1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: I just turned Michael Brown on on my iHeart. I 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: have heard almost nothing but commercials for the last five minutes. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Is this how it's going to be now that he's 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: on KOA, that I hear thirty seconds of talk from 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Michael Brown and five minutes of commercials from KOA. 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm going to switch back. 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 3: I'll watch your podcast. 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: Michael. I love you, sweetheart, I love you. But methink 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: thou might exaggerate just a little bit, just a touch, 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: just a touch a bit. Michael Brown. 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 4: Clock has not changed from the other station to this station. 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: Exact thing has changed. Well, the only thing is change. 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: We flipped it in the last hour, correct, we flipped 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: in the last hour. But the clock is exactly the same. 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: I think again, this is this is a wonderful example 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: of perception because you tune in, probably and you do 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: hear the last thirty seconds and something I'm saying properly, 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: and then we go into a commercial break and the 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: commercial breaks. But the commercial breaks are the same as 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: they were over there. But here's the thing that I 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: will caution you about. If you want to listen to really, 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: can I pat myself on the back here right? Hurt 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 2: yourself I'm going to stretch back here. If you want 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: to listen to really quality radio, well you wouldn't be 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: listening to me. But if you really want to listen 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: to quality radio, you're going to find that the clock 27 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: is virtually the clock in terms of minutes of commercials 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: versus minutes of talk is virtually the same across the 29 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: entire country. Do you know where it's different? Are on 30 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: tiny little stations in little towns in rural America that 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: don't have any sponsors and they don't have any overhead costs, 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: and so rather than getting the thirty eight minutes to 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: talk and thirty two minutes of commercials, you might get 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: forty four minutes to talk and what would that be, 35 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: say sixteen minutes or commercials or something. But then you're 36 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: not going to get the quality radio that you get here. 37 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: It's the cost of doing business, babe. It's the cost 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: of doing business. But in terms of your perception, our 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 2: clock is exactly the same. Yeah. Now, the only thing 40 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: was that last hour I was taken up by at 41 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: least six minutes of Dragon Redbeard trying to. 42 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 4: Fix and arguably, though she's not wrong, when you listen 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: to the podcast, you get far less commercials in it, because. 44 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: But I would caution you it's zero commercial. I mean, 45 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 2: it's not zero commercial. It's not zero, right, It's not zero, 46 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: It's not zero. So let's talk about the ongoing deep state, 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: deep state operations of the so called Seditious Six. And 48 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: again I keep emphasizing it. I don't think of a sedition. 49 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 2: I just like the alliteration of the seditious six. Yes, now, 50 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: this is another story that I've really talked about a 51 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: lot before Thanksgiving and post Thanksgiving. But one element that 52 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: I've had a difficult time trying to figure out precisely 53 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: is where this clearly coordinated deep state effort started and 54 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: who are the money people that are funding it? After all, 55 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: those six Democrats would never put themselves at such great 56 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: legal risk without the likelihood of enriching themselves and assurances 57 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: that they're massive legal bills that they could face would 58 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: somehow get reimbursed. And they damn sure didn't just concoct 59 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: this plan of their own volition without having coffee in 60 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: say the Capitol lunch room one day and then or 61 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: getting on a team's call or zoom call and talking 62 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: with their funders and the production people and the audio 63 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: people and the video people, and the people that wrote 64 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: the script, and the people are doing the fight, and 65 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: the people that the lawyers. There's all because you always 66 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: have to have a lawyer involved. Don't need no damn engineer, 67 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: as we prove right here this morning, you don't need 68 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: no damn engineer. You just need a you know, extraordinary 69 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: producer like Dragon Redbeard to come in and fix I say, 70 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: I'm scared to even touch it now. I'm afraid it'll 71 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: just you know, won't work. What I find funny about 72 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: the fact this didn't work is how much do we 73 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: bitch about the technology across the hallway? And then I've 74 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: been on air over here for what maybe has it 75 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 2: even been a month now, No, it's a month. I've 76 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: even been a month yet, and already we had something. 