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Speaker 2: Is that correct? Today?

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Speaker 1: Joining us right now on the radio show from the

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Speaker 1: high school State Basketball Championships talking some Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: How are you man?

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Speaker 3: I'm good man, How are you good? Good?

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Speaker 2: Can you hear us? Hello?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Hello?

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Speaker 1: Got you just think one to two? Wait before we

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Speaker 1: start talking some Seahawks. What's the atmosphere like down there?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: Paint the picture for us.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a home game for two Tacoma teams. A

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Speaker 3: biggest day in high school basketball history for Tacoma, like

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Speaker 3: a dollar and preps plan. The number one high school

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Speaker 3: the country in we're near beach. That's the first semi final.

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Speaker 3: It's like beaches. I can't see the scoreboard from here.

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Speaker 3: And then the second game is link in the Age,

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Speaker 3: of the first game tomorrow night. We'll have them all

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Speaker 3: on nine fifty am, Like that's doing the tall right

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Speaker 5: Well, Greg, let's talk some Seahawks football, and obviously, I

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Speaker 5: think there's some trepidation right now. I think that's the

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Speaker 4: Where are we on those two particular players.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're three days away from then becoming free agents.

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Speaker 3: The legal tampering period hits a joke around inside NFL

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Speaker 3: That's when he started talking to the other teams. John

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Speaker 3: what this is, guys, inflation for winning a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: The cost of winning a Super Bowl, your players costs

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Speaker 3: at the last game of his contract. So his value

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Speaker 3: prices of gotten too high, which is why they're going

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Speaker 3: to go shop. And guys, my experience doing this for

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Speaker 3: And once a guy gets to go shopping in that

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't blame him at all, taking advantage of

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Speaker 1: Greg the question I've got about Kenneth Walker. Do the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks have an offer on the table for him right now?

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Speaker 1: And do you believe that it might be a fair offer?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, three years in a row with Leonard Williams, Ernest

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Speaker 3: No, And that's where the sticking point is, Dave, is

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Speaker 1: Well, or he's made so many great moves consecutively that

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Speaker 1: Out of here. So what do you think Riek Willan's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if you're aware of this, but

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Speaker 3: Okay, Chuck, Chuck plows is asking you, so, what do

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you just guaranteed that Kenny Walker, Rashid she

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Speaker 1: Oh God, Greg five thirty tonight over on nine point

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Speaker 1: I think, like anything, Dick, we're talking general terms right

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Speaker 5: There's some running back names that intrigue me, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're as good as as ken Walker.

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Speaker 2: Donels one for me, by the way, Donald saw that

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Speaker 4: I was just looking. I took it back to twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: They just don't sign the big money free agents other

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they spread it out right totally exactly. That's that's

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Speaker 1: this year. We're going to break for twenty three. Hugh

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Speaker 1: right here on ninety three to three k JRFM.

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Speaker 2: Listen to you often because you're not interesting.

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Speaker 6: From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now

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Speaker 6: back to Softie and Dick on your Home for the Huskies,

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Speaker 6: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point

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Speaker 1: All right, so I'd like to take a moment and

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Speaker 1: the first of the year, Jackson doesn't happen very often.

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Speaker 2: When it does, you have to take a moment and

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Two more and you'll be a saint, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: That's all you need? Dick?

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Speaker 1: Two more saint Dick? All right, So you asked me

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Speaker 1: off the air, most Seayawk fans resigning themselves to the

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Speaker 1: probably fair. I would say, what would you put the percentages?

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Speaker 5: Seventy yesterday, and I was right about with seventy thirty

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Speaker 5: I just think at this stage of the game, what

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Speaker 2: This team is playing for a title, okay.

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Speaker 1: So I think at that point after that game, they

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Speaker 1: ready now to even start remotely talking about replacements for him?

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Speaker 1: Or do we want to wait until he actually walks

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Speaker 1: to have that conversation on the air.

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Speaker 5: I'm kind of ready, just so it's almost going to

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Speaker 5: prepare yourself. It's almost as a protective mechanism, right, Hey, dude,

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Speaker 5: you're not losing Babe Ruth here for you, because if

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Speaker 5: we I mean, if we wait until we know ken

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Speaker 5: Walker's gone, then we're like, okay, let's gramble, let's grab who.

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Speaker 1: Do you want.

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Speaker 4: I'd like to be prepared.

