Speaker 1: This morning Hair on the Mojo on the morning show,
Speaker 1: Shannon's doing something with her kids, a little parenting thing
Speaker 1: with her kids that it just recently bit her in
Speaker 1: the ass.
Speaker 2: This is so true. And by the way, this did
Speaker 2: not stem from a punishment. I actually have to give
Speaker 2: my ex husband the credit for this, because he started it.
Speaker 2: But we are now in week four of a device
Speaker 2: detox with our kids, Lucy and Smith, and they don't
Speaker 2: have phones, but they do have iPads, and they do
Speaker 2: have Apple Watches. And even though they had all the
Speaker 2: limits the screen time blah blah blah, it was still
Speaker 2: we were still finding that they were like getting really
Speaker 2: addicted to being on and around these devices, so we
Speaker 2: totally took them away cold tur Rs. So watches, there
Speaker 2: really are no rules. They can have them on all
Speaker 2: the time. There's really no apps on there other than
Speaker 2: they can text and call us. Which actually I kind
Speaker 2: of missed the watches because it's nice to know where
Speaker 2: they are when they're like out and playing in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: But you miss them. They still have the watches though,
Speaker 3: but or no.
Speaker 4: They still have them.
Speaker 2: Dad has them though right now, so I don't even
Speaker 2: have them in my possession. Same thing with the iPads,
Speaker 2: and the iPads had it's called downtime, so they shut
Speaker 2: off from eight to eight eight pm to eight am,
Speaker 2: and they also both got an hour and a half
Speaker 2: of screen time a day, and so once that screen
Speaker 2: time limit is reached, basically you can't really do much
Speaker 2: on that iPad anyway.
Speaker 3: That's pretty wild.
Speaker 1: By the way, You'll have to either show me or
Speaker 1: have your ex husband show me how to do that.
Speaker 1: And I can put it on my wife's.
Speaker 3: From TikTok me.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I feel like I need it for Instagram.
Speaker 2: It's it's been really nice, and they've been, you know,
Speaker 2: just more engaged around the house and playing outside and
Speaker 2: doing other things and like playing with toys and building legos,
Speaker 2: and it's actually been great.
Speaker 4: It's been great.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We also nixed YouTube as well, which on the TV,
Speaker 2: which was an issue anyway.
Speaker 4: It bit me in.
Speaker 2: The ass yesterday because Maya Lucy, who's in sixth grade,
Speaker 2: was homesick from school and she's at that age where
Speaker 2: I have somebody who comes in the morning because my
Speaker 2: husband Wes gets up early for work and goes to work,
Speaker 2: so I have somebody that gets the kids up and
Speaker 2: ready for school and drives them both to school, but
Speaker 2: she leaves around nine nine thirty. So Lucy I was like, well,
Speaker 2: she's just gonna sleep all day. But she was going
Speaker 2: to be home for a couple of hours by herself yesterday.
Speaker 2: Normally this is not that big of a deal because
Speaker 2: she has her watch and her iPad and she can
Speaker 2: reach out to me if she needs something, or God forbid,
Speaker 2: there's an emergency.
Speaker 4: Well, no iPad, no watch.
Speaker 2: Like I said, her dad still has all of those
Speaker 2: items at his house. So I'm like, I cannot leave
Speaker 2: her home alone with no way of getting in touch
Speaker 2: with me. So Wes had to grab one of our
Speaker 2: old do you guys have like dusty old iPhones that
Speaker 2: are just in a drawer somewhere, and he had to
Speaker 2: dig one out, fix it so that it worked properly,
Speaker 2: turn it on, charge it, and that's what we gave
Speaker 2: her for yesterday in case.
Speaker 4: She needed to reach out to me.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, this little device detox that we were
Speaker 2: doing it really got me good yesterday because I actually
Speaker 2: needed it.
Speaker 1: You know what you needed there actually more so than
Speaker 1: that device that you had to go find the good
Speaker 1: old fashioned home phone, which they say that they're coming back.
Speaker 1: They said that they went away about a year and
Speaker 1: a half two years ago, and now they're coming back
Speaker 1: because people are starting to realize, especially with what happened
Speaker 1: yesterday where everything Amazon and all went away, people had
Speaker 1: no way to do certain things. So in some places
Speaker 1: there was people that you know, we're stranded with that.
Speaker 1: But now also like with security stuff, people are worried
Speaker 1: that they're homes they're putting like robbers are coming to
Speaker 1: the people's homes and doing like cell phone blocking or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 5: That's at the loop. That is what's she saying. When
Speaker 5: she saw that os iPhone, she was.
Speaker 4: Like, we can I have this even after being sick.
Speaker 2: I'm like no, Well, she just wants a phone so
Speaker 2: bad And I'm mean mom because she's not getting a
Speaker 2: fun So I.