77 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: But it still says iHeart up front, doesn't it. Oh yeah, 78 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: I forgot about that. Yeah, I forget about that. I 79 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: just see this common Spirit studio thing here, and I think, 80 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: oh wow, it's a lovely countertop. It's a lovely countertop. 81 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: Granite depot. Maybe, So let's let's go back to the 82 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: seditious six. Here's here's what i' come up with. In 83 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: the in in this landscape of contemporary American politics, that's 84 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: what we live in. Few spectacles are as disheartening as 85 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: the spectacle of you know, conservatives rallying around symbols of 86 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 2: natural identity, flags, anthems, and oaths. Conservatives No, no, of 87 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: course not, while simultaneously undermining the very institution that those 88 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: symbols represent, performative patriotism, the American flag. All of that 89 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: is all part of what is going on in this country. 90 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: Ron Conway is a billionaire. He's a Silicon Valley legend, 91 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: done in some circles as the godfather of Silicon Valley, 92 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: the founder of the investment fund sv angel. He's made 93 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: himself very, very rich. He's been very precient early investments 94 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: in tech titans like Google, Airbnb, Facebook, coin based open Ai, Door, dash, Pinterest. 95 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: The list just goes on and on. In fact, if 96 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: you want to read about him, you can go to 97 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: his website. It's svangel dot com. Of course, you go 98 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 2: to the about page and look at the team. He 99 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: is a super rich, super rich tech mogul that you've 100 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: never heard of. I never heard of him, and like 101 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 2: so many of his Silicon Valley peers who swing libertarian. 102 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: Conway is actually a rabid lefty and he uses his 103 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: riches as leverage for leftist causes. And if you want 104 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: to learn about that, go to this website. Follow the 105 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: crypto the crypto, follow the crypto, follow the crypto dot org, 106 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: and then go to individuals and search for Ron Conway. 107 00:06:54,520 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: Follow the crypto dot org under individuals Ron Conway. So 108 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: that brings us back to the so called Seditious Six. 109 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: In addition to Conway's contributions just at large to the 110 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: Democrat Party at both the state and the federal level, 111 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: and then his particular contributions to leftist political action committees, 112 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: and his generalized, i would say, just a generalized, massive 113 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: influence behind the scenes, he is a political contributor to 114 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: the two senatorial and most vocal members of the so 115 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: called Seditious Six, Mark Kelly and Elisa Slutkin. If you 116 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: go to OpenSecrets dot org, OpenSecrets dot org, I've for 117 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: maybe enough for this new people to the program. But 118 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: that's that's a website. 119 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 5: I know. 120 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: I know Helen Ellen Miller who started Open Secrets. She's 121 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: a friend of mine. She's a lefty. Oh, I've got 122 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: lefty friends yes, I have friends all over the political landscape. 123 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: I really like what she's done. Well, I think she's 124 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 2: since sold it off. But OpenSecrets dot org is better 125 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: than going to the Federal Elections Commission website because at 126 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: OpenSecrets dot org you can look up past campaigns, current campaigns, 127 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: you can look up by industry, you can find everything 128 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: about political contributions at that website, OpenSecrets dot org. I'm 129 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: a fan of it. If you if you don't get it, 130 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: And when you go to OpenSecrets dot org and you 131 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: look up Rom Conway, there are numerous contributions to Mark 132 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: Kelly now summer large, twenty six hundred dollars here, twenty 133 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: nine hundred dollars here, then eleven hundred and seventy nine dollars, 134 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: let's see, I've got a couple of screenshots, and then 135 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: to at least slap in thirty three hundred dollars. Not 136 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: huge amounts, but the reason they're not huge is because 137 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: of McCain, Feingel federal limitations on campaign contributions. But here's 138 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: what a lot of ordinary folks don't understand about what 139 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: people like Ron Conway do. Guys like him form very 140 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: tight circles of influence that attract similar contributions from their 141 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: peers over and over and over again. So when he's 142 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: out at the French Laundry