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Speaker 5: I'd like to have a list of two or three

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Speaker 5: guys that I feel good that can be a eighty

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Speaker 5: five to ninety reasonable facsimile of Kenware.

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Speaker 1: You want to spend the weekend getting ready for that conversation.

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Speaker 1: You want Dixon to come to you and say, hey, Dad,

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Speaker 1: can we have a catch And you say, no, Son,

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Speaker 1: I got to get ready for Free Agent running Back

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Speaker 1: Talk right film on Monday alone.

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Speaker 2: Look, I mean, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't think it hurts to have that conversation now. I

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Speaker 1: mean the usual suspects, we've named most of them already

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Speaker 1: on the radio program Rico Daddles caught my eye for

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Speaker 1: a lot of reasons, because the guy's versatile. He can run,

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Speaker 1: he can catch, he can do it all. Right, we

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Speaker 1: can get guys on from Dallas and talk about him.

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Speaker 1: Who he spent some time with the Cowboys obviously Carolina

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Speaker 1: right last year?

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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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Speaker 1: So our buddy Sharon Thorsland and then would be a

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Speaker 1: good guest to have on. But look, as much as

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Speaker 1: I love Kenny Walker, and as much as I love

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Speaker 1: what he did for the Seahawks, and as much as

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Speaker 1: I honestly guys would love to have him back, I'd

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Speaker 1: love to have Kenny Walker back. And I would not

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Speaker 1: be opposed to slapping the franchise tag on him that's

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Speaker 1: now gone, by the way, I would not be opposed

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Speaker 1: to paying him a little more money than maybe the

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Speaker 1: Hawks are historically used to spending. After all of that, though,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lose my mind if the guy walks

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Speaker 1: out here. I'm just not because I don't think the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks are built that way. The Seahawks are built with

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Speaker 1: a kick ass defense and the greatest defensive mind walking

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Speaker 1: the face of the earth. As long as all that

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Speaker 1: continues to be present in this city, they'll be fined.

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Speaker 5: I was stunned when I looked at Dawdell's numbers, how

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Speaker 5: consistent he was of the last two years. And I

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Speaker 5: was also stunded how many times he touched the ball.

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Speaker 5: I would have thought, give.

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Speaker 4: Me an overnumber?

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Speaker 2: Did Jack give me?

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Speaker 4: Over and under? And how many touches Rico Daddell had

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Speaker 4: last year?

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Speaker 2: You no, I know what he did last year? Half

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Speaker 2: as a fantasy? Is it three hundred?

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Speaker 5: He touched it two hundred and seventy five times each

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Speaker 5: of the last two years. He is a workhorse, and

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Speaker 5: he's bigger than I thought. He's two hundred and fifteen pounds.

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Speaker 5: Like when I kind of think of Rico Daddell, I

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Speaker 5: kind of think of like kind of a small, shifty guy.

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Speaker 5: But he's not a small dude. He's five eleven two fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he had last year, he had two hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty six attempts. And how many targets did he

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Speaker 1: have last season?

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Speaker 4: A fIF fifty? It's thirty nine fifty.

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Speaker 1: So they gave they they wanted him to have the

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Speaker 1: ball two hundred and eighty six times, almost three hundred times.

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Speaker 1: Now they are the Panthers, right, well, but they're not terrible.

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Speaker 1: Body else well, but they were also better than they

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Speaker 1: were the year before, and they weren't terrible because of him.

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Speaker 1: How many snap counts did the almready snaps? That's five

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Speaker 1: hundred and ninety one snaps for Rico Dawdle six thirty

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Speaker 1: six the year before in Dallas. But how many did

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Speaker 1: Kenny Walker have? By the way, I'm curious about one hundred? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he's put time with actually today.

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Speaker 7: But here's the thing about Rico Dawdell is that his

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Speaker 7: course of last season was super interesting because he starts

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Speaker 7: out as a just pure backup to Chewba Hubbard there

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Speaker 7: in Carolina, and then suddenly it becomes a timeshare. And

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Speaker 7: then suddenly Hubbard gets injured and Dadell just takes over

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Speaker 7: and rules that backfield with a couple of games where

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Speaker 7: he just what was north of two hundred for like

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Speaker 7: two of three or three or four games, and then

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Speaker 7: suddenly Hubbard comes back and they split time again. And

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Speaker 7: it's one of those things where, okay, well, if you

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Speaker 7: gave Rico Daddle the actual twenty twenty five carries a game,

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Speaker 7: what does he do?

