and sal could get plugged

988
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: in its second But really first base looks like his

989
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: primary position, which is fine. They want to get his

990
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: bat in the lineup. I just don't want the Reds

991
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: to ignore my man Spencer Steer, and Steer is mister versatility.

992
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it seems like he does accept that role

993
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 6: check and that's important that the player is willing to accept.

994
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 6: And he could be an everyday guy and still be

995
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 6: sort of the utility type guy. He could be in

996
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 6: the lineup somewhere every day. It might just not be

997
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 6: the same spot because when I hear reports that he's

998
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,479
Speaker 6: open to the idea of playing second base on days

999
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 6: when McLean's either off or playing shortstop. And as you mentioned,

1000
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 6: they don't have a utility middle endfielder this year, but

1001
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 6: like an Espinall Santiago Espinal that they had last year,

1002
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 6: So that means McClane will have to slide over and

1003
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 6: play short So maybe Steer plays second base. South Stewart

1004
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 6: is a guy that I've seen a lot of because

1005
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 6: he spent two years in Dayton, parts of two years

1006
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 6: with the Dragons, and when he was rafted he was

1007
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 6: strictly a third baseman and there was a lot of

1008
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 6: talk when he was drafted that he'd have to move

1009
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 6: to first base, and Soal didn't like that much. He

1010
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 6: thought he was He took that as a little bit

1011
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 6: of a knock on his athletic ability that he would

1012
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 6: have to slide over the first. Now now that he's

1013
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 6: a major leaguer, he's got a little different attitude I

1014
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 6: think about it. And if you're in the big leagues,

1015
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 6: you'll play wherever they need you, but especially as a rookie.

1016
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 6: But he could play a little second base. We'll see

1017
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 6: how Francona handles that. Will will they go with Steer

1018
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 6: at second base? Will they go with Stuart? That's a

1019
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 6: question to be answered in spring training, I think. And

1020
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 6: it was interesting today if you noted Chick and this

1021
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 6: doesn't surprise me, and it wouldn't surprise anyone who knows

1022
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 6: South Stuart, and that would be that the very first

1023
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 6: use of the challenge on a ball and strike call.

1024
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 6: I'm sitting here watching the game and I see a

1025
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 6: pitch come in that looks like it's all forward to

1026
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 6: South Stewart and it's called a strike, and it looks

1027
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 6: to me like it's probably not a strike. And I'm

1028
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 6: thinking to myself, I know South South, I'm gonna take that.

1029
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 6: He's going to challenge that. Sure enough, he taps his helmet,

1030
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 6: he challenges the call, and it comes back his ball forward.

1031
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 6: So here you've got a rookie as the very first

1032
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 6: guy to challenge. Obviously it's a spring training game, but

1033
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 6: he was the first player to challenge an automated UH

1034
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 6: to use the automated ball and strike rule. So that

1035
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 6: was interesting today.

1036
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: That is fantastic, Yes, and he took a couple of

1037
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: walks today, which I think is a good sign that

1038
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: he's just not flailing it pitches. So, you know, looking

1039
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: at the bench here, uh, man, it's going to be

1040
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: an absolute battle uh to you know, to make this team.

1041
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: You know, on the bench, you've already got to catcher

1042
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: Jose Trevino. Travino like locked in there. But man, Will Benson,

1043
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: JJ bledat, Dane Myers, Blake Dunn, came on strong in

1044
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: the miners last year, Ree Hines, and there's Nathaniel Lowe

1045
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: who's here you know as a non roster invite, along

1046
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: with Gareth Hampson who we saw some of last year.

1047
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: So it's just gonna be a war for those bench players.

