1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Noon, A happy Friday morning to you well, sunshine out 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: there in Minneapolis, Saint Paul, and I'll get to the 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: timber Tech set list. Of course, the Minnesota Wild resuming 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: to action last night, just throttling the Avalanche mile high style. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: And in studio now is Chad Greenway. 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: Chad Greenway, former member of the Minnesota Vikings, of course 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: all timer as one of our linebacking core and at 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: Chad Greenway five two via X season studio. Now, how 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: you doing man, I'm doing well, man. It's been a 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: It has been a couple of weeks and a couple 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: of grind your fridays for me. So nice. Nice to 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: be back in here in studio seeing your smiling mug. 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: Are you feeling a little extra patriotic? This week? The 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: women hoisted gold? Unbelievable. 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: The dominance of the women's side has been so fun 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: to watch and just to see the way they come together. 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: The Minnesota connections is of course, we take so much 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: pride in that. 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: You know, I'm I'm felt like Team Minnesota over there. 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: I'm not as specky guy as you know this. 22 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: As you know, I got a bunch of basketball players 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 3: but the way that we embrace hockey here is so special, 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: and you try to explain to people that aren't from 25 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: here when you drive you know, I live West Metros. 26 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 3: Do you driving around a nice winter night and there's 27 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: just ponds lit up everywhere? Yeah, And I just think 28 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: about growing up in that environment if i'd had And 29 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: it's funny South Dakota four and a half hours away 30 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: where I grew up literally no hockey but or culture 31 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: of it right, but here, Like to think about a 32 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 3: kid skating and then watching Team USA, especially having all girls, 33 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 3: like all these daughters that look up for these girls, 34 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 3: it is special. And then to see the boys come 35 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: over the top, the men come over the top. I mean, 36 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: what are the NHL doing not having these pros play forever? 37 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: I mean the fact that they skip this for a 38 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: couple of years, like to see to have the best 39 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: players in the world. And I know Russia's got something 40 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: to say about that, but hey, you know all the rules, 41 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: you can come play. 42 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to get the bleep together. Yeah they 43 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: can participate too. 44 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: That because that would be sweet to have all three 45 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: of the powers playing again. But that was a special game, 46 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: and I think it's it goes to show you from 47 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: what I know about hockey is you don't have to 48 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: control the game to get the win. And in that game, 49 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: you know, obviously Canada was playing really, really well. But 50 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: sometimes it just doesn't go your way and you have 51 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: a goal that stands on their head and just plays 52 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: lights out and here we are. 53 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: Is awesome? 54 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Now this is I mean on air production a 55 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: if Brett Blakemore can can ask Zach Halverson if this 56 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: is his Chick fil ag that's sitting in the studio. Now, 57 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: I know everything's all good. It's always a party. Are 58 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: we go look at but look what's in there? But 59 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: if somebody could come get the garbage that is currently 60 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: in the studio, that would be a terrific help. 61 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: Say we got a Sammy in there, some little samich. 62 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: Okay, well maybe maybe their breakfast becomes ours. We have 63 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: some time to decide to decide on that. 64 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: Believe there's a biscuit involved. Looks delicious. Actually you probably 65 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: put that delicious food. All right, we'll work on that 66 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: during the first break. We'll make this a quick segment. 67 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: But but you know, it's it happened five. One thing 68 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 3: that I was thinking about, is. 69 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: It happens on SUN morning, everyone's excited, and now on 70 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: a Friday, it's still kind of I want this victory 71 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: tour to kind of continue. 72 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: Do you ever feel like in life like really great things. 73 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe while to live in it, you want 74 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: to just embrace it and love it and spread across 75 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 3: the country with joy. 76 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: It's amazing, especially now. 77 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: But by nature of our of our fruitfly like attention spans, 78 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: it's almost like, oh, Okay, that was great, that was tremendous. 79 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: Now time to move on. 80 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, welcome to social media age. And when things just 81 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 3: to you know, all of a sudden, it's what's next, 82 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: And NHL is playing again, and all of a sudden 83 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: the while they're back on and yeah, and it's like 84 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: that that was amazing. You wish they had like another 85 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: week to kind of bask in this thing and and 86 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: do the media tour and spend more time together as 87 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: a team and embrace all that, because I don't think 88 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: there's anything more special than than watching your country compete 89 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: for something and then go beat the power in the world. Obviously, 90 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: it's been a long time since it happened here in America. 91 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: With the men's on the men's side, women have been 92 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: have been dominant, but you know since eighty obviously, which 93 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: was you know, the probably the most most famous American 94 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: win an Olympic history. 95 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's and it's like, chew a little more 96 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: slowly on this, don't chug it, sip it, enjoy this thing. 97 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: These moments are so fleeting. You mentioned that in nearly 98 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: five decades. 99 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes it takes about you know, you're gonna smoke 100 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: that pork, but it takes about twelve fifteen hours, like 101 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: a little slow and. 102 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: Easy let her go. 103 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: Don't get me started on that, right, But it's the uh, 104 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: you're right though, because now you're going to look back 105 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: at this thing. It's like a fleeting moment. All of 106 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 3: a sudden, it was back in action. There's all this 107 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: stuff going on in the NBA, now hew, come here 108 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: come the playoffs and you come the finals and you 109 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: come all the stuff, and there's all these different talking points. 110 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 3: But to me a little bit the Olympics, I'm not 111 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: sure it was just the coverage or just my schedule. 112 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: I didn't get a chance to watch as much Olympics 113 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: as I typically do. I'm guess that's more my schedule 114 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: than anything. But yeah, which is disappointing because I mean, 115 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: I think I love you know, you love watching Olympics 116 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: because you want to root for your country and see 117 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: all the crazy stuff they're doing. But it was fun 118 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 3: to be able to take that all in, especially in 119 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: the hockey side. 120 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: It was and speed skating's fun. I mean, speed skating 121 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: is excellent to watch too. Well, I'm on the other 122 00:04:58,680 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: end of it from you. 123 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: I actually I had more time than usual, both the 124 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: the All Star break for the NBA lines up kind 125 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: of in this nice spot where there's this nine to 126 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: ten day lull and then hockey of course, because they're 127 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: in the Olympics. Now you're off for three weeks. Well 128 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: we're your home for wolves and wild yep, and so okay, well, no, okay, 129 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what this two man lose 130 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: thing is, what that's all about? Uh and uh, I mean, 131 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: whether it's it's the snowboarding, it's the skiing, Norway just 132 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: freaking dominating the super cool biathlon bit with the cross 133 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: country skiing, and then. 134 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: They got to they got. 135 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: A car rain and hit those fifty yard shots. 136 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: Like just you know, being a hunter and being in 137 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 3: that world and loving that part of what we have 138 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 3: as Americans. Is the most impressive thing to me is 139 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 3: that heart rate balancing, that out, controlling your breath after 140 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: whatever they do, a mile circuit, whatever it is, they're 141 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: doing something crazy to come back. I think these targets 142 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 3: and they're excellent at it's unbelievable. 143 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: But while you were, you were on basket all duties. 