Speaker 1: Want to talk about First off, I want to ask
Speaker 1: you a question. Have you ever had have you ever
Speaker 1: had something you know like this by chaining the ass
Speaker 1: Like you.
Speaker 4: Go all right, no more TV for a week, and
Speaker 4: then you're like I.
Speaker 3: Want to watch TV. Yeah, and you got to you
Speaker 3: got to live by their rule.
Speaker 1: I want to know, tell me about the device uh
Speaker 1: detox thing?
Speaker 3: So they only are allowed how much time again.
Speaker 2: Well right now, zero but normally an hour and half
Speaker 2: and then it shuts off.
Speaker 1: So an hour and a half and that's usually used
Speaker 1: from the time they come home from school till whenever.
Speaker 2: They could use it whenever, because it doesn't the time.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be an hour and a half
Speaker 2: if they if they.
Speaker 1: Have school work and their schoolwork requires them have to
Speaker 1: be online, does that include some of that hour and
Speaker 1: a half or no?
Speaker 2: So if they Smith is in second grade, he doesn't
Speaker 2: have any school work on the computer at home, Okay,
Speaker 2: if Lucy does. She has a device that was given
Speaker 2: to her by school. It was like a chromebook or
Speaker 2: whatever it's called. She has a computer, yeah, that she uses,
Speaker 2: but it's only that she can only have a time
Speaker 2: cool stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, all right, which, by the way, Lucy will
Speaker 1: learn how to hack that, because Luke figured that thing
Speaker 1: out right away. And you say that this has actually
Speaker 1: been a thing that has been positive. What do you
Speaker 1: see in your kids since they've been doing this.
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, they are playing outside, they're
Speaker 2: playing with their friends, they're doing other stuff in the house.
Speaker 3: Are they Are they missing it at all?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I think there has to be there has to
Speaker 2: be like we have to introduce it back and I
Speaker 2: have to talk to their dad about it, because for Lucy,
Speaker 2: for example, she doesn't have a phone, and so it
Speaker 2: was a way for like she she went to school
Speaker 2: last week and she was like, Mom, I didn't know
Speaker 2: that all the girls in my class were wearing I
Speaker 2: don't even know it was like pink or something red.
Speaker 2: They were like wearing something specific one day, and she
Speaker 2: felt really left out because she wasn't able to go
Speaker 2: on there before she went to bed to just like
Speaker 2: catch up with everybody and see And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: that does kind of stink. Yeah, So there has to
Speaker 2: be a happy medium do it somewhere. But the detax
Speaker 2: in itself has been really nice because I had noticed
Speaker 2: that they like, their behavior totally changes when you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: it's time to put away the iPad or whatever.
Speaker 1: Not to be not on Lucy's side, because I'm always
Speaker 1: on Lucy's side, But wouldn't that mean that she needs
Speaker 1: to use her time wisely? Don't use so don't empty
Speaker 1: the tank on your device time? Uh, and understand that
Speaker 1: you got to use it wisely so that you.
Speaker 2: That's when it missed the that's it's but she's had
Speaker 2: zero so she hasn't been her own month because we're
Speaker 2: doing the detox.
Speaker 1: No, I no detox, But I said, you said you're
Speaker 1: eliminating it to like an hour and a half.
Speaker 2: That was before. That's what it was before she had
Speaker 2: an hour and a half of time.
Speaker 1: And then okay, wait a second, so device detox. When
Speaker 1: you say device detox, I thought it was the hour
Speaker 1: and a half a prison there, dad has.
Speaker 4: How long are the I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it was supposed to just be a week.
Speaker 2: And then Andrew, their dad, was like, do you want
Speaker 2: to do it for a week. I was like yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: he said, it's been really great for us. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: now we're at a month.
Speaker 3: Don't you think the hour and a half thing is
Speaker 3: enough of a detox?
Speaker 1: Not that I'm trying to judge to your guys' parenting,
Speaker 1: but an hour and a half for these for your kids.
Speaker 4: Well, a detex isn't forever. It's a detox.
Speaker 2: So I think a month has been good and I
Speaker 2: do think that they should get them back next week. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what happened in his house happens in his house.
Speaker 4: My house is different.
Speaker 3: I could do it, bro, I couldn't. Well, I can
Speaker 3: with Josie.
Speaker 5: Period, even Joe. Let Joe do whatever the hell as
Speaker 5: long is he bringing as home? I don't care. You
Speaker 5: can watch poor.
Speaker 3: Jannon.
Speaker 1: Do you find yourself on your stuff less? Uh, knowing
Speaker 1: that your kids can't be on their phone?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well at home, yes, because they call.
Speaker 4: Me right out.
Speaker 3: Okay, So so what do you do?
Speaker 1: Do you sneak into the bathroom and then and take
Speaker 1: like extra duty times or what.
Speaker 6: Do you do?