1048
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 6: That's very very true and a good it'll be interesting

1049
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 6: to watch. And obviously, as you say, Travigno's got the

1050
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 6: team made as the backup catcher, so it leaves a

1051
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 6: couple other spots you've got You've got Benson and JJ Blooday,

1052
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 6: maybe it comes down to a battle between those two

1053
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 6: and Benson hit a just hit a rocket today for

1054
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 6: a two run home row. Though again, you you can't

1055
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 6: you can't decide your roster based on the first day

1056
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 6: of spring training. But those two, those two potentially could

1057
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 6: be in the battle for that last spot, and it's

1058
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 6: it's going to be interesting. H Low. I think I

1059
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 6: think he'll make the team if he has a decent spring,

1060
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 6: I think he'll make the team. He's a guy that

1061
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 6: hit I think what twenty seven a home runs two

1062
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 6: years ago in the big leagues, and he's going to

1063
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 6: hit two forty for you maybe and hopefully twenty plus

1064
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 6: home runs. But who if he's not on the opening

1065
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 6: day roster.

1066
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: And who is this again?

1067
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 6: Tom Nathaniel Law? Yeah, I believe he pronounces it it's

1068
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 6: l Owe like low. But he and his brother both

1069
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 6: played in our league on the same team at the

1070
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 6: same time. It's interesting check the younger brother was the

1071
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 6: prospect of the two, and the older brother, Nate, was

1072
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 6: just considered to be there because they had his younger

1073
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,919
Speaker 6: brother who was a first round pick, and Nate's ended

1074
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 6: up having the better big league career of the two brothers.

1075
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,479
Speaker 6: They both came up with Tampa Bay. They are both

1076
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 6: on the Bowling Green club in our league, and they

1077
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 6: pronounced it at that time low And so I think

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Speaker 6: I think he's got a good chance to make the team.

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Speaker 6: So you've got Myers as a possible back up outfielder

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Speaker 6: because of his ability to play center field. If Benson

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Speaker 6: doesn't make the team, you've got to have someone besides

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Speaker 6: Freedol that can play center field, and Myers would be

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Speaker 6: that guy. He's a good defensive center fielder. So Benson

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Speaker 6: also can play a little bit of center field, but

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Speaker 6: not really against the left hand pitchers. So that that's

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Speaker 6: a decision they've got to make. That's you've got, like

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Speaker 6: you say, you've got maybe one open spot on the bench,

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Speaker 6: and about two or three guys in that battle for

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Speaker 6: that spot.

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Speaker 1: Tom Nichols with us for just another minute here, Tom,

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Speaker 1: and looking at the batting order, who do you see

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Speaker 1: is the possible number two? Because that is just such

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Speaker 1: a critical, critical spot. I wish we could put Barry

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Speaker 1: Larkin back in there.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad you asked that, because before we came on

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Speaker 6: to that was one thing I was actually thinking about

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Speaker 6: talking about. Is that number two spot. You know that

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Speaker 6: they'd probably like to put mcclaim there, but he just

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Speaker 6: didn't hit quite well enough last year to be that

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Speaker 6: high in the order. They had Marte a little bit

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Speaker 6: there last year, but he hit better or lower. You know,

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Speaker 6: you're gonna see different pitching as a hitter, you're going

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Speaker 6: to be pitched differently. If you're down in the order,

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Speaker 6: you're gonna see more fastballs, and Martell hit better. Maybe

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Speaker 6: the sixth spot, so maybe it's Steer, Maybe it's Spencer Steer.

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Speaker 6: You could consider South Stewart there. So that'll be a

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Speaker 6: very interesting thing to see now today today's lineup really

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Speaker 6: was not a true line up. They had Tyler Stevens

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Speaker 6: and hitting the lead off, and they had Auhane oslor

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Speaker 6: Is hitting second. I think mostly just to make sure

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Speaker 6: they got their bats before they came.

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Speaker 2: Out of the game.

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Speaker 6: And uh so that that was not a true indication

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Speaker 6: of anything. But that'd be a very interesting one to watch,

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Speaker 6: I would say, in my opinion, if they don't put

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Speaker 6: McClain back there in the two spot, I would say

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Speaker 6: it would be either Stewart or Steer that number two

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Speaker 6: spot in the order.