144 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: I'm always I was up at Ballard's resort, Lake of 145 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: the Wood, Let's go, So it's all dude, ice fishing, 146 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: ice fish, let's go. 147 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in a gym all the time pretty much. 148 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, there's a lot of parents out there that 149 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: understand a lot of a lot of hockey rin crats 150 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: out there too. So yeah, the winter sports scene is 151 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: so alive and well in Minnesota, it's crazy. 152 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: And you saw those all those viral videos the kids. 153 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: There were a couple of, like you, hockey games that 154 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: had been to celebrate. 155 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 3: And they should have they should That's exactly what they 156 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: should have done. Whoever was in charge of those youth events, 157 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 3: they said, hey, this just happened because they all wanted 158 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: to be They got that scheduled time, Like god, we 159 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: had played at nine am on this on the day 160 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 3: at the Olympic Game. They're all gonna probably watch it back, 161 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: but they used to got to find out the won 162 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: before they had to go watch it. 163 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: But it was crazy though, because the idea of so 164 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 2: fishing up there. 165 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: They I mean, it's so clockwork up there. Ballards kicks 166 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: ass and we're supposed to leave at eight. So you 167 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: hop in this old bomber deer on tracks and the 168 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: whole they take you out near the border, which was 169 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: the perfect spot to watch a USA Canada hockey guests. 170 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: And these guys are hardcore ice fishermen. Now I'm sitting 171 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: up there. 172 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: It's like I know how to beta hook and all that, 173 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: and my buddy's showing me how to use the vex lar. 174 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: But but other than that, I'm certainly a novice and 175 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: we're just smashing these giant perch up there. 176 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: It was an unbelievable weekend at Ballards. 177 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: But I was surprised because all the hardcore fishermen, you know, 178 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: they spent their harder money to go up there spend 179 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: the weekend. We got to leave it eight. They're like, no, no, 180 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: no, no watching hockey. No, We're gonna stay in the bar 181 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: at Ballards and we're gonna watch puck drops start to finish, 182 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: and I mean, just an unbelievable And that's being able 183 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: to soak that in watching your country and I Meanish. 184 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: I mean we are a great country. 185 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and to be able to celebrate dice together and 186 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: embrace this. It's funny that hockey has sort of done 187 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: this with the Four Nations and then was that last 188 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: year I think, and then and then with the Olympics 189 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: this year. How that's kind of been the sport that 190 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: has done this the best when we talk about like 191 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: country versus country and embracing that, because that Four Nations 192 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: final was nuts. Yeah, it was kind of leads into 193 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: this rivalry that then go jumps to the Olympics, which 194 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: makes this game even bigger. So I think credit to 195 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: the powers to be at hockey that have done that. 196 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 197 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: Now watching the combine, I don't know, I don't strike 198 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: You don't strike me as a person that sits down 199 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: and just hits NFL network on its eyes in the 200 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: whole thing. 201 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: I'm not even sure if I have NFL network, to 202 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: be honest, that's how awful. I amn't watching TV. I'm 203 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: the worst. I don't watch TV. 204 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: Well, it's a it's a good example. 205 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: So so I was I returned from from up north 206 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: on Monday, so I wasn't in and then PA's in Indianapolis. 207 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: You again feeding moments. It's like I want this. I 208 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: think Quinn Hughes is going to be on like SNL 209 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: this weekend, Like I want that to keep happening. Let's ride. 210 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: But in the news cycle and events, and you jumped 211 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: from from one thing to another instantly. I come back 212 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, it's well, I wonder what Kevin O'Connell's going 213 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: to say, what Rob Brazinsky's going to say. There wasn't 214 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: a lot of time to really soak it in, which 215 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: is why I kind of started just kind of harkening 216 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: back to the weekend to begin But now that the 217 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: combine is in motion. I just watched some video because 218 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: I saw a post on it yesterday Sunny Styles, this 219 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: linebacker from Ohio State. 220 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: I just saw this kid on social media this morning. 221 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: So you saw it. You may have seen similar things. 222 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: What is that? Yeah? 223 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: Like what like what like? Where does that come from? 224 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: So me as a genetic makeup of this human being 225 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: is unbelievable. 226 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing. 227 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: So you know, mediocre high school goalkeeper as I was 228 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: in soccer, humble beginnings, man Cato, Minnesota. There's auster East. 229 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: I was a West kid. Okay, so you're read right 230 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: the what are you the ye? West is the best, 231 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: East is the least. 232 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: And what do you guys? 233 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: Cougar's are the East scarlets scarlets? Yes, that's right, you're 234 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: right throughout one. 235 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: Sixty nine yeah, off of yeah, Highway sixty yeah, oh yeah, 236 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: oh yeah, hop on down. 237 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: There's a question queen across the street. 238 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: There is drove great fond memories that were getting way 239 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 3: off track here of my dad before I lost him, 240 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: when he was sick at that dairy queen, when I 241 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: was at training camp, No way, never. I have a 242 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: bunch of pictures of us right there with my kids 243 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 3: at that DQ that you probably frequented a lot based 244 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: off how you look when you were high school. 245 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: I what that means if you can believe this, I 246 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: think I graduated about like one hundred and seventy five 247 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: pounds and now you're one ninety five. 248 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: Well yeah, one yeah, carry the hold on. Yeah. 249 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: It's a simple math problem that I'm not interested in 250 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: solving at this particular moment I actually was. I was 251 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: looking at my driver's license. So I'm about two fifty 252 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: five now, yep, and I still have I got to 253 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: update my life. I still put two thirty up. Of 254 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: course you do so ok goals, Yeah, slim it out 255 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: a little bit, and that's that's something to work towards. 256 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: But but from that end, mayk it a west and 257 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: humble beginnings there, Uh, genetics, skill, there are some just 258 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: just some very simple things that I was missing, right, 259 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: I loved it. We all had dreams of going pro. 260 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: We all looked up to athletes and those things. It 261 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: doesn't work out. So it's a humbling experience for me. 262 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering just even as a guy that removed 263 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: from the league, it'll be uh, I guess it'll be 264 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: ten years decade this year, right, real? Yeah, you're super 265 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: high end. You were, you were one of the best 266 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: on the field at all levels. You have a terrific 267 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: NFL career, and just a decade later, you're watching some 268 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: cat with a forty three inch vertical He's probably gonna 269 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: run like four three five or four four yep? Like 270 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: is that even as a pro athlete? Again, there should 271 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: be pride and self respect for what you accomplished. But 272 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: even in such a short period of time, it's like what, Yeah, 273 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: what happened? How did that happen? 274 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 275 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: I mean you look at these I just think it's you. 276 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: Know, you talk about just specialization of sports, but also 277 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: we know so much more about the human body, how 278 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 3: to train it, how to work it, how to get faster, 279 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: how to kind of everybody's born with this bandwidth you 280 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: have of a nervous system, and how do we get 281 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: to the top of that nervous system to be as 282 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: explosive and fast. But at the end of the day, 283 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 3: it's genetics in a lot of cases. And this guy 284 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: is a complete freak. And I could ask this all 285 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: the time by young by young parents, you know, parents 286 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 3: of young kids. My kid plays linebacker. He's a thirteen 287 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 3: year old kid loves this. He's like, you know, he 288 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: like what does he have to do to be a pro? 289 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: Like was he there to be a Division one player? 