having lunch with Devin Newsom, 143 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: he will tell all of the people at the table, Hey, 144 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm giving some money to Mark Kelly and Alisa Slotkin 145 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: because we get a little project going on. I could 146 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: use your help. So then you'll find a bunch of 147 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: other people that you don't think are related to Ron Conway, 148 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: but indeed they're exactly. They all met at the French Laundry, 149 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: they all had lunch together. But let's focus for a 150 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: minute of Mark Kelly. You can find, if you dig 151 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: deep enough, the connection between Conway and Kelly. Because US 152 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: senators are required to file annual financial disclosure statements, something 153 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: I had to do every single year. It didn't bother 154 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: me because you know what, I had nothing to hide, 155 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: and I knew that as a so called public servant, 156 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 2: as the under Secretary of Homeland Security, I'm required by 157 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: law to file financial disclosure statements. Well so are US senators. 158 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: But if you poke around on Mark Kelly's disclosures and 159 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: you start looking through his air quote here candidate disclosure. 160 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: Guess what, Oh, he has ownership of shares in a 161 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: private equity firm called sv Angel, mister Conway's investment firm. 162 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: I'm shocked. Well, I want to go in. I never 163 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: thought there were any coincidences whatsoever. In fact, he he 164 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: categorizes his the value as none or less than one 165 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: thousand dollars in two separate investment funds. Now, that's because 166 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: the financial disclosure requirements are categorized in these very broad 167 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: categories none to less than one thousand one dollars. But 168 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: when you look at the income, he has income between 169 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand and fifty thousand dollars in each of the 170 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: two funds. That's a pretty good return. Yes. So I 171 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 2: followed up my digging into that by looking at Kelly's 172 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: disclosures in following years after you'd take an office. And curiously, 173 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: if you look at Kelly's same disclosures for his first 174 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: year in off, he no longer lists the sv Angel holdings. Now, 175 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: I would just guess, totally guessing on my part, that 176 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: he did that to try to eliminate the appearance of 177 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: impropriety under the rules of the Senate Ethics Rules. But 178 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: the original physical connection between Conway and Kelly is quite clear. 179 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: On October sixteenth, twenty twenty five, just a couple of 180 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: months ago, now, well not quite two months ago, Conway 181 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: resigned to great fanfare from Salesforce. He was a shareholder 182 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: and a director at Salesforce. He resigned with again with 183 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: a lot of florishm fanfare, a lot of financial media 184 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: coverage of it from the philanthrompic arm of Salesforce. Mark Benoff, 185 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: who is a longtime friend of Conway, all for President 186 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: Trump to send the National Guard troops to San Francisco 187 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: to battle crime and to battle that city's incredible destructive 188 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 2: FENANL epidemic. Well, apparently, Conway, the sv Angel equity fund owner, 189 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: told his friend over at sales First Force this, it 190 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: saddens me immensely to say that, with your recent comments 191 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: and failure to understand their impact, I nearly I now 192 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: barely recognize the person I have so long admired. You 193 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: find that quote in the New York Times that got 194 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,239 Speaker 2: me to thinking if Mark Kelly opposed National Guard deployments 195 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: in support of urban crime fighting and feel the need 196 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: to encourage National Guard members to disobey lawful orders before 197 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: October sixteen, twenty twenty five. So if you do a 198 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: limited data search or i'm sorry, date search on Google 199 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: before that date, you don't really find it anything. But 200 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: in fact, what I found was quite different from the 201 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 2: rhetoric we've seen from the so called seditious six. For example, 202 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: in August of twenty twenty five, at a town hall 203 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: in North Carolina, military and veterans' issues were the focus 204 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: of the discussion, and despite the fact that Trump had 205 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: already ordered the National Guard troops to LA and DC, 206 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: Mark Kelly addressed none of the issues that today seemed 207 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: to be his favorite topic. And then, in an interview 208 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: with a local Arizona news station around the same time 209 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: as the North Carolina event, Kelly seemed to tacitly acknowledge 210 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: Trump's legal authority to federalize the National Guard troops and 211 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: to send him to support the fight against crime in 212 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: other cities. So what changed, Why did he go from 213 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: one extreme to the other? I don't know, But the 214 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: timing of Conway, that's the finn in seers his meltdown 215 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: regarding the National Guard deployments is very suspiciously close to 216 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: the timing of when Mark Kelly decided to put together 217 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: the video. Now in early November, Kelly and slump can 218 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: introduce the quote no Troops in Our Streets Act, which 219 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: attempted to try avoid President Trump's constitutional and statutory authority 220 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: as commander in chief, and he posted all about it 221 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: on his website. You can go to Kelly dot Senate 222 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: dot gov and you can read all this press releases 223 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: about that. Then, of course, on November eighteen, the Sedition six, 224 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: led by Kelly and Slotkin, That's when they launched the video. Hmm, 225 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: follow the money. I think there is clearly a financial 226 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: connection between Kelly and Conway that predates Kelly's election to 227 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: the Senate. Conway is a true behind the scenes left 228 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: as power broker, and before Conway went public with his 229 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: visceral opposition to the National Guard deployments, Kelly was generally 230 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: just non commitalist to the importance and legality of those deployments. 231 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: But after Conway's blistering attacks on his friend over at Salesforce, 232 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: Kelly Mark Kelly all of a sudden became so opposed 233 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: to the National Guard deployments that he began calling for 234 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: a sort of limited military coup. Huh was that at 235 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: Conway's behest let me could be could not be. Everything 236 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: I just said is clearly circumstantial, doesn't prove anything conclusive. 237 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: But because of my simple understanding of how Washington, DC 238 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: works and how these people and when I say these people, 239 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:51,239 Speaker 2: I'm talking about senators and congressmen, how they just virtually 240 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: I mean they're like wind mills. And I don't mean 241 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: like wind turbines. I'm talking about wind mills on the 242 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: old farm down home, those wind mills that just you know, 243 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: they creak and they make noise, and they pump up 244 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: the water for the cattle, and they just swirl around. 245 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: And if you ever grew up and they have Oklahoma 246 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: panhandle like I did, they make a lot of noise 247 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: if you don't maintain them very well, and they just 248 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: swing around and they're just they're just whirling and pumping 249 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 2: and moving all the time. Best politicians. That's exactly how 250 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: I observe those people in their natural habitat. And I'm 251 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: telling you this points to me that there was something 252 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: suspicious going on. And I think Ron Conway is just 253 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: is the guy that we've been looking for. He's the 254 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: guy that my belief is he's funding all of that production. 255 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: Michael, I drive a dodge, I et McDonald's and I 256 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 3: listen to your show. I'm not worried about quality. 257 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: And that's why I love the audience. Goobers are the best, 258 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 2: absolute best, and that's why we don't give a flying 259 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 2: rip about quality ourselves. We just come in and fly 260 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: by the seat of our pants. A British citizen, John 261 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: reshlu Booth, got himself arrested in the United Kingdom after 262 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: he posted a photograph of himself legally holding a gun 263 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: while on a vacation trip in Florida. Got it now. 264 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: This has sparked pretty widespread debate about free speech, police powers, 265 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: and of course the obvious difference is between the United 266 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: States and the United Kingdom gun laws. So again for 267 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: the people in the back of the classroom that are 268 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 2: the slow learners, this is a British citizen on holiday, 269 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: as the Brits would say, on holiday in Florida. He 270 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 2: goes to a gun range. He's holding a long gun, 271 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 2: and he gets a selfie taken of him holding the 272 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: long gun and it looks like an outdoor range, posts 273 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: it to his social media accounts while he's in Florida, 274 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 2: and then goes home back to the United Kingdom. Got it? 275 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: Can I move forward now? Thank you? So this guy 276 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: is an IT consultant from West Yorkshire. He took the 277 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: photo of himself holding a shotgun at at this place 278 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: in Florida in August. The firearm was legally owned in 279 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: the United States. The guy, John RISCHLOEU Booth, not John 280 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: Wilkes Booth. John rischloeu Booth was under supervision at the time, 281 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: reportedly receiving instruction from a former Special Forces operative. Booth 282 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: posted the image on LinkedIn I hate LinkedIn as part 283 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: of a routine update about his day and his professional activities. Then, 284 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: upon returning to the United king m he gets a visit. 