Speaker 3: Yes? I close in my closet, Yes, yeah, do you do?
Speaker 4: It is hard?
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's definitely tough. Like I said, I
Speaker 2: think it was needed, but it's not going to be
Speaker 2: forever by anything.
Speaker 4: They just come in. We have no locks in our
Speaker 4: house on anything.
Speaker 2: H bathroom nothing, no locks, it's such an old house
Speaker 2: or nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hell, last second, Hannah wants to bring something up about roadblocks.
Speaker 1: What's that, Hannah?
Speaker 7: I just wanted to say, I don't know how no
Speaker 7: one's talking about the Chris Hanson investigation and roadblocks because
Speaker 7: of all the crazy stuff that's going on in roadblocks
Speaker 7: right now. I think I think you guys should like
Speaker 7: do it dirty on it?
Speaker 8: What's going on there?
Speaker 7: So there's like no real age restriction. They'll have like
Speaker 7: people there was a cybersecurity professional who made an account
Speaker 7: as an quote unquote eight year old and they had
Speaker 7: like these lobbies of like beds and pools and like
Speaker 7: secret rooms you could go into and.
Speaker 3: You blank my blank and blank crazy. Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 3: Chris Hanson's the man. I love him. He lives in town,
Speaker 3: you know that, in Bloomfield Hills. Yeah, I can't control
Speaker 3: my horning level.
Speaker 1: We should get Chris Hanson on to talk about that, Lydia.
Speaker 1: I'll hook you up with a contact for him. Caitlin,
Speaker 1: what's going on, Kaitlyn?
Speaker 6: Hey? Yeah, So we have a thirteen year old son
Speaker 6: and he's currently grounded, and I swear it's been like
Speaker 6: so refreshing just having him not have his Like he's
Speaker 6: coming into the living room, he's watching TV with us,
Speaker 6: Like he went to the park and went for a walk,
Speaker 6: like just willingly to do these things. It's been so
Speaker 6: nice just not having his phone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're doing his code outside though, like it's about
Speaker 5: to give freezing.
Speaker 6: Can no more go to Greg Grant and go play basketball?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: At any point though, you think you'll get sick of him,
Speaker 1: Like at any point you're gonna sit there and go,
Speaker 1: this little bastard's around me.
Speaker 3: All the time.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Probably what's up, Robert High, how's it going? Good morning?
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 9: Not a whole lot, just driving to get the kids.
Speaker 1: I want to tell you that Robert Shannon's device Detox
Speaker 1: is made for when she comes in here, she's like
Speaker 1: she's doing crack with her her iPad and her phone.
Speaker 1: You should see her. She got both in both hands.
Speaker 1: It's like, white's up. What's going on?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 9: No, So my kids and my ex wife we got divorced,
Speaker 9: and uh, the kids of phones s on contact them.
Speaker 8: But we have.
Speaker 9: It to where we can physically.
Speaker 10: Set their time on their phones on like phone time,
Speaker 10: Like we can set it for like thirty minutes to
Speaker 10: an hour and a half to six hours, but I
Speaker 10: normally haven't.
Speaker 9: Set for maybe forty maybe like an hour and a
Speaker 9: half maybe hour.
Speaker 3: Yeah in the moment, yeah, of phone.
Speaker 9: Time, and that's all you get. After that, their phone
Speaker 9: immediately locks and the only thing they can do is
Speaker 9: make a phone call.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad that everything.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad my parents couldn't even figure out how
Speaker 1: to put the time on the VCR because I would
Speaker 1: never my parents would never be able to do this
Speaker 1: because they'd never be able to figure out how they
Speaker 1: do this stuff over being able to put timers on stuff.
Speaker 3: What's going on? Joe, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 6: Hi?
Speaker 3: What's happening.
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping my wife's not listening to this topic
Speaker 1: because I'm going to be on a device detox after
Speaker 1: this thing's done.
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 11: So we limit our two kids one fifteen one seven
Speaker 11: to forty five minutes a day, but they can earn
Speaker 11: extra time with chores soefically, and there were fifteen minutes.
Speaker 11: If they do dishes, they get twenty minutes. If they
Speaker 11: help clean up the table after dinner, they can get
Speaker 11: fifteen to twenty minutes. And that's how they can earn
Speaker 11: the extra time, and we do it for the next day.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 11: So like if they help on Monday on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: He basically they got slave labor to get extra time.
Speaker 1: These kids aren't being forced to do all your dirty work. Huh,
Speaker 1: mow the lawns.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't let.
Speaker 11: Them do all that much, but yeah, and it it works.
Speaker 3: I actually like them an.
Speaker 11: Incentive for something that especially coming into winter. Like our
Speaker 11: kids once play hockey ones in football were always running
Speaker 11: on the ghost. They don't get a whole lot of screaming.