290 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: What was it to do this? 291 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: And like can you look at the parents, You're like 292 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: change parents, Like you can't like. 293 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: Like genetics are going to get you so far? 294 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: You know that you try not to say the actual 295 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: truth you're thinking, but you're like, Okay, guys like you 296 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: have these expectations, but like you know, look at what 297 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: you're giving them as genetics, and then what the tools 298 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: are going to have to work with. 299 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: Now. Of course, you can outwork a lot of that. 300 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: You can do a lot of great things, but there's 301 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: only so much hard work that's gonna get you. But 302 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: sunny styles, you know, he was born I always talked 303 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 3: to about Adrian. Adrian was a freak of the freaks, right, 304 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: Percy Harvin. I'll throw a Jimmy kleinsaucer in there, Steve Putchinson. 305 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: These guys that were just born different, different nervous systems, 306 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: different strengths, can do freaky stuff. And like Adrian didn't 307 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: trade himself to be that way, Adriane was born. 308 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: His genetic makeup is just different. So like you can't 309 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: outrain that. 310 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: You could be like, hey, Adriane, like you know, has 311 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 3: done a pull up in two months and be like, hey, 312 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: can you do thirty pull ups? He do like thirty seven, 313 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: Because you just like he's just a freak. And those 314 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: guys just exist out there in nature and you realize 315 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 3: that they are the one percent of the one percenters, 316 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 3: and like, unfortunately a lot of times even in the 317 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: league is those guys don't make it because they've relied 318 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 3: on that so much that when other people are really good, 319 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: they don't know how to buckle down and work through 320 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: something that's tough for them because their whole life they 321 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 3: would have stuff handed to them. So for me, the 322 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: benefit was I was I got nobody recruit nine man 323 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 3: football like quarterback and had to earn everything all the 324 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 3: way up. So like when hard time, when times are hard, 325 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: it's like, oh, this is easy, I've done this before, 326 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: Like nobody expected much of me. So that was kind 327 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: of the benefit. In some cases, it's hard for those 328 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: guys when things do get tough. 329 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: So when you were going through the Combine in two 330 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: thousand and. 331 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 3: Six, awful experience, it was it's just awful. I mean 332 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: the whole thing is awful. And you basically like you 333 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: have this whole college career. You know, you played Iowa 334 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 3: City for four years, have a nice career, do some 335 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: great things, have team success, and then you go to 336 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl and you play right, you show and 337 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 3: prove that you can play in front of the best 338 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: seniors that are out there. 339 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: Have all this tape and you go to combine, it. 340 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: Can be taken away from you like with a bad 341 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: forty or with a bad lift, or with a bad whatever. 342 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: And to me, that thing again, there's a lot of 343 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: careers that are made, and a lot of guys that 344 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: get careers that should have them because they can they 345 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 3: can test. And there's a lot of really good football 346 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: players that drop because they go there and can't test 347 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: as well. And also it turns out they go to 348 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: the NFL and they can play. And so I think 349 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: it's just weird thing and you have to have something. 350 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: You have to have some level of differentiation, right whereas 351 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: we're gonna have everybody to do the exact same tests and 352 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: see where everybody's at. Now, how do you read between 353 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: the lines and what the tape shows you, what the 354 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: physical ability show you. 355 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well in two thousand and six was this was 356 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: there this idea that I'm going to skip the combine 357 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: because that that's becoming more prevalent and popular than ever is. 358 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: I I don't want to put something on tape there. 359 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: I want to do it maybe comfy confines of an 360 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: individual prote prote or even individual workout. Yeah, because when 361 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: you're training when you're protege. 362 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: You're training where you've worked out your whole college career, 363 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: so ours was back in Iwa City. You're lifting on 364 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: the same bench as you've trained on. You're lifting on 365 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: you you're running the same turf. You're doing all the 366 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: same You're getting sleep, You're not you're not up, you 367 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: know up souper relate doing these interviews with NFL teams, 368 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: waking up at six thirty am. It's just the schedule 369 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: kind of throws you off. Then you run and do 370 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: the field work on the last day. And throughout that 371 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 3: four days, I think it's four days, you're testing. You're 372 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: doing the bench press test, you're doing that, you're taking 373 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: the intellectual test, you're doing the interviews, you're going through 374 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: all the scans of the body, doing all the you know, 375 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: to see what your body's like just from health standpoints. 376 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: So it doesn't it's not an advantage. If you are 377 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: a really good college player, has a bunch of really 378 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: good tape and you're going to be a high pick, 379 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: there really isn't advantage of going now, you know, if 380 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: you're going to be a top fifteen pick, like, are 381 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: you really going to elevate yourself that much more by 382 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: going to the combine. There's probably more harm that can 383 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: be done than than good. 384 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: Did you have a coach going through the interview process? 385 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: Did you have somebody that talked to you like, here's 386 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: what they're going to ask you, here's how you should respond. 387 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: Did you have that kind of guy? Never went through 388 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: any of that training at all. 389 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: I mean we trained physically trained, and I would see 390 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: with our strength coach, christ Toil, who is one of 391 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: the best to ever do it, and he had prepared 392 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: guys for the combine for years and had a bunch 393 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: of success. 394 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 2: So we're like, I'm like, wow, would I leave? I 395 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: want to train right here. 396 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: My wife was making all the money financial analyst right 397 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: out of college, so I was just living high on 398 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: the hog at that point. It was awesome and thank 399 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: you Jenny and and just trained that way. But then 400 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: the interview stuff is interesting because every team handled it 401 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: a little bit differently. Like I walked into a room 402 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: and the defensive coordinator gives me, Like I walk in, 403 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: before I sit down, he gives me like ten things 404 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: to He just like says ten words and like he's like, 405 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: I want you to remember these so you name them right, 406 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: their formations, their personnel groupings, their motions, and then you 407 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: do a twenty minute interview and he's like, what were 408 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: the ten words? Just stuff like that is like retention. 409 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: How smart are you? Can you react? Can you respond 410 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: adversity that I had? 411 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: Did you remember? 412 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? I do pretty well with the memorization stuff. That 413 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: part's pretty easy for me. But there's other things that 414 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: I'm hard to have a hard time learning like anybody. 415 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: But the hardest one I probably did was I think 416 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: it was the Jets, and they basically brought me in. 417 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: You sit down and they have say, we'll call it 418 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: fifteen snaps of my college play where I'm awful, like mistackle, 419 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 3: you know, looking like an idiot getting pancaked, you know 420 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: the stuff that happens in the fou fifteen. 421 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's a lot more than that, buddy. 422 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: You dig, you dig deep enough, and and they're basically like, 423 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: explain this play, Explain this play, what happened on this play? 424 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: What was your position? Like, what was your what was 425 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: your role? What was your job? What happened? 