285 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 2: He gets a knock on the door by the West 286 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: Yorkshire Police after somebody, someone, well Michael who I don't know, 287 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: someone raised concerns about the photo. That's the best way 288 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: I can describe it. So the cops show up at 289 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: his door, they warn him about the impact of social 290 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: media posts, and then eleven days later, no wait, but 291 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: they show up one day. Let's just say they showed 292 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: up today, not mister Booth. Somebody. We can't tell you who, 293 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: but you know you can't confront your witnesses can't confront 294 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: your accusers. But you know, somebody complained that they saw 295 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 2: your post on LinkedIn and it made them uncomfortable. Wow. 296 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: If I got in trouble for every time I made 297 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: somebody uncomfortable, I'd be in trouble all the time, which 298 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: I pretty much am anyway. And then after that encounter 299 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 2: they come back eleven days later hmm and arrested him 300 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: late at night. The allegations include possession of a firearm 301 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: with intent to are you ready for this? With intent 302 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: to cause fear of violence? And stalking Now part of 303 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 2: that is based on another unrelated photo on his profile. 304 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: He was held overnight before being interviewed, released on bail, 305 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 2: but endured a series of follow up visits by the 306 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: POPO over a thirteen week period. Ultimately, the Crown Prosecution 307 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: Service dropped the most serious charges owing to insufficient evidence, 308 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: but Booth still faced a public order offense based on 309 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: a different post. That's according to Breitbart Now. The case 310 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: obviously attracts criticism from public figures and sparked of pretty 311 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: wide debate about police priorities and freedom of expression. Uh 312 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 2: not here there, But there's a big difference between here 313 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: and there, although the difference is getting narrow and narrower 314 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 2: and narrower. Critics, including Elon Musk, side of the situation 315 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: is an example of process as punishment, something that is 316 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: very real. Process as punishment. I often hear people say, well, 317 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: you know what, I'd be willing to fight that in court. Really, 318 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: would you? Really? I had clients I used to have, 319 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: you know, went back when I was actually practicing law. 320 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: I no longer practice, So don't ask me how much 321 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: legal questions. Don't if I'm at it, if i'm at it, 322 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: if I'm at a cocktail party, don't come up and 323 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: have me a contract and say, hey, would you review 324 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 2: this for me? No, I'm not going to do it, 325 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: and I can't charge you for it because I no 326 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: longer practice. But I would have clients come to me 327 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: and say, hey, you know what, I want to sue 328 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: so and so because they did something wrong. And I 329 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: look at and say, yeah, well they did do something wrong. 330 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: This person you want to sue probably doesn't have any assets, 331 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: so if you win, you're probably not gonna be able 332 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: to collect anything. Maybe you can collect their old whatever, 333 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 2: an old buick that Gouber drove, what does he say, 334 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: in to talk aback, you might be able to collect 335 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: the old bully dodge, a dodge and old dodge. You 336 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: may be able to collect the old dodge or something, 337 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: but it's not gonna be worth anything. And here's what 338 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to go through to get to that 339 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 2: point to win the lawsuit. And oh, by the way, 340 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 2: if he hires a lawyer, they're going to countersue you. 341 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 2: And even if they don't countersuit, you're gonna have your 342 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: butt drag through depositions and interrogatories. They're going to ask 343 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: all sorts of questions that may be totally irrelevant. But 344 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 2: in a deposition or in interrogatories, they can ask you 345 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: whatever they want to ask you. It's only when we 346 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: get to court that we can object. So you'll have 347 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 2: to answer the question. Even though I say in a 348 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: deposition I object, the other lawyer will say that's fine, 349 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: you still have to answer the question. That's process as punishment. 