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Speaker 1: And real quick tom season tickets and tickets available for

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Speaker 1: the Dayton Dragons this year.

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, we've got single game tickets opening up on

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Speaker 6: March the second, a week from Monday. It'll be our

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Speaker 6: twenty six season. Chick season tickets available right now. You

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01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 6: can go to Dayton Dragons dot com slash tickets and

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01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 6: check it out. We've had one hundred and let's see,

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01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty seven Dragons players go to the

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01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 6: major leagues over the years, from Joey Vano and Jay Bruce,

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Speaker 6: Billy Hamilton and Todd Fraser. More recently, Hunter Green and

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Speaker 6: Tyler Stevenson, Matt McLane. All these guys Elie day La

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Speaker 6: Cruz played in Dayton. We invite the Reds fans listening

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01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 6: on WLW to come up to Dayton for a game

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Speaker 6: this summer.

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Speaker 1: Well, fantastic tom As always appreciate you, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 6: Chick.

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Speaker 1: All right, and as we head to break here man,

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01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 1: we are wide open this last half hour with Reds

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01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: with Bengals, with UC with Xavier and how about the

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Speaker 1: Miami RedHawks On seven hundred WLW nineteen minutes before the

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01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: top of the hour news, This is Chick Ludwig Sports

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01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: Talk seven hundred WLW awesome to have shoeless. Joe Waddell

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01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: is today's producer and Dan Carroll is waiting in the

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01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: wings to take you from six to nine o'clock tonight.

1143
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 1: And I've got two questions for all the loyal WLW

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01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: listeners out there. Number One, what did the U see

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01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: Bearcats eighty four to sixty eighth victory over Kansas today?

1146
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: Due to you as a fan? Are you back on board?

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01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: Were you ever off board? Is the paper bag finally

1148
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: coming off your head? What did that do to you today?

1149
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: Did that get you excited? For the Bearcats to chop

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01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 1: down number eight Kansas at fog Allen Fieldhouse, winning basically

1151
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: going away down the stretch eighty four to sixty eight,

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01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: pulling the Bearcats seven and seven overall in the Big

1153
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: twelve fifteen and twelve overall. That had to have gotten

1154
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: the NCAA Tournament Committee man their attention today and hopefully

1155
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: it got the attention of Joey Buckets, Joe Linardi and

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01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: Bracketology on ESPN. And how excited are you for the

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01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:47,799
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds baseball season despite today's four to two loss

1158
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: in their Cactus League opener to the Cleveland Guardians. We

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01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: are thirty three days away from opening day Great American Ballpark,

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01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: four to ten first pitch against the Boston Red Sox,

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01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: whom the Reds defeated four games to three in the

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01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five World Series. Well who has worn number

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01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: thirty three for the Reds over the years. This is

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01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: in keeping with Lance McAllister's uniform numbers during the week,

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01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: Johnny Vandermere double no hit Johnny war number thirty three,

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01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: along with Ryan Duran, Fred Hatfield, Al Worthington, and how

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01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: about Ed Armbrister. You remember Armbrister from the nineteen seventy

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Speaker 1: five World Series victory over the Boston Red Sox and

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01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: in the tenth inning of Game three of the nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy five World Series at Riverfront Stadium, with Saysar Geronimo

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01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: on base and nobody out, Armbrister collided with Boston Red

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01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: Sox catcher Hall of Famer Carlton Fisk at home plate

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01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: while starting to run out a sacrifice bunt, leading to

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01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: a wild throw by Fisk the second base that allowed

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01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: Geronimo to reach third and eventually scored the winning run.