426 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: And you have to explain away like yeah missed that tackle, 427 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: digging my head across you know, didn't drib my legs 428 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 3: through miss assignment whatever it was. But it's just about 429 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 3: you understand the looking back. It's like every football game 430 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 3: you play is going to be very imperfect. 431 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 2: You know, I don't care the best of the best. 432 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 3: Right now, You're gonna watch seventy five plays, which you 433 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: do after every game you can you can think you 434 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 3: played the perfect game. You watch it back and you're 435 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: gonna have eight minuses ten minuses. 436 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's just the way football is. It's a 437 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: reaction sport. 438 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 3: You could take a wrong step, take a misstep, you know, 439 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 3: mishands whatever, and they just want to see how you 440 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: react to being criticized. 441 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 2: And like you get defensive, you get a break. You 442 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: just like own that stuff right. 443 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 3: And like I grew up on a farm where my 444 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 3: parents sort me all the time for not doing things right. 445 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: It helped me accountable. 446 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: So like I grew up in a world where like 447 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: that was normal, and we you know, and Iowa, we 448 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: watched film, we watched tape. We got criticized all the 449 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 3: time for not doing things right with high expectations. So 450 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 3: you come from a program where like you're not being 451 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: told how great you are all the time. That makes 452 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: life a lot easier when you walk into the league, 453 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: when you know it's going to be OK. Care how 454 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 3: good you are, you got to you gotta get a 455 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 3: hold that standard. 456 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 457 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: That's Chad Greenway in studio to kick off a Friday 458 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: feast and Nordowen for PA and that sets off the 459 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: timber Tech set list, brought to you by TimberTech TimberTech 460 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: dot com. 461 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: At ten oh five, we're. 462 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: Going to catch up, I believe, with hof Chris Carter 463 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: is going to call in. He's got a charity event 464 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: that he's a part of, and we're going to chat 465 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: some Vikings football with Chris Carter. Kevin Fallness mentioning the 466 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: Minnesota wild handling business in Colorado last night, no rest. 467 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: They're back at it tonight against Utah. But Kevin Fallness 468 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: Wild Radio Network. Around ten twenty, he's going to jump 469 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: in and we're going to go long form on the 470 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: on the hockey team, and then at eleven am, back 471 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: to football, back to the combine. Paul Charchi and speaking 472 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: of Utah from his nuclear bunker or arrest stop in Utah, 473 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: He's going to join me and we're gonna chat about 474 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, the Combine, the NFL Draft. Throughout the 475 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: final hour, Brett Blake Moore produces again. 476 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: I'm Nordo. 477 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging out with us on a Friday morning. 478 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: More to come with Chad right here on the fan Fan. 479 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: Do you want to be at the next big game 480 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: or concert? 481 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 4: Well, we're getting giving away tickets to the Wild Santana, 482 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 4: the Doobie Brothers, Chris Dapleton, and plenty more enter todaykfan 483 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: dot com, Keyworcontest, kfan dot Com qure Contests. 484 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: Okay, welcome back to solving the world's problems. 485 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: Here during the break, it's nine to noon. 486 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: Nine to twenty five, another segment with Chad here the Uh. 487 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: By the way, I have some homework for you. I 488 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 1: don't know if you're you're you're busy enough, I mean 489 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: homework and I don't know ever, it's just so you 490 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: can see my grades, the the the combine for me, 491 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, coming out of it, Pa and and and 492 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: Pete Bursage did a couple of awesome shows in India 493 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: earlier this week. But it's still kind of I come 494 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: out of it maybe with a couple names right away 495 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: that kind of pequed my interest, but I'm still more 496 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 1: of a trying to dial in position wise what that 497 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,239 Speaker 1: target might look like at pick eighteen and is and 498 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: should it be position position specific? Excuse me, I apparently 499 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: can't talk, but I looked at some Hawk Eyes. So 500 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: you're Hawk Eys have nine players, So homework. 501 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: As at the combine. 502 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: At the combine and we got in a quarterback got 503 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: left out, So you have this team needs a center. 504 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know about that Chad Greenway. 505 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: We produced centers at Chad Greenway five to two via 506 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: x Logan Jones. He is in that top three four 507 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: center ish area. Then you have Bo Stevens. Yep, you 508 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't believe both Stevens. He's your guard. He's top ten 509 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: ish in terms of his rankings into it. Don't need 510 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: Drew Stevens the kicker. Interested to know more about Max Llewellene, 511 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: a d liner stud, Xavier Wonkpa, a safety safety. So maybe, 512 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: if anything, there's some homework in the essence and in 513 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: the spirit of helping your favorite NFL team, if we 514 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: can get some if we can get some elite intel 515 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: on the Hawk Eys. 516 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, freaking nine of them in more hawkeys the battle. 517 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: Let's be honest, you go for fans rolling your eyes 518 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 3: out there. More golfers too, huh. I mean that's I 519 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: mean PJ is producing some some pros as well, some 520 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 3: big time pros. I like Llewellen a lot. The defensive lineman, 521 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: very versatile, He's going to play. He's not gonna value 522 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: with athleticism, but he's gonna absolutely be in the right 523 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 3: spot all the right time. He's gonna be super physical 524 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: at the point and play multiple positions offensive line. 525 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 2: I mean, was he an edge or was he more he. 526 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 3: Would he would wrote to be played edge, Yeah, but 527 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 3: he can play inside too. I mean we we our 528 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 3: edge guys are built like interior guys. I mean we're 529 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 3: not gonna we're not gonna wow you with our speed 530 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: rush off the edge, but you're gonna be versatilely, gonna 531 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: play your role and do your job and kind at 532 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: a high level. So maybe with Flores he'd be an 533 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 3: interior problem most like an interior guy offensive line. I mean, 534 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 3: this is the guys were we've been historically, we've been producing, 535 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 3: have been doing very well the game. The style of 536 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: play and the type of kid that are coming out 537 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: of there. I mean it matters, right, I mean where 538 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: you're getting kids from, how they're being taught, what they're learning, 539 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 3: and what that what that gap is, Because when you 540 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 3: get to become a pro all a sudden, like how 541 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 3: much gap is there to like catch this kid up 542 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 3: so we can use him right now? Like how much 543 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: does that fit the style of play though of our offense? 544 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: Why this the fit matters so much? And I think 545 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: when you just like our tight ends, when you come 546 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: out and you can actually block and actually be an 547 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 3: extension of the offensive line, and by the way, or 548 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 3: fast enough to have to get open and catch football 549 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: is like that's just what you're gonna get from a Hawk. 550 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: Guys like the guy, he's just gonna probably do his job. 551 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: It's not gonna be flashy or sexy, but you're gonna 552 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: get it done. And and I like, I like all 553 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 3: the offensive lineman Jenning's dunker, the redhead with the with 554 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 3: the flop in the back. 555 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: I mean that he played right tackle for us. 556 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 3: Now just from a just from a look standpoint, we 557 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: got to get that guy, really, I mean just unbelievable, 558 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: just the redheaded flop that he's got going on. 559 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 2: It's just beautiful up top. I'm all in on that. 560 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: But it fit into the hockey space up here real good. 561 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: Do you remember Dan Feeney, Oh did you see him 562 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: during his short tenure here Indiana kid? And he had 563 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: the luck elite broom on that upper lip and that 564 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: more things that I sadly have fallen short in. But 565 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: but the flop and the look didn't didn't. It doesn't 566 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: always work, doesn't always work. But that's what we're talk about. 