350 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: So merely sharing a legal activity from abroad, I don't 351 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: think merit's police action at home. Now. Booth describe the 352 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: ordeal as orwell, with some commentators liking it to real 353 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: life echoes of a dystopian government overreach, which I think 354 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 2: that it is. And now the incident has prompted discussion 355 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: on the role of police in regulating social media content 356 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: and the tension between British public order laws and individual freedom. Well, 357 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: I can just tell you sumarily without going into much detail, Eh, 358 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: the public order laws allow them to come and at 359 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: least question you, if not arrest you, if you post 360 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: something on social media that somebody that maybe doesn't even 361 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: follow you, but I just show it to them and 362 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: it makes them uncomfortable. Oh oh, I made somebody uncomfortable 363 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: by I didn't know it because I just put it 364 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: up by social media and somebody else looked at it. Now, 365 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 2: since then, mister Booth has expressed a deep mistrust of 366 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: the United Kingdom police and stated his desire to relocate 367 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: to Florida permanently because of the psychological toll and the 368 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: loss of confidence in the British authorities. Now that's fueled 369 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: calls for legal reform, but government officials suggesting the need 370 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 2: maybe we will, maybe we won't clarify the boundaries of 371 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: criminality online, and maybe we will or will not ensure 372 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: that policing focuses on serious crime rather than social media 373 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: monitoring and the prosecution legal activities that are conducted abroad. 374 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: This story amazingly exemplifies the ongoing struggles over free speech 375 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: digital policing in the intersection of national law with global 376 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: travel and online expression, and highlights the fundamental differences between 377 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: us and them when it comes to personal liberty and justice. 378 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 2: You think they're going to do anything. Of course, they're 379 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: not going to do anything. But the lesson for us 380 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 2: to learn is when you hear for calls for government regulation, 381 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: which there are. For example, right now, Mike Lee, the 382 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: senator from you, the senior Senator from Utah, and somebody else. 383 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: I forget who. It doesn't matter, but Senator Mike Lee, 384 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: who I believe is a very good constitutional expert, has 385 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 2: introduced a law federalizing the requirement for all apps in 386 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: app stores. Whether it's Android or Mac, doesn't make any 387 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: difference that if it is pornographic or an adult dating 388 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: site or anything else that might you know, you might 389 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: not want someone under the age of eighteen or sixteen 390 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 2: looking at that. There would be a federal law that 391 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 2: would require the apps to verify the age of anybody 392 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 2: that's downloading it. I don't have a problem with that 393 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: now poor Hub and others are objecting to it because 394 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: they say that, oh, we can't police this. Well, but 395 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: you put it out there for anybody, and you say 396 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: it's age restricted, but there's no enforceability until there's some 397 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: sort of federal regulation. And I look, I'm anti regulation, 398 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: but I don't want, you know, fifteen year olds. And 399 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: now call me naive if you want to, because I 400 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 2: know they do, but I don't want fifteen year olds. 401 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 2: I certainly don't want ten to twelve, eight, you know, 402 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: six year olds looking at poorn. So some regulation of 403 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: online activity is probably warranted, and I think it's certainly constitutional. 404 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: Now I'll get to that in a minute. And quite frankly, 405 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: I'll just take a break right down anyway. 406 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 5: I cannot take women's basketball and women's sports being shut 407 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 5: down my throat constantly every morning by iHeartRadio. Every time 408 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 5: it comes on, I turn off the station for an hour. 409 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 5: I can't take it anymore. 410 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: I'm mana tell and I can't take it anymore. Have 411 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: we been? Have I been talking about women's basketball to you? 412 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 4: But yes, there are some women's sports updates played a 413 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 4: couple of times a day in some of our commercial blocks. 414 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: And those last what those updates are two and a 415 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 2: half three hours long. 416 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 4: Must be sometimes thirty seconds can feel that long. 417 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: I think anything less than that. I think it's fifteen. 