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01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 1: Home Plate umpire Larry Barnett did not make an interference

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01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: call on Armbrister, a decision which was a source of

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01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: heated debate after the Reds won the game six to five,

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01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: and the Red Sox fans will never forget it, and

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01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 1: neither will Carlton Fisk at Armbrister wearing number thirty three,

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Speaker 1: along with Paul Blair, Larry Bittner, Ron Robinson, Rich Aurelia,

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01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 1: Micah Owings, Jesse Winker, and currently Christian and Carnascione Strand.

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01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: And when I mentioned the name Ron Robinson, oh, let's

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01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: go back to May second, nineteen eighty eight, one of

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01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: Robinson's most memorable starts once again, May second, nineteen eighty eight,

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01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: when he came within one strike of throwing a perfect

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01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:32,839
Speaker 1: game against the Montreal Expos. With a single, Montreal's Wallace

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01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: Johnson broke up what would have been the first perfect

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Speaker 1: game in Red's history. And according to teammate Tom Browning,

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01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: Robinson was pitching with pain in his elbow so severe

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01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: that he could not pick up a ball from the

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Speaker 1: ground without squatting down to pick it up. Tom Browning,

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Speaker 1: the late Great Tom Browning, would throw the Reds first

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01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 1: perfect game four months later. Wow, how about that? I'm

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Speaker 1: excited for the red season. I don't know why the

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01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: national media is so down on them. They think that

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01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: the Reds have just changed what chairs on the deck

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Speaker 1: of the Titanic. No, they've improved on their eighty three

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Speaker 1: win season last year. I think the talent is better

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01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: and they're banking on guys to get better, no doubt

1201
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: about that. It all starts with pitching. The Reds have

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01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: a fantastic starting four and we're eager to see who

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01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: is going to be the fifth starter in the rotation.

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01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 1: And all signs after today point to Chase Burns. Two

1205
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: score listennings to start today's game and just to relive

1206
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 1: his outing to day. Two innings, no hits, three walks,

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Speaker 1: two strikeouts, Chase Burns, Hunter Green, Nick Lodolo, Brady Singer,

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01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: Andrew Abbott. Your top four. It will be fun to

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01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: see who lands the number five spot. Matt McClain so much,

1210
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: so much is riding on him this year. And I

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01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: saw an interview with Pete Rose, and I hate to

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01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 1: hearken back to the Grade eight, but Pete was exactly right.

1213
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 1: One of the reasons for the power surge for the

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01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: Reds during their World Series years of seventy five and

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01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: seventy six two positions where you don't always see that

1216
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: much power. Catcher and second base, two Hall of famers

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01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: and Johnny Bench and Joe Morgan. Wow, what a plus

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01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 1: for the seventy five seventy six reds. A lot of

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01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: pressure on Matt McClain. I agree with Tom Nichols. I

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01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: think he will be the first to attempt to land

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01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: the number two spot in the batting order. It's probably

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01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: his to lose. He was given so many chances last

1223
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: year before he was dropped down deep in the batting

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01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: order to eight and nine. He'll be the first to

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01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 1: get that shot in the number two hole. And it's

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01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 1: so critical because that person has to be so versatile

1227
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: and to see how it all shakes down with the

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Speaker 1: bench players. We're gonna find out here over the next

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Speaker 1: thirty three days. Can't wait till opening day. It's always

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01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: a Cincinnati holiday. We're gonna take a quick break, come

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01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: back and rap. Put a bow on this show. It's

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01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,759
Speaker 1: been fun being with you today. This is Chick Ludwig

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01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: Sports Talk on seven hundred WLW five point fifty four

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01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,759
Speaker 1: in the Queen City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW the final five minutes of sports talk. Russ Jackson

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01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: has taken the baton from shoeless. Joe Waddell is today's

1237
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: producer and waiting in the bullpen. He's ready to come in.