567 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: The Hawkys here. They're gonna get a companies, gonna be 568 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 3: solid at a minimum solid And I and I think, 569 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: uh Xavier Wonk Buzz was an interesting because he was 570 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 3: I want to say he was the biggest recruit ever 571 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: to go to Iowa. He's from Des Moines. He grew 572 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: up in Des Moines area. They kept him home and 573 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: he ended up having an incredible career there. Probably didn't 574 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: actually live up to the recruiting level he is, but 575 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 3: he's got a pro style game, and I think that matters. 576 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: Playing safety is sometimes when you go to io when 577 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 3: the style of play we played defensively doesn't always marry 578 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: up to what you're going to do in the pro game. 579 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: And I think I think the program actually fits him better. 580 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: And I love the versatility he can bring, whether playing 581 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 3: in the slot, playing in the box and being physical. 582 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: He knows how to tackle, he can play defense, and 583 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: he can also play in the back end. I love 584 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: him for our back end with Flores. To be honest 585 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: with you, so I think that, I think that, actually 586 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 3: think that's a really good fit. Not sure where he's ranked, 587 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: where's supposed to GOCU. I don't pay attention to the draft. 588 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: As much, but well, the ranks to get him the ranks, 589 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: it's it's mostly okay, so we kind of know who 590 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: the best in classes at any of these spots right now, 591 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: but a lot of it's subject to change. 592 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: And at eighteen, by the way, you bring bought that 593 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 3: up at eighteen, Like I think, you know, I was, 594 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 3: I was seventeen. 595 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: I think when you get in that middle. 596 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: Of the first round, you kind of have a you 597 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: kind of have people targeted that you say, hey, we 598 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 3: we would take these guys in the top ten, top fifteen, 599 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: Like if somebody falls to eighteen, we have two or 600 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: three names that we're absolute going to go stretch and get. 601 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: But now you're probably going for best player available to me. Like, 602 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 3: I think it's the best player available in position of need, 603 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 3: and you go get that guy at eighteen unless there's 604 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: some movement the guy you've fall in love with, Well. 605 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: Let me let me look at this for a second. 606 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: Let's let's okay. 607 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: So you mentioned best player available. So two thousand and 608 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: six NFL Draft, the Vikings select Chad Greenway, linebacker Iowa. 609 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 2: Bobby Carpenter goes a spot after you. Yeah, missed that one. 610 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: Thank god, guys. 611 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: Okay, so now we're still best player available. Antonio Cromarti 612 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: goes nineteen. Yeah, yeah, good having kids, I think we're 613 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: still best player. Avail, great cover guy, very good. Dude 614 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: was massive. I mean he's like six to two long arms? 615 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: Crazy? Was that a good player? Was that an age? 616 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: Because now, to be honest, the six to two hundred 617 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: pound corner is not the anomaly. 618 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: Maybe that at once? Yeah he was, and he he is. 619 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: We're closer than Antonio, Antoine Winfield, excuse me, more so 620 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: than they were. 621 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 3: Tomarty was sort of I mean he not the original, 622 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: but one of the original guys that had so much 623 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: length and I mean you can go flying a scrimmage 624 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 3: with him. 625 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 2: Great player. What about Tom ba Lee. He goes twenty 626 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: to the Chiefs. 627 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: He stud Yep Studd, Lawrence Maroney stud go Gophers stud 628 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: Manny Lawson. 629 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they run. Yeah. 630 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: Deavin Joseph, Yeah, Bucks Bucks guard. Good player. Jonathan Joseph 631 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: I think, had a nice career, went to the Bengals. Yep, 632 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: let me see here. Mercedes Lewis, I think he's still 633 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: he's still He's literally still playing. 634 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: He's still playing. Yeah. 635 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 3: I never had like a super high end career, but man, 636 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 3: has he been good alone time? 637 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: Solid? Yeah, Joseph had died of the Colts. Yeah, good player. 638 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 3: It kind of looks like, well, keep looking, there's more 639 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: guys out there. 640 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, but but how far do we need 641 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: to go down? 642 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: Solid? Like Andrew Whitworth made a nice career for himself, 643 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: But he's the second rounder. 644 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 3: Devin Hester though, Yeah, Devin Hester Studd, he's in. He's 645 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame. You haven't heard about him. 646 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 3: Demiko Ryans is the top of that second round. He's 647 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: now the coach of the Texans. That's how well I am. 648 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 2: Oh he is. 649 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, Duquel Jackson Yeah said linebacker. Yep, you see, I'm 650 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: still saying I think overall, I think Vikes went. 651 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: Do you think Vikes went best overall at seventeen? Uh, 652 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: they definitely they plug a spot. 653 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: I think they went need and I think they went 654 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: the one they they again, I will go back to 655 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 3: my my time pre draft is I went to the 656 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: Senior Bowl and I had I had a good week 657 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 3: down there, and went to the Pro Bowl, went to 658 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 3: the combine, had an okay, combine was not didn't blow 659 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: it didn't blow it out of the water. Uh, but 660 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: worried about to four seven six, Yeah, because that because 661 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 3: I was a speed guy. So I went down there 662 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 3: and I actually laid an egg and I come back 663 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: to my protay and run. I never ran lower than 664 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: four to six in college. And I got to my 665 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: proday and run four five nine. There we go with 666 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 3: the with the Vikings and everybody there, with everybody with 667 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: at the stop watch. You know, it's like just running 668 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: and you're like, okay, that's so that I kind of 669 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: redirected that, which was nice because that was that was 670 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 3: the game, part of the game that was most important. 671 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: Then. 672 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: So Mike Tomlin's there take does the Pro Day. But 673 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: then I got come in pre draft and Mike t 674 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 3: was just basically showing all senior Bowl tape like in 675 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 3: our little meeting before pre draft, and then coming up 676 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 3: on draft, I mean as new as a good position fit, 677 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: you know, coming to play in that Tampa two. Say, 678 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 3: back in zone, I said something I'd done at Iowa, 679 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: so I figured the Bikings would have a chance. 680 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: It's a pretty good draft here, Maurice Jones. Drew went 681 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: your year as well. Yep, let's keep stretching back any value. 682 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: Jarry Evans wasn't bad on the O line for the Saints. 683 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: He was a fourth rounder. Goskowski though, yep. Oh, Brandon 684 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: Marshall Bronco's fourth rounder, Elvis Dumerville man good players. Ronco's 685 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: kind of cleaned up mid round the mid rounds that year. Yeah, 686 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: see that. That's the fun part about the draft. But 687 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: getting back to whether it's the Hawk gys, it's more position. 688 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 2: Based than it is player based. 689 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: So much has to happen over the last couple of weeks, 690 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: I you know, again, busy weeks as they are. I 691 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: don't know how much you keyed into both Kevin O'Connell 692 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: and Rob Razinski taking time to sit down with Pa 693 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: and Pete in Indianapolis and just trying to sift through 694 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: those tea leaves and just whether it's the amount of 695 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: commitment that you have to to JJ McCarthy. That's going 696 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: to be a talker until some dominoes fall. But even 697 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: with Brazinski speaking to the need to really he needs 698 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: to handle business in this draft right and you can 699 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: you can think about being permanent GM down the road. 700 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: That's that's not a now talker, but just to focus 701 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: on really acing this draft. 702 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: And then you got to wait eighteen months. 703 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: So if right you take take the test, jobs will 704 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: come in. 705 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes you know in the summer that you missed you know, 706 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: well you know right away if you missed almost almost 707 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: almost immediately. 