418 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: I know exactly what's going on. It's that time period 419 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: between Thanksgiving and New Year's and people are really stressed out, 420 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: and we're kind of like just you and me, and 421 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: this program is kind of like walking into grandma's house 422 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: and you just want to smell the apple pie and 423 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: the turkey and the dressing and see you know, the 424 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: gifts and everything. You just what that warm, cozy feeling. 425 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: And we're trying to provide that because you and I 426 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 2: are such warm, fuzzy people, of course, of course, and 427 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: instead they're getting something about women's basketball and it's pissing 428 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: them off and they're calling and leaving a voicemail about it, 429 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: because it's like we have we have you know what, 430 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: you know what Dragon I have control over in terms 431 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: of what we do here, kind of what we talked about. 432 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: That's it, and that's it. We don't even have control 433 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: over the equipment, that's right. And during that break, I 434 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: finally get a response from the text line people. Yeah, 435 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: and they're all concerned that you don't have a log again, 436 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: and I've tried to explain to them you have a 437 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: log in. That's not the issue. The issue is that 438 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: we're getting kicked out and the keyword issue. Yeah so, 439 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: but I have some real people now, as opposed to 440 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: just you know, support app blank not calm whatever. Oh yeah, no, No, 441 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: I actually have real people. I got Ryan, I got 442 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: let's see, I got Ryan and Katie and raw Ball 443 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: working on it. 444 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 4: I was gonna give it about a day or two 445 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 4: longer and be like, no, I can't deal with it. 446 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: It locks me out after an hour. 447 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 4: No, no, and then they got to send me anotheration. 448 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: Come on, Well, here's the response so far. The implementation 449 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: of multi factor authentication and subsequent reduction in session time 450 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: is a response to a security incident, and this behavior 451 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 2: is somewhat expected. What the behavior on the part of 452 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: us objecting to it, or the behavior of someone trying 453 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: to who hacks a text line. 454 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 4: I mean I can kind of see it, maybe possibly 455 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 4: because there are contests that we do over the text lines, 456 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 4: and not just us, but other stations here in the 457 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 4: building to do. 458 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: You know, hey, you've won kind of thing. 459 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 4: But it and you don't want to give off that kind. 460 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: Of wrong thing. 461 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 4: If somebody hacks in and says to just a random 462 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 4: texture and said, hey, you won concert tickets, come down 463 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 4: and whatever. 464 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: So I kind of understand that, but oh, a text 465 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: originating apparently from like it's from iHeart right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 466 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: you've won, come on down because we got a check 467 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: for a million dollars for you. Exactly. I can get 468 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: who would fall for that? If you know anything about 469 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: I come on let's bed now. Let's hope that you 470 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 2: know that you know, managements not listening. But who in 471 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: their right mind would believe a text from iHeartMedia that says, 472 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: come on down to forty six ninety five South Moleco. 473 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: You've won a million dollars? 474 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 4: Oh wohld't we do those keyword for cash things? They're 475 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 4: mike hole that or what one thousand dollars? And you're 476 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 4: gonna believe the one that said, you know? 477 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: You would? You're just that you're the kind of person 478 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: that would show it. You would drive from it, you 479 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: would get you get all the way home. 480 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 4: If I entered into that contest and I get a 481 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 4: quote hacked text message response saying come on down, pick 482 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 4: it up. 483 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: No, that's no, that's not what I said. The text says, 484 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: come on down, you have won a million dollars. Who's 485 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: going to believe that my mother would. That's I'm afraid 486 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: that's who would. I don't think you would, or anybody 487 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: that's listened to us for any length of time and 488 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: understands how cheap I heart is when it comes to 489 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 2: honoraal salaries and bonuses and equipment and you know everything else. 490 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah. Oh man, now we're in trouble again. 491 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: But you know, yep, it's break time. Oh oh my gosh, 492 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: it is break time. I'll be right back