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 7: Does he consistently put up the two hundred yard games

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Speaker 7: that he did when he was the workhorse, or do

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Speaker 7: you need.

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Speaker 4: That guy to offset him, Zach Sharboney.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because either way you look at it, that's the

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Speaker 7: guy who's probably not gonna make bank and free agency

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Speaker 7: and would work perfectly with a Zach coming back.

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Speaker 5: And also what's impressive is that he ran for four

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Speaker 5: point six yards of carry with a quarterback that has

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Speaker 5: a pop gun for an arm I mean, so those

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Speaker 5: safeties are creeping up to stop the run because they

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Speaker 5: know Bryce Young can't beat him over the top.

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Speaker 1: So Rico Dadle ran for one thousand and seventy six

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Speaker 1: yards in seventeen games. Half of those yards came in

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Speaker 1: three games. Yeah exactly, by the way, that was the

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Speaker 1: Miami game, the Cowboy game, and the Packer game.

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Speaker 5: But to Jackson's point, those are three of like the

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Speaker 5: six or seven that he was the only running Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, exact right, So again, does he get hurt if

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Speaker 1: he ends up being the every down guy.

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Speaker 2: For the entire year? Can he last the entire year?

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at his stats and it looks like he's

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Speaker 1: relatively healthy in his career, but look, he's not going

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Speaker 1: to command the kind of money that Kenny Walker can command.

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Speaker 1: And I wonder as much as we love Kenny Walker, like,

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Speaker 1: what do we honestly think Walker gets? Just give me

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Speaker 1: a number average three, three thirty four. Okay, so we're

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Speaker 1: talking twelve eleven and a half million bucks a year.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather have Kenny Walker at twelve million or

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Speaker 1: Rico Dowdell at seven million?

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Speaker 2: Doutell? Okay, then it's done. Frankly, I even.

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Speaker 1: Made the decision show we don't want him back.

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Speaker 2: It might not even take that much, right, Like the realities.

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Speaker 7: Look what Javonte Williams just got eight million a year

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Speaker 7: twenty four and we learned that like that the numbers,

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Speaker 7: those are the posted numbers that not even you for

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Speaker 7: sixteen exactly two for sixteen. So Rico Dowdell, like Javanti Williams,

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Speaker 7: is a proven workhorse running deck. He's gonna he started

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Speaker 7: for three years in Denver. We don't even know that

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Speaker 7: about Rico.

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Speaker 1: The thing about Riko though, and you don't know that

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Speaker 1: he's twenty eight years old and he's going to be

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Speaker 1: in the same spot to Kenny Walker's and he's got

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Speaker 1: to take advantage of this. Yep, right, he's got to

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Speaker 1: cash in. So I mean, again, what the market will

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Speaker 1: look like for a guy like that. You think there's

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Speaker 1: maybe a little more tread left on his tire, obviously,

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Speaker 1: but he's got a cash in.

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Speaker 2: This guy made two and a half million dollars last year.

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Speaker 2: Try his salary.

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Speaker 5: Because for dowdles first three years in Dallas, he carried

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Speaker 5: it only ninety six times, right, so the one he's

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Speaker 5: only played two years of football.

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Speaker 2: Really, twenty eight is not typical twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight is more like, you know, using the softy

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Speaker 1: math minus the four carry the six, twenty six, it's

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Speaker 1: more like twenty six twenty five and a half years old, right,

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Speaker 1: So I'd.

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Speaker 2: Be comfortable with that.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to have to commit, you know, long

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Speaker 1: term obviously to a guy like that, you know, because

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Speaker 1: he is twenty eight years old, a couple of years

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Speaker 1: older than Kenny Walker.

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Speaker 2: But I think you can be fine with a kid

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: Now, what I will just tell you about Kenny Walker

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Speaker 1: when he was here, he never fumbled the ball, right,

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Speaker 1: and he was badass in the biggest games of the

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Speaker 1: year and the most important time of the season, when

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Speaker 1: the lights for the brightest Kenneth Walker was unbelievable and

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Speaker 1: you cannot just discount that. So I'm really just massively

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Speaker 1: intrigued by how they handle this. Starting Monday, we're going

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Speaker 1: to break text the modials and then Hugh Millen gonna

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Speaker 1: join at five on ninety three three KJJRFM