708 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: Well I hope we don't know that, yeah, September game one. 709 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: But but among all of those talkers, you know what 710 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: we do in the draft, some things have to happen 711 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: before and that includes TJ Awkinson the big decision on 712 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: HOK and you know that that cap number is massive, 713 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: h Sadly, you know the injury takes place that steals 714 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: the better part of a calendar year from us in 715 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: terms of getting that productivity. Didn't get a touchdown two 716 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: years ago until in that playoff loss at the Rams, 717 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: trying to do his thing this year. 718 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: Just what do you think the future holds from TJ? 719 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: A Hawkey but finding his way here the money we 720 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: paid him versus maybe the production we're getting or not getting. 721 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: What do you think about TJ and what he means 722 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: to this offense and what it means if he goes elsewhere. 723 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's definitely gonna be one of the biggest talkers 724 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: of this offseason, just based off all the things you listed. 725 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 3: And I think his usage rate to me was just 726 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 3: it happens for a reason. Either the game plan and 727 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 3: scheme isn't being produced for him to get the ball 728 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 3: or be the option that we need him to be. Yeah, 729 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 3: and or he's not able to get open to man 730 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 3: the man situations to go get a win in those 731 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: in those in those critical moments. And again I'm not 732 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 3: breaking down the all twenty two to see what's going on. 733 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: But reality is is like the number matters a lot, 734 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 3: probably more so than the production. Even if he had 735 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: had a killer a couple of years. Is you still 736 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: got a look at the number and say, how do 737 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 3: we get free have some cash here? I think the 738 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: interesting part about this draft coming off of Quasi's tenure 739 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: here is was a heavy, you know, very well talked about, 740 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 3: like discussed like analytics base kind of approach, looking at 741 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: the numbers and kind of letting that drive your your 742 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: draft and seeing it now with Rob being in there, like, 743 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 3: first of all, great human being been around our organization forever, 744 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: done it the right way to now your personnel staff 745 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 3: that's it's always been there, yep, that's been so strong 746 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 3: and solid. Got great leadership in that personnel group is 747 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 3: really going to matter. And I think those guys and 748 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: their input working with Rob is going to be really 749 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: important to see. Like how we know you're breaking down 750 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 3: and watching these guys regionally as a scout, you know, 751 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: for two, three, four years. All of a sudden they 752 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: come the draft time and they say, listen, I've listened 753 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 3: to this guy. I've watched this guy. I've been at campus, 754 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: I've been at practice. I know Kwie works, I know 755 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: how he operates. It's less analytics and numbers based. It's 756 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: more based off what I've seen with my own eyes 757 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 3: over the course of these last couple of years. And 758 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to push this guy at the top of 759 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 3: the board and you got to take all those things 760 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: into account. I just think it's gonna be interesting to 761 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: see this draft and how it takes shape and how 762 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 3: Rob leans into those guys and gals in this in 763 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: the in the scouting department to really help us make 764 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: that best best scenario pick. And also because he is 765 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: the guy with the bag of money and he has 766 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 3: been historically know how these numbers work, like knowing how 767 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: he can make this thing work and put all together. 768 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 3: I'm so excited for him to have the reins of 769 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 3: this thing and vikings Fans who maybe just don't know 770 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 3: what it's going to look like, you should be fired up. 771 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: This guy gets it. He's been there, he is one 772 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 3: of us, and so I'm fired up for him. Yeah, 773 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: I'm fired up for him too. 774 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: You mentioned something that I've been really intrigued by, though, 775 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: is analytics in the sport So quasy moving on. 776 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: But other than that, all. 777 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: The same people really all the same parts, and we 778 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: can argue who gets a bigger piece of the pie 779 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: chart in terms of decision making. Later the quasy goes 780 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: robs in the change. From an analytical perspective, I just 781 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: wonder there are probably great examples of how it's truly flourished. 782 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: But in the terms of okay, just stick, we can 783 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: go back. I hate bringing this up, but it's been 784 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: brought up innumerable times. You can stick and take Kyle Hamilton, 785 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: or you can move back, try to you know, find 786 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: your way to an extra pick and take take Lewis scene. 787 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: Now Lewis scene, by the way, was a benchmark safety 788 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: for a title winning Georgia Bulldog's team, and so. But 789 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: but in the end, you know, specifically with with Rob Needing, 790 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: W's in the draft and this team analytics versus what 791 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: my eyes tell me, what the person themselves tell me 792 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: through connections and personal interactions and such. I just need 793 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: a guy that can freaking ball so we can play 794 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: the numbers games and trying to squeeze as much blood 795 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: out of that stone as we can. Maybe another time, 796 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: but I just need to know that that guy can ball, 797 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: screw it, stick and pick, not play games. 798 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: Just find that guy. 799 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: Maybe that's one of the differences we could see moving 800 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: for at least in the short term. 801 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 3: I think you you know, one of the things the 802 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 3: scouting department takes into account and the personnel people taking 803 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 3: account is where's that kid coming from? What program and 804 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 3: how do they how do they become pros? Because not 805 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: every program is producing the type of pros. Now you 806 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: have one offs and spinoffs, yes, certainly, But how the 807 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 3: Georgia Bulldogs defensive backs doing in the NFL historically coming 808 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 3: out of that system and then coming into the NFL, 809 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 3: which is a different game. And I think when you 810 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 3: a good example, I mean you try to find good 811 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 3: examples over the course of a of course of time 812 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 3: of a guy who comes in. Maybe you missed on him, 813 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 3: you hit on him, vice versa. But those those scouting 814 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 3: departments are at practice as watching all these guys are 815 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 3: being developed, and they know the numbers. And I think 816 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 3: so from an analytic standpoint, I think it's always going to 817 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 3: play a role, but it's got to be a blended 818 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 3: decision where it's going to see what my I see. 819 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 3: I've been on campus, I've seen him at practice, see 820 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: how he interacts. I've seen how he reacts to mistakes. 821 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 3: I've seen how he responds to criticism and coaching. To Okay, 822 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 3: the numbers also tell us a different story. How we 823 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 3: blend that together and find that right pick. Yeah, so 824 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure a I can probably do all this 825 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 3: real quick. But the reality is going to lean on 826 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 3: the on their scouting department heavily, I think this year, 827 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: and it's be fun to see how it plays out. 828 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting you mentioned that because the front 829 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: of Georgia has really flourished. Possibly you are past the 830 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: first two levels. So whether I mean we're talking about 831 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: the Jalen cars that back end, Like though, let's stop 832 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: spitting on people, please, but Jalen Carter is a high 833 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: in town in the NFL. Yeah, the linebackers, the Nakobe 834 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: Deans of the World, et cetera. 835 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: But I mean they're long removed from champ Bailey. 