Speaker 1: Question anyway, do your kids wash dishes? Because I was
Speaker 1: talking to a buddy of mine who's got little kids.
Speaker 1: And when I say little kids, I'm talking like twelve
Speaker 1: years old, thirteen years old, they're not really little. And
Speaker 1: we were talking he's he said that his kids never
Speaker 1: learned how to do a dish before. They don't do
Speaker 1: kids know how to do dishes anymore. They know how
Speaker 1: to rinse it and put it in the dishes.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so the fifteen year old to wash them and
Speaker 11: the seven year old to drive and put them away.
Speaker 3: It's so work, it's so funny.
Speaker 1: I said to him, I go teach them how to
Speaker 1: do it, because I'm telling you, you don't learn how
Speaker 1: to do stuff like that or do the laundry.
Speaker 3: Like, teach them how to do the laundry.
Speaker 1: My kids went away to college, and I'm telling you
Speaker 1: my first one, Joe, he had to call every five
Speaker 1: minutes how to do something by Luke. Actually, man, Luke
Speaker 1: did our taxes for us. What's up Mike.
Speaker 8: Good morning, guys, Good morning. Back when, so back when
Speaker 8: my daughter was like from two to four years old,
Speaker 8: she was an iPad kid wholeheartedly. That's all she did
Speaker 8: was playing an iPad. Watch YouTube kids about chapter four.
Speaker 8: We took that thing away. It is so crazy how
Speaker 8: much no screen time changes your child. Yeah, she's so interactive,
Speaker 8: wants to play with us all the time, do game nights,
Speaker 8: movie nights. Doesn't have tantrums anymore.
Speaker 3: That's cool. That's nice to know.
Speaker 1: That's also birth control because now she's with you all
Speaker 1: the time, you guys can never fornicate together.
Speaker 3: I think it's so smart.
Speaker 1: I'm really honestly, I'm really proud of Shannon and Andrew
Speaker 1: for doing this because I will tell you this as
Speaker 1: parents and obviously their step parents, because I think that
Speaker 1: it's a task on you to do this and follow
Speaker 1: through with it. I mean, there's one thing to take
Speaker 1: the stuff away from them, but it's also a task
Speaker 1: on then trying to explain to them, all right, here's
Speaker 1: what we're going to do now as a family. And
Speaker 1: it's so easy to go to a restaurant and just
Speaker 1: hand a kid up freaking I go to a restaurants
Speaker 1: sometimes and I look at a table full of you know,
Speaker 1: a mom and a dad and a couple of kids,
Speaker 1: and those kids have not talked to their parents once
Speaker 1: the entire time that they're at that restaurant.
Speaker 2: Now, let me say, I do kind of miss that
Speaker 2: because it is nice to get some time.
Speaker 12: But yeah, what's up, Elizabeth, Hi, good morning morning, first time,
Speaker 12: long time.
Speaker 3: It's good to have you on.
Speaker 1: I hope you're not nervous, but it's good to have
Speaker 1: you listening and calling for the first time.
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 6: No, So, I I wish I could have my husband
Speaker 6: do a phone talk.
Speaker 4: It's horrible how often to.
Speaker 6: The point to where my kids are like, Dad, get
Speaker 6: off your phone.
Speaker 7: I know constantly I need I need him.
Speaker 5: To do a phone d talk.
Speaker 12: It would be wonderful, Elizabeth.
Speaker 1: The best thing in the world are we don't podcast
Speaker 1: This week the podcast I do with my wife. The
Speaker 1: conversation is about how disappointed my son was that I
Speaker 1: took a phone call in the middle of a conversation
Speaker 1: with him, and Chelsea basically saying to me, you're losing
Speaker 1: even your grown kids because you're on your phone so much.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, you're.
Speaker 1: A Yeah, the kids realized that I just am not
Speaker 1: paying attention and it is I don't know what it is, man,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you there's something about that damn thing where you're.
Speaker 2: Just conditioned and addicted and well, it's it's like it's
Speaker 2: involuntary at this point for me to pick up my
Speaker 2: phone and check if I have texts.
Speaker 1: Well, and you feel me, You feel like you're missing
Speaker 1: out on something and you guess what, there's nothing there
Speaker 1: for you. You're looking for nothing.
Speaker 8: You never are.
Speaker 6: Yeah, every time you get on Facebook, it's like it's
Speaker 6: just the same stuff over and over and we always
Speaker 6: reach them. We're like, you're not missing anything. Just put
Speaker 6: it down, give us like twenty minutes.
Speaker 10: That's all.
Speaker 3: Well, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Shannon her house and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be parented by her for a week. And you're and
Speaker 1: your your husband's going over to her ex husband's house.
Speaker 4: Go to my excess house. It's way more fun.
Speaker 1: In line, I hear you just got custody of Elizabeth's
Speaker 1: husband for a week.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll talk to you later.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Thanks, have a good day, guys.