1238
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: And when a caller called in during the break here

1239
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 1: and brought up a big time mistake by the chickster,

1240
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: that's because I looked right over it, and that is

1241
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: Josh Hamilton, remember him. Wow. Two thousand and seven, Josh

1242
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 1: Hamilton wore number thirty three for the Reds. Gosh, I

1243
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: see Yorman Rodriguez on this list. Jose Aredondo, I mentioned

1244
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 1: Micah Owings, Russell Branyon, Steve Avery in nineteen ninety nine

1245
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 1: wore number thirty three. So I appreciate that caller calling

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01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: me out fantastic. But Dan Carroll is waiting in the

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01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: wings here. I will be listening to Dan on the

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01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: way back to the Miamisburg war Room, and I'll have

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01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: a big smile on my face because is listening and

1250
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: watching the UC Bearcats today when their fourth game in

1251
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: a row, going away down the stretch to defeat number

1252
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: eight Kansas Jayhawks, who never lose, seemingly never lose at

1253
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: fall allen Field House. They went down hard today. They

1254
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:31,480
Speaker 1: had no answer for the Bearcats. Down the stretch. Mustapha

1255
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: Cham a career high twenty eight points. He was absolutely phenomenal.

1256
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 1: He scored every which way. Curls, left hand, right hand, dunks,

1257
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: jump shots, a couple of threes. He scored every which way,

1258
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: and man, it is fun watching Baba Miller play. He

1259
01:19:56,080 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 1: was terrific today. Eighteen points, six of eight from the floor,

1260
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: two for two from three point range, four of six

1261
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: from the foul line, seven rebounds, eight assists. He did

1262
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: have five turnovers, but a couple of steals. Boba Miller

1263
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: was all over the place. And I can't say enough

1264
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 1: about really the bench players, Tyler McKinley, Keishawn Tillery, sincere

1265
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: Buck Harris. And how about Jalen Celestine Thirty three minutes,

1266
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 1: fourteen points, five of nine from the floor, four of

1267
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:34,839
Speaker 1: eight from three point range, and he nailed three threes

1268
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: down the stretch, including a twenty six footer with two

1269
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: point fifty four to go, and all of a sudden

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01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: it was eighty to sixty two at one point in

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01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: that final was eighty four to sixty eight. And Bill self,

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01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: head coach of the Kansas Jayhawks two hundred and seventy

1273
01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: seven wins against nine losses to unre ranked opponents coming

1274
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: into the game, Well he's got ten losses now, incredible

1275
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: and the signature win in the west Miller era. I'm

1276
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: happy for Wes. Wow. You've listened to the postgame on

1277
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 1: some nights and at times very childish meltdowns, but never

1278
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: really losing faith in his players. And you want to

1279
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: be playing your best down the stretch of a season.

1280
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 1: And that's what the Bearcats are doing right now. Four

1281
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: straight wins and now they go into Lubbock, Texas to

1282
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: face thirteenth ranked Texas Tech on Tuesday night, but wins

1283
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: over UCF ninety two to seventy two, at Kansas State

1284
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 1: ninety one to sixty two, the comeback with just over

1285
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 1: a minute ago being down and then scoring a nine

1286
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Speaker 1: to zero run to beat Utah at fifth Third Arena

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Speaker 1: sixty nine to sixty five, and then today's defeat of

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Speaker 1: the Kansas Jayhawks eighty four to sixty eight. Is it

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Speaker 1: enough to save west Miller's job? I believe it is.

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Speaker 1: And now after Texas Tech home against Oklahoma State home

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Speaker 1: against number twenty two BYU then the Bearcats go to

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Speaker 1: TCU and then they get ready for the big twelfth Tournament.

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Speaker 1: Can they make a run, somehow, some way get back

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Speaker 1: to the NCAA Tournament. It has been way too long.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank today's guests Sames Rapine talking Bengals

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Speaker 1: and Tom Nichols talking Reds. And Dayton Dragons season tickets

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Speaker 1: tickets and until next time. This is the Chickster chick

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Speaker 1: Ludwig saying thanks for listening to the Home of the Reds.

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Speaker 1: Seven hundred WLW