836 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my point, and I brought that up purposefully, 837 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 3: is because you you look at how programs are developed, 838 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 3: especially long tenured head coaches who have been in places 839 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 3: for a long time. So you know the product, you 840 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 3: know who they're recruiting. Yeah, you know how they're developing, 841 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 3: you know the scheme they play. Now how does that 842 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 3: game translate? And it was funny so when I came out, 843 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: I was meeting with the end the Saints, that team 844 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 3: that is from New Orleans that nobody likes, and I 845 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 3: met with them pre draft. Actually had the combine and 846 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 3: there I think it was a linebacker coach at the 847 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 3: time who was part of the pay to hurt Brett deal. 848 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 2: So I'm glad I missed that one. 849 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 3: But his question to me, and he used some excellent 850 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 3: is when he asked me this, He's real direct and 851 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 3: kind of confrontational when he asked me, He's like, why 852 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 3: the bleep would we take a linebacker from Iowa? There's 853 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 3: not been one good linebacker since nineteen eighty eight, But whatever, 854 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 3: he's saying. The stats right, and historically Iowa linebackers in 855 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 3: the nineties like had not produced any. 856 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm trying. 857 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 3: I don't want miss anybody off anybody, but anybody in 858 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 3: the nineties that had gone to the league and really 859 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 3: done anything. In early two thousands, same so abdual Hodgen 860 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 3: myself come out No. Six and the question was like, 861 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 3: why the h would we take you guys like this 862 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense. You haven't produced any players like this. 863 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 3: So then we kind of get drafted first and third round, 864 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden you start to see 865 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 3: this cycle of linebackers that come behind us. Now we've 866 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 3: had thirty guys and I'm making the number up twenty 867 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 3: to thirty. Guys in the last ten, fifteen, twenty years 868 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 3: get drafted, have long careers, have great careers, win super Bowls, 869 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 3: and I think it matters on how these guys are 870 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 3: getting developed in college. No different than a quarterback or 871 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 3: anything else. Is you're going to play a certain system 872 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 3: in college that you maybe can't use in the league. 873 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 3: So it matters what system you play in who you 874 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 3: play for. 875 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: That's a good point. I just blindly draft a tight 876 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: end from Iowa. Yeah, I think it's smart at least 877 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: just give them a shot. I don't even know if 878 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: there's a tight end. No, there's no tight end from 879 00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: Iowa at the comp next year. 880 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a couple. We have a young kid 881 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: that's gonna be really good to freshmen. So a couple 882 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 3: of years, but yeah, we I mean again, every coach 883 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 3: has has a good staff member that produces certain players. 884 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 3: It's just you know, I mean, of course there's anominally 885 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 3: so you can point out and tweet me there's a 886 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 3: million well yeah about this kid or that kid. But 887 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 3: like I wanted something that's going to be what's the 888 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 3: most guaranteed thing I can get that I know is 889 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 3: going to walk in here and be able to plug 890 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 3: and play. Don't have to worry about nor about his 891 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 3: character who he is. It's going to be solid and 892 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 3: that's be solid to great. 893 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 894 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: Absolutely, last thing for you, it's a text message from 895 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: brand just to go backwards a bit. You mentioned sometimes 896 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: that summer you can know if maybe you missed were 897 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: you talking about Christian poker. You know, there's a couple 898 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: examples that I have in my career where you there's 899 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: there's there's two ends of the spectrum. Is when you're 900 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: in OTAs in the summer before you go to training camp. 901 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: There's the guys that just murder in the underwear. Right, 902 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: you're in shorts and T shirts. 903 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 3: We call them up ers, these little these little softies 904 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 3: pads and your helmet, and you're out there run around 905 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 3: being an athlete, and nobody's said to each. 906 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: Other, well, now you've got the bro bra too. We 907 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: didn't have the bro bra GPS and the track monitors 908 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: and everything. 909 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, And and you got guys that just show out 910 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 3: in those and you know, on the off season and 911 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 3: then you go training camp, you're like, where did that 912 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 3: guy go? 913 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 2: Right? 914 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 3: You realize the pads came on and all of a sudden, 915 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 3: like football gets real, and like some guys can't. The 916 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 3: game does not translate all the time. And you have 917 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 3: guys that show up and especially in skill positions, you know, 918 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 3: almost always when you look at them in the summer, 919 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 3: you're like, nah, Like arm strength is definitely a factor, 920 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 3: like accuracy and arm strength like that can only improve 921 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 3: so much over time when you're a pro, Like your 922 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 3: arm strength is sort of probably your arm strength and 923 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 3: your ability to kind of read and put that ball 924 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 3: in the spot. 925 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 2: It's got to be all the time. 926 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 3: But I also think receivers, you know, dbs, guys getting 927 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 3: in out of their hips, like those those types of 928 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 3: thing you can't run away from, and that doesn't only 929 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 3: have so much room for improvement. So it's usually the 930 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 3: skill positions. And I don't want to name names specifically, no, 931 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 3: I understand. 932 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 2: Out of respect. 933 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: By the way, the worst player on any of your 934 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: teams was in elite athlete. 935 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes that's true. 936 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: So but hey, thanks for hanging out in the studio, man. 937 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate what's good. What's good with great now? Yeah 938 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: good better than everything? Good to be back great? 939 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're moving into spring Moat, so leaning heavily into 940 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 3: this hockey piece we got going on in America, which 941 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 3: is exciting. 942 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 2: We can lean into that. 943 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 3: You can see some new programming with our Seltzer coming 944 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 3: down the pipeline at some really big retailers that are 945 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 3: diving into gray Duck in a heavyway. So we're looking 946 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 3: for huge case stacks that can be very pro America 947 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 3: that we all can get behind as American. So I'm 948 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 3: fired up, so we're gonna lean to that. So be 949 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 3: looking for that in any liquor store you guys walk 950 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 3: into support local, So thank you, no, thank. 951 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 2: You, good to see you. That's Jack Greenway at Chad 952 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 2: Greenway five. 953 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 1: Two via X a little football, some com bites I 954 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: believe around the corner from Brett but then Chris Carter 955 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: around ten oh five, falling us on hockey ten twenty 956 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 1: Charchion as in Paul Charchian from Utah around eleven. 957 00:40:54,280 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 2: It's nord to win for PA. Nine to noon the 958 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 2: fan welcome some great shows of Mystic Lake Amphitheater. 959 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 4: Leonard skinnerd and Foreigner will be there August sixteenth, Botley 960 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 4: Crue August twenty. First you can get all of our 961 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 4: details on upcoming shows on the concert page, kfan dot com, 962 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 4: keywor calendar. 963 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: I just had to remove some food garbage that was 964 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: just left in the studio Brett, So I do want 965 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: to get to some combites here, combine underway workouts and 966 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: everything nine to noon, great podcastable interviews with the free 967 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Some cool Coveny catchups. But also you had 968 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: both head coach Kevin O'Connell and acting general manager Rob 969 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: Razinski sit down with Pa and Pete Bursich. Great conversations there, 970 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: and you can check it all with the free iHeartRadio app. 971 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna start combine combined bites, combites, combites. That's right, 972 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 4: with more of a question because I'm looking at all 973 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 4: the measurements and all the different talkers. So for instance, 974 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 4: I think you and Meat Sauce are Draft guys. You're 975 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 4: lock in. We're watching the fourth round. We're gonna have 976 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 4: live coverage to the two of you. We're doing it 977 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 4: like and some people are, some people aren't. But this 978 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 4: I'm reading a Twitter thread, a next thread from at 979 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 4: the Draft network, and it literally is just measurements of 980 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 4: the safeties, measuring in and it's a whole thread. Jalen 981 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 4: Husky not a great name safety Maryland, six' to one 982 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 4: one ninety. Six his arm, length his hand. Size there's 983 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 4: twenty five of these as they just come. In and 984 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 4: Then i'm looking at a bleacherport. Article Cassius. Howell he 985 00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 4: is a edge From TEXAS a AND. M, Yeah how's 986 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 4: lack of arm strength impossible to? Ignore, yeah measuring it 987 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 4: thirty and one fourth inches In. Indianapolis how can we 988 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 4: ignore his lack of arm? 989 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 2: Length? YEAH i. 990 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: Need first of, All i'll Need i'm gonna need a 991 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: month BEFORE i become a draft, guy But i'll get. 992 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 2: There, SECONDLY i do LOVE i do love. 993 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: The drilling into the, numbers as we Had greenway and 994 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: study and he mentioned, it you require these drills for 995 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: the sake of Having, okay so this is a specific 996 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: standard bar of measurement and everyone has to go through 997 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: that exact same, process and then you decide what matters what. 998 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: Doesn't arm length probably does matter in terms of when 999 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: you're talking about edge. RUSHING i mean you look at 1000 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: a guy Like Daniel. Hunter Daniel, hunter there are probably 1001 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: many olignemen that if they just if they just do 1002 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 1: if they just stand across from each, other And Daniel 1003 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: hunter puts his hands on that person's shoulder with his 1004 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 1: arms out, straight that old lineman can't get a hand 1005 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: On Denil. Hunter so there are aspects where it does, 1006 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: matter but they make these guys sound like D rex is. Out, 1007 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: yeah it's, unbelievable just like with these little baby. Hands 1008 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: now does hand size matter in terms of quarterbacks as 1009 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 1: it relates to. FUMBLES i know a lot of people 1010 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: When Kenny pickett was being drafted most, recently a lot 1011 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 1: of people, questioning, okay hand size like eight and change, 1012 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: right eight inches and whatever a half or a, quarter 1013 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: well's how's he going to be able to grip the? 1014 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: Football and then you Had Dante culpepper drafted by The 1015 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: vikings in nineteen ninety. NINE i had the opportunity to 1016 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: meet dantev since met him again at an event at 1017 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: the golf course At, meadows and first of, all, elite awesome, 1018 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: person but kind of the joke always was that he 1019 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: must have really small hands because of all the fumbles 1020 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: that we saw From, dante and so. 1021 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 2: He got his role on a. 1022 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: Bunch he fumbled a bunch fun times With dante here In. 1023 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota but, yes they tend to over maybe examine some 1024 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 1: of those specific numbers and measurables that play into. 1025 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 2: It. Now speed is another. 1026 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: Thing we Had Jack greenway, here he, mentioned you, know 1027 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: he runs a four to seven six at The combine 1028 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,919 Speaker 1: runs a four to six at at his pro, day 1029 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: and that changed things maybe in terms of how. Teams 1030 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: so maybe significant changes or significant jumps. 1031 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 2: Matter but, yeah arm length And i'll tell YOU. 1032 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: I might be excited for the draft and excited to 1033 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: do shows With saucy about. 1034 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 2: It i'm not really digging into. 1035 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 4: THAT i just want to meet the guy who has 1036 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 4: the notifications on for every time The Draft network tweets 1037 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 4: and just locked in on What lorenzo styles junior out 1038 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 4: Of Ohio, state what his hand size AS i. 1039 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 2: Want to meet that. Guy com. 1040 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 4: Bites are you mentioned it To, Greenway i'll turn it 1041 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 4: around to, you and maybe an early edition of. 1042 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 2: Sur Boom pray Per pray and maybe a position group 1043 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 2: that you like for. 1044 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: You Per Boom Prayer pray that's copyrighted by the. 1045 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 2: Program you can't play that. Nine is there a position? 1046 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 2: GROUP i? Know best player? 1047 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 4: Available that's what we, Do that's what we want to 1048 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 4: do at Eighteen but if if you had to nail 1049 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 4: down a position group for your purple for purple, prey. 1050 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 1: Heer boom, pray purple, pray where'd you? Go? Yeah, right right, 1051 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 1: NOW i am looking at safeties AND i am looking 1052 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: at interior defensive. 1053 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 2: Linemen so those are the two That i'm looking. 1054 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: At but but but as we'll talk more with With 1055 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: charch at eleven. O'clock this this is the same conversation 1056 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: we've had for a, week is that dominoes need to 1057 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: fall before you start really understanding where the holes are 1058 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: that need to be. Filled IF tj and, yes best 1059 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: player available and all of, that but IF Tj hawkinson stays, 1060 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: well that Makes Kenyon, sadik The oregon tight, end less 1061 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: of a less of a factor at a, team to 1062 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: the point where even any of you out there, Listening 1063 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: vikings loving roobs that you, are IF tj restructures his 1064 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: deal and you still have you still HAVE. Tj you 1065 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: still Have Josh. Oliver we're trying to figure out. BabyCare, 1066 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,839 Speaker 1: Guy you're a. Sec if we're still three or four 1067 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: tight ends deep and they get rid Of Javon hargrave 1068 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: and there's this awesome d tackle that you love there 1069 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: and they Take Kenyon, sadik you're going to be angry about. 1070 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: That so you can say best player. Available but then 1071 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: in the, end the depth in what this roster looks 1072 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: like on draft day does play a factor into what they. 1073 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: Do but right, now safety and d tackle for, me 1074 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 1: because as the roster is, NOW i Mentioned Javon, HARGRAVE 1075 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: i would be very much surprised if they don't find 1076 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:01,959 Speaker 1: a way to move. 1077 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 2: Him and is that an outright. 1078 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: Release we heard some steam over the week that there 1079 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: might be some trade, conversations but my, goodness the, money the, 1080 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: age the, PRODUCTION i don't know how you're going TO i, 1081 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: mean that would be a trade where you trade, them 1082 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: you get nothing, left nothing, back and you might have 1083 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: to keep some of that. 1084 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 2: Salary that might be the only way a trade works. 1085 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: Out or they'll throw you a twenty twenty eight to 1086 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 1: seventh round pick or something like. That and WITH tj 1087 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: the twenty plus million cap, number you know that would 1088 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 1: impact again what they, do but specifically to the, safeties 1089 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 1: they should Say Harrison smith and what appears to be 1090 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: the pending. Retirement then that would lead you down a 1091 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: road where it's, like we gotta do something about. That 1092 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: so the health of the health Of metellus a year 1093 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 1: ago kind of impacting things playing with that, shoulder and 1094 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 1: then ultimately a season ends, early all of those. THINGS 1095 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 1: i just look at safety and interior d line at 1096 00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,879 Speaker 1: this particular. Moment but, Again domino's far over the next 1097 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: two weeks in in terms of what we can. 1098 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 2: Expect maybe you can get a guy Like Chris carter 1099 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,479 Speaker 2: in the. Draft Chris, carter how about? 1100 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 3: That? 1101 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah And i'm let's do. 1102 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: This let's pause from some calm bites and we're gonna 1103 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: jump back into. It in earnest with at eleven o'clock 1104 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 1: With Paul charchie and joining from his nuclear bunker or 1105 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: rest stop In. 1106 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 2: Utah but we're gonna go heavy on. 1107 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: Football he's already as we were doing this, Segment, brett 1108 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: he was texting me maybe a few names that he'll 1109 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: be looking. At but that's conversation at eleven with charch 1110 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: The Minnesota wild thumping The Colorado avalanche and they're resuming 1111 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: of play last evening In, colorado front end of a 1112 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: back to. BACK i got a text From Drew Hey 1113 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,879 Speaker 1: brett play The Nobody cares sounder when he's talking about 1114 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: football and start talking about THE nhl And. 1115 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 2: Wild so we'll do that around. 1116 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: Ten twenty for, You drew and anybody else that's loving 1117 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: our favorite hockey team as they got back into action last. 1118 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: Night you tawd this evening on the road and you're 1119 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: home For Wild hockey The. Fan but next HO F 1120 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 1: Chris carter set to. Join there's a charity bent to, 1121 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,399 Speaker 1: it but we'll chat Some vikings football With Chris carter 1122 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 1: around the. 1123 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,319 Speaker 2: Corner It's nordo in For. Pa it's the fan